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ALPHA CHAT
Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 0:53:33Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the evolving landscape of blockchain technology, highlighting trends in decentralized identity, partnerships in banking, and the potential for token launches. The conversation underscored the importance of education and community engagement as key drivers for growth in the Web3 space.
Full Transcription
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Polaris, howdy.
Can you hear me okay?
Jim, Jim, Jim. Yes, I can hear you fine. How's it going?
All good. You had me panicking now, Polaris. I thought I was, I thought I was shut out.
How has you been, bro? How was Amsterdam?
Amsterdam was excellent. Thank you. Really enjoyed it it and currently just sipping on a glass of
Yenneveer which is sort of the Dutch gin. It's very good.
Bro, I tried this wine called Yaysa in Lanzarote and man they basically make that from volcanic
ash. They don't actually make that from a volcanic ash as in like the the brewing
process is very unique to the island and they kind of like use the heat from the
from the volcanic ash to like prepare the wine and man that was something.
But yeah I hope you're enjoying your drink and I see Humpty is shortly going to be joining us as well.
Yeah I just proved him as a speaker but I'm not sure if he's there or if we've got a glitch.
I've just invited him as a speaker, but I'm not sure if he's there or if we've got a glitch.
I've just invited him again to see what happens.
So, in terms of Web3 interactions, how was Amsterdam and what was you up to?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you.
Sorry, I was having some technical difficulties. Appreciate you launching the space, Jeff.
Hey, no problem at all. My pleasure.
In answer to your question, Polaris,
the conference, a little bit quiet, if I'm honest,
but some interesting people there,
some very serious people there.
One of the most interesting people I spoke to was actually from a kind of a neo bank or a shadow bank.
I'm not sure what you call them.
The actual term is but a bank over in Cambodia that had just got approval from the Dutch National Bank for doing transactions and doing things.
And they were it was very interested. So he was talking about how Cambodia as a country for their internal banking transactions have got a test of their own private blockchain. It's not a public blockchain, but a private blockchain that is doing their internal payments and infrastructure around some of the banking things. And they're looking at hopefully rolling it out into Southeast Asia as well. So for international payments,
which is a big use case for crypto. So that was really interesting to see these conversations
around private blockchains actually coming in from these institutions to do things and how that actually lines up with the Web3 space as well.
That's really interesting. Private blockchains sounds like Ripple.
Yeah, I mean, I was in two minds, right? So on the one hand,
I was in two minds, right?
So on the one hand, I think actually what it does
really, really well is saying, this has got value.
This is really useful.
This solves a lot of problems in the banking infrastructure.
So part of me in the first place was,
I'm not sure I like the idea that private blockchains
by the banks and it sort of eats into that decentralization and access a little bit. You don't solve those problems. But what
it does do is demonstrate that it is a solution for people, that it is a viable thing that
institutions are looking at using. And I thought that was interesting.
Yeah, definitely. And I think like I've been brainstorming on some ideas after Humpty gets a chance to speak.
I'll definitely be sharing some stuff around those things as well later on in the spaces.
Hello Humpty, how you doing bro?
Hey guys.
Um, you guys are talking about like centralized chains and I was like, well, some are no better.
Like Solana is on fire, but are they any better than a centralized bank chain?
I don't know.
Not dissing Solana, right?
Because I think they're creating value to a segment of the industry.
But you know, I agree.
I think anyone who is leveraging on-chain technology should be to some degree celebrated.
I don't know how they've deployed this chain, but it would make me more excited if
like Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo would basically use the optimistic roll-up stack
in order to launch their own chain.
I think that that would be a really impressive moment for me because again this serves a very specific use case but it's built on open tech and
that is actually leveraging the Ethereum chain you know at the base layer. So I don't know, I would love to see more of that.
