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AI, 169Pi and Alpie
Recorded: Feb. 26, 2026 Duration: 0:39:48Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello. Hey guys.
Can you hear me? hello just checking in okay sounds good if you guys can hear us just react so we'll know
react so you'll know perfect so very excited to host this ama guys i think it was long due
and now that you all are here we'll be happy to answer questions regarding the company regarding
the things we are building uh lpi uh how we came with this token and other things so you know let's just jump into this
quick the end anyone who wants to go first you guys can start raising your hands and then we'll
invite you to be
you Oh yeah guys, let's start quickly yeah
hey team r how are you doing hi guys can you hear me okay yeah we can uh not so clearly but yes we can right sorry there might
be some background noise i was just going to say maybe to start off with it we could uh if you
want to just tell us a little bit about um you know the history of um 169 pi and maybe the products
you've got and also what what led you to decision to create a token and how you see that
playing out as a good start maybe. Right so we'll give you an overview of
1.6.7Pi and me and Rajat and we had co-founders earlier where we had a blockchain company that was back
in 2022 and beyond that.
So we are already in this space where we were building you know blockchain and I think you
guys already know and keep mentioning it so we also built one of the fastest blockchains
at that time which was faster than Solana and it was able to do around 70,000 transactions per second.
So that was us doing a lot of blockchain projects, building decentralized apps,
DeFi's and all these things.
Now, the thing is there were a lot of, you know,
tech implications as well as a lot of rules and regulations that came up in India
for blockchain companies as well as people building around blockchain.
So at that time we kind of took our shift from blockchain to AI and that's how OneSexual
Empire started back in 23 when we started working around how important AI will be and
we started working around the foundational LLMs by the end of 2023 and by 2024 we registered this
and that's how we got started. Coming to your second question it was recently I think due to
Orent we launched this market feature and this token where we realized that you know we can have
a token and we can grow this community. At that time, we were not sure how the coin, you know,
would come out to be honest.
And we were just experimenting and making LPI live
at most of the platforms.
But we are really happy when this happened.
And now that we have a huge community,
we have very solid plans with this coin
and making it continue for a longer picture
and making it stick to the utility
and the things that we built at 160 and Pi.
Yeah, guys.
And I would like to add a few more things.
Like, Pi exists as an ecosystem coordination layer
for us at this moment.
And when you build infrastructure,
you eventually need alignment
between the user,
developer, and contributor and early supporter.
So that's how this whole thing come up also.
So instead of launching a RAS mechanic later,
we plan to come up with this.
So Pi is not the product,
but it's part of the whole ecosystem,
what we are coming up with and that's how it
exists and came in the picture okay so are you able to share like any sort of like what your
what your vision is for the um for the token um and how that might be used i know i know i know
you've shared a little bit in this in the telegram and i've seen some maybe some x post uh talking about you know uh token gating apps and stuff
like that but if you could just maybe be very interesting to hear how you how you envisage uh
the token being you know used utility in the part of the project that'd be quite interesting Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Uh, the long term vision is simple as 1.6 and by grow a model improve users increases developer build on top and as we just
got done with india summit which was kind of one of the biggest uh india i guess summit uh on the
planet and 165 was also present there for its own reason and we got a good amount of footage there and as you see multiple model came in last
10 days and 169 pi is also coming up with more and lpi v2 is also coming in the picture now
so the pi is becoming the native layer that align access contribution ecosystem participation
in practical term that means over time paying for AI users,
unlocking advanced feature, which we are coming up with,
and early access to new model because company
going to come up with three new more models,
and the participation in developer in the resource
program, and the potential governance input
once the ecosystem is mature.
The vision is users-driven demand, not speculation driven activity because we never said anything
which we never gonna do.
So we don't want any speculation coming.
If LPI grows, PI grows in relevance.
That's how it will be.
These things work together as we are saying from starting.
If the product fails, the token has no focus remain product first
always uh basically pi which is to be ecosystem layer of 167 by an lpi tied to real use uses and
real access and participation it designed to grow with the product not independently from it
that's how the vision looked like at this point.
Cool, thanks for that.
Yeah guys, anyone else, you know, you guys can keep asking.
We'll also cover the one of these
points we're really interested to talk about why we are doing 4-bit models yeah there's please go
ahead my question is in your roadmap which upcoming milestone do you believe the market
if currently undervaluing the most i want to know this.
So I feel definitely being an AI infrastructure company, you know, right now we were in a building spree be happy to say that we are you know able to provide more use cases with them we're able to provide better performance and we are doing that while you know keeping these models more efficient because our models are 4 bit and they don't need big infra
so once we deliver all these things in the next three months we definitely feel that we'll be adding a lot of value you know
as a company to the ai space whether it's for the enterprises whether it's for the developers
or whether for the you know community
thank you both Could you want to talk a little bit about your target market?
