All right, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, I'll go fam, how's everybody doing today? I am so excited about to launch on another hour long conversation with another two amazing startups building on the organ ecosystem. As you all know, for the last couple of weeks,
We have been doing this series of weekly Twitter spaces featuring two at a time of the startups currently being accelerated by algorithm accelerate our Europe based startup accelerator in the algorithm ecosystem. So today I have the honor and pleasure of being joined by
the teams from rewind music and Zabava Labs and now also I have the extreme honor of being joined by my friends and colleagues Mr. Shamir and Mr. Kiji here on the stage. So let me start quickly with just general welcome Kiji Shamir how you both doing today.
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. It's evening here in Israel. It's been a nice productive day and really excited.
Hey what's up friend? How's everybody doing? Pleasure to be here.
Fantastic thank you very much you both for joining you know you guys are all scatter all over the world So I should appreciate it taking the time to join our three spaces today Well, I'll go fan. I'm just gonna start with a very quick round of introductions so we can get right to the good stuff So as you have just heard, you know, I'm joined by my two
new friends and colleagues, Shamir and Pigi. Pigi is our head of gaming here, Daughern Foundation, of course, you all know him already and you all know Mr. Shamir who is our head of Web 3, although I have petitioned internally to change his title to King of Web 3, but that's still a work in progress, right Shamir? I don't think they have updated your title already, have they?
Not quite yet, not quite yet Fred. I'm working at it and appreciate your advocacy. Thanks. Alright, I'll keep working at it. I promise. And then of course, you know, for our guests of the hour are the teams from rewind music and the battle apps. So I'm going to do a very quick introduction on the teams and you know, that the
They are present here today and of course we jump to the good stuff. So from rewind music, we are joined by the two co-founders Carlos Lawrence and Lorenzo Zambele. Carlos is the co-founder and CEO of Rewind and has experienced his stopped engineering and product management mainly in AI related products. And his co-founder
Lorenzo is the CGO of Rewind and at the moment is focused on scouting artists and labels to join the project. He has a background in economics and statistics. And from the Zabava Labs team we have both Dan and Bud. They're both of course, co-founders, beauties of Abava Labs. Dan is a self-proclaimed
in the game developer with experiences in computer vision and product management and mod is, well also it is a lot, as a mother and most recently he was head of DeFi at a quant fund and he also has a few years of work experience in a high-frequency trading fund engineering and game development as well.
So, you know, I think I did some mild proper introductions to both teams, but what I'm going to do before we get started to the actual questions of our conversation, I'm just going to invite both teams starting with the rewind team. You know, just to give a brief introduction on their project and what they're building on our rent. So rewind, please, the floor is yours.
Hi, I'm Carlos. So rewind the NFT music marketplace. Our goal is to liberate and support musician, even the more freedom and control over the music.
to mainly at the monetize at Scarcity are under production engage with their community.
and bring balance between artists, their music and their communities.
Fantastic, thank you very much Carlos and from the Zabava Lab teams, how do we have behind the profile today?
Hi. Can you guys hear me? Yup.
Yeah, so before I begin, could you add El Dante? That's then one of the co-founders as well, but he is not a speaker right now. So we had El Dante to be a speaker. I still have the request, but I think the dog was on the team. No worries, no worries.
Welcome, guys. All right. Okay. So yeah, yeah. So I can just give like a introduction, but Zababa. I think we are a game studio right now based in Singapore. And we are building so move, which is an ER dance rhythm game on algorithms.
Fantastic so it is quite late for you guys as in like maybe two a year or something take very much for joining us that you appreciate it Fantastic and I'll go fam. I'm happy to be here excellent. Oh, I'll go fam. You know the drill this Twitter spaces are a place for you to
to come and meet the teams, ask questions. So what we're going to do now is, you know, myself, Shemura and Pigeon, we're going to take turns asking, you know, all the co-founders, lots of questions to bad understand the products, everything, their ability, but this is for you. So if at any moment you have any questions or you want to ask any follow-ups,
It's super easy, just hate the mic request button. We're going to bring it to the speaker board and then you can ask for questions directly, all right, Augusta? So in order to get started, maybe I'm going to invite PG and maybe PG, can you ask the inaugural question of our Twitter spaces today?
