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222hr Chia Marathon: 🌱 Creating an NFT project on Chia start to finis
Recorded: Sept. 21, 2025 Duration: 3:04:22Space Recording
Short Summary
A new NFT project is set to launch on the Chia blockchain, focusing on community collaboration and innovative fundraising strategies. The team is exploring various aspects of the project, including token launches, partnerships, and growth opportunities, while aiming to create a unique collection that reflects the ethos of the crypto community.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you hey edward looks like it's me and you we'll take the early morning stint um yeah i've got my uh i've got some pens and paper
i'm gonna uh i'm gonna brainstorm for the next hour or so but before that i wanted to
wanted to just uh pin some posts up and stuff because uh we've managed to hit the front page
of lurky which is pretty damn cool let me see if I can pin that to the top hey DeGener I have learned your location now which is great I wasn't
sure where you were in the world yeah so kind of the plan is to just uh it's just to brainstorm either amongst
you guys in the chat or up in stage or uh or with myself and just uh kind of play around with some
ideas today figure out what we want to do within the time scale we've got um for anybody that's kind of created a uh an nft kind of project or or some artwork before
you know that there's kind of a little bit more to it than just the um than just kind of uh creating
some art and just putting on chain there's uh you've got to you've got to kind of think about
a few more things and play around with stuff so uh um yeah you've got to have of think about a few more things and play around with stuff so yeah you've got to have like a bit more vision you've got to start thinking about how the
metadata is laid out you need to think about like your collection icons and your banners and things
like that so yeah but Edward how's it going let's uh before we before we dive into any of that stuff
let's uh let's uh have a little recap of what you've been witnessing overnight.
I'd like to hear about Foods' rant.
Yeah, I didn't know what he was going to say before, because there's been some back and forth in the Chiaplot Discord.
And basically, Foods has been sort of, he said that people have been too critical generally.
And then the Pimuto thing happened, the delay, I guess, which I presume you heard about on the night one.
Did you hear about that?
Yeah, yeah.
So when, then, I don't know, in the Discord, his tone changed slightly.
And then he was like, I'm going up to, he basically said to fud cni he was he's always sort
of done that anyway you know he'll find anyone uh so but then part way through uh someone came up
on stage and said just to let you know that i'm we're currently playing the space at the san
francisco meetup in uh where gene and bram are so i think i I don't know for sure they were listening to what you said,
but you could go back and listen to his space.
It was pretty animated,
worth one worthy of replaying,
I guess.
Was it?
Was it?
Yeah.
I don't,
I don't follow many of this.
In fact,
I don't,
I don't do many of the discord stuff.
So it's,
it's one of those,
who we got coming up? Let's have a look. It's one of those um um who we got coming up let's have a look it's one of those
ones i don't follow let me just uh get this guy up i don't know if i know this person but we'll
say hello anyway uh but yeah i'd like to definitely uh i'll listen back to some of that
he doesn't hold back does he when he's uh when he's critical so uh who we got up on them cyberpunk punks how's it going buddy
how are you doing i'm good i'm good i'm good what brings you what brings you up here today
the thought of uh you know uh
chia right yeah yeah yeah have you heard of the chia blockchain before
um yeah and uh i'm uh and i'm like
i truly am so what's gonna happen soon
so what's the plan the plan the plan um, so part of the kind of this 220 two hour cheer marathon, I've, I've been allocated or, or I've volunteered to do, um, like the next eight, eight days or nine days is kind of like three hour slots every day from sort of now to, well three hours basically um and the plan is to kind of go do a walkthrough
talk through of how kind of i would go about creating something on the you know an nft project
on the chea blockchain maybe look at some of the utilities that could be utilized that's that's
kind of already out there um and go from kind of start to finish where um you know we kind of discuss what what
we're going to create uh go from there to start doing some some art concepts uh to kind of then
creating that work thinking about what metadata goes into it thinking about kind of the bigger
picture about um you know are we gonna are we gonna sell these maybe for some funds to go
into the sort of 222 arrow cheer marathon kind of pot or are we gonna do it as like a like a
giveaway at the end that that people can claim i don't know i literally haven't thought about it
i'm literally going to go into this kind of blind and be led by people's suggestions and uh someone someone had a
good suggestion the other day about um kind of any dormant collection out there maybe doing something
where um we create a collection and do swaps so you swap for these kind of dormant old collections
and you get a new a new kind of nft in in replace of it as part of a new collection but lots of different
ideas to float around the idea is that by the end of the kind of eight or nine days the last day
we either give them out or sell them or swap them whatever whatever the plan is um yeah and that's
the that's the crux of what i'm going to try and do over the next few days i know i know i'm like
i don't know where you are in the world but it's kind of like 3 3 a.m in the uh in the u.s so it is this is kind of early early morning kind of u.s stuff
uh and reasonably early for europe and stuff as well so i'm not expecting too many people in the
space but um it should be it should be good fun to play around with and hopefully hopefully people
will kind of follow the chat down below where we start posting some ideas and join in throughout the day and then
we pick up the stuff the next day and and see whether it's you know worth changing things so
yeah that's the plan what about yourself are you uh are you an artist yourself
no well i do a bit of photoshop uh i'm not really sure if I play a bit of music.
I don't know even really what an artist is, but if I'm an artist with anything, it's probably the guitar, but a bit of Photoshop as well.
Yeah, I see. I see you're pretty handy with the old Photoshop.
I can see the things you put on your timeline is um you know with the the music
stuff is is pretty damn cool what about uh cyberpunk uh oh we've got ice labs coming up as well
that's cool let's hold up cyberpunk uh yeah are you much of an artist yourself cyberpunk
or maybe not where ice labs jump on the stage as well i saw i did see i couldn't join in but i saw
you ice labs hosted a uh um uh kind of a uh um uh was it jitsu kind of like animation or not
animation but drawing 2d drawing type thing yesterday that looked pretty good i'll
have to i was going to try and listen into that but i i couldn't so yeah how's how's you anyway
buddy yeah good morning it's uh 9 a.m here um i really had fun yesterday i just uh showed people
just the basics of illustrator drawing 2d on adobe illustrator and it was it was very fun for me
like everyone uh everyone attended uh i got like 14 people in the jitsi room and uh it was fun
it was really fun for me uh and i hope people enjoyed it too it was just 2d on illustrator just the basics of 2d for
the first class and we're gonna move a bit further and continue the character
will join on the next class that's great that's great maybe maybe we could you
know the idea of this space is to throw some ideas around. Maybe we can utilize some of the stuff that you're doing
for kind of this two-two.
My thinking is that we do something orientated
around the 222-hour space.
But maybe we can kind of link together
so that we can create something together and go from there.
That sounds like a good starting
point to me so what what was you um what was your kind of drawing then what was your what was the
inspiration to to kick you off yeah it was it was just uh basically the robot on a psp i was just
showing people how to draw it with simple shapes squares and just just mostly squares so we haven't
gotten to the arm that's where we're going to do some curvy So we haven't gotten to the arm.
That's where we're going to do some curvy lines.
We're going to use the pencil to do curvy lines.
So it was just mostly shapes.
What are you thinking of doing for the collection?
Well, this is it.
I'm coming in with this completely blind
because I haven't really thought about it too much
because I wanted to do all my thinking kind of in this space um so some of the some of the yeah yeah i've like just
just i've got nothing planned at all uh it's just kind of completely blind but i know obviously
we're going to mint it on the chia blockchain and um and that's all i know so um my thinking so far are uh from kind of because you
can't help but think a few things but obviously something orientated around the 222 hour space
is my thinking and whether that's kind of like a i don't know a badge or um or um i don't know maybe a completely new collection maybe there's only a hundred pieces
maybe there's only 50 pieces uh could be 10 000 pieces i i i haven't really thought about it too
much at all so um i guess throwing it out to you guys that are on the stage here what would
what would you do if you was in my shoes now? Would you try and concentrate on, say, I don't know, just numbers-wise,
a hundred kind of pieces that sort of commemorate this kind of marathon
and maybe look back at the spaces that have happened
and kind of orientate each little individual one around the spaces that have existed?
Or what would you do?
For me, getting the collection ready takes about two to three weeks.
So I think in between the marathon spaces, with the spaces going on,
with going on stage, there's no time to like do a full
collection if there is time but like if you want to do a professional one or one that's gonna like
look clean and all so my suggestion is uh i'm doing a cards some sort of cards that unlock NFTs, like maybe in the next two weeks after the spaces are finished,
that gives time to clean up the collection, the art and everything.
Yeah. Yeah. What do you reckon, Edward? Any opinions?
oh there we go
Oh, there we go. There's a problem unmuting.
there's a problem unmuting
my first thought is that
just click on your name
is it Ice Labs
is it Ice Labs
the first piece
should be by Ice Labs
whatever happens
if he wants to submit something
but I'm a big believer
in just organic chronology
and whoever's just there at the first moment,
just for some reason, history,
just sort of Michael Taylor again.
It means something.
So one way or another,
I feel Ice Lab's having the first piece,
but it doesn't have to be all one person
doing the collection, I guess.
I mean, with all the listeners,
perhaps different people could submit one and it could be like 222 by 100 people, something like that, or
but not everyone doing all of it, perhaps, is my first thought.
Well, from what I get from that is, I personally think we should have 222 pieces in the collection.
should have 222 pieces in the collection that sounds like a good number to kind of commemorate
what's what's happened and and um and i think i think because um i don't know people people
probably know but i'm behind the uh the mini marmots uh the mini millionaire marmot collection
and that took me i don't know probably uh well it took it took me a few months to kind of come up
with all the uh the 125 characters but to actually create it like after that with kind of the tools
i had didn't take me that long i'm i'm gunning for like having this created and and i think we're
going to have to probably use some AI tools
to get it done within the kind of nine days.
But I would like to have by day, the last day of this marathon,
the pieces ready to roll and ready to do whatever we want with them.
So that's kind of my thinking.
And I think, like you say, labs to do to do what you would do and create it by
kind of hand and certainly with degena and and others in the room as well and mojuice to do it
by hand we'd never do it in time not to do it properly but i mean really we've got kind of
today to throw ideas around um probably two or three days probably to sort the artwork out
uh a day or a couple of days even to do the metadata properly and make sure we've got the
banners and the icons the did set up and um you know make sure that um make sure that's in place
and then by the time we do that we're almost ready at the stage where we want to mint them and then decide what we're going to do with them so it is it is a tight turnaround but i think we can
i think we can manage something um and and i i the monkey zoo project is certainly all done by hand
and our artist tom is is really pretty good at it i know the monkey zoo characters are pretty basic and i've talked about that before because the idea is that we do use ai to to go from 2d to 3d which i'm which i'm working on right
now but um but i think for this we probably need to lean heavily into the ai side of things and
play around with prompts to try and get what we wanted to do properly so um but i do like the idea of the
222 222 pieces uh and maybe maybe we auction them off maybe we go via mint garden and auction them
off so that uh and then kind of put this wallet together where we've got this multi-seat like
vault where it's kind of funds for you know know, next year's kind of marathon space.
I don't know.
What's people's thinking about, like, the bigger picture type thing?
What are we doing this for, is probably the question.
Yeah, I think having many artists on the project would be a good idea.
You monkeys who you can do the character, then we can have a couple more artists.
I can work on different kind of traits. artists uh i can work on different kind of
traits the genna can work on different kind of traits we can get another artist to work on
other traits um i think we could get it done between the spaces if we have many artists working on
yeah yeah yeah yeah i think so as well i think it's it's possible it's possible it's uh it's
definitely people having the time i know i know after i've done my three hours uh like today i i
won't have any more time to do much you know my my my exact plan is to try and do all this within
the spaces i know it's a tall ask a tall order um but i think if we kind of throw some ideas around now
about whether i mean who's as a consensus with thumbs up and stuff 222 pieces does that sound
about right do you reckon that's kind of what we should be aiming for that's some hands there
some thumbs up there let's see if we get any thumbs up from the audience. See if anyone's awake.
It takes a couple of minutes
for the audience.
Sometimes the thumbs up in the audience don't
work.
I'm not sure if it's
consistent evidence of voting.
There might be someone there.
There we go.
There we go. It takes probably
about 20, 30 seconds for it to come through so
right we've got we've got one decision made 222 pieces in this nft collection on cheer that's a
that's a good start i guess i guess like the the next question is why are we why are we doing this
are we doing it as a free thing are we doing this as a um a kind of funding thing to to put in
a pot for next year's um next year's kind of marathon space to maybe have some funds there
so that so that we can get a bit more creative and maybe a bit more professional or or are we
going to just do this as a poab type thing? What's people's thoughts?
I think if it gets a bit of mystique during the space, because it's a one-off space that can't happen again,
one-off conversation,
I think people would be willing to pay for it.
So I feel an auction for each piece might work.
If it took place on the last day, especially, it'd be exciting.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we could do that we could do
like um um say say 222 pieces over a 24-hour period so you could do you could do fast and
furious auctions via mint garden where you know if you do let's do the maths let's do the maths
then we get a calculator up let me get a calculator let's work
out i think that i think that's probably a good idea uh let me have a look let's have a look so
222 divided by 24 hours equals 9.25 10 an hour i don't know like you could do an overlap so every
10 minutes an auction appeared and every every 10 minutes one finishes. I don't know whether that would work or not
or maybe
How else would you do that?
How else would you do that?
Maybe just
Shedded a space just one space only for the auctions
Yeah, you could do yeah, yeah you could do yeah yeah you could do um that's a lot to do i mean that
last that last three so the last space i'm going to do will be three hours long if we can try and
well if that wouldn't i see see i always think along the lines that if you do something like
that at the time you've got to think about time zones.
