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AMA with Ecosystem Growth WG
Recorded: July 10, 2025 Duration: 0:41:49Space Recording
Short Summary
The House of Stake's recent discussions reveal a strong commitment to fostering growth within the NEAR ecosystem through structured working groups, strategic objectives, and community engagement initiatives. Key figures from the ecosystem emphasize the importance of collaboration, accountability, and innovative funding mechanisms to drive sustainable development.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hello everyone.
Welcome to our weekly spaces for House of Stake.
Welcome to our weekly spaces for House of Stake.
Today we are kind of covering one of the working groups that have kind of been formed by the
endorsed delegates.
This is actually the third spaces of this series.
We've previously had the economics working group and the governance working group.
And today we're discussing ecosystem, which is led by,
I believe, Finn. And we also have a last minute change because Charlie from Aurora wasn't able
to make it. So we have Charles instead kind of shedding more light into plans and thoughts
that the working group is having. So maybe we could start with
quick intros. I could very briefly introduce myself. I'm Mr. Potato. I'm pretty sure everyone
joining this space knows who I am. But since it's being recorded, just to kind of let folks know that
I'm part of the Nier community squad
where we are trying to support as many ecosystem nodes on Nier and trying to kind of bridge
the gap in terms of communication.
Yeah, we'd love to hear from Finn and then from Charles before we can dive into the working
group.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for setting this all up, Mr. Potato. You guys can hear me correct?
Yeah, you're good.
Cool.
Yeah, maybe just a quick little intro on myself.
My name is Finn.
I'm with Areda, and we work with foundations and DAOs
in governance and really try and solve
some of the nitty grgritty problems of capital allocation
and ecosystem growth. So I've worked with a handful of different ecosystems now. Myself,
personally, I come from a finance background and actually got involved with NEAR, I think,
in the end of 2023. So it's been good to have been rolling up my sleeves as an endorsed delegate
for House of Stake.
I'm excited to jump into some of the topics today.
Yeah, and Charles here.
Thanks for including me on this space.
I've been building on NIR for the last three years, building and facilitating developer tools as part of Pagoda and trying to drive for developer tools and as part of Pagoda
and trying to drive for developer productivity
and supporting founders and now building
as a founder myself on NIR.
So helping to bring this perspective
and really to help usher forward House of Stake
and promote NIR protocol and its growth
and its ability to support founders
in the best way that we can.
Awesome.
Yeah, maybe to get things started,
we could just briefly describe
what the ecosystem working group is actually tasked to do.
So maybe a description of what's the goal of the working group
as well as maybe potential team members,
like who are the folks within the endorsed
delegates that are kind of spearheading this initiative?
For sure.
Yeah, I'm happy to take that.
So basically how these different working groups came about is in one of the very first sessions
with all of the endorsed delegates before we had set up the working groups.
before we had set up the working groups,
we jumped on a session and basically split down tackling governance
and tackling sort of priorities for NIR into four main pillars.
Those are obviously ecosystem growth, treasury management,
economic security, and you've had, I think,
now two of those working groups come discuss here.
And then we spun those into their working groups.
So Charles and I are a part of the Ecosystem Growth Working Group.
Obviously, I want to shout out a few of the other folks on the team.
I think Charlie, you've already mentioned at the top, from Aurora.
The NIR Week team is also involved.
And Slime, who I saw is actually doing a NIR protocol AMA, or he's live on Nier at the moment as well.
So you can see we're sort of all over,
as well as Shoji and Takeshi from Tane.
Yeah, Charles and then Cameron Dennis,
who seems very prolific in the Nier ecosystem,
is also involved as well.
So I'm not sure if I missed anyone there.
In terms of objectives, yeah, like I said,
there's sort of four key pillars for the main sort of things
to be tackled for the Nier ecosystem
and what House of Stakes wants to set out to achieve ecosystem growth.
