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222 HR Chia Marathon Space 🌱
Recorded: Sept. 23, 2025 Duration: 2:42:34Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the Chia Network's strategic partnerships, the launch of innovative projects like Remelia Net, and the growing emphasis on transparency and community engagement in the crypto space. With insights into liquidity pools and potential yields, the conversation highlighted the evolving landscape of decentralized finance and the importance of individual contributions to collective success.
Full Transcription
Thank you. I'm going to go to the next video. So so
welcome welcome Welcome, welcome.
Bullets was holding it down for me.
I could not sleep last night going through some things on my end,
but I passed out right as the sun reintroduced itself to my day.
I kind of couldn't hold on much longer, but...
But I'm here.
And I've got things we can talk about.
I will be positive, man.
My first space in the marathon
spaces, we've, you know,
we did all the fear stuff.
We did all the scary
conspirator
and all that stuff. So this space
we'll do, we'll have
a little bit more of a fun fun space
what a bullish appreciate you holding that down man if
you know it's bad when you don't have to wake up on time for anything and you're still late for
everything but i appreciate you and i hope that everyone's having fun during the
the chia marathon spaces yeah dude no doubt uh thank you uh dude listen i i ended the space
with uh no friends in the industry because luckily we have friends in the industry
while other people don't so you know we can be understanding we know people got stuff going on
in real life time zones different stuff so you know we got can be understanding. We know people got stuff going on in real life, time zones, different stuff.
So, you know, we got friends in the industry and we just pull up and support.
Yeah, I appreciate you and holding it down like that, man.
And it's true.
The Tang Gang has friends in the industry.
You know, some people might not know this, but there's a company called the Chia Network Incorporated.
Some people might not know this, but there's a company called the Chia Network Incorporated, and they actually serve on as counsel to the Crypto White House Task Force.
And there's been rumors that there are m'ladies working in the White House, but there is actual verifiable on-chain proof that Tang Gang is in the White House.
So there's just levels to this shit, you know?
I'm enjoying my Remelia Net experience, but it's just not quite like, you know, Tang Wireless.
So levels to this shit, what do you do, you know?
So what if their PFfp sell for i just
saw someone sweep a m'lady for like 8 700 yesterday geez louise dude she's louise but of course it was
someone that already had one you usually find that they just want to be the m'lady and the end of the
year is coming so they gotta stack up the assets for losses yeah i think it might have been a legit sale because they're they're pretty disgusting
in the they're like pretty deep in the m'lady lore so it could be legit but
you know i mean they've they've certainly ascended to the uh kind of the mountaintop
of the culture war as far as the evm is concerned it's so peculiar too because so the two stated goals of m'lady i know
this doesn't seem chia related but it absolutely is and and i think it'll be a fun topic to kind of
spin off of into the two stated purposes of remelia corp of the m'lady movement are to effectively create the new wave of postmodern art aesthetic
for all kind of internet natives to assemble on and contribute toward.
And then two is to invent the new internet.
So Remelionet launched recently.
It's, you know, a website with some little games. It's got some really nice aesthetic and stuff. But those two goals of RemeliaCorp are kind of worth noting because it's the driving force behind their approach to this decentralized and autonomous kind of hive mind collective.
You know, they're all about network spirituality.
The thing, I've been in Milady for a long time.
I don't do Milady posting on my main accounts because I was in before all of these faggots.
And it's important that you know that you're just giving up your autonomy.
One of the things I identified very early on in Remiglia was the anonymity dominates the accountability.
People put their regular voice behind their m'lady PFP and they think that they are, you know, somehow like protected and they're allowed to just schizo post or something. human voice, your unfiltered voice, probably be tied to a movement where you can hold yourself
accountable and hold others accountable and not end up wearing the same armband as someone
that goes on to commit horrible atrocities. And so people are going to learn the hard way
the difference between being at the top of the thought pyramid and being in the
army of aesthetics because for those of you who were around in the early days we went through
some things with some questionable online taboo topics and uh and that's never gonna end it's
all part of the uh it's all part of the lore it's all part of the lore. It's all part of the LARP. But, um, how is it Chia related?
Well, I'll tell you how it's Chia related. Chia is a much less, uh, funny business blockchain.
There are much more real world, serious applications, institutional applications.
And even with that being said, uh, Chia is not interested in doxing, you know, everybody there.
They understand privacy is a fundamental human right. They
understand pseudonymity and the powers that are contained within. And so the kind of interesting
balance in Shia culture is that of the original cypherpunks and having that anonymity and that decentralized ethos and yet accepting that the
rubber does meet the road, that the world does operate at the threads of relationships and
pulling them this way and that. So it's more powerful to be able to opt in and opt out of your identity. And there's really no sustainable way
to do that in a community where there's zero accountability. You know, we talk about,
it's probably considered like the internet with training wheels by m'lady standards. We don't necessarily commit to psychological operations that prey on young,
impressionable minds to catch them, you know, biting off more than they can chew in the world of
free speech and accountable speech and a recorded everything internet so in the tang gang we might not run around starting a anorexia
nazi death cult uh just as like a fun tuesday mini game um but we absolutely you know are able
and allowed to talk about whatever we want it's just that there's a level of reputation that
exceeds the profile picture because so many people are participating
with human verifiable credentials like a token gated discord and stuff and so
it's not to say one way is better than the other it's just that they are very different
i'm a part of both communities but you guys don't ever get to see my m'lady posting, right? That's by design. So I kind of prefer a world where I don't have to pretend that there's anonymity in most of the channels of the internet where there empirically is not.
But people that have the sophisticated tools can absolutely unwind that mysterious cloaked figure behind the
monitor. And I don't have anything that I'm working on that requires top secrecy, so it's
just for me, it's not that interesting. I think that a lot of the issues that we experience in
our age are due to a lack of transparency and due to a lack of
accountability and due to a lack of dissemination of transparent information to the public.
So my arc that I've been on for a few years is that of much more forthcoming transparency.
And the Tang Gang, you don't have to be doxxed. You don't have to say, my name is Ted Williams and I play for the New York Yankees. But you can if you want to. And I think that's a very powerful thing because you understand that your community isn't here to create incendiary or inflammatory reputation at your expense. It doesn't mean that people, you know, take it from me,
it doesn't mean that people in the Tang Gang
are going to say some wackadoodle shit, you know,
and you could somehow, I guess, be affiliated with that,
but the intention is not to sort of burn down
the ethereal town square for the sake of making a really good Hitler joke.
But who's joking about
Hitler, am I right?
That would take some kind of
insane person.
And we're very sane
here at the Tang Gang. That's why these
straitjackets are pressed and ironed.
Because we know
what it means to present ourselves professionally.
But anyway, I'd like to get into some Chia-related things,
and their Tang Gang-related things as well,
because I'll be honest with you guys, I'm Tang Gang first and foremost.
I know that we love the level of transparency and hands-on information and and probably life-changing
information right that we get from the chia network incorporated team and that we learn from
gene and bram and the developers in the community and we get to do a lot of really cool projects and
collaborations but the reason uh that i place the gang above Chia is because I can fork
Chia you cannot fork the Tang gang and the idea of the longest chain is merely a temporary beacon
the longest chain in Bitcoin today is not the longest chain that started Bitcoin.
And the reason that I say it is people should know that the power comes from the people.
And so claiming the Tang Gang is the higher organization is kind of tongue-in-cheek because the thing that makes it so valuable as an organization is the
decentralized and autonomous part of it
Because I tweeted that last night during a
Foods
bearish
Space which I love you know
nice
But that was essentially the sentiment you can fork all this shit you can't
fork the community exactly you know and that's and that's what m'lady has going for them as well
right remelia corp has taken it now they they early on you know charlotte feng early on identified
a desire to lead a uh kind of like philosophical it feels shitty to call it a cult, but I think it's
probably appropriate just because of the level of sort of replicant behavior that you see
without there necessarily being like a pipeline for education and the point is probably that the emotion and the lifestyle and the
expressive decisions are more valuable than the framework of a white paper you know there is the
um the network spirituality papers and stuff like that but it ultimately is going to come down to
you can't control people people do whatever they want at the end of the day we're dealing with human beings
yeah and it's all lifestyle and culture yeah at the root of it it's all lifestyle and culture
and you got to give people translate that to whatever religious political crypto music whatever
it's all lifestyle and culture yep that's why's why. You got to be willing to tolerate flexibility.
And that's where they were very smart early on to take an uncancellable, their post-cancelled technology, right?
And that's useful.
And that's useful, but pre-cancelled technology comes with all of these other benefits and features that are not afforded to the post-cancelled.
And there's nothing that says the pre-cancelled can't become the post-cancelled, so it's worth holding on to.
As you will find, post-cancelled is a heavy barrier to entry when you're dealing with institutional adoption from individuals that are publicly doxed.
There's enough owned identity and kind of doxxed persona that with enough of us being forthcoming, they can operate with a group of people and not be subjected to insane internet psyoping and friction to what they're trying to build. So it's just, I like to use Milady
because they're absolutely a globally identified aesthetic
at this point.
And their artwork has grinded through years of speculation
and market changes up and down and left and right.
And eventually those of us who enjoy the journey,
we, you know, just kind of outlast the ability
to not find those things valuable.
Shit.
That's the perfect layout.
Cause in the grand scheme of things,
you, me, we're all small fry, right?
Like we're dealing with, like you said, the co-CEOs, the CEOs of the world, etc.
Like, you know this because I told you this in DM.
And you can share this if you want.
There was only one motivating factor why I ended up going to Toronto,
even though I knew I was a small fry.
Because Tanga has got to represent on international soil or what well yeah i told you like
we're getting to a level where you're not gonna be there and they know who we are on the internet
it comes to a certain point where you need to look at each other eye to eye and like skin to skin
shake hands and like say hey right foolish right and you know that's like I I
had the pleasure of getting to talk to G I know we call it like an interview but I got to chat with
Jean on you know the Tang gang con back in the day and put a little face-to-face and voice-to-face
in the chat and stuff like that so they're going to be doing business with people
who have reputations that precede them.
The least we could probably do is extend a physical hand
to shake, you know, as we can put them down.
Yeah.
A little FaceTime goes a long way.
So at least say, hey, I know you're a real person,
which is a lot of the stuff we've been saying,
which makes the tank gang different from everyone else.
Verifiable,
real people.
Yep.
And that's why I use my lady as a comparison is because they're,
they're very close.
They have token gated websites,
you know,
but there's still so much opportunity for, like,
botnets and Sybil attacks.
Not that that's the measure of whether or not a community is successful or not,
it's just a...
It's difficult for people who are not initiated
in the deep lore of the internet
to be able to discern if they're in the room with real people
or not. And that's part of what Milady does is Milady posting is obfuscating the autonomy
through this hive mind like response network. So, um, you know, Charlotte Fang recommended a book to
a woman on the timeline. She replies and, and then, you know, 300 people reply
m'lady. And that's something that goes a long way for m'lady, having the brand being
architectured and designed for mass social peer pressure, like subtle peer pressure and psychological impressionability so um that is all fine and dandy
if you are running a cult uh but me personally i've never wanted to end up where richard ends
up i've never wanted to in any way be seen as like the architect of other people who have free will but
they give it up to you know make me happy or something it's like i don't know that's a little
fucked up to me i don't enjoy that at all um i like to be on the team i don't want to be
i don't want to be like the fucking the reality is that most of us
going back to like lifestyle and culture
unless you've been
living under a rock you have
some sort of
path
or roots to
religion whatever that may be
you already most of us already
believe in a higher power
a higher power let alone believe in mankind.
So the thought of that in itself is already from the beginning.
I've been vocal about this from the beginning.
I'm not maxy about any fucking human being.
I will tell Richard, Gene, all of them suck my dick from the back.
Like, don't get me wrong.
Do I have respect for them?
Yes.
But I'm not going be but let me get in on that let me get in on that because people who don't know i didn't choose the
hex orange address for the hex or for the address i chose it for the orange in in my studies okay i i live less than 10 minutes from a
masonic lodge which is right next door to a carnegie stout public library and both of those
buildings are built with far more sophisticated stonework than everything else on the block other than the
churches, which are a little further down the road. And in these mystery schools and in these
secret societies, there's a perversion of sun worship. There's the idea of the fallen angel Lucifer becoming the all-influential
force of kind of the Promethean fire, justifying this innovation and this total mastery of
mathematics and architect that the plebs, the plebeians are not adept enough to appreciate
and understand. And so regular people become the exit liquidity for secret societies. And that's,
we can trace these secret societies and their teachings back thousands of years to like
the Canaanites and the worship of Baal, the final boss in Diablo 2 expansion pack,
Lord of Destruction.
