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A decentralized Slack is here 💬 | @AlterDapp x @axvdex
Recorded: Nov. 1, 2023 Duration: 0:32:49Space Recording
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or your investment strategy against other competitors
or you're speaking with auditors
and auditors are sharing you on our Slack,
the audit report,
which is something that I have experienced myself.
So it's kind of like, yeah,
interesting that people are like trusting everything
while there isn't any trust actually.
Yeah, you had a great point there.
Everything's kind of built on trust right now,
but really what we need is something private.
And the internet has been out for a lot of years now
and there hasn't really been this one kind of decentralized place
where everyone can just talk
and everything is private and secure.
And I think what you guys are doing at Altar is amazing.
So I'd love to see you guys kind of grow
and become something really big within the near future.
So in saying that,
right now in the current iteration of Altar,
how many users have you seen kind of active
in using the platform in its current iteration?
Yeah, so far several hundreds of active users actually,
which kind of like surprises me
because we don't see any much activity
or the general public kind of like channel.
So that means there's somebody who is actually like using
for privacy purposes the solution.
But when it comes to kind of like total registrations,
it's between 12,000 and 14,000.
And that's been the majority coming from,
I would say, Cosmos ecosystem
because the way we have developed is it's still hard to adopt.
And that's why one of the like primarily things
will be to improve the registration logging process,
which is already being in development stage.
So just to adopt it in a much more easier way
and also to bring it out to the EVM based of users.
And that's also another plan to expand the user base.
Amazing.
And so what do you guys kind of like intend to grow into?
Are you trying to look to grow into a Slack Lite suite?
And how would that like look like on the Altra network?
Yeah, thanks.
So when it comes kind of like the problems
that we have currently is with the communications
that Web3 space itself likes private on-chain
or private communications platform with finances
and also different features that are meant
for different communities.
And when we see also some different other problems
like data is not secured,
Discord and Telegram services are being hijacked and spammed.
And also when it comes to accessibility of tools,
like this is where most of the existing communications
platforms don't offer is the Web3 tooling as well
and specialized features for them.
Because being productive means you have all the features you need,
but of course you're always going to need to listen to the user base.
So there will be different kind of like setups
for the communication settings,
like for Web3 developers, for validators, for traders,
for DAOs, for content creators.
And yeah, in general, like we want to focus on seamless user experience,
which is a walletless approach.
And also it is meant for everyone to access with the communications.
So a big differential, of course, is the price aspect
and also Web3 tooling aspect with integration.
So that's how our focus will be always.
And when it comes to impacting the roadmap,
there will be a specialized portal for every single user and project
to just submit what they need to have the most.
And it will be then carefully implemented into the sprint
from the beginning of submission up till integration development,
two to four weeks.
So that's something that's like not all of these applications
like Discord or Telegram could implement easily.
So we want to make it more productive,
more goal-oriented application for every user.
Amazing.
And so why should teams and communities migrate to Altar?
If a company came to you and said,
pitch me Altar, why should we use you guys instead of Slack?
What are you going to tell them?
Well, first of all, of course,
people see privacy as a secondary value,
but like first one, much, much cheaper.
You can do much more stuff
and also much more customizable things will be available.
So because customization and being flexible on the user needs
and the pricing is like the biggest parts
that every single project is like looking for,
we see always the increasing cost for Slack,
increasing cost for G Suite,
because every single like traditional company or Web3,
even teams, what they use is usually G Suite or Slack.
Like that's the main two things I've seen.
And sometimes like Telegram and seeing those paid solutions.
I mean, it's quite expensive to be fair,
especially if you are a startup and you want to have kind of like a nice pricing.
So in a way that there will be improved subscription model.
Also, you'll need to buy a token and bond it.
So it will be kind of like a one-time payment in a way to basically lock it in.
And then for 12 months, you're going to have access to it.
And then the pricing will be released next week.
And then the implementation will also come afterwards.
So the idea is that you pay for your seat for a year for your team member,
which is nice.
And you need to kind of like bond in the token.
And that will also make it super much more cheaper for every single team to have this access.
But at the same time, we have really nice utility in locking up everything from the token side.
So and then one thing is that once we reach a certain user account,
then we decrease a bit of the subscription price.
So people are more effective to the platform.
Yeah, that's an amazing pitch.
