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10N giveaway - Women in NEAR w.She is NEAR
Recorded: Nov. 16, 2023 Duration: 1:08:01Space Recording
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Hey, Wax.
Hey, Sarah, how are you?
How are you?
Yeah.
I'm doing great.
Awesome.
Can we give Clara and Gemini speaking rights if they can?
I think Clara is in a noisy place, but Gemini is part of, they're both part of Ina Dao.
If they request it.
Gemini.
Yeah.
Just, I'm sorry, I have someone literally, like, calling me right now and the space keeps
flagging because of that.
But, yeah, her is part of She's Near.
Just request to speak and I'll bring you up.
Yeah.
We also have She's Near account here.
Awesome.
Hopefully we can get it up as well.
I see Gemini sent you invite to speak.
And, Sarah, who else you said? Clara?
Clara, yeah.
She's in a noisy place, but she may join us.
Perfect.
Clara, I've sent her in right as well.
Hello.
Hello.
Okay, I think we got everyone up.
Also, Crick, if she wants to.
Yeah, we got Clarke.
Clarke.
I also brought Amber.
She's our women in the air from Chill and Chill.
Awesome.
So we have local representation as well.
Okay, then let's get started.
So, first of all, thanks everyone for joining.
And I just pinned up the link for this Twitter space, the post.
So I'm going to ask everyone to like, retweet, tag friends, please, as well as we have 10 near giveaway today.
So I think we'll do like two winners, five near each.
So make sure also, if you want to participate in that, that you interact with the post, call your friends, call your, I don't know, coworkers, tell everybody the space is live.
So today we have, she is near.
Actually, Sarah, quick question.
Is the women in near Telegram chat and she's near Twitter?
Is it the same group of people?
It's not, but hopefully it will become.
But no, no, no.
She is near is a new Dao.
And then Ina Dao, which is Clara and Gemini is a, an amazing women, women's collective of artists from around the world.
And she is near is a new grassroots staff.
Perfect.
So before we get into all these different Dao's and what they do, it'd be great to do a round of introductions to see who we have here to introduce our speakers to the community.
So Sarah, would you want to start with yourself?
Sure.
So my name is Sarah and I've been in the near ecosystem for about a year.
Um, I was part of the beginnings of the NDC on the communication side, but I come from, I'm from New York.
Originally I live in San Francisco.
And, um, my focus is, uh, a good dozen umpty ump years as both a writer and a producer, um, in, uh, art and technology.
But I also did a long stint, uh, in communications in Silicon Valley where I worked at Netflix and I helped to launch Google Earth, et cetera, et cetera.
So my, my reason for being here is that I'm part of, uh, she is near, which is a new collective, which is looking to create a grassroots Dao for women projects, uh, on near, but also cross platform.
Um, and we aim to work collectively with, uh, a ton of women, hopefully from around the world and want to amplify and make, uh, a little bit more structure in partnerships, education, uh, bringing in more investment for women, but also creating a place where women can network and, um, uh, create some change.
We're hoping, uh, on this, uh, near platform.
Thanks.
You also gave us a brief introduction of she is near.
Thank you for that as well.
So, um, let's move to our next speaker.
Uh, Gemini, would you like to give a little background about yourself?
Yes.
Um, I'm Gemini rising, uh, or Krista.
Um, I have been in the near ecosystem.
I've been in the near ecosystem system since 2020, I guess, whenever it started.
Um, I started off, um, following, um, mint base, which had their platform on Ethereum.
And then they moved to near.
I read the white paper and stuff and I found it very interesting.
Um, I am not the founder of in a doubt, but I am one of the first council members.
Um, Tabea and a group of people from Portugal founded it, but kind of just set it up and left
it to me and a bunch of other people.
Um, now we have three council members.
We've been switching around.
Clara is my co-council member.
Um, and we are focused on women creating on the near ecosystem.
Um, it is a women only group.
Um, uh, but we do accept people who identify as women and we have, um, bi monthly contests
where people can make art.
We also present, um, things like, uh, art history series, uh, which focuses on female artists.
Um, and, um, yeah, personally, my background, uh, I, um, went to OCAD in Toronto, uh, quite
a long time ago.
I was started off making video art, uh, in the eighties.
And then I ended up working because I, um, knew how to edit on.
Um, I was one of the first people who had learned how to, uh, do nonlinear editing.
And I started working in documentary film.
And then I ended up, um, directing documentary films and producing my own films.
Um, and now I sort of, uh, uh, came back to making my own art and then getting involved
in this female, uh, community.
And we've had some ups and downs as we're learning how to, um, do things.
And, uh, yeah, that's basically all I have to say.
Thanks.
Thanks for the great intro.
Um, Clara, we know you're in a noisy place, but do you want to also try to give a quick
introduction about yourself?
Hey, hey.
Well, is it too loud?
Actually, we can hear you very well.
Oh, nice.
Cause I have a fan right on top of me cause I'm Brazil and that is very hot.
So my name is Clara Coppi.
I'm a multi-artist and metaverse builder.
