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ALS Fundraiser l #AMA w. #MLB Legend Curt Schilling l Claim a FREE NFT
Recorded: April 18, 2023 Duration: 1:36:18Space Recording
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Hey, how's it going?
Hey, everybody.
How are you guys doing?
Thank you for joining us tonight.
We are here with a very beautiful panel, and we'll be joined by Kurt Schilling in just a
moment.
So if you guys can just introduce you guys, we got Eric from Cosmos Spaces, we have Cosmos
Joe, we got Cosmos Hoss, and we've got Zoe from The Giving Block.
So thank you guys all for joining me today.
I'm Cheb from Omniflix, aka Ken, whatever you want to call me, either one.
And I guess what I would ask is if you could be so kind as to share this on your own social
accounts as well to get people in here a little bit more quickly.
We had about 120 RSVPs, so I'm sure we'll have a pretty good audience tonight.
And Kurt will be joining us in about, I'd say about 15 minutes, and we'll be good to go.
Can you just give me a second?
I'm just going to get a couple of things pinned up here in the space so that people can submit
questions for the AMA portion of it.
And then we'll be good to get rocking and rolling here.
But Zoe, if you could introduce yourself first and just talk a little bit about The Giving
Block and how you guys are working with us on this to make sure that the ALS Association
is able to get their donations and do so in a compliant manner through crypto, that would
be amazing.
Yeah, of course.
Thanks for having me, Ken.
Yeah, as you said, my name is Zoe.
I do Web3 partnerships for The Giving Block.
If you don't know, in short, The Giving Block helps nonprofits accept crypto donations.
But the cool thing is, beyond just providing the technology for them to accept crypto, we're
also very focused on providing resources, education, one-to-one support so that those nonprofits
can actually engage within crypto communities like the Cosmos and OmniFlix community and successfully
fundraise.
And of course, one of those nonprofits is the ALS Association.
They've had a lot of success in the crypto space.
And I think that having a big name like Curt Schilling that's kind of outside of the crypto
space brings a lot of legitimacy and excitement to spread awareness and fundraise for that nonprofit,
which does such critical research.
I'm sure we'll get into a bit of the research they do and the disease itself and the havoc
that it can wreak and why it's so important that we fundraise and raise awareness.
But yeah, I'm happy to be here.
Thank you so much for that.
I appreciate it.
And let me see.
I guess Cosmos Joe did not.
Oh, OK.
I had that's I can't invite multiple co-hosts, I guess.
So one second.
Sorry.
Sorry, Joe.
I'll bring you up here.
And I guess I'll have you as a speaker then.
Did not know that there was a maximum of three or two co-hosts on Twitter spaces.
You learn something new every day.
So thank you for that, Joe.
You should have just gotten an invite.
And Eric, if you can introduce Cosmos Paces and then Cosmos House and assuming Cosmos Joe
gets up here and let him introduce himself as well.
Yeah.
My name is Eric and I sometimes go by Eric.
I am one of the co-founders of Cosmos Paces.
We focus on educating the community and we have our own validators that we also have.
We also do AMAs with different projects and we just like to reach out to projects, make
connections.
And that's what we've been doing for the past year and a half now.
So just, you know, always involved in Cosmos and just trying to to keep building with it
along with everyone.
And that you guys do and you do a phenomenal job of it.
So thank you guys for that and your contributions to the community.
And thank you for being here tonight representing for the spaces of Cosmos.
Yeah.
Cosmos House.
And Cosmos House.
Hey, what's your turn, sir?
Hey, what's going on, everyone?
Cosmos House here.
I know Eric.
I initially started doing Twitter spaces with the Cosmos Space team and then sadly had to
separate.
But no hard feelings.
They're doing an amazing job.
There's quite a few people, including Joe, that, you know, cover Cosmos as a whole.
I think we're all kind of soldiers.
We love crypto.
We love Cosmos.
We love the communitarian part of it.
In today's space, I'm really looking forward to it because it's kind of funny.
I played Division I baseball four years and started it.
And actually, one of the reasons I end up going to the school I went to is because of the Boston
Red Sox and Kurt Schilling.
And it's kind of cool that he's into, you know, crypto, maybe just the NFT or whatnot.
But it's kind of cool that he's, you know, has a project in Cosmos.
And so that's kind of my little too long, do not read little rant right there.
But I'm excited today to talk and just listen and maybe learn something today, too.
Thank you, sir.
And Cosmos Joe, welcome to the stage, sir.
Hey, chef.
Thanks for having me up.
Yeah.
Just like Haas said, I'm definitely looking forward to learning quite a bit today.
I love that someone like Kurt Schilling is putting his name and reputation out there to
kind of leverage NFTs.
I think it's much needed in the space.
And, you know, when I was a huge baseball fan, it was like the prime of his career.
And it's just amazing that someone like that who really doesn't have to lift a finger in
retirement is so active and also active in technology.
So I think this is going to be a really fun space.
I agree with you.
I'm definitely looking forward to it.
So I'm about to post a Google form on the space here so that everybody can go ahead
and respond with their questions to Kurt.
And that's kind of just the way they're going to try to do the process so that it's not
like a free-for-all.
At some point, we might open up the floor and just let people come up and talk.
You know, the only thing that we would ask is that, you know, we try to, you know, keep
things in a, I guess, professional and respectful, you know, in a respectful tone and whatnot.
I understand people have political and, you know, political views and such, but that's
not really the goal of the space today is to go down that rabbit hole.
So if, you know, if you want to come up and ask Kurt a question, just ask that you be
respectful to him and, you know, understand that he's here because he wants to do something
good for humanity and he wants to do something for a cause that he's been an avid fighter
for for the last over 30 years.
He's raised close to $20 million for the ALS Association over the course of his career as
a public figure.
So, you know, whatever gripes you may have with him in terms of his political views, not
really the, like, forum for that, I guess you could say.
So, but any questions that you're wanting to ask him, I'm sure he will answer them honestly
because it's the one thing that you can guarantee that you'll get from Kurt is honesty.
So, yeah, I just would appreciate that.
And if anybody has any questions and then our co-host here will be also at the beginning
asking questions to Kurt and talking to him along with me about the campaign that he's
running here on Omniflix, which will be going live on June 2nd.
That's Lou Gehrig's day on the MLB calendar.
And the cool thing with this is so there's two NFTs that he's going to be releasing.
One of them, I'll let him talk about the NFTs directly.
And then there's going to be two NFTs that he's releasing.
And then we were lucky enough to be able to shoot the start of like a mini series, I guess
you could call it, called Minting for Hope, which is the campaign that we have here at
Omniflix for using NFT technology to support a public good or to serve a public good.
And it's really important to us that we utilize the technology for good and find ways to help
humanity and help people that are less fortunate.
And just to give you a quick overview, if you're not familiar with ALS and you just know
about the Ice Bucket Challenge, it's a absolutely just debilitating disease.
And I think Kurt put it perfectly when, you know, during the show that we did with him
where he interviewed Jimmy Poole, who is a former Major League Baseball player as well.
And he, you might know him from, you know, if you're older, you might remember him from 1995.
He's the one that gave up the home run to David Justice in the World Series to win the
World Series for the Atlanta Braves.
He was on the Cleveland Indians.
And he was diagnosed with ALS about three years ago.
And he joined us with his wife, Kim, on Minting for Hope.
And I personally did not really understand the true, you know, nature of the disease in full
until I saw, you know, until I saw Jimmy.
And it's just heartbreaking because you don't understand the way that this is for a person
with ALS.
And I don't think you can unless you actually are, you know, God forbid, diagnosed with
But your body is just slowly shutting down on you little by little.
And it's a muscular disorder, degenerative muscular disease.
And the last things to go are your lungs.
So you essentially suffocate to death.
And all the meanwhile, your brain is just as sharp as it was the day before you got diagnosed.
And, you know, so you're there watching yourself essentially become a burden to your loved ones
where your, you know, your loved ones have to do everything for you from get you out of
bed in the morning to, you know, to bathe you, to feed you, to clothe you, to do everything
that you, you know, as a former major league baseball player or just, you know, a normal
person, you know, you're used to doing things for yourself when you wake up in the morning
and getting out of bed and going and taking a shower and, you know, making breakfast and,
you know, going on with your day.
And now you're sitting there watching, you know, the emotional and physical and financial
difficulties that your family now has to go through.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
And that's, to me, the hardest part with this disease.
And I don't know if any of you guys have any, you know, input on that or, you know, if
you guys were aware of, like, how the disease progresses and how tough it can be for,
uh, people that have it in their families, but it truly is, uh, it's, it's a very, it's,
it's very hard to deal with for the family financially.
It's a huge burden.
Um, and that's a lot of the, you know, that's a lot of what the ALS association also helps
with, um, you know, the families, uh, who, you know, after the, the individual passes,
they are helpful to the families as well, but, uh, Zoe and then everybody else, uh, you
know, if you would like to chime in on that.
Um, I definitely think, uh, the family aspect is really key to remember, um, ALS association
and a lot of nonprofits that are in, you know, kind of health space, uh, whether it be for
ALS or cancer or other terminal diseases, they, you know, over the years have developed more
and more programs for, you know, supporting families, uh, whether that be, you know, just
financially and with resources or whether it be through counseling and, you know, education
so that they're able to support their loved ones as much as they can.
Um, it's definitely something that can get forgotten in these discussions is that, you
know, ALS and, and terminal diseases, you know, they very tragically affect those who are diagnosed
them, but they also had, you know, kind of ripple effects on the people around them.
Absolutely.
Um, yeah.
Anybody else have, and, uh, have anything they want to add?
For, for me, um, I think just being like, I, I really watch sports and I remember, I think
the first case that I remember seeing was actually Steve Gleason, the player for the, uh, New
Orleans Saints who, like after they had Hurricane Katrina, like he made like the first great play
whenever they came back, they won the Superbowl the following year.
