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AMA | Earn Network 🤝 ORAI Chain
Recorded: Oct. 31, 2023 Duration: 0:50:01Space Recording
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Hey, Hoss.
Can you hear me all right still?
Yep.
Loud and clear.
Sounds good.
Beautiful.
Yeah, I mean, we can wait a minute.
We can just BS while people filter in or whatever.
I'm down for whatever.
Yeah.
Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
Yeah.
I'm doing this call out, I'm doing this call out on the candy trail with my two-year-old
who's already eating her candy.
So, yeah, I'm excited to be here.
Um, I love everything that's going on over at Mike Cointainer, earn network.
So, I'm really hyped to sort of get this out into the community so they know how much cool
stuff is going on.
It's going to be pretty cool.
Yeah, absolutely.
I got to use it myself and I'm, you know, good product for sure.
But that's crazy.
You guys are doing it that early.
We, we start, um, I think we're on the same time zone.
I start six o'clock, six to eight.
So, it was like perfect time.
I get done with this.
Um, I got the big candy bars waiting to hand out.
I don't know if I have enough.
So, I'm kind of having a little bit of anxiety about that.
I might run to the store and grab some more.
But, we don't get, we don't get too many kids.
But, you know, sometimes these kids, they'll spread the word.
Hey, this guy gives out the big candy bars.
And then we get way more than I should, you know, think about.
So, because I live like on top of a mountain.
And it's like not many people come up there.
But I try to reward the ones that are gritty, you know, that are willing to walk up a freaking
big ass hill to come up to Hoss's house.
I haven't quite figured out what's going on with the Halloween costume trend in New York
this year.
Trick or treating in New York is in general, I think, pretty weird because it's, it's such
a densely populated place.
But then it's also feels like really spread out.
To like go and walk around the different neighborhoods.
But, you know, the costume trend that I'm seeing a lot of is like the teenage boys are all wearing
like football jerseys and they're all covered in white paint.
And I can't figure out what that is.
Oh, it's shaving cream, my wife said.
I don't know what this is about.
It's a very interesting dynamic.
Yeah.
But, yeah, let's, let's go.
We got our, we got our guests up here already.
So, let's, let's get rocking, man.
Yeah, absolutely.
People can filter in.
The recordings are always good anyway.
So, let's see.
We got Bartos.
Do you say, do you pronounce the name Bartos?
Yeah, yes.
Bartos.
That's great.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Just a little quick intro.
So, I always like to ask my new guests that I really haven't had conversations with about,
you know, their journey in crypto.
Like, when did you get in about and why are you doing what you're doing now, basically?
Maybe a little bit about your background pre-crypto as well.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I mean, I mean, before I jump into the crypto stuff, I mean, I started generally
very early in my career.
So, two of my areas of interest always were design and finance.
So, yeah, I was kind of, you know, investing in stocks in 2005, 2006.
So, this was very, very, you know, a long time ago.
And then I got into the design as well.
So, I moved to London, working for Barclays Deutsche Bank, a lot of UX design agencies and
so on and so on.
And then I came back to Poland, kind of managed many teams, UX production, was general manager
as well.
So, and then, yeah, then the crypto that happened.
So, that was around 2016, 17.
Yeah, I saw a transition in the protocol that was supporting many blockchains, right?
So, you know, many coins were releasing.
I mean, all of the coins were releasing their products based on proof-of-work consensus and
then proof-of-stake consensus happened, right?
So, yeah.
So, this was like a great opportunity that I saw.
I thought, well, this is amazing because, you know, people don't have to, like, buy heavy
machines in order to participate into the protocol to earn rewards.
And, yeah, this was the main idea behind my container.
So, yeah, my container started in 2018.
It was a self-funded business.
It was actually one of the first staking platforms globally.
And it was first regulated in Europe.
Yeah.
So, it's been a great journey.
So, in 2021, we got a first round of financing from some of the VCs that you may know, like
Spartan Group, Shima Capital, and many others.
But, yeah, those three years were generally pretty tough, obviously, when we were self-funded
because, you know, we were supporting all operations from the revenue and, obviously,
my own funds.
And, yeah, and we are progressing with my container.
I can share more in a bit, obviously, with your questions.
And then, yeah, we also launched, very recently, an on-chain solution called our network that
I will also probably share more details a little bit later.
But, yeah, that's how I essentially got to crypto.
And maybe just last sentence, like, why did they get into the crypto?
And I saw what this was, like, just to maybe elaborate on this so that everybody knows,
I think, like, essentially earning yield from crypto was super hard.
Like, 2018, like, right now, we have a lot of staking protocols, platforms, and so on, so on.
It's super easy.
But 2018, when we started, everything was crashing.
The blockchains got resynced.
