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3XP x DCENTRAL ft. @SpikeReacts_ @Alliestrasza @iceyyy_gaming 👾
Recorded: April 24, 2023 Duration: 1:02:09Space Recording
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Hey, Ali, what's up?
Hello.
I was playing this little music, but I think it's just better to start chatting.
Hey, Andy.
Hey, Derek.
What's up, guys?
Hello.
How are you guys doing today?
I'm doing good.
By the way, Ali, how was Wildcard?
I know you played, right, throughout the weekend?
Yeah, yeah.
Wildcard was actually really, really good.
Like, super impressed with the team.
Apparently, it's been in development for, like, five years or something.
And, yeah, I have a pretty amazing team behind him.
And it was a very good time.
I need to get better.
Low-key, Mason crushed me in our practice rounds.
But it was super fun, and I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in the future.
I have a little inkling that, like, Mason is one of these, like, annoying gamers
that is just surprisingly very good, like, every game they try.
Am I correct here?
Yeah.
Basically, that's him, except for FPSs.
FPSs, he just struggles so hard.
Like, I'm probably better at them than he is.
But strategy games, he absolutely dominates.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
He also won the, what's it called, the Rainy Tournament?
He did.
Yeah.
He won the whole time.
I'm like, hmm.
It's like he's dominating, yeah, and everything he kind of plays.
So, yeah.
I'm not surprised.
I remember when I visited you guys, he was playing, like, TFT as well.
But, yeah.
And he was weird.
Hey, Chris.
Hey, Michelle.
Hey, Icy.
What's up, guys?
Hey.
Hey, everyone.
Yeah, he won the Rainy.
That was so crazy when I saw that.
I was like, what?
I thought you were going to win it, maybe, Ali.
And then he won it.
Yeah.
No, he's super good.
He came in third in the Planet Mojo, and I came in fifth, too.
So, we're, as a couple, taking down these tournaments, and we're looking forward to playing more.
Yeah, the power couple.
Sleeper OP.
Hey, Justin.
Welcome.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Going good.
Hey, Justin.
Getting all the answers assembled here.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
Let's see.
So, I just posted on Telegram.
Let me.
I think I posted here as well.
If, guys, welcome, everyone.
If you wouldn't mind, just, you know, giving the little space a like, a retweet.
We very much appreciate it.
They're from the bottom right.
So, we can get people in here.
Let me spawn my main account here for a second.
And then we'll begin.
We have a couple icebreaker questions while we get a few more people joining.
And then we can get right into it.
But I appreciate everyone for taking the time.
Appreciate it, guys.
Chris, Michelle, would you like to say anything while I retweet here from my main account in a sec?
I'm also getting a tweet out.
But, Allie, I was going to ask, I saw you played Parallel as well.
It's one I haven't had a chance to play.
How has that been?
Oh, I'm so excited for Parallel.
I'm very hyped.
I was in alpha testing for a couple of months and did this series with Ready Player DAO where each week we went over each of the parallels and talked about the gameplay and strategies and stuff like that.
And then actually, you know, got to play the game.
And I have high hopes.
Let's just put it that way.
Of all the, you know, card games that I've been playing, it's super cool.
And I can't wait for, you know, the greater TCG community to get their hands on it and try it out.
Awesome.
Yeah, I had one call with them and they had some really interesting tokenomics plans that I thought was pretty novel.
I don't know if it's live in the game yet.
Probably not.
But something about turning the players into, like, the generators of cards themselves.
And it made me think of, like, the magic card shop, right, where you can actually just buy boxes of packs and then you sell them, right, as the shop owner.
And they had some sort of digital equivalent to that that he was hinting at.
Yeah, they've got a pretty amazing team and lots of plans.
So that's going to be awesome.
Yeah, I think I saw someone from the Parallel team.
I think they slid into our DMs.
So, Michelle, Grace, I'm not sure if you're already talking to them.
But, yeah, they might be, you know, interested in 3XP.
So definitely check it out.
I think it was the person that runs.
I mean, he said he's developing the game.
But I think it's also the person that runs the podcast.
But, yeah.
Anyways, hey, Michael.
I think that is our panel for today, guys.
Welcome, everyone.
You know, we put this space together today to talk about, obviously, 3XP, the partnership with Decentral, and then, you know, with a little bit of, you know, a couple of topics about creators as well, you know, and their importance.
So we got a couple icebreaker questions here to get us started.
So I'm going to go ahead and ask the first one.
I mean, we don't have to go into too much detail, but since our topic is about, you know, gaming expos and conventions, the question is, what are you guys' favorite, you know, kind of like gaming expos slash convention stories or memories?
I'll start real quick.
So, for example, mine was I used to work for this team called F2K.
And I remember going into TwitchCon, I think it was in 2019, right before the pandemic.
And I finally got to meet the people that I had been working on for, like, half a decade that I never got to meet.
So people like Ali, you know, Slissa, Jackie was there as well.
Who else was there?
I mean, the whole team was there, and we got to take them out on this dinner.
And I remember we actually got a big crew, and back then, you know, the team was going to pay for it.
But, like, me and Mason were sweating.
We were like, oh, shit, we have to, you know, we have to pay for the bill.
And then we got to get reimbursed.
So, I'm like, we were like, you know, get anything you want.
But at the same time, we were like, oh, damn, I wonder what the bill is going to be like.
But, yeah, no, it was an amazing evening.
And, yeah, everyone had a bunch of fun.
So, yeah, that's when I learned how to, you know, take, that's when I had to learn crowd control 101.
Because I tried to get a picture of the group, and I basically had to, you know, manage a whole crowd.
So, yeah, that's where I learned how to control the crowds.
But, yeah, all right.
And so, now we'll go in order.
We'll go, I mean, as it appears on my screen is Ali, then Michael and Chris, and then we'll continue from there.
So, yeah, sure.
Well, okay, so I've been going to gaming conventions for almost like seven years at this point.
So, there's a lot of memories from like BlizzCons and TwitchCons and stuff like that.
But I guess one that is kind of standing out right now and is probably relevant to this conversation is the BlizzCon of 2017.
That was when the conversation of crypto like really started to enter into the minds of all of these strategy gamers.
And so, I will never forget like, you know, blockchain, Bitcoin, ETH just being the talk of the town.
And there's like already so much overlap between strategy gamers and card game players and this space.
And so, I don't know.
I guess it was just a very infectious time.
And that was, you know, one of my introductions to the world.
And it was just super cool to, you know, watch people have these, you know, very elementary conversations about the space.
