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Recorded: Feb. 18, 2026 Duration: 2:07:16Space Recording
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In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the evolving landscape of blockchain technology, highlighting the four-year anniversary of a prominent brand, the rise of AI in crypto, and the potential for significant returns in altcoins amidst a backdrop of market challenges and trends.
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Thank you. I was trying to put this fucking stuff in my earbud.
Good morning!
Oh, sorry.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Hello.
Hello.
Okay. I will be very honest. I was kind of feeling a little bit blah and not really looking to open the space.
But then I remember a few guys and how much our day together always makes everything better, you know.
So yeah, decided to open, fuck it, you know? So, yeah, decided to open.
Fuck it, you know?
Fuck it, okay?
I mean, I'm still far from where I actually want to be
in regards to this.
But I am more and more into those levels where,
whatever, you know, we do what we gotta do.
And the rest is just part of the story you know so yeah well I hope you guys
are having a great day let me share this with some friends and some of my girls because actually
the idea also about like let's get back doing spaces. You know, this is like me talking with myself, by the way.
The girl, I was talking with the girls,
which, you know, many of them at this point,
all of them said how they felt very nervous to join spaces
and, you know, got back to me remembering
how I also felt the same way when I was starting to join Spaces.
It's such a nervous experience, to be honest.
But then I was telling them, look, girls, actually, live streams is a lot harder, I think, you know.
I don't know if anyone here have, like like do these two type of content.
I started with spaces, but then I went to live streams and with the spaces, at least like no one is watching you.
So right now, to be honest, I am using my pajama.
It's a good image for you to imagine as well, but I didn't really like did anything in my hair.
I mean, always when in the live streams, you also see that I'm not very, I don't really do much as well.
But regardless, I'm worse right now.
That is what I'm trying to tell you.
And yeah, I mean, at least, yeah, I can be talking here. And if I feel nervous, which in the beginning is what exactly happened,
okay, when I started joining Spaces back in 2022,
if I felt too nervous, I would just close the page
and pretend my internet rug.
That's, guys, that is the perfect, perfect, what is the name?
As it, as it, emergency scenario you know so if you never you never thought about this one it's very good okay uh have had the i have done many times
by the way when i was also like people called me to speak and i was way too nervous again i was
my english nowadays i still feel very you know nervous. Again, I was my English. Nowadays, I still feel very,
you know, nervous, but at the time was a lot worse. And yeah, sometimes someone would call me.
I would be so nervous that I would pretend I didn't hear anything, you know, and the space
would be like total silence with the person from space host, like calling me, Jana, Jana.
By the way, also a lot of people had a problem with my name.
So some people, I can still remember,
I think it was one of the first space that I was feeling more okay.
The guy was saying, Jana, Jana.
But of course, with a very American and weird accent.
I mean, not weird accent, you know what I mean.
And I was like, what the fuck this guy is calling, you know?
And then I think like after the guy saying many times something like Yada, Yona, I don't fucking know.
At some point, I realized it was me, you know?
And I started speaking and I was like, hello.
I mean, I couldn't figure you were talking with me, sorry.
But again, my English at the time was like the way more rust, you know.
So yeah, it's very hard when you are trying to communicate and you actually can't really say the shit you want to say.
Hey, Dar, how are you, brother? I saw you joining as soon as I opened as well. How are you going? Yo, GM, GM, Jenna, how are you? I'm good,
I'm good. Just taking the coffee. What about you? Yeah, you know, actually, I wanted to
sleep, but I remembered you going to have a space today so you know what i did i just drunk a coffee and now i'm here wow so yeah wow my hero that's for you bro thank you what time
is for you i'm so sorry if to make you stay up until late no it's totally fine no i'm a night
old so i stay away so it's totally fine what time is for you? It's totally fine.
Well, it's in Dubai, so it's around 2 something
here.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that's
around 2 a.m. here.
But I'm a night owl.
I'm fine.
It's totally fine.
How are you doing?
I'm great.
My morning is actually my prime time. I'm fine. I'm totally fine. Okay. How are you doing? I'm great, you know. I'm great.
My morning is actually my prime time. So as you have been seeing, like, the spaces, live streams,
I'm trying to do all of these in the morning here with you guys.
So I literally can give you the prime steak of Jana here.
So, yeah, I mean, literally just starting to take the coffee.
Nice. Nice. Enjoy, it's nice.
Enjoy it. Enjoy it.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to make another coffee.
I'm going to make another coffee.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
Let's go. I love coffee.
I love coffee too, bro.
I love coffee.
I mean, I don't take at night, to be honest,
but I know some people that they take at night and they don't give a fuck, you know. I just love coffee. I mean, I don't take at night, to be honest, but I know some people that they take
at night and they don't give a fuck, you know. I just love coffee.
Nah, don't give a fuck. I mean, come on, it's a coffee. I need to stay awake. I have a lot
of things to do. And yeah, let's fucking go. Let's create another. Let me cook another
one. Let me brew another one. What coffee do you drink?
What coffee do you drink?
So when I am at home, I just do, I don't know, is the filter type of coffee I do in this, I don't know the name.
Is that Italian?
You brew it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I brew it at the Italian something.
Italian.
Oh, mocha pot, you mean?
Oh, what?
What is that?
Mocha pot, they call it, something like that, I guess.
Mocha pot, yeah.
No fucking idea.
Somebody correct me.
Yeah, the Italian one, where they put it on there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You put the coffee down, the water up.
Yeah, yeah, that's a mocha pot, I think.
Mocha.
Oh, shit.
Such a hard name, Jesus Christ.
Let me look at this.
Actually, I do that.
Actually, I use that, but I prefer to add some milk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cappuccino, maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cappuccino is amazing.
To be honest, in Brazil, also very fun fact.
In Brazil, all of these, let's say, different types of creations with coffee is not really a thing in Brazil.
We also, our coffee is pretty shitty, by the way. We have mainly the filter coffee.
And yeah, that's pretty much it. You know, people just do the filter coffee.
They drink the filter coffee every fucking day.
Some take more strong, like really
fucking strong, and some are just more like light, you know. But yeah, there is like this other mix
with, you know, caramel and then milk and then these other crazy things. Caramel macchiato,
you're talking about that. Caramel macchiato. Oh, that's also amazing. We don't really, I mean, we normally
people don't really do those things at home and not even close. So, yeah.
Well, good for you that I'm
actually, I know how to
brew some coffee. So I do a lot of this stuff when I'm free, actually.
That's so good, man.
I don't like the time that ended up taking me.
I don't have patience to be waiting.
But after it's done, I'm very happy.
I keep drinking and drinking.
But when I have to do again, it's never a good feeling.
But yeah, anyway, man, do your coffee.
I also need to take more for me.
Let's fucking go, man.
Well, guys, good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
We can maybe even think that as many of you might be after midnight,
it's already morning, so we can try to bring the same vibes here of morning.
Hope you are all having a great, great day.
I mean, it's Thursday.
Yeah, it is Thursday.
For you, it's the end of Wednesday.
I know I am preparing the future.
Don't worry.
But, but yeah, I mean, I open the fucking space.
Truly having like no script or anything like that.
Just looking to interact with all of you.
Yeah, I actually haven't also shared the post yet.
By the way, totally random as well.
I figured, I just realized actually that today it's 22, 23, 24, 25, 26,
four years that I created this brand and this account.
Totally random. I really had no, I didn this brand and this account. Totally random.
I really had no...
I didn't realize, I swear.
It was crazy.
Today, I was just looking at some of the content I should do.
And then I look in the...
I was looking at some documents in the computer.
And I saw these old pictures of me when I was doing like branding pictures for the brand.
And then I went to post. and then I look into the time
and I was like, holy shit, it's exactly today.
So yeah, happy birthday to Jana.
Drop comments, guys.
At least you drop a comment, say some love,
say, Jana, I love you so much.
Jana, I would like to marry you.
You can drop all of that in the comments
if you don't want to come here to say out loud.
And also retweet.
Why not, right?
Why not?
Today we are in a curious moment, curious feeling.
I see Coperto.
How are you, brother?
How to say your name, by the way?
I don't know. Coperto. Yeah yeah I think that's fine. Yeah, how's it going? How are you? You want to get married? So what do you want to do?
Bro, I just like to be invited to get married on Spaces. I have had many of these occasions
where I was invited to get married on Spaces. So I always just put the joke out there because it's just good.
Why not?
But how are you, brother?
I'm good.
I just came from work, actually.
For me, it's like past midnight, 13 minutes past midnight.
But it's fine.
I'm just going to wind down a little bit.
Then I'm going to go to bed, take a shower and go to bed.
You're from Australia, right?
Yeah, I mean, I am from Brazil,
but now I live in Australia.
That's correct.
That's so cool.
I've been to Australia, and to be honest,
it's one of my favorite places on the planet.
And it's one of the only places I would live in.
Oh, shit.
Like for real, man.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I love Australia so much.
It's all different man. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I love Australia so much.
It's all different than Europe and America.
I mean, yeah, I would just live in Sydney.
I would love to live in Sydney.
Where are you living?
In which city?
I am more in the north, close to Melbourne.
Oh, that's hot.
No, south.
Yeah, south, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, south.
Yeah.
Okay, south, south.
Yeah, all of Australia is is cool to be honest like
i don't remember the western part of australia how it was i was there for a little bit but mostly on
the eastern coast right like sydney and all those places like the further north you get it's so hot
right yeah it's so hot, man.
But nice, nice.
So you've been living there for how long?
It's just been one year next month.
Oh, yeah.
That's cool.
That's cool.
Listen, for you, you said you're from Brazil.
It was hard getting a visa?
My brother, as a Brazilian, we can't go to any place, any place,
without being able to, I mean, not being able,
but you have to show you are going back,
you have to show you have money to stay there
for the particular days you are going there.
It's always a crazy experience.
So here for Australia, no, it wasn't something easy,
but we had the possibility to get a visa from my partner.
So because of that, it was, let's say, I won't say easy.
It still then was very fucking hard.
They want, wow, it's insane the amount of information
and stuff you give away.
But yeah, I mean, it's for me,
it's the first time I'm living in a rich country, okay?
So the experience is, wow, you know?
Since the moment I got here until now,
of course, I mean, in the beginning,
also a lot of culture difference and stuff like that.
As I have been traveling a lot, it wasn't that, you know, the heat wasn't so like strong when I first got here.
But still then I felt a little bit, you know, how people are different, how things are different.
In the same time, they are so gentle, not gentle, but they are so kind and so open,
but also so cold, you know, for example, in Brazil.
And also, I think I wanted I will generalize to Latin America.
But of course, keep in mind, it's more Brazil that I have experience.
Everyone will smile at you in the street.
Everybody will, you know, try to help you or talk with you.
But sometimes almost in an invading way, you know,
they are too much trying to do some stuff for you.
So that becomes too much.
When you compare for, I'm pretty sure many places,
US and Europe is most likely very similar.
And then here, people in the street, they will not
really like be looking, they will not like change eyes with you and then smile or, you know,
say stuff to each other, good morning, this type of stuff, which in Brazil is more like, I don't
know, people are just a little bit more, I don't know, looking to have interactions. But at the same time, now that I also understand the difference,
people here in Australia, they are extremely, extremely people, people person, you know.
