Good morning everybody we're gonna give it a couple minutes let everybody trickle in here before we get started I know John and Jess are you joined us so we're ready to rock just gonna let everybody come on in
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get this thing started good morning everybody or good evening depending on where you're at I know for John John what time is it for you. Hey hot last four in the afternoon. Good night. You already started drinking that. It started earlier. It started way earlier. It looks right. Yeah. Where are you at right now?
I'm doubling Ireland thankfully back from Austin, Texas because the time zone wasn't agreeing with my body. So glad I'm sure. And Jess, you there where you were currently located out in the Bay Area and no, we should we should not
be drinking now. It's 8 a.m. Okay, you judge people. I won't judge people. Okay, we'll do it how we want, right? Again, it's good to hear from you guys. I got Josh here with me. What's up guys? It was really good to see you guys and meet you
you guys in Austin. I think some of this is now we're like co-mingling, you know, some of our followers with, and then people who are new to Algrant. So I'd love for you guys to kind of go in real briefly about your backgrounds because they're pretty insane.
And then also just kind of talk about where Algrans headed and then we'll probably talk a little bit about book and then we'll kind of talk about like some of our our future plans together So John you want to start us off and just kind of give us your background and and how you ended up at Algrans. That would be awesome
Yes, sure. So I'm John Woods at CTO, I'm the CTO of the Algrant Foundation. Prior to that, I had the privilege of working on Cardano with Charles Hoskinson and the team over at IOHK or IOG, where I was the lead architect and also led at a plot cryptography there. And then previously in terms of, you know, cryptocurrency related experience,
I worked as an architect, I'm an applied cryptographer at consensus, which is an Ethereum focused blockchain studio. So yeah, it's been kind of, you know, an interesting career I've had, I guess in computer science, Fintech, and then, you know, towards the latter half of my career, working in software architecture, specifically around Ethereum, then Cardano, which was super fun because the team over
they're incredibly gifted. And then finally, on Algorand, which has just been a fantastic experience and learning a lot. So yeah, it's been good. And maybe over to Jessica's. Yeah, happy to jump in. So, well, John is like deep expert and has become a great friend in the space. My background is more in big tech, so I started out.
I was really helping them think through their retail and online expansion strategy in Asia. From there, Joanne Nike, where I was really helping them think through their global digital strategy as well as really, there were early explorations around how we profit share revenue shares are very like Web 3 kind of principles.
really bring that through to our athletes and creators. And then from there, most recently I've been at WhatsApp, specifically at Meta, really thinking about our privacy narratives, really owning the Metaverse strategy, and really launching our first few global brand systems and brand campaigns. So it's been really great.
Coming to Algrin, it's also like, John, I've learned a ton. It's only been three and a half months, but meeting the team, the team's been amazing, and I'm just really, really, really thrilled. I feel like Algrin specifically, again, yes, best tech, best of cost tech, but also I think the people in the ecosystem itself,
There's so much I think potential that is being fulfilled and really said it talk more about it. Yeah, so John how long have you been in Alguran then when did you make the move? Yeah, about 10 months ago, so just kind of coming up on a year or so and next couple of months. Yeah, five years in crypto to move. Yeah, that's like
Seven years in crypto time. I know you guys have big plans over there. If you guys wouldn't mind kind of sharing, like your vision and where Al grand is going, that would be awesome. I think again, a lot of people here, obviously I see a lot of Al go fam on here, but I know there's a lot of people from the Cardano community too.
