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Alpha Talk #1: AVAX Trenches
Recorded: June 13, 2025 Duration: 1:24:01Space Recording
Short Summary
The Avalanche ecosystem is witnessing a surge in token launches and community engagement, with new projects like Triple O Games and innovative anti-snipe measures shaping the landscape. As the community grows, discussions highlight the importance of fair launches and the evolving trends in tokenomics, signaling a promising future for participants in the trenches.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Hello, how's it going guys?
Hey, how are you?
I just got back home from the train and I already missed a new token.
Whiskey. Whiskey.
Whiskey, I'm in it.
I know.
Oh, DGN time, trenches.
Let's go.
Yes, sir.
Shout out to our friend Whiskey.
Yeah.
It's really funny to see more people launching coins especially like
Whiskey is a community manager
for Avalabs in Canada
so you know
you get really excited when you see
the team is supporting all the
movements all the narrative
and you know they're trying to create a culture
around it
Whiskey just to confirm it's actually
someone called Spring Roll created confirm it's actually someone um called spring
roll created and it's an honorary for whiskey so it's not his token and whiskey got gifted
i think about 3.25 percent sent it all to um the integrity dow so um yeah super cool though i love
i love seeing um you know how how you know a lot of these tokens have been done by OG community members,
either referencing respective people or characters, or they're just going,
you know what, this is my time to start a project, and all the communities sort of get behind it.
Yeah, for sure. And it seems like it's not the first time community launch and they're going for someone,
and then just because of the culture, they're trying to support it.
Was it the same with Daniel and Lambo token?
Initially, like, he has not created it, but he started actively pushing it.
Yeah, so basically he tweeted, and I actually saw his tweet before I went to bed.
It said, why isn't there a lambo token on avax yet or
something like that and then i woke up and i and i saw that there was one so i just like
top blasted um at like 800k and it just went crazy it was um a golden so golden smalls made it and
he's absolutely cooked it up and it looks like lambo is going to be one of the leading tokens, which is pretty
cool. So there's a lot of people that are printed from that one and a lot of people
that are still holding on and still manage to get a decent entry. So for the most part,
a lot of these tokens has been doing well and I think a lot of people should be profitable at the moment, which is nice.
Yeah, for sure.
I think the difference between Solana and Avax Trenchers
is that on Avax, there is a really huge social fly aspect.
Because, for example, if Sol Trenchers would come right now to Arena
trying to scam the Avalanche community,
they would not be able to do it
because they need to have a reputation behind them community they would not be able to do it because
they need to have a reputation behind them they need to be active on arena and basically yeah
that's why that's why it's so easy to earn money right now in the arena and so it seems like many
people are profitable myself included and yeah i think um and and it was, I jumped on Poyon Pingo's space the other day with RJ and, you know, you just basically spoke about what was a big thing there is that the difference is that, you know, you've got docs members with their creator account
and ticket holders launching tokens and people are all eating from that.
And so there is that really big community feel about it.
And, yeah, it's good.
I mean, you know, there's going to be rugs and there's going to be people
that are, you know, getting sniped and whatever.
But, you know, it's, you know, speaking to Jason and the arena guys about, you know, what they've got coming, you know, the anti-snipe measures that they've got coming in.
And, you know, anything launched through the launch pad basically is the best way of not getting sniped as opposed to just launching on the decks.
So there's a fair bit going on there.
I know Ghost and Moonbags, you know, did really well
with their whitelist-only thing and I know they've got some stuff
cooking there as well.
So I think the general consensus and feeling on Avalanche,
you know, seeing some of the gamers getting converted
to the trenches, Jesus is probably leading the way there.
It's pretty funny.
And, you know, like, you know, I'm in some chats with a bunch of gamers
as well and everyone's just taking the plunge and having fun,
which is really nice and helping each other out,
which to be completely honest with you,
I haven't seen to this extent for an extended period of time.
this extent for an extended period of time yes it's only been a week for a couple of people but
Yes, it's only been a week for a couple of people,
you know the the trenches for um you know avalanche with the arena launch pad going live i think six to
eight weeks ago now is that um there's a lot more education a lot more helping each other out and
that whole pve versus pvp like you know everyone's got to eat but as long as everyone's eating we're
good right um and you're going to have some bad actors but look generally speaking it's the most fun i've had in a
very long time in terms of the trenches um i can sleep at night um i have dead bags that just come
back alive um some don't but you know when you're weighing up the dead bags versus the profitable
bags like you know you're still in the green. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm really excited about this new narrative
because with the pre-sales, it was a little bit different.
But, yeah, we've got many people today on the stage
and some of the listeners as well.
Today, just to give you a little bit of context,
we're going to talk about Avon's trenches,
how we are trenching, what tools are we using,
what are the communities, what are the great tickers, etc.
And overall about the experience of Avange trenches.
Not all of us are trenching here.
Gus may be more focused on the product building because he is the founder of DTRXBT and Ivox
as well.
And we have Jesus Martinez, founder of Legion.
We have Gorilla, founder of the Gorilla Loves.
We have Swanee today as well on our spaces.
And Gris, who is the uh community
manager at cloud club but yeah guys i'll let you you know shortly introduce yourself as well so i
don't miss anything so let's start it out has martinez yeah so i'm an 11th time in a row crypto
gaming tournament winner former league of legends challenger, Axie Ponzi God, converted into
crypto gaming genius, and now converting the crypto gamers, saving them as Jesus or Jesus,
depending on how you pronounce it, tends to do.
Converting them into the trenches, because we've been getting milked and rinsed for the
past two years.
We're tired of it.
We're fed up with it.
So now we're in the trenches.
We're cooking.
We're deep.
We're not getting sleep.
And we're doing what we need to do to keep on making it. I really confused jave and i've been having this narrative for probably two years it's
been in my brain festering why the hell are the fortnight kids and this is a call out to all the
fortnight kids why are the fortnight kids the big boys here in the arena and in crypto memes it
makes no sense it should be the league fam it should be the World of Warcraft guys. The guys that actually had to put an effort, not kill five-year-old kids on Fortnite. So,
someone had to say it. I mean, you know, man, kids that are playing Fortnite, they're just getting
ADHD. I got their ADHD. I can't focus on one thing. And because everything's happening so fast
on the arena, it's quite easy for me. But yeah, Ghost, founder of Ivax and DTRXBT, passing the mic to you.
Yeah, well, I mean, I had already kind of moved on.
I mean, I will support gaming if there's good projects,
but I moved on from that scene in terms of overall realizing
how exploitative it was.
And, you know, I think I was,
I wasn't early to Avalanche.
There's OGs who've been here since 2000, right?
So five years.
So that would be a ridiculous thing to say.
But I think I was early in this latest stretch
to realize that it was going to explode the way it did what i mean by
early i wasn't early compared to like the people who've been here forever but i was early as a
newcomer i think to kind of realize this is going to explode the way it did uh when i was talking
about arena to people right arena's been around for a while and arena people like oh that's a
dead app i mean they didn't say it exactly like that right but
they're like oh i tried it it was boring or whatever i was like no you don't understand
what's gonna happen and everyone fucking faded me and you know i i don't know like look i i'm
right and wrong i'm right you know i'm wrong a lot too but i don't understand why anyone would
just dismiss like like say like all right well let me look into it. But I turn out to be right. And I think it's just the tip of the iceberg, right?
I think it's the tip of the iceberg. I think Avalanche, it's not like a, you know, like a phase where it's going to be hot for two weeks or a month or two.
I think it's really the start of continual growth.
I think Arena is going to get bigger.
I think more volume is going to come.
I think more people is going to come.
On the back end, I'm doing a lot of business development
with Real Builders.
Just take a look at the people on my advisory committee.
It's Pact. It's Umeo, it's Aether, it's Cedify. These are people, I talk to them, I have a meeting with Aether, a business development meeting.
about what's going on behind the scenes in terms of business development and the kind of projects
coming. So I feel very confident in saying Avalanche will be a big leader in a lot of areas.
I think it's going to be a big leader in the meme coins, as you can see with Arena. I think
it's going to be a big leader in the AI space. I think Avalanche is really ascendant, and I'm glad to be aware of that early-ish on in terms of
this phase and really be deep into it.
