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You guys don't know this song
My god that was scary as fuck Elon don't do it I was close
All right guys, so I've been fucking around
Searching up all this AI music look what I found today. It's probably been around for let me see
I think it's been around for a few weeks already. Yeah, two weeks. This is uh, this is some AI music
Not official, but I'm pretty sure you guys know what song this is
That's bi G over this beat this is not official this is an AI track is an AI track
That is fucking insane bro, like every single day i'm getting fascinated with these gadgets
I love I love love love chat gpt. I love
But we're about to learn about way better tools today for show
30 seconds and we start let's go
Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, welcome welcome welcome
Welcome, it's 806 p.m. Eastern. Uh, beautiful evening in Miami lots of rain. So now we get a nice sunset
Um, but yeah, this is uh, ai metaverse on cut episode two
Um, I actually had the uh, the blessing of um getting a job at meta places
I'm officially the social media director. So I designed this specific show
Um, not only to highlight the amazing things that meta places is doing but to highlight the industry as a whole
Metaverse AI specifically, um because we all know it can get kind of boring when it gets brought up in other spaces other rooms
Um, but it I think it's because sometimes it doesn't get the attention it deserves and sometimes the conversation
Gets off track. Oh, they're coming for us
It's bad. And then you got conspiracy theorists with something wrong with those people because i'm the fucking conspiracy there's myself
But it just I think it gets off track. So I think it's important and productive to have um
A specific conversation around this stuff and then educate
Uh last week's, uh first official episode. I had so many notes. Um
This week alone. I had an overload of just new stuff to use
And i've been super blown away. So i'm excited to get into new stuff today excited to talk about
What everybody's building this is not a show fest and I know I don't have to say that
But more or less this is to talk about what you guys are
Like what you've learned what you're building
Uh, and more importantly how we can kind of um set up the the best future for all this as we onboard
You know as we expand, uh, we all here clearly want web3 to win
We're here on a fucking friday night 8 o'clock at night. So we clearly want web3 to win
Um, so this is how we do it right having these productive convos, uh, but without further ado, we're gonna get started
Um chris, how are you feeling today? Thank you again for pulling up. Um, how's your day going, man?
Listen last week was amazing. We had great speakers great knowledge being shared
I'm just excited to hear what everyone else is building in the space
and I want to talk about some of the things that we're doing, uh in a couple of days with the pepe fest and
Spatial and and vr goggles for you know in real life things is going on. So it's pretty cool
What what the space is building for people?
Uh, damn, I didn't realize you're part of that pepe fest too. That's june 7th, right?
june 9th, very cool. Damn. I moved really that day, but I definitely will see what's up
I'll pull up i'll probably want to take a break from moving
Tcg world's on the stage. If you don't mind, um, actually chris
You didn't really introduce yourself with the new people here
Maybe introduce yourself real quick and then i'm gonna pass tc tcg
Um, and then uh pass it along to our speakers and get going
Yeah, definitely. So i'm the founder of wall street bets on facebook. We have
Um, just hanging out talking about degenerate plays every day and memes. We keep it light-hearted, you know
We vibe our crypto. I'm also the biz dev for tcg world. You met uh falkey yesterday
I'm pretty sure that's him under that profile there. He just came on
That is welcome. Welcome. Yeah, i'm the biz dev for that company and a couple of other companies one called uh habitat
They were supposed to show up today
But it's a little bit late for him and um, he's traveling to europe to hit up some of those, uh, metaverse lisbon events
So, um, we'll probably get him on in the next couple of weeks
But yeah, we we got a good lineup of people, uh, looking forward to hearing from falkey. Take the mic my brother
Our tcg world that should say
G'day everyone. Hello prophets another, uh, amazing twitter space on shore coming up
Uh, absolutely love these. Uh, I was almost going to say no to chris
When he messaged and said hey jump on again and i'm like, oh no, i've got a whole day planned
I literally just woke up because uh, unlike you guys
Uh over there 8 p.m. It's uh
It's almost like what 9 9 a.m or something here
So but um, yeah, love everyone love the chats and everything looking forward to it
Uh tcg world i'm, uh under the uh banner of our company at the moment. So, um, yes
We are building an open world metaverse. We just did a ama last night huge announcement about our baby dragons
Uh, they're going to be kind of like tamagotchis
So you'll be able to level them up and all that sort of stuff
We can talk about that a little bit later. But yes, come give us a follow and a like
Um, and yeah, just keep keep an eye on us because we're uh growing in this space and we're integrating ai and everything
It's really exciting. So thank you
Most definitely, uh, we also have a super special guest today
Uh, mr. Jonathan faults. He actually leads a really cool company called legion
I'm not even gonna act like I know how to explain it. He's gonna do that
But I had the blessing of meeting him here in miami
Um at a couple of different events even vince of some of the events he's curated
He's definitely a mover and a shaker and and I see him, you know on a mission and sky doesn't stop
He might be he might be a robot not gonna lie
Um, but the like I didn't realize robots have muscles
Um, but no jonathan, thank you for being here. I know you're traveling. So really means a lot that you pulled up today
Um, what's up? How you feeling?
What's going on everyone and what up shenise?
I'm happy to be here, you know, like when you told me about I was definitely gonna be traveling believe it or not right now
I'm in the middle of a legal office in a private room right now
We're literally just talking about tokenizing a potential property
Like 1300 acres for a couple projects that we're working on
I had to tell him I had to take off for a quick second, uh, so I could join this because
First of all, I know a lot is happening
AI is moving so freaking fast, you know a little bit of my background
I've had like 30 companies work with the secretary of defense in mexico with some ai stuff about a decade ago
Um, and I just love what's happening, you know
And I really think that you know us doing stuff in the web 3 space and you know
Looking to make sure that we're going to do this the correct way is very important
So anytime I get a chance to speak talk with other badasses around I am always down
So i'm really glad to be here and a little bit about light legion
It's just we created a group of individuals that are here to create impact through technology and mostly that's going to be just web 3
artificial intelligence and exponential technologies and um
You know, we're in very exciting times right now guys, and it's like we really got to dive in
fully to really take us into the proper direction because it could go in many directions and it's really up to us to
Forge that path and thank you. Shanice for you know, putting this together. I'm happy to be here guys
Absolute legend definitely. Thank you for being here. So all right, you guys already know how I do. I got questions. I got questions. Um
Uh, also the way I've kind of been doing them, you know, we're gonna do I know I did two hours definitely
Doing a straight hour tonight. Um
Yes, doing a straight hour tonight. God knows I and yeah
Hour it is anyway, uh, we got to get the weekend started
We got to get that break going but more importantly we got a fucking conversation to have so let's do it
But yeah, the first part of it is going to be um ai specific and then we'll go into the metaverse
Second part just so we don't I mean we could it's not like too strict, you know
I mean, but i'm gonna definitely start with like ai questions first
Um, so this is for the rooms for anybody and and anybody else that has people that think that they should join the conversation
You go ahead and share it. Don't be scared. Uh, this is recorded. So if they miss it all good
Um, but yeah as far as ai goes
A lot of us here kind of already have nfts and stuff like that. And so i'm gonna kind of
Throw a throw a kind of wild question as the first one
Um, we've all seen the meta we've all seen things change
Do we see ai being incorporated in this next run when it comes to?
You know, we already know things are kind of low right now bear market not many users
So as things pick up, do we see ai being incorporated at all?
And if if if not, do we believe the people not incorporating it? Are they going to be left behind?
I will jump in real quick
We already seen an influx of a lot of nft projects using ai and a lot of gaming companies integrating ai for the npc
So instead of interacting with a pre-programmed line, you have ai npc giving you feedback
Telling you about the world and things like that. So we've seen that already happen. Um, but uh, hold on
Okay, let me better question
Relevancy though those people that you've seen how big are those communities very small?
Very small tiny. Gotcha. That's i'm, sorry
That's what I mean in the meta and when I say the meta, I mean
The the new the new fad the new trend, right? That's what I mean. Um, like yeah, that's what I mean
But yeah, okay. All right. Good. Good point. I see that. Um, tcg go ahead
I think the biggest thing we're going to start seeing is trading bots like ai trading pots that can analyze
uh emotions and posts and everything in real time
And then all of a sudden start trading, uh, I think that's going to be one of the biggest things for the next bull run
Uh, you start seeing a lot of tokens
You know launching with that type of um background and everything. I think that's going to be huge
Uh, so yeah, I just wanted to mention that one
We we obviously integrating ai as well with our npc's and everything
But I think the trading bots and that are going to be very interesting. So i'm watching that space
I'll add one little quick perspective for you guys, too
Like we um, we we met up with like coinbase ventures and they were all talking about all kinds of cool stuff in the web
Three space and i'm like, why are they not talking about ai right now? This makes zero sense
This was like probably a month and a half ago two months ago
And i'm like, what are they doing?
So we asked one of the guys from one of the main guys in coinbase ventures where they're just
Investing into a lot of these web 3 projects and I asked him about ai and what he said to me is like he has
Not seen one single relevant ai project that makes sense
So it's like, you know a lot of these big companies, you know slash why you're probably not seeing a lot of this is that
They're not seeing the full integration yet, which is fucking crazy to me
I don't understand how that's even possible
Um, but people are not coming up with like badass solutions in gaming and the metaverse
I definitely see that happening. But like you said, it's like it really hasn't taken presidents yet, you know
Well said jonathan, um jonathan, I know you're semi-new to spaces
I know you didn't mean to interrupt and talk without being called on with your hand not being up. Oh
No, no, no, I don't know how to do this guys i'm a newbie here, you know
No, I know i'm not being facetious as for everybody else like dude this and jonathan is a very courteous guy
Okay, trust me. He's very generous
Kayla and then beard is I don't know jonathan really killed. No, i'm kidding jonathan
Person too. So don't worry at all
Um, one thing I wanted to say, you know use case for nft has been like a hill i'm gonna die on
So I think if you have an nft and there's ai in that
Nft and like you can incorporate like I don't know for musicians. For example, let's say that
I have an nft that lets me use ai to make music. I think that's going to be like utility
Do I think people will be left behind long term? Yes, but like
Based on what I do, which is like trend analysis
I've always saw an nft as like something that can analyze data from digital collectibles and platforms to identify the trends
So I think anybody who doesn't start, you know, identifying the emerging trends using ai for their nft is going to be left behind
Yeah, 100 great take right there bearded how you doing my brother
Yeah, good guys, uh, it did this kind of refreshing like conversation compared to like everything going on in crypto twitter right now
So definitely down to have this
uh, I feel like to you guys this point with uh
Gaming and stuff and being used in mpc. It's like I I feel like if you're not using this stuff to give yourself an advantage
while you're building, uh, you're going to be left behind because uh,
You know i've been using it
Not a show but like i've been working on something for a few years now and we're definitely uh implementing some of these things
You know like man hours to to accomplish something and and maybe even get something that you you know
You you didn't have on the plate before done a lot quicker
Yeah, I totally agree with that. Um
I'm a newbie when it comes to ai, but I use ai for everything, you know, even memes
I just I tell chat chat gbt. Um, I say caption this meme and I describe the meme for him and they give me some fire ass content
So yeah, I use it for everything everything i'm about to post i'm gonna make this look better for me
And then I tweak it dumb it down because i'm not that smart and uh, yeah, I just make it look original
But yeah chat gbt is changing the game as we see it jonathan. Go ahead my brother
All right, for sure now it's you know, I we just did a presentation to a fortune 150 company and to to my
Distraught freaking even likeness like these guys are not using anything whatsoever in the field
And a lot of these startups and everything like that are going fully into it. Um, a lot of my friends in the business space
Um, the ones that have been extremely successful and i'm talking about guys extremely successful
Are the ones that have pivoted into ai?