Yeah, sure, maybe I'll just kind of jump in from the tech side real quickly So I would say Algorand as a protocol is in pretty great shape I won't kind of bang on and chill it too hard to the crowd, but you know It is decentralized that is secure and it is resilient. It's you know, it's got decent uptime. It's never had any downtime. I guess I
I don't love saying that though because of course all computer systems end up having downtime at some point I always have experienced but so far algorithms had no downtime. It scales out really well so you know the the finality on the blockchains three and a half seconds and so that means if you do it if you send a transaction it's done within three and a half seconds and the blocks can take around
6.5,000 transactions every second. And so one of the things as well that's quite important here is that due to this V or F cryptographic primitive we use at the heart of consensus, we're able to have a very green block chain that's in production or in main net using about 80 kilowatts of instantaneous energy. So this is like a
charging Tesla in terms of its energy use. A single Tesla at that. But also it permits a consensus mechanism that is, ensures that agreement across the network is reached with 100% of the participants on every block. And so this means that you don't have
block reorgs or block height battles. And so this gives a great user experience. So you never have to worry about transaction orchestration or transaction replay. And so, you know, separate to those kind of those tech virtues, I would just say that the focus over the coming a couple of years is really going to be on interoperability using
So that liquidity is shared across the various great cryptocurrency projects that are out there. The user experience, so giving users a fantastic end user experience so that they're not waiting on transactions to go through so that developers have a great framework to build apps so they're using a lot of different applications.
languages they enjoy using and everything is very simple and straightforward when you're building applications. And then I guess, you know, finally, focusing on the protocol and bringing that forward, adding things like post quantum security and other technical bits and pieces that really secure the network even in the advent of modern
quantum computers. So lots going on, there's going to be improvements to the protocol, but ultimately my main focus is really on that developer user experience. So people have a good time building their apps on the decentralized operating system that is alcohol. Just you want to jump in there and just kind of talk from the marketing side like where you guys are headed and what you want the Al grand brand to become.
Yeah, definitely. John though, I will say first and foremost, like being locked up with John and his team. We are really excited because we were able to launch our first like first campaign really around Algo Kit. Speaking to that build easy, build fast and really, I think going against a lot of the narratives around like being hard to build.
but actually really seeing like innovation and and seamlessness and effective effective building opportunities on all grinds. So really excited about that. I would say just like as a whole strategically, I think first and foremost, is really defining and differentiating all grind as a brand and really involving and bringing
with us, the community, to really establish like, why is Al-Gran superior from a technical perspective, but also like, what do we stand for as a brand? And what are the spaces and industries that we really continue on a land so that people understand like, this is where I should build, this is why it's superior and this is why I should build here? And so I think that that is an incredible opportunity
around building that out. I think we'll be revealing and sharing in a couple of weeks just really around like what, like how do we all start using the same narrative and really talking the same way about why Algorand is superior and also why people should build here. And so I think secondly to that is really around growing our key
audiences in our key markets. And so for folks who haven't been following India has been just an incredible market. I've done some marketing in that space for years, but really for Algrant, like seeing the number of developers and those who are in the growth and the partnerships, again, our T-Hub partnership there has really opened a lot of
doors specifically in India, which is like again, we'll be beating China very soon from a population standpoint as well as the Latam, lots of focus in these growth markets, and then of course in May and US. But again, I think this idea of like really being global and having global impact and scale, specifically with developers, retail
users and then of course like how we really change narrative in those spaces as well with press and with media and then also with with investors. And then finally I would say it really is the idea of like showcasing and demonstrating the power of our amazing ecosystem projects. And so doing that through
like buzzwordy moments and buzzwordy content. I think this is a great example. This partnership with book is a great example of how do we, the fact that we dropped 10,000, like 10,000 Brave New Worlds at consensus, I think it's an incredible kind of real world utility and real world, again people talk a lot about world assets, but how do we do it in a way that people actually
care about it and really see meaningful value. And so really demonstrating that and doing more driving brand awareness for our ecosystem projects and coming alongside them is something we're really passionate about and have really started to work across the ecosystem with several really meaningful projects to do that. Yeah I think for everybody here too, like
Obviously, when we decided to go multi-chain and then we started talking to John and that led us to Jess, I can't speak highly enough of the whole Algo team because really we were under a very tight timeline at that time. Okay, we're going to give away 10,000 books. We have to purchase the books. We have to create this redemption.
process that uses Zip Zero Crypto. It was very much John helping us and giving access to their dev team to help us. Things that usually took seven hours, took 30 minutes. Then Jess and I talking
a lot on how we actually make this happen so for everybody out there who doesn't see the behind the scene stuff like we had I don't know like four weeks really right like we were mad but no like four weeks and you know just printing those cards that they came on was like man can we get this done in like seven days so yeah I mean we just
generated the codes for redemption before we actually built anything. We were very happy that it worked. But again, for all of you that have been following us from the book side, right? So I guess, you know, once you tell everybody about book real quick, just our background so that some of the Algo people
or a new year, have a little bit of an idea of where we came from and where we're headed. Yeah, for sure. We approach the space slightly differently than in digital publishing for a long time, like over 10, 15 years, most specifically in the ebook space.