Yeah, I think the best decision that I've made for the past year
is shifting my focus from gaming to Avalanche ecosystem completely,
and it's happened in January.
I remember I had my first conversation with DeadRim in October
when he mentioned Arena to me.
Even back then, it was quite fresh.
But the amount of the futures that it already had back then
was really surprising.
And right now, they've got Dex.
They've got social fly platform.
They've got all these amazing futures.
And they are trying to improve it as well.
And I'm just really excited, you know.
And it's really interesting to see how the narrative shifted from the pre-sales now more to, you know, Arena tokens.
I know today all the OGs are launching the tokens as well.
And I'm curious how it's going to change in the future as well.
But yeah, Gorilla, passing the mic to you. Yes, sir. I agree with what you said. The pre-sale thing,
it was cool, but you get the typical like, oh, rich get richer. And it's all the insiders here.
Anybody has the opportunity to get in. And exactly like you guys said at the beginning,
you trust it more, especially that people are tying their Twitter accounts to a token that they're launching. It kind of like yesterday with, uh, Hey, and on,
you know, you have a lot more faith aping into these tokens. So I've really been enjoying it.
It's a lot calmer than the sole meme coins. Like soul. I don't know. You leave your house for 10
seconds. I mean, even here, you leave your house, uh, the other day at Wolfie, I went to the gym.
That was a big mistake, but I find that there's three coins bonding every hour versus soul.
It's like a billion.
So I like how calm it is here.
The coins are cooking.
Everybody's cooking together.
There's none of this PvP stuff.
I'm really enjoying it.
And yeah, it's been great so far.
Yeah, some of the people, especially like South Rangers, I'm not trying to offend anyone,
but they think that we have some kind of cabal. to be honest i'm just buying off the second like you can obviously see
the bond tokens who is behind all the tokens what's the volume you know what are the mutuals uh is it
og developer etc and like you know for example just yesterday uh we've had uh wife launched and
i was 30 minutes late to the call
because i had to uh to the lounge because i've had the call with the lawyer and i just bought
all of the secondary uh at 7 million market cap and it's already going pretty well like 2x from
my entry but yeah gorilla i saw you raise your hand right there's definitely cabals let's be
real this whole game is an information game no matter what
industry if you're trading pokemon cards if you're connected to the pokemon shops and like the top
pokemon youtubers and the top pokemon traders you are tapped in to that information network and you
are forming your own cabal like dude i talk to jesus every single day uh we're talking about
tokens i guess you could call that a cabal but we're just friends who have similar interests
we're both grinding we have the same motivations so we're sharing things and we're talking about tokens. I guess you could call that a cabal, but we're just friends who have similar interests. We're both grinding. We have the same motivations. So we're sharing things
and we're hitting on things. So just find people who are in the same world as you or show like
bigger people like, Hey, look, I'm in this to win. I'm putting in the work. I'm finding bangers.
Like you want me in your network and you're going to get in these quote unquote cabals.
They exist, but you could build your own. It's not like this crazy thing that you have to be a YouTuber
or be like work for I don't know who.
Like you could have your own cabal.
Everything is an information game,
and information is always going to win.
So put in the work, and you'll get there.
Yeah, for sure. I agree here.
I would say, though, like, you know, there is higher chances.
Like everyone at the same level compared to Salt Ranges, what has been happening, especially at the end.
And like, obviously, you know, Kabbalt sharing the information, but there is not so much like inside information compared to some of the other chains.
Like, that's what I've noticed because I've been ranging before on the other chains as well.
And it's going much better for me here on the avalanche.
And yes, Wani, passing the mic to you.
Look, I just wanted to have a quick comment about the cabal comments.
It's so funny because like, and I'm sure, you know, yourself, Jesus, everything.
Like he's deep in the trenches.
I am as well.
People are like, oh, Swanee's in the cabal.
Like get me in.
I'm like, bruh, my cabal is me, myself and I.
There's a few chats that exist.
But the ones that I've hit the best on is what I saw on Twitter and people just doing coded stuff.
Like it's so funny.
There's, you know, sole groups that I'm very familiar with that are trading AVAX because it's hot and they're actually eating some of the bigger coins earlier.
And you're right.
Guerrilla is absolutely right.
You know, you make your own
cabal you make your own groups you find people that have similar interests to you um something
that goes preaches more than probably anyone else is so vocal about it is you know make sure you
have people in your group that will always give and not extract so you know as long as there's
people that are givers you know that they're more than what you know and you're just helping each other out right um i will say aivax um and what he's
done there and you know just about every token there's people in there that are just absolutely
hunting people providing you know theses is behind it not everything's right but people are trenching
i'll say that's a cabal i'll say some of of the big arena communities are cabals that were the OG
arena communities and OG arena trenches that have been here long before majority of us on this space.
They are, you know, the cabals and we are seeing these groups coming out with some amazing OGs
coming out going, I feel confident I'm going to run my own token. And they're literally putting
their heart and soul into it. And I fucking love it. So yeah, that's all I wanted to say on that
part. Yeah. So Ani is in the AIVax group chat. We hit, we caught everything really early. Like,
I mean, I, I, if you look at my Twitter feed, I'll show, I post receipts. We caught everything,
not just a bit early, but severely early. Obviously,
I wasn't in all of it because I'm not 24-7 glued to the computer, but I've made six figures. I'll
admit it. I made six figures this month, and I wasn't even trying too hard. I don't know. I don't
think I'm a bad trader, but I'm not like the most amazing trader in history.
I just think that it's a great opportunity for anybody and it's still early.
But my point is, I think in my group chat, it's smart people posting stuff early.
And so a lot of people are eating. But then there's also part of it.
You have to figure out where do you want to go harder, like allocation, are you going to put, sometimes I go in with size, so I'll put 10k into
something and sometimes I'll put 500, right? So there's a little bit of that. But my point is,
is that I have never for a long time, haven't seen a PVE environment as Avalanche has been.
And I haven't seen that for a long, long long time i mean that like i am not trying
to um like all the receipts like i'll say oh i'm in this and then three days later i'll quote tweet
what i had posted and it's like up 5x or something um all the receipts are there i think it's just
great and i think it's not gonna um i I don't know. Things change really quickly and things get saturated quickly. But then you see this guy Danny coming back, and that's exciting.
And I just know โ I'm aware of some things that are cooking and some other things that are going to โ I just think that avalanche is not a phase. I'll repeat that. And I think it's still early.
I just think that avalanche is not a phase.
I'll repeat that.
And I think it's still early.
So I would just tell people to just be curious.
I think there's a severe problem in this space of people lacking curiosity.
The people who make the most money are the people who are curious.
That's my observation.
People who are curious do well in this space, in Web3.
Don't be rigid, is my point.
Yeah, I agree here and like I'm the perfect example to be honest because I was not an active trencher before Avalanche Trenches because I was just focused on
the gaming and luckily enough thanks to Swanee and Jesus Martinez because of their
posts I just basically got into Avalanche Trenches, started trading myself you know
and basically just trying to find the right place.
But yeah, great.
Passing the mic to you.
Hey, what's up, guys?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you both.
Perfect.
Hey, first, thank you for inviting me.
This is awesome.
And yeah, I agree with, you know,
the majority of the panel here.
I would say to me,
what I think about the trenches right now is the we are having fun right
everyone's just so glued to the computer everyone's just trying to find uh the next good ticker the
social aspect of it to me is great because we get to see who's launching it right and maybe you've
met that person in real life maybe you've had conversations with them or you just like them
right you just feel like they like they're a good profile
or they're just posting like good stuff.
And I just feel the energy is super high.
And I agree with Ghost in terms of,
I don't feel this is a phase.
I think Arena will eventually start to like deep peg
from the Avalanche ecosystem and become its own
because it's like, the app is so great.