Sure thing for I will again very very happy to be here overall I guess like probably before you know getting started with like you know on the product side and learning more about the companies this this great funders are building maybe boost
It'd be great to hear from them about their experience with our grant accelerators and overall their journey. Then we can get more into the details of what they're building and their current roadmap and plans for the future. How does that sound, guys?
Yes, that was good. All right, Maddie, you want to kick off?
Yeah, sure. So I think that algorithmic sorry that has been really really insightful I would say like the excerpt that kind of like put us in touch with a lot of the other founders put us on the map I would say in the algorithm ecosystem.
I think we had good connections set up with all verticals from DeFi, gaming and infrastructure. And I think additionally there were some gaps that were filled by some of the workshops that they
So I think on the marketing side growth, I think were the two things that I think, I mean, both myself and Dan were both technical. So some of these stuff are, you know, we're not very good at it. So it's really amazing to kind of like get the chance to learn from some
of these experts that the algorithm has provided for us. But I think in general, I think the best part is definitely meeting other founders, just getting really excited every week to come and build new things. I think the other founders just push us every day.
They say agree with Matt like the workshops were great. We're feeling the gaps in a lot of parts where that was not familiar with the UI UX design, the marketing side, the growth side, how to
talk to investors and tell the story. They were very, very insightful. So we are happy to be there and also meet the other great funders that working on future partnerships with them and just growing together.
Amazing, that's great to hear. I guess there's also an encouragement to any builder out there in the community in this space. If you're building either looking for a chain or already building an algorithm, absolutely consider applying to one of our accelerators.
the DERG-Ray resource again both to like learn but also like to get connected to other founders in the ecosystem which I think is an absolute value also because that's how you know you get started how you get connected to the community how you can engage the
brother ecosystem. So, good to you guys for going through the program. And I know there's a demo day coming up, so good luck for that. I guess we can dive a little bit deeper into the actual products. I'd love to hear from both of
you guys, what precisely are you building and also how are you leveraging the algorithm? Both of you are building products that definitely leverage Web3 primitives, but I think are done for the broader
user base outside of crypto and I guess that's you know that's the bread and butter of our industry overall, you know, bridging the gap. So how are you bridging that gap? How are you leveraging algorithm then overall just you know, quick intro about what you're you're building maybe you know, mud started before maybe Carlos you can you can go first this time.
So rewind is a music and launch for the marketplace and the disaggregates every kind of music rated content. And as I said before, it's a monetize that's carcinogenic production and engage with the community. We have chosen algorithms
because I think it's a great blockchain but also because of the barrier of entry for a lot of musicians coming from web2 is very low since Peravolate, the Agronvolate is great, very easy to use and also the
the cost to maintain an FD and for transaction cost is very low, so they don't have to spend a lot of money since maybe at the beginning they're going to be a little bit skeptical, but at this point they're not going to have anything to lose, just try out and see if they like it and
how they engage with their platform. But yes, mainly we use the ongoing for that side. And we have been building for the past year and a half. We are close to Lounge. I think we are a month away and we are ready to go online.
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I just want to say that for the tech side, I think Dan is a tech expert here. So just want to pass it to him to talk about it.
Yeah, for us, the main use of our grand is actually for NFTs. So we are trying to create characters which are upgradable. So the more you play our game, the more calories you burn and then, you know, the calories can be stored on the blockchain and we can use those calories to update our characters as NFTs. So there will be in a form of ARC 19.
I think that's a very unique feature that we can achieve on our grand. I'm not sure if we can do other blockchains. And of course, we're also experimenting with various other products in our grand as well. In terms of storing the scores on a blockchain,
I'm trying to prevent and teach it as well. So I've been looking into that. Fantastic, I appreciate it. Great, and Matt, would you mind giving also a brief intro of what you guys are building with someone?
Yeah, so I think we are building an AR dance rhythm game. I think that's the call product for So move. I think Zabab itself, I think it is a studio that focuses on building great products. Right now we are focusing on So move, but I think we're not closing the door in the future.
for D file, in fraud, any kind of like gaming element to the algorithm ecosystem, but definitely still movies of flagship one we're focusing on it and I think we are also focusing regionally like specifically in Vietnam and Indonesia.
But I think piggybacking on what Dan has said, we want to be able to ensure that at any point of time you have a well-designed progression. So the NFTs that come into play in our game do not just stop there. You can use that same identity, same NFTs.
across all the games that will be released by us. And the progression is that, you know, you will see some, the NFTs that will come out, you'll see it kind of grow along as you kind of lose calories. So I think stay tuned for that. It could be, you know, you look muscular or you look shinier. Yeah, well, we didn't see about that.
