See em see em see em pretty perfect. Yeah
Do we still have okay? I was like I still hear a little bit of music
It is hard though, I like it it kind of does man, I kind of love that song
Good times are we playing another one bringing up more speakers onto the panel or are we jumping right in?
We're almost loaded up here. I think um, why don't we get started with intros?
Well today is airdrop alpha tips and tricks on all roads lead to polygon
ZM everyone we're gonna be diving into the intricacies
evolution of airdrops today and
Maybe get some alpha. There's gonna be some projects joining that
Have some unique insights on
As you guys have seen polygon airdrop season has kicked off
Over the course of the last
At least four months here, so good time. Let's jump into this today
Rock how you doing this morning?
Doing pretty good man Bitcoin
84 and a half cents. I'm feeling pretty good
Yeah, I was about to say you have to be happy on a nice
beautiful green day for Bitcoin
Yeah, and polygon been moving as well
I mean, we don't we don't know we don't talk about
Price action much on the show. There's no no financial advice, etc, etc
Yes, let's go ahead and jump into the
We usually try to get the new goal is trying to get through all the introductions before the 30-minute mark
So let's see if we can hit that today. I'm just going
Left to right like I usually do on my screen. So
Let's pass the mic to kulo
How you doing this morning and just give a let everyone know who you are what you're doing in the space take 30 seconds
All right. Hey ZM everybody. This is Adam behind the kulo accounts
You know, we're really excited to be to be back on deck with you guys here
We are a meme coin on polygon
Of course a little more than a month now looking to be the mean coin of polygon big claims
But I encourage everyone to check us out and we definitely have some insights on the airdrop side
It's really what has helped us propel us into some success. So should be a fun discussion
Good times you guys did have a successful
Airdrop so kudos to you. Let's pass the mic on over to say and Pepe. What's up, brother? Is this Jordan?
It is what's up. What's going on polygon fam ZM GM. How we doing?
This is Jordan behind saying Pepe. We are the Pepe of polygon
We're just pumped and excited for today for this discussion because we're actually preparing the spirit bra spirit bomb
Airdrop right now and we'll have more information on that today in this spaces
And if you want to get some station balls
Put I love balls and tag saying Pepe on this space right now
And we'll mint those station balls that will be a part of our NFTs campaign
But I'm gonna kick it off with a Kamehameha real quick, and then we'll get into it
Nice and that was live guys that's the kids woken up
That's recorded. I don't believe them
I can do it again. I can do it again. Do it again and put something else in it. So we know it's not recorded. Oh
Well, my life challenge, okay, okay, I believe it's I believe it's
It's real it's real I'm digging it I'm digging it, you know, it's funny
I'm rewatching Dragon Ball Z with Cindy when she cooks we watch one episode
They go could just learn the spirit bomb
But it's kind of annoying because it like totally just skipped the episode where he actually learns it
And then I looked up online. I'm like, what the hell did they did my missing something?
I kept going back like do we miss do we skip an episode and then on all over online?
It says I guess in both Dragon Ball Z and then the remake Kai and in the original manga
They skipped that part of how he learns it. It's kind of weird
Good times but a spirit bomb
Or the comic I love it man waking us all up on this nice morning
Michael we're gonna pass the mic on over to you
I think you know on this panel you're probably the only other person that can can match that the energy of the of the comic
I will not scream. Okay, I will not scream today, but I'm very
Also check this man's throat once in a while make sure he can still speak
Anyway, it was quite impressive. I
Michael I am former VP of engineering of the operator and
Recently, I have started my own algorithmic trading service, which is quite cool
I'm of course mega happy that Bitcoin and everything else is going up because
Listen I have you know when things go. Well, I want to put my own horn. I have great entries
I'm quite happy making money right now fully automatic. I'm happy about that. Why am I saying because I'm an engineer
I love to automate things. What would you expect? You know other than that?
You might I might get some insta hate today, but why not? You know, I want to be controversial
I don't farm airdrops and I want to also talk about why not and jump in with with my you know
With why not and and how that actually helps me to still make money
I know it's maybe not what you expect, but hey you need the opposite side of the core of the of the table and that's me
I'm looking forward to that a lot. Oh, by the way guys love the space with I don't know what I would do without it
On a weekly basis. So thanks for doing it and really thank you for having me again. It really kicks off Fridays, right?
I always look forward to Friday so much and I know I I look forward to them so much more since we started doing this space
Definitely definitely really starts the Friday off nice. Oh, by the way Justin
Justin guys real quick SMP 500 just broke 5,000 not that anyone here cares, but that's pretty crazy
That's you know all-time high. I care. I care
Man, that's great. By the way, take care of double tops
Hopefully not but take care also because I'd restarted my YouTube career. Haha. I have like
18,300 subscriber channels. Hey, I pinned a video up there if you wanna
Be supportive check the video out. It's great knowledge in my opinion. I didn't know you had a YouTube. I
Have a YouTube surprise. Okay
I've done this for since since Covid I started with that and it actually went quite good
But then I went to freaking that radar and I didn't have time. So now I'm coming back. Okay
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I hope it doesn't cut me off from the let's see
There we go, man. Uh, wait, man. Thank you
All right, all right, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and pass the microphone over here Michael
thanks for pinning that up above you have some great analysis and I
If you're going to produce more definitely someone to subscribe to so good times
Let's go ahead and pass the mic on over to Luke
Luke mulch some of the VP of business operations at brave and I'm on the core team of the basic attention token
Which we launched on a theory and back in 2017
but we we've grown to millions of users on on aetherium and they've taken to salon and now we have a
Multi-chain wallet that supports polygon as well and trying to get more embedded with the polygon community and bringing back over to polygon as well
So looking forward to the conversation and and kind of talked about how we can get, you know millions of people on one with three
Love brave. I won't I won't say if I use a browser for upsec reasons, but
Love it. I'll say I definitely use brave on one of my different multiple computers browsers
I think I can say that there we go and I can tell you that we don't know who you are on purpose
Love it. I can say I use it every day
App a crypto first and privacy focused browser. That's that's definitely something I can get behind
It's times. Thank you Luke for being here. Let's go ahead and pass the mic on over to Rams
Hey everybody, thanks for having me on here
I can't top this thing in Pepe intro you kidding me
Already a big fan also Kula enough said about Kula. We all know why we like that
I feel like I'm in the right space. But anyway
I'm part of the core team at ask our network product designer and educator
We are aiming to be the first, you know polygon CDK chain layer 2 out there coming soon
so we're pioneering that with the polygon team and
Freaking about occurs. Yeah freaking phenomenal working with the polygon team
But it's just just really smart and and gung-ho. So so yeah, just the layer 2 coming up launching soon as you KVM
And hoping to you know connect with the community talk about our our campaign
We all know those fun campaigns or participate for a layer 2 and the possibilities there. So yeah, thanks again
Hey you guys to be clear there. You guys will be the first ag layer
Yes, that's all right. Yeah, that's amazing looking looking good
Excited to see how that how that looks and what the functionality will be with ag layer
I think everybody's very curious about ag. You know, we should try to get a
speaking of ag layer we should put in some messages here and
And try to get someone from the polygon team to explain it a little more in-depth
Maybe maybe we could get a guest on today
Let's let's send some DMS guys and see if we get someone because I know we've you know
We've got what's public but well, I'm very curious how it'll actually
Like play out an implementation and maybe have a polygon someone from polygon explain it in a better way than we can
but yeah, very very exciting and yeah, it looks like a star will be the first to actually have it integrated and
Yeah, let's see how that goes. I mean it sounds like it'll be it'll give maybe
You explained it pretty well
I've heard you explain to a couple people you want to explain just like base level and then maybe we'll get a polygon
Talk about it. Sure. Sure. Oh, wait polygon has her hand up. Ooh
Good morning. Good morning, everyone. This is this is smoky behind the account. Yeah
Smoky what's up, brother? I
Can I can give an explanation that makes
Which I think is so I did a little thread on I
Guess I'm like why why it's important. Like how does it affect like the the average individual?
The big thing is that you know different chains are gonna going to be able to have this the shared unified liquidity
right, they're gonna be able to
Tap into this aggregation layer of all the chains that are tapped into it. And why is that important?
Right, like what does it mean for you as the individual?
Well, think about it like this, right? So so there's only so much liquidity within an ecosystem, right? And I think like
Like a good example that we can look at is is looking at the the polygon
I think we can we can look at
NFTs and then we can also you know, look at meme coins, right? Like these are two communities
Right, or there's a lot of cross pollination
This is an example of like localized liquidity. So if if you look at the
The the meme coin community, right it really kind of started to pop off recently
Right, like not not too terribly long ago. And you know, maybe I'd say about a year ago the NFT
You know ecosystem really started to kind of like, you know, do really well
Right, but there's only so much liquidity in in the polygon ecosystem for both meme coins and
NFTs, especially if people within the NFT ecosystem are interested in the meme coin ecosystem. So what's happening is
People see certain meme coins and they think to themselves. Oh, you know what I could go over here and
At you know making a little money and where are they getting liquidity from well
Certain collections went down right? So that's an example of like kind of like liquidity moving around
The chain to these different ecosystems, right?
Now now let's let's let's let's look at like an example of cross chain liquidity and and what that looks like for popular dApps
So let's say that you have
Let's say that you have like a really popular gaming dApp, right and it's just like man
You're having a great time on this chain. It's uh, you know, you're just it's you know, either you're having fun
you're making money, right and
But you you look over on this other chain and there's like a social fi application and you're like, oh man
Everybody's having a great time with it. It's just starting out
Well, you're gonna take your money out of the gaming dApp and you're gonna bring it over onto this other chain, right?
But there's like bridging. There's all these things that you have to do. It's it's not a great user
So you go over to that social fi application now
It's as far as like coming back to the the the original chain that you were on right?
like you got a bridge you got to do all this other stuff, so that's that's an example of
Like cross-chain transfer of liquidity right like individuals
So and and when when that liquidity goes from one chain from the gaming dApp that you were on
Like multiple people over to the social fi application on the other chain that benefits that entire chain
They will see other things going on on that chain whether it be defi
Meme coins that they're like, oh, hey, I like this as well
And I you know, I'm going to you know, put some money into these different things. So
The aggregation layer is that people are going to be able to
apps on any of the chains that are
connected to the aggregation layer and
They won't they won't know like that, you know, there's there's no there's no like them going out and finding a bridge
It just it just happens, right?
They're like, oh, I like this this app over on this chain and I like this one over here and I want to move
Around, you know my liquidity from one to the other right and and it's just gonna happen all all behind the scenes
So that's a really big deal
to be able to have movement of liquidity like very easily and this is like basically the
You know a huge problem, right? Because we have all this the siloed liquidity, right?
And and that's not really going to lead us to mass adoption
Because you know, it's just it's just fragmented, right?
Like like you can't really form one solid strong
Community right as it may be for like a very experienced crypto users, right?
We're like, oh, yeah, sure. We'll go bridge. We'll do all these different things
But the average person won't do that. Right? So yeah, that's that's that's my
Explanation and understanding and why it's valuable for the overall space
Can I can I double tap? Can I double tap on that really quick?
like can I double tap on that really quick with like a really really a
Good use case and in that like yeah
Yeah, so like we at brave, you know, we have a basic attention token users
Basically earn a bat while they browse the web and view brave ads, right?
And and we've had this out since like 2019
But what we're doing this year that's super exciting like in the past if you wanted to like take the bat out of the ecosystem
You had to go through a custodian, but we're bringing this all on chain now like this year
And so like one of those challenges is is exactly being what you're addressing with like this liquidity fragmentation
Right because like think about somebody like brave
We have like a multi-chain wallet where users are going to be playing with different ecosystems, right?
And users are earning through brave bat
But like having to have it so that users can take that bat and use it across different ecosystems is like
Super important to our strategy, right?
So like solutions like the one that polygon sitting on right there are gonna help to like make that process
So streamline for the user that it just feels seamless, right?
and that's kind of where things need to go because
Yeah, you like you touched on it perfectly like for experienced crypto people bridging is fine
But like for even for some experience crypto people it's super confusing
And so like for the mainstream people is definitely confusing so props to putting that out because I think that's gonna be super important
Thing to address with the broader web 3 community it's confusing. It's a hassle
There's if you what makes it worse is that if you want to do something
Maybe on two different applications. They actually both have to be on the same chain, too
for example, if you want to put liquidity into
Gamma on quick swap. Well in this case you can because gamma is on
Polygon POS and and you know some other chains that quicksops on but let's say there was another automated liquidity manager
That wasn't on the same chain
Not only would the user wouldn't even have the capability of doing it even within convenience even with hassle and and all that
Confusion they actually just can't do it. Let's say, you know X, you know
ALM you want to put liquidity on that on quick swap, but that that is not on the POS chain
That's on some other chain. You can't you can't work on two apps on two chains
but with ag layer now, I don't know if this is gonna work in the
Initial because this is the first phase of ag layer
That's what I'm really curious about
Is how far will this get us?
But eventually the goal with polygon is to be able to put liquidity on top into say, you know X look
you know liquidity manager on Y chain and
It that is putting the liquidity, you know stacked on top of quickswap on, you know POS chain
So that's composability and that'll be interesting
I guess to go off of what what Smokey was saying earlier and maybe this is like a simple analogy
But the way everything is right now is like it's like every chain
Imagine like email addresses if every chain like if you had Gmail you could only
Email people from Gmail and if you have hotmail you could only email people from hotmail
But what we figured out with email was these standards where now anyone from Gmail can email anyone from hotmail
Can email anyone from any email and that's what the ag layer is doing for for web 3. I
That's a great analogy. If you if you want to look into
Or is that Smokey speaking?
Yeah, I was just saying that that's a great analogy just based on you know
The fact that the idea for Bitcoin came from email the email system. Oh
Yeah, I love it I love everyone's
Examples here. I think it's great. Another really great example was
Jared I think it's Jared Watts right Smokey didn't he do is that is that his last name on Twitter Jared Watts?
Yeah, you do you want me to post his video up to the top? He does. Oh, that'd be awesome
I think I think like the best
Way of explaining things in simplified terms and like he does like these videos and stuff. He's amazing, man
Yeah, really really great video. I think I think I actually saw his video on your I think you posted it recently
Didn't you post his video recently?
But yeah, anyways, let's go ahead and jump right back into the little connection issues maybe
Yeah, no, I'm just I'm just trying to find the video. But yes, it was on my account
Good times good times. All right guys, let's uh, let's make sure we get everyone introduced here
And then we're gonna jump into the airdrop conversation
Mark can you go ahead and take the mic?
