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💸 $100 USDC Rewards Pool – Hangout Saturdays: Projects & Chill!
Recorded: June 8, 2025 Duration: 1:39:34Space Recording
Short Summary
GMI is gearing up for a significant liquidity bond launch on the Ethereum mainnet, promising new earning opportunities and enhanced user engagement. The project is also returning to the Indodax exchange, facilitating easier access for users to trade with local fiat currencies. With a focus on user experience and growth, GMI aims to solidify its position in the evolving crypto landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. There is a place very far from this world.
And the only way you can get there is through music.
Remember, only music can set you free.
And fill you with energy to life.
Be prepared for a new music transformation.
And in a moment, you will be transported to this place.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome. so oh
I so Oh Oh yeah oh Oh hey so so
3, 2, 1. oh Oh my put me down This time, baby, I'll be... ...Balette...
...This time, baby, I'll be...
...Balette...
... The music is the music. I'm not gonna see a heart, but just give it a lifetime. If we raise it, there would be a period of time.
Me girl is not concerning what nobody wanna say.
Me hear him, got a stern and go in my life how he's hit.
I'm just holding for the time, but girl, you need a head for free.
We can talk to him, in fitness we rockin'. I'm thinking there's even more again. ... Oh I kissed a girl and I liked it, the taste of her cherry taste, I kissed a girl just to tell you, hope my boyfriend don't mind it.
of world of dreams the time has come to introduce you to a new level of music Oh, it's alright. Oh, it's alright. Oh, it's alright.
Oh, it's alright.
Life ain't always easy.
It's everyday with your father.
So forget the day.
It's all about the night.
I get cool and start a while.
I'm a fighter.
Be a rebel.
I'm a fighter.
We can't stand.
We can't rock until six. we can't stand You keepin' rockin' till I'm sick, sick, sick
You're turnin' on, you're turnin' on
You're turnin' on, you're turnin' on
You're turnin' on, you're turnin' on, you're back it up
It's gonna party like, party like
It's like you see it in the world
We're gonna party like, like you see it in the world
You know that it's gonna matter
We gotta just turn it up, turn it up like oh Hey! Oh I'm not a baby, just take a beat and back Just get a beat and kick Keep it so I can kick
And dance so I can beat
Baby, just take this class
Let's make time to slam now
We got everyone that's falling down
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
I'm all up and down to your head
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not I'm not, I'm not, I'm not Oh Space Jam Come on and slam, and welcome to the town
Come on and slam, you wanna tell
Hey, yo, whatcha gon' do?
Hey, yo, whatcha gon' do?
Hey, yo, whatcha gon' do?
Hey, yo, whatcha gon' do? All these people in the house, let's go do? Hey, what to go do?
People in the house, let's go.
It's your boy, JCI.
Don't pass that thing and watch me play.
Behind my back, you know what's next?
All in your face, what's up?
Just fill the face. Drop it, rock it down the room.
Shake it, break it, face the moon.
Just watch that money, break it, body.
Make sure you don't wreck your life.
Get wild and lose your mind. Take this thing into overtime. Hey, DJ, turn it up. Just what you're Welcome to the space Let this face stand. Come on. Come on.
It's time to get high.
Say, who?
Come on.
Oh, the fellas.
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Come on.
One time for the ladies.
Say, who?
Yeah.
Oh, the fellas.
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Get it on.
Come on and ride, baby.
Run.
Come on, little boy.
We play. We play. Let this face stand. Come on. go I Jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump off me, get down. Oh, yeah. All right, let's get started.
Debbie, can you hear me?
Let me add you to the speaker panel.
Okay, I have sent you over the mic.
All right, I see you in the speaker panel good gabby good morning how are you doing this morning mark i'm doing good how are you doing well you know we had the crypto chick space uh last week what
happened to you we missed you i think uh thursday I think we kind of missed you a little bit. What happened?
Oh, I did you guys end the space or like, oh, I was working and I fixed some, I was fixing something and I lost track of time.
I went
failed to realize I was in the space because
I was listening to you guys
conversation till
you guys were talking about how to
be carefully anonymous
during
those
what you call those
sessions
conferences
and then I had
work come up.
So apologies on that one.
Really.
That was okay because crypto queen changed the space to Mark fell asleep.
And so,
you know,
you're never really a real space host until you fall asleep in a space.
And so we thought you just kind of fell asleep.
I was like,
Oh goodness,
Mark is going to get crypto queen for that.
So that was too,
that was too cute, but we know you work hard. And so, yeah, we just kind of all left the space, oh, goodness, Mark is going to get Crypto Queen for that. So that was too cute.
But we know you work hard.
And so, yeah, we just kind of all left the space.
But thank you so much because you're always here.
Oh, I got to hold that all alone in the space.
This is very fun.
Yeah, we all left the space.
And I was like, we don't want to just leave you here.
And so, but no, you are always hosting and helping us.
And you're always busy
with everybody else. So we just want to thank you, but wanted to kind of joke with you just a little
bit, you know, just to make it lighthearted in the space and happy to be here today. And, you know,
me, I'm always looking for some kind of fun fact or something like that, you know, on today. And
I just wanted to say, I did not know that a cloud weighs around a million tons.
Like, I would never believe that, that it weighed that much.
But I was just kind of looking up some fun facts, and I thought I'd share that.
But I always thought it was so nice.
Who took the weigh scale up to the cloud?
You know what?
I hope it's actually real because actually it says fun facts.
And so I was just looking up some fun facts and I was like, really?
It really weighs that much.
When you go through like turbulence in the airplane or something like that,
it does feel like a little, you know, it's really shaky, but clouds look so soft.
Like I just would never think that they would weigh that much.
I think they would like cotton.
I know, right?
I mean, if you want to, if you really want to experience turbulence, the nice way, you just fly Spirit Airlines.
I mean, literally, like, it was fun.
Like me, I think I've flown using Spirit Airlines, and my, my, when they ride through that turbulence,
it almost feels like you're in an aluminum can that is about to just explode.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, I was told to stay away from some types of airlines, you know,
because it feels like you're in a lawn chair bolted down.
And I'm like, I never want to feel like that.
Don't like too many layovers, straight flights if you can.
But, you know, if you're going longer flights, you may have to stop.
But I'm not sure.
Well, just to give you guys updates,
what we are, what's happening on energy and GMI.
We have, as you guys might have seen,
if you go to our platform we just finished
or just you know started finished our basic testing and then like you know
internal testing and adding collections on apechain more apechain collections
will be coming this week it is we're trying to get like the best data uh aggregated data on our platform so after ethereum
we now have a uh ape chain live and uh also been doing some testing on uh bres chain uh just like
yesterday we're just like locally running um some of the collections on the testnet of Vira chain.
And just looking at these chains, I really don't know.
Like, you know, like if I go to Ape chain, like I can see like it's a dedicated chain for like NFT collections.
And I can see the momentum and like, you know, the enthusiasm still there.
But when I go to chains like Vera and, you know, some of the chains,
like I really don't know whether it's like a hype or whether it's like, you know,
I really don't know.
So while we are integrating all of these changes, like we really don't know, you know, which chains are like after the launch, they're still active.
So, yep, that's the update on GMI. A few more chains coming in.