Right. I got a question for the Remind folks Carlos and Lorenzo. You know, we talk internally a lot about music, but I'd be curious if you could maybe elaborate a little kind of about why you're tackling the music industry.
Our space or field is all about disruption, right? How do you envision disrupting the music industry? And even, I think, on a broader level, how do you expect the music industry to change over the next decade or so, right? And where does rewind fit in?
Okay, so we choose music because we think that right now streaming platforms are really annoying the music industry because for musicians it's very hard to monetize on streaming platforms you need to have a lot of streams but even the
they are paid very low. There is no scarcity around their production, their content is accessible to everybody, there is no barrier of entry, there is no collectability anymore. And so it's very hard for them to figure out who are through pants or not. So we think that within the next 10 years,
Because every artist will pre-sell music as NFTs and our big differentiator is that we don't only support albumment songs but we are a platform that where you can buy every kind of music related assets, it can be a bit.
for music production, sample library for music production, a live set, a music video, a ticket, and of course album and so on. So I think musicians are going to understand that this is the way to do it, to go because it's more fair and they have more control and freedom over the music.
So what are they missing right now? I guess like you know, we PG mentioned before and we've been talking a lot about bridging that gap right and onboarding people from web 2 to web 3 whether it's the creators themselves right the musicians or their fans. How do you how do you kind of envision that seamless?
transition because let's face it, right? Today it's kind of hard. It's kind of hard to download a wallet and save a seed phrase and self-custody and connect your wallet. Maybe some of us that are on this chat take it for granted, but most people don't, right? For most people it's just a little too much friction. How do you go ahead and tackle that?
So for now we have been onboarding all of our musicians and spending them that is not about crypto, but it's about music, it's about giving them the power back. In taking the technical sense, a big thing that we are doing to have a seamless interaction with our platform is integration.
with magic link so that is create an account we have that integrated with Stripe so initially when they're not familiar with crypto maybe they can use that and in the future they can move their NFTs on the actual NFT the algorithm wallet
Yeah, there's some some some great innovations that you mentioned, you know, magic link stripe and yeah, I think you know where I was trying to push that the music industry is as a lot of people here may know there are some pretty prominent organizations within the music industry building on our grand, you know, starting with now.
which most people know about opulence, dequeancy, anode, lime wire, stowage, I can keep going and going, but I get really excited by music for all the reasons you mentioned. I think first of all there's a lot there to disrupt and creators are kind of looking for those
opportunities and music has traditionally been undervalued I think because of the lack of ability to properly monetize it as a field. And you know I think what you from the end users perspective right they're expecting kind of
that web to like experience when it comes down to it, they don't really care that they're interacting with blockchain or web3 or whatever they just wanted to work and they wanted it to delight them, right? They want a good experience doing it. So again, that's, and then you mentioned ticketing as well, right? We have talked about ticketing and that.
too many Twitter spaces. But that too, right, is one of those Trojan horses in my mind. I'll just repeat it here in that it's you're not asking users to change their behavior, but rather you're incorporating NFTs and blockchain technology within an existing industry and using that in order
to open countless new doors. So that's very exciting. Yes, I think another thing in addition to that is giving utility behind NFTs. So in our platform we give the freedom to artists to add utility behind their NFTs. So for buyers it's easier
on the stem with an NFT is because maybe they get they buy the NFT but also receive a physical good they can be a vinyl, a CD, a merchandise or they can unlock exclusive experiences participating to giveaways or they get their drop the next song just interaction with their community I think it's big key.
I love that and I think I can repurpose that you know this question for Matt. I am you know what we're talking about music but dance is also you know great. I guess you know Trojan or so to question here and you know I think gamifying and incentivizing this
this type of experience. It's a great win for the crypto industry overall and when we talk about gaming it's not just like you know the your traditional video game but it's also gameifying certain type of experiences. So man I'll kick it to you is like what
What are your guys plan to do so to onboard people to bridge that gap to make things easier also from the UX perspective you mentioned AR? What other steps are you guys taking to make that onboarding experience seamless?