I'm just having a lot of fun with it and I think it's bringing everyone together and really
creating this culture of, I like what you said about we are not aping into every coin that's
you know made by an unknown person, right? We're aping into the coins that people made from the
community or maybe we, like I said, we've met them before right so i just think
it's it's really cool to see the growth and everyone just turning their heads into avalanche
so i think that's a really you know net positive over all these past few weeks
yes i really agree here and by the way like i would like to get back to the
avalanche strategy status and how to get started for the new people. But in the meantime, I'll give some time to D200 to introduce himself and just to hear
your thoughts as well.
Can't hear you for some reason.
Okay, while you're fixing your mic, let's move to the question that I have right now.
So, you know, guys, what do you think so far about the current narrative?
Because previously we had this pre-sale narrative and we've talked a little bit about it.
Like we had CAT, we had WIM, we had BLAP, we had WOOF and some other tokens.
What do you guys think?
Like with the current A Avange Trench status,
is their previous pre-sales will come back, like, to ATH prices,
or is just all the focus moving to the next coins?
No, I think there will be pre-sales.
And I think that, so, for example, look what Virtuals is doing. That's a pre-sales um and um i think that uh so for example look what virtuals is doing that's a
pre-sale model um cdify is going to be doing a whitelist pre-sale i mean i think both coexist
because i think that there are projects who want to um avoid snipers and want to choose their
communities so both can coexist some projects are better fair launched,
just on a bonding curve where, you know, whatever. And others would do better with a
pre-sale format. I don't think it's one size fits all. I think both have merit. And I think that
you'll see both thriving side by side. And they may both be on Arena. Like ours was a pre-sale.
thriving side by side and they may both be on arena like ours was a pre-sale
pre-sale people are up big and
That it's on arena. So you you can it's not mutually exclusive
But the way curious like about your experience because you've launched Ivox token, right? Um
Have you checked the stats like how many people sold their allocation among those people that were approached?
About 75% are holding.
We have statistics because there's a dashboard and there's a vesting.
People who don't sell, they accrue diamond handed pool, we call it.
And so they accrue tokens.
And then if people sell, then the pool becomes larger for the people who are left.
So right now, there was about 4,000 wallets, which includes pre-sale and airdrop.
Pre-sale was about 800.
Airdrop was about 3,200.
So it's about 4,000.
I think 1,000.
I think 1,000 wallets have left in terms of giving up their spot.
Yeah, it's really impressive to see those stats.
And it shows that most part of the outreach community is actually Diamond holders,
especially like with Cat and some previous pre-sales as well.
Smany, right over to you. Yeah, just on previous pre-sales as well. Smanny, right over to you.
Yeah, just on the pre-sales.
I mean, I think, you know, that started something good.
I think in terms of will the ones that were done previously come back,
I do believe Wink and Blob, they are still here.
I know they are still here.
You know, Goosey and Alpha, you know,
doing what they can and I do believe that they are going to come back.
I saw that Memoria got a grant through Retro 9000.
That was also a pre-sale.
And I do know that there is another pre-sale coming up,
Triple O, so Triple O Games that originally launched Battle Derby on Immutable.
They've got another game, Fail Cars, that will be integrated
and the pre-sales open at the moment.
There will be an announcement today actually about the extension of that,
but they have specifically chosen AVAX to come across
because of the technology, because of, you know,
the community and stuff.
And, you know, you hear the founder talk, like I think Ghost is right,
it's not dead.
I think it's not a one-size-fits-all.
Each project sort of has to choose, I guess, what they're doing.
I think, you know, if it's purely a meme, I think the whole fair launch model,
I think, definitely probably is more suitable within reason.
You know, the whitelisting that's coming to the arena
for, you know, different communities and stuff,
I think is going to be great.
And, you know, we are seeing the utility coins coming in.
So, you know, with these utility coins,
it's going to be within their own ecosystem,
there's going to be more things that come out of that.
So, you know, I think what Avalanche as a whole is building with,
you know, the technology with AI, the support it's giving
to the entire ecosystem, gaming as well, you know,
everything's kind of can coexist.
And I think that's something that's really important.
It's not, you know, this is better, that is better.
It's, you know, how can every funnel thrive
and coexist together?
Yeah, I guess it just depends on the project.
Like if they're building utility or Bitcoin,
it's really, you know,
depends what kind of structure they should choose.
But yeah, Greece, right over to you.
Yeah, thank you.
To me, it goes to show you
that the community really wants to get behind the project that's trying to do something, right?
I agree with Ghost and Suani in terms of the pre-sales.
To me, they just need to be polished.
And we just have to find a way to make it really, really fair and avoid all these bad actors and all that stuff.
But in terms of the community getting behind projects and all the hype that we've seen
so far with pre-sales and now with the arena, it goes to show you that there's life in the
chain, right?
And people want into these projects and they want to learn more and they want to expand
their portfolios into maybe gaming, like Sony was saying, or just a meme coin or just another DeFi project.
So I think this will grow, eventually will grow at an exponential rate.
But right now we are having a great time here and people are starting to see the potential of projects like GET and projects like Wink and Blub that reached very high market caps
and unfortunately, you know, went down. But that's part of the game too, right? People have to learn that as well.
Yeah, fair enough. I'm still holding my rest of the allocation of Wink.
Sad to see it, but you know, it happens. And we still got some profits from it as well.
Did you have a right over to you?
Yeah, no, I just wanted to tap in here
to not necessarily be the negative Debbie Downer here.
But one of my big concerns of our space right now
is just the oversaturization of really low effort meme coins
that are hitting the market.
I'm getting a lot of vibes here
from the early days of a pump fun happening on Solana.
And it feels like we're kind of drumming up the same narratives that we've seen before.
My concern is we all know how the story ends.
And I think we're all in here for the long term.
That's something that we should be prioritizing when we're featuring different tokens that are popping up on the timeline.
Yeah, I agree here.
And that's something I'm really interested in.
How's the narrative gonna shift?
Because so far what I've seen is that OGs launching the Mimicoins and people investing
into those Mimicoins because those are the OGs, they've already had reputation behind
them and people support them.
And that's the reason why people make money because everyone just trusts them.
And eventually we'll just run out of those OGs so I'm really curious how the
narrative will change after that but yeah guys what do you think about?
Yeah I have a perspective. How do I want to put this? To me it feels like
it's part of the plan. I'll explain what I mean. I think that this is my speculation.
I think it's informed speculation.
I could be wrong, but I want to clarify it's speculation.
I think that there's a plan, a very intentional plan, to really prop up and bring a lot of meme coin volume here.
I think you need the liquidity.
And DGENs, let's be honest,
most of the space are not investors. They're people who want to get rich quick. They're DGENs.
And they're probably not even that good of a traders. They're just gamblers, basically gamblers.
And they bring a lot of liquidity and volume. Now, here's where it's different.
Because my guess is that what AVAX will do will be moving forward be a little different.
Because they have a lot of these things in place, like the InfraBuild program that provides grants to AI projects.
They have Codebase, which is an accelerator. They have the scaffolding
to really be a developer of startups and tech. And I think that what they're going to do is very
smart, which is they're going to utilize the volume of DGENs to then, as the underlayer,
to then attract and keep attracting real builders keep attracting real builders they already have the
scaffolding of the support of builders the number one complaint of builders who want to launch a
token on avalanche prior was the lack of volume i know this because i've been in the trenches
on the business development trenches i know what they say the all the biggest counter argument to
launching on avalanche was always the volume.
So where the fuck are you going to get the volume?
It's not going to be from the investor class that reads, I don't know, like the Wall Street Journal.
It's going to be from the gambling addicts.
And really, the gambling addicts mostly lose money, but they bring the volume and the liquidity.
And I think what is going to be different is that avalanche is going to leverage it
funnel it towards their intents and purposes of developing their their builder accelerator model
and and keep attracting builders and it's going to come out as a different product
than what you see on solana that's my Yeah, this is an interesting perspective.
Did you hand the right over to you?
Yeah, no, I think Ghost brought up some really great points there.
I think it's absolutely fair.
There is definitely a larger design in mind with the way that Avalabs has been treating the building out of this ecosystem.
The other thing we have to know, though, is I think relying on DGEN and the gambling side of crypto is a real double-edged sword. It
brings in the liquidity, it brings in the volumes in the short term, but that liquidity inherently
is incredibly volatile and very, very passive and willing to jump to the next chain really quickly.