And what was that guy's name?
Kane?
Who were the...
Nephilim.
Anyway, listen, Diablo's a great game.
Elon Musk agrees.
And so for me,
there was an opportunity to one-shot a cult of personality while simultaneously holding a timeless thread to a muse, the orange, which is the fruit that most embodies the sun in its form and to be able to take the kind of stolen and manufactured power of these secret
societies and to strip them of their secrecy and to fully blast publicly their symbology and their codified mysticisms and things like that because
we live in a world where this is an unavoidable reality of many of the foundations of some of
the largest institutions, some of the longest standing developments in society and in culture. And so for me, there was an opportunity to
enlighten a group of individuals by using a harmless muse, one that I knew, right? I can
always just avail more transparency. So I was the first to dox. I was the first to show my men to pervert nature and to
harm others. I don't care about those things. I have a master's degree. I have multiple
undergraduate degrees. I'm educated. I understand enough to be dangerous, but I am not interested
in turning other free people into my tools. They're not cattle to me,
they are not tools to me, they are people. And as someone who has a large curiosity engine in his
brain and wants to learn and to appreciate and to wrestle with the unknown and things like that, there was a unique opportunity to
effectively invert the formula of bottom-up worship and create this totally dispersed and
diffuse community of individuals who are all allowed to be the boss and who no one works for. And the reason that's
so important is because in these secret societies and in these ancient mystery schools, the secret,
the great mystery that they want to withhold from you is that they ain't shit. They ain't cracked up
They ain't cracked up to shit. the most reach, maintain their resource advantage and their reach advantage by effectively cutting off the talents of those who believe themselves to be contributing to some higher organization when in fact they are the exit liquidity of the cult.
And so we see these societies. We can look at even Donald Trump's family. We can look at almost every American president. We can look at all of the royal families and all of the secret knowledge holders of the golden ratio and the golden circle.
And they, you know, utilize these mathematic, universal, inescapable truths to produce beautiful architecture and to convince everyone that they are allowed to genocide whoever they want because
they figured out pie or something like that um and so for me the opportunity to basically dive
headfirst into a cult of personality and then uproot it by being able to outperform the secret schools while sharing all the secrets.
While giving the people the peace of mind that these are not individuals who have achieved a level of dominance through sheer free competition.
It is almost entirely the opposite.
It's almost entirely constructed and concocted
through these complex doing away with
of people's freedoms and talents.
And so the Hex Orange Address
is all about the orange
because that is the timeless muse.
It looks like the bright orange sun is all about the orange, because that is the timeless muse.
It looks like the bright orange sun, and in the olden days,
the mystery priests would charge you money and submission to bring the sun back. The idea was that the uninitiated did not have any understanding of the movement of the sun. They didn't understand the movement of the earth. They didn't understand the celestial bodies. They had no idea that there was a physical reality, these mechanisms that, you know, space-time have on these heavenly bodies. And so as long as they didn't know that the movement of the,
you know, starscape could be charted and could be predicted, then it would be possible for these
leaders to convince the public potentially that they were the ones communing with God and communing with the sun and being able to invite it back to rise again.
And so the idea of the community that the Hex Orange Address sort of originates from is that
there is this one person who's constantly telling you, buy my bags, do as I say, and I will make
the green candles return in the future. And then the idea
is if the green candles haven't returned, you have failed. You have upset the sun god. You have been
the cause for this inability to get what you want. It's not the priest. It's not the heavenly
communal priest. It's the dipshit who didn't pay enough money to me personally who caused the green candles to not arrive on time. disproportionately rise above the will of open competition are issues that are so deeply rooted
in human history that if we don't ever address them, we are likely going to find ourselves
wound up in a perverse nature, not one that we align with spiritually.
And so for me, I'm willing to miss out on the invites.
I'm willing to not get to do the secret handshake.
I'm willing to not get my asshole played with all sorts of things that I sacrifice because Because for me, more powerful than the mystery of the horned transgender demon god that they're in love with, Bahamut.
I don't give a fuck about any of that.
I believe in Jesus Christ, and that's a personal thing.
I also believe in the Constitution of the United States of America.
And I was talking about in the last bit – it's so funny. You guys probably thought I was going on all that crazy talk because it's just a crazy person.
But it's actually very relevant in my opinion, especially when we're dealing with global blockchain.
It's for Americans.
The thing I liked, the more I research Chia and their people, look at who one of their infamous legal counsels are, Preston Byrne, the founder of the Marmot coin.
Preston Byrne is a diehard constitutionalist from everything I gather in his posts.
And Gene often cites constitutional law and American law. And that to me is a really cool thing because
in these secret societies, there's an idea of a push toward this one world government,
one world military, new world order you've heard. And in order to get there, you have to
bastardize the constitution. You have to remove the freedom of expression, the freedom from religious persecution. You have to be able to remove certain constitutional inalienable rights. Those are God-given rights that are bestowed upon you at birth as a creature of God.
People who believe themselves to be working on behalf of the deity power, they don't want you to have the autonomy and the freedom to be able to speak your mind and to be able to believe whatever you choose to believe and things like that. And so when you look at the council for Chia, you find people that are staunch pro-First Amendment. So much so that Preston
Burns, who kind of, I think he lives and works in the UK primarily, despite being American-born,
he's willing to fight on the frontier of free speech regardless of where the battle begins to take place. Because it's those inalienable rights that have laid the foundation who are allowed to own their relationship with God.
The ideas, the Pharisees, the mystery priests, those people put themselves a middleman attack.
They put themselves between you and your faith with God.
And they say, talk to me. I'll talk to God. He'll chat me up. I'll
get back to you and tell you how much you owe me to get to heaven. And that we see these kinds of
things as we look out into the world, right? Look at all of these blockchains. How do they operate?
Peer to middleman to peer, right? And then with Chia, it's like, why? You have to explain why you
need to walk behind the curtain and talk to God. Why can't I come with? Why can't I talk to God?
Oh, because I don't have robes or something? I didn't go to your college and sleep with your
roommate or something? Like, okay, well, that's, that's fascinating,
but people deserve better than that. You know, what's fascinating about that? I guess we'll go
to Stylo because he has his hand up. Um, uh, to your point, dude, everything you said was spot on.
I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Um, regardless of what religion you're in, the one thing they teach you is that God is within you.
Right.
The kingdom of God is within man.
Not one man.
Not a group of men, but all men.
You, you have the power to make this life free and beautiful.
In the 17th book of St. Luke it is written.
Anyway, Stylo, what is up?
What's up, guys?
How y'all been?
Fantastic. You know, I don How y'all been? Fantastic.
I'm alive, baby.
They didn't pull it off.
So I'm doing quite well.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you be rattling things off, but I'm going to rewind it a little bit.
Probably about five minutes ago, you said that you were the reason that the green candles haven't shown up yet.
this whole time I thought it was too spooky.
It is.
That's too spooky. It's too spooky.
Fault.
Yes.
Yeah.
The idea is that we,
the people are not paying enough in tithings to the great sun priestess,
Ricardo Corazon.
And so El Diablo continues to reign over our chart. Sun Priestess Ricardo Corazon and so
El Diablo continues
to reign over our chart.
Not that I own any of that
shit anymore, but
those are
things that's why, hey,
the people that have been
listening to me are far
further along than the people that have been listening to him.
It's just that I've had to go into muddy places to pull them over but we're gonna do just fine um and
it sucks because it's kind of it kind of almost looks like a sick game at a distance it almost
kind of looks like toiling people's fates and it is. It's really fucked up, and I don't ascribe to it.
It's also why I do a lot of hosting my own spaces, is because I have things I want to say, but I'm not canvassing them over other people's platforms.
I'm happy to stand on my soapbox and talk about whatever I want to talk about. And people can come and go or ignore me if they want. I'm not interested in trying to convince you that you
need me or must believe me. I'm going to tell you what I see and what I believe. And if you agree,
it's compatible. It's an open network. It doesn't require worship. It doesn't require
tithing. It doesn't require any of that shit you just gotta
come as you are and do the best that you can and so for me i i look around at what chia brings to
the table and dude it makes me really optimistic it gives me a feeling of there are some people
who look dude if they if they are the lizard, if they are the antichrist, new world order, CBDC blockchain, good for them.
They never talk about that stuff.
They only seem to talk about the principles of the cypherpunk ideals, and they only seem to build technology that is open source, equitable, and powerful for a purpose.
So if they're the ones that are going to do it, man, I'm not even sure they know it.
They must be a little too busy trying to help people to even realize that they're coming in hot.
I'll say it.
This 33 to 40 shit to me is not a surprise.
That's why I was on the whole March Man and stuff.
Not saying I don't or didn't believe in dunktober
um but right but there's no benefit to trying to guess the first day of well it's not even that
like out of their hands right no for sure and it's out of their hands they can easily hit you
with the ropey dope and i'm not saying what they did is bad time will tell like everything that we've
experienced over the past couple of years time reveals all and time will tell if this was the
best move or not right that said yep all you have is time and you're in control
yeah and that's something that my spaces are about, these marathon spaces.
Let it be known that I don't give up.
The difference between you and me is when I say I don't give up, I mean I'm going to fucking die not giving up.
You just mean you don't feel like giving up.
I meant it's not an option.
I burned the boats.
There's no going back.
You came in on a boat? I did i did bro we were on the inside you know how bro you guys don't i came in on a floaty wrap you just have any idea
if we were on the opposite side how
it's ridiculous to think the amount of money we could have made if we were on the other side
i know it's so funny it's like i just i'm just not motivated by money that's what they always
fail to calculate in their schemes bullish has been on so many calls with me where people try
to put me in their pocket dude that's any note like as soon as the conversation i've been on
calls where it's like fuck bullies what What's the number? And I'm there listening like a fucking fly on the wall.
And I'm like, holy shit.
By the other side, do you mean like the ops?
Yeah, just people that are, you know, weapons.
People who have whatever motives that they have.
We've been in many calls where some of them have turned fruitful for the 10 gang and the other party involved
and some of them just been a complete waste of time we've seen it all that's why we move a
certain way nowadays compared to how we were moving two years ago yeah and they've just gotten
smart they used to send all the king's horses and all the king's men how did i know they were
a criminal syndicate because when the champion couldn't get it done,
they'd send in the fresh blood.
When the fresh blood couldn't get it done,
they'd send the veteran back.
And eventually, there's only so many people
coming and going from my mailbox,
and I start realizing they're all wearing
the same colored pants.
All the king's horses, all the king's man the volley extractors you guys you guys do
understand let me let me you know what for the chia friends in the room let me give you a little
history lesson on the tang gang okay this is some lore most people don't know There was a time over two years ago where I identified malicious intent and destructive behavioral choices from individuals lying about why it is they are using blockchains and they were raising exorbitant sums of money to fail to deliver any kind of meaningful product.
And I kind of decided to start poking them right in the fucking forehead.
And by doing so, I attracted some of the most abhorrent, kind of out of the weeds folks that wanted to chase me down and try to silence me from saying
what i was saying they tried to throw dirt on my name they tried to act like i was a liar or doing
this that and the other and they swatted me they sent a unit of police officers and SWAT team to my door at two in the morning to try to intimidate me
and hoped that I would do something stupid enough to get myself shot or arrested.
And what they failed to understand is I had been looking for the most expedient way to put them behind bars that I could.
So you sending the FBI to me just sped that up.
And within a few weeks of cooperating with the FBI, Richard Hart has a red notice from
Interpol. If you think that that was just
accident, within a few weeks of cooperating with the FBI, Richard Hart received an Interpol
red notice, which you will note has not disappeared like his SEC file, possibly because there is damning evidence and on-chain proof that has been provided to authorities
that outline a criminal conspiracy to defraud investors and launder money
for activities which I can only presume are exactly what I've told you are going on
for years. So just know that in the time that some people have had to choose whether or not
they like me enough to buy a meme coin, I have been fighting the Balrog at the highest peak and in the lowest valley, and his ass is grass. This is one of the most prolific scammers in the history of the internet, and they've irritated me.
and the walls are closing in and he'll get to spend a good chunk of his life behind bars in prison.
I didn't do that. I didn't defraud anybody. I didn't launder money. I wasn't fucking kids on
an island anywhere. I wasn't doing any of these things. I wanted to be left alone. I was happy
to just talk to my friends about an orange and have fun but they couldn't help themselves they would try to
talk shit about the tang gang and the problem is if you talk shit about my team my blood turns into
boiling lava and my whole physiology transforms into a hydrogen bomb that will decimate all living things that are in the wrong direction.
