AMA with Celo

Recorded: Jan. 26, 2023 Duration: 1:05:31

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Hey, Jere. What's up? Hey, Carole. Thank you. Would you mind making me co-hosts that way I can give anybody else speaker access as needed?
Yeah, for sure.
Okay Simon, also shared with you speaker access.
Hey Rebecca, welcome.
Hey, here Rebecca. Now you should be able to speak.
Hey, hey guys, let's check my mic.
Yes, sounds good. Orion, great, great, great.
And also, Kirro or Joe, can you please make me a co-host as well?
I can see a Jason here. Hey Jason.
I went ahead and gave speaker access to Jason and Simon and upright. Rebecca, I don't think I can as a co-host make you a co-host. I think Rural has to do that.
All right, all right, thank you.
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Okay, we're just getting started. Let's maybe wait for five more minutes to get all of our speakers in. Please guys, if you already joined and you a speaker, please kindly
repost so more people can join and listen about alpha growth, about cello, and about projects that are building on cello. I'm sorry, I really bad at pronouncing things.
Pedro Simon, how are we doing this morning? Oh, good. Thank you. Where are you guys calling in from?
I'm calling in from Tokyo, so it is midnight here, but feeling very fresh. Wow, we really appreciate you. You're joining in.
Is there a lot of, I know we were talking to a group this week that's taken vacation for the Lunar New Year in Tokyo. Is there a lot of that going on right now?
Actually not so much, I would say more popular in China and Korea. But they have their holidays. So yeah, it's all fun and games all the time.
Anyway, I'm Tokyo. Okay, I've never been. It's definitely on the list. What about you, Pedro? Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me on the two spaces. I'm calling in from from Lisbon. Have you guys been here? Beautiful.
was just there for a ETH Lisbon this summer. Actually, no, that wasn't this summer. That would have been or last October. Yeah, October November. Yeah, right before the FTX. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It was a great time. I love Portugal. That's one of my favorite places on earth.
Yeah, it's a cool place space to do.
Well, we really appreciate you guys being flexible with the timing. It's not easy to get you know Asia Europe and America all on one on one call so we really appreciate you guys accommodating here
Happy to be here.
Jason, I've tried to give you some speaker access. I'm not sure if anything's coming through on your end.
Jason may be trying to rejoin using the link on your DM messages.
Hey Brian, welcome.
I have a suspicion that Twitter is lagging.
I hope that's the only problem. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Let me just check on everyone. Super excited for Sello today. Super excited for Sello.
We have Jason from cello Jason's here, but he's for some reason I don't think he's able to accept the speaker invitation. We've been trying for several minutes here
- Yeah, she's in a foot. - Yeah. - Sometimes bounce out, leave the app kind of like, you know, shut down the app, hard, hard reset and come back. You don't have to shut off your phone, but that works a lot. We get, we get rugged by Twitter all the time.
Yeah, on a weekly basis. Also another thing super obvious usually, but if you not access from mobile device, this is also another reason. Oh Jason. Hey Jason. Hey finally finally got this working.
How did you do it? Switch devices, switch platforms, switch browsers. So you were on a desktop? Yes, yes I was. That was the reason. It only works in mobile, kind of like cello, right, moving towards
mobile usage because lots of people are using mobile nowadays. But yeah, glad to be sort of the south. Absolutely, likewise. Really great to meet you all and thank you Pedro and Simon for coming on board.
Much appreciated to everybody. Yeah, we've got Jason from Cello. We've got Simon from Cargo and we've got Pedro from Talent. Much appreciated guys. If one of we kicked things off with everybody just given a very brief introduction on who they are and what they're building.
I can go first. Can you guys hear me? Okay. Law and clear. Awesome. Alright, so, look, Talent Physical is the least capital app. So we are on a mission to help the next generation of builders
achieve fulfillment and success, especially those builders joining WebTree. We do this by increasing their visibility, by helping them create powerful connections and engaging other
builders to building and less or not less build up their self-confidence. You can go on talentphotical.com and keep off by clicking your web to resume. Beautiful, beautiful,
future driven profile and then you can start staking with our native token called Tal in other people's careers and we have a bunch of other things coming up for our protocol of
around grants. I just want to get everyone excited, but I think we'll be able to cover a lot of the lot more use cases for top dealers in future developments we're doing for our town.
