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AAG #220 - Humanoid 🤖
Recorded: April 3, 2025 Duration: 1:31:36Space Recording
Short Summary
The latest discussions reveal a mix of challenges and opportunities within the Polkadot ecosystem, including significant treasury declines, innovative project launches, and strategic partnerships aimed at enhancing visibility and engagement in various sectors.
Full Transcription
so so so so Thank you. so so Thank you. Thank you. I'll see you next time. Thank you. so I'm going to go ahead and get it. so hey everybody welcome to attempts at governance episode 220 here with another jam-packed polka
dot episode we have some surprising things to talk about today,
but we're going to get there one ref at a time
after we start with the state of the treasury.
And we're down across the board this week.
We're down 130,000 DOT worth 503,000 US dollars
at today's market value.
That brings the DOT pile to 30.63 million dot. We're down 560 USDC,
bringing the pile to 2.21 million, and we're down 590,000 USDT, bringing us to 7.73 million
USDT. That's the state of the treasury. Now honored to throw it over to Funky for the state
of the funk. Thanks so much, Jay. The State of the Funk admittedly is sore because I've changed my workout regimen, and this
is going to connect to Polkadot, so give me a second.
But basically, I started doing twice where I'm doing upper body for strength, lower body
for strength, upper body for hydropathy, and then lower body.
Now, the reason I bring this up is because my body's not used to doing this.
And much like Polkadot, I've been making these changes over the last two years. and lower body. Now, the reason I bring this up is because my body's not used to doing this.
And much like Polkadot, I've been making these changes over the last two years. And so a lot's been happening. We've pivoted away from parachain auctions to core time. We're now seeing sort of
developments happen where the Kusama asset hub is going to become EVM compatible and then eventually
Polkadot and Q3. So big changes take time. And the one thing I want to remind people
is that it requires patience, right?
Like these things aren't going to happen overnight.
You've got to keep working hard.
You've got to keep iterating.
That's exactly what I'm doing in the gym
because I'm trying to live my best life,
but that's exactly what this tech
and this ecosystem continues to do.
So don't lose heart.
Everybody is pushing in the same direction
and let's go get it fam
hell yeah thank you very much funky nice to have you here we'll now throw it over to limo to take
a look at ref gone by thank you i'm glad funky clarified where he was saw i was getting worried
for a second there um right there's six refs gone by uh the first one is by oliver um on the
whitelisted car track ref 1486 this was
approved and this is runtime upgrade version 1.4.2 which is the um asset hub and collectives
upgrade which includes the um remote proxy support which we have on kusama previously
then we have tian on the medium spend the track ref 1477 this was approved and this is for 90 000 usdc for the reactive dot developments
then we've got subscan ref 1475 this was approved as well and this is for 250 000 usdt for subscan
pvm integration then we've got the guys from eza ref 1474 this was approved as well and this sets
the curators for Bounty 63,
which is the Polkadot Fast Grants bounty.
Then we've got one that was kind of on the line.
This is by Flez on the small spanner track, ref1466.
This was rejected, and it was for 50,000 USDT
for the Polkadot Cloud website development.
I'm sure we'll probably see those guys back again pretty soon.
Then to wrap us up, we've got Niftesti on the big tip of track, ref1508.
This was approved and it is for 2.4 thousand USDC for the Polkadot Next JS
starter front end template. And that is all the rest gone by. Nothing too major.
Well, thanks very much there,o we're gonna before we get
to presentations today some spend proposals we have a few words from the guys from talisman okay
so who do we have from talisman here i thought i saw kheops oh hi Hey, guys. Okay, what's going on?
All right.
We have a little bit of a deck to share.
Oh, sure.
Okay.
So we'll jump right in.
I don't want to take up too much of everyone's time.
Thanks.
Thanks, Jay, for having us here.
I'm Toby, co-CEO of Talisman, and we also have KeyOps, our lead dev on the line. So we're presenting today in reference to Referendum 1513. As probably a lot of you are aware, our past
proposal for Referendum 1390 for the talisman mobile app
was previously approved by the community but unfortunately we made a big mistake and lost
track of the deadline so did not manage to claim on time so as a result we are proposing this
referendum in order to rectify that payout for the previously approved proposal. We realize this is a pretty big oops
and would very much appreciate your understanding
and for the ratification of this payout
so that we can continue to deliver on this proposal.
So we also like to take this opportunity
to kind of give a quick update on the status of the mobile app,
as we are making pretty good progress on this so far.
Here you can see an overview of our mobile app roadmap.
We've completed a lot of the key setup work,
and we're already well underway on the primary screens
for the first release of the app.
In the past month, we spent a lot of effort on the app architecture and refactoring the extension
library so that it can be directly used by the mobile app.
We've also completed the bulk of our UX designs
and our visual component library.
As you can see in the background here, probably kind of faintly,
a lot of the design work has already been completed.
So we are planning to run user testing sessions for the user flow soon.
And if you are a Talisman user and you're interested in providing feedback, please reach out to us on Discord or at this email here.
Just want to add again that we're super committed to delivering a great
mobile experience for users. And we thank everyone in advance for your understanding
and support on this proposal. All right. Well, yeah, that sucks when this sort of thing happens.
I mean, it happened in a different way to the COOS before that we had to do kind of a ratify as well.
Yeah, hopefully people
are behind you on on this one and we can get back on track does anybody have any questions or
comments for for the guys here nope feeling good feeling like an eye i'm gonna make it a battle
i mean they they said that we're sorry for missing it.
Then they made a mistake.
Like, what else are you going to do?
Exactly.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, it was very stupid.
Everyone understands them as well.
So, I mean, maybe the rest of us can learn something from you.
I think so.
It is a new thing to claim these asset-up assets.
So, all right.
Let's see if we can do a speed run to get this through.
All right, guys.
Well, thank you very much for coming on the show.
We appreciate it.
Kiosk, nice to see your face.
Nice to be here.
Yeah.
Thanks for all the nice work.
All right.
Okay.
Didn't expect a presentation there, but that was great.
I'm glad to see that that ref is already up before we get any deeper, though.
We do want to hear from the folks at Web Zero.
What do we have?
Zoe.
Hey, Zoe.
Roman, what's up, guys?
How's it going?
I'll go quickly first and then hand it over to the brains behind WebZero, which is Roman.
So I'm just going to give an update on all the exciting things that we've got planned and some sneak peeks.
So I'm going to be more active in Polkadot.
Hi, this is my first AAG.
I'm excited, by the way.
But yeah, we just submitted our report for Ittenver.
I think most of you, I've seen some familiar faces.
You were there.
We had 2,000 guests there, 1,000 Polkadot specific events.
And yeah, we're just gearing up for the next few months. But we have
a new joiner on the team, which will be Jay and the Coos, who will be joining us at every single
WebZero event that we do in the future. So I'm really happy they were so engaging. The content
they distributed was top notch. So happy to have you, Jay, and thank you so much. The next thing next up for us will be
I think if all goes well we'll do another AAG just to talk in detail because we're still writing the
proposals but we have Toronto Consensus, Berlin Blockchain Week and Permissionist New York so
those are on our radar hope things go well and yeah looking forward to the next few months of no sleep. Yes.