So I just wanted to be able to talk to the people who would listen and to show them that
there are better technologies out here, there are better ways of going about this, and that
we don't need to worship some middleman to make the sun rise.
The sun will in fact rise again tomorrow. And we have algorithms and charts.
And data that we can use.
To confirm these predictions.
And so.
You know.
If they come and knock on my door.
Then I blow their whole fucking house up.
That's what time it is.
Silo is like.
With his mouth down.
In disbelief. But um. um um you shared your story i mean bro i'm a mouse
here's some lore here's some lore since we're sharing lore because a lot of people don't
understand we're not bullshitting i was part of a team that raised millions and millions and millions of dollars and i was part of them as a contractor
the same way i was a contractor for many people pre-tan gang there's a difference with my lore
pre-tan gang and post-tan gang pre-tan gang was i was still same person. Nothing has changed for the community.
But if you was another entity and you wanted this work, I'll give you the work.
What changed was a conversation with GUI.
And after that, I just went pro-community.
Feels better, doesn't it?
Well, not only does it feel better better you don't have to worry about
the fucking feds or some other shit coming down your throat years later as a dad of two
right and that's why i am who i am right i know i know where my vulnerabilities are and i know
and my family knows what risks are in play because i'm pretty
transparent if you think i'm transparent with you ask my mom and dad um but that's just one
example bullish there was many other examples of all the other bullshit that was happening behind
the scene as well that you know was a factor in you doing what you did and leaving, working for those people essentially.
Dude, the thing is, I've said it, dude, there are projects that are still operating right now
that are using my asset, my intellectual property, my whatever that I did for them to this day.
And I'm not ashamed of it because it's my work but at a certain point you got to
understand what team you're playing for i i don't need to be doing it for the money i'm not saying
no one else does and i'm not shading like if you need to if you're a contract worker matter of fact
my partner in crime is a contract worker and that's sefer when it comes to anything nft related
that's the guy that I automatically just lean to.
He is a contract worker.
He eats what he kills.
That's the way he lives.
I'm not in that position.
So I can move a different way.
And I understand that.
And me, I'll just fucking eat when I'm dead.
What up, Stylo?
Yeah, can y'all like fill me in like in the DMs? I want to know what the fuck it's all out there dude it's all out there i can i know i can tell
you some of the deep lore but just know that there's still an ongoing pursuit for a criminal
internationally wanted criminal so there's some things i can't tell you that are understood, but yeah.
Yeah. I mean, that's look, man, that there, there is a reality where me, not orange gooey, that this thing,
this voice that you're hearing comes from my brain and my soul. Okay.
And, and that thing's probably powered by something that I can't fully explain to
you in the next 12 minutes.
But because of these realities,
I am not going to waste them.
My granny used to say,
I'm very blessed to have an able mind and an able body.
And I agree with that.
And I pray about that every day.
I am not ever going to take up an interest in whatever these fucked up schemes are to try to turn other people into cattle or turn them into cannon fodder.
That is of no interest to me. So back in the day when I was pretty enamored with the idea of the smart contract, you guys have to remember, dude, back in the day, there were not a lot of smart contract utility coins even on the Ethereum network.
Just like bonds make sense, although buying them in 2020 with 200 years of inflation and totally broken economics probably doesn't make the bonds that attractive for a young person trying to make outsized returns on investment.
And yet the mechanism seemed cool.
And so as I was enjoying the mechanism, it would become evident to me very early on that there was an apparatus at work.
There was a network of individuals who were waiting for talent to come and evangelize their
product. And it took me a while to notice. And when I say a while, I mean like 13 minutes.
But you'll recall, I delete accounts when they get to 10,000 followers or more.
The reason is the bot network activity that is associated with talking about things and then being turned into this puppet for other people's platforms. my spaces and they would put several hundred people allegedly in my space, which would then
convince all of you that I was hosting some huge space that everyone has to listen to.
But the reality is this, I'm a high conviction speaker, whether I'm alone or in a room of 10,000,
it does not change who I am or what I intend to talk about. I'm going to be spreading the good word from my heart as best
as I can understand the world around me. And they tried to basically productize that. They tried to
take my account and turn me into a mouthpiece. And so after they had spent the money and gone
through with it and had, you know, Richard is wearing a black and white, remember I was called Orca, he was wearing a black and white Versace shirt calling me a genius and the god king emperor of Twitter spaces before shoveling all of his YouTube followers and Twitter followers into my Twitter spaces.
And then they would bot the Twitter space so that outsiders like that Olympic gold medalist speed skater and other pseudo celebrities would see the sheer numbers
below me, they would come into the space and they would no doubt meet a charismatic speaker
who was going to be evangelizing opportunities and values that galvanize many in the populace.
It's the idea that there is kind of a restless spirit among the masses, and they do want better, and they're willing to come together to fight for it under an understanding that it's worth it, that there's an actual kind of purpose, there's some elevated purpose that can be justified upon putting in that work to
the means to that end. I, upon realizing this, had to take the unfortunate path of basically
self-nuking and then using that mushroom cloud as a beacon to show people that there was something
not right. There's something very not right going on here, and it's not a coincidence. It's actually organized in its nature.
time, maybe increased physical risk to my own well-being, an elevated risk that will no doubt
follow me for the rest of my life. There are many people who have seen many hundreds of millions of
dollars not end up where they were hoping it would because I cannot be bought and I cannot reasoned with. And so the Tang Gang is this escape pod. It is this teleportation device
that allows you to have all of your life experiences, all of your memories, all of
your dreams, all of your intentions, and to immediately
physically and spiritually relocate you like the, the, you know, teleport cup at the wizard games
or whatever the fucking gauntlet of fire is. As soon as you touch the orange, you are able to leave wherever it was that you were and to enter the Grove, this enigmatic mystery place that is home to all those who seek refuge in the Tang Gang.
was worth deploying in those environments is because whether you look at the way that Richard
and his criminal syndicate scam, or you look at how Coinbase does it, or you look at how Binance
does it, or you look at how all of these other groups do it, what you are going to overwhelmingly
find is that they follow a pattern of exploitation, obfuscation, and non-accountability. Every single asset that
has launched in partnership with Aerodrome has been sniped from team members on Aerodrome and
team members at base. And those are not accidents. They are unable to operate authentically because their agreements are based on distrust. There is an inherent – when you enter the secrecy, there is an inherent distrust that supersedes even the agreement of the fraternity. The idea is that we agree that we agree,
but do we agree that we agree to agree? And because there will always be this
unending mystery layered beneath another mystery, layered beneath another mystery,
you'll go mad before you ever come to the realization that digging down deeper is just digging your own grave. You're not actually progressing anywhere at all. responsible for these things. It's just that the individuals who apparently are incapable of loving
themselves or finding a purpose in this life, they fall into patterns of exploitation and manipulation
to try to ascend more quickly to the top of the mountain of influence than those who are willing
to go nowhere at all and the mountaintop is simply the soapbox we stand on every day.
So know that you can send a self-proclaimed God King Emperor billionaire and his legion
of 10,000 to my doorstep, and it will result in burying 10,001 bodies.
That's all that you're going to accomplish.
I have the full suit of God's armor on me at all times
you're going to have to come up with something
like a bullet
to even begin to enter the conversation
of threatening me
and before you are able to
form those weapons
you will fail
that much I have seen come true in my life
you had better fucking level up if you want to try
and tango with me I'm not even trying and I dismantled your entire organization and you
will live for the rest of your life on the run from the law and you did that by irritating me
so the next time you're gonna want to fucking think it through you're gonna want to really
think it through it probably should have become evident to you when i blocked you before you blocked me and when i told
all of your coffers to suck my dick and then when i started explaining in public the crimes and
atrocities that they have committed against underage individuals so that should have probably
been enough evidence for you to know that i was never coming along for your fucking scheme. But unfortunately, these people are so demented. Their brains are so weak because of these introduced forces of negativity and evil intent that they can't process. Their CPU and their skull can't process fast enough. They can't find their way through the maze.
and their skull can't process fast enough. They can't find their way through the maze.
I can do that shit backwards with my eyes closed before I even get out of bed. They're going to
spend the next 20 years trying to figure out how to get around the next turn. So just know that
the difference between m'lady or the hexakens or insert your community here is that the Tang Gang does not ask you to give yourself up to become a part of something greater.
It asks for you to simply get over yourself and contribute to something greater.
You give up nothing.
Perhaps your ego, but that's not even yours to begin with.
That's a chemical reaction in your brain telling you that you need to fuck
for food. We are individuals. You are an individual. If I ever convince you to do
something that I want you to do, it's because me, the individual, is convincing you, the individual.
I have no levers I can pull. I have no roster of employees that I can't threaten
your paycheck. I don't have any leverage over you. Okay. And some people say, well, no, because
when orange gooey censors me, then ever, Hey, do better. Just fight harder. If I'm the top of the
mountain to you, then you're not looking up high enough at all. I'm on a soapbox. If you think I'm
in some insurmountable cloud line, you're a fucking idiot. All right. I'm just out here on
the internet on a small soapbox that I can take one step to get on top of. And then I just talk
about the things that I care about. But the pursuit of education in my life is a byproduct of my father having understood the value of a traditional education and the power of spending some of your time that you never get back on self-development and the pursuit of knowledge and the refinement of discernment and these qualities.
refinement of discernment and these qualities. And so along my journey of being in kind of
institutionalized education and networking in professional networks, I have still never
forfeited my autonomy. I don't go along just because I need to be a part of some secret
insider circle. And what I have found is that the secrecy groups tend to be some of the
most incompetent and untalented individuals I've ever come across. They tend to be really fucking
stupid. And how do I know? Because their businesses became much more profitable after they hired me
than they were before they hired me. And I was simply using
the creative energies that enter my mind to solve problems, to help people achieve better outcomes.
They couldn't figure it out. To them, it's a total mystery. They're looking at the cattle and saying,
how do we get them from that pasture to this pasture? And I'm looking at the people and saying,
don't you just align the incentives to kind of give them a path to walk through?
And they'd say, that doesn't make any sense.
What, you think these are sentient human beings with emotions and families?
They are simply data points on my Excel spreadsheet for my KPI measurements.
And you realize, oh, you guys are retarded.
retarded. You guys are saying data-driven decision-making, but what you meant is you
You guys are saying data-driven decision-making.
need a computer to look complex so that you can justify not knowing what the fuck is going on.
And there's going to be a lot of not knowing what the fuck is going on, so long as it's you
in charge. And so I look around at the crypto landscape, and yes, all of the institutions seem to know that Q4 2025 is the introduction of stocks on blocks.
Maybe it's just sheer coincidence.
We see all of the field funded by the usual suspects are launching synthetic stocks, just tokenized stocks. There's
no capital efficiency. There's no liquidity efficiency. There's no investment efficiencies.
They are simply tokenized stocks, and they're all launching them at the same time.
Then you look at the 33-act, 40-act stuff that has recently interrupted Chia's progress,
and not everything has to be a conspiracy, okay?
We don't have to believe that the whole world is being run by a small group of people in a room somewhere summoning Satan at a table and coming up with crazy technologies that are not real but in the third dimension where humans perceive time to pass linearly.
It appears to be a quantum leap
forward in physical reality of some kind. We don't need all that. We just need to have the
information available to us so that we as individuals can decide for ourselves whether
we agree with the information, disagree with the information, and what are we going to do about that? And so institutional liquidity will be
enough for institutions to decide this is the chain moving forward. But we as individuals can
fork Chia, we can fork all of the technology. We can fork Sage, fork Ch, fork mint garden. You could fork it all. It doesn't matter.
So the idea is perhaps there isn't a need to have these like tribalistic, rivalistic deployments of technology. about our rights and how to defend them and advocate for them so that as the world continues
to become more technologically integrated, you know, they talk about like the surveillance state,
the fear of a Palantir, all seeing eye of digital databasing and record keeping instantaneously
pulled by any federal agency. These kinds of things are concerning
to individuals, and so it's paramount that we understand what our rights are and how to protect
them and how to ensure that they endure over time. And that's where I look at individuals
in the Chia community. They are advocating for reduction of middlemen simply because of the legal precedent and the ethical precedent of
autonomous exchange, the ability for two consenting parties to come together and form an agreement
without the need for arbitration acting as an inefficiency to their exchange. That is fundamental to offer files in the Chia blockchain. You look at the various communities all around the world. There's a large presence of Chia in China. We've got Chia in the US. There are going to be differences in opinions. There are going to be differences in politics. There are going to be differences in religion. And the blockchain, the immutable, censorship-resistant public blockchain, is appropriate installation of institutionalized utilities, those people are expressing values that align with my personal scope, my personal belief set of kind of a first do no harm, and then second with the freedom afforded to you by God, do good. How do you do good? It's
very simple. Help someone else. You've, of course, heard you can't help anyone else until you've
helped yourself. So first, do no harm. Then take care of yourself. Then take care of someone else.