It's really interesting that you mentioned that because in terms of tokenization, I've seen some
real live businesses literally going on pump fun and like tokenizing their
business but I mean we've got a long way to go but like I've seen at least three players
do that in the space of two months and I mean we've talked about this before in terms of
like the actual use case of blockchains and how any organization can create their
own blockchain and you know use the power of the technology to optimize their businesses,
secure their infrastructure, quantum proof their digital presence. I mean, there's, and then of course, like, you know,
the ability to tokenize and be able to, like, you know,
allow the rest of the world to like, kind of like,
you know, be able to partake in their online Web3 version.
It is really interesting, but I feel like there's a big massive gap between understanding
the ethos of Web3 and then jumping onto the bandwagon.
And because of that, I think we'll have at least a couple of years before we see stuff.
But it's on its way.
The names which you mentioned, they're definitely working in the background and trying to figure
out how to enter and be able to utilize this.
Go for it. Yeah, I was going to say, I think at this point, I don't know why more projects aren't
launching their own blockchain.
I know it sounds a little silly because we might ask, why do we need so many different
chains out there?
But I think the narrative that I've seen prevail is, especially with L2, like the OpStack making
it so much simpler to launch your own chain, the argument is that companies can launch
purpose-driven blockchains for their businesses.
Meaning if Bank of America wants to settle transactions on chain, not saying that maybe
every transaction like customer deposits and stuff like that, there might be some other
regulatory thing that needs to happen there, but whatever they would need to do on chain,
they could do it on their blockchain and they don't necessarily need customers to interact
with that blockchain.
They don't need to launch their own token. But again, they're their own customer and they're satisfying kind of their own needs by
building out the solutions, the technology to do so. And I don't know, maybe there's an opportunity for Bank of America or let's call it J.B.
Morgan's, I think that there's a large spank, to create a version of the op stack
that is billable banks, right?
And now on top of this, you're seeing layer 3s, which are even more purposeful than L2s
in terms of how they are used and really how they're implemented as well.
Again, just talking out loud here, but I just think that almost every business now can and
should run their own chain.
That's really interesting, Humpty, to bring what you and Polaris have both just said.
Polaris was talking about tokenization, you was talking about people running blockchains.
I really see a need for people to run their own blockchains. I would suggest building it on top of existing stacks, as you've mentioned. But simple things
like international payments, cross-border payments that don't work very well. They're
expensive. They cost too much. The UN has got a target of X percent per transaction.
We are nowhere near. We're not hitting that. It's far too expensive for lots of people.
And those blockchains could work and solve that.
And then linking that and you actually just said Humpty, maybe not launch their own token
and Polaris you were talking about tokenization.
And this was one of the conversations we're having in Amsterdam as well.
So somebody got onto the conversation of meme tokens and meme coins and things like this.
And the conversation very quickly came around to, well, actually, even non-meme tokens,
even some of the tokenized
things we see, some of the utility tokens, some of the other things, do they have anything
to offer beyond meme status in reality?
And so I think we get to a position where people are really keen to tokenize, keen to
launch a token, but less keen to launch their own blockchain, which actually could
have more use and more purpose, right?
Yeah, I agree. Having your own blockchain gives you so much control over the do's and the don'ts and you can like create that you know you can
create like some sort of a parameter where where where you can operate your
business within those guidelines I mean it's it is difficult to kind of like
understand the whole ethos behind it and like, you know, web2 businesses
They kind of like get comfy, you know in the way they do things
but again any sort of event where we feel where we see like our data getting corrupted or
Probably not being quantum proofed enough.
And suddenly the use case makes so much sense at that point.
Just because things are comfortable at the moment
in terms of our banking system,
even though it is difficult to send money
from cross border payments, but it's still possible.
But with corrupted databases and hacked or potentially not being quantum-proofed would
mean that we'd have no option but to like move on to a different source of payments.
And I think that's where all of this infrastructure is going to be placed. But that's just my
humble opinion.