And I work with 3D also.
I'm from Brazil, Rio de Janeiro.
I've been a council on in a doubt for about one year and a half, one years, almost two.
Well, next, next year, actually two, one and a half.
And we've been building this project as Krista says, like the art history show and art residencies for female artists and everything we can do to help people on board women and bridge the gap.
So more women can come and join us.
We are part of the umbrella of the creative style.
And now we're also starting to collaborate with she's near that is a brand new project that seems very interesting.
Very cool.
It will be very nice to have more representation on year for women.
And yeah, I also work as a producer and artist, but mostly I've been working as a council for in the doubt.
Okay, and do we have also someone behind she's near account or it's just there for the main account to be there?
I think it's just so we can have it there.
Oh, who's there?
Yeah, good evening. This is Debbie.
I am coming to represent. She's near. Yeah. Good evening, everyone.
Hey, Debbie. Long time no see. Glad to have you here again.
Do you also want to give a quick intro about yourself?
Okay, my name is Debbie.
I've been in the ecosystem for, it's been two years now.
Yeah, two years.
So, been part of so many projects.
And I'm glad to be one of the members of the she's near Dow.
And we hope to achieve great for the ecosystem.
Okay, thanks everyone.
And as well as today, we're also going to have our co-host, Amber.
Amber, you want to say hi as well?
Amber, you want to say hi as well?
Yeah, hello.
Am I audible?
Yes, yes.
All right.
I'm Amber, and I'm glad to be part of you.
So, I'm also a co-host with Swax today.
So, I'm actually glad to hear from you guys.
I'm really happy to know this project she is near.
I'm looking forward to know more about you.
It's glad to see you guys.
Perfect.
Thanks.
Okay, guys.
Let's jump into that.
So, we have a whole lot of speakers today.
I guess I'll just ask questions and whoever wants to pick it up can pick it up.
And Sarah, I know you already talked on it a little bit, but maybe we can dive deeper on what is the mission, what is the vision of She is Near, what was the reason for founding it, and the fundamental things you guys are working on and trying to achieve.
Whoever wants to pick this up.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Absolutely.
I'd be more than happy to.
So, She is Near really came out of looking at the election.
During the elections for the NDC, there was a bunch of us that were just, and really we're talking about almost 47 people that, women who had been talking and some that identifies women.
While the election was happening, we were really acutely aware of the fact that there weren't many women running.
We were wondering why.
You know, what is it that was holding people back from running for election?
And then once the elections happened, we saw that maybe one or two women were elected, and that's fine.
But it was really interesting to see how we were responding to that, right?
And how other people were responding to that.
We were responding to it internally, looking at it and saying, hmm, is this indicative of something much wider globally that's happening, where women are finding it hard to get their voices and their policies, their ideas, their objectives met?
And then another thing that happened was we saw that there was a lot of tension between what we thought wasn't going to be a tense environment on the blockchain between a lot of men and women, a lot of men feeling really uncomfortable around women wanting to be represented.
I think some of that's like theoretical in that the blockchain is supposed to be anonymous, and it's supposed to be a place where you can transcend all of those ideas.
But for women globally, it's still a reality, and it's still really challenging to be working in collaboration with men in a way that feels healthy.
So part of what we're doing is we want to encourage networking.
We want to develop a way for us to network.
And one of the trends that we also notice is that it's sort of like there's protocol level networking, right?
And then there's grassroots level networking.
And that has a lot of class stuff going on, right?
That has a lot of, it's fraught with a lot of problems that, you know, if you're invested in by millions of dollars, then you're legitimate.
If you're not in that sort of what the NDC movement is all about is that grassroots level people who are developers, who are builders, who are workers, you know, that they're relevant to.
So the thinking around she is near is to address some of that is to have networking that people can feel they're they're moving in directions professionally that make them feel happy, but also creating community.
We also want to create a secure environment because there has been a lot of hostility towards women.
And we can talk about that later.
And also, we want to create a grassroots Dow where we are functionally being an investor in women led environmental or women led projects.
OK, so it's really three goals.
And actually, if you if you talk to most of the Dow is they all want this, right?
Right. I mean, everybody wants good networking.
Everybody wants a place that everyone feels safe in and everybody wants good investment.
But women in particular find it hard on near to grow, probably find it hard to grow in the world in general.
And so we're really trying to put ourselves forward in a way where we can collaborate with other women led Dow's where we're working with men.
No problem with men, you know, men are great. But it is also a fact that especially now in these tough market conditions that we want to plan for a positive future.
Right. We want to take the time to get our ducks in a row.
Think about partnerships well and apply for V1 funding where we're really getting a substantial amount of money and we can support women in the ecosystem.
Now, there are three differentiators probably for she is now.
One is that we have a really, really strong marketing team within the group.
Lex is part of the group and she created all of the branding for the NDC.
But we also have people who women who've been involved in ecosystem wide projects for a really long time.
So we're really hoping that that's going to be differentiator for us, that we can market, amplify, that we can guide women through the process and connect them with developers, which is really key.