All of them love to talk.
I don't know if you felt that when you were here, but they are really into, you know,
let's sit down, let's, you know, let's sit down, let's talk about whatever.
They are pretty good into that.
And that is something in Brazil I was already pretty shitty,
not something that I felt very good doing.
And yeah, I mean, it's similar to US,
which they have a lot of these quick talk, right?
And they are talking about fucking anything.
But here is like they are even more
naturally doing that thing without talking about anything. It's so, so weird.
No, I get it completely. Like, I remember once I was like by myself walking around the city,
once I was like by myself walking around the city and this random guy just came up to me
and he asked for directions to where was the guy I don't know I don't remember where he was asking
to go but I said my bro I'm not even from around here you got the wrong guy but I checked I checked
my phone right and apparently it was kind of of like in the same direction that I was going.
So I said, okay, just join me.
And the guy was with his kids.
He had like two boys, two young boys.
And I don't know, we walked for like 15, 20 minutes.
And I got to talk to him a lot.
He was telling me like where he was working,
like the situation with his kid's mom and all that stuff.
And this guy was like a random person on the street.
I never saw him again after that ever.
And I probably never will.
But I know exactly what you mean.
Yeah, this was a pretty interesting experience because I'm from Europe, right?
And it's not the same as
as in australia obviously europe is more um how should i put it like more
more focused more dynamic right i don't know if you guys been to europe or not or maybe you're
from europe it's more crowded at the same time yep Yep. So yeah, man, Australia is the place to be for sure. I love it.
And I also went to New Zealand, which is also amazing.
I definitely think you should go to New Zealand and visit.
You're going to love it.
It's a little bit colder, but trust me, you're going to love it so much.
Love. I love cold. That is the first thing.
So I went to New Zealand for a crypto event super early when I just had arrived here in Australia.
I had an event with Maxi there.
And then I went to New Zealand.
Man, I was, to be honest, my things with crypto and conference many times is about visiting the place.
And of course, there is a conference as well new zealand was one of the ones that i was like wow i truly want to go
there again for someone from brazil the idea when again younger and younger thinking about going to
new zealand uh is something is so far away is so so far away you is so, so fucking far away, you know.
So I was definitely like, I mean, I definitely want to touch on New Zealand and be able to, you know, have that realization.
But to be honest, I went to, what is the name?
It's Queen...
Queenstown.
Queenstown.
Queenstown, yes.
Yes, Queenstown.
Queenstown, yeah.
Queenstown, yeah.
I always, I confuse because there is also Queensland that is here in Australia,
that's more in the north, right?
I went to both of them, but yeah, in the Queensland, no,
Queenstown in New Zealand, it was like, oh my God,
the most beautiful place I have ever, ever visited, you know? Like, it was insane, insane, really.
I was just like, holy fucking shit, you know? Now I understand. I mean, it's good that these guys are
fucking far away from the rest of the world, so no one can really fuck this place too much,
because it's so incredible, incredibly beautiful.
What I think...
What was the other thing?
I think I forgot.
You still there? Did you run?
No, no, no, no. I'm trying to think.
I was going to say something about something you mentioned about the people and the stuff in Europe and the way they are here.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The stuff you were saying regarding people just like talking,
you know, being able to talk with you,
tell their whole lives and stuff and, you know go apart it's so fucking funny and also one thing
that they do quite a lot here and I'm like man what the fuck these guys they I mean people in
general they come and then they say see you later and literally this is for like anything. If I go to a bookstore to buy a book and then, you know, I go to the cashier, the guy that I will pay.
I pay and then the guy pretty much say always see you later.
And I am like, bro, I will not see you later.
You know, this is almost like those movie scenes where you are telling that you're gonna
see me later because you're gonna you're gonna um uh what is the word you're gonna not steal me but
you're gonna kidnap me you know what i mean so i am like bro no we won't see each other later
no but yeah they see that a lot and And nowadays I'm just like, fuck it.
We're going to see each other later. I don't give a fuck. So see you later, you know. But again,
man, it's like so fucking hard. Like I'm really, and by the way, these spaces also,
I'm trying to be more comfortable with silence. It's very hard for me because I am introvert,
but at the same time, I'm very anxious.
So when I am having an interaction with other humans,
I get extremely nervous about the interaction itself.
And I ended up like, oh my God,
if there is any moment of silence, I will freak out.
You know, again, people here, they are like,
they just keep like 30 seconds
looking at each other in the face,
smiling or just like, I don't know.
I feel so uncomfortable and nervous
while we are doing that, you know.
Joey, my man, my brother,
how are you?
Are you there?
How are you, my love?
How are you doing?
I'm good. I am very, very good.
I'm very better now. What about you?
I'm doing so much better now when I hear you.
I knew it. I knew it. What time is for you?
It is 11.30 in the evening, almost midnight.
11, 10, 10, 10.
Okay, 11, 1130.
Which part of the states are you in again?
I don't remember.
I'm in the Netherlands, which is not a part of the states.
Oh, wait.
No, no.
Wait, you said Netherlands.
Yeah.
Netherlands is accentually or I am freaking, I'm crazy.
No, I'm not crazy.
Well, you're a little bit crazy, but not about this.
Okay, Netherlands is a country.
Yes, of course it is.
Of course it is.
Why?
Okay, I know why it was so, I was sure.
Because I forgot the, your PF PFPs from what is the collection?
What is the guy there?
Monk.
They are heavily US, right?
Yeah, heavily US and Australia.
Yeah.
Australia?
Yeah, they actually have a NFT collection like IRL collection and a gallery somewhere in Queensland.
Yeah.
Holy fucking shit, man. That is so cool.
I have no idea.
One of the first NFT galleries, actually.
Yeah.
What the fuck, bro? It's so interesting.
I still have a lot to figure out about Australia.
It's very, very funny.
But just let me know, I see some true people also asking. I don't think you guys are crazy or anything like that.
But you don't even follow me, so I can't put you up here. That is disrespectful.
Gina, I see you. If you can come up, let's have a chat, my princess. If not, that's okay. I still keep loving you.
But man, Netherlands, I wouldn't expect to be more late on Netherlands at this moment.
No, it isn't. It's 1130 and I can't really change it.
Are you sure you can change? Like you can't do anything?
No, maybe when Daylight Saving comes up again.
But only for a few months.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I don't know. Maybe we should do something about that.
Because, yeah, I was expecting to be late.
Yeah, it's fine. I'll just move closer to you.
I'm gonna go with that. See you later.
Maybe I'll kidnap you.
No! Yeah, man. I'm still trying. Yeah, I'm still trying to deal with these interactions
with the Australians. They are so funny. I love them. They're the best people in the world.
Oh, yes. They are. Guys, I mean, some of them, of course, I'm just, and by the way, I like to
always mention these things.
So people never are like taking things that are disrespectful or whatever.
I mean, yeah, I don't give a fuck.
I truly don't know.
It's just like how things look for people that are from these different countries and places.
Like I'm from Brazil. So getting here and looking at these guys where, first of all, many of them have not short hair, it's like long hair.
And they use the long hair like in a kind of 80s style, you know.
It's something that impacted me at first.
And then this one I will say, I will mention because it of the one that I'm still trying to do.
OK, in the gym, in the gym, these guys, especially here in Australia, I have been seeing this.
They they use stuff that is very tight, you know, shorts and pants that are very, very tight.
You know, the type that only we would see women using in Brazil.
And then they are they also make some stretching, some stretching exercise that, guys, I swear to God,
I wish I could just have a gift.
I tried to find a gift that could like explain but something like, let me try to explain quickly.
It's just like you in the floor and then you get one of those balls, you know, small ball,
and then you put in front of your abdator, you know, your leg,
and then you start like pushing against the floor.
So it's like you are almost like trying to, ah, you, I think, yeah, maybe you get the
image I'm trying to do here. But yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of very, very, very funny. But yeah,
they don't give a fuck, you know, they don't give a fuck. And that is the beauty, the beauty. They
truly don't give a fuck. And that is the best thing in people in general. It's very hard to find nowadays.
People are very judgmental and they are like, yeah,
they feel disrespect about the other.
I mean, no one gives a shit.
And I think here they are pretty good into that.
Oh, I totally agree.
It's been a while, but I lived in Australia as well for a year,
but they're the best type of people you can find.
I loved it.
You need to come to Australia again because now I'm here.
That's why I'm scared to go, actually.
No, don't be like that. Don't be like that.
We are going to make Australia great again together.
Aww.
I mean, I love it. I love it. Maybe we'll take Gina as well.
Baby, thank you so much for joining. Last time you joined but you couldn't speak. How are you?
Hi, I'm doing fabulous. How are you?
I'm good. I'm good. Just chatting, having, you know, a good time in my morning.
What time is for you, baby?
It's 2.30 in the afternoon.
Oh, oh, shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These fucking time zones make me crazy.
Me too.
Me too.
The one fun fact that I loved is when I got into crypto,
everyone would say GM, GM at all these times.
And I'm like, I don't understand.
And they said, because it's worldwide, it's all the time.
So then I got in the habit of doing it.
And then at 8 o'clock at night, my time, I would write GM, because GM gets the most responses, the best replies.
And then people would be like, it's not morning, Gina.
Are you just waking up?
And I'm like, no, I'm in crypto.
Everyone's time is GM for someone.
So, yes, baby.
Yes, there's always GMs to someone.
So we just go to the GM.
GM worldwide, baby.
I love that.
I just go to the GM.
I don't give a fuck these days.
But actually, to be honest, if it was night for me,
I would not be able to be excited and then saying GM.
My body, I'm a very old style,
so my body really feels like morning, afternoon and night.
Getting late in the night, I need to sleep, take my tea at the bed and sleep, you know?
Yeah, I'm, yeah.
But it's good with Australia, the time zone so different allows me to literally be here with a lot of energy.
In the time, majority of the world is still, you know, afternoon, night.
We definitely need to see this thing on Netherlands because that time is definitely wrong.
We need to put a little bit later, okay, to make sense in my mind geographically.
But yes, that's fine.
Okay, I see Blue, Blue.
Do you want to speak?
Go for it, bro.
How are you?
I'm doing very well.
And how do you say it?
Jana?
Is that how you say it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
Okay, okay.
Well, I was interested.
I was sitting down in the listener section.
I heard you make a reference towards the see you later comment.
And I felt compelled to come up here to give you a little bit of relief.
Culturally, if somebody in a business setting says, see you later, it's them
expecting you to be a return customer.
So, so don't, don't worry about it.
Nobody's coming to get you crazy.
It's a cultural thing.
That's all.
And now that we've formally been introduced, I can follow you.
See how that works. It's good, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. I'm also following you. First of all,
man, thank you so much for this information. I swear. I truly, no one have ever like at least
mentioned, maybe someone mentioned to me and I just forgot, never really stick to my mind.
Maybe someone mentioned to me and I just forgot, never really stick to my mind.
Now it makes a lot of sense.
The see you later on the stores makes sense.
Yeah, because maybe from the Brazil.
I mean, I don't know because it's like the translation, the translation in Portuguese was never used.
We don't use that in that scenario ever.