I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say just note the date March 20th 2025 next year around this time
We're gonna be hearing about
banking l3s that feel like this chat
always
Predicts the future and I will use always I don't like using these infinitives like never forever always
But we have a great track record at predicting the meta for the next year.
So just note the date, March 20th, 2025.
We're talking about L3 banking chain.
I don't think that that is too far from what could potentially happen given
also some of the recent political changes around crypto in the United States.
Exactly.
And I think it's really interesting, sorry, Pilaris,
I think it's really interesting because, you know,
I noticed portals just popped onto the listening in as well.
So portal do a cross-chain Bitcoin across layer ones,
layer twos and it's native Bitcoin.
So you imagine that we've already got this infrastructure
being built by people such as Portal
to bring some of these big assets across
to different chains, to different places.
That actually opens up a future,
especially with the changes in America,
with Bitcoin reserves and things like this,
where banking can actually build L3s
and bring things in like Bitcoin
and even Ethereum and different assets onto their L3 or onto their L2, however they build
it, and actually make use of these really important assets within the blockchain, whether
it be useful collateralization or just deposits or just proof of reserves or whatever it turns
out to be, having that
infrastructure being built now I think is really important.
Yeah, come on up, invite Portal up here.
I'd love to kind of hear more about what they're building.
I think that we always invite people into space to come on and kind of participate in
the conversation with us.
By the way, maybe instead of privacy hour, literally all caps AlphaChat,
because I feel like we're early in this chat.
Predicting since the last three years,
what's gonna happen six months in advance alpha chat but yeah i mean i
mean you know it's all about like understanding the the advancements of technology and and how
the culture kind of like infuses with that with realistic expectations of what that technology
can do and don't i mean i mean because we've been doing it for such a long time,
it becomes easier for us to kind of like get the vibe. But for us, it's probably not alpha,
but it certainly is. It is, because it seems to be happening on a consistent basis. While While Portal decides to come up, I've got this preposition to Humpty and Ontologyff
and everyone else is listening.
I've been trying to think about some interesting ways to engage with the community and it's
something like that Cyberspace for Philosophers project which we initiated a couple of years
ago which was very popular.
It chimes onto what we're talking about in terms of predictions. We predicted about six, seven,
eight months ago, a year ago perhaps, when AI and the information aggregated from blockchains is eventually
going to get infused and we'll be able to like get some somewhat an amalgamation and
it'll be easier for AI to like interact with the blockchain than then actual humans you
know because it kind of like speaks the AI language. Well, with the current
technological prowess which we have achieved, especially with Grok 3,
I think it's safe to say that we can literally infuse blockchains. Someone done that goteus maximus thing where the AI went
totally autonomous and kind of like create a meme coin. What I'm thinking is like creating
a game led by the community using Grok 3 and making it into an immersive community event
where everyone chimes in to give us their say on what game it should be.
Then using ontology's DID and using that to log on to the game,
and coming up with a possible use case of how the information aggregated from the centralized identity can be used to log in. on to a game like, you know, we can add things. I think it'll be a very interesting and immersive
experience for the whole community, as well as like proving a point that, you know, AI and crypto
and DID, not the exact like KYC credentials we're talking, we're just talking about like utilizing that technology to be able to
interact with a portal, but in such a way that it actually is immersive and it kind of like
represents everything which we have talked about. Does that make sense, Jeff?
Yeah, it does make sense. And one of the things I'd say, Polaris,
is a couple of things on that as well that I think is really
cool is, oh, alpha chat.
I can drop some alpha here.
This is really exciting.
So I don't know if I should, but I'm going to anyway
because I'm on my second class of Yen of here,
so I don't care what I'm doing.
I was testing just two days ago,
the Ontanaut AI, the Ontology AI,
which will be embedded into
Onta Wallet that actually will be in there.
We have AI options and things on that,
that will be coming through and coming live.
On top of that, I see use cases for what you were
saying about aggregating that data,
aggregating the identity data
and doing something with that.