Yeah, I'm back. I was actually
Let's just seeing you guys doing all these, you know, smiley faces and I'm like, what's what's what's up
Is it like a Friday afternoon? Everybody's on something because it was I couldn't hear anybody but I I was a speaker
So anyway, so I got in through my personal account. Nice to meet everybody
I've been with we actually running a telco software company in web 2 and for three years now building in web 3
Love polygon. We chose polygon from the start the get-go and and you know, we're
heavily engraved into it and and working away building on it, so we have the
EMG super app. It's a telco and finance
MVNO enabled mobile merchant network operator enabled e-commerce all-in-one application. So that's that's my
Myself pitch, but nice to meet everybody good
Awesome. Well great to have you here mark and in the let's go ahead and pass the mic on over to demos
What's up guys, I'm Mike one of the core team members from demos
Damos is actually a project
Dedicated to adding a human layer to all digital interactions, especially when it comes to web 3 our core product only me
Id ensures that every participant so every one of your community members
That aren't engaged in the air dropped or any digital and event is an actual person
They're not a bot. They're not a whale trying to manipulate the situation
That way you have a much more fair and equity equitable distribution of tokens
Verifying that every person is an actual person just creates a better sense of community
It's just better faced for your project and we believe that ensuring that real community members
reap the benefits of their engagements with you is
probably one of the core most important things that you would want as a
Project founder and that's why we're here to integrate with every project built
To ensure that you know, your communities are held safe
Awesome that is a really cool solution
Yeah, so we'll have to dive into that a little bit further as well, especially in relation to air drops
As we kind of dive into this conversation, but yeah, let's go ahead
Thank you for that explanation. Great to have you here. Let's go ahead and pass the mic on over to me at school
This is Misko. So I'm a co-founder of change network
Thanks network. We help games and game studios grow
So we do that by embedding quests and rewards into their apps and into their games
we do this mainly on polygon and we partner with games like forest night dust land and
Since a few weeks also with gala games. I'm pretty proud of that one very big community
Hasn't been announced yet, but it's live. So there are thousands of people joining our quest there
super excited about that one
And we also help communities with air drops using points, right? So points is the new way to distribute
Those which is interesting new development. I've been around since 2013. So even before
Ethereum on using blockchain tech, so I see my fair share of
Of air drops, but these these these points are something new
We did one with for mural, which is also on polygon which dropped one billion of their pain tokens using a point campaign
So yeah, there's a lot of stuff happening
and if you visit the thanks protocol a bit of self-promotion here the pin tweet at the top will let you earn a
Yeah, just just as a nice gift for this show
Yeah, and looking forward to the conversation guys and girls. So yeah, let's do it
Miss go so you guys develop do you help develop these point systems?
Yeah, head over to our website so it's thx network we pronounce it as a spank
But you can have embedded points in your app
Absolutely, so you earn points by completing quests and you can spend those points on on chain rewards
But also for instance in your e-commerce store or maybe on off-chain stuff
Can you DM me at your DMS aren't open?
So doge chain is actually building a point system now for its transition
So yeah, maybe maybe our team should link up with your team and and see if there's anything interesting there
Yeah, if I could just jump in if that's okay
so if if you you want to do is some airdrop campaign and you have a tiered point system and then now
Based on the points automatically the users would get the certain allocation of the of the tokens
More or less, yes, so there are there are levels we we tend to tie it to discord roles as well
Because you know these point campaigns they take a while you want to entertain your community while while they are happening
There are a couple of options. You probably want to sibble check some stuff as well
So you we have things like get coin passport integrated to do that stuff
So there is a lot of options
And but you yeah, you know, you can make it as fancy as you want, but you the most basic
Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, we have a similar sort of thing where we're out there for you that certain amount of rewards
It's get dropped within within the ecosystem of the super app
And then we also have this 5% earn on every transaction
So if you use the EMG coin on a transaction you get that's it
But anyway, it's it's it's I think it's it's got a great use case this
You know set up and we you know, we probably could get
Eventually even some institutions using that, you know for their for their customers and and their users subscribers very interesting
Yeah, I love the evolution of
Airdrops, I definitely want to dive into this further. I think both of you will have a
Lot to share with us in one of the questions we have coming
Actually, I want to introduce one more person so we can jump right into those questions already
You could take 30 seconds
Yeah. Hello everyone. Thanks for having me. I'm co-founder at Nomis
We built a unified reputation layer for a tree like multi-chain reputation scoring
So yeah, the the basic use case might be to use score for wallet rating
like ranking users or building indexer like
Like page rank of Google in the early stage also like targeting and personalized
UX in depth like any any depth can utilize Nomis score to build some some
Personalization based on users like real on-chain history and on-chain reputation like social ratings and so on
So any any depth or project can build something on top of an on the scoring system
They can like build own reputation system as well and also kudos to polygon
We we built our multi-chain score on polygon. We also built a scoring system for
Polygon zkvm and also we I guess we were on the e-share node for polygon ID so users can
Generate as a key proof of their like scoring not disclosing the domain address and their identity
So yeah, thanks for having me. Happy to be here
It's great to have you here, I guess it's we are now
Fully introduced. It's time to jump right into the questions rock. Do you have anything to say before we jump right in?
Yes, actually, uh, we're getting a bunch of comments there's a lot of I like balls comments
I guess they're trying to get into that that giveaway
Continue to leave comments if you have anything to say any questions for the panel throughout the show
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Anything that the panelists say that you like give it a heart or a thumbs up if you don't like it
Give it a thumbs down. Don't be afraid to
Yeah, thanks. Thanks Darren over on the quicksaw panel
But yeah, we like an active audience and we'll read these comments throughout the show
Someone put here I'll read a couple real quick just to get it going maze runner
Put a an AI generated image that says when you're moving too fast and it's a cop giving a dragon a speeding ticket
Let's see. Oody highs says
47k we got a bunch of I love balls and satara
cryptic Rick with a pretty cool
go purple haired Goku Pepe
Man, a lot of I love balls. I'm not gonna read all these
I love balls. That was a great job. Let's get it
Another person says here GM folks
Guys with the I love balls Jesus Christ we get it
They've been waiting for you to say this since last week because this giveaway
we were actually supposed to shout it out last week and then the conversation just
Kept going and I forgot to start sorry Jordan
But but uh, yeah, I think everyone's been waiting for you to say that there's actually some people that try to like sneak it in
craftily so that you would say it in a certain way
How you just read like a teleprompter sometimes when you go into the comments
So yeah, and if you guys don't know what what rocks are bring to there's a there's a giveaway from saying Pepe
And you just have to comment. I like I love balls in the comment portion of this
Space and you'll you'll be eligible
believe is the yeah, it's so saying Pepe actually
Posted the the giveaway up above. So this is not a sponsored show just to let you guys know it's
However, we love it when teams from across the polygon ecosystem do giveaways for the the audience
But let's go ahead and jump into this then
So I want to start with the the fundamentals here and kind of get your guys's opinion on
I guess like the basics of air drops why they're necessary or what's the point really?
And then we can kind of probably dive into some other things like the evolution and implementation things like that
Just joined us for the first time today
The way it works is you just jump in whenever you like, you don't have to raise your hand
We love, you know fast-flowing
Dynamic conversation. So if you if you have an opinion jump in we like different opinions. We love it all
So let's go ahead and keep this off
the question is what are the primary benefits of utilizing air drops as a
Means of distributing tokens or coins within the crypto space compared to other methods
And by other methods you mean like or it's I don't know whose questions like of what's swapping or or
What what is it meant by other methods?
So it could be like pools or you know, I've always rewards. I guess just anything you could think of
I guess what's the you know, what's that?
What's the driver for air drops or what are the unique things about that tokens?
Yeah, there's a million ways. I
Think the basic idea is to get it in hands of real users, right? So not only investors speculators
but in people who actually like your product your protocol and so so together like a
Wide distribution that's that's at least the goal
Yeah, I mean what I meant by something like if you have rewards if you have a point system and you could actually get those somehow
definitely, it's it's I think for a use case and for utility within I could just see that it with the sector where we're in
You know giving you know, it's it's very messy. They have always millions of subscribers and you know
They they want to give loyalty rewards. They want to give points they would and do
eventually when knock on wood this
Adoption of blockchain within telcos will happen soon
We're working hard on that. It's not there yet
But when it does and they do do adopt, you know and do have digital tokens for their subscribers at all and have
NFTs for identity, you know, it's it's gonna be amazing but
The the technology of the airdrop. I think it's it will work perfectly
But what do we need to have find is like if there is you know
This customer care kind of thing like somebody is the airdrop
But so there's some mistake or you know what I mean something that screw-ups and and and stuff like that
Unfortunately scammers and that kind of stuff. How do you how do you get an institution to to utilize that?
that airdrop feature for their subscribers or whatever and then have those other tools or mechanisms there to
Help, you know, that's that's exactly where we would step in, you know utilizing a first-person
Authentication tool like only me ID allows big businesses
The comfort of knowing that the people on the other end of the airdrop are actual people and the people who are supposed to be
Getting it, you know, obviously we can we can set up multiple
rules based on how and what those users
Are qualified by but in reality at the end of the day
You want to give the airdrop to the most loyal of your community in most cases if it's a game scenario and you want equal
Distribution so that multiple people have opportunities to play the game same idea
you don't want a whale to come in and swoop half of the
allocation or bots come in and
Manipulate, you know the NFT drop if the NFT is what grants access to the to the game itself, right?
So there's all different reasons to ensure that human first is always first and that's why we're you know
So gung-ho on making sure that projects understand why it's so important because to your point if you're going to drop
Hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars across the internet
You want to be sure that the value is going to the correct people?
And that's in all cases not in some cases
100% especially and especially if it's paying subscribers or customers of this, you know telco institution
That's you know, that's it's quite serious that they they cannot have those kind of screw-ups, you know or some kind of
Stuff there. So yeah, and you guys provide that just so you guys provide the
We integrate with projects both, you know on the front end to ensure that you know
There is a human verification basically like think of it as a wall in between the the protocol and the you know, the actual
Engagement to ensure the person who is engaging is the right person
Well, it's an on-chain mechanism that once you've you're verified you've gone through you've mentioned your only me ID
it's created a hash of your
human characteristics and then you know as you go and engage with other dApps if depending on if the dApp has
In integrated with us we're able to go back and call to ensure that you are a human you are the right person and
Then allow you to kind of move forward. There's a lot more technical things that go into it
Obviously and we can get a little bit deeper into that, but that's on a high level
Is that is it a KYC product? So we are no KYC product. Obviously that that can become
Part of the scenario, but in web 3, obviously we want to make sure that it's human. We're not really obvious
Depending on what the project needs and I don't want to over speak
But depending on what the project needs we can facilitate just about anything in the in the inner room
What we want to do is to ensure that it is a human not a bot or multiple
People having the same or multiple wallets by the same person
But again, just depends on what the project needs are and then we can kind of guys do what's your hands?
You're talking through the polygon
Thing. What's the what's your handle? You could yeah be great to have a chat off
Personally my might be personally. I'm at no bullshit
So I'll be DM me. Yeah, that's great
Absolutely. Yeah, you guys bring up a solid issue amongst like the airdrop
Kind of campaigns because like we we can point to
the Jup airdrop recently, I think there was
Reported someone had a bunch of wallets and kind of game system and you kind of hear this in in many cases
Where there you know where there's air drops, so I I wonder though, you know, if we're starting to see this evolution of
Trying to create some kind of identity or point system or
Some type of mechanism to to help
Stop this does does it become a barrier to entry or does it?
Or is there a way around that with your guys system where it makes it easy or
You know, does it does it kind of a cancel certain geographical areas?
You know is it is there an easy way to really do it to where it doesn't affect the the success of the campaign
Jordan from San Pepe. Yes. Oh awesome. Okay. I was just making sure that I wasn't being rugs
so so we you know, we've gone through all kinds of different concepts and iterations of what we're gonna do for this airdrop of
You know of our spirit bomb
And and how that reinforces the value of San Pepe, you know
How we can make it one of the most massive events here on polygon
within the next coming weeks and
We created these different tiers of
percentages the different activities that you'll have to do to be able to you know
get this particular airdrop and then this airdrop as well like we
We've seen that one of the big problems is that when you do get airdrop the token or airdrop
You know something in particular, you know
you have one or two one of two choices a lot of the time and that's
You speculate that the value might go up or you just you know
Sell it on the on the market and then move on right?
And so what we've done with this is we create dynamic gamification. So with the spirit bomb
token you will immediately be able to use it in in game in gamification and
Utility, you know being able to accrue more value
And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give all the details because it's really exciting what we've been putting together over the last few months
We've actually been designing this particular campaign that we're about to launch
For the last four months. So for the last four months, we've been putting this putting this together and then kind of you know
Changing and pivoting according to what we see is going to be best for for the market
But if you want to get started early
Campaign and our zeely platform. You can find it on our link tree on
you know on our on our Twitter right on our X account and
You know so that that's kind of the way that we're approaching it so that we know that
The users that are are getting these airdrops are going to be people that are
And even if there are some that get in that are kind of gaming the system or maybe botting the system
They'll get a very very small percentage of that airdrop because of the way that we set up the tier system
Yeah, I agree what's being said here, you know, it's super important to make a good solid design and in general
I think people are over designing a bit on user acquisition and
Retention right so getting people in is one thing but how do they you know stay involved keep using the protocol?
That's actually where the value is being created and some of the stuff you can do
And what has been done by others as well is to make sure that some of the tokens you drop for instance are vesting
We've seen the protocols use that
For example are doing at thanks Network
tokens, so we use balancer
CE system for this and instead of using very liquid
Drop the staked version of the thanks token. So, you know
Not saying that this is the end solution to everything but it's an interesting experiment
And I think it might need to you know more stickiness of of the people receiving those airdrops
But I'll report back how it goes
Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna say really quick on that stance as well
You know if we're looking at like overall retention and especially building a brand, you know as a meme
Which we are here at KULO token
We saw that with the initial airdrop that we did of less than 1% of total supply
Little little less than a month ago
40,000 unique addresses that we really took the time to curate
Ensuring that these are you know, very active folks who own quick token who owns some other
you know tokens that we had in that mix as far as kind of targeting and
by effectively, you know kind of dusting these wallets and
Pairing it with other marketing in a stacked fashion. What we found with KULO is just from a marketing perspective
You can build a lot of buzz because if you're able to trend
You know consistently if you're able to get your communication out there an effective way if you're able to create some excitement and some
FOMO, which is really what drives a lot of memes what drives a lot of you know adoption in general
People start to wonder, you know, what are these tokens that either I got for free or I had to qualify for in some way
you know, what are these and I just wanted to say that that is definitely something that has led to our
You know what we would say quite a bit of success here on polygon and what has really made it a firm
You know decision to say like it makes sense to build here because there's a strong foundation of people
who do look at their wallet who are active who are looking for something new and
it's also part of the reason by the way that there's a little bit off off the path here, but
In our goal here at KULO of bringing mass adoption to polygon
We actually had a project that we just teamed up with wink
Who's a social five project?
They actually switched their their launch strategy from a B&B launched to now coming to polygon
Because they saw oh, there is a captive audience there. There is some excitement there
We want to be part of it, too
So I just want to say from from an airdrop perspective it does definitely help accelerate marketing
And I just wanted to give my two cents there when it comes to marketing
Nice go you brought you brought up an interesting point with the user acquisition user retention
And that's our network. We we sort of turned this on its head the whole concept of airdrop
It's not we saw what was happening in the space. We saw you know swap as well do their thing
So we we approached it slightly different. We created something called lock drop right and we put the oneness on a user
We told the user look lock up some ETH
And this contract you could do it for 30 days 100 days or a thousand days
Based on you know which option you choose you get a certain multiplier
And that's you know when we release our token you're gonna get our app start token
And you'll get back your your entire ETH that you use locked up
So we took the lock lock drop to airdrop approach and what happened here was very interesting
Back in 2019 2020 we it was up to seven figures
Sorry almost eight figures of people locking up their ETH
In order for you know waiting for this this I start token for
Drop that would come when we launched our layer one
We saw this become the community now you have users based on their level of interest and how many days they they put it in there
They wanted to become part of the the community they want to see what was up
They want to see what's what's happening on Astor what projects are coming
They would do their own sort of biz dev work as well right like hey, you should check out Astor
Sort of that all in preparation for for their airdrop for the token
And they had the one thing they did have to lose was a you know cost opportunity, right?
They had that ETH locked up for a while, so there was a it was some speculation there as well
And some faith if you if you know your history back in 2019 2020 the prices of ETH till the prices of now
It was a good decision for many
I just wanted to share that little bit of insight on the approaches of how airdrops can happen and how you can actually flip the tables
To so the user is the one that whether they're real or not, right?