So, yeah, that's how custodial platform, my container, happened because, you know,
I always try to combine my experience of the design, user experience, and the finance
to actually help people to earn money from those proof-of-stake protocols
because it was super, super, super difficult in 2018.
So, yeah, that's the main rationale.
Yeah, so I'm going to do a really fast intro because I bet a bunch of people already know me.
But I'm just going to do a quick rundown.
My name is Tyree Robinson.
I am the head of ecosystem over at AraiChain.
I've been with the company since early 2021, shortly after the launch of our mainnet,
and have been with us ever since, and will probably be here forever.
When I first, you know, found out about my container, I realized that you guys,
number one, I was surprised that I hadn't heard about you.
And then when I saw the full sort of suite of options that you had available,
I was, like, really blown away because, you know,
obviously having the licensure to do sort of centralized or, you know,
custodial staking, I should say, is really amazing and difficult for a lot of people to navigate.
So that's a very impressive, you know, feat there.
But, you know, you also operate this node-as-a-service platform, you know,
and these solutions that are really user-friendly to allow anybody to be able to spin up nodes.
So I'm sort of, you know, interested in hearing, you know, where that came out of
and providing that node-as-a-service infrastructure for POS chains.
But then also, as we sort of, you know, go through this conversation,
I want to hear a little bit about the pivot from, you know,
the custodial staking option to earn network, which is the non-custodial option.
So, you know, take it away.
I want to sort of pass it to you for a few minutes here.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
That's an amazing question, obviously.
So maybe let's start with a node-deployment solution that you have mentioned.
So, yeah, just for everyone that is here, you know, maybe, and is listening.
So, in short, as I mentioned earlier, so MyContainer initially started as a platform for,
you know, normal users to stake very easily coins.
So you can imagine that in order to provide those yields for our customers,
we had to develop some sort of infrastructure on which our nodes were running, right?
So we realized after a while, you know, through many conversations with people,
we have many projects that some of them were not keen to collaborate with us
because we were custodial.
And that's obviously fair enough.
I think that's obviously we are all here to kind of support the decentralization.
So what we've done, we really utilized our infrastructure
and kind of built the interface on top of it such that anybody can now kind of come in
and deploy the nodes that we are supporting.
So I'll maybe share the link a little bit later under this conversation
where you can actually go to the solutions.mycontainer.com
and then you're able to deploy your node on our iChain
and I think maybe 20, 30 more there.
So this was the main idea such that we support decentralization
and also we can obviously give this abilities to the people and many projects.
And I think many projects actually, including you guys obviously,
look at this very, I would say, you know, very nicely
because, you know, it kind of helps you to scale the infrastructure
and so it's very easy to use.
Again, I will go back to this maybe, what I mentioned earlier, you know,
building the nodes or deploying your own nodes.
Maybe even a couple of years ago, you know, it was really, really hard.
You had to like do, you know, some crazy Linux stuff, you know, commands
and so on and so on in the console and you had to buy the servers
and things of that sort.
But now you can just go to solutions.mycontainer.com
and you can just click, click, click and then deploy things.
We have also useful guides.
So yeah, so now this is the rationale behind it and what we do.
So regarding our network, and this is again a great question.
So look, I think, again, when we look at, you know,
all of the products and everybody that is here also,
like generally speaking, I think the long-term objective
for everyone should be to build decentralized products
where everybody holds their own keys
and it's in charge of their own funds at all times, right?
So that's really where I think everything is headed essentially.
But there is a bit of a nuance here, obviously.
My container is primarily focused for the newcomers, right?
So newcomers, people that are yet not used to utilize maybe Metamask,
maybe Capital Wallet and so on and so on.
So they generally would come into my container.
They would generally, you know, deposit as assets
and they generally don't care, you know, about anything else.
They just want to have a peace of mind
and they want to, like, just see their rewards coming, right?
And, you know, hopefully we obviously support this with many guides
and over time we do also hope that they will kind of transition
into, you know, platforms like their network
where you can come in and you can use your own wallet
and you can, for example, delegate funds to our validator
directly from their wallet, right?
So then, you know, you would use their network.
Their network is primarily now focused on, you know,
people that are much more advanced in terms of using
non-custodial solutions.
And, yeah, so those are two different audiences.
They are obviously, you know, both very useful for, you know,
for many projects.
And that's how we see this.
So we want to cover not only what you've mentioned earlier,
we do actually cover quite a lot of spectrum of products,
which you've mentioned, but I think at some point
it's a lot to handle, but we also support the whole spectrum
of users from beginners to very, very advanced users.
So that's essentially the idea, which I think it's very kind of helpful
also for the projects and, you know, the community hopefully,
you know, such that we support, you know, somebody who's new
and somebody who is also advanced user.
Yeah, that's super awesome.
Go ahead, Haas.