That's pretty much the path to a successful life. That's all you really need to master.
You might not become the president of the United States. You might not become the CEO of Chia,
but you will certainly be leagues ahead of those who conspire against other people
and see them as a means to an end. Righteous within self.
Righteous within self.
And that's why we are not m'lady.
The Tang Gang isn't an approach to a neo-chibi aesthetic that launches the new internet.
If you think that there's going to be a new internet, you fail to understand the reality of space-time because of your humonguli brain and its limited perspective with the reality
of the engine of existence and perception itself.
And so there's no need to reinvent something that has always existed, and you certainly
don't need a new one when it's made fresh every second of every moment of every day.
What they're really talking about is a philosophical breaking away from the
infrastructure as it currently exists. It's a radical approach to what is perceived as a
systemic corruption and sort of a firewalling of competition. I am not interested in creating a competition outside of the global scope.
I am going to inject directly into the bloodstream of reality that is existing here and now,
and I'm going to be a relentless force for good that by its very nature forces all opposing forces to cede way to my intentions. We are simply going
to build better. We are simply going to work harder. We are simply going to be honest and
authentic. And even if we don't get everything that we want, we will never give up that which
makes us who we are in order to achieve positive outcomes. There is no free energy in this world. So if you're
going to do anything, work for it. Be willing to work as hard as you have to work to make it come
true, to make it happen, to make it a reality. There are no shortcuts, okay? There's no need to
bop my spaces. I will nuke that shit. I will nuke my account. I could cut my hair. I could change my
name. I could put on glasses and sweatpants, and I could just do it all over again.
Because what I'm talking about is the truth.
I'm not interested in selling you on my fancy, shiny watches and my cars.
None of that means a goddamn thing to me.
I am much more interested in the pursuit of knowledge knowledge and along the way, I don't want to
fucking ruin anyone's life. Okay. The same way that I kind of get really lucky and not have my
life ruined. It's a, I'm pretty blessed, dude. There are far worse ways things could have gone
in my life. So I'm not exactly, uh, angsty teenager who says the world owes me money and happiness and a retirement home.
Just give me a shot.
Just put me in the game.
Give me a shot.
Give me one play is all I'm asking for.
Put me on the field, and I will do the rest.
I will be happy with the results that I get.
I will leave it all out on the field.
I do not need a speed run.
I do not need somebody to cater to me, but I am absolutely more willing to support those
who embody my ideals of transparency, honesty, authenticity. And that's what I see in the Chia
community. And that's what I see in the leadership of Chia. And that is why I don't really concern
myself over the temporary setbacks because the mission is so much bigger.
The goal is so much larger.
And there's a reality where we do nothing and these titanic forces come together over the framework of a paradigm shift in technology.
of a paradigm shift in technology, and they may compromise for greater peace, and in those
compromises could be a forfeiture of our interests because there are consolidations in the compromise.
Well, I have no interest in that. I already know that I will not be the one shaking the shapeshifter's hand. I will
not be the one that, you know, is in the deep, dark tile floor room or whatever. But my people,
ordinary people, the non-initiated, the non-adept, the non-illumined. They are going to be here tomorrow, and they must be accounted for.
So in my interest, I have to have a level of discernment where I appreciate the knowledge
that's given. I appreciate the education, the insight, but we must still hold people to a
standard or to a level of expectations of goodness for the sake of goodness.
And I'll tell you, I have a pretty strong alien antenna when it comes to people that have ulterior motives.
I don't get any sense of that from Bram.
I don't get any sense of that from Gene.
I don't even get that from Trent, and he's the finance guy.
That's probably where it would come from, not because of it being Trent, but because of the nature of finance.
No, you're right.
You're right.
It is.
That's usually the first guy you have to worry about, and he's been up front and giving information in a way that most people have not.
most people have not.
That's why I said like a week ago,
the fact that they gave us all that information,
you should be patting yourselves on the back
because that means there's a level of respect
that they have towards the Tang Gang.
And you have to understand there are compromises
that are made in this life,
whether you want to believe that or not.
When you're a m'lady, you bring the full weight of the schizo bomb, but you dilute the weight of
the reality bomb. It's tricky. But when Permudo Capital has to decide who are we going to network with. Do you have any idea how absolutely never going to happen it would be to identify a room of 100 Mlady PFPs and say, hey, we are going to reach out to you and have private conversations about opportunities to invest directly with our provenance?
No. Mlady can have the best floor price. They can have all of the network spirituality. They can have tens of thousands. They can have legions.
But that's a threat. That's a threat to what's going on. They don't need you.
And look, the Tang Gang doesn't need you either, but we're not a threat to you. We directly supported you before we were even given a shout out. We were already identifying that there's real value in what's being done and that we want to participate and we want to contribute and we group is not based on zero accountability. Quite the
And look, the Tang Gang doesn't need you either. But we're not a threat to you.
opposite. It is the merit of each individual that decides their lore. We are not, you don't get
credit for what I do. I don't get credit for what you do, but the Tang Gang gets credit for what the Tang Gang does.
Okay?
And the Tang Gang is comprised of individuals who are working meritously toward positive ends, toward more equitable outcomes.
And so you can take that risk.
You have faces and names.
You have consistency.
And it's a non-destructive energy.
Milady is happy to explode what already exists, and they will simply replace it with their
own infrastructure.
That's fine if you don't have any ties to the people whose building you're going to
blow up. But I think that the world is
more complex. And I think that there are, we're in a time now where compromise that was left,
it's kind of this bill that has been adding up and left unaddressed. We're watching it come due. We are seeing the different spokes of the wheel have to eventually converge on
what makes them connected. They can operate in their own silos and in their own, you know,
courses, and yet it is their networked dependencies and reliances which bubble up to the top as a byproduct of humans who die eventually because they get old. used to leverage people who have ascended to positions of power in order to enact an unchanging regime of kind of, you know, bizarre is the nicest word I can use, opinions of the future.
The obfuscation, the secrecy, the hiding of the hand, the cloak and the dagger, and all these things are impediments to human progress.
But that doesn't mean that they are necessarily evil.
There is an idea that along the way to getting here, some of these things may have served developmental or productive purposes.
These things may have served developmental or productive purposes.
And much like any technology, it's how you use it which often determines whether it's good or it's bad. for having knowledge and talents that are not accessible to the other people in your society,
whether it be a matter of talent or a matter of just predisposed luck or something like that,
there may have been a need at a time for insulating the practices of more advanced mathematics and
science and things of that nature, perhaps. But then again, perhaps not. All right. I'm, I'm always willing to extend an olive branch because I know that my olives
are not sour. I know that these are actually real. They're, they're genuine. I'm giving you
an opportunity to explain yourself. I understand you kind of built a life of secrecy. So I'm not,
you know, not going to be shocked when you don't reach out and grab the olive branch. But the idea is these institutions last longer than individuals, right? The UN is going to outlive me, unfortunately.
that kind of see the ascendancy of the new world order, they see the tectonic plates of global
finance shifting, they think we've got to put a stop to it. And I think differently. I think
we need to inject ourselves into the equation. We need to have a say and we can change the course morally, ethically, foundationally, upon law, principle, we can
have a say. If you understand the power that is imbued within the words of the Constitution,
then you must understand that you have the power as a free person to enact your will and change the world
for good. So I don't need anarchy as the precedent to a revolution for peace and prosperity. I just
need to get my voice into the conversation. I am operating from a place of truth, transparency, and authenticity.
I know why they can't get people in their spaces and why they would prefer to bop mine.
It's because there's no lag between the router and the mouth, the router and the spouter. I am not picking up some kind of infected malware
and then spreading bullshit to you for ulterior motives. It doesn't mean I can't be wrong. It
just means that I'm never actually trying to take advantage of you. I'm not trying to hurt you.
I'm not looking at you as, okay, so if I can get them to do this for me, then I'm going to win.
me, then I'm going to win. No. So when I speak, there is a resonance in every word I say that
the longer you listen, the more you come to the inescapable reality that this is just who I am.
This is just the truth. I'm not interested in being the dark cloak world economic forum
president telling you how to eat and shit like that. I have no interest in that.
I kind of use the Constitution, the New Testament, and that gets me pretty far. Those pieces of paper
go a pretty long way for me personally, and I'm also happy enough in my own life that I don't have
to force those beliefs on other people, but i simply will not allow you to compromise those values as they are endowed to me by
so much so their value it's already ingrained that we respect other people's opinions
yeah because dude i you know they can't hurt me what their ideas are gonna hurt me or something
like i don't care like it's i already like i get my arm dude like as someone i know i'm a little
older than you but those values was ingrained in me from a from a child and i'm technically
second generation because my parents immigrated here so like i was born and raised here and those
values were instilled to me i still believe it to this. That's why a lot of shit that's going on now pisses me off. But at the end of the day, it's like, yeah, we can agree to disagree. Those were the values that we were taught.
God was not good, oranges would not be pre-sliced. If God was only interested in our suffering,
he would make it a fucking nightmare to peel an orange and share it with your friends.
I have plenty of evidence to suggest in the world all around me that God is good,
and that you don't even have to believe. I'm not interested in becoming your preacher. I'm not
interested in getting you signed up for church. None of that.
Go read the Constitution ten times and then come talk to me. Go read all of the books that have ever been written before the internet and then come talk to me.
I have my own personal beliefs. Most of them are embodied in ideological value, ethical and moral frameworks.
in ideological value, ethical and moral frameworks. I'm not able to do anything that
any other human can do to prove godness, right? Or prove Jesus Christ of Nazareth. And that's why
we have words like faith. I have made my decisions and you are free to make your own. Now, I'm not going to war. I'm not having a religious war with
anybody. I am simply going to stand up for my values, my beliefs, and to care for my people.
And should I be met with evil intentions that seek to destroy me, I will destroy them. Absolutely.
And so you will see, as time passes, that compromise is happening all around you.
People want to say things that sound good. They want to say, I believe in whatever. I don't even know how
to sound stupid like that, but whatever, whatever it is that they're lying to themselves about to
convince themselves that they have the moral high ground before they take the paycheck that,
you know, just creates this slithering path of extraction for someone else. I just don't take any interest in those things.
Money is not a motivator for me. The idea that I have to have something else to be happy
does not exist within my mind. I'm very blessed. I'm very happy. And I'm actually,
I'm very happy, and I'm actually – I usually pray to be able to endure another day so that I can continue working on things that there's no promise I'll ever get to finish them.
I could put my time – someone was saying the other day, they were like, imagine you worked on something for 10 years, and then it turned out to just be a waste of time.
Yeah, dude.
What if you worked on something for 10 years and you and it was an 11
year project and you died that would be way worse a lot of the shit we use today a lot of people
didn't even live long enough to see their idea come into fruition yeah and that's and that's why
i liked when you were talking about march madness this idea
i've i've given the fucking soundbites a hundred million times james bond stockdale
epictetus manual for a busy man the stoic idea to not make your life bound by fictitious timelines. Dunktober is nice because it takes people that
wouldn't validate my perspective and it uses the false appeal to authority of Gene and it
lets you believe all of a sudden that it's real because Gene says it's real and he's so much more
important and powerful. It must be true.
And so when Gene gives you the timeline, all of you who were,
I don't give a fuck about Chia.
Oh, no, it's complicated.
No one will ever use this.
Why don't you come over to this chain and do that?
Then Gene says, hey, guys, Dunktober, you're all getting rich.
You're all going to have a million dollars if you buy Chia.
And you say, oh, yeah, no, I love Chia.
I'm all about it.
I can't wait. This Dunktober thing is really exciting to me and then the sec says oh my bad you know we got to
do some more paperwork and i'm proud of the tang gang because i see less cope from the tang gang
than i see from the general timeline sentiment and i think it's because a lot of people in here
understand the long road i think they've been on a road, and they're not afraid of going a little bit further.
So the question is, what is your purpose?
What is your path?
A lot of people set these checkpoints as finish lines.
I only set starting lines.