Um, and then I know that a few years later he had to retire after eight seasons of playing
to, um, he just retired.
I think it was for other reasons, but then he later was diagnosed with ALS and it was
just crazy.
Like, first of all, you know, like you said, it's just a disease where your mind is sharp,
but your body starts failing you.
And it was just crazy.
Like the, like the positive attitude that, that he's demonstrated and everything that
you do to try to make it like as, as comfortable as possible for yourself and for your family.
So it's just, um, really inspiring to see these people that have to deal with it.
Um, I, I'm a school teacher and my first year of teaching, um, we had a, a dad who actually
passed away, who had had ALS for a long time.
And so we, as a community, I live in a small town in Texas.
Um, we just, you know, came around and really supported that family because it was tough to
see.
And so, um, you know, those are my experiences with it and it's not pretty, but, um, definitely,
you know, hoping that through this, um, these type of things, these foundations and these,
and these giving opportunities, we can come together and at least make it comfortable for
the families.
And then maybe in some future, you know, actually help provide a cure.
A hundred percent.
Uh, I agree with you a hundred percent.
Um, you know, that's really the family is, um, not just the kids, but especially, you
know, the, the, you know, you see like a lot of athletes now are really starting to, unfortunately
get the disease.
Um, you know, it might have something to do with, uh, brain injury, um, or things of that
nature.
But, um, uh, sorry.
Yeah, no, uh, just to clarify anything, so Kurt Schilling does not have ALS, uh, thank God.
You know, he, he, uh, does not, he's just a very, uh, avid supporter of the organization,
uh, and he wants to do, you know, quite a bit.
We had somebody comment or ask if Kurt has ALS.
Um, no, he does not.
Thank God.
Um, he, he is a cancer survivor, uh, and, uh, I believe his wife also has cancer at the
moment, uh, and his, and I'm not sure the status of that right now, but I know she's
doing well, thankfully.
Um, but he, he's just a very avid supporter of, uh, you know, the ALS association.
He's been donating and doing fundraisers for over 30 years for them since he was, uh, back
on the Phillies in the late eighties.
Um, and that's just something that, you know, it's a cause that he's really been a, uh, champion
for, and he's done a lot to, um, help them raising, you know, like I said, nearly, nearly
$20 million over the course of his career, uh, for the ALS association, um, specifically
the Philadelphia chapter.
Uh, so I've gotten a chance to know the people there and they're, you know, they're really
incredible people and they do so much to, to help the families of ALS patients.
Um, so I think, uh, Kurt will get into that a little bit more when we bring him on and
he should be joining us in just a couple of minutes.
I just confirmed that with him.
So, um, let's kick the can around and, um, you know, chat it up until he gets here, which
should be in a moment.
Um, but if anybody has anything else that they want to add or, um, you know, talk about
your projects, uh, Cosmos Joe, I know you had a, um, a really interesting little, uh, show
that you started yesterday and it highlighted the Omniflix token launch, uh, and stream swap
launch.
So we can talk about that briefly.
Um, what are your, what are your thoughts on the show?
How did that go?
Um, I think that my, my chat with Sisla, my recorded chat with Sisla was long overdue.
He's one of the first people that welcomed me into the space and helped me navigate the
NFT, you know, space and Cosmos.
So, um, I know people were waiting for a long time for that launch, but it sounds like they
really did it thoughtfully.
They have to be very aware.
And you know, this of American regulations, even though they're not necessarily an American
based company because of partnerships and whatnot.
The connection to hopefully big connections to, you know, Hollywood, the entertainment
industry.
So I thought it was awesome, man.
Sisla, you know how he is.
He's, he will help anybody.
He'll give anyone the shirt off of his back.
He's awake like 23 hours a day.
And, uh, yeah, I thought, I thought it went really good, man.
I, I feel like we could have done three or four recordings.
So it was, it was, I'll do another one when, you know, the platform has the token and do
some, some more videos on that.
Yeah, no, for sure.
Sisla is, uh, I feel very blessed to be, you know, uh, a part of the OmniFlex team.
He's a great, great, great, um, incredibly brilliant person.
And I've learned so much from him already, you know, in the 14 months or so that I've
been here.
Um, but it's definitely, I feel blessed to be able to be here with you guys and, um,
and to be with this team.
So, uh, the show, by the way, it was awesome.
You look like a natural up there, man.
So keep up the great work that you do.
Oh, I appreciate it, man.
I appreciate it.
It's easy to talk to that guy.
You know how it is.
He's, uh, I told him at the end of the video, I don't remember if I kept it in the video
or not.
I told him if I ever go to Cosmoverse, he's going to get a big hug, whether he likes it
or not.
I'm sure he'll appreciate that.
You know, we, we, um, we had the welcome, the welcome committee from, from Eli from
tardy grades last, uh, I guess last, last year.
So maybe you can set up the welcome wagon at, uh, Istanbul this year.
Oh man.
If I, if I get out there, that'll be something.
Put it that way.
Um, Hey, you mind if I just chime in about something related to Kurt Schilling for people
that are not baseball fans or just were like too young to remember him.
Of course.
Of course.
Yeah.
I mean, for people that are listening, you're not a baseball fan.
You never heard of Kurt Schilling.
He was, he was one of the players who played every game.
Like it was his last game.
He never wanted to come out of the game.
He did not play on good teams for a lot of his career.
His, his final career statistics are probably comparable to Pedro Martinez, even though he didn't
get into the hall of fame, he was absolutely lights out in the post season.
And the guy was just a fierce competitor that just, we're lucky that we have someone like
that.
That's going to be, you know, putting their name out there using NFTs, you know, make,
making NFTs more, I guess, community facing for, for, you know, promoting a good cause like
ALS.
And I think, again, if you don't like baseball, you don't, you don't care about what teams
he played on.
Just do a little research on this guy.
He is, he is a lot more, I would say competitive than the regulators and the politicians who
are going to come after this space with regulations.
And it's so great to have someone like that.
I agree with you a hundred percent, man.
I'll, I'll give you a quick little story on how we came to be working with Kurt.
Um, so back in August, I think it was, I, you know, I was just looking for, uh, you know,
for people that were, were our athletes to, um, to collaborate with and to, you know, to
work with them, to raise money for, uh, charity.
And because that's one of the things that I, you know, I saw when I started here, like
that was one of the ideas that I had as ways that we can, uh, really make a difference and,
you know, to participate in things that are good for the public good and for, you know,
for humanity.
And I saw NFTs as a way to do that.
Um, so I reached out to him on Twitter and I said, you know, Hey, Kurt, um, I gotta be
honest with you.
I hated your guts, uh, for the majority of my childhood and, you know, the, uh, your,
you know, your willingness to put yourself out there and, um, you know, and share your
opinions and, and have the, you know, your, your, your free voice is something that I
respect and I, um, you know, agree or disagree with everything that you say, I, uh, I respect
you.
And that's something that I look at and, you know, when I was younger, I thought sports
were everything.
And, you know, I see now that freedom and liberty and, um, you know, your ability to share
your opinions, which, you know, depending on where you live are, you know, pretty much
under attack in a lot of ways.
Um, and I see that that's, you know, something that's something that you can't like overlook.
And, you know, he appreciated what I said and we, um, we talked and he said, yeah, you
know, I've been looking to do something surrounding the, uh, bloody sock from, uh, Oh four.
And I wanted to do an NFT with that to support the ALS association.
And, you know, from then on, we, um, you know, we started talking and we came to him
with a design and he liked the direction we were going.
And, uh, I'll let him talk about that if he wants to, because we've been keeping the
design a little bit quiet, so to speak, but the NFT that he's going to be releasing on
June 2nd, man, uh, Joe is a baseball fan.
I know you're going to love it.
Cosmos, uh, Haas, I know you're going to love it.
Um, Eric, you'll, I'm sure you'll love it as well.
Like anybody that's a baseball fan will absolutely, um, be floored by this.
It's the coolest like concept.
Um, and it kind of blend blends in like the old with the new, so to speak.
So I'll let him delve a little bit deeper to that when he hops on here, but he should
be joining us any minute.
Ken, are you a Yangs fan?
I am.
Yeah.
I could see why.
Cause they, he shoved it on game six.
So I mean, what a way, like, cause so for people out there, just imagine your favorite
team, whether like any sport and the other opposing team just always beat you all the
time.
Like no matter what, for years upon years, probably your whole entire life, the Yankees
basically just absolutely owned the Red Sox forever.
And in fact, they were in the ALCS to go to the world series.
The Yankees were up three games.
Actually game three, they won by a complete blowout by like 11 runs or whatever.
So like, I went to school up there.
I was my freshman year in Connecticut.
So like everyone that was a Red Sox fan was just like, you know, like just really depressed
and like, Oh, it's just another year where the Yankees own us.
And like the thing up there was like, who's your daddy?
Cause like, that's what they considered the Yankees at the time.
But, and then the Red Sox won two games in a row and extra innings, like 12 and 14
innings.
Like it was like a really good comeback.
And actually game, game four, I think it was like Derek Roberts or someone that came
in just to pinch ran.
He, he, he stole second.
If he was out, the series was over anyways, they ended up coming back.
I think that's Dave Roberts.
That's right.
It was never done before.
Like no one's ever been down three Oh, cause you have to win four straight and the Red
Sox did it.
And then they went on and swept the world series.
And it was cool because it was like the first time in like over a hundred years, the Red
Sox won the world series and the, the atmosphere was just really good up in Connecticut and
just in New England in general.
So it was pretty cool.
And I got to go to game seven, which was something that I'll never forget.
So it was pretty cool.
Gee, are you serious, man?
That's awesome.
I didn't even have, so here's, here's my story.
I didn't even have tickets and I was a freshman.