Approached NFTs is quite a bit different than publicly viewable stuff. So everything that we create is like fully decentralized assets. So the entire book lives on chain and then we use it and it's not just like a centralized token gated access to see that file all
the contents exist, decentralized, and then all that streams into a reader. I think future stuff that we're working on, Mike, we're really close on the audio book side, and that's opening up all our potential for music as well. We've done some video and some of our assets too.
So it's a different approach than just saying we're going to sell 10,000 pictures of something and run a Discord channel. It's really creating a platform and working with chains like Algorand where creators have a choice to pick exactly where they want to deploy their
their content to. And having that, our final result was much more mass market view of getting out. This is maybe partly a question for Jess to where we were in the book space previously. The book space is just so much more massive than crypto. And so when we look at the crypto space, and there's 80, 85
million total wallets, right? And that's not even like users because I know I probably have like 100 wallets myself. The book space being like a real true like mass market space, it's just like over a billion people a year by digital books. And so sort of our initial thesis was, you know, how do we use blockchain as infrastructure?
So that we can deliver the feature set and the benefits of owning an asset on chain such that the end user doesn't really have to know or be conscious or interact with directly with a blockchain or understand crypto currency or wallet. So the real benefit in our
you know, a particular vertical is, you know, if you buy a book today, you know, or an audible or something from Kindle, you're stuck with that on your bookshelf forever. You can never do anything with it. Basically, after you've purchased it, it's, you know, it's there, and, you know, there's no additional value to you. You know, after you read it, it's just stuck there. So,#
We can use blockchain obviously to change that so that is an actual digital asset once you're done reading it and you can you could sell it and that opens up like you know collectible side as well as just you know mass market side of you know I'm done reading this and I can sell it and go by my next book and so on and so forth so you know the creator side is great benefit of course because I
that it pays royalties back to those creators and they can participate in that, just like all the artists have on the image-based side. So I think our goal, and really looking at Algarand too, is just like, we want something faster, we don't want to deploy stuff and see network usage.
max out we want cost to be low because it's better for end users from a mass market perspective. Once we get to the point where I just have a friend structure inside of my account and I can send a book and I can share a book with Ben or something with Jess. I don't want to end user for one
like we want to make it just like simplistic and like honestly like we want we want it in such a way that we can cover those costs easily so I could just send my book over there's no like transactional like thing that occurs or cost to me is like as the person who owns that book I can just give it to somebody else. You know Josh I would actually just build
than what you're saying. As I said to you in person when we were in Austin together, the two things that you guys have done that's just incredible, your book that I owe has done that's incredible, is number one, delivered all this with a decentralized, truly decentralized backend, but doing so in a way that gives users a web too if you want to call it that
that or regular experience that they're used to. Everything's slick, it's on the app store, you know, it's easy to download, it feels native on your phone. And so the whole feeling of using the product feels like what you're used to from a Web2 environment, but of course you're benefiting from the decentralization. And the second thing, and this is really important,
is that lots of projects that we have across all these various chains that are out there, they regularly try to have an impactful angle on the product. People know that some of the value proposition of blockchain is self-sabreety,
and truth to people in countries that normally can't access that truth or knowledge because ultimately their governments or whoever's in charge has decided to ban that information. And ultimately I really see a book that I owe is not just a cool product but also something that's having real impact to people's lives.