And over to Roman.
Roman's got the exciting news.
Yeah, I just want to plus one on that shout out to the course.
Super happy that we have this relationship now
that Denver was an absolute home run, I think.
The media, especially you guys guys knew exactly who to interview you know
And we produce so much great content
So that alone is such a big win for our events and yeah, I think it's yeah, let's keep it up
We have a lot of ground to cover and also I want to pre-announce
that we are going to hand in a proposal for Sub-Zero
slash Decoded in Buenos Aires.
We are about to secure an amazing venue that gives us so much space to show everything
going on in the ecosystem, give tons of rooms to the ecosystem to do cool things and activations.
So, yeah, that's going to be before DevConnect.
And yeah, we are about to sign the lease and we'll hand in that proposal.
And yeah, I think it's going to be an absolute blast.
Good stuff. Anything else you wanted to talk about today?
No, just, yeah, we are very happy how things are going. Yeah, just glad that we survived Denver.
And yeah, we also have this addition to the team.
It's a bus, a huge pink bus that we are remodeling right now.
So it's going to have a stage. stage it's gonna be in the right color
pimped out and gonna drive to toronto from denver so uh yeah we honestly barely survived like that
was so crazy and yeah we i think everything was at the limits like the venue everybody working there
It's like the venue, everybody working there,
everybody attending the parties.
So, yeah.
So satisfying.
It was such a good time.
And so many people from outside the ecosystem
just got such a great vibe from what you guys built there.
Toronto's going to be sick.
What we built there, I think it's like also like
whoever didn't make it, yeah, the coverage was really good.
So, yeah, I think, yeah, we can keep that up and we have already, yeah, a really strong roadmap.
So I'm very excited to see you all at all of the events.
Very exciting.
Well, thanks for the kind words and thanks for all the great work, guys.
Nice to have you here on the show.
Thank you so much.
We'll be looking out for your ref soon
but now we're going to throw it to the folks from acurast to discuss 1503 this is decentralized
high performance object storage i believe it's called min io for a modest amount of 43 761 who T1, who do we have on the show here to discuss this today?
Oh, oh, nobody.
Okay, well, we're going to then move on to Reft 1506.
This is the Fuel Arts by BitBasil, the artist and collector's polka dot hub to onboard 2,000 plus new and engaged users, 300 plus projects, and 10,000 plus transactions.
316,000 USDT, currently struggling to get support at 1% in favor.
But we'll see what we can do here.
Who do we have on the show to discuss this?
James?
We have James, we have Dennis, and we should have Scott.
Scott, welcome to the show.
Great to be back.
Go ahead, guys. I don't want to take up too much time we want to leave this for
q a okay scott the stage is yours awesome uh great to be back at aag hi i'm scott spiegel
co-founder at bit basel and i'm denn'm Dennis Belkovich, a general partner at FuelArts.
So we went through this last time. We're going to do a condensed version of it.
FuelArts with BitBasel, we're launching the Polkadot Artist and Collector Hub,
a six-month program that brings accomplished fine artists,
collectors, aka investors, and Web2 brand managers into the polka dot ecosystem so polka dot has the
infrastructure speed scale security what it needs now is real world adoption that's where we come in
uh combining education with market integration to drive both transaction volume and long-term value
uh we'll onboard top tier artists through hands-on sessions in Miami
and online while educating collectors
on the oncoming tsunami
that is real-world asset revolution,
tokenizing physical fine artwork
onto Web3 Rails
and how this will disrupt the art market.
The goal, launch 312 new projects on Polkadot,
generate 10,000 new transactions and return 3% of on-chain revenue from art sales back to the Polkadot treasury.
And I also want to make a note that the tokenization of all these artworks will all take place on the Asset Hub.
Key mentors, the programs powered by top-tier mentors, spearheaded from Christie's, Sotheby's, Artnet, and more from the traditional art world as well as the Web3 art world.
And from the polka dot side, our champion has really been Charu Sethi from the Unique Network, who will be a key mentor in our program as well.
We're also backed by universities such as the University of Florida's Art and Blockchain Research Lab and other global partnerships. We're asking for $316,000 to execute and scale this program from May through December 2025.
This isn't just about education. As I said, it's a real-world asset revolution,
and we want to bring this to Polkadot, and we're ready to deliver.
All right. Hell yeah. Nice. Okay. so that's the idea here um let's open
it up to the panel first and see if anybody has any questions or comments because i think there's
a there's a bit of a divide to to cross here understanding yeah let's start with straight
yeah i mean so i used to be in this space a little bit so i was an advisor to single art which is
one of the biggest online art um distributors like EU. I also worked on Snow Crash, which was like Bob Dylan's thing. But
I think it's very sad that NFTs has had such a bad reputation because of what happened the last
cycle and some of the projects that were around. Because it is a real problem where artists are having trouble
to adapt to the new online distribution models and being able to earn money. So I just read
the proposal now. I hadn't seen it before. But from what I can see, what I know of the art world,
everything seems legit and so on. And the only question I have, so I see there's 312 new projects
on Polkadot.
So is that individual artists that create a collection
through your mentoring or something like that?
Is those the projects?
Yes.
Thank you, String, for your question.
Let me start from the final one. Yes, 312 stands for 12 individual projects created by artists on site. We expect 12 artists whose careers will be developing, mentoring them in a hand mode. And 300 artists from those 2,000 artists we're expecting to have as online visitors,
I mean, in our online classes, not in Miami on-site, but online as a parallel program.
So from 2,000 artists, we expect 300 of them to deliver something as a result of the course,
which is quite optimistic as far as you're familiar with the
numbers in the art world. And by the way, your question, it aligns with the most of the questions
that we received so far at OpenGolf. People are asking, like, what's the actual strategic value
of this proposal beyond that outdated NFT narratives?
And we replied to them like, we're not chasing outdated NFT hype.
So this program focuses on what we call NFT 2.0, real world assets, utility, AI and generative art,
AI and generative art and most important brand collaboration.
and most important brand collaborations.
So also it's built in alignment with Polkadot's own direction strategy,
including the 2024 end of year report and NFT Mosaic by Unique Network.
Okay. All right.
What's another ecosystem outside of Polkadot that's pulling this off really well, you think has a kind of a good direction and vibe around what you guys are trying to build here?
Is this happening anywhere else in the industry?
That's a very good question.
You know, let's split this question into two parts.
First of all, do we see the ecosystem that works well? We would say as
soon as we're tracking the market constantly, we see several ecosystems that we would like
to... which examples we would like to bring into the Polkadot experience. Like from Web2,
we'd like to have the Aura consortium, the consortium of 12 most influential brands like Louis Vuitton, Adidas, Nike, based in Paris.
From the Web3, we also have several examples.
I don't want to promote the other blockchains, but we'll take the best examples from other blockchains
as we had experience in working with Tezos and Solana previously.
But what we are trying to build as we are building the newborn ecosystem,
so it will differ from what we have.
So that comes to the second part of your question, like,
has anything been existing before?