Literally like a 180 they completely have turned around and turned their companies agencies everything that they're doing towards ai
The only people that I see that are making extreme
Strides in the last like three to five months have been the ones that went all in with the ai side
And one of the conversations that we had with um, this this company was that you know
You have to do these things now because one of the things that they said to me
They're like I guess they work together with some stuff with microsoft as you guys know microsoft is one of the major owners and chat gpt
Um, and they asked they're like, you know what we're gonna wait till they build a system for us
And and one of the questions I asked i'm like, what if that's about six months from now?
Um in six months from now because this technology is exponential
Six months in the next six months guys, I believe is going to be like two to three years from what we've seen in the past
So it's like those of you that are not working with ai those of you that are not really like like just like you said right now
Chris that you're using it for everything that you do. Um soon enough
You're going to see these applications and all these api integrations that you must put into your business because the companies that are using this
Will literally far leave everyone behind like there's going to be a gap of disparity. That is crazy
you know what I mean and like I wasn't a guy that just popped in here and
Uh started looking at ai when chat gpt came out. I've been talking about this stuff for a decade
I call it the digital revolution and all that chat gpt did um when it came back
Came out in uh, november of last year
All it did is open pandora's box to show people that ai is real
So all these developers that were developing and they're like damn
Why isn't anyone coming to check out our technology?
So what it did it open pandora's box to show people that holy shit. This is real
Um, and what's happening right now is that the opportunists the marketers the people that know how to take these things to market
Which a lot of those a lot of my friends are actually in the marketing space and they understand these things
Now they're paying attention
So now they're finding the tools now
They're finding the technology that they can go ahead and apply it and put it out in the world
And the thing is it moves
So fast that any of you that are not using it in your businesses
Like you will literally be left behind
That it's not like maybe you're gonna be left behind you will literally be left behind
So for me, it's like i'm definitely an evangelist to be able to use this as glue to your company
Because if you're not using it i'm gonna give a one last little representation
Um of how I see this. Okay, so anyone that's not using let's say gpt4. Okay, you have to have plus on chat gpt
So if you're not using gpt4
It's the comparison of someone that is still in a library. Okay looking for books
Literally running around the library opening books and looking for information versus the person that is on a phone on google
That is what chat gpt4 the usage of it in your company everything you're doing personally versus the old google
And i'll just leave it at that
Hey great take uh dcl great to see you go ahead
Uh, yeah, I joined it kind of an odd time
Shout out to one existence who's down here. Just sent me the link I saw
And um, i'm very interested in ai in the metaverse. I work heavily in here. Um, I don't want to
Uh kind of shit on jonathan. I think it was jonathan talking by any means
But anybody hold on ladies and gentlemen when someone says they don't want to do something
That means they're literally about to do exactly that
But it's all good. Johnson strong. I know it dcl. Let them have it
It's just that any time somebody says
AI like you can make thousands thousands of dollars a month just by utilizing this ai
Or just plug this ai into your company and it's going to be amazing
Like this is just not how things work. Like i'm a huge proponent of ai
I utilize mid journey and chat gpt all of the time
Um, but like I I think one main component that is left out is how do you integrate that into your company?
Oh, wow, that's going to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars
dozens of thousands of man hours, maybe millions of dollars, right and it's just like it's not that simple
and when they were talking about um
You know waiting for somebody else to create an api. I mean, yes, that's exactly what companies do
Right. I mean they create the there are companies that are specialized in certain technological spaces
And they create extremely complex and efficient solutions that other companies can then leverage
With the blockchain you didn't see
Every company in the world going out and creating their own blockchain because that would be idiotic
Utilizing the blockchain when necessary or where it makes sense or where they want to explore
And that's where ai is right now in my personal opinion
Yeah, let's go back to jonathan to see if he has a rebuttal
So I hear these type of things all the time
And and what I do is I basically talk to a lot of these companies and everything like that
And my whole essence behind what i'm saying
First of all i'm not saying that you're going to get in and make thousands of dollars
What a hundred percent i'm saying is that if your company is not utilizing
The artificial intelligence systems that are available to them and building upon that stuff
They will get passed like crazy by the companies that are and i'm not just saying that's going to happen
That's already happening. I'll give you a great example. There was a mastermind that we went to
Um called copy accelerator one of the one of the best marketers in the world was given a presentation as he literally fully pivoted
Okay, i'm talking about fully pivot into ai himself
And he has a staffing company that has thousands of employees
Now with the integration of ai that they put in before all their competitors. They went from a person servicing
To now one of their actual employees that's utilizing the ai technology. They're servicing eight clients
Okay, you know what that does?
75 of people just lost their jobs. I mean 75 of the costs that this company had
Tell me how a competitor can even come close to catching up with them
They can't because they're not going to be able to so if they don't integrate those type of systems and have their employees and everybody on board
Utilizing this technology. Let's just say at the simple basis the companies that are allowed to let's say gpt four
Especially for startups small companies, right?
Some of the bigger companies are not going to do it because of privacy
But other companies will literally be left behind and i'm seeing this happen in real time
And the thing is because this is exponential
It's going to happen even faster and faster and the companies that are not using it are going to be way left behind
So I didn't think you were shitting on me by the way at the end of the day
But I know for a fact because i'm seeing it happen in the marketplace and companies are literally right now
Instead of being proactive with it. I'm seeing companies go reactive because they're like, holy shit
Our competition is literally charging half the price. How's that even possible?
It's because they're using a lot of these things and they're integrating these things faster in the competition
I think on the topic of reactive getting on what uh, johnathon was saying there when we think about ai
There's different versions of ai, right?
And the first time i ran a wrote my first ai program was five years ago for self-driving, you know automated cars
So when we think about the different kinds of ais different it's also good to differentiate the fact that you know
Are we talking about reactive machines? Are we talking about?
You know limited memory are we talking about theory of the mind?
it just you know when we talk about ai sounds so broad but
You know, we have to also understand because people are learning we have to kind of identify
Specifically what is applicable at a certain point in time on what kind of ai is actually being used for different tools
Yeah, thank you. Um, if I could just respond real quickly
I used to work in tech strategy consulting and we would manage large migrations for
The fortune 100 companies and large companies around the world
I know just from going on prem to it cloud in terms of your servers
That last company that I was working with it was a 65 million dollar project over the course of two years
and the cto quit and transferred because he had been through a previous migration
And just did not want to go through it again. He knows how difficult it is
So just the blanket statement of if your company isn't using ai you're falling behind is like i'm sorry
It's idiotic because you don't understand for companies that are bringing in
hundreds of billions of dollars a year and employ
Hundreds of thousands of people around the world and you have systems that have been built out across decades
You don't just all of a sudden go. Hey, let's plug chat gpt in and it's going to improve
It's like no that is a multi-million dollar endeavor that will take years to do
Like it's just so dumb to say oh you're all plug ai in and oh, it's all good now
You're dumping you can you can take that over
You probably may not know the audience that we're probably speaking to here now
Because there's probably not a lot of people that are in the fortune 500 fortune 100 that are setting up these systems
A lot of the individuals in here which i'm speaking to have small businesses have little mini startups that work for a smaller organization
So you're saying that it's idiotic. It's when knowing more you're proud of who you're speaking to dcl at the end of the day
Earlier that you were working with fortune 150 companies
The only reason I brought that up is because earlier when you were shilling this you specifically stated
I work with companies in this atmosphere
I said it was a presentation that i made to speak to someone the majority of the people that i'm speaking to
Are small businesses and I made a couple representations of friends of mine that are in the space that completely pivoted in that direction
That's like literally the majority of the companies in the united states are who they're not fortune 500 companies
They're small businesses and individuals here want to hear about what they could do to do better dcl
You're talking about something completely different trying to be clever with it and it doesn't even make sense at all
The only reason I brought up that reference is because you specifically mentioned fortune 100 companies
If you're talking to small business organizations
Then yes, I mean it definitely can be utilized like if you're a one person shop or a five person shop or something like that
You can utilize it in great ways
But it is still I mean every man hour you spend trying to train an ai bot or something like that
Is a man hour that isn't spent on sales isn't spent on supply chains
So there's a trade-off in every situation and it isn't as easy as you know
Let's just let's just show how many companies how many companies have you started?
