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941 @ 3:33PM
Recorded: March 3, 2026 Duration: 1:11:48Space Recording
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Nimi Can you hear me? It's not a joke.
It's a joke.
Lots of drama.
Lots of drama.
Wow.
Everybody like, you can't do this, you can't do this.
I'm just a pigeon.
Give me a break.
I'm just a moon.
I am just a pigeon.
I'm just a pigeon.
I created a berm router and now that's a pigeon. I'm just a pigeon. I created a berm router and now that's a problem. Okay. Well,
what else you want me to do? I don't get it.
Anyways, I wanted to start it early because I don't have much time.
I need to go through quite a bit of stuff.
Oh, that's a chicken. Never mind.
Hope everybody's doing well.
Sun's out. First thing I want to do is go through this meme. Beep beep.
Beep beep.
Everybody's so clean on CD like it's a cold.
It's crazy to me alright
I actually want to start
by reading
a verse from the bible like we always do
I can't use by reading a verse from the Bible like we always do.
I can't use a pitched voice.
Joshua 1.9, this is my command.
Be strong and courageous.
Do not be afraid or discouraged,
for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.
Amazing verse.
Amazing verse.
And it actually applies to what the P the pigeon community is trying to do I mean we have to be strong and courageous in the face
of people who do not believe criticism is also a good thing I mentioned this
there's somebody commented about it and I'm a firm believer that criticism is a benefit.
You listen to those that criticize you,
not be discouraged by it, but listen to them.
You don't have to attack them back.
You can just listen
because sometimes they say something that's important
that you might've missed.
And that only comes if you aren't hotheaded,
don't have an ego,
and you can just sincerely take in what they're saying and then explain either back to them why they're wrong or maybe they say something that they're right about and you can change something that would have caused you to fail in the future.
So I think that's important.
Criticism is fantastic. And I think you want to find the critics. If you have a bunch of people around you that are just telling you,
you're doing it right, you're good, you're good. That's great. You need, I guess you need
encouragement, but at the same time, you need people that are going to say, this is why it's
wrong. And then, you know, you cover every single angle. It's a good thing.
We're back.
All right, meme contest.
Get the people up here.
get the people up here
let me do the meme contest first
i gotta find the link Can somebody in the community post the tweet of me with the meme contest where everybody
posted the memes.
We have 59 people in here. I got it. you
all right about some people up here what's going on guys
oh hey it's gone well we're about to go through the memes here.
So Matt, I'll be working in a short movie for the project.
Can you accept my message so I can send it when it's been ready made?
I did not understand a word you just said.
What?
I didn't understand anything you said i'll be working in a short movie for the project
can you accept for my message so i can't send it uh when it's been ready i have damaged you
roger that i will follow you back so you can send dm thank you okay Okay. Okay, bye. Have a great day.
Bye-bye.
Okay, thanks.
All right, I will answer that guy's DM.
All right, first meme I see is
made with a sword.
That's pretty good.
Which, um...
This meme down here,
of the Hawk, underscore five five with the uh...
Last Supper is kinda cool, but yeah that's so sacred you know
one bitcoin close to the video that's pretty good that's pretty funny
blackberry yeah dude what's crazy is i actually use a Blackberry. I can't believe people
don't use a Blackberry.
I still use a Blackberry.
The...
Oh, man.
Let's see.
How do I tell if they bottle it?
Can we get some votes up here?
So, like, this one...
Go look at the names.
I'm gonna post this.
I'm gonna repost this.
So...
It's pretty good.
I mean, it's got me fighting a bear we got 300 reach weeks but I think that's fine
I mean it's pretty cool but I think it I think it's fine
think they bought it
I think it's burning.
I just retweeted it.
I mean, do you guys think that's bought it?
Yeah, that's bought it for sure.
Yeah, so we got to...
That's a loser, man.
Last place.
That means sucks.
That's a loser.
Jim, Jim.
Let's see. this one's good.
It's got no likes or no retweets.
This guy just posted a video off his face on YouTube.
Actually no he didn't.
Solo. Facebook YouTube actually no he didn't included this solo
there's a lot there's a lot the one I did use one picture and then the guy was
like I didn't get paid. And I'm like, whoa, dude, look at this one.
I wish I could have this live.
So I could, because you guys can't see what I'm looking at.
There's a lot. All right, well, here's what we'll do. I'll retweet, I'll quote tweet the winners and ask them to post their address after this
phase.
There's a lot of good ones though.
Look at this one.
Kids are just smoking a snake battle.
There's nothing wrong with nicotine.
I don't know why whales, whales can't smoke because they're not. Oh, kids are just smoking a sick bell.
There's nothing wrong with nicotine.
I don't know why whales can't smoke because they own a bottle.
That's why the fuck you don't know.
Alright, let's see. We got a... I was thinking
I Anybody get any questions real quick?
Yes.
Can you hear me 941?
Yeah, go ahead.