Sorry to cut you off.
No, man, you're good.
I just was going to say, like, from a user perspective,
like what you guys are doing is great because, you know,
like it's starting to get better in general in crypto,
but all the data.
So if you're someone that's like, all right, I'm a, you know,
crypto maxi, I'm going to stake all these different assets throughout.
And then I know there's better things out there now
for like portfolio management, but there really is this lack
of data and knowledge for someone that wants to spin up
their own node throughout, you know, throughout crypto.
And you guys offer like a wide range of networks, you know,
not even just solely in Cosmos, which there's quite a few,
you know, in Cosmos.
And it's just nice, you know, a couple of years ago
when I started messing around with nodes, like you said,
you had to know command line, like CLI for anyone.
It's a command line interface and it's not really user friendly
and all the different chains have their own little nuances to it.
And so, so it's nice being able to like,
just kind of like plug and chug.
And if you're someone that's kind of like a well
or someone that has decent money and you're like, look,
I want to do this and not have to pay a commission fee
to a validator, like you can do it.
You know, even if you don't have a lot of financial
wherewithal, you can do it.
Like, I think I want to say there's monthly packages
around like $65 or so to run like a node and a validator.
So you can have your own validator really on chains, you know,
so that's pretty cool.
Yeah, I completely agree.
I mean, apart from that, what you've mentioned,
I mean, sometimes even though you had to use,
I mean, I will maybe say some things from the, you know,
history of this because, you know, I like the,
it's still a lot has changed as you mentioned,
but very, very often also if you followed the guides
that were provided to you with the command and CLI
and so on and so on, even they were failing, right?
So even the official guides sometimes were failing
because of this.
So they were not even precise.
They were not updated.
And yeah, for normal users,
it was really difficult to follow essentially.
So do you want to like kind of touch about like our network?
Like what is it?
When, you know, why and all that type of stuff?
Sure, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
So I can maybe share a few more words about our network.
And so, yeah, so essentially like, you know,
and again, I will maybe share you a little bit more info
and maybe a bit of experience what we saw
or what we actually still see with my container.
Like essentially one of the,
and this is also kind of the foundation
of why we are building our network.
So when we look at various yield kind of earning opportunities
or NFT staking or, you know, yield earning pools
and so on and so on,
essentially from 2018 or 17,
every single year you can see a few new things
coming in into crypto, right?
So, and it's getting harder and harder
for many new solutions
or yield earning opportunities
or things of that sort
to be integrated directly into centralized platforms.
It's getting really, really hard, I would say,
because there are many nuances on chain,
people's interactions and so on and so on.
And I think that's where our network
will come in very, very handy.
So, you know, like one of the things
that we have started right now with,
with, for example, NFT staking,
I can maybe mention that,
it's that, you know, a lot of projects,
you know, that we collaborate with,
they do want to share some value with users,
like NFT, they stake NFT, they get extra NFT
or maybe they stake their token,
they get extra NFT and so on and so on.
They would love to do that.
But now here is the one thing
that is generally stopping them.
Well, there are a few,
but one of the most important one
is the cost of developing it, right?
There's such a solution.
Yes, there are out there,
like some basic templates of, you know,
staking contracts and so on and so on.
But what is the most important is that
you, if you want to do something
a little bit more advanced,
you have to obviously build the interface,
you have to hire developers,
you have to audit the smart contract,
you have to obviously have the audience
and so on and so on.
That's obviously going to cost you some money, right?
And you as a project,
generally, if you are, you know,
gaming project or maybe, you know,
NFT projects,
you would probably prefer to spend your money
on your core roadmap where, you know,
you will build your value.
So we've developed those,
what we call no-code smart contracts,
where right now it's,
you don't see that if you go on their network
because we'll be launching that
on the open to public,
probably maybe in one month
or maybe two months.
Right now we are helping.
It's kind of like in a closed beta.
So projects are doing this
kind of, you know, with us,
with us directly.
So that's really what's coming in.
If you want to do such solution,
if you go to a network
and you look at various, you know,
DeFi pools that we have,
normally if you were to do it on your own,
it would take you maybe,
I would say, at least a month
and it would cost you maybe,
you know,
it depends, you know,
$30,000,
something around that, right?
So what we are trying to do
is to bring those solutions
to many different projects
and they could deploy
such opportunities
for their community
maybe in under one hour, right?
So they save a lot of money,
they can provide various yield earning
opportunities for their community
or various NFTs
and so on and so on.
That's essentially how we look
at one of the first categories
which we have developed so far,
which is NFT staking
and DeFi staking.
And then after that,
what we are doing right now,
we actually haven't made announcement yet,
so I think this is a special
information for you guys.
Obviously, if you go to their network,
you would see
the risk-taking category, right?