I played college ball and one of my teammates was like, man, he was a Yankees fan.
And I was like, I wasn't really either fan, but at the time I kind of just liked the Red
Sox because I was up there and it was just like, whatever.
And I'm a Pirates fan and the Pirates always suck.
So I'm like, whatever, I'll, I'll go with the, with the Red Sox.
And, um, anyways, I was like, let's just go, man.
Like we'll, we'll get in.
I'll find us a way in.
And it was like the second inning or third inning.
It was whatever inning that Johnny Damon hit the home run and made it like kind of a little
bit of a blowout.
So we're walking around and there was this guy in a suit behind home plate and I could
tell he was like a guard or whatever.
I went up to him.
I was like, Hey man, I'm from Pittsburgh.
I played ball my whole life.
Like, well, I've never even been to Yankee stadium before.
I was like, what would it take for me and my buddy to get in here?
And he was like a hundred bucks each.
We gave him a hundred.
He's like, just find seats.
And then like, at the time we went up to like left foot field up, like kind of upper deck.
And then the Red Sox were up like six or seven runs or whatever.
And a lot of Yankee fans started leaving.
So we went right behind the, um, on deck circle for the Yankee or the Red Sox.
And I ended up getting like champagne sprayed on me and shit.
It was so much fun, man.
It was like the cool, I'll never forget it, man.
It was just like, you know, just one of those memories that, you know, made me love baseball
even more and things like that.
So it was pretty, it was pretty cool.
Yeah.
Thank you for sharing that, man.
Uh, it's like games, like games, like, uh, game six, you know, as a Yankee fan, like 2001,
when Luis Gonzalez hit the, uh, like seeing eye fricking game winning hit up the middle
off of, uh, Mariano Rivera like that.
Uh, I think I cried a little bit, uh, cause I was like 13 when that happened or 14 when
that happened.
And that was a rough one, but you know, being up three, nothing against the Red Sox and
that, that series, um, I went to high school with Andrew Giuliani, Mayor Giuliani's kid,
uh, mayor of New York during, um, right after 9-11 and, uh, I'd been to game two or three
in that series and I got to meet, you know, a few of the Red Sox.
I don't think I got to meet you, Kurt, but welcome to the stage, Kurt.
Hey, what's up?
Hey, what's going on, man?
Thank you for joining us.
Um, and that wasn't a seeing eye single.
It was blue.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
That one hurt, man, but you know, you guys, you guys wiped us out, uh, you know, after
being up 3-0.
We should have won that, we should have won that series in four games.
Hey, Kurt, hey, Kurt, I played college ball and actually one of the reasons I went to
school with Connecticut is because, um, like I went up to a Red Sox and Yankees game and
like the atmosphere was so real.
I'm from Pittsburgh.
So you guys remind, like the atmosphere up there just reminds me of like how people love
football in Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
Everyone loved baseball up there.
Yep.
So good times.
Yeah, it was, uh, it was definitely a, uh, a very, uh, an environment I'm glad I got
to experience because it was unlike anything else.
Yeah.
It was so cool because my freshman year is when you guys came back from 3-0 and I don't
know if you heard me.
Where'd you go?
Where'd you go to school?
I went to central Connecticut.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, uh, yeah, I went up there and I didn't have tickets and I was like, screw it.
Like I want to go to game seven because it's never been done before.
So me and my buddy, one of my teammates, we drove down and it was like after Damon hit
the home run, we're walking around and I seen this guy in a suit and I was like, man, I was
like, I told him my story.
I was like, I'm from Pittsburgh.
I played college ball.
I've never been to Yankee stadium.
This would be a dream come true.
Like how much would it take me to get in there?
And he was like a hundred bucks each.
And then we just like found seats.
And then actually like when you guys started putting them on a little bit, a lot of Yankee
fans left and I kind of sat like three rows behind the on deck circle and it was Manor
Ramirez and Mike Myers.
And I want to say like pokey Reese or someone sprayed champagne all over us.
And I was like right in the middle of it.
It was so cool.
Couldn't have been a better place to have that happen than Yankee stadium.
Exactly.
I read recently that you actually, that Cashman was trying to get you on the Yankees and you
were, you were like, uh, I think it was, was it your wife convinced you or you convinced
my wife, my wife wanted to go to New York.
Right, right, right.
And I, uh, at the time I was kind of indifferent.
I didn't want to go to Boston, but once I heard that Tito was interviewing with the Red
Sox, I put, I allowed the Diamondbacks to talk to the Red Sox and the Red Sox had already
made that already made the trade preliminary.
And they did basically, they made the deal with, with Joe Gary's old junior.
He said, listen, here's the deal we'll give you.
If we are, if we come into consideration, consider this our offer.
So when they found out that I'd be interested in Boston, they literally told me Boston will
be here tomorrow.
Um, but I got a call from Cashman during the, uh, negotiations, which obviously breaks every
rule in the book.
Um, but basically telling me that if I didn't sign to make once the 72 hour windows up, he'd
be there the next morning with a blank check.
So I had that going for me.
What made you pick Boston?
Uh, the challenge, I, you know, it came down to the fact that I could go to New York and
be a part of winning the 26th and 27th and 28th world series ever, or I could go to Boston
and do something that had never been done in anyone alive's lifetime.
And that just was more appealing to me.
Yeah.
It was a good decision.
Cause at the time, like the Yankees completely owned the Red Sox for so many, like my whole
life.
I'm 37.
I mean, it was like my whole life until you guys did what you did.
Now it's like the roles are reversed now.
It, it, it happened exactly the way it was supposed to happen.
You know, because without, you know, if things don't happen the way they happen, there is
no Oh four because you know, 75 and 86 and all those things in Oh three, that's what made
Oh four so special.
It wasn't Oh four being spent.
It would have been great in and of itself, but with all that background, it made it unbelievable.
So was that your, cause I know you were getting, you were getting up there in age when that
happened.
Was that your favorite team that you've been a part of?
No, no, no, no.
I had a, I was, I had a couple.
They all went diamond backs were a blast.
93 Phillies were a blast all for different reasons, you know, but yeah, it was a great team.
to be a part of, but they were all very memorable in their own ways.
Was your first ring the back?
Cause remember you're not talking about one.
Well, you're not talking about one.
You're talking about nine months every day.
Right.
And, and the amount of things that happen in that nine month window, uh, when you're living,
literally living with 25 guys, uh, is, is, can be incredibly, uh, bad or good.
And when you're winning, it's good.
Usually when you're losing, it's bad.
Yeah.
My, my roommate, my college roommate, he was a journeyman.
He pitched, I think he pitched like 12 or 13 years in the league.
He was like on like five or six different teams.
And yeah, was it Evan Scribner.
He, he's a little bit younger, but he played up until the year that the, um, he played with
the A's the year that they came back.
They had to win like 19 out of 21.
And he actually went, he went nine up nine down against, uh, the Rangers to, for them
to clinch the division or whatever.
But yeah, he had a good run at it.
And, um, yeah, I didn't, I didn't pitch.
I was an outfielder.
So it was a little, the odds are a little bit stacked.
It's a little bit harder, but I'm not making excuses.
He had a good run.
I had a good run.
Ball, ball is so much fun.
Yep.
Do you miss it?
No, not, never missed it for a second.
I bet.
No, I don't, I can't even like the league is, it's just so different anymore.
Something I don't even know.
But for me, it was all about, um, I mean, I got to experience, you know, everything at
no hitters, perfect games, world series wins, world series losses.
I was part of like three of the most memorable post seasons in history with 93 and Joe Carter
01 and the diamond backs and nine 11, then 04 with the comeback.
I mean, I, I, and, and, you know, I, I, it's very much why I totally understood Tom
Brady and, and, uh, uh, a couple of guys in hockey that are walking away.
It's not the game.
You don't miss the game because if you think about David Ortiz had one of the greatest
seasons ever in his last year and people like, how can you not come back?
It's the off season because when you play, there is really no off season.
You, if you're, if you're any good, it's literally a week or two off and then you're
right back at it and there is no off season.
And when you lose the desire to put that work time in, you, you, you have to have enough
pride to not, not try it again.
Yeah, totally.
At least you were a pitcher though.
You guys had a little bit more of a, I guess, I don't want to say, I'm not cutting up on
pitchers, but like you didn't have to do everything that a positional player positional.
Well, it, it, you have no life same, right.
It's the same work window though.
I mean, I worked from two weeks to the end of the season until the beginning of spring
training and they might get a little more time off.
In fact, they might take a lot more time off because when they get at it, it's every
day and they're playing every day.
And so they need their body to recover.
Um, you know, I need my arm to recover for the most part, unless I've had surgery or something.
So, you know, I don't start throwing and pick up a baseball until I think December 8th
was usually my day.
Um, depending on when spring training started, but it's every day.
It, it, it, there's a lot in, in the off season, you're probably doing 90% non-baseball
work and 10% baseball stuff.
90% of your work is, is in the, in the weight room or, or, you know, so.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't understand how anyone can stay healthy playing in New England.
But it, you know what, it's, it's, it's a challenge.
Um, but you know, it's from a baseball perspective, it's all about, you gotta be, you gotta show
up in spring training, ready to start the season.
You don't show up to spring training, uh, to get ready for the season anymore.
Yeah, for sure.
I couldn't stay healthy.
That was my problem.
Yeah.
Well, some of your bodies just aren't made that way.
Real quick, guys, I just want to circle back to, um, and we'll come back to baseball.
And a, in a few, uh, but just Kurt, so I just want to talk to you a little bit about
why, uh, you know, why we're here.
The, um, you know, your work with the ALS association has been, uh, you know, inspirational
to me and I'm sure to, uh, you know, everybody else that knows your work with them, you know,
raising nearly $20 million to support the ALS association over the course of your career.
And you've been working with them for over 30 years.