So we can get into some more of the details
of what that looks like in specifics,
but just wanting to make sure the experience of people building
on Nier is pleasant and world-class,
and then making sure the downstream outcomes are that the NIR ecosystem is building successfully, competitively, and sustainably for the future.
Great. I think, yeah, I definitely see this as one of the stronger working groups in terms
Great.
of reviving the ecosystem. Obviously, the ecosystem is at a critical point where it
needs more growth. And I think house of stake through this working group can kind of play an important role.
I would kind of wanted to ask on, so this working group has been probably around for a bit over two months, more or less. But yeah, I kind of wanted to get an idea of what are the things
you've been working on since inception, whether it's identifying key areas of improvement in the ecosystem
or trying to figure out coordination and seeing how to go about from there.
Just want to get the thought process of how are you aiming to tackle
some of these ecosystem issues.
Yeah, I'm happy to jump in here first.
I think this might be a long-winded answer, so forgive me in advance.
But in our first ecosystem growth working group meeting, we were really brainstorming.
And there was a whole bunch of ideas that sort of were floated and things that people in the group,
all the participants really wanted to get on and tackle in terms of progressing ecosystem
growth.
And we pretty quickly realized that we needed some sort of way of filtering through which
initiatives we're going to tackle first and how to prioritize these.
So one of the outcomes of that first session was to start thinking about the objectives
for the working group and then KPIs.
Actually, this is something that we've been working on,
like you mentioned, over the past month or so.
And as of the past week prior to ETC,
it's actually finalized.
So pretty excited to be able to share it on this call
and get the community's feedback
and see how people are feeling about it. But I'll just run through them really briefly. If you have any
specific questions on like what I'm saying, feel free to just jump in or raise your hand.
And I'd love to get that feedback. But so the way we see it, we have three overarching themes.
Those are adoption and usage, liquidity and economic economic activity and then the third is a bit more of a catch-all focused on developer and
ecosystem growth within each of these themes we have a single guiding sentence
or strategic objective if you will and then within those strategic objectives
so one layer further is the specific KPIs for those themes and objectives.
And this is really where we set the metrics.
We put measurable outcomes so that when we're looking back down the line, we can say, did
we actually achieve these goals?
And what is the proof in the pudding that these goals were achieved?
And not just saying, yeah, we said we were going to do X, YZ and yeah, we're claiming it's done.
So let me run through them really quickly.
And again, feel free to jump in if you have any questions.
So the first theme is adoption and usage.
This is the strategic objective here is to drive sustained user adoption and engagement with near integrated applications.
with near integrated applications.
So for the KPIs here,
we're looking at increasing net new user inflows,
sustained application usage,
and 30-day user retention
across near integrated applications.
And the second one would be
growing the total number of live client applications
with near technology integrated
as a first-class citizen.
So really wanting to take the unique value props
of near tech and making sure those are being built out, making sure those are being used in meaningful ways.
And we think that those KPIs are ways that we can track that, such as it's not really gamified.
And we can really prove out that interesting things are being built on Near and used on Near.
The second is liquidity and economic activity.
We can kind of breeze through this one.
It's a little bit more straightforward,
but obviously crucial for any ecosystem really is.
The strategic objective here is increasing on chain liquidity
and transaction volume across the near ecosystem.
And the KPIs are simply increasing TVL first
and second growing monthly net inflows.
And then we had thought about sort of total monthly net inflows and also segmenting down
by vertical.
So looking at AI, Intense, DeFi, whatever that may be.
The third and final theme is developer and ecosystem growth.
So like I mentioned, this is a little bit more of a catch-all.
There were some things that we really wanted to include,
and we thought that were important to not sort of exclude from these themes
and from these objectives.
And so the strategic objective here is enable developers to build, launch,
and scale high-quality applications by strengthening technical infrastructure,
integrations, and ecosystem support.
And the KPIs here are growing the number of quality cohort projects
progressing from MVP to public launch
and increasing the quarter-over-quarter growth of new quality cohort projects
launched on mainnet by ecosystem programs.