While also being, you know, drunk at a BlizzCon party and, you know, the Anaheim Hilton lobby, you know.
So, it was a good time.
And, you know, I'll look on it with lots of fondness.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Michael, then Chris.
And then we'll keep going from there.
Yeah, I think my favorite one would be the Fortnite World Series.
So, I coached a team in Southeast Asia and Vietnam and they actually qualified for Worlds.
So, we got the chance to kind of like go see their production and everything.
Like, while the gamers were focused on the game, I was focusing on everything that was happening backstage with everything that's going on.
Especially like having a crowded stadium.
But that was probably my highlight in terms of like seeing a major, major event go down.
And then also, you know, Booga making a world history as one of the top earning esports gamers.
Because of the prize pool that was going on at the time was, it was the highest prize pool in basically like gaming history.
Yeah, there was like, I think the total prize pool for that, wasn't it like 1 billion or something across everyone?
I don't think it's a billion.
I think it was like a hundred million or something like that.
I don't remember the exact numbers, but I know it beat the world record.
The previous one set was like, was from Dota.
Yeah, it's still crazy.
All right, Chris, then Icy, then Justin, then Spike, then Michelle.
So, I've admittedly never been to BlizzCon.
But I have a bunch of good memories going to the different PAXs over the years.
And I think it was PAX West 2018, maybe?
Everything before COVID is like a blur.
Those couple of years before, whether it was 2018 or 2019.
But we were working with HP.
Do you guys remember HP Omen?
I don't even know if that brand still exists.
But they put on a gigantic sort of arena-style influencer competition.
And I was part of the HP team.
We were just helping them as like an events partner.
And it was a double-decker setup.
You had like pods of people competing in PUBG.
And this is like right after PUBG, like Spectator Mode went live.
And it was really the most incredible thing.
So, while our arena won't be that extravagant,
we're going to try to give them a run for their money
and put on something incredible at 3XP.
So, yeah, that was PAX West 2018.
PAX West, shout out.
Icy, Justin, Spike.
I'm debating telling a story, a funny story with Chris at GDC
or just talking about like going to the arcade after GDC
and just playing a whole bunch of arcade games
with a bunch of Web3 gamers and stuff like that.
Maybe I'll share the Chris story because it's maybe more funny.
It's less about gaming, but it did happen at GDC.
So, we were trying to go to the Magic Eden side event.
And like a bot, I didn't register and I didn't have like a QR code.
And for most of GDC, that was fine.
Like you could just go in or whatever.
But this Magic Eden event was like super strict.
They were like at capacity.
So, we go up to the front door and the girl's like,
oh, if you don't have a QR code, you can't get in.
And I'm like, oh, like, okay.
At that moment, Chris walks out and he's like,
and I'm like, hey, Chris, like, can you help me?
And Chris is like, oh, like, I'm leaving.
He can have my spot or whatever.
And the lady's like being a hard ass.
She's like, no, we're at capacity.
Like, you got to go talk to Susan.
So, Chris is like, all right, like, I'll go inside.
I'll see if I can hook you up.
30 seconds later, Chris comes out and he's like, hey, like,
she said only you can come in.
Your friend can't come in or whatever.
So, I'm like, all right, I'll go in.
I'll try and find a QR code and I'll help my buddy out.
So, I make it inside and I text Chris.
And I'm like, hey, man, like, thank you so much.
I'm sorry to put you on the spot.
Like, you're a legend.
And Chris texts me back and he's like, yeah, dude, like,
I couldn't find that lady.
I just completely made that up.
But have fun anyways.
So, I was like, oh, man, Chris, you're the man.
I appreciate you so much.
Yeah, she fell for that bluff pretty hard.
I'm sorry about your friend.
No, he made it in like five minutes later.
So, it was all good.
But that was an amazing moment.
And, like, funny stuff like that just happens at all these conferences,
which is super fun.
It's all about the confidence on the line, you know?
When you're on the line and you just tell them something
and you're really confident, they'll usually let you in.
Justin, what about you?
That was a really good story, by the way.
Thank you, guys.
Yeah, no, thanks for sharing that as well.
Well, yeah, I think, well, Chris already said PAX,
so I don't want to reiterate too much.
For me, it was more like 2015 PAX.
Got to meet Faker and many other pro sports League of Legends guys.
That's when PAX was at its prime, in my opinion.
It went downhill from there.
But actually, my other most favorite,
I guess it's more like an esports tournament and event,
was probably Dota TI3.
I was there in Seattle.
It was the finals between Na'Vi and Alliance.
It was game five, and it was a base rush at the very end.
So it was just cool being part of the esports experience,
seeing cool games there, meeting other players as well,
and just having a good time with meeting a lot of other gamers together.
I think that's what's really cool about that,
from the esports side to meeting developers
and even the artists as well, people building the games.
I think that's cool.
And I think that's what was fun with PAX as well, too.
They're giving away a lot of loot and a lot of just cool things for the community
and really got everybody, all the gamers, involved with the developers back then.
Awesome, awesome.
Spike and then Michelle.
What's up, guys?
Oh, man, I missed out on Icy Story.
I just saw a bunch of emojis the whole time
and utter blank noise because I actually got rugged on my end.
But, yeah, I'm going to talk quickly about my first and last attended gaming convention.
The first had to be QuakeCon, like, 2010.
I was super young.
I flew by the first time by myself.
I met with a couple different groups.
One is called Texas Team Players, but it's a long-gone gaming forum.
And along that, I actually used to compete in H2O, which is, like, the brother clan of PMS clan.
So, like, that was my first exposure to kind of an esports community, which was cool.
My most recent event that I went to was the Dead Drop event over there in Arlington, Texas,
a little over a month ago.
And it was a blast.
You know, we've been trying to help onboard players into Web3 for so long.
And, like, legit, like, there was six Web3 people there.
And then at the end of the day, everyone was, like, believing in, like, the project, which was amazing.
It was, like, me, Stash, Prof Pressure, and a couple other people.
And I was waiting in line to see Doc, and people were like,
man, I don't know why I was, like, fading, you know, out of disrespect in Web3 and all this stuff.
Like, you know, this game's really cool.
And it's happening there.
It's events like 3XP that are really going to help, you know, bridge the gap
and really put the excitement in front of the gamers.
And, you know, super excited to see everyone there.
Awesome.
Yeah, that's really good to hear that, like, there was, like, mostly gamers,
and they enjoyed the event, right, even though it was a Web3 game.