They're the one putting up the the capital or the risk right there and believing with you know minimal risk in total
Well, we thought at the time so they're sharing that a little bit. I
Think that's really interesting
again going back to the the I'm always looking at because I'm coming from web to a
Customer these are customers like T-Mobile or to telefonica
he you know the biggest biggest ones out there and we you know, we're delivering the software services to them and
Always looking at it from that perspective because you know I've been in the space three years
A lot of these maybe I'm going a little side, but you know, the projects are are amazing
the the ideas are fab and
When there's a bear market, you know, we're you know
The people are just you know, swimming in the fishbowl and sort of eating the leftovers at the bottom
Unfortunately to say it that way and and in order to change that and get mass adoption
I think there's got to be a bit of you know
thinking and and having these these kind of discussions and saying
What what can these airdrops actually be used for it in you know, not somebody that's actually not in the you know
Crypto world or how could this be adopted and I think there's huge huge opportunities for this again the technology
particularly with with our app the
In essence where if they accumulate rewards the users for doing, you know
Registering or for adding a friend or calling a friend or because we have the chat feature there then they get a after
300 accumulated points then they get they could actually I guess they it's like an airdrop they get it
so it's a continuous airdrop of the tokens if they ascertain a certain amount of
rewards and the last part of my comment is
Just thinking about the marketing part, you know, imagine
Imagine we hope that this will be adopted and then everybody will have digital wallets
and and we'll have the blockchains and the institutions will be on board right and and
imagine the marketing part of you know, like if you're if you're able to
Airdrop it like, you know different tokens to to millions and millions of people out there and it's like an incredible
Way to reach, you know and and there's could be huge opportunities for that about the airdrops
Eventually, if you've got you know mass adoption and you can you could do airdrops
Not just in the web 3 right and then get people on board that could be fabulous. So
Can I I want to I want to switch it up just a bit here?
Luke we're I'll throw this although this question to you. I
Think we've heard, you know, many different types of implementations of how to
Better do an airdrop or your streamline it or somehow
Fix it in a way where you're you're getting the airdrop to the most loyal people but my question is
In doing all these things, how do you keep it?
From being a barrier and how do you position your marketing to make it?
Exciting, you know so that that people want to participate
And and I think this is an important question
I think people in the audience will really be interested because it also is the answer to how they
Can find these airdrops, you know how they can
More easily notice that they're available or the hints or whatever. So I'd like to get you guys's opinion here
Yeah, I can I can jump on this one
I think it kind of dubs hails to you like it won't first off
It's awesome to hear Mark's like point of view on this I'm coming from a telco side because like them
We've also been dealing with a lot of like, you know traditional like web to
Businesses on the advertising side with this and with our reward model
It's like you've got advertisers that want to make sure that they're not getting gamed by people just you know
Looking at ads and getting rewards and and kind of soiling their ad spend with that or whatever
But I think like on the point you raised around
You know ways to make it easier or seamless
I think one thing we've been looking at in our community that community has been around since like 2017 and we've seen
Been able to distribute our token to like, you know
On-chain like over the half a million people and then through our system like over 10 million, right?
So like we're thinking that like we're kind of challenging a lot of folks
in this airdrop space to think about like ways to bring communities together because like if you can have like
People that are established in one community then link up with an airdrop from another community. It's it's not as like rigid or is like
formalized as some of these like other solutions that have been discussed here, but it's also a way to like kind of combine forces and like and
Join marketing together because I think when I look at the landscape of things like more broadly
Google is basically getting rid of third-party cookies in Chrome this year
And that's gonna like really kill a lot of audience segmentation and things like that for marketing
But what I see with meme coins and NFTs and with you know, airdrops and crypto in general
It's kind of going to become a new way to kind of audience segment for marketing and for broader adoption
And like with what we're doing, I mean like having every brave user
There's you know, 67 million of us monthly having self-custody with multi-chain
Like these are ways we can kind of shoehorn in broader audiences
but these questions that you guys are talking about around like
provability around like humans versus bots and kind of some of these like
Civil-attack types of like defenses and things like that are super important, right? Because nobody on the
traditional business side of things is gonna want to like
Just do something to get a splash and ink over like I think this retention piece is like super important because if you're building
Products to scale you have to have retention you have to build something that people are gonna come back to you
but I think with this airdrop bit like
Their strength and community and each of these networks have like really strong communities within them
And so I think that you know, maybe maybe it's like what one idea we're kicking around
Especially as we bring bat across other chains is like look if you're a bat holder
Maybe there's some special perk with an airdrop you can get or we have NFTs that you meant with bat, right?
Like maybe there's NFT holders can get some better dropper
It becomes kind of like a reputation rating without being a reputation rating
Just the fact that you're building up your position in these communities and it's kind of a riff
But we're trying to really think of like
What are ways that we can work with the culture?
to help like make things that work with better retention overall because
We've seen this happen like come and go over the years where you know splashing the pan
We've even done swap steaks and stuff ourselves to like try and and bootstrap like, you know engagement
But what you really want is that long-term retention? So, you know, I'll shut up now, but I hope that helps
Before you check out are you you're from brave then right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Okay, okay, we we started talking and they were very interested you guys actually copied our our name super app business
Got close to opera browser. We're launching in Nigeria with with them and on their browser in essence and
This and but yeah, it'd be great to talk to you as well because exactly what you're saying this
retention of the of the users customers, you know, it's so important and
The technology is there for this with the even at the air drops. It's amazing how you can leverage that
So yeah, we should that we should talk one day for sure. DMS are open man. Let's talk
Thanks, man. Another bridge created on all roads lead to polygon. I love it
Let's see. Also, we have Sarah here. So welcome guys. I see your hand up
You guys are new to the show. You don't have to raise your hand. Just jump in wherever you wherever you can
but let's go ahead and pass a mic to you just because
You're new to the panel if you could take like 20 seconds to introduce yourself and then I'm sure you wanted to add something
Sure. Yeah, my name is John from Deimos
Our main just kind of was creating some issues here and put on the on the space
So we just switched over to my personal
Hope you can hear me. All right, but I just wanted to chime in real quick
Regarding kind of you know, what the topic was
I think it's really important to look at kind of the 2024 meta right now for points programs and leadership leaderboard programs
I think that's a really good signal looking for
regulatory compliant or kind of under the table
Platforms to be incentivizing for future drops. So I think that that's definitely something that for me personally
I do a lot of airdrop kind of acquisition for like a better term
Looking for new stuff and what's possibly out there for me. I think that you know anything out there right now
That's running points programs or you know leaderboard programs. Those are generally things that are right for the picking
I think it helps a lot with kind of the user acquisition as well as kind of ongoing giving value
you know, a lot of times more recently we've been having conversations with NFT projects and other projects on
Kind of getting our biometric solution, you know 10 seconds one time mints a soulbound token
Along with a points or leaderboard program and now you get that initial value
You have that build a value from having only one per person in existence as well as the ongoing value in
Gamification behind leaderboard programs and you know ongoing points for doing all different things in the ecosystem
To truly reward those who have kind of the most existence within a platform. So
Just something I think I'd throw out there
Really think that that's or I know that that's one of the big matters for 2024
And I'm really excited to see kind of what everyone brings to the table for those points and leaderboards programs
Love it, sir. If you could also just take 30 seconds to introduce yourself here
Sure. Sure. First of all, thank you for inviting me
I'm Sarah from that predator and was super nice seeing Michael here. I'm just gonna say a big hi to Michael
I know right now he just he's not between the speakers, but actually was super nice seeing in here
And I'm the blockchain analyst here
they do have an opinion myself and I
Have to come with a scheme kind of opinion that Michael had
Trying to be the devil devil advocate. Yeah, because like yeah, okay
Airdrop sounds super fun. It's super cool. It helps getting user to this piece
But I'm thinking of like what kind of users and I'm only talking about blockchain gaming here
and I'm just gonna take blockchain gaming into
Into consideration because right now the new narrative is play to airdrop
And in my point of view is that back in 2021 there was play to earn narrative
Everyone was so excited. We saw
We saw a lot of people coming in a lot of users just you know to make quick money and then you know
2023 came and all ran out all the gaming studios are tracks are trying to attract web to users
But I think they forgot and this is what the new narrative play to our drop is aim for is aim for the deejans
Right because if we look at the people that do this airdrops are the deejans people that have been into the space for
Quite some time people that know blockchain and people that probably have been for play to earn as well
How sustainable the token economics of this tokens will be if we just you know, okay
There's like points and everything
But again, there's a lot of new projects new games that just make play to airdrop to get users
But maybe they have been you know into the the web tree industry for like just one month or two months
And this is just a hype in my point of view
I mean, this is something that probably will last for a few months the way it did
We played words and then you know, probably gonna have a fallout
I'm not trying to be pessimistic or anything
But this is how web 3 is right and we've been into the industry for the past years is that it's a cycle
it's a roller coaster and again how healthy this is if
You try to seek users into an industry just for making money in my point of view
This is not adoption that we want. I always say that for example
That we here at that pretty or we are the web dev store and we want to onboard the next billion of people
and we all have such great project because I've been listening to the space and like how he was going to onboard that and how
The plea to our narrative it's gonna help that it is
I don't know. That's my two cents
Yeah, and it's a good point if I could jump in there like it's a it's a you're actually making a good point
But one thing I would I would push back on is just because people are in the space for for a month
And they come from web 2 I think we should be looking at it as welcoming, you know
And not have this idea that everybody's just what every web 2 is just there to make the money and run
No, it's it's it's actually we should we should make it more welcoming for them
I'll tell you my experience, you know, it's it's not easy and and you you know, you you you learn the hard way
Financially as well you get burned
but that's something on the side, but definitely if
We shouldn't just focus on on the users of web 3 that are very comfortable been there for years and years
We should really try to think well if I'm coming in there, do I even know what you know?
What what chains are and how you know all that stuff and how do I I get this airdrop?
It's wonderful, but how to actually use it, you know that that kind of a concept
But yeah, anyway good point that you made certain. Yeah
Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, exactly
this is what I'm thinking and I always have this idea in mind is like when both like everyone who works on the web 3 project and
Boarding people my target in my mind is like how can I import my mom, right? Or like how can I?
Yeah, exactly. My mom and with the airdrops is like, you know, like hey just free money
But you have to do this. It's like people are oh my god, this is shady
This is something this is a Ponzi scheme or like a MLM or stuff like that
This is why like I think it's not entirely beneficial
And I think in the future the whole narrative in to that media outlet is gonna be like this
Like, you know you make a lot of money and because you receive that money in tokens
Then maybe the tokens in that time will be, you know, we have a high price
But maybe the project will you know
You know that the ballerina will come and then the bear market will come and then the whole narrative
For a new sir that doesn't know what blockchain is everything was gonna be like even, you know, not good
I just want to comment on this real quick just just based on like, you know some things that I've seen
Like I think like speculation is very powerful for industries, right? Like, you know blockchains are not like the first
Industry to attract a large user base based on speculation, right? Like I mean we saw this
I mean there's examples, you know
Like in new emerging technologies where there's this this massive speculative event, right? And and we saw that
I mean if we're getting like real real way back like railroads telephones internet
Right, like and let's just use like the internet as an example
Like in the early days, you know
People were just throwing money at some of these
These companies right because everybody's like wow
Like there's like all of this hope of this new industry and there's you know
All of this money that was going to be made but like it was too early for the technology, right?
Like the foundation the infrastructure had not been laid out, right?
But that massive speculative event was enough to be able to you know have
Really powerful infrastructure builders come in and stay and and and build out the framework, you know for like, you know
What that industry could really be right and and back then, you know after after like the calm boom
Like everybody's like man that internet it's it's it's not going anywhere. Look at it. It's over
You know, so I think like attracting people
You know based on speculation is very powerful and and and is is kind of like the norm when it comes to to you
that the tech industry so
You know and I think that's what's happened with you know
The the blockchain industry is that you know, we've we've had you know, some of these massive, you know speculative events and then
You know people have stayed and continued building out the tech
But I mean I think that there are
Definitely some some major issues like you know with with being able to onboard the normal individual, right? Like we don't have
The overall infrastructure right like you know, everybody's got to worry about scams and all these different things
It's like, you know, we don't we don't we don't really worry about that when we use the internet, right?
It's like why you know, it's not like I'm like, oh, I'm protecting myself from all these viruses
It's like no, I have antivirus software, right?
I mean there is some level of education that you need to have to be able to protect yourself
But I think yeah, I mean we still do have some like major issues
To really onboard kind of some of the normies. That's exactly
I mean if I jump in again to the point exactly and now speaking of parents or of my
He's you know using the super app and he's like, well, how do I how do I actually you know?
so I send him some you would you coin to his wallet there and but what do I do like how do I buy it or
You know, I mean so it's a having having just that that that on ramping
I'm making it simple and for these going back to air drops, you know
if they could just be able to swap it or just see it as a
You know a fiat kind of value or digital whatever, you know, I mean and and have that
onboarding I think all of those
the the negative things like the FTX is and
NFTs that were you know, very
In my industry in the telcos if you said anything about NFTs or crypto
Just look at I mean, I was speaking to the polygon guys and they said look at the Starbucks launch
Did they actually mention the name of the for the loyalty or did they actually mention an NFT in the in all of that campaign?
it was all digital assets, right, so
It's it's really hard then to to maneuver
If you know if you can even if it's a negatively perceived
So just getting out there and making making it simple for people to use
onboarding, you know and all that stuff and not making it difficult and and not having this sort of I have a feeling that a
Lot of projects because they have this, you know
Ability to to to to do you know
they have a lot of time spent basically and then have a great knowledge of the you know, the whole blockchain and
Not being able to think out of the box to like well if that's great
But it's just so much how much you know, we can use and within this
Web 3 community getting the on onboarding the the average, you know person
Who doesn't really care if it's I have to say it if it's polygon or if it's what blockchain it is
They just want to get that airdrop that service or that, you know, so so that's that's what I'm looking at
just from my perspective, maybe I went a little bit on the side here, but
It really would love to see more of you know
People coming into the space and having making it feel like they don't need to know all the shit
You know, they don't need to be like a layer to layer what they shouldn't have to know all that stuff
And if we you know, that's I think that's gonna be the the the best or the next
Big thing is to really making that seamless journey and then making it feel for the people so they don't really see that
They're using blockchain, you know, that's that's what I I think
It's also depends how you position the airdrop like I can see that some some projects can position a drop like
Like a free trial sort of let me explain this
Like if you look at traditional like web to market how new products acquire users in the early stage
They usually offer some some some credits or like free trial for new users
Like you do this or that you leave your like data your email address. Maybe you invite some friends
So you do some work for us and we grant you with some like free one month trial
Or we give you some credits that you can spend on on the pro account like pro plan
And if you look at like the blockchain like any like average blockchain the network that domain product or new blockchain is sending money
like user a sends money to user B in any country like with
Close to zero fees if it's like some L2 so we can look at air drop like a free
Creators for transactions like you you get some some tokens to to get your free transactions
And it might be positioned in a way like to acquire new users to help them to start using this network to like sending money
For free for example, like for like first ten or hundred transaction
So it really depends how projects position airdrops if you position airdrop like as a free money giveaway
So you acquire this type of users, but you can position it like as a free trial
And maybe it will more healthy for for the community. I don't know just an idea
Yeah, I completely agree already. I think that's a great approach and also like coming back to what Sarah said
And what I see projects successfully doing is not trying to do like one big bang like do or die airdrop
And you know get like millions of people involved. No, let's you know do do seasons, right?
So games usually do seasons where they do mints of NFT
People who mint those NFTs either they are for free or maybe they have to pay a small reasonable amount
Those people get dropped the tokens which gets them involved players, and maybe they will invite some friends
So try to make it organic and then if you do seasons
You can actually analyze the data of how your airdrop performs, right?
