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π± 222 Hour Space Late Night US Early Morning Asia Love
Recorded: Sept. 22, 2025 Duration: 4:05:37Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the latest trends, partnerships, and fundraising efforts shaping the industry. Key topics included the rise of decentralized finance, innovative token launches, and the increasing demand for skilled professionals in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Well, hello.
My name is Steve Stepp and I'm the head of thisweekendgear.com.
Available at thisweekendgear.com. I'm the head of thisweekincheer.com, available at thisweekincheer.com.
I'm one of the nicest guys in the world, officially in the top three.
Morning, guys.
Impressions on request should be a service.
Yeah, I've just woken up about 10 minutes ago, so I'm going to get into this thing,
get my morning
shot of heroin and then a cup of coffee and see how it goes uh loving this i was so energized
yesterday good god monkey zoo did it he injected me with a a shot of i don't even know what it was
whatever monkey zoo's taking i got a shot of it yesterday at his space. It was really impressive what he did.
He'd almost finished the project in an hour and a half, pretty much.
I mean, the work's not been done, but it kind of has.
He put it all out there, so I loved it.
And, yeah, just amazing to hear the spaces just constantly running.
It's like an Olympic relay torch conversation of hope.
Hey, where's my heroin? Thank you. Yeah, so what shall I talk about?
I walked into the last one and there was talk of conspiracies, globalists, bankers.
It was little old Edward Wright all along.
I hope not, but it's sounding like it might be the case. I guess I'm going no milk never mind
yeah any open forum as always if anyone wants to come up please do
all things are welcome to be discussed
i've invited a few people to the spaces i'm hosting i haven't followed up with uh setting
a time yet we've got mickey i think is going to come up by revolution draco pensulo is going to
come up one day we've got blacktron poor investor are going to come up one day I think there's rumors foods is gonna do a he
said a flood space I think it was Sunday night what day is it in America now oh
hold on a sec maybe that's taken place I'm getting confused or was it Monday
night I don't know what's 24 hours in and all youyou-can-listen festival. No idea.
So where will I start?
Is there such a thing as shapeshifting lizards?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
It's not impossible, but I've thought about it,
and there's no evidence that I can see.
Some people say they've seen a shapeshifting lizard, but I've done mushrooms before.
I've seen my own mom start shape-shifting.
I'm not going to start calling her a lizard.
That isn't going to go down well.
So I've not seen any evidence of shape-shifting lizards.
There is rumors there's something that lives underground.
That could be anything, though.
It could just be like, I don't know, an underground crab or something that comes up and makes weird noises.
But I have heard something personally weird before.
In Boggart Hole Clough.
If you want to look that one up at some point, Boggart, B-O-G-G-A-R-T, in Manchester.
I did mushrooms there once at university.
Probably the worst mistake I've ever made.
But me and four friends met something supernatural in sound.
And we ended up sprinting away.
So there's rumors that there's things that live underground,
but I can't link it to being shape-shifting lizards.
So I'm ruling that out until there's evidence.
But I think that that's a dehumanization
tactic from people over time. Although having said that, having said that, one of the things
I noticed living in Thailand is in traditional Thai schools in the morning, like around,
it's morning now here, it's like 10.30, say at 9am, I used to work
in a school, they do this weird finger dance in Thailand. And in fact, I was in Vietnam last week,
they do it there as well. It's like, I don't know if there's any finger dancers in the room, but
they do this weird sort of like bending the fingers back dance is what I'll say. So
though I don't know if there's like a school performance some of the teachers
females might do the traditional Thai dance and their fingers bend backwards
during the dance and I remember asking years ago what's the thing with the
finger thing because it's a bit of a weird thing. Of all the female body parts, you can swing around.
Fingers are not in the top three things that make the center of a dance.
Not on paper, anyway.
You've got breasts, ass, face, hips, all of these things.
Fingers are probably the last thing, I think, of making the center of a dance.
So anyway, I said, what's the thing with the finger dance? And they said it was, basically, they said it
was something that's been around for thousands of years. And then in recent times, I've been told
that this finger dance is something to do with some beings or something that used to live on the world years
ago and appears in different cultures, in different forms. It's like, nah. But then I've started to
notice in signs in Thailand, like coffee shops, car washes, say one in 20 businesses has a picture
of this weird creature with bent fingers and I sort of put the pieces
together and thought hold on a sec is this dance some sort of way of maintaining historical record
or a false historical record that's possible too because if a lie perpetuated is still a lie
so it's possible that you know can't be sure but in Vietnam as well in Cambodia as well
and then it turns out in Chile in Peru and other places there's this weird creature that is
depicted in different forms of history in terms of dancing and uh it links to the fingers bending
backwards it's kind of weird so shape-shifting lizards rule
the world? Nah. Bullshit. Is there sort of traditional dances all around the world
of some weird thing with weird fingers? Yes. So that's kind of as deep in the rabbit hole as I've
I've gone as far as listening to like crazy theories.
gone as far as listening to like crazy theories. I don't think the shape-shifting lizards,
I don't think the shape-shifting lizards.
I do think there's a secret elite that rules the world.
And they use inversion.
Inversion is hiding in plain sight.
And that's when the Red Cross is the thing that is trafficking children.
The children's, in England it's called, what was it, it's like the National
Child Line, I think it is, the Children's Helpline. That's the thing that covers up the abuse.
All of these sort of things, that appears to be real that I can see. That there's authorities
that are meant to protect you from things or the things actually doing the thing.
The SEC in this theory would be the thing that's actually trying to stop
other businesses and other companies actually being successful,
hiding in plain sight as a sort of authorization body in a sense.
So I do think that the development of cheer has sort of been hindered almost
to some degree deliberately. And it's not a very popular theory, and especially in a
decentralized ecosystem. So I've kind of been thinking that for a year or so, perhaps a little bit more. And that's really
where I'm at. And it sounds like at least to some degree, other people are starting to think that
there may be some truth to it. Who's complicit? Maybe not that many people at all in the world,
maybe 100, 1000 people. But Stanley Kubrick, in his movie Eyes Wide Shut, released six days before he died, I think it was, he's saying that basically the monarchy is not Thailand, but definitely England, the Dutch monarchy, all the politicians on both sides, liberals, Democrats, whatever they call them in England, it's conservatives, this and that. Not everyone,
but almost all of the leaders have always been in this secret society that's deliberately trying to
basically take over the world and destroy everything. New world order, it's called.
And there's video evidence of people like George Bush. Oh, we've got a request for people like
George Bush saying, we're going to bring in a new world order. Like England's Prime Ministers get more and more insane over time.
Like it's like they're acting deliberately to sort of put a technological guardrail
in that ruins everything.
So that's my conclusion.
And it gets me thinking that this idea of energy comes together,
that special energy comes together.
Like you've got the sound of a nice tuning fork and things will just attract to it and i really
think that the chia which is really the bitcoin 2 community i really think that it's like this
positive energy that's just come together sort of in like a lord of the rings sense in a way like
like this ring of hope that's sort of burning.
And that's where I'm at.
And it's only like 11.08 a.m. in the morning.
And where else in the world can you talk about something like this?
Like you're not in a lunatic asylum yet,
which maybe that'll happen by hour 211.
But welcome back to the stage cookies.
Oh, my goodness.
I need to sit this cup love it man it's so much more entertaining than everyone just going along with the uh official narrative
that everything is just as simple as it is um but to your point about even there being potentially
false histories right that uh that could propagate just as long as seemingly timeless truth,
depending on your temporary relationship with the information.
So too, couldn't it be true that it doesn't even have to be like an all black, all white
kind of dichotomy of the institutions are a fully inverted opposition to what they're
described as.
It could be certain cells infiltrating various institutions and trying to operate agendas that are maybe antithetical to more of a constitutionalist approach. And so you're waging a kind of a time war on the passing of power from those who erected
the institutions that stand to see their time become, you know, changed. And so maybe you have
particular, you know, agents within that are constantly standing for the old guard or standing
for a particular vested interest.
And it doesn't necessarily invert the entire institution, but at any given juncture, it could appear to be oppositional in almost irrational ways, unless you accept that they're operating with ulterior motives.
Yeah, for sure. I think that that's most likely, is that institutions or things get set up with all the good intentions, could even be the governments at some point.
And then over time, every little aspect of it kind of gets taken over.
So maybe child lines started out as a good thing in England.
Well, just give children a phone line to call to, you know, if they're in trouble.
It's like, well, that's good unless there's 1% who are really in trouble.
So maybe over time they took it over and it got infiltrated.
So yeah, for sure.
I think that humans are generally a light of positivity.
So I don't think that naturally we'd set something up with negative intention.
I think more likely it's just taken over over time.
Likely it's just taken over over time.
And then there's Klaus Schwab and George Soros.
So who knows?
Maybe a couple of them caught the evil side of the force
and just never let go.
Yeah, that George Soros, I heard it talked about the other day.
He's actually on camera.
So as far as the accusation that George Soros
sold children out to the Nazis or whatever,
it was actually him that said it.
He said it on, I think it's called 60 Minutes.
Is that a show in America?
It's 20 minutes.
For sure.
60 Minutes, yeah.
And he actually said it himself,
but he didn't even flinch.
He was almost smug.
He was almost gleeful.
He was like, what a brilliant plan I hatched.
Like, I like sold people to the death camps
and that's how I got into the elite.
Like, it's psychopath.
Like, madness.
And he's apparently the one that collapsed the British pound.
It's like 20 years ago or something or whenever it was like black whatever
black friday but they're just moving money around from like one place to another collapsing
everything and then hiding in plain sight as like peter teal with silicon valley bank it's
they just control all the money like one family owns all the money it's madness that shouldn't
happen i won't even want josh painter's family to own all the money he's one family owns all the money. It's madness. That shouldn't happen. I won't even want Josh Painter's family to own all the money.
He's a nice guy. But imagine if Psycho's owned all the money. We'd be
fucked. We almost are.
Yeah, man, you weren't around, but I was playing a few of those
notes just to kill the time. Got a lot of time to kill now, you know, a couple more months probably for time to play its part.
But I was, you know, I was just drawing the convenient threading of several needles through, who knows, probably totally unrelated and totally coincidental things.
But it's more entertaining to say, you know,
all those banks.
I even looked up kind of who the investors in Chia at the institutional level are and
asked robots to quantify them as either kind of on the side of establishmentarianism that
also likely exhibits some of the qualities that we were talking about as not reflecting the institution's stated mission,
and or do they align more as sort of like an American revolutionary.
And it was pretty overwhelmingly positive to see who was aligning with Chia as far as investments go. And then you can also take those profiles and kind of like back test it against asking
how they compare to some of the other names that we had just mentioned, like a George
Soros and any of those kind of investment, you know, philosophies, if you want to call
it that.
And it's pretty night and day.
It kind of looks like there might be a team that has money that isn't
necessarily the same as some of that money you were describing and that
they're going through some turbulence delivering, you know,
it seems like every twist and turn along the path has another,
just in case you hadn't fully prepared your butt you know this
could be the thing that takes you out and uh it's been pretty cool to see the chia team navigate
those you know pretty pretty choppy waters all the way back to the ftx stuff and even maybe back
to the initial coin listing even so it's how far back do you want to go yeah what did your uh what does your
research say is the money behind cheer mostly people who are currently kind of walking away
from the uh holier than thou silicon valley post-modern cult of whatever it is that they're kind of into out there, and more so in the
monetary revolutionaries, so kind of the Andreessens and Musks of not necessarily that they
have, you know, my interest in mind all the time, but that they're a little anti-establishment
when it comes to their, you know, their position of money and trade and exchange. So more of the
perhaps free market or innovative market kind of competitors, capitalists, if you will. But
it looks, it looks really healthy when you go down the line, it looks like a lot of definitely diverse. It's not just a bunch of think tanks that are all owned by one, you know, kind of mothership corporation.
Definitely each unique column visionaries or kind of independent-minded certain set of ideals that are echoed in some of the posture of the financial institutions that are investing in them.
Yeah, with Musk, like, I mean, hopefully he's a good guy buying Twitter and all that, but he was linked to Peter Thiel so long ago.
And he's obsessed with this letter X.
When Twitter was rebranded to X, that was a big red flag to me on some level, because even if X
is a good brand, and I'd argue it's actually a symbol of a secret religion beginning with S,
but because Twitter is so perfectly branded, it makes almost no sense to change it.
Twitter, tweeting, tweets.
I'll go on Twitter.
I'll tweet.
I'll Twitter.
And then it's like, let's change it to X.
I'll send out a tweet, an X.
I'll go on X.
Well, I still go to Twitter.com.
I don't call it X because it just...
It'd be like if you renamed the Tangang to the...
You're just a boomer, dude.
You gotta think about people that don't speak English.
To them, it's X marks the spot.
Yeah, maybe.
He's been obsessed with X for a long time, though, since the 2000s, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's...
I mean, dude, you get a shitload
of points, I'm pretty sure, in
Scrabble, if you lay down an X.
It might not be that many points, but it's probably more than
one.
X marks the spot
posting up on X.
It's like,
yo, where you posted up? I'm at the
spot.
Yeah, I guess. it's like yo where you post it up i'm at the spot yeah i guess it's send a tweet i'll tweet send which is like what does that even mean we're a bunch of stupid fucking birds we're just all chirping at each other out here like give us a
little credit that guy's flying rockets he gets to say he's at the spot when elon musk tells you like
be here in five minutes you know he means the place with the fucking giant rocket that's gonna
go up into space those rockets though i'm not sure they're not hot air balloons
we gotta get down there you and me gotta get one of these launches with the super telescope or something man and record it
live on rumble that would be a great end to the 222 hour space in the final hours we get to the
bottom of it the tang gang gets to the bottom of the elon musk's hot air balloon rockets man it
was bound to happen they give us too much time anymore on these marathons.
Sitting on top of it with like a crash hat on as
it shoots off.
We'll just sneak in past security
in a trench coat. I'll be on your
shoulders and they'll never
ask because they'll be like, someone that tall's
probably got security clearance.
One of the
things I saw at one of the last
Musk rocket launches, it almost seemed like there was fake sound for the cheering and celebration of the fans i saw one of the last musk rocket launches it almost seemed like there
was fake sound for the cheering and celebration of the fans at the thing i don't know i'm open
minded to it i don't think you're a musical guy like don't you think they're probably just mix
mastering the layers of audio so that you're gonna it's like your ears are recognizing that
it's too high fidelity to be the local uh if it was at the perspective of the visual but they're piping
it in from the perspective of the
like voices on
the ground where they can
boom the audio
yeah and plus
if you wanted to be
controlling you'd probably do that anyway
if the sounds were real you might add a layer
of like just
wrestling because they do that in wrestling.
If someone cheers for the person they don't want or not enough,
they'll put fake crowd sounds in.
And they've done that for The Rock before.
So that's not that strange.
And that's only two more letters, E.T., The Rock.
So, yeah, dude.
But I don't know.
It's probably just a weird mastering audio thing.
But don't you think it'd have to be... It couldn't be hot air balloons, dude.
Don't you think the candles get really hot? It'd have to be made out of something else.
Like metal.
Let me think. So...
Okay.
Hot air balloon with a layer of thin metal?
How thin we talking?
Mmm.
Visually, what would you need?
Like a millimeter?
I don't know.
I need almost a whole rocket's worth, Edward.
For me, personally, I gotta see a big metal rocket myself.
I don't know the proportions.
Um, it always looks so much cooler when they take the picture from the ground.
And then the, the rocket looks like it's 7,000 feet tall behind them.
But then when you get to the launch, it always looks like it could be a model rocket.
And they're just like, I need someone standing next to the tunnel where the exhaust comes out so I have perspective.
I just picture Birdman 2-3 standing there with his green mask
with a live microphone like BBC, live from the Mosk Rocket,
and then a giant exhaust fume.
How do they do those kinds of CGI's where you stand next to the dinosaur,
the long-necked
dinosaur, then you see how tall you are.
I need to see a little
graphic of a person
that gets blown away by the
deed smoke.
Yeah, I think dinosaurs might be
fake.
Okay.
You mentioned them.
Okay.
That one I can probably feel better about,
because I've heard crazy things,
like all the bones being found over in one spot in Idaho and shit.
I don't know, dude. The museums are really convincing,
but it could be, you know, cast shapes.
What do you know? What do you have
on the dinosaurs?
Well, nothing really.
I've never met one.
I've never seen one.
There's just no answers.
They're not real. You open up the
briefcase, there's nothing in it, bro.
No evidence in my
guitar case. I don't know know it's just your archaeology brush
it makes complete sense though like that makes more sense to me than there's a god i'll be
honest i'm not religious so we evolved from dinosaurs far more believable to me than there's a
man or whatever you think we would have to have evolved from the dinosaurs, though?
We couldn't have evolved from something next to the dinosaurs?
I guess so.
I can...
Look, I personally like the God one,
but if I'm riding with your idea here,
just because there's dinosaurs doesn't mean that you get to come from a dinosaur, bro.
Chill out. Yeah, I guess so
because they were meant to have been wiped out before
us. Yeah, you come from like gerbils,
don't you?
That's the English. The rest
come from like the sea, I think.
Like fish-walking penguin creatures.
Have
they really evolved? Do you even
have evidence to suggest that anything has changed
um as far as i'm concerned i like the gerbil people um warm-blooded those fish have fish blood
yeah evolution seems to make sense to me so dinosaurs being real makes sense but i did see one thing
the other day it was like what about dragons where if you if you are into let's say that
the dinosaurs are real let's say you know let's let's also admit that if the dinosaurs are real
and the fossils are real there could presumably also be shit loads of dinosaurs or species that we would kind
of think are dinosaurs that we've never ever come across because of misunderstandings of fossil
records or fossilization potentials and shit like that so it could it be too insane in your world
where the dinosaurs are real for dragons to have been a thing
no i mean dragons being a thing would be if dinosaurs are real dragons would be i mean it's
one percent more like less likely so not that unlikely something that breathes fire why not
sure they have that dinosaur in jurassic park that like spits the burning acid mucus venom or
whatever that's just you know one crazy mutation away from lighting a match on it or something
maybe so yeah yeah like you can spark a fire with like two bits of whatever, like twigs, so perhaps two teeth could grind together and spark the flammable mucus or whatever.
I heard of a snail that partially feeds on iron and is partially composed.
This is headline level shit.
I didn't read a paper on it, so it could be total bogus.
paper on it so it could be total bogus but it seemed to claim that the snail was partially
made of iron and that it like consumes iron so imagine if you had some kind of genetic mutation
where whatever the genomic expression that developed your teeth was also created like you know sparks of heat and then you had your whatever your acid spit
highly flammable acid spit i don't know it's i could imagine it yeah for sure and they've been
part of lots of cultures dragons obviously in china so there's something there i don't know maybe it's just a bit fancy but i could definitely if the minotaurs are real dragons it's like oh all that has to do is be what three
times bigger than it is and that's a that's like an insane if if that thing was through it's already
life-threatening if it's chasing you today as it is if it was any bigger if it was
like grizzly bear sized and was fucking running around like that dude you we would write stories
about that we'd be like no one's going fucking outside at night yeah we'll be writing stories
about these twitter spaces which are just human conversations so a fire breathing dragon
would definitely get represented somewhere in an nft collection if they had it in the past that is
they were clear in the wild man they were fighting big animals we got we got it down to like a couple
islands where the komodo dragons hang out, we could have been running, dude.
Imagine the ingenuity required to create the fire and stuff.
What if the first great minds that were going to stumble onto it got eaten by a 15-foot-tall lizard dragon?
We missed the fire arc by thousands of years
and we were just constantly running away from big-ass lizards.
Yeah, it's possible that one of the things with the flat earth theory,
which I don't think the world is flat, by the way,
I think the world is probably a lot bigger than we think it is,
is that if there are exotic creatures like that,
they would exist outside the, according to the flat earth people,
try not one, and i'm not
saying that because i'm uh scared of saying i believe in flies i actually don't believe in it
i think the world's a giant globe that's maybe concave but if those exotic creatures existed
it would be outside of what they call the ice ring or the antarctica or whatever it is so yeah why
not in far lands there's dragons there that you know they couldn't get past antarctica or whatever it is so yeah why not in far lands there's dragons there that
you know they couldn't get past antarctica it's too cold it's just not their thing so where are
you at on deep ocean life where where are you at on aliens harboring ufos in the deep seas
so let's think it wouldn't be hard if you've got a ufo if you're an alien that could live in a ufo
it wouldn't be that hard to have one that flew underwater i mean humans have made like
sort of like cars that can go underwater for a bit so something that's in the sea also how deep
does the sea go you could just dig underneath it right like? Like the Channel Tunnel is where, you know, the tunnel from France to England.
If you just had an exotic spaceship down there that could just fly through the water,
a human could do that, so an alien could do that.
As far as an alien living in the water, I'm not sure.
I don't know if aliens are real.
I don't think shape-shifting lizards are real.
I don't think aliens are real, but it's possible.
You think there's evil banking elite,
and you don't believe in God, and you don't believe in aliens.
You think that the peak of the struggle of the universe
is being conducted by a couple guys that haven't died yet,
and their inbred families passing down massive amounts of capital and choking out competition?
I think that's the most likely. I'd love it if I became...
Then what are they into? That's what I gotta know. What do they believe in?
that's what I gotta know, what do they believe in
just fucking their sisters or something
Just fucking their sisters or something?
so the book
that seems to go down the rabbit hole
with the most authority I've seen
and someone you can actually email
Fritz Springmeier wrote the book
Bloodlines of the Illuminati
and in it, the sort of the
he talks about different stuff
some of it is definitely true
but he says the Rothschilds have a
like a table basically and that people go there and that they can summon the bad guy.
Not Scott Hall, but the devil.
Basically, they can talk to the devil.
So they, as in people who have been to that table think the devil is real but you could fake that
like i could think of ways to fake that a microphone for sure how do you feel about
the name of palantir being named after the lord of the rings stones that are able to
observe you know timelines and localities it's just
such an obvious
red flag giveaway that what they're doing
is completely evil
that if you're trying to take over the world
I've got limited
your mic's breaking up while you're trying to
break the story on Palantir
so one point to Edward
yeah
I mean it's such an obvious giveaway, Palantir.