So if you can spread it over a 24 hour period, then there's the potential to make sure that everybody across the globe gets a shout at grabbing one.
you was to do a collection like this and you do auctions you could probably do um you'd probably
want to do something where there's some form of rarity in there so that maybe more or some auctions
are more fought after than others um you know you could probably run say 10 at a time
or or 22 at a time would work wouldn't it 22 at a time um on mint garden and you know maybe the
rarities you kind of maybe you mint them and the rarities all set live on mint garden and 22 of
them at a time click up every hour or so uh to be bidded on i don't know this is this is what the
the brainstorming goes isn't it i kind of like
the idea of that and then obviously you know what are the funds for and then where do the royalties
go maybe maybe the the funds and the royalties are all set up on a kind of a multi-seq vault
where for the royalties you could stick that on a developer say michael taylor what say all of them
but then for the what you make from it that could go to another developer or a project to fund it or
spread it around a bit maybe yeah yeah so yeah there's there's options there isn't there that
either um that kind of leans into something else there should should be kind of this developer pool which
is something something as with another hat on that i have is the xch foundation hat where um
you know there's a there's a kind of a pool of xch we're trying to build up where
uh that goes out to developers but that's probably a bit of a digress um but do so do you think the idea of this kind of short-term project as such this
kind of nine-day project should it be kind of built to support future to your marathon events
or should it be built to kind of support the the ecosystem as a whole, you know, developers like Yak and Rigidity and Michael Taylor, etc, etc.
I think something now in the I think the community needs it now
more than the future. And also next year, if we could do the
same again, maybe this will be your big thing that like sweeps
around social media and stuff. And it's, you know, it goes
without saying it happens so yeah i feel
of the two choices i'd probably say although you could save some back for the next year as well
doesn't have to all go out i guess but i'd say that lots of people need funding more than anything
i guess yeah i guess you could you could do um you could sort of set up now like a percentage
because these are the kind of things i have to think about when i'm doing things it's like you know say we do all this and we create and we and we actually
create a pot of xch you know what do we do with that do we say you know a certain percentage goes
to yak certain percentage goes to blah blah blah you know or do we do we just say simply say uh 25 goes into a uh kind of a vault for to support next year's
cheer marathon and you know 10 goes into 10 maybe goes into supporting this kind of thing for next
year so we we've maybe got a little pot of money we can we can expand on the idea and then say 50 goes to developers now and the pot
gets split between you know these these 10 developers in the ecosystem i don't know we
it's something to think about i suppose but that's kind of um that's one thing we need to think about
so where does that let me drop this down on my notepad here so uh where do funds go and then and i think the auctions work
i think the auctions are a good idea auctions that makes sense to me um and i guess
so and then royalties obviously as well soalties, maybe the royalties to keep it simple.
Well, I guess you could do the royalty split.
Or you keep it simple and just put it into,
or maybe just the royalties go into the pot for next year's Chia Marathon.
And the kind of funds raised go out to the sort of core developers
across the ecosystem so now brainstorming here brainstorming let's have a think but anyway
there's kind of some thinking we need to do around that and then i guess i guess the next step is if you make 220 NFTs, do they need to have some form of rarity amongst them to make them more kind of sought after?
Or do they just need to be kind of generic type things that are that don't really hold any kind of sort of rarity?
sort of rarity what's what's people's thinking's on that like when you when we start actually
What's what's people's thinking on that?
talking about the artwork and traits and you know do we have traits um you know is it that serious
is it something that we make 222 of this year and then we add to it next year for with another 222
pieces and just keep building up year by year and does that does that affect rankings and would that
annoy people you know
there's there's that sort of thinking what's what's people's thinking so maybe we have a
a sort of a 2025 222 collection and then next year we have a 2026 222 collection and
and sort of carry on from there because i quite like the idea of of maybe doing it every year
what do you think? Rarity? No rarity?
Rarity.
Ice Labs, do you want to go?
Yeah, rarity.
Definitely have them rarity
because there's a lot of supplies.
Only two to two.
So having them,
or maybe have some of them have rarity.
Some of them could be common.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Some of them could be common. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, you could just, yeah, you could have the kind of structure of,
you could kind of keep it simple, like the Go For Me stuff are doing,
where kind of the diamonds are kind of the rarest things and rank them down.
So you've got, like, five different types of rarity do you do you kind of have it like um with with what i did
with the mini marmots where essentially the rarity is is structured in with kind of the traits that
are built into them and within the metadata there's some information there that makes them either rare or not rare um um but rarity let me just jot that down so rarity is probably a positive and i think
i think the positives with rarity is that um it makes them a bit more sought after uh and maybe
will earn more funds via auctions um and especially if we can get them created and mint them before they kind of go up for auction.
Because people always want that number one, don't they?
Or top ten type thing.
So maybe that's something we need to do.
we need to do so uh so rarity is a tick we're gonna do that uh and then i guess um
So rarity is a tick.
We're going to do that.
i guess let's think so and then what do we put as the creator do we create a so a did maybe the did
i don't know if it's an official 222 our space did so obviously when you mint an nft on cherry you kind of mint them with a did
so that they're created by someone um that's probably sort of question for for um for drac
really to see if there's an official 222 did maybe maybe we start one um when we come to the
kind of metadata side of it and and creating them and minting them we mint them with a an
official did
that might be something i think about so i'll put a little tick next to that so so far we've got
uh 222 pieces um what we do with the funds we need to kind of narrow down to um where they go
whether it's developers where the whether the developers let me drop that down
so developers get some royalties maybe go somewhere and auctions um we want rarity we
want to mint them with a did but we need to ask drac if there's an official kind of did um
and then kind of i guess the fun part is what what are they going to be what what are the nfts
going to be are they going to be kind of characters are they going to be um you know are the other
traits to make them rare linked to the characters because because the more you the more you kind of
go down that road the more complex it comes becomes to kind of put these nfts together
and i know there's only 222 of them and they can kind of be done by hand but um i guess the more
the more complex you make it the more time they have to put into it um so i don't know what what's
people's thoughts is there is there kind of what what should they be like a robot a monster uh i don't know i don't
know this is like i say brainstorming if anyone's got any ideas down below as well feel free to just
jot them down in the in the little bubble down below because we want to the idea is that at
some point i'm going to kind of keep this conversation with text underneath so people can comment over the next 24 hours about their thoughts on it as well.
Let me just check messages, notifications, etc.
Aha, I can see DeGeneres put two, two, two pieces.
Yeah, appreciate that.
Yep, we've got that one.
I need to keep an eye on the chat as well to make sure
we're keeping up with that so yeah any any ideas of what the actual nft should be and and when you
when you make suggestions you've got to kind of think about how the metadata works as well um
because the ultimately the metadata dictates what the rarities are within the collection you know the artwork
the artwork really is kind of immaterial when it comes to rarity in a way you know you obviously
want the rarer rarer traits to be probably better looking um and more special to look at but i don't
know what's what's your thoughts people on stage here edward and ice labs What's your thoughts? People on stage here, Edward and Ice Labs, what's your thoughts on what the image should be?
I think the image should be very simple to do, like the monkey collection on your PFV.
It should be just very simple, just not hard to add traits on if we are going to have many artists working on it.
Yeah. Edward, what do you think?
I picture 222 images, I suppose,
that are all different and perhaps submitted
by different people and perhaps images of the,
images that tell the story,
a visual story of the whole 222 hours
like the ice labs piece about with the robots could be one maybe a men of foods
like the space being played at San Francisco to like maybe that's my kind of
idea everything is somehow linked to the 222 hours yeah i like that i think that's i think that should be
definitely part of it i think as well uh i think maybe um maybe the traits themselves should
should kind of um i mean do we have do we have 222 completely different images or do we have a standard image
across them where the traits kind of represent different spaces and different people's projects
and things like that because it's because it's if it's 222 kind of different images that are
created by people it's very difficult to kind of rank them with a rarity kind of vibe if that
makes sense um maybe there should be kind of a standard character or i don't know shape i don't
know i don't know something that's standardized and the traits themselves may be represented
something that's standardized and the traits themselves may be represented
why an image and the kind of metadata talks more about exactly what the trait means.
You know, for instance, you could have a character that has, I don't know, different heads,
you know, a standard kind of body and the head's different,
depending on kind of what you're
trying to represent or i don't know you've also got to think that within if there's only 222
pieces you know there's to make to make kind of them rarer or non-rarer via traits you don't want
to have that many traits involved um maybe maybe there's is there a list
somewhere of kind of all the all the hosts and co-hosts or or maybe we need to start making a
list of kind of all the people that are uh i guess kind of involved or or are we are we going
and out a path that we can't kind of manage is that is that not achievable within the
time the time zone we've got i don't know let's have a look so ice labs kind of suggested simple
and i think i think we need to go simple and i like the idea 222 different images but how do we
how do we kind of represent that in a way that makes rarity work and to try to keep a common theme
um don't know thoughts thoughts thoughts
um so i've got simple 222 different images uh linked to the spaces so linked to 222 spaces
maybe maybe we go go via lurkey and lurkey's been doing okay and kind of
look back on some of the spaces and see what lurkey has been you maybe utilize
something lurkey's kicking out because they're
kind of looking at the spaces from an ai point of view and abstracting information or do we just go
keep it simple like ice labs say create create a kind of a um a character a brand new character
around i don't know around kind of the cheer two,
two,
two ethos marathon.
Maybe it should be a,
a marathon running cheer character.
I don't know.
Something like that.
That sounds like it could be a star or something.
A marathon,
a marathon running cheer character.
I like that a lot.
That's really,
really cool.
You know, you could have, you could have a little sweatband uh different trainers uh kind of the backgrounds could be different marathon locations across the globe um
uh what else do marathon runners have water bottles there you go you've got like you've got different traits there you've got water bottles um trainers uh you know the vests they wear
um orientated around the kind of the cheer ecosystem you know lots of greens and um
um leaves and things leaves um i don't know maybe that's the starting point to go from what do
you what do you think ice labs do you think that's something that's like maybe a good idea
would that represent what we're trying to do yeah yeah it's it's a very good idea having
a character just to run in like on a running pose have a water bottle uh different backgrounds
different uh bests and there's some tags we
could put names of communities on the tags on the chest uh it's a very good idea it's a very good
start cool cool right let me let me do a little different section here so let me write down marathon runner uh traits would be say water bottles um what did we say headband
and then we can kind of you can kind of go down the road of the next thing to kind of utilize AI as much as we can to make it fast,
or whether we go down the kind of Illustrator 2D route and try and keep it simple,
kind of like the Monkey Zoo characters.
Or I don't know. I don't know. That's the next thing to discuss in it.
Let's think if we go down the kind of marathon the chia marathon runner you know we don't really
know what the character is going to be whether it could be i don't know either robotic monkey
i don't really i don't really want to do a monkey but um an alien or i don't know a leaf type character um and then what traits do we go with it we said water bottle
headband vest uh trainers
trainers obviously backgrounds so the more you do the more work is for everybody to to get involved and um you know
and maybe like if um the the people that kind of create the artwork they get a percentage of the
royalties you know if kind of ice lads wants to jump on and take control of some of the artwork
uh edward i'm sure you could play around with some ai or something and create something maybe there's a there's a case to say that within that first
part where we said we've got a pot of funds maybe 10 or 20 goes to towards the artist that create it
um i don't know i don't know this is where this is why i'm coming in completely blind
to try and see how this works.
But, yeah, let's concentrate on.
So are we happy with thumbs up from the crowd? Do you think we're happy with the kind of marathon idea,
the 2-2-2 marathon runner, whether it's in a running pose
or the finishing line pose, you know,
where they go through past the line with their hands up uh i don't know what's the thoughts
it's a thumbs up from moju he likes the idea
okay okay we're we're flying we're flying we're're only 40 minutes in and we've kind of come up with an idea of what we want to um so my go-to as it is with probably lots of things
and lots of people right now is to chuck a load of ideas into ai and see what it spits out
but that's that's kind of a little bit cheating i think at this stage but
if anyone's down there and wants to kind of throw some ideas around and thoughts,
I'm going to just quickly kind of write a post underneath this space,
throwing some ideas around as well.
No, I won't do that now.
I won't do that now.
We'll carry on thinking.
i'm thinking i'll try and i'll try and write a consent a concise post at the end of this space
Carry on thinking.
to uh to discuss or what we've discussed so right just going through it again then 222 pieces
uh purely from the artwork side of things we think possibly a marathon runner.
What do you think?
To keep it simple, the kind of the same pose,
whether it's whatever it is, whether it is kind of, you know,
a human type character, a robot, whatever,
but is it the same pose,
but do we just literally change the traits
or do we do maybe two or three different poses,
you know, one crossing the finishing
line one in the running position um i don't know one one flat on his back i don't know
and and do you think it's getting too complicated at that stage you know i want to try and get this
done dusted and ready within eight days.
So let's concentrate on the thing that I can't think of at the minute.
What would the character be?
I think it's got to be a character. If it's a marathon runner, is it kind of...
What is the character?
Humanoid?
Robotic?
I don't know. Monster? Ghost?
I don't know. People's thoughts. Any ideas of what you would create?
I know, Ice Lads, you've got a creative mind.
I don't think Edward's just dropped dropped can you bring it back up yeah i think uh a human a human
character with just a 2d human uh maybe like uh what's the name of the parts
a rick and morty character like a rick and morty character
i like a rick and morty yeah i like it yeah yeah so so sort of humanoid and but obviously cartoon like
because that's the other thing isn't it the work with the world of ai now you can make them
you know as realistic as possible you know the if if you if we're going to go
kind of down the road of ai um you have different levels of of the realism within characters uh
or or i'm going going back do we as a consensus now with with you guys on stage like would you go
would you go ai creation to create kind of the the sort of images or would you create like a
um or would you go full-on kind of illustrator photoshop uh all the other tools that are
available uh to to create these unique pieces yeah i would i would go it's completely hands-on but if
if some portions require ai and it's i think it's good to use AI for that.
But I would just do it on Illustrator, polish it up on Photoshop.