You know, it's just too weird.
But now with that contest makes way more sense.
So, yeah. Thank you so much, man.
We are living and learning.
You're more than welcome.
And is this room pretty interested in crypto?
I see some crypto natives.
I heard a little NFT conversation.
I mean, we're all being suppressed by the weight of of bitcoin seeing if it's going to reach us that 6502 wick right because usually like crypto is weird
you get like a little wick candle and people think it's done but traditionally you'll follow
up with a solid candle that retests the wick structure and then generate some support so
i know everybody in here whether you're er ERC20, Solana, Bitcoin,
whatever your fancy is, and we're waiting for some better days.
And if you think about it, we have a compression of time
to where small dips in the market are opportunistic
because traditionally in America,
you're still going to have that sell in May go away, right?
It's not going to be all-time high.
So if somebody says that, just block them right out. But it'll be higher than the prices that we're tangoing with now so so whatever floor of support
we get selling may go away crypto's elastic right i mean you got to give a little give and take for
a week or two it might be the first week of june whatever that may be but in my opinion somebody
that has spent a little bit
of time here, I just got a little bit of time here. But with that being said, yeah, it's, you
know, good things, weather to storm guys, you know, future favors the bold and the brave. And if
you're here, you're still grinding and you're trying to build, there's no better time than now
when the crickets are chirping. And then when retail and the attention economy comes back, you can capitalize on all your hard work, your sweat and tears, right?
And laughs, laughs. You got to laugh during times like now. It's great medicine.
Oh, bro. That was so good to hear. Actually, I was waiting to get my ledger to buy more.
But now after listening to you, I will take the time while we are here and I will be buying more. Because I totally agree with everything that you are saying. Also from, let's say, the people that I trust that have been in this space for a very long time, let's say the people that I allow in my mind to give me financial advice.
I allow in my mind to give me financial advice.
We all believe similar things when it comes to how things will go this year.
It's still right now we are in a very, very prime rib of the market.
Prime rib because the prices are very, very good.
I know some people call moments fucking different.
They like to call the moment that the price is up as something good.
But the thing is, when the prices are up, to be honest, it's actually very hard to be making money if you are not a trader, right?
You have had to invest before, so then you are able to capitalize in the moment we are up.
When things are up, also from this last year, I can tell you that things were quite weird in the market.
I don't know if many of you have felt.
Maybe Gina and I think Joey also have some, let's say, marketing and projects relationship.
Things have been quite different in the last year while we were having more happy moments.
Projects were very, I don't know how to explain, they were just weird.
Hesitant, yeah.
Yeah, that's the word.
Well, we're not going to have a capital rotation, right?
Like everyone thinks the altcoin season and it used to be this way.
Historically, you'd have a capital rotation out of Bitcoin.
Bitcoin dominance would dip.
Altcoins would rally.
I'm kind of going off a different thesis.
Well, nothing has been traditional about these these these last 15 months.
Nothing.
There's been too much uncertainty to follow the regular structures,
the regular cycles.
Geopolitics, political instability, tariffs, so much market manipulation,
much more than we've ever seen before.
So yeah, it hasn't really been traditional.
So I agree with you.
Yeah. I mean, we had SBF Voyager crash we had Terra Luna de-pegging I mean in 2021 going into 2022 we had a slew of things we had the
SEC chasing every single digital asset the most notorious one would have been XRP you had Coinbase
lawsuits suing the SEC and then I don't know china banning crypto multiple
times leading back to may what 29th of 2021 which really kind of gave us a little bit of a weird
trend when it came to our uh meme coins and all season um but i think and and i'll land the planks
i don't want to take up too much time, but I do love giving people some pearls
and communities that are still here fighting,
keeping the lights on in this place.
My vision of what an altcoin market's going to be
is once Bitcoin finds some feet, right?
We got to get feet underneath it.
We really want to develop a support level.
Remember, crypto's elastic.
We want to develop that support from the mid-67s
up to mid-69s. Because our next test is a 72.5, 72 is elastic. We want to develop that support from the mid-67s up to mid-69s.
Because our next test is a 72.5, 72.8.
We got to pop through that to be able to take the numbers we're looking at now and look at it in a rearview mirror.
But to get back to the alt season, prices are not going to go back to all-time high.
Not anytime soon.
And I got some beautiful examples, right?
Shiba Inu never got back to all-time high. Dogecoin never got back to all-time high um not anytime soon and i got some beautiful examples right shiba inu never got back
to all-time high dogecoin never got back to all-time high pepe never got back to all-time
high and there's several more but with the correlation of prices meaning if the gravity
of bitcoin pulls our assets down we experience a repricing right so? So if let's say Ethereum at one point was 4,800, 4,700 to 69,000 Bitcoin when it was still proof of work back in 2021, well, now there's a new price correlation, right?
So where does Ethereum lie when it comes to the price of Bitcoin at 69,000?
So those have modified and changed.
But as the gravity of Bitcoin decides what direction it's going to go,
our altcoins are going to compress.
And within that compression, off that compression level,
is where we're going to see 30%, 40%, 50% returns,
possibly 80% in a two, three-week, one-month compounding return.
So you will be able to outperform the
bitcoin market but it'll be short term it's going to be very volatile it's it's that's when it turns
into a creative mindset and you have to uh you know it's a trader's game at that point right but
but that's what i think that we you know i'm just giving my opinion. For me, I'm certain. But for the people, I want to throw that opinion clause out there is that once we see a full support level developed for Bitcoin, which we don't have in these ranges, right?
Because it just shot right through 69.
69 was a very peculiar number after we did our road to 126.5.
But with that being said, yeah, there's still be some opportunities in the altcoin market,
but it's going to depend on when Bitcoin decides to generate a foundation, you catch that fallen
knife and then you can reap the rewards of more percentage growth in altcoins than you
see in traditional Bitcoin response.
Everything you said, I myself totally agree and believe in the same style.
Also what Joey said, there is anything traditional and normal about this last cycle,
this last few months.
So everything's been different.
But I think this shakeout was very, very needed, you know.
But yeah, we also, some people will also be mentioning how much the whole meme coin space have fucked up many altcoins, potential and stuff and be here and there.
I think at the end of the day, the market will do whatever the market will do.
Coperto, I saw you had your hands up a little before, man.
Go for it.
Yeah, thanks.
Just to piggyback off what blue collar said
yes i was just taking your name to be honest i think everything is right on track i mean
what i'm saying is nothing can go up forever right everything needs correction and talking about
what happened in crypto in the last couple of years well to be honest i see a lot of
innovation i see rwas i see more and more chains some of them still being here some of them are
not here anymore we had like info5 what else we had we had plenty plenty of new things man
a lot a lot of innovation going on and yeah maybe altcoins did not do what we thought they're gonna do and you
know reality is not usually in our head right that's the thing i mean just because we think
something is not necessarily going to happen right we have to make it happen i'm pretty much
like all into bitcoin i don't buy anything else and i learned my lesson why
and from my point of view bitcoin is really healthy right now and it has been healthy since
inception and like i said earlier it's not gonna go up forever no way jose some people need to take
profits the miners need to take profits people who bought at the lows need to take profits uh people who bought at the lows need to take profits
and i see this completely completely normal i don't know if it's gonna go up or down i have no
idea i'm not a trader by any chance all that i know is that i know what i believe in i know what
bitcoin is and i know that i'm buying more and the lower lower it goes, the more I'm going to buy, to be honest.
Because I honestly don't see anything else that's worth buying.
Because, yeah, you're going to tell me like, oh, but ETH, supercomputer, stuff like that.
Well, I'm sorry, but ETH can be manipulated.
Bitcoin cannot.
Can I ask you a question?
Or, well, this other room as well, but I'll ask you first.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, because you just brought up miners, and I was told it costs $90,000 US to produce one Bitcoin.
So what would that do to Bitcoin, like, at these levels, etc.?
At these levels, you mean particular in this range like
60 or whatever we are? Yeah I mean well really anything less than 90 because if you have the
miners and it's costing 90k to produce one like what does that do to Bitcoin? No to be honest I
think the people who the miners actually really sold their Bitcoin, but this is my opinion, right?
I think they sold their Bitcoin way above 100.
And what that happened is, again, my opinion, it caused the cascade, which currently brought us where we are.
Because if you're going to see Bitcoin dumping from like what, 120 to, I don't know, maybe it's going to go to 100 in a day or two.
You're going to have something that's very common in society, emotions.
People are going to freak out.
The guy who's in Japan is going to sell his coins.
The guy who's in Romania is going to sell his coins just because they see a little bit of volatility i don't know if it's the case
but i'm assuming that the miners sold like long time already and they're in profit already i hope
this helps okay does anyone else have any thoughts on that yeah gene if i can touch on that real
quick it's actually 73 000 in electrical costs without computing power and stuff of that nature. So we're right around that range.
And what happens, and a lot of people don't realize, is that Bitcoin miners traditionally
actually shut down multiple times a year. It doesn't matter what it is. So a lot of people
think that Bitcoin hash rate just, the hash rate continues, but the large scale mining actually stops when it turns into the negative.
They slow right down.
They maximize what they've been able to collect through block rewards.
They sell it, but when they sell it, they sell it to OTC.
So it doesn't move the price at all.
OTC transactions do not move the candle a a centimeter it doesn't turn it
green doesn't flip it red it does nothing it's kind of like selling an nft without listing it
on the floor now it's like me hitting you up in the dms okay yeah i really like your nft i'm going
to give you two weeks you sell it to me it doesn't change the floor price of the NFT I just bought off you. It's a personal transaction.
I have a lot of NFTs that I'd like you to OTCU for 2Eth, actually.
I'm really glad that you offered that on a recorded space.
You're a really great guy.
We're going to have a really great friendship.
Let's go.
It's already happened.
I love it. I would say with institutions and again, they have coming in like crazy while we were pumping and a little bit before that.
And then a little bit in that period where a lot of other shit started happening in the world.
started happening in the world, Trump, all of those bullshit coins.
Trump, all of those bullshit coins.
After that, we start seeing the institutions, I will say freaking out,
but it's just emotions in a different portion, in a different way.
They are seeing all of this for the first time.
So it's quite, again, natural what we are pretty much facing i think tarik you put
your hands up first uh before but yeah go for it what what do you have to say about that yo
like i want to say gm but it's 2am for me and i love the talk so i jump up hello gina and jenna it's the best combo i ever seen in the names uh so uh i'm with
coperto and blue your name is so long man yeah i'm with them like mining a bitcoin right now is
between 65 to 70k with let's say the fixing and the electricity and the minor pc and yeah it's pretty much it it
will dump more and more like we are going to 45 50 in couple of months then we are going back up
at the end we are going back up uh the world is a lot of the world is depending on crypto to
let's say washing money and a lot of things so it's impossible to kill it it's super impossible
to kill it but we are always will dump after a beer market because like we hit uh like we hit
like we hit 80 hours we broke a lot of things a lot of people took their money a lot of new people
sold that tech like buy Bitcoin in 10k 20k 15k so yeah we will eventually going super down but
we are going back because the same people who won he will buy again and for anything uh i
saw a tweet today that as that the 20 million bitcoin mining will hit on march 17 i think and last 1 million will take 146 years more so we are pretty good i don't think we are going
to stay in this bear market more than one year or one year and a half and we are going back
i'm with kberto only two things you can buy in the life anything for me is dead like you can buy bitcoin and
is anything for me is super dead and no one care about solana or altcoin because there is no altcoin
it's shitcoin go for it scorpio you want to probably add something about that are you uh
Scorpio, you want to probably add something about that?