Right, sure. So I think, I mean, it's difficult. I think trying to, I mean, web2 users already are very lazy. Now you want to, you know, let them kind of copy down 24, what 24, what seed phrases, right? It's going to take like even harder than to onboard them.
So I think for us it's even kind of like the initial research that we've done here in Indonesia, I think a lot of people don't really know how to use some of these apps. So I think for us the first kind of step of action is to build on-bonding tutorials and videos and articles.
So we kind of like started to write articles in English, but also in Bahasa, which is the native language in Indonesia to kind of help with some of these onboarding. So I think that's the education part is definitely a key gap that we also want to fill. I think concurrently, some of the we also been chatting with a few
amazing projects like drop chain. I think we had a good chat myself and Dan with Qatar to kind of see, you know, if there's any avenues for us to use some of these on-boding tools. I think for Magicalink we've not tried that before, but we're open to kind of speak with other projects as well to see how they can help out with
the onboarding part. But I think for us, besides that, I think there are already existing good solutions. I think Para for the mobile site has good UI. My algorithm has good UI as well. But I think even for us, we definitely
need more feedback. I think we welcome users to join us, try out the app itself and give feedback in Discord and Twitter, whether that's annoying for you guys to use or you guys want something that's simpler, especially for gaming, I think even myself, when I play a lot of games specifically
like Valoran and Dota and Counter Strike, the way that you log in is to just kind of like, okay, log in with Google and then just get into the game straight away, right? It's just less than 10 seconds. I think that's kind of like where we want to be and we don't want to add an additional layer to some of these Web2 gamers who are already very, very impatient.
Yeah, so I think to add on to that, like when you get into a game, we don't really hit you with a strainer with a login screen. So like, you know, anyone can just get into the game without even signing up and account.
So I think that's the way we try and on-board Web2 users. And then eventually you might have some notifications that say, hey, if you integrate your account with your wallet, these are the additional features you can get. So why not try that out?
Right, it's that it's that web 2.5 perspective, right, and lens and you know, I think kind of helping people. So first of all, the educational component, I love that, right, that's super critical to make things very, very clear and and and legible, right, so people understand what that
and it's also important for us, again, I think let's call it insiders or at least users, right? Existing people in the Web 3 ecosystem to realize that most people don't want to go through that entire life cycle, definitely not at once, right? So I think a lot of people
allowing them to your point, right, that two factor authentication or single sign on using Google or using a social channel initially, or we've been doing with Poop Shadow to MG who built the Algo Poop. We've been doing local storage initially that's password protected.
and then really giving people that opportunity and also the incentive down the road or with the call to action, the reminder that if you really want to take this to the next level, you can export that NFT and put it in a self-custodyed wallet. But I think that phased approach is really key.
Amazing conversation guys, love it. If I may jump in real quick, I just have a question that I must ask and for all of you that are listening to us, I have listened to previous series faces, know that this question is always coming. So maybe starting with the rewind team, what does "own chain usage mean for protocol?" What does a wall
What kind of data is saved on chain, both in phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone, phone#
So basically for now we have authentication through wallet and email. I think right now like the data, the data, the
data that we have stored from the actual NFTs is on IPFS. We are looking to transition to our wave storage because on chain we can actually store big stuff
like music videos or like two or three minute songs. So yes, I think for now that's all we're using it for and of course for the transaction side of things too.
Fantastic thanks guys, it's a bother.
Yeah, so go ahead then sorry. Yeah, so I think the usage of the algorithm blockchain is mostly for NFTs. You're so planned to
We are trying to solve the cheating issue currently, so we can't really stop scores yet.
Yeah, so we are making it self-costodial. So like you can go to our website and then sign in using is using wallet connect so you just scan the QR code and then you
sign in. You'll take you to a parallel wallet and you'll just like the account you're signing with. Same for us. Yeah. And that's this guys. Thanks. I shall mirror off to you again.
I guess I'm curious to hear about the challenges that you face. You're in a very interesting stage of the company's life cycle phase. You both, as far as I understand, about to deploy a product.
You know you've gone out there you've talked to investors you've talked to customers right you've done your discovery Going forward what I mean even just thinking of the upcoming year right what are what are some of the challenges you're seeing or you're expecting
and how are you open to deal with them? I'll even put on top of that. Is there any call to action that you have for the people listening to this that might be able to help you with some of these challenges?
And we can, let's start with, let's start with there's a Bava team right now and then go on everyone.