Yeah, you know, we talk about that a lot honestly, you know, we talk about like in our first part of our mission is decentralized knowledge right obviously You know, we sell books we have to have gas in the tank to make that happen right but the overall goal here right is doing something important right because we hear it all the time where there's like
books can't move here, books can't move here, even some of our print partners who can't get books someplace because it's too expensive. Like we look at it from our view, where it's like, hey if we move 10,000 brave new worlds on Algorand. Which is a band book? Right, which is a band book, right? Across the world, right? Like number one, you can't stop it. Like, what
what we talk about is unstoppable knowledge and how important that is. Mostly at a time where they're straight up changing people's books on their bookshelves, which is so crazy the idea of like something, something that like walks into your house and rips out a couple pages of a book. So I think that was part of the reason, again,
We are very selective when we go multi-chain, right? And very selective in who we want to work with. I think one of the questions is who's next. So we have no plans right now to go to another chain. We are too busy building stuff. So we have a hard stop in 10 minutes.
So if you have a question and you want to raise your hand, but while we're waiting for people to raise their hand, I wanted to ask Jess something kind of in that vein, right? Going from like Web 2 to Web 3, like, I guess, you know, you have, it's apparent why, you know, John's here sucked into the crypto side like we are. But with your
background being like these larger marketing positions, these massive massive tech companies, I just want to get your insight on what you saw, why you made the jump, right, to go from working at Meta and Nike and Apple to, hey, I'm going to go to this
you know, relatively new, right, in terms of crypto space, blockchain, and just like that jump from, you know, just sort of that transition, like, you know, really the why, right? Like, why I'll go. Yeah, I can definitely speak to the broader, like, blockchain space. I think bleeding edge technologies
something I am very fascinated with and I think particularly what brought me in was just a few friends who are building just really meaningful solutions in this space. And I think Algorand uniquely positioned to think about like real world problems at scale and specifically their tech being like very unique and being able to have everything you need in a layer one.
to have like instant and transparent like like finality, things that we know that institutions that enterprises truly care about and knowing that this next wave scale is really gonna matter a ton. And so I was really excited and thrilled like thinking imagine about like when the next, because I do think like Facebook let's be honest
And also, I think in a lot of ways, the revenue model came after. And the revenue model came like fitted on after they had those users in terms of advertising and taking from taking that data from those users, right? So I think for me felt like there was a really fresh opportunity to relook at the end of the video.
Internet as a whole, embedded with creating opportunities of true revenue streams for users. I think that's really where the interest kind of began. And then I think just specifically to book, I think what gets me really excited is that I think all these publishers and just
in general, like retailers, you name it like, they're all looking for new fresh forms of revenue streams. And I think, and also new ways to engage with their consumers are engaged with their, like you can call them fan clubs, etc. And I think, I think people haven't really understood the power and opportunity of what the blockchain
I think part of it is a lot of the barriers around UXY. We've had a lot of dreams that have been around this space of what could be, but I don't think the tech has really caught up fully to that. When I say tech, I don't mean just the protocols, but really tech from a UXY.
from all the things that a consumer will need to onboard seamlessly. And so I think we're finally getting there. I think again, this is a long road to build, but it really felt like the opportunity the upside, especially here was tremendous. And so I think book again is a really great example of reaching that next Web2Going users.
me. We lost you for a second, Jess, you still there? Yeah, I'm here. You hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I know, okay, I know Jess has already stopped in five minutes. I think we can dive in a little bit still with John, but I know we already have somebody about to ask question. I think it's, I re-creations. You got a question for us?
I think you have a question or should anybody else have a question raise your hand? I know Jess again has like five more minutes. There you are.
How you doing? How's it going? Get in here. All right, I'm going to jump over to Pyro.
Alright Pyro, you're up. What's up, man? How are you?