First of all, love that bio, brother.
I got an amazing offer for you.
If you are interested, it's very legit.
And we're talking about an insane amount of money.
I'm talking about 40 40 grand that has been an offer sent for you
i'm just like basically a market group that won't make it and you're basically for you to reply to
him i can send you his uh and you can talk with him because he actually got the money set up for you if you're interested okay i mean regardless of the money what's the what's the like just do uh you have
30 seconds what's the option so basically uh we've been pushing non-stop this coin called uh pipkin
it's basically a better play for uh pippin the dev of pippin has also replied it's
a pin post on the x and he just wants to get you on board it that's basically it
okay i appreciate it um you can tell him thank you i will
You can tell him thank you.
I will look at his offer, I guess.
But is he okay with me just taking the 40k and just market buying Pigeon?
If you reply to him, it's called Kingstax.
So you can just figure out everything with him, bro.
All right.
Because the 40k is just going to be
market bought into pigeon so i mean i have no comment with that he just makes a decision i just wanted to come up here to grab your attention and you could talk with him free
feel free to pump your bags i understand that as well thank you you. I'll make a note of that. And if he wants to send me $40,000 to markup by Pigeon,
I'll definitely do it.
But everything's going to be aligned with Pigeon.
I can't do anything that's going to veer off of that.
I'm not switching off tokens or anything I'm building Pigeon. veer off of that. So, you know,
I'm not switching,
I'm not switching up
tokens or anything
I'm building Pigeon,
focused on Pigeon.
I appreciate it though.
Thank you for coming.
Are you having a good day today?
Sorry,
I cannot hear anything
because this Dylan guy
mic is too bad.
Yeah, your mic's a little squeaky, but...
Yeah, so as I said, brother, up to you.
You can talk with him.
I just want to grab your attention.
I love your project as well, bro.
Keep killing it.
And love and blessing to everyone, boys.
Yeah, thank you for coming up.
I appreciate it
all right um
let's see hey how's it going y'all good day good day to everyone all right how's it going good good good good good good yeah i mean i love that i love that 40k
um requirement i i mean i i remember you have you having said that to someone else
and i think that should just be a normal requirement if people want to collaborate with you
yeah if people want to collaborate i don't mind them um i don't mind the collaboration but the collaboration is going to hold the engine tremendously uh it's going to be
a 50k market buy handle god candle so anything other than that i don't know if i'm interested
but i appreciate people like wanting to collaborate i think that's great that means that uh the
community is growing and we're doing the things that are right. So I don't mind and I welcome people wanting to collaborate.
I think it's great.
I don't think that we should have enemies and this meme against this meme.
I really don't think getting into all that is worth it.
I think what I have is actually something that's novel
and I think it's worth pursuing.
So I'm not against any other meme.
I think we're all trying to do the same thing.
But again, I can't start promoting a meme for no reason.
But again, I can't start promoting a meme for no reason.
I usually, I don't even promote any shit coins.
So I'm Bitcoin only and, you know, no pigeon because I think this solution is going to work.
Yeah, man.
And you have all of our full support.
All of our full support. It's been a masterclass really.
Having seen this type of action in CT in,
wow, God knows how long.
It's amazing. It's a masterclass,
and I have my popcorn ready every single day, really.
You can check the GitHub.
I would encourage you to follow along.
I do have code that I'm actually working on,
and I encourage people to actually look at it
and audit that.
And I'm 100% willing to take all criticism.
I think that just helps you improve.
Of course.
Of course.
I have a cousin that's a PhD in mathematics.
I actually got him into Pigeon, and he's very – he's excited.
He's excited.
He's like a PhD in arithmetic.
PhD in Pigeon. Let's go. Hey. Yeah, dude. He's like a PhD in arithmetics. PhD in pigeon. Let's go.
Hey.
Yeah, dude. He went to FIU.
That's good, man.
I hope you're having a good day.
Hope family's good. Hope your work's doing well.
Hey, thank you. Thank you. Likewise. Likewise.
So, moving forward so with the meme thing i just realized like i was gonna do it live but there's like 500 memes i'm gonna have to
quote tweet the uh the one um they send them because not everybody's here anyways so it's kind of like i can just do it
live i wanted to do it live but i mean how's it going hey and i have uh
guys hear me uh can you guys hear me or am i rugging yeah yeah we hear you no i can all right
yeah thanks just wanted to come up and say hi to nine for one uh first of all shout out to you know
what you're doing with your coin and community uh but also for your consistency uh i've been
following you for you know for a really long time and, uh, obviously love your TA and your mindset.
Uh, but you know, uh, you, you're consistently showing up in the bearish.
And I think that tells a lot, uh, you know, trenches are slowly coming back and all that.