Are you a salami lover?
To be honest, I am.
You are my baby.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Watch what you're saying around these cards.
Okay.
Listen, a lot of people are building on different chains or tokens, sorry.
And yeah, so salami is here to stay.
And I remember when everyone was like, salanas for the poor, salanas for the poor.
And the joke was on them, wasn't it?
So never fake salami.
Everyone loves salami.
I love the chain.
I hate it. Like I was in Salana Maxi. Everyone loves salami. Salami. I love the chain.
I hate it.
Like I was in Solana Maxi.
Like I loved Solana so much.
But the chain is so much different than the token.
Because the people who hold the token.
It's Gen Z.
It's so much.
Like it's the kids who are trading mint coins.
That's why I hate the token right now.
Don't be sad for me.'m giving me dislike i can't help it i cannot help it you just faded gen z which you know i believe in these psychotic
kids the things they do the things they're creating i'm super here for it uh i'm trying
to learn how how they do all these things so quick.
But yeah, we're going to have a tip with that one.
Jesus.
We're going to have to...
Definitely, we will have time to see what they will do in the market.
But yeah, I mean, to be very honest, I also would have never really fade salami.
I would have just buy a little bit.
I mean, it's so fucking cheap these days as well.
So definitely would have bought a couple and just leave there.
My issue is with the ecosystem, really.
I think a lot of the bad stuff that we had seen in this space is just concentrated there.
But I'm not saying that wouldn't happen in other places as well. You
know, it's kind of humans are doing what humans do, which they shit, shit, like they fuck up
many stuff. So if it was not on Solana, they wouldn't be doing in any other chain that it
was cheap and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But hey, imagine if Ethereum had no gas fees,
what would have happened to...
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Mimcoin tried to make exactly what they have been making on Solana.
The difference is on Ethereum,
the poor guys,
I mean, not poor,
but just like no one that even the traders didn't saw the fun on trading
when they had to pay so much on the fees in the
moment you are also dealing with something that most likely will go to zero so yeah it's kind of
it is what it is but hey there you had your hands up to to for a long time go
well yeah i was he was talking about the first let's go to btc price what i'm thinking right now
what well like i'm in the middle east and you know there's a lot of stuff going on right now
you know with the united states like you know getting to strike iran in the few days and that's
actually an unfortunate thing but it's going to happen and that's going to affect uh the btc price
a lot i mean now even if you like we don't like it we don't like war we hate war but that's gonna
happen in the upcoming future and unfortunately uh there's gonna be a lot a lot of a lot of
going on here and BTC will drop at least to 40 000 50 000 I guess and yeah we're gonna see that
coming don't tell me it's not coming i believe it's gonna happen soon well with the
exactly the thing they they're gonna strike that's gonna happen and to my brother look um
paying a solana maxi or any chain maxi that's the thing we love blockchain uh the reason why i'm
here actually is not because no no i'm not a trader at all. I don't trade. But I'm here for the technology
and what's going to happen here.
And I see a lot of builders here in the background.
I have been connected with a lot of projects.
Ethereum, Base, Solana,
a lot of projects are building
and they keep building and they're doing.
A lot of NFTs are coming,
a lot of games, a lot of fun stuff.
And like Gina said, the Gen Z, they're building, they're doing a lot of NFTs are coming, a lot of games, a lot of fun stuff. And like Gina said, the Gen Z, they're building,
they're creating, they're using their creativity
to create new stuff and build new stuff.
So the technology is like the most important thing.
And you know, this year is coming, the 2026.
It's like you are seeing, you're watching AI agents are coming
and AI agents are going to have a lot of words to say in this new economy that's coming.
And so I believe that just keep building, keep creating. And that's the way it is, brother.
like sorry for going on my man first Ramadan Kareem have a second I'm with you 100% like I
love Solana so much like I would like super it's what it was the first token I hold ever.
But the meme coin thing, let's say it was the most disgusting thing I ever see because I hate meme coins and I hate trade shit coins.
And I hate to stay nervous because I hold token.
I can't go to sleep because I know it will go to zero in three seconds.
That's the main thing that made me leave all Solana and solve all my tokens.
Salami, Salami, that is the correct name. Salami, you left Salami.
But let me say, I won't say I hate meme coins.
Actually, as a younger creator, when I was in the beginning, I worked with many meme coins.
Sooner or later, I started to think and realize, guys, okay, that's amazing.
I love the vibes here.
It's awesome, This and that. But we are playing with real money and
in some cases, a lot of money that some people would be putting in this, you know, means.
And at the end of the day, it becomes very hard because, well, we take things to limit. We have
seen players PvP quite a lot. And well, that is pretty much the summary of what was the beginning of the end, right?
PvP mindset and PvP influencers, which there is a ton of them out there,
is the part that started to make the memes shitty and shitty, you know.
shitty and shitty, you know.
No issue about even paying KOLs,
paying influencers to be promoting
or giving more awareness about one particular meme.
But the issue becomes when these influencers
are actually involved in the supply location,
money, they are also being paid from the same supply,
and they will be dumping to be able to pay themselves.
So for myself, I never really asked or accepted to have a location from memes
when I worked with them in the past, because I don't want to dump in the fucking community, you know.
This is a very delicate ecosystem when it comes to a meme.
So I don't want to dump, but pretty much what we have right now,
and many communities accept and like that the influencers they follow do that.
These guys are receiving like 20, 30, 50K to talk about this meme coin.
Besides having supply, the moment the community start getting in,
it's just a matter of who will stand the last.
You know that game
where you put a fucking hell,
what is the flasher?
I don't know how it's flasher
in English.
It's the stuff you put to,
the Indians used to use
to kill stuff.
I think you know
what I'm talking.
They would have put to the sky
and the last person standing in the circle would win
because it's the one that had more guts to stay there.
But of course, the thing is coming back
and we'll take one of you guys.
So, MIM coins is very similar, you know.
These communists, they would have just like,
the last one standing here holding this coin will fuck up.
And that's okay.
Maybe, yeah, you have the prize of the one with more guts, but doesn't change shit.
Before we go going back to Blue, I just want to say,
I see my man here.
It's been a while that I don't talk with you.
Thief, how are you, brother?
Hey, Jana, what up?
How's it going?
I'm just chilling. I followed Gina in here i was taking a nap i saw a
text i was like okay let me come in there and say what's up but yeah what's up how are you have you
been training what have you been doing you've been living good what's going on always living good
always doing the work just being around studying working just doing the usual, just being around, studying, working, just doing the usual.
Also, I'm also organizing right now to be moving between places here in Australia.
But yeah, I have been training actually.
Today, I will have my second session in the physiotherapy.
My knees totally fuck up, so I'm still trying to deal with that.
But I'm training.
Truly like and enjoy the training. Also trying to do with that, but I'm training. I truly like and enjoy the training.
Also trying to do some strength exercise back in the gym.
But yeah, I have been very more chill, organizing some stuff.
Have been playing around a lot with Open Claw and now my AI Jana version.
You know, she's doing a lot of shit for me.
I see that. Can you tell me your's doing a lot of shit for me. So, yeah. I see that.
Can you tell me your experience about that?
I wanted to ask you.
Of course, Melo.
Let me just before give the, Blue, you want to say something most likely about the market.
So let's finalize on that.
Blue, go for it.
Oh, yeah.
I was just going to kind of throw a little joke out there.
I may be Italian, but I don't eat processed meat.
So yeah, no, but I do like Solana when it comes to the concept of this.
I heard a gentleman refer to the tech and this might help people understand.
Although we love meme coins, we love the culture.
Solana wasn't designed for meme coins.
That high volume, high frequency launching is a beta test.
In business, we call it proof of concept.
It shows that it can meet the demands of mass adoption use.
So Solana in the tech world, you actually have Helium.
They have a full functioning, you know, mobile service, cellular service outside of the Solana phone itself.
You have QR code instant purchases that you can use through web browser. You don't even need an on-chain transaction or you don't need a wallet transaction for it.
I go to Asia a lot.
And, you know, if you go to Thailand and things of that nature, it's full digital, 100% digital.
You can only have, if you've got enough money to enough money to go to seven 11, buy some groceries,
get some gas, but any big purchases do take place in the digital bot and through
a digital transactional layer. Um, so when you go forward, they also have builder
workshops. Um, it doesn't get as much promotion as it should here in the world
of DGENs, but Solana will actually help
you to build a full market to merchant transaction system that fully exists at the speed of Solana
and the efficiency and cost of Solana. So the meme coins, we love them, but it's a beta test
for what will be sold. I mean, I heard a gentleman say, you know, a year, year and a half,
and everybody has mixed views of what direction the market's going to go.
But what we have to recognize that will deviate from the traditional four-year cycle
is there's going to be a technological curve.
There's going to be an adoption curve.
Now, I'm not a fan of the of the clarity act and that's a whole different
conversation but once institutions get a green light to really use the tech etf isn't the tech
etf is just you know a little bit of exposure for people within their portfolios true mass adoption
is when the general public will be using it involuntarily. They're not even going to know that they're using the blockchain.
So, you know, assets like Solana, you know, VC backing used to be a dirty word back in the day.
But at the end of it, they're bumping elbows with the audience that we were not able to captivate.
We weren't able to market to anybody but, you know, the Gen Z.
You know, what kind of funny money they can come up with so to really fill those gaps and to take crypto to the next step it needs to be implemented and used in an involuntary way every single day
as simple as when we scan our debit card through it processing payment system at some
point those simple little transactions those touch to pay snapshot of a qr code that'll take place
on chain because you have to remember centralized exchanges are dead crypto assets when you're on a
centralized exchange i don't need a validator i don don't need a node. There's no hash rate.
There's no transaction.
It's nothing.
It's a dead asset that takes place on the market.
So it does affect the price.
But it doesn't reward the people that keep the chain going.
And that's what we'll need in the future.
That's what Bitcoiners are desperately looking for.
Like when you mentioned pretty soon we'll be down to the last million Bitcoin.
Well, technically, if none of those ever get mined, it's not really going to change the world of Bitcoin at all.
You know, we have more than a million that are lost.
There's probably only 17 to 19 million Bitcoin, even after mining that 21 million.
So with that being said, to keep the hash rate going, which you have to have, there needs to be a transactional layer within Bitcoin.
That's what like UDI and Taproot Wizards
and everybody tried pushing for and Ocean's Capital
and things of that nature
because the simple concept of minor rewards,
at some point, they'll be priced out of the market.
It won't even be worth it.
I know a lot of Bitcoiners are saying,
Bitcoin's a million dollars. I call poppycock on that because there's too much trade between
$65,000 and a million dollars. There's going to be capital rotation at the level of institutions.
Institutions don't care about peer-to-peer. Institutions don't care about banking the
bankless. They don't care about permissionless.