The evil stone in Lord of the Rings, it's like Sauron.
The way Christopher Lee played the character.
Or was Christopher Lee Sauron?
I don't know.
The mic's wrecked.
Can you swap connections at all?
Test, test.
Might be the Bluetooth range running out if they're putting a bag over your head
and drone coptering you out of the living room right now.
Can you hear me now?
Test, test, test.
One, two, three.
Test, test, test.
Well, in the event that my microphone starts sounding a little sketchy here any second, this is the 222-hour space.
Late night, U., US early morning, Asia
love. And we
are discussing
the things that get you disappeared
in Twitter's faces.
catch the recording.
It's probably the only way to prove any of
it happened. We'll be distributing
that
via DHL
priority mail this evening.
Are you back with us, Edward?
Can you hear me now?
What was Edward saying?
Did he believe in dinosaurs or not?
Took too long.
Nice try, Fed. Anyway, you were saying something. I'm just switching to a new phone here.
Mm-hmm.
They're still tuning the voice modulation to clone Edward's voice.
He's reading the Mary Had a Little Lamb card. almost too well you are back all right nice i've got so i'm on my i shouldn't say
i'm on the same phone palantir let me just turn that other phone off if i've got one
so i don't get an echo yeah it seems like the Palantir naming
is such an obvious red let me just plug this in sorry otherwise I'll forget you would have thought
having two fully charged phones would be enough for a 24-hour space but it's not like 20 minutes
in it's one's already quarter gone but so calling it Palantir, it's such an obvious sign that it's evil.
Like the Palantir stone, right?
Is his name Sauron, Christopher Lee's character?
I get confused.
Is he Saruman?
He's Saruman.
Sauron is the eye.
So Palantir's the stone and Sauron is the eye in the stone.
Yes. Well, the stone, technically the various Palantirs, I believe.
Look, I'll pull the data.
I'll get us some hard-coded research because you're pretty much spot on,
but I know that there's some specificities here.
So we'll pull it up.
We'll hold him accountable.
He tried to hide in broad daylight
guess what we're gonna use google and we're gonna crack the case open wide here live in the 222 hour
space yeah the palantir stone is is so evil in people's mind that the fact that the elite have used it
as the name for their surveillance strategy,
I don't know, it's hard to draw conclusions.
I mean, one is always simulation.
One is always, this is it.
We're all reflections in the minds.
I have the one true God that is love.
It's a simulation.
Of course, anything can happen in that, right?
So that's one.
Secondly is the elite are so confident that they think that they can just, like, say we're evil in front of people's faces and they won't get it.
And a third one is that the elite are actually far more stupid than they see to do that.
Like, why not just call it the, why not call Palantir shmabble or something, like
wibble or any combination of sounds that isn't one that is associated with all seeing evil.
It gives me great hope they call it Palantir. And Alex Karp saying that they're going to spray
fentanyl-laced urine on anyone
that criticizes them.
I mean, surely they know that's the sort of thing that will wake people up quickly.
So the fact that it's like a glitch that's there, like an infinite money glitch, but
in terms of revealing people's sort of perception, and it's hard to draw conclusions why they
would do it.
But the one I think most likely is they're not as smart as they think,
the people right at the top.
And they perhaps don't have anyone to tell them.
That's a bad idea.
I think we can dispel some of the fear.
It was as I thought.
I haven't read some of the more OG Tolkien in a long time,
but I recall this much.
There are various Palantirs,
and the Palantiri,
they were crafted by elves of the Elder Days,
and there are various sizes,
but they're specifically used for far-seeing.
There's one in particular that can only far see to the West,
to the undying lands,
but the rest of them are basically far seeing.
And the idea is it can be locations or events or theoretically like times.
And then it's not that they're evil.
It's that they can show selective truths because of the probabilistic constraints of the moment, which can lead inferior users.
The uninitiated will sometimes see those as telling of the future, and that can lead acting in ways that cause like fallout and disharmony but um technically they were made you know the idea then we would look at the palantir and say they're using like an abundance of resources to be able to look far and wide to observe
specifically events that are relevant to their you know procedural context for whatever it is
analysis of violent activity or something somewhere or preemptive analysis of that kind of thing.
And the preemptive is where you could have the abundance of information given the particular context of the moment mislead you to falsely believe a set fate outcome, you know, that
you then play your hand into sort of propagating. It's like an unset fate that you accidentally drive the impulse into.
But that's like a natural byproduct of them being so powerful.
It's not that they're evil.
It's just that you use them sparingly because the more that you use them the more likely you are to
input your own like falsity into it so the idea is that they're only used under incredibly
you know either incredibly talented or trained initiated individuals you know, the illumined, the select, but otherwise you use them as
sparingly as possible so that you don't accidentally create a deceived timeline of fate that you
commit to. Because it's like, if the corruptible man, you know, the king looks in and says,
like, I want to see how to defeat my enemy in battle, it could show him what he wants to see, and he could, you know,
set his armies up to fail because of an inability to appreciate, like, an overarching theme of the
time. Interesting. So the Palantiri was actually a species of people in the Lord of the Rings series?
The Palantiri are the spheres themselves. The Palantiri is plural for Palantir.
The elves of the Elder Days, specifically Feanor, the legendary Noldoran elf known for his unparalleled skill in gem making. He also created the Simerils, central to the Silmarillion.
And it says they were originally made in the Undying Lands during the First Age,
but seven of them were gifted to the faithful Numenoreans, the Dunedain,
Dane by the elves before the fall of Numenor in the second age. The seven stones were brought to
by the elves before the fall of Numenor in the Second Age.
Middle-earth by Elendil and his sons when they escaped Numenor's destruction. They were divided
between the kingdoms of Arnor in the north and Gondor in the south. Arnor received three,
one at Amun-Sul Weathertop, one at Anuminas, and one at Elostirion in the Tower Hills.
This last one was unique as it could only look westward toward the Undying Lands.
And then Gondor received four.
One at Orthanc in Isengard, one at Minas Ithil, later Minas Morgul,
one at Osgiliath, the capital, and one at Minas Anor, later Minas Tirith.
How they function.
Palantiri are crystal spheres varying in size from small about a foot in diameter
to large several feet across like the one that has osgiliath which requires multiple people to move
goes into talking about vision and communication so basically it was their ability to you know
network uh twitter space slash eye in the Sky slash carrier pigeon tech.
And then it goes into all of the real lore of how they've moved and how they've been used.
But here we go. Here's some stuff to consider even Saruman the white
that he was able to effectively like mind meld him into his plans um
this is Denethor's Minas Tirith Stone Steward Denethor II uses it obsessively to foresee
threats but Sauron manipulates the visions through the captured Minas Ethelstone, showing only despair, e.g. the vastness of Mordor's armies. This drives
Denethor to madness and suicide during the siege of Minas Tirith. So, it's kind of like,
you know, spy versus spy is what it sounds like, and then there's also the implication of spy
versus thine own eye, which is not everything that you see is
necessarily to be taken as like this ultimate truth. So mistakes could be made.
Interesting. Yeah, the use of this word palantir, it's crucial to everything one way or another.
Again, why would they choose that name?
I mean, there's this thing that in that secret society,
you have to say everything you're doing
because it's just one of the rules of that religion.
So if you're going to take over the world,
you have to at least call your all-seeing sort of totalitarian technology thing.
You have to actually call it something evil,
otherwise you're not warning people in that secret society revelation of the method it's called so maybe that would explain it but
again i don't like i don't know it could also be uh of the wizardly class that identify like
i heard that peter teal was giving some multi-day lecture on the Antichrist, and to my understanding, people like William Cooper seem to blow the lid on these ancient mystery schools and their affinity for perverting concepts like the New Testament or other ancient wisdoms to take the kind of promethean fire
and the fallen uh angel lucifer to be their god to be their kind of muse um could it be the case
that because the people that like lord of the rings, in my experience, are dope as fuck. Could it be the case that he's really aware of deep lore?
If he's a big-time Tolkien fan, what if he's actually just balls deep into the lore
and knows that you'll never be able to convince everyone all the time,
but by leaving breadcrumbs in the dank cultural memetics, people will be more likely to eventually compare against the source material and find that, at the very least, it's how you use it, right?
but by leaving breadcrumbs in the dank cultural memetics,
Because even Gandalf and Pippin were able to use it to their advantage by positioning the enemy in what they felt was a position of confidence when it was a false position of confidence.
So maybe there's layers to it or levels to it, and that person could be going out and trying to blow the whistle on those kinds of concepts or something else.
I don't follow Peter Thiel closely.
Like that's when I get enough time to go in another conspiracy rabbit hole,
I'm sure I'll listen to more of his personal interviews.
And I would also like to find out if he had recordings of those lectures on
the antichrist that he was giving, because, you know,
it'd be one thing if he was kind of like,
I think the devil's
a pretty chill dude or if he's just talking to like you know like that that i feel like the
context would illuminate some of the uh potential uh maybe you know it could be it could all just
be deception but maybe it would give us a deeper appreciation for where their positions actually
are yeah it just seems madness that he's out there talking about that series that anti a deeper appreciation for where their positions actually are.
Yeah, it just seems madness that he's out there talking about that series,
that anti-Tim Dillon, the bit he did. But how are you hearing about it, you know?
Was Tim Dillon at the seminar, or did he read the headline,
and everyone else who read the headline can only make the five-second monologue
about the headline?
And so it's like, yeah, it's very easy to point at them and be
like the evil people but what if it wasn't the case what if it's just that we're not looking
we don't want to look we don't want to find out that they're just super elite tolkien fans that
have the highest level of integrity and it's just the highest stakes technology so it's wrought with paranoia and fear yeah well let's think about the possibility talking let's say wasn't real in a
sense real i'm not saying he didn't exist let's say he did but what if he was given the books and
said you know your gimmick we're going to release some books and say that you wrote them uh like i
don't know when did he die?
Was like 100, is there any record of him talking?
Is there any evidence he sort of,
I won't say that he existed because there is his books,
but I guess what I'm trying to say is what if things like Lord of the Rings
or Harry Potter or whatever, or Star Wars perhaps,
what if they're put out there to further some agenda,
but it's not necessarily they're fans of him,
but maybe they wrote it in a sense.
I don't know.
I'm sort of trying to think of the unlikely scenarios that could also be
true, but J.R.R. Tolkien, it's a bit of a,
it's a really nice sounding name for an author.
It's like, oh, wowr r tolkien it's
like it wasn't bobba smith or gareth finch or something it's like it rolls off the tongue
in such a memorable way that it could just be coincidence but it's very specific to what's
going on like all this all-seeing eye is like palantir it's maybe maybe, yeah, they're just fans of it. And they were like, okay,
we'll take over the world and let's just use the iconography of this random
book and we'll just steer in that direction. But it's, you know,
not that long ago it was released, right? Was it the,
was it the early 1900s or I'm not even sure.
Yeah. And he was raised Roman Catholic by his mother and was confirmed Tolkien, I'm saying. did and the person who's potentially perverting the security state or the
surveillance apparatus
is paying homage to
the omniscient
greed tech
gems of those
books so
they're not necessarily greedy the elves were
kind of mysteriously
of higher piety and
able to create magically imbued, you know, artifacts.
But it is kind of interesting.
So in the end, the two surviving Palantiri are returned to Aragorn's restored kingdom
kingdom before entering a mundane age so there's in the kind of idea of the arc of palantiri they
before entering a mundane age.
do end up kind of ending as two and maybe maybe that's where that greatest ally thing comes from
maybe there's two palantirs out there if you you will, for the sake of communicating across vast distances or something and exchanging information or something.
And maybe the idea is that they're so powerful that upon restoration of the kingdom, they've mostly become useless because you just stay within the bounds of like it also
tells the story of uh forgetting old traditions like forgetting the ancient wisdoms and so that's
kind of bizarre when peter teal's going out and doing an antichrist seminar you know is he is he
just going and speaking to the ancient mystery school um you, mystery wisdoms and stuff like that,
or is it a revelation of the method, et cetera.
But I don't know.
That's why I haven't taken the time, but I do have a curiosity about it.
Yeah, I'd not really heard of the guy until a few years ago, I think.
One of my friends in Bangkok is an admirer of him.
He's a rich businessman successful blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah and then when I saw him sort of interviewed for the first time on
I can't remember what it was it may have been Rogan it may have been something and I just thought
like he's not surely he's not that good at business like he's shifty like being trustworthy is
well I would have thought would be one of the key things in business and it
it sort of didn't pass the smell test first time and then when he talks about stuff his body
language is like it's the dog in the simpsons i can't remember the episode but there's one episode
where that there's an evil dog and it's like well how do you know it's evil and you have to zoom in
on its eyes and it looks shifterly left and right i I'm looking at Peter Thiel as like, that's just a bad guy.
Like, it's a heel.
He's looking left and right, like, 10 times in a row.
Like, it seems wrong.
And the fact that he hasn't been out there in the public for so long.
And then in the last year or two, is it they thought at some point we'll have to go in front of the camera?
Like, now's our time.
We've won. Like, no one will notice anything. it they thought at some point we'll have to go in front of the camera like how's our time we've
won like no one will notice anything or is it that they are pulling the strings and there's no one
else that can go out there and sort of be on camera to talk about things because like the
the lower level henchmen that have to talk like they've done their bit so i don't know it's all
possible but he's definitely shifty and the fact that his company is called Palantir, again, is that stupidity or is that revelation of the method or what?
I don't know. Peter Tiller identifies as Christian, J.R.R. Tolkien, Roman Catholic.
The Palantiri were created for good at times.
Other people misused them.
Facebook was just Facebook,
and then the Biden administration told them to censor particular stories,
and they just went along complicitly.
So is it almost like, what if it's more of a,
hey guys, I understand what this is,
so if you ever see it being misused, that would be a sign that I am compromised. Something has occurred here that should not occur, because when the wisest elves use it, it's just a useful tool and serves purpose. But if someone were to allow pride and ego or ulterior motives
to creep in to using the technology, then all of a sudden you're going to get totally different
outcomes. Because a good question would be, is the world being run by extremely evil people
that are channeling the devil to learn alien tech secrets,
or are the people that have an abundance of love in their heart and sometimes express it through
religious divinity and a commune with nature, are they actually more likely to develop great ideas?
And then through some combination of jealousy and disruptive adversarial competition, people
pervert the truth to be a boogeyman story because then the fear cuts off your pursuit of logical
explanations and creates a simplified explanation that can just effectively become this almost all-encompassing, like, you know, the catch-all of the banking elite.
Not that there can't be the evil within something that the Rothschilds have done or do or, you know, things like that,
but that not every single instance of high power or, like, advanced tech is corrupt.
Yeah, I guess it doesn't have to be that the tech itself is not corrupt, but it's, I guess,
the way it's used or because water can be used to drown. Right. Like it's the fluid of life,
I guess. But people that die of ecstasy overdoses generally drink too much water.
And so that's where it's like, I think
rather than be overly concerned
about does Peter Thiel look shifty, I think
it's just more of a matter of, you have to keep your
eye on anyone that has their eye on
the Palantir.
Anyone whose job it is
to use the seeing stones,
there must be a
circle of accountability. We need to have the person that watches the person that watches the seeing stones, there must be a circle of accountability.
We need to have the person that watches the person that watches the seeing stone.
And we will need people to watch those people, and there are people who follow me.
because it you know the the more difficult thing is how do you justify that they're evil and yet
they haven't just like droned us in the middle of the conversation yeah good point because they
trigger a critical mass like if it's that thing in the x-files if you kill one person you risk
turning one man's religion into a crusade.
And it's, in a sense, me getting drone bombed live in a 222-hour stage.
That's going to be enough to wake a lot of people up.
So I think you have to be evil, but not in a way that wakes too many people up.
Welcome Mondo to the stage.
Yeah, I just got to pop in here for a quick little Peter Thiel tidbit of information that you wouldn't have known unless I did what I'm doing.
Thank you for listening.
And that is this.
I'm one degree of separation from him through a friend, very close friend, who I can basically confirm the guy is not an evil dude.
He's not just, that's not possible based on what I know.
I've been to a party at his house once in Hollywood where he was living there.
And I met people there and I, it's just not a, it's more, it's, it's, it's,
it's not, they're not dark.
There's no darkness there.
So they may not, I don't know, you know, details about all the ins and outs of what they do in their businesses and things like that.
But Peter Thiel was definitely somebody on our side, I'd say, in the sense of, you know, seeking truth, freedom. He has a pretty
unique kind of theological background. When he was at Stanford, he was influenced by, I think,
a French theologian there. I tried to read up on that guy. It was a bit complex, not very interesting
to me at the time. But I just, I really don't think there's darkness there based on everything I
know. And my one friend, that's one degree of separation. Yeah, no, sorry,
I just don't get, I think you're barking up the wrong tree there, but.
It's good to hear.
Yeah. So, but yeah, so keep on keeping on, man.
There's a lot of, I think I liked the way Gooey was talking about, you know, you're looking for the people who, when you're around people of light, there's people, the light wins.
You just got to always know the light wins.
And I kind of think that today's events and this week's events have shown what happens when darkness and light sort
of interact and light wins so um you know let's just keep moving forward and i appreciate you
giving it i appreciate you giving us that insight because it's all it also corroborates the fact
that the only time I hear the scary,
oh, is Peter Thiel some evil person?
It's coming from some intermediary, some unnamed, masked, nameless intermediary
that just already has the headline, and I just have to accept it.
It's like, no, no, no, no, because complex details we can't get into right now.
It's evil.
It's like, mm, I haven't seen any primary evidence to corroborate that.
So it's good to hear that it makes me feel a little less crazy.
Yeah, cheers, Mondo.
My phone cut off just when you said you've been to a party with Peter Thiel.
Could you say it again?
You missed all the good stuff, man.
Okay, yeah, well, so back to this one degree of separation friend
that I've been friends with for, I guess, 20 years or more.
So it's not, you know, it's difficult for me to see the darkness here.
This one particular friend, he wrote an interesting good book
called The Paleo Manifesto, nothing particularly special, but
I'm mentioned in that book. But he's currently writing books kind of on theology, this friend
that's friends with Peter Thiel, close friends with Peter Thiel. And Peter Thiel, I actually
remember as a student, I kind of, he was kind of when he was at Stanford really trying to
prevent the, he was there during the time when they began to sort of break down the quote unquote, the Western classics.
We need to, we need to start branching off into these other, you know, what, and he was making a strong argument to stay more focused on, you know, the traditional canon of philosophers and books and indeed religious ideas that you would be getting as a student in a Western university.
He was making big.
Then he went and he was, after he graduated from Stanford, he was very smart.
He went to work at an investment bank type thing or a law office, financial, you know,
in the financial world in New York.
And when he saw that, you know, when he started interacting with that, he didn't dig it because,
you know, it's a lot of bullshit and liars and people who aren't seeking the truth.
And he was a person who had been touched by, like I said, this French theologian, Christian theologian who was teaching at Stanford.
It's a very, it's a trippy, it's too complex, but this French theologian has this concept of the scapegoat, you know, that's used in the Jewish religion.
You put all the evil in it, and then you send it out, and it takes the evil away.
But, like, I was just pointing out, oh, and I did, yes, unbelievably, when I got invited to go to an event that was going to be, and was at his house that he was living in in Hollywood at the
time. I didn't even know who he was exactly. So I had to do a little bit of research. And then I
was like, holy shit, because I happened to be one of the first people to also get a PayPal account,
because back in 1997, I was one of eBay's first power sellers. They literally, you know, when I signed up for
eBay in 1997, after I filled out the first part of the application, there were extra questions
beyond the normal thing to fill out. And that was, there were things, they were very playful,
like when did you last see Elvis? Have you been abducted by an alien? Blah, blah, blah. You know,
it was just fun. And anyway, he had something to do with PayPal, with Elon back in the day.
And PayPal saved my life.
I was, at that time, you can check it out, theauctionguy.com.
It was an old website I was associated with back before.
It, like, went out of business.
I mean, he stopped working in 1999, I think.
But it's still up there for fun.
It was a bitch, man, when you try to sell.
I mean, it was fun.
eBay was like, I came back from Japan.
It was like I had a scanner.
I had the first digital camera, like that little Kodak digital camera.
It could take like eight pictures before you download it.
And I had a Macintosh computer with a Japanese operating system on it and I got back to the
United States after being five years in Japan and my cousin was saying oh have you heard of this
thing called eBay and I said what no what is it he says oh blah blah blah so I went on there
and I saw it I was like oh that's interesting and my cousin had this old like an advertisement for
a car like a cool old car and he was getting ready to throw it away I said let oh, that's interesting. And my cousin had this old, like an advertisement for a car, like a cool old car, and he was getting ready to throw it away.
I said, let's just for fun scan that, put it up on eBay and, you know, start an auction for a dollar.
And so I got my old scanner and I scanned that thing in and I put it up and I put a dollar.
And holy fuck, when that somebody bought that thing I mean when the
click you know and it was just like I've never been the the the I the what the internet did for
people like me before what you guys don't know what it was like it was like homesteading you
suddenly had all this blue water you didn't have to fill out paperwork to get a license to verify
that you were this you just like go. And so PayPal saved
my ass because it was going great. I was, you know, starting to be able to make a living
independently from having to go to a job on my own. And, but you had to frigging go take checks
down to the goddamn bank. You had to wait for them to clear. You had to, it was a fucking nightmare.
So I was paying attention to everything that was
happening at the time. I was really getting into open source. I'm not really qualified to be a
computer person other than the fact that I'll keep banging on it until it makes me what I'm
wanting. And at that time, PayPal really, really changed the deal. But I was also hearing,
because I was into open source, I was running just a little bit later after that, I was running two G4 computers running
what's called Yellow Dog Linux. It was a flavor of Linux made specifically for the
chip that Macintoshes were using back in the day. And it was a fucking sick machine.
And that's why I started following Bram and other people because, and I heard about
the Mojo Nation back in the day.