Thank you Pedro.
Simon, we're by you. Hi, yes, Simon here from cargo. We actually help wealth management firms or funds exit onto the onto the blockchains or into defy basically. It's not
just about allowing them to trade but also manage strategies and the more wealth they actually manage on chain, the more interesting types of assets you can even start creating. We've started with real
assets and we're about to have a closer deal very soon to bring a large sum on chain and I would like to think that you could really
think of DeFi a bit differently if you think of this direction because whilst there are lots of DeFi protocols that try to manage all kinds of functions that can exist, just looking at the way that
investors look at money and the returns they want and what means something to them. They can get greater meaning from
their assets if they are all interconnected on chain. But it's a long road to get there of course, but this is what we're trying to help them do.
Awesome. Thank you, Simon. And Jason. Yeah, hey, so I had a founder programs at the Salah Foundation. So that includes the programs that keep conveyor belt, startups,
the ecosystem and also building out the platform that supports them. So ranging from fundraising, product, engineering, tokenomics and hiring and these are some of the most bespoke functions that we're currently working out inside.
Outside of work, I quite actively invest. I also teach a course that's centered around crypto at Miami University and I'm a published academic as well. And I really enjoy working closely with startups and helping them
ship interesting product especially on the sell-out platforms. I'm quite excited to speak with you about broadening of things and with my friends Pedro Simon and Alone as well. I think Alone is the profile that is sell-out camp.
audio alone. Thank you Jason and great to be here among some familiar people. Simon and Pedro are great to see you guys and Jason. My name is Alonso Vitt and I'm the program director and
co-founder of AppRite, AppRite is the company that runs CelloCamp. CelloCamp is an eight-week virtual acceleration and mentorship program for the Cello ecosystem. We help founders launch and scale their projects on the Cello blockchain. I'm excited to join this call and share
If you have some insights about the program and where you can participate, I'm also a little bit of a technical guy in my background that used to work on identity management for a company called GIGIA before jumping into the
a web 3 space, so super excited to be here and calling in from Miami. Beautiful, thank you a lot. Jason speaking of Miami, I wanted to ask, I think it's incredible that you're a professor. Are you at University of Miami in Florida or Miami University in Ohio?
Yeah, it's almost a misconception that trips people up quite often. That's the one that I have been to. I really like it up there. It's a cool little quaint college. Yeah, very cool. So do you live up there? No, I actually live in Dubai.
So it's quite eastward and yeah, I travel quite a bit, but I live in Dubai Okay, phenomenal. So you're doing just a lot of the the virtual stuff obviously Yep, that's right. Yeah, beautiful. Well, thank you so much. Why don't we dive right in guys if if someone
But probably Jason wouldn't mind just kind of explaining, "Cello in simple terms. What are you guys doing? What's the vision?" And we'd love to hear about that. Yeah, absolutely. In Lone Pedro Simon Feel Free to chime in. "Cello is a mobile first
blockchain and that is fully EVM compatible. A lot of cool mission-aligned applications building projects on top of it. We have a pretty vibrant ecosystem that's building applications across the board, ranging from DeFi payments, social tokens, all the way to
to prefy and more at the intersection of climate and crypto, which we're quite excited about. I think what's unique about the platform is the vibes and the people. So a lot of good people that are building really interesting things and very eager to support for the success of the platform.
I have a good fortune of working with a lot of them in the earlier stages. Having come on board pretty early, while my background is pretty technical right now, a lot of my focus is on the business strategy front, so I get to experience the good stuff and I'm quite excited about the future.
in terms of our movement into the ReFi space and targeting startups in the ReFi space. So I hope that's helpful context. Absolutely. Yeah, there's a couple things that I'd like to dive into right there. First of all, can you tell us a little bit more about the mobile first focus?