Do you have enough time, Monkeyzoo, to do them all by Illustrator? I mean AI will
definitely solve the time bottleneck but you could possibly draw
the picture by hand or with illustrator originally and feed that into the ai maybe
there's definitely things you could do i mean i i definitely won't have time
definitely not not without you know if i was if i was to create this completely on my own right now
i would 100 use ai um because i wouldn't just wouldn't have the time to be able to dedicate it
after these after these kind of three hours are done each day you know i've got other things i've
got i've got a mountain full of stuff that i need to be doing uh for the monkey zoo stuff um some stuff
for mini marmots i'm working on and and i and i like quite like seeing my family as well so
so i i definitely wouldn't have the time to do it all illustrator um um but maybe maybe you know if
there's a percentage of the funds that goes to ice labs maybe he would have
the time uh and to kind of integrate it into what he's doing with his um jitsi spaces to kind of
talk through that and kind of combine the two i don't know ice labs is that something that maybe
maybe something you'd think about or or would you not have the time either? Currently, I have nothing to do.
All I'm focused on is the spaces.
I have endless free time on my hands.
I'm done with college.
I'm just sitting at home, just working.
So I have all the time in the world.
But I suggest if you have time, you can do some of the work, and another artist can do some of the work and another artist can do some of the work,
then I can do some of the work. Or if there aren't other artists that are going to get involved,
I think I can do it. I have the time to do it.
Okay. Okay. It sounds like we're coming up with a bit of a plan. A bit of a plan.
And like you say, if we go right back to the start
where we're talking about the funds raised,
maybe we say, you know, you're here right now.
Maybe there's like, you know, 20% of the funds or whatever
go directly to you from the sales as kind of the artist.
I'd say 50% monkey zoo. i feel like that's the right 50 to ice labs 50 to say developers or whatever you think yeah yeah
yeah yeah well i think that's probably more than fair if ice labs is if ice labs wants to sort of jump in and kind of take control of
the artwork that would well that would that would definitely that would definitely boost it what do
you think so I think you're right Edward I think I don't know what the rest of the community would
say about 50% let me let's break that down if we go right back to where the
funds go so auctions so people that deserve kind of the funds from from
working on this so so developers I think that's always a useful things so artist
other anyone else sticking their hands in the tub there or maybe that maybe a
222 hour um i guess pop for kind of next year's event and i think that's probably it
um so if you split like and then the royalties obviously royalties
obviously royalties maybe maybe kind of the royalties would go into the two to our pot
and like you say 50 50 then maybe developers get 50 percent and ice labs for being the artist gets
the other 50 percent um let's have a look then he's heavily incentivized to do a good job but also
to sort of promote it because like he's getting a big share of it there and he's getting the
benefit of the chia name in a sense the space you know that we're hosting but at the same time
we don't probably have the time to do it ourselves so we get the benefit of an artist
to to do it so i feel like that's the right split
yeah okay well we can think we we can we can work on that we can we the idea is that by the end of
this space i'll write a couple of posts down below it and and people can comment on it um
and and either say yes or no we could do a poll on it whatever it's kind of a community driven thing um so
certainly if it's going to be if it's going to be done by hand uh via illustrator it is going to
take a lot of time so you know ice labs if you're up for that you certainly deserve a good percentage
of of the funds kind of raised from from the auctions um
so we do need to kind of keep it simple when it comes to kind of traits and things like that um
maybe is maybe maybe something like um the backgrounds the backgrounds so so when when you start diving into the the artwork itself you
need to probably start thinking about the size you know the pixel pixel sizes of the image um
maybe there's the ai could do the work on the backgrounds because ai backgrounds you can make
fairly fairly simply i could probably take control of that i'll probably
have time to knock out you know 10 different kind of cool backgrounds that that work uh
or maybe maybe even edward you could knock out some backgrounds i'm sure edward for sure definitely
that's probably right up my alley there we go then so backgrounds let's put backgrounds down
as edward uh edward uh and then it's like we can as we progress through this conversation we
kind of work out how many things we want of different things um so if you look numbers wise
you'd you'd have to start looking when when you do kind of rarity
type things you want a certain percentage to make them rare you want um x amount of this background
x amount of this background x amount of this background so so um from a from a kind of
i guess nft slash artist ai head when you're creating backgrounds you want to create them
obviously for a certain size you know we can decide on the size of the image and you would
probably want to create like 20 and then there's like a kind of a vote behind it to you know
narrow it down to 10 or or we need to we need to work out kind of how many of different
things you need to make the make the collection um balance when it comes to rarity um but if you
made say 20 of them put them in somewhere people could go in kind of either you know within this
group of people um you you maybe put a thread with 10 of them 10 of the best ones down there
ask people to like them the ones with the most likes kind of become the rarer ones
um something along those lines so what do you reckon edward can you handle can you handle the
backgrounds yeah for sure especially if i can do rarity with it like maybe there'll be 10 of this and 20 of that
but then a few really rare ones that are one-offs perhaps yeah exactly yeah exactly so you know um
we'll we'll work out rarities once we've worked out all the traits and background would definitely
be one of the traits so um and i know uh i can see mojo mojuice down below and jenna that this is something that um
all kind of nft artist creators certainly when they're going down the route of of rarity have
to really think about uh to make it to make it kind of work um so okay we've got we've got some form of character we've got some form of backgrounds
that we're working on um okay let's let's concentrate on the character what should the
character be should it be should it be some form of animal creature should it be a marmot
are we oversaturated in the marmot world um i don't know what's anyone's
initial thoughts feel free to jot a thought down below as well if you've got a thought about
we're kind of at the stage where there's characters or a character a marathon running running character
um of sorts what what should that character be um and bear in mind we want to try and keep it
simple so it's uh bob she'll be just posted down there see that's pretty cool isn't it that's like
a robotic kind of um uh marathon runner created with ai with a 222 vest like that already already i'm thinking 222 vest needs to be amongst them
i need a new i need a new piece of uh paper um yeah let's let's concentrate on the character
um i don't know throw some ideas around frog frog dog um uh i don't know a leaf remember can remember cheerleafs the uh uh the the cheerleaf
collection yeah they all had leaf heads um i don't know i don't know that's that's something
i haven't got in my head quite yet of what that character should be i can kind of see
i can kind of see the poses.
In fact, let's talk about that.
Let's go, let's go poses.
Do we want to have different poses
or do we want just one standardized character
with different traits?
Because that's obviously more work.
So I think, so poses. If you did poses poses you'd want probably one one running
one kind of crossing a finishing line crossing line you know with their hands up and maybe one more maybe one more one of them i don't know what do marathon runners do they run
they run they cross the finishing line uh maybe you could have one that's kind of like i don't know red red and puffy um and do you do you have this same character or do you make
kind of rather than the same character with different poses maybe you have kind of three
of the kind of the same image but the image is um you know different stages of the same image, but the image is, you know, different stages of the marathon where they're fresh at the start.
They're red and puffy or sweating, something like that.
I don't know. Sweating seems like a good trait. It could be.
I don't know. Thoughts. Fire some thoughts.
I don't know, thoughts
Fires some thoughts
I think the finish line
If you want to add something like the finish line
It could be just one of the background
So to make it just
Faster and easier
It could be just one pose
Like the one Bob Kerkey put on the comments
With the 2-2-2 on the chest
And just different traits
Like the one you listed
Yes I agree with the two to two on the chest and just different traits like the one you listed.
Yes. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think within the timescale, that's all we can probably do. Um,
and then what is that character? What's, um,
what within kind of the two, two, two spaces or the cheer law,
what should that character be?
Could it be a dick token?
Something
linked to that?
Or I'm not sure what Ice Labs'
star characters are.
I don't know what he's
best at doing.
Yeah, what's your
drawing style is quite cartoon like isn't it
ice lads yeah i i can do a humanoid i can do a robot i can do basically anything you throw at me
anything we can throw at him uh you know does it does it does it is it part of the animal kingdom is it more futuristic as a robot
um a bit like your pfp there or is it something from the ocean i don't know if that really ties
into what we're doing um or maybe it is more more kind of humanoid with a bit of a bit of a twist on it
so no that's something that we need to come back to i think i think we need to come back to that
and work out exactly what the character is um and maybe ai can help with that if we kind of
kind of throw a load of information into it uh and see what it kind of suggests um
kind of from a you know chuck into it which we're trying to create this
from you know this kind of background within the cheer ecosystem is that something that um
what you know give us some ideas um but okay okay but we're definitely settled on a marathon runner
uh of sorts we don't know what the character is uh we know we're gonna have
backgrounds that's an obvious one uh i think let's look at the traits then uh and work out how many traits you'd need across quite kind
of this small 2-2-2 collection let's have a look so if you had 222 pieces you'd want kind of like
you say you've got like um a common a common trait which numbers wise we can work on you've probably got a rare trait um and then you could probably
have you don't have to call them this can you but you can have like a super rare and an ultra rare
so super rare ultra rare so you've got kind of four four different um i guess trait categories and that's all that really is um nothing to do with
art but numbers you know you want x amount of commons x amount of rare x amount of super rare
x amount of ultra rare so across 222 pieces um say you had within backgrounds within what have we said we said kind of
headband water bottle trainers that's probably all you need I think and maybe
maybe maybe well the marathon runners have medals a winning medal that seems
like quite an easy trait to to design and draw what about some middle traits from the spaces
themselves like i don't know this like the spaces host phone or something or uh well i think you you could probably incorporate each of that into the
kind of things like a headband could have um honk on them or it could have you know ice on them or
uh or something to do with yourself edward or or certainly like um the medal if you had a medal it could have the
little image on there of someone's pfp maybe um you know or a representation of say edward's pfp
uh i don't know i think i think we can incorporate within the artwork more of the what's happening
within the spaces and the people that have been involved you know
obviously track we want to kind of have a track kind of trait amongst these so if you said
if you said there's so really you want one two three so you want um let's think it's common
rare super rare ultra rare because the more categories you have, the more artworks involved.
So if you keep it to four, you're only making four headbands, four water bottles, four medals or four pair of trainers.
You know, so from an art point of view, you've got like four, four, four, four and the character itself.
and the character itself um
so if you said let's do some maths let's do some maths
so looking at it now in fact let's open up let's open up um
let's open up gemini okay so yeah I'll just go there was the I'm just gonna
chuck this into AI and see what happens if I had 222 NFTs boys for rarity and and common rare
uh super rare and ultra rare
uh how many no no no no no. I want to break that down even further. How many pieces should I make of each? There we go. Let's see what it spits out. Okay.
to praise you up don't it so you got options options options options you've got like a classic
option balanced or even uh so if you imagine there's 220 back so in total 222 backgrounds
222 headbands 222 water bottles 222. So you could split it up.
So the classic 70-20, 8-2 split.
So the kind of common would be 70%, rare 20%, super rare 8%, and ultra rare 2%,
which would be 155, 44, 18, and 5.
45 44 18 and 5 or you go a more balanced approach where 133 common 56 rare super rare would be 22
and ultra rare 11 so it depends on how rare you want the kind of ultra rare ones to be
so if you if you looked at the kind of the common the classic way of doing it you'd have the common
pieces so you'd have within 222 pieces um you'd have obviously say say take for instance water
bottles you'd have 220 total water bottles 155 of them would be common 44 would be rare 18 would be
super rare and five would be ultra rare but what you've got to take into
consideration is actually putting those all together and i'm sure mo juice i've heard him
talk about this is how you put them together to make the overall rarity of the piece um
but we can we can think about that later so um is that is the kind of classic, classic, like common is 155 pieces and the ultra rare five pieces, is that too drastic?
Or do you think that's about right?
From a rarity standpoint.
It sounds about right.
There's so many ways with rarity i don't know what ice labs
uh if that sort of fits his style i guess but yeah it sounds right well i mean from ice labs
point of view if you have four brackets a common rare super rare and ultra rare just means you've got to make four different versions of each trait um
and i guess i guess backgrounds could be slightly different because because backgrounds i think are
more fun you can you can probably have 10 different backgrounds but from an illustrator point of view
making probably um four pieces of each is doable within the time frame i think i think once you've got the kind of
the main character right and you've got the the kind of main uh water bottle the main kind of um
headband then it's just a case of manipulating those to to make them more rarer um i don't know
what ice labs do you think do you think four of each trait is doable within the
time scale yeah i think four four is good four is good four is doable yeah cool okay so i think then
um i think that we can we can obviously work on the exact split of percentage wise when we when
we make them uh and that could be we can make that within
with such a small collection that can be really manipulated quite easily um by um obviously
within illustrator you have layers so you can even they can either be kind of passed on to somebody
to make them by hand or you can you can throw them into a generator that that does it for you
but i think with 222 pieces we can we can probably be more bespoke and um you know uh kind of uh
leave it less down to randomness and more by design you know we can design the rarity into it
um which i've probably got more time to be able to do that than sit behind um illustrator and play
with that so um but we'll get to that stage later on in the week is my thinking um so from a trait
point of view backgrounds check um so if we're going to make a character you know, um, whatever that character may be. Do you think just a headband,
a water bottle,
the trainers,
the trainers might be a bit more difficult to do.
I'm not sure.
And a medal.
Do you think that's enough traits across the collection?
Or do you think we want to add one more in there?
Bearing in mind,
if we add one more,
it's another four,
four kind of layers you'd have to work on.
Ice Labs.