There will be a journey that leads us to the beginning of yet another journey,
and that will help temper your mind and expectations so that you don't have to have
the emotional whipsaw of good news, oh, unexpected news, bad news, now me feel bad. You can just
continue working in the direction you're trying to go and sometimes
you're fast and sometimes you're slow but never give up and continue on what is up max yo can you
me i'm outside so yes i can um to your point i just wanted to say like all the stuff that's so
hyped up like literally hyper liquid or aster all these like herp decks is like they were around like aster was around for a while hype was around for like
a year where no one was talking about it so i don't know it's just to me it's like
it's only a matter of time and it's one of those things that no one's obviously talking about today
besides our echo chamber but eventually you'll have the ansoms and those guys who are like
oh why weren't we using this a year ago and it's you know it's just like i just see it happening
eventually and i'm kind of like i'm i'm also in a blessed place where i don't have to worry about
it going down further i can sit on my other stuff and kind of chill so i'm like it takes
another six months it does and i want to see what happens but i don't know that was just my so i look
at all the stuff that's so hyped up and i'm like they they really no one talks about this stuff for
a while before it really takes off so i'm glad you said that let me let me jump in here as the
as the new guy in the box. I'm making an assumption.
Max, I'm assuming you've been here more than one cycle.
I'm making an assumption.
I got here like when NFTs were going crazy. All right, perfect.
Great.
All right.
That was like when I entered base school.
Here's one thing I know, being a student of the game, not being here multiple cycles.
of the game not being here multiple cycles i remember reading on the news as the normie the
common person bitcoin this now bitcoin is banned in china now bitcoin this now this bitcoin scam
and now bitcoin all-time high and now this is and then it was basically push and pull for like 10 years. And now it's worth over $100,000.
Yep.
Also, we have art up here.
I know my time has expired.
Art, if we're ushering into a new space, new time, let me know.
I'll pin up whatever, obviously.
I don't like scheduling things if I don't have to.
So I don't.
These spaces, I had things I wanted to talk about.
And to be honest, the Chia changing in timeline just kind of took precedent.
So a lot of what I wanted to talk about would have been much more contextually relevant if we were sort of moving into the next phase of using Chia tools and stuff.
But we're going to just need a little time on that.
So I didn't want to get people confused about shit they can't see or touch or use.
And it's kind of dense stuff, you guys.
For those of you that intend to stick around and learn about tools like CircuitDAO
or learn about ACDC and how to apply them in a portfolio.
or learn about ACDC and how to apply them in a portfolio,
These things get a little more sophisticated than some of what we've worked on and built.
So I was going to go into that path for most of my spaces,
but with the time between now and then,
I will just use that to better study the tools
and understand how to explain them to
other people so that when they are more proximal to you we'll have the context to actually use them
but let's say what up to art though because i know we gotta we gotta bounce to the next piece
what's up art where are you doing ice labs because it seems like ice labs is scheduled um i uh i don't
don't know i haven't seen me i'm just jump i just dropped my wife off so i was just jumping back in
spaces so i'm unaware of what's going on i was just checking in to make sure everybody i thought
like we had a space going on at two for a switch off so i was checking in to see who it was so it's ice labs based on the calendar it's ice labs um oh oh um
i think he said yesterday so i i somewhat remember him saying yesterday that he had to
i don't know that he was going to do his final section right i don't know
is he available yeah it was kind of it was
Let's try messaging him and see where he's at
Yeah, don't look at his pmp
Right now, so if he gets the message him if not I could spin something up and then wait in the meantime
No worries, dude. I don't mind holding it down either. I just didn't want to interrupt anyone else's timeline.
He's scheduled for an hour.
Not saying you have to hold it down for an hour,
but if you want to hold it down for a bit until he shows up,
what will we figure out next steps?
I can hold it down, baby.
I've got plenty to talk about if we want to hold it down.
Maybe he was saying he was going to be running late today,
so whoever the next person didn't mind A little extra
He'd be finishing his room during the next start of the next one
Or whatever
You guys just let me know
I can keep the space open
Or whatever but just let me know what's best
So Drak is in control
After Ice Labs For a couple of hours so we have flexibility so
uh let's hold it down see if uh ice labs shows up before we migrate and um you you have some
stuff you want to talk about so just take it away yeah yeah i do i want to talk about i want to talk
about the cooler you know it's way cooler than having some dude tongue punch your fart box
so that you can figure out how many triangles fit in a rectangle?
It's Necklords NFTs.
They cost 5.75 XCH, which has never been cheaper
because the price of XCH is going down.
But we're not interested in the price of XCH today.
We're interested in the price of xeh years from now and so we're offering a discount on neck lords for 5.75 xeh it's never been cheaper
the price reduction is because we thought you poor bitches ought to learn today the value of xeh
tomorrow and so there are 446 trades that have taken place, 2,593 XCH that has been sequestered by the Treasury to be year for Merkle campaigns. And if we were to mint out the Necklord's
collection, that would be 10 plus years of Merkle campaigns. So it's an expensive price tag,
no doubt about it. The idea is we're coming together as individuals. There is a positive
sum to this. I want you all to go back and listen to Josh
explain to you how even when a farmer steals an offer file and imputes their own fee, it is a
positive sum injection of liquidity into the marketplace. These XCH coins are not something
that you can get simply by sitting around and saying, I have neck lords. You actually have to provide liquidity in pools in order to earn the reward.
And so there is a positive sum of liquidity added to the marketplace, and the rewards are positive
sum on top of those contributions. Because remember, the basis for a liquidity pool is to earn trading fees. We are paying the juice on top of trading fees, and I have noticed,
so here's, if you're looking at the 9mm pro decks, when ETH is falling, we do way less volume
because we don't have as much USDC in the community interested in buying dips as we do crypto exposure looking to take profits at
higher prices. That is part of the reason that I put the wrapped ETH coinbase Bitcoin pair together
is because as the value of these cryptocurrencies rise and fall in these highly volatile times,
in these highly volatile times, more mature market capitalizations tend to move more consistently.
The volatility may still be very volatile, but the correlation of volatility is much smoother.
There is a much higher correlation between the movements of the S&P 500 and Bitcoin get paid more for the USDC than you do
for the wrapped ETH, by the way. So I was aware of the kind of breakdown of assets across the
community and the interests of the community with respect to what do they actually want out of their
crypto investments, right? The return that they're interested in.
And so if you go and look at the Merkle campaigns, you'll find that the USDC aspect and the CBBTC aspect of these Merkle pools are given slightly higher value than the ETH side of the trade, but the majority of the value is explained by are the assets
actually being used in the next trade.
The reason for that is it incentivizes more tightly concentrated liquidity pools, thus
greatly improving the price execution of the trades.
And these are not assets which likely will experience 80% or 90% drawdowns in price
because they are already included in ETF investments, which have 10, 20, 30-year investment horizons.
And the idea is until there is a real significant change to the industry or the regulatory landscape that would dislodge the sort of null thesis of we're going to invest in these ETFs pretty measurably every year, then they will just continue to be performative because there's simply not enough coins to go around.
130 million ETH, 19 million Bitcoin, there's simply not enough coins to go around. 130 million ETH,
19 million Bitcoin, there's just not enough coins to go around. And so we are paying out
ETH on top of ETH USDC exposure. You actually need the price of ETH to fall by 50% and then stay there for an entire year for the value
of the Merkle rewards to not overcome the change in value of your ETH USDC position.
So do with that what you will. That basically means you probably don't need to bet on ETH going down more than 50%.
You can probably set that as like your really, really, really low end range or whatever,
because you're going to be getting paid the juice the whole way down,
and you're going to get paid juicier juice the tighter and more capital efficient the assets are.
So you're actually going to do better than the 50% APR because you're not approaching the entirety of the TVL. You're actually just honing in on this thin trading channel of prices. volatility and put yourself in sort of a hybrid of larger cap sector similar assets right so
bitcoin and eth are more similar to each other than bitcoin and corn right And so you're going to be able to earn the trading fees in the form of ETH and
Bitcoin, and then you're going to get paid ETH on top of that. And so these are extremely valuable
opportunities. You will not see other pools paying like this. And the reason is simple.
If the most official groups were paying for these pairs,
the yield would just be diluted immediately. The juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze. The amount of
regular adoption dollars that would be attracted would be zero, and the amount of already in the
system dollars that would just allocate themselves to the juice would come in and take all of the yield until the
risk was adjusted down. We have the benefit of people not believing in us. We have the benefit
of people not believing in us. We have the benefit of people being brand whores. And so we have all
of the barriers of the fear in people's minds of what if I had to take a risk to earn a reward, that keeps them sidelined and it keeps the APR gushing to you.
So we also have the Neckcoin pairs, and these are paying you in Neckcoin and in XCH.
Neck coin was pumping last night on Chia. People are realizing Neck coin is not a coin that you
Neckcoin was pumping last night on Chia.
hold and a coin that you sell. Neck coin is a raw material asset that when combined with any of
these other four tier one liquidity assets becomes a Chia miner. It becomes a Chia farmer.
It becomes a chia miner. It becomes a chia farmer. There is a fixed number of XCH that must flow. The mojos must flow per the rules of the Merkel campaign. So even if no one buys or sells Netcoin, if the prices just remain the same, the XCH and Netcoin must be paid to those participants.
And so there's only 11,000 of them, and there's not 11,000 of them up for sale.
People are realizing that because of the nature of concentrated liquidity, we can dampen the price change, the negative price change from sellers. So we're introducing a significant amount of supply through these Merkle campaigns that is naturally going are incentivized to buy you out of your bags by
providing deeply concentrated liquidity just below the current trading price. And so where
if we would have done 100% of our buys and sells in Tibet swap in that V2 pool, the volatility
would be a nightmare. And the amount of winners to losers would be a
much worse spread. The Pareto distribution would lead to a very, very few people getting an
extremely disproportionate profitable and extractable liquidity position as the price
pumps. And then as people sell and take profits and they reprice the asset lower, probably underneath your cost basis,
there would be fewer people who had taken profit. And so the negative externality of
lowered sentiment is going to lead to continued selling, continued cascading of prices.
Because we're utilizing concentrated liquidity pools and we're diversifying across tier one liquidity, we are getting the benefit of non-asset
specific risk with respect to the relative price changing across all of the pools. And we have the
benefit of should the opposite come to pass where coins are appreciating in value, then these
allocations of net coin will rebalance and the buy-side
liquidity will have to enter in order to remove higher supply in pools where it is being inefficient
at its price because of the changing of the underlying. And so if you look, even during these massive moves, Bitcoin going from $122,000 down to $111,000,
ETH going from $4,800 down to $4,100, Netcoin has gone from like $40 to $35.
the XCH that has been secured in the Necklord's campaign is able to pay out another 500 XCH
throughout 2026. So it's going to be lower emissions, presumably, than what we have seen
thus far, because it'll be, instead of six months, 12 months. But the idea is you only need a 2x in price to be paying out the exact same APR.
Most people that are buying Chia are betting on a little bit better than a 2x price change,
and I don't care to tell you how many Xs it can or can't do, but just factor that in when you
realize the XCH that we get from minting necklords is not being spent today.
That XCH is already owned and already in the campaigns. And those campaigns are going to
carry us into March Madness. So the stuff that we're going to do next year, yeah, if the prices haven't changed, it won't look as attractive. But ask the neckbeard masons that don't exist, the secret society of neckbeard masons that don't exist who use ancient Pythagorean theorems and quantitative easing to be able to disproportionately outperform the markets of their competitive nations and communists around the world. We don't exist, first of all.
Don't ever forget that.
And secondly, we already have enough Chia to last multiple years.
With 2,593 Chia and about 500 of that already having been spent, that is 2,000 XCH remaining.
Well, at 500 a year, that's four years of Merkle campaigns.
So now you have to ask yourself, can you afford to not earn XCH four years from now at today's
prices? Because that's what's going on. The cost basis of those that are contributing on top of receiving their cool collectible Necklord NFT,
they are engaging
with $9
XCH today and
paying themselves an opportunity
to hold Chia assets
and earn Chia
four years from now.
What percentage of the pool do you need
to be holding to make that worth your while?
Has anyone done the math on how much liquidity you have to add to earn 5.75 XCH?
Clip that.