So I certainly think that that may be the greater plan here. I just hope we start having incentive
structures here that are going to funnel some of
that degen liquidity, maybe in an educational pathway towards more solid, actual, tangible
investments that are going to produce returns in the long term. Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, Codebase, for example, is in their fourth season. And they're launching a number, they're accelerating a number of
startups. And I onboarded 13 companies to apply to be part of the code base program. So I work
closely with the code base team, Michael Martin, who's the director there. So I'm a little bit
aware of sort of, they're growing in terms of like light speed.
I have zero concerns.
I really do.
I mean, I have zero concerns about the builder culture evaporating or disappearing.
I think it's only going to be, if they're smart, I think they will be.
they will be. I think it's only going to be enhanced by the volume. I see it as a kind of
I think it's only going to be enhanced by the volume.
a bifurcated dual system structure that Avalanche will have because it's the nerdy chain historically
where people are like, oh, it's great tech. And you go to a meeting and everyone is all talking
about stuff that no one else understands. And I think that avalanche is trying to create more culture
and more volume i'm repeating myself here but what i want to reiterate is i think it's more designed
and i think the final outcome will look different than solana i don't think avalanche will be
identified as the jeet dgen meme coin chain like solana is i don't think that's going to be the
final outcome i think that's my message yeah i think so too and you know it's kind of sad lately
to see that more like people with uh math bots and snipers trying to come to avanche and just
snipe the supply of those tokens like Many developers are facing some of the problems.
We've seen Daniel, he just tweeted yesterday after the wife launched it in the future when
he's going to release another coin from Anon, he's just going to have a few pairs and all
of them will be bundled so the snipers will not be able to catch it.
But it's not for all the developers because you need to actually money for that you know to bank these tokens so that snipers think that those are the legit ones and throwing money
so it's really interesting to see how how how the developers going to overcome those challenges as
well here but yeah you know i have a question here so for those people out there that have not joined
our trenches yet and you know they kind of want to explore
the ecosystem and join start trading you know invest into a utility coins or mimi coins wherever
they like you guys have been franches for quite some time like casus martinez gorillas funny
obviously goss as well greece and i'm really curious like what do you think should be the first steps
uh to join avalanche trenches, Avalanche ecosystems?
How to get started here?
Make an account on the arena and buy some tickets.
I sent a lot of people to buy tickets of Snake.
For example, like S...
I don't even know how to pronounce it.
S-S-N-A-K-E-E.
And, you know, when I was on Arena first, I was in his group chat.
I'm not as frequent there because just everything that's going on.
But I printed there. They're printing money bags, I think.
think is i'll tell you um who is who's another good one uh let me do a shout out of um
I'll tell you who is who's another good one.
another money bears money bears um is another good one there's a few tickets that may be up
to 10 avax which is 200 bucks i don't know you have to see join one of the group chats
and people are very active and degening.
And so you can just kind of follow.
I wouldn't just ape anything, but I would pay attention to who are the good callers.
Obviously, my group, I mean, I posted the receipts.
We had just a crazy, we had 140 calls in my group chat, AIVax.
just a crazy, we had 140 calls in my group chat, AIVax,
140 calls with average 680% returns.
I posted it.
You know, it was from like, you know, what do you call it?
Rick, Rick bot or whatever that you could, you could track it.
So there's a lot of good group chats.
I don't want to keep promoting myself, but there's a lot of easy.
It's easy. It's my point. It's not like some weird cabal where you have to like know the right people. I think it's easy to just jump right in. Everyone's friendly and just learn and kind of observe who are the good callers is my opinion.
my opinion. Yeah, I've seen those stats yesterday. To be honest, it's quite funny because like,
obviously, well, some of those tokens were just promoted, you know, because it's quite a huge
shot, like 500 people. So not all of them might have been researched. But if you take some time,
you know, to research the bundle tokens, there is a high probability that you're going to
It's a high probability that you're going to get in the profit.
get any profit. But yeah, Gorilla, right over to you.
But yeah, Gorilla, right over to you.
Yes. Sorry, I couldn't find the Twitter.
I mean, I'd say it is different than the Soul Trenches.
Like I said, it's slower.
So I feel it gives you time to ease into it.
I mean, not to show my...
Here, I'll show Jesus here.
Jesus made a great video on how to get
started with this. I also did. They're similar, but different steps of the video. But we both
kind of cover just... I mean, the way I'm trading is I'm just looking at bonded tokens and I'm
evaluating if those are good. Like Go said, you need to be on the Arena app. That way,
you can check who the founder is. And I'm kind of just watching those. I mean, I have a Telegram bot that pings me
whenever something's bonded, so I don't have to stare at my screen. If you're staring at your
screen, you're going to have more of an advantage. Tactical released a really good tool the other day
called Arena Pro. And it's kind of like Photon Bullocks and all that, where you have a terminal
that monitors all the
tokens that are bonding, that monitors everything that's about to graduate. So the tools are coming
along very fast to get better and better and get an advantage because I feel most people aren't
using these. So I would advise watch Jesus's video or my video or both. You know, we probably
have different tips and perspectives on things. And I think that'll give you a view from the
trader's mindset
because we both run through how we look at these tokens and evaluate them. But yeah,
you definitely need to be on Arena. You definitely need to be using trading tools because there's a
lot of lag issues, especially if everybody's going to a person's page. So you need to be using these
tools and that's going to allow you to get a better entry. And then it's, you know, like anything else, it's a muscle, right?
You have to work it.
Don't expect to make a million dollars on your first trade.
Don't spend a hundred AVAX on your first trade.
Like just look at it as your cost of tuition, go in low.
And I think you'll, you'll get it pretty quickly.
I think people will get this much faster than Solana trenching because Solana, it's like,
oh, this guy got a new dog or like this guy
got punched in the face and whatever the news is. And then people are trading that for 10 seconds
versus here. It's easier to understand. And yeah, just take the time, try to network with the right
people, try to find a really good group of people that are doing this every day. And then with time,
you're just going to get it. And if they aren't doing it for you, move on to the next group.
Don't get tied down to some group group just because you that was the first
one you got into and yeah you'll hopefully figure it out yeah i totally agree here like i've started
with a small amount and i was just you know learning uh at the beginning uh showing some
you know outlunch in different tokens to see if it goes well if it goes now and it's just you know
it's not a long process,
but you learn a lot from every trade.
So just start small and, you know, get into the right communities.
Swanee, right over to you.
I took my hand down because you guys kind of covered it.
It was just about getting started on Avalanche, really.
I think the biggest thing I always tell people,
and it goes, it's not even just Avalanche, it. I think the biggest thing I always tell people and it goes,
it's not even just Avalanche, it's anything.
Get involved in communities.
Find out who the people are, what communities you can get.
Grab a No Chilio, grab, you know, a Steady, grab whichever
or grab a couple of AVAX tickets.
Check the feed.
Follow people.
Just, you know, arenas like Twitter, like the feed is a similar setup.
And, you know, you get access to all these, you know, chats.
Like buy some, you know, meme coin.
There's always a Twitter group that's created.
And I think, you know, getting the alpha is great,
but you need to show that you're actually involved in the community as well
because, you know, if you're seen as someone that's just coming in
with liquidity and you want to extract, you want to get as much as well because, you know, if you're seen as someone that's just coming in with liquidity and you want to extract,
you want to get as much as you want, you know, get the fuck out.
Like I don't think Avalanche is for people like that.
It's always going to bring it.
But I think, you know, the strength that's here is good.
I mean, I'm always open to help people.
I mean, Ghost has given some great tips.
Everyone else has given some fantastic tips as well. But I think, you know, come in with purpose and be prepared to sort of put in a bit of effort yourself as well.
Nothing's really, you know, there's a lot of people in this space that just expect, you know, to be fed like mommy and daddy has done ever since they were born.
But that's okay.
It's just, yeah, look, that's it basically, bottom line.
Just get involved somehow.
I 100% agree here.
And check out those videos that I have been.
Like, literally, when I was starting out and my friends have been asking how to get into
Overwatch trenches, I was just hanging out with the videos from Hess Martinez.
And Gorilla has released some great videos as well.