Of course, we've got Orange Humanity Score
and other things that Orange can do
for putting all that data in.
I don't know what this would look like, Polaris,
but what I'm saying is if that infrastructure is either there
is either there or about to be there which is quite cool.
or about to be there, which is quite cool.
Awesome I see Humpty's dropped out but uh. No I'm here now can you hear me?
Yeah I can I just say his listener over there but I can hear definitely hear. Yeah I got I got booted
but I'm back. I would like to take that initiative of like you know starting this community
I would like to take that initiative of like, you know, starting this community
What's his name?
Let game and collaboration with
Wow.
So sorry.
First of all, that was meant to come during the alpha alert.
Second of all, I didn't know that was going to be that annoying.
Sorry, Polaris.
Nah, I was excited, bro.
That was good.
I was like, let's go.
That's how Polaris starts every morning, Humpty.
You know this.
That shocked me.
And I was the one that pulled the trigger on that.
So I was embarrassed and scared for everyone else.
Sorry about that, everybody.
But Polaris, what I would say is we've got some great people in the community.
We've got some people,
Barnabas is in there,
I can see down there who's working on some development stuff.
We've got opportunities, I think, to do something cool.
And whenever I speak to our community,
they are crying out for a game on the Ontology Network,
something they can do, something they can play with,
something that just is interesting and exciting.
So, hey, look, we're over to your chat, dude.
You know that.
So let's sell something out next week
and have a conversation.
Awesome, awesome.
On a side note, did everyone kind of like see
what's happening underneath the pyramids?
I saw a meme, I didn't know what was going on.
I just saw some meme come through and got confused.
So you might have to fill us in.
Bro, they found like the pyramids are basically just like the top end. It's like the tip of the iceberg. And they've got like eight cylinders going underneath, which are like about 75 meters down.
And then there's chambers underneath. They've done some sonar.
It's absolutely mind blowing.
I mean, the reason why we're talking about this right now
is like, you know, there's this huge change in the way,
technology and history and the future and our banking,
everything is kind of like amalgamating into
one data is coming out.
We're finding out like the historical artifacts, which we thought were the historical artifacts
were just the tip of the iceberg.
And I think like the same thing in terms of this technology which we have here and which It's been like, you know, shadowed by, I would say, like, you know, the monetary gains aspect,
right?
I think like, there's some greatness hidden underneath, like, you know, communities being
built, tokenization happening of businesses, cross-b border payments happening left, right and centre, even though
there are some nuances in terms of KYC, AMS, but I think we're all moving towards the right
direction and I think AI, the robotics aspect and all of this is leading towards that dystopian
utopia you've always talked about.
Yeah, it's interesting, right? I mean, we often, you know me, I'm kind of an identity slash DeFi person at heart. I like both. I think they both sit hand in hand more than any other part
of the space in some respects. Some of you will disagree with me, you'll disagree with me. Polaris
is just my own personal bias, I think, on that.
But I do love that combination of DeFi and identity.
However, we have to accept, you know, we've got, you know,
obviously I'm from a science background as well,
and we've got a growing need, actually,
for decentralized science and decentralized data and so on.
And I'm not gonna get political at all here,
but I am gonna say that, you know,
when you have government hosted data
and scientific data hosted and paid for by governments,
and they have the power to pull that data,
which has happened, rightly or wrongly,
as I say, I'm not getting political,
but that has happened where data has been pulled.
Actually decentralized systems, blockchains,
step into that and can form a role.
Same with healthcare, same with transport, same with DeFi.
And I think you're right, Polaris,
we're just still to use the best
and most ongoing meme comment we have.
We are still very early.
The problem with that, the problem with that is there's still so much to be done on the infrastructural side.
In Amsterdam, we were talking about access to DeFi,
access to banking, access to loans.
The conversation was all around people accessing USD stable coins on the whole.
If you're in the Philippines,
if you're in Southeast Asia,
you do not want to borrow USD, right?