So one of the distinctions we made here,
and these two KPIs are ones that we discussed ad nauseum in the working group,
was basically how do we add the elements of quality in here while still tracking that there is stuff being done at a significant scale
and we're not just sort of king making or picking a few projects that we like.
So yeah, I appreciate that's a lot for me.
Charles, I don't know if you have anything you wanted
to add to the KPIs or if there's any questions
that came out of that.
Otherwise I can pass the torch.
Yeah, just to kind of through line
to all of the items mentioned there in those KPIs
and the objectives and action items coming
from the other working groups is the overall theme
is to create tighter feedback loops
between accountability on these initiatives
that we've identified from within the community
and across the working groups that are important
to accelerating these metrics for growth, adoption,
and success with builders on your tightening feedback loops
on data that we're using to to hold
ourselves accountable against accomplishing these things and the programs that we have to support
builders so there's some existing programs uh right now near protocol rewards and these different like
cohorts and ways that we help move developers through from progressing from hackathons to
building out their projects scanning adoption being adoption, being rewarded, getting funded,
and kind of advancing and graduating projects
through these steps from developer, hacker developer,
founder, and partner.
I think the through line here for all these working groups
is like accountability and tightening the feedback loops
and making sure all of these different tools
that we currently have and the new ones that we're proposing
are functioning as well as they could be for the benefit of the community.
Yeah, I think from the folks I've spoken to, pretty much everyone aligns on these key objectives.
I just was wondering, like, is there... So we've spoken to other working groups in the uh in in the previous
weeks where does someone have uh similar objectives of uh which kind of makes me think that there is
a bit of overlap between like multiple working groups um how are you planning to kind of coordinate
with all of the with all of these working groups to make sure like there is better alignment to kind of push things forward in the same direction?
Yeah, I think that's a great question and probably a symptom of like a positive symptom in that we're all pulling ultimately in the same direction.
And these working groups aren't intended to sort of be siloed where everyone's kind of doing their own thing.
And the net outcome is not positive for NIR as a whole.
So I think that's a great question.
Actually, Klaus, I see, is jumping to this space now.
And he's already been a great resource to sort of connect the dots because not any one person can sort of see everything going on in all the ecosystem working groups, all the working
groups rather. And so Klaus has been super helpful, I think, to say, you know, I've seen XYZ going on
in the governance working group. How does that sort of, how does that play into what you guys
are talking about here or this week's meeting? So yeah, already a big shout out to Klaus for
helping us out there. I think as well, it's probably just like Charles mentioned,
just being tighter with the feedback loops.
It's probably an imperative now soon
to sort of have more regular sessions
amongst the full group.
But yeah, I think that's a fair question.
And I think as we sort of start to put rubber to the road
where there's proposals coming out
and actually these initiatives are being
actioned, it'll be even more important to make sure that everyone's aligned. So it's a good
question. Yeah, I think, based on like, my involvement or like, observation from previous
governance initiatives, like, when it comes to kind of reviewing proposals, there probably should be thinking between like all of these working groups to
kind of assess them jointly to some extent.
Obviously everyone can have their own interpretation,
whether it aligns or it's a good fit for it to be approved in line with like
the constitution, the mission vision values,
but better coordination would surely help in this regard.
And the good thing is you mentioned like some of the contributors
for this working group,
they're also part in other working groups as well.
So that kind of helps as well in making sure like everyone
is aware of what's happening. And obviously you have Clause as a facilitator to kind of helps as well in making sure like everyone is aware of what's happening.
And obviously you have Claws as a facilitator to kind of make sure everything is running as smoothly as possible, which is a great thing to have.
I now want to move on to like specific initiatives that the working group might have in mind.
So we're probably like a few weeks away from House
of State going live. Earlier today, we announced the front end, which has been launched in alpha
version. Kent from Agora had shared this update on the forum yesterday. So you folks in the
community are already able to kind of get a feel of what the front end will look like.