The Genius Act actually was more beneficial to permission stables than it was permissionless
transactions. And then the Clarity Act has legislation that states we are going to generate
an environment that is safe for banks and institutions. Now, that's not why we're here
to run away from the banks and the institutions.
We're supposed to be setting our own way, our own path,
our rogue, permissionless world of our money, our assets, when we choose.
So to generate a safe environment for the banks and institutions
is actually anti-defi.
So a couple little spider webs, some hoops to jump through.
It'll be interesting,
but shit, man,
I'll make a buttload.
I've already made a ton.
I'm happy enough.
I'll close this app tomorrow
and I'll go live over in Phuket
and just watch the sunset
as they bring me fresh coconut water.
At the end of the day,
a lot of this nonsense
that we scratch our head and say,
why?
We're beta tests.
We're the guinea pigs so that they can take the TPS and sell that to a market
that needs to rely on it at the same level of convenience, security,
and reliability as a traditional system we're trying to get away from.
That was definitely a mic drop there.
Actually, you know, I also have kind of a, not a theory or anything like that.
I respect, I think that a lot of people decide these things,
actually with a good feeling and the thought and the conviction,
they would love to not do anything with their life.
Like anything, I mean, just live in a place, you know, not having to worry about anything.
I don't know, trying to be more like, you know, before technology style, far from everything.
Wow.
Many of the times that I have talked with people with those convictions
and even for myself consider that, I always go back to the big questions, right? Like,
what is life all about if I had nothing to worry, if I had nothing to do? Before technology,
the worries were so much different. People had to think about what they are eating next,
about how to protect and about how to do this and that.
We created so many structures that now guarantees these things to us.
And we keep having more and more things.
more things like, again, it's still very early to be in a good country as Australia. Everything
Again, it's still very early to be in a good country as Australia.
here that they create is to make things easier, simpler, but it's already way above that point
where why do we need to save that much time or why do we need to not really be doing that thing ourselves? Why? My time is really that valuable?
You know, really? Really? So that is why, and that is here, and I truly don't talk much about this,
but that is why I think this new generation is so lost and so fucked up, because things are so
guaranteed, and so like, you know, you have safety, you have food, you have good shit,
you have literally every fucking thing ready for you.
So how they will not be fucking lost and be like, oh my God.
I mean, they don't even have the time to ask about the big questions in their mind.
What the fuck is my life all about?
Where I'm going when I'm dying?
They just keep scrolling and they will go from one thing to the other. Dopamine is like endless
out there. So that is a shame. But then just like so go back to the main question that actually,
I don't know, Gina, if you have been, if you have seen the things and
comments I did about AI and how much I was getting a little bit frustrated and my mind
definitely overthinking with, you know, how AI is coming and how this will impact and is already
impacting creators, not only Web3 creators, of course, but the Web2 creators.
Actually, during the beginning of this year, I have been very, like, losing myself and struggling,
thinking about the Twitter algorithm as well, changing all the fucking time.
I was really kind of going a little bit deep in my mind.
I won't say depressed.
I was just not really in my best energy trying to figure out what is going to be the future
of this place, because pretty much looking at Twitter right now and the way Twitter reacts
is literally an AI that now tell us we should be talking about these particular things here.
And if you are not, you will be penalized for that.
And pretty much that creates an engine that keeps going and going and going forever.
AI is feeding us what we need to feed them.
So the creators that are having great engagement are the ones that are feeding the machine
what the machine wants.
And then no one else is looking at your content, your shitty content that is not viral,
is not very educational, is not this. It's just a brand, right?
I find myself in a limbo that I never did viral content, never gave a shit about that,
that I never did viral content, never gave a shit about that,
never did also the best type of educational content
as some analysts and some guys have.
So what exactly am I in the middle of this?
I'm just a brand that is very, very unique myself, right?
But then how am I able to find people that might like myself and my brand and the different type of
sauces that I bring here to the table if no one is actually seeing my content, right?
So all of these questions got me into the...
No, no. Let me interject really quick.
Like, one thing I'll interject on on i think you have a lot of female
fans i would say every girl on crypto twitter is a fan of you in one way or another so you inspire
people and i'm not saying that lightheartedly i mean that with a heavy heart i mean you're like
a game changer so i think you have to give yourself a lot more credit we all get burnt out
especially if we're dealing with people that we've never met on the daily,
you know? So I just think you got a little burnt out, but I mean, you as a person, you're very
unique and special and like, you can do a lot of different shit. And like, I don't know, you're
very like, it's easy to connect with you from anywhere around the world. I feel like people
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when I was just trying to speak English.
When we, that's why I love going to the fucking conference.
When you have the moment actually to sit with people, have this interaction with them,
you are able to really show them and be there with them, have this connection for real.
And I love how this ended
up happening in the crypto space, because as a person that is kind of introvert and very,
I'm very weird. I love that we are able to have the more weird first moments here. And then once
I am out there, and we are able to connect in real life is extremely, extremely genuine and powerful and amazing, you know?
So I totally, I totally agree with you.
But yeah, I think, of course, I am a very,
I am a pain in the ass with myself, you know?
It's very hard, by the way, to find people to work with me
because I am very pushy and A lot of people ended up giving excuse. Even
myself, I give excuse as well. I think a lot of people, they don't know who they are. I think
that you know who you are and that's very respectable among a lot of people. And it's
hard to find somebody that's so real that's like a quote-unquote influencer. And I'm not even talking about looks.
I haven't even mentioned looks.
But if we go on that scale of things, I mean, you're killing it as well, obviously.
So it's like you have a lot of facets and things that you bring to the table.
So it's, yeah.
I kind of think that, I mean, I totally agree with everything you say.
I mean, I totally agree with everything you say. But I think, well, I, what I got from
Jenna's post is like, before, that's how I felt anyway. Before I, they did all these algorithm
updates, I was creating content because that's what I felt like posting. And then it changed to where, like, none of my people I was seeing, they couldn't see me.
And I was like, I don't want to have to, like, know science in order to post.
And now with the AI bots coming out, I was just like, what the heck?
the heck like okay what are what are we doing here like as a society almost is kind of how i
Like, okay, what are we doing here?
was feeling when i at least when i read your your post because i was feeling the same way
yeah um yeah it's just uh also with the growing of the the brand in the past and then also right
now with ai and everything that is happening with the fucking open claw and all of that, I'll go as well. It's been very, very, very, very, very,
very hard to connect with people, at least in the way that at least a little bit before all of these
changes I could still have, you know, at least being able to see some of the people that I'm used to interact or follow or be
around me on my timeline. Now this doesn't happen at all. I'm just thrown at me all of these
different bullshit or news or crazy stuff that makes you emotionally react. And many times,
all of those bullshit will generate you a lot of anxiety and a lot
of you know some bad feelings
but yeah I mean
it is about we being able to
zoom out and
see how much this is still all of
this game here
on the internet social media
there is a bunch more
things that go way beyond all
of this shit that we have here.
Hey, you want to
throw the hands up? Go for it.
You brought up
the AI stuff and how security
it's getting to be.
Actually, yeah. I don't know
if you saw it, but there's a new AI coming
up that actually
makes cinematic videos with top quality called called Sea Dance 2.0.
That's actually one of the craziest thing that like I'm going to like I think I'm going to have access to in a few days.
And that's AI is actually mind blowing. generates like a full like like see your like your favorite movies and it can just generate it
to an anime or an animation or or in a 3d something like that and actually the eye is getting really
crazy there and i'm seeing what's going on and yeah i i'm i'm sure you're just you how you are
you're so you're talking about agents in your channel and
tg so you guys you should check maybe i think everyone should start creating their ai agent
soon because the technology is crazy and at least get in touch with that and learn something in the
process because that's that's kind of really fun actually oh. Oh, yeah. I totally agree. I think we definitely, I will give some of my experience with OpenClaw.
I literally created the Gena AI.
And it's been, you know, fun and crazy and quite, yeah, it's just fucking crazy.
I think that is the best way to say it.
But I want to say hello to to peanut which is also a creator and i i interact with you so much for such a long time
how are you man jana what's going on i want to pop in say hi i uh i think i commented on one of
your spaces the other day i'm like wait you're in spaces again uh so i was like oh gosh i gotta pop, I got to pop in. And Gina was here and Keith was here and, and, uh, see Fran down there and a bunch
of great people. So yeah, I just want to say hi. I've been loving your videos lately.
And I think it's, you know, for me, something I really enjoyed is just like the realness that,
you know, I I'm sure other people have been able to receive but especially me not to say that
content that you had posted before wasn't but i think i am i'm sure like other people too i'm
able just to to see like a different side of you obviously video video content's great obviously a
little bit different than live streams which is you know longer form i know you do some stuff like
that keith uh uh do, Doodle Gen X too.
So it's nice to be able to watch these like one, two minute videos.
And it's been, again, really impactful for me, you know, watching what you've been posting and then actually, you know, applying myself.
It's been incredible to, you know, stay consistent, to stay on the path, even when it's been so
discouraging, like so discouraging, like where it's been so discouraging like so discouraging like
where it's like gosh like I feel like no one's seeing my stuff or you know still trying to find
my voice and it's just been I mean it's been a long time coming like you know been here you know
quite a few years alongside a lot of you incredible people and just continuing to practice like space
hosting like doing live streams like anything you know I've just realized how important it is to, you know, put out quality repetitions and then also analyze and reflect too.
like, wow, okay, I can put out a post at, you know, a crazy time of the night. And because I've
been consistent with the voice that I've been or the signal that I've been putting out, you know,
people actually want to take the time to read it and then actually like respond and leave some
thoughtful responses. I'm like, wow, okay. You know, so it's one of those things where
it's so worth it continuing forward, even when it feels so discouraging.
And again, you've been a huge part of my journey, whether, you know, you know it or not, or, you know, you always feel it.
That's something that, you know, I know it means a lot to me when people tell me that.
So I always do my best to, you know, like let, you know, and Gina know and, and other people as well.
So, yeah, thanks for, you know, being a and and other people as well so yeah thanks for you know being a huge
inspiration to me and and uh yeah anyways all in it there I could keep going but seriously you've
had a huge impact on on my journey here and and uh you know just not not quitting not giving up on
you know I'm what I started a couple years ago Man, I definitely must say thank you so much for these words.
Actually, I am quite, how can I say this also, quite, maybe not emotional.
I don't think the word is emotional, maybe.
But I am someone that I, when I am too much around people, for example, I feel their pains in their place, you know.
I feel for them, you know.
Yesterday, I was actually telling my coach in the gym, the boxing gym, that I do stuff here.
And when we were doing like some pads and stuff, I don't remember exactly how was
the whole scenario. But then he was saying something about, oh, you girls doing your best
to do what I'm asking you to do. You just need to listen to what I'm telling you and blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I told him like man uh sometimes I mean I fuck up many times
and when I tried like when I'm trying to do the thing you were telling me and then I fuck up
that makes me quite frustrated because I feel for him and not for me I feel bad because it's like
I'm not doing what he's there trying to teach me over and over again.
And I am, I don't give a shit about embarrassing myself, for example.
That is what I'm trying to say.
I feel for the other, you know, I feel for the coach.