So this is very tightly connected
with the Cosmos ecosystem
and obviously
Ori chain as well.
So risk-taking was published,
actually moved to the production,
I think a couple of days ago.
So yeah,
so right now we are supporting
Ori,
we are supporting many
other projects
in the Cosmos ecosystem
which you can delegate directly
to validators
and you can risk-take
those tokens
in order to essentially
generate the most yield.
And again,
now you can see that
some of those things
are non-custodial.
They are very unique
in terms of what people
would want to do
so people can,
for example,
select when to claim the fees.
There is a lot of
essentially decisioning
that's happening
by each individual person.
And also,
regarding the DeFi staking
and the NFT staking,
you know,
again,
same thing will happen
to a lot of the decisions
will be community-driven, right?
So this is again
one of the things
that we will be bringing
on into the network.
And there will be many,
many categories in the future
but generally,
you know,
I don't want to like
spill so much information
ahead of the futures
because obviously,
you know,
it's amazing to talk about
the vision
and so on and so on
but, you know,
what really matters
is really what you deliver,
right?
So, yeah,
so that's essentially
what the network is.
And again,
I think one of the biggest
also leverage
that we can provide
and again,
this is very,
very useful
for many projects
is the community,
right?
So not only my,
any,
every single solution
that will be available
in the non-custodial way
on our network,
it will be eventually
integrated into my container.
So if you,
again,
imagine if you are
the new project
that is coming
into the crypto space
and you want to distribute
NFTs,
maybe some tokens,
maybe you have
very interesting
learning opportunity
as a product,
we would integrate,
you know,
you or you would do it
on yourself
on our platform
and then,
you know,
you would gain access
to my container community,
your network community,
which if interested
obviously in your product
would be,
you know,
keen to participate
in your product.
So that's also
one of the most
important things
that I see
we can be very helpful
for the new projects.
So let me take a step back.
Basically,
like if someone's running,
they're using your service
to run a validator,
they'll have the opportunity
to like say airdrop
like NFTs
to the people
that are delegating to them
through your platform?
It's a good idea.
It's not available yet,
but we are thinking
of something very similar
with the version 2
on the DeFi
and NFT staking
right now,
but yes,
it will be soon.
Something very similar
will be available
on the risk-taking.
I'm actually smiling
a little bit
because it's something
that we were discussing
internally with the team
a couple of days ago,
how to enhance
essentially risk-taking.
And by the way,
maybe I will just share
more things here.
So if you generally
do direct delegation
to validators,
you only will be earning
standard rewards.
That's the baseline.
Second,
if you will start
doing the risk-taking,
obviously,
you will get
compounded rewards,
which will give you
probably the highest yield.
But you can go even further,
and this is what you've mentioned,
Cosmos Host,
that there could be
a third layer here.
And those were
the extra rewards
could come in.
So, for example,
you could incentivize
further people
to select,
for example,
your validator
if you,
for example,
deliver them
various types of rewards
or NFTs
or things of that sort.
And that really,
again,
gives that opportunity
that you would earn
probably the highest
level of rewards,
right?
You know,
compounded yields
from the risk-taking
plus extra rewards
that any,
you know,
validator owner
could provide you,
right?
So this is
something that we
were thinking
internally to do it.
But it's not live yet,
just to be clear.
No, no,
that's fine.
It just was thinking
down the road
because it would be
kind of nice
for,
because I just started
running the validator
and I want to do
a few more.
I think now's
a good time to do that.
So it would be nice
to potentially do
something like that
or like a raffle
and it's kind of
just easy to do
and a lot
than having to do it
through like the command
line and all that.
But anyways,
I know,
Tyree,
you had something
to say.
Yeah,
so I guess
the first thing
I wanted to say
is that,
you know,
obviously no code,
low code
you know,
such a big trend
right now,
right?
And more than just
being like a trend
or a narrative,
it's extremely necessary
to scale the space,
right?
When I look at,
you know,
our current active
set of validators
and,
you know,
I've got so many
people in the community
that would happily
operate a node
and then I point them
to the documentation
to do that,
they're like,
it's not possible.
You know,
it's a little bit
too difficult,
it's too out of range
and so your solution
right now on that front
is extremely powerful
because it really
takes the process
for even a newcomer
down to less
than an hour
for them
to create a node
with zero experience.
The one thing
I wanted to ask you
sort of on that front
you know,
is there sort of
a risk of centralization
since you guys
would be,
you know,
running a lot
of infrastructure,
let's say there were
a bunch of people
on a single network
that were using
your node as a service,
you know,
what are the sort of
risks there
for the network
say,
there was some kind
of failure
on your part
and how have you
guys mitigated
those risks?
Yeah,
sure,
sure,
great question.
so maybe the two points
here that I think
is worth mentioning.