But yeah, just kind of curious on any specific initiatives that your working group specifically is looking to kind of address as and when House of State goes live.
Charles, do you maybe want to jump in on some of the things discussed in CANDS?
Sure. Kind of speaking across all of the different working groups, one of the...
We had a period where we broke out into our separate groups and really kind of dug into
bringing timelines to the items that we've talked about doing and the current things that are in progress right now. government's governance frameworks for the group during this month also during this month finalizing the budget that we're going to use to support liquidity and other incentives for the next six months working on gathering data that we
need to track and hold ourselves accountable to the KPIs that we have
across our growth working group there are some existing data dashboards
that we're aggregating across Nier Foundation and Nier Dev.
And then also James put together this great document
kind of outlining all the different sources that we have
as well to build the new dashboards that we need
to track the metrics that we have.
And then there's a couple other around governance framework that I don't want to speak to.
I don't have as much detail from the other groups as well.
But yeah, most of the time that we spent in CANS and our working group was coming up with
specific things related to the budget, how we want to use those for economic incentives
and liquidity and different categories there.
I don't have the list on hand of how we broke that down into these prioritized sections
of areas for funding for the budget.
And that was one of the main things we took away from the breakout session there was getting
closer to having this budget finalized and then targeting finalizing that this month
to get approved so that we could then move forward with executing on some of the different ideas for prioritizing the use of
those funds to move our KPIs. Any questions on any piece of that? Maybe worth digging into more
detail if I can. Yeah, just kind of curious. So if I understood correctly, the working group is kind of putting out a budget to then work on these initiatives when House of State goes live, right?
Yes, that's right. It's the budget for the overall House of State, including funding incentives for this funding operations for our working group okay oh okay
okay so it's the it's getting a budget approved for the entire house of stake program yes okay
um yeah that's good to know i've also pinned um one of your threads which came out about an hour ago where you've kind of broken down
some of the some of your insights whilst you were whilst you were at Khan and it addresses
like many different things not only specific to his working group which I think is is of
interesting for folks to kind of know perspectives.
But yeah, maybe if you just want to like summarize what's on there for folks who are on.
Yeah, I, and these meetings like this where you're working in person and there's a lot going on, it can be hard to like synthesize and make actionable and take things
out of.
So, I tried to basically record everything that we're doing and summarize this and capture
like action items and like main takeaways across each of the working groups and all
the conversations that were had there.
And I'll be sharing those across different threads.
For anyone who was there in those working groups, you see something that would be helpful to elaborate on, like, let's do that.
I missed up some of the words there that was just in the note taking or like some of the categories.
But I basically tried to pull out from the breakout period that we did where each working group was in their own space for about a half an hour or an hour or so.
space for about a half an hour or an hour or so. And then coming back together and sharing the
decisions that we made regarding timelines for the items that have been in process for a while,
what are the next steps to move those forward, and then how can we prepare to kind of kick things
off when the Agora UI and like the platform and everything has gone live. So the thread that I
posted today kind of goes across tooling and infrastructure where, and this is also
from our ecosystem working group where we're gathering perspectives for developers building
on here and trying to help come up with an updated list of areas where we need to improve or from
developer tooling and infrastructure to what support developers need to see where we might be able to
reduce any duplication of efforts that are going
on across other ecosystem groups. And also the house of stake in general, like what this
experiment that we're doing on decentralized governance and helping to decentralize control
of the treasury funds are using to promote this ecosystem. What is the long term vision
here? And for someone was communicating, we're talking about
this as a group that, you know, really the proposal is move this forward. And ideally,
this is completely decentralized. And what's currently centralizing in the near foundation
slowly moves to the house of stake over time, such that house of stake is control of all of
these things. And this actually came up as we were discussing the budget and people were suggesting
different things that should be owned by house of stake and then brought a question to mind of,
what are we, where are we going for here? What's the overall vision? And the vision really is for
decentralized control of all of the treasury, such that the community has direct ownership of
the funds that are used to facilitate governance and of the ecosystem, promotion of the ecosystem.
governance and of the ecosystem, promotion of the ecosystem.