There's a huge airdrop upgrade that is about to happen along with liquidity bonds.
So those who are in these spaces today,
feel yourself really lucky.
There's gonna be a lot of alpha that will be dropping.
So the first, I think if all the things go well,
tentatively, no timelines promised,
we'd like to over deliver and under promise
the first liquidity bond should go live very soon on the Ethereum mainnet we're
gonna go live first on the Ethereum mainnet we just we've tested the
functionality part which works like awesome like props to hyder uh
with our smart contract dev um he has like literally finished the product real fast uh
shipped it off um we're just waiting on uh you know the interface ui um and that takes a lot of time you know i've seen uh gabby like you know as we're developing into
as it's like you know i'm taking more prominent roles in development in crypto uh you know like
90 to 80 of the time is spent on like full stack development rather than on like smart contract
development like that's that's the most hardest. But I think after like you are building a blockchain,
which is a lot of smart contract and dev work,
apart outside of that,
I think the full stack work does take a lot of work.
So yeah, we have been refining ui for liquidity bonds um and then when
liquidity bonds go live um and you are holding liquidity bonds like if i if i were to buy a
liquidity bond um no not a financial advice just um sharing uh what they mean uh you will be like
you know from day one from the day that you are holding it like
from the day you buy it you'll start accumulating the actual GMI token rewards into into the into
those LP bonds and this they work similarly to the US Treasury bonds like you know like you you buy
a bond it's a five-year bond right you're not
able to like you know it unlocks like all the everything you know interest and
everything like unlocks after five years right and you get your principal amount
back but during that entire time you can actually trade it in the secondary
market so if I buy like a hundred dollar worth of bond every year like right now
the current rate is
like 3.98 so like for a hundred dollars every time you'll get like approximately like four dollars
after five years you're gonna get like twenty dollars for every hundred dollars um but uh while
while it sits in your account at any point of time you can actually sell that um you can actually
sell that bond and just to let you guys
know tommy is working extremely hard in the back prop and and getting these details refined out
and if you guys noticed we're back on indodax. They had recently delisted us.
And Tommy got us back.
All props to him.
I do want to tell you guys, if you guys are listening here,
I think when we got delisted, and there is a whole big reason.
You can check our Discord.
I don't want to go on a public thing and start, you know, any conflict or anything,
but there was a reason why those things happened.
And it was a step to protect our community first,
always protecting the energy community first.
But, you know, as, as, as, as the thing goes, like, you know,
there was a lot of, you know backlash and we uh we answered all
the questions and objections and everything and then like you know people like your project is
going dying and like you know there's this and that and i think the best way to manage that in
crypto is just keep working uh get things done uh push it out and that's it. Like that's the best answer that I would say.
And the answer is right in front of everybody.
You know, we are back on Endodax.
That's all Tommy.
That's nothing else, you know, that man literally like,
because I work closely with Tommy, right?
So he didn't give me that responsibility
because my plate was already full.
But while we were working on gmi airdrop on
the chain integration and everything i was seeing everything happening right in front of me uh in
the last whole month like you know the chain integration to indodax we have a good indonation
community by the way like you know um that are interested in energy has been a long-term supporter of energy like since 2020 19 you know
it's been it's been a long time um and uh yeah i was seeing like every week when i was seeing the
reports and everything like you know we were submitting the documentations and getting all of
that and um you know everything was uh getting out and tommy did not rush during that entire time like
he was getting things done so we're back on the exchange it gives people you know uh ability in
the local exchanges to buy um because because what happens with indodax is an indonation exchange
right so they have an on fiat ramp within their local currency so if you have like
their local currency indonation i think it's idr indonation rupiah so they can actually on ramp
directly into the exchange and then buy that and we are very thankful for the indodax exchange as
well to you know to facilitate this thing so we're right back here. And you know,
the funny part is I'm going to tell you every one of you guys like observe situations very carefully.
When things break and things are not working, even a little Tom, Dick and Harry will show up on the
Discord and start pulling your leg. So at this time you have to absolutely maintain your composure
don't stoop at that level never stoop at the level of people like you know bickering and fighting and
creating conflict just keep keep doing your work your and if you you want to answer to them just
just work hard get the job done um and it's right here so yep so liquidity bonds coming up um
very great way to get your hands early on onto the gmi token as we expand to multiple chains
um let me let me uh brief you guys uh and then uh you know next week we are going to take a break so and
this week we you know so we do that every week like every straight four or
five spaces we go and you know we kind of like take a break and then we resume
back it's a very healthy way to do things it gives you a perspective of you
know zooming back what went wrong what went right where do
we need to focus and so um yeah so liquidity bonds uh let me tell you what's happening here
and we are implementing this model across a lot of our partner chains uh so um you have say 500 worth of gmi and 500 worth of like partner tokens it could be eat it
could be you know apecoin or whatever like example like you know you lock it up in a liquidity pool
uniswap v3 or similar to that kind of structure you get an nft i you pass it across uh the you
just convert you're converting them to liquidity bonds.
Those positions are locked and those positions are running yield in GMI token.
And because of the tokenomics, what happens is GMI's price appreciates.
So you have a larger pool.
GMI becomes much more bigger as compared to the uh the chain token right that's that's how
it goes um so the rebalancing act automatically starts at the contract level in uniswap so
um then you have to get more of those partner tokens in order to rebalance that pool. So more of the partner token comes in and as GMI appreciates more and more in
value, you create a perpetual demand for the partner tokens.
And this will happen on energy. This will happen on our partner chains.
So what you guys are seeing is a complex you know interaction between
DeFi and NFTs which is simplified through for the user through the liquidity bonds so
and the beauty about this whole process is when we first started building GMI
the fun fact is we never I never saw myself at this stage,
you know, what we are building right now, what we are seeing here right now.
And it has been an absolute pleasure to watch how we are evolving and only time will tell,
like, you know, persistence. And some of you guys are part of our community, like, you know,
show up every time to the spaces or are part of our special, you know show up every time to the spaces or are part of
our special you know testing group um for gmi um and you get like early access to gmi features and
everything so uh thank you guys i appreciate it so yeah that's pretty much it uh the updates on gmi
because i wanted to give this updates because next week, like, you know, we're taking rest. So there's going to be a lot of updates
when we come back next to next week.
And yeah, there's going to be a lot of updates.
So hop onto our Discord, engage in our conversation.
You can see Tommy talking a lot,
getting feedback from the community.
Unfortunately, he will not be able to attend the spaces today, but he will be
there in the next to next spaces. So yeah, over to you, Gabby.
Yeah, Mark, I wanted to ask, I wanted to say first and foremost, you know, drama happens in
the space, but, you know, we keep our heads down, stay focused and keep building. So I love that
you said that a little earlier, you know, just keep building, you know, for people who come in and may disturb your discord or, you know, may post
something, you know, there's ways around that. So I really appreciate you saying that. And for the
LP bonds, is there somewhere where people can go and read about the LP bonds or what's happening?