Okay. Okay. I've had over 30 companies and i've literally helped over 500 companies and i'm literally seeing it in real time
So what you're saying is trying to throw people off the direction of how important it is for them to actually integrate these technologies
So you got to be careful what you're saying because you're going to take people off guidance
Because it's really beneficial and i'm seeing it in real time happening like crazy
So don't do that for people that are trying to learn about what's going on. I'm saying like like I don't know who you are
But just the way you talk sounds like a shill
I'm going to stop talking now because three other people have their hands raised and I do want to hear what they they think as well
Probably one of the best things you guys said
Ac yeah, no, um, so I am gonna take a little bit of the side of you know
The automation and efficiency side. I I believe algorithms have really been a part of society forever
I don't think there's anything new. I think what what is happening is that it's now
And so all of those 500 fortune companies you're talking about that had like those automated systems made
Um, I I do think that chat gpt is going to be able to have different types of software created on their own
You know proprietary software levels that does kind of build out these systems where for example chat gpt
Actually built its own profit model. So I think those systems that we've made over time using algorithms are going to quickly be outdated
Because it just does move quicker and we've always done it that way. So with the fortune 500
Companies we've created systems with algorithms. It's always been an algorithm system
It's never not been an algorithm system
So, um, I guess what my point is is that this is just a faster algorithm system and chat gpt actually made its own
Profit model like the if you go look at the investor
Or the creator he says like I have no idea how it's going to make money
but I have total faith in the fact that machine learning will tell me how to make money and
Yeah, it did it predicted it and it's more profitable than any other
Angry go ahead. What's up? I wanted on the topic of customer service interaction
One of the worst things in business is to have two strangers connect on online
One thing most companies that deal with obviously customer service are fine with ai is the fact that it is a great opportunity
to train even their newest employee the reason for that is because
The emotional intelligence required that ai mimics can take away obviously that human, you know back and forth and that
Friction that two people that i've never met each other have to connect on so while I hear um
You know dale's point I look to where johnson is coming from as far as kind of dcl
As far as where johnson is coming as to the fact that ai is proving to be a money saving tool
And as far as kind of looking at this, you know web3 space one of the things that I got intrigued by when I first stepped
Up in here is the application of ai and how that can obviously automate, you know, for example putting out a specific
Of a freaking nft that actually does a specific kind of thing in a very smart way and automate that so
The fact remains is that ai is here to stay and the fact remains is that as any technology that we're ever seeing evolves
Companies will adopt and tooling chips and everything that is required to program code run
Will also adapt and become less expensive
So, you know, I say all this to say that currently companies are saving money of a freaking training ai
To answer the phone and it's actually increasing the bottom line as far as profits go
Yo, what's up, uh pixel I think I think i'm saying it's right pixelings pixelings
Oh, you got it. What's going on? How you doing? Hey, uh, man, I love this conversation. I love it when it gets heated
Um, because that means that means two people they give a shit or talking about something
Um, which is which is a beautiful thing. I I have to say I I
somebody who pumps the brakes and says
Um, listen, you know, there's a bit of a hype machine rolling
Let's let's like reset and take a look at things from a an objective point of view
I do think though whether it's increasing productivity
Um and reducing staff or increasing productivity to take on
More business to do more make more
Or up the level of service overall. I mean, I think like no question
Um that ai is a is something that is is a competitive advantage
No, no question that if you don't use it as an individual
That you're going to fall behind and you know, I do think though in terms of fortune 500 fair point
I've worked at Activision Blizzard
Mattel and Hasbro, uh and marvel as and I can tell you
The operational matrix complexities within these companies
mean that any implementation of something new from an operational standpoint
explode the the potential issues
And make it really difficult to implement
Uh, you know, it's going to take them time
Will they will they eventually yes, they're just going to be as with all things behind the curve, you know people
Typically say oh if you're at a fortune 500, it's like you're piloting a barge
Or like, you know a giant a giant, uh carnival cruise line. It takes forever to fucking turn that thing around
Um, I think there's something to that but eventually it turns around
So, you know, it's just a matter of time. It's a calculation of time
And it's an inevitability
Uh, I actually I think dog tag had their hand up first
The best thing about my spaces is that I run my spaces so I want to hear from you
Um, I so so I do I mean I jumped into this space when I jumped into this space
And like I mentioned, um from what jonathan was saying at that time he had mentioned, you know fortune 100 companies
a lot of what's going on social media shills like
Yo, just you know hook up ai and it's all good now
But it's extremely complex to do especially on a large scale that already has
A system that has been developed by thousands of people over over decades, right?
Now from a smaller business perspective like myself for example, I use ai but
It still wasn't easy to start using chat gpt is you know, just one example
But then, you know, are you utilizing the api and chat gpt for are you creating your own ai bots?
Are you using mid-journey? Are you using?
Um steve.ai right? There are all of these ai
Softwares that are out there now that still just to be adopted have a very large learning curve
And again, you know, like if you're somebody that's running a company with
You know less than 10 employees if you want to start learning all of these different ai applications
It is a time dedication. You need to spend hours of time
Learning these different softwares and they're like in any situation. There are trade-offs, right?
It can be very very beneficial to your company
Worth your time and effort to implement it in the correct way right now. I agree that there is also an exponential growth curve
I also agree that you know the pandora's box was opened and like ai is here now
It's not going away, right?
But it's about helping people use it in the right way versus telling people
You just got to plug this in and it's everything's going to be okay
All of your problems are going to be solved like that. That's kind of where i'm at
Real quick. Uh, first of all, ladies and gentlemen quick reset you are now tuned into ai metaverse on cut episode two
We met up places and friends
Yes, profits is on the job right now
This is my corporate hat and uh, I am the proud social media director of meta places
Make sure you guys check out meta places underscore i-o. Uh, we actually will have the founder here eventually
To come up and talk. Anyway, more importantly, um, we're going to get into the metaverse part in just a second gets these hands
But really appreciate everybody's uh participation. It's been good so far dog tag. You got it. And then kayla
Hey, thanks a lot for having me up here profits and appreciate you yielding earlier there dcl
Just wanted to say that I liked what angry said earlier about there being kind of like different types of ai
And uh, it almost feels somewhat like the connection between like virtual reality and augmented reality in some ways
Um, like a couple years ago. I trained an ai chatbot to talk like 80s
Like 80s and 90s action movie heroes
uh, like Arnold Schwarzenegger, right and uh, put that in my discord just to you know, let people have fun and um
That feels kind of like uh, you know like an ai light, right?
And i'm just looking forward to
When we get to kind of like a point where there's like full-blown ai that can improve people's lives
Like maybe it might get to a point where it could yeah be feasible for one person to run their own business and um
Kind of have like an entire accounting function going right like that's kind of complex
So that could take care of that for them and they don't have to worry about that, right?
And then like another thing too
I thought about is like I have a friend who has made like he kind of took my chatbot idea and he took it to the next level
He's made one where it it must be using mid-journey or something like that
He hasn't told me the secret sauce, but it basically looks like a a british guy
It looks like pretty realistic and it talks it simulates the voice everything like so not only does it come up
It's gonna say but it actually like says it
And I feel like apple's been using that for some time actually come to think of it because when you call apple
You ever notice how it's kind of like it sounds like a real person
But then you're like wait, this isn't real and it even adds simulated like mouse or keyboard clicks and stuff
So yeah, it's just kind of interesting to see that this could potentially bring that level of customer service
To somebody who doesn't have much resources
But if they're clever enough to figure out the technology they can maybe get an edge
So yeah, appreciate you having me up here
Oh, no problem, um, go ahead kayla
Okay. So, you know, I really want to just say, you know dcl I appreciate people like you because we need a voice like that
But um that you know what jonathan was saying and like what they were saying in general
I do think they are ahead of us as far as like that technology goes
Like I think a lot of these bigger companies sort of have that technology and so me right i'm self-employed
Um, i'm a grant writer. I'm a writer in general
I've been able to 10x what i'm doing right now
And I will point out that it's because I understand AI and I really understand that and so I really want to highlight like dc's point
So facts like we we need to be able to teach people what they're doing
But me personally as a grant writer, like it's not going to be a popular thing to say
But I can pop out 10 grants now and edit them as can
In comparison to last month or I guess oh wow five months ago when it would take me 30 days
So I can help more people
I can definitely start coming to spaces like this where
Prophets will attest to the fact that i'm here way more now and it's specifically because of AI it sucks to say it
But I do just kind of feel like maybe i'm on a
Like even playing field now
Yeah, definitely dcl you got it and zico great to see you. Thanks for pulling up. Go ahead. Dcl
Yeah, um appreciate the uh
Conversation kayla and i'm just curious. So like I find it like I could 10x a lot of things
Through you know ai, right?
But there needs to be a pipeline and I feel like that's another thing that people don't discuss
You know, like if you only have one client and you start focusing on AI because you know
Now you can generate content for 10 clients. Well, do you have that sales and marketing team?
Do you have that pipeline established if you already have?
A pipeline that you cannot currently fulfill
Then 10xing your work productivity and your output is, you know, a huge game changer, but if you spend
dozens of hours or days or weeks or months trying to implement AI in the right way
When you don't even have a pipeline established. I just think that's a very big like difference and I feel like people don't talk about
Establishing that pipeline, you know, they're they just talk about fulfilling a non-existent one
so I guess my question to you is um
I I guess did you already have that pipeline? How did you get that pipeline and you know, what is your experience there?
I love that question, honestly, so, you know, um, I do think it's important to have a pipeline i'm a strategist
So when when i'm writing a grant, um, it's usually for non-profits. Let's say for example
I'm writing a grant for a dog shelter
Um, the pipeline is the strategy i'm just writing the strategy. So I edit the strategy for government funding
So the pipeline is i'm writing funding and then they have to fulfill that pipeline
So I am lucky in that sense. It's a really good point that the pipeline is
In the client's hand. It's my client who
Fulfills the pipeline and i'm just the writer so for me as a writer
And and so I think you know as a strategist that really is my opinion because I don't think a lot of writers would agree
I completely hear what you're saying. Like you don't just have um an expectation that you can do whatever without a whole team
But the pipeline for me is to kind of push out that information
As fast as I can because it's really hard to get grants funded
So I would spend a lot of time writing two grants that didn't get denied or funded but now I can do 10
Um, and maybe four will get will get published
Zico welcome to the stage i'd love to hear from you go ahead and then one existence
Hey, thanks for having me up. Yeah. Um, so enjoying the conversation
Um as with this this subject as far as it goes in general
There's just so much information and it's so overwhelming. It gives me a lot of anxiety
And I have a bookmark folder, um on twitter that I save all of the most interesting tweets that I see about ai
Um, i'm looking at it right now
You're one of them's one of them that i'm looking at right now is people in their 20s are making 240k a year
Only using chat gpt here are seven chat gpt plugins. You can use to start your own business
And um, and to be honest, it's not really that it's I guess it's informative, but it's not
Very educational, you know, and I think that is where a lot of the biggest opportunities are right now
Just as somebody who wants to learn more and figure out
You know the who the what the how and then maybe even most importantly but the why you know, because um
Obviously like this is a new technology in any time that you can take advantage of a new technology
You can benefit from it, you know, maybe just as much as the people who are creating the technology
Um, you know, I remember like back in mid 2000s, like it was in sales and um the internet was basically
You know e-commerce and and all that was just getting started
And um, I remember companies like being reluctant to to go online, you know
So I don't see why that's going to be any different this time around
Um, but I guess like the like more specific examples and and especially
Um, you know for who you know, not like to say like here's how content creators can leverage
Um ai would be one thing but I think like the more specific you go then like the more
relatable that it's going to be and and
Maybe that gives people more compelling reasons. I know that that's kind of what i'm looking for and I do see like
You know, like I said, I see a lot of tweets about AI
Here's a suggestion for anybody listening if you're working on something maybe an ai for twitter bookmarks
So that I go back and actually read through them
But yeah, that's that's pretty much all I had to
So thanks for having me up
I'm actually gonna go back to the audience and just keep listening but uh, but thank you prophets and chris for having me up here
Oh legend you already know before we get into the next question
I want to hear from one existence and uh, yeah, go ahead
First let me say I have never owned a business
Anything I say is definitely not financial advice, but this is my my my thought and what makes sense to me is
the individual companies to actually
Do an analysis or take an assessment on whether it is worth
Venturing into it at this point in time. What I really feel is that
Others have gonna are gonna have put in all the work and they're gonna have the tools
That you will want to use and at that point would be probably be a better time to
Get into ai with your business
Where you don't have to spend
That man hours doing it unless of course you yourself are
You like playing around with it and you're going to spend your free time
Creating something for your business
I think that that's what makes sense most sense to me. Thank you
Appreciate that one existence. Uh, let's go to you wanted to reset the room prophets. You want to get to these hands before we do
Yeah, you guys can get your hands real quick. Go ahead. Uh, let's go to
Let's just angry I could go ahead brother and then we go to
I want to talk about a few things here as far as kind of layers that we're looking at as far as ai goes
You know, we're looking at obviously chat gpt. You know, one of the things I like what kayla spoke about was
It showed that was another process of an ai model that works for her, right?
and when we look at businesses, I think the blanketed statement that obviously and I think
Um, these, you know dcl keeps looking at this too
Is what works for your business and there's always a layer of implementation with any new technology in the business
So it might start a customer service that it might start then it might go to the design department then it might go up to you know
Um market it so when you look at implementation, you got to think about
There are different sections of the business that could probably be boosted with more efficiency
So it's not like taking on the entire enterprise and putting the product and the tool over the entire enterprise, right?