So definitely a step in the right direction.
And last but not least, Michelle, what's your favorite convention or expo memory?
Yeah, and really quick, I just wanted to ask Michael, if Tony still wants to speak,
please have him step right up.
Also, shout out to Kate in the audience.
If we can bump her to speaker, if you'd like to speak, that'd be great.
Most exciting memory is actually Justin and Michael and Chris,
this past GDC, at shout out to dubs in the audience, Soulbound.
We actually began our conversations to discuss this Decentral and 3XP partnership
at Soulbound's event, this past GDC.
So that was one of my favorite memories.
It was just very collaborative, and we all really wanted to work together instead of being
competitive to each other.
And thus, this partnership has formed.
So really excited for that.
Incredible.
Well, that kind of concludes our kind of, like, icebreaker question round.
So we'll go ahead and jump right in.
And Michael, if Tony comes in, just, you know, feel free to let us know.
But I will keep an eye out for him, and we'll let him up.
But yeah, the first question is obviously a little bit about, you know,
the 3XP and Decentral partnership.
So, guys, how do you see what the gaming expo is like, 3XP and, you know,
and the GM Summit help accelerate the industry?
You know, because ultimately, I think this is the goal, right?
Yeah.
I mean, that's absolutely the goal.
So I think this week is Consensus Austin.
And I was there exactly a year ago last year, and I walked the entire showroom floor,
and there were zero gaming companies.
Absolutely zero.
So it was Wallet, followed by a DeFi company, by a blockchain.
And I think that was when it, like, first initially hit me.
I was like, where are all the gaming stuff, right?
Like, I just read a report that 50% of on-chain dApp activity is gaming.
I'm, you know, knee-deep in working with all these Web3 game developers.
They're not quite ready yet, right?
This is a year ago, but, like, they're coming.
And at that point, I was just trying to, you know, kind of survey the scene
and figure out, you know, what was going on?
What was missing?
What disconnect was happening?
And it became clear that it's a blind spot for most Web3 conferences,
that they don't have either connections or, you know,
they sort of are just prioritizing DeFi applications too much.
And then on the flip side, you know, you have E3,
which obviously went to the grave hating Web3,
wouldn't accept anyone, rather, you know,
die and not take a single exhibitor than to give that a shot.
So it became clear that there was an opening
for sort of this pure play Web3 Gaming Expo.
And I had known Justin for many years.
We actually met at some eSports conferences back in, like, 2016 or so.
And their team were probably the ones doing it the best, right?
They were working through all the different Decentral events
and they knew gaming pretty well.
And so that's how this partnership came about.
And as Michelle alluded to, it all kind of fell together at GDC,
but we had been talking for a number of months.
And so there's all these great games coming out.
There's no place to showcase them.
And so we're now working together to have the marketing destination
built for Web3 Gaming.
And so, Justin, I'll let you and Michael add on to that.
But, yeah.
Yeah, no, thanks for sharing that as well.
And, yeah, you know, for me, knowing kind of the 3XP team
or at least some of the members there from Chris and others,
even just back when we first started, even in crypto days
and even beyond earlier than that as well, too,
more of the eSports side of things as well.
You know, I've known Chris and the team very, very well.
OGs in both Web3 and even just, like, in the games realm as well.
So it was kind of a no-brainer kind of seeing the full plan and vision
from Chris and 3XP's team on bringing this to reality,
especially to front run and provide this type of atmosphere
where E3 wasn't going to even provide that at all.
So, you know, E3 was, when they were still going to try to execute it this year,
they weren't even allowing Web3 discussions at all,
which is just absolutely nuts.
And it's not just about Web3 in general,
but it's just, you know, the fact that they were just having an open stance
and just, like, not allowing any tolerance at all.
Whereas you go GDC and other places,
it's been a totally different story as well.
So it was really cool to see that.
And, you know, for us, we've been kind of building up the Web3 community globally
with just D-Central,
and we always try to cover all the different aspects of that,
whether it be games, metaverses, NFTs, DeFi, etc., as well,
just so we can kind of help level up Web3 together
and mash that all together as well.
So we're happy to kind of join forces here with 3XP
to bring in also more additional programming as well,
a little bit more heavier on the metaverse side,
NFTs and some of the entertainment as well,
to bring in some new, fresh speakers
and potentially just integrate what they're doing into games
because games and gamification, I think,
is going to really bring in a lot of the adoption,
whether it's actually bringing, you know, direct games itself
or gamifying certain aspects of other...
I mean, you really look at through NFTs, DeFi, metaverses, music,
everybody keeps trying to tout, like, a gaming angle as well, right?
So it's clear that, whether it be Bored Apes
and these other guys as well,
that games are, like, the easy way to onboard new wallets
or make the wallets invisible, make it more fun,
or even potentially even earn more money,
again, through, like, Dookie Dash and other games as well
and skins and stuff too.
So the applications are endless,
and I think games are...
To me, I'm a big gamer as well,
so it just kind of drives real usage forward
across the different chains
and spreads the missions of Web3 as well,
which is kind of what we all align here
is to push that forward.
And I agree with, like, Chris as well,
like, looking at, like, ConsenSys,
which we're, you know, just skipping as well too,
but, like, there literally was...
It was supposed to bring, like, Web3 together,
but it was just all institutional in suits,
which, again, that's just their thing.
But there just isn't a focused conference
and gathering that's just dedicated
to pretty much, like, the biggest category
in Web3 right now,
and in the next three to five years,
still continuous,
I think is going to be the most well-funded
and pushed applications
and use cases for Web3.
That's another good point, right?
It's not only the on-chain activity
that is pretty, you know, overwhelming for gaming.
It's also the funding, right?
I don't have the statistic offhand,
but a pretty large percentage
of all Web3 funding from venture capitalists
went into the gaming and metaverse category, right?
So it's sort of being ignored
from an application point of view,
and it's also like,
hey, all the smartest people at these funds
also believe, you know,
this is where they want to, you know,
bet their money,
and it's also being, you know,
ignored from that angle as well.
So, yeah.
But how, you know,
how are we going to get to mainstream adoption?
It's going to be through content creators,
influencers, pro players, eSports teams
really adopting this stuff,
and that's how I think we're going to break through.
I like to say that sometimes we're, you know,
we're building in public,
but we're building in public
inside of a Web3 bubble,
and so in order to blast out of that bubble,
I think it's going to require a lot of big names
to kind of create that sea change.
So that's my transition into the next topic.
A hundred percent.
