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America Fun Fridays - Community Space V2 LAUNCH?!
Recorded: Jan. 10, 2026 Duration: 1:29:24Space Recording
Short Summary
AmericaFun gears up for its highly anticipated V2 launch, promising innovative features and a strong partnership with Meteora to enhance project visibility and community engagement. The team emphasizes user-centric growth strategies and readiness for fundraising opportunities, positioning itself as a leader in the evolving crypto landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hey, what's up?
I guess this is your mic check.
Kitty and Ogle and Carr and Mabel.
Can you guys hear me okay?
Tumerica.
I did so bad.
So I have like four.
I'm terrible with AirPods, and I always lose one specific AirPods.
So I am doing really good, and I don't have any of them.
So I'm just open micing it tonight.
I'm just going to have tons of reverb, which will be great.
Do you have one ear that's too small or something?
No, I blame my wife, dude.
She also has that many, and then she just listens to one.
I joke with her, and I call her agent on the daily,
just because she has one AirPod in.
That's funny.
So I think she steals my AirPod, and then I'm just all sorts of Fs.
I see. I invited Abby. I don't know if I meant to invite Abby up I was trying to do Vesper do you guys know Abby x3 um I I don't personally know Abby x3 but I mean they can they can chill like
they can they can vibe with us right why not Why not? It's all good.
I just removed them from space.
Oh, there we go.
I just came to the stage.
Cool.
Anyone else?
So if the main AmericaFun account wants to come up as well and co-host, they can.
I don't know if you're managing that, Ogle, because if so, I might bug you on this one.
You know, funny enough, I've never had access to the AmericaFun account.
So I'm definitely not managing that.
You're just big on security, huh?
You just want to make sure that if you're compromised, it can live on.
You know, it's partly that and actually partly because this whole thing was sort of meant to be me giving advice initially to like a CTO team.
And so it was set up accordingly.
And now it's the way it is and yeah, I'm okay with that actually
I'm okay with not having access. I kind of like the idea of I
owning their lanes, you know
No, he he had the access he probably would forget logging in forever
Thank you Mabel. I appreciate your contribution
Of course
You know, I woke up for this.
Did you really?
Seriously, yeah.
Wow, it's quite early over there.
And someone else had something smart to say.
It sounded like what?
I didn't hear it.
I think Kitty was saying something.
But Mabel, I'm sorry that you woke up for this.
I was trying to do a space that was going to be like 2 a.m. for me, and I was like, Vesper, I'll do it.
It's just going to be 2 a.m., so I'm happy that she didn't make me wake up at 2 a.m.
No, no, I was calling.
It's not 2.
It's not too early.
It's okay.
We appreciate you guys being here, whatever time it is, wherever you're at.
Hey, Mabel, the good news is, though, is this space is going to go for about five hours so you'll be
well into the morning if it's late for you wow huge daily exercise I was gonna hike I guess I
don't have to anymore you burn calories when you yap it's not the whole point but this is actually
my workout exactly everyone who's seen me knows that I'm like very, very thin.
And this is what it is.
I just think all the time.
Yeah.
So I'm just kidding.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Mabel's laughing at how not thin I am.
That's funny.
Mabel's got French fries and ice cream.
So we're all good.
So here we are um do we want to wait any more time or are we gonna kind of scooch on and start start talking this up to you mr host um i think we are
good to go so i i just want to make sure again i apologize wife with our airpod difficulties
so i'm i'm just muting off and on here and there so I don't kill your
guys's ears. Greg, welcome to the stage. If I'm missing anyone, so I see Patriot, Valor,
and I see you, Belle. If anyone else wants to come up to speak on stage, I think we can have
up to 10 or 15. I can't remember. Kai, if he's able to, I don't know if you know Kai Ogle. If so,
then he can come up to speak too.
He's requesting.
But we can kind of get started.
I'm really excited about these.
Since our last chat, Ogle, last Friday, I've been buying more AOL, which has been fun.
I'm excited that we're kind of doing this week over week.
It's been good.
That is fun.
So we should do it more often than we already are if it always
gets you excited to the point of buying AOL. I like that. It's a flywheel. That's actually the
AOL flywheel. Everyone's been wondering, what is the AOL flywheel? I'm just really just talk to
Harrow a lot, get him excited and get him buying. Well, it's like it's burning calories while we
talk, right? And it's getting more. Usually when I buy stuff, it goes down though, but things have
started to go up since I started buying. So things are looking up on the bright side. I even bought World Liberty
Finance and it didn't go to zero. So I guess we're going in the right direction.