I was like, fuck, we all knew that we needed this kind of, you know,
we needed this money, electronic money that had a lot of zeros, right?
The micropayments were, we were excited.
Micropayments were going to change the world, man.
And then you started realizing, you know,
you can't fucking micropayment when you're doing the goddamn dollars
and these machines and all. So long story short, I've lived long and stayed healthy so I
could keep having fun with this ecosystem that's really the greatest liberator of all time, right?
We are like, can you believe what we're doing right now? I mean, we got a dude in Thailand,
we got another guy over here and thousands over here,
and we're like having a conversation about the most radical change that's ever happened.
The most incredible invention of all human inventions by far, as far as I'm concerned,
is the invention of money. Without it, we're fucked. If you have no money, you're fucked.
And so we've got a new tool that makes the money better for everybody, including us little
guys.
And we can get our little dribbles without having to bow down to whoever the, I guess
in the end, whoever the bigwigs are, whether they're evil, whether they talk to Satan,
or whether they're just lucky, I don't know.
But regardless, we don't need them.
So let's just move forward now.
Stop worrying about...
We've got a new tool in our hands
that basically changes the world better than any other tool that's ever been available.
If you believe in light overcoming darkness and you believe in game theory,
we're going to play our way into the golden age.
That's my theory.
That's what I'm standing on.
And that's what I know because of some of the traveling I've done.
Thank you for listening.
I love that.
That's like just washes peace over your mind.
Thank you, Mondo, for sharing your experiences and your stories,
because it's really cool to get to listen to that and to learn from you.
And it also just makes the world look much more like how I want to believe it to be and less like what fear tries to create as stories and stuff.
So very cool. Thank you.
Yeah, that was super cool. I wanted to ask about Peter Thiel's house.
It stood out to me he had a house
in Hollywood and he went to be an investment
no listen Isengard dude you weren't listening
he lives in a giant black tower
and he paces around
in roads
yeah
the red carpet and all that and Hollywood
is very Rothschildian
so it's not that unlikely someone powerful would live in Hollywood because it's a part of The red carpet and all that and Hollywood is very Rothschildian.
So it's not that unlikely someone powerful would live in Hollywood because it's a part of it. Is it in L.A.? It's a part of L.A. So it's like lots of people will live there.
Should I go ahead and can I give you should I give you the story about going to his house?
Yeah, please do. I'd love to know about what it looked like and stuff like that.
OK, so this was let's see how many years ago was this?
This was one, two, three, four, four or five years ago.
And this friend of mine that I mentioned was, what was he doing?
It was some kind of thing that was happening in Malibu.
And then there was going to be an after party, our gathering at Peter Thiel's
house. And some of the people at that party, one, for example, give you an example, was Rick Rubin,
for example, who I got to know too, and Mark Sisson, and some interesting people. The house
was in the Hollywood Hills. It had an incredible view. We pulled up, my wife and I showed up with
my dog and they wouldn't let the dog on the property. There was quite sophisticated, well,
there was security. Okay. You pulled in, you know, there were people there. The house was
pretty cool. It was a beautiful house and had an incredible view.
And there were people milling around.
I actually didn't meet Peter himself.
I mean, I didn't talk to him directly.
I had an incredible great experience, though, because when I was 11 years old, I got my Amway Believers pen.
I don't know if you guys ever heard of this thing called
Amway, but back in the day, it was kind of like a door-to-door soap salesman thing, and I kind of
wanted to make some money. And the grandfather that started that is a guy named Rich DeVos,
I think it was, and his grandson was there or something. So I got to meet him and tell him my
story about both as 11-year-old getting my Amway Believers pen, probably in like 1975. And then 10 years later, I told
him about another Amway experience I had. Unfortunately, it was an Amway experience
where two friends of mine had just dropped acid and got invited to an Amway party. They
were like, don't be afraid. And so we decided to go ahead and in
there. And that was quite, and I told them that story too. I kind of thought I probably shouldn't
have gone that far, tell them such a crazy story. But yeah, so all in all, it was pretty cool.
Probably if I were to have a meetup again, I'd, well, anyway, the house was nice. And, you know, Peter's gay, right? And one
of the things that Peter, I learned about him when I, from my friend at the time was he's the guy
that, you know, I mean, you all know this probably, but he's the guy that helped Hogan sue the guy or
whatever that thing was. I mean, whatever. So yeah, it was pretty cool. Yeah, it was pretty cool.
I had to leave my dog in my car, park down the hill,
and then some neighbor was calling because my dog was helping.
I mean, I had some disruptions during this thing.
And anyway, when you're a chimpanzee traveling, you know,
people look at you funny.
People look at you funny.
But, yeah, that's the story.
And then keep on keeping on, folks.
I'm going to drop off and just listen. But, yeah, that's the story. And then keep on keeping on, folks. I'm going to drop off and just listen.
But, yeah, I think there's a lot of brightness coming.
We just, you know, it's no fun if it's easy, though, right?
If we're just staring into the light all the time.
You know, they say there's that.
I just learned about the project Monroe Project.
You know, the CIA found some dude, the Monroe Project.
They help people with some kind of like with certain frequencies and stuff.
They can get you into an attitude where you start, you know, feel time disappears.
This is the kind of stuff I do, okay?
That's the kind of traveling I'm doing.
I don't believe in time exactly in this.
I mean, time's not exactly the way most people imagine it.
I think it's all here now.
And we're just like in a maze and we are in certain parts of it, let's say.
But in the end, yeah, a good attitude and fearlessness help you get way further than the other things do.
the other things do. So let's try to do more of that is probably the right attitude going forward.
So let's try to do more of that is probably the right attitude going forward.
And we've got some tools. This is one of them to help us sort of not have to kowtow in order to
have the point system in order to share and distribute and sell and trade and do all the
cool stuff that's going to make us more prosperous so that we don't have to do all the bullshit that
we've been doing now. We've been in a weird world literally my entire life i mean i i think i was
i'm i was born on the day that separates the boomers from x generation
thank you for listening loved it what a way to end a promo. I don't even know how to top that.
Like, if you told me an hour and a half ago when I woke up that Mondo had been to Peter Teal's house and I'd be having that conversation live, I'd be like, no, that ain't going to happen.
But that is crazy.
I thought, like, first impression was it seemed a bit strange that you weren't allowed allowed a dog in and uh that you couldn't meet the
person whose party it was i don't know just it's like if i had a party i'd probably meet the person
who's there but maybe that in america big houses it's like a different thing but that's a little
bit strange but the story about gorka and how peter till basically destroyed Gorka is a really interesting story.
It's interesting Mondo mentioned it because that was, I think, the first time I had heard of him.
But the short of it is that Gorka was a sort of online website magazine that revealed Peter Thiel was gay.
No one knew about it because not that many people followed Gorka.
But then Hulk Hogan, a sex tape had come out or something,
where Hogan had banged Bubba Love Sponge's wife, as you would, and it was filmed, and somehow Gorka
was involved with it, and because Peter Thiel was basically secretly pissed off about being
outed as gay, he secretly at the time hid behind Hulk Hogan and funded his lawsuit and basically
secretly at the time hid behind hulk hogan and funded his lawsuit and basically destroyed gorker
and it ended up going bankrupt and closed so it somehow came out that peter till was secretly the
one behind it and hulk hogan got like a i don't know 50 100 million dollar payout something
allegedly and in the whole process of it all the hulk hogan racist audio tape got released and arguably destroyed
hulk hogan's reputation and that seemed to have been an offshoot of the fact that he was sort of
like the manchurian not manchurian candidate but sort of like the the person on the legal case the
face of it but someone else was bankrolling it to achieve an, which was to destroy our media website.
And Peter Thiel later turned out to be the one behind it.
So I think that's a significant story.
And it's interesting that you knew about it, Mondo.
So thanks for mentioning it.
But yeah, more questions than answers. Yeah, well, real quick on the party.
Now I can sort of organize it a little bit better.
It was basically my friend, after his event, it wasn't a party specifically for Peter Thiel.
It was my friend using Peter Thiel's house to bring Peter Thiel's friends and his friends together.
I guess is the way it would be.
I guess it wouldn't...
Anyway, whatever.
I don't know how to how to how to answer that
exactly but no i appreciated that mondo thank you for your uh for your stories and your perspective
uh because it brings a lot more kind of light uh for me anyway but edward i'll i'll always be here
to help you know talk about i try to always entertain the fact that it might not be
as simple as chalking it up to evil stuff sometimes it's like well let's ask chach bt a little bit
about that old tolkien stuff that maybe i don't remember any of and have watched way too many of
the extended cut lord of the rings to appreciate the deep lore at this point
at this point
yeah it's
like the positive outcome is
always the best
some of the reason I ask these questions is
because I want to be wrong
it would be easier for me if I was wrong
on it for sure
so it's
I guess we'll find out at some point
I mean it's by the way that gawker thing closing I mean
that gawker was a piece of shit motherfucking thing as far as I can tell I mean right I mean
this is I would assume privacy yeah someone was gonna go and being assholes your personal stuff
like that unless you were already you know infamous for a string of shitty things you had done,
and then they just kind of wanted to get you heated or something,
but it kind of sounds like they reached in pretty privately
and pulled a rabbit out of the hut.
Yeah, I don't know if it was good or bad or whatever,
but I hate that kind of stuff anyway.
I hate the whole whatever.
Well, that kind of gets back to what I was saying Mondo
The only you know opinions I hear
Are second hand
Not necessarily as in
They were friends with Peter Thiel
Just out of the side curtain
Kind of a voice comes and says
There's evil things afoot and you're like who was that
And they're already gone and it's like okay
I guess I can imagine you know Edward knows
It's very easy to roll it up into a maybe it's a table and they're chanting crazy
shit but um it's very easy to imagine it in simple terms where there's like a handful of people that
conspire and do it all but what if it's actually way more complex what if it's also way better than that too well and then eric weinstein is his uh was his
um you know sort of like financial uh or not finally you know had a role of maybe was managing
some of his money you aware of that i think it's eric weinstein or the other
yeah that's it so and my friend is friends with him, too.
I don't, I don't, that guy's, I mean, all these guys are,
I don't think any of them are really evil.
I mean, they might, I don't know.
I don't get that feeling at all.
But I don't like them all either.
I mean, I don't like everybody.
I don't like, I mean, I don't dislike them either.
I just, I don't have any strong opinions,
but I don't get any sense that they're evil.
So good data points.
I'll take Eric Weinstein.
Oh, sorry.
I'll just say Eric Weinstein looks a lot like Harvey Weinstein.
I'll say that, but sorry, go ahead.
I think it was not sure if it was.
Oh no, dude, I was, I was just rambling,
but I'm actually going to pop down because my snacks have turned into relax, and now I must go into the ASMR portion.
I got to drop down, too, but I want to say one last thing about that Eric Weinstein was he got pretty cringe on Joe Rogan.
He gets a little cringe.
I lost my interest in him.
You can go watch, actually, a podcast that Eric Weinstein did. He gets a little cramp. He gets some. I lost my interest in him. I watched.
You can go watch actually a podcast that Eric Weinstein did.
Am I saying that right?
Anyway.
I think so.
With Peter Thiel too.
And he had like.
You can get a sense.
Whatever.
Whatever.
We're going to overcome all this.
We're just going to have to.
Let's get to the golden age more quickly.
Let's get to the golden age. Boy, are let's get to the golden age boy but are we having
to play a lot of hop skip and jump boy i'm telling you it's making it hard for the people to stick
on this thing when it's or almost to dunktober and yeah these things you this is how life is man
hang in there hang in there folks and good luck on this 22 hour 220, but I got to go to bed too. Good night, my friends.
Good night, Mondo.
Good night, Mondo.
Good night.
Love it.
I'm popping down too, Edward, but I love chatting with you, man.
Always good to get to catch up, and what an awesome treat getting Mondo.
Now your uncle-cousin, Lee Potter here, is going to lay down the law.
But I'm bowing out dude i've been up too
many hours and i'm sure i'll be here too soon tomorrow sweet dreams cookies love it thanks
for keeping the energy up and being a great person and critical things are funny all the rest of it
well someone's got to kill the time out here it's not gonna kill itself
so you heard mondo that's not even real that's why it's so hard to kill but i'll catch y'all later
good night uh awesome and welcome lee to the stage how's it going
it goes man how are you doing ever oh really. I just woke up this morning about five minutes before the space started,
and I was like at a festival when I was younger. I guess like Glastonbury,
you just know the festival starts at 3 p.m. It's you wake up, and you're actually in the festival.
So, yeah, I love it. It's charging me up with energy.
I'm not quite awake, but I'm full of energy.
I'm not quite awake, but I'm full of energy. I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
So I'm trying to go where I wanted to bounce to.
But we'll talk about Teal a little bit.
Or with Palantir, you know, because they do a lot of stuff that, like, the government can't do by, like, you know,
they're not restricted by the Constitution because they're a private company, you know, kind of thing.
So they can do things that would be against the law that would take, like, a committee and all that would be against the law that would take like a committee and all that kind of stuff as far as
like surveillance and all that kind of stuff and so i worry about that like if we get to uh
i mean where they've got the programmable money if we have like i mean we keep hearing that the
dollar is shit i mean we know it is based on its purchasing power you know um you know so if they
use whatever it is you know they're willing to just turn off. So if they use whatever it is,
whether they can just turn off our money
if they don't like our, you know,
going against, like, I don't know,
demonstrating in favor of Palestine over Israel
or, you know, the right to be a state
or something like that.
And the lobby doesn't like it, you know,
and they just have them slant, you know,
turn off our money or something like that.
And of course, they believe in, I know he he's spoken both him and jd vance has
spoken on pre-crime in the past which is something like out of minority report
if you've ever watched that movie or whatever but that's just stuff like that kind of scares
me a little bit i mean i'm like so they're just rolling in fear but i mean it's just
you know and the other thing is like the i don't think that billionaires even think of us and
maybe some do but you know but i think we're you know what do they say what is the lion care of
the gazelle kind of thing besides the fact that it's tasty um you know it's so it's like uh so
our feelings don't really seem to come into, you know, into account or whatever.
And I can't remember the name of the guy that they kind of take their marching orders.
And that's the other thing, of course, is that, you know, Teal essentially, you know, groomed or whatever, you know, and got J.D. Vance into politics.
So, you know, they're going to be that close to that seat of power as well.
But, I mean, I think what the billionaires are all fighting over right now is just the money that's going to the defense
department they decided you know why shouldn't silicon valley get a big chunk of that you know
versus uh versus versus um you know the your standard defense contractors or whatever which
which by the way is you know like since a bunch of that stuff came out of JPL, Jet Propulsion Labs and all that kind of stuff, they definitely had their little Luciferian-type influence as far as how they lived their life or whatever.
But anyway, yeah, I mean, I know it's just business, and it's just, you know, conspiracy is just a group of like-minded people getting together to do business you know
but at what cost I guess
yeah and is it just business or is it complete power I take the point and I've heard different
people I think Birdman's a smart guy he said that like it's just about
money they're just trying to make money but there's a point when you make so much money
surely the thrill of closing a billion dollar deal isn't that high if you've already got 50 but
i'm already thinking if i could make a million dollars right like how many girlfriends could i
have there how could i like there's a point where i'll just be happy so and it's easy it's easy
to do to make a million you just start with two million and then you'll be down to a million but
um yeah but you know so i mean it's you know it's like i mean i remember uh what was it like elon
was like awarding himself contracts while doge was in there slashing I mean I was really hopeful at first when Doge came out I was going good you know but like what he went
after and yes the USA whatever it was that they went after was small time and I mean and yeah it
did have some CIA cut out stuff but it also had stuff they were I mean but what do you think soft
power is you know they're you know they're bribes or whatever you know to feed kids or you know what have you um
but the uh you know it's it's the um how was i going with that it's it's just like i said i mean
you know uh of course there's the uh the real id thing coming down at some point you know you know
and you know whether you have like some kind of of an online identity that everything is tied to us that way
which could technically
be the mark or whatever
where you couldn't buy and sell
or whatever for those people
that are overly concerned with Revelation
I remember from the
Bill Cooper book
it's like one of the first conspiracy books I got
and I still go back and look at it
but I remember early on it sat in with me where he was talking about
as far as like how they were going to do uh you know new world order the one world government
kind of thing was it was going to be either um it was going to be either it was either going to be
like uh jesus appearing as a uh as a hologram or whatever in the sky kind of thing and they were gonna like take the second
coming and which kind of made sense I mean because it was like at the time because it was if you look
at it it's like the like another book was real popular when I was like college age was one called
a clash of civilizations and was just setting us up up to go against Islam by Sam and Huntington.
And it was, but we haven't, you know, brought Islam to heal, if you will.
You know, and a lot of people, of course, you know, don't realize that, you know, Christ plays a part of the Islam faith as well with uh uh where i guess the the judging against the antichrist and
stuff which you know i don't i haven't studied islam very deep but i i was surprised to discover
he actually you know was beloved as opposed to like within judaism you know a lot of people
think he's he's uh boiling in his own and boiling an excrement in hell or something like that
but the uh but no so but the other the other
method they were going to use but they were going to go with an external threat and the ufo thing
which you know that is kind of you know burst onto the scene like this last year or so pretty heavily
you know so i don't know how they're going to do it you know but as far as like try to
clam down on things.
I mean, I'm always terrified of things like, not terrified, but I find it concerning that Bill Gates can just buy all the damn farmland up and all this other kind of stuff.
And it's like we don't even know how to grow a farmer anymore.
It takes generations to do something like that.
You know, so we're just at the mercy of whatever they put in our goddamn food.
You know, whether it's sawdust or rat poison, I don't care.
I mean, I'm just saying, you know, it's like they're not,
they're just gruel for the most part.
With some, you know, chip dust on it or whatever.
But, you know, chip dust on it or whatever. But, but, you know, and, and the other thing is, is as far as like evil in the world, I
mean, come on, I mean, this stuff, I mean, and we're still like covering up the Epstein
list, you know?
So it's like, I think the rape of children is evil.
I don't like children particularly, but, you know.
Yeah, you don't like them.
They hurt my ears.
I'm the oldest of seven, and so I've got, you know,
a shit ton of nephews and nieces, and it's just,
but it just, they hit a certain frequency
that can shatter my eardrums.
But I think child sacrifice is horrific you know so and i mean that's you know so but yeah so i
mean it's like it'll make your head explode i mean if you just sit there and and uh you know
try and chase every one of them or get fixated on it it's like you know yeah i keep i keep waiting
i mean like i keep waiting
to walk around the block and if i suddenly you know see a reptilian scarfing down a baby i'll
just be like yeah who knew you know ike was right good on him you know it's like you know but i mean
i know i know how they do things like as far as like information like limited hangout or whatever
so it's like you know if if that's you know and it could be that it's just a metaphor for lizard brain i have no idea but you know it's like you could have you
could you know you if if someone's got all this good work and then you see like david ike's name
in there it just immediately throw everything in the book out you know what i mean even though he
had done good stuff on bloodlines and done you know yada yada, yada. But, like, I mean, I've been following Whitney Webb.
I'm working my way through her books right now.
And I like her stuff.
And she talks about, like, with the Epstein thing, of course,
that, you know, even though the sex crimes are horrid,
you know, she goes, his monetary crimes were every bit as big
on a scale of what the uh of what the sex
crime stuff is but you know that's kind of they're just kind of focusing because there's a lot of
people around like i think jamie diamond first appears on the scenes you know when epstein's
getting hired you look at like epstein was hired by bill barr's father into his first job. And then, you know, then there's, you know, the, the,
it's, it's insane.
I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's a, you know,
way tighter knit group than I thought, but, but, you know,
I'm just, I'm just an old guy in Texas that likes NFTs.
So, you know.
It's interesting.
You said about the Bill Cooper book,
something about a pale horse, was it?
Behold a Pale Horse.
Sorry.
Yeah, Behold a Pale Horse.
Sorry, could you say it again?
I talked over you both times.
I'm sorry.
It's Behold a Pale Horse.
Behold a Pale Horse.
I've never read that, but...
So you're saying that the two things predicted was a holographic Jesus,
could be Project Bluebeam, or a fake, quote, real alien invasion.
It'd be real to people's mind, right?
If they did a fake alien invasion, people thought it was real.
It would become real in the same way maybe dinosaurs are fake is real or dinosaurs are real is real.
But an alien invasion, and I agree with you that they've been ramping up maybe or maybe it's
actually happening that would be another one perhaps a real alien invasion will happen
like at the time that they were an elite were planning a fake one it is possible too but
i probably shouldn't say that because it will play into the hands of the people that might
plan it but uh so yeah they've been ramping up the alien talk, haven't they, the last year?
Ashton Forbes, teleportation is real, is one.
It's a bit weird, like teleportation, MH370.
Then all the Joe Rogan people, they're all saying, you know, maybe UFOs are real then.
And I could just see that happening because the War of the Worlds Right was awesome wells
and it was like
just a simple radio broadcast
and they
either they did it or it was a test
or whatever
but I could fully see them
trying to do it on social media
like a fake Jesus or
a UFO lens
I mean
that would hypnotized people.
So it could be very dangerous.
So yeah, thanks for saying that.
Yeah.
And then there's, you know, there's a, there's a course like, you know,
the, the Charlie Kirk stuff happened, you know, right.
As you know, right.