You know, we have to think strategically about what and what kind of layers the ai is required
For different part of the business and I think that's one thing that we're kind of touching on in this
But I think we need to kind of also look at that too
What's going on uh victor nice to have you what's up? Hey, hey, hey
I think it's about time that I hopped up on here and just shed some flowers
I've been listening to some of the replays of the spaces and I think uh, you're absolutely running a tight ship here
This is amazing. Uh, everyone that I see join the space like they're they're they're they know their shit like
they're in the space you could tell they're doing their homework and um,
I love how I heard you mention like show up with a notebook to take some notes because that's truth right there like
People should be showing up to take notes because we learn a lot more when we're actively listening and then
Trying to piece together what we're learning and how it relates to what we can do about it
So I just wanted to come up give some flowers out and um say that yeah ai fucking rocks
I use it every single day in business
Um, I use uh fireflies and otter to take notes during the meetings that i'm on
That way I don't have to take notes myself and it uh, it uh, it basically transcribes
It annotates who says what when what action items are spoken about?
Um dates times a follow-up. Um
Positive and negative things said it's absolutely outstanding. I highly recommend it if you are in zooms if you are in meetings
Um, and if you just need someone to take notes for you
Uh otter.ai and fireflies.ai absolutely amazing tools because they allow you to hit the replay
You know if you're in a sports team, you know that sports they watch the replay that way they can know what to improve on
And if you got a business if you got something that you care about that you're building
You want to be able to document and then go back and hit the replay to find out
What you're able to improve on and right now this is very superficial level ai
Later on ai is going to be able to develop
So where you know you're going to be able to see what to improve on or maybe you just copy and paste a transcription from
Uh fireflies and post it up on on on chat gbt and then you're
Cross-leveraging ais to be able to ask it and prompt engineer it to tell you like hey
What should I improve on here or there? Where could I have better engineered my questions or uh times or tonality?
Um, so, you know, we're still very early on but um, i'm definitely bullish on on leveraging ai
Every single day for at least an hour or two
If if you care about staying on the edge and obviously you do because you're in this twitter space
So just the fact that you're in this twitter space says that you know
You you care enough and if you don't use ai every single day
This is this is that friendly reminder that you've been waiting for to uh to get up on it
That's victor's touch for today. Um, I talk about financial literacy and
I'm bullish on on the space and supporting people that are making things happen
Thanks for having me. Yo, bro. Thank you so much. Um,
Definitely said I was gonna go for an hour and i'm not so it's all good. We're gonna go more. It is what it is
Uh, because we gotta talk about the metaverse
So I want to ask, you know, um, oh actually go ahead dco and then i'm gonna get into my metaverse question
Well, I work full-time in the metaverse. So i'd love to get into a metaverse discussion
I did just want to mention just one thing not really a response to anybody just a blanket statement
that if you're using things like mid-journey and chat gpt 3.5 and you're trying to have a competitive advantage
Conversation you have and everything you put in there becomes part of a public database
so like literally if you're working for a company and
company information to chat gpt to find answers to questions and problems
So, you know, just just remember ai is great
But depending on what you're using that's now available to everybody
Where do you where do you find that that information on uh, what's what's input into chat gpt? That's very interesting
What sorry, could you restate the question information is open to everybody how do we find that information?
Uh, because chat gpt is constantly learning from all of the inputs and when you start using it
You have to state that yes every question you ask it's part of a learning model. It's ongoing
It's part of the public. So every time somebody uses chat gpt 3.5
It's learning from what you say
So for example, you start giving it your company's financial statements about number four
It might not have known that before but now it will know that and it might not regurgitate it immediately
But over time it will start developing
You know that kind of response if that kind of information is told to it enough
You said chat gpt 3.5, but not for
Well, so there is a difference because chat gpt 4 I know you can utilize it through a subscription
But you also have to apply if you're actually integrating it as an api
And if you're using chat gpt 4 as an api
Then you can train it locally
So it's not part of like the the way that you would be training the model would not be attached to the the public
Model so that's why I wanted to differentiate that like, you know, depending on what you're using
Just be aware of what you're disclosing. That's gold bro. Thank you so much
All right, metaverse question let's go
Uh, also ladies and gentlemen, you are officially tuned in to AI metaverse.cut episode two
I don't want to get too I feel like you know
A lot of metaverse conversations turned into sometimes like a regulation conversation because of what we're allowed to do and what we're not allowed to do
Not get into that if we can
But I want to know how will for anybody here is open to the panel. How will the metaverse unfold and transform enterprises?
And more importantly, I know we started kind of getting into that as far as AI goes
But I really like i'm fascinated with all this stuff
But I know for a fact like I got my cousins the
What with the goggles? I don't know why i'm getting the it's late later. No, what is it the quest? Yep. What is it?
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I got them one of those two years ago for christmas
I don't think he uses it anymore. I'm not gonna lie. He definitely still plays games and does coding
But I don't think he uses it. He said he does sometimes. I don't believe him. Um, i've used mine twice
I got seasick. So I kind of know some of these answers, but how will we like?
Not only how will the metaverse unfold and transform enterprises?
But how will we get the the mass to adopt it we get it's it's it's already difficult for them to adopt crypto
So how do we get them to adopt the metaverse?
Don't know if it was for the same if you kept it up for that or
No, so like I guess basically, you know
I I think that if if we start like, you know
Kind of giving them these systems that we've been talking about right like kind of how I said
They they've been using automate, you know, like automi
Like uh systematic systems for a long time algorithms not realizing it once they just kind of realize that it's the same thing
We've been doing all along which is naturally happening now kind of like, you know
Oh a video game is uh, you know also a metaverse
I think like the more we get towards that the more they're going to naturally just be like we have to do this because
The next generation will need that that's what the next generation expects from an enterprise now
Y'all apologize. I was getting some uber eats. Um, we both got up to get food. I didn't got enough for water
Actually, no, i'm sorry angry and then victor
One of the things that we look at in product design always is the ability for us to move around parts and move around assemblies
And I remember three years ago
The first time I ever put on some goggles was to look at an engine and just take the engine apart
and obviously we have evolved past that now to where
You know we're looking at obviously trying to do, you know prototype development and see how
Everything is going to interact before we can actually make something physically, you know, but just do everything in the virtual space
So I just think that that saves a lot of money right there and just kind of a lot of time
And that's one way at least i'm using it and i've used it
I think as far as you know, the metaverse goes and whatever people like to
Coin it as today in terms of people interacting in there face to face and all that I think it's definitely going to also
Change the way we work, too
Appreciate that awesome take yo, uh victors i'm not too sure we have the hand up for someone else could go
I'm changing my son right now
One of the things that I like take a look at, you know when i'm
Trying to see like where we're headed with it, right?
Like a lot of people work in the metaverse stuff and you know, a lot of my friends are doing like game
Gamification within the metaverse and trying to build out stuff and there's just so much competition, right?
Like so many people are building different metaverses. Um, I forgot
There's like a really cool project
I think it's called like portal or something and they're trying to make like these gaps between each one of them
But then I asked a question and this sorry, i'm gonna go a little philosophical on this one, but it's like
Are we really going to get into the metaverse itself?
There's like this it's a movie slash almost seemed like a documentary, but it was a movie and I think it was called
2049 I don't know if any of you guys watched it
But I think it was on like amazon and I randomly came across it and it was it was done in like 2017
And what I saw out of it, I was like, holy shit, like these guys were seeing things so clearly
Um that let's say that there's gonna be a lot less jobs because of ai
Let's just say I don't believe that's the the case, but let's just pretend that it is and that's what everybody is talking about
Um, what do people end up doing? So in this movie, um, they depict that there's three types of people, right?
There's one person that basically is fully tapped in to the metaverse itself
Um, there's one person that's a hybrid that they're basically out in the real world a lot more
And then they're also in the metaverse at the same time
Hence you could call it the matrix whatever and then there's the people that are outside of the metaverse itself and they're completely different zones
Because all these jobs are basically gone now. What ends up happening is that people are playing games at a high extent
Um, so one of the things that I end up seeing is that you know, the monetization model will be very much after gamification
In this movie, basically people are jumping from like these different metaverses
Um to each each one of these other metaverses to play games for prizes very much kind of like if you guys remember
Ready player one. It was like something and to that extent where people are just playing all these games
Um, so how many of us are really going to want to be inside these goggles, right?
So the goggles first of all Shanice just said it right now like they're uncomfortable as hell
I try to mom myself super uncomfortable. Most people that I know super uncomfortable people don't want to do that, right?
So the realistic approach to it is is it going to be contact lenses?
Okay, that will literally either have us in an augmented reality type of world or is it going to be fuck
I just my contacts almost fell out of my eyes right now. What?
So so I have I actually have a couple friends that are working on some contact lenses that literally do augmented realities we speak
Shanice i'll probably like introduce you to one of them. Um, he's down in miami believe it or not
Um, and they're working on this right now to basically create augmented world. So my question is, you know
Philosophically and this is for everybody else. It's like are we really going to want to be in the metaverse?
You know, you want to call it the matrix or the hell you want to do it?
Or are we going to be walking around with augmented reality?
Slash maybe a little bit of virtual reality through our contact lenses or these glasses
So it's like there's a way different direction because if someone gets it like for example, mark Zuckerberg
He he went all in on metaverse, you know what I mean?
And he's looking at the goggles. I saw a commercial today of the new oculus 3 or whatever it was
They most people are still not going to want to wear that
So are we looking at going in that direction in reality?
Maybe it's just going to be a more of an augmented reality type of world
You know, is that possible?
I don't know if anyone has some feedback on this but you know
Does everyone really want to be in the metaverse or do we possibly do augmented reality where I could sit down?