Right, sure. So I think for us, what we want to figure out, I think this year is definitely the main challenge is just churn. I think we want to see how do we actually retain some of the users. I think that's kind of like people say that, oh, do they like the game? Do they actually love it?
So I think that's kind of like an issue for a lot of games nowadays, especially in Web 3. So you want to kind of figure out how to actually retain this user's, how do we make them come back for more. So I think you got to make it stick right? Yeah, you have to create a sticky the life experience right that makes them not only want to come
back but tell their friends about it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's pretty kind of like for games, I think like we want to make it viral. We want to make sure that, you know, people come back not because it's built on Algorand. We want to make them come back because it's a really fun game that they can play with their friends. And then you have all these ideas.
Blockchain technology with NFTs, with progression and all that that helps them stick to it. And I think that the other, of course with Algrang, of course, we want to get all the users.
to try out the platform. I think that's kind of like the call to action right now. We want all the users whether that be gaming, whether that defied to come and try it out and give us feedback. I think we really need that. And then of course if we can get the web to users, which is probably the
the bigger the next billion kind of like gamers that are coming in i think that will be the next step but of course step by step let's start with algaran but at the same time if there are other gaming communities that will look would like to try us out i think we are very excited for that too 100% 100%
Yeah, you may want to take a page out of the zone playbook. I'm sure PG could elaborate a little bit on that one. But anyway, same question to the rewind folks Carlos, Lorenzo challenges. Yeah, so I think the biggest challenge is going to be convincing musicians to come
to go against it. We have the federal programs. So basically we have strategic people like musicians that are bringing their community and their musicians and the people that they know, the term musicians and are recruiting. They are like
all over the places, we have them some in the US, some in Italy, Romania, UK and Brazil. I think that's the biggest problem that we're going to face, but the call to action is to just follow us.
Stay tuned we are launching soon and waiting to hear your feedback and if you know any musicians just join them show them rewind Love it just as a friendly reminder that I am based out of Brazil right to helping you guys do anything just hit me up. Did you back at ya?
Yeah, I want to double down on this one and talk to this about the team yesterday, and they're planning something around competitions and guilds and ways. Because it's not just a matter of board users, it's a matter of retained them.
This is like a big issue overall across crypto. There's a lot of different types of incentives that we've seen throughout the years. Think of things like air drops and widely seen and whatnot.
those things enable pretty predatory dynamics where people just interact for the air drop and then leave and they don't stick around. That's part of gamifying an experience and make sure that people
to stick around. So question to this above a team. Can you guys talk a little bit more about like what you have in plan for like, you know, competitions and you know, gills, we talked a little bit about that yesterday. So I love for you guys to share this with the audience because I think it's pretty cool.
Yeah, I think I, I think I can just like give a rough overview of our roadmap and some of the stuff that will happen. I think the the one that we discussed with BG was the kind of leaderboard or a clan kind of faction.
where you want to put like Algoena against all these other, I didn't have to just be Algoena, it's like super super super Algo, Tiger Chi, Penguin Labs, so all these big NFT projects what we want to do is then
that once you get it and you are able to kind of like collate and collect points as a clan and then you kind of be able to compete with other clans and then we kind of have, it could be a monthly or biocleanly kind of leaderboard where okay let's see with
which actually is the best or the biggest most active NFT community out there. So that's in the pipeline right now, which is one that, you know, Dan is working on. Dan, you want to speak a bit on that, like the tech side if you want.
Yeah, sure. Yeah, so you're basically using your NFTs as a form of identity right? You know, so that you can compete. Your NFTs are your guilds. So you can compete against other people and maybe they'll incentivize people to
to buy different types of NFTs because they want to join different guilds. Hopefully over time we get to see which NFTs are the most active. Like maybe certain NFTs groups are like games
any particular type of games right I think it's also a good way to engage with like the different gaming projects so that maybe you don't need to have a particular NFT just to play a game
Yeah, so I think on top of that, I think that is probably the first kind of like feature that we have and then I think we're also hiring a few people to kind of like aggressively build the product as well. So you know, stay tuned for
like, you know, gated content, play generated mods and assets, educational partnerships, and I think even like play a room, so you know, something maybe you guys have seen in some of the more popular recent games like Bondy as well.
Thanks guys. Alright, well first of all just a reminder to the algorithm that's listening to us live right now. If you have any questions for the Zabavite or for the rewind just hit the mic request button. It's going to be a pleasure to bring it to speakerboard to ask them your questions directly.