As Tucker was getting ready to have his big, you know, 9-11 program,
you know, who had, who had kind of a, you know, as tucker was getting ready to have his big you know 9 11 program you know who had who had kind of a you know come to jesus jesus moment on things like building seven and
the official story just being horseshit you know um a lot of that you know so it was like it's it's
it i mean i just i wish people would stay focused but i mean it's like i i also believe you know
the country is like taking some serious hits i mean like you know kennedy was before it was that was six years
before i was born or whatever but but the uh but the thing like you know so so 9-11 was just i mean
the country definitely has ptsd from that you know and then you know as it's starting to look like
israel had such a huge part in that thing i mean i know there were a lot of weird exercises going on in the united states that went live um is what they were calling
it but that's why they had like uh all the all there was no there were no flights or there were
no fighter cover or anything like that anywhere near the nation's capital or new york city and uh
on that day and it was just and so when people were getting like messages or
whatever like I guess news messages were coming in about you know hijackers and one of the things
one of the air traffic controllers said something like is this live or an exercise and you know kind
of thing so it's but anyway yeah yeah that but that but so that that
traumatized the country and the country got ptsd real bad and then just decided that you know
is islam was just inherently evil and it didn't have to be that way you know but uh and a lot of
that a lot of that was helped you know from somebody we send a whole bunch of money to every year you know
around the year um it likes to get us into in the wars so you know but but the uh the um
the whole i mean so it's like i mean bb netanyahu has been calling for uh um any of the countries
around him are six minutes away from completing their nuclear program or whatever it's like come on you know just it's not happening it's been going on for
20 years but but we're still doing stupid shit over there in their name and you know our name
because we're taking advantage of people's faith um and just ramping it up you know that was one
of my favorite things when tucker carlson i'm not i'm not a right winger at all, but it's like I got the biggest kick out of him dragging, you know, Ted Cruz over the coals who didn't know anything about Iran.
And he's like, you don't know anything about the country you want to bomb?
You don't know the population of them?
You know, you don't know any of this kind of stuff.
And so we've been had.
And so we've been had.
I mean, it's like, you know, the country is not into, like, starving children and leveling Gaza, you know.
I said there's a great meme out, by the way, today I saw it.
It had a picture of the Twin Towers and said, if this is terrorism, why isn't this?
And it just showed, you know, completely.
There's no, it's over, like, 98% of the buildings have been destroyed in fucking Gaza.
But, you know, anyway, so.
So we can turn it into a.
Vegas or whatever it is on the rear air kind of thing in the middle of.
OK, sure.
You know, but.
You're going to have some bad karma attached to that for sure.
I wish we could do more for the Palestinians and just, you know, say, hey, you, karma is going to swing your way.
It's like, no, that's kind of, that's kind of all we've got, you know, thoughts and prayers over here.
Fuck.
But, yeah, sorry.
Yeah, I saw there like, I don't know,
I think an Irish MMA fighter fighting
an Israeli MMA fighter as a clip.
And he was sort of like the look in the Irish guy's eye,
he was actually almost saying in the fight,
like, you know, stop the genocide or whatever.
And the Israeli fighter was like trying to defend himself.
But so it almost feels like there's uh the attention that the sort of
the fight for the Garzan people is appearing in forms of live media or live sport or things people
say after live sport or t-shirts people wear and things like that and I'm fully with you I mean it
just looks like genocide evil genocide that was planned uh yeah whoever and you know the ghazan people are the victims of it
right and i mean you know and it's it's k you know and all their all the all the all the propaganda
that's come out you know well people forgetting uh bb was in the un like uh um was it like two
or three days before the sixthth showing off the greater Israel plan
or the blessing or the
not so good thing
if it didn't happen
and it's just increasing
their borders kind of bullshit
but the
and then
I think that's been pretty well proven
because it was in
Israeli newspapers even the day after the attack.
It was like, well, your dog finally bit you.
Because I mean, the whole, the reason Hamas even rose up was they were being funded by the Israeli government.
I want to say through the Qataris.
But the whole deal was like, you know, it was because the PLO had kind of, they kind of, they were, well, first of all, they were secular.
And they just kind of, they were finally like ready to break for peace, you know.
And it was like, okay, fine, you know, pick whatever borders from whatever year.
Just let's stop this.
We're getting nowhere, you know.
And so they needed a religious group, which is what Hamas was supposed to be.
And in that way, you know, I could say, I don't have a partner for peace over here.
We have to go with the one state, you know.
So, yeah, I mean, it's just, it's all nonsense.
But I noticed that they've been ramping up stuff again, too, with talking about another attack.
So that's what I was trying to say earlier.
I'm sorry.
I get high and forget my train of thought at times.
But the Laura Loomer, and I'm trying to remember who else was the other one.
But they're coming out going, yeah, look for an attack.
You know, look for another attack coming sometime probably within six weeks.
And she just hates Islam.
You know, that's her whole deal.
And I've heard that she kind of laughs at, like, the whole Jewish thing, but whatever.
I mean, she's their person.
So as far as, like, the representative and the propaganda war that we're kind of all in the middle of.
But, you know, so it's like if something and i know that whitney uh webb has talked about this and who i like a lot and like i
said i've been working my way through her book but uh um she talks about the fact that you know
it might be something in the form of cyber so that's how they slam and bring in like the real
id and all this other kind of stuff you know some kind of attack where they got something crashes or whatever and uh and she goes look for this look for the usual suspects
you know we'll blame it on probably north korea or iran would be real convenient since israel
wants us to bomb them again so um but you know it's it's like but you know it's that whole hegelian
dialectic where it's a problem reaction solution kind of thing and and so um you know know, it's that whole Hegelian dialectic where it's a problem, reaction, solution kind of thing.
And so, you know, it's like, I hope we have time.
I mean, I've always been skeptic enough to where I thought that they're never going to, if the crypto thing actually wound up having any serious, serious value to it, they'd never let us have it. You know, it would be one of those things where it's like they need us to they need us to go break it in prove it test it you know figure it out because they aren't the smartest people
just because they're in the lucky sperm club doesn't mean anything to me you know but uh
they don't deserve my respect you know nearly as much as gooey or you know people that lead
in this in this community you know um people that want to do things for you know spend money on you know but but uh but
that's beside me the last thing i want to do is give money to you know uh what do you know he
named him uh devos um richard devos the guy that started amway you know it's like his daughter-in-law
is uh the uh former secretary of education and under trump that betsy do us um and then her brother of
course is eric prince so yeah the anyway fortune is uh being used uh for things my parents remember
that thing as well so um we used to go to old conventions and everything else where they sing
songs about the corner sisters or whatever and we're so excited blah blah blah and we've got like 15 different soaps
for the kitchen
you know so
sorry about that
but anyway yeah I ramble on
I'm sorry I will let you go
I just
wanted to get that out there I mean like I said it's
I mean the elites
we're problems and that's why they give us shit like
bread and circuses, but you know, like the
Romans used to, so divide and conquer.
That's my thing. I mean,
that's really my one thing, is I think
we need to get over
this culture war shit
so we can get on with the class war that we
need to have.
Because what was his name?
The Oracle of Omaha.
I can't even give the name.
Brookshire Hathaway guy.
He's talked about the fact that, you know,
there is a class war going on in my side's winning.
You know, so.
I mean, he said that, like, I want to say 15 years ago.
Maybe longer.
But anyway, that's all I've got.
I love it.
I love your, you say it's rambling, or is it a wise man is revealing great truths?
That's what it sounds like to me.
So don't be afraid to ramble.
Like, it's important to, like, because you sound honest, like what you're saying, you know, it's always, and that doesn't always come across in a key.
And that doesn't always come across in a key part of the way.
I think that's one of the things about live media spaces, WebRTC, which I think is the great decentralized thing that's happened, even above Bitcoin, in fact.
But just one thing you said that really stood out was if these tools were that revolutionary, they, as in the elite, if there is one, wouldn't let us have it.
I.e., is bitcoin and things like that a
tool for free what's your thought on that i mean i can swing both ways my own opinion is that bitcoin
is the true revolution in a sense and it came out of left field it built organically and etc and i'm
not against it possibly it's part of the control grid, but my feeling is it's not. It feels like it's the exception. But yeah, I'm curious of your thoughts on that.
Well, I mean, I think, I think, I think whatchamacallit, the, the, I, I, you know, I, I can't think of that guy's name. Fink, the guy at, oh hell, BlackRock or wherever it is.
Larry Sink?
Yeah,
I mean,
yeah,
yeah,
thank you.
good name,
but,
apropos,
at least the last surname is,
but the,
the,
just opinion,
of course.
the,
I don't know.
I mean,
it's like,
I mean,
cause he's talked about the various problems. I mean, I know it's a store of value and I know it's, you know, it's like, I mean, because they've talked about the various problems.
I mean, I know it's a store of value, and I know it's, you know, there's the whole deal with, like, the gold, you know, where it's like, you know, it doesn't, you can't really, you know, so I guess it didn't do the things they wanted to do initially.
And then they said, but then they were like, okay, well, it's a store of value.
but then they're like, okay, well, it's a store of value.
It's digital gold.
Okay, cool, fine.
You know,
I mean, it's,
I think it works sort of, but I mean,
you know, it's like,
I have expected to see the,
you know, first of all,
and this is one of those things that happened like in the last
couple of years. I know that they had,
you know, like, so, and I
also listen to Richardard wolf is an
economist that i think is kind of interesting um but uh you've got things like the uh the fact that
uh i mean the american empire is you know contracting i mean it's it's falling apart
you know somewhat i mean it's like i mean it's all we do is you know guns for the most part you know and export them you know if
you look at like the way the NATO stuff works and everything but but the but um the other thing was
the petrodollar and uh they had I want to say it was about a year and a half ago maybe it was right
after like the Russia Ukraine thing kind of kicked off but you had where uh india paid russia for oil and rupees you know which which goes around
the petrodollar and then you also had the uh saudis i want to say cancel it so i mean there's
got to be something that i mean first of all they didn't spend you know 50 plus years you know
building that thing i mean we attack people that go after the petrodollar you know um that that
that fuck with it you know i mean that's that's
been the main thing i mean like the cia's first operation was like i want to say it was a labor
organization down in central america with the united fruit which is now chiquita banana but uh
you know all those all those guys all those guys um in the cia that you came out of like the office
of strategic services like the wild bill harryman Bill Harriman and the Dulles Brothers and all that, you know, on this side of the pond, they, I mean, they're all fucking Wall Street bankers.
They're not like Brown Brothers Harriman, you know, I'm trying to look at the other firms, but, but yeah, so I mean, you know, it's, it's like most of the CIA guys were, you know, bankers of some sort, you know, and it's like most of the CIA guys were bankers of some sort.
And then so our concern is like with American multinationals that are having trouble with some pesky whatever.
But whether it's a labor thing or whether it's we want to open a globe.
thing or whether it's, you know, we, we want, we want to open a goal. I mean, like, yes, I mean,
I know, I know Washington, like when he, before he left office and he's not my, he's a popular
president and everything else, but you know, he's got his own issues, but the, they all do.
History is just such a, you know, written by the winner's bullshit kind of thing. But, but the,
you know, the, so Washington warned about, you know, treaties and foreign entanglements, you
know? And so I know that
they had things like for example there was like a Canadian gold mine company that was like smashing
something down in South America or no it was it was in it was in no it was in Arizona I'm sorry
and and they had the thing but it was like um they were in the community it said you know we don't
want there was there was something you know like I said, some kind of regulation they needed out of the way.
And what happens is, like, it was a NAFTA court.
Is it NAFTA? Is that what it was called? The thing between North America free traders?
Yeah, that's the one with Canada, America, and Mexico.
And so there's certain rules in that court that, you know, Trump got this thing thrown out anyway.
And it's like, okay, son of a bitch, we got, you know, our own, you know, Trump got this thing thrown out anyway. It was like, OK, son of a bitch. We got our own.
You know, you can't get in the way of business.
And and like I said, you know, they've they've fought.
They fought so hard to create, you know, whether it's the Fed, you know, let's put in, you know, if you've read the Jekyll Island book.
And that's the Rothschild, I guess.
But the but but that thing is still in place you know
the fed and then you got like i said the petrodollar was where they would attack you but
like i also know saudi told us to go stick it they're not going to uh uh renew the petrodollar
or whatever that was this year also but but the but the uh but they didn't they didn't spend all
this time you know creating you know fortress of amer creating Fortress of America and this financial system to just give it up without any kind of a fight.
So I guess that's what kind of sparked them over to the USDC coins or whatever, the stable coins or whatever it is.
And, you know, of course, the people that are the loudest about Bitcoin were the early adopters, the ones that got lucky and bought first, you know.
And so they're real, real loud about it.
But, you know, I haven't heard.
So I would think because I know that a lot of companies were doing what is a really roundabout way to try and answer your question.
But a lot of companies trying to do like what what uh
oh what's his name michael uh sailor was doing with his stuff you know just getting it on their
balance sheet so it's like um and it's it's i don't know what they i don't even know what sailors guys do i know they sell some kind of suite of tools but but what it is i mean it's
mainly just a bitcoin storage deposit right depository or something like that but but what it is i mean it's mainly just a bitcoin storage deposit right
deposit or something like that but but you know it's it's that would be a big one i mean that
would be one of the ones that kind of has to fall like i you know i could see somebody getting half
baked and just going yeah we should just nationalize that company and just seize that Bitcoin. You know, but, you know, I don't know.
I mean, I think because I think, like, I feel like the crypto thing that the Trump kids are running or whatever is based on, what, like the 2017 bull run or whatever, maybe?
Or whatever it was with the
whenever whenever the bull was but but i mean we're in ripple was you know that's the only
reason i can figure that out that they're even around and in the discussion you know with with
these other people but but i i don't know i mean i don't i know people are putting it on their books
i would i would like to know somebody that's actually been down to Costa Rica.
I don't know how something like that.
But like I said, if it was something that could really, really hurt them, the elites, they would not be sharing it with us.
But like I said, I don't think they're, just because you're born into some name,
you know, doesn't make you smarter than anybody else.
You know, just some, I mean, just some, some,
a percentage of them, or I would assume are relatively smart,
but, you know, the ones that will,
if you've looked at like any of the NFL owners infl owners and and in my country and you know as far
as like these football teams and see the uh like the the legacy ones like i guess there's uh
the guy that owns the raiders is al davis's kid and and but yeah they look like somebody in their
family knew somebody else in their family i mean they just look inbred as fuck and uh maybe they're
not maybe maybe but you know it's like uh the coke brothers that were
really big here at one point in american politics i remember i remember they were showing their son
because and the guy was doing this little there was this little fluff piece and he goes my dad
told me as long as i had a job that i would just be happy yeah i wouldn't worry about money i would
i would just be happy you. So do something you love.
Well, his business that he started,
and like I said, they were controlling paper mills
and just all kinds of stuff.
But his business was,
he was making Hawaiian shirts with bags of money on them
with the dollar sign.
That was his big design.
I was like, okay, this guy's a fucking idiot. But he was that close his big design you know it was like okay this guy's a fucking idiot but but you
know he's that close to you know that much money and i don't know anyway um this is not the thing
that crypto people like to hear i'm sure but i i just you know i you know i would i think they
would find some way where well you'll have to have some kind of a digital thumbprint to access the internet you know in the interest of uh in the interest of both commerce and um
you know they've got they've got the the various uh what do you call them the the laws like you
know the i mean they're coming after free speech that's's the main, I mean, and it's because you can't say shit about Israel over here.
Well, you know, I know in Texas, they've got our governors like try to say anybody takes part in boycott, divest, and sanction.
We'll not be able to get a government job contract, you know.
So, yeah, thanks.
But,
anyway,
that's,
that's,
I wish I had a better answer for you.
I mean,
and,
you know,
I mean,
it's Bitcoin's not that decentralized just based on the fact that the amount of
power it takes,
right?
I mean,
it's,
it's the miners.
I mean, it's, it. I mean, it's not...
The graphics card, I guess.
You have to have the top graphics card,
and even then, you only own
such a tiny percentage of
the network that it's controlled by a few
mining farms.
Right, I mean, if they decide they want to shut
it off, I mean, I would think if they...
Don't they have the... if you get to the majority, can't they vote to change the code or do whatever the fuck they want?
I don't know. I fortunately missed a lot of Richard Hart stuff because I got into the game late and, you know, was not just hanging on his every word. So, but I thought, you know, I know he would say,
talk about spaghetti code or whatever, but I mean, don't they just don't,
I mean, if they get to a certain, and I read a book on the block size war, um,
but if they get to, if they get to a certain number of miners that are in agreement, can they just roll things back or refork something else?
Basically, yeah, because I think a more sort of maybe less obvious
but more obvious attack vector is just the people who update the code.
So even before mining farms and that,
what if they just put a minus one in the Bitcoin code and update it one day and everything goes wrong and people
Are what's happened? And it's all the people who actually update the Bitcoin code that there's like four of them and
There was this one interview with Peter McCormack
Was the head of what Bitcoin did podcast and he's now branched off into
talking less about Bitcoin, but he had this girl who's allegedly one
of the sort of like the the people that update the code basically and it was a a sort of i don't
really know how to say it but like a fairly young chinese-american girl and i just thought i mean
there's nothing wrong with that i mean she was like about 25 but it just didn't it struck me as a bit strange and i thought well what if
she's what if they i don't let's here's a attack vector who updates the bitcoin code well what sort
of sexual preference do they have like like for sure how do you want to take over cheer music well
what's edward's favorite sort of hot girl well he's into this well let's just surround him with
them get them to throw themselves
at him and before you know it like they'll be sort of making decisions for cheer music so
like what about just the bitcoin code being updated who does that i really don't know
but and then yeah mining farms are sort of centralized but i don't think it was designed
that way from the white paper at least it seems that the goal was
people's computer would do it and that sort of technological changes caused bitcoin's mining to
be centralized more than the plan i think like bitcoin feels to me like it came out of left field
and through one way or another that the elites have tried to take it over roger veer's book hijacking
bitcoin he said that there was a coup in message boards basically in like 96 sorry 2016 2017
michael saylor buying it all up at what point do you have too much bitcoin like and also if you're
rich like michael saylor right like why do you more? I mean to make more money fair enough, but
Like is it that looks to me like he's just buying up the Bitcoin so that it's not on the market
And if you've got almost infinite money, then it isn't that hard to buy all the Bitcoin up over time
And so I sort of feel like Bitcoin is
The real solution, but the elites have targeted it in as many ways as they can
bearing in mind they can't turn it off so yeah that's that's the way i thought about it but
well i mean the other thing is um um i mean you know like you know like i said you know would
the government confiscate it or would they confiscate your silver? I know silver's doing a weird thing right now.
We've had banking holidays in America before.
They did that.
They took everybody's gold when Roosevelt first got to fucking office.
Had a banking holiday, I believe is what they called it.
So then the only thing you were allowed to own was you couldn't own currency, but you could own, as far as gold went, but you could own collectible coins, if I remember.
That's how the thing got worded or something like that.
But, you know, so it's like, I mean, they may come for all of it.
You know, so I, you know, I mean, the KYC a there's a guy that makes phones that rob braxton
he's really dry so it's like it may be too inside base and i mean it's technically over my head a
lot but he was talking about a third party uh sideways views there's something like with this
apple thing they're gonna do it in the name of the children but there's some some bill coming up over
in europe right now um but and so what he
was talking about for example and this ties into like the idea of the surveillance state you know
or surveillance capitalism um but like i think i saw where the uh they were talking about the new
the new iphone the actual phone itself is like in the bump and then the uh the the rest of it's just
battery or whatever you know know, kind of thing.
I heard Drack and them talking about that a little bit. But so, you know, it's like, has anybody else noticed this?
Like, I mean, I just got a computer, I want to say about six months ago,
and it's the first time I've had an actual, like, desktop or whatever,
and, you know, or anything other than a damn
what do you call them?
first one had anything other than like a Chromebook or a
tablet in over a decade, you know, kind of thing.
it's, the thing
is constantly doing screenshots
now. I mean, it's
non-stop to to i guess share with
whoever so they can optimize your system but but so they were talking about i um
so with this if this bill goes in to where it's like it it's it's one of the things where your
phone's just constantly and i mean like there's that naomi brockwell who talks about security a lot and everything else in the end people getting on to like fos type apps you
know getting away from google play store i mean and even still they were talking about like the
there's still things like your phone will do no matter what if you got out of the play store and
went to like you know like i said uh public apps and and uh or free and whatever it was, FOSS
but if you went to that
there was still like some little underlying
thing in your phone that would rat your ass out
kind of thing and identify you
and so
I mean it's like
I mean people talk about
like with the KYC
thing and
I've been on a site or two,
but I mean, I've noticed that they're talking,
the adult sites are sitting there going,
KYC is a scam, and it's like,
and you're into small government, eh?
How do you like the fact they're going to know
what your porn search was, or any search was?
You know what I mean?
So if you sit there and hit something that uh
that is not you know approved of uh you know the state you know i mean it's like
i mean do we turn into a kafka novel you know we're getting black you know that was bad enough
with the 9-11 um you know the stuff the fisa courts i mean not the fisa courts the uh
you know, the FISA courts.
I mean, not the FISA courts.
The, you know, they were called FISA courts, right?
But, you know,
they couldn't even tell
that they had been picked up on charges
to anybody. It was against the law from people to tell
about that, you know, which is just,
you know,
so, you know,
a lot of the stuff is kind of terrible.
So that's what i was starting to say
and i'll try and finish i'll try and make it to the goal and then that way i'll get the hell out
of the way but the uh but so like you've got 9-11 which gave everybody ptsd i mean everybody can
talk about where they were that day what they were doing yada yada you know what i mean it's it's for
the most part um unless we're talking about something that's like 21 or something like that.
But, you know, so, I mean, they can all kind of, you know, I mean, so that was like the first kind of blow to the American psyche that set us off on this, you know, war thing, get them, get them.
And, you know, and then we had the fucking lockdown we found out that
we couldn't be isolated either you know and i can't remember it was like amnesty international
somebody took them took a look at like what all was being done during covid and that's exactly on
that's exactly how you break a person um i happen to have uh kind of gotten into walking at the time
because my dad had died and the way I was dealing with that was uh
I was just walking till like the grief that was in my heart had been like passed onto my legs and
I wound up from being like a couch potato to walking like 6,000 kilometers in a calendar year
um which was just that still astounds me astounds me but but um but yeah it was it was because i was playing a stupid game it was a
game called uh ingress i-n-g-r-e-s-s and it's it's the backbone for the uh this is something i
don't know anything about really because i'm not i'm not of that age group i was already out of
school and you know when that stuff came out but it's the backbone that the pokemon go game is built on um and so uh it was you know
it's still all the same same points and everything so but but but yeah the english thing was like
capture the flag and sand castles mixed together and you actually had like teams i mean people
could play together they could play individually and it was a fun game but it uh and it was owned by google um uh they're uh
niantic i guess is the little uh startup startup that they spun out of there but but uh
under alphabet or whatever but the um yeah so it was it was it was a fun game but i mean so i just
walked a ton but people that were and you know i knew people that were
just dying stuck in their homes i mean just you know because we're very social creatures anyway
but uh you know so so but so that that so that to me i think that was the second thing that really
hit us really fucking hard as far as the american um you know and between i want to say probably
between those two events,
I think that's where some of the black pill shit comes from, sort of.