I have my contact lenses on and i'm sitting on my bed
And then all of a sudden I can see all my friends around me and we're having a meeting or something like that
That doesn't really have to be the metaverse per se it could be augmented in my reality through contact lenses
Which are way easier to use
Well said all right. Let's get through these hands power. Let's get it real quick. Get to your points
I want to hear them all give everybody a chance victor and then one existing. Yeah, I just want to answer
Um, I believe that was uh, that was who's asked that question that was tcg
Jonathan Jonathan, that was a great question, man
Um, I could tell you've really been thinking about this. Uh, so basically my my take on this and just for context
Um, I was using virtual reality headsets back in 2012 and 2013. I I attended a
A vocational academy. So I worked in
I worked in um in in on cars all the time
I was a painter and what I was doing with the virtual reality headsets was I was learning how to paint cars
And car parts without being exposed to the spray booth
And and having to load up the paint and mix the paint
And and and having to you know, turn on that very expensive booth and having to deal with you know
Wasting pain and messing up car parts in the learning process
So, um, that was that was back in 2014 and 2015
So some of the ways that I see this playing out what you're saying is um, it's gonna be a mix, you know
It's there's gonna be virtual reality and there's gonna be
Augmented reality and it's gonna have its different purposes
Augmented reality is gonna be more so for the people that are like you said in between worlds. Um, that are like just um
Your maps are gonna be on your on your augmented reality headset or or contact lenses that they're already
You know your identity the there's there's like, um a black box episode
I'm, not sure if that was the name of the show
But um where you could see people's social media and their social status
from the augmented reality headsets
uh, some of the ways that I see
Augmented and virtual reality really playing a big part in society would be through education. We saw
Everyone through education and workplace balance. We saw everyone go completely virtual in 2020
And that was just a very that was just like a little teaspoon
I was just like a little teaspoon for the water hose that is coming. Um, because we know years ago
Uh, we had just these weird headsets that had to be connected all the time
Um bluetooth wasn't a thing and now like everything is so streamlined. You could uber eat your food
You could wireless headsets. Uh, I could I could send
I could send a video from my computer to my tv without even needing to connect a wire to it
And it took less than 10 years to go from from that point to now
Um, so it's definitely going to be here a lot quicker than we see it education work
friendships playing games chess, uh fucking cam jam and
All kinds of shit is going to be virtual
Um, and it's just about you know being here in these spaces and finding a niche
You said that there was a lot of people building in it right now
But there's oh that's only a very small fragment compared to
The amount of people that are going to start building in it and all the companies that are going to start rushing this
Once it becomes massively adopted. I don't really know how that's going to happen. But uh,
Go ahead and blink and it'll be here
I'm blinking in my fucking contacts. I'm fell out i'm picking them up and now i'm in the metaverse
That ass though that's how it's gonna be that fucking ass i'm dead ass for real trust me
Hold on johnson. I can test some shit out. Just make sure we got a sign some shit that i'm not gonna go blind
Uh, because i'm very blind i've had a contact when I was 11 i'm 30 one existence
Go ahead. Not the same pair by the way. Go ahead, bro
I I don't know about contacts, but definitely glasses i'll say on that but uh, just a little bit of i've uh
I metatracked the metaverse. I check out all the different platforms that I can i've been to many
I have a list of oh about 68
PCG i'm pretty positive you're on there
You're either uh cardano or binance if i'm not mistaken
I want to answer at the moment, but we are cross chain
Oh cool. Cool. Cool. Cool
I haven't been into yours, but I hope to one day. Um
But uh i've been in twitter spaces. I actually hosted one of the first
Twitter space to bring x five representatives from
It's it's no one answer to your question and I think it's going to come in waves
There's games in the metaverse
but until those games are
Like what the gamers can play right now until you can play that way in the metaverse. Uh-uh
I highly doubt they're coming
Education definitely definitely businesses are already having meetings in there. Um
But uh, let's see. What is it? Um
Shopping in the meta being able to shop in the metaverse and with the ar v r x r whatever you want to call it
And to make it a full experience
Also interoperability which is getting closer and closer
Um where you can go seamlessly from one platform to the other wearing the exact same thing and in your car
If you so choose or even airplane
It's oh and the other thing is too making it so they don't even really know they're they've come into web 3
So they they don't want to they're not going to want to have to deal with the wallet
And so much more which is some of the things, you know, keeping people away from
Love it. Thank you for that, sir
Bearded what's going on? And then uh, kayla or muted and then zikko zikko's back
I'll try to be quick because i'm in the middle of nowhere, but um for all the like old
og gamers in here like you know
There was a functional vr headset back in uh, like mid 90s and like nintendo came out one
Who was it? I couldn't afford one, but my my cousins grew up with a little bit of money
So I got I got I got to play around with one
It didn't pick up any steam then and I think it's like having trouble now because like people are age
Like and I might be speaking for myself, but like
Like I think our expectations are like set higher than you know, what's currently available
And like a lot of these metaverse experiences are like they they exist, right?
And like like I think jonathan was saying it jumping from world to world like
My my 15 year old daughter like does that all goddamn day on on uh roadblocks and so does her sister, right?
It's exactly what it is multiple experiences multiple little like stupid little games and and uh, you know levels or whatever
And like I think the tech's like slowly being built out for like that generation
there's like a very slight few of us you either got to be like a
Like a nerd or like a hardcore gamer that's you know in the tech to really be into this stuff
So I don't think it's like currently being marketed like to us for gaming like like
To the masses for like gaming right now
But it is like it is being used and even competitively a good friend of ours
Their son is actually a sponsored fps player that in a in a in an oculus fps game
so there is like a scene, but it's like
Very small and it's really geared to like a younger audience in my opinion
All right, I had to come back up here for this one because I love this subject and I love the uh
Philosophical conversation around it. So here's here's like one perspective
maybe that I don't hear too many people talking about but
You think about what's metaverse is, you know, a lot of it's focused on ar-vr and I think it's both
But I think even more than that it's it's the internet with more sensory engagement, right? And so like
What i'm what i'm really trying to get to here is this this point about how we communicate and the way that like
Our communication gets broken down is 55 percent of it is through body language alone, right?
And then audio is 38 percent and then verbal the words we actually use that's only seven percent, right?
So think about the way that these audio chat spaces that have only existed for the last like three years
Right. Think about how much different the way that we communicate with each other is
Just because like the way that i'm doing with you guys, we're all doing right now, right?
This is a totally different vibe than um, just having an exchange on twitter through text alone
So what I think the metaverse is going to do is it's going to open up that um, because we don't really have any um
You know for the body language stuff you could record a video, but it's not interactive, right? So the more interactive that that um
Or the more interactive enablement whatever with our senses
And body language being such a big part of the way that we communicate
I look at it like this. I see these audio chat spaces as kind of like
A gateway to the metaverse, you know, this is like
And and think about this too, right?
I'm probably going to be in three or four different spaces today
And but I haven't left the house the whole time, you know
I would love to be able to put on a headset and just get a feel like i'm in a change of scenery
You know comfort and all that that's still all to be worked out, right?
I mean apple's dropping their headset in what like less than a week
If I don't want to go on too long of a tangent here
But if apple enables like the ability to add a phone line to a headset
Then people can pay for it monthly in the same way they do with a phone and if that happens, then I think this could all happen
Way quicker than anybody is is currently imagining. So that's all
Yo, thank you bro, um, what's up kayla and then dcl
Yeah, no, um, so I think a lot of times and I don't mean any hate because i'm i'm from the usa
Uh, I think we like to you know think it's not happening because it's not happening in the usa
But i've been to japan, um in 2016 because uh as somebody kindly pointed out i'm a nerd gamer
And I went there to play games
Um and study them because that's where it was happening. So over in, you know that area
It's kind of happening for sure actually and I wrote for a korean blockchain
That's like 10 times ahead of us and they're calling it like ar-vr
But what you actually call that is mixed reality
And so somebody hopped into profit space the other day and they were talking about how alibaba had a um, you know
basically, um, I I guess you would call it a collaborative, um mall and um
They're going to do, um, you know visualize data and analytics at the mall
so the employees are going to be able to like interact with 3d visualizations and like explore data from different angles and like
There's a lot it was actually literally in um profit space
But um just to like give you some perspective alibaba has a metaverse and they're also not telling china that it's a metaverse
I don't know what they're telling them it is
But it's it's mixed reality
And so this exists and you guys could like look into mixed reality, um in japan and see it
It's crazy like it's actually mind-blowing. I could go on about it, but I won't
Yeah, I love what kayla just said. I also loved what uh bearded donut and zico had to say but uh
And I think this is kind of to kayla's point
Everybody is talking about it like, you know, what would happen if or you know, what happens when?
But like it it literally is I I mean when the iphone came out
It kind of changed everything and people are talking about like multiple metaverses
But by definition the metaverse is just one thing
It's like comparable to the I don't know the internet for example
So like there are different platforms in the metaverse, but like fortnite and world of warcraft
Like those are technically a part of the metaverse
So just think about like when you go to work you already sit down
Well, maybe not everybody here, but you know for the majority of people they go to work
And they sit down and they look at a computer screen
For x amount of hours and then they leave that screen
What's the difference between having that screen?
One foot away from your face or having goggles on your face and that screen is one inch away
And you can just do a lot more with it, right?
Like we we're already there. This is already happening. It's not a when or an if or what happens
It's like no, this is like this is life right now
Appreciate the take angry go ahead my brother
I just want to go back to
Jonathan's original question as to how we interact with the metaverse, right?
And this comes back to customer discovery because right now
In the customer discovery phase we're kind of trying to figure out, you know
What is going to work or what will not work and then what will probably be adapted a little bit faster
And what that looks like as far as goggles go as far as basically lens contact lenses go it goes to the customer discovery
Which then is going to lead us to the product market fit in which obviously things are going to work for a large amount of people
and I think at this point in time, it's kind of
immature premature for us to jump the gun on that because
We did not know that we needed one and we did not know it was going to take up so much of our time and productivity
Throughout the day and that just comes back down to obvious to the points of connection
So when we look at this product market fit what's going to come out of it are the points of connection that will work
I think humanity is the overall goal for us to thrive and grow
Damn, bro. I miss angry candies takes
And he just needed me to have an ai metaverse space to come back
Um great great great takes. Wow. Look at well, look at that
Look at that. I stumped you all you have nothing to say
Now i'm gonna ask the the very spicy questions
Um are regulators ready for the metaverse and what I mean by that
There is so much information
I know this because it's in crypto like they don't even know they as in like
You know the 70 year olds that still make the decisions for the government
They don't even know how the fuck metamask works
And like they got to hire people to do all this stuff
And that's why like the irs just hired like all these people for crackdown on this crap. So like
When I say are regulators ready for the metaverse, I don't think they are but i'm asking because there's a lot of stuff they don't know about
Within crypto imagine what they don't know about within the metaverse. So to the panel
Do we think they're ready? Yes or no dco take it away
uh, yeah, this is an interesting question and honestly
If you look at like the reason block, um, not blockchain
Sorry, the reason that bitcoin was invented and basically the foundation of all cryptocurrency
having a global payment system that isn't tied to regulatory institutions
Um that that doesn't have to comply with certain policies
It's spreading right it's getting more adopted. So I don't I think
So i'm from the united states and in the united states
Uh in the past I guess maybe three months now
We've had I think five major bank collapses and the last time a major bank collapsed was like
You know like the great recession
Um, and so it's a very interesting time right now. We literally have banks collapsing left and right
That is causing businesses to fail
Um, it's just the economy is very odd and with crypto gaining more adoption. I feel like regulators
They're they're just going to have to adopt the united states already owns a lot of cryptocurrency
A lot of it was confiscated in drug busts and things like that black market dealings
Um, but they have hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions in crypto that they're sitting on
I think from a regulation standpoint, they're just trying to determine how do we profit from this the most?