Um, you know, can you talk a little bit about the disease and like your work with them and
how you came to start, um, you know, what made you decide, you know, Hey, I want to, you
know, devote some of my time to this and, uh, and my money to this and, you know, to help
the people that are afflicted by this disease.
Like what started you with that?
Uh, I know you're a huge Lou Gehrig fan and, um, you know, what just kind of how you,
how, what, how'd you get here?
So in 1992, my first, uh, it was my first real year in the big leagues doing anything.
Uh, the Philadelphia Phillies, uh, have a organizational charity and that charity is ALS.
Uh, ALS is, is, uh, known as it's known as ALS, but it's, it's ALS stands for amyotrophic
lateral sclerosis and it's a fatal disease.
There is no known cure.
Um, and, and the way I describe it is basically if you think it, if you put your hand in front
of your face and you make a clenched fist, open and close your hand a bunch of times,
what's happening is your brain is sending motor neurons to the nerves and muscles in
your hand and forcing them to react.
When you get ALS, your brain sends the motor neurons to the hand, except the process, the
motor neurons don't actually go anywhere.
They're dead.
The brain sends the signal to the motor neurons, which no longer exists.
So you're in your mind, you're flexing your hand.
You may even feel like your hand's flexing, but it's not.
And so as it kills more and more motor neurons, you lose more and more body function.
Uh, ultimately your lungs are muscles.
So your body, uh, though it sends, you don't know this, you involuntarily send the muscles,
the signals to your lungs to breathe.
Your, your brain stops being able to activate and make that happen.
Uh, and you die, uh, unless you have a lot of money and you can afford a respirator, you
can, for the most part, be kept alive on a respirator for a period of time.
Um, it is still fatal.
But anyway, um, that what they asked new players to the organization to do is to meet a lady
named Ellen Phillips who lost her husband to ALS and Ellen would, because basically if
you're an athlete or a professional athlete, your off days are sacred days, sacred time
during the season.
And they asked the players to come in on an off day, uh, for a charity event, which is
the ALS, uh, charity, ALS fundraiser, it's an autographed party at auction.
Um, and Ellen explains why, and she introduces a patient with it.
And the gentleman that day that I met was named Dick Bergeron.
And it just so happened and coincided with the time when I was starting to get into golf.
And, uh, Dick had told us that that was the first place he ever noticed something odd was
on the golf course.
And he couldn't found, he wasn't able to grip his putter, right.
It got weird and it just kept going and going and going.
And finally, like most patients, he spent 12 to 18 months looking for a doctor, uh, uh,
to tell him what was wrong.
ALS is one of the most misdiagnosed, uh, I'm not sure what the percentage is now, but
it usually went for 12 to 18 months being misdiagnosed as anything but ALS because so few doctors
were aware of it and informed of it and understood it.
Um, that's different now, obviously.
Um, but he was diagnosed and told, and he was very well off.
He was affluent.
Uh, he was probably not the nicest guy in his, in his, in his pre ALS life.
Uh, well, he wasn't, he wasn't the nice guy.
He'd tell you that.
Um, and so I, I lived with, uh, uh, uh, a relationship with Dick, uh, between the day
I met him there and the day he passed.
And my wife and I decided we were at a time and a place where we could spend some time
away from the park and involved in this was our charity.
And we, we went as, as anybody that knows me, I went, you know, knee deep full.
We started, uh, uh, the strikeout for, for ALS, which I donated a hundred dollars for every
strikeout and a thousand dollars for every win from then until I retired, um, every year.
And we had a fan component to that and, and fans would donate and sign up and every year
we'd have a, uh, an auction, a party at the end of the year.
And I'd meet all the fans and they'd meet patients.
And it was just another way to create awareness because that was, that it was, and still is
one of the biggest, uh, hurdles.
Um, so we, and again, we're 33 years after the fact, we're still involved to some degree,
certainly not as much as I was when I played, but this token, this NFT, uh, I'm incredibly
proud of, incredibly honored, uh, to, I can't wait for people to see it.
Um, it's an homage to Lou Gehrig and, and I guess in some way, uh, I'm involved in it, uh,
and, and uncomfortable as it might be.
Um, our locker, it's, I don't know how much we've told them about it, Ken, but it's.
No, I wanted to let you, you know, share what you wanted to share.
Cause I didn't know how much I wanted to share.
No, it's a, it's a, it's a picture, uh, of, uh, of, uh, Mr. Gehrig's locker and mine,
uh, side by side.
And the background is, is amazing, uh, and very history, you know, history based.
And, you know, there was, Ken will tell you, I was very adamant about detail in this and
making sure that my locker wasn't at the same height as Lou Gehrig's locker, uh, to, to,
uh, you know, I, I, I just was, I, well, I wasn't comfortable with it.
This was a man who, uh, well, was, might've been the greatest first baseman to ever play
the game.
Uh, and clearly at the end of his career, he was playing baseball with ALS, which I just,
I can't comprehend that.
Um, but I got to know the man very, very clearly, uh, as someone who was a world changing
personality.
My first son is named Gehrig.
Um, and it's been, uh, uh, my kids grew up around ALS patients.
Uh, and by that, I mean, they would, they went, they would walk into rooms and they walk into
rooms.
Now wheelchairs don't bother them.
Ventilators don't bother them.
Colostomy bags don't bother them.
They understand, um, that when they get into a room like that, their job is to make other
people smile and make other people feel good about themselves.
And I think one of the best and most revealing and stunning things about people with ALS, every
one of them has been given a death sentence for committing no crime.
Yet, if you go into a room full of ALS patients, they will be the smilingest, happiest people
in the room.
And it's profound and it's kind of breathtaking until you realize that they're waking up every
morning with what you and I would think would be, oh my God, I'm going to die.
They don't think anything like that.
They think, oh my God, I'm here another day.
I get to live.
And they really push to, to live every day to its fullest.
And, and, and you have to understand ALS is a family disease.
It's a community's disease.
Uh, it financially destroys families for generations if they're not properly equipped insurance
wise.
Um, uh, it's one of the things, uh, that I think the United, the military has just started
to accept ALS, which is beyond, uh, repulsive to me.
Um, but you're, you see a lot of, not a lot.
And I use the term a lot, uh, just because it's more than normal, uh, veterans have it,
uh, football players.
I, I absolutely believe that head trauma is going to be a foundational piece to, to
this, uh, as, as a causation kind of a thing.
Uh, I think it's going to end up being, uh, head trauma is going to be, end up being a causation
to many of the neurological illnesses that we're going to diagnose.
And I think we're going to find a cure for most of them.
It's not all of them at the same time, because I think once we unlock one, I think we'll unlock
the rest.
But all that being said, uh, unfortunately it's about the dollar.
They need money.
And, you know, so I'm in a position, uh, and you're in a position now to help, uh, raise
and, and there's going to, here's the thing, there's going to be a last dollar, right?
There's going to be a dollar that does the final, that, that closes the final act, be
it research, be it, you know, a grant something.
I mean, there's going to be that dollar that ends up being the one that cures ALS.
And, uh, I, I wouldn't mind that being my dollar or a dollar that I've helped raise through
this, this program.
And, and I got to tell you, the guys at OniFlix, um, have been, I want to say legendary, uh,
especially Ken in their cooperation and collaboration with me.
Uh, they've been, uh, understanding if not everything else, um, of time and my time and,
um, as passive as you could possibly ask for from, from my perspective.
Uh, but also putting together what I think, uh, you know, the NFT space is one of those
places where a lot of us Gen Xers, uh, are looking at going, okay, I'll, I'll skip that.
Um, but I think that there's some legal and, and popular methods that you can trust.
And, you know, I got to tell you guys now, uh, I wouldn't have done this.
I, I, an NFT was the last thing in my mind.
I just didn't want to get into the space.
There's too much, um, getting to understand it and understanding how the OmniFlix, OmniFlix
network works within it is I'm trusting.
Now I, I, I, I, I'm not promising anything, I can't promise anything for another entity.
I can tell you this.
If I thought that there was a chance that this was a scam or this was a, a, uh, uh, you
know, uh, a Bernie Madoff thing, I wouldn't be here.
Uh, I wouldn't be here.
I would, I would, I would either not be doing it or I would, uh, have done it with someone
else.
Uh, I got, uh, I've been approached by an, an inordinate amount of companies asking me
to do this very thing.
I've said no to all of them because they didn't pass the smell test and the guys at OmniFlix,
uh, did.
And so, uh, I am proud to be a part of this.
I think what we're doing is potentially a trendsetter for the future for charitable causes.
Uh, and I would love to see this blow up and do something that became newsworthy, uh, not
just for OmniFlix and the OmniFlix network, but for ALS and, uh, and the business of fundraising
for charities through NFTs.
I really appreciate that, Kurt.
Uh, that means a lot, you know, coming from you.
Thank you so much for, uh, for that.
Um, you know, we, we, like I was telling, telling everybody, you know, when, uh, when
I first reached out to you, you know, I said, Hey, listen, man, I used to hate your
guts, but, uh, you know, I respect you.
And I, um, I was curious if you'd be interested in doing, uh, you know, an NFT for a charitable
cause or something that, you know, is dear to your heart and you responded pretty quickly
and said, you know, I've been thinking a little bit about doing something with the bloody sock
and seeing how, uh, I could help ALS.
And I guess the rest is, uh, or will be history.
Um, no, when we started doing this, I, I'll be honest, I really did not know a whole lot
about the disease.
I knew about the ice bucket challenge.
I knew, you know, it was designed to, uh, raise awareness for ALS.
Um, but I didn't really know until we started talking, you know, how devastating the disease
is for people and, you know, meeting, uh, Jimmy virtually, uh, when we did the interview
with Jimmy Poole, uh, which we'll be going, uh, that, that episode will be going live.