And obviously, I follow Ghost for the real honest takes.
I follow Swanee for Alpha as well because Swanee was the one to get me into the average trenches initially.
But yeah, Hes Martin is right over to you.
So my friends, we see gold over the horizon.
We see gold for boundless miles, thousands of miles into the distance.
We try to see how the hell am I going to be the one to actually get this gold,
to extract the gold, to provide value for this gold.
So we went ahead.
I developed this bot, right?
And we filtered directly on one, followers, so the people selling the shovels,
and two, the people that are actually doing shit.
So the OG communities and the quote-unquote normie communities
are fractionalized at the moment.
And that's why we're not seeing PDP.
So if you're trying to learn the trenches, I think following the OGs, very useful.
You know, that's always a great resource. That's great.
But I feel like the new guys, you don't have three years worth of lore to digest in 15 seconds.
You got to just go to wherever the normie coins are and try to extract what is adjacent to whatever the hell you were doing before so if you're a soul trencher go to the normie coins stay over there for a little
bit eventually you'll learn the avac stuff but i'm like if i was new right now and i was already
trenching on salon or some other chain i would just try to find people that were in those trenches
that are now here and trying to figure this out and figure it out together because there are a lot
of memes for example good bridging is one of. I don't even know what the hell that thing
is. It's like from 2021, some random coin that got airdropped. I don't know what that was. Like,
I joined EVAX in 23. So me trying to figure that trade out is minus EV for me. But me trying to
figure out when Lambo, like, you know, I've got three brain cells. I can figure that out.
So just kind of stick to whatever you're,
whatever you could actually specialize and win on. It's a lot more simple than not. You don't need to be trained in a hundred K shitters. I'm like, I'm literally looking at our bot right now.
There's what a bond at 104 and like 12. It's one hour apart. It's not like it's bonding every five
seconds that you need to be locked in 24 seven. Like you have time, you have a lot of time. And
most of these launches are not even worth your time.
There's maybe one or two bonds
that will actually be profitable per day.
It's not Solana.
You don't need to overcomplicate your life.
Yeah, I totally agree here.
You don't need to have a lot of brain cells
to train in the orange ranges overall.
I don't have a lot of experience in tracing at all.
On salt ranges, I lost a lot of money.
But here it's kind of easy for me.
Some of you might think, I want Shaboos Dores selling that.
Guys, I don't have any inside information.
Literally, I don't even talk to our team on that level.
I'm just trenching myself and talking with my friends as well.
I'm just looking at the bonded tokens. I'm looking the OGs I look at who support who I look at the
reputation I look at who is active in the arena and that's it like I just basically sometimes
share the screen and um yeah has margins right over to you yeah I would just like to say that only someone in the cabal would say that. That's all.
All right.
Grace, right over to you.
Yeah, no, I agree with what was said here.
In terms of just join, double around, ask questions.
Everyone's just super willing to, you know, help you in terms of, hey, what is this?
I don't know this platform. Maybe, maybe you know give me some pointers or stuff like
that right and and what swanny said join a community there are some cheap nfts of great
communities that you can join and start from there um i like what you said jave uh start small don't
nape all your wealth into the trenches right because it's rough sometimes and just pay attention
and and start looking at profiles i think having social aspect to this platform is a huge advantage because you
can actually see who is doing what and when.
Right.
I mean,
that's just another of another layer of,
you know,
leveling the field for everyone in a way.
Right.
So I would just say try and become part of a community and start from there.
Don't be afraid to ask questions.
Yeah, totally agree here.
And let's talk about the OGs now.
So what do you guys think overall about the Avange tokens right now?
What are you bullish on?
What are some of the best Avange tokens that have been for a long time here already?
Jesus Martinez, right over to you all right i'm gonna give you the rundown as someone that may
or may not have a couple extra chromisms so here's what's going on right now we have utility coin
season and then we also have the normal coin season we also have the ancient coin season so
there are coins that have been around for 16 years and some nerd is cto-ing them because they have dead supply
and is hoping they pump that's one the second was utility coins the ones that are already getting
fees faro by far tons of revenue i think there was some weird metrics someone made up and it was very
bullish for the coin so i'm going to go ahead and go with that one um seems like they're making a
lot of money so that's a good thing there are other other things like LFJ. So LFJ has a
coin. And also, what is it? Banky has a coin. Banky, tons of people throwing money over there,
big TVL. And then at the same time, LFJ, a little bit older, but they're still kicking it. They're
still kicking it. Still getting good trading volume from some of the older pre-sale stuff, coins. Farah, I think, is a cook.
I also think, let's see here.
Hmm.
I also think AVAX eventually will be a cook, but we really need volume on AVAX.
Who the hell is, there's this guy, he loves sucking bananas.
What is his name?
He's just obsessed with bananas, and he's always tweeting out that Bitcoin's at $105K, AVAX is at $19.
And this is the guy keeping the peg down.
He's the one that's flooding our bag.
So we need to call this guy out.
Anyway, so in terms of more alpha, the newer coins, they're in terms of the OG coins,
Wolfie Kett, big old boys.
I think Kett goes to a billion.
I think Wolfie's going to cook because we got XL Baller.
We also got, of course, W wife has the Anon flywheel.
You've got like this Kaido cookie thing.
So if you like farming money, if you're one of those people that just likes to spam the
timeline with the word Kaido and the word cookie, then you're going to like that one.
And then we also have, what else?
I mean, we have ID.
So Integrity DAO has like $4 million right now in their treasury.
And I mean, if you have $4 million in your treasury and you're a $30 million market cap
coin, seems pretty good risk to reward.
So I mean, that's what I'm looking at.
Oh yeah, gaming.
So we have NXPC, which is MapleStory's game.
They just put out an update because they had a bunch of hackers doing end game items, which
is not good for the economy.
Apparently the token bounced and they got a couple listings.
So I'm looking at that one. I don't know if it's gonna make it but I am scoping it because maybe they'll actually figure out their shit
they have a hundred million dollars raised from Nexon so it'll be kind of
hard to fuck up honestly apparently I've seen around like the reason why an XPC
bounce today because Tencent offer offered a deal to next time to buy them out
So we'll see how it goes like they have some of the issues right now with the hackers and etc
But if they fix them up then they have a great future and also you forgot about the Lambo. Oh
Yeah, yeah, yeah, never forget about the Lambo
But also I'm flooring all my MapleStory assets, so good trade.
I'm going to definitely engagement farm.
I think it's like 12K sell on my character, so that's coming up soon.
Yeah, I was kind of surprised to see that fire pump to $700 per token,
like today or yesterday.
So they're cooking, they're cooking.
And every now,
it's nice.
Holy shit,
it actually sold.
Wait,
I'm the biggest sale
in all of MapleStory universe
right now.
Like literally,
like if you look at the,
Cozy's the number one sale.
Holy shit,
I'm going to definitely tweet this.
Man,
I swear you see squirrels
like every two seconds.
Yeah,
I have undiagnosed ADHD.
So bullish.
So real.
Everyone in the trenches has.
Gurino, what about you?
What are you looking into?
What are the narratives that you're following right now?
And maybe some of the talking that you're looking at.
I mean, I'm all over the place, right?
I'm on different chains.
I'm covering different things. So on AVAX right now, I mean I mean other than Avax it's one of my biggest holdings and I
actually continue DCAing in it um I mean I'm trading these memes I'm in and out I'm I am
holding some my biggest ones right now are wife and Lambo I mean I just showed them uh while on
the spaces and then I have some other ones I'm down on my my Gurs here but I
guess because I upgraded with the Lambo and the wife you know your girls your Gurs however you
say it uh it's you can't have those anymore I also got some snow like the founder is live streaming
and stuff doing some art uh so I'm hoping some of those pump and I'm just looking for new coins
to be honest I'm not really uh spreading my money too much. I like to be in majors. The whole
cycle, I was in Bitcoin pretty much. And then I have some Sol, ETH, and now Avalanche. So I'm
not going too heavy into a ton of tokens down the line. I'll wait for... I keep hearing altcoin
season, altcoin season every 10 minutes when I open YouTube. So when it actually does arrive,
then I'm going to go down the line. But than that this has been a trader's market so i'm trying to trade in and out of all
this stuff but not bag hold and that's you know meme coins alt coins nfts across the board we've
we've been struggling in this cycle if alt season will arrive but yeah so it'll pump nTs, so I really hope it does come, but it's been depressing.