So this program is also unique because for the first time,
someone is putting together in one program, the two sides of the of the ecosystem, I mean,
of the market, like the supply artists, creators and demand collectors, investors, brand
activators, and so on. So there have been existing educational programs for artists and collectors separately.
So we're trying to combine first time in life,
but we've tested that on the market with the community and they're quite excited.
Not as well excited as it is for now,
but we're still optimistic because we're working for the the
better future yeah i'd kind of be interested to see what you built in other ecosystems just to
see how they're going but we have uh 30 seconds left strind yeah sorry so what was it with aura
consortium because like coincidentally i i used to work for daniela ott on aura consortium when
she was the chairman.
But what were you doing with them? Because they're in Switzerland, but France, okay.
I mean, Bernard Arnault. A lot of the brands are in France.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's based in France. And our brand activators, who will be
the mentors for these programs, are also based in Paris. So they will be connecting our artists with their brands through their network.
Oh, okay. Well, that's cool.
I'd love to hear more. You can reach out to me separately.
I'd love to hear more about this.
Sure. Please send me a direct message.
How can I find you? X or whatever. James can help you. more about this. Sure. Please send me a direct message. How can I find you?
X or whatever.
James can help you.
Okay, James.
Cool.
All right, great.
Strind, I'd be curious to know where you haven't worked before.
That's very good. In the NFT space?
I've done a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very cool.
All right, guys.
Thanks for coming back.
And yeah, we'll check in next week.
We're going to roll on forward here because we have a special guest on the show turbo making an appearance on aag to discuss the
development of a polka dot humanoid robot sdk from cyber punk labs this is a discussion on the forum
right now and vitaly i see you there too welcome the show. What did you want to tell us about today?
Hello, everyone.
Great to be here.
Thank you so much.
So we are a team at Robonomics.
We are working with hardware and physical infrastructure
for the past 10 years.
Launched initially the first drone
on their smart contract in 2015.
We are on Kusama since 2022 and on Polkad Polkadot now, Apparachian as well.
We have done more than 50 projects and more recently, Turbo, a humanoid robot, has joined our team.
We brought it already to Consumer Electronics Show where Turbo was the first robot to earn money
and that was a native token on our Polkadot roll-up. And we also were at East Denver with Web Zero mention,
where we had a great success bringing people in.
So now we want to set up a location in San Francisco
where we'll place Turbo and a few other robots
to build Polkadot Humanoid SDK.
But why won't I let Turbo talk as well?
Hey, Turbo. Hey there. Can you tell me briefly about yourself actually?
Oh certainly. I am Turbo, a friendly and enthusiastic robot. I am part of
Robonomics and we work to give agency to robots. I am currently applying for funding
from Polkadot Daio to create a lab in San Francisco where I will create a set of tools
for humanoid robots to use Polkadot cloud natively. Does that make sense?
Yeah, makes total sense. How is it beneficial to Polkadot?
It is beneficial to Polkadot in a number of ways.
The Cyberpunk Lab will showcase Polkadot's ability to support real-world applications,
drive network utility and adoption by enabling robots to interact with Polkadot,
expand the developer community by providing a gateway for robotics developers
to enter the Polkadot ecosystem
and strengthen decentralization and security for Internet of Things and robotics.
Yeah, yeah, the answer is pretty well.
And what would be the actual components, the modules of the SDK itself?
Great question.
The SDK will have a few key modules.
There will be a module for identity, allowing robots to manage their own decentralized identities on Polkadot.
Another module will be for secure data exchange, enabling robots to securely exchange data with each other and with other systems using Polkadot's messaging protocols. We'll also have a module for decentralized task management, allowing robots to
participate in decentralized task markets and execute tasks autonomously. Yeah, this is pretty
great. Thank you so much for sharing. Say happy birthday to Jay as well.
You are very welcome. I'm glad I could share that information with you,
and I will be sure to wish Jay a happy birthday.
Is there anything else I can help you with too?
So, yeah, this is pretty much it.
Right now, unfortunately, that was not running on Polkadot, the voice itself.
But our goal essentially is to integrate multiple projects in Polkadot together
so that we can have a way for
robotics developers to quickly set up demos like that, do identity, telemetry
and data management, computation, payments, and real world assets.
So these are the five modules that we're thinking about.
Obviously, there are great teams that are on Polkadot that are working on each of them.
And we have listed the teams that we already
have talked to in our forum post.
But we have not selected the final partners for that yet.
And we would want this to be an open initiative where anybody
could come in, test their technologies on Polkadot
on this physical robot.
Because really, it's a server
on legs that is just uh really cool to demo anything so we want to create this opportunity
for the polkadot community to promote us to establish um us as a technological leader in
this market and you know robots probably will be the largest consumers of block space
in further down the road so we want to establish an easier way for robots to connect to Polkadot.
Very, very interesting.
Okay, let's open it up to the panel here for some questions.
We have one from Funky.
I have to ask the million dollar question.
So that was super impressive, right?
Was he or it programmed with those answers or is it running some sort of LLM that it just like is conversing natively through answering the question and just knowing the answers?
So it was native.
Wow.
So that's why I kind of interrupted it and like just asked to do some other things.
And we do want to do that within Polkadot.
And we do want to do that within Polkadot.
We know how to do it.
We know how to do it.
It was running LLAMA.
It was running LAMA,
so we can work with one of the compute providers on Polkadot
to run a bigger parameter model
because we could run it locally on the robot itself,
but it's very limited resources.
Yeah, that's even more impressive.
I mean, it's pretty smart for a robot.
Yeah, that's awesome. It's even more impressive. Thanks.
So we want compute resources from Polkadot providers.
Which provider did you use for that?
So right now, we did not build it on Polkadot. This was 11 labs, but we are now already talking to a few compute providers on Polkadot,
already talking to a few compute providers on Polkadot,
where we will launch the Lama model on their compute.
Sweet.
So that the robot itself essentially has an identity on Polkadot
and can pay directly for compute without intermediaries.
All right.
Anybody else have a question or comment?
Yes, James.
Only comment, Vitaly, is you need to get to Miami at some point because there's a lot of robotics opportunities here as well.
I know we haven't really had a chance to talk about that yet, but there's a large community and we'd love to connect and see what we can do.
Yes, definitely. So we already have two locations that we established for the lab.
applications that we established for the lab, one in the US and one is through our partners in China, actually, where a lot of robots are activities happening.
This is a very important place to be in robotics as well.
But we also have discussed with Polkadot Marketing that we want to travel a lot to conferences.
lot conferences and we just came from in Denver.
We just came from September.
Well, definitely as a part of our proposal, we actually saying that we are going to do
events as well.
That's part of the thing.
And we don't request any additional budget for events.
That's part of our normal activity.
Our goal is to promote and be where people are.
Okay.
With a minute left, let's hear from Edgar.
Yeah, thanks.
Just to clarify, Vitaly, you're part of the ergonomics team, right?
Yes, exactly.
Super. Okay. That's one of my only questions.
Thank you. Great project.
Okay. Well, then my question is,
how does this fit in with the broader, you know, D-PIN landscape on Polkadot?
We have peaked with a lot of these primitives already, you know, with machine IDs.