Congratulations. Well done. Very good.
Maybe if you're okay with Ogle, we have Kitty here. I'm really excited. So Kitty,
I love Meteora. So out of Radium, Jupe, et cetera, Meteora is my my go-to so i'm super excited to have you on stage and stuff
and maybe i was thinking we could kick it off where you kind of introduce the um america fun
and meteor kind of partnership and what you guys are doing together gee america yeah i i love
meteor as well um it's honestly gonna be the home for the best launch pads,
best builders, best projects.
You can quote me on that.
Yeah, like, just a little backstory.
I got to know some of the AOL teams,
specifically Vesper and Carr over Abu Dhabi,
and I sort of walked away thinking how impressive they are and gave
me so much confidence on both your guys' team.
And then, you know, honestly, every space is Ogle does.
I walk away just top blasting AOL wherever it is.
He's a phenomenal dynamic leader.
So really glad to have him in the Meteor ecosystem and what they're going to be doing with V2 on our end.
Like, of course, Meteor is going to be powering everything that's V2.
And we're very much committed in helping Ogle and the whole AOL team to succeed not only on the launchpad side of things,
but any feature product that comes out under America.fun.
Particularly very bullish on how Ogle is going to execute.
And he's just that type of leader where it's like you just have full confidence that he's
going to see different problems, address them, and come out with something that is America
come out with something that is America first and, you know, for the whole community.
first and for the whole community.
No, I totally agree. And having used everyone before, and again, Meteora is my go-to,
maybe to not put you on the spot, but you know Meteora better than anyone here.
I guess, what's the edge? Like, there's Jupiter, there's Radium. I believe going with, and this
isn't, I'm I, I've,
I'm mutuals with radium and, and Jupiter, right?
So I'm not trying to talk shit on them at all,
but what's the edge where America fun is going with, with Meteora,
as opposed to some other directions they could have took.
Yeah. I wouldn't talk to you about radium either. Like, you know,
they built a cool product. I think we're,
we're going really over things is like we're
constantly innovating and we we make a clear effort to help all our partners win um and a lot
of times that comes in you know they're looking to create a whole new product um which requires
like you know building on our end um but just outside of the technical side um we really want
to amplify like the best launch pads,
you know, create a whole, we're creating a whole ecosystem
and we want to leverage that to help like any of our partners
like AOL succeed and, you know, with distribution, marketing,
any sort of resources they need to help like get to their vision.
Yeah, we've seen like, so V1's cool. I like it because I talked to,
I guess it was Banana last week is who I spoke with. And the whole UI UX kind of reminds me of
the old school kind of Windows slash, I guess, Curve Finance, your finance type of look and vibe.
And the coolest thing I think so far about America Fund has just been the curated launches that are more quality over quantity.
And you brought up fee too.
I think it's going to be really, really cool where it's still, I would still say it's going to have that quality over quantity kind of niche because there's going to be a $200 kind of, I guess, just a fee in general that also is a flywheel back to America Fund.
But super excited to see this kind of overall powerhouse of Meteora and America Fund going into V2.
I got to think it's coming around the corner pretty soon.
I know when I talked to Ogil a couple weeks ago, maybe even last week, and I just follow you guys' notifications.
But it was like, hey, we're going through this audit.
We want to make sure everything's buttoned up,
which is obviously super important.
Security's number one for should be for anyone. At least no one knows it's
important until they're the one who's effed over. Right.
So I saw that audit report more or less came out.
So you got to think we're coming up around the corner.
up around the corner so excited to see what what comes out of v2 with meteora as well
So excited to see what, what comes out of V2 with Meteora as well.
i agree and like you know i think everyone sort of agrees that there are problems of like the
current token environment and it's going to require different ways to like sort of approach it and
you know ogle's going in thesis and you know coming out with a really cool version two of
everything and it's going to be it's going to be very neat to see how it all goes.
They've done a phenomenal job.
Investors were sort of presented at MetDavi,
showing the metrics you guys have done at this point.
You guys have done a lot with very little.
And almost no Launchpad can say you know say that
yeah it also helps when ogles a billionaire right and pumps a lot into it at least that's what
vesper is saying yeah i think he apes at least like 100k each launch yeah i see him i i heard
the next uh or the first v2 launch is going to be a Vesper goat or Billy goat.
What is that?
Let me see.
It's not a Billy goat.
It's a deer.
I don't know.
I can't do that.
Deer head.
So funny.
And hey, Kar, how are you?
It's good to see you again.
Hey, and Kitty, that's so sweet.