I mean,
maybe I will also
give an example
here and I think,
I think one of the,
the,
probably the good example
with the centralization
was,
I think what
probably LIDO did
with the,
with the tokens
that people were
starting to see
this as a risk
that there are
too many ETH tokens
delegated to LIDO
and I think they
kind of said
that,
that threshold.
It's probably
not the,
not the going
to happen
with,
with,
with our iChain
as of now,
I think,
because of the validators.
However,
there is the second
point here
that we generally
do have
nodes spread out
across of the world,
right?
so it's not
that we
have our own
dedicated
kind of place
where we have,
you know,
some of the,
some of the nodes,
but generally speaking,
like,
I would say even
of the,
of the
infrastructure
it's globally
distributed,
right?
So we have some,
you know,
quite large amount
of servers
in Frankfurt,
for example,
in US,
we have also
in France.
So even if there is,
you know,
say,
you know,
failure in,
in some data centers,
then,
you know,
that node would not be
available for some time
until we bring it back
or the issue were fixed.
But,
but generally there is no,
I think,
you know,
like having
probably,
you know,
a couple of
places to,
you know,
to fail.
At the same time,
it's,
it's like,
close to,
close to zero,
right?
So those,
those data centers
are spreaded out
across the world.
Yeah,
I think also,
that's something
that we,
we might think of
of adding,
I think,
in the future
is that,
yeah,
I think,
you know,
some sort of piece
of maybe data
or information
where the users
themselves
could pick
the location
where they would
like to deploy
the node,
right?
So for example,
they could see
where other nodes
on the right chain
are located.
and,
yeah,
obviously to,
to mitigate
the,
the risk,
you know,
they could select
the alternative location
or we could actually
do it,
you know,
let's say some,
with a simple logic,
right?
you know,
pick the location
that is not,
that there are no nodes,
right?
Such that there is
a stability
in the,
in the,
in the infrastructure.
It's not there yet,
but,
but,
because it's done
manually right now,
but yeah,
if we reach
certain level
and certain scale,
then,
you know,
then,
then we can,
we can think
of doing this,
but,
but yeah,
I mean,
it's certainly,
yeah,
there,
there's no,
like,
I would say,
practical risk
of this happening,
you know,
anytime soon
and then probably
in the practice
too,
yeah.
Yeah,
that's awesome.
And then on the other,
the other no code part,
which is talking about
sort of your,
your no code services
that you're offering
for projects,
I think this is also
really important too,
you know,
again,
we talk about how we
scale up the entire industry
and there's going to be
a lot of communities
that don't necessarily
have the expertise.
NFTs is actually
a really good example
of that,
right?
People that had
never done anything
in blockchain before
were able to go on
to Rarible
or OpenSea
and use these
minting contracts
without any code
and instantly be able
to create artwork.
Now,
there's a lot of people
that were sort of,
you know,
creating their own contracts,
but,
you know,
Foundation,
Rarible,
they also had a lot of people
on those platforms
who were,
you know,
traditional fine artists
and this ended up being
a bridge for them,
right?
I'm really excited
about the idea
of having those services
available.
Now,
I'm just curious,
are those,
are those services
and contracts
that you offer
only for Earned Network
or are they
deployed over
to other native chains
like Arai Chain
or Secret
or any of those
other chains?
Yeah,
yeah,
sure.
yeah,
maybe I will sort of
reiterate what you've
mentioned regarding
the no-call.
I think it's superbly
important.
I really do want to
emphasize this is
superbly important.
Like,
I think there are many
blockers to crypto
adoption,
but one of them
is the simplicity,
you know,
user experience,
ease of use,
understanding,
you know,
in the interface,
things of that sort,
right?
Like,
this is crucial
and I think
one of the most
important things.
But yeah,
as you mentioned,
like,
you know,
again,
I would just maybe
touch on this point,
like,
at some point,
we will have lending
also available
on our network
and,
like,
this is so,
so profound,
I think,
that,
you know,
right now,
if you want to
get a loan,
you know,
there are some
services,
centralized services,
but eventually
it would be awesome
if everybody could,
you know,
kind of borrow land
you know,
with their own
conditions.
And for that,
you would need,
you know,
very nice smart
contract that is
audited,
you know,
you click a few
parameters,
how much you are
willing to pay,
you know,
what amount you want
to borrow and so on,
so on,
maybe you put some
collateral and things
of that sort.
And then we kind
of open,
you know,
you know,
let's say global
way for people
to land and borrow,
but that is one
category.
But yeah,
that's in essence
what we are trying
to accomplish now,
how to deploy this
across the different
networks and make
sure that this is
working.