You launched a token, so you're targeting on Web3, I guess.
But how do you see that split between Web2, Web3, retail individual users
or organisations building on
your infrastructure.
Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
I'll be interested to hear. uh uh let me explain one by one uh the plan and uh the target market as we are the AI infra company first and
1.6 and buy is fundamentally a web to AI infrastructure company.
Our primary target market is the FSI, the banking sector uh government and developers building ai powered app
uh startup that need efficient model inference and of course the enterprise that require cost
optimized ai system research team working on long context and reasoning tasks that's the core
uh of one six and buy web3 is not just a core market, it's an ecosystem extension layer.
So that's something important and a very important line.
And I want to repeat again, like the extension ecosystem layer.
That's what we are trying to do here.
And how we split Web2 and Web3.
And how we split 2 and Web 3.
So if I tell you basically think of it as a two concentric circle, inner circle Web2, outer circle Web3.
Web2 is where product adoption happens and Web3 is basically our ecosystem coordination happens. So if I talk about web to focus majority 80 to 90 percent,
Alpi workspace, user, API customer,
AI startups, enterprise research collaboration,
education labs. This is where revenue,
users, product credibility come from.
If I talk about the web three focus,
that's the ecosystem layer,
power user, early supporter,
the developer contribution tool,
because since we are open source, community member,
and future feature unlock alignment,
by support alignment for us, not the core demand.
And we are not pivoting to become a crypto company,
we are AI company that introduce a token layer.
That would be the focus.
So basically, Web3 gives us a programmable alignment layer here.
Instead of relying only on centralized incentives,
we can eventually create ecosystem participation
that is transparent and on-chain
as company already generating revenue.
So that's the focus was.
But product comes first, as I mentioned earlier also
utility comes second so and the mechanics comes last and if I talk about the long term the world
is moving toward hybrid system so that's what we are also doing, web to product infrastructure and web 3 coordination mechanism.
We are positioning early for that hybrid future,
especially in the A-infra, as there's no other company
positioning themselves the way we are working on.
So that's one of the bigger vision also,
bigger vision also and that's how we split it between web to web 3.
and that's how we split it between web to web 3.
okay understood and just just apologies maybe for misunderstanding but just um i'll just ask
the question again is the like will the um will obviously we people in this call have got interest
in obviously the token i know that's not your whole
focus. You've got the
Web2 business.
Will the
success and
potential revenues of the Web2 business,
will that drive
have any impact on the
by pressure of the token or demand for the token?
Are those two
intrinsically linked or are they siloed and i think are they separate uh could you repeat your question uh i can barely
hear you apologies sorry um if i was just wondering if obviously you talk about the web 2 um
business um obviously with a web 2 market and there'll be revenues that are generated
from that part of your business.
The model that you just described,
will that result in, I guess, demand for the Web3 token
or are they going to run kind of independently?
Will demand for the token only come from Web3 market
and Web2 revenue will be just part of your Web2 business,
if that makes sense?
No, of course, we'll increase the demand.
As I just mentioned, we have gone for the hybrid infrastructure
and it's an open source community what we are
building so that will obviously increase the demand and we are
already seeing it. The early adapter also here, so that's why
the plan was and that's how we come up with this thought of
when we were starting. So we already seeing it so it's not
independent. It's actually like I said, a company ecosystem rather than
PI working separately and LP working separately.
No, it's basically one thing.
Eventually we'll mix it and come up with more use cases,
which we already mentioned in the last CMA and the use cases.
We already working on few right now.
And I think Chirag was adding something.
So please shut up.
So I think what we found interesting was that, you know,
which we guys have been noticing that, you know,
it will be a good decision to interlink this later on.
But I think we keep saying this that, you know,
we are an AI infra company
and we are building for the world from India right now.
So again, our focus is completely
that right now growing as a company fundraising getting more enterprise clients getting more
adoption for our models so that is our focus was but if we look at it moves very transparently with
the coin pie so once these things happen obviously the adoption grows for pie as well uh there will
be more credibility for us as well as for pie so you know once these things happen we'll also be
able to invest uh you know amount of money in the growth of pie and doing more partnerships over
there we are very early we see it as a coin you know we are just a month old coin and but
still you know we have grown a lot as a community and we hopefully plan to do so and we keep saying
that you know next three months will be exciting because we know what we are building and to be
honest we are much more excited for it than the daily charts right now because crypto is going
to stay so is ai so you know we are looking here for the
long run and how we can make uh pi parallel to 160 and buy yeah and as i already mentioned and
you asked this question also uh bfsi is our biggest market banking financial service and
insurance and that's where we want to introduce crypto and the coin which we are working which we already
have so the integration would be easier because that's where we play a lot and already company
focusing on those kind of clients so it will be a easy integration there
Sounds cool. Thanks for the answer. Appreciate it.
sounds cool thanks for the answer appreciate it
Hello, Chirag.