Yeah, absolutely. So, Solo is mobile first in that it's implemented a ultra light client interface that allows you to interact with the mobile, I mean with the blockchain using just a mobile phone, which at the time is quite
quite innovative, quite unique. And secondly, aside from this, we also have Plumo, which is the ultra light client, which syncs through the blockchain super fast. About 17,000 times faster than a lot of the other clients that are available. And we also
also have mobile number identity mapping. So what there is is instead of having to memorize a 40 character address, you can now send money to a mobile phone number that doesn't necessarily store it in a decentralized way so you won't actually be able to access
the mobile number and affiliated to a particular person, but you can send cash to a familiar mobile number thereby creating a very unique, you know, empathetic, well-friendly experience. And the big picture to all of this is basically it comes down to us
wanting to build out an experience that makes sense for our end users. And a lot of our early research when we did pilots in Africa and across different countries alluded and pointed to the fact that mobile is where the blockchain needed to be in order to gain mass adoption. And so in a big way, a lot of our foreas into this space
involved thinking about the intersection of mobile and blockchain and yeah these are some of the interesting features that have been implemented by no means of these exhaustive. I think there's a lot of cool stuff in the works including SDKs, you know, escrow contracts that allow you to send without a mobile number actually in tag to a
smart contract or this but yeah I hope that answers your question. Absolutely does and the billion dollar question that I have is when is Cello coming out with their own phone? Ben, do you have an answer for this?
I actually don't actually left the new site. It totally makes sense. I have absolutely no idea. I just want to compliment your previous questions. Say hello to our own as well.
I mean, SELO has been a blast. I think the most important thing for us in town, for the college and in the community side, is SELO, which we haven't talked about much. SELO camp in particular,
was the segue, the door into the cell network system, at least for us. And I mean, I'm good friends with founders. I met at Celloucamp, we held each other, and I met other founders off the Celloucamp
as well, building in the cell like a system. And yeah, it's been a pleasure. I just wanted to talk a little bit about the community because that question on the phone, I absolutely no idea, but I think it would be super awesome.
So that's pretty good segue then. I would love to hear a little bit from a lot and maybe Jason as well and Simon about cello camp and what that was like and what that looks like for people building in Web 3.
Actually before we segue into that I'd love to just clarify on the phone I think like integrating and like moving down the stack is definitely a cool prospect I think a lot of our partners are excited about thinking more about this while our focus happens to be across the stack like going and descending further across the block
blockchain is definitely an exciting prospect that I will take back and think more about for our team to kind of crunch on but thank you so much for pointing that out to you. What do you want? Yes, so maybe I'll add to that and there is an interesting connection that can be formed between Telecom and the blockchain
So in the cello alliance, Deutsche Telekom, which is one of the biggest mobile providers in Europe, is actually a member of. And so actually there's a lot of relevance there. I can point out to teams to pass alumni of cello camp like
that are working on interesting solutions that are involving telecom and also Ghana, that is also based here in Miami that is working here and was an alumni. So there is definitely a connection and interesting things that
We can do with connectivity and because mobile is actually also access to the internet, access to the Western society and also can be a mean to
to provide access to financial tools. So definitely relevant. I don't think we are at the point of building a mobile phone, but it's an interesting idea. So maybe I'll segue into
cello camp and what it is and in our community. So cello camp, as I mentioned, is a program to help founders build and launch their projects on cello. We try to create a space where founders can meet each other, can collaborate because Web 3 is all about
collaborations, it's built like Lego blocks. So this is something that we are very passionate about and trying to foster. And the resources we are providing founders with are mentorship. I think it's crucial for a team
We connect founders with VC funds with grants and we have a curriculum, a wonderful curriculum that I recommend everyone to check out at cellocamp.com. It covers all the major entrepreneurial
of launching a Web 3 venture and there's a lot of niche topics that are unique to the space. So we have wonderful workshops from organizations like IDO, Coinbase Cloud, Tatum, Florey Venture. I can mention a lot of
great companies here and we are just trying to provide all the necessary tools for anyone that you're thinking about building a web 3 project. You shouldn't do it alone, you should do it with the support of the community, the community is very inviting, very welcoming and we are very proud to be a part of that.