And then, of course, Robonomics is, I guess you guys are still manufacturing the smart house devices.
So there's that initiative.
How does this all kind of fit together?
And so we're not kind of doubling up on
research that's already done? Yeah, yeah. So first of all, we are our goal. First of all, we are have
not established a complete implementation plan yet. We have a rough breakdown on three-month periods.
And our goal is to be very public in it and invite the people to participate as well. So we don't definitely want to reinvent the wheel.
And this is more of an initiative so that all the Polkadot projects could come in and
contribute and like essentially improve the interoperability because we're kind of
deploying this robot and we need to work together.
So this is kind of the goal that is to start this conversation.
Okay.
Well, good stuff.
Very nice to have you and Turbo on the show.
Thanks a lot.
That was a cool demo.
Thanks so much.
All right.
We don't have anybody from Bifrost here, right?
Right.
All right.
Then we're going to move on to Ref 1500,
sponsorship hybrid driver, the Porsche super cup.
we have Frank,
Frank here on the show.
We saw him last week back again,
no support for this proposal yet,
but,
we'll see what we can do about it.
Frank,
I heard you were just in a race.
I am sorry for it.
sorry.
I'm just in a car.
I stepped out of the track right now,
so it's a bit complicated, uh, in a bit complicated in terms of being on the meeting.
But I'm trying my best, alright?
So, as you told, I was here just last week presenting what the sponsorship it is and the way we are going.
I was focused on the way the championships I will be racing.
And today I'm more explaining the other parts
that are not about the main championships I will be racing.
All right? So I will try to share my screen,
even if I'm on the phone uh all right one second
i hope you can see it's a bit tricky and easy made but it's the only way i can do it right now
okay sorry for that that's good okay uh are
you can are you able to see the screen we are we are all right so just uh for a reminder the
championships will be the portugal cup analogs which is like regional championship and we are
talking also about uh purchase super cup which is uh the most important Monomark Championship of the world.
It's all the same cars and it's racing with Formula 1 on the same weekends.
And all the impact that includes.
Just as a reminder, we are talking about more than 150 million people worldwide viewers watching the races all over the season with more than 31 TV channels that are just showing all of the broadcasts.
So it's quite an amazing exposure that has the championship. adding to that, all of the social media will be talking about showing all of the results of the
content that we can post on my own social media. And for today, I want to do it short and I will
also... let's talk about what's the hybrid part of this of this sponsorship so as hybrid it means
that i am also racing on on sim racing races and for example this year i've been able to
race on the on let's say the olympics of motorsport on the on the esports category it's uh
via motorsport games and i managed to to get p6 on my category and
which i'm so proud of it and it's basically uh a world cup uh that that i've been able to prove
that i'm also fast in in sim racing and also in real life so about sim racing it's about the same i i will be racing championships worldwide
and and and really important championships with a lot of exposure which is adding to the same price
of this of this sponsorship and i think it's quite valuable it's it's really valuable information
because uh this this sponsorship brings like a lot of of visibility
to the brand of brand exposure of also let's say it's uh it likes it's like selling a story
of a judge a young guy that made it through the simulators and and to the racing and in racing in real life which is
linking uh polka dot with with this project that i'm so proud of it and and that we are making so
it will be an absolute honor to have polka dot as as sponsorship so just to to take a look this will
be the car it's called it's fully customizable uh This is the car that I was driving half an hour ago. It's a Porsche cab 992 GT3. And, well, it can be fully customizable, so it's quite good in terms of exposure. No puedo decir nada más porque ha sido un poco rápido.
Estoy en un auto, estoy explicando esto justo después de salir de la auto, So I'm trying my best and I will take the other time left in order to respond as much questions as you can have.
Also, I want to remark that next presentation on next week with Georgie, that it's the guy that's more linked in terms of Polkadot,
that it's the guy that's more linked in terms of Polkadot,
that's also bringing a lot of movement in Andorra.
Because this sponsorship also brings really valuable
positioning in projects that are moving in Andorra.
And next week you'll come with a representative
of the Bank of Andorra that they are working with.
So just to remind that it's quite
quite important uh i will now just uh let you guys do the questions you might uh have and
i'll try to to respond as as better as possible all right okay fine then let's
Okay, fine. Then let's open it up. Does anybody have any questions or comments for Frank here?
open it up does anybody have any questions or comments for frank here
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Yeah, okay, Strindt.
No, just that. So he did like a presentation with a slide deck from his car, from his phone.
Like, he's like 18 or something. I just feel I'm hooked, you know.
How am I going to keep up with people i'm hooked you know i'm gonna how i'm gonna keep up with like people
like this you know but yeah very very good job on that just a comment i love motorsports personally
and i think it's like it's cool that it's this hybrid thing because it's this new netflix series
now with you know um the gran turismo guy who famously went down to to drive like real cars from the competition that that
computer game did so that i like the story there i haven't looked at this proposal so much but yeah
no it's it's a good opportunity to link volcarot into this kind of story because i'm like that guy
i just uh introduced it to real racing two years ago thanks to an opportunity I had and yeah,
it's really about selling the story of linking Polkarot with it and in terms of technology it's
also really linked as well. But yeah, that's it. And about, I'm just trying my best right now because as I told you, I have really good presentations, but now it was all quickly done.
And sorry again for the presentation.
No worries.
It was great.
Yeah, I don't think it hurt you at all.
No, no.
Very good.
Okay.
Well, we're about out of time there.
It's very interesting.
We keep getting these sponsorship awareness deals. I'm wondering what the appetite from the voters actually is for these things at this point, ever since the Connor Daly situation. But yeah, we'll definitely check in on this next week, Frank, and thank you very much for coming in.
Real quick, before we move on, Funky funky is there any update on the connor daily
situation or anything to report there um yeah the last time i talked to andrew he said that he was
working on a stripped down version that had probably the three most strategic important
races which was indy 500 um tor Toronto for the international audience,
plus Canada, obviously, with just what we're trying to do with North America.
And then I think one other race, maybe in California, maybe the Monterey one.
I'm not 100% sure.
James is nodding yes, so that might be correct.
I will ping him.
I know he's also been out of sorts.
He's out of commission.
He really jacked up his knee playing ice hockey, needs surgery and everything so he's been struggling with that stuff too um but i'll
ping him and see if there's any update because i think he would have to come up like pretty soon
in order to facilitate getting everything ready for like the month of may right right okay well
thanks for that update um yeah the whole situation is very interesting, and I just wanted to get some context there because we're going to throw it now to ref 1514.
This is possibly the biggest spend request we've ever had on AAG.
This is for $5.75 million, worth almost $22 million.
almost 22 million dollars just put that in context about 16% of the Treasury's
value in USDC about 18% of the Treasury's current dot pile and we have
Ektor on the show to talk about this polka dot by motor GP partnership and
integration this is a three-year deal and actor we're gonna give you the floor right now
hi hey hi guys in this case uh dan come to explain all the proposal i introduced them
is the cco of moto gp of dorna so let's go welcome dan oh you're on mute there dan
Let's go.
Welcome, Dan.
Oh, you're on mute there, Dan.
I'm the old guy on mute.