Uh, I believe this time, uh, a week from today we'll be going, we'll be going live, uh, on
OmniFlex TV and everybody will have a chance to check that out.
Um, you know, that was, that was really tough to watch in some ways.
Cause it just, you know, when you told me that people still have the full cognitive function
and are able to, you know, understand everything that's going on around them, that, you know,
the fact that he was able to do that with us, uh, meant a lot because I'm sure that had
to be hard for him.
Um, yeah, it was, uh, Jimmy Poole, uh, for those of you following, uh, the, the video
he's talking about, I got a chance to talk to Jim and Kim Poole and, um, Jimmy is at a
non-communicative stage of the disease.
And generally, uh, as you look at the disease, for those of you that don't know it or don't
understand it, one of the things you should understand is, uh, higher, lower is better.
And by that, I mean, uh, if you notice it in your feet first, uh, I, I'm using this
term relative.
That's a good thing.
Um, the higher it gets, the closer to the end you get.
And generally, uh, the last and latter stages of the disease involved the losing the ability
to communicate with your voice, um, because your, your throat and larynx are muscles and
you stop, you losing the, you using, you stop with the ability, uh, to talk.
Uh, that's why generally the higher up you get diagnosed with, with symptoms, the shorter
lifespan you have, uh, average lifespan is three years from diagnosis.
Most people have it for 12 months plus prior to a diagnosis.
Um, but, uh, Jimmy is non-communicative and if you watch the video, you'll understand what
a devastating disease that is number one and number two, uh, the spouse, uh, who is literally
picking up, uh, and putting down for two people every day, 24 hours a day, uh, it's overwhelming.
And, um, you know, one of the things that, that a lot of the, uh, you'll see a lot of the
local ALS clinics and they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll farm out for, and that's a part of another
reason why I'm involved with ALS because I know a, a significant portion of every dollar
donated goes directly to patient care and research.
And by patient care, they'll send hospice workers.
They'll send, uh, uh, workers to give mom a day off.
So somebody will come to your house and, and help you help your patient for the day while
mom takes a day off, which they need.
It's, it's incredibly, incredibly, uh, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
Uh, corrosive from a life perspective, you lose the ability to function your normal life.
It's best if you have kids, I can't even imagine.
Um, and so things like that.
Yeah.
Oh, if you, if you want, I have a little clip that I can play from the interview, uh, when,
you know, uh, when Kim is talking about how he came to realize that he had it.
Yep.
Sure.
Uh, so I'll just queue this up for you guys and, uh, you can take a listen to this.
Um, left hand and, um, and then, um, his shoulder was really bugging him.
Um, but kind of seemed like it was like a frozen shoulder.
So both of these things, both of these things were, you were like, you know, the Georgia
tech orthopedic guy looked at him and said, yeah, it was probably from, you know, pitching
and all that pitching, right?
So initially, um, we were going down that path of, uh, cubital tunnel syndrome.
Right.
And frozen shoulder.
And, um, we were training for a 5k for his 55th, 55th, 55th birthday.
And all of a sudden his left leg was acting weird.
It was fine on a treadmill, but if we were outside, it wouldn't quite, you know, it just
wasn't responding normally.
And that's when, um, I was like, okay, this is not, we are not doing any surgeries on your
arm or your wrist.
We're not doing anything.
Well, it, women's intuition, right?
I mean, you know, one of the things that I was in, this was 30 years ago.
One of the things that, that really kind of put me back on my heels was the fact that the
length of time between symptoms and diagnosis.
And back then it was, I don't know what it is now, but it was almost three years.
I mean, people were, were taking years to be diagnosed because no one, and I think a lot
of the medical field doing the diagnosing wasn't up to speed on ALS and the symptoms.
And, um, that has a dramatic impact, especially when you consider what the, the, the lifespan
expectancy is for someone diagnosed with ALS.
And, and the thing I think that I, um, that I found, uh, and I still find one of the
most amazing things is in 30 years dealing with ALS, I have never been around people more
positive, more, uh, mentally strong and, and, and speak to that, Jimmy, um, and Kim as well.
I've always looked at ALS patients as, uh, mind is very, uh, impactful on a daily basis to
how you're going to live with this disease.
Yeah.
Um, he said, absolutely.
Um, it's, yeah.
And I, the same with us, everyone we've met, they are, I mean, it's just amazing what they
do and their positive outlook.
Um, I think, you know, we do come across some that aren't, but they don't do well.
Right.
Oh, right.
No, that's exactly right.
That's exactly.
So, I mean, you can, you can hear, you know, him, uh, kind of struggling to communicate and
that's gotta be so hard, you know, that's to, you know, you're, you're used to going out
for 5k runs and all of a sudden now you're in a wheelchair in the six months.
Uh, that's, that's gotta be just devastating emotionally for somebody that, you know, was,
you know, 20 years ago pitching in major leagues.
Uh, yeah, I, I, it's one of those, I don't think any of us can, can grasp it.
Uh, you can think about it, but I don't think you can actually realize what it is, what it
means and what it looks like and what it feels like.
I just, it's, it's, and let's find a cure before any of us has to realize it.
Uh, that's, that was one of the other pieces of why we got involved.
I don't want to be sitting here 20 years from now after meeting this guy and have, be
diagnosed with ALS or have my kids diagnosed with ALS, uh, and not have done something.
And you can pick a million charities to say that about, but this was ours.
And, you know, it, God has, has put us in different lives.
We are, when we moved to Medfield to play for Boston, one of our best friends, one of my
second son, his best friend has, uh, spinal muscular atrophy.
He was born with a childhood form of ALS, uh, and he was given, they're not supposed to
live to be 20 years old.
He's 23 now, just graduated college.
Um, and the amount of time, effort and energy his family has spent because the whole family
revolves around this guy.
And, uh, he has a brother and a sister who are both, they're both, one of them is going
to be a doctor, uh, they're incredible, but the family has gone.
You know, when we, we talk about having tough days at work, these people have always been
able to make my tough days, uh, thought of in context, right?
A tough day is giving up nine runs and two and a third.
No, a tough day is getting up, having to put your husband in a wheelchair and take him to
the bathroom, get him into the crane lift to put him on the toilet, then wipe his butt and
then take him off the toilet, put him in the shower, hand wash him, get him.
That's a tough day.
And so, uh, I always felt that I wanted, uh, to be, I, they, they always gave us perspective.
You know, when my wife and I have battled cancer a couple of times and people are like,
you know, wow, doesn't having cancer give you perspective?
No, no, it doesn't.
I already had perspective.
I didn't take life for granted.
Now, listen, I, every, I made every decision living every day to its fullest.
No one has that I know of anyway, but these people have made my life richer than I could
have ever made theirs.
Uh, what they've given us and what they've given my family is far, far, far, far more
than what we've given them.
And I'll be forever grateful for that.
I just want to be in a time and a place before I leave this earth when Lou Gehrig's name
is associated with the greatest baseball player that ever played first base, as opposed to
a fatal neurological disease.
Yeah.
And just to put it into context, and I saw Joe, you had your hand up and I'll, I'll come
right to you in just a second.
But, uh, just to put it into context, you know, what a great player Lou Gehrig was.
Uh, he had five seasons with 40 or more home runs, and there's only six other players to
ever do that.
Uh, Babe Ruth, Harmon Killebrew, Mike Schmidt, Sammy Sosa, Alex Rodriguez, and Albert Pujols.
And, uh, you know, Lou Gehrig still, you know, he probably, I would imagine he's, he had
the disease in 1938, uh, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and he still hit, you know, 30 home runs that year.
And that was, uh, his second to last season in baseball.
And the last season, I think he got, you know, he was four for 28 and he, um, you know, he
wasn't able to play anymore.
And that's, I guess when it really started to take hold on him.
Um, but, uh, Joe, you have, you had a question?
Oh, yeah.
Thanks, Shev.
And, uh, thanks, uh, Kurt for, uh, for doing this.
Um, before you came on the space, I was just kind of letting people know who are not familiar
with baseball or, or, or you just kind of how lucky the, the NFT space is to have someone
with so much, you know, just like competition in their blood all the time.
And, you know, we could hear how determined you are and optimistic at the same time, because
obviously ALS is lucky to have you as an advocate.
But, you know, a lot of people, you know, don't have the, like the social status or the, you
know, the name that like an entertainer or athlete has, but do you have any suggestions
for people that maybe have, you know, part of smaller circles that can still.
Oh, absolutely.
Easy, easy.
Yeah, I would love to hear you talk about that a little bit.
There are, there are a lot of people in here that have that.
So there's a, that's a great question.
And there's an absolute easy answer to this, you know, while money is absolutely at the
heart of getting ALS cured, there are local chapters in just about every city in the country.
You can donate your time to a local chapter, be it taking groceries to an ALS family, running
errands for an ALS family, volunteering your time to take care of an ALS patient or learning
what day care looks like for an ALS patient, learning that, and then going out and taking
care of a patient for the day, spending time.
There are people in ALS that are probably, that are lonely and just sitting around bullshitting
with them, being a human being to them, giving them a semblance of what normal life used to
be like when they could get out and be around people.
Those things are probably way more valuable to them than money.
You don't have to give money, but giving your time, a concerted effort to give your time
is every bit as valuable, if not more so than anything I'll ever do.
I appreciate that, man.
You know, there are a lot of people in this space right now that have like, you know,
they have YouTube followings or they run Twitter spaces and they have small, you know, they
have small followings that can grow and can scale.
So I think that, I appreciate you answering that and giving some, you know, some insights
there.
Yeah.
And I got to tell you, this is the space that has the ability.
Can you imagine if some of the big guys like Ninja or Tim the Tap Man or a couple of the
other big, a couple of the other really, really big ones.
Can you imagine if they told their audience, you know, hey, today we're all going to send
a dollar to ALS or we're all going to send $5 to ALS.