Thank you, Alon. And so other than the the obvious social support and community that you get, what what does that process look like and what kind of projects are eligible for cello camp? Wonderful question and a guy is
feel free to chime in. Some of the speakers here are also alumni of cello camp so feel free to chime in. So basically we are looking at teams at any stage
But we are more focused on the earlier stages obviously and so I would say that like the minimum requirement is to have an idea and a team that can execute this idea and when I say team it can sometimes be
be one person, but that person has to have all the skills necessary to actually bring in MVP to life. So we want to have on the program people that can actually absorb the content. The program includes the go to
market the user research, the project design, the product design as well as actually building the product, building the MVP. So we need a team that is well-rounded, that has the business aspects, the technology aspects in it.
I think that also more advanced projects can enjoy cello camp. If they just want to explore a product line built and integrated on cello, I think camp can also really
provide great support and I think one of the advantages is that you get to know other builders in the ecosystem and to work on your problem or on your project to get her with them and from our past experience it's probably
Like people that went through the program really get assimilated very nicely and also have the right connections in the ecosystem to follow their project through.
Incredible. Thank you. Yeah, we've we've definitely this is a conversation for for later probably but we've got quite a few early stage projects in our community that are you know definitely gonna Want to benefit from from cello camp so we're excited to share that as as we move forward let's um
Let's go ahead and go back to to cello blockchain and Jason I'm very curious we talked a little bit about the carbon negativity of cello I'm very you know, I'm super interested in that and I would like to hear a little bit more about what that means and
and how difficult that has been to execute? Yeah, absolutely. So one of the big features that Salol proudly talks about is around carbon negativity. And what that is is by means of
We're taking initiatives both on chain and off chain to essentially offset a lot of the negative adverse impact that blockchain scan had. So by virtue of firstly being a proof of state network, we definitely have a lot of impact like proof of state network.
take very early on and have maintained our stance around it. Aside from this, we also have carbon offsets that are part of our reserve as well that allow for more such initiatives to take place and we're more than
thinking about other other assets as well that are coming forth. We're also implementing a lot of initiatives to push for more digital assets at the intersection of climate that allow for more regenerative future, that means
of that. And aside from this, we also at a protocol layer have something along the lines of a carbon offset purchase mechanism that is implemented and every block that allows for offsets to do this concept of offset
setting to happen every single time. And even as an organization, we try to, the organizations in the solar ecosystem try to try to maintain a pretty neutral stance towards travel, et cetera, to ensure that we minimize our carbon
as much as possible. And that's an attempt, of course. And we do want to keep our pursuits going. And we are also like there's a calculator of sorts that you can access that has this documented that
We've crossed 83,000 tons at this point in time in terms of carbon offsets that we've officially saved. Aside from this in terms of off-chain initiatives, one interesting thing to point out, we also had a point in time where we
trees, two offset carbon as a means essentially to keep the blockchain in Delhi carbon negative. And in a way fostering that regenerative future that we want for all of our community.
That's phenomenal. Thank you. I'm a little bit curious about when a new block is created. What is actually happening behind the scenes in terms of the purchasing of the offsets? Is there something, you know, a smart contract executes on some marketplace? I'm really not exactly sure how that
how that's going to go down and how that's what the uptime has been like for the those transactions. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So how it works is basically at every epoch, there is a certain fraction of the
like the holder rewards as we like to call it, that is dedicated towards what is called the Carbon Offsetting Fund. And the Carbon Offsetting Fund is basically a carbon offsetting partner or a series of partners that receive this in order to go ahead and plant trees.
And this happens in every epoch. Currently initially we plan to be about 0.1%. And currently we've adjusted the epoch reward multipliers and hope to keep that going as much as possible and make that more and more effective.
this carbon offsetting fund if you continue to grow that with every block. What we believe is in due time as things start to get better and like more things happen, you're able to basically build a regenerative future for every transaction that happens there by making it quite quite
positive for the environment. And one of the interesting project to point out, we have a project called Fly Wallet, which allows you to purchase flight tickets using cello assets, which is quite interesting as well, that you could purchase flight tickets and also do that in a pretty carbon negative way.