So trainers, uh, water bottle medal and don't forget the vest the running vest oh yes so that would be that would be kind of
six traits in total with with edward maybe taking on the background so one two so you'd have a headband water bottle
trainers medal and vest so that would be four eight twelve sixteen twenty different kind of
traits you'd have to uh uh you'd have to kind of work on and create is that is that too much
do you reckon or do you reckon that's doable within the time frame that's definitely doable okay bearing in mind uh i mean we we've kind of got
seven days to probably get the artwork ready ready before then we spend kind of the eighth
day how many days we got left actually i'm not sure well we want we want obviously the
artwork's going to happen we want to spend a day kind of working on the metadata and the um
and the kind of law behind it and the wording within the kind of metadata um um and then you
want a kind of a a day to mess around with uploading the metadata to some form of ipfs probably our weave because i
use our weave and i think that's probably the better option um which i i'm quite happy to take
control of kind of the um you know putting things together from a um a technical point of view i
guess from the chia side of things because i can then uh well i guess the discussion goes on to do we do we use mint garden to mint them or should i
just mint them you know using cli um obviously there's no cost to that then so or do we kind
of support mint garden and use their tooling um i don't know what what's what's
the things they're thinking along those lines probably it's probably just as quick and easy
for me just to run it through a um cli and just mint them it's only 222 of them so
i think that's probably the better option but that's later on in the week um
option but that's later on in the week um okay we're getting somewhere yeah how long would it
take you to do that 222 by cli um i'll just set i'll just set a programmer you could do it via
bulk mint and it'd take about 10 minutes um but i'll probably do it nice slow mint um which like
which means you mint one probably every
every kind of other block maybe two to three minutes um which i which i kind of did with
with the mini marmots to start with when i minted the first 125 because it took like um it took like
i don't know 24 hours uh and i kind of liked it being on the on the on the um sort of the
the mint tab on mint garden that people could like kind of watch the mint one at a time um
so yeah i think i'd probably do that i'd set it off i've got like a program that i'd just i'd just
put all the information into um and then it would it would just slow mint them one at a time ready for the
final day where we where we well i guess if we're using mint garden for auctions then they're still
going to get a bit of a cut anyway so um yeah so it wouldn't wouldn't take long i think we'd need
we'd need to kind of allocate 24 hours before we put them up for auction so you want you want the artwork finished within
48 hours of the end which probably gives us six six to seven days to get the artwork done
and in the meantime while the artwork's being done you could then kind of work on the metadata side of
it alongside that as well um to make sure that you've got everything in place
so yeah i mean when you look at it i really need to look at the calendar let me look at
my calendar and work out exactly how many days we've got to play with so we'll let calendar calendar
unless anyone knows off the top of their head how many days we've got left of this
unless anyone knows off the top of their head how many days we've got left of this
I think it finishes on the Monday does it let's have a look what we are now we're on the 21st
so we've got one two three four five six seven and on the eighth day is the auction day so eighth
day is auctions so the seventh day would be minting the sixth day so the sixth day is where we want to be putting everything together so so kind of um
um i guess metadata slash metadata slash images and then rweave rweave is a simple tool to use you can just you can just upload them to our
weave so the fifth day which would be let me work out would be kind of where we
want the artwork to be almost finished which doesn't give you a lot of time at fourth day metadata
third day artwork still artwork so tomorrow would be
kind of more ideas around metadata and and wordings today's a day so that doesn't give us a lot of time when you
break it down like that it looks like you got today we're kind of brainstorming tomorrow is
kind of um a bit more brainstorming uh i don't know ice labs are you are you doing kind of more
more spaces uh on jitzy for kind of um drawing throughout the week
it's just two more spaces just tomorrow and uh the last day
okay okay okay well maybe maybe that doesn't i guess within those spaces you could kind of talk
about obviously you're going through the basics of how to how to use Illustrator.
But you could kind of veer off and say, well, this is what I've been working on as part of this space.
You know, this is how I've done this. This is how I've done that as kind of part of that as well.
So that would kind of work. But it does give us.
but it does give us so today ideas tomorrow again kind of more ideas but but going into the depths of
talking about um mainly kind of the law behind it some of the wording of the traits
then you've got kind of the metadata build the next day uh the fifth day would be so what we got what we have today sunday so
sunday today so monday more ideas tuesday kind of uh artwork and more metadata wednesday kind of
putting the metadata together fifth day thursday would be kind of finishing off the design of the metadata
and kind of the artwork the friday would be like a contingency where you want metadata and images
to be kind of finalized so we can put them together and get them up on our weave or or maybe multiple ipfs then the
seventh day which would be next saturday slash sunday would be kind of finishing off making
sure that there's no problems and minting and then the monday which is the 29th where it all finishes
we do the kind of auctions or maybe because we want the auctions to go over
a 24-hour period maybe we should the sunday should be auctions so this time in this time next week
the auctions go up which kind of puts us back a day but i think from an art point of view and and
the design work and kind of making the art we've probably got five six days max
to knock them out doable do you think ice labs
all good all good the plan is coming together there you go you've heard it here live this is
kind of uh kind of making it up as we go along but like this is for anybody kind of
listening back and i don't expect anyone to listen back to a three-hour space but um you know in the
notes after this i'll say maybe listen to the first hour and a half to kind of see the the
thought process of where we've gone from kind of nothing to like almost like a like a mini nft project here um you know we've
thought we've thought essentially about kind of what they're for you know what are the funds for
do we do we sell them um you know what happens with the what happens with the sales sale volume what happens with the royalties um we've gone from like talking about
um keeping it simple uh we haven't really gone into too much depth about how we link the traits
to um specific kind of areas of the tutu space but i think we should do that
um we've talked about sort of dids setting up like a kind of a royalty address where
the funds will go to kind of help next year where some of the funds are going to go to developers
and some to ice labs rarity which kind of come up with the idea of how how much rarity we want
within that kind of small collection um the different amount of traits you kind of need to have,
the time scale that we've got to work with,
and the amount of kind of bits of artwork
that we need to create to make it all happen.
So I think kind of the next step would be to,
I think we kind of need to dive deeper.
Obviously, we haven't really decided on what the character needs to be,
but we can probably dive into each of the traits
and then kind of work out what the traits,
or how the traits kind of, what they mean to the spaces.
So essentially, we know we're going to
have a common a rare a super rare and ultra rare trait or kind of um i guess bracket within each
of these things so if we said um so there's four of them so four eight twelve sixteen twenty so there's there's four separate
headbands four separate water bottles four sets of trainers four medals four vests and then i think
probably 10 backgrounds because the 10 backgrounds will will will um will help us to uh I guess, make rarity a bit more interesting as well.
So, there's 20 traits.
Four headbands, four, four, four, four headbands, four walk bottles, four trainers, four medals, four vests.
Which means we've got to come up with 20 kind of different ideas that link to the kind of 222 space so let me start another little bit of paper here
so on my bit of paper which i'll i'll kind of type up so i can throw this around but
if you had um head say headbands times four we want we want four ideas for headbands
four ideas for trainers four ideas for water bottles
um four ideas for medals four ideas for vests. Is that right?
One, two, three, four, five.
Okay.
How do we incorporate some of the stuff that's been...
Do we kind of go with...
There's an obvious one.
We want to have drap somewhere, whether it's the wording or, you know,
like a little kind of dragon face
I don't know
thoughts Edward off the top of your head
if I was to say
what are the things that
kind of incorporate the two two two space
what would you say
off the top of my head
Drac, Michael Taylor
Yak, Rigidity
maybe Josh Painter as well.
Josh, rigidity, Yak.
Okay, so that's kind of...
So in total, we want to come up with at least 20.
Yeah, we want to come up with 20 kind of ideas,
and then we can dive into exactly what they represent as a visual um
so 222 would be one wouldn't it 222 um maybe
we don't want to i don't think we can kind of say the words tear because we don't want to get into the realms where we start
infringing on ip rights and things uh maybe a maybe what a seedling with that it's like a
seedling type something to do with seedling um who's kind of been the the main guy so you i think edward deserves a place because you've
been holding it down so edward uh ice labs you need something in there because obviously it's
your creation your baby um let's have what else have we got there art with heart he's obviously been kind of involved and yourself of course monkey zoo
yeah i i never i never like i never like putting myself in things but i'll i'll put myself down
as a potential monkey zoo jenna jenna she's always around jenna and she's she's spitting out some great artwork actually
one of the things i was thinking about today is um you know to jenna the jenna just this is just
a little sidetrack but the jenna puts out like a lot of great art and i know she does it by hand
because we sort of see the process and um you know she she kind of has to go through oh she's
going to pop up she has to go through this kind of process every time you know she she kind of has to go through oh she's going to pop up she has to go
through this kind of process every time you do these sort of things so it's uh it's it's it's
not as easy as it looks you can't just you can't just create some stuff and spit it out and and
hope people buy it you have to like really think behind it all as well um to jenna how are you good morning i'm so sorry i'm only able to join now i was busy in the background i just finished
what i was doing but i was listening to you guys right through the whole process yeah yeah i was
just i was just singing your praises oh thank you um yeah i think that idea is fantastic um i just wanted to say like when you
think of um drac and you know i'll do art in the triple two you know the retro 1980s
microphone type of thing you know that that could be a trait that you could add you know to resemble drac you know because he always has these mark and ava show yes
yes yeah so like so when you say drac it could it could lead off to some sort of microphone
uh maybe maybe linked to like his tang talks maybe an orange microphone because it you know
it doesn't necessarily have to directly link to drack if
you said if you said the trait would be like um i don't know say say the medal around its chest
had like a little orange microphone on it um the trait would be called drack or tang talk or
something like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i like it i like it um right so so far we've got drac michael taylor josh
richard eyack 222 seedling edward ice labs art with heart mike zoo de jenna um what other kind
of areas of the two two split two uh what about um bullish no yeah bullish He's kind of been involved with creating the
I guess a lot of the behind the scenes stuff isn't he
Let's have a look
Let me go into some of the
Some of the message chats
And see what's been going on
Where's the 222 one
Here we go
You could put Bullish on one of the traits for the banner you know you can put the
smd if you know tb yeah yeah um who else has been hosting spaces because we've got there's
is there a list is there a list on the 222 website of of the hosts let's have a look speakers
you've heard steve is one of those speakers he's definitely been one um who else has been doing
things t money you got t money so yeah team money that's a
good one can't be a team money he follows me
there's a within that too yeah I think you're in the 222 chat on yes
isn't there a spreadsheet somewhere let's have a look
see if i can find the spreadsheet with people's names on
it might be way up the list though i wonder if i can find it
i can't see it i've gone so no it's gonna be way up near the start i don't know if my
see if i've gone so no it's gonna be way up near the start i don't know if my
um rigidity is on there uh steve steps on there
i guess uh i guess smertex mr foods is on there
so look it's gonna be way up on top if there is
um so it's gonna be way up on top if there is
getting close I'm getting close because I think we should probably try and make the traits even if visually they're not necessarily represented to the person they are or not necessarily
to the person at least the at least the metadata can kind of give them a nod is my thinking
let's see if i could go all the way back up here and find it
without without skipping to ah i can see some here we go there's some images
come on drac you must have put it somewhere oh here it is here it is here it is here's the dock
okay ah orange gooey do we need to put an orange gooey in there I suppose we
should do really gently I mean gooey oh I see Edward a nice lads to drop down fine um did you do any ones that are kind of
let's see
clyde wallace has got a couple of spots clyde
oh I just love to come back up there we go
oh i was love to come back up there we go
I was about to say
um oh illuminate has got a couple of spots as well let's let's get him mentioned
illuminate and oh utopes she was doing some as well isn't she towards the end oh and dsp digital spaceport
have i missed anyone off there oh grant and lucas the fomo show that was on there
have a look so kind of just going from the people that are hosting or been involved we've got
one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve fifty fifty fifty seventy
twenty twenty twenty twenty two there you go that's enough there to to kind of build some
traits around so um if i was to say a name you want to try and think of bearing in mind um you know these these
are kind of got to link to some form of you know if it's if it's say a water bottle that's quite
easy you have a standard water bottle and then just the kind of the design or the image on the
water bottle would change each time i think that's that's the easier way to do it. Do you IceLabs?
Yeah, for all bottles on the hand, on one hand, it could be cool.
Yeah, so kind of like...
You can change the colour of the lid of the water bottle as well.
color of the lid of the water bottle as well you know you can go orange yeah that's true that's true
that's true um yeah that's true so like um yeah but we can we can look at that so so if i said
drac first things that come into mind are like that the show he does so maybe a microphone
um if i was to say tea money what would what would kind of be your
first thoughts of of kind of uh i guess the snow no the snow symbol because you know that he's
he's studying at the moment to you know to get into the industry and he always speaks about and
that's the business that he wants to start the heating and cooling no symbol for the heating and cooling you know no yes snow symbol so what i'll do is like after
this or towards the end of this space i'll um maybe maybe when a few more of the americans
wake up and jump in i'll kind of write all this up and then send it to you ice
lads to to sort of mull over um so t money snow symbol right michael taylor what would we say
if we said michael taylor what would that kind of represent uh obviously dig node isn't it some sort
of dig maybe that's like uh i don't know the data layer
yeah maybe dig logo or um
the logo slash uh
i don't know let's come back uh josh just josh is obviously the go for me isn't it gotta be go for
me because that's doing that's doing good go for me what's the other one he's got seed snap
or seed snap uh and again you know from an art point of view these don't have to be exact they
can be anything pretty much sort of like it we can brainstorm
maybe a bit more tomorrow about the individual kind of what they should look like but um
the the metadata will do all the talking uh rigidity what's the one thing that comes into
your mind when we say rigidity it's got there's only one thing isn't there it's got to be sage
your mind when we say rigidity it's got there's only one thing isn't there it's got to be sage
i was gonna say i want it gotta be sage uh yak what about yak um i mean he's he's kind of
everywhere uh probably cheer list programmer something like that i don't know um you know if depending on where you put these things
you know because you've got to bear in mind that um the water bottle can be a could be anything
really i suppose um if i said two two two it probably just needs to be the numbers doesn't it two two two i think that that would work
uh seedling would probably just be the emoji seedling seedling emoji yeah
yeah um edward well we've got to be we've got to be kind here because he's in the room um maybe maybe maybe like uh something multi-colored like he's pre-pfp at the minute
uh maybe his pfp
ice labs well we'll leave ice labs to design his own one that's probably gonna i'm sure ice labs uh is
going to be some sort of super rare one that looks that's probably the best trait amongst
the whole lot we'll leave that for you uh art with heart what would first thing you'd say when you say he's just had a baby uh family baby you had puppies you had a new dog yeah puppies kind of a puppies baby okay that's
just just spitballing monkey zoo well i don't know what first thing you first thing you think of when you say monkey zoo
monkey let's put that down but degena what's the first thing we think of when we see degena
uh i see the first thing i think of is kind of colourful.
Colourful.
Because I had to think through some of these when I created the mini barbots. And the Jenna character was kind of based off the sort of colourful art.
So, you know, maybe there's a water bottle that's got different colours on it.