And I know people are looking for, you know, quick gains, uh, but you know, your mindset
around education, morals, and, you know, being consistent,
uh, again, like staying in your lane, I think that's really important, right? Uh, we all come
to a space looking, uh, for either support or community or to make money. And I think that we
have to realize that you have to stick to what works for you. And, uh, like, even though you,
you, you don't say directly, that's what what you do you stick to what's working for you
and uh so i appreciate that shout out to you you're a real one uh you know keep focused keep
building and you know i have a small bag i'm definitely waiting for hopefully i can get better
entry but just wanted to come up and give you your flowers and i appreciate everything you've
been doing uh since you know the bull cycle uh since you know the coin and all that brother for real i appreciate
it dang well that was incredibly nice of you to say um very well spoken to uh i'll give you a
follow back that um that was really nice man thank you i um i think my consistency with uh i i'm just i've been in bitcoin for a while so i know
bitcoin the best so when i'm when i'm trading it's mostly bitcoin anyway and my theory is
always comes back to bitcoin so my content is mostly consistent because that's the only way that, you know, over time you find a way that is successful for you.
And you have to stick to that.
So a lot of people jump from thing to thing, whatever's hot at the moment.
But the reality, if you stick to what you know best, you'll succeed.
So thank you, man man i appreciate it that was really
well really really great compliment i'm humbled and i did i've got a quick question
yeah go ahead sorry man how are you all right yeah so obviously there's a lot of things going on right now. I wanted to ask you, would you be able to kind of suggest or explain to the groups and stuff?
You know, a lot of people are getting a bit confused with the whole white whale situation, collaboration.
Everyone thinks if white whale comes in, then we're going to go to the moon and stuff, right?
Because they're looking at Whitewell chart and everything.
And I can see a lot of kind of good, bad, everything's going on.
But if Whitewell, for example, did collaborate, right?
What would have been the benefits of it?
And is there something we can't do as a community anyway without them?
Do you know what I mean? Because Pigeon itself is a project Do you know what I mean?
Because Pigeon itself is a project, you know what I mean?
I've been on it since 800K, I think market cap, right?
All the way to nine and a half million.
So we didn't need any support really from outside.
Because of some people suggested White Whale, all of a sudden that came in and that seems to be putting a bit of a negative effect on people's mind thinking oh
we're not going to go anywhere anymore like we did what we did from zero to nine million without
anybody's help so if you could just refresh people's mind that we don't need it what we have
here is enough to get us to whatever we want to go if that makes sense sorry i'm just i think i'm just messing up the
question a bit more yeah i was going to touch on it and i was actually i was actually going to go
through i haven't read his uh i read waywell's initial response um to it's basically he said
he's not going to collaborate with us right so yeah that's all he said really in a nutshell
but some people think um yeah because this project is not built for a collaboration anyway
pigeon itself is a project itself it was just people suggested right so him saying no doesn't mean we are going down the hill now. Do you know what I mean?
Right.
Absolutely.
That's correct.
So let me just kind of give a refresh on exactly everything that has happened.
So this initiative.
Hey, everyone.
How's it going?
Sorry.
Sorry.
Hey, Siobhan.
How are you doing?
So I'm still getting some problems with the browser. Keep going.
Okay. All right. Good to have you.
Refresh on the White Whale situation.
He made a tweet, initial tweet, and basically it was a negative one about the project.
He didn't name Pigeon, but it was obviously about Pigeon.
That was when we were around, you know, we were trending, doing really well. And so I commented
back, you know, if you want to critique, then just go ahead and just critique it and name it.
You don't have to, I'm not afraid of
conversation and discussion. I think it's healthy. I think that's what people need to do,
is have conversation. And so eventually I was able to get him into a conversation
by pointing it out. And I actually think he might think otherwise, but I actually think
I actually think he might think otherwise, but I actually think he's very intelligent.
I think he's very smart.
So having him go down and summarize all my tweets, and I don't know if he had AI audit
my code or not, but having him speak on liquidity and the issues that he believes there is, is
a benefit to me.
And I think that's completely a great idea to have someone that, you know, has a project that went to 100, I don't know what it went to, 140 million.
I think it was 200 million at one point.
Yeah, so it's down quite a bit, like 80%, but so is the market.
And having a discussion with him about what my vision is versus his
is something that I thought would be valuable for everyone.
And the initial conflict that everybody's sticking to
is me just saying, hey, if you wanna talk about Pidgin,
just say Pidgin.
You don't have to like dance around it.
And then add a tweet about how you treated it.
But it was just like, just say it
and we can have a conversation about it and I can explain it. So having read his full initial tweet,
I did tweet out one thing that he was talking about the terminals not routing through the burn router, which is true in a sense. He's correct in that. But even in Meteora's documents, it's, and they encourage people to do what I'm doing.
Create custom DAI YouTube pools. And when you have a liquidity pool that you're going to anchor a bunch of supply, which I have, 13%, and I lock it and then walk away.
That's gonna be anything that anybody else could do.
My pool will be the default.
So the reason I put in a 30 day change
is because if I didn't and something went wrong,
then it's over.