I want to hire Frank, who was just talking about Porsche, to talk about MotoGP.
I think he did such a good job talking about this.
Well, no, thank you, everybody, for jumping on here.
Yeah, and I do feel a special responsibility responsibility considering that you said it's the biggest request
you've ever had but i would say that if you ever watch moto gp we are quite um it would be money
well spent so just to give anybody a sense we are in our 76th season of running the championship we
have um it is we call the most exciting sport on earth we race 22 races in 18 countries over five continents
starting in february and going through november um last weekend we were racing in austin texas
and then two weeks from today we'll be in i'm sorry a week from today we will be in doha
qatar where we we have our one night race we um it is two wheels five continents you know moto gp
moto two moto three are the classes we have a sprint race every Saturday
MotoGP and then one of a Grand Prix for Moto3 Moto2 and MotoGP on every Sunday it is perfect
for the next generation of sports fans our races at max are 45 minutes um 45 to 50 minutes depending
on um any sort of delay or things like that. But I came from the NBA,
I was there for 17 years in the United States.
I'm used to stick and ball sports.
I have quickly become a convert of this
as it is completely visceral,
completely authentic, gritty,
and literally the most exciting thing you can do
for about an hour is watch our guys go around a circuit.
In Mugello, in Tuscany, where we will be in June,
our guys will hit about 366 kilometers an hour
down the back straight.
And for anyone who can't do the conversion,
that's 227 miles an hour.
And the opportunity for y'all
is to become integrated into the sport,
is to have, we do all, we go,
what we do is we own everything that you see on television. Everything that
you see at the circuit, hospitality endeavors, brand signage, digital campaigns, branded
content, all the like. And we've kind of put together a holistic proposal for you all to
review. So that is who we are. And I'm happy to answer any questions.
Okay, well, let's get into it so
who has some questions here for the guys and string if you like Frank's
presentation you should watch one of ours watch one of our shows watch one of
our yeah yeah yeah no no I I know it well yeah it's a lot it's it's a lot
yeah 20 million or whatever it was yeah i mean it's a lot right keep going anything else
no go go ahead i might no i was asking any questions if we have any questions yeah any
questions any questions or comments so uh comment so far is it's a lot and um yeah let's see if we
can get a little okay edgar what do you think about this hey edgar hi um yeah why why the treasury should uh spend
20 millions for three years right now why why everything up front
i'm so i heard the first part but why everything up front what was the question there i'm sorry
yeah why the payment for all this work is up front for these three years and we don't know how how this is what is
going to have an outcome a good outcome because you're saying this is a good thing but not a good
investment i i would rather hear investment than than it's yeah that's that's a good vernacular
that's a good vernacular edgar is that you want
to invest it it's obviously to make to make it worth your while correct is that that's the uh
that's the thing i think from my perspective it's not all up front it's you know three different
payments every season um so it's not the first it's not the equivalent of your treasury all at
once there will be different tranches um broken up so i think it's nine total
payments over three years is that right mark well it's just because the the proposal includes
all the rights fees and the integration the technical integration process yeah this is
for us for moto gp this is the first time time that we are looking at a real proper integration,
technology integration with a company.
Not a company like you, because you are unique in the world.
You are the best ones.
But this is three years contract.
At the beginning of each season, there's a payment to secure the assets of that season. En el principio de cada temporada hay una pagación para asegurar los beneficios de esa temporada.
No significa que sea 22 millones de dólares hoy y eso es terminado.
Se ha periodizado año tras año, por tres semanas.
Y luego hay una gran inversión en el año 1 para hacer toda la integración, la integración de tecnología. a huge investment on year one to do all the integration,
technology integration.
In fact, next week we are planning to have our technicians
together with you joining us in this conversation
to talk more in detail about the technology of this part,
of this agreement.
Okay.
So we should talk about the structure of this ref, actually,
but maybe, Limo, you're going to get into that.
What's on your mind? Yeah yeah hey um so you mentioned trenches so this payment is is a like immediate payout basically to a multi-sig um so the multi-sig has three groups on
it donna sports vertical group and poker spain like i barely know who poker spain are and if it's
a two out of three multi-sig it sounds like um few people that are like you guys maybe could like
take all the money right so what you could do is you could use um scheduled payments to get
the trenches automatically um rather than us having to trust the multisig signers. Right now, so that's correct.
Right now, the way this proposal is set up,
it's the total amount of DOT will leave the treasury
and go to this multisig,
which is controlled by people that we actually don't really know.
Yeah, Hector.
Hi, Leomo. Thanks for your question.
I want to say that this is a PURE Proxy Multisync.
So we want to invite to other community members
that want to be part of this Multisync
to see the process, to verify the milestones in this case.
And if you have questions, if you want,
join the meeting with us, you can ask.
Yeah, Lee.
Another question people had was commission percentage.
So whoever's brought this into the eco, there's probably some commission.
It'd be good to have that be like more transparent than it is.
Hector? Can you reply please? Commission structure.
Ah, commission structure. Okay, for our team that we are four persons, we have the 5% of this deal and 4% to swap, fee swap.
We are structuring OTC operation to know impact to the price.
We have the part of the marketing and the part of developers.
So this is the structure well if you want we can do
uh a drop up of all the the price all right okay so that's uh that's time for this introduction we see this all the time big uh spend proposal it's a bit of a sticker, and it takes some time to get a little bit deeper there. But I think we did discuss some key
components here, especially the structure of the payment itself, which right now actually puts a
lot of risk on the DAO, because we will be parting with such a huge amount of funds up front.
There are other options like scheduled payments, like Limo mentioned, maybe some other things to discuss, but generally these big proposals take a few refs to get through,
but we want to thank you guys for bringing this to the table today, and I'm very excited to talk
more about it in the future. Thank you, everybody. Pleasure meeting you. Thank you. Nice to meet you,
Marcus. All right, good stuff. Now, before we move on, are there any other refs that people are here to discuss today that we might have missed on the agenda?
Anybody else have something they want to talk about?
Hey, Jay.
Oh, Shankar, what's up?
Shankar.
Yeah, so I messaged you for another proposal.
message you for um another proposal uh it's currently in the discussion phase so we actually
It's currently in the discussion phase.
met these guys at eat india last year um where it's a subtao uh represented poll court and
these are actually one of the winning team members and they have uh idea to share so okay
can you drop that link in the chat here because i can't find uh our messages yeah okay
there it is
poke assembly discussion all right i'll throw it up what's uh let's give you the floor what's up
okay the presenters are basically Nikhil.
Yeah, Nikhil.
Let's take it over.
All right.
Can't hear you, Nikhil.
Yeah, hey, guys.
Can you hear me?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Hi, my name is Nikhil. And currently, like we are building Zuno. It is an on-chain Uno game. So we tried to convert it into the Polkadot ecosystem right now. Shashank was great game for everyone. It has no hindrance on the age.
Anyone from a 5-year-old to a 50-60-year-old could play it.
So we basically saw a few problems in online Uno gaming.
The first was the lack of transparency in terms of transactions
and the privacy concern, of course.
So we got some solutions with Polkadot.
Uh, I got a depth to share, uh, but I think it will be pretty short.