I love meeting Kitty in IRL.
Kitty is a great person. Yes. seconding was super cool to me and like connect super super smart dude um yeah everyone go like
follow kitty you guys just like something for each other yeah we're it's like the spider-man
meme you guys might get me out to real life events events again. I used to travel a lot to Denver and Singapore and everywhere,
and I haven't for a couple years, just kid life, right?
But I need a little break for my kids to go back out
and meet some pretty good people.
We'll host an America event soon,
and we'll have you come on out and host it.
There you go. that'll be good
I'll uh let's see I'll wear my costume I'll look just like my PFP so perfect we all throw on a
little America hat yeah I'm sure I so I'm really excited um to have Greg Greg I don't know how to
not put you on the spot but would would love to, you're a huge part
of kind of the backing of AmericaFund. I was super excited when they announced your name,
just because it shows that, just the validity of having someone like you kind of backing this,
maybe if you're okay with it, if you could kind of introduce everyone who may not know you,
and just a little bit about you, and what you're doing to support AmericaFund.
Sure, man, I appreciate it. And here, if you do get out of the house and you wind up in Denver again,
look me up. I'm out here. So be good to meet in person too.
I just moved not too far from your area.
So yeah, I would probably be out there not too far now.
Well, look, it's great to join everybody and to be playing a role in what
OU and the team are building. I was at Token 2049, and I sat down with a guy who's pretty well known
in the Web3 community who has a company that a lot of people here would recognize. And we were
talking about what we're building a fiber and something that he had worked on
a project that a previous company that I had led.
And it just kind of in passing, I was like, yeah, during my time at AOL, blah, blah, blah,
you know, years ago.
And he said, wait a minute, I don't think I knew that you were working at AOL.
Do you know Ogle?
And do you know about this project?
And I was like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
And he's like, well, I got to introduce you guys. So Ogil and I get on a call and we just start talking about what
he's building and my time at AOL and some of the parallels to what we were building in the early
days of Web 1.0, which right now feels like the stone age compared to everything we've all been
doing here in Web3.
And Ogle and I really hit it off.
And we were like, you know, maybe there's a way that I can get involved, you know, kind of as an advisor in the background, whatever, and just kind of be a sounding board for Ogle
and team as they're building stuff.
So, yeah, so, you know, I got involved on that level.
And then I also was at Breakpoint, you know, last last month and I got a chance to see Vesper in her
big coming out party, which was awesome, and to meet Carr and hang out with them a little bit
over the course of those couple of days and talk about what we're doing. So it's just really good
to be part of something early on like this and the vision of what everybody's doing.
early on like this and the vision of what everybody's doing. I could go on and on
forever about what I find are kind of uncanny parallels between what we did in the early days
of the internet at AOL when we were just connecting people for the first time. And
you guys, most people on this call wouldn't even know that what Ogle and I always laugh about when
people were dialing up into the internet on their phone lines. And we were providing this great on-ramp, this utility to bring people online for the first time.
And it's not dissimilar to what a launchpad does if you think about, you know, what we're trying to do here at AOL.
And there's a whole series of parallels to what we did, to what's going on here.
And so I'm super excited to just be able to play a role and to add some perspective to all this.
In the meantime, we've been, you know, I didn't.
So I was at AOL for a long time as a ticket master for years,
a couple of other big companies, public companies, startups,
been in web three now, you know, for, for a minute going back to about,
well, I guess 2016 as,
as kind of an individual just buying stuff
and then built a company called Moonwalk Labs during the NFT craze.
And about a year ago, we were just watching what was going on
with the launch pads and all the kind of chaos of what was being launched
and all these meme coins and super exciting to see what people were building,
but also realizing it's a little bit too much of the Wild West
and a little too much perhaps chaos
and also no real utility to those platforms.
So we started building Fiber with the idea
that any token community that got approved
and met certain criteria could be integrated into our platform.
And that platform would give instant utility from
a commerce perspective. So from an e-commerce perspective to that token. So fast forward,
Fiverr's in development, pretty much done, probably launched this quarter. In the first instance,
it allows anybody to shop at over 50,000 stores worldwide. Just connect your wallet, go into the application
and say, when I shop at Best Buy or I shop at StubHub, I want to buy tickets or I want to buy
something for travel, pretty much anything. It could be DoorDash. When I shop, these retailers
are going to incentivize me and give
me something back. They're going to give me cash back. And so what we do is, let's say Card decided
she wanted to buy something at a particular store and she wants to earn the token of her choice.