Hey team what's up? I heard through this whole conversation that you're gonna have audiobooks TbD. Is it soon TM or is it like a month or two? So We get the win question
and all the time every day, all day. And so like I try not to do that because like my CTO is listening and I don't want to come in here and throw like a hot latte in my face. So we are working on it. It's we have a number of priorities. We are extremely busy. So things are shifting around. I can tell you this though, like we have already seen
audio on testnet. So seeing audio and testnet, we've loaded up podcast like 62 minutes long. You can scrub through them. It's pretty amazing. So the tech is there. We're just building it out. There's a lot to build, whether it's on Algrant or whatever.
building the text so we can sell books on Al Grant. So there's a lot of things, you know, we were hustling our assets off to get ready for consensus and before that was London Book Fair. So lots of things, all that being said is like as audiobooks are coming, we're also just determining to like what is going to be the first audiobook. We have signed one of the
So one of the more premier publishers in the audiobook space too, we actually already have them in contract. So. Good question. Anybody else have any questions? Raise your hand or request to speak. Again, Jess has got a bounce in like four minutes, I believe.
I will say one thing just about meeting the book die. It was incredibly, I think it's really cool to see the technical speed of which you guys work. To the point of audio being on, I think something like that takes months and
months and months to build. And I think the fact that you guys can turn these things around. So quickly and thoughtfully and again, even like solving some of the codes to drop at consensus, I just wanted to speak to like the efficiency speed and also really thoughtfulness from a consumer experience perspective that was really impressive, even for my Web 2 days. Yeah, and shout out to Orjay.
your king of tech he's an amazing person. He's great. Yeah. Yeah. I know you guys like to like to hang out and I think there's a budding bromance happening there so we're happy to help help Kindle that for you guys. Also there's also the other side of this too I think what's important to
to understand is like a lot of our audios, obviously we're getting to audio books. So the other side of that will go to our sister company which is stuff.io. So when we talk about audio and music that won't be on book obviously like audio books will be on book but stuff.io will be the house for music and video moving forward.
Dishon, I think you're out, man. All right. Thank you. I was listening to it, plus I was cooking breakfast. I was here everything. But so my question was the books will be when we do buy them, we can retain those the asset directly in our wallet.
and we'll be able to sell it on the other outgrown exchanges if possible. My other question was I didn't quite like I said here the whole thing. So this NFT would allow us to actually read the book, like we click on it, it'll be all the like the pages there or exactly how is that gonna be. I'm just curious.
Yeah, I mean, the whole assets decentralized. So you know, you can click it, you can read it, you can go get our apps on both iOS and Android. And you can sell it on, you know, any of the second party, third party. Yeah, you can go to and go sell it. So I think
even with Brave New World, I think last time I looked was like, I think the floor price is like $50 USD or something like that. So I think what we've seen over the last week too, since we got back from consensus is that process that we created was zero crypto knowledge.
So I mean I've literally watched people over 70 get their first digital asset because all they had to do was create an account. Now for us crypto nerds we can dive in deep. We can go get our seed phrase. You can take that book wherever you want. It is yours. Right. Like that is the primary mission here is the decentralized
books, right, so that you can own them. We can't take them away from you and they live on forever and ever. So, but yeah, you know, go to Rand Geller, you can find Brave New World or go to our Discord, try to talk somebody into giving you one, but it's a pretty easy process. And it just has to bounce together, closing words, just.
Now I'm just like incredibly excited. I think as we said before, this is like truly just the beginning when it comes to like books that matter, books that that I think again a billion users can care about and it's one thing that
is incredibly meaningful and again, all-grant is just that like ideally invisible layer that really empowers and enables people to get access to the things and places they love. So yeah, I'm really really excited about all the things that we'll be announcing this year together.
I appreciate your time today. I'm sure I'll talk to you soon. Thanks guys.
Um, you stay in on John? Yeah, yeah, I can stay for another 10 minutes or so. Yeah, okay. I was just going to make sure. Um, let's see if anybody else has any questions. I think now that any nerdy technical questions are down. Yeah, super nerdy technical questions. Anything. I'm sure John has an opinion on it.
I can't believe a brave new world is a 50 bucks floor price like I think I've got like three of those I was going around Trying to pick them up whenever I've seen them. So basically I'm flush now. That's nice So what I might do is I might I might I might give one away on Twitter actually because I think I've got a couple of spares
but you know it's just super super cool. And by the way did you tell me I don't like we talked about it that like when you buy a book right with book.io I mean I think I'm speaking correctly here. Yes you get an NFT that kind of represents your unique copy of the book but don't you also have this kind of like AI generated cover art thing is that is that a thing that's generally available?