So that's sort of our that's our thinking wax right now.
We're working as fast as we can.
And, you know, relationships with in a doubt relationships with Mutitao relationships with everyone around the world is really key.
And that's that's the starting place that where we're coming from.
OK, thank you for that input. That's very interesting.
You know, you mentioned, right, it all started with the election and Web3, like sometimes it's hard for women to grow.
Could you talk a little bit more about this?
Because I've also was under the impression sort of how you mentioned that Web3, especially being like semi anonymous most of the time, most people are pretty indifferent to, you know, things like that cause problems in like real world, like race, gender, all that stuff that is being so like problematic.
But do you feel like in Web3 women also face a lot of problems and specifically in near what do you feel like those problems are?
Sure, I'll speak to that, but I also would love to have other other people speak to it in their experience.
I think the key word you use there was indifferent.
And I think that for a guy is being indifferent to something may mean one thing, whereas for women, it means something else, particularly for women of color, but also women.
In general, the idea that we are not that we're either, quote unquote, colorblind or that we are gender blind.
It's a nice idea, but it's not very honest.
Right.
And it's generally not very true.
We we can't help but have biases.
We're human beings in the world with, you know, a fraught history.
We have realities of history, right?
History is real.
As much as we'd like to believe that we can change things because we want to.
That doesn't change history.
Right.
So women in the world and particularly right now face a lot of really difficult things.
One is blowback from making real strong strides in the world.
And the world politically, as you know, is moving through some pretty fierce left and right ideas, which are showing up as dictatorial governments.
Right.
Right.
Ideas that are very black and white, very binary, good, bad.
Women should do this or not do that.
Right.
That's just a reality that's happening in the world.
And it flows through different cultures around the world in different ways.
It shows up in near in very subtle ways where women are given roles that are generally supportive to men, but not in key leadership positions where women who women are given advice and sort of explained to about how to move forward with a project.
Whereas men might actually receive a small grant.
So those little things may seem like not much, but when they add up, you realize that you are, you know, 20 leagues behind a guy who may have a project that's at an equal place as you.
The other thing that women face is real aggression in social media.
So when you come forward and you want to talk about a potential problem, you can get explained in a pretty aggressive way, which for a guy might be like, whatever, I'm just arguing with you.
But for women, when you're dealing with it every single day and you're getting turned down because of very abstract reasons.
Right. Like you don't understand this.
Well, how do you know I don't understand this?
So you're not going to invest in that or you need to show that you can do this.
So we need to see you not be invested in and just work really hard, but not receive funding so we can see that you know what you're doing.
Why? Why me?
You know, me personally, I've been working in Silicon Valley for 20 years.
I'm pretty sure that I know what I'm doing.
So the question is, what is where is that coming from?
And if it's just a habit, well, let's change that habit.
Right. But if it's a deep seated, real belief that women are inferior or that women do not provide anything to the protocol, that's a deep, deeper problem.
And let me just end by saying that there's a really, really I'm going to share it with wax.
It'd be great if you could share it with it afterwards.
This incredible research comes out of Harvard Business School, which is about the fact that when you have more women in a business, it is 50 percent more likely to succeed than not.
And the reason why is that women bring listening skills that are profound and women also bring listening skills to the blockchain that's really important since we're supposed to be collaborative.
Right. Women bring a lot to this.
So the the statistics are on women's side to work collaboratively with men.
But we get beaten down on the what we some might call a micro aggression.
I just call it a bad habit.
But in the bigger picture, when we are beaten up and told that we are not really relevant to growth, that's a problem.
And we need to look at that problem and we need to shift it.
Thanks. I see Joy raised her hand.
So I want to pass the mic to Joy, to Amber.
Yeah, thank you for that.
You spoke about women being inferior.
Yeah.
I think inferiority sets in when women don't understand who they are, what they can do and their ability to do some things.
So I want to ask that for this year, like, how do you, okay, for women that are not aware about Web3 and all sorts,
what are the ways you can get them involved?
How do you think you can, you can enlighten them, you can bring them in and make them feel accepted?
That's my question. Thank you.
Well, I think it's a, how do, how are we doing on that in general?
Question.
How is near doing in general, making people feel accepted across the board, right?
How are we doing making people who feel different, who are looking to find other ways to exist in the world besides corporate or besides, you know, feeling like there's no future?
How are we doing as that?
Is that something that we're all thinking about?
It's an important question, right?
In terms of women, I think that women aren't like anything.
They're not just one thing, right?
There are women who are interested in art.
There are women who are developers.
There are women who are businesswomen.
There are women who are investors.
All of those people working in the world have different needs and have different agendas, right?
So part of what we're thinking about is education in general, and that's something that we want to work on collaboratively with organizations and other DAOs.
How can we, what kind of education do people need?
Is it more hackathons or is it more meetings in life?
Is it what ENADAO does, which is really empower and get funds into the hands of artists and media makers or not?
So I think, Amber, the question is, how are we going to move past just trying to get people's KPIs set and think about them as human beings, right?