I mean, if I was a company, you already saw me on Altar.
So I have a few questions for Eric and Ethan.
So how can AstroVault help Altar?
Yeah, so we're, you guys have noticed from our first couple listings,
we prioritize like Jackal, DeCenter, Altar.
Like we're really working on getting actual businesses.
Like things that have real companies that are really monetizable,
that are embodying the vision of Web3 and trying to unite them however we can
to really make this push of not just like we can support your liquidity,
but we can also help give you guys business.
We can help drive you guys clients and also networking them together.
Like DeCenter is better if they integrate Jackal and Altar.
Altar can reach more people that way.
And then DeCenter has private communication platforms
where now they have censorship-resistant speech, which nobody else can offer.
So we're really just trying to help all these companies grow.
And the reason we should always do that is because by the model of our DEX,
we are actively invested in all of these companies, literally by earning their tokens.
So Altar needs better liquidity provision hosting.
So we're happy to host their liquidity.
And we earn from the trading revenue.
And then by being paired against XArch, we're earning Arch from that liquidity side.
So we can actually offer boosted APRs as soon as our token goes live for them.
But now we can offer what Altar creates for services to our clients.
We can have things like a troll box that comes in with probably private access points.
Like I mentioned, we are already using Altar as our own company for things that need to stay private.
We're not trying to get our email servers hacked like Hillary.
And everyone says like, oh, well, ProtonMail is private.
Like, no, they're not.
Signal is private, like, somewhat, but not provably.
ProtonMail was, again, you know, supposed to be provably private until they proved that they weren't.
Like, how long can you really trust these things?
There's only one communication system that is provably private,
that provably and perpetually offers censorship-resistant free speech.
And, I mean, you can't have ownership of data.
You can't have everything that crypto says they want as their ethos without censorship-resistant speech.
And Altar is the only thing that offers that.
And so with it, like, existing right now, they've had, what, like 20,000 users, Oscar?
I don't know if you have that number on hand.
But with everything it can grow out to be, where it's not just sending attachments and messages and chats,
but can also interface and have video calls.
Like, everything that they have on their roadmap that's really ambitious,
but their team's proven that they can ship.
It really is a heck of an opportunity for us as an application to invest in them at this stage
and help them get where they can go.
100%.
I would also suggest that we can use their services and their product for a whole lot of other uses ourselves as well.
Like, one of the things that we've talked about internally about providing on the decks
is, like, a decentralized customer service space where users of the platform can come on
and if they have issues right there from the dashboard,
they can just open up a support ticket and get help right there on the platform.
Such a thing would need to be secured by something like Altar
that provides privacy on the transactions and questions
so that these things aren't being recorded by outside parties.
That's one use case that we've highlighted as a potential in the future as well.
Yeah, you talked about a couple of ways of how AstroVault can integrate Altar onto the platform.
Is there any other things that AstroVault is kind of, like, thinking about
when it comes to integrations between the two of you
other than a, like, customer service kind of chat?
I'm not sure if this is too early of alpha,
but from what I've heard about things on their roadmap and whatnot,
but there's not too many people here.
Well, I guess some early things would be cool.
If Altar could figure out something with Altar IDs
where you can do things such as, like,
either KYC or provable, like, soulbound type things,
we could use them as access points for specific things
that they'd be eligible for on AstroVault,
kind of as, like, a gate limiting,
whether it's KYC or whether it's specifically not KYC,
but having different things for proof of access.
We are very interested in exploring all of what they can uniquely make possible
in that regard.
Hmm. Are you using Magic 8-Ball?
Yeah, I mean, Altar IDs, since the beginning,
like, I was always questioning why the heck we have always the emails
on the registration part, it can be your unique identifier
throughout the internet, not, like, being just an ENS for the wallet.
I mean, it's something more like that,
and a real proven privacy-based identification
that you can use everywhere.
And also having registrations possible with the IDs,
I would say, is something really needed across the internet
from the traditional space.
Because, again, emails,
they can be really either spanned,
or they can be hijacked,
or easily inject any kind of virus.
But on this side,
the Altar ID would be something really needed
to be used for the traditional registrations
to replace the email.
And in order to accomplish that,
you need an easy integration process
with the SDK for anyone to use it
as identification
and unique kind of, like,
identifier for registration processes.
So that's also one of the angles
from the roadmap as of now.