And does anyone know what that cost basis looks like and and which price are you using today's
price or some future opportunity price so they're they're look man it doesn't take a rocket surgeon
to figure out you buy the best price to value, and you hold it the longest you can. That is the most
successful investing technique of all time. You buy it when it's undervalued, and you hold it
until it's priced appropriately. If it's productive, it should continue to be more
valuable in the future, right? So these are very simple concepts, and we don't have to know
the Sharpe ratio. We don't need to know the acid test ratio. We don't need to know what the
turnover on inventory is. None of that. We don't have to know what the tax rate is, what the risk
free rate of return is. None of that. All I know is gold will be more valuable in the future as based upon the fiat dollar price of today.
I'm buying it at the lows, and I'm going to hold it longer. That's all that's going on here. It's
an investor club approach to identifying a high discrepancy between price and value that favors
the buyer or the bull in the investment. And so because we're not coming together to short
something together, it's very easy. You can just buy supply. And if you wanted to, you could buy
supply of a cat that is magnitudes more scarce than chia and only cost a couple multiples of chia and use it as a raw material asset to farm
chia for at least the next four and a half years by the way so that's that's an interesting thing
and what you will find is that if you don't participate now then when it's obvious when the
new prices do arrive at some point in the future, let's fast forward three years from now and say Chia is some really, really high price per coin.
No one's going to need to be convinced to come buy Neckcoin and the counter side of the pair and earn 50% APR or, heaven forbid, 100% APR or, heaven forbid, 1,000% APR. And so the idea is feel free to sell
your net coin. There's tons of liquidity there for it, but you will not be able to afford to come
and buy that position back if you wait for the market to reprice Chia to come and do it. Because those of us who want the
rewards can't afford to let half of the pair go. We need active range liquidity to earn the XCH.
So we can't sell you our net coin. We need it. And we can't sell you our Bitcoin and our ETH and our
XCH and our USDC because we need that side of the pair to earn the XCH too. So those assets are
fixed. Those assets are stuck. The rational investor in us will not allow us to give up the
market best yield with the highest quality assets. It's irrational to do that.
So what is more likely is that if we're right and the price of Chia goes up a bunch,
more likely is that if we're right and the price of chia goes up a bunch, people will go,
oh, look at the no-brainer opportunity over here. But they're looking at the relationship
of APR to TVL before they get their exposure. So what do you think happens to the price of
Netcoin? Do you think with 11,000 Netcoin, there's going to be 50,000 seats at the top 10 yield earners table?
Have you really considered that we might actually want our stuff more than you want the future of finance?
And we might hedge the bet and just pay ourselves in what you want so that we can't lose. If you're right and
you outperform, then we have a cost savings to our rewards. If we're right, you simply cannot afford
to come and compete. You should have done it yesterday. You should have done it the day before.
You should have gotten in earlier and waited longer. And that's all we're doing, maximizing the time value of money and taking advantage of hot discounts in the market today. Also, we are distributing non-fungible tokens in the form of necklords that people can do anything they choose. could one day have a Necklord's gated chat. We could one day airdrop to Necklord's. There could be Merkle campaigns
or Chia Tibet Swap campaigns
that are boosted value if you're holding a Necklord.
We decide.
We decide.
If we just wanted the XEH,
we'd have just put a fucking address on the timeline
and said, throw all the XEH in here.
And we would have gotten five XEH.
The idea here is that there is an exchange taking place.
You are getting a neck lord NFT.
You're getting the hilariousness of ordinary people coming together and poking fun at individuals who think themselves superior to you, who think of you as not worth the time and energy that your life occupies.
And so they can justify some inhumane relationship because they're important. They're player one in the universe. We take all of that
and we just make fun of it and we have fun doing it. It's not because we're trying to undermine
the institutions of freedom and success of capitalism. No, it's because you'd better be able to laugh at yourself or you're probably evil.
And we just happen to be the byproduct of a society that has left generations of free
men behind.
Generations have been lost to coercive and downright immoral controls.
And so if you want to live to see the sunrise tomorrow,
High Priestess, you're going to want to make sure that we don't fucking eat your fingers and toes
in your sleep. It turns out you're actually going to have to get to work earning your safety because
you have created a monster that does not care if they have to eat you to survive. They never wanted to,
but that's the nature of the beast. And you have put them in a position of hunger and of,
you know, a feeling of a lack of security. So there is this high violent response when they identify the source of their pain. And we can just make fun
of it. We can just use symbols. I love when, because symbols will be their downfall. You know,
it's like the funniest line of all time, because in some, in some ways it's true. And then of course,
in other ways, if, if only it were so simple if only they
just had a like a star or something and we could just pin it all on whoever had that you know that
would be so much easier but alas there's probably people that don't even know what the symbols mean
and so it becomes kind of a cloak in and of itself and it allows more layers of secrecy to hide underneath the perceived layers of secrecy.
And so we will never be able to get to the bottom of that rabbit hole
because it is designed to have no end.
Secrets upon secrets upon secrets until you are left no more enlightened.
In fact, you're down deep in a dark hole the sun can't reach anymore.
We like to have fun with that kind of stuff.
The idea that these fraternities are in any way sophisticated,
and yet you look at the world around you
and see that this is the best they could come up with.
I don't care if they have UFOs and they fly around
and do quantum teleportation to Mars and back
and they have really good weed or something.
None of that is impressive
when you look at the desolation
that they've left in their wake.
When you look at the uttered failed institutions
that they have conspired to build
and weaponize against the public,
you look around and it's a shit show.
It's a shit show.
If you're so advanced that you have alien tech
and you can fucking warp drive across the universe and this is what you left behind, it's obvious that you're not the best steward of the technology.
You're obviously the most incompetent chimp that we could possibly have handed that fucking Promethean fire to.
Anyone with any kind of spiritual clarity would have unlocked abundance for their fellow man
rather than try to put them in a cage. It's just the funniest thing of all time.
And Bullish nailed it before where he talked about this omnipresent force. It's
the inescapable breathing of the universe. People will try to use atheism as a way to reconcile their uncertainties and their doubts
about how anything works at all and what will happen to them when their mortal body perishes.
And you just have to understand the same way that the Gnostics charted the sun before the plebeians,
The sun preceded them.
It's already here, already.
And no one has ever experienced it not being here at all.
And so there's more evidence to suggest an omniscient, omnipotent force
than there is to say that there absolutely cannot be.
The only thing that is, are be. There is no not be.
Everywhere you look, there's more be hiding behind it. They look into the empty vacuum of space and
they find dark matter. There's more existence than there is not existence as measured by existence against non-existence.
There's something and there's not nothing.
So they figured that out pretty early on and then they perverted it and weaponized it against the public.
We don't have to do that because we are not sociopaths or cannibals or inbreds.
We are ordinary people and we can just come together
and say we're not going to fucking support those ideas we're not going to oh compromise on morals
and ethics so that we don't upset people who commit genocide and atrocities no you if you
didn't want to be on the wrong end of the judgment stick, you ought not have been done the genocide, right?
That would have been the appropriate strategy, but these bills will come due.
There will be a payment of judgment.
The force that is all around us all the time, let's use it for good.
let's use it for good why why how could you be so fucked up in the head that you would come to
this revelation this unbelievable eye-opening insight that it's already all here it all the
energy can never be created nor destroyed is a scientific argument that confirms life after death
prove me wrongve me wrong.
Prove me wrong.
It necessitates.
If energy can never be created nor destroyed.
Life after death is scientifically.
Factually.
Provably.
Required.
It's required.
There will be energy.
That's the only thing you measure life by. By the way. I don't know if you guys are following that or not. It's the only measure you have of life itself is the energy. If it can never be created nor destroyed, then dying does not get rid of that.
and it has no bearing on the equation of energy exchange.
It's just an intermediary observable phenomenon,
but it does not undermine the energy.
It doesn't undermine the exchange of energy.
So that is, in my opinion, a very fast shortcut to never compromise,
to never fall prey to the alluring curiosities of the secret society and the justified compromise of giving up what's morally and ethically right because, well, let's be – we got to be considerate.
I've done all the considering I can do.
Consider this.
You had better get right with God.
You had better start doing the right thing. I will have nothing to do with that judgment, and that is probably way scarier than if I was involved, just to let you know.
These people who seek to undermine free humans will lose. They will fail.
There is no force greater than that of the love required to create.
They can bastardize it, they can demonize it, and they will never be as fast or as strong as you can be.
They bring baggage. The reason that Buck could never hang with me in spaces, it's the baggage.
I don't have to worry about opening up my kimono. There's nothing in there besides a 14-inch handgun barrel and a 24-inch cock that will suppress all of my opponents.
So I don't have to worry about it.
I can just say whatever I feel, and I will be human, and I will be flawed, and I will be erred in my ways,
but I will constantly be on a pursuit of getting better, of trying my best and doing what's right
for the sake of doing what's right. So there is no lag in the line. The fiber optic connection
between me and my intention to do good is 588 petabytes a second okay there's no delay
instantaneous uplink instantaneous download and a bunch of fucking mistakes are going to be made
along the way that's part of being human shout out to the tang gang we're holding it down 222
hour chia marathon space i talk about these things, not because I'm crazy, but because I think that they matter and they are unavoidable. And the longer you live and the more that you choose to engage with reality itself, I think you will find that these themes and these questions and these forces creep up time and time and time again.
Again, shout out SlowestTimeLord.
He's in the space now.
He is one of the newest holders of Necklords.
You have to understand, you didn't believe in Chia until Gene said Dunktober.
They were never going to buy a fucking EVM coin so long as they live
until you could explain why it would be justified.
You must never relent.
You're right.
It's just maybe not right now. But never relent when you
are doing what's right. We are going to create opportunities that no one else in this space can
compete with. Not even Permuda Capital. They have constraints we do not suffer. They must do things
that we don't have the resources to do, and they will, and they have the
expertise to pull off that we probably don't. But we have other qualities. And in coming together
and maximizing the advantages of different strategies and different resources and different
approaches, we give ourselves the highest probability of achieving the success that we're after.
And these terms is probably a return on investment, right?
So I think people should realize if you are going to continue to wait for someone else to convince you, you will always be late.
Look within yourself.
Ask yourself, why are you here?
What are you interested in?
What projects do you want to support? Why do you choose to support them?
What is your purpose? What is your interest?
And there are those of us who have come together and have decided we could do much more as a group than we could on our own.
And we don't have to forfeit our autonomy to be a part of a team. In fact, the more we embrace our reality as individuals, the more honest and authentic we can be in deliberating what is best for the group in general. We don't have to hide behind the vested interests and ulterior motives of high priestess and secret societies. We can just argue. We can debate. We can compromise.
And so look at the net growth strategy and ask yourself, what would you do if three years from now you couldn't access all of the XCH you had saved up?
What would be your most cost-effective way
back into a bag of chia?
222, baby, 222.
I don't know how my fastest way would be back in,
but I know who I would get there with.
Hell yeah.
I will tell you guys, 500 XCH per year will absolutely dwarf every single liquidity pool and every single yield farm in all of crypto.
Look, you guys were never schizo enough to be m'ladies. We were not going to be a m'lady
derivative community. You don't have what it takes. And you don't want what it takes,
by the way, because it's called mental illness. But some people have a high functioning form of
it. And so it comes to be pretty impressive at times. But what we have is something better. We don't have to convince
ourselves of anything. We have been afforded such impressive information that now you are just free
to do whatever it is that you think is best for yourself. And it starts with you, not with M'Lady,
not with Charlotte Fang, not with RemeliaNet, not with RemeliaCorpang not with remelia net not with remelia court not even with tanga it starts
with you if you believe that you have the inside track on the best investment you don't have to go
and pretend that it's about some other thing you don't have to go and psyop people into falling
into some network spirituality cult and trying to extract energy and participation from
the free will of the goers of the internet. No, you can just say, all right, I've done the math.
I want more of these assets. Now, how do I get them? What is my most cost-effective strategy
of getting them? And what you will find is that 9mm has more XCH in our decks than Aerodrome has.
We also have rewards that span the next four and a half years specifically paying XCH.
That doesn't include the revenue share of the 9MM token.
It doesn't include the 9MM team coming together and taking any of their monthly team earnings
and buying XCH and doing a Merkle campaign or buying ETH and doing a Merkle campaign or doing whatever, we have
the ability to just, because of our size but our focused energy, make a disproportionately
attractive opportunity that scales with adoption and that scales with some things that are
outside of our control, the constraints of a general market thesis that some of these things will be more valuable in
the future than they are today. So keep in mind when you're looking at the APR on Merkle,
that is based on the TVL in dollar terms and the coins being issued in dollar terms.
Okay, let's go and do a quick little look. First, we're going to
refresh Necklords just to see, okay, no one bought any. You're all fucking pussies. You're all broke
bitch pussies. You ain't got what it takes to be great. I understand there's less than 80 of us in
the Necklords community. Imagine there's less than 80 verified owners in the Necklords community
and you thought that they were going to end up being less valuable than netcoin.