Can you imagine what they could do for any charity and not just ALS, but any of them, their
ability and a lot of them do.
I mean, who is it?
What is his name?
The Beast?
Mr. Beast.
Mr. Beast.
He has a massive following.
I know there's some bullshit, what is it, controversy going around.
But, you know, the fact of the matter, a guy goes around and gives away loads of money.
Can you imagine if he did that?
Like, and there's the gentleman that my father-in-law watches who plays slots in Vegas, and he has
a huge following.
Can you imagine if he did a day where he donated all his winnings to ALS and asked his audience
to match at 10% or something like that?
There are so many ways these people could help and raise money for other sites, and a lot
of them do.
But it would be great to see this potential maximized.
For sure.
And then maybe, you know, maybe Omflix as a platform can kind of integrate something
for the YouTubers who are going to use the platform.
Like me, I see Tank down there.
I know there are others as well.
So, yeah, I appreciate that, man.
That's definitely helpful.
Sometimes you just think, like, you know, what do I have to do?
I have to just do this 5K, but there's got to be other stuff.
Like you said, the time is just as valuable.
So, no, thanks, man.
And, you know, I was a huge Met fan when you were on the Phillies, and you, like, murdered
us all the time.
I got to tell you, that's one of the worst losses of my career, ever.
I know what you're going to say, the walk-off in the ninth, when you refused to come out
of the game.
That's the only time I remember you losing to the Mets.
But it was like, Alfonso might have got yours.
I can't remember who it was.
I took a 4-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth, and I was the first pitcher in baseball
history since World War II to blow it all by myself.
I remember you refused to come out of the game.
I'm like, oh, this guy wants to finish the game.
I love it.
But I'm a Mets fan, like, can we do something?
Yeah, I think it was like a walk-off single.
Either Alfonso hit it or Alfonso hit it.
John O'Root.
John O'Root.
All right.
Well, he hits a lot of people, so I guess you can't feel that.
Single to left.
And it was funny because in the middle of that inning, Tito came out, and he had Eric
Plantenberg was warming up.
Great guy.
Good teammate.
He looks at me, and I'm – pardon my French.
He looks at me, and I said, there's no fucking way you're bringing Eric Plantenberg into this
fucking game.
And he was like – he was like – I remember.
He said, there's no way I'm going to bring Eric fucking Plantenberg.
I just came out there to give you a breather.
He walks back to the dugout, and O'Root's coming up, and Lieberthal comes out, and he
goes, what's up?
I go, listen, I don't know that I've ever gotten this guy out.
I don't have a pitch for him, so I'm just going to throw him a fastball away.
I hope he lines – hits a line drive to left, and Ronnie catches it and doubles off a runner.
I throw a fastball away.
He hits a line drive.
One hopper to left.
Gantt picks it up.
Doesn't throw the guy out at home.
We lose.
And I sat on the bench for like two hours after that game.
I remember watching that.
I think it was a day game.
It was like – I remember for some reason at home.
I remember watching that, and I remember it was kind of a close play at the plate, but –
No, it wasn't really close enough.
No, it was – he was – and it was just – I remember because I had a 4-0 league,
Piazza single, and then Ventura hit a two-run homer.
And I was like, oh, damn, I lost my shutout.
And then about 15 minutes later, after hitting two guys with two strikes, the game ended.
I was devastated.
Well, no, it's funny you remember it.
Not much detail, but I definitely remember watching it.
Oh, I remember that whole inning.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, so I'm a tax accountant, so I'm a numbers guy.
A lot of people don't realize this.
Like, maybe even you, Joe, but, like, the total amount of MLB players, like, has ever made it to the big leagues.
You can put them all in any stadium, and it won't fill it up, which is a crazy thing to think of.
So, next time you go to the stadium, think of all the players that's ever played baseball at the major league level,
and you still can't fill up just like – even PNC Park, it only holds, like, 36,000.
You can't even fill that park up.
So, that's pretty cool.
I definitely did not know that, but I know Kurt Schilling belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Not that much, I know.
Postseason numbers alone, like, just – I think you got a wrong deal.
So, I'm looking right now, I didn't even notice, he's one of 18 pitchers that ever beat every major league baseball team.
That's pretty cool.
I mean, he's cool.
That just meant I was old.
Hey, man, it doesn't matter.
Like, you were doing your thing at an old age, you know what I mean?
So, I was going to ask you, how is your arm going now?
Pretty close to Pedro Martinez, I think, in the postseason puts him in, in my opinion.
Yeah.
I don't use it anymore.
Yeah, but is it – like, I swear, like, I'm only 37, and if I don't keep using my arm, even if I just toss a little bit, my arm just gets so stiff and sore.
Yeah, I don't use it anymore, so it doesn't matter how it is.
The same thing with my ankle.
That's funny.
Yeah, the ankle's like – does that still, you know, give you trouble or no?
Oh, yeah, but I do very little – I mean, I have a farm in Animal Rescue, and I'm working on the farm a lot,
but I don't – I don't have to pitch or run, so I don't, you know?
Yeah, yeah, check out the videos, guys.
Check out the videos of Kurt with the Ferrets, man.
It's like –
Yeah.
It's great.
Hey, Joe, I was thinking, similar to the question you said about how we can help out, you know,
I think just, like, maybe, like, committing to, like, a day of staking rewards or something to donating.
Like, it just does every day.
People not even – you know, not all of us have a YouTube channel and following.
Yo, that's crazy.
That's crazy, because Cicela literally messaged me and said the same exact thing.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, just –
All right, I'm going to drop the alpha.
He's right, though.
Like, this space offers a lot more options than the traditional world for just doing microtransactions,
being able to kind of automate some regular payments and whatnot.
So, that's why, in the beginning, I said we're lucky that someone with this status is obviously not only helping raise money for a cause,
but kind of helping shine a light on the potential of the Web3 space,
which is probably going to be kind of under attack from regulators and governments for at least a little while.
I said the other place I'd really like to go with this in the future is to raise money for military families
that have lost loved ones in the line of duty, police and firemen, you know,
first responders and families of military guys that have been disabled in combat
who come back through and work through the – like, the Fisher House is another charity we're heavily involved with,
which is an amazing charity, and wounded warriors and stuff like that.
I would really like to see an angle – you know, on any given night,
there's 32,000 homeless veterans in this country, which is a disgrace.
And that needs to be fixed.
And this is potentially another platform we could definitely do.
Can you imagine the NFTs you could make with military images?
I mean, that would be just badass.
I see Zoe has a question.
And just real quick, though, Kurt, funny that you say that,
because I – and maybe I'm – you know, maybe this will incentivize –
they're not incentivized, but it'll drive them to get involved more quickly.
I spoke to David Wells' wife a couple of weeks ago,
and I still need to follow up with them because I was away at NFT NYC last week,
so I haven't had a chance to.
But this week I'm going to reach out to them again because she was very receptive
to what I mentioned because they have a foundation for – that helps veterans as well.
I know you played with David for one year when he was in Boston,
but do you have any, like, contact with him still?
Not much, but I do.
I mean, that certainly won't be challenging.
Yeah, no, I was – yeah, I think we can talk about that
because I think, like, reading about his foundation,
it's in line with a lot of what you had said that you wanted to do for veterans.
Yep.
Zoe, you have a question?
Yeah, I mean, I was just going to chime in because, you know,
the topic of supporting veterans with NFTs came up.
It's been a moment since I've talked, but I work with The Giving Block.
For those who weren't here for the intro,
we help facilitate crypto donations for around 2,000 nonprofits,
including the ALS Association, excuse me,
and we work very closely with, you know, NFT projects in the space.
But I wanted to bring up that I actually have found that
there are quite a few military and veteran-focused nonprofits
that have been very excited about NFTs.
None of them have already raised funds through NFTs,
and some of them are just started.
Canines for Warriors has been super excited about this space.
Veterans Outreach Center, as well as Disabled American Veterans, DAV,
they're working on doing a fundraiser as well.
So just wanted to bring up that there's definitely a lot of potential there.
We've already seen, you know, some start,
and I think there's a lot more work that can be done
and a lot more support that can come from the NFT communities.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Hey, you know, there's something else.
I don't know if, obviously, you know,
Kurt's just kind of getting into the space on a deep level,
but, you know, we have lots of conferences year-round.
I was wondering if he was ever interested in, you know,
setting up something at an NFT conference
or, you know, visiting a couple conferences
or just sending people that work alongside
just to kind of spread the word that way
because sometimes we get wrapped up in the space.
As Ken will tell you, I mean, I'm always interested in helping.
It's just a scheduling thing.
You know, I need a significant amount of advance notice,
and I'm not going to bullshit you.
If I can't do it, I can't do it.
Of course.
We're trying to set something up, actually, in Nashville.
I don't know where you live,
but maybe end of the summer NFT conference.
It'd be great to have, like, a charitable cause there as well.
Just, you know, maybe Shev will be able to, you know,
give you some details as we get them organized
and send them your way.
You never know.
It might work out.
Yeah, 100%.
If he's on board, that would be amazing.
How was your golf game?
Stale.
It's stale.
Well, I – my ankle injury in 04 was the last time prior to that
when I played significant.
I played all the time.
I actually owned a driving range when I was in Philadelphia right by my house,
and I started learning the game then,
and I got down to about a two handicap and, you know,
played religiously all the time.
And after 04, I just didn't have it in me.
I didn't have the time.
It took me too long to get back on my feet,
and I just stopped.
I played sporadically since then, some charity tournaments,
but nothing – because I can't play casually.
If I'm going to play, I need to play knowing I'm going to, you know,
I'm going to go out and challenge par, and I can't do that.
And it's not fun for me otherwise.
I think I mentioned to you,
one of our community members actually owns your old driving range now.
Yes, you did.