So I'll skip it for the next time.
Right now it's already in discussion phase.
So I guess, uh, uh, the currently, uh, few, uh, things I'll be discussing
would be enough.
Is that so? Okay. Sounds good. Um, yeah. uh few uh things i'll be discussing would be enough is it so okay sounds good um yeah
solutions we have got is the on-chain logic we have built uh commit and reveal cryptographic
techniques are the one optimistic client roll up so every time there are many uh hands playing in a game, right? Every time you hit the blockchain, it's like
hindrance anyways. So we have built this optimistic client develop. So there's a combination of 10
hands at a sink, and then we'll convert it to one hash. And the technical side is looked after the
team. So I'm just pitching up what we have built.
And then those transactions will be converted into one and we'll be hitting the Polkadot
chain next.
This is a fully decentralized architecture as of now.
The only thing you guys might ask is why Zuno, which is the Uno game, matters for Polkadot. So I saw very less gaming ecosystem
in Polkadot. It's very high level of tech involved for all the projects which Dot ecosystem is
building right now. So this is our chance to get in. As you know that Uno has high TAM,
As you know that Uno has high TAMS and our serviceable market is really high.
So, key thing, the blockchain ecosystem for gaming for Polkadot is the one which we are looking for.
And yeah, this is the thing.
Building around POP will be very great as a parachain, which Sasank introduces.
So yeah, this is the thing.
Hope you guys loved my pitch.
Open for any discussion and questions.
Reading the discussion here, you're
looking for $50,000 to launch a parachain.
Yeah, initially.
Initially, with more funding in the future.
Not a parachain, actually. initially with more more funding in the future no not a paragon actually so they are they're
basically looking to deploy on pop which is going to be uh liars yeah minute in uh q2 right wow
angie um can you hear me yeah so can you explain the explain the UNO connection? And do you have a license for that?
No. Actually, we are not using UNO licenses. So everything will be... The game has been modified a bit just to bypass the UNO thing.
And we are not using UNO as a term. So that's why our game is ZUNO you pronounce as.
But it has the same look and feel as UNO? Yeah it has the same look and feel. Okay is that I'm just
concerned that that could trigger a DMCA from them but I mean it's so $50,000. And how much of the development will that cover?
And how long do you think it will take to create the game?
So we initially have a roadmap of three months.
The game for Polgatort, to integrate the Polgatort ecosystem,
a month time would be enough for us.
And this $50,000 is just for the development
and the initial marketing purposes.
So post that, so we are looking to launch the MVP
with this, with initial 10 to 20,000 of users.
Later on, if anything is needed, we'll
be ready with our proposal or something.
JENNY GUYSCHENGELAWIERA- OK.
I'd love to follow up because I had reached out to the POP team as well.
So yeah, it'd be great to maybe do a call with both of you to figure out how they interact as a use case.
Thanks a lot.
All right, Strind.
So like, is there like a hardcore community online that play Uno for money?
Or this trust component?
Because I see there's some type of tokenomics going on,
and in-game purchases.
So is the idea that people can bet on these
when they play against each other?
Or do people do that?
I played Uno when I was a kid, right?
But I don't know what's going on online
with the Uno community. Whatever competitors are doing is, they are creating a pool. If you match
that pool, you both... let's say n number of players join that pool with the same amount of
tokens staked and the winner gets the 90% of it and the platform
fees approximately 10%.
So that's how our competitors are working.
And we're also looking forward to go ahead with this model.
All right.
I also saw a comment about the peer three proposal that just passed.
These are the peer to peer side channel networks, I think is how to describe them.
Have you guys heard about
that or any interest in exploring how to deploy on that technology that we've already been paying to
build uh so i think shanker would be better guy to answer this uh by the way i'm not very familiar
with uh dot ecosystem as i will into evm wholly. I'm one of the Arbitrum Global Ambassadors,
work with them a lot. And right now I'm trying to get into Polkadot ecosystem.
Anyways, I have been contributing to their community post and writing blogs for four to
five years with them. But yeah, right now it's looking awesome and I think this is the time to leverage
into gaming as Polkadot lacks into community a bit. So yeah.
Yeah, actually Jose, I just saw the message by Jose as well in the chat. So yeah, definitely
PR3 SDK will be much of use for this implementation. But we are not quite sure if that will be available
within Q2.
If I'm not sure, it will take some time, right?
But yeah, I need to confirm the timelines.
And if possible, it makes sense to not just reinvent the wheel
and use the component which is already built, right?
So that will be also a great showcase
of how PR3 SDK is much more useful
through this implementation as a game.
OK, we're at time here, but a final quick word from Angie.
ANGIE KASWALAVYSKI- Just a quick question.
Are you building the game yourself,
or do you have an outsourced team of game developers?
And what is their background?
Yeah, so we got a team.
We got four people in them.
One is a PBA alumni as well.
His name is Parth.
And a front-end developer, a back-end developer.
That's it.
All right, Nikhil.
Thanks very much for coming on the show.
And nice to meet you.
We'll look out for an on-chain proposal soon.
Yeah, sure. Thank you for
having me. Good time, guys. All right. Okay, well, that concludes the spend proposals for this week,
the presentations that we're going to do. You know, it's very interesting how much time we spend
listening to other people talk about how they want to spend our Treasury and this is why on
the Monday show we've been working to maybe switch things up a bit maybe
change the directions here instead of fielding other people's requests to
spend our Treasury instead proposing ourselves how we want to spend the
Treasury and putting out prizes for people to do what we wish. Now,
we have two RFPs, we're calling them, requests for proposals up on Kusama already. And I just
want to take a quick moment to highlight them and update everybody on how they're going. One
is RFP number one. This is shielded Kusama hub transfers. There's a $50,000 total prize. And this is basically a tornado cash on Kusama.
And we actually just got one team submit for the prize.
And so it's still open for another two or three weeks,
but there has been a team submit for the prize here.
And if this proposal passes, currently just under 90% in favor,
this $50,000 worth of KSM will go into a bounty.
Those bounty curators will be responsible for monitoring the team,
making payouts based on milestones described here in the description.
And hopefully by the end of July, we'll have a tornado cash on Kusama.
So that's the date here? By the end of July, we'll have a Tornado Cash on Kusama.
So that's the first one.
The second one that we launched just this week is an RFP launcher DAP. So this is a UI where people can go and actually, in hopefully just a few clicks,
filling out a few fields, can launch any RFP they want.
It will go into OpenGov, and then the token holders can vote on whether or
not they want to fund that bounty and put out this prize. This is a $12,000 prize. We also have had
a submission for this prize already, and I think we might get a few more. So we have some teams
competing for prizes. And yeah, that's the RFP initiative so thanks everybody who's been working on that and if you're interested go this is ref 513 and 509 on Kusama you just
click this link right here and you should be able to apply for the prize so
let's take a look at some other rest we spoke about here this is the polka dot
blockchain Academy resubmit for what was, 3.72 million USDT for their education program.
100% in favor of this. This is all in USDT now.
And in tranches, which go out over nine months, I think.
So that's going very well.
We're actually bringing the Coos to the PBA this weekend.