Yeah, please.
I want to know how do you plan to maintain perf mover advantage if the sector become crowded?
And are you focusing more on organic growth, strategic partnership or performance driven marketing i want to know this
i think yeah definitely talking about first mover advantage uh that can still be faded away but if
there's a tech mode advantage that can stay for a very long time so we are focusing much more on
that our models are very efficient they are four-bit models and the best thing about them is
you know they are 4-bit and still able to you know have the performance of the 16-bit or 32-bit
models that's what we have worked on and is kind of our recipe and we are also coming up with our
own frameworks and other things which will make us you know like the you can say anything you want to build on lower
bit you will need to use our framework something you know that we are cooking and working around
so that's one thing so of course we are focusing more on the tech mode advantage instead of the
first mover advantage and secondly right now we are definitely growing organically uh we are still yet to be funded so we are
focusing more and more on organic growth all the partnerships and the big enterprise deals and
other things that we have done is organically through the products we are building through
the tech we are building and they have shown the kind of uh you know they have shown the trusts and
they really like the things we are building so that's how we plan to grow right now and not create a hype.
And when you check it out, there's nothing concrete that the company has built.
So we don't want to fall into that space.
We are very much focused on what we are building and we'll continue to do so.
Thank you, Farah. I know my answer right now. Thank you.
Yeah, guys. Anyone else will be also happy to just have a conversation if there's no questions.
Really excited to have a word with you guys. It's mostly on Telegram or X.
I would love to have a chat as well.
Canj, can you say something? you
Did you mention something about I think I saw an update somewhere along the line that you were doing a you're planning an app you want to tell us a little bit about what that's um
going to look like or what the intention there is in the um you know definitely definitely i think
we have mentioned it before and i think good you mentioned it it was already something that i wanted to discuss as well so alpa is right now live on the you know web platforms as well as on phone
but for wider adoption we definitely needed a phone application whether it's on android or ios
so it's already for approval and you know we are waiting for their verification approval right now
we have already done all the
part from our end so this is something which we feel will give a lot of more users to elpi we
already have thousands of users and we are planning to go up to millions of users because
if we compare it with performance elpa is also performing really good compared to the international
ai assistants and, we are
not just an AI assistant. It is a collaborative workspace tool that can be used for real-time
collaboration. Definitely great research as well as you can probably use it for your file dumping
and getting more insights and analysis from that. We are definitely working on that.
Our application is in review.
We are getting in touch with their team to get it reviewed as soon as possible.
I think that will give us a lot of new users coming to Elpi.
Cool. Thank you.
Yeah, guys. I uh waiting for i see you know all these active people that i see on telegram
happy to answer any of your questions or just have a chat guys Any more questions guys as we are seeing very less question this time last time I think
we had more questions.
Happy to answer.
Or anything else which you guys want us to work on
or something which we missed out or any suggestions.
Happy to hear those also.
Happy to hear more advice or suggestions.
We are completely open.
So please, you guys can come up with that also.
One thing I would say respectfully,
I think I mentioned it maybe in Telegram a couple of times,
but just one thing I think would be nice to see is a bit more,
just maybe a thought on the communication channels.
Because I know you tend to post sort of ad hoc
from your personal accounts, which is X accounts,
which is cool if people are already following you.
But I guess in terms of just, you know,
sort of creating brand and having like
a centralised communication channel,
coming off the main account would probably,
just to my mind anyway,
would probably be a bit better
than obviously you can retweet or whatever
from your personal account.
It just seems a little bit fragmented at the moment
and I guess anyone coming in new
has to search around quite a lot
to try and find different bits of information.
I'm not even sure the main account has got the Telegram group on it.
Just little things like this might really help just, you know,
make life easy for people that are doing their e-search
and trying to find out about Alpine.
Definitely, I mean, Thanks for the suggestion and definitely we want to make this much, much better where we are able to communicate better.
We are continuously updating new things and posting it.
As we are more focused on building in last 20 days has been quite busy for us as we were
part of the A ANDI summit and we
presented a model and we are signing more deals with other people.
So there's multiple things where we are focusing on but I completely agree and we are trying
to work more on this side where we keep our communication better and try to update more
things from our channel and we are also talking to the.
Uh, uh, the X team as the, you can see they have given me the golden thing instead of one 16 by that's the contribution happened from their side.
We are still working on that part where they switch it and they are still in the process.
So we are waiting for that also.
that also great thank you so I think some of you guys are mentioning on the telegram group to talk
Great.
about the questions that a few people dropped on our post so I think we'll cover some of them some
of them are really interesting questions so i think crypto
england asked us that you know he said that we'll be happy in three months with what's coming but
can you give the community some breadcrumbs of news that what that might look like so i think
we have been mentioning that we are coming up with a few additional models. State of the art models, 4-bit.