And that person, I've actually – that person has reached out to me,
which is very cool.
That's a small world, man.
Oh, yeah.
So I'm going to open it up to everybody else that wants to hop up
and has a question for Kurt.
You know, we've got about 20 minutes or so left.
And Kurt, thank you again so much for your time,
for being here tonight with us.
It really means a lot that you're, you know,
dedicating some of your time to chat with our community
and to raise awareness about your project
and all the work that you do for ALS.
We really appreciate you.
Yeah.
Yeah, thank you.
Real quick, let me see what we got.
And Eric, you've been quiet.
You got any questions for Kurt?
No, I'm just –
a lot of people, you know,
talk about the 2004 World Series.
But to me, my favorite one was when you and Randy Johnson, you know,
did the comeback against the Yankees.
Sorry, Kent.
Yeah.
But seeing you beat those Yankees, right?
Like, because they were still, like, in the prime, you know,
they had just won all those championships.
Remember, they were –
yeah, they were trying to go for a consecutive.
They were –
Yeah.
They were looking for their fourth in a row.
Yeah, they were.
So it was so great.
Like, man, that was such a happy moment for me.
I didn't think they had a shot, but it was all.
Dude, and we should have won that game –
we should have won that series 4-0.
We dominated them so ridiculously bad.
Yeah, you and Randy Johnson were just, like,
pitching out of your minds.
It was insane.
I'm not going to lie.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
We were a little sexy then.
We got after it pretty good.
And that was a hell of a team.
But, you know, testament –
but when you go back and think about that World Series,
in a sense, it happened –
for the country, it happened exactly the way it should have happened.
Because everybody hates the Yankees except Yankee fans.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
The whole country, though, was rooting for New York
because of, what, 9-11.
So we win the first two in Arizona and kick the crap out of them.
And then we go to New York,
and they have three of the most amazing games in the history.
That city just erupts, and there's, like, so much joy and happiness.
You know, and after being at ground zero and seeing what it was like,
that was everything that should have happened there.
And then we come back and win.
Yeah.
So the Yankees lost, which everybody loved,
and they won all the games in New York, which everybody loved.
Yeah, they got to have their moments in New York, for sure.
Do you ever talk to Randy Johnson, give him a hard time for joining the Yankees?
We haven't talked in a long time.
He's just not – Randy's a private guy.
Was as a player and is in real life.
And, you know, once he and his wife – my wife and his ex-wife are still very close.
But, no, he's doing his professional photography thing, and I'm not.
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, I saw he's doing that.
That's pretty cool.
He's really good, too.
You should get him involved in NFTs.
Yeah.
He's actually going to have his own exhibit at the Hall of Fame ceremony this year.
Oh, wow.
Did you think he would be successful in New York?
You know, some people are just like they have a hard time pitching in New York.
Did I think he would be successful?
Yeah.
Well, he's Randy Johnson, number one.
But that is – to me, that was the worst possible market a guy like that could go to
because of his distaste and dislike in the media
and knowing what the media in New York was.
Well, I didn't think he was going to do good because he's like Samson.
They made him cut his lock, you know, and shave his face.
Yeah.
Well, I knew it wasn't going to go well when the first video out of there
was him walking down the street pushing a reporter aside saying,
do you know who I am?
That's when I realized it probably wasn't going to work out.
Yeah.
He's like 6'10".
He's a big-ass dude.
Yeah.
I couldn't believe that he had a 5 ERA, you know, in the –
he still won like almost 20 games.
But I couldn't believe that going from –
I figure – granted, he wasn't throwing 100 miles an hour anymore, but still.
Well, you've got to remember, too, he was 40-something.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not like he was a young pup.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah, and Yankee Stadium's a joke.
It's definitely not for pitchers.
It's for hitters, for sure.
Well, you've got to pitch to that park.
That park is made for left-handed hitters, which he rarely faced.
So, yeah.
But, again, Randy Johnson, he might be probably one of the five greatest pitchers
of all time.
So, there's that.
Kurt, if you could play with a single, you know, active baseball player right now.
Mike Trout.
Oh, yeah.
I guess that's an easy answer, right?
Yeah.
Mike Trout.
Otani would be an interesting one, too.
But, Mike Trout.
I think Mike Trout's the greatest offensive player anybody alive will ever see.
I can't believe you didn't say Otani because he's a pitcher, too, and he can rake.
Yeah, but Mike Trout's –
Mike Trout is only the fourth player ever to hit 300 homers, 300 doubles, and steal 300 bases.
The other three are Willie Mays, A-Rod, and Barry Bonds.
Yeah, that's a pretty good list.
That's studs right there.
That's what that is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, Otani, that's just so cool.
Like, because, you know, pitchers – I mean, pitchers barely can hit.
I'm sure you probably barely got a few hits in your career.
I don't know how many hits you got, but, like, pitchers go up.
I had, like, 160.
I had, like, 160.
So, ease up.
There you go.
You didn't have any dingers, though, right?
Did you have any dingers?
No, no.
I missed – sadly, I missed mine by, like, a foot.
And it was only because of the ballpark I hit in, so.
Oh, shit.
But I don't think people – I don't think people truly understand what they're seeing with him.
We're not talking about a guy who plays both positions.
We're talking about a guy who is the ace of the staff and might be the best hitter on the team.
Like, okay, that's – Babe Ruth never did that.
Babe Ruth pitched, and then he hit, right?
He had very little overlap of the two.
Dude, this guy's doing it every day.
It's insane.
There's – nobody alive has ever seen them.
I guess the closest would be, like, Rick Ankeel before he, like, you know, started walking everybody.
But, again, same thing.
Rick Ankeel did that as a – he was a pitcher, then he quit, and then he was a hitter.
Yeah.
Rick Ankeel, who do you think – sorry, I want to ask you who – if he thinks anyone else from his era has been –
he'd like to see in the Hall of Fame that's been snubbed or overlooked.
I thought Todd Helton should be a first ballot guy.
I'll tell you who I thought got screwed in a big way, and I thought he was – he might not be a Hall of Famer,
but he should have gotten a lot of consideration.
Who was it?
Kenny Lofton.
Oh, he was awesome, man.
He was awesome.
He did not deserve to be off the ballot.
He was in the playoffs, like, every year, I think, his whole career.
But he – look, his – I'll tell you – I'll tell you probably the guy that's going to go
and end up being the most underrated guy from my era, maybe won't get in the Hall of Fame,
will be Bobby Abreu.
Yeah, quietly, consistent, always hitting –
Go look at Bobby Abreu's stats compared to Tony Gwynn's.
Oh, don't do that to me.
I love Tony Gwynn.
Oh, boy.
It will stun you.
It will stun you when you look at some of the comparisons.
Obviously, Tony was the first ballot hitter, but they're not that different in many ways.
And I played with Bobby, so I got to see that.
And so I would tell you that the separation between the two is not as big as you might think it is.
And if you're talking about one of the greatest hitters that ever lived and the other guy being somewhat comparable to him,
then there's a problem if that second guy is not considered Hall of Fame talent.
Yeah, for sure.
You're right.
Hey, Chef, I'm sorry, I'm going to harp on this one more time, but, you know, we're setting up that NFT conference in Nashville.
What if we could somehow do the tickets as NFTs through Omniflix, do a percentage to ALS,
and then if it so happens that it works with Kurt's schedule, he wants to drop in, do a little 20-minute chat at the conference,
maybe we can make that work.
And if he can't make it, at least we have a clause associated with the ticket sales where we could give back something.
Can we make the tickets NFTs?
Consider it done.
We do that.
You know, we did the tickets for Cosmoverse last year, and we're doing, you know,
we have our whole ticketing interface where, you know, anyone that's having an event can do NFT tickets
and then also buy them with either fiat or with crypto using Stripe.
So that is 100% doable, and I know the team will be on board for that.
But worst case, you know, if Kurt can't be there in person, you know, maybe you can do, like, you know,
a video that we can play there, but it would be amazing to have you there in person.
And easy to direct those funds over to the foundation, I'm guessing, even if it's paid in crypto, huh?
That's what I was here for.
Yeah, cool.
No, I'm going to harass probably you and Tank about this conference and see if we can get it done.
What do you think, Kurt?
Yeah, no, that's interesting.
Do you own any Bitcoin, Kurt?
A little bit.
There you go.
We have a question from Matt Anthony who just came up.
Hey, everybody.
Hey, Kurt, great to talk to you.
Kurt, as a Red Sox fan lifelong, is there – when you came to the team from Arizona,
can you describe what you felt like in terms of, like, the city and the fans and the intensity here?
Yeah, I wasn't ready for it.
So understand this.
I grew up as a fan of baseball.
I remember – my first vivid memory as a nine-year-old was the 75 Bucky Dent playoffs
and the World Series and Dodgers and Mr. October and all that other stuff.
But I grew up as a fan of the game, everything about it.
And so I understood – you know, I had heard about the fervor of the Red Sox fans and stuff.
And I played in Philadelphia.
And I played on the road.
I played in front of them.
I wasn't ready for it in any capacity.
And I certainly didn't understand or appreciate to the level of – that I should have the Red Sox-Yankee rivalry.
But I also had no problem with either for this reason.
I never had a problem with fans who booed me, who MF'd me, whatever, when I didn't perform.
I was getting paid an exorbitant amount of money to perform.
And when I didn't perform and fans booed me, that's what the hell they're supposed to do.
So I was always – especially in Philly, I was always – the fans were great to my family and I.
And Philly fans are known as a rough bunch.
And they are.
They only boo players that suck.
It's really that simple.
And as an athlete, I have to accept that, right?
I mean – and on the flip side, the ultimate sign of respect to me was playing in New York Stadium and having Yankee fans hate your guts.
Because Yankee fans don't boo players that suck.
They don't care about you.
They don't even acknowledge you.