I mean, as far as like people just turning into total nihilists or whatever, you know.
Whatever this next one is, I don't think America can really handle it.
They've got us so divided against each other right now.
Like I said, I wish we could get over the culture war because it's over bullshit.
You know, it's just nonsense.
But to me, but, uh, I mean, like if you're anti-gay marriage, don't get gay married.
That's a real simple solution to me.
You know, that's just, that's, I have to tell my mom that all the time.
I'm like, mom mom how's it your business
who cares you don't have they're not going to school your grandkids your grandkids are out of
high school now so so i don't know what the game you know i don't know how to tell her that i'm
probably gonna move with a gay guy to um uh there's an army buddy of mine with him to new
mexico just get the fuck out of texas at some point and so and and it's like he's got a husband you know i'm not gay but i need a i need a ride
and and i'll be i'll gladly clean their fucking pool or whatever they got going on in new mexico
um but it's just you know it's you know what is it i'm not gonna shake anybody's i'm not gonna
shake a gay guy's hand why i mean dicks have been in there i don't know you know how is it i'm not going to shake anybody's i'm not going to shake a guy's hand why
how many dicks have been in there i don't know you know how many times my dick has touched my hands
you know it's like just you know cool slow your roll you know um you know try not to hate you
know it's like i get it i mean i i can't i can't make you know you mentioned uh uh peter what was what was his last name you said from the what bitcoin did uh pete mcormack
yeah it is is lynn allen part of his group i'm not sure i've not heard of him before
there's a there's a trans girl that talks on on she seems really really smart lin lin alden was
it i have all been okay sorry yeah so i mean you know i got no problem
i don't you know i don't know i mean i think they got a little excited maybe with the you're you're
insulting me and and you're you're um you you misgender my pronouns or it's like
okay i'm sorry you know forgive me uh uh uh you know, forgive me.
You know, you're in the old south. We're not very fucking, you know, up on the latest trends.
So, yeah, get over it. You know what I mean? But it's
yeah, I think part of that probably comes from
being able to, you know, hide behind a keyboard anonymously.
You knowously and be
cat turd or
whatever your name is.
You've all been screwed.
That's the whole thing.
We're supposed to be yelling
at each other instead of realizing who it is.
It's stomping on our fucking heads.
I think they pictured this revolution from the fact the world would be communicating by keyboard and like AI administered news.
The thing that I think that apart from Bitcoin, the thing they were and WebRTC, perhaps more than even Bitcoin.
I think the thing they didn't plan for was the long form conversation, Joe Rogan-style interview.
Right.
I wonder if that is also the third point of the revolution,
basically Joe Rogan, but the concept of what Joe Rogan has done.
I don't know.
Maybe it would be hard to visualize that if you were planning a takeover 100 years ago,
that some people would just be in the mainstream media.
He snuck through, it seems, that concept.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, I mean, the, fuck,
I mean, it's like, for example,
I don't think all vaccines are bad, you know,
but it's like, yeah, I got the one.
I got the one from Pfizer and I got the, it was a two part and I never, I never went back and got the booster.
I'm hoping that that and just the amount of copious amounts of drugs I've done as a musician or something will, you know, help counteract that.
Or it's why I didn't die of the plague or whatever the fuck it is i had
you know i got the uh the delta variant which just beat the absolute living dog shit out of
me for a long time i mean like 10 weeks you know kind of thing but but uh you know i mean and
that's coming back around again apparently you know i mean i mean as far as like their time to
see them talking about that so it's like yeah you know i i know that like there's the talk of like for example after they get the third
booster that you know boom that's when the autism kicks in you know and stuff and it's like and yeah
and i know that they've done uh what the hell is it called um you know they have squalene or
whatever it is it's in the damn vaccines in mercury, you know, and it's like, okay, you know, it's not good.
And, you know, don't you guys want to actually put this thing to rest?
I don't know, come out with a better one.
I mean, I know they're using the same strains of, what do they call that?
The gene change where I guess do various things.
But, I mean mean it's like
do better but i mean it's like i don't i i mean i i don't think uh you know like like uh who is it
oh do you know jamie johnson is here's a good conspiracy one for you did you ever see the one
percent or born rich he's he's the heir to the johnson and johnson fortune no not heard of that yeah that's uh born rich is like man whatever but
the one percent was pretty interesting to me but it was like yeah it's it's like it shows him and
his cameraman and they're being obnoxious tools but it's like the uh the people you did get to take a look at like his family and it's like the
uh it's real interesting i mean as far as like them you know bursting onto the scene with the
camera and he's like hi dad and he's answering questions and his his dad and of course the
financial advisor who is not rich but it's probably making really good money advising them
but you know he's he's the one that's like the the the asshole the one that has to come over and be who is not rich, but is probably making really good money advising them.
But he's the one that's like the asshole,
the one that has to come over and be the goon.
Dad's just like, I can't talk to him, kind of thing.
And then that guy's over here just trying to run him off and everything else.
But I mean, it's like they were saying,
like one of the neighbors, one of the friends was like,
what do you do?
He goes, oh, I'm making a movie. They're like, what about it? And he's like, money. And I'm like, oh, how wonderful.
And then he was talking about a podcast. Like, what's a podcast?
It's like when George Bush, senior
president number 41, when they showed him in the
freaking checkout line at a grocery store, was a political op you know side of bullshit you know and and uh he was completely
fucking not bewildered but was just in awe and awe of the freaking scanner you know she's like
running canned vegetables through it he just thought that was the neatest thing he'd ever
seen well yeah of course because he doesn't do his own shopping for food none of those fuckers do you know what i mean it's like they they pay
less for people to go to the household chores you know so um i don't think they think a lot of us
but you know whatever that's fine you know i just i yeah i just i just i i i'm hoping that they just
missed on because i'm like you know it's like you start to see some of these things
like the, as we were
heading into 9-11, they were talking about, they were
saying it's a lot easier now to detect like when
the plane hits the building where the wing
goes forward and that's just something on
the, you know, it's, there's better editing
stuff out there now so you can actually spot some of
the fakes and everything.
But I mean, you know, we were traumatized.
I mean, and the other thing was they killed Kennedy everything but i mean you know we were traumatized i did i mean and the
other thing was they killed kennedy in plain sight you know yeah um charlie kirk they killed him in
plain sight you know it's like there's a lot of stuff that you can't go watch but boy we got to
see that blood spray for a long time yeah for the jfk one i of the things, one of the bits of evidence that's, I think, important to consider is Zapruder.
Zapruder, the person that filmed the thing, he's actually a Freemason, and he's 33rd degree Freemason, which the 33 Act, I think, I realized in the draft space yesterday with Bradley's uh Chia said they delayed the thing from 33 act to the 40 and I'm
not saying that they're linked to the 33 number but it's 33 comes up a lot but uh Zapruder was
a freemason at that level so it got me thinking either it's coincidence he was why did how many
people had a camera that in those days and it got me thinking maybe they didn't want to
assassinate kennedy maybe they wanted to film assassinating kennedy for the reason you're saying
trauma more than sort of removing oh yeah and to keep control i mean that's that was a bill hicks
joke peace be upon uh peace be upon that comic i miss him so much but where he was talking about
the you know bringing the you know welcome
in mr president-elect and you sit down you're watching the uh you realize you're watching the
kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before and then it's over and they just go
any questions it's like nope what's my agenda you know so so i love that hicks was great and like i
said like i said boy it boy, Carlin looks just...
I mean, I always thought he was a genius anyway.
But it's like he tried telling us about a bunch of this stuff.
So, you know.
Those two lines, you know, from those two quote-unquote comedians, both very funny.
Bill Hicks was, I thought, the funniest.
But those two lines, like they show you the JFK
assassination from another, and then George Carlin's, it's a big club and you ain't in it.
You couldn't brand a better line that's stuck in the consciousness. And it's interesting that
they're essentially not even funny lines. They kind of are, but there is a punchline in it. Well,
I suppose it is with Bill Hicks' line, but it's not exactly a punchline.
It's more of a what if kind of thing.
And the fact that those lines have been left over by those can,
like the number of people that have been woken up by those lines,
especially the Carlin one, because it's straight to the point a bit more,
you know it's a big club and you wait in it it's so so perfect well that whole that whole bit that
you know, it's a big club and you wait in it.
It's so, so perfect.
he does is massive i mean it's yeah he talks about the fact that there's you know i mean like uh i
remember him doing it for uh he he did it for one um he talked to you know he was way into language
you know what i mean you know and uh and so he would sit there and talk he he had a bit like a long time ago where you talk about you
know world war one it was shell shock uh world war two it was battle fatigue uh uh i don't remember
what it was by the time we got to vietnam but you know and then you know i get probably ptsd but
he was talking about you know he was like soften the words, we soften what's going on. And, you know, it doesn't sound nearly as bad, you know,
and it's like, if we leave them like they are, instead of softening them, maybe
people would get the fucking help they need to, you know,
if it was still called shell shock, you know, kind of thing.
But I don't know. I mean, it's like I said, you know,
we've, you know, I realize things like we don't know. I mean, like I said, I realize things like
we don't have a draft. We have a volunteer
army, except it's an economic draft. People
are pushed into it.
I mean, there's all these
different things that come out on the wars
and everything else, and it's just like, what's
the mission? Why are we doing any of this?
I think I saw where Trump
said today
that, you know,
if Afghanistan
didn't give Bagram Air Force Base
back, there'd be hell to pay.
Wait, I'm sorry, you want to restart
the fucking
Afghanistan?
It's like, are you out of
your mind?
But I know he's just up for the Epstein files that haven't come out.
And what he doesn't realize, I don't know if he's just too dumb or if it's just, I don't know.
It doesn't matter to me.
But he is such a cult of personality.
He is such a cult of personality.
If he was banging young chicks in the Epstein files, which it feels like there's probably some of that, you know, he certainly wasn't there as an FBI agent, as an informant.
It's like, wait, what?
But so it's like, you know, he's like I said, he's got such a following that they would forgive him this one, you know.
You know, just lie it down and say it was just one.
You know, I've seen things where they talked about Epstein kind of tried to model his operation on what Trump had going with his, what do they call them, beauty pageant kind of stuff.
So, you know, but, you know, it's, but yeah, the 1% is pretty good.
If you haven't done the Whitney Webb books, I think you'd find them interesting.
It was, what is it called? One Nation Under Blackmail.
And it's a two-volume set.
Volume two is about the Epstein stuff.
But volume one is about building the networks
that were required for Epstein to even be able to exist,
you know, kind of thing.
You know, and a lot of it was just,
it was during World War II, you know kind of thing you know and a lot of it was just it was uh during during
during world war ii you know they took an in lost enlisted the mob you know hello lucky luciano the
guy that supposedly did murder incorporate although i think it actually minor landscape
was the one behind that but it was talking about they you know so so so to guard our harbors or
whatever you know like on the east coast you know it it's like they deputized the freaking Italian mob, you know.
And you had government and criminals working together.
And then by the end of World War II, I was like, but we've got these good connections.
And then the CIA would sometimes use them for their operations and blah, blah, blah.
and blah blah blah and it was just markets for these you know another market for the uh
for the um for the for the uh for the bankers that were now cia people or whatever you know
but uh oh there's also a good book called uh global networks i recommend that one highly
if you can find a first edition of that um it's it's about it's an artist he'd been he was from austin and uh he uh
he took and did a thing it was just a follow the money kind of thing and i can't think of
the guy's name now to save my life but it was just they would look like weather patterns if
he was just tracing and so i mean he would have things and they're like uh the pope and his
bankers you know would be with the name of one of them. Or, uh, uh, I think he's got like, uh, Bush and, uh,
for the nine 11 thing, you've actually got to like Bush and, uh, Oh,
let's see. Um, um, uh, the guy that was,
it was, that's so embarrassing. I'm playing, I said,
I'm getting older than any senior moments. Who's the guy that, uh,
that led to, that was public enemy number one for the Arabs?
For ISIS or whatever the base?
Why can't I think of his name?
It's not Mohammed bin Salman.
That's the guy that's in charge of fucking Saudi Arabia
that likes to cut up journalists with bone saws.
What is that?
Bin Laden.
Jesus Christ.
Right. It shows you how much is going on when bin laden doesn't
like roll off the tongue oh yeah i mean it was like in fact when when i saw a member of these
kids came around up they're like hey did you hear we just heard we got bin laden and i'm just like
yeah okay whatever it's like i was that big of a cynic by that point because I was just sick of this nonsense,
never-ending war shit.
We couldn't take fucking... We couldn't leave our shoes on to get on a fucking plane.
You know, kind of thing.
It was just a bunch of bullshit for no good reason.
I mean, it's like I don't feel safe based on the, was it TPS,
what are they called, the people that run security for the airports?
Well, I can't think of them because I haven't flown in years, so that's why.
But anyway, it's like, so yeah, when some
kid was really excited, I mean, he looked like
I busted his balloon at the parade or
whatever, when I wasn't doing a
handspring, I'm like, I'm too old to do handsprings
and I just don't give a shit
right now, it's like, how did they get
him? I'm guessing somebody took and
drove in and opened the trunk that
he'd been in after they took him out of whatever
cold storage they had him in for the last three, five years,
whatever it was, you know, but because they found him where,
like where, where Pakistan's fucking West Point equivalent was,
or their Langley or something like that. You know, it's like,
Pakistan's one of those countries that has to fucking get Langley's approval
when they, whenever they come out with a new director for the ISA.
You know, and so, you know,
and the other thing, of course, is like before that thing even started,
the Taliban was going, oh, you think he did it?
Show us proof.
Show us proof and we'll hand him over right away.
Yeah, and the U.S. State Department was like,
carpet of gold or carpet of bombs and it
was just like and it was like one of those things you know it's like the whole you know
don't do it don't draw don't you know don't don't pull that gun you saw it he had a gun you know
kind of thing and and he's coming right for us and but uh yeah so yeah they keep but uh they shut
down the airports here for what i don't know like a week i don't know how long it took before the flight started flying again.
But, you know, it's because they had to get all the Saudis out of the country.
I guess Israelis were safe, even though 4,000 of them stayed home that day.
You know, that's one of my favorites to drop people on.
It is Building 7 and Dancing Israelis.
Just go there and call me if you get questions.
Building 7 is really the smoking gun, isn't it?
Logically, you can't think that a computer fire brought down a building like that
and that Larry took insurance out on it like a fortnight before.
Oh, lucky Larry.
On each one.
So it was like the record on each tower.
And then when he said pull it, you know, it's like the record on each tower. And then, and then, uh, when he, when he
said pull it, you know, it's like, that's where you got to go. All right. If one was wired to
blow, they all were wired to blow. You know, I mean, it's just, you know, and then of course
there's, there's the, you know, there's, there's all these engineers now that are kind of speaking
up. But I mean, at one point, you know, they were getting slammed by Homeland Security. I mean, so, yeah, so Palantir is supposed to do kind of what the Homeland Security thing did, what the Patriot Act?
Yeah, different Homeland Security. put all these different defense, all these various intelligence agencies under the same umbrella.
So then that way they could talk because apparently they weren't allowed to by Congress.
So like I said, if that's not, and I had a buddy who worked for Southwestern Bell,
and he was talking about these switch boxes they had that you know
um that that were like outside you know i guess anywhere there was like a um
and i mean he'd been he'd been working as a telephone lineman going back to like the mid-70s but but uh he was talking about the fact that you know it was like
the national security came in and and had these, like these boxes,
like these routers that were almost like call interceptors,
you know, which, you know,
I cut Alex Jones a little bit of slack
when he was talking about,
they're going to listen to every email,
every email, every encrypted, whatever,
it's all going into this center.
And I'm going, come on, Alex,
that sounds ridiculous.
I would need something about the size of that place I just heard of about five years ago, the building in Utah or wherever in the desert.
You know, these data centers now, you know, so I don't know.
I mean, it's, you know, but I mean, so it just we'll see.
I mean, it's just, you know, if we fall fall out of favor i look i'm for the light i
really am and and i'm not you know i'm not i'm not just despairing i mean i'm best that's i mean
it's like i said i i love this community it cracks me up this community is like
so locked in you know kind of and and you know and the way
these various like things things like overlap like you know like rings on a suit of armor or
whatever on chain mail i guess well somebody sounds like a dork and they want to go play
dungeons and dragons but um but it's like i i i love the whole interlocking thing or you can make
it the 300 with the shields or whatever,
but I mean,
it's just,
I love that everybody's like kind of shoving in the same direction.
And it's like,
and you know,
some people who probably have a lot more invested than I do,
you know,
maybe some people actually wanted to put a gun in their mouth yesterday,
or like,
like gooey said,
it was like,
you know,
there's, you know, the people who believe it's gonna be not be fun for them you know
as these fucking trolls just come out and start bashing you know right away and uh yeah i ran
across a few of them and it's like i don't need to defend uh off man he can more than handle himself
but it was like i felt my ire go up you know it's just
like you know all right chode you know why don't you just go fuck yourself we got a coin called
that by the way so you know I mean it's just it's just just there's just so many tools and
bad actors and everybody's into fucking clickbait and you know it's like and it's gonna get to the point where you know
i can't tell the difference between you know whatever you know um as far as like what's
real and what's fake but at that point like i said i may just go ahead and check out and get
you know the tokyo sexbot 2000 i'm pretty pretty sure it'll look like somebody I want it to look like, you know.
There's rumors of Chia Japan.
We've got to have a Chia Japan meetup sometime,
just when this is all blown over or whatever, before it all ends.
But imagine the Chia community in Tokyo and Japan, like, hanging out.
Sex robots, real humans even.
Like, that place is, yes, Satan's
angel was saying, he lives out there, so he can, he will meet up, at least with me, so
I'm going for a drink with him at least.
I had orders for that place, I re-enlisted in the army to go to Camp Zama, Japan, and
a desert storm happened, and they shut everything down so i went over to
kawaii and iraq so god damn it um yeah it was really annoying i mean it was it was like you
know and i joined the army to go see the world anyway and they sent me about 20 minutes from
home from where my mom and dad live which is great but you're not going to see the world you know when you can take your laundry home to your parents if you wanted to um you know it's like
but you know i've i've i've turned around on some of that it's like i think families need to be
together more than anything now i mean it's like you know it's whoever talked us into fucking uh
you have to get away from your mom and go and and and and uh uh you have to get away from your mom and you have to get away from your parents
and start your own family.
It's like, yeah, you can do that.
You can do that in another building
on the same property.
You can lock your mom out of the house
if she's just going to badger your new wife.
But it's, I mean, it's just like,
but instead the corporate, you know,
our betters, I use air quotes, they found a way to extract four times the rent instead of the homestead that was already paid for.
You know, and I talked a little bit about that with Team Orange, I mean with Team Money, sorry.
uh t-money sorry um and uh as i was kind of winding down but it was you know it's like
you know and it's you know we're too busy chasing the buck because we have to i mean it's like you
know the the the parody is not you know what he used to be you guys had the doll i wish they'd go
back i mean i'm wondering if they're do that, like with the universal basic income.
And here's the other thing.
I don't really trust these AI companies.
You know, it's like, you know, that's the other thing about Elon is supposedly like polluting Memphis right now.
I think it's where he's got like one of his data centers or whatever.
And, you know, you know, I mean, he uses a sheet.
I mean, you thought the fucking Bitcoin was going to boil the seas.
What they were saying all the time.
Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's yeah, it's it's going to be nasty as far like, how much fresh water those things take up.
But anyway, it's, I don't know.
I mean, it's like, but, you know, like they go, well, you know, somebody had just said that, you know, probably a third of our workers would be, you know, would be lost.
And it's like, oh, and it's like, well, that's one way you could do it, I suppose, you know.
The other thing you could do is i don't know you you could you could uh have the machines that can you know
double your output or whatever keep everybody on their job kick everybody's ass as far as
productivity goes and then give everybody a fucking raise and reduce the number of work
weeks to like i don't know work hours like 25 a week to where they can actually go have time to focus on their family.
And, you know, what was it?
10 for leisure, 10 for, I can't remember what the hell that thing was, but they used to have this thing about how, you know, it was like, you know, 10 for leisure, 10 for learning and 10 or some bullshit on how you balance your work week kind of thing.
your work week kind of thing but you know part of it was you know um and i'm old enough like i said
i remember the the fake movie tone kind of uh commercials about the future and it was like
we'll be living in luxury as robots wait on us again we found a way to do slavery again
you know they didn't say that but it's like yes i'm doing'm going, okay, what about what Curse Wheel wrote about, the singularity?
It's one thing that nanotechnology can, like a TV can rebuild itself, but once you hit the singularity and the TV gets an agenda, then what?
I was always making, I've never owned one of those things because I'm too big of a slob, so they wouldn't work in my place anyway.
But those rumbas and those, you know, the vacuum cleaners that go around and get stuck under every potential fucking thing you can find to get stuck under, whether it's a piece of paper or a cabinet door or something like that.
I have friends who would like just kick the shit out of them going, don't do that.
You know, and I would go pick it up and pat it on the head and send it back to
wherever so i was just like make sure you tell your 52nd to the 46th power cousin uh galactus
the 26th whatever you know blah blah blah he was like just tell him that i helped get you unstuck
you know um whatever it is you guys are gonna do if you're gonna turn this into the cybermen or whatever just if you if you just hit me with the one bolt and it was just
there boom and it's done you know um because i really don't i don't like the sawing and screams
and everything else i hear when they made the cybermen on doctor who so anyway it's sorry i
live alone with a cat that's tired of hearing this bullshit so
um so it gets saved up and then people catch it every once in a while everybody it's been a
pleasure talking at you i apologize i wish i had engaged you more oh hey real quick before i forget
where are you on the moon landing? Fake.