An art palette. i don't know
right bullish bullish first thing you say when you say bullish uh
um his famous name which i'm not going to say it. Yeah, so his main involvement has kind of been the website.
So website programmer, something like that.
And again, the art could be inspired by the words
or have nothing to do with it.
Mr. Steve Step, what would we say?
Probably the Week in Cheer, maybe?
I was about to say, like a news bullet.
Yeah, the Week in Cheer news in cheer slash news.
Foods.
Blimey, where do we start with foods?
A whining baby?
Can we put a whining baby or a cry baby?
I think to be kind, we could probably go for a honk
or a goose.
But I hear ya, I hear ya.
Orange gooey, blimey. where do we start with that one um orange gooey a megaphone he likes to
he likes yeah a megaphone because he loves to talk for hours you know he can speak himself for hours it's definitely an orange megaphone an orange megaphone
yeah i'm liking that already that's yeah uh clyde wallace probably not many people know clyde
wallace in here but i think probably uh clyde wallace what would i put for him maybe a brain because he has got some hell of a brain on him a brain computer
brain programmer brain something like that I don't know illuminate I don't know
illuminate very well what's what's people's if I remember rightly he's quite philosophical about stuff yeah and about energy and the universe
and yeah he's very into his psychedelics yes yeah psychedelic maybe a mushroom a mushroom
for him or something like that you know yeah I like it mushroom yes perfect um utopes now i know who that is i know who she is but i don't
really know very much about her at all but she's being she's getting involved somewhere so she
deserves a little trait somewhere utopes um isn't isn't utopes sort of of women in Web 3 involved with that type of thing?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, question mark that one.
Question mark that one.
Maybe women in Web 3.
Digital Spaceport.
Again, probably many people don't really know to digital spaceport, but he's probably more famous for
Looking after equipment like server racks and stuff like that. So, you know server racks or hard drives that type of thing
Drive and then the FOMO show which is grant and and Lucas so So again, that's kind of along the lines of news slash podcast, isn't it?
Podcast.
Okay.
Well, there we go.
That's just spitballing off the top of our heads.
There's one, three four five six seven
eight nine one two three four five six
there's 22 there we want 20 in total so let's uh let's just remove a couple that aren't maybe on the cutting edge
let's remove the seedling i think the seedling can just play a part anyway
maybe in the backgrounds um do do do god who do we this i don't feel like we can remove anybody
maybe
i don't think we can
i don't think we can right okay well we've got 21 kind of trait ideas um not necessarily so so when when kind of ice labs is
coming up with the designs obviously we want kind of four four of each so um you know again it
doesn't necessarily have to match up but like if you can if you can work it in so that um
match up but like if you can if you can work it in so that um what's what's easy to do here the
vests the vests are easy to do when it comes to kind of explaining something with words because
you can obviously have a number or word so i think maybe the vest should have the two two two trait trait i don't know um so if you said let's go through them t money like a snow a snow symbol
snow drop type thing uh where would that best be placed maybe um we're bearing in mind we've got
headbands trainers water bottle medals maybe a medal like a snowdrop medal yeah so let me put team money under that
category for now so drap with these kind of a microphone type thing maybe that
would work on that would probably work on a couple of things maybe on a water
bottle like an orange water bottle.
Again, ice labs, feel free to step in if you think there's, you know, if you're creating them, you've probably got some sort of idea of what's easier and harder to do.
I think for the creator, everything you listed is pretty easy to do.
I just think for the character, I think you should do a robot for the character.
Yeah.
Because I think I can add some effects to it. You know we're going to have different body types.
So for different body types, how many body types are you going to have?
Well, I don't know if we do.
I don't know if we do.
I mean, do we need more than one body type,
or do we kind of keep it the same body type and just swap up the traits?
Yeah, I mean, I can have the same body type,
but, like, if it's going to be a robot, so I can have the same body type but like uh if it's gonna be a robot so i can have
one base i'm sketching a robot right now so i can have some some uh glowing lines going over
like circuits for one the other one can have a different color and the same we can have a black
a gold a blue and uh for some real ones I can add some effects to it with Photoshop
I think yeah, I'm sketching one right now
I'll send you I'll send it over. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, I guess I guess really that could kind of be another trait couldn't it sort of body type
which doesn't necessarily have to a body type um which doesn't necessarily have to
link to anybody you know it's like different different colors again you probably only want
you know if you keep obviously the same design but but maybe just alter them slightly
like say different colors or different circuits or whatever um you'd put you'd still only want
four so you still only want like a common a rare super rare and ultra rare if that wouldn't work
um so if i said common rare super rare and ultra rare and then again it can sort of coincide with
with because that's all just the math side of it um yeah there we go so i'm provisionally putting be putting team money under kind of a medal,
putting Drak kind of under the water bottle kind of tray.
Michael Taylor, like a Dignode slash...
I mean, if you look at the Dignode logo,
that can pretty much go anywhere.
You could make a headband that kind of has the same colours as the logo or a pair of trainers, maybe.
And kind of... Because, because like things with the trainers you don't really you want to have the standard
trainer but maybe um sort of different colors that represent certain brands maybe so maybe we
put michael taylor under there um because we can look at the look at the kind of the colorings and make it the same as their logo
um josh as in go for me um where would he kind of sit what could you
or maybe maybe on a headband you just have kind of you know go for me across the headband
go for me across the headband maybe that's somewhere if i provisionally put josh under that
one rigidity and sage what do you think where would he kind of fit in um because you can
you can kind of represent sage without actually saying sage wallet
kind of represents sage without actually saying sage wallet um although the colors the colors for
sage are kind of just different different shades of green maybe maybe under
me i don't know today i don't know what's what's what if you were to create a sage trait
what would you think where would be where would be where would you head
i would say like maybe the robot could hold a money bag or like a green money bag
so well maybe maybe like like a real life wallets uh on the water bottle traits like a real life wallets
with the sage logo on it yes yes i like it yeah we'll put him under water bottle for now
um right yak and kind of cheer lisp so you know that works really well with the robot world
anyway because he's kind of he's kind of in his own little matrix so maybe maybe there's um you know a matrix looking trait that's kind of
linked to to yak and again that could be probably anything that could go across you could have a
a matrix looking well anything like a headband trainer water bottle medal vest um maybe maybe on the headband i don't know what
do you what do you think because the headband is quite quite a small trait would that visually
work when you're kind of looking at the matrix kind of kind of um imagery imagery maybe vest
maybe vest
I'll provisionally put a yak tray under
vest
right 222
across
the headband
like you've got the go for me
for Josh headband maybe a
222 headband
that kind of works i think um the edward pfp
maybe that works with the trainers um sort of just using the pfp colors that edward's got
on a pair of trainers if the trainer kind of design is um you know like little sections
then essentially you're just picking up different colours, aren't you,
and creating different coloured trainers to match things.
So maybe I'll put Edward under trainers for now.
Ice Labs, I'll leave that.
In fact, what would you want, Ice Labs?
You're the artist.
Where would you want to sit?
Do you want a medal? Do you want to be're the artist. Where would you want to sit? Do you want a medal?
Do you want to be a headband?
Where do you want to sit?
I just want to sit.
Maybe I would do a medal with just the ice loco on it.
Yeah, nothing crazy.
Yeah, gotcha.
Right.
Under medal.
Art with heart.
So we kind of thought puppy baby um obviously he's always
talking as well uh or maybe just like a heart maybe the vest a vest could have a heart on it
or a water bottle with a heart on it i think they're or even a medal so let's go for
or even a medal so let's go for let's go for maybe a vest let's put art with the
best for now me monkey zoo what would I where would I like to sit okay anything
that would work maybe maybe a little monkey either on the middle or a water
bottle let me put me under water bottle for now monkey zoo water bottle uh
de jenna where should we put de jenna what did we say kind of colorful art
de jenna what did we say kind of colorful art
where would that sit let's have a look where do you fancy de jenna do you want
to be a headband pair of trainers water bottle medal or
vest i'll go with edward take me down to the
train with the trainers because yeah colorful oh who's it kids uh social media influencer
uh doesn't really look like someone i want on stage sorry dude i don't know if you're
good or bad but uh looking at your profile doesn't look like the person.
Let me have a look.
Yeah.
I don't need to be socially influenced, I'm afraid.
Right, okay, carry it on.
Bullish.
Bullish as a kind of, the person who's built the website and the programmer.
Where would he sit amongst this lot maybe a medal for bullish i don't know a picture of a bull or i don't know
because he's pretty cool maybe a pair of shades that's what i think of when i think of uh of
bullish maybe shades like a little a little medal with a pair of pair of dark shades
on that looks that sounds pretty cool uh steve step the week in chia news um have a look
depth uh maybe let's have a look maybe a headband with uh initials twic on it
that we can cheer let's put steve step under there
oh we've got two requests coming in founder of banksy society let's have a look oh send it pump
yeah no no chance dude sorry we're not up here promoting your stuff so denied uh right okay
foods uh what did we say that was to jenna so he was gonna someone
What did we say that was to Jenna?
Someone
A whining baby
I think we'll be kind
We kind of would go with the hunky goose
Maybe that could be on a kind of water bottle I think
Or a medal with a little goose face on it
Let's put foods on there
Foods Orange gooey
let's go where do we want a gooey maybe a vest what oh we said we said kind of megaphone where
we megaphone we said a megaphone maybe on the vest it can have like a little circle with a
with a kind of megaphone in it on the vest and let's put let's put in there for now we can always
move these can't we so good uh clyde as in the big brain guys let's have a look probably one
maybe the maybe there's like um i don't know maybe a water bottle with a with a big brain on it or
something i don't know i'll put him there for the time being glide uh illuminate mushroom
i mean that that that screams out metal to me
yeah let's better illuminate there
uh utopes again it's women in web three maybe maybe across a headband um
isn't there a kind of a like a hyphenation of women in web three
wiw3 or something maybe across a headband
few topes maybe uh digital space port
have a look like a server rack type thing that's a hard one the fomo one the fomo show could definitely be a pair of trainers because they've got like their own logo but let me put fomo on there
there we go we've kind of got we've kind of got a structure there in place now where we've got
i think we're i don't want to do it but i think we're, I don't want to do it, but I think we're going to have to lose DSP,
digital space, or, oh, we've got some backgrounds, actually.
The backgrounds could be named after people as well.
So let me put DSP as a background name, maybe.
Maybe I'll give Edward some inspirations for prompts.
Have a look there we go fomo under there so just to break that down a bit then so under headbands we've got kind of josh's go for me the two two two i don't know marathon representation steve tep steps the week in cheer
and the utopes kind of women women in web three under headbands under trainers we've got kind of
michael taylor's dignode logo edwards pfp kind of colors de jenna's kind of artwork colors and the fomo logo colors
under water bottles we've got um we've got drac i guess i guess that's kind of side but microphone
rigidities kind of sage wallet uh monkey zoo i don't know a little picture of monkey and clyde's kind of big brain
under medals we've got team money what did we say for team money i can't remember our snow symbol
uh ice labs under there bullish i've got foods and i've got illuminate but we need to narrow
that down a bit more i think maybe i don't know we'll think about that one and then the vests
well i've got two two two down twice let's swap out there we go if i put illuminate on a vest
he can have a mushroom on his uh on his vest maybe my vision for the vest that i don't know about um about anyone else is kind of the um
uh like a a standard vest that you can just give different colors and and like a circle in the
middle that kind of has a different different logo in each one yeah so medals i've got tea money
ice labs bullish is kind of shades and foods crying not
crying and then vests illuminate like a mushroom yak I come with what he said
about yak
uh kind of cheer lisp type thing
let me remove this dude and art with heart maybe a heart on the logo and then orange gooey
there we go we're kind of getting somewhere now we're kind of getting somewhere let's have a look
okay okay okay okay, okay.
Right, anything else we need to think of at this stage?
I mean, DeGener, when you kind of, you know, work on your artwork,
I presume, just to take a break from what we're doing,
but I presume, and you Ice Labs, I mean,
is there a similar process you go through when you kind of sort of come up with come up with an idea and then or do you kind of start with the artwork side of
it and then the ideas spiral from that i think i'm kind of interested how you guys like work when you
do these things yeah i just i just mainly start with the base character. I sketch out my base character and trace it out.
So after I have the base character ready,
that's when I start thinking of the traits.
I put a list of the traits I'm going to do,
and I just do the traits one by one.
What about yourself, Dijana?
I'm going to agree with Ars Labs.
It always starts with the base character and what message you're trying to send
with that base character. And then the rest that kind of come in,
sometimes you end up thinking of more traits as you go along, you know,
more looks to it and you keep adding on to it, you know?
So yeah, definitely start with the base character and then the rest comes because
you could have different shapes of different things, you know,
but you can only determine that after you've done the base character.
Like, how is the real man going to hold the water bottle?
You know what I mean?
Will the army up? Will the army down?
You know, because you don't want to cover the vest.
You know, so if his army's up in front of him holding the water bottle, would he be covering the vest?
Because on the vest, we're going to be putting some symbols.
Would he be holding it up, you know?
So those are the things that you'll think of as you're doing the base character.
And then, you know, from there, then you bring on the other traits.
Am I ragging can you hear monkeys yeah i hear you fine hang on hang on i forgot to uh i forgot to
uh unpause unmute can you hear me now yeah can you know okay yeah um yeah i was saying something
similar along the lines of um like, with Monkey Zoo,
the reason why, there's lots of reasons why they're really, really simple characters,
and one of them is because when you start being able to manipulate things,
like, you will be able to in the Fusion Zoo, you can kind of, like, resize, flip things around,
so you have to make sure the traits are really simple as well
so people can put them in places and kind of work on it from there.
Edward, you're back on the stage, dude.
How's it going?
Have you been taking a limb?
Good, just making some work on the backgrounds here.
I've got my ultra-rare, number one of one.
I'm proud of that one.
And then I'm onto number two and three.
So yeah, background lighthouse is going well.
Well, I guess then, probably at this stage right now,
do you know what size they're creating?