So that's one of the big questions that we have, and I think it would be great to work with you about that.
I am actually really interested in what Gemini and Clara think about this idea.
First, you know, what the experience of negativity is like and how it can hold people back and what they're doing to bring women in.
I think that would be really valuable.
Yeah, guys, it would be great to hear more from everyone on the panel, as well as feel free to raise your hand any moment.
Like, even if there is no question, you just want to contribute something and we'll move to you.
So yeah, if anybody wants to add to what Sarah said.
Hi, I'm sorry, I can't figure out how to raise my hand.
So I just kind of butted in there.
I just wanted to speak to what Sarah just said and talk about some of the difficulties we have had as a female Dao.
We started off, you know, trying to figure out what to do to get more women involved in in our Dao.
And we decided we would have these art contests where we would have, you know, a theme and then we would send out a call and say, you know, we're going to have this gallery show and everybody who enters the art contest is going to be in the gallery show.
But we will have, you know, a first, second, third place and we will vote on it.
And we left the voting.
We got a lot of people on Sputnik down and we left the voting up to the community.
And then we found out that people were cheating.
Where they were, you know, it started off, they were like trying to get, you know, there was a group of them who were all friends and they were all voting for each other.
And so we ended up making some rules about that.
And so the next one, we found out that some of the people who said they were women were actually men.
So we had to make some new rules about that and, you know, and try to get people to, you know, like, you know, prove that, you know, it's really annoying to have to get somebody, people to prove that you are a woman or identify as a woman instead of just thinking that everybody's going to be honest, which obviously they're not.
But the last, you know, contest we had, we found out there, there was a man who had like 20 different accounts.
And, you know, when we went through our stuff, he was like, you know, winning all this money.
And it was a guy.
So then we decided, you know, we have to like even get, you know, we tried to get people to do the I am human thing.
And for this next show that we just had, because we were trying to get people to do all of that, we had basically no entries.
So now we're trying to figure out what to do, because it's pretty complicated to ask people to, you know, do the I, you know, I did the I am human thing.
And I had a really hard time and I'm, I'm pretty tech savvy.
I mean, I've been doing technical things before there was, you know, computer, you know, like linear editing and stuff like that.
So I've been around in terms of the technical thing.
And that was difficult for me just to fill in that I am human thing.
And then we were asking people to, you know, take a picture of themselves or video of themselves holding their ID.
And all of these things kind of just put people off.
And we don't really want to do these things.
But because of this cheating, you know, we're still trying to figure out what we're going to do.
You know, we're thinking of trying to create some kind of adapt that would be easy for somebody just to submit their stuff and prove that they are a woman, which is totally ridiculous.
I mean, I've never experienced this, like, you know, like, like Sarah said, you know, women have been sidelined, you know, they get paid less than men and a lot of things.
And now we've, like, created this thing that's for women.
And we've got these men coming in pretending to be women.
And it's just mind boggling.
I never thought this would happen.
And now we're spending all our time trying to figure that out instead of, like, encouraging people to make art.
So I'm finding it pretty annoying.
Yeah, you know, I've had to deal with that too a little bit sometimes when we do giveaways on the space.
And, you know, not everyone who actually comes up to ask a question is, like, involved in the conversation.
There are people who just, like, hunt the giveaways on the spaces.
And a lot of times, like, a guy would put a picture of, like, a good-looking girl.
So he gets picked.
And then it's, like, a guy who wasn't even listening and just asked some random questions.
So, yeah, that definitely happens.
Amber, do you want to say something?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know if I'm right.
Jame, right?
Is it Jame or Jamey?
I don't know.
I don't know how to pronounce the name.
But she spoke the right thing.
Because I do see some people doing that.
These guys need to be women, but they are not.
I don't know.
I would actually encourage if you can introduce I am a human guide before joining She Is Ne.
It would be nice.
So my next question is, do you allow women from other blockchains for support and partnership?
Or is it majorly women in Nier?
That's my question.
Are you talking about She Is Ne?
She Is Ne's goal is to be cross-platform so that it'll be developed here in Nier.
It'll attract investors, developers, women, marketers, artists to leverage the best of Nier, right?
But to focus on those cross-platform relationships within F, within Polygon, within all of them.
Because if you look, and I see there are a lot of people whose hands are raised, but you can take a look at the women in Web3 groups on Telegram.
And they're really powerful.
There are women who are getting massive amounts of funding, and there are also women in those groups who are developers, who are marketers, who are builders, who are media makers, who are also part of those groups.
So this conversation of women's relevance, it's kind of just a near thing from what I can tell.
And I think it'd be really interesting to hear some of the other people who have their hands raised and hear what their questions are.
And who are you referring to as people who have their hands raised?
I see other people with hands raised below.
Paul had his hand raised.
Oh, you mean like people who send emojis?
I think they're raising their hands.
Yeah, well, sure, if you want.
Usually we bring up the community questions sort of more towards the end.
Oh, no, never mind.
Sorry, Wax, it's your show.
I don't want to...
No, but actually...
No, no, no, whatever you want.