And well teams, you know, Beijing gave a very friendly reminder that the United States is that demo days coming up soon, right? So I want to ask you both and maybe we can start with the rewind this time is what are you planning to have ready for demo day? What are you going to be showcasing demo days?
Yes, for demo day we are presenting our piece deck and telling our story to investors and showing them some screens on how the platform is going to
look and making a video where we show them basically the user interface and how it works.
Fantastic, thank you. It's a bobble.
Yeah, for us, I think we, I think given the time that we're given, we will do the pitch, of course, and then show some of the product roadmap that we have and also the traction. I think that's probably an important metric for the investors and then kind of like the ecosystem to see.
I think specifically with our regional expansion in Indonesia, it will be very, very nice to let the community know all the investors know what we've been doing on that. And then of course, for the show move product, you guys can try it out right now. It's live, join our Discord and I'll
telegram and just give more feedback on that and we will eat it on it. Fantastic and just following up to you and then I go back to rewind what like how is the the technological development as of now in terms of let's say like this mark contracts are you guys already built on smart contracts is it is it done is it going to be ordered or not what's the status of those
I think I've done the basic framework for the smart contracts, but we haven't actually deployed it yet because we have to solve the
cheating issue for games. So we are still exploring how to do that. By in terms of like you know upgrading our characters using the ERC 19 NFTs are up done that already.
Power smart contracts are ready. We are just polishing the user interface, some front end fixes and screens.
And that's it. Thanks. Seems appreciated. Shamir Pigi. I am already lost. I don't know who started it now. I think it's Shamir's.
What to ask a question? I can always ask a question. I mean, I guess I'm like again, we could go back into a little bit about your journey, but I'm kind of curious about, I'm seeing some familiar faces in the chat,
definitely from within the ecosystem, but a lot of non-familiar faces also, and Twitter users. I'm curious about what advice would you give either young entrepreneurs or maybe established entrepreneurs that are exploring
web3, blockchain, and algorithms specifically. Is there any kind of words of advice or insights that you might have that they would find valuable? That you've learned throughout your journey? Let's start with Zababa.
Sure. I think personally, I think the one thing that kind of helped me out is to try to, I think if you're a dev specifically, you should kind of try to join hackathons and some of these stuff that are happening, I think just explore all the lia1.
try to find out something that you like, something a community that you can tie with, maybe a few friends that you want to build a product with. And then, you know, if you're not a dev, I think there's always things that you can do, I think it could, if you're like native in a country like Indonesia or Malaysia, there's always people looking for translated
this local community build this and all that and it can always help out with that. But I think the most important part is just showing interest, showing enthusiasm, being present, just trying to solve a problem, start small, approach some of the local champions or local builders that are there in your country.
country and then try it out. Give it a week, give it a month, see if there's a problem or something local to your community that you want to solve and bring it up. Just keep asking for feedback and not just shy away from like or just keep it yourself. I think that's probably one important thing as well.
The assigned with every in that mat said another thing I would like to add is just get started in terms of a startup for example. The big problem for us beginning was to create a team and within an hour to
start but through networking and meeting people we built a team from people that worked in the past and you know like I told the mother about the project they loved it so they joined and here we are.
No, you guys I have a quick question for this above a team. You guys are very focused on on Southeast Asia and it was just wondering you know, it seems to be like a pretty pretty crucial You know market overall and also like a good a good market to start from
from to get a good traction and then to scale up. Could you talk a little bit more about that? And also, you know, for I've never been to Asia overall on my own. So I love to get your insights on, you know, that type of community and, you know, ways that you're planning to engage with them.
Yeah, sure. So I think for us, we, I think more than half of the team can speak Bahasa. So Indonesia is definitely a core focus for us. We of course, Vietnam, Thailand, these are all kind of like where we want to be as well. But Indonesia is the main focus, I think.