And I don't want that to happen.
So you have to have like a backup.
You can't just like, that's just like a simple,
that's a, the 30-day migration is like there just in case
something happens.
But I have 13% of the supply.
If I lock it into the pool,
it's going to be the deepest pool that anybody can ever create.
Because nobody else has their 2%.
And our distribution is really healthy.
One last thing.
Sorry to interrupt in the middle.
When I looked at Whitewell, obviously, I'm not the tech guy, man.
I'm a day trader, you know what I mean, with the NASDAQ and stuff.
And I do invest in mimco
and whenever i like so pigeon was something cool i like so i think yesterday i blasted about 38
sol or something on it and white whales i think they have 58 i think control
on one of the wallets like they're controlling 58 so obviously that's four five times more than yours isn't it
so they should have more control over the price fluctuations because right now we are no close to
them anyway so we're going to see more fluctuation aren't we really on buy and sales compared to them
so obviously over time yeah he's so not only do they have 58 in one wallet but i know it's actually like
60 there's also there was also some other things like you know a 50 candle crash that people were
saying was a liquidity of bill i don't want to i'm going to avoid attacking like it's i don't want to, I'm going to avoid attacking. Like it's, I don't think what he's doing is wrong. I understand that, you know,
having a treasury buyback program is all good and well. And, you know,
recycling your profits from trading into the coin is all good and well,
but that all relies on, on a person succeeding. Like if I did that,
I've thought about doing that myself and like saying, Hey,
I'll just trade on Jupiter.
And, you know, the profits I make, I'll just pump them into pigeon.
That would be great.
But what happens when I make a mistake eventually?
I mean, like everybody would just be trusting that I'm like the greatest trader in the world.
the greatest trader in the world.
And I don't think that's a sustainable model.
And I don't think that's a sustainable model.
I think a sustainable model is creating a deflationary mechanism that lives where trading happens.
I mean, Bitcoin put it at the monetary level, but for meme coins, if we have it at the bid and ask,
if we have those physics that are put right there,
I think names like go crazy.
And I think this idea is not something to help.
So Meteora, I'll just mention,
like Meteora is like, yeah, this hasn't been done,
but they didn't tell me it was impossible.
It's going to take a lot of work,
but I think that it's worth pursuing.
So, you know. Yeah, i didn't mean to say anything bad about white whale anyway holding 68 percent my basically the whole
conversation was everyone's got their own way of doing things right he's holding 60 percent he's
got his own system his own idea of taking his project to whatever he wants to.
And you are doing your own thing.
Even if we look at probably SPX 6900, you went to, I think like 2 billions.
So they've got their own thing going on with the community as well, isn't it?
So end of the story, like we don't have to follow one man's structure or a system.
You can create your own thing like what you're doing now
this is this is completely different this is uh you know i i took this token over and then i said
well means only have they have hype they have narrative they have the personality they have my
reputation they have all those things but what if i actually anchored a product? Like what if I built something that made this sustainable to where I could just lock a key, just throw away my supply and let the market handle the rest and not have to have me and my reputation on Twitter constantly affecting the price.
Eventually, you have to walk away and create something better than you left it.
And that's what I'm trying to do.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I think that's great to do.
I think the space itself encourages that.
That's what the whole space is built around. It's like open source.
I mean, you know, I had the code not on GitHub for a while. I was actually working on something
like this for a little while, and then this token dropped into my lap, and I said, well,
might as well do it. A lot of lot of people are like well it's not going
to work because pump farm uses the standard to be 2022 but that's fine there's workarounds
with that you don't have to you don't like you can you can still work around that it's not the
end of the world so just because it was launched by punk farm doesn't mean
you can't create a mechanism that happens after the token is launched and migration is 100 normal
and everybody does it so yeah that's what i mean man you you know your stuff like people like me
i will never comment because this is not my field
i know nothing about technical when it comes to mechanism and all of that and half of the people
believe me don't even know nothing about it you just want to go and comment and just put film
really put more petrol into the fire not knowledgeable too but i still need your
conversation with white whale and obviously
both of you are very knowledgeable for sure let me actually pull up his tweet because
i briefly briefly uh read it but let me pull up his tweet and let me just go through it.
Okay, so this is the tweet that he wrote in response.
It's not that long to my article, Hold My Cigar, which cigars I rarely smoke.
I smoke on occasion.
Celebration, I don't think 15 is bad.
I think it's good for you. I don't drink alcohol so there's over a year but dude how can you not smoke when you are trading meme coin
man that thing messes with your brain i used to i used to look i just think um not doing drugs and
you can't be normal if you're trading Mincoin without smoking stuff.
That shit, that chart, it will take the brain out of you.
I'm probably not normal.
But let me go through this real quick and get this out of the way.
Because there are some things he said in here that I want to address.
He made one, two, three,
I don't know, three, four, I see like five, six.