When you're working with the AI,
do you give it a prompt to say it needs to be,
I don't know, I mean, I guess from Ice Labs, if you're designing it, what design size would you go?
Like a square, 1,000 by 1,000 pixels, higher, lower?
Yeah, I do 10,000 by 10,000 to make it more quality.
It's a square, definitely a square.
Would you say 10 thousand by ten thousand
yeah ten thousand by ten thousand so yeah edward when you're when you're putting in your prompts
you kind of want to go for that or ask it to make something ten thousand by ten thousand so that that when um was that sorry monkey was that 10 000 by 10 000 pixels yes yeah therefore um you
can kind of make one you could you could probably mock one up right now um doesn't necessarily have
to be one of the final products ask it to make it 10 000 by 10 000 post it down below. Ice Labs could then grab that and just kind of look at it
and see if that works.
Because obviously AI does different things.
What do you think, Ice Labs?
Yeah, I think the best thing to do,
I'm going to finish working
on the base character today.
So I can send it to you, Edward,
so you can use it as a reference
for the AI.
It doesn't go out of place with the character.
There we go.
Sorry, I missed some of that. I was looking at a comment.
Yeah, I said I'm going to finish with the base character today then i'm gonna send it
over to edward you can use it as a reference for the ai so that the background matches with the
base character yes yes perfect yeah so so i think edward right now you probably want to concentrate
on like uh even the designs that you create now that you're happy with,
you can then ask it to, you know, kind of say, well, this is, if Ice Lab sends you the kind of the base character,
you can then say to AI, you know, this background needs to be big enough to fit this in with x amount of space around it because
we're not going to put anything else within that image so it kind of needs to have a
you know so it looks good inside that square and I think when you when you designing these things
in mind you kind of think about will people use this as a pfp
um how does that fit in where do i need to put that do i need to put that in like
um right in the center you know how much of the space within this this square nft does it need
to be to uh to kind of i guess uh make it look good so yeah but yeah even if you if even if you can design
something a day edward then then you'll um then i guess you'll you'll go to sleep and you'll wake
up a nice lab should maybe have some kind of um base character for you to to play around with and
play with ai and make sure it fits and then essentially what we'll
do afterwards is we'll have we'll have layers so your background layer will be one layer
and within kind of photoshop or illustrator or whatever um we can use that as kind of the base
the base kind of layer that everything is built on top of if that makes sense so
yeah so what have you got so far edward what's your what's your kind of thinking that everything is built on top of, if that makes sense. So, yeah.
So what have you got so far, Edward?
What's your kind of thinking?
The frame that jumps straight into my mind is the,
I guess you'd say it's the thumbnail,
but it's the thumbnail of the October the 11th, 2024.
I called it Powerful Speech from Michael Taylor,
featuring Michael Taylor talking, and then your space, and the speakers, Monkeys Your Rigidity, Physical Wiz, mTaylor.xch,
Josh Painter, Yakito, Edward as a listener. I was playing it
back. Yeah, I think that thumbnail, I think that's the top moment in
space's history. So that thumbnail is the ultra-rare one-on-one, that there's
only one ever, and there's only one ever and
it's this one okay okay so i think um i think if you i mean if you can create i mean the idea is
that we maybe have 10 10 backgrounds spread across the the kind of collection in total um so if you created 20 or you know 15 to 20 then we can kind of as a
consensus like look at them all together whether it's whether we put it on a link somewhere we can
all look at them uh and then we can kind of narrow it down and get opinions on on you know
where they should sit uh i think that would work quite well i think that would work
really well uh oh i see drac's awake good morning drac i don't know what time it is for drac over
there must be very early i don't 11 o'clock uh it's probably about seven is it six seven
oh i don't know can't remember can't remember something like that anyway um but yeah just to kind of recap then the whole the whole space so far uh we've been going for
like two two hours now and uh we've gone from kind of conception of idea and there's traction the space you can you can listen in we've gone
from um where are we where were we kind of what we're doing it for uh what we're doing it for
are we going to sell it are we going to give it away um how are we going to get rid of these
things uh so we've we've kind of decided it's going to be based around the 222
sort of marathon space uh and we're going to do them via auctions via mint garden
um we're going to do 50 of the sales volume we're going to go to the developers within the
community again we'll work on that to sort of spread that out so that, you know, maybe 10 people get a little fraction of it.
50% are going to go into Ice Labs because he's going to do a lot of the work.
And the royalties are going to be set to maybe setting up like a two-two hour wallet address to kind of maybe put some funds in for next year's marathon space if there's going
to be one um we decided on the kind of theme uh to keep it simple but still link it into kind of
the 222 hour i'm gonna guess ethos uh and ethos being kind of the speakers and some of the
conversations so um the idea is that the character is going to be a robotic
kind of marathon runner type thing uh the traits that are going to be linked to kind of the space
hosts and kind of the ethos are going to be kind of war what do we say water bottles uh trainers
headbands medals and vests so uh there's going to be kind of a rarity to the collection.
Different types of body type, like a common rare, super rare,
and ultra rare body types.
We've kind of narrowed down, like, the traits into different areas.
So we worked out that the traits were kind of like space hosts
like so t-money we sort of thought about the snow symbol drac we thought of like a microphone
michael taylor dig nodes josh like go for me uh rigidity sage and so on and so on and then we've
broken those down into where they're going to live so for instance a head the
headband is going to kind of have a josh trait a 222 space uh trait uh a steve step kind of
this week in cheers um uh i guess trait uh and utopes who's coming up later in the week kind of maybe we need to
finalize that but maybe a sort of women in web 3 type trait um trainers we've we've kind of
narrowed it down to maybe michael taylor taylor dignode colored trainer edwards pfp colored
trainer de jenna kind of art palette trainer, and the FOMO logo kind of colors trainer.
Water bottles, we're going to have the Drak kind of microphone,
maybe an orange microphone kind of water bottle,
a rigidity sage water bottle, a monkey zoo kind of,
I don't know, a little monkey water bottle,
bottle a clyde wallace big brained water bottle uh the medals um maybe like a uh what do we say
a Clyde Wallace big-brained water bottle.
the tea money kind of snow medal ice labs is going to make his own little uh medal a bullish
kind of pair of i don't know dark shades cool medal uh and a foods kind of goose honk medal
and then the vest traits we're gonna have like illuminate
uh maybe a mushroomy style vest yak's gonna have some sort of matrix type vest art with heart
maybe a heart inspired vest uh an orange gooey we're gonna have maybe some sort of megaphone
type trait um and we've also kind of kind of looked at within a total collection number of 222
and worked out roughly how many common traits we need per, I guess, you know, band,
how many kind of rarer, how many super rarer and how many ultra rarers.
And that's where we've kind of got to today and ice labs
is going to take on the responsibility of kind of the artwork edward's going to kind of take on the
responsibility of the backgrounds um i'm going to take on the responsibility of kind of like
hosting this and putting together kind of the metadata and the minting side of it um to jenna do you want to get involved
anywhere and i mean do you want to help out with some artwork yeah tell me what do you need well
there we go okay i guess between ice labs and to jenna um that would that would kind of help the
um the amount of work uh i think i think what needs to happen first is ice lads probably needs
to design the character um and then maybe between yourselves work out kind of what the traits would
be and how they would look and then um just i guess just assist with some of the some of the
some of the trait designing really
would be would be helpful of two minds are better than one i suppose or three minds maybe we maybe
we start up a little um um i don't know yeah another twitter chat uh between the say four of
us or if anyone else wants to get involved inside there to kind of throw some um some ideas around in there uh that might be a good
idea to see see what we can do but i think we kind of looked at the time scale as well
because we want to try and complete this all within the time scale of these the 222 hour
chia blockchain marathon spaces so uh today is kind of this working out stuff
tomorrow again is more in-depth into the artwork so uh we'll probably start looking at the trait
side of things more in depth and come up with more in-depth ideas of of designs uh
then we've got the where are we up to now let me just look on my date so we're on the
21st so 22nd is tomorrow and that's kind of wrapping up the ideas
23rd is more of the artwork 24th kind of metadata working out uh 25th is going to be
um starting to put metadata and images together maybe get them um uploaded to our weave
26th um is when we want to really be at the stage where we can say, right, let's mint these.
Then the 27th and 28th, we want to then start maybe popping them up onto
or finish off minting and getting them up for sale via Mintgarden auctions.
That's the plan.
All within two hours, we've kind of created uh idea to impact so that's that's not bad going i think
for for uh for a first couple of hours so but i don't know any any other kind of thoughts because
uh i'm kind of i'm kind of burnt out by this idea already for today i need to i need to talk about
something else you've made it you've made a lot of progress
monkeys you've pretty much almost finished the project conceptually so pretty impressive um
yeah if i can have a have a cigar as they say and that's a guy i might go grab a can of drink and uh
uh and sit back and we can we can we can have a chat about something else for 45 minutes before T-Money pops up on the space.
Yeah, well, yeah, great stuff.
And iSabs is going to get paid from this 50%.
I think we've agreed that.
I'm not sure.
Maybe it still needs to be decided, but that's awesome.
It will pay an artist at least 50%.
So with the auctions, that could be a good little payday.
So that's awesome.
But yeah, DeGener, Ice Lab.
So what do you think about
the last couple of hours?
Yeah, I'm going to go grab a drink.
I'll leave you to Edward,
if you could hold the thought
for a couple of minutes.
Yeah, of course.
I'd love to get DeGener and Ice Lab's
thoughts of the project so far.
I don't know who would like to go first.
Well, you know, in the back channels on the chat the other day,
Monkizy was talking and he was like, you know,
he wanted to take somebody through the process, you know,
speak to people on what was the process, you know,
of making NFT collections.
And I said to him, well, why don't we take them
through the full process?
You know, why don't we create a full collection you know live you know and people can actually understand from
the beginning to end what it takes and yeah so you like that's how we are here you know I would
have loved to have joined from the beginning but I couldn't earlier this morning and so I only joined
later on but I was listening through the whole process so I'm all for it I'm all for it. I'm all for helping out.
It is not hard.
I will be honest.
It is not hard, but it takes a lot of time.
People have only just listened now for two hours in terms of ideas coming together, you know.
So, yeah, and the ideas don't always come out perfect the first time around because in the back end, a lot of things are going to be scratched from moving forward, redone,
you know, and until we get to the perfect look that we have.
But it's going to be fun.
It's teamwork and it's just going to show that together we can not only have a triple two space, but together we can actually do a whole full collection,
you know, putting all different artists together, you know,
different styles, different ideas, different collection, you know, putting all different artists together, you know, different
styles, different ideas, different techniques, you know, different back-end things of doing things
from the minting process as well, you know, which way we're going to go mint this, you know. So
if people tune in, they'll enjoy the process and see that there's many opportunities and
styles of doing things. That's my thought.
That's a bit beautiful. I think most of the work is already done. The next thing is just
for us to put in the work. I think we made a lot of water i've got a i've got an orange uh sugar-free tango
no apple apple sugar-free tango on my desk
i'll tell you what it's uh it's been good fun it's been good fun and um um i know it's a three
hour space is something that people aren't going to listen back to but
um it's kind of like um like uh it just kind of highlights the progress that um that people go
through to to come up with an idea and to to create an nft project that's the that's the idea
behind this today is to um highlight that and and i'm sure many people do it different ways but
essentially when you're when you're creating an nft project you you have to kind of think much
deeper than than maybe just um you know just coming up with the idea of an image you know
you need to you need to think about all the other aspects of it um and while tracks down there i
think he's best for me to say that you can't come up which is which is fine um let me just have a quick check there you go yeah a few things done
but yeah um i guess one of the questions we've got for drac uh which i'll pin him a message about
anyway was um you know should we should we create a uh a kind of two two two hour did or do we want to call it something different um you know next year
it might not be two two two hours it might be 300 hours or maybe we maybe we make a cheer marathon
or cheer space marathon did um yeah i don't know there's kind of all these things, these add-on bits that you kind of have to think about
when you're doing this.
And I think Cheers, you know,
the process really isn't much different across the chains.
You know, when you're looking at this,
you've still got to work out all these things.
Even these big projects, you know,
Pudgy penguins and um
um sort of the d gods of the worlds they kind of had to do the same thing they had to come up with
an idea they had to kind of work out you know the traits and how the kind of the rarity side
of things would work and um you know what we haven't really talked about and what you could
go into more depth about
you know when i when i was certainly thinking about the monkey shoe project is
you know do you do you take it a step further do you do you add some sort of gamification what's
the what's the reason behind the project um and so so you know with the, say, Mini Marmots, for instance, the idea was there that I wanted to sort of celebrate the NFT1 launch, you know, three years of that.
And I wanted to make sure as much of the community pieces so that i could play around with um with yak and
michael taylor's um sort of staking puzzles um you know there's kind of all those thoughts in
the back of my mind when i was doing that yeah yeah jack tracks just replied yeah leave the
222 out in case it changes maybe maybe an annual thing so
you never know like edward said earlier maybe this is something that we do every year under the same
did you know this you know what do we you know what do we call this collection um you know is
it going to be the kind of uh 2025 chia space marathon collection that doesn't really have a good ring about it but
i guess that will come that will come as the artwork progresses um i think you should probably
have a reference to to the space in here um yeah you know who you should ask bradley art with art
about that he's great at naming stuff as drack pointed out earlier yes yeah we'll get art involved but what i'll do is um kind of after this space finishes or
towards the end of this i'll i'll i'll do a little thread underneath um kind of talking
about what we've gone through what we've done what we've achieved. And take it from there.
I see Bob Shelby's just made another little AI type
robot character with a headband, trainers, water bottle,
little vest, that's pretty cool.
Number one.
Just as an idea idea you can pencil down and scratch it out later because
we are talking marathon and we're
talking runners you know
but we don't know whether
next year we're going to have triple two
or maybe three three three
you can always just you know just
keep it simple and call it marathon runners
you know and each year there simple and call it marathon runners, you know.
And each year there's a new set of marathon runners, you know, that are part of the marathon.
Yeah.
It keeps it very open, you know.
Yes.