Is there white people out there or anything to read as of yet or do you just have to be a part of the discord to find that
information we will be releasing more documentation on lp bonds um and we are working towards that
but uh we did not release the initial part because you know the product kept evolving
as we were as we were speaking so when we launched the first tranche on ethereum you will be immediately
uh directed to the documentation there as soon as we launch on ethereum so yeah uh because we
if we said something like you know we don't want to mislead people we don't want to change things
things like you can imagine like you know government agencies like are like the top on
giving directions right and if they say oh on day one they say okay this is this and then on day two
they say this is the no no this was not that like you know if they keep on changing people will
start losing their trust right the stability is not there so that's the reason why with with
liquidity bonds,
we did not release the documentation and everything yet
because the product kept evolving
because we are getting a lot of feedback
from people, from chains.
I'm really appreciative for a lot of chains
that we are talking to.
And it's been a pleasure being a builder
and hopping onto their Discord
and making these personal connections.
So that's the reason why we did not release the documentation yet.
But we will be releasing it as soon as like, you know, a few days earlier of the GMI ETH liquidity bond goes live.
We will be releasing that documentation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've been kind of just looking around.
I haven't said anything in Discord, but I have been in Discord kind of just reading,
and there are a lot of updates.
So if you're not in a Discord, you are missing out on updates on GMI.
So I also wanted to ask, Mark, because you talked about full stack and how full stack
is, you know, where you're spending a lot of your time instead of the smart contract.
So I kind of wanted to ask because I'm not sure if people understand.
I know I don't.
What does full stack involve?
What does it all involve that makes it, you know, so.
It's just a fancy term.
So like, you know, when you make a website, right,
you have different components that come together.
That's basically full stack. In
Web3, you are just, you know, connecting the smart contracts and the blockchains together on a web
interface. That's pretty much it. But there are layers to it. Yes, there are layers to it. Like,
you know, you have the back end, have the front end um so uh imagine you have
a website right gabby like a full-scale website so what does the website have it has a graphic
right if it has a graphic components that you react like you interact with it in the front end
um and in the back end you have like database in sql or you know mongol db database like you know this is very technical extremely technical now
that you're connecting to the front end so yeah that's pretty much it but it takes a lot of time
because unlike web2 web2 does web2 does not have a smart contract what it does have is
a smart contract what it does have is a
centralized storage so if you were to take like an amazon website right it's fetching data from
databases and apis and all of that well on the web3 part you have the smart contracts and the smart contracts are also
connected to the blockchain so sometimes you know you're also calling the blockchain you're also
calling the smart contract there's like different layers of it but it's just a fancy term of like
you know uh the development that happens on the web app uh which is where user interact. And I always tell everybody, like, you know,
please, as developers, always wear your user hat.
Do not wear your developer hat.
Because if you are wearing a developer hat,
you will make a best product in terms of coding and all of that.
But when it comes to users, you're going to suck.
Because, you know, you build a product based on the
feedback of the user so whenever you're testing and whenever you're building the product always
wear your user hat because and and the best way is this is what i do actually this is very funny
i i just take my phone and i will just give it to my friends kids and be like hey um just scroll
through gmi and let me know how what you like about it and what you dislike about it.
Or I would give it to somebody that does not know crypto or NFT and see how they play with the website.
And that gives me a hint. If they're able to maneuver our website very quickly,
then imagine what the rest of the average crypto crowd can do?
You know, I really appreciate you explaining that, you know,
because sometimes, you know, we use these fancy words and then, you know,
some of us, we don't, if we're not technical, we don't know. I mean,
I've heard of it before, but that's not something that you hear on a daily
basis. So we're like, it help you.
It really helps to explain that part of it.
And I'll just say, when you said you took my next question, because I'm going to say, okay,
is it hard to take off your developer hat? Because you said you do give the phone to your
friends, children, and have them test it out. And if they can use it, then, you know, it's pretty
easy to navigate. You know, you think it's pretty user-friendly. But I wanted to navigate um you know you think it's pretty easy uh user friendly but i wanted to
ask you know is it hard to take your developer hat off and just be that end user sometimes when
you're developing i mean that could be any developer that's in here i i would just i just have
a message to all of them um and it's pretty apparent gabby like have you gone to spaces where you know these okay very
good example is Sandeep Nailwal right he's the founder of Polygon go and check
like he's his founder plus he's a tech person he's been active since the
Bitcoin days talking in the Bitcoin forum and you know he has been very, very active.
He has been very, very active during those times.
And what he has done is he understood the users right from the get-go, right?
Then you have Anatoly from, you know, Solana, very active on the spaces, right?
When he's talking and when he's speaking
you know you you see those people when they talk um they have the developer hat as well as their user hat this user hat is coming from the point that they're very active during the spaces like
they their presence is very there and and you know um you can tell like you know i was busy and i was all of this and that
and like you know um but you need to be active during the spaces that's how you're going to get
your user hat on and in crypto you you require that like you 100 percent require that without
user feedback you're going to be in you're going to make like a very beautiful product but a product that's like you know um
like on the on the coding side but on the user side it's just gonna suck because you're not gonna
get that feedback right uh that's why if you see tommy interacting with users like literally go
into the discord and see like what he says well he's listening to the users right so please if you are building um you know uh in in crypto space
it is very essential i mean you you're just gonna destroy your i've seen career goes go into like
shithole like literally i'm using the word shithole like seven eight years of careers going in shithole
uh because you know people have blocked themselves away from users they treat
users like crap or they don't even they just build and they have this very
arrogant and very filthy attitude like I'm just letting you guys know like my
honest feelings is you know they just go and treat the users like crap like just
because they're not able to use it you got to understand
one thing your average crypto user is not as educated as you as a developer is going to be
right or a u.s like a season app user going to be so when you're you are building dApps and when
you're building the user interfaces and everything you got to keep the user like you know the the
end user in the mind right like how will my end user react to this how am i end
user going to use the platform so when we built that the the very good example is when we built
the refundable mints right um when we when we were building that um uh tommy tasked me to direct um
you know the the building of this entire flow and i built it in such a way that you know, the building of this entire flow. And I built it in such a way that, you know,
I was talking to my friends and family around me,
like, you know, hey guys, this is the flow.
This is this, this is this, like, you know,
it had to be as simple as that one, right?
And that all came with the perspective of the user.
When you first launch a refundable contracts,
I wanted to see like, you you know how people react to it like you know so a part a huge part of my whole you know
thing is interacting with the users I still hop onto the discord like you know I'm still
interacting with the community I still you, would get a feedback from them.
We still have, like, you know, a special GMI testing group.
Like, we are a few people there, very concentrated.
But I am always listening to the people, right?
And I will be going on to a lot of spaces and talking about GMI once, you know, we have a little bit of fine
tuning this week. Once that is done, I think we are good to go.
You know, that's really good, Mark, because you just said we'll be taking a rest next
week, but we'll be back. I see Bade Billiards is in the house. Welcome. If you could, Mark,
you know, send them the mic to speak. I think we lost him too. But anybody,
if you have any questions, feel free to come up. We're having a chill space. Feel free to also put
it in the comment section if you don't feel like coming up or if you're a little bit busy. We
understand. But Mark, thank you so much for letting us know that the user experience is
important. And you're not going to get it right the first time, but, you know, keep plugging away and make sure you have some testers that can test it for you to help, you know, give that great feedback.
That's always necessary when you're in this space building.