You don't want to borrow USD,
invest it in your business,
and then get absolutely smashed by the dollar,
just outperforming your local currency.
So your loan just gets bigger and bigger and bigger
and more manageable.
So we don't have the stable
coin infrastructure. We literally don't even have the currency for DeFi to work in terms of making
access work. There's a lot of work to be done. And so I guess like your pyramids, Polaris,
we're still digging away at the top and trying to figure out how do we get it all? How do we figure out how it all works together?
I mean, the president of Argentina tried to tokenize. That didn't really work out that well.
No, no it did not. I mean, but this is the thing. I mean, in some respects, isn't this one of the exciting things about blockchain that even governments
are rugged people? I mean, I don't know if that's a good thing, a bad thing, but in some respects,
it alludes to that decentralized, permissionless nature to do things. And that actually, the responsibility is ours. We see so so much talk at the moment and I'm a bit torn at the moment.
We see so much talk about abstracting things away, making it easy for people to use, making
it so they don't know, they don't have to know what's going on under the surface.
And I just think, it's not we made those mistakes already.
Actually, shouldn't we be helping people understand
what's going on under the surface? Shouldn't we be helping people understand what they're doing
so they can control it? I thinkodial, self-sovereign.
However, most people either don't have the capacity to understand that or don't really care.
And what ends up happening is they go unused and people don't necessarily have the access to the systems, both technological and financial, that are sore these middleware that are familiar and accessible upfront.
Sign up with your email, get a wallet on the backend that connects to blockchain native
applications and financial rails, but they aren't fully decentralized. And as much as I don't like it as someone who believes in
self-sovereign money and self-sovereign identities,
I do understand that there is a value and a need for it as a way to bridge
people over to these new money systems where if there's interest in leaning in further to
the full decentralization of their wallets, of their identities, they can at a later date.
But I think it's more important to get people familiar with the space in general and give them the access
to, like I said already, the technology and the financial systems.
Yeah, go on Pallava, sorry. No, no, no, after you.
I was going to say, I totally agree Humpty and it reminds me of the early BTC days where there was all these
different aspects of governance and consensus where you'd have certain part of the community agreeing and not agreeing.
And then we would have like forks and BTC and BCH, Bitcoin Cash was one of those
which I experienced and that was interesting. And I think we've kind of like moved forward from
that technological evolution and now we're hitting
those cultural evolution points now.
We're hitting that, that we've kind of like come towards some sort of a generalized consensus
when it comes to technology.
But now we've got like an issue with the cultural aspect where we don't understand whether we like the president of a country, what are the cultural
nuances which are need to be kept into account even though the technology is still there.
And this is the bit like, you know, like, like, for example, the term rug is like a
well, it's like a relative term towards something.
And I mean, it's got a vast explanation, right?
So interesting times, I would say.
We will eventually get over this.
Eventually we will come towards a consensus in a cultural aspect as well, where the whole world kind of like comes towards a consensus that this
is what needs to be done in terms of being a good character or a bad character. Go for
it, Geoff.
Yeah, I'm going to pick up on that culture thing, right? And I think that's... I agree
with you, Polaris. I think this is a really difficult position
because obviously we've seen this acceleration
in technology in some respects.
AI landed and went really rapidly.
And it's really weird for me because, you know,
I'm pushing 50, my kids are around the 20 mark
and I've adapted to AI faster than they have.
I've pushed them into AI and things
because they just don't like the interface.
They have to type something in and it
spews out loads of text afterwards.
They don't like it. They're not interested in it.
They have to read too much, I think, to use it.
Even people designing some of these apps and so on
are missing the culture of that younger generation coming through,
how they interact with things, how they use things,
how they experience things.
The sort of games we play are very different.
I've always been a gamer, my kids are gamers.
They play very different games in very different ways
to the way I would approach playing them.
Just our entire approach to anything digital is really, really different.