And that is being currently the cost over
with one partner from EVM,
which is also kind of like a privacy chain.
So our expansion, our EVM,
will be beneficial to the current stack
because it will allow us to make this
a dream two years ago real.
So that's really nice.
Amazing.
And so, Eric,
what are the benefits of listing Altar on AstroVault?
We are very forward about being a business,
whereas we consider most X's not.
And we consider anyone who can list,
our primary clients,
anybody who wants to host liquidity on us.
And we go to them and showcase,
like, we can offer you better and more services
than anybody else can.
But by Altar listing on us,
by hosting that liquidity,
that's going to make more money for our business.
By Altar potentially growing,
which, again, we think that they have
far more room and expectancy on growth
than most projects around crypto,
that growth leads to volume.
That growth needs to additional liquidity.
And all of that leads to more revenue
for our DEX and the AXV token holders.
So in addition to what their actual protocol
enables for us,
being able to offer unique and better services
for our other clients,
our retail clients,
that nobody else really is able to offer.
So, yeah, we want them involved.
We want them integrated.
And we want them networking
with all of our other clients
as much as possible to grow the pie.
For sure.
And so on that kind of question,
why should Archway people
kind of care about the partnership
between Altar and AstroVault?
With AstroVault being on Archway
and Altar being on AstroVault,
not only will all the trading
and the transactions
and everything that come through
drive more block space sales,
which from the business side,
it's everything that Archway is designed to do.
They need to sell block space
that they monetize their block space.
That is what their end goal is.
But additionally,
any of the services that are provided
on and for AstroVault
can then be provided
on and for Archway through AstroVault
or even not through AstroVault.
It's going to be more accessible
on Archway than it is elsewhere.
So while we've gone through
a lot of the many use cases
and there are plenty, plenty more
that we haven't gone into here
or potentially we still need
community members to discover,
you kind of get to try a lot of it
on Archway first.
Amazing.
And question for Oscars.
What's on the Altar roadmap
and what can we expect
from the project?
Well, it's super clear.
We are now approaching
like smaller
but most meaningful things
is, of course,
the listing which did happen now.
We have several partners
to announce
because currently
we are sealing in some deals
from the EVM side
and we are working
on the logging
and registration improvements
as I said before
to make it much more easier
for users to access it
because currently
with the private key
it's not so user-friendly
so that will be
very soon improved.
And also
we'll have
enhancements
for the general platform
also adding
inside of like
financial payments
between the users as well
and basically stabilizing
a bit of the platform
when it comes to
the user
experience
throughout the journey
of the platform itself
because there are
some few things
to implement.
we do have
quite a lot of
like deployments
ready
but for that
we also need to
fix the mobile part
because
like
profile attachments
sending images
in the chats
and files
as well
in the chats
there's something
also we have
already done
finished
in order to
accompany
also the mobile
support
like
both sides
should be done
and also
to make
an option
for people
to make
the groups
or channels
public
or private
so there will be
an option there
yeah
basically
make it more
accessible
that's like
the first
biggest priority
and then
of course
we will be
improving overall
with the
payment system
of Falter
because again
the subscription
will be tied
to how much
of tokens
you're going to be
bonding
there will be
a dollar
worth of value
that users
are going to
need to
buy in
with Alter
and Bonded
so they will
have the
year access
period for that
and of course
like Alter
price now
is low
take your
disadvantage
or advantage
as you can see
but there's
no financial
advice
but yeah
so far
like the goal
is clear
we're also
going to be
releasing
updated
the roadmap
and website
next weekend
with that
yeah
from our
side
we are
always
committed
and of course
we had
hiccups
during this
year
which is
probably
seenable
by majority
of teams
it is
what it
you know
but yeah
thank you
amazing
yeah
I'm definitely
excited to see
the progress
of the partnership
and what Alter
has to offer
and see how
it really helps
with the protocol
on liquidity
on Astro Vault
so with that
being said
I'm open
to the
questions
from the
audience
if anyone
has any
questions
feel free
to request
right now
or forever
hold your
peace
hop up
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have any
questions
other than
that
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if you want
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and if you
want more
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route through
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more and
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that routing
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which is
Astro Vault
we need
to integrate
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it's also
needed
awesome guys
if there's
no other
questions
then we
can end
the spaces
here
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so much
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November
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