This is very normal in all kinds of digital marketing marketing and has been done for decades now, right?
So why are we trying to do it differently with with over engineering super complicated drops?
And then having just one go to get it, right?
No, no, let's make it easier for yourself and you know
Repeat iterate and then you'll get much better results
And also, you know coming back to people who are like looking for a good airdrops or looking for interesting projects to join
Maybe you should be looking at those early mints, right?
They usually are for free or for a small amount. We try to find things that interest you
it will help you to stick around get that early mint and
Probably you might be rewarded down the road. So so yeah, that would be my tip for for the airdrop hunters
And to closing this up a bit. I need to go to dinner actually
So I want to thank you everybody for this great conversation. I thank you for having me
The wife and kid are getting upset that I haven't enjoyed yet. So I know European time. So it's the end of the day
Can't get an airdrop meal I
Would love to I love you know, it's Friday, so, you know, I have to have some quality time as well. So
Yeah, everybody enjoy designing and catching some airdrops and hope to talk to you soon. Bye. Bye
I'm not sure if anyone wants it. Yeah, go ahead sir. It's just like, you know
I don't know who said this but you're white because I'm still thinking about the whole conversation we had
And yeah, of course web to companies or whatever companies that is not web 3d
They have used this to center by user in my mind
I have a revolute if someone is in Europe and probably they heard about
Revolute they had this whole campaign if you bring one friend you're gonna make like 30 40 euros
Whatever and that was good money and I do remember back in my uni times
Everyone was making money, you know, just adding their friends on on the Revolut. And yeah, that was kind of like a
Like a airdrop thing, right?
But I think what is lacking is the industry right now like the web 3 industry. It doesn't have the confidence
That other industry had in the past and I think this is where the catch is and this is what makes us different in this
Marketing. Yeah skills that's different because if we talk about web to companies, especially they are web to you
It doesn't even matter the sector even like gambling one. They are still more safe and trust
I mean they have more trust than we web 3 have because
Right now when people heard about web 3 and this is like someone said about Starbucks lunch
Yeah, they never mentioned crypto
they never mentioned NFTs and this is what read it did as well because like once people hear about like normal people normal user hear about I
Don't know crypto. You need a crypto wallet. You need I don't know whatever they think it's a scam
And I think this is why like this play to art like
Airdrop thing for quite a few projects that for example have been in to the net the past three queer markets
They are still building. They are super good project technology the team. It's amazing what they do
It's amazing that they reward the community because you know, everyone is so high on gamification
Everybody that's so into I don't know social depths or anything and you know, your time is pressure
It's precious and you want to make some some out of it, right?
But again, not everyone have to use this not every project and this is what we are seeing right now
Even when I look into eggs is like, okay, this project is gonna prepare an airdrop this project
I've never heard of is gonna prepare our drop this one as well
And again, the whole picture payment of the web 3 industry
It's it's gonna be again is are here just for the money are here just for the speculation and most of the user will be
So again, we are so new and we don't have the trust and the confidence from the normal users and that's an issue
And this is why I think right now this whole narrative might become an issue in the future and I hope I'm wrong
Want to add to that though one thing that's really
One point you made which is really I was the one actually talking about the Starbucks and a lot
One point you made is like that the industry like the web to you know
Is is thinking of the web 3 or you know people coming in that's a there's this narrative and there's everything scam. I
Think to change that I'm looking at it really like, you know 15 years of being in
You know enterprise web 2 and then coming for 3 years
internally like our communities
You know, do we actually download our apps?
I mean this one thing I learned like everybody's likes actually scared to even download my app big or
Friend, you know, there's these huge projects as well
Nobody actually downloads the apps because they're worried that it's it's gonna be some us, you know
the virus or something so what I'm trying to make the point is like I think the web 3 community itself is
Is almost, you know shooting themselves in the foot by being like that and not trusting anybody
downloading other projects apps not you don't I mean and and that's perceived as
That's a negative factor because then when I someone like me comes to space and I have to every day say
Yes, I have a registered company. Yes. We're legit. Yes
we did it and you know, I mean it and there has to be that sort of that that
moments that when when things just just become normal and and I think it's coming from
Internally from the web 3 a little bit change change that perception and and you know download the bloody app
So what you get a something bad with your phone? It doesn't have to be even web 3 you can get that's kind of scams
Just looking at that that people are even worried to download other products apps when they've got 1 million downloads or even
50,000 that for me is weird, you know that for me is bad
That's sort of a that should be changed in my opinion and to get that sort of a different
You know mentality within and then that will be coming, you know come forward to to to the rest of the you know
communities outside of web 3
The problem is the framing that the market I would agree that right now like the average person like I have
Some but not not but we say good friends and
Probably like most of them think that crypto is some sort of like shady
Activity or sort of like weird business and we can reference it to like internet maybe 15 years ago
I'm in my late 20s, but I can remember like 15 years ago when I was back in high school
Earning money on the internet
It was like people usually thought that you doing some some shady shady business or doing some weird stuff
But right now we can see that like the majority of people work in remote or making money on the internet
And it's it's completely cool. And I think we will get there eventually in I can easily imagine in in 10 or 15 years
Sending money via some blockchain to like other person to other country or using swap tools to change money
Using like this infrastructure for internet money will be for everyone like for any any person
Real quick guys like I think one solution that
and maybe this is already out there, but you know, I'm hearing there might be a bit of
hesitation for for some users to
Just experiment we may need to have some type of like
verification layer just for apps or projects where maybe like an ecosystem comes out and kind of
verifies go through some of the code goes talks to the team and has like a specific kind of a
Portal for for these type of applications or or
Solutions so that people feel more comfortable
clicking onto them, you know, like even even the
Need of the app stores like a lot of these app stores in like web to have some sort of
Security kind of thing where they go through code a bit try to verify some some certain things
The application so that might need to be created and and also guys I'm thinking you know, I'm hearing a lot of
The the idea of you know speculation and things like that and I'm wondering in your guys opinion
How can projects tailor the airdrops to attract long-term users and foster healthy ecosystems?
What like what are the the top two or three ways?
That you see that are working today or that you think will work the best in the future
Using users reputation on chain reputation for distributing a drop based on
users real activity and contribution to the network or maybe to like their previous contribution to other network networks
For example, like theorem or maybe something like og protocols
While just in like while you were saying that one sentence my brain started going 20 places with what that could be
Like a kind of mesh reputation of you know
Other real people like with good scores, you know
Give you a thumbs up like, you know or click a box that says I know this is I think this is a real person
Or whatever it could be they can involve, you know
How much activity you've done how old your and seasoned your account is?
I mean, that's what they do with like mortgages and things they want to see seasoned funds, right?
So if your account is seasoned if it's if it's interacted with lots of applications if it has certain
NFTs if it's been you know, maybe like through polygon ID you could have
That might be the way you could tie all that together. It's like through something like polygon ID you have
Some verification. I mean, I don't know why we don't just have
How cool would it be if if like?
I guess people don't want to link to the government
I guess that might not work, but I'm thinking if you could have a KYC platform
Maybe just a private KYC platform that says yes
This is a real person and then gives you a token that says hey, this is a real person
It doesn't say and that tokens non-transferable. It doesn't say who that person is
Doesn't say anything about that person just says look we've verified that this is a real person
Coinbase or something could do this if you're already verified on coinbase
That's that's actually you know, you get into you get into some problems with privacy there. That's exactly what we do
Except of KYC like we we don't do KYC, but it's not necessarily like need a thing
You can do you can say a lot of like persons a person reputation based only on just on chain activity
You don't necessarily need the KYC process and we do it with
with calculating your like multi-chain score based on your your holdings your networks your
Contribution to other networks before your overall activity and there there are like a lot of parameters. We use more than 40 parameters
in evaluating the score I
Think the the perfect a mashup. I'm a big namis user myself
You know attestation on chain a verification of various credentialing. I love what namis is doing click other similar
People in that industry. I think combining that with something like what we have which is exactly what was just described by metric verification
One-time soulbound token non transferable, you know, and you can just ERC 20 balance of greater than zero on front end or back end
Directly on contract however, you want to utilize that could be gated in pretty much anyway with a single line of code
Those two things right there. I think solve this whole problem
You know what a user obviously in their timeline. I have a 3,000 day old wallet
I think that is important, you know things I've done in the past that get some sort of score, which I love these new scoring systems
Combine that with okay proof that this is individual human
Those two things alone should greatly propel the space forward. I
You could even have like you could make the the account solve
Like some captchas like you could just have them come to a site
The site make does of like some kind of human verification software solve some captchas move your mouse around like a real person
And then and maybe even answer some stupid questions
In the longer you make it the harder it is to bought it out to sibyl attack it
But and then that then that platform who's a trusted kind of platform that does this for this is what they do
Like you guys know mr. Whatever any of these they give you a token saying hey
Like from what we can see here. They did a caption stuff. It's you know, it's some human had to have interacted here
Even if that human might have 10 accounts
We don't know that but it'll be a lot harder for them to just make millions of accounts
What about having like a shared list like in the in again?
I go back to telcos run from there's there's a fraud. There's a blacklist
There's a fraud list that telcos actually share amongst each other of certain customers that have defrauded them, right?
I'm sure Amazon has that in the end there. It's it is there a way
Yeah, I guess it'd be difficult though
If it's if you're not here if it's like a just a wallet ID and you want to you want it
You know, I mean so I have like a list that it could be shared amongst just be available through blockchain and you could
Which ones are have been doing fraudulent stuff in the past if that's possible
That's very widely utilized on a lot of drops
I mean, you know, I would point to the optimism drop, you know, you lost like 84 billion from I'm sorry
That was the wrong number from
You know symbols more than more so than anything else. They utilize all these things
already with black listing and
Gray listing in general, you know, you have some that are open source as well as some that are more closed source through
Specific providers but that's pretty widely used gray listing
So from my understanding so blacklisting would be like, okay a user performs, you know
Operations funding terrorism or something like that, you know hits the the blacklist for
They don't pay they they stole, you know, they got a
Operator they didn't get it back or they they did a duplicate counts and and so on so it doesn't have to be like
A terrorism thing. It doesn't have to be like it. Just like that. Yeah. Yeah
There is parts of it that exists I think that what the criteria for that is isn't really well defined for what we're looking for
Obviously, it's great to not be airdropping to people that supported terrorism or money laundered or whatever else at the same time
I think we're looking for something much more than that, you know
The good actors versus bad actors what defines that and you know
What makes that like a viable list?
I think there needs to be reassessed and looked at because it's not necessarily, you know, that's not enough what currently exists out in the wild
Can I give like a super like real quick guys? Yeah real quick quick shout out to
Sugar Kingdom here. They joined us
today on the panel, so I just want to take one second to just say hey, and I know we're deep into conversation, but
You know, it's just good to shout them out and jump in guys
Moby media you've been here before, you know, you don't have to raise your hand just jump in the conversation
But whoever was speaking go ahead and yeah, I was gonna say like, you know
kind of to give a super boomer take as someone who's been in this space for like eight years now and
Is praying for the technology is actually like finally starting to catch up with what people, you know
Imagined it to do like I think like it's also important to zoom out
Like if we're not like making products that broader audiences want and are easy for them to use
Like we're just gonna keep repeating the same cycles over and over again
And I think part of what's like important for changing the perception of people outside of this space is that?
Bringing products that they actually want to use right like and I think it's like it's like a super old-school way of looking at it
Because it's just like breaks down to like retention and actually like putting in the time to study what users want all that stuff
But like it one of the frustrating things I saw like just the past year and a half of like, okay
We're getting into like L2s are springing up like
Transaction fees are going down stuffs looking like it's getting more usable
It's just like there's not a lot of people looking at like the usability of these things which is
It's kind of frustrating because it's like, okay
We're just gonna repeat another airdrop cycle with more like, you know
Dex is another familiar actors of different, you know badges and stuff like, you know
Like like I think that's kind of addressing like the broader point that was brought up earlier
I don't remember who brought up but like of you know
If we want like there there's product work that has to happen
Right, like wait the potential here is huge and I think that like we've tried to do is make it easy
Like from a web browsing perspective, right like for people to get exposure to crypto
I think there's gonna be like 15 other cases of that right like where and I don't think it's hard
I think it's tough because like
Companies have huge treasuries like now like projects have big treasuries to do stuff with but seeing them keeping you know
Doing the same old thing over and over again. It's like, okay
You're gonna get some speculation and some people that are jumping into these airdrops
But like can we start to build out like towards that broader audience?
I think that's a real challenge that folks have to face like right now
But but it's gonna take some time, of course anyway, like
Brave is brave is a great example of that you guys are doing a great job. Sorry for interrupting whoever was just gonna speak
I just got to give it another shout out to brave
But I just really like what you guys are doing and if people don't use brave if you're using like
Chrome, I mean why not use brave? It's it is privacy focused
It's not gonna serve you a bunch of ads and it's it's it's a it's a vote with your not wallet
But just a vote with your your usage you're being here
You're using something vote for something that is a crypto native in crypto for dude
I've been using brave since 2018 and there was a point where I date they weren't on look
We've had Luke on a couple times
There was a point where they weren't on par with
Chrome I felt like Chrome just worked better
But now I can't tell the difference and on top of that
I don't have to download an ad blocker or ghostry or anything
It just it just works it blocks and and what I've noticed more recently with Chrome is because I use Chrome
I use multiple browsers, but with Chrome
YouTube has started to detect the ad blocker some sites have started to detect ad blockers whereas with brave
It's just a smooth and I'm not even trying to show brave. I really I genuinely believe this is the best browser out there
They have an integrated wallet, which is really cool. I mean, I don't want to chill too hard Luke, but
You guys have been selling me and I've been sort of get getting into bed with opera because they're they're very much in in
African markets where we're focusing and but but you know
So you're getting you're turning me to the other side and I love that
Do you just a quick question to to is it Luke from brave? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if we're far if there's a you know
Web 3 apps and which like we have I was always wanted to like think that you know to provide
access direct access to our users to to a browser that would be
Basically, you know every time they would download the app. It would be automatically already set up for them
Is that something you guys work with or do with other projects or applications? I mean, I think we can like
Probably like follow up offline to kind of dig into that specific use keys a little bit more
but but I think like, you know what we're trying to from our point of view like
Web 3 is just part of the broader web, right?
And if we're doing our job
Like web 3 just ships with the broader web browser, right?
And so like I think there's a lot of work we're trying to do there
But but yeah, like, you know, happy to talk offline about yeah, looking forward to that conversation. Thanks
Can does that like is that compatible with ledger or is that compatible with any?