Yeah, I love it.
That's a good idea.
year you could have um yeah yeah exactly that and then and then kind of this time next year or or
You could have, yeah, yeah, exactly that.
when it happens again you can have the you know the 2026 marathon runners or yeah space runner
space runners there we go let's space runners there we go now we've got a 2025 space runners collection 2026 space runners collection exactly that um and then and
then you know what you've got to think about as well is um because obviously i've loved doing
doing a lot of work and degena's going to be doing the work edward's going um you know where does that ip live uh from a from a um a sort of not i
don't want to jump into the world of legal stuff but um you know if it's minted under a certain did
which will kind of create as a as a group um you know who has access to that ip um what about if it becomes super super successful and
becomes the next big cartoon on cartoon network you know who fights over that so you've got to
kind of think about some of that stuff as well i i know it's uh unlikely but um you know it's it's
one of those things where um you have to think about who who kind of has access to the
wallet where the funds are you know is it is it fair that just just me you know who mince them
is in control of that um you know when we create a kind of a multi-sig wallet where the royalties go
to um you know who has access to that multi-sig? Who are the people that are kind of responsible for it?
You know, there's other things to think about as well.
So, but anyway.
Monkey, one idea just to throw out there,
and this is an idea that Gerald Neal gave me a while ago,
and I've never used it, but it's worth throwing out there.
So always an option is to just make public the keys to a wallet.
For example, if you did have a multi-sig and the royalties went in there,
you could just let the public have it, and it's whoever gets it first.
It's a way of taking the pressure off having to do something with the royalties,
but it might not be to everyone's taste.
That's an out there suggestion, one isn't it like when one sale goes through and there's a 0.001 xeh pop in there the first
person gets there grabs it that's a good place to sell nfts you know because people would go there naturally so you can pretend yeah you can call it
the the wild west wallet where about about about a thousand people are logged into it the first
person to withdraw those funds gets them love it the wild west wallet there's probably something
in that you know there's probably something in that uh i don't know they could be games or i don't know
but yeah there we go i think i think that we've got half an hour left before t money
um kicks off his space but um uh let's let's kind of change the subject slightly, I think we've hit a lot
of that today and we've got a really good
start to it all
has anyone else been following Lurkey?
I'm a big
fan of what they're doing
I think it's
going to be a big
thing, as long as spaces
continue to carry
on as well, I'm really hoping elon musk
doesn't get rid of spaces but um are you guys signed up to lurky at all i have not no have
you been not have you followed any of it i have but i've been so tied up with my art and our art
that I can't get involved in everything you guys get involved in.
It's like there's way too much.
So I stick to the basics.
Otherwise, I'm going to get lost.
You know, you have too many fingers in too many pies,
and then it's like you're being a jack-of-all-trades
and myself.
So I let the space people, people you know that do host spaces
where we focus on those things that's not one of my forte i hear you so um you you're um you've
just released a project as well i mean we've got half an hour give us give us an insight i tell
you what talk us through like the process for that one, because that's like, it's sort of like a Miladies type looking collection.
Give us the kind of background and process you went through with that one.
You would think it's a Miladies, but it's actually not.
If you look at the figurines itself it's actually a um japanese doll and
it's not the female lady's ears and things like that so it's a very old japanese doll which i've
recreated my my version of it and then i brought in the way the mladies do the traits you know but
the actual main character is the Japanese doll.
That is a collector doll in Japan known as the Emoto doll.
So, and you'll find that other, there's other artists that have done Komotos and things
like that, but it's actually a Japanese character.
My version of it, you know, I'm obsessed with shading, so it had to have the
right shading in terms of the character, but it was one of my toughest collections to do
because then I had to bring the untidy art to it. So, yeah, that was the hard part, you know,
where I have to bring in things that don't look tidy, you know, and then the backgrounds,
if you go and look deeply into the backgrounds,
there's actually a lot beyond the backgrounds.
For example, one of them is a Mozart music sheet.
You have to go look at it and read the traits
and you will see where some of the backgrounds come from.
And, yeah, one of the traits that I thought of,
which I don't know how it would
be accepted because, you know, people always
say that crypto Twitter is so
toxic and toxic, was
to bring in the gas mask, you know
it's like with toxicity, so if you're going to
come into crypto Twitter, make sure you
got a gas mask on, and it was one of the most
loved traits, it just, people
just scooped those over the crown and over
the tiara.
And I'm like, wow, the gas mask went faster than I expected.
So yeah, I had fun with it. And that's the one I was like, I couldn't stop staring at it because it was so different from anything else that I usually do. And I was like, I
don't know if I want to put it out there, because I like it, others may not.
But yeah, the first one was a drop which went
to the goat pepe holders and the um was it our holders and then the second one was a different
one which had different traits and different backgrounds and that's what went up um on on
mint and so and every day now there's a few more left,
and every day now I burn one
to bring down the circulating supply of them.
There was only 100 that I started off with,
and now I'm down to 94.
Later on today I'm going to pick one for burn.
And once it's done, then something will happen,
which I don't know.
It's going to happen.
You know, with me, I never tell things ahead of time.
So, because I don't like the mint to be dependent on what you think is going to happen
or what I said is going to be.
You buy it because you like it and you want to buy it.
You don't buy my art because I said I'm going to do something.
That's so wrong for me.
That's the wrong version of it.
You know, so you buy it because you've got some faith that something will happen.
If you don't have faith in it, then don't buy it. You you know but i'm not going to say this is going to happen at the
end of the of the mint ads and that's why you're buying it no that that doesn't gel well so that's
why i've never let out what's going to happen on the job and that's it and i'm just busy with two
one-on-ones i'm going to be gifting out. They'll be going on today.
Actually, while you were busy speaking, I was doing some finishing touches.
I've reached out to some of the ladies in crypto,
and two people responded back to me.
They needed to send me a photo of themselves without showing me their face,
and I would give them a three one-on-one.
And two ladies reached out, and you will see my version of them.
Let's go and come out.
I hope they like it, but it's my version of them from the photo that they've seen.
That's cool.
Yeah, that's cool.
Like, looking through the collection, I've just pinned it to the top as well.
The eyes are amazing they're like looking just when you look on on on mint garden i mean you can
see i mean the eyes are simply amazing uh and the kind of the whole design i think it's i think it's
really neat and then yeah i got a couple sent out to me for free which were which were really kind of you
as well so um but yeah you can kind of see the traits obviously i like the banana trait because
uh you know i'm a monkey but but yeah they are really cool um yeah so kind of pinned at the top
there uh let me just go through there so like i, check out DeGeneres' latest project because they're really cool.
And there's not many up for sale.
Did I see somewhere that you guys or you were like…
There's two types.
There's Chiladi, which was the free drop.
That one's got a floor 4.2 XCH as the free drop.
And then you've got Chiladi Friends.
That's the…
They started off with 100 supplies.
That's the one. Yes
Yeah That's been done my on my profile. You'll see two lady friends
That's got the slight twist to it. Yeah, I love it. I love the gas mask as well
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I don't know how I kind of missed this one. I don't know how I kind of missed it. Are they still up for sale?
Are they not? There's a few there's a few left there. Oh, I don't think I can't see any for sale on mint garden
Maybe they're all gone. Oh
But anyway, the chelady friends if you look at my pin post on my profile it will take you on chelady friends
Cool Is it all gone? Are you kidding me? You look at my pin post on my profile, it will take you on Chilady, friends. Cool.
Is it all gone?
Are you kidding me?
Well, I can't see any for sale on Mintgarden.
Somebody scooped them all six hours ago.
I didn't even notice.
I only saw it now.
There you go.
Oh, my word.
Six, seven hours ago, someone scooped a whole lot of them.
They are now literally priceless.
You can't buy them.
I didn't even know that.
You know, I was going to go and burn one today and there's none left.
Oh, excellent.
There you go.
Oh, okay.
Well, seeing that the R minted out and I didn't know, I might as well just drop what the alpha is.
So...
And we'll drop the alpha here.
Okay? So,
a percentage,
a percentage of that
mint is going to be going out
back to the community
hall. So, whoever minted
out, cheerladies, we're going to start
doing a draw now every day, and we're going to give cheer back. So, you thought you minted out cheer ladies we're going to start doing a draw now every day and we're
going to give cheer back so you thought you minted out cheer lady because you know you
you know you were supporting me and you know usually i give out to tokens you know i support
the wizard i support bepe you know but this time around i'm going to do it different i'm going to
be giving money back to people that actually supported me. So we're going to be doing draws of like 3xCH, 5xCH, and things
like that, keep the action going, and give money back to them. And they, even if they
minted one, you know, they could just win 5xCH now, they could take that and go buy
other NFTs, or take that and go and trade and buy more CAT tokens, whatever they want
to spend it on. So that was my game beyond it,
was to give back to the people that supported me.
So that's what we all do.
Wow, excellent.
I think that's the key for this as well.
You know, people like making art,
and if you can give back a bit as well,
then you're on to a winner, aren't you?
Yeah, well done. That's why i didn't want to tell people you know that's why i didn't want to tell people what was going to happen at the end because i don't want you to mint based on
the fact that i mean oh i might wouldn't you know let me just take by by ticket you know i might
win 5xh back not you know you might win 5xh because you support it you know yeah yeah exactly i think um yeah the um i've done that quite a few times where
um i've basically put on the timeline to do something uh and and kind of behind the scenes
the people that have done it uh are kind of rewarded you know um because you don't want
to put it out on there on the timeline that you're going to give away
you know 10xh or 20xh to to do this um because you just get a load of people that aren't really
interested and not really supporting you playing the game don't you um whereas really you want the
people that are are right behind you and been been working you know or supporting you to to
reap the rewards so uh
yeah well done well done on the sellout that's pretty cool well thank you thanks for the surprise
i didn't know i honestly didn't know it's uh thanks for the surprise excellent that's excellent um
let me have a look well what if we can make it two in two weeks if uh uh this collection sells
out that'll be 100 yes there we go uh yeah i mean um i guess we'll know more as we progress
through the week with this kind of um uh collection what did we what's the suggestion
you made there did you know i didn't write it down what was it uh marathon runners or something yeah the idea was marathon runners i mean you said
space runners ah space runners i think that works space runners yes i like that i like that as a
collection title then you could have uh maybe you could call the did space runners um and maybe yeah maybe you could have the did
space runners um that kind of um each year creates a kind of collection of x amount and
each year the funds slash royalties maybe go to different places and that's kind of what we do within the monkey zoo
kind of ecosystem we do like um that yearly kind of christmas uh 12 days of christmas kind of
fundraising thing uh that we kind of pick different areas of either the community or
the charity to kind of send some funds to so um yeah that's cool space runners are liking it already
um i just i just pinned up the sketch i'm doing uh check it out give me a
love it yes i can see it there now yeah like the robot head uh yeah you can get you can get that obviously the background works
with anything um obviously you can put a pair of trainers on there kind of be holding a water
bottle maybe in that trailing arm the water bottles there the bandana would work the vest
kind of fits on the body and the medal obviously can hang around ah the only thing the only thing that i was thinking
there is um if you've got the vest and a medal trait obviously we want we want we want probably
do we want a tray each tray on every single kind of um nft
or if that does that make sense that's probably something we need to talk about quite
early on do we want each each nft to have a headband trainers water bottle medal and a vest
or do we want some sort of generic and then they're spread across i think we want we want each of them to have all of them
is my initial thoughts um and then the only thing the only thing i see there is whether the vest and
the medal get kind of mixed together unless you have the medal kind of trailing backwards
across his neck that he's been trailing behind him i don't know anyway i'll let that food for thoughts what's
your thinking ice labs yeah if we're gonna have the metal uh if we're gonna have it on the ship
it's gonna block it's gonna block what's written on the vests so i think having it fly around from here backwards a good idea yeah cool cool yes right okay well like i say we've uh
we've made a lot of progress today um i see t money's just jumped in in the top as well let's sip a drink um yeah so um i won't recap again because we've recapped a couple of times
if you want to if you want to read the recap i'm sure lurky will lurk it and present it all as
well i've also pinned to the top as well um the lurky referral link um it doesn't really take much to do because
essentially you just you go to lurkey sign in with twitter and what it'll start doing is it'll
just start um kind of rewarding you points and for your profile just for just for speaking in spaces
um or hosting spaces or whatever i think it's worth doing now because
if you look at the very first pin tweet at the top the chia blockchain has made it to kind of
the front page of the lurkey website um which is quite difficult to do because you're you're
fighting against the the world of the dgens who are talking about you know aster and pump dot farm
and pepe and and these type of things but but you know um so it's it's pretty good going like uh
congrats to track and whatever i pinned it up there that you know whatever we're doing this
week talking about cheer gets us on the front page there and it puts you in the mind of um all these other kind
of ecosystems and they're not necessarily all dgens dgen ecosystems you know you've got let's
say let's face it 90 of them are but you know avalanche on their arbitrum hyper liquid uh
virtual protocol cardano see we're we're actually ahead of being talked about in spaces currently
we are ahead of apecoin cardano uh hedera uh i think fartcoin we're ahead of ripple believe it
or not there you go on the leaderboard there we are kind of so sorry monkey could ask what what are we ahead of them in the
number of hours hosted or views listens so the way the way lurky works is it there's an ai bot that
listens to spaces and what it'll do it'll it'll fish out kind of key keywords everywhere so it'll
look for the word cheer so we're talking about cheer today so within our space you know
we're positive about cheer so it'll give a nice positive review of of cheer uh and then across
the whole of the space's ecosystem whatever's people's talking about and currently it's a it's
a it's a meme coin called astar or asta um so that's kind of top of the leaderboard there so whatever's being talked about um kind of
goes into this big kind of pool of information and um you appear then you know on a 24 hour
six hour time frame so if we look at if i switch on to the six hour we are the fourth most talked
about cryptocurrency being talked about on the whole of um sort of
web three spaces right now if you click on the 12 hour we're one two three four one two three four
five six seven eight the eighth top coin being talked about so like the more the more it's
talked about the more it appears on this front page so 24 hours we're sort of 20th something like that
seven days we're right at the bottom there but we're still on there uh 30 days let's have a
look it opens the 30 days we're not on the 30 day tab so uh it's quite interesting but if you if you
kind of use that referral link at the top it you start building a points process so if you're up on stage talking about
i don't know at the moment it's kind of lurky then you'll gain some points within that so the
ai will pick up that you've been talking about lurky and you'll gain some points and and eventually
i believe these points are going to transfer at some token i'm not really sure 100 about that
or whether you'll be able to use these points for something but things like um so the idea being is that at the moment they run campaigns
and so their recent campaign was talking about um i can't remember something they've
they're talking about predibot right now so if you talk about predibot in your space
which is like uh reading off their thing here
uh the predict base is the leading prediction market on the base app so me just talking about
that will give me some points in the space that can be converted to some sort of cryptocurrency
probably at some point so the idea being that that chia or monkey zoo or tangan could pay for a kind of a uh a promotion or a um a campaign on
there and you can then suddenly be in the mind's eye of all these other um kind of cryptocurrencies
so yeah it's it's it's worth signing up now because you're you're going to be gaining sort
of early points i think if you use like myself or some other profile kind of referral link,
you're going to get yourself some early points,
which then, like I say,
may eventually turn into some actual funds at some point.