So, yeah, that's very, extremely helpful.
So, you said Tommy wasn't able to be here today.
Did you say he was out for a little bit or is he okay
uh yep the the revamping of our airdrop and as we're integrating new chains and liquidity bonds
coming up um you know um he he uh i i did let him like you know uh be on the part where he needs to
focus on those so yeah you'll see a lot of products and a lot of announcement.
And that's where you're seeing Indodex, right?
The Indodex listing back again.
That's all Tommy, like Tommy's hard work.
Like, you know, he was the market maker.
He was talking to the market makers.
He's doing this, he's doing that.
Doing a lot of things in the background.
So yeah, next to next places, he'll be back.
I know we can't be stingy with his time. I know we want developers to be in here all the time to
talk to the people, but that's not always, you know, something that can be done. So, you know,
it's great to have, you know, people out here to speak on the behalf of the project,
who are also working on a project, working hard as well, because sometimes you do wonder, it's
like, okay, where are the developers here? You know, learn? But also going to Discords and Telegrams are a huge,
huge help. I'm not really a big talker in most places, but I will say I'm in a lot of
different Telegrams and a lot of different Discords, and I kind of just see what's going
on, see all the news that's going on. But the Ape Chain, I will say when I went in to use the GMI app,
I did see the Ape Chain and I did look at the Ape NFTs that were there.
I was like, oh, okay, this is really nice.
So if you haven't, GMI does have an app.
I did download it from my Play Store.
I have an Android, so I do download a lot of different things from my Android.
And the GMI app was really nice. It had all the different chains there and super easy to use.
It is easy to navigate. So I think Tommy was asking about feedback last week and I was like, oh, I didn't even know. So I was trying to do it as I was in the space. But yeah, it's
very, very user friendly, very, very easy to use. So, you know, it's hard to get feedback when you
don't know what to say. As far as you know, you've tried it and it's very easy to use. So I hope
others find it easy. And if you don't, make sure you go to Discord and ask questions. But I see we
have Karma Gang up here. I'm so happy that Karma Gang is here.
How are you today?
Hello, everyone. I'm doing well. Thank you for letting me come up here and speak for a moment.
Something that I wanted to come up, the reason I came up, I joined a little late. I'm not exactly sure what project or what platform you were referring to, Mark.
But I did want to say from an end user perspective, I'm not technically inclined. I don't code.
But from an end user point of view, it is very important for whatever you're building to be fluid, to look good, to be very user friendly.
And I strongly agree with your comment that as a developer, there needs to be some sort
of end user thought behind what you're building.
Because I've seen, personally, I've seen some great projects that have technical ability to go far that just are clunky, cluttered mess from an end user perspective, and they never gain traction.
So what you're saying to me, Mark, that hit home.
Thank you for saying it.
Mark, are you there?
I hope we didn't lose Mark.
No, no, no.
I'm here.
Thank you, Karma.
I really appreciate your kind work and your feedback.
You know, and it's always great to get that feedback.
We're all end users at the end of the day, like you said, Karma gang.
So keeping the end user in mind is always helpful that they go through the UI, UX.
the end user in mind is always helpful that they go through the UI UX. And I was going to ask if
you have, well, when you're dealing with, you know, user interface and user experience,
you know, there are people who are in this space that actually have that background.
And I met some people early on in the space that would, you know, specifically work on UI UX.
And so that would be really helpful to projects, but I also understand
sticking within a budget because they may or may not be affordable. So you have to kind of utilize
what, you know, may not cost as much. But I want to say that where UI UX experience people,
I have to go back and find them. They're under my other account. I used to follow a lot of
different people because I wanted to know what type of talents were inside of Twitter because there's so many people with so many different talents
that if everybody just kind of worked together, you could utilize somebody that has that experience.
So yeah, that's very, very, very true Karma Gang. And I know if you go to GMI and the App Store are going to make it marketplace, they do have an app.
And, you know, try to use it even if you, you know, you're not ready to use it as of yet.
They do have an app.
And I will say there have been some changes that have been made and they've been really user friendly.
So it is easier once you learn because I think as newbies to any app,
you know, it takes some time to just play around
and figure it out because everything is not always easy
to use the first time around, right?
You kind of have to go in there and play around.
You're not gonna break anything.
You're not the developer.
I'm sure they're back there breaking everything they can
in order to figure out if it's breakable, you know,
and then they get feedback from us, the end users.
So that's always helpful. But yeah, there's a lot of apps out here. And like you said,
they're clunky, you know, never gained traction. Haven't really experienced that yet,
Karma Gang, but I'm not sure when you used certain apps, did you feel like, oh, I never want to use this again because it's too clunky. What was it about it? Was it not nice? Was it dull looking, no colors? Like, you know,
couldn't navigate it well. What was your experience as far as, you know,
like you said, it being clunky, like what specifically would you say was,
you know, not so great of an experience?
Well, for me and for me personally,
to be a little bit more transparent for those who don't know, I'm not, you know, I'm an end user, but I'm not new.
I've been in crypto since like 2019. So been in DeFi since like 2021, primarily in DeFi since 2021.
primarily in DeFi since 2021.
And when I'm referring to clunky, it's more or less like I've been on apps, for instance,
where you go to interact with the app.
Like, let's say it's a NFT raffle where you're minting an NFT, then you uh vest it so to speak and then there's a pool based upon the sales and
you know everyone gets rewards based on the nft etc etc and it's just like the user interface you
have to go to 10 different pages and it almost seems redundant so there's like a redundancy factor when i speak
on clunkiness um almost like uh they could they could have turned five transactions into three
and then you're instead you have to traverse it and it gets confusing if you're i could imagine
it would be confusing for a new user because someone who's, you know, I've been dealing with different platforms, et cetera, for years.
And it keeps confusing to me.
So when I say clunky, it's more or less like if I go to your platform and I have to do even the slightest slightest bit of like oh hold on let me figure
this out for you know 20 minutes i can only expect a new user someone who's never been in here they're
gonna be like well i give up this no no way so everything should be fluid it should be like
almost like a self tutorial when you use you know apps and certain apps that do that have that factored
in, like even the little bubbles that have the information.
Those are so key to have, you know, it's just little things like that, almost like the,
like what you're saying, the UI technical analysts or, you know, the specialists.
Those guys are very, very, very key, in my opinion, to making your project accessible to the masses.
Oh, I appreciate that, Karma Gang.
I can empathize or sympathize with you on the experience of five transactions turning into three or less.
And you're like, OK, I have to approve this and do this.
And I understand that there are levels to it and the reasons why you have to do some of those things.
But yeah, like you said, different pages or, you know, I didn't know I would have to do this
transaction and this transaction and this transaction. I think it's the importance of
understanding why you have to do those transactions. That's not always, you know,
easy to decipher. It's like, why do I have to do this?
What does it do?
Is there a way to explain it as I'm doing it or have some kind of pop-up, like you said, bubble or something there that says, this is why you're doing this transaction, especially for somebody new because you're right.
It's easy to say, you know what?
I am not doing this or you forget and you think you've already made the transaction, but you haven't completed it quite yet because you have another transaction to approve
and then the final transaction to finalize it. There's a lot there, and I think that's a little
bit hard to understand, so I really do sympathize with you, and I totally understand being in this
space. I came in 2021, been in crypto since 2017.