I think Clara might have something to say.
But did we answer your question?
Was that...
Do you feel like you've had a well-rounded answer about this issue around the challenges, or do you need more insights?
Yeah, I mean, I think you answered it in the way that it is for you.
So whatever the answer, I guess, gives to me is always the right answer, in a way.
But yeah, we will bring up people who have requested to come up for sure.
Maybe a little more towards the end.
But yeah, we already dove into She is Near, a collective DAO.
And I would like also to learn more about in a DAO.
So I think whoever we have here representing in a DAO out of our speakers, if you can give us maybe an overview, what does it was like the background of in a DAO?
What does it do, what does it do, its mission, and what is it trying to achieve?
Clara, can you speak to that?
Maybe Clara has some technical difficulties.
Well, that's fine, then we can bring some maybe people from the audience, and hear the questions that there are.
Let me see, give me one second, bring them up.
Oh, hey.
Sorry, I was having some trouble because my phone was weird.
And I'm not listening very well, so I didn't get the question, because I'm right by the fan, so I really can't hear well.
Okay, well, the question was just about if you can talk a little bit about in a DAO, its backstory, what are you guys working on, what are you trying to achieve, anything else relevant?
So, I'm actually already.
Clara, were you able to?
Yeah, my phone is behaving weird, sorry.
So, on in a DAO, we are dedicated to supporting female artists, so we create these projects like, every two months, we have these themes,
so the artists can create some art on the last two proposals we had workshops so we invited
women artists to create a workshop based on what they know how to do like we had an ai dedicated
workshop so the people could create accordingly to to the theme that was related to nature and
women in nature this time we have these workshops one is by paloma that is here she is talking
about afro afro-descendant people and female people non-binary people lgbtqi people and
making this connection and she's presenting her workshop talking about several artists
that are from this from this group and also latins and we have another workshop created
by alisa she's she's an artist that is dedicated to vr she creates paintings and immersive experience
in virtual reality so she also gave a workshop last week and we'll make it make these workshops
available for everyone that wants to watch it to create a piece of art to participate in the art
contest that will happen this month on the end of this month you can check our twitter for the exact
dates because i'm really my brain is overheating and i just escaped my mind and our twitter is
dalina i've put also on telegram on the messages dal underscore ina and yeah we have these workshops and
and we'll have the art contest with prizes for the three first selected people and everybody that
that participates will be will participate on our gallery show where on the metaverse we have
two galleries one is on crypto voxels and the other one is on near hub there's a metaverse that is part
of the near ecosystem so these people will be featured and everybody will make their arts on mint base
that also we have a store there that we use always and we also have the project for art history education
focused on women to highlight women that were weren't very they're very they aren't very well known
uh throughout history we have this how do i say this is not erasement it is a weird word to say but
english is not english is not my first language so i don't know how to say this like women wasn't
were very featured uh on art history talks and on the colleges so we are doing this featuring all these
great women from the artist world and tying i'm sorry i'm talking too much but tying this art history
project that we have we are looking for a female developer for near so we're looking for a female
developer that knows how to use um is rust a breast yes to create a dap that uses ai and also makes the
connection with this videos for the art history that we created thank you so much for that uh we're gonna
move to the community questions in a couple seconds i just wanted to ask one last thing again to
whoever wants to pick this up but i've noticed that both of your daos are mostly about art uh creatives
and things of that nature and uh sorry you also mentioned that uh one of the goals was to connect
women in your dao with developers which uh sort of i'm assuming implies that within your dao there is not
that many developers at the current moment and uh would you say that there is a wider problem where
uh not enough women for some reason are learning to be developers or are involved in the you know in
this technical field um thank you for that now actually uh she is near is not focused totally on
creatives we're focused on on cross-platform projects uh and i think that very often you'll find
that women are moving back and forth between media you've even heard uh gemini and um and clara both
said i'm an artist but i'm also a producer and i'm a producer as well very often there are a lot of women
in media production roles um that's just been a place where we've thrived i don't necessarily believe
that there are fewer developers i mean if you look at right now if you look at the ndc uh jane is one of
the primary technical leads that helped moved everything through and she's brilliant um i think
that you also will see that there are women developers they're just they're just not necessarily
choosing to come to near and i think that that's a that's something to look at right um there are a lot
of women that are developing uh in entertainment there are a lot of women that are developing a
polygon in the gaming space um because those are extremely collaborative spaces particularly
entertainment that is you know that's a 2.2 trillion dollar economy right i mean the creative
economy is a 2.2 trillion dollar economy let's just say that that's a known fact and that economy women
are usually more um engaged in because it's more collaborative um i think that the more block and
tackle um developer community that i've seen in near is sort of like they like to fight you know a lot
of it's politics and they like to fight women aren't particularly interested in fighting they're
interested in doing and getting things done so that's just a general kind of thing i mean you know
guys like to fight that's just kind of a guy thing um so we're not looking at just art and there's
nothing wrong with looking at art um but we're looking at wider projects and i think wax that there
are a lot of women developers they're just they're just not on near so the question is why question is
can we make a space for them the question is can we attract investors women investors investing
enormous amounts of money into the blockchain are led by women out of san francisco um and what are