We've not been to the moon.
I'm not even sure the moon is real.
I look at it and I think, well, it could be a hologram.
It could be a reflection of the Earth on the firmament.
It could be a real thing.
But one of the things that I think is strange is the fact they don't describe it as a planet.
It's a moon.
It's not a planet.
Surely a moon is like a little planet.
So I don't think that's weird. But the footage of the moon landings look so fake the press conference and who was
who was the cameraman when they left the moon it's like three two one all right there they go boom
yes did they leave a camera the moon what's what's going on uh what's what's been pretty
great about x that i that i do i love x i mean there's there's guys
like i think there's that uh mr joker's red pill army i think is one of the counts i follow and i
mean there's there's guys that just put killer fucking clips up you know things i mean i don't
even know if the tartaria thing is real i don't give a shit i love that stuff i just i'm i'm
hoping that that you know i'm hoping that
there's some kind of steampunk civilization that we stomped out or whatever it is and then just
you know obliterated but i've seen people going on with the books and going look
here's the flag of tartaria you know um and it's in this or i think somebody went and found one
some book printed in within like the first four or five years of like the founding of the country.
You know, I, I, I loved it. You know, I, I, you know, they're going, Hey,
1800 is when this was built. Uh, you think they did this?
You know, it's like, you think, you think we did this, but you know,
like whether it was the bridges and the buildings, I mean, just the, yeah,
I, I, I get such a kick out of that stuff.
Sorry, I just sidetracked myself.
One of the things one of the guys had on there as far as the moon landing
are just these fantastic bloopers.
Just these fantastic bloopers.
There's one where the guy is trying to hammer the American flag into the moon's surface.
He drops his hammer, but he can't really reach down to pick it up, which by the way,
you know, everything else is buoyant and lack of crafty or everything,
you know, one third lighter or whatever.
But he can't reach down and pick up his fucking, his hammer because the line
they've got suspending him kind of in the air so he can do his little bouncy,
bouncy thing as they walk across for the cameras uh won't let him reach all the way down yeah i mean it's just there's there's there's so many
of the the just the bloopers that are showing up on on uh from nasa now i just think are fantastic
but then the question is what the do they do with all that money
yeah it'd be a good way to hide money wouldn wouldn't it, is to put it all into a fake program that is very cheap to fake, but it's part of the fraud. You say it costs a lot of money kind of thing.
Mars rover or something like,
I think I saw where they've got guys
who have determined that Mars is actually
this island in Canada.
As far as the pictures that we see.
And they just dropped a red filter over the lens.
It's hilarious.
In fact, there's like trucks up there.
They're showing like somebody, you know,
that always amazes me where you see the guys
where somebody will send in the,
hey, here I am.
Where am I?
You know, kind of thing to the, to the guy that's supposed to be the forensic computer guy or whatever
and can figure out which fucking Arby's he's at or whatever it is, you know.
And, I mean, down to, I mean, literally in their town, whether it's, you know,
Hayama, Georgia or, you know, Dogpatch, Iowa or wherever, you know, Grover's Corners, you know, Grover's corners, you know, and it's like, uh, yeah,
I find that stuff interesting, you know, and I'm,
I'm glad some of the stuff is seeping out. And I mean,
because it's for now for another reason,
I mean we should absolutely be skeptical of everything our government tells us.
The one I love talking about this is Bart Cibrell. I don't know if you,
I guess you've probably seen him Crell.com he's he's the guy that went up to buzz aldrin with a bible and he was like i'll pay
you a thousand dollars to just put your hand on the bible and say that you've been to the moon
and is that the one that he punched way back when yeah buzz uh buzz aldrin punches it live on camera
yeah yeah yeah.
I've only seen that guy
as far as, I guess,
because they've got him in
that a funny thing
happened on the way to the moon.
That's it, yeah.
And that's the movie
that kind of drug me
into everything
besides 9-11 stuff.
Loose change, I guess.
But, yeah, I mean,
it's like... I mean can i mean you know like
there's things whether the bible's a code book and you know it's like uh what was the guy's name
that wrote um john marco allegro wrote the uh sacred mushroom in the cross from like the i want
to say from like the 70s or whatever i've read the thing that's where he had christianity being a mushroom fertility cult um but and he was like the leading dead sea uh dead language uh philologist or whatever
on the dead sea scrolls team um when nagamati or whatever was got found and uh he wrote his book
and put it out and they uh immediately kicked him off the team and then and then that book is like it's you know two you know
the back one third of it is is footnotes you know i mean like crazy you know stuff and and
the catholic church was able to write a uh rebuttal of that thing in like under six weeks
you know it's okay but you know he had you so, yeah, he thought the actual Christ was the Amanita Muscaria, the red and white, or the Flygark, the one that's everywhere.
I mean, it's in Smurf houses, it's in Christmas cards, it's, you know, I've taken this stuff, it's supposed to be more for astral projection than, like, just the fun time with, you know, the magic mushroom, like, we're going to a heavy rave, you know uh with the psilocybin cubensis cubensis um excuse me but uh yeah so um
how did what what took you off and and i don't i don't mean to ask your age by any means but but
what kind of got you started down into the uh conspiracy stuff if you don't
mind yeah i'm 44 44 years old and uh the first i i guess i was always i i got a magazine when i was
in the call 14 times 14 times i don't know if that's still a thing but my brothers were older
and they were always they were interested in Whitley Strieber and stuff.
So I kind of got it from my brothers, I guess.
But the Moon Landings one was the one.
It was a double part video called, in fact, I can't remember.
It was by someone called David Percy.
And I think Mary Bennett was the other.
They were on a John Ronson show called For the Love of Lunar Conspiracy.
on a John Ronson show called For the Love of Lunar Conspiracy and David Percy was just saying as a
photographer like these photos don't add up and I guess I don't know why people follow fringe
conspiracies maybe it's for attention I don't know but it just struck me that the moon landing wasn't
real so I was probably 15 then 14 15 and I asked the physics professor at my school, by the way, the same school Isaac Newton went to study, went to study before he went to Cambridge, King School Grantham.
It was actually where the apple fell on his head in Colstoweth.
But so in the same hallowed hallways, Isaac Newton was propagandized.
I asked the physics teacher, well, why are the reflections?
Why are there two reflections on the moon of, why are there two shadows, basically, on the moon? And his answer,
he was so quick to say it, he basically said it, well, it's because the sun will reflect off the,
like the lunar lander, so that the sun will create one shadow and the reflection of the sun
off the lunar lander will create another. And I kind of thought, hmm, that's kind of a good explanation.
But then again, the lunar lander, you talk about the six wheel go-kart to cost however many millions of dollars.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah.
Well, basically, yeah, I guess I didn't even really know what it looked like.
But it kind of made sense.
But at the same time, he hasn't looked at the evidence.
He refused to watch the video. it was just a dismissal of course and i thought that's not science like if i'm in a school where we're discussing theories and you know they're saying
the scientific process is have a theory test it scientifically discuss it discuss it more do
another mini experiment so by raising this evidence to him He was unwilling to watch it. He just dismissed it and that sent my warning bell off in a sense
So and then the second one was well, you said being 21 on September
I was 21 on September the 11th 2001 and I just taken magic mushrooms in Amsterdam
before just taken magic mushrooms in Amsterdam before. Holy shit.
And then when it was coming up on the mushrooms,
someone,
and I will remember his email address,
random head case at hotmail.com walked up to me in Amsterdam,
some American person.
And he was like,
Hey dude,
what's up?
And I was like,
yeah, pretty good.
Just taking mushrooms with just an hour ago.
And he was like, I'm just off mushrooms with just an hour ago and he was
like i'm just off to check windows media player to see the world trade center attacked i was like
what just put it out of my head because on mushrooms you sort of that first hour trippy
bit is probably the funniest part and uh yeah we went into a coffee shop in amsterdam and uh
the tv was on it like the second plane flew into the building
as we sort of walked in not the second we walked in but sort of shortly after so
that's the one that everybody saw because they heard the first one you know what i mean and then
everybody was in some place and to watch that and and that's the one that like i said the guys
have come out and said it looks fake you know and of course there's the goofy about a bunch of people got phone calls hi mom it's such
it's your son john smith you believe me right mom you know kind of thing and and you know they've had
people since then go out and do like uh i guess they were doing very i guess like maybe they got
in front of it and i'm trying to remember where they had done this thing but it was like were doing experiments with like, you know, how long it would take before they could make a call on whether it was an Ericsson, you know, whatever, or, you know, you know, the, the, the crappy cell phones we had pre pre smartphone that, you know, that shouldn't, shouldn't be operating that high you know what happened to the planes with the real planes with the people on them fuck if i know i mean but i know that they showed you that
like uh who was it um boeing or whatever done the same way they could fly you know planes by remote
where they're like landing and and landing and taking off and landing and eventually crashing
them you know um for these tests or the boeing was doing but uh um but you know so so you know, for these tests where Boeing was doing. But, you know, so, you know, you just need one.
And then, of course, you know, those, I don't know what they were,
where they were like 757s or I don't think they were something as small
as like the Southwest Airline planes.
But the thing is that plane that they talk about has these huge engines that should have dug up the freaking, you know, front lawn of the freaking Pentagon.
And that thing looked like you could putt off of it, you know.
Never mind that website called Hunt the Boeing where it's like, you know, wait, this thing just vaporized and went where?
Wait, this thing just vaporized and went where?
You know, the hole is only 10 feet wide, you know.
You know, the hole is only 10 feet wide, you know?
Yeah, I wonder if they, like, put a real drone,
flew a real drone into the tower,
and then they cut to maybe AI-generated holograms
or AI-generated videos to make people think they saw a bigger plane.
Well, I don't know.
I think you could fly something approaching looking like a plane
into a
building and then quickly get like pre-rendered video of the like a sort of like holographic one
or a fake version because it just doesn't add up disappeared into the building it should have at
least hit it and sort of some of it should have fell down and some of it should have been an impact feel but it's like it's
like butter it doesn't kind of yeah and that day has been the only day that um you know that uh
two planes managed to knock down three skyscrapers um you know um but it's but it's like you know and
then you have like when you go i mean you know who is it was a n it's like, you know, and then you have like, when you go, I mean,
you know, who is it?
Was it NIST?
I guess I'd like put that, that was putting down these, you know, engineers and whatever,
these various scholars that like, you know, it's not like it's me, you know, coming up
with this.
It's, it's, you know, somebody else that knows about fluid dynamics or whatever the
fuck it's, you know, and, and, and you know i can sit there and quote the thing
about steel melts that like whatever it was you know something it's a 1300 i can't remember what
it is now i'm because i just i you know everybody just accepted it it moved on for the most part
which just sucks i don't want them to you know by any means because that you know it's that's you
know i keep thinking like our timeline you know the real America, is probably, you know, it got hijacked in like 63 when they killed the president.
And, you know, just really went defensive industries and everything, you know, weapons, you know.
But, you know, well, probably got hijacked before then.
Probably got hijacked at the end of World War II when you had Henry Wallace
that was the second VP, I guess, for FDR.
And they shut down the mics or whatever.
And he was a Quaker.
He was into, you know.
Yeah, only for his heart. you know yeah
only for his heart
which you know
anyway don't get me started on that
but the
he was
pro farmer
he was
pro labor for one thing
and I mean
people forget
they sit there and scream communism, socialism.
I mean, we've got socialism here now, you know, whenever one of these schemes goes on,
you know, like the banks, you know, whether it's their credit default swaps or whatever,
when it comes time to bail them out, it's socialism.
When their little plans work, it's capitalism and it's just for them, you know,
I mean, it's just, you know, it's, it's, it's, you know, know so i mean it's just you know it's it's it's
you know so i mean i that's you know but otherwise you know without some kind of you know with social
without social services i mean we're gonna be back to like we get to pay you know for the uh
for the fire service i mean you know like and they and you would have a little plate outside
your house that says okay they've paid their subscription for the month uh go ahead and put
that one out instead of people realizing hey maybe if we put them all out then it won't
kill the people down at the other end of the city you know but you know it's it's just you know it's
it's we're kind of dumb i mean it's like you know i love the other thing hicks says when we talk
about you know isn't mankind great i'm like i'm not trying to sound like keel with a satan thing
if i any means i'm just like, I kind of agree with him.
We're a virus with tennis shoes, you know, just.
We're a virus with shoes.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And like I said, you know, when we talk about the Carlin thing,
it's like those two lines, you know, you come away with,
those are the main takeaway anybody's got.
I want people to hear that whole Carlin thing
because, I mean,
it's just him talking about,
he goes,
and he's explaining,
you know,
like I said,
the softening of language.
Then he's talking about,
you know,
a change from like Head Start
to No Child Left Behind.
You know,
somebody's losing ground, you know, kind of thing. And it's, you know, it changed from like Head Start to No Child Left Behind. You know, somebody's losing ground, you know, kind of thing.
And it's, you know, and then he explained, you know, there's a reason that, you know, education sucks.
And, you know, because they want you just smart enough to pull the levers and too dumb to realize you've been fucked by a system that threw you overboard 30 years ago, you know.
And then he goes and they're coming for your pensions they're going to get it too and your social security money
you know so but uh yeah they're interested in obedient workers so but i i don't know what
they're going to do if they you know like i said if they you know because i mean i know that man
needs some kind of thing to have self-worth. That's the common statement.
You know, it's like, make him not feel like a slob.
It's like, I don't know, I like feeling like a slob.
I'd like the fact that I get a pension from the military, you know, from my time in that.
You know, I'm not really looking to be a greeter at Walmart.
No disrespect to T-Money or anybody else that's ever worked at Walmart.
You know? reader at Walmart, no disrespect to T-Money or anybody else that's ever worked at Walmart.
Oh, has he cut off?
Maybe it's just me.
Give him a second.
Test, test. Test, test.
Test test.
Test test. Thank you. I'm just checking another phone now I'm not sure if it's me that's cut off or if it was
Lee Potter let's see.
Test, test.
Yeah, I'm switching phone here. I hope Lee's not talking.
It was a weird glitch.
The word Walmart seemed to cut that off.
Test, test.
Oh, well, I'll just keep it going.
I guess he'll jump back up, hopefully, if he was there.
What was he saying?
He was talking about oh yeah, the Walmart
and the state of the world and stuff
I think it's an interesting idea
about what the family
is in the modern day
like being in a family
and all the pressure of being in family
and it's been harder and harder, more and more
difficult to maintain
I wonder if the natural
way for humans to live is not in a family, but in fact,
a tribe where your family is part of a tribe. It might sound a bit weird, but before we lived in
basically houses with just a few people, someone we met, you know, fell in love with whatever,
and then you'd like generally move out of your family's home and sometimes people's parents
would live with them but before that when we lived outside essentially in tribes you would have a
lover I guess and children but then the responsibilities of raising them wasn't just
the responsibility of like one or two people it was the responsibility of the wider tribe
and possibly even people outside the tribe.
Like maybe tribes will come together,
possibly maybe once a year for dances or more regularly.
So how big are tribes?
50, 100?
I feel that there's a lot of pressure on the family life
in the Western world and the Eastern world,
although they seem to get a better balance in the east but the family in the west it's it just seems a bit i don't think i could
personally be happy living in a house with one person or a few people forever i don't know it's
i probably would be happy but like i feel that there's too many fault points with that.
You marry the wrong person, they then try and make you miserable.
Someone's depressing, they make you miserable.
Someone cheats on you, ruins your life.
You marry an abusive guy, he's aggressive.
You're a victim of domestic abuse, imprisoned by the law of marriage for the rest of your life.
It doesn't really seem natural to me quite in the same way.
I almost think that the tribe concept is more akin to sort of a wider, more happy life, I think.
Not that I'm recommending people quickly go and build a tent in the rainforest and sort of bring other people because that won't
work either but i feel like a social change that leads back into that direction is is more likely
that more and more digital tribes online communities of people like-minded people
are kind of there for each other and then yeah you'll still have your husband and wife and your
children but it's it's less guarded.
It's less walled off.
And I thought that would be an interesting thing to raise.
I think if Lee's still there, I'll send an invite.
I don't know if you got cut off.
And another thing worth thinking about is that I think 95% of all the world's buildings and all the world's free fields and farms is owned by the elite.
Probably 99%, but at least 95% of all the world's green land, all the forests, all the like pasture land, all the town center buildings, like council offices, all the expensive hotels,
all of the buildings that are in town centers, all of them,
90%, 95% are all owned by basically one family. So if there was a revolution, I could see it being
quite peaceful and quick and surprisingly beneficial for people who maybe have never owned a house before or who have never lived in a big building.
Like, just so many places, so many things.
In Bangkok, there's so many empty skyscrapers
that are built just to hide,
probably shouldn't be saying this,
but I'm guessing it's to hide money to some degree.
So there isn't a shortage of housing.
There's actually a massive abundance
and there isn't a shortage of space there's actually a massive abundance and there isn't a shortage of space there's a massive abundance of space
like fly from any country to any country and one of the things if you've never flown before is how
much of the land below is green and doesn't have people in it like even london fly from bangkok
to london only like the last five percent well, maybe 1% of the flying time,
you actually see something below you. London, what's that? That's London? It's like a tiny speck
on the physical land of what's generally green and open. So all that green and open land
is owned by someone. All of the land in England is owned owned by someone so i kind of think that maybe there
could be digital tribes that lead to physical tribes in the future and you don't live in one
place necessarily transient but all that land and arable land is doesn't it could have cows in it
it could have happy sheep in it it could have new buildings that are one story high and you know
powered by hologram like you could have you know
world's places like neon lit places that used to be arable land that could be i i don't know like
uh one land that's just for cricket fans to play cricket 24 7 and it's all free i don't one of the
things i kind of i don't know if lee is still listening but one of the things i am oh are you
there on my phone it's showing you're not on the stage.
Sorry about that.
That's okay.
Yeah, no, I don't know when I disappeared what the last thing was you heard out of me,
but apparently I was walking back and forth in my apartment just talking to my phone.
And I'm not trying to sit there and finish what I had to say.
I mean, I was done anyway.
But, yeah, I don't know how long I've been gone.
But, no, you're talking utopia, and I'm all about that.
Just people getting to see.
What do you think about a world with no money, but things just basically everything is free?
I'd love to steel man that.
Like, what reason might it not be possible that
everything could be free i i i don't know i mean look look at what tesla was trying to give us and
you know jp morgan you know shut him down yeah if energy was taken care of i mean it wouldn't be
click of a finger obviously i couldn't just be like well i'll have power my microwave free tomorrow but if there's a way of creating free energy what things does that take away i mean
that gets rid of a lot of problems have you seen this is one of my favorite conspiracies and and
because i mean i'm just like how well are they prompting these fucking because i mean they sound
like the ai to me you know what i mean as far as like the people that come back but it's like
some people have taken i like like what drac has done with mark and
ava i think i think it's very very interesting and then like some people have made them like
their their some of their ais sound like their drinking buddies you'll be like dude you are so
right and it was like and but the guy was asking about he was asking about like uh 5g and then trying to essentially uh uh recreate you know
create a synthetic ether over the ether that should be there for us you know have you seen any of those
i don't think so i'll have to make sure i've got your email address number of friends so we can uh
Make sure I've got your email address and then we're friends so we can,
because you'll be like, oh, Jesus Christ, another one.
But, you know, I mean, people have to be out there, like, screening and looking.
You know what I mean?
It's like, and I don't try and blow up the Chia timeline with every once in a while
something pops up where I'm bitching about Israel or whatever, you know,
or planes, you know, and the buildings.
But it's just that time. It's that holiday season. You know, or planes, you know, and the buildings.
But it's just that time.
It's that holiday season.
You know, it's just that time of year.
So, but, yeah, I'll have to make sure I've got the numbers. I mean, your friendship or whatever so I can send things that I run across.
Because there's some fun ones that just make my head go, wow.
And I'm into the thought experiment.
Like I said, we're off our timeline, I think.
But it's okay.
That's the way it goes.
Yeah, but if you've got a pen, my email is anewformofmusicatgmail.com.
Anewformofmusicatgmail.com.
I can message you it, too, if you've not got a pen to hand.
Yeah, no, please.
But yeah, that way
it's for nothing.
Just somebody else to bounce it off.
I mean, like that Ian Carroll guy.
He's kind of come on the scene.
He's the Johnny come lately or whatever.
And I like his stuff.
What I liked about him,
if nothing else,
is him doing the...
I think, what is it like there's only
like one big company in the world kind of thing as far as like where he was showing like who owns
what and they kind of all own each other you know and he starts with the easy thing like whether
it's uh black rock um vanguard and what's the other one fucking state street i don't remember
but but uh and then just shows a share you know so they've all got like a major share in each other you know kind of thing
to where they don't lose no matter who wins you know kind of thing and uh um you know and then
and then he then he takes and shows like uh he shows what share they have and then he shows what
percentage and he uses a chart that looks kind of like uh deejay and waffles uh blockchain art almost but uh but with just a few few colors in it but you
know he shows like what percentage of the thing i heard that sorry that's okay
but um yeah no he just he just shows like what percentage like they own and like let's say
Safeway and then he does like all the grocery stores and then he goes and he had the thing
where it's like everything is owned by this one mega corporation with the exception of
one thing and that was uh GameStop
oh yeah that and that was the thing he initially started talking about wasn't it he suspiciously came out of nowhere to be i mean yeah he could be a plant he could he could be a
plant he could be a limited hangout he could he could be i mean everything he says he is you know
um or maybe it's something else from central casting i mean it's like uh what was it and i
had i sent him i'm trying to remember what it was he said something about i don't remember it was like he he said something and
i just had to say oh i know what it was he was talking about um he was talking about a b1 or a
b2 he was he was talking about some kind of plane hitting the world trade center and i was like you
mean the empire state building and you mean like
a b17 you know kind of you know i mean just as far as like because just you know that's like i said
that did just be the one thing that he could be wrong and then they just go okay that's all
misinformation and chuck it all out you know with these with these language laws so i mean i was
like and i'm i'm like i'm your subscriber i love you you know that i send you you know five bucks a month whatever the fuck it is you know i'm
not paying your uh heating bills or anything but i mean it's like you know i i am an actual you know
not just you know uh just uh whatever you call it just a parasite or whatever you know but but it's
like i just i just think that thing i think that thing is real important that people make sure you know it's that's where that's where like some of the
freaking uh i was watching the the thing where they're yanking somebody out of court or i mean
yanking somebody out of a congress and they were and they were army officers and they were
screaming about the genocide in palestine and you look at the uh you look at the letterboxing or whatever, the captions, I'm going, that's not what they said.