She goes into a dropdown, she chooses AOL or she chooses Valor. And when she conducts her transaction, let's say she's due 20 bucks back.
We will take that $20 and each transaction settles on chain using USD one.
So again, another alignment that Ogilvy and I had was USD one.
So we bring that, that transaction on chain.
And then we actually give Car, instead of giving her 20 bucks back in cash,
we give it to her in the token that she's chosen.
So it's a way to kind of passively be earning tokens
of your choice.
And this can be evergreen.
You can just set it and forget it.
Or she can, on every transaction,
she can pick a different token and get paid.
So there's a speculative nature of what's going to happen over time as well.
That's the very kind of basic platform.
But you can imagine where this goes over time.
It turns into much more of an ecosystem.
You'll be able to connect your credit card and just passively, every time you swipe your credit card, pick whatever token you want and earn.
Awesome.
And then you'll be able
to start earning as you're engaging on Web3 platforms as well. So maybe that's a trading
platform or an NFT platform. The big vision for us over time then is also to be, we're not going
to be shopping the way we shop today, right? I'm not going to be going to a website and clicking
on a display ad in Facebook or Instagram and then going to a website and browsing around and shopping.
There's going to be agents doing all this stuff. And those agents need intelligence and they need
to understand who people are in order to interact with them. So our big vision around Fiverr is
agentic commerce and providing behavioral intelligence around all of that while giving
people incentives and earning tokens. There's a huge roadmap that we're doing, but that's the highest level of what we're up to. So we're
providing utility to projects. Ogle and I are talking about ways that we can decide, you know,
once we go permissionless here at AOL, and there's all this volume coming through, there's going to
be a time when certain criteria are met and you'll be eligible to be integrated into Fiber.
There's a lot more to come. Stay tuned. I'd encourage you guys to follow us on X and,
you know, go join the wait list at Fiber.shop and see what we're up to. But I'm really psyched
to be part of this project and contribute any way that I can and, you know, bring whatever,
you know, advice and experience I can to the team. Man, I have so many things to say, Greg. Let's start with no one
really knows what AOL is, but it was great when you pick up the phone and you just heard like,
and nothing worked. It was painfully amazing. Yeah, but that's great. That's the coolest thing
is to see it come kind of full circle from the first layer of where internet was to kind of where things are going now.
And if I'm going to wrap up and summarize all of that into kind of one thing, the coolest thing to me is the connections and the work history with your background and obviously Ockel's background.
history with your background and obviously Ockel's background,
there's a lot of growth opportunities specific for America Fund
to integrate and tie into lots larger kind of partnerships and networks.
And I think that V2 is going to help open the door for those kind of things, right?
And I kind of laughed because at first you said,
car is going to get $20 and like, that's, that's her pay forever.
And then I picked up what you were saying for a second,
but then I was just thinking her $20 she gets in whatever random token,
now she's going to be a billionaire because she could speculate that that
token is going to go up in her rewards.
Exactly. Well, look, I mean, we built, when we built, you know,
an on-ramp onto the internet, that's really what AOL was doing.
People came for that, but then they stayed for community.
They stayed for content.
They stayed for an ecosystem.
And then we took all of that community and we turned it into an ecosystem so that third parties could then reach our audience.
And there's a lot of stuff that can happen with the AOL version 2 and beyond that can start to feel like a real ecosystem where
people are plugging into it, projects are plugging into it, and then AOL can provide
services to third parties and to holders.
So this is just the tip of an iceberg of great to have a launchpad that brings a little more
order to some of the chaos, but also to provide an ecosystem of services for holders and for
projects that use the launchpad.
So it's exciting times, and I'm psyched to be part of this and to join you guys in these calls in the future and contribute wherever I can.
Yeah, no, thanks, Greg. I appreciate it.
And I think I had a chance to meet Banana last week, and I was actually, I was a pretty big ETH Maxie for a long time. I still like ETH, and I wasn't aware of everything that Banana had done
to contribute for Solana overall, and now he's a part of America Fund. And it just makes me feel,
I guess, just super confident in what's to come with all the, I guess, integrations and
possibilities. Because we, I mean, you've been in the space since 16, right?
I've been in since 16 as well.
And there's so many like just things that get built out
and it's just absolute garbage.
No one wants to use it.
No one cares about it, right?
And there's however many chains out there
that it just, it doesn't have usage, right?
So what I think is really fun about America Fun
is there's so many different layers
that are going to be able to get tacked onto it where it's just going to grow on its own and all that's a flywheel back to the token.
So it's an obvious decision to just own the token in general.