So I truly understand, like I didn't understand anything about DeFi.
I wish there was a way to understand DeFi a little bit better before people start introducing it to you. But I think that becomes a us thing where we learn and then we bring people in to help them learn the same way.
same way. So I truly understand that perspective and appreciate you being transparent about,
you know, what part of the clunkiness that you were referring to becomes like a, like sort of
like a transaction in so many pages. That really does bring home to the idea. I'm not sure if
anybody else has experienced this, but it's truly something that, you know, it's a lot. It can be a
lot at times. So Mark, do you think that things could be a little bit more simpler, you know it it's a lot it can be a lot at times so mark do you think that things could be
a little bit more simpler you know to karma gang's point you know so going to 10 pages reducing you
know transactions from five to three you know or even just one full transaction that does
everything behind the scenes i don't know if that's even possible
yeah and i'll give you a very good example gabby um
and i'll encourage you to try that on gmi as well um uh so this is very funny um We used to have like, you know, when you had like hundreds and maybe like 50 or 60 NFTs from a collection in your wallet, right? You go and you try to list them, right? Because the price of the token changes. So you're trying to, you know, adjust the price and adjust the listing so uh when when we had the first iteration of gmi
uh you had to actually confirm all the 50 transactions every time like in your wallet you know
but now what you have to do here is when you have this 50 right uh you just click on like you know a universal price and it applies
to all of the 50 for listing once once you're done uh you get just one single signature that comes
to your metamask and once you confirm that boom your listing is done uh the first thing is the
signature that that is absolutely necessary.
Now this, you cannot escape that because this is like a standard agreement, right?
You got to sign what you're buying or whatever the contract or whatever it is, right?
So that signature is available.
So nobody can dispute that.
Like, hey, I did not get this warning or I did not set this price.
You did sign it and then after signing you confirm the
transaction so there's a two-way process right so instead of signing 50 times in the wallet we just
like reduced it to just one time um and just made like you know that's that's how you you go from
like being bulky to where you lean for a good user experience. So you're just clicking
on one place. I hope that makes sense. It does make sense. And I do want to pass it back to
Carmagaine because this is exactly what he was just saying, you know, from 50 transactions, like
how was it 50 in the beginning and then reduced down was it automatically reduced down or did people really have to literally approve 50 transactions that you know each time
or did you already set it up to where they didn't have to do that well we right right now they don't
have to do that we bundle all the transaction into a single transaction batched it up together
and then that's how that works uh we just bundle it up and then push it to the blockchain
instead of having like go and approve like all 50 at a single time.
And that's why I'm saying, Gabi, this is very important.
Again, this ties to the fact that you 90% of the time
should be wearing the user hat.
If you're not wearing the user hat,
your career in crypto and Web3 is done. Like literally done. literally done okay I'm gonna give you a very good example okay not
berating anybody not chastising anybody nothing okay in crypto space and in
co-workers like you know so not not go it's like you know you you come into the
space and there's gonna be a lot of charlatans and like you know you you come into the space and there's going to be a lot of charlatans
and like you know people that will come and say we support you and just trying to grab your attention
have absolutely no intention of providing any value they'll come you know however are you like
try to grab your attention and all that got to be wary of these people right um and those are the
people like you know that don't have that attitude of you know catering
understanding the user catering to their needs and building the users building the ecosystem
and the blockchain around it you really don't want that kind of people whether they might be
in the dev community whether they might be in the moderator community or just the community
community itself like you want to
be like literally away from these kind of people because what they're going to do is they're going
to start building products they're going to start building systems that's going to affect your user
experience so i had a simple uh thing happen i think last week and i think MFT was here as well. This is very very important for you guys
that are using MetaMask. So apparently MetaMask has this bug okay and I don't know whether it's
from MetaMask or it's maybe just because like you know it is just the way it is. After a certain
while when you're using MetaMask, especially on the browser, like Edge browser from Microsoft, MetaMask gets like really heavy and it stops interacting with your platform.
What happens is when you try to connect your platforms, you know, any platform to your wallet, it won't connect.
It would either get stuck, it would get, the wheels will keep spinning.
So you know, I just went to this XYZ person and I just like, you know, informed him like,
Hey, this is happening.
And we went to the user and we're looking at all of this and you know, this, this, this
XYZ that's happened.
And then like, you know, he came back to me and he is informing me just on the user end.
Like, you know, the user is facing, you know, whatever it is, XYZ.
I have seen people that have gone to the ends of the earth and saying that this is an edge case, right?
gone to the ends of the earth and saying that this is an edge case right and they have solved it
even if even though it it resulted it like it was only being experienced by a single person or
one person or two person but eventually over a period of time that one person becomes like 100
percent it will happen so right from the get-go i i if see this kind of like, you know,
answer or behavior from anybody coming,
I really don't wanna work with that kind of person
because he's gonna put the blame on the other users.
One second.
Mark, while he's handling that, I know, you know, it is really helpful to explain, you
know, how easy it is to work with people and get great feedback for the end users.
And, you know, I haven't.
Okay, you're back.
Okay.
I'm sorry, guys.
No, no.
I just want to go ahead.
So like, you know, if you don't solve that one edge case, that edge case is going to balloon for like 100, 100 people, right?
And if you're saying to me, oh, it's just the user it's facing, the user needs to solve, then who are you?
Aren't you also a user?
So let's mimic this.
Let's see what's going on, right?
Let's try to hunt that very last person, right, who is experiencing this. And whenever this thing
happened, which we cannot replicate this bug, right? This bug happens just tend to happen
when it happens, right? So you got to lay your strategy around that. People say they want to
build their career in Web3. They want to be a Web3 developer. They want to be this thing in Web3,
but they hardly understand what it means to be in Web3. They don't even observe the good
trades. They try to bring in their ego and they completely misunderstand users. They do not
understand the fact how valuable users are and their experience.
Like they don't treasure that.
So like this, this bug is a very simple MetaMask bug.
Okay.
MetaMask gets clunky.
It's almost like your browser that has used a lot of your memory in your PC and you need
to clean the memory.
So how do you clean that memory for MetaMask is you just go to the extension and just there's a toggle button just toggle on and off and what it does it resets
the cache of MetaMask and you know I was fortunate enough we had another team member that encountered
the same issue, replicated the same bug like went through the length, right? To see that happening in multiple browsers.
And then he implemented those changes.
We shared those changes with the MetaMask team.
We went on to the Discord, like, you know,
hey, this is happening.
You know, they directed to their support.
And this is where I'm telling you guys,
pay close attention to your users.
Be like Amazon's founder founder jeff bezos had a simple word like be
obsessed with your customers right and that's what we are at energy we're like literally obsessed
with our customers like go go and check our discord in the tickets like you know we're always
you know asking for people of their feedback and everything and this is how you solve the problem
so metamask has this bug.
And unfortunately, MetaMask is not our app.
So the best thing we can do here is just ask the user, like, hey, go to your extension,
click on manage extension, and then, like, you know, just toggle on and off.
That resets the entire cache of MetaMask.
And then when you reconnect it again, you're able to reconnect it. Because we initially thought we had the problem only with our platform,
but we were able to replicate it.