I'm going to go back to what I was going to say to Humpty.
I had a really cool chat with a guy,
I can't remember his name, unfortunately, from Galactica.
He put forward this idea that when we onboard people,
when we actually bring people into our ecosystems,
actually part of the pathway could be you onboard them
with a wallet that is custodial.
They sign up with their email,
they do whatever and everything's there,
and they get involved with some staking.
But actually, there's a series of
educational pieces and a series of
pathways where eventually you don't force them, but you educate them and encourage them
to go to non-custodial ownership of identity and wallets and things like this.
And I've not actually seen anybody do that really well.
I've seen people do the custodial side.
I've seen people do the non-custodial side.
What I've not seen done well yet is that transitional piece
where people can start in one way
and actually transition to full ownership and take it
as they become more confident with their own security,
more confident in their own understanding,
where they can get to where they wanna be.
Like something like, you know, when you join Coinbase and they ask us like, do you want to earn
some money?
And then they tell you about different blockchains and you get like a fiber or something like
that.
So something in a context that like, you know, you onboard someone and as the complexities of that digital interaction
become more intense, so does the learning factor.
And as you, you know, unlock one level of the game, you know,
you know, like Prince of Persia, for example, Jeff, right? And you kind of like move to a more complex
you know, like Prince of Persia, for example, Jeff, right?
level where even though it's a game, but it's actually teaching you stuff. That's a very noble
concept. And I think that should be also incorporated in this community thing I'm trying to initiate.
But yeah, something along those lines.
I don't like the principle of your reference, Pilaris,
because I always just died inexplicably in that.
So, you know, that's a little bit dangerous.
Billy, welcome to the stage.
Thanks for asking to come up.
Please just go ahead and join in.
Thank you very much, gentlemen.
So, as somebody has been been sort of off and on listening here for the last year, I'm finding
it more important that because there are so many varied subjects that are discussed here
that cover so many different topics, that I think it would be a good idea,
first of all, to do a,
what do you call it, a text of the meeting notes,
so that we can narrow down specific points
that we should be addressing and talking about.
Perhaps having Discord meetings as well,
maybe once a month to tackle some of these things
and see what are the best ways to approach dealing with them.
The idea behind culture and generational gaps
and building for protective environments to the challenges that are coming. All of these things
are super important and engagement is in order to grow the group is going to be one of the biggest
things as well. So I think really though that it would be nice if I had notes that I could reference back after the
meeting that I could possibly discuss with somebody after the meeting is over or during
the following week as we move forward. And it just sort of builds a history of our dialogues
It just sort of builds a history of our dialogues
and it gives us a stronger foundation to build on.
I'm liking the, I mentioned in the chat
and Barnabas had said something about it as well.
Good afternoon Barnabas.
About possibly setting up some sort of an educational program
in the discord where you could go through
and learn to do the things that you want to be able to do to be able to walk and
run in this new environment that's coming. You were discussing your sons
that are in their 20s. My sons are now in their 30s. And
I need a one 40s.
Yeah, and neither one of them wanted to have anything to do with the computers besides playing games. So yeah, it drove
me nuts. But so for me now, it's like, we also touched on engagement and people that might want a middle road to understanding the environment that they're in and people saying, I really don't want to understand the technology behind everything,
but I'd like to participate and know that I have a trusted partner
and somebody that I'm signing up with.
And so there's those aspects to be looked at.
I just see so many possibilities in growing the ontology network that I don't know if
we're not missing them because we're not keeping records of our meetings and what things are
going on and these open engagements trying to get the public involved in this as well.
So that's sort of my thoughts about what I was thinking.
Ellie, I've been crying over here. I don't know if anybody's
following my emojis. But I'm crying over here because when I
was head of community at ontology, you didn't make any of
these recommendations. But now that Jeff has said of community,
you're making these wonderful recommendations.
Now I know you're a paid chill for Jeff.
It's just leadership from the top home team.