And then I was telling this to him and he is also like,
Jana, I mean, all of the people here, you pay to be on this gym, to work out and to learn how to box and blah, blah, blah.
I don't give a shit if in the end you don't want to learn.
And I said, man, I know you truly don't need to tell me.
I know because I'm very rational at the same time.
I'm very smart.
I know you don't give a shit.
I mean, it's not that you don't give a shit.
It's just like you are doing your thing.
And at the end of the day, the people around will learn or not that is on them.
You cannot control.
But this is something that is heavily in me still.
This thing that I feel for the other person.
So let's say I'm doing a boring space.
I feel bad if it is boring and people are trying to be here just to
support me. I feel bad for you and not for me, you know. Why I'm saying this? Because yeah, I was
saying this because I was trying to mention that when you guys tell stuff like, oh, you inspire or
I like the content is genuine and blah, blah, blah. And it's helping me.
It actually sounds bullshit, but it's truly what makes me like,
you know, shake inside and have some energy.
This type of stuff.
And, you know, during the journey, our journeys,
maybe we receive like this type of love,
maybe once at each two, three, four months. But I don't think people realize how strong
they are. Maybe even in your subconscious when you are not really realizing you are, you know,
getting impact by that feedback, right? So I just wanted to say that all the time when I hear something about this,
it's like really, it is crazy.
It's almost like my body reacts.
It reacts back.
It's very weird.
Yeah, it's very weird.
Don't worry.
I'm always looking into getting better to that.
But that is why also I'm able to connect with people in a good way
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But Keith, yeah. I said one other... Bl way and blah blah blah blah blah but Keith yeah
I said I had one other
I had one other quick thing too like and I know like you said a lot of times people may just
say stuff to say stuff but genuinely like when I you know when I see like one of your videos posted
you know for me it's it's not even necessarily like okay what like what's the topic
like what's the caption i'm like okay if she's doing a video you know you're just like genuine
and and like authentic about it too i think you put one out and you're like this is me in like
my natural form you know you're not like you're like makeuped up or like dolled up whatever you're
just like who you are and and you just put yourself out there and for me it's like okay i'm like what's what's janice saying today or what's she putting out there for
me like and i have that with a couple of people like it doesn't matter what people are posting
because i've gotten to know like their voice and their style and i know that you know what they're
putting out what you're putting out like you're one of like the again you're one of the couple
of people where i'm like okay what can i learn I learn from her? What can I learn from them?
And again, it's it's what helps me or has helped me develop my voice to over time.
So I'll leave it at that.
Love you, brother.
Thank you so much for taking the time to say and share that.
I think it's again is again very very special and I more than
ever especially now with AI we are I am at least doing a lot of this connection between is inevitable
what is happening and will keep happening with AI the question crazy I didn't even know we were
talking about AI until like 20 like until
like five minutes ago and then i was like oh that's why we're talking about ai i didn't even
see the title gina just invited me in here i was literally napping i woke up from a nap started
hitting the bong didn't even look like it was about ai and then i was like wait a second that's
why everyone's talking about ai no wonder this. This makes way more sense. Everyone's swinging it around. All these things make way more sense.
All right. Obviously, I'm not powered by AI because I would have noticed that right off the bat.
Oh, yeah.
But I saw an article because I was just all this AI talk. So I saw an article. I pinned it up at the top. But like Jana was saying, okay, that makes more sense.
Okay, so I've had those feelings too because the algorithm just changed so much that you're like, fuck, man, what do I do?
But then I do kind of just talk to myself like, well, I have to be more creative.
I got to try different things.
I've tried to kind of connect with more people that I've already interacted a lot with.
I've tried to kind of connect with more people that I've already interacted a lot with.
But I really haven't done that great of a job because I don't, I got to like, what you got to do is right when everyone was saying this is got to put noties on for people that you're really about.
Because that'll help out a lot more, I think, and kind of organize it like that.
But yeah, yeah.
It's not like a depression, but it's like you just feel cooked.
You're like, fuck, because I mean, I talk about gambling. about gambling they're like oh you get deep end if you talk about gambling
oh you talk about nfts oh you get deep end if you talk about nfts oh i thought we were about nfts
nope we fucking took away the octagon square about nfts now we're getting deep end for even
talking about them mentioning them i got my popularity by saying nTs. So I'm like, okay, I'm that fucking NFT kid.
I'm not supposed to talk about NFTs now.
So it's kind of crazy.
Like the algorithm's kind of going against me.
Not to mention I'm into weed.
So I'm already shadow banned because I talk about weed a lot.
I smoke a lot.
I already got banned from TikTok.
I'm not just, I don't know, TikTok sucks anyway.
But anyways, I'm just doing my best.
You are doing good, man.
But just because you pinned this stuff, I couldn't read yet.
But what exactly this stuff you pinned at the top, which is AI something?
I was just talking about AI agents, how they could have hot wallets,
they could have cold wallets, they could sign, they could do transactions,
just all the different things. So we were talking about something earlier with AI, so it all kind of
connects. But basically, there's a lot of applications for different AI agents, and
that might be the new thing. But I kind of thought that was the meta nine months ago,
and it kind of fizzled out. Maybe it was in the middle of some other type of run we were involved
in. I can't really think about it. But yeah, I think it's a good article. Check it out.
I will take a look. I mean, there is a bunch of, literally, and that is one of the issues,
especially with people that ended up letting get way too much information in. You feel overwhelmed
if you are not able to, what is more important for me
to focus? Because for example, right now there is AI agents that you are able to set them and they
will be trading and they will be doing all of that bullshit for you. AI trader, AI agents, AI,
whatever, that can be doing pretty much the things that I have been doing with my
AI Jana. The thing is like, you need to decide where you want to focus because if you don't,
you ended up looking everywhere, you feel overwhelmed and you will not do things like that.
And one thing that I truly have been trying to make it very clear when I'm talking about this
AI and OpenClaw, which have been, of course, the main topic on, I don't fucking know, on Twitter,
I don't know. What you are able to do with OpenClaw is insane. But let me tell you that it is also not that insane that if I put a kid with 10 years old
to, you know, be doing that without some knowledge or some, I won't say expertise, but some of those
like ability to quickly learn about programming and how to navigate technology and blah, blah, blah.
learn about programming and how to navigate technology and blah, blah, blah,
you will struggle. It will be hard.
Something that, yeah, made me very, it makes me quite upset
when I see everyone tries to say how easy is this or that.
Maybe they are trying, I mean, they are trying just to get you to hook you, right?
They are just trying to hook you.
But it's not, things are not that simple.
Go, if you go to YouTube right now and look at a video, how to set your open claw, teaching as if you were a kid with 10
years old, something like that. Guys, that is definitely not true. It's just a fucking way of
saying things and pretend it is so, so it is not so so easy but indeed in the
moment you download and you are able to do and set everything which is a lot of shit a lot of shit
then yes what you are able to go like using your AI to do is insane, insane, insane fucking shit.
But it's still the amount of stuff that needs to be set and the amount of also way for you to be dealing with your AI
is something that very soon, and I'm pretty sure is already something, is going to become a profession,
And I'm pretty sure it's already something.
It's going to become a profession, just new professions.
People that are specialized in helping you to set your proper personal agent.
Also help you to set and educate this agent.
Because again, it's not that easy.
I hate people again, over and over and over again, trying to say how easy it is. And you just need to say this
and that. Guys, AI Jana, just as an example, when I told her, for example, oh, and I think someone
also posting in the group chat in my Telegram, because I have been talking about this there as
well. There is another girl that she said that she asked her AI to do a website
and pretty much the website she created was like a page, like just a page you could scroll,
which is still good, but just like a normal page with just a few random information and that was
it. And she was saying how much mine was a lot better. Mine is a lot better because I gave a shit ton
of instructions for it.
So again, what will become a profession
and what will become a thing is people
that are able to create instructions for this AI.
Because also, again, I asked her,
we were doing something,
I was doing a research with AI Jana together.
I gave her the document,
like the Google document link,
so she could also like put the stuff
that she was researching in there automatically
without me needing to copy and paste.
She started sending me a lot of screenshots from the screen
because she doesn't know.
And we don't know that the way that she navigates,
like an AI navigates a page, is taking a lot of screenshots.
And AI, they cannot realize that you need to click where you want to drop the message.
So she opened the document and she started to literally at the same time
do the control V to put the stuff she researched there.
She researched there.
But how would I know?
But how would I know?
I need to tell her that you need to scroll down
and then find the place in the end of the document.
You need to click in the last letter in the end of this document
so then you are able to pass the information in the correct place.
I would have never known this shit if I was not doing and trying as I am doing
and trying right now. So I'm just like trying to say that is definitely even after you having
is a learning process for you and the AI and the agent. And maybe for those that are more technical
devs and stuff like that, they already understand these things, you know,
they already know that, what the fuck, Jana, this is like, she can't know that she needs to,
where she needs to put the fucking, the fucking research she's doing, you know, and I was the
wrong there because I didn't know I had to educate her. So it's kind of like a kid, you know, if you don't know some stuff,
like when your kid asks like, oh, mom, how the flowers keep growing or why the flowers have
grown in this place here in our house. If you don't have the answer to that, you will pretty
much or ended up giving a simple answer that will later on make this kid not knowing about the fucking flower.
Or you will have to learn to then teach your kid.
It's very similar with the agent and how it's been my experience here.
But yeah, it's still kind of a pain in the ass.
The whole setup is very crazy
and you will feel overwhelmed
and feel like, what the fuck?
But my agent has been like turned on
in another computer 24-7.
The computer sometimes is almost like exploding,
but it's only hard computer.
Like there is everything in that computer
far from my personal real computer.
Also, there is this whole fear and this whole like, oh my God, if something happens here, what will happen, you know?
But yeah, I'm trying to keep open, keep learning and doing, you know, experimentations, I guess.
Well, that was an awkward silence.
Thanks a lot, guys.
I was texting.
Wait, I was like, shit, did you ask me a question?
God damn it.
I was about to jump on the grenade. I was like shit did you ask me a question god damn it I was about to jump on the grenade I was like gosh
it happens
it happens but yeah
super cool I love that you're like
no these because I do see that all the time
and everyone's like it's so easy
it's so easy and then I'm like easy
for who you fucking nerds
like give me a break the rest of the world
needs to learn how to click
a mouse. I had just gotten a computer a few years ago because I do everything on my phone,
and I forgot how to control copy paste or whatever the hell you do, you know, because I hadn't used
a computer in so long since I was like a little girl in school. So, yeah, the rest of us are not very tech savvy, as everyone assumes.
The good old control V, right?
There you go.
Yeah, I just had to, you know, do a little tap, tap, tap.
And then I was right back in the game.
It is actually very funny, Gina.
I had no idea.
That is what the fuck how could you not have
uh not use or need the computer before that that is insane i just worked from my phone you know so
i just didn't need it then before i started working from my phone I was a career cocktail server. And yeah, I just I just literally didn't
need it. I love that. That is so cool. But that is a perfect, perfect example. All of this stuff
about the, you know, not easy, not easy at all. Maybe easy. Yeah, maybe easy for the dev that
have deployed many contracts on pump fun, made some money, read some people. Yeah, maybe easy for the dev that have deployed many contracts on pump fun,
made some money, rung some people.