And talked a little bit about the transition there.
There's been a couple of departments and platforms and tools that the area that NEAR Foundation
owns that are being prioritized, are being moved to the house of stake.
I'm going blank on which one of those right now, but some of those items that when the
budget is ready to be shared, you can see that these are listed as items prioritized
there.
And going into data and governance foundations, we had a meeting with a few other groups that
presented their L2B shared information from their experience facilitating decentralized
governance on different protocols and what we could learn from there.
And this was good, just helpful input
as we're working through building out this Agora UI
and looking into prioritizing what type of AI agents
and other optimizations do we need to build
to make it easier for people to create proposals,
to create proposals that have all of the information needed such that they can go through screening and really speed up what could otherwise be slow bureaucratic processes.
Yeah, those are kind of the main items we went through and shared that that's mentioned on the thread there.
I'll organize these notes a bit more and share more detail from other conversations over the next week.
Yeah, the thread does mention like a part one, so I'm assuming there will be like subsequent
threads kind of breaking down thoughts and ideas that you've gathered at Con. There's a few
questions we've got through the forum which we put out when announcing
the spaces.
I'll pick a couple of them.
There's a few more, but I think some of them are not very relevant to the topic of today's
spaces. examples on successful Web3 governance initiatives, like
which governance initiatives are we looking as
role models for house-of-stake, if there even is one, or
which aspects of certain governance frameworks,
either in Web3 or elsewhere,
can we kind of get inspiration from
when shaping houses take?
That would be one of the questions.
Yeah, I'm happy to jump on.
Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, I'll just speak to, I think,
not looking necessarily at like,
what governance mechanisms, but I think an interesting perspective here is looking at like ecosystem growth and capital allocation and sort of refining it a little bit more to the scope of this AMA.
for how we're thinking about any ecosystem growth initiative
and any capital allocation initiative
coming out of this near house of stake working group
is how can we retain the value within the ecosystem?
And this is something that I guess
has been talked about quite a bit now
with traditional grant programs
and sort of one of the pitfalls
of other capital allocations initiatives in other DAOs and also in with the
NDC in the past is distributing grants and distributing money and not having any sort of
oversight or any sort of mechanism for making sure that that value doesn't just leave the ecosystem
or the thing that gets built at the end is actually a sort of positive sum for some facet of NIR that we're looking to
promote. So I think there's many interesting mechanisms that you can use here. I don't think
I can point to sort of any ecosystems in particular outside of NIR that I want to sort of be shouting
out as models here, but like grant programs that give NIR some ownership
of how the performance of that grantee does
or some other ways of cycling the value
within the ecosystem.
Yeah, I think that's just top of mind.
Charles, I didn't mean to cut you off.
Yeah, I was just gonna share that one,
some interesting insight that I found
when L2Beat was sharing from their experience
in facilitating governance on other ecosystems
is that there's not going to be a silver bullet.
You have ecosystems that have launched
with a lot of structure, which have slowed things down
and not enough structure.
These different ecosystems are kind of trending towards a hybrid model and slowly evolving
and just gathering data to improve metrics such as delegate participation, the number
of votes, amount of time that it takes for proposals to move through different stages
and evaluating and improving continuously.
And when it comes to leveraging AI in governance,
that it's promising in terms of simulating feedback
and getting faster signal and smarter proposal,
but human judgment is still critically important.
There's prompt bias there.