Yeah, I think what you were trying to mention
was in 2018,
the majority of the funds
actually invested into GameFi,
and you guys got to remember
that games usually take up to two years
to kind of come out to like a,
to start releasing out in beta,
you know, beta,
and having access to the public and everything.
And also for this portion as well,
it's like,
how do you enable the next generation
of like new users into crypto?
You start going on a mobile basis,
and you start going on a desktop basis.
So games are a really easy gateway
for them to have fun,
and also at the same time,
they can be educated through a game
on how to onboard a lot easier
than just,
hey, watch this tutorial.
If you're onboarding into a game,
and it shows you a tutorial
of how to match everything
and how the items actually work,
it's an easier use case
and an easier onboarding system
compared to,
hey, sit through this video
and see how you can create a MetaMask.
While some of the games
already have that integration
already integrated in.
Yeah, that's spot on.
Yeah, and you're lucky
if you can get to Alpha in two years, right?
It can be three, four plus years.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's what you just said,
spot on,
because, you know,
literally the best tech
to onboard anyone into anything
is literally gaming, right?
You gamify anything or games
and you can onboard people
onto the tech, right?
So I think that's why we need,
you know,
conventions like 3XP
or expos like 3XP
or, you know, GM Summit.
But yeah,
I'd like to also get,
you know,
the content creators take,
like Ali, Spike, Icy.
So for example, Ali,
you have AliCoin,
you know,
you can also,
you know,
you've also been
kind of like building that
over the last,
you know,
couple of years
or few years, actually.
What is your take
on kind of like,
you know,
going to these gaming expos
and meeting other builders?
I guess it's just
a nice reassurance,
you know,
coming from someone
that's mainly,
you know,
exists in the Web2 world.
It's not the most popular thing,
you know,
to bring up concepts
like blockchain
and Web3 gaming
to my existing audience.
So, you know,
going to something
like an ETH Denver
or a 3XP
and, you know,
being around other people
that share the same vision,
it's sort of
an energetic thing, right?
When you're around other people
and you're speaking together,
you know,
it kind of gives you
this motivation
to keep going
and some reassurance
that like,
hey,
maybe we're on the right track here.
So I'm just excited
to like meet other content creators,
meet game developers,
just interact with other people
that, you know,
we all share the same mindset.
Spike,
Icy?
I guess to layer on top of that,
you know,
we were just talking about
how the 3XP team
was meeting up
and talking with
the Decentral team
and, you know,
how unique synergy
and like partnership
came out of it.
So I'm just super excited
to, you know,
meet everyone
just like how Ali said
and just meet
all the cool things,
you know,
whether it be content collabs
or business partnerships
or anything of that nature.
So I'm just super excited
to meet everyone
like-minded
that's really trying
to help push Web3 forward
and just try to make,
you know,
cultural relevant events
and impact.
Icy,
what about you?
I know you like,
love to make a lot of content
at these,
you know,
expos.
So I'd like to hear
your take as well.
Yeah,
I mean,
like Ali and Spike said,
these events are great
for meeting people
in person,
building those relationships,
forging those friendships.
You know,
people work with
who they like,
right?
And to your point,
Matt,
like I've done a lot
of interviews
at these conferences,
which is great.
It's great to,
you know,
grab five minutes
with someone,
ask them about their game,
give them an opportunity
you know,
talk about what they're doing,
talk about their experience
at the conference
and kind of like provide
that media coverage
of the conference.
I'm not sure
if Kate is still here.
Oh yeah,
there's Kate.
She also like creates
great content
and media coverage
at these conferences,
right?
What comes to mind
is her playtest
of shrapnel.
And then she wrote
this incredible article
on Decrypt
talking about it.
And when I read that,
I was like,
wow,
like I had the same experience,
but she put into words
like what I thought
and felt
while playing that game.
So you get these
really cool experiences
like that,
you know,
early playtests,
early demos.
You get to meet the team
as well
and see their passion
and get really excited
about their game.
So conferences like that
are great.
Creators are great.
You know,
shout out to Spike
and everything that he's doing
with Waypoint.
I think that
one of the things
that we spoke about
last week
was like the growth
and maturity
of the space.
so it's great
to see conferences
like 3XP,
like Chris
and DecentralCon
pushing that forward
from like the event side
and then agencies
like Waypoint,
you know,
working with games
and getting creators paid
and,
you know,
the entire space
just growing
as a whole.
Yeah,
and talking about Kate,
shout out to DecryptGG,
which is launching
this week,
their gaming arm.
And,
you know,
keep a lookout
for the next couple of days
because we've got a special
announcement coming out.
But yeah,
that's,
I think it's awesome
because,
you know,
they're also working
alongside some content creators,
you know,
just to keep pushing out
that gaming content,
that Web3 gaming content.
yeah,
look out for that,
guys.
Talking about content creators,
right,
I would like to,
you know,
also ask
while we have you
also guys here
and,
you know,
anyone else can contribute.
What advice
would you guys give
to like expiring
Web3 gaming content creators
who are looking,
you know,
to like kind of like
make their mark
or establish themselves
in this,
you know,
quick,
you know,
like rapidly evolving industry?
We can start with Ali
because I know,
you know,
you've been,
you actually made
the transition.
I think,
you know better than most probably.
Yeah,
sure.
Well,
I guess on the macro,
you know,
it's just learning
how to be
a good content creator.
Like,
it's not just uploading,
you know,
videos to YouTube
or streaming on Twitch.
It's learning,
you know,
to take cut downs
of your content
and then put them on Twitter.
Like,
clearly Twitter is,
you know,
kind of number one
for this,
you know,
Web3 community.
you know,
I would definitely want to start there
and,
you know,
create content on Twitter.
But,
you know,
it's putting yourself
in as many different places
as possible
for people to discover you.
That's,
like,
on the content creation
side of things.
And then specifically,
like,
getting into the nitty gritty,
like,
perhaps it's joining DAOs.
Like,
you know,
Ready Player DAO,
I'm a content creator for them.
You know,
they have their creator network
where they're,
you know,
giving opportunities
to a lot of smaller creators
and helping people
get paid for them.
Or with Spike,
like Waypoint,
you know,
there's probably,
if you look for it,
there's,
you know,
lots of opportunities
that you can find,
I think,
and take advantage of it.
And then,
of course,
the last thing is just,
you know,
doing your due diligence
on these projects,
I think,
is really important.
Like,
if you're just promoting
everything and everything,
anything and everything,
then,
you know,
maybe your opinion
won't hold as much weight.