Yeah, you know, I think for like Brave New World we had 500 different covers up those are spread across 10,000 units So there's a rare chart with everything right so I think you know, I think the high sale so far was like 900 some algo right I don't even know what number that was but I think once we see like the
the one of ones and I think that was book number one through or book number zero through 299. Those are going to really sell for high. Again, this is the first time that people can be digital book collectors. I think it's going to be a fun time to see how this plays out.
Yeah, it's a little bit you know this stable diffusion stuff. It's amazing. You know, you're you're generating unique art for your your users. Sorry. Yeah, over to Tony. Hey, good morning. And then obviously when we get to the point where we can print those books, I'll also right now where and we've seen we have you know, we have those here, right? This idea of
like mint and print is going to be wild. So then it's like you have Brave New World, you have a super rare copy and you're the only person in the world with that print book which is really cool. Anyway Tony Rose, how are you sir? Hey good morning. Yeah I have a question for John and I guess an announcement to make where
minting our foundations of decentralized identity with with book.io on Algorand and giving it out at the McCoy Miami conference. Is there a way to make an NFT gate so that our student reader.io site could allow people to hold the Algorand copy to register for the Pioneer program?
Yeah, absolutely. And depending on how the backend looks for the pioneer program, but absolutely, we've seen a whole bunch of people to do that with do that with the algorithm based NFTs. And so we have a bunch of different standards that can contain various pieces of metadata, I know they're kind of hooks that you can use to use kind of NFTs as kind of a
I'm pretty much passed so yeah 100% awesome cool so I'll probably want to get a little more details because Well, just want to set that up like a really simple like connect your alga wallet See a certain page and and then you can register for the pioneer program. So that'll be very yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah, I think you and I actually have a call
I'm super excited about working with you. Yeah, we love Book I. Oh, and hopefully you guys will mince some of the Dracula brides because I need to expand my clothes. Hey, Tony, do you want to show your multi chain business?
business conference coming up. Oh sure yeah thanks for the opportunity. At Biko Miami we're putting on a it's called Web 3 2023 and it's really designed to bring together people that are building cross-chain. So, books
is minted the Pioneer program book on Algorand. But really it's to start the conversation because the future of Web3's cross chain and the future of Web3 one happens without a better UX. And I believe that identity is a big part of building better UX cross chain. So we're
We're doing a celebrity poker game and actually the Thursday Friday night we have openings for speakers. We have opportunities to to propose panel discussions, panel participants. So hit me up and
If you're going to be there, if you want to collaborate or join or give a talk, it's quite intended to get that conversation going about how do we build better UX? How do we get ready for the next bull run if we're lucky as an industry to have another one?
I just want to point out that's Tony Rose out of product for identity at IHK Building cross chain. I think it's you know, it's going into someone with you know, I know this is an algorithm space but so much Charles's vision of you know multi chain and interoperability and I'd love to see every
everybody on here getting along and building stuff together. It's awesome. Yeah, just give me a follow on Twitter. I posted links to the Web 3 conference and the Algo book and the things we're working on. So just thank you so much for giving me a chance to share that on this call today.
Yeah, for sure, man. Big fan. Uh, news. You're up, man. How are you? Hey, what's going on, everybody? Awesome space. Thanks so much for hosting it up. So many good ideas and projects going forward. It seems like you really hit it out of the park at this year's
and very, very exciting to see. John, hello from all of us here in Cardano, man, we love your work and it's really cool to see platforms like Book kind of keeping the communities together. And I was curious to know if Book or maybe Friends at the Outgrain
and Foundation will be joining us at any of the different live events. We have a rare evo going on at the end of August and it's specifically intended to be cross-chain and I think that you guys are very much exemplars of growth in that area. So we'd love to see you there.