Yeah, for that guy, it's very easy.
For those that have been selling discords and making codes and products and shit,
yeah, guys, it will be easy for you.
You are used to.
Normies, normies that are not tech savvy,
we don't know our computer have a terminal.
We don't know that you can also download another terminal that makes a little bit more beautiful to navigate.
We don't know that a fucking website need to have a CRM and a content creation manager,
which is another symbol that I don't remember the name.
We don't know.
We also need to host in a particular place
that doesn't need to be the same one
that I buy my fucking website name.
So fucking hell, right?
People are just like, oh, so easy.
So, so, so easy. So, so, so easy.
So, so easy, guys.
Fucking hell.
It's not easy.
It's not easy.
But of course, depending who you are, where you are coming from,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
It will be easy.
But again, it's just I'm trying to still maybe bring some hope, right?
Maybe not everyone will be able to be doing these things.
Not everyone will be able to set their own AI agents.
I think a lot of new professions
are literally being created at this second.
People being able to educate your agent,
organize for you and leave it like this is ready for you to use.
There is a lot of stuff that will
start to come, but I'm really my focus. It's been just on making my life a little bit easier with,
you know, content creation and the market and some stuff. We definitely need that with
so much, so much things that we have going on all the time in this place.
But in the rest, yeah, it is what it is.
We do what we can.
Twitter is definitely being a pain in the ass.
So I'm also definitely looking forward to go to different places.
Well, again, we do the best we can.
We should give us a break as well.
I definitely agree with Keith on that.
I'm pretty, all the time I'm pushing and being very demanding with myself
and like, what the fuck are you doing and this type of shit, you know.
Go Blue.
Yeah, and I love the alpha that you just dropped and gave the room
and hopefully people didn't look past that really quick.
Same as the importance of wallet etiquette.
There is AI etiquette.
And before you deploy your AI agents,
I recommend you have a separate device just for that.
You know, that is AI etiquette,
especially when you're a builder trying to make things happen.
And it's tough. I ask you something. When you say AI etiquette, okay, so first you said, I recommend you to have
a separate device. And when you said that, I'm thinking, okay, that's for my protection because
I am paying to train this AI on what I think, right? That's right where I went. But then you said
the second part. So can you clarify the difference of my thoughts?
Yeah, you just don't want to co-mingle your personal with your business, if that makes sense.
And think about AI as something that gets unleashed on your device and and it's pretty easy for there to be a bleed you don't have the ability
to uh like geolock it if you have a separate device just for your ai functions and your ai
building it can never bleed into your personal so so it's it's it's proper etiquette just to
keep that separate and it is tough i mean j Jenna, I looked at your account and you have a
very organic account. You know, you're averaging five to 10% likes to impression ratio, which is
actually really good in the environment that we're in. So just from somebody that's been here for a
hot minute, I can tell that you're not paying to bot your interaction. It's an actual authentic interaction. It's something you can be
proud of. Now what's tough and people don't realize this when you ask yourself what does
the X community think of me? What is the crypto community, the weed community, NFT community?
That actually boils down to the lists that you're on. So you can go into your profile and it's different for PC and Mac and your cell
phone, but on your cell phone, if you pull up your profile,
you're going to see three little dots in the upper right-hand corner.
If you're on an Android, you hit those three dots.
It's going to say the lists you are on.
I encourage everybody to go through and look at the lists,
see what the substance of those lists are.
Some of it is community. Some of it is airdrops. That means they think that, you know, you're an
easy target, um, and a whole assort of, of different things. I've actually had two monetized
accounts and I lost them both in the Twitter wars until I decided I just doesn't really benefit to monetize. So I wipe my list clean all the time.
Do not do that.
I do it for a specific reason
because I like being unknown more than known
just because I enjoy my intellectual property
for as long as I can hold on to it.
But we are in a public forum,
so you say things and it will turn into somebody else's.
But if you look at the list you're on, there could be times,
there was times before I discovered this,
you'd have 3 million people following you on lists and it never made it to
your account. You didn't see it in your followers,
but every single time it's kind of like a sub timeline, right? You go,
you post it's on the timeline. your friends see it. That's great.
But every time you post, it goes into those private lists and everybody sees it.
How do we do that? I'm sorry. I missed that part.
Do you have an Android device? Is that what you're on?
Okay. So anybody that has a iPhone or whatnot, feel free to come up and assist with this.
So anybody that has a iPhone or whatnot, feel free to come up and assist with this.
But generally, you know, an Android device, you look to the top or right top right hand corner of your screen and you'll see three little dots.
And if you hit on it, it will say lists, list you are on.
And then every list you're on actually has a title.
So, you know, every now now and again one slips past me and
it's like yeah i'm just more reclusive than i am um inclusive so yeah list you're on boom hey
somebody snuck in got a hundred and one thousand members i'll get rid of them cara 31942 this is a
data mining so so they're data scraping right so so there's
so much free information a lot of these like billionaire bros and the Bitcoin
bros that came from TradFi they actually owned data harvesting businesses and a
lot of wealthy people they become wealthy from somebody else's idea then
they take it they market it properly they have the resources then next thing
you know it's what they're known for I So after a while, that kind of pissed me off a little bit.
And I went rogue and, you know, got rid of 6,000, 7,000 followers, got rid of my entire list,
and it will destroy your algorithm to where you are non-existent. You will not be seen
other than your friends that you interact with. So for me, the timeline talking
spaces, I like the intimate aspect of it, where if I choose to share something, if I choose to
share something of my 28,000 charting hours, I want to share it as a gift. I don't want it to
be a given because monetization doesn't pay that well. It did for a little bit of time back in the day.
But as everyone in this room knows, it dies off. Is there a benefit to being monetized? Well,
there very well may be. It might be the same as if anyone's familiar with New York City.
If you had a taxi token, that cost a certain amount of money back in the 80s and 90s,
and that thing's worth millions of dollars now. and that token gives you a right to be a taxi cab service in the city so i am optimistic that
at some point when x becomes the everything app um you can see he's already going towards crypto
so it's really ironic that he is suppressing the voice of crypto the visibility of crypto
but i guarantee x starts their own stable coin. I guarantee that.
You know, everybody thinks, oh, Elon, X are going to launch a shit coin. No, no, no. They're going
to do transactional layer stable because the real money is off of fees and transactions. It's kind
of like having a one-sided liquidity pool. So you can have a guy that launches a shit coin and goes,
look at me, I never sold. Well, that's the sleight of hand. That's the dummy wallet that he wants everybody looking at.
And nobody sees that he has multiple V3, V4 pools, one-sided,
that he's just selling into the volume, making their money.
Because some of these assets, when you look at market cap to LP ratio,
nobody's leaving a millionaire unless you have an LP pool.
I mean, if it says $400,000 in liquidity, it can be anywhere from
$100,000 of actual money to $200,000 actual money, depending on the split ratio of 50-50 pairing.
Your LP pool, your tokens are worth nothing. So we'll use Ethereum as an example. You have a coin,
you launch it, we'll say, and you look at your LP pool and you're like,
there's 300,000 in liquidity.
No, there's actually 150,000 in liquidity.
And it may even be less if that liquidity contract or that shit coin has a lopsided 30-70 ratio.
So those are very important metrics
when you start looking into these digital assets
because back in the day,
we didn't have pump for fun, man.
You messed up a transaction on Ethereum.
You didn't do your slippage properly.
You didn't pay the doorman
to make sure that that transaction went through.
You lost 300 bucks
because there's no refunds on failed transactions.
You know, back in the day,
you would
have to pay brew labs you get your certic audit you had all these different companies it would
cost three to eight grand to launch a token because somebody had to actually make the code
versus pump for fun has a preset default of tokenomic structure that whoever's behind pump
for fun has decided that all right there's enough market cap to lp
ratio to where it's volatile like a meme coin and if you get that out of whack your chart's stable
so you need that distance and gap it's kind of like a fine art you got to dial it and tweak it
to get the proper market cap to lp ratio And that's why you see different assets that launch a pre-sale.
Certain amount of circulation comes into play.
They might say that it has a 3 million market cap,
but fully diluted is 13.
So there's a lot of circulation that never made it to launch.
But then once you achieve that 13 million fully diluted
market cap and all circulation is in the play, it completely changes the tokenomic structure of your
liquidity to market cap ratio. So the chart starts acting differently. It starts ranging sideways.
You get a flat line, whatever it may be. And your LP pools also amplify that cause and effect.
So it's kind of like a cool little science, but way different.
Like back in the day and trying to navigate information, public knowledge, it just really
wasn't there.
Um, bots destroyed, um, or I, the subway bot, and there was like two or three other
bots and I would memorize what their actual last four digits of their uh
uh oh you cut out for a little bit yeah i don't know if you can hear me blue collar um we're
gonna jump over to jay because he's been here. I wanted to say hi Hey, how's it going? It's been a hot minute
love to see the ladies in the
ladies in the right seat
Co-hosting the space and the guys be on their best behaviors
Putting us in line
line um no i i'm enjoying the conversation for sure and uh x x is asked to get better at it
No, I'm enjoying the conversation for sure and
sorry you know guys i don't know for rugged i won't let no dead space pop up here i'll jump
on that damn grenade yeah that's the thing find out because right now i'm on a laptop and i don't
see those little dots on my profile.
Can you hear us?
That will tell you once, let's say, the sharks in the water.
Blue, I think you can't listen to the rest of people.
You click on this list, you check it out.
Now, if you see something you don't like, the only way to get off the list is to actually block the creator of the list.
What the fuck?
Don't do that.
It's going to mess up your algorithm.
It really needs to be tailor-fit and cover-designed
to what you're expecting to get out of this.
Man, I still hear him.
What the fuck?
You want to be inclusive.
Excellent, excellent guy.
You want to be an eye-to-one and walk your own walk.
You wipe that out.
I hope I didn't remove him from the space.
You're a builder.
You're here to make a name for yourself.
But how is you still going?
That list is pretty significant when it comes to who seems to work.
I have not an idea.
We went like five minutes back in that recording.
I've never seen this before.
This is a first.
All right, he's gone.
He's gone.
Wait, was he pitching?
That was freaking crazy.
Was he pitching in another space? Is that what that was?
Wow.
Okay, sorry about that, Jay.
Of course it happened.
One, two, one, two. Is
Anybody out there?
What?
He's back.
He's back.
His profile's not back in here But he's back
This is crazy
This is actual crazy
For a second there
For a second there
I thought it was Keith
He was muted
But I don't know
It just threw me off completely
What?
Wasn't me For a split second.
I thought it was weird.
I'm not going to lie.
Anyway, I don't know
if anyone's really familiar but
TikTok has this whole
campaign and they're like
it seems like they're trying to lure us off of
X so they can get some
TikTok influencers.
I think back in october november ish for last year there was like there was like a little campaign they're doing where they're paying people to talk about crypto like anywhere from like a
1200 to 2500 um i do see people like doodletics and yanda out there doing their thing are you
guys familiar with that at all do you guys know
anything i'm talking about in terms of i don't know so yeah well the thing the thing um the way
that they haven't structured right now with their lives are you back oh i believe i'm back i was
worried i was talking over somebody i couldn't hear hear nobody. So I was like, all right, I just got to leave. You don't believe what happened. So I removed you from the
stage because you couldn't hear us. And then I went to invite you, but then you were gone. And
I'm like, did I kick him out of the room? And then you started talking again from like five minutes
ago. And then it ran through. And then you know where you paused and you're like testing, testing.