we going to do how can we as a community of women now think about this and how can we attract them
how can we keep them and how can we support the women who are already like sticking it out and battling
it through here you know that's a very interesting you have that perspective because well there's
definitely a lot of women developers but at the same time i've heard from a lot of uh women one of
my friends she's like organizing also like female focus hackathon and stuff that uh you know women are
very underrepresented in this space that there needs to be more effort towards uh you know onboarding
women developers and all this stuff but i guess everybody has it's not it's not no no i mean my
perspective is that there are women developers there are lots of women developers there you know
there are women getting computer science degrees all over the world it's about attracting them to
environments and a lot of them you know i'm going to use the the catchphrase that's not a fair phrase
to use on all the men in in the in the blockchain but the crypto bro thing and ftx does not help
um a lot of women just see it as like oh man do i really have to go into that environment
and they're choosing not to right they're choosing not to get involved with blockchain
because they've heard from the grapevine and from other women that the guys in the blockchain
like to fight and women are not interested in fighting women are interested in general like women
can be tough women can be awful women can be jerks just like men can be jerks it's not you know it's
not like women are better it's just in general it's so hard to be a woman in this space it's so hard to
be a woman in technology or art and tech or entertainment that really there's no time to
be ridiculous and to get into turf wars because the most important thing for women is getting the
job done so wax i hear you and i think it is true that there are women are underrepresented but it's a
little bit more complex than just there aren't enough of women developers and we're just not going
out to them they're not coming for a reason and that's one of the things that we're looking to
address but do you also think that maybe women in general are less interested in like that type
of work like being developers or no is it because there is like a barriers to entry for women
specifically i mean i live in san francisco and i know hundreds of women developers hundreds i mean
they're coming out of stanford they're coming out of lit they're coming out of the uc system they're
coming out of they're all over the world and there are women with computer science degrees on near who
just don't even talk about it i think that the issue is that we're in a moment of flux who where
women are really looking very seriously and saying is there a place for me here is there going to be
investment into investing in women in a smart way am i why is there so much fraught why is it so fraught
why is it so tense and i and i think that um no i think there are women all over the world now
are there as many as men no because they didn't have a running start right but will they i think so
i think so great um i see we have a couple more hands raised uh joy gemini guys feel free to jump in
or thank you um thank you sarah um clara clara spoke about iron female developers how can we get the
links for for the application like how do we get um the link to apply for the job thank you i actually sent the
proposal to um sarah uh we had put up an announcement um this is what like we we created this proposal of like what we
wanted to do and none of us like at the time it was just me and clara um neither one of us are um
developers i don't know how to code sarah does clara doesn't know how to code um so you know we have
these ideas but we needed help and so i i think we wrote this thing about like five months ago and we
posted it um on the near forum and then we actually posted it in the developers thing and nobody
absolutely nobody got back to us and then one day i saw um somebody posting that they were a
developer and and they knew how to use rust and stuff so i contacted him and he was interested but
then we started thinking you know if we could find a woman developer and then the new uh council
member cecile um she had a friend who was a developer so we talked to her but she didn't
know how to use rust so we're still sort of in this limbo of of like not even getting started with this
thing um and we you know like i'm really glad we met sarah and sarah you know said that you know
maybe she could help us um find a developer which would be great um so we have i i i can um i don't
even know how to do this on here i'm sorry um it's clara if you could um maybe put the link to
to the proposal um i don't know how like i'm very rarely on um twitter or x uh and i know i should be
more but um uh we can give you the link somehow um i'm hoping that clara can find it and post it on
here because i can't even figure out how to raise my hand okay all right thank you so yeah we have
been looking for quite a while um you know we're now also thinking about getting a developer to help
us make something um that can onboard people that are women and that or identify as women that could
actually prove it but we haven't actually written a proposal for it it's just a thought at the moment
so yes anybody like we would prefer because we are a female doubt we would prefer a female developer
um but at this point um we're pretty open to having anybody who who knows how to do this um and
actually you know we can find funding for it and stuff like that so um if you know anybody if you're
interested if you know any women that would be wonderful and like i said um clara's going to give
you the the link to the proposal and um or if you want to talk to sarah about it um that would be great
too thank you thank you so i think this is a great time that uh we move to some questions from the
community people have been waiting for whole 50 minutes so we want to honor that as well and uh
let's take a question from paul d great all right can everybody hear me yes can hear you very well
all right i took a question at the under the comment section i asked that which qualities do you think
we can improve on to bring newbies understand and expand the near ecosystem so i just want to ask
which qualities can women are trying to improve on to bring in newbies and expand the ecosystem yeah
thank you was the question new business
sorry was your question what is the new business that we're going to bring into the ecosystem
yeah like the qualities that that's we make actually improve on like
generally to bring in newbies and expand the near ecosystem yeah business wise and stuff like that
yeah sure sure he meant sorry uh clara he was saying um um new new members like introducing new members
newbies that's what he means yeah okay yeah yeah newbies like new members yeah sorry newbies oh newbies oh