Yeah, absolutely. So I think, you know, as I mentioned earlier in the chat, I think cross-chain is really important, especially cross-projects that have real love behind them, real passion, real ideology and strong engineering. And so like, obviously, I've been looking to work with Tony at I/O, and I've been exposed to the technology
I know how great the team at I/OGR and how great Charles's vision is for Cardano. Similarly with my work with Silvio and the engineering team at Algarandinc, again, just a world-class team of brilliant people. I'm not saying I want to bridge Algarand into every blockchain out there.
But certainly, you know, the ones that are quality, you know, the cardanos, the nears, the ethereum's, etc. I think that they're definitely worth doing. And I think that it's true that, you know, the end state for this industry is definitely going to be a multi chain world. I certainly don't see, you know,
single winner. Yeah totally agree with that. As far as us go into like where you go and know that we're like discussing it you said August like I can't even fathom what's gonna be happening in August so I'm just trying to make it through through May like I tried to go one week at a time.
We make decisions almost like last minute. I mean, even with it when it was like, Hey, are we going to go to consensus and then, you know, it was John and I talking months ago and figuring out, Hey, are we going to go to consensus and then we talked to John and then it's like, Hey, what if we gave away 10,000 books and it's literally how it started, right? Like, Hey, what what could
we do that's big at consensus and again at consensus like we were the only thing in the registration bag. So it was great because then everybody who picked up a bag who everybody registered were like, oh cool right. So it's been great for us. It's obviously opened a lot of doors. I mean I'm literally getting DMs constantly from people who want to talk.
and not just from Cardano from different chains and different VCs. It was great, honestly. And it's part of it too, is like, again, us working very closely with Algrang to create something that onboards not crypto users so that we can finally reach the normies and I give them a better
better experience, right? And I think that was the one thing that John did on earlier. There's always this question and in crypto of them, I'm always amazed by it's like, well, like, can we have like good user experience or can we have ownership? And it's like, why can't we have both? And I honestly, it's
like that's the path that has to be or nobody's going to come use it. Like if it's too hard, which most of crypto is way too damn hard, right? There's too much friction, nobody's going to come use it. So I think, you know, for us now, Grant, whether it's giving more book, giving way more books and we have some pretty cool plans there or
you know selling books to our grand you know that's the path and that's the way to to mass adoption really making sure that books are decentralized and knowledge is decentralized. John you got I you said you had to bounce in like 10 minutes you got anything else before you get out of here. Yeah I've got a call in quarter past but I just want to say I'm just
team part of the story. I think that like I mentioned before, book.io, no matter what chain it's on, man, is a project that's worth being part of. So I'm just proud to be part of it and thanks for working with me and just shout out to your team, just world class stuff. Thanks a lot. Yeah, man, you know, first of all,
I think we had some people who saw you rock in the book hat the whole time. So the book hat is a hot commodity. So if you wanted to sell that now you're you're buying a lot of bread in the world. Dude, the book is the best hot. It's like it's you know how some hats feel totally uncomfortable on like I love baseball caps. The book hat is the best.
I mean, also for $1 million US dollars. Well, you know, this is the thing we shouldn't even set anything because I guarantee you right now this court is saying win win win win win win win Merch and I get that like three times a day. So this is going to set it off and it's going to be like you gave a hat to that CTO.
I remember when I stole it, you know, I was like, hey, yo, what's what are those hats in that box? And they were like, no, you can't really have one. Oh, okay, you can have one. All right.
Yeah, well you have a good one. I can't wait till we get to hang out again. I think we're going to have a couple more. I know you got a bounce. We have a couple more questions. So Josh and I will hang for another five minutes. Hopefully it's something we can answer. But anyway, can't wait to hang again and have a drink. Chat's in. See you guys. See you. AP you're up.
Oh, thanks. I just wanted to say thank you. I don't really have any scary technical question. But I did want to encourage you because Cardano is going through this new age of Voltaire.
and governance is happening and you know freedom of speech is such an important part of that. It's so cool that you have you know this vision of decentralizing books and information you know that's like the anti-communist like Nazi
It's the opposite. It's freedom. I just think you're in such a great position to be able to share important pieces of document for Cardano, like the soon to be constitution.
and things like that. So I just hope you are all, you know, kind of peeking into the Voltaire, you know, window and seeing what's going on and seeing how you can, you know, share that information with the community through through book.io.