Yeah, you can pick a hard to ledger treasure into it. You connect it through it
How functional is that wallet is it is functional is like a metamask. I mean we aim for parity with like phantom and metamask
I mean that sometimes there's rough edges from time to time
But like we we try to fast fix anything there and I'm on Twitter
Like the whole team is so if anybody runs into bugs
We either have a feedback button where people can submit them or or just tag me on Twitter. I can help
Surface that up, but it's like a big thing where we rely on user feedback a lot for these types of things
But one thing we found was interesting is that with wallets people tend to not like to give user feedback in the same way because it's
Around financial transaction. So we built that feedback feature in there, but always love feedback good bad or ugly. So please do
You know what you guys can do to differentiate yourself what one idea is
Supporting what like what uh, what networks? Yeah
No, that's that's that's very timely because we're we just add we're adding we have Bitcoin in our
Our devs are integrating Bitcoin in and Zcash in but with Bitcoin. We also get ordinals as part of that
Right now any EBM supported and then we have l1 support for Solana and for file coin
And yeah, like we're we're trying to catch as many of the big ones as we can
I think Bitcoin will be a good differentiator
But I think also like the other big differentiator here is that you know over 90% of browser users make ecommerce purchases
And so they save some form of credit card or other payment method in the browser
So one thing we're looking at doing is like bringing all the payment methods together
whether it's crypto or credit debit cards or whatever into one unified wallet because it part of the
Issue with adoption of crypto is that it's kind of off in its own land and like if we can bring them all together
Into a wallet. That's truly what it is
Right if you think about like a Google wallet or whatever my flight itinerary can get saved in there
It's kind of a vault for all my stuff. And so if we can bring
Traditional payment methods together with crypto then it kind of demystifies it but also makes it adjacent and people that are curious might start
To use it like in and pull it in. So these are all things that are like we have a unique position
You know browsers sync your data across devices like browsers are kind of the metaverse to the internet
I think and so we're looking at it
we're in a bit of a different category because of
We have to make a product that your grandma has to use or your neighbor or you know the D gen, right?
So we move a little bit differently than everybody else. But but it makes us look at things more
Tactically as like what are the real functional things that we can do with web3 and we have like a talk platform
It's like zoom where like we've added NFT gating so you can be an admin
You can token gate calls and things like that
And so we're trying to do things like that or sign in with aetherium or other things where it's starting to apply the NFT
Technology and other web 3 technologies in a more practical kind of like web usable way
Can you send crypto wall and call while you're doing a video chat through your app
Working on on that to where you can like, you know
Do like in stream tipping and while you're chatting and peer-to-peer sends and things like that
That's a bit of a sale. So we're the first chat after you super up that has that feature
So you don't have to actually add add a wallet or you know integrate anything
You could be on video call and send receive. We're right to all directly. Yeah
So as a third-party feedback as someone that's been using the brave wallet for several years now
Or I guess a couple whenever it was 2022
Most dApps actually just recognize it as metamask
So it only only more recently some dApps have added the brave wallet option
But other dApps will just recognize it as metamask more recently some apps have have dApps have kind of I don't know
Sunset or something. I don't know what's what's been going on. For example
A stargate I used to be able to just click metamask on stargate and now it doesn't it makes you download the metamask wallet
So I'm not sure what's going on there
But otherwise and I'll also second what Luke said I've dm'd him on my personal account
Multiple times with questions and he's quick to respond and connects me with the right people on his team
I don't know browser where I can do that. Yeah. Yeah
Well, and I think like that wallet connection one's an interesting kind of discovery we found too
So like we try to get into the wallet adapter libraries the popular ones, right?
Like but everybody integrates this stuff a little bit differently
So we started a program like a wallet partner program where dApps could partner with us and we'd actually like help them
Promote that they've added brave as a wallet option before that it was like you'd have to click on it
So like the ideal path is that it just works if it's your default wallet like without you having to do anything
But like these other options are like stuff we've had to iterate on
With dApps because it's it's kind of like the implementations are kind of all over the place, but appreciate the commerce. Thank you
Hey guys, I'd like to I think a lot of people have also joined us for
You know, maybe some tips and tricks on airdrops. So I'm not sure if any of you here are
Exactly. I know some of you guys are building really cool solutions to you know, get the airdrops to
community members, but do any of you guys have
Tips and tricks like for for me. I'll just I'll just kick it off and and just to say I think everyone here
Loves brave it. I can tell there's it's it's kind of turning into a brave love fest, which which is awesome
No, no, no, no, sorry. It's needed. Like I I love it
Aztec actually tried to get us he got us first time using brave
I know because he's the one that has been trying to get our exec team at lunar digital assets
That our incubation firm he's been uh pushing and we've had a I think a couple calls on you're talking about the privacy
Calls solution that they also have
So it feels just like google meets but it has like a privacy
Rapper on it. That's not a type of the probably the best technical way to explain it
But but it's a really cool solution. I don't remember why we
We don't use it regularly because we've been meaning to uh for our executive calls, but uh, well, let's get more into that
I forget why we stopped. We weren't using it regularly. We were just too used to google meet
Yeah, we bounce around a lot there's google meet and then uh
The other one though, what's it called?
The the privacy. Why am I going to blank?
Signal signal. Thank you. Yeah
But here guys on who we're having calls with yeah
A shout out to alien studio here
uh, but yeah, what what are your guys's uh
Kind of tips and tricks here for for me. I i've always just been a bit of a staker kind of long term
That that has gotten me many airdrops through, you know, like polygon cosmos, but uh, what what do you guys kind of do?
I really think uh like certain platforms or uh channels like one crypto feed on telegram a couple other to kind of know the
Latest and greatest what's coming out what just hit the market so you can kind of check out what they're doing
um all the questing platforms, uh layer three
Asan over at layer three is great shout out
But uh layer three quest three, uh, basically all the questing platforms
I think are great a lot of them give exposure to a lot of things that you might not be doing otherwise
Kind of lets you know what's new and uh kind of upcoming out there a lot of airdrops
I've gotten have been connected to that
I definitely second your staking narrative a lot of stuff on cosm lasm and other
Uh primarily non-evm things I I do pretty well with uh staking and miraculously things appear or uh, you know become available
So that's always good. Um, I feel like uh finding a good spot, which I i'll air quote good for uh
You know kind of the airdrop info. Um, there's a guy on twitter frog dot eth
That's kind of my guy. I use uh, you know to
Aggregate all the the current airdrop meta in one place for me so that I don't have to go searching all damn day. Um
But yeah, I think it's could you could you all let's pin that did you post a thread from him up above?
Yeah, sure. I got you there. Yeah, I got you. Thanks. Yeah, he has a group and everything else
It's actually to be fair, uh, a colleague friend of mine
Great dude, um, and I feel like you know, you see a lot of them
Uh, I would say one thing or an addendum to that you and I don't want to name who they are
but there's a couple of people in the airdrop space that are really heavy on like ref links and
Specifics, you know services to spin up nodes stuff like that. Um, I would just be wary of them in some cases because
Uh, you know i've seen kind of behind closed doors what they say
The content and these threads and what their actual objective is it may not be to expose you to things as much as it is to
Make uh ref money through other programs not through the airdrops himself if that makes sense
So that's one thing to kind of be mindful of but yeah, i'll definitely post something from frog and uh, you know
Feel free to check them out
Pull the disclosure here for the past like two months besides building damos working at block. Uh, I have non-stop been grinding airdrops because uh
Like I said between points leaderboard programs and uh kind of the quest narrative of 2024
Um got a lot of exposure so far and have done very very well
Uh also too I would check out farcaster if you're not on there already meant everything you can
Pulled like for ethan two weeks off of there. So uh, would definitely definitely recommend that is that is that done though?
I like this. I heard so i'm on forecaster, but I just barely started and I hear a bunch of people saying hey
I made all this on the yeah, so this is what I would say. Uh, I was on there really early. So like d gen far
Frame some of the other tokens that were available for early users. Uh, you know the larger drops of the part one of those drops
Are over but you know, um d gen has a current one
Uh frame is redropped. Uh, there was a dog drop yesterday
They're mostly all like meanie type coins. Um, they're some utilitarian things for sure. Uh, the nfts as well
So, I mean the big ones for me was like the og frame nft. Um, og farcaster nft
And uh, you know a couple other things that are are very very high price tag items, but uh, no, it's not done
To be honest, I think it's really at this point because it's blown up so much the mau has gone up. Uh, you know
Dramatically over the past two weeks primarily. Um, I would say that
Uh, if I if I was anyone here that was looking to get involved, you know warp caster download it. Um, have a tab open
Use the the app version by uh, what is it? Can you zoom out a bit here? What is farcast farcaster is here about it
Often I have no idea what it is. Okay, so far caster is uh twitter on steroids, but it's completely built on blockchain
So, uh, it's completely decentralized. There's no central front end for it. Um multiple third-party products pull it out
So for instance for a warp caster as I stated, uh or supercast, uh, those are a couple of the the front ends for it
Um, you know permissionless open source, uh, they've got these new things called frames where you know
It's picture you're on twitter. Uh, you want to mint an nft. You just click the mint button right there. Um, this is connected
Through a abstraction wallet using econ abstraction. So I mean there's multiple layers to this
It's really a lot to explain in one sentence, but I would or you know in one setting I would say check it out
It's really simple to set up. Um, if you use a phone number to authenticate it's completely free. Otherwise, it's five bucks a year
Base is really big behind this right now. Jesse Pollock and the guys at base have really been
Pushing a lot behind the farcaster narrative in the super chain narrative
Um, which I mean, you know, uh for what it's worth. I see a lot of viability there
It's a really cool platform a lot of alpha there. Uh, the initial people on it initial like what four or five thousand
We're all extremely high quality individuals from you know, og's in the space and it's kept a lot of that feel
I'm sure as it scales up it might get a little bit different
But for right now I would say that's my number one source for kind of airdrop stuff as well
It's just the potential to just um go to the the frames tab
And I just literally scroll down and hit mint on every single thing and it cost me nothing because they're all free mints
So directly to my wallet in seconds
So, uh, there has been a lot of issues recently with it kind of being relatively slower
Um because of the massive influx of users they've been doing server upgrades and just software hardware upgrades nearly daily
But uh, definitely something to be checking out if anyone wants to invite just feel free to DM me
What chain is it on uh, it's it's it's built on their own
Uh on their own network, but um, I believe that they have uh other infrastructure on others
Don't quote me on that. So I I know that farcaster og, uh, like the platform itself is on proprietary
Um, but I I know that they are now getting support from others. Um, there's a crap ton of tools out there
Like I said, if you want any info or I can give you the full picture of kind of all the all the resources
It's over 120 now that plug-in, um as well as an invite feel free to DM me. I'm happy to give you one
Good time, so we we definitely got some alpha here from me brother. Uh, you know you you're posting
The what I I don't see it in the uh jubitron above yet, but uh, there's there's uh the guy you're gonna post above
And then also uh farcaster
various like men's freements or or um
Different air drops. Sure. And thanks for that. Um, I would just say this and I promise it's my last
Um, you know once again, we have we have a campaign right now at game. Oh, we have some uh kind of
Perspective things I can't say off the record that uh are going on behind the scenes that might have something to do with this topic
Um, you know, there's a reason why we have that points program and everything else
So, uh, if you're looking for that our campaign right now, it's real simple. Go grab an only me id
It's polygon.damos.global or you can get a ref link from um postment. Damos.postment.xyz
It is pinned at the top. So, uh, feel free to check that out and maybe expose yourself to some other stuff
Very cool, very cool. Thank you. Yeah, and and uh, that's that's what I want to hear
This is the type of alpha
If we could share if a couple other people have maybe some different tips and tricks that they used or they want to
Maybe there's some people you guys follow
Um that we could pin up above anything like that
I think their you know audience really wants to you know, maybe learn more or find the tips and tricks before you do
I just wanted to say I need to check out because i'm in europe actually with my canadian accent i'm in france. So i'm uh
it's it's it's past uh dinnertime almost miller time and I
Have an agent so lovely to meet everybody big shout out to darren at quick swap for
being a really uh, you know a fantastic uh reference for me and helping uh the journey through the web 3
Please download our app. It's not uh, not anything uh malicious or bad. It's just a
Really cool app. It's emg super app on google and apple
And uh, hope to be here some other time. Love it. Love you guys. Thanks
Great to have you join us mark
Anybody who has like good airdrop, you know kol's or you know
hunters whatever people that actually you
Like people that if you're in the audience actually post them in the comments and we'll get those on the jumbotron. Uh, maybe
Uh someone maybe darren or someone could kind of screen them. So we're not getting like people showing bolt bs
Yeah, if anybody has some airdrop like guides or whatever where they've actually made money from yeah, let us know
So I guess i'm on the opposite end here
I am kind of newer to kind of doing this airdrop and releasing a token
Uh, we've got our at corgi studio
We've got our marketplace reward token and currencies that we're going to be launching here march 1st
And i'm just kind of curious from the panel. I'm just kind of any tips recommendations
From you guys, um, you know being that it's an nft marketplace being that it's also going to be a reward token
Um, what do you guys kind of recommend as far as you know, the airdrops as far as like the different demographics or projects or you
Know just kind of going about uh with kind of uh spreading or dusting around with this airdrop
Hey, it's right. Did I get crickets on this one?
Yeah, I yeah, I just want to introduce you. Uh, this is writer from uh
corgi studios, but yeah, so so basically you you're having um
You're you're thinking about, you know how to do some type of airdrop or something for you on the opposite end this time
You know i've experienced the airdrops from multiple different, uh, you know different tokens, you know the kulo
You know, they went about it pretty good
Um, you know and a few other different airdrops with the whole quick and manta
And yeah, i'm just kind of on the opposite end kind of going about actually launching the token and spreading that awareness
Yeah, my my my thoughts here are kind of humbled at this kind of moment just because I haven't had the experience as far as
And having to kind of cradle this and in sorts of kind of like a baby in a way
Um, and you know really trying to carefully kind of target
Um on how to go about actually
Uh spreading the awareness and kind of just choosing the airdropping
So just kind of like wondering what you guys are kind of think what you guys would kind of think obviously, like I said
so I I think there's there's probably a bunch of different ways and and
earlier today on the panel there was
various different solutions that you know are creating
Uh ways to kind of like hone in and make sure that you're dropping to you know
uh for your for your product or your debt, but um
one thing that i've seen and then i'm not like a uh,
I wouldn't I wouldn't classify myself as an expert on on airdrops. I'm not like, uh, I i'm kind of more
Becoming more of a hunter for fun
Back in the day you would just stake like in the if I was in the cosmos or in a polygon
You know if you're just staking matic
or some uh random token and and you'd get like various airdrops, but I see that the dynamic's definitely
Is the success that some of the polygon projects have had where they look for
Uh, so I I guess i'd like to point to to gone recently that they had a great airdrop
Nft polygon nft projects and some of these nft projects were cross chain and and they did a lot of cross collaboration before the drop
To make sure that there was a lot of hype that was also paired with the
the release of the you know, the announcement
That that got a lot of success. Um
Um quick swap has kicked off airdrop season on polygon as well and uh, the the latest criteria
Uh for the manta drop was staking as well and also participating in governance was which also kind of seems to be
Uh something that's popular across the entire
but uh, I I like these methods, um, I think there's there's also
Anyone in the audience or if you write or want to listen to the very beginning of the
Of this show because like there was there was a lot of different teams that uh
Have other solutions that could help kind of like pinpoint
The the airdrop. So there's some ideas there as well
Hey everyone, uh, this is tom from sugar again. Well, first of all, thanks for having me here
You know respected people in the space
Um, you know to to answer um crypto writer's question. We're actually I don't want to shield too much about our project
Uh, because we we were invited here, but uh, we're undergoing, uh an airdrop as well ourselves
we're going to be doing a tg event, uh in march launching on multiple launch paths as well and
um, you know the way that we designed this airdrop is basically
uh, you know, we partnered up with more than 80 projects so far and
A select few of them are going to be
Receiving airdrops so their holders will be receiving our tokens airdrop as a part of uh of incentives
And I think it's all about that. It's all about incentives
And uh incentivized in the right people that will actually stick in the long term if that's what you want
um, and the second way we found that we could incentivize the right people was
By letting people play our game. So we're going to be
Launching a beta test of our game where this is a bit of an alpha
But people are going to be able to farm, uh for the airdrop
And just play around in the alpha. So that's you know, that's uh, I guess my take on the on the airdrop alpha
Yeah, no, I mean i've got a lot of good feedback there
Just kind of listening to kind of what you guys are saying as far as the partnering and definitely just kind of targeting
uh those kind of around who
Are kind of want to kind of hold it a little bit more or maybe even get into it more
I guess just my take on it was kind of looking at it from
like do I want to go heavier on necessarily like the nft side and on like the currency side or more on the
You know focusing on like kind of like the deejin side of it
And catering more towards those who are more concerned about the token
And not necessarily about utilizing the actual token as a currency on the platform in itself
Um, it's kind of just where my mind just kind of bolts through
I mean, I heard a lot with the different games as far as like the quests and stuff like that
And definitely a lot to kind of take in
Um, you know, especially just kind of looking at the different resources and tools
Um around it. So yeah much appreciated
There's other like kind of low-hanging fruit too
I did made a killing doing this like uh in the previous run-up to the bull cycle like the last one where like
using aggregators that plug into like different DEXs and like um, what i'm seeing now a lot is like
Different nft projects where they stake the nfts or not
penguins got a bunch and like mad lads etc like
And even our we have an nft line like a bad nfts
Bad animape on or whatever, but like we're trying to kind of offer airdrop perx or holders
Like I think the end there's so many nft projects where you've got really strong communities. So like I think
Getting involved with a lot of those that are starting to airdrops might be like
Worthwhile or even if you're hearing like about some of them doing it and they'll tease it out a little bit
But that's another area that that's pretty cool. But back in the aggregator days. It was rad
I used to use like uh insta dap and they were plugged in with like one inch and a bunch of other
Aggregators and they all started doing drops and you didn't realize you were using it
But then you just realized you could claim it. So it was kind of cool
Like aggregator plays are always good for that stuff
Nice not sure if anyone else wants to pitch in throw, uh
Various different tips and tricks for
Farming airdrops. I do have one for quick swap. Let's just say that a project kind of wanted to or you know
A token wanted to you know utilize or you know do an airdrop with your the d quick holders
Um, because that's what i'm understanding of who you guys
Want to kind of reward is those who are staking and doing the governance votes and stuff like that
How would how would a project go about?