Yeah, for sure. I hope so, too.
And Ghost, now right over to you.
Tell us a little bit about what you're looking into.
Obviously, you're focused on Ivax.
Ivax is a great community for the AI and for the people that are changing right now as well.
And I'm personally in this community, too.
Maybe some of the alpha, you know, spill the tea. Well, to be honest, and this is what I enjoy, I've been, or ideally I'd be
spending most of my time doing business development type of stuff, which is talking to projects that
want to onboard. We've already onboarded two projects, Agent XYZ and Pandora. We have others
in the pipeline that haven't been announced.
There's a lot of stuff. I enjoy that piece of it on the back end. In terms of what I'm holding,
I think Wolfie is going to do, I mean, this is not NFA, do your own research. I can't,
I have no idea. But I think a lot of us believe Wolfie will do very good. It's an OG AVAX meme.
think a lot of us believe Wolfie will do very good. It's an OG AVAX meme. And the founder is
Excel Baller is really, you know, pumping it and it's not going to quit. He's an OG.
I'm holding wife because I think Danny will keep pumping it. I miss Lambo.
Look, I'm too mid-curve. Like, I never wanted a Lambo.
I never dreamt of it.
So the meme didn't resonate like it does for some.
So I mid-curved that one.
I hold some utility, like I think B-Jub.
B-Jub will be a hub for privacy coins.
It's cheap now.
It's 1.5 mil.
So there's a lot of...
I was early to ID,
for example. I was early to a lot of
stuff, and that's a good coin
too, and I just think there's
really good coins right now. I think that
there's very promising coins in the ecosystem
that are going to continue to run.
Yeah, I think, you know, Obvious bet is Arena.
You know, you guys should look into it.
And everything that we are telling here is obviously not financial advice.
Do your own research.
But these are some of the tokens that we personally hold and so we think got potential.
But Swanee, right over to you.
What am I saying? But Swanee, right over to you.
What am I saying?
Tell us about your bags. Yeah, me too.
My bags?
Yeah.
Oh, show my bags.
It's a chance to show.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
So here's a funny story.
I actually got in Lambo and the Frog one, Frog Nation, like crazy early.
Lambo was like 700K or whatever, 800K, but it was because of Danny's tweet.
And then I saw the Frog one.
He literally tweeted a frog and I got a 27K.
I don't hold either of them.
I actually got out of Lambo last night and rotated
back down into um uh the lower caps um I do want to be able to you know position in Lambo but um
you know I I wanted to take advantage of the the really big dips on ID um I've got entry on that
I was in Oman enjoying my non um online life for a a week when the arena launch pad actually launched.
So I finally got entry.
The Wear ID hit overnight is basically the lowest it's been in weeks.
So I went there.
Wolfie, I got entry as well.
I missed launch the other day so I was able to finally get there.
And then, of course, Wife.
I've just been sort of nibbling away at that.
I think the lowest entry I got was about 8 mil.
I slept through the really big dip because I'm in the EU at the moment.
Yeah, I mean, that's where I'm at.
And I'm actually sort of just looking at NFTs at the moment, to be honest.
Like, I'll be really honest with you.
Like, at Summit, I had a really good
conversation with Kaleo and, you know, hearing his sort of thesis
on Avalanche and, you know, the NFT run that essentially will come,
you know, that's something that I'm really starting to look into
because there are some, you know, NFT collections.
You go back and you look at what the tops were for all of them, the OG coins, stuff like that, you know,
arena where it's at, you know, I do think it's going to continue to go up,
but I do think that once it does hit a sort of parabolic thing,
people are going to take profits, there's going to be a rotation
in champions, there's going to be new ones coming in,
which I think, you know, it hasn't really happened yet.
I would really, I'm sort of waiting for that to see what happens.
So, I mean, yeah, they're kind of my bags at the moment.
I have MIM as well, Magic Internet Money.
You know, I think, you know, Clover has mentioned about, you know,
he's actually going to build something for, you know, some kind
of analytics dashboard for RWAs and I'm a bit of an RWA nerd and, you know, for those
that, you know, were obviously at Summit and everything, the creators were also really
fortunate to sit down with Gunn for an hour and when he was sort of asked what, you know,
with Gooden for an hour and when he was sort of asked what, you know,
what's sort of something he's most excited for and focused
on the next 12 months, RWA as mentioned, you know,
the Wyoming stablecoin as well have that built in.
So, you know, that's my reasoning behind why I've been building
a position on MIM.
And there's another one that I just kept DCAing
and I've now got like a stupid amount of it.
Actually, before I do that, while I find it, Snib,
Ghost, I got distracted.
I wasn't listening, but I don't know if you mentioned Snib,
but I'm bullish on that.
I mean, Marco's founder of, sorry, Mato, Marco's his brother.
Mato is the founder of DGNC on virtuals.
He's OG virtuals, AI.
He's doing Sniv as well.
Time is the one that I DCA'd crazy on.
So, yeah, look, my joke is that, guys, if you buy a bit of everything,
you're going to end up being up.
My bags, I had like 30 tokens the other day.
So it's not, that's basically my bags right now.
You own the Avalanche blockchain is what you're saying.
Yeah, basically.
So don't do a swanny and end up having like 40 tickers in your wallet.
I got a bit overwhelmed and ended up just nuking a heap
so I could focus on some of these existing ones.
But yeah, that's my bags.
I have a few NFTs as well.
Yeah, Swanee, you mentioned Snib.
I hold 1%, right?
So about $100 million.
I think I'm going to make a lot of money on that.
It's like $400K right now.
Me too.
I think it's going to go to at least two million because because i don't know
maybe he's reviving krababa man like i think i don't know as are you gonna you want to call this
cabal i think we know some things that make us bullish in terms of what they're building so i
mean i don't look when i say i'm bullish i i don't dump on anyone so if I sell it it's not like I'm gonna sell it right now yeah
so um but I am bullish and I hold a lot I think it's I think it's a thing and you know I had I
had um someone the other day that's now got a disgusting amount of supply as well because
you know they sort of asked me if I was bullish and you know Ghost and I have been really fortunate
that we're you know I'm I'm well I'm fortunate to be part of um you know ghost ghost
um you know AI group has got some really notable people in there and um you know the founder of
Snib is in there so we've had the privilege of being able to to spend some time with him and
he was also at Summit so sort of know you know what he's building what the kind of builder he
is seeing what he's done with DGNC already that he's operating. And, you know, he's OG Avalanche as well.
He's been more behind the scenes.
He's been to every summit, which, you know, a lot of you probably
wouldn't have known.
So, look, yeah, I'm bullish on that.
I think it is one of the tokens that has been heavily,
heavily impacted because of rotation.
So what I do say to people especially ones like that like you know
the the dips are there and they're going to continue to be there so just nibble away don't
don't full port into it don't go here's 10k bang and then be like oh my bags are down like no crying
the casino guys come on um you know nibble away um and do it and look yeah I'm a bit of a hard
ass with stuff like that I mean guys guys just see me the last few days in AIVACs.
You know, we've got the people, we all know each other,
but you've got the new people in.
Oh, you shared this.
It's like, well, I didn't tell you to buy the top, right?
So it's all about the education and whatever else.
But, yeah, look, Snib, I'm really bullish on purely because of, you know,
the guys are really open, follow the account, you know,
100% character reference from that.
Look at what DGNC is sitting at on virtuals.
Reach out to Mato.
Reach out to Marco.
If anyone knows Marco, 100xPolo on Twitter, Gamer.
Again, he's behind the scenes on all this stuff.
Like, if you guys know them, hit them up.
Have a chat.
They are more than willing to do that and you will find that most people
in the arena, I'm not going to say everyone, but most people
in the arena that are running projects are more than welcome
to have a conversation.
There isn't this like founder privilege, seniority, whatever,
where they're just like whatever, like you're below me,
people will have those conversations.