So currently,
this is available
only on the EVM
based chains,
obviously such as
Ethereum,
BNB,
but very,
very shortly,
we will be
deploying all of
those smart
contracts,
gradually,
not all of
them in one
to many
different
blockchains,
right?
you know,
I don't want to
maybe share
exactly which
one because it
would be a
little bit ahead
of time,
but yes,
there will be,
there will be,
there is,
this is going to
happen,
right?
so yes,
so we will be
doing this.
That means that
eventually,
any solution
that regarding
the NFTs or
DeFi staking
should be
available across
of the
blockchains,
right?
obviously,
this will be
dependent where
the users are,
where they would
like to do
certain things,
and so on,
so on,
right?
so we,
yes,
we are looking
into this,
and yeah,
we just,
we just,
we just kind
of obviously
wants to scale,
grow,
grow,
grow with,
with partners,
with community,
where they see,
you know,
which chain
they love,
where they would
like to deploy
or stake their
NFTs.
Yeah,
this is certainly
on our pipeline,
probably,
I would say,
maybe I can just
share,
I think early next
year,
we will have
one new chain,
that is,
you know,
I think this is
called,
it's a VASM
based chain,
it's not EVM,
so it's completely,
you know,
a new set of code
that is required,
different types
of developer,
so yeah,
so this will be,
this will be,
hopefully,
yeah,
interesting,
say,
opening of the
new types of
chains,
you know,
in addition to
the platform,
so yeah.
Yeah,
that's super awesome,
and then I guess
the last sort of
thought that I
had was more
related to a lot
of what we're
working on with
large language
models and how
we wrap the,
you know,
take the LLM
layer and really
make the most
value out of it
for the Web3 space,
so I see a lot
you know,
whether it's,
you know,
somebody like
Yieldmos who's
sort of supporting
a bunch of
different chains
in the Cosmos
or Earn
network,
I think that
there's a lot
of opportunities
to sort of
get that data
and see what's
going on with
validators in
Yield and be
able to,
you know,
have that data
available for
your large language
model to translate
and meet the
user's intent,
right,
because,
like,
that's really
where I view
AI as being
such a big
mover in the
space,
is being able
to actually
take user
intent and
then translate
that into
action and
really facilitate
easy execution,
so in terms
of sort of
data available,
you know,
like,
what kind of
APIs and
developer tools
do you guys
have ready now
or do you
plan in the
future for
integrations?
Yeah,
sure,
I mean,
this will be
very,
very important,
right,
so we will be
looking at
various types
of oracles,
yeah,
so this is
where you guys
probably would
come in handy
where various
types of data
may be
enhancing
various user
interactions,
so yeah,
so we are
taking various
types of
data right
now from
different
sources,
right,
so they are
both centralized
sources,
yeah,
such as
CoinGecko
regarding the
prices,
regarding the
asset names,
tickers,
things of that
sort,
and obviously
all of the
data that is
coming from
chains,
which is,
you know,
essentially the
events-driven
data,
right,
you know,
for example,
if there are
any transactions
happening on
Ethereum,
we're obviously
looking at
the Ethereum
chain and
obviously
pulling all of
that data
directly from
the Ethereum
chain or
BNB chain
or any other
chain that
the token is
supported on,
again,
regarding NFT
data,
same,
you know,
it's all
connected to
the blockchain
data,
so it's live
data,
but yeah,
I mean,
this is really
exciting,
I love what you
guys are doing,
essentially,
I think this
is something
that,
you know,
it could be,
you know,
the oracles
and the API
endpoints,
it's,
you know,
it's probably,
again,
it's,
I think it
could be,
if you guys
obviously perform
this,
you know,
delivered as
extremely well,
because it's,
you know,
it's not an easy
task,
obviously,
but if you
perform it
exceptionally well,
I think,
and this could
be like the
next sort of
layer,
or not even
the layer,
next step
towards the
standard oracles
and data
that you guys
will be providing,
so yeah,
I see many
use cases
with this,
yeah,
regarding the
data,
you know,
how this can
be integrated
in the future
on our platform,
so yeah,
I'll be looking
forward to what
you guys,
you know,
deliver constantly,
and yeah,
yeah,
hopefully,
yeah,
hopefully we will
be able to,
to utilize,
you know,
your endpoints,
yeah,
I had a brief
look at,
again,
your white
paper,
and yeah,
it's certainly
an endeavor
worth embracing
because we see
it's,
you know,
on the frontier
of what's
happening right
now.
Yeah,
thank you,
and you know,
I've,
again,
I'm a fan
of your products,
I use your
products,
you know,
that's,
that's always
the,
you know,
there's a lot
of people in
this space
where,
you know,
you work
with them,
you do some
Twitter spaces
together and
all that,
but I will
tell you that
I am a
MyCoinTainer
user and
I love
everything that
you guys have
done and,
you know,
and I have a
huge amount
of confidence
in you and
I'm excited
to see,
you know,
EarnNetwork
really grow,
especially as
you move more
into the
non-custodial
direction,
I think that's
going to be
huge and,
you know,
every opportunity
that we have
to collaborate,
I am here
for that,
so yeah,
I really
appreciate your
time today
and taking
some of my
questions,
Haas,
I'm going to
pass it to
you,
I'm sure
you got
some.