Oh, is that what's happening?
OK, fair enough.
Because I'm over here like, wait, I've invited everybody
to participate.
I used to host, by the way, monthly calls on Discord,
and nobody would show up. So if anything, I'm just happy to see that Jeff has struck a chord.
Obviously kidding. Love Jeff. Love having you up here. But I agree with you. I think, I don't know
if we necessarily need to transcribe the call,
but definitely summarizing it and giving some clear call to
action in terms of what we could do and take on,
and then connecting that to some group project
that can be leveraged or built upon together on Discord.
Awesome recommendations, Billy. Obviously,
I was having fun over here with my emojis and being over emotional as usual.
Polaris, before I drop some out for I think you had your hands up. So do you want to go first?
Yeah, I was going to say Billy just like literally took the words from my mouth because we literally like brainstorming
the living daylights out of this technology we've got here.
And I was thinking that it's such a waste, like especially last week's conversation,
which we had was also, well, every week is just like phenomenal conversations we have.
So I was planning to like start writing some threads, you know, based on the conversations which we've had
and then like launching those threads
on a weekly basis as well.
That's something which I was thinking about doing
that would definitely like,
because it's like pretty much live conversations of Web3
and we've got a very solid team here
in terms of talent is concerned
and the community also is extremely talented.
So conversions of all of that would like would definitely get the talk and the ethos of that
talk flowing. So and also like Billy well done for like these recommendations because
like
Knowledge is power at the end of the day and I remember like the first time you you joined our spaces and
and from there to to where where we are actually today in terms of how you understand the space and
How streamlined your your recommendations have been.
Flowers to you brother.
Yeah and look I'm gonna drop a little bit of information here and there will be some
official announcements around this as we go forward but so Billy obviously we've had some
back and forwards on Twitter and a conversation and things. We've chatted about a few things.
I'm pretty sure you were a reply on something.
But rest assured, I have been thinking about the things we've spoke about and looked at things we've spoken about.
So one of the things that is going to go live
probably in April, we might get to the end of March, but it's likely to be in April,
is that in Discord, when we get new members in, when we get to the end of March, but it's likely to be in April, is that in Discord,
when we get new members in, when we get new people involved in the space and wanting to
be interested, they will have the opportunity to sign up for an onboarding program where
they will be allocated a harbinger. And a harbinger will, somebody like Barnabas or
Polaris or somebody will look after them. They will lead them through the system.
They will be able to get ONG, ONT.
They'll be able to get help in setting up their DID,
their decentralized identity.
They'll be able to get help in generating
an Orange Humanity score to prove they're human.
They'll be able to get help in staking for the first time
and helping secure the ontology network
and all these things.
So they will actually have a human who will sort of give them
the white glove experience to get involved and do things
and understand the space better.
And I think that's really important.
And that will be in Discord.
On top of that, and this is something
we're looking at putting in place,
is this idea of more working group focus.
So if we've got people interested in the development, in the documentation,
and I'm currently talking about Barnabas, with Barnabas about this at the moment, to
see how we can get that documentation improved and develop things like working groups with
people interested in that.
But also, and this is off the back of what you've just said, Billy, there's no
reason at all. We can't push that out to working groups on different ideas, different topics,
you know, and we can host meetings around on Discord around that. We can host little conversations.
Two to five people, three to five people actually can be a good conversation. So we can put little working groups together and try and push that out.
Actually that also results in real good high quality things
we can share with the community from those working groups.
We spoke Billy about Daniel's post
on these different little working groups
and intersections and so on.
And I think that's a great way to do things
and there's no reason we can't push that out.
I think that was a much better use of our soundboard here. Good job. Whoever did that.
That was me. I was just saying, this is how we do it.
So basically everybody does a better
job than me got it thanks Pilaris. Don't worry bro life is like a wave it
sometimes goes up and sometimes goes down so when things are going your way
it's alright enjoy it ride it when it's going down just survive it. I don't know
if that's as comforting as you think it might be, Polaris.