It's like, but I don't know how much of that is deliberate and how much of that is, you know, screw up YouTube shit.
I have no idea, you know, but I think it's important to be, I mean, because like I said, there are fun things that I can get on and go with, you know, whether it's, you know, flat earth or, you know, you know, if you like you were talking about with the land, there's so much land here that, you know, if we would just share some, maybe we wouldn't have to go try and see what's on the other side of that fucking around everything. I mean, like, apparently that picture where it shows, like, an ice ring around everything
is on the wall of the UN.
You know, I didn't know that.
And so it's like, all right, just everything's, you know,
or, you know, it's like them putting the fucking,
the fascia, you know, hanging in the Senate,
you know, the bundle of sticks that, you know,
is used to, when you bind them together,
they hold an axe handle, axe head, you know,
when you just chop people down with it.
But, yeah, I mean people down with it. But, yeah.
I mean, there's so much stuff, and it's just so β
I mean, critical thinking was gone by the time I got into high school.
You know, so I'm 56.
But, you know, it's β
It's a good age to be 56.
Sorry, it's a good period of time to be 56 because in the past, like, if you got to 50, 60, that's
a life gets slows down.
But you're going to be 50 going 60, whatever.
When there's like either the world will fall to shit or it's going to be a complete revolution
and the most exciting time in history.
Right.
And people.
Yeah.
Minds. I mean, I guess. guess i mean but it's like i'm also
i'm not a gym bro i mean it's like i'm i'm beat the fuck up you know a lot of stuff so it's like
you know if there was an actual fight coming it probably would have been better when i was you
know it's but i mean i've probably been hotheaded or you know go pop you know you know make some
rash decision but i mean i just you know it's, I wish I could do more besides just wheeze.
But, you know, I never thought I would see a potential end to the United States as a Republican
as far as the American experiment went.
You know, like I said, Franklin famously said
when they said, what kind of government do you give us?
He's like, a republic if you can keep it.
A democratic republic.
Because it's like, democracy is like they talk about
it's the worst form.
I think the Athenians
maybe used straight up
democracy and it's
my ruler, but it's it's my ruler but it's it's it's it's the uh
it's it they voted on everything i mean not just going to war but like how many ships will we be
taking how many who's got to come up with this and and you know the people who really wanted to
rule would get very frustrated by it and you know they'd have to talk to each other in the mystery
schools or whatever you know when they were drinking know, some kind of wine made out of ergot in a cup that you,
if you spill it, I mean, it's only about, you know, three centimeters deep,
you're a dick and you probably won't get to get high with everybody, you know.
But, you know, it's, yeah, so I mean, it's, you know, but the way they got it now,
I mean, it's the whole, it's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner, you know, kind of thing.
But, you know, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I love the idea of, I mean, I don't know how you get rid of, I mean, that's, money was to what?
I mean, to control.
I mean, there's, what is it? There's a good book. There's that, Neil Postman's got an interesting book called Am I mean, to control. I mean, there's a good book.
There's that Neil Postman's got an interesting book called Amusing Ourselves to Death that a friend of mine read a long time ago and tried to turn me on to that I probably should give a look at.
But then there's also the guns, germs and steel.
I mean, of course, I don't know how you do it.
I mean, you know, it's like, like I said, we, you know, we tell people to get the house, you know, it takes, like I said, it takes generations to grow a farmer, you know, and, you know, it's like, and like I said, I've, at least in my lifetime, I remember like going back to the Reagan era as far as like things like, you know, there was always, I mean, it was, there was always a porous southern border, you know,
as far as, because it was like the field hands and all that kind of stuff. They came up from Mexico,
they worked here, they took all their money back to, you know, to their families in Mexico,
but NAFTA kind of fucked that up, you know, when you had like, I don't know, Monsanto goes in with
a Roundup Ready and, you know, wipes out, you know, all the fucking, you know, corn or whatever down there, you know,
subsistence farmer wise. So they have to come up here, you know?
I don't, you know, from what I see on YouTube or whatever,
I see things like they make it look like you guys are completely overrun and
they're, and they're saying prayers to Mecca like six,
seven times a day and like London.
I mean, are you guys completely overrun by Muslims?
I know.
I think it's all the same type in the media.
I mean, there is a lot of people being brought in,
but it's not like Muslims because they're Muslim.
It's like fighting age men from other countries, I think.
And when you say we, I'm talking about the uk because i live in thailand so it hasn't happened right right right sorry so yeah i mean because i mean it's like that's that's what they want you
to believe when you when you when you freaking you know go get on twitter or whatever and it's like
all right but you know you realize where they're coming from right they're they're places that you
guys went in and bombed the fuck out of america and england jesus christ you know of course
they're of course they're headed you know not where not where the fighting is you know um
you know it's it's like so you know yeah i don't i mean and that's that's the other thing i mean
like we've got you know we've got like you know, we've got, like, you know,
they'll talk about, like, the Hispanic population in, like, Iowa
or something like that, or North Carolina.
It's like, that's not really anywhere close to the border.
I mean, where they're coming in from, you know, and it's like,
but no, it's the, you know, the big meatpacking companies
and everything like that, that's who transports them, you know, once the coyotes get them here.
And it's like, and why is that?
I mean, they count on illegal labor to keep the wages down so we don't unionize, you know.
Of course, you know, the union movement was only at its strongest in America.
It was only about 30% of the workforce.
I want to say maybe 40.
And that was in the era of the coal mine wars, for fuck's sake.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I've got families that were in West Virginia that did coal mining.
So it's a family tradition that I'm glad I'm not a part of.
Like I said, I'm a disappointment. I never got married. I went off and started playing drums in a band,
you know, so that's what I did until COVID.
So I still play in Austin now, but I'm leaving
Austin relatively quick.
Oh, really?
Just down a couple more
towns to New Braunfels, which is just not quite San Antonio, but it's my apartment complex out of nowhere.
They doubled the rate, which had been like $350,000, I want to say, which is amazing.
But it was because I was getting subsidized housing through the VA.
And so they took, and then I saw that my thing was $700 starting when this lease was up.
And this was coming from the city.
And then I'm like, oh, wait a minute, though.
I'm about to not be in that program.
So it's actually $1,500 is what it's going to want to be in.
And I'm two years older than the building I live in.
It's not nice.
Like I said, they're jacking the rents up.
And then they're not giving anybody new leases.
They're just having them go month to month.
And so, but we would have like these meetings and tell us, oh, no, we're building, they're groundbreaking down the building.
We're going to put you guys in.
It's just right around the corner.
I'm going, nah, it's not.
You know, you guys are here to flip this property to the next developer is what it is.
And so they're just, it's a soft, it's a soft shakedown or shaking out of the property to get people,
you know, the tenants that don't want to leave or whatever, you know, um, you know, I had, uh,
I had a couple of pets die. Like, I mean, beloved ones, like in the last year, like almost a calendar year apart. And, uh, so it was like just that. And then with the news of the rent thing,
I was like, it's time to fucking go. It's just, you know, it's,
it's,
it's a good time to get out,
you know?
And so,
bullish got me all excited when he got back from,
like,
I want to say,
was it,
was it Portugal?
You know,
it's like,
you know,
and,
and I highly agree with what he said.
And that's,
you know,
if you people have not traveled,
you should go travel.
I mean,
really travel,
not,
not here,
not,
I mean, not America. That's boring. You boring you know um besides what do you really need to go to another state to see denny's you know or or you
know a uh of fuck whatever it's a road texas roadhouse steak joint or whatever it's like just
go someplace you know just if you can get out of the country go do
it i mean it's like like try and pick one that uh doesn't have resources that we want so you don't
get bummed but you know just just try and you know go i want to go to i would love to go like
over where um even though it's a little close to the action, but I would love to go where Parity is, like over in Serbia and Slovenia, you know?
Maybe see the footprints of, oh, what's his name?
Got everybody in trouble back in 1911 or so
when he took down Transferdon.
Oh, Princeps.
Gabriello princeps um yeah the only the only place i've been over there close to parody has been um uh lubiana slovenia when one
of my bands when i played over there so but we played london we played you know so i've gotten
to go but i'd love to go again because like like I said, I got screwed out of a Japan assignment.
I'd love to put on a show in Japan in the future.
That's one of my plans, so consider yourself invited.
Right on.
Yeah, so hopefully we just need, what was it, Chia to be two Bitcoin or whatever it is.
One Chia equals two Bitcoin or something like that. And for Bitcoin to do well, but, you know, who knows?
I mean, yeah, like I said, I would, yeah,
if you didn't have to bust your ass getting out of,
you know, you can't quit your job
because you've got family responsibilities
and your shitty healthcare that you're paying way too much for and
getting too little for is tied to that goddamn job. So you got to put up with the asshole boss
that you can't stand in the first place. But you know, wife was a month and a half pregnant when
you took the job. So, you know, just yeah, it sucks. This is not the way we're supposed to live i don't think you know if if if
we if we you know were to reflect you know god and in his image or whatever it's like i don't think
he got i don't think he you know maybe maybe i can be completely wrong but it's i'd like to think
that it's not that kind of a god that just goes, hey, let me make something to fucking be a beast of burden.
Let me make something that gets depressed, you know, gets hung up on everything.
You know, that's another car on routine.
I forgot about that.
He goes, if this is the work of the almighty creator, I am not impressed.
He goes, that's just a bad temp worker with a bad attitude.
Not something you expect from the divine being, you know?
So, um, yeah, I don't know.
I really don't, but, uh, yeah, but like, um, I won't go down the mushroom thing.
But yeah, the, you know,. But yeah, the tree of knowledge,
forbidden tree of knowledge, good and evil,
forbidden fruit stuff,
that's supposed to be like possibly apples of Apollo.
I don't know.
We've been trying to get back to the garden
ever since Eve cut a deal with the snake,
and that's not fair because Because Adam, you know
Didn't have to listen to her
But he probably just needed a nagging to stop
I have no idea. Now I sound like somebody and we know why he doesn't have
A wife. So, uh, uh, yeah, but, uh, anyway
Um, well, Edward, thank you so much for real
I really
appreciate just
getting to
talk about whatever
my pleasure
thanks for coming up
and talking for most of it
it makes my job easier for sure
yeah I think
we'll see how many people dropped out. I've got
that, unfortunately, I've got that kind of drone
that makes people
kind of enter a coma.
No, I think the opposite. I think you've
kept people in the room.
There's a real honesty in your voice
so it means a lot
to hear it and also it's
middle of the night in America, I think.
What time is it now?
2.17. in yeah sure so and is that the east or the west west east i'm central i'm in texas i'm central
okay right yeah so yeah always welcome and and oh there was a bit of breaking conspiracy to it linked to Gia when the space was ongoing.
And I pinned it at the top.
I don't know if it's from the Discord.
I don't know where it's from.
But Trent Martinson, I guess the Permuto Capital person, has said, and it could be AI or Photoshop,
but he said in the screenshot, I'm presuming it was in the Discord, it says, and yes, Trent Martinson said, and yes, we could blow the lid off and just go.
But there are downsides of doing that.
Like a three-letter agency being less than happy with us.
And then Gene Hoffman replying that negging sometimes works.
What does that mean?
That's the first time I've seen them say three-letter agency.
Presumably they mean the SEC.
It doesn't have to be, though, but that's a big,
to use that sort of language, Trent's basically saying
that they're being instructed to do something
by a three-letter agency.
That's a negative connotation phrase,
so I think that's quite revealing.
Yeah. I mean, one of the things that worried me me i think i heard deuce saying that it was like you're not big enough with that was that the deal or whatever or what they wanted they wanted to have bigger
goals or something like that that that happened here in austin at one point i mean completely
different thing but it was it was so annoying it was like we had this cool little um we found our way around zoning
we set up we made a cool venue in a place where there wasn't one you know all that kind of stuff
but and then all of a sudden code enforcement came out and they were you know you know hey fix this
gutter or and we had we had good people that could work on stuff and so we could you know get things
done like within a day and not have to wait on it as they like tried to find this place out of existence and it was it was on behalf of the developers of course but so you know but so
when we finally you know went through the whole thing with the zoning and we went down to the city
and the city was going yeah we like what you're doing but you know could you maybe get an alcohol
license it's like what no it's byop you know the only one we're selling is food in here. You know, we got like a food truck that comes in.
And it was just one of those things that was like, so if, and then you realize it's like, oh, well, they just wanted a taste.
He let us wet our beaks also.
It's like, what are you talking about?
It's the most inconsequential.
It's just a good vibe where maybe two to 400 people a month see some cool shows.
You know?
And that's probably an inflated number.
It's probably closer to 300 tops, you know?
And we had built a thing for bands and kind of done our own little fucking swap meet trade economy kind of thing.
And they suddenly wanted us to go play in a different game.
And it was like, not interested, but it was like, yeah, because you want more money.
You know, when we could just pay the property taxes and boom, that's it.
You know, and yeah, eventually things happened.
One of the guys got sick.
I think his dog died as well.
You know, I get it.
You know, I mean, it's like, you know, there's's that old saying you want to hear the universe laugh just tell us you
got plans you know and you know it's the way it goes but but yeah no it's it's uh um I that that
sounds to me like they can't bring enough fucking, you know,
their cut, you know,
let everybody eat at the table kind of thing, even though they haven't done
anything to add to it except, you know,
you know, give us hoops to jump through
and, you know, Gene and them.
So, who do you think, who would you,
so if it's the EPA, I'm not
EPA, Jesus Christ, SEC,
so that's, uh,
that's, uh, whatchamacallit, right?
That's the Fed chairman, is that who it is that runs that?
What was the one that Ginzo ran?
Yeah, that's the one he's said to have ran.
Like, on paper, he ran it, but obviously he was following orders somehow, seemed possibly probably right right right yeah and that was crazy too because of course like his what was it the
the daughter i mean it was yeah it was insane as far as like that weird connection like one of them
one of them was like uh i think ginsler wrote the laws or helped write some of the law for the
you know it was so weird and it was all you know you know when ftx you know probably i I think Gensler wrote the laws or helped write some of the law for the fucking,
you know,
it was, it was so fucking weird.
And it was all,
you know,
you know,
when FTX,
you know,
probably,
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing,
what happened with FTX,
you know,
cause it kind of,
you know,
got some of the shysters out of the business and like some of the others
certainly still around and just rebranded or whatever.
But,
but,
you know,
at least,
at least they're not like immediately flipping
because i mean they spent so much money as far as like the crypto people during this last election
uh you know as far as like lobby between ftx and the democrat party during the election
so maybe they were trying to hide money or run money through ftx somehow and then you know if
sam bankman freed is in prison, because
they can just say he's in prison and
he's living on an island somewhere, who knows?
But he was...
I hope he stays, but
who knows?
But yeah, I mean,
he was shitty, I mean, I think.
You know, and was running
it with like, what was it? Not QuickBooks. What was he
using? He was using something from fucking... I don't know. It was running it with like what was it not quickbooks what was he using he was using something from fucking i don't know it was like from from windows 95 when it first came on
the site or as far as like his accounting for how much money was going into that place but you know
was it pt barnum said you can't cheat you can't cheat an honest man you know you know you're not
supposed to be getting those kind of returns.
You know, I'm not shitting on the Merkle stuff.
I mean, I know what Gary and them are doing.
I know it's, you know, it's legit, you know, but, but, you know,
some of the other stuff like the, the, you know,
people longing or shorting something and then fucking, you know,
trying to replace it with their own token or whatever, whether it was,
Celsius was one of them.
Yeah, so we needed the Michilskis
and all those people to be
caught.
And of course, when you see somebody like that
Mr. Wonderful, the guy from the Shark Tank,
Kevin, whatever his name is,
bald guy,
and you see he's talking to like Ram,
Crypto Man Ram, see he's talking to like ram crypto man ram and he's and and and uh he's going
oh no i think sam bangman free is really smart and i would give him a job today it's like what
i wouldn't let the guy anywhere near a fucking bank what are you talking about you know that
guy shouldn't be able to walk a dog you know you know but uh there's there's a great there's a
great um clip i'll have to find that and shoot that if you haven't seen it.
It's like when Tom Brady was like one of the people that was going to be representing FTX.
And so they're shooting this up, this promo spot or whatever.
And he said, well, yeah, we came down and what do you say, Sam?
Well, like we'll sit there and we'll sit there and throw the ball back a couple of times.
And you can see he is just tweaked out his eyeballs.
I mean, just torqued.
As tight as you can get him.
And he's like just moving really weird and everything.
And all of a sudden he just loses interest and thought of something else down the hall he needs to go to.
And he just runs off in the middle of the shoot.
And there's Brady going, hey, Sam?
Sam, where are you going?
Sam, come back.
You know, it's like, yeah yeah so it's just yeah I guess you know who knows but but you know I think
he was also giving money to the Republicans but having somebody else a buddy of his or whatever
do it and doing it through dark some kind of dark pack, you know, so, but yeah, they've, he was this close to, you know, having legislation that, you know,
could have, you know, slammed us, you know, way, you know,
if that stuff had kind of gone into effect, you know,
I'm trying to remember what all it was they were pushing, but, uh,
I think they were getting close.
They were able to get into people's offices the same way APEC can now.
So, yeah, it's too bad.
I mean, money does kind of ruin a lot of things, you know.
There's things we need it for, but it's just, you know, I don't know.
I don't know how you regulate society or anything like that.
I don't think it needs to be regulated.
I think that 99% of people wouldn't do something bad naturally.
Most people wouldn't steal something unless they were impoverished, let's say.
And most people wouldn't want to stop gay people getting married.
Most people don't care, but it's this perception of the world through the media
that makes everyone divided and makes you think that there's boogeymen out there and yes there
are some crazy people out there but how many crazy people out there are also because they come from
loveless homes or they didn't get a digital tribe or a tribe when they grew up and stuff
so yeah i don't think we we do need maybe we need regulation but I think
there's more advantages of not having it than having it and that obviously
presumes one family and one group don't control everything because that's
different but if there's some sort of decentralization where everyone's
fairly equal I think humans are just good people.
At least the ones I've met are.
I've not met too many bad people ever, to be honest.
Couple, but like...
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, like you said, a couple.
I mean, and of course, you know, that could be a trace to things like,
and this is how Rome, you know, when they started going off the rails too also was but you know you know we got damn near every american city has still got lead
pipes in it you know so there's water drinking supplies you know um i didn't mention that
earlier fluoride is like i don't know if there's a more evil thing than that because we've got
population control yeah yeah 100 and and uh um um no one do you like pink floyd okay i got
you now um but the uh the i just i didn't even think about that but yeah it's uh have you read
the spirit molecule um dmt the spirit molecule by um what was the guy's name i can't think of
the guy's name now but i haven't read it though
no not read it that's a really good one that's that's uh um that's that's that's a good i can't
that's that's like the only like uh real study that they had or official study they had of it
like in in the u.s um i can't remember i mean i actually saw it in a supermarket here that book
it got around everywhere but um but you know so he did a thing where it was like a double blind study.
And it was like, you know, they were doing it through injection.
And he was talking about, you know, there was a placebo and then there was the other one.
And so, I don't remember if they shut it down or how they did that.
But, no, I guess he shut it down because he was talking about one of the things was that actually disturbed
him was they got after a while they got this sense and and you know like i said none of the none of
the uh uh whatever you call them the participants like were in contact with each other you know
didn't know each other kind of thing and so and this was out of like uh
new mexico or new mexico state i can't remember which one rick strassman rick strassman was the
guy's name by the way um but the uh um he was talking about and because i mean i've seen it
i've done the dmt thing where you know you smash the lotus or whatever and and uh if you can get
through that you know that that initial flower that gardenia or carnation or whatever,
and then you wind up in the control room like McKenna would talk about.
But the, oh, so this guy, so Strauss was saying, toward the end when he shut it down,
something that was coming through as far as like a commonality through through all the uh
people that were doing the study was they got the impression of there was something on the other side
of the door and it was malevolent and insectoid kind of and uh that was about the time they had
pulled the plug on it but uh you know so it was like that's that's disappointing it could be just
too much of a good thing. But who knows?
I don't know.
There's that whole thing like you can think of something independently of anybody else,
and somebody else can come up with the same thing too.
Because we're all kind of tapped into the Akashic record player is what I like to call it.
But it's just the Akashic record.
Sorry, I'm just being a stupid musician.
I'm just being a stupid musician.
But the, I mean, so, I mean, that's what, you can have stuff, you know, where, you know, people wind up getting tapped in.
That may be some kind of collective unconsciousness.
I don't know.
You know, but it's interesting.
And there's supposed to be something going down, I want to say, the 30th of next month.
It's like that Atlas 3 or whatever that is.
Some meteorite kind of
thing is headed this way um solar flares gonna be like at an all-time high and then uh some kind of
collective awakening is supposed to happen we'll see but it's uh or it could you know it could be
we just 30th and then the next thing you know, 31st.
Okay.
Happy Halloween.
Maybe it's this space.
You never know.
Maybe like all the people coming together in the Chia community, Tangang community and just Bitcoin, blockchain.
Maybe that's what this is.
And this is just people talking about it live.
it live. Like maybe this will bleed over into the, uh,
those moments and like, there'll be a wave of good that sort of washes away
the insect level insectoid level sort of small malicious entity that's trying
to do this. It's like, there's no chance they could win.
I hope so. I really hope so. I mean, you know, it's, uh,
what was that movie? Uh, uh, John Carpenter's they live with Rowdy,
Rowdy Piper. Love that movie.
That's a interesting one. Yeah. You could see the white lizards.