Um doing an airdrop, um like that
We we will we will help you guys, uh, so
Uh, okay to start first talk to producer darren
uh, he's behind the quick swap handle here and uh, he can help uh help you figure that out and uh,
We i'm guessing may even be able to like lend some uh
Either dev resources or like because we've already done this, you know, give you a fork of whatever we're
However, we're doing it or at least advice on how to do it
Uh, and then we could give you some big shout outs here as well
So we we love anyone who's going to reward the the quick community
We appreciate that and you could use different parameters, you know
You could use you could do it to the quick stakers in the dragons layer. You can do it to
Uh quick stakers who have a certain amount of quick certain certain size wallets you could do it to lpeers
There's a lot of them. Um in just uh, our
Pair we have over a quarter million, uh 200 over 250,000
Um lpeers, so I guess if you were to give it to all of them, um, you know that if you gave, uh
You know a hundred thousand dollars, it would be like
You know 20 cents each or something so that might not be ideal. But what you can do is narrow down, you know, uh, maybe
people who are providing liquidity to usdc eth with a balance of over x or
People who have done, you know
At least three trades per month on quick swap or people who you know visit quick swap regular
Whatever do certain actions, but yeah, we can we can help with that and we highly encourage
Yeah, I mean the quick swap community is the most og community on polygon
It was the first, uh dap to a million in tbl. It was the first, uh dap to uh,
It was the second dap to a billion in tbl. Uh abe passed us on that one, uh, which which we love them
uh, and then we were the first dap to a billion in volume also and uh
Then recently we actually had almost as much volume on quick swap as all other decks is including uniswap
Uh on polygon combined so it is the people's the people's decks, uh, and the team took like almost nothing
Um, like i've never taken anything from the foundation. I've never sold a single token
I only got like a quarter of a percent as a founder anyways, uh, and i've never sold any of those
Uh, so we really try to just give everything to the community
So if you guys want to give stuff to the community, we will help you in any way we can
Thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, we love quick swap for sure
I mean, this is this is kind of something that we put into our community or our ecosystem
My tenorary is definitely supporting you guys because you guys are just absolutely awesome with these all routes lead to polygon and quick swap
And yeah much appreciate would definitely love to reward
um, you know, uh quick swap users
Um, yeah because I myself i'm I I I use I use quick swap all the time and i'm a holder of quick and staking
Yeah, I mean the quick swap community i'm sure would support you greatly, um
Me as a co-founder. I don't really have
Any like power over quick swap because it's been given all to the community
but you know, I can use my my uh, I guess influence and
My my pretty smile to try to get the community to support in any way is possible and yeah
We can lend some developer help or whatever
We we really appreciate it and we'll we'll try to really push the community to if you do do an airdrop to quick
And there are some other communities doing this, uh recently
Um, but if you do do that, we'll we'll do our best to give big support. Uh, what was the most recent one darren? It was um
No, uh, yeah manta too. But sunday sunday just uh, I dropped a whole bunch of quick holders
Yeah, and so what do they do? I think uh
They have a tax and they give part of that tax to like, uh, is it quick holders or quick traders or what is it?
Yeah, uh, they I think they've got a six percent buy and sell tax
Um, three percent of that goes to market like quick and then just gives it to everyone else that's holding the token
That's awesome. Oh, oh, so it's people who hold their token get quick. Yeah. Yeah. So basically yeah
That's enough to sort of like huddle the token. I think
Nice very cool. Yeah, I mean
With all these things, you know not to be a little shill here, but uh, why would you use?
You know another dex if uh quick swap will actually try to work with your your community and and we really pride ourselves on
Trying to help any communities, uh, get you know deeper into polygon
That's why we started this show was to connect to people and help projects, you know
Get a spotlight that you know may otherwise not get you know seen
So we've had I don't know how many projects on this show over the last year
We're almost at one full year every week 48 episodes almost 52. Uh, we should do something special for that
I'm sure we're already you guys are producer Darren and everyone's already thinking about that
But uh, yeah, we've uh, we've been doing these every week and we've had hundreds of projects
uh, maybe maybe I wouldn't be surprised if it's a
A thousand plus speakers, but I definitely hundreds of projects and speakers on
So we we definitely dropped a lot of alpha here guys, uh, I know, um j green dropped a ton of alpha
i'm going to post uh the the
the uh alpha air drop threader guy
in just a second when I get some time up above in the jumbotron and um
Yeah, so we got quick swap and it looks like also cori studios going to do some drops and and i've seen um
A lot of other projects around the polygon ecosystem starting to kind of jump into this airdrop season. So
I'm really excited about this. I before we kind of like jump into the conversation further though
I want to introduce some new speakers on the panel. So we have se with us. We have
Seth mind your biz here. What's up, brother? And uh, we also have
Uh, yeah, how about we introduce you guys?
We we also didn't get to introduce sugar kingdom odyssey
If everyone wants to take like just 20 seconds and then we'll jump right back into the airdrop conversation
Um, maybe start with seth
Hey guys. Thanks so much for having me on the stage. I appreciate the space. Of course, right all roads lead to polygon
You know i'm a true believer. Uh throw up those purple hearts anybody on stage if you agree, right?
Obviously you you uh, you have some agreement here that all roads do lead to polygon
Uh, if I go ahead and handle mine your biz I run the the channel and website mine your biz
But I also run a small advisory boutique called blocks media group
And uh, and so I just I always always uh, you know, can we see tickled pink tickled purple? It sounds weird
It's a little edgy. Whatever. Okay, so I want to tickle purple when uh, when the team invites me back onto the all roads
Because just a lot of love for the the advisory work and great marketing work that they do across across all those clients
So huge inspiration and a great source of collaboration. And yeah, and just and just awesome encouragement, right?
I think that it's it's true that for the quick swap and polygon and and sort of lunar digital assets team, right?
There's an ethos of uplifting
And empowering and helping to grow right being being very supportive. So
So it's a pleasure to be able to join in and give back the community and and just yeah
And meet new people and and try to find those those early projects that just need that help and that encouragement to grow
Great to have you set as always. Hey guys, just want to let everyone know I know we got a lot of requests
And we're trying to get everyone up before uh, the show ends in 45 minutes
If we don't get to people, I know sometimes we get messages like yeah, so-and-so is like, you know
And you know, they've been waiting and you know, we're sorry
We we really try our best to get everyone up, but there are you know, we get a lot of requests for the show
So, uh, we're doing our best guys
Don't don't be upset with us if it takes a little bit of time to get you up. We you know, it's hard
We don't want to just like rug people. Uh
And uh, we want to try to give everyone a fair fair amount of time on the show
Hey guys, i'm happy to jump in right now
I'm ki i've been in the blockchain space for 10 years. I run a forward protocol, which is a
drag-and-drop no-code solution for dapp deployment
I really, uh, I mean polygon is an ecosystem that i've been closely associated with for many years and so super excited to be
I run an accelerator in dubai as well. So
This is this whole conversation about airdrops
Uh and hunting and not only hunting airdrops
Airdrops are also using airdrops for creatively growing a business or all areas that are pretty close to me
So, uh, thank you so much for having me here
Yeah, awesome to have you here we'll be definitely picking your brain in just a second here we got a
Good question for you. But um before we do that, I just want to make sure we introduce
Just uh, take 20 seconds. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Gm. Gm. Everybody. This is jared. We come behind the easy account
So, well, we want to make things easy for everybody here
Is a platform a gamified platform for people to buy low and sell high
There are nfts that tokens and our rwa assets
Uh and uh dropping some alpha as well. So i'm going to take a little bit more than 20 seconds
Uh, we have a huge airdrop coming up
Right now our platform is on testnet. So I would encourage everybody to go to ec.io
Uh again on that platform. There is a section that talks about how you can earn points and we all know what points mean
Uh more than a hundred. I'm sorry more than a million wallets connected to our testnet
In order to celebrate that we have just increased our
To uh to five hundred thousand dollars in ec tokens. So that's a huge slice of
A delicious airdrop for anybody that's hunting for airdrops
So do check us out ec.io. That's some alpha right here for the for the all roads space
Thanks, everybody. Very nice
Yeah, thank you for dropping the alpha on the show brother
It's exciting and if you have uh
A thread or something like that if you can place that in the jumbotron
We we have listeners that listen to the show even after it's live and you know, they can
Potentially find uh more information about the airdrop
In the end of jumbotron later as well
But um, yeah, so these airdrops
Uh, these airdrops these different tips you get on these this show. I mean some of these results in in some serious, uh
Some serious. I don't know what i'm allowed to say if there's like rules around like but I mean people make some money from these
I mean, I know just like on the doge chain show me not this show but just
A few weeks ago someone came on and was talking about this free mint happening this dojianals free mint that was happening
That uh free mint you've got two of these dojianals dogs, which actually i'm sporting one of them right now
I actually paid for mine because I didn't listen
I wish I would have listened because I would have got two for free and uh, they're now worth thirteen hundred dollars each
So that's 2600 that everybody on that that listened on that show
Got and I ended up having to like buy one
On the on the market later on and like feeling fomo so and there's been so many of these like cases over the years
Uh, you know on this show on the doge chain
Uh show so yeah, take these seriously guys explore them. They're they're no joke. I mean I have not i'm
You know i'm i'm pretty busy. So I don't take as much advantage of these airdrops and stuff
But I know some people who make a ton of money from these like tens of thousands of dollars. So
Yeah, some of them even have to do much for michael. I was trying to get michael to come on the show
I'm sure he would have some tips. I just dm'd him but I mean there was some stuff. He's told me about
Uh, there was good. He i'm pretty sure he told me about the uniswap airdrop back in the day
uh, that was like I think I think it was like
Four thousand dollars I got and then I I sold like half or something
I think I sold half and kept half and i'm still holding that half to this day
But uh, yeah, there's a lot of good good stuff out there guys
Take it seriously if if you're new to the space this might all sound intimidating
But there's some good stuff out there. This space is a very
Interesting space you might wonder because it sounds like ponzi-ish and stuff
Why the hell would a project give away thousands of dollars to for someone to try it out or use it or whatever?
Well, I mean look back at ebay where elon uh or paypal where elon, uh, you know
They were on ebay where they were giving people 20 to sign up and then um, whatever peter teals
I forget the name of was confinity or whatever
They combined right, uh at one point but it was because they were fighting over how much they were basically air dropping people
They were giving like everyone 20 bucks each or whatever to use their platform to fight to be the leader in payments
And they ended up just merging because they were killing each other fighting
But in crypto, it's the same thing except for that. This is a such a massive market
We're talking about a multi-trillion dollar market with a limited amount of eyes because there's while it's a multi-trillion
dollar market, uh, you know just bitcoin alone is almost a trillion right now
Um this multi-trillion dollar market has a limited amount of people actually using dpy, right?
So there's billions of dollars flowing around and sometimes daily
I mean quick swap alone was averaging over a billion dollars a day in volume during the bull run. Uh, that's one application, right?
Um, so there's a lot of money to be had in these these projects are fighting for your attention
They will they're killing and fighting for your attention because whoever wins this
I mean there is trillions of dollars on the line
And so these so people are willing to you know, they're raising like let's use manta as an example
I don't know how big their overall airdrop is but i'm going to guess like
You know tens of millions or even more. Um, overall their airdrops and grants and all this stuff
They're they've been doing to get their chain to you know bootstrap and it's at whatever 500 million or something
I hear different ranges. I see on different analytics like 500 to 700 million. That's just one polygon chain, by the way
um, but you know, they raised that I think uh
What do they raise out of 200 million or 400 million valuation or something in like july of last year?
Now they have these tens of millions hundreds of millions of dollars whatever
Including their token and they're now going to use that to bootstrap their network
So and you have lots of those astar by the way astar was on earlier
Uh is astar did I I was working a bit in the background when they were on there?
Oh great great. Hey rams. Are you guys what's the story with astar?
I know quick swap is in i'm sure a lot of the quick swap, uh community and people may know more but um
What are you guys doing like for are you guys doing airdrops? Uh, what's what's the story with astar going live soon? Yeah
Little context for new listeners, too. So, uh, we're trying to be the first ag layer for for polygon and
Start to kick off the show here with this new tech. So really excited for that and share liquidity amongst everyone
So astar is coming up with a campaign. You might have seen quick swaps, you know share the first edition capsule
Uh tweets that's sort of the uh, it was mentioned earlier like the genesis myths, right?
The these first mints of of a new chain or a new campaign those are kind of key
Um, so we're trying to incentivize these users community members to join in on the fun. We created a game of five
Layer on top of our campaign. So we all remember like on chain summer
You know the whole process of you know checking out the projects there minting NFTs and so on well
We took over we took over this uh, we did this whole research over the last few months and like what's the best way to do it?
but not just you know repeating and written repeat was already existing but
Our you know our roots. We have our founder. So that one time I did japanese a lot of japanese connections
Uh big part of our team is also japanese
And we we've had success, um as a layer one connecting with to yoda sony doing hackathons incubations and and whatnot
And also creating you guys are huge in japan from from all i've heard you guys are big in japan, right?
Um, and now it's in korea and southeast asia just constantly growing as well
Um, and it's interesting too. I wanted to touch upon a few little things before I actually uh, give you the alpha
Um arty luke sarah a lot a lot of conversations in the past two hours. I'm sort of talking about web three
Sort of talking about the the image
The branding how starbucks didn't use it and so on digital assets and we could talk about that forever too
Like how nike and adidas, you know go about it
But there's also some point that I wanted to bring up earlier was it's all about context and culture, right?
There's a lot of um, we could assume that's like the grand
That's what everyone thinks like oh web3 has a bad vibe
Like japan the government is literally using the word web3. They have divisions departments working on web3
It's it's allowing, you know, wasn't bitcoin technically like legal tender in japan at one point, but then it might have changed
What's the story if you go back into the history of bitcoin and the markets?