Yeah,
I mean,
that's like
a reciprocal
agreement,
like I'm
always a big
fan of people
that are
building things
to help
this space
move forward
and get
mass adopted
or more
adopted
and just
better tooling
and just
ease of use
because that's
what it's
really all
about,
you know,
like there's
things out
there right
now where,
you know,
I want to
say I'm
pretty much
like an
expert in
this space,
so if I
can't use
something,
then it's
really not
a good,
it's just
not a good
product,
but I've
been seeking
like even
my wife
more because
you know,
she's really
technical sound
but she's not
real big into
like doing
different things
in crypto,
so it's like,
hey,
go try this
application out
or go see
if you can
figure this
out and
if she's
having like
a lot of
issues and
I just know
that that
application or
platform or
protocol,
whatever you
want to call it,
is not up to
date because
you know,
she's really
good with the
computer,
so like if
she's not
able to do
it and
you know,
people that
aren't good
with the
computer then
obviously can't
do it,
so that's
kind of what
my testing is
for things
now and
I've been
kind of
looking around
throughout all
of crypto and
you know,
it is getting
a lot better,
I know my
two plus years
of being in
this space,
things are
getting there but
there's,
it's like a
turtle,
right?
It's like not
a sprint,
it's a marathon,
we all know
that we're still
extremely early but
for me,
I just am a
fan of,
I don't care who
it is,
what chain it
is or what
protocol it is,
you know,
obviously I have a
preferential treatment
to things that
are built in
IVC because I
believe in
interoperability
and all that but
just anything in
general in crypto
that's gonna get
more people over
here,
make them feel
more comfortable,
more safe,
more secure,
I'm all for it so
like that's my
little rant about
what you guys have
going on and I'm
excited for that
and to see
like your
progression further
and all that so
you can always
count on me to
help,
you know,
pass the mic
and speak and
help and do
whatever I can
from my side of
things because
that's kind of,
I align with
that,
you know,
like my thing
in this space
has always been
to kind of
educate and
help people
feel more
comfortable and
I've spent
thousands and
thousands of
hours researching
different,
you know,
technologies and
then using
things and,
you know,
my kind of,
you know,
my kind of
thing is like
most people
don't have
that much
time so
when they do
get in here
I want to
try to help
them expedite
that learning
curve and
so kudos to
you guys for
doing it because
I know I've
been using my
coin container
and it's a
really good
product and
I'm all about
good products
in this space
so that's,
you know,
good job,
keep up the
good work and,
you know,
I'm always here
to help spread
the word.
Yeah,
cool,
sounds fantastic,
I mean,
thank you,
thank you for
very good words
and I will just
maybe,
you know,
kind of reiterate
to one of
your points,
I think we are
pretty much the
same,
like we do
and again,
we do kind
of have a
very strong
focus on the
product and,
you know,
for everybody
listening,
again,
I think this
is a piece
of advice,
you know,
I'm not even
referring here
to us but
like when you
see a lot
of projects,
you know,
in a space,
just always,
you know,
be cautious,
you know,
you know,
people like
painting you
kind of like,
you know,
amazing vision but,
you know,
when you start
using their product,
it's like,
it's like
essentially
nothing there,
so yeah,
just a bit of,
you know,
piece of kind
of advice
and a caution
here that,
like,
look at what
people generally
deliver,
you know,
look at their
track record,
what they've
done so far,
you know,
how their
product is
working,
you know,
start using
this,
get into
the details,
you know,
test it,
test it as
you've mentioned
and that
may have
your opinion,
so yeah,
look more
into the
product,
the quality,
what it
really delivers,
you know,
what's the
value for
you,
rather than,
you know,
looking at
the,
you know,
amazing
presentations
because
presentations
are generally
easy,
but delivery,
I always say,
delivery is the
hardest part,
it's really,
you know,
ideas are generally
easy,
the delivery is
really,
really difficult,
really difficult,
it really takes
a lot of effort,
patience,
a lot of details
that you have
to put together,
the budgets,
the people,
it's like tons
and tons of
variables that
you have to
put together,
so yeah,
just to kind of
reiterate on your
point that
I'm glad that,
you know,
I'm glad to hear
those words,
again,
we've been,
yeah,
we've been working
sorry,
just the last
sentence on this,
I'll pass the mic
to you,
yeah,
so again,
you know,
we've been working
my container,
like this quality
wasn't,
it's really hard
to achieve,
you know,
in a couple
of months,
like,
you know,
quality generally
is built through
throughout the time
through iterations
for user feedback,
you know,
sometimes things
obviously initially
will not work,
so you have to
get the feedback
right,
you know,
you have to
assess things
and deliver
the improvements
and over time
you actually get
something that,
you know,
users can be
generally happy with,
so yeah,
just to put
that point on.