I think, I mean, fun fact, I'm also in Jakarta right now meeting with a few partners and other friends to see if we can set up something over here. But I think for Indonesia, I think I kind of said it also, there's like a gap in education. I think a lot of people
here, they don't know Elgorand, they need not only the tutorials, but apparently they prefer videos. They want to see their own videos in their native language, and that's what will help them
get unborted. So I think education is a big obstacle here in Indonesia. I think the other thing is, I guess there's a lot of speculation people are here to make money. I guess it's very early stages. So there's a lot of infrastructure problems that are here as well that we want to
see and do some market research on. I think for so move definitely to make it even easier for them, we might need to be able to solve some of these primitives that are already maybe it's not existing right now, some of the tooling, some of the infra. So we might want to have a look at that.
that makes sense to build a smaller product for that. But I think game wise, we can see mobile is definitely the way to go for Indonesia. People like to play, I think the biggest ones are mobile legends and Genshin Impact, which are the two biggest communities here.
But I think Algorand definitely because it's so early, so new. I don't think there's any project on Algorand on Indonesia right now. The last time I spoke with some of the folks there, so it's interesting to be the first and hopefully we can scale up from there.
That is beautiful. Amazing. And maybe I can repurpose the same question to Carlos and Tim. What are the geographic areas that you guys are targeting strategically?
If so, maybe you're just planning a whole world out. So yeah, well, if you could talk a little bit about your plans on that side, that'd be great.
Yes, sure. So our first like target to have some users on the platform are going to be DJs because they already buy digital music but not as NFTs that's going to be new but they already
in average they spend $600 on music to play at the digit sets. Then we are targeting electronic music and indie music because through market research we found that it's the most independent. So it's easier to onboard.
They are like less attached labels or they have independent labels or the long labels and then geographically we have we have been in contact with four labels in Italy and we have a big community
from Romania, the electronic music center is very very big. The Indici and the alternative rock in the UK, we have contacts there and then we have a pop artist from Brazil that she's recruiting over there too.
Yeah, I want to do a younger. Yeah, yeah, it definitely sounds like you've done some research there. And you know, one thing I was just going to say that sounds really correct from a strategic as a strategic approach is to really tap into an audience of creators who have fans.
right and they're kind of that liaison. So once you have them and they bring even if they bring just a fraction, right, of the people who follow them and work with them and by their latest record or you know, go see their shows, like that is definitely an effective way to tap into the end consumer.
Thanks, Shamir. Alrighty, I got another question for the team. So maybe we can start with rewind this time. What is your roadmap look like for the next few months in terms of releases, launches, community activities, build-ups and all of that? Just curious to see what you're going to be releasing over the next couple of months.
Yes, so in the next month we are up into lunch with a lunch at the and the marketplace. And in the biggest updates are going to be apart from the magically integration and the stripe that I was talking earlier.
are going to be also the implementation of social features to make the platform more usable and more interactive for them with implementation of AI as I said before I have experienced in that word so that's I want to bring AI on rewind through
Then we have partnered with NIFCHA to do live streams over there of concerts or interviews for musicians' communities and implementation of social tokens to have
musicians like create the social token and engage and monetize and give back to the communities. Fantastic. And just to confirm by launch you mean going directly to Maynet, right? Are you going to have any test that period?
Yes, we are in Testnet, but I mean, launch in Maynet. Yes. Fantastic. Thank you. So Bob, same question to you. We wrote back for the next few months.
Yeah, I think for us, definitely the Indonesian community building, I think that's called a core focus. Definitely on the tech side, the leaderboard thing, I think we want to really want to onboard other NFT projects and join us. I think we've started with five.
I've got 5 close friends, people who mentored us, especially Algo Anna, Super Algo, Tiger Chi, Penguin, and we got one more. But yeah, we started with 5, but hopefully in the next month we're gonna onboard 5 to 10 more as well.
from there and see, you know, organized competitions around it, making sure that we can also allocate enough resources to kind of make sure it's fun and enjoyable. And then on the Indonesian fund, I think we are still kind of hiring a few people as well. So, you know, if you guys know any tools
or 3D artis that would kind of like to try or join like a really exciting opportunity in Zababa, you know, let us know. And then of course we have ongoing like partnerships and co-organizing events with other projects as well. So for example,
You know, Twitter spaces with niff gen that's happening every week to talk about different projects and then co-organizing offline events in Indonesia itself, so specifically in Jakarta and Bandong. So yeah, stay tuned for those kind of exciting stuff.
Yeah, I think we also want to have our Genesis NFT sales. So you have the base character that you know you can upgrade in the future and then exploring several game infrastructure tools that other people can use like the leaderboards one.