Yeah, I bet.
How many netcoin are there and how many necklords are there, by the way?
I'm only broke because I got more fucking necklords than you.
Yep, and that's why you'll probably win harder, too.
It just doesn't have to happen right now.
But hey, what can I do right now?
Sell $9.10 XCH as I earn it?
Woo!
That seems like the right way to treat those coins, right?
Sell them for cash?
Could be me, bro.
Could be me.
Let's go look at...
I was just going to take a look at...
Well, let's go look at... I was just going to take a look at... Well, let's go... We'll look at the liquidity, and this will jog my brain.
When you search Warped XCH or WXCH on Deck Screener, the very first pool, the highest TVL pool, is $25,000 of Chia USDC in Aerodrome.
of Chia USDC in Aerodrome.
This pool, if I'm not mistaken,
is a standard liquidity pool, I believe.
I don't even think this is a good...
Yeah, this is the basic volatile pool.
What that means is this is not a concentrated position
okay v2 they've got 1300 yeah in v2 they've got well because of the price falling and them having
usdc in the pair they now have 1425 but that'll also disappear just as fast when the price begins to move the other way
and gets arbed out of these other pairs but the second largest pair is in 9mm and we have 1131
paired to ETH in v3 full range so it's more capital efficient it's within a hundred and uh it's within 370 xch of the aerodrome pool and that's just our
top pool each but then we go to aerodrome for the third largest pool and this is xch and usdc with
1200 and this is concentrated okay so they have 1200 have 1,200 and 1,400.
That's 2,600.
We had 1,100.
And then our next pool is XCH with USDC,
and we have 1,300 XCH in that pool against 1,800 USDC.
I thought Aerodrome only had V2 capabilities.
No, they have V2 and V3.
Listen, dude, you must have
missed my whole space where I explained
all the inner machinations
of these DEXs and stuff because
I can explain
that stuff later. We won't do it right now because
it's just so long-winded. But just
know that they have V2 and V3,
but both of their V2s and V3s
are less capital efficient than our v2s
and v3s and i can explain all that and you and you could figure it out if you go and look a little
bit at what aerodrome does to kind of decide their uh yield and stuff but i'll i'll explain it later
um okay so anyway the top four pools are almost equal in supply.
So 1425 plus 1260 is Aerodrome.
Okay.
And then 1131 plus 1303 is 9mm.
It's basically dead on the nuts.
Pretty much the exact same amount of XCH.
That's the top four Chia pools on base.
The fifth pool, however, and the sixth pool, and the eighth pool, and the 11th pool, and the 12th pool,
and the 11th pool, and the 12th pool, and the 14th pool, and the 15th pool, and the 16th pool,
and the 17th pool, and the 18th pool, and the 19th pool, and the 20th pool, and the 21st,
22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th, 27th, 28th, 29th, 30th pool for XCH are on 9MN.
My 30th pool for XCH are on 9MM.
Okay?
Now, obviously, there's going to be a, you know, kind of an obvious fall off in liquidity,
but let's just go to the fifth largest pool.
Oh, another 785 XCH.
9MM already beating Aerodrome.
Let's go to the sixth pool.
Oh, another 785 XCH.
Let's go to the next pool. Oh, another 284 XCH. We already have more XCH than all of Aerodrome.
We also have it in better pairs. The majority of theirs is up against usdc so they're having the worst of the opportunity trade-off they have to buy all the chia with
stable coins which can only be worth a dollar they can never get the xch from an appreciation
in eath because they don't have that kind of depth and that kind of pair. We do. We also have XCH paired to things like Netcoin.
Let's go look at the Netcoin XCH pool.
Just, you know, we'll get away from the quote-unquote tier one liquidity thing.
And let's go look at what Netcoin has.
Oh, 1,000 XCH.
Paired to 529 netcoin.
Interesting.
We not only have more XCH than everyone else in the market,
we have more XCH than Crypto.com,
we have more XCH than OKX,
we have more XCH than Aerodrome.
We not only own more XCH,
We've already allocated more XCH than them, 2,500, almost 2,600 XCH to Merkle campaigns that pay us on top of trading fees, on top of appreciation of the assets.
we've already allocated more XCH than them.
A16Z venture, formerly known as Validrome.
These are the most well-funded
industry insiders with contracts
and employees and bonuses
and stocks. And we have
more Chia than all of them.
I know Chia wasn't as sexy until Gene Hoffman told you Dunktober.
And I know that me telling you that Necklords are cool doesn't go as far as slow as Time Lord telling you that Necklords are cool.
But know this.
You are cool.
You're cooler than Aerodrome.
You're cooler than Coinbase.
You're cooler than A16Z.
You are more powerful because you have a higher conviction. In the world of speculation, in the world of investing, you've got to have big brass balls to outperform the field.
You are taking the lead in your own life. You are deciding. I do believe the evidence is abundant and suggests the price of Chia will be higher in the future, not because of degeneracy, but because of a logical procession of uses and benefits solving people's problems all over the world.
solving people's problems all over the world. You also don't have all the vested interests
of your pre-existing network requiring you to shield malinvestment and ignore
performative alternatives because you can't risk the network effect of your influence pivoting across your owned interests into a new interest that you don't have a defensible position of.
So when Aerodrome eventually gets all the votes from all the BTC maxis, they're all going to start sending a ton of aero rewards to those liquidity pools.
But you will not be earning jack shit. They're going to
dilute you to fucking zero. They're going to take 100% of the rewards out of Aerodrome,
and you're going to get less trading fees and worse than market return on your Aero.
The same way everyone does with Bitcoin and ETH and Bitcoin USDC over there.
The only people that are doing well are the insiders that have the unbelievably larger
side of those assets.
So you're not earning anywhere near the APR that the whales are earning in Aerodrome.
And you probably will have the same
kind of distribution effects across any liquidity pool. If it's a publicly available math formula,
then it's going to kind of always work its way there. The difference is they don't give a fuck
about aerodrome. They just saw all the money that was poured into building it. And they said,
if I'm going to get rugged, I'm going to get rugged by the best.
And that's why they're going to get rugged by the best.
I don't care if they disagree.
I don't care if they don't like 9mm.
I don't care if they don't think that the front end works.
I don't care if they don't like the stats page.
I don't care.
None of that matters.
None of that matters.
What matters is the smart contracts operating on the public ledger are able to
integrate the math that is being imputed into it whenever a contract function is called. That's
the only thing that matters. It's the only thing that gets measured. And so if we just take the
long shot value of Chia becoming very valuable down the road and we pile in today, we can overcome any need for
expensive infrastructure and clever mechanics and voting rights and yield beacon. And nope,
I'm just gonna, you told me that it's a valuable asset, but it's underpriced. Okay,
I'll buy it until that's not the case. And if you're telling me that over time it will outperform the market, then I will use that as the beacon liquidity to attract providers.
What did you think they were going to Aerodrome for?
You thought that they wanted the Aero token?
No, they just know that the Aero token is liquid.
They want Chia.
They want Bitcoin.
Why isn't anyone paying them Chia or Bitcoin?
Because the people also want Chia and Bitcoin. Why isn't anyone paying them Chia or Bitcoin? Because the people also want Chia and Bitcoin. They're not going to give it to you to be more profitable just because you want to be. We can make that decision. We actually can take advantage of time-displaced value at the level of price, make a large wholesale investment, and then only allow the merits of those who take the risk, who go into the fray of liquidity providing, to earn those rewards.
And that's a really cool opportunity.
We are going to have more ChCH than Aerodrome or OKX or Crypto.com.
Within our Tang gang, we have whales that own enormous positions in XCH, probably because someone never stopped pounding the drum and those people decided
to rotate their capital to where the future suggests it could be treated best. The size of
significance of exposure that the Tang Gang has to Chia will bitch slap A16Z and Coinbase every day,
week after week, month after month, year after year, until they realize we should probably just
pay them to do the evangelizing of the network itself. Because otherwise, every time we get out
of bed to launch another project, they're going to pay a higher APR on a better asset and not have
to do any of the building or dev debt or testing or launching. They are just paying people gold to provide liquidity between gold
and Netcoin. Netcoin is the better, dumber Bitcoin. And you are going to learn that reality.
There's only 11,000 coins. There's only 11,000 warp cells. You want to go
forever into the future of value?
You're going to need one whole net coin to pull it off.
Okay?
You don't
think that it's a matter of
scarcity until the next
Merkle campaigns that go live.
Degen makes it so that you have to be
holding one whole liquid net
coin and then you realize, well, hold on.
That means that there's a maximum of less than 11,000 people who can even participate.
Yeah.
Just like there's less than 11,000 people who are making market competitive Bitcoin yield over an aerodrome.
That's just the way she goes.
But your ability to earn the yield is going to be a
socially enforced rule set. All you have to do is get along in the community and you'll be fine.
The people who don't see the value or think, oh, well, they're not rich enough, they're not
official enough, they're not suited enough, they will just miss out. I don't give a fuck. I wasn't
trying to get their liquidity. The Federal Reserve and the central banking system are my exit
liquidity. The New York Stock Exchange and the NASDAQ are my exit liquidity, okay? I don't give
a fuck about a couple of idiots on Aerodrome that have too much Bitcoin in the ETH. Fuck them.
They can just watch Netcoin go to $1,000. I don't give a shit. What have they done for you? What exactly are they doing for you? Nothing. They're launching Sybil attack
projects on their own fucking blockchain. Fuck them. They can just watch. Let the boy watch.
That's how I feel when I see Coinbase talking crazy about MAG7 and stuff. It's like, listen,
let the boy watch. This netcoin thing is going to
outperform coinbase stock it's going to outperform bitcoin are you kidding me bitcoin's been around
for fucking 15 years you think that we're not going to beat the mature adoption of bitcoin in
a world that rotates into chia when we already have chia and 11 000 max supply you guys are
fooling yourselves you're absolutely afraid of your
own power. It's got to be a fear thing. There's no other explanation I can come to.
People are not taking their own power level seriously enough. You have resources that will
make the very empires of today tremble. They will have to go to their
spreadsheets and go to their analytics page and discern through all of the information flow that
there is a group of people they cannot buy and cannot control who are able to offer the market
better returns. How will they explain it? What will they tell their people
when they're being outperformed
by a bunch of neckbeards on the internet?
Look, I don't expect them to bend the knee yet.
But I'm not going anywhere.
I'm not going anywhere,
so I hope they're ready to go all the way.
They better be willing to go all the way.
And what are they betting on? Bitcoin and ETH?
Okay, me too. And Shia. And Netcoin.
Good luck. I hope you nailed it. I hope your two beats my four.
Good luck. I hope you nailed it. I hope your two beats my four. Good luck.
Good luck.
Seems like a pretty big risk to take to not cover the four, but good luck. I don't care.
There will be no quarter. There will be no mercy. You can watch. You can simply watch.
There will be a group of people that outperform everyone else, and you can just watch.
Be a group of people that outperform everyone else, and you can just watch.
You thought they were going to invent a new – what do you think they're going to have, quantum AI sexbot yield?
What do you think is going to outperform the settlement layer of global finance before it becomes priced in, how will that measure up to whatever
fantasy thing it is that you're inventing that does this massive ROI, but you saw it
coming fast enough to get exposure to it and to sustain the ownership? so i just sit back and laugh dude and you saw what happens when the community rolls up everyone's gotten tired no one wants to make
memes me included it's tough dude it's tough i'm inspired but sometimes the images don't come to my
brain just right so it's hard to make the memes and everyone's kind of like zapped and tapped
and i'm cool with that that's fine rest recharge
we've got some time ahead to get that so that you're mentally right for the the fun and exciting
times but also keep in mind that we rolled up on jesse who was at his corporate retreat for developers and investors for the coinbase ecosystem on-chain ecosystem
and we simply put a lob raid on my post and then had zero x corporate account and matcha
corporate account like the post and begin a conversation with me and the dns about integration
they wish they could fork the tang gang that's all they're missing if they could just invent
demand if they could just invent consumers if they could just invent brand loyalists if only
they could what if we minted a bunch of diehard fans brian could we just what's the erc contract
for the community has anyone deployed that yet
i thought too spooky did it when i saw hex orange address i said i know what an orange is that's a Has anyone deployed that yet?
I thought too spooky did it.
When I saw Hex Orange address, I said, I know what an orange is.
That's a pre-sliced fruit that looks like the sun.