Oh, that's funny. Oh, he brought up Swift and XRP. I know a lot about that because I bought
change like 10 cents. That's interesting. Okay, so I'm breezing through this. All right.
All right, let's start with the chances of Meteor giving their full support is highly unlikely.
Well, I don't need them to give me full support. That's what's great about the space is that you can build stuff and plug it in.
Nothing's stopping me from deploying anything.
Meteora, I don't need their approval and nobody does.
They really want people to build using their platform and the tools that they have developed.
So that's not a problem.
Let's go with...
This is just an idea. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, that's... I mean, that's not true.
That's not true because I have 700 lines of code in the GitHub.
So, I mean, it defines everything.
So he said, despite some code being written, this idea, well, the only thing that separates code on GitHub from codon solana is deploying it but with deploying it you also have to go through
audits so i'm not gonna just gonna deploy something without the audits that would be irresponsible
so i think that's a little bit dishonest
I think that's a little bit dishonest.
But it's okay.
It's just because of...
That's what I mean.
This post was a fancy way of saying that it's not going to work.
But he didn't say it directly.
But there is like a little hint.
That's what I didn't like about White Whale, basically, in a way.
And he didn't have to put at the bottom saying,
we're not going to
collaborate it's not like it was a part of the plan anyway she just left it saying do you know
what we'll see what we can do or whatever you know what i mean that's just yeah yeah for sure
um i'm gonna run i'm gonna run if i just have the floor for
a minute here i'm just going to run through all this
And explain it
You know
I'm reading the media
Personally I would say leave it alone
It's just going to add more
Fume to the fire really
Tomorrow day after everyone's going to forget
About it really
More you talk he's going to talk back and everyone's just going to
Create more nonsense Sometimes it's gonna talk back and everyone's just gonna create more nonsense
sometimes it's just no it's important it's important that people understand what a building so
you don't mind i'm just gonna go ahead uh so you know he he says so about the transport transporting
or about the terminals routing the trades through the burner.
I covered that a little bit with the liquidity
and also I'd like to say that the goal is never 100%
of trades going through the router.
The goal is that the terminal integration is set
as the default cell path, you know, whether that's Photon,
Axion, Phantom, Jupiter, and that's going to be where the deepest liquidity is, which
I don't know if there are people who don't know why, so I have a migration callback 30
days.
So also you can partner with the terminals. Like if I went to Jupiter and I said
if you use this burn router then you know you get a slice of this percentage or maybe there could be a financial incentive to use to use that terminal
as well so um that that is crazy um one last thing from his post on his post he said you know about
the burn mechanism right he's um if you read it the way he put it it looks like um it's like it's some sort of scamming
without the investor knowing that he's getting charged or something for the burn
secret burn or whatever the word he used it's on the post it looked like it's like you're doing
something illegal you know secret burn and stuff that looked very
negative if you just read that phrase i think that's what's going to catch a lot of people
thinking you're doing something dodgy behind the scene
yeah no it's not there the people are still gonna get the solana that they would normally get i don't
little salon that they would normally get. I don't, I haven't gotten down that far, but
um let me just go back to what I was reading. My thought process here. Um the,
this is like liquidity is fragmented, it exists on Radium, Orca, you can't predict where that is.
ADM, ORCA.
You can't predict where that is.
Okay.
So that's the same thing.
I already covered that.
Jupiter simulates the full transaction path.
The burn fee is visible.
It will affect that best execution logging.
So this is the strongest point that he actually makes,
which I'll give him credit for actually bringing this up.
That's actually a good point
that's a strong point so he is correct jupiter signates the full transaction paths um including
custom routers so if the burn router which is what i mentioned about you go to the terminal
itself isn't directly isn't registered directly
as Jupiter route, Jupiter sees the full cost,
including the 1.5% rent contribution
and routes around it for better execution answers.
So yeah, that's a good point, but that's why,
a Jupiter route is not the strategy and it was
never intended to be it's terminal integration and so you know who's to
say where pigeon is most likely gonna be traded you can't predict terminals are
not aggregators either.
He's definitely smart though. He also knows his shit, which is good.
Well, terminals aren't aggregators.
They don't, terminals don't run on best execution algorithms that automatically find the cheapest
path. They have default settings, so and those default settings are what the users follow. So
if a terminal sets the burn route as the default cell path for pigeon then the cells are going to go through it because it's what the interface does by default so we kind of spent four paragraphs
checking a strategy that i never proposed we kind of made it up uh to be honest which is uh totally
fine i'm not saying this wrong for doing so i think it's great criticism but that after reading that
criticism, but that after reading that, he created something like, I don't know if he didn't read my GitHub code or what, but he created something like it wasn't ever intended to be. If it somehow fools Jupyter users would complain about getting one to 2% less than quoted.
Jupyter has delisted routes for this.
Yeah, which is why again, the plan is not to register as a Jupyter route.
We're not going to do that. That's why terminal integration is correct and not aggregator registration. He's confusing terminal integration with aggregator registration.
with aggregator registration.