And I just think with the way things are going right now
Regulations globally are going to have to change I think that governments and institutions are going to realize that hey
You know, we're not just confined by these borders on this land
Like you know, we're working globally now
And you know, maybe that's a globalization like theory or perspective, but I just think that's the way that we're headed
Zico or yeah zico and then will what's up welcome
Yeah, so um, that's a great point on like the global regulation aspect of it and
Um, I don't I don't really tie the universe in with crypto necessarily
Uh, because I think that the metaverse is going to be so much bigger than crypto
And if anything the metaverse, uh is probably going to advance much faster than crypto has
Uh, but with that being said i'm also not very bullish on on u.s. Regulators
Um, I i'm not a fan like and I don't like the way that politics I hate politics
You know, I hate talking about politics, especially on twitter not necessarily on spaces
I think it's maybe a little bit more productive to do when we're where we can have conversations hear each other's voice
But man, I don't know like i'm i'm just
Sometimes I think about because i'm in the united states as well and I think about where do I want to live?
And I don't know if I want to stay here and and you know
I don't think that the united states is going to get to to dictate the terms as far as like the global
Regulation on this stuff because kayla was already saying, you know, like if you go to other countries like japan
Um, and i'm sure there are other countries that are already implementing it as well and are further along than we are
Um, yeah, I just I don't know they haven't been very good at understanding technology and
And that's uh, that's concerning. I yeah, that's that that's that's a much much bigger question
I don't have an answer for right now
What's up, well good to see you hey careful will there's experts in here
I mean there could be all the experts in the world really doesn't matter
Um, I wanted to kind of touch base on the irs thing
I think there was like something floating around and it was like 89 000 new irs people were hired
It was significantly less numbers and a lot of that didn't actually end up even going through because funding ended up getting kind of taken away from that
So like irs, I mentioned it to allude to the fact that they're trying to crack down even though they have no idea what the fuck is going on
Yeah, yeah, i'm gonna i'm gonna lead into that for sure
Um, yeah, I think um a lot of it
Yeah, a lot of it was to try and I think not necessarily
I don't even know if it's like crypto specifically or just like to crack down on taxes specifically, right?
Um, I think they're just trying to find ways to recoup money through taxation
They know people are avoiding taxes through different methods and I don't think it's just crypto specific
There's lots of ways to launder money through the system
Um, especially through hard assets
Yeah, I I think um when you look at it from that perspective
They're just trying to catch, you know, as many people as they can when they start adding people
It's not to catch rich peoples to catch your normal people
Um, it's usually not a good sign
And and I would also kind of get into the scenario of a lot of people talk about how they they can regulate crypto
How they can do things occur that there's nothing they can do there's really not like i've looked at it from many different angles
Like they have to attach every everything you go through the blockchain is numbers, right?
Like my wallet doesn't say my name
My my ins and outs from centralized exchange to non-centralized exchange to nexus like they don't know where my money is floating around that
Um, it's just it's too difficult for them to navigate. The only way that they can catch money really is is on off-ramp, right?
So if you off-ramp on-ramp, yeah, they can see that money
But if you're not off-ramping once you on-ramp, there's there's really nothing they can find
And I would say like there's not a lot of good ways to off-ramp except to a bank
Right. So everything's going to be visible to them if you turn it back into cash at the end of the day
There's there's lots of other ways you can kind of skirt around it through like
I would say debit cards like that allow you to use your crypto and stuff like that
But a lot even a lot of that's regulated in a way that where you know, those places will actually report to the government
That's why you're able to use them
You know in the u.s. And so on and so forth. I'm from the u.s
And I think a lot of people look at it like, you know
All these governments and all these countries are going to work together the u.s. Uses the other countries that that's that's how this that's how this relationship works
It's a symbiotic relationship
Everybody else else's currency in the world is devalued by our currency more or less and they're dependent on our currency
Really to kind of keep things flowing and we're kind of that backer for a lot of currencies
so when it comes down to like that like it's like
We we have friends, but we're not really friends, right?
We're friends on face. We're friends on paper with europe and all these other countries
But the reality is is like we use all the other countries. So that's just how this works the symbiotic relationship
I would say um do they try and create
We'll say worldwide regulate. There's there's some you know agreed upon
Not agreed upon scenarios between countries, but every country operates definitely and separately
Um, some some countries are better with crypto than others
I would say like when you look at things like the metaverse and stuff like that
It's such a crazy concept when you when you talk about metaverse today and stuff like that
Because if you think about it, if you start buying things through metaverse, how could they ever?
Ever transact that in a way that they could track that back to you
It's it's actually insane and I thought about it through like nfts even like how do you trace that?
How do you find out who's that is like?
There's so many ways to funnel money through crypto. It's not even funny. This is this is the biggest issue good
I I have to respond here. I'm I'm sorry. I I know i'm skipping the line, but i'm I'm I'm literally
next week teaching a workshop on computational complexity theory
zk proofs and p versus np
And the the whole thing about the blockchain and your transactions not being traceable
Is literally the biggest lie like like ever it's not a lie
It's just that like people believed that years ago
To trace all of this stuff like it's all public. It's a public blockchain
I'm not stating it in that way
I'm stating it in the way of having enough people to be able to go back and track all those through every single citizen
It's not it's not a thing, but they are doing that they are going back in the air tracking it back to those individuals
There's no proof of that like i've never seen no there is there is definitive proof of that
Okay, what what proof is that or where did you find that proof?
Through the irs because i've got on the irs
Many people being arrested due to their blockchain transactions on the darknet
Like I I mean there's like thousands of cases
I mean I like I myself can trace somebody through tornado if I wanted to right?
Like I work in decentral land primarily
We've had people be hacked and then we just find out who they are
Somebody slips up in some way if you are for like some reason
Perfect and create an alias identity
For somebody that doesn't exist and then sets up a bank account and then funds your metamask that way
Like if you basically act like a spy agent for your entire life while you're holding a metamask
Then yes, it might be untraceable. But for the average individual everybody can trace you
What you're stating? All right. I'm not saying it's wrong
What i'm saying though is is numerically
They like you could skip taxes this year just normal taxes for your job
It will take them two to three years to catch up to you
That's what i'm saying like they are behind by a lot
They don't have enough manpower to keep up with blockchain technology, too
They i've already went on their site. I've checked it out
They have tons of hires for people with blockchain knowledge because they don't have people for blockchain knowledge
I think you're both right. Actually, I think you're both right actually
And I think it might be my talking around the point here
I get what will is saying and it's like
They're not they don't have enough manpower and and the resources that it's going to take
That's what i'm saying in order for them to catch up is going to take forever and and but like I don't know man
Like I wouldn't I wouldn't bet against the irs
Like there is there are organizations like chain analysis that exist, you know
And like if the irs were to start working with chain analysis, you know, that might be one one way that they do it
I agree. I remember seeing a book a few years back called investigating crypto currencies
I mean, this is a book that's sold well on amazon
like there's a whole like people who are who are interested in figuring out how to
Profit from this industry like by taking that route. Yeah, I think it's just like
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show if you're just tuning in
AI metaverse on episode two we're still talking about the metaverse, right
Yes. Yeah, okay. I was getting into that
I was actually gonna say it's just so interesting that we were talking about
AI earlier and all these companies using it
But we just think that the government isn't going to use it
Like why wouldn't the irs be using ai to process all of this stuff much more quickly and efficiently
And eliminate workforce like, you know, we we were we were shilling one thing earlier
And now we're just saying like ah, the government's not gonna not going to utilize any of these benefits
I work for the government writing, you know program and I I also I like actually know the direct answer to this
Like I don't want to interrupt but just like pretty much I do wallet forensics, right? The only way to
For you to not for you to hide from me is to make a minor and then make a wallet
That's the only way i'm not going to find you for real. And then after that
Um, the the government has, you know this rule
Executive order 14067 they're making a digital currency. So I I just wanted to like, you know
I i'm on both sides here, but like objectively I can find absolutely everything unless you are a minor. Yeah
Again, I wasn't going to and I don't totally I don't know why it was taking the way it was
I wasn't going to a definitive the government stupid
I was going to a definitive the government, you know doesn't have the manpower to be able to track that many
There's 300 million people in the u.s
There's a hundred thousand two hundred thousand irs agents like really like
I just I met with you. No, no, but but a fair point will from a computer science standpoint
It's not about like having manpower
To track 300 mil like the way it works is the following
You need like a data scientist and a programmer and somebody that understands about taxes, right?
And the three of them sit together and they develop a script to track every money
Every wallet that got some on-ramping and transfer money out of the exchange
And it's a distance from a script, you know, like you know about javascript programming so all that it takes it's some
Deployment of that script on an amazon cloud server and it doesn't matter the manpower because the cloud server is going to scale up
And do the work for 10 million
Taxfinders, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't matter. Look, I know I know at the end of the day
Everyone wants to flex their brains. I'm just talking from a commonality standpoint, right?
I'm stating like, you know, you could you could say and yeah
You know theoretically they they could use whatever software they wanted and so on and so forth
The government could catch up the current day software. They wanted to i've worked directly with the government, too
I know java. I know python. I know a lot of different languages
What i'm stating though is is that the government itself takes a long time to process things typically once good
I agree with you. Well, I didn't get to finish so I wrote a government grant to try to get the government to you
Yeah, yeah, they won't do it, right?
Yeah, so that's what I wanted to say
I didn't mean to interrupt you but what i'm telling you guys is like all this is true 100 all of it's true
We will get there. But right now, um, we need people to like write that software
They're not really interested because um, they're a little bit afraid of it, but they can do it and they will do it
It's just that we don't have the writers and things like that
Well, there's that and it's it goes back to the same thing
Why they stopped using iphones and they started using blackberries, right?
Even even though iphones were available for a long time
They use blackberries because it's easier to hide messages through blackberry, right?
Again, it just the government doesn't trust software at all. Like they don't
Um as much as people think that yes, they could use it
They theoretically could come up with it, but they don't trust it because everything at some point can be attacked, right?
Through outside sources. They don't want anything that they have being compromised
Everything that they have is very very very centralized and not open to the public at all when it comes to software
Look, I've worked and I and I have I have pictures of me at these different places
I work with nasa. I work with the government itself
I work with google and I can tell you google's compounds are just as just as crazy as as something you'd see at the government
To be honest with you like I worked at their data center
They have a five layer entry to get into their data center with with eye scanners, right?
It's it's pretty it's pretty nuts when you think about the companies that use the technology
But then you know, the government won't and that that's what i'm stating
Is when you look at it from the from the aspect can they do it?
Yes, will they do it probably not because there's no way to really secure those type of situations once they open themselves up to
Going out and searching blockchain. You're opening a portal to where you can be reversed on right?