And it's exactly why Summit was amazing because you've got people
in the C-suite, people at Avalabs, you've got people
that are genuine community members, you've got creators.
We were all together.
And it was just fucking amazing.
And that's what Avalanche is online.
It's what feeling I got online and all of that so again
my dms are open as well don't ask me dumb stuff don't ask me for stuff that you you know come
with something that you know i can actually help you with if it's something that i can you know
ask ask questions to learn um but just don't ask can you have this because i'm not going to give
it just come with
some good information. People will always help you if you're not silly about it, right? You know,
we want to onboard as many as possible. So there's my little rant. I love Avalanche. I'm across many
chains. But this is my personality at the moment. And yeah, I just, I mean, I'm looking through who is in this stage.
It's bloody awesome.
Yeah, so many great people out there today.
And, you know, you said it right.
Like, initially, I didn't even know, like, you, so I have not talked to you a lot before.
And Gorilla, too.
Like, how I imagine Gorilla is basically a true
it has a smart device because we're just
basically in the community together.
And Ghost as well.
Our first spaces was before the Ivox.
So if you're actually helping out the people,
if you're trying to provide some value,
just chat with people out there.
Just try to help and get into the communities, into
AVOX communities. Don't hold
all of your eggs
in one bag.
Just learn.
If you guys have a hard stop
right now, just let me know because I think
15 or 20 minutes more,
I just want to cover a few more
topics, specifically problems
of the AVOX changes right now.
And also we will sum up everything we've talked about today.
And yeah, just let me know.
Seems like everyone is good right now.
Greece, we have not talked about your bags.
Essentially, I do a swanny with everything,
right? I just basically put
a little into most
things because I feel like
well, not
I feel like. I've seen, you know,
tokens that I was just eyeing and then I
go to sleep and the next day they run, right?
So I just kept on missing on
things and I was like, okay, I have
the filter of who is behind it
so that's a good one if i know the person or i have some information like swanny said right we
we have the most of the avax information uh right now honestly is you know goes in the in the avax
will chat there's great colors there um so to, it's more about the tokens and the people behind the tokens, right?
If the token is doing something like Clovers with Magic Internet Money,
I think that's an easy one, right?
Snave, I have.
And there's another that you guys didn't mention that I like
because of retarded reasons.
I think there's a
mini-meme, but there isn't
a JSON meme that's actually
sent.
I've been DCAing into
this JSON Desimoon
token, which actually launched
on May 10th,
and then the developer
rocked, and now it's been
CTO'd.
For retarded reasons, I think that token could eventually send.
But don't follow me on there.
Like what Swanee said, it's just like,
I put my money into everything, guys.
I've lost so many, many, many tokens.
But at the same time, I've picked up, you know, great winners.
I got in like 11K in Frog Nation.
And then I found, I like, I put in a heavy bag on Lambo at 5 mili.
So I've done some good decisions and overall I'm winning.
But I wouldn't recommend, you know, doing my technique,
which is, you know, the Swannery way.
Yeah, and I think important to mention, like,
you don't need to be right away at the launch to win, to buy the tokens.
Because, like, I bought WIFE 30 minutes after the launch yesterday, and I'm up to X from my entry.
And, like, I basically top lost it at $7 million.
Same was with Wolfie.
Same was with other tokens as well. Like, you know,
there are some runners, there are some great tokens, you know, there are some OGs building
great coins, you know, products, etc. So, you know, just follow the trenches. And, you know,
we have not talked about the problems of the trenches, actually. And I'm curious to hear, like,
your perspective, guys. What do you think are the biggest problems that we have right now?
Is it like the sniping of the tokens or basically OG is just running the Mimicoins or we don't have enough utility tokens?
Hesus, right over to you.
Yeah, it's literally just the sniping. I mean if my bot can detect people's followers then I'm pretty sure everybody else probably can as well.
So I've been telling people this for a while, but I feel like it's, I mean, you guys aren't going to like this when I say it,
but you kind of need to rug your own coin a couple times to filter out the snipers.
I know it's just like a weird thing to say, but if you run a coin and you have a very popular,
like if I lost a coin, for example, 200k followers, it's going to get fucking gonna get fucking sniped to shit people are gonna get dumped on make millions of dollars on you like you need
to filter these guys out before you actually properly launch so i'm guessing the future is
these guys are gonna launch their coins they're gonna die a couple times extract the avax and then
quote unquote say they're gonna buy back which they're not gonna do the buybacks but you know
we need to a trip to dub Dubai and it needs to be free.
So we need to say that we're doing buybacks.
And, of course, you need to get the golden visa.
A couple of things you need to get in the route of going to Dubai properly.
But after you do the whole rugging thing, you post the CA.
And if people still trust you then, then I think we're good to go.
So that's probably the future where this is going.
Unless, and this is a recommendation if Jason's listening, we hide their socials until after bond. I know. Pre-bond,
no socials. After bond, socials. Very interesting. Yeah, Jason, I hope you hear it. I'll forward
the spaces to you so that you listen to this specific clip. Okay, Gorilla, what about you?
What do you think about the current problems? Is it this specific clip okay gorilla uh what about you what do you think about
the current problems is it this happening for you as well or are you worried about something else
um i mean i i haven't played enough here uh to to really say the problems um i mean i there was
one guy who got in he got like five percent but I don't even think that was
I wouldn't call it sniping he was just good like he was using an alert bot and he bought it really
quickly and he goes in with crazy size because he's an animal so um yeah you know there's
definitely going to be issues I mean how did Wolfie do it uh Jesus maybe you know because
didn't if I'm not mistaken oh I know he just bought up the entire supply he bonded it and everything yeah so i mean i guess maybe there's strat maybe there's
like a a launch maybe there's an option where the platform could give you that hey you could buy up
some of your supply and then you could decide to airdrop it or something i can can i just i can
add to that um i can add to that um i i actually was on the call um with um uh the triple o games team
and arena yesterday um because you know that the launch is going to be through there and you know
that's you know going to be it's not a secret it's i'm just going to say it but um we were talking
about um you know do we do we go through Dex or do we go through Arena Launchpad?
And the beauty about going through Arena Launchpad is that people can't snipe.
It's more fair launch.
You can snipe by buying it.
You can't snipe by botting it.
What Arena are doing, and it's, you know, public in group chats and stuff,
is that they're actually adding more anti-snipe features
that are coming in a couple of weeks, and they're actually going more anti-snipe features that are coming in a couple of weeks and they're actually going
to add a whitelist-only thing as well.
And what Ghost and Moonbags did with the whitelist-only thing
for AIVACs, I think they set a standard there
and I think we're going to see a lot of that rolled out
on a lot of launches.
You know, if people know that a launch is coming, if people know the ticker,
if people know that a time is going to happen, you know,
there's all different ways of doing it.
You know, the old way is really, you know, running multiple, you know,
different, you know, launching a bunch of tickers and then adding LP
to different ones, pulling it, putting it back in
and doing it.
But, you know, the safest way right now, and this is, you know,
what, you know, Jason and the team continue to say is to go through
the launch pad because of, you know, you just can't,
you snipe it by buying it on Arena Launch.
You can't snipe it by botting it right now.
People are getting smarter and so they're building that out
to do that.
If you're launching at Fair Launch on Arena Dex, it's GG.
Like, look what Ip For I did on Wife, you know, Games Game.
He prints six figures daily just about um you know he's a
professional sniper evm solana whichever like you know these guys they they literally watch the
pulls and you know their nodes and their snipers that they've got the minute lp's added that they
do it so um you know you have to build around what they do um you know it's great they're it's not
great they're able to do it but it's you know, not illegal to do it either.
It's just making sure that, you know, people don't just blind trust
that they've got the best option.
It's going, okay, these guys are the best.
Don't try and overpower them.
How can we get around that?
And use what's available to you.
So, you know, I think I definitely recommend, you know,
anyone that's listening and teams that are, you know,
looking to launch, reach out to the Arena team.
Obviously, don't spam ghosts and DMs, but, you know,
there is ways to have a chat to him and Moonbags, you know,
about their options as well.
You know, speak to Boff.