And so,
make sure that you look
into the team
and you actually genuinely,
you know,
really like the game
and you're going to be proud
to make that content.
And so,
if you can kind of do
those three things,
I think you'll be in good shape.
That's,
can I ask as a follow-up question?
Yep.
When you first started,
did you get a lot of pushback?
Did you get a lot of,
you know,
hey,
why are you promoting these scams?
Or maybe you still get some of that.
And so,
how do you kind of deal with that?
How do you roll with the punches?
And do you try to push them
towards education?
Or do you just kind of,
you know,
let it,
let the gameplay speak for itself?
Yeah.
I definitely still get pushback.
I think that I'm sort of in a,
maybe a unique position
because I've been talking about blockchain
for quite a while now.
And so,
when the gaming element came about,
I feel like a part of my audience
is like,
yeah,
Ali's been talking about crypto for a while.
So I feel like there's been,
you know,
some kind of acceptance
from my existing community,
even if they aren't quite into it themselves.
But I definitely still get pushback.
And,
you know,
I just,
yeah,
education.
I try to direct people like,
hey,
you know,
like if it's Skyweaver
or Parallel
or Rainy,
like all of these different games
that I've been playing,
I'm like,
there's an element to them
where you don't even need to interact
with the blockchain
if you don't want to.
You know,
like a lot of these games
are taking that path
where,
you know,
the earning side of it
is when you start buying NFTs.
But if you just want to play the game for free,
you actually have that option.
I'm not saying every game is doing that,
but those are ones
that I'm really happy to promote
because it allows people
to kind of dip their toes in the water
without having to spend
a lot of money
in order to actually play the game.
Yeah,
I think,
I think Spike can also speak to that as well
because I know that,
yeah,
the due diligence piece
is really important,
right?
Because I think that's one of the,
I would say,
responsibilities of,
you know,
that you make sure
that you're promoting a game,
you know,
or making content for a game
that is actually,
you know,
real and legitimate
and has builders behind it.
You know,
Spike,
what do you have to say
about that as well?
Because I know,
you know,
Spike is like notorious,
right?
He checks with Animoca Brands,
he checks with Magic Eden,
he hits up everyone
when he's talking to a game.
I know that much.
Yeah,
I was in a space
much like this
like a year ago
and I think
one of the,
I think the CMO
of like Unloaded
was on there
and I actually had a chance
to ask him a question.
I'm like,
hey,
what do you advise,
you know,
new creators wanting to do
Web3 content?
They said,
just exactly what Ali said,
you know,
you really want to be
very focused on working
with the best game projects.
What's important about that
you know,
one,
your credibility
and also just naturally
the best projects
are going to have,
you know,
the best engagement,
you know,
they're in largest communities.
So yeah,
it's very important
to do your due diligence
when it comes to working
with game projects
just because,
you know,
that's how decentralization works.
You never know,
you know,
what decisions
some,
you know,
shady people are making
but for the most part,
you know,
a lot of them are great,
you know,
just make sure you test
and check out,
you know,
everything there.
Other biggest form
of feedback
just to kind of
to help new creators out
is to really focus
on discovery.
I think it's kind of
a trap for new creators
to like want to instantly
become like really big
Twitch streamers
and for the most part,
like Ali said,
you want to really try
to figure out like
how to make content
on other platforms
to navigate
and move to your
long form
or your live streams.
So yeah,
just definitely focusing
on like Twitter,
TikTok,
YouTube Shorts
and really trying
to figure out
how to make
effective content
and to work on
like specifically narrative.
You know,
you really want to
really tell a good story
or really entertain,
educate someone
and you know,
as you build your community
then focus on
growing your life
from audience.
Yeah,
I just want to say
I've discovered
a lot of games
just in the past
month or two
since you announced
Waypoint
through your Twitter feed
in particular,
like that Matrix Fire game.
I think NFT Champions
I saw from you
or actually maybe
Yellow Panther first
but that Matrix Fire,
that is awesome.
so like you guys
are really helping
with the discovery
side of this
but my follow-up question
was going to be
so what happens
when you see a game
that's kind of questionable,
right?
Like maybe the team's
not fully doxed,
you know,
they want you to promote
the game
and they clearly,
you know,
have money
but you have to make
like a tough call,
right?
What,
can you tell us
like has that happened
especially as you're
forming one of the first
native Web3 gaming agencies?
Has that been happening
a lot?
Yeah,
let me tackle this
two-fold.
I've actually had a chance
to play over 100 Web3 games
since last year.
I was heavily focused
you know,
finding out what's cool,
interesting,
like that was my shtick,
you know,
like we need more
gameplay content.
I was just like playing
like three or four
different games a week
and really doing that.
I take a very heavy focus
on gameplay first content.
I think that's
a better strategy
especially because,
you know,
Web2 gamer audiences
Web3 gamer audiences
are very different
but gamer culture,
you know,
whether you're Web2,
Web3,
you know,
you love gaming
and you can understand it
when it's presented to you
in an entertaining
educational way.
In terms of due diligence,
it was one thing
when I was doing it
for myself
but now I run a community
at Waypoint,
you know,
we're a community
of communities.
You know,
we have over 30 creators
that we work closely with
so like the risk involved
with,
you know,
promoting,
you know,
incompetent
or a shady project
is like tenfold.
You know,
it's one thing
if I get hacked,
you know,
and have my assets
strained from my wallet
like let alone
my community
or our community community
so it's even more,
I guess,
important for me
to do it
just because of
the potential reach
and impact it could have
but thankfully,
you know,
there's a lot of great,
you know,
established blockchain partners,
you know,
your IMXs,
your Polygon,
your Magic E's
that do do that
and then on top of that,
you know,
I do check references
and I like to play
the games first
because again,
we focus on gameplay
first content,
you know,
it's one thing
to kind of promote
like the crypto education side
versus like promoting it
in a fun and entertaining way.
it's just,
there's a lot more
legal implications
in particular
when you're promoting things
as investments
or NFTs.
I think,
I think 3XP
is going to help as well,
right,
because obviously
for a game to,
you know,
to come and be featured
at the expo,
you know,
they have to,
you know,
kind of like work
with the team,
kind of,
you know,
they have to send people,
right,
it becomes like
a lot more tangible
and,
you know,
you can't really be on docs
at the event,
right,
so I think it's like
another layer
of legitimacy.