yeah well um got it so currently right now obviously we're we're in a market
slump right so the market's going to pick up hopefully in the next six to eight months
newbies uh new women i think that that's the larger discussion right which is it isn't if i were to say to you
like how are you going to get new business in your dao you would probably ask me well what kind of
people are you talking about are you talking about developers are you talking about investors are you
talking about uh creative members are you talking about people who you know who want to learn so when
you have to look at a any kind of market you have to segment it and you have to understand who it is
that is you're going to attract right um currently there are brilliant women working all over the
world on lots of different protocols there are a there's a lot of activity in the fashion and
entertainment space on chain uh there's a lot of women that work in that a lot of men in that too
right i think the question is what is near bringing to projects so you have to look at what is on the
protocol level what are the really large projects that boss is going to attract right and so what
are those large projects needing right now do they need boss do they need cross-platform technology like
boss great we're going to go after those people do we need people who we think are going to be great
developers for projects like in a dao or projects like anyone else we're going to go after that so the the
qualities i think that you have to have when you go for new newbies new people new energy is to
understand what your own protocol can bring and that's a myriad of things right i think that the
ndc is new we're seeing whether or not decentralization is going to work for people but decentralization
certainly works at the protocol level so one of the things that we're going to do for our group for
she is near is we have a partnership team that we're building and we'd love to have more women
who have partnership experience join us we have a group that's just going to do education they're
going to focus on that okay and so we're going to look at this from a segmented perspective and try
to understand what exactly could near bring to them like you would any business objective right and
we're going to go after them and we're going to start talking with them we're going to start
onboarding them just like anyone else would in any other group i hope that answers the question
yeah yeah thank you very much yes basically for everything thanks
thank you so much for the question and let's take another question from
ujunwa hello good evening everyone
um yeah so my question is um what other opportunities what other opportunities does
um women have in the near ecosystem like better opportunities sorry like what better opportunities
those women have in the near ecosystem
i think that right now i'd love to hear what some other people think about this maybe crick you can
speak to this because you know you're here and you're helping to develop uh the nft work group
um and there's some great women that are in that and obviously you're a woman i think the question is
what is it you want to do like it it's it the the blockchain isn't is an opportunity for everybody
and it's a matter of networking and you know doing and getting things done so you can develop trust
what are the things that you're really passionate about and you have a skill set for
and who can you reach out to and that's hard it's hard to reach out and it's also for women that come
from cultures where you're called pushy where you're called bitchy where you're called bossy
it's really tough when you're in the blockchain because the guys are really pushy the guys are
really bossy right but women aren't supposed to be so i think the question is what's in what's
what do you have in your in your heart and in your skill set where you want to make a difference
right i think that there are um it's changing i think that the ndc is going to maybe we'll change
some things we'll we'll watch and see right but what is it that we want to do and we want to build
together i think there are a lot of opportunities for women obviously they can join our group and
they can join she is near they can join ina they can join mooty they can join a whole bunch of other
groups that would be a great first step um i think that it's also really important to watch and see
what's happening on the forum i think it's also really important to be on x and follow wax and
follow people that are talking about actual projects and getting involved with actual projects and making
a difference because at the end of the day the only thing that we really have for our reputation is
whether or not we can get things done and sometimes it is hard to get things done and sometimes we try
things and they fail but you have to come back and try again and that's also the fun part about
blockchain is you're not working at a corporation you can't get fired uh it's permissionless and you
can try again you know you can try again and that's what's really important i hope that answers the
question okay yeah yeah quite quite answer my question okay thank you for your question
um and i noticed we also have paloma with us here right now uh paloma i know you didn't get to speak
would you like to maybe give a quick intro of yourself for what you're doing uh right now
now that you're here with us
well i guess not uh either way then we are running up on the hour we've been live for
58 minutes almost an hour by the time we finish it will be a full hour uh another thing i wanted to
say actually is if uh there are any projects coming out from she's nia or inadao or anyone you guys want
to bring any female that project that you want to give more exposure to uh feel free to bring them
on chill and chill always available this platform is for everyone on near to come and chill and chill and
uh do whatever else they want so tara i'll make sure i think this space right we booked through
jungle so i'll make sure to send you the booking link so you have it directly with you
of course uh other than that i don't think i have any updates from me for today except the guys the ndc
budget voting has opened uh so make sure you go there and uh vote for it support it or well if
you don't support it don't support hopefully you do uh there's a link in my profile you can find
let me actually pin it up here we also just created an educational video for the voting so if you're
confused about something i just pinned it up there is a whole video step by step instruction how to go
there connect your wallet what to click with live demonstration so hopefully that clarifies any
questions for everyone and uh yeah i think that's all from me sarah clara gemini anything that you would
like to tell to our community before we wrap up the space uh debbie as well feel free this is the time to do it
um any last goodbyes yeah i would just so go ahead go ahead i i was just going to say that um once our