Right? He's like, just ride the waves of shit. Thanks, appreciate it.
It happens to me as well, man.
I think the moon isn't retrograde for me, so I'm overly emotional today. Sorry, guys. Nah, bro, you're doing fine.
I think fine, everything's great.
Fine, everything's great.
Like nobody got the retrograde joke,
the moon does not go backwards, guys.
I think, right, I'm going to compose myself, right?
And I think we've got some cool things going on at the moment.
I think we are going to launch the Harbinger White Glove
service on Discord, getting those things done.
But we have got the Ontology AI coming out,
which will be embedded into Onto Wallet.
Add to that the Ontology Instant Messaging service
embedded into Onto Wallet,
and the things like Orange Humanity Score
and things like data segmentation
and things like that already going through as well.
Lots actually to get our heads around and lots to do. And I know
we're also out and about everywhere at the same time. I fly off to Paris next month and then I
fly to Dublin and then I fly to Prague and then I fly to Cannes and trying to hopefully Humpty is
going to hook up a trip to Argentina and convince somebody to let me go with him, but who knows if
that'll happen or not. But lots going on, right?
I mean, Humpty, we meet every Tuesday.
It's quite an exciting time
in terms of things we're trying to push out.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to your time zone changing
so I don't have to stay up till midnight.
But yeah, it's, you know,
I think the one thing that I am very excited about is generally
in terms of like what's happening on ontology.
I feel like that there's a unified message that's coming together and there's a maybe
better set an increased focus on the things that they're building, which, you know, I
don't know.
I wouldn't take it as
a bad thing that ontology hasn't been focused before because the thing is they've really
built a lot. They've delivered a lot of really great tools, but there really hasn't been
a way to like connect that to one unified strategy. And I think in 25, it's about connecting that much more intentionally. And so obviously,
capturing the narrative, AI, chatbots, all that stuff, I think is important. But being able to
deliver on a strategy that brings on a very targeted customer to build that ontology,
to leverage ontology in terms of like integrating the
things that it's built. I think for me that that's very exciting.
Absolutely. And you're right. It is something we spoke a lot about in terms of we have this
ecosystem around reputation, identity, staking, the blockchain, all these different things, access with OntoWallet.
And it's really important that we bring that together as a unified solution for people,
whether it be users or developers, and so on. And so that's really, really exciting.
Polaris, we're going to talk about gaming. Billy, keep an eye on Discord. I'm going to work with
Dan on Discord. So Dan is our harbinger who mostly looks after Discord. We're going to work with Dan on Discord. So Dan is our harbinger who mostly looks after Discord.
We're going to redesign it to make it easier to use,
make it more accessible and bring in things
like working groups and bring in things like
this onboarding service for people as well.
So I think that's a great suggestion.
And we have a smallish but important group on Discord
that I think we can grow into a much more important
group as well. We are coming up to, you know, we've gone everywhere here. We started off with
banking and private chains. We've gone to onboarding experiences, user experience,
and we've gone to working groups. We've gone to how we can capture value of these conversations and build on that rather than letting it disappear
into the atmosphere.
We've learned the Humptys in retrograde
and all these different things.
I think it's been a great conversation.
I've really enjoyed it.
Anything else before we hand over to Polaris?
I think we missed the pyramids and like I think we pretty much covered everything, Jeff. It's been an amazing conversation.
Thank you everyone for joining us.
Let's keep brainstorming and bringing these amazing ideas onto the table.
I've got a lot I'm going to be working on.
I've been thinking about things
and I'm sure Humpty and Jeff have got a lot as well.
Let's try to converge these ideas into a synchronicity
and looking forward to our conversations next week.
In the meanwhile, look after your mind and health,
drink lots of water, touch grass, and see you next week. In the meanwhile, look after your mind and health, drink lots of water, touch grass and see you next week. Adio. .