Yeah. And, and, and, but it was, they were using a frequent,
a frequency to cover up the way things really looked or whatever.
And they, and so they had to use a, what was it?
They had to use a damn pair of sunglasses that caused a headache when you took,
to cut through the frequency.
And then,
you know,
at the end they blow up the tower that was giving off the signal or whatever.
But,
but yeah,
spoiler people,
but it came out in 1987.
Fuck off.
if you haven't seen it now,
you know, go get, go find it, you know it you know but uh it's a good one um it's
yeah i mean you know and so i don't know i mean i think i think i have you done any of the stuff
like when you go to youtube and you just look up like the i can't remember what the number is but the the is it 586 or anyway it's it's it's a
it's it's a healing frequency have you ever looked at that stuff and put that stuff on
yeah i can't remember the frequency but it was i've heard a few of those like this is a healing
frequency and i must say it did it did something i'm not sure quite what it did it's pretty amazing i mean it's to me i
mean it's like i got really good sleep that night and you know of course it was annoying when it
would hit the pelvic region i'm going am i getting ready to ejaculate i don't even have an erection
what the hell's going on right now why am i tingling you know it's like uh uh you know it's
just yeah but but and i think that's supposed to be stuff, you know, now they switched to like the A440. I want to say that was done on behalf of the Rockefeller Foundation. They're not above suspect, you know what I mean?
It used to be you had the one-room schoolhouses, and they would teach grammar, language, and rhetoric.
And then the older kids taught the younger kids.
And I don't know if we went to Byrote on behalf of the Rockefeller Foundation or not,
but that seems like when just memorizing shit and, you know, what?
Reading, writing, and arithmetic.
R-I-T-H-M-T-I-K.
You know, that's the stupid song.
It's popular, you know.
But in school days, I guess is the name of the song.
But, yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, there's, I mean, why should, why should anybody go anywhere?
I mean, like, like college, I think is a bad thing these days.
You know, if you're not, college is supposed to help you get the next job.
You know, I mean, your real job into your career kind of thing.
You know, and then we're just fucking burying people under interest payments on loans they can't get out of, you know.
And my kid brother, who is kind of more liberal, I mean, he's more like me, I guess, than my
mother is, if you will.
And like I said, by liberal, I just mean freedom.
I just mean it's nobody's business if you do, you know.
And it's just, you know, do whatever, you know.
You know what I mean?
As long as you're not hurting somebody in the commission of you having a good time but uh you know like i said
i don't care who's using the girls bathroom because i don't go in the girls bathroom you know
um i don't think it's a boogeyman every fucking five five bathrooms you walk past like you were saying you know it's like just yeah just everybody chill the fuck out you know but uh
look you're right and if i remember right the fluoride
sorry um makes populations compliant right
yeah from looking at and this is like this is mind-blowing i think is that all
the i shouldn't say all but most of the world health sort of bodies, where you like look at, like in Thailand, let's say, the sort of like the National Health Association, it's like what looks like a pineal gland with two snakes wrapped around it.
Like, you're like, what?
Instead of the caduceus.
Say again, sorry.
Instead of the caduceus. Oh, instead of the caduceus oh i'm not sure what that is sorry that's that's the uh that's the symbol for the actual american medical
association um i can't remember i'll just look it up it's probably the same one c-a-d-u-e-c
or c-a-d-u-c-e-u-s or something like that. It's got like wings and serpents.
I want to say Mercury maybe carried it
and fucking
maybe Thoth had it as well who gave us
like...
That's the one.
That's the one, yeah. That is exactly the one.
The health things in Thailand
are that. And I guess
other health things, yeah, Tadushas.
I didn't know that learn something
every day but yeah it's two snakes wrapped around seemingly something important i mean
like why is that yeah i didn't i didn't
who knows i mean yeah i mean come on this this is orwellian to a certain point. You know, the opposite day kind of thing or whatever.
Department of Peace, you know, Department of War.
It's just, you know.
But things are not double plus good like they would have us believe.
But, yeah, I don't know why they use that for that um
and you know here's the question i mean what i would have to go back and look up the gods i
mean but yeah i don't i don't think they do those things without like you know
without some deliberate thought i mean like if you look at like the vatican
you know and some of the architecture there you know and then like uh
um you get like the uh what is it the the the thing that's like the washington monument i can't
think of what those things are called but there's the there's the one for saint peter but so if you
look at that and then like look straight onto the vatican that that one's looking like the stem of a
mushroom and then the uh the basilica or whatever the uh the other thing it looks like the canopy and everything
else you know so it's who knows i mean it's it's you know and and and the mushroom thing was it was
it was it was how our ancestors kind of you know as they came from being you know, it, I mean, McKenna's, his theory about, you know, like what made the human brain grow 5,000 times over, I don't know, 100,000 years.
An incredibly short amount of time, you know, anyway.
He thought it was dietary pressure and the drying of the grasslands and all that other kind of stuff that, you know, to where the rainforest kind of dried out and then, you know, became the grasslands.
And, you know, so they became kind of wandering and, you know, he thought dietary pressure and the psilocybin is what made the brain um expand and and so and and so it was like and there's there's you know
the mushrooms only grow in like you know the the the leavening that happens in the four stomachs
of you know some proto cow you know hominid cow or whatever you know the ungulate whatever they
call it thing but but yeah it's like the various leavenings or whatever
the multiple stomach thing and then you know and and they're bright you know so you know when you
got like he was talking about being down in the rainforest and saying like uh uh baboons or
chimps or something like picking up cow pies looking for grubs you know um if you're hungry i think it's going to stand out you know and uh uh he was
talking about like i guess they've done like these various tests and they were showing like
the very first thing that happens is visual acuity um increases you know and uh and so
so you get better hunting and then the next thing you get that goes on is sexual arousal.
So you get, you know, more successful copulations, which is requirement if we're not going to enter straight into the fossil record.
You know, and I mean, that's the whole deal about, you know, raise your kids long enough to not get eaten by tigers.
And your work should be done.
But, you know, it's not, you know,
but yeah, it's, it's, it's, I don't know. So, so yeah, it's, but you know,
so then, but then you had like agriculture. So you're talking about at some point,
you know, cause you know, and with the actual, uh,
or whatever you call that, the, the, the wandering or whatever, the, the,
you call that the the wandering or whatever the the i sorry um but yeah the the where people are
like you know nomadic peoples it was like you know um initially those were the tribe's children
you know and they were and they were you know like i said they were they would uh
uh they would you know do their various ceremonies or were kind of what he called a um uh what was it
ritualistic orgies essentially you know but then you know but once they you know noticed that uh
um noticed that you know things were growing or whatever
you know and they stopped moving and it suddenly became, you know, wait a minute, you know, the female knows whose kid it is.
But then the male became worried about my weapons, my woman, my children, you know.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I mean, it's to go back to like how you would do without money.
I don't know.
It'd be a great experiment.
It really would.
Well, let's say free energy is a thing that there's a big if there so and i can't say for sure there
is free energy but it looks like there is there's just too many like magnetism like just basic
experiments teslas things let's just presume free energy is a thing, which is a big presumption, but let's just presume
it is. So that means there's no
energy bills, and so then any technology
we've got can be free.
So if there's like an underground train network,
let's say, which I do think there
is, by the way, already built,
and that's a theory,
definitely a conspiracy theory, but
I've been thinking...
Gotta spend that NASA money somewhere.
Sorry, say again. Gotta spend that NASA money somewhere. Sorry, say again.
Got to spend that NASA money somewhere, bro.
That could explain where the money for the NASA went,
if the moon landing is a fake,
is the elite might think, well, I don't really want to try it.
If I was like an omnipotent power and I could control everything,
that remains secret, I definitely want like
an underground train because like Bangkok to Tokyo to LA in one day would be like that would change
everything but let's say that it's possible to be done free energy that that would mean free
train travel you wouldn't have to pay for it like there's no reason to it's free energy
so what would you then need money for?
Free food would be a thing for sure because cows fuck for free.
You can give a cow a nice life, let it live till it's 30, give it a handjob, shoot it in the back of the head.
That's far better than how most cows are treated now.
Yeah, factory farming.
Free food from free energy, free travel probably.
So what do you need money for that like paying rent well if all the rooms are owned by the elite well not all but like say a
big percentage then you may not need to pay rent because they might just say well don't lynch us
alive like you can have the houses right mortgages are finished so what would you need to pay for sex well no
don't need to pay for sex you can sort of just charm a girl and charm a guy if you're in if
you're gay whatever whatever you're into like you don't really i'm sorry my friend
i guess you probably have to pay for having the sex bot shipped to you from tokyo to texas maybe i'm guessing yeah well you could have a free sex
bot world where people can just go and have sex with different robots i mean it's not really my
thing but i don't see why that wouldn't be free too because free energy like what would it cost
what would you so you do have to trade though i think but then i think this the trade would come from skills
so therefore like nft artists and people who can craft like maybe a sort of a robot maker who can
craft a particularly uh like life like well i'm not sure there's different things like people who
make the best food in the world like maybe you would pay or trade something for that like i'd
love to eat the best ramen ever made and i would be willing to trade i know a thousand nfts of art for it let's say but
uh there's a room for trade but i don't know if it needs money per se it's like there's more
valuable things than physical paper and if energy is taken care of food is taken care of
then you've just got level what do i need to pay for
kind of thing so i don't think it's such a crazy idea as it might sound at first
obviously there's big presumptions is free energy a thing tesla i mean why did donald trump's was
it grandfather take all his patents or something when he died i don't know if you heard that one. No, I haven't.
Yeah, that was, I don't know if you ever heard, what was his name?
Bull and Bill. I think Bull and Bill was a personality in the GIA community.
He was like, he was like a bull, I guess.
But he said that Trump's grandfather took all of Tesla's basically designs and just took them. That was it gone and tesla died uh
poor i guess so they say uh i don't know yeah i know i know yeah it was it was so it was trump's
dad that did that or grandfather grandfather yeah might be worth a google search or a chat gpt search
although it could be censored from the off but i think it's i think
it's in the realm of its accepted fact rather than being a potential theory i could be wrong though
well i know that i know that like for example like like tesla didn't do some of the paperwork
because he was like incredibly loyal to westinghouse i guess and so you know and then when
he died or whatever that's when fucking oh what's his name jp morgan made his move so, you know, and then when he died or whatever, that's when fucking, uh,
what's his name?
JP Morgan made his move by on,
you know,
on behalf of the,
the,
the Rothschilds,
I believe,
you know,
but he did the thing that the,
the,
where he fired the energy from Colorado Springs to LA.
Is that what it was?
I think so.
Yeah.
I think it was a fighter charge.
And what was the loss?
Was it something like less than 1%?
I mean,
it was insane.
And I know that like,
you know,
JP Morgan was like,
that's fantastic.
What are you going to charge for?
He goes,
nothing.
I'm going to give it to him for free.
And then he was like,
you know,
click that switch off.
Interestingly enough, JP Morgan's like one of the fucking first people to have like uh a lit christmas tree in his window for people to see
and so they could push you know people you know smashing the candle industry and getting you know
electric housing and everything right yeah, plug it into the wall.
And this idea of the Tesla coil
is that those electrical towers that you see,
I guess in most places in the country,
is that they can maybe suck energy out the sky somehow.
And they're charging you for electricity
that's basically free is one theory of it.
I don't know if that's true,
but I mean, it kind of makes sense.
I think they're generating their own.
I mean, they're certainly running shit through those lines,
but I don't think that thing works like it.
I don't think those things work like Tesla coils,
the actual things that you see from the power companies.
That's just smoke in the air and all that other kind of bullshit but the uh
um you know it's like it's i wish they would go back and look at that stuff though because it's like you know but i think that also tied into like you know as far as like the tartaria stuff
where i run across on that it's like the buildings were like uh the the architecture that you know we
had no kind of business building in 1880 or whatever.
You know, it's like these buildings they were talking about are set up with, like, various residents.
And they were like, you would run healing frequencies.
And I guess all the bells were, like, removed from the fucking towns and everything kind of thing.
Yeah.
Bullets for the war whatever
bullets for the war they needed ammunition so that's why they had to mount that melt down the
top the the town centers you know fucking but that was the people's center i mean it was like
their their spiritual gathering place where and supposedly like i said these things um
these various frequencies were
healing you know you know that's a great starting point like if you were just hypothetically
building a new town somewhere in the like having a bell that's rung that people can go and stand
next to like at six every day or something yeah yeah that sounds amazing like maybe this will happen in the future if we talk about it enough
or someone will listen in and be like oh well fuck it i'll stick a bell in a field and
see what happens but i'd like that'd be relaxing anyway even if it doesn't
shake demons out or whatever just to hear basically live music standing next to other people
i mean why not yeah oh 100 i mean that's yeah that's that's
interesting to me you know it's like you know when i was in the army i was like i was i was in
the army band too i mean it was like i couldn't believe i got sent to fucking desert storm
but um i was like what am i doing here you know but but the uh and i'm playing some stupid Sousa march.
And it's like, you know,
to make people who don't listen to Sousa music.
Sousa music was an important win.
The Spanish War and fucking
World War II or whatever.
Because we had to go kill Hedla.
Come on, boys.
It's like...
But yeah, so I'm over there playing that shit. And it's like, but yeah, so I'm over there playing that shit.
But it's like one of the things we would do every year on July 4th, we would play the 1812 Overture, which has nothing to do with American Independence by Tchaikovsky.
But the bells in the actual recording of the piece,
I mean, I'm sure you've heard it a gazillion times,
you know, the 1812 Overture.
But it's like those bells are magical, you know?
And, you know, a lot of times we'll do some of these
like symphonic recordings.
I guess they've still got bells some places in Europe, you know,
but yeah, I mean, I saw, I saw photos where they were showing one.
It was like this, it was like, Oh yeah,
this was taken down because it was needed for the war.
And instead it was buried in some farmer's field, you know, just hidden,
you know,
I mean, that's a lot of know, just hidden, you know. Jeez.
I mean, that's a lot of circumstantial or real evidence there.
Like, why are they getting rid of bells?
Of all the things that you think don't pose a threat,
like they're building cannons, they're building directed energy weapons,
bells, get rid of them.
It is weird.
If it's a no smoke without fire thing,
then it does suggest something's going on with it for sure. Sound, it's a no smoke without fire thing, then it does suggest something's going on with it, for sure.
Sound, it's a frequency we don't even really understand.
I mean, you know what it sounds like, I guess,
but then again, everyone hears something different anyway
because human ears and all that, different frequencies.
But, yeah, for sure.
It should really, yeah, I need to think about this more.
I need to listen about this more. I need to listen.
Do you listen to a diary of a CEO? You ever listen to that guy's podcast?
That rings a bell, but I can't, I'm not sure.
That's funny. Yeah, he, he's, he's good. He has some, he has some interesting guys on there. Like
he had it, he had a guy there,, something called, like, Ways to Well.
But anyway, this guy, I can't remember his name, but he was talking about he used to be a data analyst or whatever for, like, the insurance companies.
And he was talking about he could look at your medical chart and pretty much tell you, you know, after a quick glance, like, within, I don't know, a month of whatever, when you were going to die based on these five markers that he looked for, you know, after a quick glance, like within, I don't know, a month of whatever,
when you were going to die based on these five markers that he looked for, you know, and,
and he was spot on. And of course he couldn't tell the people about it because they were bound by law or something like that. And he was like, man, why am I telling you? I forget what made
him quit, but he finally had, he was like, I need to be able to tell them they can do this and avoid these certain things.
So he was talking about the very first,
and it's one of
those that they've kind of pulled down, and it's really hard
to find that episode now. But it was like
the guy was just talking about
there's certain things that
out of all the DNA,
we supposedly got the gazillion
amounts of it that is
almost the same as a chimp, the last whatever part, you know, whatever percentage and blah, blah, blah.
And the but so he was talking about he looks at these five indicators and he goes and if the and the first one is something that's real easy to get.
We can actually make a synthetic whatever it is.
That's a good replacement for that.
Because he was saying, otherwise your
foundation is already busted or off,
you know, kind of thing. And then nothing's going to stack right
kind of thing. But it's like, it's one
of those that, like, it just kind of disappeared.
It's not around nearly
as much as some of his other
episodes, you know. It's like, god damn it.
You know, of course. You know, we start
cutting in on the fucking the fake medical industry or the fake, you know it's like god damn it you know of course you know we start cutting in on the uh
the the fucking the the fake medical industry or the fake you know whatever you know i mean it's
just like it's it's yeah there's there's a lot of toes that are gonna get stepped on to go to zero
money yeah but if there's only one group controlling it all, they would have the power to basically give the thumbs up.
Like you said, the Rockefellers before.
Like, why are they sort of linked to the what did you say it was the like medical the caduceus?
Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, because they set up they set up the American fucking educational system, among other things.
But yeah, and of course, they have things like, they also did things like the mining massacre in Ludlow, Colorado, where they had the union was on strike.
They were in tent communities by the railroad.
And so what they did was they just started a, they just pushed a a flat car and then you know let it roll on its own downhill and then as i drove by the tents they opened up
with a gatling gun you know so uh he had he had to do some uh had to do a little bit of uh what
do they call it uh brand uh brand brand improvement or you know make something to make him more palatable.
I don't remember what it was that he did at that point
to try and give things back, but, you know,
that's probably why he was coming up with various
foundations, but, you know, it's the whole...
I don't know.
There's, from a more modern time, I can't remember
who the rich man was that said he could
pay one half of the poor to kill the other
half of the poor. That's nice, but that's probably true you know what is that that's the gal wow
the uh the asian koel k-o-e-r but it's in thailand It's called the Gow Wow. It's, it goes go. Well, you can hear what it goes like.
Right on.
That's just nice.
Well,
not when it starts at three in the morning and goes till 10 in the morning
outside your window. It's not, but it's, I got garbage trucks.
I got garbage trucks all hours of the night doing that shit. So I mean,
it's just like, it is all the,
although I'd probably it'd be still enough there i'd lay there and start worrying about
okay what's slithering my way you know so um but uh did you uh
how long have you been in thailand oh 17 years now oh fantastic yeah i just got my five-year visa
like three days ago.
I was in Vietnam for like three weeks.
It was meant to be one, and I was running out of visa options,
and I was under incredible pressure.
And then five years I've got now, so, yeah,
I'm set here for at least half a decade.
I want to go to Vietnam so bad.
Of course, I'm worried about any kind of karmic sins of the father thing.
I mean, they would be well within their rights to shoot me just based on what my dad probably killed several Vietnamese.
Yeah, I got the impression I was in Da Nang.
Oh, Da Nang is so beautiful.
The beach there, it's so relatively cheap and you don't get hassled.
It's like an hour from Bangkok by flight.
But no, there was no animosity or feeling of there's lots of americans australians it was you wouldn't
know anything had happened so i'm sure you'd be good there of course i am trying to go to a place
that doesn't have a lot of americans we're not very good tourists by the way we're you know that
ugly american thing came from somewhere you know but but I try not to be one of those.
You live in such a beautiful country.
You could travel like most of your life and not see any of it relatively.
So I could see why people don't travel out of America.
Yeah, I mean, there's people that, you know, never leave the county that they went to high school in or whatever, you know.
I guess that's everywhere, though, isn't it?
To some degree.
The same in Thailand.
It's the same in England.
People don't leave the thing.
Right for the friends.
But I don't think they have that kind of village
identity in the
small hick towns in the US
that a village would in Thailand or whatever.
Yeah, I guess a different culture
and it's newer and stuff, more malleable.
I guess the Philippines,
I want to know why they've got so many people
that can sing like Journey.
I don't understand that at all.
But-
That is why they're brilliant singers.
So many of the singers in thailand are filipino
i don't know maybe they just practice from birth or from a young age and they're better but or
maybe their vocal cords are just better for like if you want people next to a bell singing live
it's probably filipino people beautiful voices interesting are we by the way we've got two
minutes coming up and then monkey zoo space is starting
yesterday's space my god
one of the best spaces in chia history
he mapped out a whole project
basically finished it minus the work
which could argue is a lot of it too
but conceptually it's done and monkey
zoo space is starting in two minutes
so I did accept your request earlier
monkey zoo I'm not sure if it
didn't bring you up for some reason.
Can you hear me?
Oh, sorry, on my phone, yeah, it's not showing you.
Yeah, welcome, welcome.
Yeah, I was a listener as well.
So, yeah, I wasn't sure.
Oh, there you go.
Anyway, yeah, yeah, it was a good space yesterday, wasn't it?
I think we'll carry on the momentum today and see what we can push,
see if we can come up with some additional ideas today. that's the plan anyway that's brilliant yeah rock and roll the way you
did it was so i don't know it energized me at the end of it i was like this is what this is all
about like this is not just talking this is building as well and it was a magical what you
did build it building it open yeah it's kind of um it's kind
of interesting to go through that process kind of live in a space and uh yeah i know it's a three
hours is a long space but you know if you even if you put it on two times and listen back you kind
of go through that process don't you of what you do when you come up with an idea or even to come
up with an idea so uh yeah it was
good fun it's good fun but um yeah i'm going to jump down i'll go far up the next space and we'll
uh we'll carry on the carry on that momentum i think awesome i'll catch you in a bit see you in
a bit monkeys yeah brilliant stuff because i'm working on the backgrounds. I'm really happy to do that. That's like a dream there.
And there's four people created in the team.
And we've got the project coming out on the,
I think there was going to be an auction on the last day of the 222.
And there's going to be, I think, 222 pieces.
50% is going to the artist who was just there first.
50% is going to the artist who was just there first 50% is going to
developers somehow and I think this is all to be decided and signed off on etc
but it's it sounds like it's brilliant it's really good so yeah I guess thanks
for coming up Lee yeah anytime you welcome anytime and I'm on again the
and I'm on again the same time tomorrow so maybe more yeah probably say hey
same time tomorrow so
so I will pop in and say hey so but uh maybe I'll see you over in a monkey
space yeah I'll be jumping right there so I say no to fluoride guys no to
fluoride because it's linked to two snakes being wrapped around the pineal
gland so perhaps I'll close it there
good deal
we've never been to the moon