workshop hosts post their videos um on our youtube channel and you can watch them you can enter our
contest um and we have um three prizes so it's it's quite a lot it's usdc and i think the first prize is
250 um but you will no matter what you will be in our uh gallery show um uh join our telegram group
and you will be updated on that um again may i ask you clara to um post that link to our telegram group
uh if possible um because we do have this uh contest coming up so if you are an artist and you are female or
female identifying um we would love to have you um all you have to do is watch one of the videos
that will we will be posting thank you thank you everybody for coming and and listening to what we
have to say i just want to add just keep an eye on this space right uh i think that women are
underestimated a lot in the world and underestimated in tech i think the blockchain is a place for women to
really show their ability to collaborate in ways that are mind-blowing and i think that this group
is hopefully going to show some impact uh we need to focus on the projects on mirror not just talking
about what we need and i think that everything that we can do to support women who want to show they
can get the work done we are here 100 so thanks wax and thanks for your support this came at a really important
time and we will certainly share everything that we're doing moving forward thanks thank you um one
last thing i want to add is for for the people asking about our telegram handle we actually experienced
um an outage on our telegram recently but we are uh on our way to rectify that and then everyone will be
notified when uh new telegram is open active thank you everyone i think that um that uh paloma just
texted me that she's up and running wax i think she just wants to say her last words if she could
yeah i think i just brought her up again she dropped for some reason but paloma
you're a speaker now so feel free to unmute yourself oh hello hi i'm really sorry i i will can you hear me
yes oh great um i'm really sorry i wasn't i was just um having um you know issues um right i hope
there's enough time for for a quick question um i'm very excited about um uh she's near and um you know
um because um because um i'm i'm new to the space actually um um i i joined near in in july also i've
been on the blockchain for a while with my own dow and um i've had a a great experience with in a dow
as well and as you know i'm also giving uh one of the workshops i i have a question and is okay well
um in the community really should be backing these projects i mean if we want more women in the
community surely it's not just us uh women and um so i was wondering if you had thought of applying for
funding um to be able to do some of the um to to to um achieve some of the objectives um that um we are
talking about uh about she is near and also great and also very quickly just to say that you know um i'm
a woman i identify as as um as female um my pronouns are she um but i'm also a part of the lgbtqi plus
community and and i don't see well uh how what should i see the world as binary and i really believe
that um you know we have to include i know that in in in in the projects from in a dow you said you know
people who identify as female as well or uh non-binary people that want to explore um the the feminine
side if they believe you know in the in the world so i think that you know it is true that um it's
important to use to use that inclusivity um you know as well so when when we say women and the feminine
you know let's not always go on to using traditional gender identities because we could
offer more holistic representation of the diversity within our community and um you know it um some some
people who who want to explore that feminine side but don't um you know call themselves women i also
think you know they they would want to be on she's near so that was just my two cents thank you
to answer your question we're applying for grants at b for the v1 level um to the ndc directly um we
are we're currently working on our final charter proposal to them and we have we have a lot of work
to do it's gonna we're going to have a pretty moderate budget to begin with because we we need to do a lot
of heavy lifting on the partnerships and education side um we're lucky that we're going to have strong
brand probably right out of the gate but we it's going to take a it's going to take a little bit
of time loma and i think that for us yeah we're we're open to anyone who uh who is focused on their
woman you know being a woman however they define that i think though that as a cautionary statement that
um we're up against a lot in the world in terms of women being accepted to be part of teams
uh and we have we have a long road ahead of us i know that sounds kind of counterintuitive because
i think that most people on near the guys think that they're you know they're open-minded and they're
willing to work with everyone but if you just kind of look at where we're at right now that just
women aren't coming there are women developers wax you know there are women who do this and they're
choosing not to come here for a reason so we're looking at that pretty seriously why is it that that
women don't want to come and um whether they however they identify at the end of the day they
are not coming and and droves of women left in the last year and there are real reasons for that and
it's a real loss for the protocol because like i said the statistics are there that 50 of businesses
that have women uh do really really well so let's say it's it's hard and it's a it's a it hurts our hearts
right um and i think that we're gonna be in this year focusing on that and trying to understand why
so many women have left and why near is having such a hard time keeping women thank you
thank you that's a great closing statement and i think on that note um if everyone said everything
they wanted to say we can wrap this up i think that has been a great space just want to take a second to
thank everybody who came to listen everybody who asked questions everybody who has requested to ask
questions i know we most of the time unfortunately cannot bring everybody who requested up but at
least i tried to shuffle it up so if you weren't able to with i wasn't able to bring you up today i'll
try to bring you up on the next space instead and of course thanks to our amazing speakers in a
dow she is near make sure guys to follow these projects to follow our speakers and get involved
if this is something that you feel like is interesting to you something that aligns with you
this is an opportunity contribute uh maybe something will come back your way as well so uh yeah i think
uh in the end of the day this place full of opportunities so this is one of them and uh
yeah i think that's all for me thanks everyone for coming and we'll see you on the next space
bye guys goodbye guys thanks wax thanks bye