This is how hackers get into different places and stuff like that, you know, that's similar to something like bridges
That's what that was the biggest issue of bridges is when you would bridge a token
A lot of bridges would get compromised
They would get compromised through the bridge contract itself being the compromising position
Um, you know, it's just different thoughts so on and so forth
But I mean bro to be fair like you tracking that on a blockchain on read mode
I I don't believe it correlates with you getting hacked back bro, like all the respect
No, no the data can be gathered
But wherever the data is being gathered that data can also be gathered by whoever's outside sourcing. That's what i'm stating
More power than to whoever is tracking the other, you know
Like I agree with you that they might not be doing it at the moment
But I just think it's a dangerous thought to put it out there
That like they can cannot do it like that, you know
Like they are just not doing it because they're lazy at this point. That's how I look at it
And they don't want to evolve in their ways, you know, they want to stay in their comfort zone for now
While the reward it's not big enough in their eyes, you know, but soon as they realize that
Bro, like they they are like a couple millis a way of setting up a team that helps them
Somewhere millies or billies. We're not we're not on opposition of that day that it won't be used someday, right?
We're more we're more or less talking the same thing. We're just stating it different ways
That's all i'm saying like it's you know government may do it someday. Okay, it may do it someday when nobody knows, right?
So that's what i'm saying like
At the end of the day people can view it however they want
That's just what it is when the government starts saying hey, we're using the ai to start sourcing taxes
Hey, guess what? You're screwed. You know, you know, what's up and typically they will never come out and just say hey today
Just go through their jobs go through their job positions. That's all you gotta do go through their job positions
DC how many how many government contracts have you worked with?
Hold on. Can I just say one thing?
The government already knows exactly like what we owe for taxes and the reason we don't get it directly
Is because like lobbying from turbo tax and companies like that. So you also have to like take into factor. There's other
Influence and money that helps like determine all of these things and so
We're like boiling it down to just like oh the government is and isn't no, it's what is like the most
Benefit and that's not just gaining our stuff
But like look at fed now like all this says digital it's all trackable
The really big other factor that's involved in all this is lobbying of existing infrastructure
Ladies and gentlemen episode two of AI metaverse on cut with your hostess with the mostest she needs best
Um, no idea about any of this stuff. Um, a lot of stuff is being said
So make sure you do your own research. I did a disclaimer in the beginning. I don't have to do it again
Um, but yeah, this is brought to you by me
Uh, I am on the job. I am clocked in I am officially the social media director for meta places
Uh, so thank you all for being here. This is such a great conversation. Let's continue it. I want to hear from
Well, jenna already said bucket i'm gonna do my take and she's already spoke
Um ben you were throwing thumbs down. I want to know why what's up?
uh, I mean like I don't I don't believe that like
Uh, it's just because of lobbying and stuff like that they they are not doing
Certain things have to do with capabilities and it's a number game, right?
And like unless whatever they were lobbying and paying was above what they would get
Like you gotta look at it from an investment perspective
Like you make this investment once the technology gets set in place and you can collect taxes for let's say
30 years, right? So unless what they are paying you
Justifies you not making that investment and collecting those taxes from data on chain yourself and stuff like that
Like it does it just doesn't add up number wise, right? Like I don't know
Please explain to me through numbers. Why it would make sense
To give up on taxes and let some lobby money come in
For you to not look at a bigger bag
Especially because you can automate it right consider that you can automate and not pay a salary
That is how taxes work though
Like I write for the grants, right?
And so i'm just gonna tell a story that and that's all I really have to say so I tried through you know
I was contracted to um help a crime lab organize their data and
The one thing the government this is crazy
One thing the government needs and in their funding is figuring out how to
Make the data in prison systems easier to look through so like somebody has a tattoo and they're criminal
There's millions of them. We need to like narrow that down. Somebody has body markings are like tattoos
You know bars mark. It's ridiculous. You can't find anything. So cases go cold
I tried to talk to them about proprietary software and they just shut the door and that was it and um
That's a small niche group of people
Um, but like I think they're using it on a on a bigger scale, of course
But like the smaller people that i'm talking to because i'm not you know
Big head of the government. They are literally just like no and and five six years ago
They were laughing at me about virtual education. So, you know, I
I don't know. I think it'll take it like six years. Just my opinion like I appreciate you sharing about that but
That that use case like the the data and whatever event you are observing
Has way less correlation in comparison to whatever you see on the blockchain
So in the blockchain if you see me sending will like a hundred bucks, there is no questioning
We don't need to do image interpreting. We don't need to do none of that bullshit
It is what it is. It's a bullion statement true or false
But when it comes to interpreting a tattoo there is a ray of options and yada yada yada
So it's just not the same. I don't think it's fair to compare
I don't know go go ahead bro. Oh, all right
So like one of the things about the irs and will actually said this earlier
I think but it's like they go after they go after the low hanging fruit
They go after the people that they know are going to be too afraid
To to try to fight or to do anything about it, right like they're bullies
They're fucking bullies and and they're not but here's the other thing too, right?
An organization like palantir exists and the government didn't ask fucking the founders of palantir to start it palantir started it
Like I don't know how many over a decade ago because they saw an opportunity
so I think what the point i'm trying to make is that
If the irs really fucking cared about getting paid they would make it easier to pay them
But it's not that easy. Like that's one of the ironic things about this is that
This is this is a very this is a very nuanced. Um subject, right son
But yeah, if the government wanted if the government really if the irs really wanted to get paid they would make it fucking easier
For me to pay them, but they don't right at the same time. There are private
This is the the I guess like the the discerning factor is that there are
There are private organizations that are being started called startups that are probably seeing this opportunity
Long before the government does and the government fucking gives out a lot of money and grants and contracts, right?
I mean, I think kayla could probably
Um support that so like I just think that the right thing to do is to just fuck and be smart about this
And and definitely don't like and i'm not saying you're saying this either will but I think that um
It could easily be interpreted
Uh in the wrong way that like the irs is never going to be able to catch up to our wallets
And and I know that that's not what you said directly, but that's that's what um, that's how I kind of interpret it
So anyways, that's all I just want to know about these villas. I don't I don't give a shit
People can do their own damn research about
What the fuck they do with their taxes and everything else?
I mean you should be able to know that as an adult anyway
But the point is I just want to know where we're at these things so I can buy them and see how dope they are
If they're dope and buying them, is there not?
Okay, that's okay. Can anybody tell me exactly what's up? Thanks for tuning in bro
Now we're having a metaverse ai conversation. Um, we kind of got off track with the taxes stuff. So let's get back on track
Well, uh, I was gonna talk about the taxes stuff
Um, I was just going to say no dcl no no no
Um, all right. We'll get into the next question
I mean we did pretty good there, uh, and and it was about regulation and and is that is the government?
Is regulators specifically are they ready for the metaverse and I think we all agree that they're not because they're not even
Currently, uh, they don't know about the tools. A lot of them don't even know how to use a meta mask
Um, but ben go ahead my friend
Uh, yeah in regards to government and the metaverse I think you will be a little bit of
What like in tech development is somewhat called like reverse innovation, right?
In which attack is developed in a country you see getting applied in another and then it's brought back, right?
For instance, let's look at drones
You could have been using drones in the euro to do a lot of shit
But in africa because they don't have a choice they accept drones to transport like, uh
You know what I mean because people are in locations that are hard to reach or for instance google developed
something that allows to scan your eyes and see the chances of you getting like a heart disease or something and
They don't accept that in the u.s and europe but they did accept that in india to kind of
Filter who is in higher risk and bring that with higher priorities to the doctor
So I think the same thing could be applied to the metaverse in which certain countries realize, okay
We actually need these so we're going to figure out how to use these two
And then the u.s is going to watch and come back to apply
I'm not comparing china to these countries because china has way more money, but china is actually doing a joint
effort between the private sector and the academic one to figure out the metaverse as an industry
And shanghai is being pretty bold about it trying to generate
50 billion dollars on revenue by 2025
So I don't think the u.s will lead a metaverse journey
What's up loud mouth great to see you uh, also worship i'm cutting out right at 10
I said one hour spent two, but the speakers were banger uh freaking banging today. Thank you so much. Everybody that tuned in loud mouth
Thank you for pulling up. What's up?
What's happening? What's cracking?
So I was excited to get in here and uh hear about a uh in a metaverse and then all of her was a bunch of tax stuff
Give me a break. I'm just saying that's all I heard but but here's the thing like my stepdad wrote the quick audit for the iris
So I think I know a little bit about that
And they don't give a crap about us because we're not a flea on their nut sack right now
We aren't even a trillion market cap all together
We got like 10 000 or 10 million wallets in metamask and over half of mine even active
They ain't looking yet, but let me remind you. This is all blockchain. So it never goes away
And that's all I'll say about that. So, uh, yeah, yeah
I think that's gonna be some pretty cool stuff. I'm excited to hear
Go ahead and then will jen make it quick because will don't cut your ass off
Yeah, just one thing. It was really fucking cool talking. I was listening earlier
But um something I was thinking about too is like what even is the metaverse? I saw some shit the other day that people
Used like bluetooth in someone's brain that had a spinal cord injury and they were able to like get him walking again
And I don't know. I think that's pretty wild. Obviously that was like government research, but like
That seems like an extension of the metaverse and I just think it's like how can we expand that definition because I think that like
Everyday miracles that can like that are gonna be like combinations of
multiple technology platforms and interactions
But yeah, anyway, that was a rabbit hole. You're the best this space is awesome. Thanks for hosting it
Ribbit. What the fuck is that? I have a couple of brc spaces order. No spaces you maxis. I love it
Me chill out. I got this hype out of nowhere because I'm fucking honest will what's up?
First I want to say thank you loud mouth. That's pretty much what I was trying to say
I guess I didn't elaborate it very well. So I appreciate you, uh breaking that down and compounded it for me
Well, that's my people I have them call you don't worry
That's what I do. It's what I do. I'm a translator. I'm a translator. Hey, and shaneer, uh profits
I'm coming to see you i'm coming back to 23rd of this month
I got a piece of my heart. Oh, i'm going to vegas on the sticks. I leave wednesday
All right. Oh vegas. I'm going to la
I'm here. I'm in vegas for this month. Yeah, you Tourette's mother
Yo, web. Hey, I ain't paying for none of it. Come on, man
I know you're a real person. I don't know if you're a real lawyer
I I love I love love love what you have to say you you have some alpha sometimes
But let's see what you're going to go ahead and say go ahead, bro
All right, you can look my linkedin's there. I'm a real lawyer. You met me a person at the at the
Oh, no, I met you a person you're a real person. I know of your real life
Oh, i'm a real lawyer. I wouldn't lie
No, but I i'm sorry for looking like i'm i'm supposed to be on the jersey shore the way I was having my hand go up
No, no, don't worry you're good
I was just you know, there was so many interesting topics
I wanted to make a comment on but you know, we gotta keep going and stay on topic
But I just really and thank you for letting me have a minute or two at the end real quick
But uh, I think the government is ready. Uh, and regulators are ready for all this stuff. You see you see
I mean they're going to be forced to and especially in the united states litigation heavy
You're going to have a lot of court cases going through a lot of lawsuits
Which is happening and those lawsuits are going to end up with decisions coming out or voters forcing regulators to pass legislation, right?