So it paused for a while. It literally ran through your whole thing. And you paused and you're like testing testing so it paused for a
while it literally ran through your whole thing and i'm just we're all over here like what the
heck is going on this is hilarious so they don't want me out here saying this truth they don't want
the truth i don't want a public they don't want a public that was crazy okay sorry so jay no i did Okay, sorry. So Jay, no, I did not hear about that. So tell us about it, Jay
Yeah, it's it's the way they have it set up is kind of like x in a way where
Um, you don't even turn your camera on imagine having like I guess nine or six co-hosts
They call them co-hosts on on on tick-tock, but it really is the speakers the same kind of setup
But you know people are paying you in tips, you know, and I was just talking about this
um with someone else
I think who I was talking to about it, but I imagine you have like digital items that you can sell or merchandise
We're over here, you know
Trying to sell to our communities, but imagine taking it to tick-tock
which
Completely web too um i agree i've always said
like because tiktok has had the live aspects and you could do the different speakers and you can
just do your own like there's just so much more that you can do and it's just way freaking better
and i've told people i'm like we should be creating on TikTok. We should
at least do the TikTok lives instead of over here. But I think because of how everyone was
on TikTok and it's a lot of incels that started on X, for them to go over to TikTok was just not
happening. That's just my personal opinion. Now I'm going to the cross for
it. I don't care. Um, but I, I, yeah, I totally agree. Yeah. I don't think it's, it's, you just
need a few, a few people to do it and then to do, I've been talking about doing it for God knows
how long, but I just had the worst schedule possible to be able to do it. Things are getting
better now. I'm getting more, I'm getting more days, um, opened up for possible to be able to do it things are getting better now I'm getting more for many more days
Opened up for me to be able to do this, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm actually gonna do it. I'm gonna do it
I've been saying it for a while. I'm gonna link up yonda. We're gonna gonna have fun with it
That's the best thing you could do
I think streaming on tik-tok and in streaming on X
It's gonna be a lot to deal with so I'm just gonna I already I already have my community going to, I already, I already have my community on, on, on, on, on X.
I already have my community here.
Right.
Um, I'm going to work on, you know, still being on, on spaces, but I'm also going to
be working on building a community in the web too.
And then just bringing it all together, you know, bringing it all together, do what I
do with the podcast and all that.
I think, um, ultimately we all have the responsibility that we should be onboarding people in any way fashion and not waiting for the big guy to come
in and just save us all like like a like a superman i guess you can call it that's just my
opinion everyone's waiting wait for the masses to get here i can't wait for the masses to get here. I can't wait for the masses to get here. How about you go out there and you pull up your bootstraps
and you start doing your freaking job
and don't wait for the IRL events.
Don't wait for the NFT NYCs
and the NFT Parises
where you all just get together
and just hang out like we're on spaces.
Create an event.
It doesn't have to be one of those big events.
Everyone knows the satellite events is where it's at. events Because everyone knows the satellite events is where it's at
Anybody can tell you the satellite events
Is where it's at, it's always been that way
I'll be honest with you
I haven't been to one conference
All my years of being in this space
I never had to
So, no offense
I'm lying, I went to blockchain and futurist
Last year, that's a complete lie
It was a great time big shout out to
Blockchain futurist
I'm open for sponsorships by the way
Gonna throw it up in the air
And leave that there thank you for your time
Well said
Well said
Blue collar
Hoping that we can hear you this time
If not we'll hear it back so
so no worries all right what would you like to hear i think that's the magic question
i can whisper sweet nothings but it might not might not sell the room it might it might um i
guess whatever you were um just saying before if you wanted to finish, because I had to kick you off and I feel bad.
No worries.
I was just explaining the differences of what it was like to release a contract, let's say 2021, 2022 versus.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You'd have to pay somebody.
You'd pay Brew Labs.
You'd have to get the CERDIC audit.
You'd have to sell to your community that you have a roadmap as they kind
of seed funded your concept that never turned into fruition and um you know it's just kind of
a weird little nefarious cycle as you're trying to navigate the met bots and well here's the question
I have for you so where do you think we will be at next cycle because I don't think gambling's
going away in any sense of the form I don't think Solana's going away I don't think gambling's going away in any sense of the form. I don't think
Solana's going away. I don't think meme tokens are going away. I even think if Solana's $8 again,
people are still going to put in however many salamis they want to and they're still going to
gamble. B&B was the popular one last cycle, but I do think that was because of the contracts and the amount of devs and things that they had on there.
So, yeah.
Okay.
I'll stop giving you my opinion and you can give me yours.
No, no worries.
I mean, we can see that the current meta is leverage, right?
Multiple leverage projects.
They've come out in all different color
fashions i just kind of lean towards that because you mentioned b and b um so i i personally believe
that the leverage meta is just going to uh eat itself alive it's going to implode it's not
sustainable great opportunity wonderful moment we see that in the markets right um so when you don't
have an order book to chase and liquidate,
you have to liquidate leverage.
So market makers and exchanges,
they're in the business of making money.
And if they can't force bag holders in at the top,
they're going to range liquidate leverage trades.
All that is visible.
Like even if there's like, oh, we have this dark pool,
that dark pool is only dark to your fellow investors.
That exchange sees every hot map and every position there, chases it, forces you into it, liquidates you and wipes you out.
The traditional concept of leverage was find a position, lock it in and ride it to Valhalla.
That concept's pretty much gone and dead, especially if you're going with weight. If you put weight on leverage, you're cooked. It's going to haunt you like a meal in the
ocean. So with that being said, where are we going to be? Yeah, you're still going to have the
gambling. I think people end up going back to the roots. The Clarity Act, unfortunately, is going to
make a lot of digital assets not accessible to the American market.
And I can give you some examples.
New York can stop you.
Doesn't matter.
MetaMask, whatever it may be, just because you're geomapped in New York.
And then everyone's going to be like, oh, flip on your VPN.
Hey, listen, I'm not going to tell anyone to do something they might have to answer to in the future.
But you do you, boo.
You got to flip that on.
That's your call.
But as far as the world of decentralized, I'll pull up my MetaMask when I go to visit New York, and if it sees me in New York, it won't give me the ability to do perps or futures.
It says that is not available on your region. So when we go back and we look what took place over in Europe, they actually had stable coin regulations.
And part of that regulation required any stable coin that was going to navigate within the European crypto market needed to be backed by 60% euro.
Yes, that's right, guys.
Stable coins in Europe are basically the euro. That's what it is.
They tried forcing Tether to comply to that. Tether told them to go fly a kite.
Excuse me. Reason for saying this is geolocking is real. And the Cl clarity act is going to put a geolock restrictions on the american
market now why is that important let me ask you this before you go to where you're going
so um uh you know the not your keys not your crypto why a lot of us use wallets and not exchanges in that act I guess you just
said that using your MetaMask you're gonna have these things come up that
will say not in your region how at risk are we from taking there are from them
taking our crypto on our wallets.
So this is a topic that's going to rattle a lot of feathers,
and that worked out great, Gina.
It allowed me to go get a glass of water here so I can at least be somewhat audibly presentable.
But with that being said, I can give you an example.
So maybe people in this audience are familiar or not but they had that mother of the
news broadcast um anchor that got kidnapped right you remember that that they wanted us to care so
much about i sure do exactly exactly but where's where's the fruit of of that example like where
where's the information that we extract that we find to be useful?
So when the ransom was presented,
here's what's cool, Gina,
is as the ransom was presented
to be paid in Bitcoin,
they sent a $300 test transaction
to a decentralized wallet.
The people that were in control of that wallet
gave the FBI the IP address,
location, and all that information that you think is hidden to the FBI
so they can go and ask questions to the individual that received
that $300 decentralized transaction.
Everybody in this room is 100% trackable.
There's not a single wallet or entity in the market that is going to take SEC
or federal fines and violations for you, the private investor. None of them are. Wallets in
the past have assisted governments in finding people that thought that they were a non. So
that whole concept of, all right, nobody can take it, this and that, unless it's in cold storage completely off the grid, it's very accessible.
And then the second that you turn that device on, plug it in and bridge it to a wallet, it is very accessible.
So not your keys, not your crypto is not real at all when it comes to a hot wallet.
Not at all.
The only cold storage.
And then when you plug your cold storage into a hot wallet,
if they want to get to your cold storage, can they just intercept that?
Well, it's kind of tough.
I mean, I'm trying to think offhand.
You know, this is going to sound full sacrilege. I'm fully comfortable with centralized exchanges because the ones that I use not only insure my assets, but I've never had an issue with moving any type of money back and forth. I've actually just gone to my bank.
Until you started talking on Twitter space and they started doing some weird shit with you.
You were walking on Twitter space and they started doing some weird shit with you.
Oh, they do that all the time.
I have like 18,000 hours in spaces.
I hosted the live Terra Luna crash with over 1,000 people.
We had like 350,000 views and 100% accuracy at a moment where people are contemplating suicide.
Uh-oh.
This place doesn't faze me that much.
It just said disconnected at the top.
This is the weirdest space.
I don't know if you guys can hear me.
It's been absolutely fabulous.
Either way, hope to see you guys again.
I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
I'm rambling because I can't hear anyone.
Baby, oh my God.
This space is so fucked up crap.
Jesus, sorry guys.
Actually, I will just... Make sure you guys follow Jonna, me, and so fuck up crap. Jesus. Sorry guys. Actually
Make sure you guys follow Janna, me and everyone else, obviously.
Follow Janna and Gina. Follow all of us. Everyone here on the speaker. Everyone fucking legends.
Am I the only one that you guys can hear? Can we do a thumbs up?
Oh my God, this is a disaster. X hates you guys.
Because if they selected me above everyone else on stage,
you just know that X has it out for you because who the hell wants to listen to me? Um, but love
you guys. Uh, thanks X for picking me to be the person for everyone to listen to. Um, yeah,
follow Jenna. I already told you to do the things, go do the likes, the comments, bookmark,
I already told you to do the things.
Go do the likes, the comments, bookmark, all that.
Have an amazing hump day.
I hope that you hump like my dog does.
He's just been going crazy lately.
Everyone he sees, he's just humping.
I don't know what it is.
But anyway, I love you guys.
It's been amazing.
Jana, thank you so much for inviting me.
You've been a lovely, lovely host.
That was my present video for you guys. I know Gina can't hear me, but everyone else can. You've been a lovely, lovely host. Thank you.
I know Gina can't hear me, but everyone else can.
I think, well, weird fucking space, guys.
We're going to just get this opportunity and close the space for today.
Thank you so much, everyone that joined us.
It was amazing.
Hope to see you guys around.
Please follow everyone.
Of course, I'm already following all of you. And I hope to see you all around. Please follow everyone. Of course, I'm already following
all of you, and I hope to see you all in the timeline. Take care. Have a great day. Sleep
well, and I see you very, very soon. Bye-bye. Thank you.