Yes,
especially the esports arena,
right,
the game,
there's,
there's only so many games
that we can feature there
and stream on Twitch
that have an observer mode,
that have the lobby system,
you know,
that we've been talking
to the teams
for many weeks now,
so yeah,
you have to be pretty far along
if you're going to get featured
in the arena.
All right,
so let's see
if we can jump here
into another question.
I mean,
I guess it's kind of
on the same topic,
but we can kind of,
you know,
go over it,
like I had here,
how can Web3 Gaming
empower content creators,
you know,
to take control
over their IP
and monetize as well?
Because I think
that's one of the,
you know,
current situations
that I think
a lot of creators
are facing Web2,
right?
I'm not sure
if Ali,
do you want to speak
to that spike,
I see,
but yeah,
let me know.
I'd love to maybe
direct it towards Ali
with AliCoin
and maybe,
you know,
what lessons
have you learned?
What's been,
like,
really amazing
from the community?
Like,
how are you finding
great utility for it
that maybe you didn't
realize at first?
Where is it going next
kind of thing?
Yeah,
absolutely.
I was going to start
out by saying
that I think
there's,
like,
two different avenues.
Like,
one is just the ownership
of the gaming assets,
which not just content
creators are going
to benefit from,
it's just everybody,
but because we are
content creators,
we're going to
be purchasing
so many things,
you know,
because that's the type
of content
that we're making.
And then the other
side of it
where AliCoin
comes in is,
like,
the creator economy
options,
right?
And ownership
of our own content.
And so I feel like
that space
is actually left
quite unexplored.
I'm trying
with my social token
to create a community
of people of,
like,
you know,
in order to participate
in the Ali economy,
you have your AliCoin.
So the most successful
thing that I've,
you know,
done with it so far
is hosting my own
gaming tournaments.
And,
you know,
community-run
gaming tournaments
were something
that my community
always asked
me to do.
And so,
you know,
over the last two years
that I've had my social token,
you know,
people would participate
through having Ali.
And,
you know,
that's been a really
amazing experience
thus far.
And then,
you know,
at TwitchCon,
we hosted a party
for all of the Ali holders,
gave them all
free drinks,
free food,
and,
you know,
it really makes this,
like,
closer-knit portion
of my greater
following,
I suppose.
And it's been
kind of amazing
because it's
pretty autonomous
at this point.
Like,
I am not even the one
coming up with
some of the tournaments
now.
Like,
it's,
we have a full-blown
DAO where the community
votes on,
like,
hey,
what game do we want
to host?
There was,
like,
a full poker series,
you know,
that a community member
completely hosted
and funded,
you know,
through voting
through our DAO.
So I think,
you know,
I'm trying my best
through the use
of social tokens
to innovate in the space,
but I think,
you know,
whether it's NFTs
or various social media
platforms,
like,
you know,
obviously YouTube,
Twitch,
Instagram,
TikTok,
you know,
all of these
titans of the platforms
are what everybody
goes to right now,
but will there be
a version
that allows,
you know,
creators to own
their content more
and not sort of
be a slave to these,
you know,
Facebook or meta,
you know,
these big institutions.
And so I don't really
know exactly
what's going to happen,
but I feel like
the creator economy
in particular
has a lot of room
to grow.
Yeah,
I think also
with Web3 Games
incentives are aligned,
right?
like,
if you own assets
for a certain game
as a content creator,
you know,
if you're like,
you know,
if you own part
of those assets,
right,
I feel like
the developers
will support you
as much as possible,
right?
Because I know,
I'm not sure
if this is public
info or not,
but,
you know,
you had some pushback,
right,
with your tournament series
with a certain
huge publisher.
I'm not sure
if you can speak
about it,
but in Web3,
I think you get
a lot more support,
right?
Definitely,
yes.
Yes,
said large publisher
said no tournaments
can be posted
that have the prize pool
in anything crypto
related.
there's definitely
pushback there
and,
you know,
these Web3 games
have been incredibly
supportive of this
new form of support
for content creators
and so,
yeah,
there's a lot
of alignment there.
Same large publisher
that doesn't let you
trade any of the items
that you spend
hundreds of dollars
acquiring in Hearthstone.
Yes,
or sell your account
if you,
you know,
decide that you don't
want to play
the game anymore.
No account sharing
or anything.
the ownership
is the best.
Where the only
earnings opportunity
is coming top 16
in the quarterly majors
where if you come
in the 17th place,
you lose money
on the plane ticket cost.
yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah,
I think.
sorry,
Matt.
I didn't mean
to cut you off.
I just wanted to build
on Allie's point,
right?
What excites me
as a creator
is the benefits
that the technology,
you know,
provides and offers.
Allie just spoke
about,
you know,
AllieCoin.
But one of the ones
that I see happen often
that I think
is really cool
is games offering
creator skins
you know,
assets in game
that tap into
the creator's economies
or communities,
right?
The most recent one
that comes to mind
is CryptoStash
doing a skin
with Decentral Games
and they created
like this amazing,
you know,
CryptoStash agent
that,
you know,
you're going to see
running around
Decentraland,
which is just super,
super fun
and really cool.
And when you're able
to offer skins
like that
to your community,
it's just a fun,
cool thing
that doesn't really
exist in Web 2.
So things like that
are really cool.
You know,
we see it with PoApps,
right?
You can,
you know,
offer PoApps
in your streams
or at your different events
and it gives
your community,
your audience
something fun
to take away
and to remember
that event from.
The other thing
that I would add on to it
is that
because Web 3 gaming
is still so small
and we're all kind of,
we all kind of understand
that,
you know,
all boats rise
with the tide.
You spoke about it,
Matt.
The games are
incentivized
and aligned
with the creators
and their economies
or communities,
sorry.
So I had this conversation
or I overheard
this conversation
at GDC
with Seif
from Gala Games
was consulting
with a game there
that was talking about,
that was asking him
about strategies
on launching Web 2
versus Web 3
and he made
a really good point
that like,
you know,
you could launch Web 2
and just be another game
in a sea of games
or you could launch
in Web 3
and,
you know,
potentially be like
an award-winning game.
I thought that was
a really interesting point
and it speaks to,
you know,
Web 3 gaming
just being smaller
so these games
are willing to work
with the creators
quite a bit more
and you're able to
build those relationships
and grow together
over time.
I just got to quickly
shout out Wes and Mikey
in the chat.