And I wish, I might have to make a tweet about that
just so that everybody understands.
Because a lot of this, people don't fully understand what,
you know, like they just read this and be like,
oh, that's true.
Well, there's terminal integration
and then there's aggregator registration.
Jupyter is an aggregator.
Jupyter is a phenomenal product, I love it.
Says further down, let's see, this is a hidden tap on sellers. It conflicts with free and transparent markets. So no, it doesn't. This actually is like creates the most free market that there is.
And I mean, it's a lot.
The code is public on GitHub.
It's open source, MIT license.
It's mostly like I need to have it audited.
And usually you're gonna go through three audits.
Every line is there,
anyone with an internet connection, including him.
I don't know why he didn't have Grok do this,
but let me tell you what a hidden tax is.
A hidden tax is when 57% of supply is dumped
and a 45% of the tokens value is taken out in one candle.
That's a hidden tax.
When you have to trust one person, one reputation,
one entire pin and the whole entire name is uphold
by a single individual, that's the hidden tax.
They wake up, they have a bad day.
I mean, nothing should be able to rely on that. That's the hidden task. They wake up, they have a bad day. I mean, nothing should be able to rely on that.
That's the hidden task.
And that's why when I deploy this,
my supply is gonna be gone.
It's gonna be, I'm gonna lock the key,
throw away the supply and time then,
it's gonna be enjoyable to watch vision
and see how it works
but once it's deployed but my supply is for the for the uh for the depth of the liquidity
that's what my supplies because without that what i'm building is that's the other thing people need
to realize my supply that i have I can't the reason
I'm I continue to buy supply is so that cool when the the pool is launched that it has the most
liquidity so that's why I needed most of the supply but not wrong I've seen most traders
come in with the liquidity.
If they don't see about above 100k 200k liquidity,
people don't like to top blast like some of the big players.
So let me comment on this ripple, replacing swift,
great marketing doesn't work in reality.
Well, the bar is at zero because nobody's actually tried what I'm doing.
So the code is on GitHub. Everybody can look at it. So he's not like... Nobody can say
it's not going to work. It's like with anything that somebody tries new there's always is there's
always going to be criticism that it's not going to work until it does you know what happens when
it does um that's the point the xrp replacing swift is funny to me because when I bought Chainlink at 10 cents back in 17 when I was posting on 4chan and everything that's
we we took that um we took the swift angle and we said that Chainlink was going to replace swift
and um we kind of we were pushing that I was pushing I was pushing that. And that was a long time ago. That was almost 10 years now.
But I mean, Chainlink and XRP have spent over a decade promising to replace Swift.
And they obviously have not.
So, you know, Pigeon Rounder, it has 800 lines of code.
I'm still creating the rest of it, but it's fun.
So, I mean, that just is like, that was just kind of like a stab.
That was kind of a jab that I think is funny just because of my
my past swift chain move shilling that I used to do when I was younger but um yeah that's not
all awesome so he really I mean really everything in here is
really everything in here is, it's a lot of his biggest thing that he didn't understand is
is the terminal integration versus aggregator integration. That is the biggest thing that he
didn't understand. And then the thing that I tweeted about. So I just went through everything he said um hopefully you guys shed a lot sheds light on
what i'm building and what i'm trying to do so you do what you gotta do my friend
let's say it doesn't work what's the worst could happen are we gonna go to zero
probably not but what if it works you are witnessing something brand new in this space and you are a part of it right very simple as that yeah i'm gonna bring some savant up
um trading king pan thank you for your commentary and stepping up here and speaking. Really appreciate it.
And I agree with your comments as well.
So thank you.
Have a great day.
Thanks, buddy.
Thanks for the time.
Hey, everyone.
How's it going?
Savant.
How are you doing, brother?
Yeah.
Savant, we'll get...
I got two.
I only have about 15 minutes left.
Let me give you the floor, Savant.
Yeah, I don't want to hug the mic for long.
I just want to say a couple of things for what's happening this week.
I'm going to start with, this is really important.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
I don't want to think of anything as a top or as a low,
especially as a price.
I don't care about the price.
I'm completely detached from any motion
since Pigeon left the first three days.
What I want to say is what's been going on
between you and YWO right now
is an eye-opening experience
for not only the average trader,
but even more experienced people in the community
that have been around for more years. How clueless and subpar 99 of the devs are okay because you see people casually
talking about one of the most important and reasonably the most efficient and sustainable
way to make money that's op if anyone's listening here if there's one advice you should have from whatever
has been happening this week is study the lps that's the most important part um the real problem
that comes from all this in my eyes is that there's a broken system that's that's the the
the golden line that's where i'm standing because crypto is like society nothing changes it's us
behind the screen the same thing so by creating bridges and bringing more obstacles in a way
that's what the elitist agenda wants so the uh the whole uh the whole system keeps working and
flowing and ripping from the society because that's that's what's happening that's how i see it it's not rocket science is a cycle repeating on different levels
we might go to mars the same thing is going to happen to mars in 10 12 years the same thing
is not going to rotate from that it's as much of a sociology as it is uh crypto an economy
a sociology as it is uh crypto an economy but creating wars around the community because the
the i think the question sorry allow me that was dumb so i don't i don't even care about the tech
nine i respect what you're doing but i like the me more than that i will ever like the tech
i'm gonna be completely honest you might You might create the most groundbreaking thing right now.