Also, I want to give a shout out to Marko who just joined as a speaker. He's also building something really, really cool for the be-generative future. You should definitely speak with him as well about ImpactMarket, which is a project I'm super excited about as well.
Yeah, thank you, Jason. Marco would love to hear welcome first of all, but would love to hear a little bit about what what you're building. Hey everyone, yeah, happy to be here. It was just very random that I saw it is happening and I just joined it. Yeah, so we are not so much on the
planet size. I like to look at the revised space as planet and people. We are more on the people's side. So we build what we call a human empowerment protocol to support the most vulnerable communities around the world. We are in around
The first thing that we started to provide is a conditional basic income in places like refugee camps, Brazilian favelas, farmers, indigenous communities. We are in countries like Afghanistan, Togo, Mali even as well, Brazil, India.
all over the place, also in Ukraine because of the war. And it allows that, for example, a local charity can submit a request to the Dow asking to receive, for example, a English-Nobody's income of, let's say, 50 cents or $1.00.
a day and then they took a hold of vote to approve it and then they can add beneficiaries usually like people living in a below poverty line or extra in poverty that they can claim on a haggle on a basis some $celadolars to spend in whatever they want so it's unconditional they can buy whatever
they want and then we can look at all the data like transactions, see the volume and see like what's the economic development happening in each community besides that so we see VI as a first step then now we are doing also access to micro credits can be
and collateralized, or collateralized, also collective savings and expanding to have more financial services. Hopefully in the future we can kind of bring both things like the planets and the people, like for example farmers that have like a bunch of trees
they are doing good for the planet that can eventually get access to carbon credits and for example use the Metacolateral from macron credits in order to keep expanding buying seeds keep expanding like the good they do for the planets at the same time getting access to additional income even if they are and bankers or
or don't have additional access to financial services and bringing both things together. So in a kind of a loop that helping the planet, helping the communities, that then they can do more good for the planet and so on. So yeah, that's basically what we have been doing, supporting now.
almost 50,000 people. We are the most use the map on cello so far. I hope we keep being on that place. But yeah, that's basically on a summary that's what we've been doing.
Very cool. Thank you for sharing all that, Marco. Speaking of DApps, we're curious a little bit more about the ecosystem and the future of the ecosystem. Jason, can you speak a little bit on
you know what kind of daps what kind of projects you're hoping to see in the coming year. Joe before we jump into there I want to ask a question to Simon here for him. Simon checked her background cargo looks amazing.
amazing, very, very cool. Seems like you're a super talented team. From your angle, with probably a lot of different options and chains, what really hit home for Sello for you and why did you guys decide to build there?
Oh, firstly, thank you for the question. Yes, it is an interesting question. Why is cello? Simply because when you're putting assets on chain, you want to be able to have access to liquidity and different types of
financial primitives and these are all basically derived from the assets that would exist on a specific chain in the first place. Now our thoughts are that seller would be or is the place where most of the most diverse
diverse types of assets that are being created at the moment. If you just look at carbon credits or plastics that get cleaned out of the oceans and all of these different types of assets, if you talk to any ordinary investor, they're all quite lost when they look
Okay, what is this? I'm investing in this and I get a return and it's quite confusing but with tokenization and what we provide, we allow these illiquid tokens to become liquid with certain crypto economics, we're enabling
new ways of interacting with these credits, making them far more digestible. And so people can actually track performance, they can segregate segment these classes across these different assets and basically get
get a better understanding of what they are investing in. Because Cello with the diverse approach to the community growth in multiple countries and the projects that
do support, I think with that we'll get the most interesting map of different types of assets to create liquidity instruments with. Okay, so to recap it's like the fundamental principle of why sell
was huge amount of diversification and geographical region of users, a large amount of diversification of potential assets that can be tokenized. And so basically from your guys standpoint, you're like, "Okay, I'm going to go to SELLO because across all of these different countries and all these different asset classes,
There's going to be huge wide variety of things that we can do and because sell already has kind of like that distribution network and engagement. And the difference as well. It's not just a bolt onto the rollout. They've been consistent with this approach since inception. Even from the fact
that is a mobile phone. When we were in the cello cabin, by the way, hello, along, good to see you again. We were always wondering, okay, how do we bring the mobile phone into this? But the penny sort of dropped later on when it's not just about the
mobile phone, but it's about every device around that will be capturing data tokens potentially that are valuable. It's that kind of idea that allows for this greater diversification of access
that may be valuable, or at least the fact that something's been captured, it's the market that decides if it's valuable. And with Cello taking this approach, even with the mobile, it is purely about people taking control of their
the wealth and being able to generate it themselves. And then of course having the relationship with the planet we are living on. Is it your concept or idea or approach that every asset in the world that has any value should be tokenized? I'm curious on this.