I mean,
I've been streaming
for over a year now
and these guys
have been like,
I think Wes just
celebrated 11 months
on Twitch
so I appreciate that
and like,
that's an example of,
you know,
smaller creators
are able to build up
these communities
and these,
you know,
I don't want to say
supporters
but like these relationships
with their audiences
because we're kind of
all in this together
and you kind of have
that sentiment
so the technology
is really exciting.
Definitely
and I think 3XP
is going to be
an excellent opportunity
as well
not only for creators
to kind of like
network with themselves
but also with like
a lot of games
or even,
you know,
you know,
people that are
kind of like building,
right?
yeah,
I think it's going to be
a very exciting opportunity.
So now we're going to
shift the topic
a little bit
into,
you know,
more 3XP
like,
because I know
as far as I know
everyone here in the panel
is going to be there,
you know,
plus a lot more,
you know,
we've been announcing
speakers every day now,
some big ones to come
so stay tuned,
follow us on Twitter.
What are you guys
most looking forward
to experiencing
at 3XP?
And we'll go
in that same order
that we started.
Ali,
Michael,
Chris,
then I see Justin Spike
and then finally Michelle.
Sure,
yeah.
Just meeting people.
That's one of my favorite things
about conventions is,
you know,
normally I'm an introverted gamer
that doesn't go out
and socialize very much
but gaming conventions
are like the one time a year
where I,
you know,
actually go out
and try to make new connections
and I think in terms
of content creation,
like collaborations
are one of the best ways
to grow
and so,
you know,
getting to meet people
face-to-face
and learn them
and say,
hey,
I'd love to do,
you know,
play this game with you
or make this content with you
sounds really fun.
And also just to see
what games are,
you know,
coming to the table,
like,
you know,
sometimes it's a lot of talk,
you know,
on the internet
and,
you know,
when you're showcasing something
in person,
you can really make the call,
wow,
this is a team
that's really made something
super cool here.
yeah.
Michael?
Yeah,
what I'm most excited about
is just basically
having everyone come together,
especially like like-minded people
because like once we come together,
we're able to see
what everyone else is building
and then also find a way
to help one another as well.
The thing about like
what we always do
at like every one of our events
and kind of like
even other conferences as well
is try to find a way
to connect the community together
so that everyone has a voice
and also at the same time,
everyone can kind of
start building together.
You know,
instead of working
in separate silos,
we're now having an area
to where we can kind of say,
hey,
look,
I'm working on this vertical,
you're working on this vertical,
let's get together
and kind of create
something magical.
it's kind of like
the community aspect
of getting everyone,
all of the ones
that are building
within the industry
into one room.
Yeah,
everyone has different strengths,
right?
Chris?
Yeah,
I mean,
that's where
those big partnerships close
and we're going to have
a lot of VCs there,
so I know a lot of people
are raising right now,
but for me,
I'm definitely
most excited
about the esports arena.
I've been hyping this up
so much
and this Thursday,
we're going to
put out a press release
to finally put out
some more concrete details,
some visual renderings,
which I'm excited
to share with everyone,
like,
you know,
the actual professional
setup that's going on here
and then,
you know,
half this chat right now
is probably going to be there
playing games
or on stage
and I've been
talking about this idea
of Web 2
versus Web 3
as kind of like
a content series
or content
that we're going to have there,
right?
Allie,
Spike,
Icy,
you know,
Bryson,
who's not in here,
they're going to be on stage
and they're going to be
playing against
Team Liquid players,
potentially.
We're talking with Team Liquid
about some of their players coming.
People like
a certain doctor
you might have heard of
who's not very respectful
and Yasuo,
really big MOBA player.
so we're going to have
some heavy hitter
eSports pros
and Twitch
content creators
going head-to-head
against
a lot of the people here
and a lot of other
Web 3 content creators.
you definitely want to be there
if you want to meet people
face-to-face.
There's going to be a streaming area
if you guys want to go
and kind of stream
to your community
while you're there.
But yeah,
eSports Arena,
definitely the main focus for me.
Excellent.
Some alpha there.
Ali,
Icy,
Spike,
no pressure,
but Web 3 better win.
Icy,
what about you?
I mean,
just listening to Chris
is getting me so hyped up
and excited.
How can it not be
the eSports Arena?
You know,
shout out Jorge in the chat.
I always have his voice
in the back of my head
like,
what about the gaming?
We're gamers.
Like,
we just want to game.
So yeah,
that's 1000%
what I'm excited for.
I haven't met Spike
or Ali in real life yet.
So I'm super excited
to meet them.
Super excited
to see everybody.
And I mean,
just kudos to you guys,
you know,
and all your hard work
putting on 3XP.
The partnerships
and announcements
have been incredible
with the Central Con,
with WolvesDAO,
with Waypoint.
I mean,
I like,
I'm a little burnt out
from all these conferences.
I'm not going to lie,
but like 3XP is,
I can't wait.
And super excited
for all of it,
really.
Like,
it's a little sad
that it's only two days.
Like,
it seems like it could be
like a five-day conference.
I'm so excited about it.
Yeah,
exactly.
I know that the Central
is going to have
their own stage.
Justin,
if you want to speak
a little bit about that.
Yeah,
definitely,
definitely.
Yeah,
I mean,
for me,
you know,
back on,
just like quick mention
about the topics as well too.
For me,
what I love about these events
is really,
it's really the alpha
you get from just like
meeting the builders
and just seeing like
what's on the horizon,
right,
of projects there,
especially if they're all vetted.
Just seeing a curated
top quality
of creators,
builders,
and games coming up as well.
But yeah,
what you can expect
kind of like
from the Decentral stage,
you know,
we're going to bring in
some cool speakers
across the board.
I'd say like kind of
a mix between
entertainment,
metaverses,
brands,
Web2 brands,
you know,
we're trying to like
bridge that gap
outside of
Web3 only
so it's not just
an echo chamber,
right?
We don't want to have
the same exact speakers
or just have only
Web3,
pure Web3 people
as well.
So for us,
we're bringing in
people from like
Samsung Next,
some Korean
developer or publisher
should say like
come to us.
Some Chinese ones
as well like
Snails.
They do more like
traditional like
mobile gaming
in Asia as well.
And then other people
like head of
metaverse and Web3
at PWC,
JP Morgan,
metaverse.
So, you know,
some people might argue
like a little bit
centralized,
sure,
but, you know,
at least we are
bringing them into
the conversations.
We're still talking
to other players
like T-Mobile,
they're seeing
if they can,
they've been doing
a lot as well
in Web3 now,
trying to loop them
into the mix
if they can fit
the schedule.