I like the Pigeon anymore.
Allow me to say that.
Well, I think that standing for ethics, principles,
morals, truth in people with respect, accepting criticism,
not attacking other means,
and just living out the life that I believe in my heart and in my faith,
not only in real life, but also on the internet,
which is something that has come to mind recently.
something that has come to mind recently is you can't just live your real life one way
and then online a different, just be the same person and treat people the same with respect.
There's people on the other side of, you know, their anonymous handle. And I think having those ethics and pushables and that's what
the Pigeon stands for.
So I think that in itself and having a community around that can move the space forward even
without the tech.
Exactly.
And that's how I perceive the tech from you.
What I see from you,
and that's what makes me grateful
for being in this journey,
is that I see you trying to detach
your whole ego from pigeon
and trying to make pigeon bigger than you,
bigger than us.
The vision is bigger.
That's how great things come into life.
Thinking bigger. putting your ego aside is something most people never do in their
life and that's how I perceive the tech thing about pigeon in a project you're
trying to detach the person behind the vision and let the vision fly wherever it is. You got to put away your ego.
Ego gets you nowhere in life. You can pretend that everything's great, but life is difficult.
Life is hard and sometimes people just need to have conversations and talk. That's why I want to do more space is just to give people, you know, to them.
I'll talk and have conversations.
I don't mind.
I'll answer technical questions.
I'll answer questions about life, my faith, whatever it is.
I'll try to be more space.
But, yeah, I think you're 100% right.
And the bird rattles are 100% me trying to remove myself as a trust vector.
I don't want people to put their trust in me, even though I have to stand behind my words, not only for myself, but before God.
And that's the humongous burden.
And the best way for me to stand on those words
is to build something that allows it to do it autonomously.
And I pray for the day that I can take the supply and lock it away and burn the cube.
And then I can, you know, be the biggest promoter that I possibly can for, you know, ethics and
values. And maybe this is bigger than it will turn out to be something bigger than just a token.
Maybe this is bigger than it will turn out to be something bigger than just a token.
Because I never know what God's plans are.
It could be something much bigger.
But I want to continue focusing on treating people with respect, accepting their criticism, and working hard and trying to figure out a problem that nobody has heard.
Thank you, Savant, for coming up here and saying all that.
I'm happy this is recorded.
I'm happy for everything that you've done in the community with the group.
Savant, for anybody that doesn't know him,
he's been somebody that has really
taken a leadership role
in, you know,
assigning like mods
and governing the scan links and just making sure that the vision stays on point.
And the vision that he just laid out is exactly the vision that I want for the pigeon Canadian.
I have to be the main leader in the way that I act as well.
in the way that I act as well.
And I have to lead by example and, you know, not attack and stuff like that.
So, but Savant, thank you so much for all the work that you've done so far.
Thank you, brother.
Big guy.
Oh, my bad.
Big dead guy.
How are we doing?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you. All right, perfect. oh my bad take that back how we doing can you hear me yeah i can all right perfect yeah i uh i just wanted to see if you did even read much of that
or if you had any questions so i've read what i could before the space um but i wanted to
what I could before the spills.
But I wanted to see if you wanted to hop on
to tell you that what I did read
was a very interesting game theory.
I can tell you not only grasp,
I could tell you, you grasp game theory.
And I wanted to thank you for sending me the message.
I saw that you bumped it a few times
and I just get a lot of DMs
and I wanted to just thank you from my own voice
and tell you that I'm gonna look into it and read it.
And if you wouldn't mind,
I can tell that you understand anything.
I would love to shoot over some of my ideas when I read your
stuff back to you and maybe we can have a discussion and conversation about it. I think
it would be great for the pigeon community. I think you're smart. I appreciate it. I've kind of been working on that for a bit on and off for the better part of like a year.
Idea was maybe even turned into like a launch pad of some sort to, you know, for other people to utilize that tech.
But yeah, definitely if you want to just read it over and send me any notes back that you have on that, that's awesome.
That's what I saw when I breezed over it.
I was like, this is a launchpad protocol.
And eventually, my bigger vision is for eventually Pigeon to become a new launchpad,
and one that anchors into what the Pigeon community stands for,
ethics and morals and principles of the non-extracting ethos.
But I think you're smart.
I just wanted to pull you up.
I'm happy that you joined the space
that I could tell you thank you.
And I really appreciate it.
I will be getting back to you in my messages.