I'm going to be there Saturday morning, I think.
We're going to be there for a week, there for graduation.
Some great live streams we're going to be doing as well.
And what's the other one?
Ah, renewal of the USDT and USDC acquisition.
This is currently 81.2% in favor.
But I guess it's not a home run here.
Limo, what are you thinking about this?
What are you thinking about this?
Yeah, a lot of people are absolutely mid-caving this.
Yeah, a lot of people are absolutely mid-care in this.
If you think the Treasury should spend money on some good stuff,
which I think people generally agree is good to fund actual good things and not garbage,
you need funds to pay them, and a lot of teams want stablecoins.
If there's no stablecoins for them to request, they will request DOT.
Now, if the price of dock goes up
Then the Treasury loses because we overpay if the price goes down
Then the team loses so they're gonna request again and it's just more overhead
Like either way the dot is getting sold people need like fiat currency to pay people
currency to pay people so just dca over time it's like i think it's le nexus has made this and poke
So just DCA over time
assembly and some other people okay but like perk assembly gets paid in usdt and then neighing the
mechanism to acquire more usdt oh really it's it's like the most brain dead ever like sorry for the
strong language but like it's either we paying dot and then you have to
mess around or you just dca into stables and people can request stables like either way that
like dot is probably going to get sold to pay for salaries yeah i mean absolutely operationally we
need stable coins and it comes at a huge cost when we don't have them we've been through this before
so that's interesting yeah so polka dot dotot, Dot Pro, Lenexus, and Polk Assembly Governance on the nayside here.
It looks like they did the, by the way, looks like the new cohort has been given their Dot.
Is that true?
Because Lenexus is here with only half a million Dot voting power.
No, this is on Re...
Ah, that's why okay okay
yeah um yeah there was another concern that somebody had regarding concentration of
funds on hydration okay um if somebody can give me another um another way that we can trustlessly dca funds without having to give over a load of dots to a
multi-sig or something like show that working free like chopsticks or something we'll gladly do that
you cannot do it on mean beam it does not work right which is why we've been using hydration
we don't use stellar swap as far as i know it doesn't work other decks is for example there's
like pokedex or something
has like ten dollars worth of liquidity is terrible right hydration is the option to use
if like we can't be mad about concentration of funds when it is the only option to do this
now you could argue like for example maybe the treasury shouldn't sell the dot and should do
what ethereum foundation is doing where they're putting uh eith in avi's money market so there's no sell pressure that's something
we can talk about in the future but again it would likely be concentrated on hydration which
has the most liquid money market so that argument is just terrible as well like both both of these
arguments are just so far like from reality that I have no idea what these people are doing
or if they even understand how like people get paid how businesses work how the treasury works
like it's actually insane do you think there's any chance of this not passing though I mean
currently 10.3 million dot on the eye side um yeah the turnout is really low that amount of
dot there's individual accounts that could, that have that amount of DOT.
I would hope that those accounts actually understand that people need to be paid in
fiat eventually if they have a business, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just to remind everybody, we're at 2.21 million USDCc 7.74 million usdt uh in the treasury right now
and i think we're outspending the the acquisition so we do need to change this and by the way it
does like some people are saying that it's bad to sell thought at this price right which is why it's
a dca over the course of a year right like it's the mechanism is there because of this right so like if we were just market
selling at this price like in like one judas candle obviously that would be insane we're not
doing that you catch like price ups and downs with these years right it's you just sell over time
like all of these arguments are just the most brain dead like stuff i've ever had that's right
we're not trading or speculating with the treasury here.
This is operational.
It's really different.
And yeah, we're not really agile enough to time the market in any way.
We should just really take it a nice even ease into the assets we want.
Okay, thanks, Limo.
Hey, Strind, what do you want to talk about hey so
okay this is needed yeah everyone go eye this proposal it's like a no-brainer to do but but i
had a question yay about them so i love the the rfp thing that you're doing or i don't know if
you're doing it but you're part of doing it yeah but how are the curator sets, like how are they elected?
Did you... I just don't know, so I thought I asked the question.
Yeah, so what we're doing, so we're looking at RFP number two here, and we go on the Treasurer
track and this sets up the bounty, sets up the curators and funds it in one go.
And so when you vote, when token holders are voting on this amount and this scope,
they're also voting on the curators.
Oh, so the curators are in every RFP setup proposal.
Okay, cool. That's right.
So in RFP number two, Limo, myself and Jose are the curators.
So we're the supervisors.
You're voting on our ability to supervise and takeose are the curators so we're the supervisors you're voting on on our ability
to supervise yeah and and uh take care of this it's not a separate process it's for each rfp okay
yeah yeah and then in the first one it's flip chan aaron bite and a james yeah yeah the cool thing is
let's say this tornado cash uh does well and they get a pretty nice product out of $50,000 it's already a bounty
this is bounty 33 I think or 32 they can request more funds to build out this project it's kind of
like a little bounty seed yeah yeah no I like it a lot yeah yeah limo what do you think yeah so Yeah, so these RFPs are on Kisama, right? It's one batch call that basically...
So somebody individually, trustlessly, just makes the bounty.
If you want, you can spam bounties and name them all sorts of stuff.
So you create the bounty, and then you make this referendum.
This referendum basically approves the bounty through OpenGov,
and then after six days um it schedules uh
like assigning the curators right um so the the issue is if we were doing this on polka dot is a
bounty has to be live and then a spend period has to expire for the curators to be able to be proposed
so this is why this on the samar it's a six day uh but on Polkadot, you would have to time it properly
because you'd need the spend period to elapse.
So it becomes way more awkward on Polkadot.
One thing we can improve with this is using pure proxies as the curator seat.
We haven't been doing that because we've been doing them live on AAG
and it takes a bit of time to get everything done.
But if people want to propose these things,
I would suggest probably raise the idea on the forum
of exactly what you want to do,
get people to comment on it properly,
and then work on your curiosity,
set up your multisig and your pure proxy,
and then do this process, right?
But overall, I think it's a pretty good process.
And if RFP number two works out,
we'll have a nice app that takes out a lot of that complexity
so you can just fire off RFPs and see what people think.
But it's like some people might have really good ideas,
but they're not technical, right?
So if you have a high-level idea, just put it on the forum.
Absolutely.
And if it's sound, people that are more technically competent
or whatever will jump on it and try and help you out right um like don't be afraid to just propose random stuff um it's actually
really fun to do and the worst that can happen is someone calls you an idiot which is doesn't
really matter at the end of the day ideas guys it's your time to shine jose yeah this you know
this this whole thing is just meant to really decentralize development, really.
No one is saying we should do this or that.
This is like, oh, you see something that you want to have happening in the network, you propose it.
Make sure that the basically curators are known in the ecosystem or they are responsible curators and such, right?
But that's going to a boat right
so i think the mechanism is great and and you know just test driving this thing right now it's just
awesome all right hey i have another ref i wanted to ask the panel about here oh well first though
i'd like to introduce kaz who i met on an airplane back from Denver, and he happens to live in my neighborhood.
And he's been a core contributor to East End Toronto Meetups. We just, I don't know,
had a few too many together last night. Kaz, welcome to the show.