Uh and and japan it's just like it's historic, right?
And then after like the fallout, you know the initial scams many moons ago
Um, they really lay down the law they created a lot of regulation taxation
To really control that right and now they're opening up again because they see a huge potential in this new tech and japan being
You know, uh, if you remember back in the day, uh
They really took over the texting, right?
It's it's known for that and now they're gonna do it all over again and try to do it with web3
So it's really web3 friendly and that allows
Projects like us which are like the front runners in the most popular blockchain
To really like take get the first lure advantage. And so we have this population
Of japanese users and and everywhere around that region really is just looking at astar like oh, they're legit
They're working alongside the government having talks the founder appearing and talking with the minister
Of finance and so on the digital minister of finance as well
It's so it's interesting because a lot of people don't see that side of web3, right? So it falls on
Projects like that that work on top of us as well and build on top of us to share like look
There's this huge this other side of the world. It's actually
Using nts and atm machines
So you if you make a donation in the atm machine at 7-eleven in tokyo
you can mint an nt on the spot as a receipt or and or
As also as a proof of donation you get a piece of artwork you could go check it out on chain
There's also potato chips that have qr codes you scan it you get you get part of an nft
So you have to scan five different potato chip bags. You get the whole nft
Those are real use cases and real companies doing that already
It's it's funny to me because I work in this and I see all the time
Um, and now, you know working with polygon. Hopefully we could get more exposure to how it's already being used
Dishing up is layer two. Um
And for the campaign we said, you know, let's let's go into our roots. What are we what is japan known for?
intellectual property stories
Anime all these partners that we have and are currently talking to industry leaders. You're talking about the automotive
Uh, not just in japan, but korea as well. So
We're onboarding all those partners. Some of them are dipping their toes into
Web3 for the first time and they're saying, okay, we're gonna give it a shot. We know the government's friendly with web3 in japan
Um, let's do this and quick swap to onboard it as a partner there for a campaign and we're doing this huge
This game layer where you're going around interacting with our partners
They allow you they give you tools to get the
Census layer too. It's pretty really cheap. Um
These nfts these these creatures that are based on actual folklores
Um and traditions from japan all really good, you know, anime artwork
Um, and you're collecting it throughout the whole campaign and we also have a story to go along with it
Part ones already on our on our twitter. You can see it there
Uh every saturday saturday morning cartoons kind of inspired
Um, we're gonna dish out rams. Do do you uh, do you have a a post for that?
Uh a link or actually a post at some point even if you want to dm it to me
I love anime and manga i'm a huge fan. I'd love to uh, I didn't know you guys were doing that. So
Oh, we're going sorry to interrupt. Yeah. No, no, we're going all out. I
Got to get involved in this. Yeah, and that's it's part of the same
This is the part of the way we think outside of box when it comes to, you know rewarding or incentivizing users
Uh japan is also known for being really hospitable, right? So we want people to come into our chain
Uh if they don't even have a wallet, you know, we use a count abstraction to easily create new one. Um,
You're not ready for going to you know, how do you buy e to pay for these gases? We'll use a credit card
We're gonna allow that too
Um, so we're looking at not just the web3 users and those communities
And I like I personally want to share this with everyone like there's
I've been involved in communities from the ground up in web3 and I and I kind of differentiate them now
Like there's micro investors who are community members
There's people who just love tech nerds like me who can be a micro investor as well
Who just want to see it grow and be part of history
um that there's fans of certain like companies or artists and we could go into entities and
And you know, they just want to follow the artwork or the fan or the music whatever it may be
So we've all got types of different types of personal users
So we're trying to create the space and the campaign so it it hits everyone's like liking right?
Will they stay the full two months collecting all these?
And you know ranking up on the leaderboard which we have as well
Uh, who knows but hopefully they will like it. Hopefully they could fall in love with with like the story as well
Um and be part of this new ip that we're creating alongside with real like japanese artists and companies
So that's a little bit of the alpha there what to expect. You could see some glimpses. I'll share some um twitter posts and
Yeah, I think one of the you said it what to look for when when seeking these kind of rewards and incentives
Leaderboard is, you know, something. Yeah fresh and new for 2024
The point system we have our own version of that we take we we gave it our own take as well
And also just like the because it's a new chain
There's legitimacy because we we're we've already proven with our layer one
We can't succeed and now with polygon and partners like crickshot
We're gonna we're gonna succeed and open up, you know, the gateway to japan and web3 in japan through through rastar
So there's a sorry for the this fan. I do have to get going but uh, yeah
Just a big invitation to everybody to check us out at astar. Um our campaign quickshot is there to check out some of the tweets
And and yeah, and then joining the fun. It's starting soon
Yes polygon dragons are going to japan. Hey really really quick
Um, we'd love if you could dm me too
We have a big japan community and an office in japan and we'd love to sink on that
But um, I I gotta run guys. I really want to thank you all for having me on and uh,
Really enjoyed the conversation and would love to come back sometimes. So, uh, thanks everybody
And uh, yeah, if you want to give me follow, give me follow
But um, my dms are always open if anybody wants to uh reach out. Um, thanks again y'all. This is really great
Yeah, really great to have you both here. I know you guys are both leaving. Uh, we we still got 30 minutes on the show
We got a lot of alpha to cover luke
You know appreciate you being here and uh sharing some of the brave alpha also ram's love
Uh, I didn't know that this campaign you guys were doing with astar is so huge
I I do know of many of the the partners that you guys have
Um, but very excited to hear that, you know
There's this campaign with anime or like manga anime and all the partners and different collections that
Uh early adopters will be able to kind of like participate in so super exciting stuff
I know you're on your way out, but thanks for being here as well. Thank you so much everyone
Yeah, and uh, can't wait to share more. Uh, so stay stay tuned
I was gonna pick your brain more but thanks ram. So that was luke from brave
Just took off and rams from astar taking off great to have you as as more information comes out
I know quick swaps already, you know working with you guys the quick swap community, uh, and uh, yeah excited. Hopefully we can
The number one dex on astar. I know
Every uh polygon chain that we've gone to we're number one on so we're number one on polygon pos
We're number one on polygon zkvm. We're number one on doge chain. We're number one on manta
And uh, yeah, hopefully, uh, we'll be number one on astar. We're gonna fight for it
The year of the dragon and and I am actually year of the dragon me too
All right. So yeah, thanks so much
Uh, yes, I I need to run in a bit as well. So I thought i'll just share uh some insights here
So at forward we are as you know
If you're focused on businesses that are coming from web 2 that are building in web 3
Which has also attracted eyes a lot of different, uh layer ones and many other oracles and other entities in the space
So there is a lot of joint activities that's going on right now at forward protocol
And you can check that out in forward factory net as well and the application
Where you could deploy your dapps in various chains
There are some incentives that you can see with your eyes right now
And some which are not published at this point in time, but that will be directly a drop to users as well
end of the day, we are bridging the
Web 2 audience to web 3 through a very simple no-code
Interfaces and this attracts a lot of attention a lot of interest and use cases. So we are super excited to
Just drop that here for you guys as well
Uh, thank you so much for having me here and uh pretty uh, this just this conversation has been super super
Uh exciting to be part of
Yeah, thanks for dropping the alpha and uh, it's great to have you here
Um, I I know yours you're on your way out as well, but I hope you have a great weekend here
Yeah, let's uh, so frog.e just joined us and uh, this is the
Um airdrop alpha hunter that I believe jay greenwood was speaking about I actually posted
That I think producer darren sent it to me
But uh, if you could take 30 seconds introduce yourself, uh, or if you want to drop some alpha, um about
You know the evolution of air drops or you know, some tips and tricks whatever whatever you got brother. Welcome. Hey, so, um
Uh, i'm frog. Uh, i've been hunting airdrops ever since I got my first airdrop from uniswap
Uh, i've been doing this for a while
Not very good at twitter, but um, i'm very active on telegram and discord
Um, so recently the airdrop meta has been
Quests and points. So that's what i've been focusing all my efforts on is just
Pushing out all the quests from the newer projects
And focusing volume on projects that are coincident and stuff
The last two airdrops i've gotten so far have yielded me
Six figures, but that's just from one wallet
The airdrop meta like has evolved from you know
Just natural using of the protocol to now it's more
Protocols are kind of farming you in a sense
So you kind of just have to adapt around that and
Kind of can you explain that more? What does that mean farming you so protocols now like they understand the um
They understand the power of an airdrop right so they
They know how much marketing power
It has to not have a token
To acquire that token basically
So, um, they're using that
You know to get people to use their platform
That makes you mean like they're basically they're
And they know that you know or that you think that they're going to do some kind of airdrop
So they know that people are going to come use their platform in anticipation of the possibility of an airdrop in the future
pretty much that and uh, what they've been doing recently is um
Or what i've been doing recently is going into tokenless protocols and looking for
Active quests because a lot of newer protocols recently have been going for galaxy quests galaxy quests are really big
Interact quests are also very big now, too
Um, we've seen a lot of newer protocols using those they didn't used to be as important before
But now it's becoming the new meta to do quests and um
You know that kind of that kind of business
I have a question for uh far.eath a real quick. Um
As an airdrop hunter, uh, what do you prefer like when you see these uh airdrops like
Like do you go after the quest you go after the points or just kind of do?
For me, uh, my favorite thing to do is I mean the easiest thing is a quest
Is the quest that reward the nfts right because that's as straightforward as it gets
the protocol is literally telling you what to do
And they're kind of giving you a reward for it
Uh the last I think it was dimension
Uh rewarded a bunch of nft holders
like I got um, I think it was like 1600 dimension just for holding a pudgy penguin and um
Yeah, so there there's a lot of newer protocols that are just granting and if they're all
rewarding people for holding nfts
Um, so those are those are pretty easy looking for
Uh protocols that release an nft
Actually some alpha for you guys
squid router does not have a token
Star's network, but there's barely any for sale right now. I think there's like one left
um, but yeah, it's like looking for stuff like that where
Uh, the protocol released an nft and not many people are looking for it
You kind of look for that. Um
Another protocol that i've been looking at like heavily is my friend jeff's protocol demos
Um demos is really good for
Uh anti-sybil stuff because it has proof of humanity
Um, and that's what we're going to see with a lot of newer protocols
to get around the civil stuff
So like linea's doing it and then zk sink is going to do that as well
Uh zk sink is releasing their cat campaign
And then um, yeah, they're basically going to require you to do the get coin passport or whatever
So that that's another thing. That's like
A new meta is you know proving that you're human and also demos doesn't have a token
Very interesting they were just on yeah, um
Very interesting they were they were just on yeah, um
Yeah for the audience when you're explaining uh
Demo or can you explain civil?
Like because because these protocols used to be so easy to farm and uh arbitrum was a very good example. I
a lot of my friends farmed
about like 50 to 60 wallets
The issue with that is so a lot of people will do like 10 wallets
So like if you had a balance of one eth instead of doing normal volume on one
Wallet you would split that one eth into 10 different wallets and try to get minimum allocation on 10 different wallets
And usually that yields you more
On the 10 different wallets than it does
With one wallet doing the same volumes because there's usually like
A token amount a good example of that is like
Uh judo soul when that when that was launched
So when that was launched you just had to stake
Um while like if you staked
A couple months or whatever you would have
yielded maybe like two to three times that so you could have split up your
high five-figure position into like
Four figure positions or even or three figure positions and you would have yielded a lot more
But yeah, that's what sibling is it's it's where you use many wallets
And instead of just one and the the main thing of counteracting that now is proof of humanity
Very cool. Yeah. Thank you for it. Go under that
Say yeah, it works side by side. That's kind of what I was referring to earlier, you know exactly that type of action
On optimism, that's what lost, you know
Um, you know on arbitrum as the man himself said look at how many times he was able to sibyl
With stuff like damos and our only me id. Um, you know, you're you're securing on the project side that that is not going to happen
Um, you know as of right now, we've had a hundred percent user uniqueness
Um, you know individuals out there that have been able to do so, you know
We have open bounties etc to to figure that out. Uh, if you're able to so by all means, um, you know
I uh, and I would just point out that we don't have a token of red damos, uh yet
And i'll leave it at that. Thank you
Oh, uh, good time thing before before I hop off, um
Yeah, thank you for that. Yeah, uh, there's
Clusters is closing in one hour and 15 minutes. Um
That's a naming protocol by layer zero
Uh cluster it's actually made by the layer zero team
Yeah, it's basically a multi-chain ens domain made by
Uh layer zero and if you put your bids in right now
Uh, they'll finalize in an hour and 15 minutes
So you'll get the clusters airdrop and the layer zero airdrop
Oh, I swear I'll post that on uh in twitter
Nice one, I just followed you. So, uh
Yeah, I I hear like I mean even some like bc friends over the weekends they'll just
Spin up wallets and start hunting
Drops like whatever whatever's going on in the industry and some of some of my friends are telling me, you know, they're making
uh, you know thousands of dollars a
Month just just you know passively kind of
farming around or or whatever so it's not like i've been more of like a staker and uh
Not not so uh aggressive, but I do find it pretty interesting
Like if you just take a little bit of time or follow the right people you can
Um get the proper research really
Find these these gems, you know all around the industry. So it's pretty exciting and uh, thank you for for sharing frog
Uh, you said you're a staker. Did you deposit into puffer?
Puffer's a really good. No, like backed by jump and binance
And you get egan layer points for eigen layer
Off to look into that the off to looking at puffer. I have actually heard of that one to be honest
I'm usually just staking like directly to the network with with uh tokens that I
Hold for like, you know, like long term
but i'm guessing like puffer is like, uh
What is that it's just like a dap or uh, it's it's an lrt liquid restake token. Oh, okay. Yeah, um
It's it's not only an lrt. It's also a layer two as well
so you're kind of farming a layer to uh a future layer two token as well as
Eigen layer and the points
Aren't as diluted as all the other lrt's
Because it just recently came out so
I think it's really important to like underline like how little time that is required to get good exposure to this
Um, like up until the past couple months. I probably spent like an hour over the course of a week and did relatively good. Uh,
You know, definitely it rivals
You know pretty much anything else out there that you could be spending an hour of your time on
Um pretty much every month or two even during the bear market was getting something
Um, you know or at least exposure to new things with you know, 20 bucks worth of tokens on the low side, right?
Um more recently, like I said just uh so far in 2024 have done extremely well
Um, you know, I would say uh averaging probably like four or five hundred an hour on outflows
I don't think that that's going to be
You know kind of consistent throughout but I think people think that you really have to like, you know
Change your lifestyle or quit your nine to five or do whatever. I I do know people frog knows people that
Um do this 24 7 365 and they clean house
Um, it's also, you know with with the innovation things like damo synonymous, uh other type of on-chain out of station like click
Um that that's pretty much going to get phased out with you know, symbols
Um, I know people that were literally getting uh, like workers and fiber to do this for them 24 7
Um, you know on multiple accounts
So that as that's getting phased out now the individuality of other people that aren't involved getting involved and you know
Looking for these drops is bigger than ever. Um, you know, it's more important than ever, you know
Get your piece of the pie before, you know, um others do and you know, uh,
Some of these are such low friction
I mean frogs posted some recently a couple other sources I go through and posted some recently
I literally minted an nft on galaxy and you know copped like 240 bucks the other day
So, I mean it's just it's so simple
Um, you know, you can spend any amount of time really and scale into it and I think uh the best part for me
um, i'm in b bd and infrastructure at a couple different places and
I feel like you know, some days you kind of feel like oh, well, I know like everything that's going on right now, right?