And they're such smart fans that they will rip you apart during batting practice in the outfield by saying things about you and your mother and your family that are most times true and oftentimes hurtful, which makes them phenomenal fans.
You know, Philly fans did that physically.
They just beat the hell out of you.
But as a home player, you fall in love with those people.
Those are your guys.
Those are your troops.
And so I love playing in Philly.
I love playing in Boston.
Two different experiences.
Two incredibly great experiences.
But Boston was a different animal, man.
I mean, I thank God I got a chance to experience that level of intensity.
Because I really believe – and it was kind of true.
I think in 2004, when I was in Boston, I don't think we liked each other on the field.
You know, I respected Jeter.
You know, I respected the players and Clemens, obviously.
But there were guys on the team I didn't like.
I, like, personally didn't like.
And I think that there – you know, I think that's changed.
Because in the 70s, I think they fucking hated each other.
Like, really hated each other.
Like, didn't like each other.
Like, wanted to kick each other's ass.
And I think that tapered down and simmered down.
But there was still a rivalry in 2004 and 2005.
We didn't like each other.
But the real hatred was in the bleachers.
Yankee fans and Red Sox fans despise each other.
And that was always fun to watch.
Oh, there would be fights and shit all the time in the bleachers.
Yeah.
God forbid you wore, you know, an Ortiz or a Manny jersey or a Pedro jersey.
But generally, that's kind of how you – I would think as a fan,
that's how you knew not to mess with.
Because if you're stupid enough to wear a Red Sox jersey in Yankee Stadium,
you're basically telling everybody, I give zero Fs.
And come on, let's go.
Hey, Kurt, there's one more little side note.
But my wife and I, when we first started dating, it was in 2004.
We always joke, like, look at all the Boston titles we've brought, you know,
since we started dating.
Her first gift ever to me, it was a birthday present.
It was actually a ball you signed.
And she surprised me with it.
It was written in blue ink.
It's kind of fading now.
God, it's 20-something years old.
But I knew she was the one.
When she gave me a Kurt Schilling autographed ball.
Yeah, that's how you know.
I appreciate that.
From everyone here in Boston.
We never forget.
I appreciate that.
Thank you for joining, Matt.
I appreciate you, man.
We've got another question from Chad Griff.
Hey, Chad.
Cardinals fan here.
But I always enjoyed watching you play, Kurt.
Love that city.
Never in my mind dreamed that I'd be going to talk to you.
But two questions.
How big of a collection are you looking for, your NFT collection?
And about what is the price point are you looking for?
I'm going to let Ken take that first one.
Yeah.
So it's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood.
It's going to be a low supply somewhere in the neighborhood of about 300 or so.
Just because we want to make sure that the people that want to get involved in the collection
have a determination to do it.
And we want to be able to capitalize on the rarity of it to make sure that we're able to
donate as much money as possible to the ALS Association.
Because that's the primary goal here.
I know Kurt's just not doing an NFT collection just for the hell of it.
He wants to make sure that he's able to raise a significant amount of money for ALS Association.
We're looking at somewhere.
And it'll be probably, it won't be more than 1,000, but it'll be somewhere around a little bit below that.
Awesome.
I think that whenever you beat the Yankees, I think you had to beat the Cardinals to get to the Yankees.
I could be mistaken on that.
I got to tell you, though, in 04, that was people, we swept the Cardinals.
But I don't think people realized how incredibly talented that Cardinals team was.
That was a, they were a tremendous team.
But they didn't have the pitching.
They needed, they needed to have swing and miss pitching to get through our lineup.
And they didn't have any of that.
And no disrespect at all.
But before the series, when we were talking and going over scouting reports, we weren't even thinking about not winning the World Series.
We didn't know if they could beat us even a single game because of their pitching staff and our offense.
And it turned out that they could.
Thank you, Drew.
And, I'm sorry, by the way, one of my favorite cities in baseball.
Some of the greatest fans I've ever seen.
Yeah, St. Louis, they love baseball.
Yeah.
They're all about it.
They're all about it.
I was saying before you got it.
St. Louis, St. Louis is the National League version of Baltimore.
Yeah, for sure.
And I was saying earlier before you got on, that's one of the reasons I ended up going to school in Connecticut.
Because in 2003, I went up to a Red Sox and Yankees game.
I think it was Pedro.
It might have been Pedro and Clemens.
I can't even remember.
But the atmosphere was so good.
And I'm like a diehard Steeler fan.
And that's how I was here.
All right.
I was born a racist, Steeler fan.
Like, nice.
Well, like, not being sexist, but, like, women here will literally know, like, every quarterback that's ever been.
And, like, when I went up to school, when I went up to Connecticut, it was the same way.
Like, women knew, like, who the first baseman was.
Yeah.
I was impressed.
I was like, yeah, this is where I want to be.
Any woman that can name Terry Hanratty as a Pittsburgh quarterback gets, like, instantly engaged to me.
That's so fun.
But I live here.
It's, yeah, football is great.
I love baseball, too.
Yep.
Always fun to play in those towns where a sports team is like a religion to them.
Oh, that's how it is.
Like, we're the only city that every team has the same color, all black and gold.
Yep.
And real quick, Kurt, I know you had mentioned some of the utilities in the last space, and, you know, when I talked to you personally, but in terms of the utilities for the collection, do you want to – I know I said the price would be what it was, but I know you spoke of a couple of special, you know, added incentives, so to speak.
For a higher limit price on a couple of these, you want to talk about that?
Well, yeah.
Yeah, we're talking about doing things like a yearly interaction or monthly interaction for some of the premium pieces or a special group where we interact during the baseball season or going and watching a baseball game with me.
We haven't defined any of them yet, which we will, but they'll be worth whatever extra value we add to the token itself.
I'll make sure of that.
And then so the people also that get the standard one, they'll get a signed piece of memorabilia from you, like a card or something of that nature?
Yeah, right.
Right.
Awesome.
So, yeah, so everybody that purchased the NFT also get a signed probably card or something from Kurt, and we'll work that out over the next probably three weeks or so.
And the collection will be launching on June 2nd, which is Lou Gehrig's day on the MLB calendar.
And then hopefully this is something that we'll be doing for many years to come, you know, with Kurt's support on that.
So definitely looking forward to continued collaborations with you, man.
And just one question about the collection itself.
So how would you define success with this collection for you?
Like what does success look like for you in terms of this collection?
Whatever honestly raises the most money for ILS.
I mean, I can't think, I mean, I think the piece is absolutely phenomenal.
I think it is a work of art, and there's a lot of time and effort being spent on it.
A lot of energy being put into it.
And I think that, you know, we're going to raise awareness for ALS one way or another, and that's a good thing.
That's the win.
I couldn't have said it better myself, man.
Yeah, I appreciate you joining us tonight.
Does anybody have any last questions for Kurt before he goes?
I guess just a random question.
Do you think Barry Bonds will ever make the Hall of Fame?
Yeah, I don't think so.
No, because it's now in the, it's in the players' hands, and I don't think any of them will ever vote for him.
Yeah.
Last question I always wanted to ask you.
What were you, what were you thinking when Don Zimmer was charging the mound against Pedro?
Uh, what the fuck is he thinking?
Um, but, but I know and knew Don, uh, and that's exactly who he is, man.
You're one of his soldiers.
He's going to kill for you or get killed.
And I thought Pedro did the only sane thing you could do without, to not kill him.
Because every other physical reaction to that would have been to clothesline him, or to spear him, or he would have died.
So I'm glad he didn't.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Um, I guess that's a good way to, to put a cap on the space then.
Yep.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you for joining in.
All right, Ken.
Thanks, bud.
Take care.
Chef, nice job.
Thanks so much.
Yeah, great space.
Appreciate it, guys.
Thank you all for, uh, for being a part of it.
Um, so yeah.
Thank you guys for, uh, being a part of it.
Thank you, Zoe.
Thank you, Eric.
Thank you, uh, Haas.
And thank you, Joe.
And everybody else that was here.
Thank you, uh, Chad and Matt, for your questions.
Um, very much appreciate you guys.
And I hope you'll be, um, also claiming the NFT that we'll be, um, dropping as a proof of participation.
Uh, NFT that will be going through OmniFlix TV.
We'll be posting the video tomorrow.
And I've also taken a few screenshots or snapshots of the participants.
So I'll make sure that you guys that are participating in the, uh, in the, over here in the space, uh, that I reach out to you guys.
Personally, with, uh, either myself or the Flix fanatics, we'll be reaching out to you, uh, to send you the link for claiming the POP NFT, which will be dropped into your OmniFlix wallet.
And you, um, with OmniFlix TV, you can connect with either MetaMask or with Kepler, but don't connect with MetaMask or else you won't be able to get the, uh, NFT dropped to you.
Uh, cause the NFT will be coming from Cosmos, uh, from OmniFlix.
So make sure that you participate in the video with your Kepler wallet or Cosmos station or Leap or some Cosmos based wallet.
Um, and you will get the POP NFT sometime after the Flix token launch, which again is on 420.
And, um, the secret word for the NFT, uh, is just going to be Curt Schilling.
Uh, that'll make it easy.
And hopefully I didn't miss anybody with that.
Um, now just a reminder, Thursday is the big day.
Um, 420, which is the launch of the Flix token.
So that'll be launching on streamswap.io.
You can go in there and you can bootstrap, put some tokens in there from Osmo, put some Osmo in there.
And then in the next couple of days after the bootstrapping period, which is 36 hours, you'll be entitled to your share of Flix.
And if I was you, I would get in there early because just read the tokenomics.
Uh, that's the only, uh, breadcrumb I will leave you.
So thank you guys for the space.
Love you guys all be kind to each other and have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your evening and a great week ahead.
Thanks again, man.
This was awesome.
Thank you guys.
Appreciate it.