We were not able to connect it to Blur.
We were not able to connect to Magic Eden.
Everything was clunky.
And then we realized...
And this is where coming into the part where
you are as a developer you are understanding the user's perspective replicating their issues and
and you know solving them you're going to create a good user experience um and the best part to test
your ui is on mobile um and if you are able to just execute a lot of things on mobile in one screen
that means you build a good UI.
You know Mark I appreciate you saying that because sometimes the interface on the mobile versus the
desktop or you know laptop or whatnot is very different and you know there is coinbase it tends to be a little different so kind of when you're helping
people on board or navigate it is it's not the same if someone's on a computer
versus being on the phone and so I wanted to ask you know what you know is
it better to replicate or can you replicate or would you replicate the
experience on the phone to the desktop?
Because otherwise it can be a little bit more confusing because I know sometimes on the desktop
it is not the exact same that it is on the phone. Why is this or why would that happen?
Mark, are you there? Did I lose you?
No. Are you talking about in terms of user interface?
Yes. Yeah, more of the user interface. Because if I were to use GMI on my desktop, I would
have to go back and look because I hadn't had my desktop or my laptop in a little while.
And sometimes the user interface is not the same. And I would have to see if it's not the same for GMI.
But I do know, at least for Coinbase,
I'm familiar with and, you know,
Most of the apps, you're going to face it this way, right?
The desktop version is always going to be there.
The mobile version, it's just the nature of it
because, you know, you're building it in such a way
that, you know, you are, you know you're building it in such a way that you know you are um you know you are um
you're catering to a larger screen right so it's going to be a little different and people want
that like um if you're a trader you will know exactly what i'm saying like the ui on your mobile
when you trade is very different from the desktop because on desktop you need like bigger charts and
You know, there's a lot more real estate on on desktop as compared to mobile mobile
You're just there because you want to execute things faster
Like I want to go to uniswap and just swap some of the tokens from this to that and and that's it
But when you are on desktop, like, you know, you're looking at
the charts, you're looking like, you know, trying to, you know, list and bid in certain ranges and
all of that, if that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. That does make sense because you are using
different charts and stuff on computers and laptops or whatnot. And I have a lot of people
have different screens. So I'm totally, totally familiar familiar with that but I do want to kind of go back to one
statement that you made you know as Karma gang was saying Karma gang we lost you up here but
that's okay if you want to come back up please do you know taking transactions from 50 to one
and you said something about batching and bundling is that something that's easy to do
is that why do a lot of people do it do they batch and bundle a lot of their transactions and that's
why we can see one transaction or you know most people don't do it because it's not cost effective
or something of that sort most of the people try to do the transactions. If you go to Blur, a lot of their bidding and listing happens on their platform.
So it's not even happening on the blockchain.
That's my personal experience.
I might be wrong here.
But when you're listing certain NFTs or when you're buying certain NFTs,
most of the things, they try to limit the amount of gas you're paying on Ethereum
by limiting on-chain
transactions so they're making it like more on a platform which is a good experience for some
people because you not only save gas and that's what we've done at energy uh sorry at gmi uh we've
eliminated the platform fees as well right user convenience so if you are like for example if you trade like a dragon digit nft which is like 15 000 12 000 so every time you trade it uh you will have to pay you had to pay
like 0.019 uh uh platform fees which equates to close to around 300 energy for every 15,000 energy you traded like any NFT worth of that.
So removing that creates more, more like, you know, more trading activity.
It will boost more trading activity.
Similarly, when you bunch those transactions, you are not only conveniencing people to like
not having to signature sign,
like each of the transactions also like, you know,
but single transaction batching was also convenient. So there is,
there is also a cost side that you're catering for your audience by having them
to pay less for transaction,
especially those that engage in a lot of bulk transactions.
And then the second part is the convenience, right?
You don't want to click buttons.
Like imagine you have to go through a lot of like,
click this, click that, click this, click that.
And then, you know, your user experiences.
So you just want to be on the platform
and you just want to get the job done, basically.
Thank you for that, Marga.
I think a keyword that you said were
fees. I don't know anybody, I don't like fees when I go to the store or anything like that. So
reducing people's fees I think is helpful. You know even when people purchase whether it's during the
day when energy costs are a lot higher, things are a lot higher, then people wait until the middle of
the night, two and three o'clock in the morning, hence the word DGEN.
You finally get to understand what that truly means when you're really trying to
make your transactions and have to figure out when's the best time to do it.
Because when one side of the world is sleep, another side of the world is awake.
And so, you know,
it really does help reducing fees because I don't know about anybody in the room,
but I don't like fees, you know,
in everyday life that we see. So anybody that can reduce fees, you know, you even think about,
you know, people adopting, you know, crypto or blockchain technology just in the regular stores
that we go to every day because there's a fee. I don't know if many people see that sometimes and
maybe a gas station that you go to that there's a minimum of a $5 purchase so
that you can avoid the fee that you're charged by the actual, you know, vendor or the business.
So I can't wait to see some of those things being gotten rid of because fees are annoying and they
add up too. I mean, sometimes, I mean, if you don't keep track of your fees, you know, you might not
be able to write them off, but you know, it's, it's hard to kind of keep track of them, especially if you
don't understand them, you know, and I don't know how many people, I know I've been practicing
reading the ether scan, but that's not always easy either. So, you know, I think the one perfect
thing that you said is reducing fees, zero to no fees, or, if the fees there it's so minute that you know you
can just bypass it you know and it's like it it doesn't feel like you're you're losing all your
money just to fees and so especially if you want to make multiple transactions so um fees are a big
huge thing and i see crypto and the blockchain just helping with reduction of fees as it continues to
you know undergo development more development and more adoption.
The only thing that I see as potential problems are congestion.
And that congestion is real.
And when congestion is heavy, those fees go up.
And it's great to have these different blockchains and different networks that you can operate on, because when you want to make a purchase and you're sitting there clicking the button over and over and over and over again, you know, that can be a point of contention. past your transaction. So I don't know if anybody's experienced that, but I'm sure we all have in this
space. But the congestion, you know, getting around that is going to be key because if we
have congestion now and only 5% or whatever, you know, are into crypto, imagine when mass adoption
comes in there, you know, the congestion could be even worse. So, you know, how do we combat that?
Or how is GMI combating the congestion? I don't know if you can, or, you know, how do we combat that? Or how is GMI combating the congestion?
I don't know if you can,
or you know what workarounds does GMI have
to help with congestion?
I think the debate really is to avoid congestion.
Obviously, the thing is the sales,
the transactions for sale
have to be settled on the blockchain.
Absolutely, there's no leeway around it.
But things like bidding and listing and all of those, I think those can be taken away from the blockchain.
And I'm just like, you know, I'm just very early on thinking on this one.
But it will obviously depend on what blockchain GMI is on, right?
Because you could have good seats and good leather interiors and everything like, you know, but and, you know, a good hood and a good engine and every good thing.
But if your roads are not good, your car is still going to stumble right
so basically what i'm hinting here is your highway your road is uh your blockchain and if your
blockchain is uh not able to handle that traffic it just it just not your network is going to be
congested like there's nothing GMI can do here
because it's, it's completely the highway infrastructure is built by the blockchain.