But that's kind
of like the examples,
you know,
we want to have
kind of like the
big brains
of those organizations
and they might go
on stage and admit
that they're still
kind of learning
and what we're
going to ask them
to at least share
is kind of like
what they're looking
for,
who are they're
looking to work
with,
and even if
they're not like
fully out there yet
launching their
metaverse,
NMT and Web3
initiatives,
they can at least
start building
those relationships
with the builders
that are heavily
experienced in that
and that can leverage
their community,
their brand,
and their IP
as well,
potentially.
And I think that
will help
kind of move things
way further as well,
you know.
so yeah,
we're trying to
bring in some
really cool
programming,
a lot around
entertainment,
music,
NFTs,
and then we'll
leave the heavy
gaming to the
esports arena.
We'll still have
some gaming on
our stage as well
too.
But yeah,
we'll have some
fun variety
programming there
and I'm just
looking forward to
meeting everybody
in IRL.
And again,
I think this is
going to be
both educational
but also fun,
right?
Like I've been to
so many conferences
around where it's
just too stuffy,
it's just either
too maxy on a
certain chain
or they're too
maxy on a certain
topic.
You know,
I think that
we'll see that
3XP is going to
be like just
really fun.
I mean,
that's what it's
about.
We're having fun
playing games,
building together
and moving
things forward.
I think that
it's going to
be a much
more positive
vibes and
more realistic
vibes as well
as things are
going to be
much more
tangible now
and I think
each year
we're going to
see it become
more and more
of a reality
and again,
E3 is gone
so 3XP is
going to fill
that void
and it's
going to be
the new
level up,
exponential
level up of
E3 because I
don't see E3
coming back
anymore.
100%
and thank
you for
that.
By the way,
I love your
clonex.
Spike,
what about
you?
What are you
most excited
for,
Spike?
Can you guys
hear him?
He's so
excited,
he's speechless.
Yeah,
he's speechless.
We can jump
over to
Michelle while
Spike picks up
his mic.
I think he
rocked it.
Michelle,
what are you
most excited
for 3XP?
Yeah,
Spike,
I see you
actually unmuted
yourself.
Did you want
to speak
first?
Okay,
in the
meantime,
I'm most
excited about
bringing the
community under
one umbrella
because there
hasn't ever
been one
for chain
agnostic
Web3 gaming
ecosystems to
come together
in one place.
I'm most
excited about
this because
there have
been communities
that have
reached out
to us to
host meetups,
in-person
meetups for
the first
time within
gaming at
3XP.
Some to
shout out
the Brave
community,
so those
that are
holding
bat tokens
or hosting a
meetup at
3XP as
well as
DeFi
Kingdoms,
to name
a few.
Yeah,
so I'm
most excited
about that.
Shout out to
WolvesDAO and
also ETH Lizards
who will also
be hosting a
meetup and
side event at a
mansion in
Hollywood Hills.
That is
incredible.
Yeah,
we also will be
putting a lot of
info on that,
on all the
meetups and
side events,
100%,
because those
are, you know,
there's always a
ton of fun.
We have a
few minutes
left, so
instead of the
last question,
I think if
anyone in the
audience has a
question, please
comment it below
and I'll make
sure to ask it,
but I think
why don't we
just, you know,
whoever has
any final thoughts,
Chris, whatever
you want to
shout out, let
us know.
I saw Kate
jumped up on
a speaker.
As a speaker,
Kate, did you
want to say
anything?
What's up?
Hi, hi
everyone.
I'm super
excited about
3XP, of
course, and
yeah, really
excited about
like Web3
Gaming coming
into its own
this year and
beyond.
I mean, this
week we're
launching, yeah,
as some have
mentioned earlier,
Decrypt is
launching its
dedicated Web3
Gaming homepage
and Vertical
So if there's
a game that
you think that
needs to be
covered right
now that's
not on my
radar, like
shoot me an
email, my
inbox is open,
kate.decrypt.co,
like tell me
what games I
should be reviewing
and playing.
I mean, I
have like a
list of like
30 or 40
on my radar
already, but
I'm always
listening and
I want to
hear more and
I want to
sort of help
create a
community and
share news and
cover games and
showcase creators.
So all that
stuff is super
important and
yeah, sounds
good, super
excited and
thanks guys for
the space.
And is it
possible you may
be doing some
interviews on
site at
3XP?
Oh yes, there
are some plans
in the works
in fact.
Awesome.
Yeah, awesome.
Yeah, so
stay tuned.
Wink, wink.
Anyone else has
any final thoughts?
A couple of
minutes here.
Let me check the
questions while I
speak.
Erica has
said there were
games that
consensus last
year.
It was a small
section by the
gaming stage.
Yeah, I think
that's the
thing, right?
A small
section.
So I think
this is why we
need a dedicated
convention for
Web3 Gaming,
right?
Because we're
definitely, you
know, I think
gaming dwarves
any other
industry.
So yeah, I
think the need
is there.
Justin?
Yeah, when you
say a small
section, I have
pictures of it
literally, it's
like maybe like
five booths or
less and it was
like small and
that was combined
with their NFT
section as
well, FYI.
And, you
know, yeah, so
it was because
it was the
metaverse stage,
right?
And they had
G-Money and
other people
speaking and
then they had
the boots on
the corner and
the side and
there weren't
even full size
booths either.
They're like the
small like little
little science
project demo
table going on.
And so it
just wasn't, I
would call that
barely a highlight,
especially if there
was even a stage
there too.
So it's just
crazy.
But, you
know, that's
just not their
formula and
it's just, you
know, it's just
the more old
school traditional
blockchain people
adding gaming
into the layer.
They're just not
real gamers at
heart and I
think that's what
you'll see with
3XP has a
really strong
foundation and
just loving games
in general,
whether it be
Web 2, Web 3,
everything in
between as well.
And, yeah,
there'll be a
clear difference.
Yeah, so as
we wrap this
up, just want
to thank
everyone for
listening in.
Excited to see
you June 8th and
June 9th, whether
you're there
competing in the
esports arena,
trying new games,
you're at the
main stage,
listening to some
of these amazing
panels, you're
scavenging the
showroom floor,
completing quests,
discovering these
new games,
getting a first
look at them,
maybe Kate is
interviewing you,
really excited for
you to meet all
these influencers
here and others
that we're going
to announce.
The big announcement
for the arena will
be on Thursday.
So thank you
everyone for coming
out.
Yeah, and for
more information on
3XP, go to
3xp.gg.
All right,
everyone, have a
good day.
Bye-bye.