Yeah, I mean we've been pretty, you know, we actually had a pretty good conversation with Cardano Foundation while we were there with Alex at Consensus. So, you know, we're definitely keeping up to speed on that kind of stuff and, you know, we'll figure it out when it happens. Nice. I appreciate it.
you always think this is a it's a great thing. Yeah sure man. Anybody else have any questions if not we're gonna balance and actually go do some work. It's always nice to see Husky here. Lurking and oh Husky requested. Oh.
I hope he just gets on and just starts barking the whole time. Just won't stop barking. I don't have the bark track ready unfortunately. But no, is today are you going to finally rug me down? No, no, rugging.
No rugging today. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't even get to rug you in person. So no, I just wanted to shout out to you guys. You get what you guys did at Consensus was great to be able to walk away with a bag that had just a book I owe on there was awesome. So good job.
job, pushing forward, growing the ecosystem of crypto as a whole, being multi-chain, which I think is a good thing to see. We want in our ability and we're starting to see it, which is great. And I'm just here to ask when coloring book.
We're working on it man. There is a Hoskey's life to drop news. So like we're working on the question we're asking one color again. One file. Yeah, when file. Okay, so that's all it takes. I will push the artist to get that Hoskey coloring book done. Let's do it.
Obviously, you know, we're not ready with mint and print quite yet, but that seems like a book that we can all sit around and color while we drink together. We've all been through the test. We've all been through the test.
I would like to request a leather bound cover with like a Bible ribbon type of thing as like the most expensive option for the coloring book so if we can get that one done that would be great. What are we going to charge for it like $7 billion? Like $69 million.
So, Husky and I actually got a chance, we all got a chance to hang out consensus and it's really great. It's like, it's really great when you get to hang out with all the builders and I don't care what chain it is, right? To get a chance to talk into, under
understand what everybody's working on. Also a shout out to Hosky. The Hosky brand, I don't think people understand what this guy has done with the shit coin. It's phenomenal. And again, all of us here, it's like we see is, Hosky is a bright spot. It's a great content.
content. It's a bright spot in the non-stop fud of crypto of this guy who's literally promising us nothing who says he's gonna fail and keeps just climbing to the top of the mountain. So anyway, I think the Husky brand is really cool to meet him at consensus and again, he's
He's well connected inside the community. He knows what's going on. So careful with careful with all the nice words because that's deflation of character and my room for that one. Yeah. Watch it. Anyway, man, it was super fun to
to meet you. I think we're going to move on to the next next question. But coloring book, you got coloring book coming. It's out. There's a husky coloring book. Eight and V. What's up, man? Hey, everyone. And so excited to see what book I always doing here.
And all the books you've released on all the multiple chains. I'm proud of you for doing that. And I'm particularly fond of the Brave New World. That's one of my favorite books. And a little NBS here on the Cardano side, wondering when or if you'll be releasing it on Cardano.
There's no plans right now. I think usually what we'll do to even in those events is what you'll see from us a lot of times will release a small amount of collectibles or something. But if we do release Brave New World on
On card ono it'll probably be more like a standard edition like one cover much larger volume. But again the point here is like for the for the future of masses right they would come in they would have
their account will handle all the the back end crypto stuff on their bookshelf they won't even know what chain it's on but for us geeks we'll always know and we can always take it with us or shoot it where everyone.
Alright, I think we're going to bounce. We actually have to go get work done. Appreciate everybody coming on in. It's always fun to talk for those of you that are OGs. OGs are the Bible owners with us. I know Josh and I owe you an ask us anything. So if you don't have
a Bible, go get one, and then join our discord and we will hang out and do and ask me anything here pretty soon. We got a mint later today. Totally forgot about that. We're minting today on Pauli Cardano and
So all at once. So you got to choose what Shane you want to go with. It looks like it's going to be a speedy one today. So please do not be late and if you are late, don't yell at me for not getting a book. Anyway, talk to you all later. Peace out.