And so there's prompt bias there and so there's uh helpful information
especially from l2 beats and the gauntlet teams that that was shared i think can can get us on
a strong start to beginning to iterate towards something but it's going to be an evolving process
yeah i agree which is why i kind of uh mentioned that there i i don't i haven't come across
anything that is um very similar to house at stake which is why like it's probably getting
inspirations from like small uh bits and pieces from different places. Obviously, there's good learnings from other ecosystems,
and maybe folks like Gauntlet or L2Beat have enough insight,
as well as the Aretha team,
which is kind of active across multiple governance ecosystems.
They have knowledge of best practices
and things we should kind of avoid falling into.
The other question is more of a broad one, but might be relevant to the NIR ecosystem as a whole,
and that is around the regional communities. So NIR is pretty much a global community at this point.
You have very strong communities in different pockets of the world.
A few I can mention are Korea, Vietnam, India, Ukraine, Russia, obviously, because the co-founders are from there, as well as some pockets in the US.
are from there, as well as some pockets in the US.
Just kind of wanted to get your thoughts on if there have been any plans on focus on
regional expansion and how does the working group intend to support that if they are?
Yeah, it's nothing we've really discussed at length.
Like I mentioned in that first meeting where we were throwing out ideas, those sort of
regional hubs were suggested as well.
So it's sort of on this long list, which now that we have our KPIs and strategic objectives
in place, we'll look to sort of prioritize it and fill things into
spots in terms of which stuff we tackle first.
Maybe I can just say quickly, I think these grassroots initiatives are always very important.
I think like IRL events and having communities not just existing online, but also in person.
I wasn't in ECC this year, but all the feedback that I've heard from the workshop was,
it's very positive.
And the amount of stuff that you can sort of get done
with a room of people together is, yeah,
leaps and bounds beyond the things that can come out of,
you know, a handful of different community calls
where it's a little bit more silent.
So, yeah, I would say it's definitely something
that we'll be looking to include in our priorities,
whether it's like a first run item,
probably not, if I'm being honest.
But yeah, building out the grassroots
is an important aspect of the way I see it.
Awesome. Yeah, those were like the only questions that might be relevant for the space today.
As a final point that I have on today's agenda is around future goals for this working group. So I know it's a bit premature because House of Stake is not even alive yet, but I just kind of wanted to get an idea on how do you see the working group maturing and what kind of goals is it setting itself for the medium or long term?
Yeah, I'll take a first crack at this one as well.
crack at this one as well. I think the KPIs and the strategic objectives we set were really
wanting to ground ourselves and the work that we do in this sort of future vision of NIR and of
house of stake that we want to see. So improving across those three themes of developer and
ecosystem growth, of liquidity and economic activity and of adoption of usage. So I mean,
if I were to fast forward now six months,
12 months, I would really hope to see us making
meaningful progress across those goals.
Something that I kind of skipped over maybe
in one of the first initiatives we're tackling,
and I think it's important to sort of take this
from a ground up view, is we're doing
a builder mapping exercise right now. So I'm actually
leading it and I'm on calls with builders throughout NIR who have been here for a number
of years or are newer to NIR and really getting their perspective and just hearing their experience
of what it's like to build on NIR, how things have changed since they've been a part of the
ecosystem, what brought them here in the first place where are their challenges where are their
gaps where what are the strengths and just taking these findings and using that to inform
the work that we do so I think there's been some interesting feedback already and and
things that I'll definitely be bringing to the table for our working group for how we're
prioritizing the first initiatives.
And I wanted to use this space, so also a soft shill.
If there's any builders on this call or if you guys can think of anyone in your networks who would be valuable or has interesting perspectives or experience, please reach out to me.
I would love to jump on a call with you guys and just hear your thoughts.
up on a call with you guys and just hear your thoughts because, yeah, there's a lot of stuff
that goes on in X and in different forums and in different channels, but I think it's
also really productive to just sort of talk it through on a call.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's great to hear.
I think it's important to kind of build this ecosystem map, especially for builders, because Near is a particularly fragmented ecosystem.
Like there's too many ecosystem nodes, so it's worth kind of mapping things out to make sure no one's kind of being left out.