So I would say I think everything can be tokenized. However, I'm not talking about the financialization of everything because it's down to a community or it's down to the world to decide whether or not it has
value but capturing it all the same is still valuable because it can be valuable to you as an individual. It could be anything from realizing how many steps I take to go here there
everywhere and getting some kind of feedback for myself. I can evolve as a person to understand some kind of movements there. But this can also be valuable in a different context. So whilst I would say yes,
Everything should be tokenized, it could be tokenized and there is potential value in that. I'm not into the financialization of everything. These are two very different things that I think lots of people get confused about.
So you're saying, wait, you don't want a picture of your child being born to be financialized and high-frequency traded? It's a joke. No, that's a really cool concept. Everything can be tokenized. It doesn't mean that it should be tokenized.
And it may be it can be tokenized and should be tokenized depending upon the value of the individual but not everything should be financialized That's I think that's a very interesting Outlook. Thank you for that. Sorry. Sorry Joe. I wanted to real I wanted to you know, I dive a little bit more in on cargo cargo looks really rad by the way
Thank you.
Oh, thanks to both of you. That's a really cool distinction that you brought up Simon hadn't really Brian and I have dived in pretty deep on tokenization and we haven't really separated the two. So that's that's really neat and compelling. Thank you. Yeah, back to
back to cello blockchain, what in, you know, in its ecosystem. And this is kind of a question for everybody, not just Jason and, and a law necessarily, but, you know, what else would you guys like to see in the cello ecosystem?
Yeah, so maybe I'll start and people can join in. So first of all, inside of FreeFi, FreeFi regenerative finance is a very big topic and there are a lot of, it's a very big topic that is
just emerging in the blockchain space and Cello is definitely leading this space. So there's a lot of subdomains inside the refice. So refice goals is to create a financial system that not only doesn't harm nature
and communities, but actually contributes to the restoration of them and to topics like climate, like renewable energy, carbon credits that were mentioned here. So there's a lot of room for innovation in
all the categories that are inside Refin, in particular in DMRVs, DMRVs are, or DMRV in general is the reporting and the measurement of the actual offsets of organizations, and I think to
to bring this data on chain, can really unlock a lot of solutions and to really make sure that open ledgers, DLTs can contribute to this very important
topic and also payments. I'm very, very excited on payments and CBDC, central bank digital currencies and also a lot of innovation can be unlocked there. Think about streaming money, think about
getting your salary instead of a month or two weeks to get it every hour every day, think about money that can donate to important causes and I'm sure that Marco can elaborate on that. Imagine being
able to pay multiple parties at the same time reporting of tax reporting of annual reports do all these things automatically. So I think there is a lot of innovation that can be unlocked on these two particular topics, but there are also so many other things like
zero-knowledge proofs that can really help us with privacy issues that I think it's also a very important topic to address. Yeah, a lot of things there, but I want to leave the stage also for others to share their thoughts.
The first thing that I'm really excited about is that I'm more broadly
a lot of opportunity to getting a lot of interesting use cases on board. In addition to that, I think there's a lot of really cool real world use cases that Salo has often strived very deeply to with our partners.
things that I'm super excited about. Crowdfunding is another one and then just like revotances and payments across the board. But yeah, wonder if other folks have anything that comes to mind.