Yeah, uh, I would say like for myself i've been here for a decade
I know less than one percent of all ongoing projects at any given time
Um, you know historically with the kind of the airdrop search that's probably exposed me to like five percent at most
But still, you know, it's just like every day. There's something new out there
And even if there's not a drop you're getting exposure to something that goes into my yield strategies that goes into just kind of my
So it's kind of a win-win no matter what. Um, so I just want to put that out there
Because I feel like a lot of people think there's a high barrier to entry. There definitely is not it is much easier than
Nice nice. Yeah, I think that's
very reassuring and refreshing to hear because uh, I'll have to I have to tell you like I
Before this space I believe that
It was something that you you know
You'd have to change your lifestyle to to kind of get into and really
Actually kind of clean house like uh, some of my friends
Um are doing so but but I guess if you're following the right person
that has the alpha or kind of has
more easily find these uh
These airdrops and I also hear, you know, there's actually
alpha groups telegram chats
I got friends that invite me to all these things but because I work so much I I don't uh,
I haven't really like participated but I know that uh, there's definitely
A lot of people in the space that have the alpha. So I think that's if uh, if I took one thing from this space it's
Follow so like I followed demos
Jay Green followed you you know, like
Follow the the right people and follow the right accounts. Maybe like uh, I look at like
I guess i'm looking at demos as an example because it's uh
You know connecting people and helping helping that
The projects get the their drops to you know, the most loyal people you might get some alpha there
And also from you know, these various threators or groups so that so that would be the alpha I think
For everyone here go ahead and find those people follow them and and uh, I think it's funny because I think of myself as a
An alpha spreader, but after this space I realize, um, you know, there's there's some people that really have it down
um much much further than I do so
good times if you're uh, if you're more of a
I have a announcement channel where I just dump my daily tasks
um, like all the quests I do and stuff
Yeah, you can just scroll through it whenever and you know do do whatever you see fit
um, obviously you don't have to do all of it because
I'm on this I'm on this stuff like 24 7 but um
But yeah, also, uh one one thing to note when you're doing a lot of this stuff
Um, so like when you're farming
Even if you don't get that air drop
You're kind of providing an on-chain footprint
That can be used for other air drops
uh, so like layer two activity was rewarded
a lot over the past year and
And that's with layer twos that already have a token. So
even even if you don't get the specific one you're going for you can still
Like your time and money isn't going to waste, you know
Crypto rewards people that just stick around
Hey guys, we're coming to the end of the space here in seven minutes
I'd like to give some shout outs to the audience and read some comments. Uh,
Are we good on everything else? Can I get to some community stuff? Yeah, sounds good. We can we can finish up like that. I think
Frog and uh j green dropped a lot of alpha here
Crypto rider. I feel like we we uh, because I know you you had a really good question earlier, you know, and you're talking about your
uh, corgi studios potentially doing something in the future and uh, you know se drops some some alpha as well, but um
Your question was was great because it it was I think
Answered in so many different ways by j green and frog here. So, uh,
So yeah, thanks. Thanks for that question. But yeah rock. Um, I think we're ready
All right, let's do it man we got 164 comments
I'm gonna get through as many as I can here. Um, let's see if we have any questions or anything. Um
Dimitri gave a purple heart
Michael ionita says let's be honest airdrops are upgraded airline miles in such programs just now they're on chain and thus can be
Interoperable between projects where miles are only useful with one business or company
What am I getting at airdrops have new features?
And if you don't use them, it's no better than the airline miles utilize interoperability
Tokenomics and community when planning your airdrops. Otherwise
You're missing the benefits 172 views on that one. Nice. Um
No token for demos global yet. We've got um, that's by
Greenwood dot eth who we had as a speaker today. I don't know how if i'm pronouncing that right
Uh colette freeburg says I love balls and pepe
Miss iko says earn some points and gave a link to how you can earn some uh,
Uh, like he was talking about earlier. Okay, we've got a husky t says airdrop season is here awaken the beast
We've got beer and weed says sheesh
Koolo shark says let's go koolo
Uh and put a picture of a butt
Jared says win rock token key key key key key
Uh, no rock token my friend, uh, but uh, thanks for the support. Jared appreciate you man
Uh crypto goku says love my sayans and I by the way, I love your pfp man
It's goku in a suit looking like uh, I don't know like a japanese. Uh
Uh triad or something. Um
Or wait, we're triads japanese. No, that's chinese, right? My bad
Der master lock says ha ha ha I love balls
San pepe someone says ha ha ha mr. Dude says ha ha ha i'm rom i'm ron burgundy and I love balls
Crypto diver loves balls also. Okay
They're trying to they're trying to get you to uh say certain things probably
Um because they know you're just going to read down the list
Hey real real quick, um, jared just reminded me, you know to to let everyone know happy, uh lunar new year
So just want to throw that in for everyone
And shout out to all the uh year of the dragons out there. Oh, by the way guys, I forgot to mention earlier
We we we briefly broke 48k now we came back below it, but we briefly broke 48k. Congratulations
Everyone who's holding bitcoin and eth was uh over 2,500. I don't know what it's at right now
but uh continuing with the comments, um
Uh, he's a dc ambassador says testnet
Competition for a 51 phi soon get a 51 as a reward. Okay
Posted a link to a tweet and uh talking about great rewards in great growing community
I like poisonous pinups. They uh, we've had them on before
Beer and weed says win double she shak shish kabob air drop
Mais runna says dragon university school days. Hey, I like this cool cool. Uh
I'm gonna give you a retweet man. Um, it's uh, it's some dragons at school at like what looks like some kind of hogwort school
Loves balls. I'm not gonna say I love balls. You almost got me there buddy, but
We've got uh, i'm skipping some people who comment a bunch of times
But uh metal crazy 22 says i've been at work the whole time, but this is great alpha great information being dropped in the spaces today
It's truly an eye-opener how much is being thrown around to get people to use their product
But also user attention is vital for the long term. I'm one to try apps
Um alba dozo lorac moroff says please how can we get w doge's gas fees to transfer dc out of metamask?
You're asking about on doge chain i'm assuming so
Doge chain has a native bridge from proof of work doge. So you
Would what there's 51 people commented on this jesus, right? I'll check in a second. But um
You just bridge doge from proof of work doge using
uh, the native bridge on doge chain dog, um
And uh, that's your your rap doge is your gas and your main currency on doge chain
Which is moving to polygon zkvm very soon
Uh, just like astar and manta etc. Oh and okx coming soon as well
Um, yeah, we actually have the uh doge chain space in one minute. So do yeah, we haven't really let anyone know
Yeah in one minute or just after we read some of these comments
We're going to go over there and it's a pretty hot topic today. Actually. Um,
It's basically the same argument that's been happening on bitcoin ordinals
and ordinals are kind of like
They're nfts basically and meme coins and tokens and you can make stable coins on top of bitcoin now
And a lot of people are complaining because it's making bitcoin fees very high
It's making it even harder to use lightning network to open channels. It's making it harder to send transaction on bitcoin
um, so a lot of bitcoiners hate them they want to like do some kind of hard fork to get rid of them and
Many bitcoiners are like hey if they're paying the the transaction fee, it's fair game. It's we can't censor
Um, so that conversation is now dogeinals, uh is happening
So because bitcoin ordinals fees went up a lot of people moved to doge
Uh and are doing ordinals on doge and that's a big community right now
And we're going to have a bunch of them on the next spaces
But the argument now one of the so one of the doge foundation
Uh members timothy stepping he posted a couple days ago yesterday
uh, you know that is that doge is sick and so
Basically, there's some exchanges and there's some wallet providers who are having trouble running their doge infrastructure
Because of these dogeinals because there's millions of transactions happening and my assessment is that it's not actually the chain. That's the problem
It's these infrastructure pieces are just not used to this much traffic. So I think it's great for doge
I think ordinals are great for bitcoin, but if you disagree come come argue with us on the spaces. We may have
Uh some doge foundation members and different devs and lots of different some of the biggest doge
Actually, the biggest dogeinals
Uh nft dogeinals dogs, which i'm sporting one. They'll be there. I think doge labs who built the biggest marketplace there
They'll be there. Uh, so yeah, we'll be fun. Okay back to comments
We actually at the top of the hour
So i'm not i'm not sure if you want to uh wrap up so we can go to the doge chain space or or how you want to do
Yeah, you you're so excited about the doge chain space today and I know why because aztec will be special guesting there
He doesn't normally come to that space, but he will be coming today
So if you're a big aztec fan guys
You and you want to hear more from aztec he'll be there today, which i'm i'm really excited about i'll have my my my
My trusty partner over there. Uh
Having more fun. Okay. I'll read just a few more comments and then we'll hop over there. Um
So mr. Dude says love you guys can't believe how long you go for crushing it. Tell darren send monies
Uh, let's go gm fam. I love balls. Hey cryptic rick. I actually commented on one of your uh
Something you said about dogeinals, uh yesterday. I think i'm pretty sure you're the same person
Uh, yeah, come on that spaces and we can continue that conversation. We're having in comments
Uh, I didn't know you're uh, also a big polygon fan and pepe saying fan. That's cool
Madass says you can't expect people to suddenly turn trusting in what they download and buy especially in the crypto space
I never seen so many scammers concentrated into one space in my life
I don't know if you're talking about the crypto space or this twitter spaces
Um, if you're talking about the crypto space it is sad
But it is like the highest concentration of scammers in the world. It really is crypto has a lot of scammers
So personally, I don't download new wallets that I don't trust like I use brave
That's that's you know one but a lot of these things. I also have multiple computers for and I do things like you
Whatever, uh virtual machines and air gapped computers and all kinds of stuff because I just have too much to lose now
When you're earlier on maybe you can be a little more
Cowboy with what you download but uh, yeah
We've talked on this show a lot about security measures. We can we can talk more about that another time
But yeah, you're right madash. Don't just trust any wallet. Yeah, I agree
You need to do your due diligence
You need to make sure it's either audited or cleared by maybe like the apple or android app stores or you know
I even send it to my dev friends and have them look at it and tell me if it looks safe or not
And even then I still probably put it on a secondary computer or on in a virtual machine
Uh sandboxed or stuff like that also using multiple ledgers helps with that. Um using multiple wallets on one ledger
I use for things that I don't totally trust apps. I don't I connect with like, you know
Further down wallets I have and then I have main wallets that I never connect to anything
I only will send and receive from that wallet
Those are like vault wallets and you can do things like peppering with an extra seed phrase word and
But yeah, you're right. Be careful downloading random apps because you will get
Screwed if you just download everything. Okay
Uh, just a couple more here. I'm skipping all the I love ball. Okay big flex zombie loves balls. Uh
Uh lonard tree if I miss a ball in pepe i'm holding you saying pepe personally responsible
Uh and ends up in terror says well, I love balls
Man, everybody wants part of this. Uh, these this freak
So what is it? It's a giveaway or is everyone who comments getting something or is it just a few people?
Do you know Aztec they uh, they have an nft?
Like part of the nft collection is the friendship ball. They've given a whole bunch of quick swap
I think we've got quite a lot to give away. So everyone that loves balls can I can get some?
The giveaway announcement is up above in the it's actually the second pinned post
So if you want more information on
What rock's talking about?
Jordan took um Aztec and got rubbed like much more than uh than usual
uh, but they did want me to mention, uh
The a few decal holders might also be part of the uh, the spirit bomb when they they run that airdrop as well
Uh, do do me a favor Aztec. I got someone just got me. I gotta do something
But hey, can you uh read uh a few more comments or or actually shout out?
Uh, i'm just trying to give good time to the audience
Like we always like don't give enough time to the audience. Can you maybe shout out some audience members that are listening right now?
Yeah, we'll shout out some people and then float the the space
Down guys. So yeah, thank you everyone. That's uh, shared all the alpha today and also
Uh joined us listening in on the alpha. Uh a lot of really
Great, uh friends in the in the audience here. We got luke
Uh in the audience you got david 10x got a bunch of the corgi crew here
Uh, and and if you don't know what a corgi is crypto writer here on the panel
Has a corgi nft and they also have their nft platform corgi studios
So shout out to them, uh being so supportive quick swap in the polygon, uh space here
Pope black is in the audience friend. Uh from secret network
And uh the crypto knook is in the audience as well patrick a good friend
Who does uh bd at lunar digital assets and also helps a lot with the show is in the the audience here
Rainbow also jared is here bearing weed who was on last week
Is also here that's a an nft project that that came through corgi studios and it's here on polygon
Uh joining in on the fun that we have uh, manny b
Investing he's a friend of quick swap and he he's made some great uh quick swap youtube videos. So
shout out to you bro, uh ruby who's a
And uh friend is in the audience crypto vixen
Is here namis is here ethos
Uh, it's it's just a long list of of really great projects friends and everyone
So, um, i'm glad to have shared this time with you guys
This is definitely a space where I think I'll I want to go back and listen to it again
Because there was just so much alpha. I think also i'm going to be going through the pin tweets later on
after the space that i'm going to
Just to kind of look through
Some of the opportunities that are here. So none of what we talked about is financial advice guys and uh, but but I mean
The proof's in the pudding. There's plenty of there's plenty of people in this space. Uh
Finding all kinds of crazy opportunities and
And uh jumping in on this like airdrop season and polygon is a perfect place to start as well, but
Finding the people that have the alpha
Uh plenty of people joined us today that were dropping all kinds of tips and tricks
So it was an exciting space a lot to learn. I feel like my my brain just like it was like a sponge today and uh
And it's a little heavy going to the next space. So I hope i'm not too slow after consuming someone should go through
We should talk to some of the airdrop, uh, like hunters or guide makers
Maybe the frog guy that was just on seemed to have a lot of knowledge
And maybe someone should comb through this re-listen to this space
And distill all the best airdrops and points down into a dock like a little guide like an a have one for you, right?
I'll just add uh, the other stuff that was mentioned today already got a sheet happy to plug it
Nice are you gonna do a thread or
Uh, I have a an open google sheet that has pretty much everything that's available at any given time on there and then you can
shart it off and you can click ones that you've completed and all that happy stuff
But i'll just go through and re-add everything that was mentioned in here that I uh had not heard of yet
Because there was probably like six or seven that I had not heard of so I can add those on and uh,
Anyone can dm me if you want to invite to farcaster or you want to uh have access to that
I'll post it somewhere over here momentarily
When do we where do we find you? Do you have a group or something?
Where where's the best place to follow this sheet or they have to I someone was calling
Me up. Yes, so you can you can dm me directly. I can give you any info you want
Like I said frog's got a couple groups. I do as well
Um, so I mean that's probably the best way because if I if I just plug them all it's gonna be nuts
Uh, it's quite a few different options depending on how you like to receive stuff discord telegram sheets all these different things
So, uh, you know, feel free. Um, anyone can uh, hop in my inbox and i'll put this stuff out
Also when I do update the sheet later i'll plug it with a couple of groups. Uh,
And um, I will chat with you darren on the best way to uh,
Uh kind of disseminate so perfect. Yeah, darren help him out with that. That's great. Awesome. All right guys
All right, we're good. We got to run we're getting yelled at to come to the next spaces and there's there's a bunch of people
Waiting, but please come over to the next spaces. We'll continue this
And uh, we'll talk about some other things also like blackrock and fidelity have hit over a seven billion dollars
Fidelity is now has is now doing what we all
Theorized for so many years would happen in the world, which is that asset managers would start allocating at least one percent of their
Portfolios to bitcoin and fidelity is now doing that with their all-in-one
ETF they have three versions
We'll talk more about what these are on on the next spaces, but really incredible to see
Literally, if you go to fidelity and buy they're all in one ETF
You are now buying bitcoin the whole world is getting on bitcoin. So let's go boys. Okay. See you guys
Let's go happy weekend everyone. Happy lunar new year. Uh, have a great one guys