FCC just different entities
Extending potential regulation or ideas about what's going on. Yeah, maybe there's a lot of like old farts
Still in there and they're going to be retiring soon
But when that retirement happens, they're going to want to get something out there that puts their name, you know in the history books
Which I think is going to start happening soon. So I mean
We're ready the infrastructure is there. It's just people it's been in the u.s
There's too much. There's too many politics. So it's been politicized, you know, so it's like
Blockchain the metaverse it's either you know, like too political or it's the devil, you know, but that's going to change so
Very true, uh ben zico honest motherfuckers get to these points. Let's go
Yo in regards to the metaverse like uh, what kayla and jen was we're talking about
Uh are some of the most exciting?
Evolutions that I can foresee like the one about mixed reality in which like your facial expressions body language on that
Can get interpreted and represented in the metaverse
I think it would take it to a whole different level right because like right now
Even if we were in a game like environment if i'm seeing just the character, it's kind of poker face, right?
I don't know what you are feeling by looking at your character. So I think that that's a
Step in the right direction
But I think about like actually being integrated with your brain through like something like neural link that uh, Elon musk
Developing that that would make it seem like player one, right?
I don't know that sounds super crazy, but I wouldn't want to be the first ones putting that shit on my brain for sure
All right, i'll keep it real quick
So as far as like what is the metaverse the metaverse is just a more immersive version of the internet
And network devices are definitely included in in my definition of the internet
Um, I posted this thing at the top by the way because I think it's a I think it's a good analogy right now for where we're at
There's this old story of nine blind men and an elephant and each man has their hand on one part of the elephant
They're trying to describe it and I think right now we're kind of similar. It's it's like we're like we're all blind
We're all trying to define it in our own ways
Um, so that was mine, but this is i'd be doing this every friday on this subject
Yes, sir, every friday 8 p.m. Eastern. Thank you actually for asking. That's a great question zico
Uh, yeah every friday. So again, um, i've said it a few times i'm officially the social media director for meta places
And so not only do I think it's important to have this conversation
But I really took the role because I am bullish on the metaverse. Um, i've been offered many roles and jobs
over the last three years, uh specifically metaverse base and i've turned them all down because
um really because most people just think it's really simple and you can just come in with like
a little bit of money and then something happens and it's like no it's gonna last six months and then you're gonna
Not last anymore, right? And so, um, you know meeting the founder and seeing the vision and
Seeing what they have in play. There's runway. There's real ideas
Uh, and and they're up to date with stuff too, like they're real
Um, and I say with respect like real nerds like real devs. They're not like marketing people. They're not like
Oh want to be on the front scene
They know their roles they know their jobs and that's why they knew they needed to
You know hire somebody like me that was on front street and you know sharing information and educating
Um, so not by any means i'm not a metaverse expert on social media expert. Um, well, I hate that term to be honest
I'm that's what my role is. That's my strength, right? And so I put this together specifically to
Uh, not only how to highlight meta places, but also to highlight the importance of ai and metaverse because we all know it's it's here
It's coming and whether people want it or not. Um, we should learn and take advantage of it if we could
Um honest take it away my friend
What is the motherfucking deal? I got all my motherfucking people in here, man
Let me start with the motherfucking top. We got profit to this motherfucker. God, my nigga christen it
Oh meta places, I love you too, man
I'm gonna link in and do my due diligence on you loud mouth. What's going on with my g man?
And I can't believe mafia man down there crypto g man. Yo, what's up?
Chris g man my motherfucking dude, man. That's all y'all. I love y'all
If y'all in web three and y'all still calling this metaverse, you're probably slow because when we fucking take off
This ain't gonna be called metaverse
It's like fucking being on the super highway
You remember when we got on the internet and everybody was like the super highway and we fucking were like yeah
We're about to get on the super highway. Oh get the dial up on turn it on put the modem in
You know all that shit. Yeah, I understand the metaverse. I understand it's going to be another place just like a chat room
Because now this is just spaces and spaces is just an old version of a chat room
You remember when we used to get on them chat rooms and we used to have different color
For every single profile. It was a different color. He was green. I always stayed green. I was always a green character
Yeah, so what i'm saying is i'm waiting for the mass adoption. I'm waiting for it
I'm thinking it's coming within the next five years. I believe that it'll be just like twitter spaces
It'll be just like the rest of these social media where everybody's on it every single day
So they're going to find a way for anybody and everybody to be on it for the lowest price
Because at that point they can control everything that you consume every single if you're in the metaverse
There's going to be commercials in the metaverse
You know i'm saying there's going to be ways for you to purchase stuff in the metaverse
So there's going to be a I don't know if it's going to be like vr or ar
But either way it's going to be able to consume you so be careful
Stay diligent. I love you. If y'all don't know i'm prophet's boyfriend. Okay, um, um,
Unequivocal i'm just letting y'all know. Yeah, she likes me. I like her. Um, yeah, uh, bro
Yeah, mutate your eyes psycho psycho dcl take it away
You know, this was some hype the past few minutes
Love is uh, I I just wanted to like kind of say again though that
Like we are there, right?
Like this isn't kind of like an if and or or you know
Like what happens like this stuff is like like i'm in the metaverse like we're in the metaverse
Like I don't know anybody on this call. I have never met any of you
I have been on this call for like two and a half hours
Like what are we talking about, right?
When when people are like, you know, oh, you know, what if this happens in the future?
It's like we have all been talking for several hours now
And I have no idea who any of you are or if you
This is all just a facade. We're all trafficking drugs and we're just having fun right now waiting for the shipment. Oh my goodness
Uh, this is when you cue that little disclaimer. I have no idea how I got here
Uh will go ahead. Let me get to these hands. Like I told you guys except I should just cut this shit off
We're getting to the hands and i'm saying goodbye if you haven't already like comment retweet for awareness follow everybody
Especially if you got value turn on post notifications episode three will be next friday at 8 p.m. Eastern
I'm traveling a lot too. I don't know what fuck where i'm at in the world episodes will always be live on fridays
Everybody raise their hand
I had to throw my coffee out i'm riding right now and driving somewhere
I had to throw my coffee out because honest just gave me too much fucking motivation. And so therefore I need no extra caffeine
Look y'all gotta stop really you make me laugh
Everybody raise your hand right now
All right. All right. I'll I'll quit. I'll quit. Um, no, no, I i'm definitely in tune with uh,
You know with metaverse, uh ar vr all that stuff like that
I've worked with vr pretty exclusively, um through building scans and stuff like that
Or not vr. Sorry ar. Um, and it's pretty crazy, man
Like ar is like next level vr is also part of that portion too. I can tell you this
Um when you're talking like in the engineering field
Like we're already there like vr is part of our process when we're when we're doing deliverables to clients and stuff like that
Um, we bring clients in we design the buildings
We bring them into the virtual machine let them let them hook up and show them kind of how all that stuff works together
Um, and same thing with ar we we uh, we use uh ar glasses that you could take out to the field
You can basically if you have the model prior to the to the building being built
You can go out and blow that up on site and see what that would look like
Kind of where it stands and stuff like that and how it would fill out on on a field. That's completely empty
So like a lot of people don't even realize like technology is already it's already moved way ahead
You know past I would say then more than what people might think think it is
Um vr is also used for like class detection and stuff like that in fields and if pretty does you don't know what that is
Basically just making sure that different disciplines aren't hitting each other
And not penetrating through walls that they shouldn't be or different locations and stuff like that
So that's another way that um, we're using that, you know in the real world in the real world, right?
Um, so when you think about it from that perspective like
Vr to your average retailer
Like I think that's that's kind of like your next step
Usually usually you go commercial first and then you know commercial kind of pays for the development through the expensive
Tech and everything like that and software and then you know, it rolls its way down to you know
To retail and everything like that. I do. I think that facebook necessarily might they might they might you know
You never know they may have the headset of the future. I think there's quite a few out there
Um, like lyca and stuff like that that, you know, definitely could be competitors
Um, but you know when you when you think about it from that perspective like I think the metaverse is the next best thing
Man, it's just it's a matter of which metaverse and which metaverse can grasp everything in the ecosystem, right?
From from nfts to you know, what what you look like as far as your profile so on and so forth
Like that's that's really where the money shots at I would say
Housing the whole nine there's a lot out there. Definitely
So i'd be looking through a lot of projects, but i'm definitely interested in the one that we have here too meta places
So I haven't really looked a lot into that, but i'm definitely interested in looking at that, too
Yeah, for sure. Um, definitely gonna have the the founder come on spaces. Maybe next week
We kind of get into the the formal stuff because let's be honest. It's it's never fun when I feel like people
Do spaces and they don't know how to sometimes they have a fire fucking product
They just don't know how to conduct the conversation and that was actually me three years ago
I did, you know kid, you know, I built over 10 twitter accounts at this point all different
Uh for myself or or you know companies trying to help brands and it all goes back to giving value
And the reason those accounts all grew
Uh was because there was value being given right whether it's not necessarily a product
But like a good tweet or you know a good conversation like this
So, um, yeah, i'm definitely gonna get into that for sure. I just wanted to kind of warm you guys up, you know
and not more importantly too, I think um
Creating awareness and seeing where we can collaborate right just from last week's space. There was a couple of
Uh people we were able to connect with and you know
See how they can kind of add to meta places and how meta places can add to their product, right? Because there's a lot going on
Um, so that's what it's about all about collaboration and kind of growing one existence. Take it away
Well, what I have is probably a whole another episode for you
Nobody has to answer but put it on your docket for next time if you would
Um, I want to know who has heard of the metaverse standards forum and what their thoughts are on that at some point
They have their advisor is xrc
Who is the supposedly the metaverse gurus for safety and such they hosted metaverse
safety week last december
But I never hear anybody talk about them
Hmm he's clever because he knew what I was trying to do
Um, I will say though I picked up some ways to the top
Uh, it's meta places official pin post
They announced something called meta bay. Go check it out. It's a new tool. Um, just interact
I think it's a good idea to be in the know
uh, you could support it you don't have to support it you can follow it and unfollow it later as long as
Uh, you do what you really want to do. That's what's important
No, but guys, thank you so much for for coming through
Uh, really really means a lot to me episode three will be live again next week 8 p.m. Eastern
Anybody that you guys think should be here, uh dm me i'm updating the flyer all the time
I really want to highlight different people and um, just whatever you guys are building that is actually legit and real
Right. I can't stress that enough. We are on this shit every single day. We're on spaces every single day
And I think it's important to not
Only fall into echo chambers when we're fucking bored
But also highlight the really good shit and the innovative things that are happening
Uh, and more importantly the creators that are behind it aka us the humans that are behind it
Uh, so you guys have been amazing as always
Before I go i'm actually gonna ask honest honest on a scale from one to ten
Uh, how do you feel today? Honest?
I feel like fucking 22 man and uh health is wealth
So make sure to tell eat all y'all healthy vegetables and fruits man. Don't be shorting yourselves, man
Eating all that bullshit. I know you like Doritos. We know you like slushies, man, but you know that fruit is godly
There you have it. Ladies and gentlemen, have a good night