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. And I think that's why, you know, interoperability between
chains and that, and that could be totally wrong would be necessary because if, you know,
someone else says, you know, if I want to buy something and I can go through another chain to get that same, you know,
NFT or what have you, I would prefer to go a different route instead of using the most
congested route, you know, out there.
But, you know, you have to figure out what chains you can use, what NFTs are there, and
how interoperable we are between all these different networks. I would think,
but I could totally be wrong. That's kind of how I'm thinking about it. But yeah, I would say the
only thing that's kind of left to, you know, decipher and kind of pull together would be,
you know, how to reduce that congestion. And I think interoperability could be a big, big,
big, big help. And I want to say GMI is doing that.
You're incorporating, you know, the Ape Chain NFTs there.
So, you know, they may have to go, you know, somewhere else to purchase or whatnot.
And then they can stay within here.
But does the same, hmm, how do I ask this question?
Does the same, like Ape Chain itself, do they, I would think they have their own marketplace.
I'm not really familiar with them but you all have uh ape chain nfts a route to get to those same nfts
through gmi so would that not reduce the network congestion if let's say a chain or a chain
marketplace nft marketplace um has congestion on their end that i can just go through gmi and get that same it will
all depend upon the blockchain gabby like you know the blockchain is really good uh if it's
if it's able to handle like heavy pressure uh you won't see congestion like literally you won't see
any congestion because at the end of the day um you can have a fancy card right you can have a fancy card, right? You can have a fancy app.
But when you're sending money at the backend,
like, you know, it's the bank's servers
that you are interacting with,
they need to be really good.
They need to settle the transaction quickly.
If they're not doing their job properly,
then your UI and your card and everything won't matter.
Like you can tap on the screen, you can tap on the POS, properly then your UI and your card and everything won't matter. You can
tap on the screen, you can tap on the POS, you will hear the noise and
everything but you'll just get stuck on the transaction because your bank's
servers or your bank's settlement infrastructure is weak. So it will
all depend on the blockchain. You could have, you know, 10 to 15, 20 NFT marketplaces on a blockchain, but if their infrastructure is not good to handle pressure, when there's like increased amount of activity, it is just not going to work.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Choose your network wisely. Yeah, that makes sense. Choose. Yeah.
your network wisely uh yeah that makes sense choose yeah well interoperability wouldn't that
still be uh important for everybody to kind of just work together because let's say it's where
the bridge comes in uh we have the multi-chain bridge right so you have crypto both on energy
and on gmi uh sorry on energy and ethereum right so if you were to go on ethereum you have like a
prohibitive amount of money if you're fast trading it right uh you come to geo you come on the energy
side you get a 24 7 protection of your nfts plus you have like you the the fees is like in pennies like fraction of the pennies like 0.00001 cents so you can fast trade
it now that couple that with zero percent platform fees you're just saving a lot um when you when
you're trading on energy is is that making sense so when you're thinking about interoperability
uh the cross-chain nft bridge is what facilitates that.
Because you can have an NFT on a thick monolithic chain like, you know, Ethereum,
which causes you a lot of fees, network fees while you're transacting.
Not ideal for traders, right?
And then you take it to energy.
You have the security now, plus you don't have
to face like disorban amount of like fees. Yes, that does make sense because I was going to say
this, I was going to ask another question, you know, whether, you know, whether the ETH side,
you know, or GMI, you know, like you said, going to GMI is cheaper, cheaper fees where you stay on
ETH. It's a little, you know, it's a little bit more expensive. I love ETH.
I like to use ETH, but the fees can be a little bit taxing.
But would the same NFTs be on both networks?
So would it be on ETH and then you have that same, you know,
NFT on energy or would they be different?
Or can they be different?
Hope I'm asking my question right.
Because would somebody want a different NF...
Are you there, Mark?
I can't hear you.
Oh, I'm here, Gabby.
So no, there's always going to be a single NFT.
So when you move your NFT from like Ethereum to energy, you're locking it in a smart contract on
the bridge and then you have only one copy available. So that NFT that is on the Ethereum
chain goes away, get locked into a smart contract and its copy is available on the energy chain is that making sense yes yes can you
make i guess my i guess my question probably wasn't a little clear but i do understand that part but
under the gmi energy let's say if they're you know you have an n with, you know, one trait can in your let's say you have NFTs on energy of that same, you know, I'll just say crypto chicks because that's what I'm familiar with.
The crypto chicks has an NFT on ETH and they're not ready to bridge it, but they want to buy a crypto chick on, you know, under GMI.
on, you know, under GMI. Can you find the same NFTs on ETH that you can on the GMI NFT marketplace?
Or are they different? Can they be different?
I feel like I'm losing you.
No, no, I'm here.
So example, like you have NFT number one, like crypto chicks number one, right?
You had it on Ethereum.
Let's take it with an example, right?
And you move it across the bridge nft number one the very first
crypto chicks nft and now you can see it on energy right because you port it over to the energy
uh you won't find that nft on the ethereum side and if you're using the same platform like gmi
and you go and switch the network and you're on the same collection like crypto checks you won't find nft number one is that making sense on the ethereum side but when you switch
network to energy right you're on the energy blockchain same platform gmi same collection
crypto checks now you're you would be able to see n number one. Is that making sense?
So you cannot see on both chains at the same time two NFTs
because that would be violating the non-fungible token.
That's why they're called non-fungible tokens, right?
There's not going to be two things of those existing at the same time.
So the one that you're seeing on energy
is a copy of it which locked into a smart contract it's kind of like a derivative
okay yeah that that part makes sense i feel like i'm still not asking my question with clarity
um i have to think of another way to ask that question um because let's say you know that you have the collection i'm just using you know uh cryptochix as an example that same collection is that same
collection the same collection that is on the okay i think i think that was more of that was
more of my question so if i see you know number five49 i see 549 on ethereum on the open c uh under open c
and i also see that on gmi i can just buy it on either on either but you got to remember what
change what chain you are right so uh if you move 549 to energy it won't be no longer it will be
no longer available on ethereum And now if OpenSea
is showing that, that means they have an old data. The data is not accurate. It should not be on
the Ethereum side if you bridge it to energy. Is that making sense?
Yep, makes sense. But I see where people do have to bridge on to GMI. But once you bridge on,
where people do have to bridge on to GMI, but once you bridge on, your ability to bridge off
at the current moment doesn't exist. Will there be an opportunity to bridge off eventually,
if you would like to? I mean, I don't know why you would, but if people want to bridge off,
can they in the future? And that's the reason why we immediately
like, you know, inform people while they were bridging, right? This is a one-way bridge.
We don't know whether, you know, what time and what date we will make it like two ways
so for right now if you want to be on energy this is a one-way bridge yep
like these sessions are always good learning sessions and that you know i love the learning
it never stops and it's always good to to be in here to learn every single Sunday. I feel like there's never a dull day on crypto Twitter. And it has been an eventful week this far. So, yeah, Mark, it's great to hear with GMI and Energy and everyone and Tommy and you and the rest of the team are always working on because I see you always in discord. I'm in discord, you know, chatting back and forth with you,
queen and a few others, you know, as everybody's working behind the scenes.