So again, making 4-bit models is not something that is easy or a lot of companies are doing.
If we look at it, it is very challenging.
Either a model can become really good and efficient and in most cases it can fail.
But somehow we have failed a lot before coming up
with lpy core so we kind of cracked what to do and what not to do so again you know in these three
next three months we you will see a lot of more enterprise deals with 160 and pi you will definitely
see more products and more frameworks dropping whether it's on our github or on hugging face so
you will definitely see these new things that we are building and coming up with i think the
benchmarks and the performance of these models will talk for itself and i don't want to talk
about it right now so these are the few things that will be coming in three months of course we
will be uh you know dropping more details and updates
will be shared on telegram as we go ahead but these are the few things that will happen
uh another question that we saw was that are you looking at the possibility of listing on any top
centralized exchange in the foreseeable kind of yes uh we had a word with btcc as well as others uh right now the coin
is very young uh for a lot of these uh you know centralized exchanges it does not follow the
minimum requirements so once we see that you know the trading volume is high the coin is doing much
better and the coin is old enough for them to trust us.
Once we follow these few requirements, we will be considering it and seeing it. But again, we'll
be discussing it with the community. We'll be having a word with you before we go ahead and
then only we will be taking these decisions. Yes, and I think there's one more question that again, I think it's scripting learned
that what will be done with by collected through the platform.
And we discussed this, but I'll answer it again.
Like that's quite a very important question.
First, we are not designing by around staking, APY, or artificial field mechanism.
Our goal is to keep it product-native and sustainable.
When Pi is collected through platform users, meaning users spend it for credit or access it,
it will primarily serve three purposes.
Support ecosystem operations, support platform infrastructure costs,
support long-term ecosystem development.
Basically, that's how it will work.
If any supply management mechanism like burn, treasury, allocation or liquidity strategy are ever introduced, they will be transparent and publicly documented and compliance aligned
as we follow compliance very strictly.
So that's how it will be integrated
uh also other question that is there on the telegram as by dachi d is uh what about the
allocation so i think we mentioned five to ten percent of allocation of
pi we already own almost one percent of pi uh we talked with the orinth team regarding the five
percent that they had to provide and they said that they are not uh you know helping us uh out
with that and that was their um kind of a beta what beta program or something that they were
testing it out so some coins were lucky
enough to get the 5% but we were not so as promised we'll allocate Pi for sure does not
matter what the price will be at that time right now our focus and more of our expenses
based on the gpus as well as the things that we are building, we will slowly accumulate a little amount of Pi unless we reach to 5-10%.
And once we are in a good space, we can also probably accumulate 5-10% in just one go.
So we will definitely do that. It has been said multiple times.
And right now owning 1% also gives new users the freedom to accept that
the coin is not controlled by one single team and it is more for the community and people making
sure that the founders or the company cannot run away or cannot you know take a big chunk and just
go out of it so that's also one of that that was one of our strategy but i think a lot of you have
been very you know particular about us allocating so we'll definitely be looking into it and it's
something that we will be definitely doing it about time Any more questions guys
I think
There's less people this time compared to last time uh could
be due to the you know timing issue around the world but if there's no more questions we'll be
happy to answer the remaining questions on the telegram group and again we'll be hosting more
amas next time we'll know your opinion when most of the people are active so we can
you know host host an ama around that time so we see more and more people and we can interact more
have more of your questions otherwise we are always happy to answer your questions on x or
on telegram and you know you guys are always welcome there to come with your feedback, suggestions or questions as a family, as a community.
That's what we are looking for, that we all grow together and that's been our motive from the start.
Yes guys, and as you see, a lot of new things coming from 16NPA in the upcoming months.
As 16NPA is directly competing with big giants and the kind of work we put in the market.
It's something which not everybody is trying to do or could have done. done as if we are talking about our model the forward model and the recipe which we
sort of continue more in that lane and come up with more things and like Chirag already
mentioned the framework and more framework where you'll see more framework where will
be a use case of web 2 and web 3 together also in future that's also we're working on
so uh again i think thank you guys for your time we appreciate all of you thank you everyone i'm
very thankful for this community again we'll be posting more updates on the community.
A lot of new changes are going live on Elpi
regarding the kind of answers and how it works out.
We have improved that a lot.
So we'll be sharing that tomorrow
and you guys can check it out and let us know.
But thank you again.
And we'll be doing more of these.
So you can come up with your questions,
learn more about us on our website,
as well as on our LinkedIn.
So you will have more questions
about the things we are building
and why we have chosen this path of 4Bit
and efficient and sustainable AI.
But yeah, very happy to answer all these questions
otherwise as well on Telegram.
And again, thank you all for your time.
We'll see you next time for sure.
Thank you guys.
Thank you for time.
Bye-bye. Thank you.