I see Evgeny has his hand up. Evgeny, whenever, yeah, feel free to unmute yourself.
Hey, guys. Thank you for your amazing work. I have a question about budget. I just want to
clarify a little bit confused. So you said you will have a proposal to create budget for your working group.
So my question is, will this budget only for operational costs?
Or you will provide some funding to proposals to any ideas?
Can people submit a proposal to your working group or not?
to submit a proposal to your working group or not?
Yeah, that budget is for the budget I was talking about for all
of House of Stakes effort for think the proposed timeline is
initially the first six months. So that would be to fund
proposals and and to basically further all of the KPIs across
all of the different working groups.
Oh, I see.
Because I turned it off space when you explained it,
thank you for clarification.
Sure.
All right, yeah, I think,
and maybe as a follow-up question
for the upcoming six months.
Is there like a rough breakdown you guys have in mind
in terms of like what verticals do you expect
to kind of funnel this funding to?
So there's many different aspects within the ecosystem.
So there's DeFi, there's AI, there's NFTs, there's payments,
there's like a bunch of different verticals.
Has there been any discussions around how to allocate capital
and funding in these different pockets?
Or is that like still to TBD?
Yeah, I think the short answer is it's TBD, but I can give a little bit more background.
So when we were defining the objectives, obviously implicit in that is whether you want to focus on
any specific verticals. Yeah, for transparency, at first we had sort of oriented our
objectives towards like AI agents and towards intents.
But then since had a long discussion about sort of differentiating ourselves at in-house
of stake and thinking a little bit more on like an impact focused or sort of outcome
focused versus just sort of picking a vertical and sticking with it.
It's TBD to know exactly what that looks like.
I think there's some hard work going on
from the folks at Near Intelligence
and again, shout out to Klaus for organizing this
on the dashboard.
And once we have a dashboard that can level set
where we are across these metrics,
then I think it will be more apparent
of where our focus and attention is needed initially.
Awesome. Yeah, I think at some point, DeFi will have a big role to play because I've been seeing these references around improving liquidity,
even though on the intense side, there's ample amounts of liquidity. There is some kind of insistence by a lot of ecosystem folks to kind of bring more liquidity directly on NIR.
So my assumption is that maybe DeFi will have a significant role to play when it comes to kind of funding initiatives.
initiatives but again this is just purely speculation. But yeah I think it's been
But again, this is just purely speculation.
quite a thorough space. Patata can I ask one more question please? Sure, sure.
So guys you just released your KPIs, I think it's good KPIs, but my question is
How people from community can provide feedback about these KPIs? I mean, do you have do you have any form or should it be discussed with public see public see in the telegram chat?
Yeah, exactly. So this is the first time we've sort of, I mean, soft launched them, I suppose.
Yeah, exactly. So this is the first time we started I mean soft launch them I suppose
We'll definitely look to put them out publicly.
And then, Evgeny, I'm happy to put you in charge, knowing you're a good liaison for the community,
figuring out how we can get some feedback on that.
Obviously, it's super valuable to have that input.
Sounds good. So, yeah, I don't have more questions.
Yeah, I think that's a nice suggestion. There should be some kind of way to share those KPIs just to kind of get high level feedback on if there's anything that's probably been overlooked, which I would like to assume it hasn't.
But yeah, I think it's a good exercise
to kind of have them out in the open at some point.
But yeah, I think to kind of summarize,
it's been a very thorough space.
We've covered pretty much all of the questions
I had in mind.
And yeah, it was great having a chat with both of you and look forward to hosting you again
in the coming weeks and as for everyone in the audience thanks a lot for joining and do tune in
for our regular spaces which we aim to kind of do once a week. So most likely there'll be another one next Thursday,
guests TBD.
And yeah, that's all for now.
Bye-bye.
Thanks.
Bye-bye.
Thank you, guys.
Take care.