I am following you back.
And that's the other thing. I was following you. And so I must have been following you back and that's the other thing i was following you
and uh so you i must have been following you for a while
but thanks man i will get back to you with uh what i think and um hopefully you'll be interested
in helping uh if i haven't had any ideas i could shoot them over to you as well
hoping if I have any ideas, I could shoot them over to you as well.
Awesome, man. I appreciate it.
I wouldn't mind helping you at all and giving my input.
Yeah, and I have a dev as well, potentially, or I've had one.
We just never really went fully with the plan
but um so there's that as well um and he's done work on solana for
four or five years now so perfect that's awesome yeah i'm all for I'm all for that. Thank you, man. I'm going to look at your stuff. It's going to be it first. You got to put it above work
and 100% agree with three pillars,
God, family, and work.
And I think that's what you should live by.
That's the way that I was raised and taught me.
I think that those in that order
is a good way to live.
I got until 430.
I'm going to pull up anybody that has any quick questions,
and then we'll wrap it up.
I appreciate you, man. I'm going to hop out of here yeah I'll be around whenever yeah I'll be in touch
I'll be in touch thanks man have a good one um Dave do you have anything um
Savant you got anything else I think that we can say that what I'm trying to do is like we were talking about it in
the mod group.
Maybe in the next two days we can, we might do another space, more casual.
We're going to launch maybe a weekly space that we, the vlog can chill in.
We'll see how that goes nothing special just gonna hang out in
yeah yeah i've been um my head's been down and in rust so i've been uh savannah going to be
kind of uh looking out and uh being a leader and uh you're somebody that definitely has morals and I think so I'm pretty sure that a weekly space would be great.
When I do spaces, I definitely like to keep them conversation-like and in this space I haven't been able to ask people about how they're doing, how their life is going.
I just don't have that much time today, but for a weekly space,
I would love to have a chill weekly discussion.
So that'd be awesome.
Yeah, so we'll try and implement that.
Overall-
Other updates, Savant,
that you can give
the community?
Sorry, I didn't hear you.
Is there any other updates
that
you can kind of summarize or give
for the community?
There's a lot of noise
right now. There's a lot of people that
are trying to connect,
but what we should follow in your path is be careful who we engage with.
Because right now we're forming a really powerful community that shows up daily with nothing but good in their heart.
And a lot of people trying to get off of that and utilize the engagement as farm or whatever so we're
mostly um gotta categorize what's really accessible and approachable in the way that we're doing
things so that's what we're trying to do right now i think we're mostly putting out fires
the lighting up the memes are unbelievable the the people who are going up the names are
insane um i think that the palette that you said in the colors and i'm i'm really uh
deep into arts in general i mean yeah, yeah, I dropped a color palette.
Those are awesome.
I mean, it's awesome.
I love it.
I think we're doing a great job.
I mean, I'm getting better.
Like Duke said today,
Duke said today that he's becoming a new beast with, with
prom.
We're becoming prominent engineers.
Like we're getting better ourselves with all of this.
Yeah.
And what I've always thought really, I mean, yeah, true.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
The only unbeatable metric, the only thing that can be fixed in any chart,
like you can fix everything, transactions, volume holders, everything is fixable.
The only thing that you can fix and you have to grow genuinely as the community.
And where all I can say is like,
I'm proud of myself for being a member of this community.
That's all.
I'm grateful for this
journey that we're closing into a month soon amazing i'm happy to log into x and
ignore all the noise around trying to extract me from my money that i work for and
i gotta have a good time with good people yeah that's awesome it's a totally uh change of pace and uh i'm
enjoying working on um on on the rust code that i'm doing even though um it's been a little bit
it's crazy because in life i go through these phases of you know um poker and wanting to be the best at that and then coding and then trading.
And each time you pick up something, you become a little bit better.
So I'm kind of going back in time a little bit.
But with all the tools that we have available now, it makes my sloppy mess a little bit
cleaner and I can kind of clean it up.
But the memes are
unbelievable I saw Xeno I don't know I call him Gino that's awesome it's unbelievable
all the mods are great man I'm gonna close it up but I just want to say
thank you to everybody that joined
and I hope it was informative
I hope that
I hope you took something away
from this and learned something
and definitely tune in
we'll check with Savant
and we'll try to get a weekly space going
where we just talk about casual stuff
life and everything.
And that's the best format, having conversations with people.
And our community is strong.
We're growing.
I think we got like 2.3 people in the columns now, which is organic.
The dev that initially launched Pigeon, he set up a community and botted it.
And that was still fake.
It had like 6K members.
This one's all organic.
And this kind of feels like a grassroots movement that just continues to grow.
to grow and we're just going to continue to stand our ground work hard um we're going to continue
And we're just going to continue to stand our ground, work hard.
to be the nicest community on ct that has you know principles and stands behind what we say and
um we're going to go from there so i appreciate it thanks everybody for coming appreciate you brother