I do have a comment on that Jason I am I totally agree with you about about the gaming I think it'd be really cool to Know that you are making a positive impact on the planet while you're playing video games as weird as that might seem
sound to somebody in, you know, in early 2023 here that could and hopefully is the future. And I don't know if you guys have heard of there, there's a browser, you know, instead of using Google or duck.go, you can use a browser called, I think it's Ecosia and they actually
plant trees as you browse. So if you, you know, just like in Brave where you get token for browsing. So there I think the ad revenue goes towards planting trees. So cool concept there, but pretty similar idea if you're, you know, if your video game is running
on the, you know, on the cello blockchain, then of course you're going to be making a positive net impact. So very, very cool. Also an agreement that, you know, gaming is gaming would be a great addition to the ecosystem at large.
Yeah, definitely I've got that.
Marco Simon, you guys have any thoughts on maybe some other verticals, other types of dabs that you think the ecosystem is still kind of missing and things you're hoping to see in the coming future?
I've actually been very interested in talent protocol and just what is possible in people's IP that they produce, being connected to companies,
ways of tracking the person's value in themselves, HR is terribly broken, of short, Talon protocol probably talked more about what they are doing, but it's a very difficult thing to
to master and to bring about the person's wage. What is the person, what are you worth? What is your hourly rate? Figuring that out fairly without all of the awkwardness of an employer, an employee, and your
your worth and your livelihood. I think this is something that is a very big issue for obviously humanity and this is something that can be really great to resolve but I'm sure talent protocol would have more to talk about that.
Yeah, that is fascinating. Would really love to hear a little bit more about how they're approaching that problem. If any buddy's got any insights on that, would love to hear that.
I think Pedro had a hub of real quick.
Do you have a specific answer for how Pedro is solving it with talent protocol on that?
I've just been following the project, but they and I understand they're doing things through HR and a person and tracking the person throughout their work history, but
No idea what they're doing specifically to fix that But my view is that this is a this is a very real issue for people who who work and then being available for work being able to price your work and
And all of the shenanigans that can also exist in the workplace around that. I think with greater transparency we can be, well, you can actually enjoy work without having to work for money,
you can be working for your work for a change instead of chasing something because it pays more because you've got to cover something. Just eliminating that information asymmetry which exists
Thank you Simon. Yeah, that's I'm very very interested in and learning more about that. Okay, awesome guys. Well, we're we're coming up on time here is is anybody you know are there any questions that that you were hoping to answer that we that we did not discuss.
So while I know what off-growth is up to further benefit of the solo community that might be tuning in, if you could give a brief on what off-growth is and what you're currently up to, maybe the big problems that you're
you're dealing with right now, that would be really awesome. Yeah, absolutely. So at Alfred Growth, we wear mini hats, but right now the focus has been pretty much helping cool teams find the next chain to build on and help
helping cool ecosystems find the next cool projects to join their ecosystem. So we're kind of connecting, connecting exciting and innovating teams in the blockchain space. So right now you
You asked the problems and what we're facing for the coming year. We're super excited about what is to come this year. We've got some really cool stuff in the pipeline, some really cool teams.
that we're helping and working with some need ecosystems. And so, you know, definitely hope into to help kind of share some of some of the deal flow and some of the cool projects and introduce them to what SELO is offering.
That's awesome. Super cool. Maybe I'll because Pedro is not here regarding the question on talent protocol. So talent protocol is in the vertical of social tokens. So they provide means for people to
to create social networks around themselves, around their own careers and to provide the tools via NFTs and tokens to create a community around your own career and to have other people involved.