Fantastic team, thank you very much for sharing, I just want to do one last invite for the Ogle fam that's listening to us live right now. If you have any questions you want to ask either the rewind team or the Zababa Labs, just hit the mic request button, right? Shemir, you got something?
No, I mean I was going to tell all the live listeners we want this to be conversational. So you know open invite, you know, and we definitely want to hear from anyone who has anything to say or ask. I did I did want to to the previous point regarding rewind and Zababa, you know, and local events and NFT drops and
things like that to really, you know, this is an open invitation to reach out to us at the foundation side when you have things like that planned so that, you know, for the right projects, for the right announcements, for the right initiatives, we would gladly amplify, you know, those
those different activities. And from an events perspective, right, we're also happy to create a lot of synergy. So a couple of examples are, I know, Drawn, our head of NFT initiatives is she actually just got into Paris for NFT Paris, where X market are doing an activation.
next month we have a Paris blockchain week and then in April there will be NFT and YC where we're going to have a large activation with folks from Parawolid and rent gallery and many others. So you know this ecosystem is you. It's everyone right?
that are, it's all the different builders and I just want to kind of put it out there that as you plan these milestones as you start executing, please keep us in the know, right, so that we can kind of plan accordingly and support where you might have gaps and just help amplify.
100% Shamir, we're here for you, AlbuFan.
BG, you got anything else in your mind?
No, I think Shameer nailed it. Just a guess, you know, just an extra invitation for the audience to follow these amazing teams getting involved, join their Discord, follow them on Twitter. You know, reach out to them if you have a specific Skype, specific call to
I'm not sure if you have any questions on the product. Good luck guys for demo days. I guess the last words are to you Fred, thanks for organizing this
amazing spaces. King Fred, thank you. Thanks guys. Well, you know, we're close to the end of our 2D spaces today. So as always, of course, I want to give you know, the last chance for rewind is above, just to share everything they want to share with the community. There's a lot of people listening to us, like we're
now but even more people are going to catch the recording over the next couple of days and weeks. So you know if there's anything that you definitely want to share with the other family that we didn't get a chance to ask you today even though myself, Shamir PGS lost the questions. Feel free guys so maybe we can start with rewind some parting words before I wrap up for the day.
Yeah, I think just to stay tuned wait the next month we will learn soon and we are like waiting to hear your feedback and what do you like about
the platform, but as to change, and if you have any musicians in your network or you are a musician, just open your eyes and join embrace the music revolution.
Yeah, I think for us, yes, stay tuned for that leaderboard update. But we always call, we always call organizing events and even like our own events like stickers competition, dance competition. So come and join us as always a chance to win. Elgos and some NFTs from our partnering projects. But yeah,
just come in, join us, give us some feedback. But besides that, I just want to give a shout out to all the supporters, everyone who's been there for us, Elrond Foundation, specifically PG. He's been helping us from the start. And hopefully we can grow and scale to the next level in the next few months.
I also want to thank the whole team at Algorand Accelerate for helping us put together and organize this. Of course, for mentoring this amazing startup there, you know, going to be the next phases of the Algorand growth. So I really appreciate everything that Algorand Accelerate has been doing for us. And of course, you know,
So maybe rewind is above you can do one less turn just saying where else people can find information about you with the exception of your Twitter of course, but yeah, I will then follow rewind and follow the above right now So rewind if you if you can share just whatever other social channels. Yeah
First, thanks for having us and you can find us also on Instagram at rewindmusicxbg. Thank you.
Yeah, for us, I think go to our profile. I think there's all the relevant links, the link tree to all our projects. But yeah, we also have a separate Twitter account for our so move. So look at that as well. And then yeah, we are always open, I think myself and
and we'll really passionate about the space so open to call labs, open them to explore new products. Go ahead. Fantastic. So, Olga, fam, you know what to do. Follow rewind right now, follow Zabava right now and Shamir to you.
I just wanted to thank everyone for joining and especially you Fred really really appreciate you pushing these things forward and everything you do in the ecosystem Much much appreciated much love my brothers My pleasure, but you guys are all the rock stars you guys all make my life so easy
- All right. (laughs) Shamir Piji, thank you so much. It's above a rewind. A pleasure meeting you both here today. You know, can I wait for the next time? Can we get again? And I'll go fan. Thank you very much. Have a great day. See you everyone. Cheers. - Bye everyone. - Thanks for having us. - Thank you. - Bye, thank you.