So I just want to say thank you for what you do and Sulzaki for always
playing music. And I didn't know if bad a billiards had some time and wanted to
come up and talk and, you know, because I know we're holding our space to,
I think you said Mark, we have to hold our space to two hours.
I think we were going like three hours at a time almost or two and a half
hours. And so I know we'll be sticking with that.
And before we end,
you'll be making the announcement about the rewards at the top.
So I didn't know if that ability had an opportunity wanted to come up at all,
or if anyone had any questions, Mark, go ahead.
I think, I think we'll wrap up today very soon.
Been like about five minutes. And if there's no more question,
we'll just wrap up the space very quickly today.
Oh, oh, wow. I guess you're giving us time back from last week.
No, just Tom is not here, right?
So I just want to make sure that, you know, we, we, the reason why we are doing these spaces is I love getting in touch with people, right?
Getting in touch with audiences, like, you know, trying to hear their perspective, trying to hear their thoughts.
And, you know, you have to create a routine in coming
and speaking on spaces like you have to do that um if you're not doing it it's a big mistake uh
you need to talk to your audience and i think the spaces and sometimes you know you got to keep the
balance sometimes it's really hard uh sometimes. Sometimes it takes a lot of time.
And, you know, I keep it like we keep the space like 100% organic.
I mean, sure, we could pay people like, you know, to have like 4,000, 5,000 people at 10 or special.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Like the amount of, you know, trash there's on X.
Like you go to a project which is which is barely any product
it's like not even there and you go and look at their spaces you have like 4 000 people attend
the spaces and i'm like what what what the hell what the hell in the world like you guys are
cooking like you know for 4 000 people are coming and attending your space like what what miracle
portion are you making like are you making a Bitcoin or something like that?
You know, for 4,000 people to attend your space
for like three hours.
And so, yeah.
So just keeping the momentum, like, you know,
in the spaces going on.
So getting the feedback and just getting in the habit, right?
You have to get into the habit of staying consistent
and getting, you know,
things underway. I appreciate that, Margie, because for anybody who's consistent in here,
I guess that helps build trust too. I love that get into a routine and be consistent. If anything
I've learned from you and Queen is like, you guys are always out here grinding. I see bad
billiards out here. A lot of people in the space that are consistently out here all the time.
I mean, hopefully everybody's touching some grass, Sulsaki, everybody, you know, Karma Gang.
You know, I see a lot of people in here all the time.
Rushman, love to see you.
Thank you for being here.
And so it's what keeps the space going and keeping the information very transparent for people.
I think that's the name of the future is transparency and doing
things right. So I really appreciate, you know, being here every week with you and Tommy and
sharing the stage with Sulzaki and all the rest of the projects, Baddie Billiards, Little Lettuce
Monsters, you know, Gummy Invasions, you know, they're always here and showing up. Calvin J.
down there at the bottom. Definitely everybody in here.
There's lots and lots of people in my,
I'm sorry if I don't call your name out,
but that consistency does matter.
You know, people want to believe in something and if they believe in something
because they see it all the time,
then just continue.
So I really appreciate being here all the time
and being a part of something that's big
and getting ready to make waves
and that's already making waves, but also that's big and getting ready to make waves and that's already making
waves but also that's consistent and helping people learn and grow so i appreciate that and
us giving us some time back in our day um that allows us to touch some grass too so and that's
a good thing so i'll pass it back over to you mark uh for the closing or for the for the giveaway
for the closing or for the giveaway.
Yeah, today I'm actually seeing nobody in the comment section other than Mikosh.
So there's only one person that shared his referral link and that's Mikosh.
So congratulations, Mikosh.
I just wanted to see if people can do that. So and obviously you can't be the repeat winners, right? In the sense like if you won like a week ago or two weeks ago, it's just, you know, the X algorithm screens you out. So if you won first time, let other people's win. Your chance will come back again next week.
So congratulations Mikosh. Mikosh is also part of our Raiders group.
So yep there's our winner. Actually if you go and look in the comment section he's the only one that other than Mfiti that has
actually gone and
did it
that's a winner
alright
I think that's it Gabby
next to next week we'll see this
see everyone
back
and we're going to do a huge blast so next to next week when we'll see everyone back.
And we're going to do a huge blast.
So next to next week, when we come in, there's going to be a huge update.
Or, you know, get ready for GMI liquidity bonds.
Like, they're going to go live.
And this next week, it'll give us time to do a lot of marketing.
You'll see a lot of activity on Twitter and everything.
That's going to be exciting.
There's going to be so much news.
I think this place will be packed.
And so we're giving everybody a rest just for next Sunday.
We won't have a space.
But the week after, the following Sunday, we will be back with lots of information and good stuff that you won't want to miss so invite your friends family you know everybody that you can so that you can hear about what's going on and possibly get a liquidity bond I
think that's gonna be really good
all right for some reason I'm not able to accept Sulu Zaki's request.
So I guess one second.
Let me see.
Go ahead, Sulu Zaki.
You can play the music now.
All right, Gabby.
We'll see you guys next week.
Okay, so please keep an eye on our announcement.
Keep your Twitter account notifications on for energy
and gmi if you do uh get uh the 100 usdc um um remember to just pin it in the comment section
um of that post of our twitter post whenever we make the announcement
so what we do is we basically announce the post
and we pin it on the top.
This time, Gabby, you were able to see it, right?
It's on the top.
And all you had to do is just comment on top there.
All right.
And a lot of people did that.
I don't know.
We have some problem with Sulozaki.
Yeah, he dropped a little early, so I'm not sure.
And I know I can't pull him up.
I'm not the co-host.
Oh, no.
And I can't play music.
It's like I don't even have the equipment to play.
Oh, no.
Are you able to pull him up maybe under the energy account from that one? I know sometimes space is spacing.
So we'll see everybody back on June 22nd.
Let's just end it. We'll have more time for music next. Let me see if I can
Mark if you're playing something, we can't hear you.
Mark, if you're playing something, we can't hear you.
Mark, if you're playing something, we can't hear you.
Mark, if you're playing something, we can't hear you. Mark, I think Sulu Zaki I've added you. All right.
I think Sulu Zaki have added you.
I can still see him as listener.
He's not able to come up.
He gave us a thumbs down mark.
Mark, are you there?
Did I lose you, Mark?
Oh, my goodness.
Technical difficulties.
Please excuse us.
Please excuse this public service announcement. I'm just joking.
Yeah, X is not letting me in, Gabby.
I don't know.
I said I sent the request to Sulezaki, but it's not working.
So, all right. Well, see you guys next week.
Next to next week. Thank you. Thank you, Gabby.
Thank you. Mark, are you there? you
you Oh, I just ain't gonna sleep Cause it feels like I'm falling for you
It's getting way too deep
Oh, I can't sleep right on your mind
I can't sleep right on your mind
I can't sleep right on your mind
I can't sleep right on your mind
I can't sleep right on your mind We got a real jam going down.
Welcome to the Space Jam
Here's your chance, do your dance
At the Space Jam
Alright
Come on and slam
And welcome to the jam
Come on and slam
You wanna jam Come on and slay, and welcome to the chair. Come on and slay, you're gonna tell.
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