very interesting and very cool so definitely check out Talent Protocol also and it's been a pleasure to speak with you guys and there's a lot of room for innovation and I also want to
We are launching our upcoming batch of cello camp on April and applications are now open. So I would love to connect with anyone that has a project idea. You can head to cello camp dot com to learn more and
Thank you so much for having us. Absolutely. I was curious how many projects are you guys looking to have for this next round of Selecum? Yes, so we receive around 700
applications a year and then for each batch we usually onboard 30 teams around 30 teams. So do apply and we also have other offerings we are now launching
a program called the startup pathway that is actually can like I do it yourself program where we provide resources that entrepreneurs can review and learn from their own
time. So yeah, a lot of really, really exciting things are happening at this cello camp. So again, don't hesitate to reach out. Absolutely will. Yeah, we actually just as of last week we just hit 800 unique projects that have applied for
a grant on AlphaGhost's platform. So definitely gonna reach out to you after this call and we can kind of put our heads together and see what types of projects you're looking for. So cool. But yeah, on that note, Rebecca Bryan, if you guys don't have any other questions,
I'm like really from the boat cello. I meet a bunch of founders here in Miami, South Florida building climate changing projects and also a bunch of projects are doing a lot of
We have lots of farms and fruits and I know lots of projects building their web 3 versions of it on cello. So thank you guys for, you know, existing as a chain to give power to this communities.
Yeah, it is really cool stuff. Where is the best place for us to keep up with Sela and what you guys are doing? Yeah, so I think subscribing to our newsletter and following us on Twitter would be
probably be the best two places to hear back on cool stuff that's happening. Things I'm across excited for the rest of the year and probably most immediate is like our presence at Eiff Denver and a couple of the other conferences. Our founders
to be present all across. So if you want to plug in, definitely go give us a shout out on Telegram or on the forum and we would be more than happy to connect with you, IRL as well at any of these like conferences like about them.
would absolutely love to. Yeah. I'm happy to buy anybody a coffee out there. That'd be a great time. Are you guys having any parties? Any side events?
Yeah, yeah, probably. I don't think we've, we've launched it, but I'll send out a link that you could have you, you tweet that for your community to some more
important be part of it as well. Absolutely. Yeah. Guys, I think that I actually just see that you're co-hosting a small summit at it then we're with near.
Yes, yes, we have the summit that's right I was thinking specifically about the after party, but yes summit we're go hosting with two-can protocol and and a couple of other folks across the board talk carbon etc and it's quite exciting
I think I strongly recommend if you're excited about or if any projects are excited about intersection of climate, web 3, and digital assets definitely try and come to this specific summit. I think you'll really like it. Central future is also going to be there.
We'll do Jason a lot Jason Simon. Thank you guys so much for being here and Looking forward to keeping this combo going and seeing the the future of sell-off Thank you very much Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank for having us
Bye guys.

FAQ on AMA with Celo | Twitter Space Recording

What is the mission of Talent Photical?
Talent Photical is on a mission to help the next generation of builders achieve fulfillment and success, especially those builders joining webtree.
What does Cargo do?
Cargo helps wealth management firms or funds exit onto the blockchain or into defi. It's not just about allowing them to trade but also manage strategies.
What is Cello?
Cello is a blockchain platform for financial inclusion that aims to make it easier for people to send, receive, and store money in digital form using blockchain technology.
What is the role of Cello Camp?
Cello Camp is an eight-week virtual acceleration and mentorship program for the Cello ecosystem. They help founders launch and scale their projects on the Cello blockchain.
What is Jason's role at the Cello Foundation?
Jason leads the founder programs at the Cello Foundation, which includes programs that help startups in the ecosystem and building out the platform that supports them.
What is Pedro's role at Talent Photical?
Pedro is a co-founder of Talent Photical, which is a platform that helps the next generation of builders achieve fulfillment and success in webtree.
What kind of assets does Cargo deal with?
Cargo deals with real assets and is about to bring a large sum of these onto the blockchain through a closer deal.
Where is Simon calling from?
Simon is calling from Tokyo.
What is the purpose of Talent Photical's token, 'tal'?
Their native token, 'tal', can be used to stake in other people's careers and they plan to have more use cases for it in future developments.
What is Alonzo's background?
Alonzo's background is in identity management, having worked previously for a company called Gigia before entering the web 3 space. He is now Program Director and Co-Founder of Apprite, which runs Cello Camp.