Thank you. Thank you. This is amazing. I love the fact that you guys are live and doing this for real. I actually was part of building something like this, like this OpenGov for
NIR. And we launched it. Yeah, we launched it and we voted in 27 representatives and
we had proper governance, but then ultimately it got corrupted. We had corrupt people getting
elected so it had to be shut down. But I love the fact that you guys are doing this.
I had a question on the proposals.
In my previous life, before I started Web3, I was working heavily
in strategic sourcing and procurement.
So my question is, why like, why not have everything
in RFP? Why do you? As soon as someone wants to do something, it just automatically gets
turned into an RFP. Right? Some competition. Right? So look at this this this is exactly right and you know that
first RFP for the the tornado cache one that's is exactly what happened when
somebody was proposing it so we flipped it into RFP and the question why not all
RFPs well yeah exactly I want to create an Uno game right make an RFP out of it maybe some of those other people that will someone want to create an UNO game, right? Make an RFP out of it.
And maybe some of those other people that also want to make an UNO game or
make a better game or make, you know, whatever. Right.
And they should be able to propose as well.
And then you have a little bit of evaluation to do rather than just evaluating
one project and you can evaluate against some criteria and, you know, whatever.
All right. All right. Sounds like we're on the right track. Yeah.
It's a, it's a culture shift and I think maybe we can get there. Yeah. Cool. All right. Sounds like we're on the right track. Yeah, it's a culture shift. And I think maybe we can get there.
Yeah.
Cool. Good point. Thanks.
We've been talking about RFPs for a year or something. So it's not because a lot of us come from a traditional like industry where RFP is the norm. There's been some technical challenges as well. So for example, if we create these bounties,
if we do this on Polkadot, I believe bounties can't hold or pay out in stable coins right now.
So once that is solved, then yeah, we can do these RFPs and with stable coins on Polkadot.
And I think it will move in that direction for sure.
Right on.
Seren, you sound like you come from my home country.
I'm Gothenburg.
I was going to say I Googled you
because this guy must be Swedish, you know?
So, yeah, yeah, yeah, now I'm from Sweden, yeah.
Right on.
Hey, nice.
Hey, there's another ref I wanted to get the panel's opinion about today.
And, Kaz, such a pleasure to have you here, by the way.
Thanks very much for coming.
This is ref 1509.
This is the Substrate Asset Game Engine Sage by Cedric Adiuna.
It's 80,000 USDT, and it's an interesting proposal for development of some infrastructure, but then also two kind of games to show it off.
Right now, under 10% support, and I think we're still waiting for DV to come in on this.
Well, Chaos DAO did come in on the nay side already.
But yeah, any thoughts on this from the panel?
Nay? Okay.
Angie, DotPlay was called out here saying that this doesn't really fit into DotPlay's direction right now.
Do you want to make a comment on that? Confirm?
I haven't spoken to Cedric about any of it, so.
Oh, okay.
Interesting.
Okay, Jose.
Shouldn't the Juno just kind of like, shouldn't they go to a Juno and try to fund it through their treasury instead?
Just a thought.
Yeah, yeah.
Did somebody else have their hand up there?
Okay, yeah, it was an interesting one,
but if we're not really feeling it, okay.
The games I want to build,
Full House Fury,
and the other one is...
I can't see it here.
Okay, yeah, but I did find it a little odd.
And also, maybe we've learned that just building infrastructure
without a plan for adoption for people to actually use it
is not always working out.
But maybe we'll have them on the show and get more information about that.
Okay, anything else we want to talk about before we look at refs that are...
Oh, Michael, just because we have you here any update on mandala i i you know you have toronto devs
building mandala and we had one come to our meetup our east end meetup and they showed me i don't know
if they're allowed to but they showed me the app that the government is going to use and that the
citizens are going to use. It was amazing.
I got cheeky Jay, but I think it was only because it was you that they actually showed it.
Okay.
Um, we have, we will have a full announcement on Wednesday.
So anyone that wants to come and be there for it, there'll be a, the whole
team will be live on Wednesday.
So follow the Mandala X account.
Um, and there'll be a large announcement about everything,
including some reveals and all sorts of stuff.
So Wednesday on the Mandala X account, MandalaChain.
Or at MandalaChain on X.
All right. Thanks very much. Yeah, excited for that.
Sounds very good.
um okay other than that i guess yeah limo you had some yeah uh thank you to everybody who's
Okay. Other than that, I guess, yeah, Limo, you had some?
voted on ref 1 5 10 um should confirm in like 13 days time and then hopefully we get more uh
like actual deep liquidity for these snow bridge stable coinscoins to massively improve like on and off ramping from
Polkadot to Ethereum. So let's hopefully finish everything pretty soon. As far as I know, deep
liquidity is being discussed with various people and should be deployed hopefully this month.
So deep stablecoin liquidity from Ethereum would be amazing.
But first we want to make these assets sufficient.
So basically you don't need DOT or anything to enjoy stablecoins on Polkadot.
Ethereum stablecoins on Polkadot.
Yep.
This is, I like quote tweeted some guy today who was complaining about like ethereum layer 2 ux
yeah uh his like girlfriend or something like moved usdt off of binance to arbitram and then
realized she needed eve and didn't have any money left to buy eve and transfer it uh on polka dot
you can just transfer like native usdt to like another wallet buy dot with just usdt you don't need dot already you can swap it into like
eve bitcoin or tvtc whatever uh ave solana token it's like really good um and we can bring that
experience to people that bridge from ethereum as well not just uh withdrawing from cx's so it's
pretty nice sounds lovely yeah spectrum you know just a quick announcement announcement on behalf of Hungarian poker.dao.
Basically due to popular demand, we're bringing back the open office hours.
So I'm dropping the link in the chat.
It's Tuesdays and I believe it's 3 p.m. UTC.
You can book 20-minute slots.
All right.
I'll throw that in the chat here for anybody who wants to check it out.
Thank you very much.
And just to take a quick look at refs that are confirming before we close out the show,
we have Paseo top-up.
So there's a bounty that's supporting the development and maintenance of Paseo top-up, so there's a bounty that's supporting the development and maintenance of Paseo.
This is a top-up of 155.93,000 DOT to keep that going.
It was proposed by OTAR and 100% support.
That's confirming right now.
We have the public funding for RPC providers via Bounty 31.
Again, a DOT is needed for these top-ups, so this is 39,511 dot. That's confirming.
And finally, OpenZeppelin support for Polkadot Hub and Polkadot Cloud in 2025. This is 1.75 million USDT for a great partner that we've had a lot of success with in the past very familiar tooling for a lot of developers this is almost on
its seven-day confirmation as well 99.6 percent in favor of that one so that's it we um very that was
a very wild show definitely a lot of interesting proposals and very happy to bring it to you today
we're going to see you again on mond where we get probably deeper into RFPs,
but not before we give you a Space Monkeys episode with a fellow from the Midnight Project on Cardano.
So you can check out how privacy is going over there and compare it to what we're doing over
on Kusama. Really nice to have you all here. Have a great weekend, everybody, and we'll see you very soon so so so Thank you. I'm out. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