Everyone knows Boff.
He's basically, he's BD at Arena.
He's Jason's right arm.
He's more than contactable.
You'll probably hate me for saying this, but reach out to him.
He won't.
He's lovely.
They want people and teams to succeed.
But don't try and beat the system
and think that you know better.
Have a bit of humble pie and ask the right people to do it.
Slow down, take your time.
And it's not Solana, guys.
It's Avalanche.
People actually fucking help you.
Like, excuse my French, but people are willing to help you,
and they will.
So, yeah.
Facts. Jesus Martinez and Gorilla, and Svani especially. are willing to help you and they will so yeah facts has this martinez and gorilla and swania especially like you guys have been creating some really great guys for the people out there
and posting about the things that you're invested into and like what you're specifically doing
in avax ranges and like i personally learned a lot from you guys. And I'm not chilling anyone here, even though I'm a host.
But I've been starting out from watching, reading Jesus Martinez and Suoni.
And now Gorilla as well.
But yeah, Gris, what about you?
What do you think about the problems right now?
And we'll be closing out at this stage with a summary after it.
Yeah, well, the snipers are a big big thing i'm not a big tech guy or anything
i don't know much about you know how the blockchain works or anything just the the more classical
trencher right but i think seeing a lot of you know bots uh when a new token comes out to me it's
like a red flag a major red flag right even if it's like a good ticker, I stay out of it because I've seen many tokens now bonding
and maybe going to 300, 400k and then immediately dumping, right?
So I think the snipers or the people behind the sniping of tokens are getting smarter in terms of,
okay, let's bond this, let's print more on it, and then
dump it at half milli, right? So I would just be cautious of that. That's what I've noticed.
Yeah, well said, Gris. Now to sum up this space, today we've talked about launch trenches,
how to get started, what are the right tools for it, what are the problems right now, and what are the projects that we're personally watching as well, and how to get
into the trenches. So just to sum it up, you know, first of all, you just need to get on the arena,
basically. You need to join some of the communities, you know, there are some really great ones, you
can buy tickets on the arena from some of the biggest people out there.
You need to follow Avalanche OGs as well.
And obviously, like IVAX, there are some other great communities as well.
Check out what are the other people posting about Avalanche, like Jesus Martinez, Gorillaz,
Lani, myself, I'm posting some stuff as well.
There are some communities like Cookout Club too posting about the Avange
and Gable communities too. There is
Wolfies, you know, Cosiverse.
And then, you know,
talking about the tools, there is
Arena Pro that Tactical Retreat
released just recently where you
can check who is the creator of the token.
You can always check when it's bonding,
you know, how much F2 bonds.
It's a really great trading terminal as well.
There are some other tools like Mavericks, so you can check it out as well.
You know, pre-sale meta kind of ended, but there are still some projects running out,
running this meta, like Triple O Games, right?
Was that the name of the project, Smiley?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And then, you know, people are running utility tokens, people are running
maybe cons, people are running gaming tokens, and you basically just need to
see the narrative. You need to see who are building which stuff, you know, if
there is a great utility, if there is people backing it, know if they're
all protective on the arena, they already have reputation behind them, if there is great
volume, if there is good new
shows. Personally, I'm checking some of the
projects like ID,
invested into FAR, into the
arena, there is great OG,
Mimiko and CAT, obviously. Some of the
new coins like Lambo,
Wolfie and Wife as well.
And yeah, there is
obviously problems in the arena and and in the outlunch
trenches too like with the sniping right now but some of the developers are trying to overcome it
with creating multiple tokens at the same time like they did with winclounge and some other
matches as well swanny you want to add something as well i was just gonna to say, obviously with Triple R, I'm going to drop the homepage of their Twitter under the spaces.
The pre-sale for that will be extended for a few more days.
But what I just wanted to say as well, and I hope you don't mind,
take your time to read about the project and read into the founder,
Isidro, and look at what his extended bio is on twitter and please
apply i honestly like i am so incredibly bullish on this team have been for a very long time um
i've known them for a few months now um i've just been helping them because i believe that they
deserve to be out there um and be be be known and get more attention than what they're
currently getting. And so, you know, seeing projects and people like that, like a dev that's
got such a crazy background, but is so community minded as well. You know, they're the people that
we want to see. They're the people that we want to shine and people that we want to, you know they're the people that we want to see they're the people that we want to shine and people that we want to you know lift especially within the ecosystem so you know the advice that
i can say for projects that you do see do your digging do your due diligence um make your own
mind up um and you know just yeah it's it's. Utility tokens, memes have their place,
but the utility that Arena's already given,
that other projects have already given,
even just from a social aspect,
is by far greater than a lot of other chains.
So, yeah, it's pretty exciting.
But, yeah, I'll drop that there now for you and for everyone
so they can see what's going on there.
Yeah, sounds great.
And when are the applications ending, by the way?
So the tweet actually says that they end today in technically 45 minutes.
That is not the case.
There is an arena alignment coming out messaging shortly.
They'll be extended to, I believe, believe the 17th which is another three days
um you know that there is um a game side of things if you're familiar with battle derby people have
been farming that for months but they are also on the arena they also do have nfts um and they have
been on the arena for a while so there's a bit of alpha there for you guys I'm not going to say too much more um but definitely you know if you want to have a chance at um that will be you know I am supporting
them um and it's been extremely discretionary um probably until about yesterday where you know I
am you know helping them more in official capacity but, you know, yeah, I'm bullish on teams that do this.
I'm bullish on teams that come and go, this is what we can provide
and, you know, prepared to do.
And they've taken their time.
They haven't dropped it and just said, hey, we're doing this in a week.
They're making sure that everything is, every dot and every T,
every I is dotted and every T is crossed to make sure everything is done.
The other side of things too, it is going to be the first utility token
in crypto that is going to be fully regulated under the EU MICA regulations.
So basically, I think the TLDR on on that is basically it's unruggable
um and there's a bunch of other things so you know there's huge contracts big legal stuff like
it's it's it's it's pretty it's pretty cool um and there's going to be a game that's going to
launch in uh the arena app store as, which is basically ready to go,
which is pretty sick.
So, yeah, it's just exciting to have such teams come across, right?
So, yeah.
Yeah, I'll apply to the ads as well.
Appreciate you for sharing that.
And Texas Martinez, Gris, do you want to add anything else to our summary here or some last thoughts just have fun with it guys um
find the community that suits you best find your tribe find your quote-unquote cabal right everyone
creates their own cabal it's not about joining anywhere it's not about finding the secret recipe it's about just paying
attention to to the people who are here for the long run and who have been here for the long run
right and just have fun with it be careful all as well right with drugs and everything we are not
safe of anything just um yeah be mindful of that and Swanee said, I feel like everyone is just willing to give you information and
tips and help you out if you need anything.
My DMs are open.
I'm not sending any money, like Swanee said, but I'm giving you like, if you need information
or guidance, I can hopefully, you know, help you or anything.
But I'm not sending any free money.
Well said.
I'm not sending any free money. Well said. I'm not sending free money as
well, so you guys just can check out all the public information and do with it. Whatever you
want to be honest, it's just useful information that helps you to start in the average trenches.
And Jesus Martinez, last thoughts, right? Yeah, if you do decide to change your mind,
decide to change your mind i'll take the free money
I'll take the free money.
sounds great i'll take the free money too but yeah guys thank you so much for joining us today
uh no i think it was a really awesome session like run down how to get started into avalanche
trenches how to join you know do check out the content from hess martinez from swanny
you know join the communities like took out club or ivox or some other ones um check out the content from Hess Martinez, from Swanee. Join the communities like Cookout Club or iVox or some other ones.
Check out the videos from Gorilla as well.
Check out the Honestakes from Ghost.
Join the arena, start trenching with us together.
And just help each other as well.
Create your own community.
Start trenching together.
That's how we started here
so now
you know thank you so much again
and I'll actually
be thinking about doing those spaces
more often because I think
it's really education it helps people
to start and yeah
then see you next week on Friday
let's do it on 1pm
1pm ESTST every Friday
I think that's a great time
I appreciate you guys
thank you Dave
thanks mate
thank you, take care guys