How did I know? By the fruits.
So it's very simple for me.
They are the ones that have to contrive these extremely sophisticated apparatus to hide where the yield is going.
That's all it is. You want to know why they don't have an open book pricing model?
Because people that don't make as much money as them would point at them and say, you're making too much money.
I don't like that you make that much money and my life isn't getting better. So they will never show you.
They will hide it and then they will just simply pay themselves Christmas bonuses and
stock vesting options and they'll laugh all the way to the bank while explaining to you
at the quarterly report that they got to get lean because reasons.
They're never going to explain to you exactly where the yield comes from and that's why
we have things like dividend yield.
But dividend yield alone doesn't tell us the full story of the company's profitability.
There are other facets that we have to be able to discern and go through the documentation to prove.
So they have all of the formulas, all of the sophistication, all of the rules and the the lore and they will be
outperformed by a group of neckbeards on the internet what is up art hey big thank you out
to gooey for always fucking holding it down the only motherfucker i know on the internet who has
had a longer space by 30 percent more um 90 fucking two hours long. I got 68 something and I fucked it up, Gooey.
But hats off to you.
I'm glad to be your number two.
Speaking of the second space is now starting up.
Drack's going to spin it up in just a minute to relieve Gooey.
Thank you for holding it down, sir.
Big shout out to Mr. Degen Waffles.
Love you, buddy.
Ate some pancakes the other night and thought of you during it
saying you know
waffles are better but waffle lives
matter okay so I decided on pancakes
instead big shout out to
David right here if you didn't know
that's a picture of him in Toronto
he looked a lot better at the
beginning of the night in this picture than he did the next
morning I know because we
were there big shout out to everybody in the audience the 222 um tonight uh at 12 p.m
we are we will be officially at the halfway mark four and a half days in uh right now we're uh you
know just three hours in over the four day mark um yeah thanks for everybody for holding it down we do have some
guest spots open the 25th 26th um in the evening times if you guys are interested in uh talking
about your projects are coming up and just chilling um and holding it down and talking about uh the 222
and what you guys thought about it it'll be winding the last two days down of the 222 um so if you
guys are interested in that uh definitely uh reach
out the calendars are open uh i want to thank bullish for uh for hooking it up with the website
222hr.space uh if you haven't checked it out yet definitely go check that out tons of effort
um lots and lots of fucking time so hats off to you buddy uh great job especially with everything
that's going on uh in your life at this time we all are busy we all have family lives we all are getting the the side eye uh from everybody
we're around for the last four and a half days they don't get it they don't understand it uh but
you guys are here holding it down anyway so appreciate you even if you're just listening
to space on fucking mute in the background at work on a work computer um or you're actually
listening i appreciate and love you guys and uh and nobody's ever gonna probably fucking listen back to these spaces so they're too long to listen
back through unless you're listening to him on like 2x speed but you can't really understand uh
gooey he kind of sounds like hitler at that point uh on 2x speed uh talking and ranting on for a
couple hours at a time but um love you guys appreciate you uh much love to gooey we'll be
starting up a space and i'll be sharing it up top.
Very cool. I'll get the rotation going once we have the link there.
I remembered what I was going to do and that was to go and check the APRs on Merkle.
Even with the fall in XCH price, the XCH being paid out in the Netcoin-wrapped ETH pool is 23% APR. The Netcoin being paid out in that pool is 60% APR. Going to Netcoin CBBTC pool, XCH paying
out is 20.96% APR, and the Netcoin being paid out is 55% APR. Remember, you need Netcoin to
participate in the Netcoin liquidity pool Merkle campaigns. You're also one day going to need to hold one whole Netcoin
to even get to own a share of those Merkle campaigns.
I don't know how much Netcoin you have, but maybe make sure you've got one.
It's going to be a pretty expensive price tag.
It's like $35, $40.
It is not a cup of coffee.
But just imagine taking a week of Starbucks off and getting one Netcoin.
What is up, D-Gen?
Maybe sooner. You never DJ? Maybe sooner.
You never know.
Maybe sooner.
and I'm going to bully Jean into making it to where the neck beard punks get
free,
open door policy at the new Permuda capital,
headquarters.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Yeah,
man,
these,
these campaigns are no joke.
it's unfortunate that we are kind of like moths to the flame, right?
We are the unadept to the Promethean fire and we can't wait for someone to tell us that it's worth it.
We can't do the math on our own. We need someone more popular, more famous, more handsome, perhaps, if only it were so simple, to be able to tell us that
there is an opportunity out there worth participating in. But the math checks out.
These are unique opportunities, and the Neckbeard Masons, which do not exist, are set for a long-term
approach to what will continue to be an ever-growing value contribution to the great online world,
right? The people, ordinary folks being able to communicate together, collaborate together,
keep a safe distance together, and work on really cool things that can improve
outcomes all over the world. So these are the seeds we choose to plant. We will never get a
second pass. Who would have known it would be called neck coin? Who would have known it would be neck beards? Who would have known that any of that would matter at all?
But let's not fumble it because we want our own name or we want our own art or something. Let's take special account and appreciation for those who have gotten over themselves and are contributing to such an incredible movement that others can network
into and be benefited from and rewarded from. We have a very special and unique opportunity.
Chia Network and the SEC have afforded us a little bit more time than we thought maybe we
were going to have. I don't know why we would waste it coping or second guessing ourselves.
why we would waste it coping or second-guessing ourselves. When someone gives me free real estate,
I take it. I take it. This is free real estate. The price of necklords has never been cheaper,
and you weren't buying them for the value that they offer today. You're affording yourself
an expansionary timeline of opportunity and value appreciation. The fact that you are in the early
boarding party means that you can earn more netcoin supply, more XCH rewards, and you can
hold that netcoin before other people come to chase the yield. Remember, if XCH price goes up,
the APR is going to change. The only side of those pools that are going to become
more valuable will be the XCH side. Well, Netcoin has four rewarded pools, and only one of them
is XCH. So those other three pools, TVLs, will have to move as a product of NEC coin repricing against the increasing value of XCH.
What that means is in the future, should XCH go to a large number or just look at the current APR
and then imagine multiples? If we're getting paid 20% APR right now in the NEC coin CBBTC pool,
we would be getting paid roughly 40% APR if XCH was $18.
What APR are you getting paid at $180?
What APR are you getting paid at $1,000?
How many years do you think it takes for Chia to get to $1,000 per coin? Is it more than four and a half years or is it fewer than four and a half years?
These are all unknowable things but we can
continue to look better at predicting the future by expanding the time horizon that we hold ourselves
accountable by and that's why i'm hoping to see a decade of net coin merkel campaigns baby i'm
gonna go see if drag space is up yet i haven't seen it whoops wrong guy track i don't see it yet so we'll just hold it down until they get their
space launched but yeah this is this is really cool and since we have dgen up here and i usually
give them such a hard time in front of you guys i just want to give you some public flowers
don't take it like it's an actual compliment i just actually have to kill time in this space
um man i i really do appreciate you uh taking time to come and have fun with me over on Pulp Chain.
We're killing time all the time.
It means a lot that you were willing to go where so few were willing to go.
To bring a message of fun and opportunities to engage in just being human, just not having to be the most
sophisticated, not having to be the master of the chart or the future of finance wizard, just
having fun with regular people on the internet and sharing your passion for kind of funny art
styles and Microsoft paint legend and giving us things that we can collect and that we can enjoy while we
continue learning and trying to put ourselves in positions to be successful.
And I know that you have not gone unscathed during the journey. No one would really know
because you don't complain about it publicly, but there's definitely adversity and challenges
and times that I've felt bad because
people have treated D-Gen with what I feel is kind of an unfair sentiment at times, and it never
stopped him. He never wavered. He never gave up. He never gave in, and that is probably one of the
greatest qualities that you can find in a friend is someone who never gives up. So I'm happy to call you my friend.
I'm happy to be a neckbeard.
I'm the proud owner of the Neckbeard Orange Punk OG.
It's my most prized NFT possession.
And I can't wait to see what we're able to build as a collective over the next several years
and to see where the lives of my friends go.
Congratulations on having your own neckbearded baby and continuing to pursue your career and
you're taking good care of your health. And that makes me happy. And so I can't wait to see where
things will be a couple of years from now, but I'm in no rush to get there. I'm enjoying the ride.
I'm enjoying the grind. And I think we have a really unique opportunity to build special things
that hopefully we'll live long enough to enjoy. But if we don't, we'll program it so that other
people do. And I just wanted to give you your flowers because I know that we get to talk
privately about the forces in play and the challenges and the adversity and
you're you're a leader because you don't make the challenge everyone else's challenge you're
you're willing to accept that the path ahead is going to be bumpy it's going to be difficult and
that is not going to stop us it's just sometimes we might need to lean on each other so you know
you can always lean on me and i appreciate all the times you've been there for myself because it is not a one-way street in that regard so thank
you brother uh i'm not i'm not gonna be able to have anything really effective to say after i
i plus you're gay yeah yeah no i was just gonna say like well number one brother like it's
fucking easier to go into battle when you know you got fucking good people beside you but like we we've always made that joke kind of like behind closed doors
like if the tang gang ever knew how much we bled for them half these fuckers wouldn't have anything
to do like and that's that's just the energy man like everything from the beginning of the
neckbeard punks was always like the whole energy was like give more than i've given because i don't
deserve half of it like whether it's the meme or not right and then you know what now it's
like it's such a fucking beautiful time right now because the neck lords have literally pushed
pushed neck coin and pushed the neckbeards and pushed all of the fucking blood sweat and tears
we put into this shit for two and a half three years like now we're multi-year and it's it's not me having to come every day and scream and and be the meme
and be the character and the neck lords and the people that have supported the neck lords and the
neck growth campaign it's like everything in crypto is usually fucking one and done two days
max maybe you'll get a week maybe you'll get a year if you're
really lucky it's like we have campaigns that are set up for multiple years so whether you hate net
coin or whether you love net coin you're not going to stop seeing net coin and that is like the the
greatest thing that i feel like we've all accomplished and it makes me so happy it's like
i can breathe knowing that then the next day isn't directly on my shoulders like
we have all come together so fucking heavily and we've built the lore so strong they're like
new people coming in don't realize why people keep throwing this fedora in there or why they
keep throwing these funky glasses in there why this certain there's this certain memetic energy
in the background it's like dude we've ingrained
ourselves so deeply we built an entire fucking community just around the lore the fun the
memetics from the ground up there's so many things that dude i can look at everybody's pfp in here
and i could tell you who made it and i understand the design elements because i've used that in my
own stuff now because we you know we to fucking, we contributed to something more than ourselves for over two years.
It's so rare that I always tell people, just take a second and realize how rare that is, dude, because it's always the next thing.
And when you can push past it just being the next thing, you realize it's always been the next thing.
I don't know how I ended back at the tagline, but appreciate it brother absolutely you're still gay though and also drac is hosting a space
pinned it up above rotate over there i'm gonna go get a little bite to eat and then i'll uh
swing in there probably in a in an hour if he's still going which he won't be perfectly timed
execution but go in there, support our friends,
talk about whatever you enjoy.
Also,
I want to give a shout out to the go for me economy and Josh painter for
building and,
and being open-minded to community feedback and stuff like that.
What up,
I see your hand up.
I almost forgot the shell.
I have the world's.
So if you know where to find that, go look for that. The neckbeards were like, well, the neckbeards are like, you have the world's ugly powers. So if you know where to find that, go look for that.
The neckbeards were like...
The neckbeards were like, you have to...
Your mic broke up when you said what it is.
Oh, yeah, yeah. You have your
auctioned the neckbearded Pepe.
Pepe from 2023.
Fucking Thick Thickerson was like,
you won't fucking auction it. I was like, alright,
I gotta fucking auction it now. So that's live right now.
Hell yeah, dude. I'm probably getting it. Actually it actually i might not i forgot that the neckbeard masons have some fucking deep pockets but i'll try um i'll fight and drive valiantly for the pepe
all right let's rotate over to to drag space but again shout out to josh and the go from the
economy i'll talk about that some more i think I have a space scheduled later this week or something.
And I want to get into that because I think it's another pretty unique opportunity both for our community and for the open market of people that may come and participate in the future.
So anyway, thanks for coming to my space.
Thanks for listening to all of my crazy rambles and rants. Thank you to the neck lords for giving us something to look forward to every single day for the next couple of years.
And in this industry, that may as well be 50 decades.
It's very cool. It's very awesome.
Now let's shut up and rotate.
Rotate! Thank you.