So, and all it,
all it will take really is clicking on that link,
go into the website.
It'll just ask you to sign in with your like Twitter account,
sign in with your um like twitter account sign in with your twitter account um and and what's cool about it as well is you can look at your profile or your
dashboard um and looking sort of through it you can see you know where you've earned points by
talking about certain things and spaces you can you can kind of click on cheer on the front page of lurky and um it'll give you all
the discussions i can see like uh three hours ago you there you're a new form of music had a space
and it talks about it so just reading the top one here so edward this is kind of you it says
reflected on the unintended consequences
of previous marathon spaces noting that they spurred increased discussion about cheer led
to the creation of weekly spaces like art thursdays and fostered community connection
so it kind of breaks it down like that you can you can click on the space and it'll break break
it down even further it'll tell you what coins have been talked about
within that space it'll give you an overview uh it'll give you a mind map so it's like a really
really useful tool um it tells you who's speaking in there so it says the host was edward said i
was a speaker it said orange gooey was a speaker um yeah and it kind of breaks it right down into
in little segments which is which you can then use like um if you were a business like chia for
instance and they'd say did a two-week campaign they could break down what people are talking
about within all of these areas all these different spaces and because it's a campaign
all of these areas all these different spaces and because it's a campaign different ecosystems would
be kind of prompted to talk about it they could find out from that information what's going right
and what's going right across kind of their their well i study marketing but lack of marketing um
you know what's being talked about and is that correct and is that message getting across properly or um you know and then if you look further into the future of what lurking could do
you know Nike could do a campaign on um on on a on a range of clothing for instance and
the feedback they can then get from the API by digging into what lurkies lurked across all these
spaces what people are talking about
their product they can then see what's working what's not working and it becomes like a quite
valuable commodity to to businesses as well so you know it may be you know for me personally
it probably wouldn't be worth talking about the monkey or keep doing a monkey zoo campaign
it might be worth it to get eyes out there so people
start looking at it um but you kind of want to be a bigger ecosystem player for it to probably work
well in my opinion but um but yeah i highly recommend just signing up for it because all
you're going to do at this stage is be early into it and start earning these tokens and if the
tokens actually turn into some sort of value at some point then great if not then then you haven't
you haven't really lost too much because all you've really done is it's signed up to them so
that they can start looking at your your work let me have a look at a new form of music's profile so we'll
let's see if I can click on him to Edwards are you because you haven't
signed up I can't click on your profile does it I've got one question does it
can it access your voice data so there's certain rules we had a little conversation with
them a month or so a couple of months ago and they can only they can only track recorded spaces
um sort of from a legal point of view because you are kind of putting it out there etc um and all it
does is it kind of builds a profile around you
i don't personally know what exact data they take or keep or log um but essentially if you're
talking in a space and you're recording it you're kind of giving them permission to to listen to it
and analyze it if that makes sense but what kind of what are you coming from like um like a concern
well i'm not yeah i suppose voice cloning is whether they can access your data or not they
could still clone my voice but i'm thinking like could my voice start popping up in spaces
pretending that i'm on twitter when i'm not let's say but uh whether i they access it or not they
could still it's all public.
So all my spaces are recorded.
So it doesn't really make any difference,
but I'm just curious if they could analyze maybe all the spaces you've done
through it without your okaying it, I guess.
But then again, they're all public anyway.
So Robert, I'm just thinking.
Yeah, yeah.
Because we did question that when they when they came
up um if you kind of follow them uh and they they do host some spaces they go in spaces and talk
about their product um a lot of a lot of the spaces are mainly concerned about you know when
are you going to release this turk and when are my points going to be worth some cash money
whereas we kind of hid it from um you know a know like what products are you doing what's the bigger picture legally where do you stand you know do you
are you allowed to do this and you know what's your legal representation of this and um which
was quite interesting to see that obviously they had to go down that road and figure out
what they could legally do and then from an api point of view can they legally let people gain
your they can't let you gain your data but they can let that gain access to your space and what
was talked about within that space and things like that so um i think i think personally personally
it's one of the few things about the kind of info-fi craze that's been going on for the last year or so, whether it's Kato or Wallchain, et cetera, et cetera, that are doing similar things that is more genuine.
Because I think when things like Kato, which are essentially doing the same thing but for posting on your timeline, you can come up with a post about something
on your timeline and churn it out as much as you want or can and you might not believe any of it
but when it comes to spaces and and especially their algorithm they're they're nailing that
that kind of ai agent to really know or really dive deep into the sentiment of the person that's talking so they can
they're learning how to learn if they're talking positively about it whether they actually do
really understand the subject matter um and i think the further that goes the sort of more
advanced it will become but they're in my opinion one of the few that are going to succeed because they are doing it in such a way where it's genuine content that they're looking at.
Genuine stuff that's kind of being used rather than just churned out AI slop that somebody can write about something on the timeline.
Yeah. And people love leaderboards so if we're at
the top of leaderboards there then it makes sense to stay there anyway but other apps will come up
because there's got to be you know media attention new front pages are going to be like the spaces
analytical app so if we're at the top of them all the time that's a good thing so yeah it sounds great yeah exactly
we've just moved up to third on the six hour leaderboard ahead of ahead of pancake swap
uh trust wallet uh who else is behind us pepe the region so you know the only thing that's
in front of us at the moment are the kind of new astar meme coin and sui so i think by the
end of the day on the six hour space uh or six hour timeline we want we want to try and get
cheer to number one um so yeah if you're on a space later on t money space he's always doing a
great job uh of kind of talking about lurking talking about cheer promoting it and yeah so we've got T-Money
Drak just up on the side but T-Money how's it going
we're all set up for your next space
G-Morange my friends
I'm doing well
hopefully you're doing well too I hope you had
a great space I just woke up like
14 minutes ago so
G-Morange
G-Morange
yeah I'm all set I'll go running up this space
here in about like two minutes and then um yeah migrate over we'll hand the baton over to yourself
uh now we've had it we've had a great space um considering the time zone difference uh ice labs
degena edward uh like really stepped up we've we've
created something really good so far so far so good and uh i think on the on the back end of it
we'll we'll all get together in a little group chat and um and thrash out a few more details so
yeah it's been going well been going good uh drag good morning to you as well sir how are you buddy
good morning good morning to everybody i'm, sir. How are you, buddy? Good morning. Good morning to everybody.
I'm doing all right, like Team Money.
I'm just slowly rolling out of bed.
Long day yesterday.
I got to say, it's really, it just makes me smile when I wake up first thing in the morning
and I turn on spaces and y'all are in here cooking up a project together and I see Ice Labs in here and Jenna and everybody.
It just makes me happy, man. It makes me really happy to see everybody collabing and building and hanging out and doing the spaces.
Like I was saying yesterday, I wouldn't do this for a different group. It takes a lot of energy, as you know, a lot of effort.
say yesterday i wouldn't do this for a different group takes a lot of energy as you know a lot of
effort and uh it's it's just amazing to see you guys doing it it's just really fucking awesome so
proud of you guys great job this morning yeah no worries i think uh we're we're proud to take the uh
the the night shift or some of the night shift i could uh i woke up i woke up in the night about
three o'clock and i see the spaces are going and then i woke up about six o'clock and i saw steve step post a message saying edward
can you i'm falling asleep here can you take over so it's good that you got some different time
zones amongst the group otherwise yeah it works out i uh i sleep well knowing that you and Edward are chasing behind me there.
Because during the day, I can stay, I can keep it going, I don't mind.
But going to sleep is a little nerve-wracking, but having Edward on the back shift and a veteran makes me sleep a lot better.
Because I really don't want to wake up and see the space has been down for three hours.
You know what I mean? I really don't want to. It'll just ruin the has been down for three hours. You know what I mean? I really don't want to.
It'll just ruin the vibe.
It's no longer, you know what I mean?
But I did think of, on that note,
let me say this. I did think about this for next year.
I feel like
we're the laser
disc of marathon
spaces right now. And before,
they learned to do the double density and make
discs the same size. We just go bigger and wider. So we so we went 222 hours but you know I got thinking about it
for the following years it would be amazing if we could say a thousand hours of spaces right
and you're thinking no way Drac you're crazy but we don't have to do consecutive we can do
cumulative yesterday we had a couple spaces going at the same time there's nothing stopping us from But we don't have to do consecutive. We can do cumulative.
Yesterday we had a couple spaces going at the same time.
There's nothing stopping us from making it more of an ongoing event,
more spaces hyper-focused in the following years.
So, I mean, the crazy factor can be 5,000 hours of spaces, blah.
And everybody's like, these guys are fucking crazy.
But we just make it more dense as opposed to spread out the time.
So anyway, I'm already thinking about next year.
You heard it here for 365 days of spaces coming from Drax Home Lab.
But you know what I mean?
Like if you've got two spaces going for an hour, there's two hours.
There's the GIA crew being hyper efficient.
We're already an hour ahead of our 222.
We're on pace for 223.
There we go.
Right.
Let's hand over the baton to T-Money.
I suspect he's going to jump down and fire up his one.
What I will do now,
going back to what we've been talking about the whole space,
I'll just create a quick one that we can get rid of afterwards but a kind of um a chat in behind the scenes with ice
labs to jenna edward myself uh and we'll um we'll we'll work on a a little plan just to make sure
that we're all on the same song sheet and um um yeah i appreciate everyone's time today to kick off something can i
do one last quip story to add to that because i heard you talking earlier about the the single
did how do we do all that yada yada yeah two things came to my mind when i was listening
one well three things really one if you did it totally comfortable with it trust you happy to
to do that two if people were really butthurt over like who gets
the royalties you do a contract visual everybody sign it mint it put it on chain uh three you can
do multi-six those are just my ideas that pop in my head around around that for you guys when you're
talking this one yeah yeah we kind of um yeah early on in the space right at the start we kind
of talked about some of that stuff as well so it's all part of the uh it's all part of the process isn't it you know uh but yeah we'll work on that throughout
the week and just work out the best way to do it and and make sure that nobody's essentially
butthurt about anything because you know we don't want to do that you know and like um the initial
thoughts were kind of 50 developers 50 ice labs maybe ice labs, maybe, maybe, you know, we kind of do,
um, you know, maybe 10% DeGener, 10% Edward, uh, whatever we'll work on it.
Whatever you end up working on, here's, here's a point to that. A lot of people and monkey,
I think you'll understand this, but a lot of young builders and developers haven't come across this necessarily yet, but succession planning, proactive succession planning is something that is exceptionally
important. Most people forget about it. It's not just important to protect the project,
but it's important to protect everybody in it, everybody's vested interest. So having
conversations about what happens if somebody gets pissed off and leaves, they're uncomfortable.
What happens if somebody doesn't? You have to have those conversations early, like Monke's doing, like you guys are doing,
because they will ruin a project, a friendship, a working relationship faster than anything and there's nothing wrong in fact I will work with
people sooner that will have that conversation before anybody else whether they're less talented
or you know there's less budget or whatever if if I have that clarity as a developer and I can have
that open conversation with my team or you know say the project, it is absolutely paramount to have those conversations.
So I'm really glad that you guys are talking about that stuff. It's something that doesn't
get practiced often, right? Nobody's practicing what happens if I get hit by a bus tomorrow.
We do it with all of our clients. We do it with all of our projects. I have to do it because,
you know, I've had heart conditions and so on and so, you know, I've abused the hell of myself
over the years.
So it's important for my clients to know that I have a plan,
that everything's on GitHub, that they have all access.
And so the conversation like you're having,
I just want people to know that sometimes
when they're uncomfortable, that's when you know
you're having the right conversation.
So anyway, just a little point to that, but you're right.
Let's get over to T-Money.
Yes, yes, yeah god monkey one
one thing yeah i don't know if it's just on my phone but like there's a letter missing in the
space could you squeeze one letter in somehow there's an h maybe i know i noticed it earlier
on i think i'd have to i'd have to remove my seedling or a space somewhere
but that's fine that's fine I can live with
Finis
I'll work on it tomorrow
making new words
creating new words
that's all
I'll work on a new one
any final points Ice Labs to Jenna
before we depart over
a team on the space
from my side it's been fun
let the fun continue as we move over to the next space.
Yeah.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, everything's been fun.
I had fun working with you all.
I'm on my laptop now just catching out the base body.
So I'm going to have it.
So you're going to create a group chat for us,
and I'm going to just be posting updates about that there.
Fantastic. Yeah, we'll do that cool okay great first space great day one of project uh space runners as it's now known as uh yeah we'll do it all again tomorrow i'll be on from 9 a.m sort of uk time
uh i'll put a little reminder out but um yeah everyone head out of a tea money space and we'll we'll carry on the party and uh i'll create that i'll create that group chat and we'll uh
we'll work on it from there um yeah catch you all later catch you all tomorrow see you later guys Thank you.