Yeah,
I mean,
that's always how
the perspective
should be
for like community
members,
investors,
or whomever,
is like you
should obviously
do your research
but you should
use the product
and see if you
like the product
and if you don't
like the product
but you think
it's a good idea,
maybe reach out
to the team
and see if they'll
actually listen
to your feedback
and if they don't
then maybe that
should just caution
you right there
that they're not
willing to listen
and because
that's the way
this all improves
is if the developers
take,
you know,
I guess feedback
from the community
because that's
technically your customer
and,
you know,
not that the customer
is always right
but if there's
more complaints
from the general
overall customer
then that's probably
a pinpoint
that that particular
protocol or application
team or chain
needs to fix
and make it more,
you know,
user-friendly
because that's like
the moral of the story
in this space
is like that's who's
going to win
in the long run
like maybe people
can,
I like to say
people can polish
a turd
in the short term
but like in the long term
the things that are
you know,
good tech
but also user-friendly
are the ones
that are going to
last this,
like I said,
it's not a sprint
marathon
I mean,
I personally
don't have anything
further
and sadly
like it is
Halloween here
in the States
and I know Tyree's
like jamming out
and walking around
and I'm actually
about to start
handing out candy
here soon
so like we,
I have like 10
more minutes or so
but if anyone
had any following
thoughts or Tyree
if you wanted to
say anything
before we wrap it up
I just appreciate
your time
it's probably
one of many
spaces in the future
and you're always
I know we're all
in different time zones
but we do
a weekly space
every Saturday
at 15 UTC
now I know
different locations
are doing
whatever it's called
the time
the bullshit
where you move
the clocks forward
or backwards
and all that
so like the time
might be different
for people
but you know
15 UTC
is 11 a.m.
currently
in the States
so 11 a.m.
Eastern
so you're always
welcome to stop
by at that time
and just updates
or just talk shop
we just like talking
crypto AI
and every other
topic in crypto
so you're always
welcome to stop
by Bartos
yeah cool
fantastic
I mean yeah
again I think
it's a great time
for you to
enjoy the Halloween
we in Poland
right now
in Poland
we do not
celebrate
that much
Halloween
but yeah
it's
946 p.m.
so it's a bit
late
a few more
maybe
maybe one more
two more hours
of work
and I will be
done for today
but yeah
again
I just want to say
a big thank you
for you guys
for inviting me
again
for the community
to this thing
again as always
as always
you know
use our product
give us the honest
feedback
even if it's harsh
we always take it
we always strive
to improve it
and yeah
again thank you
for listening
thank you for
having me
and obviously
you know
we wish you
everything good
and yeah
thanks again
yeah and I guess
on our way out
the door here
I just want to
want to sort of
you know talk
one last
one last bit
about you know
again you guys
have been in the
business for six
years
you know
specifically in crypto
like that's very
impressive
it's amazing
actually
and you know
the experience
that you guys
bring really
comes through
in your product
because recently
we had a
software upgrade
and I was
trying one of
your you know
node as a service
nodes and I was
very worried
I was like okay
I wonder if my
node is going
to sync
and update in time
and be a part
of the network
when it restarts
and my node
was an
automatically
you know
completely managed
by the my
container
you know
infrastructure
right you guys
manage that
entire software
upgrade
seamlessly within
15 minutes
my node is up
and running
that is
I mean
I was you know
beating experience
validators
you know to being
part of the active
set right so
this software
works it was
worth me paying
for and I love
working with you
guys and look
forward to working
with you in the
future so thank
you Bartos
so amazing
amazing yeah
yeah I mean I
have the same
same thoughts
here I mean I'm
using you guys
and I'm looking
to you know
expand into more
validators and
things like that
and the problem
before the reason
I really didn't
get into validating
is not because I
didn't really know
too much of what
I was doing I
kind of understood
it it was just
the due to the
traveling and
everything else and
I was just like it's
just not worth it
at the time but
like now I feel
comfortable using
what you guys are
offering and it's
just really easy to
kind of keep care of
it and touch base
and look into it
and it's really
simplistic and so
you know shout out
to you guys but
yeah thank you
everyone that
tuned in listen
live listen to
the recording I
hope you guys have
a great rest of
your you know your
your day night
evening wherever
you're located
morning so take
care everyone
thank you guys
again bye-bye
all right bye
bye-bye