If you think that Ogle, Greg, Kitty, everyone's going to succeed, that that that goes up and that kind of helps out.
Right. And things take time time but it's you can
kind of see the the groundwork being laid so thanks for coming up and speaking good
uh naomi are you on burger i am here i am hello how the heck are you i'm doing great how are you
you are doing so good i'm i'm doing good it's freezing here um i yeah i'm
in colorado and i don't know how cold it is but it definitely feels way too cold oh but i i just
wanted to say hi because i like talking to you a couple weeks ago it was good it was really fun
yes it was i i did tell you that i burger was the i mean you guys were the first aol token
that launched maybe um i i think quite a bit of people probably know who Burger is.
But can you give us like a quick, I don't know, two, three minutes overview on Burger?
And again, I like everything on AmericaFun, but you guys were the first.
So maybe if you feel confident or comfortable to talk, let everyone know.
Yeah, we have a special place in Harrow's Heart.
And I will claim that as the first AOL launch and the first in harrow's heart forever will you hear it burger um yeah it's been fun
we've actually done some great things since we talked last um we so we talk about coins going
multi-chain right but burger has gone multi-social media we uh opened a TikTok account, which has just kind of gone crazy. In
like two weeks, we've gotten more than a thousand followers, which is fun because on TikTok,
we don't have the built-in community for AOL already to give us exposure like we had, you
know, maybe with Telegram or with X. But we're kind of starting totally from scratch,
and it's just really taken off there. Pardon me, I have a little bit of a cold. And people are
coming to our TikTok by searching things like Solana meme coin, our best coin to hold in 2026.
So they're finding us totally from scratch with the right keywords. And even just today, we got invited to TikTok shop.
And so we put together a whole shop of all kinds of new burger merchandise, which is great.
So, oh, that's the other thing. Not only do we now have our TikTok shop with generic burger merchandise, but we have custom branded burger and America.fun and even Valor t-shirts and hats and merch on our Redbubble store.
That's awesome.
Again, please pardon me.
I'm like so out of breath.
No, no, you're good.
I'm going to give you a break to talk.
We do, again, we do have like three or four more hours.
So I'm going to need, you're going to get some rest, but it'll be okay.
The reason what I saw actually, I don't know, was it, it might've been a week ago or two
weeks ago.
It was, it was about a week ago now, but I saw that some other burger coin launched
launched on USD1.
on USD one.
And I was like, oh, this isn't going to go very good.
And it's just kind of like, one, I think VAMPs just...
Anyway, VAMPs are really, really annoying and frustrating.
But in my, like, knowing Berger and knowing that it's on AmericaFun
and knowing that the USD1 tokens ending in USA
are like the real ones to kind of purchase.
I was like, yeah,
these guys are going to be very short lived. So like if I pull it up right now, it was very
short lived. So I had no worry. I had total confidence in you and obviously what America
fun and you guys are working together to make it make it go. But that's just what made me think of
you too. I was like, huh, I wonder how long that's going to last. Not very long, I think.
Yeah, I think it was kind of a blessing in disguise. We got a lot of exposure and actually
a lot of growth because of that, not only in price, but just in followers and people mentioning. So,
you know, yeah, super sucked. And I'm not happy to see anybody lose as that token, you know,
went to zero as we could have predicted. But for for us you know some people got a chance to see
the real burger the real community the real thing that may have not found us otherwise so
i'll take it yeah well what's really cool too is like meme coins there's not really a roadmap
there's not really utility but what's really cool is when you see people squeeze as much as they can out of finding some utility
or some type of way to get more brand exposure.
So with merch, et cetera, et cetera,
like that you guys are doing that
and continuously building in a period
of maybe only like two to three weeks
since I talked to you.
So, I mean, that's comfy.
Yeah, we're gonna be an e-commerce powerhouse
and a meme coin powerhouse and every
other kind. Just continuing to grow. Mabel, I really like your avatar. I think I might switch
mine up to that, but I haven't had a chance to meet you yet, really. Who are you?
Yeah, I'm just a troller. Well, funny enough, I actually met, provided by thanks for having me here.
I'm probably not someone who launched, the only person who's here not launching anything on AOL,
but I'm pretty much quite involved in many different milestones of AOL, so I was very happy with that. So I personally also built
a launch pad specifically launching cultures and non-American culture related stuff memes on
Meteora and Ogil and I we met actually on the internet earlier this year or last year when I
just finished my angel round.
And funny enough, like he thought I was still raising.
So then we chatted and then became really good friends.
So like ever since then,
like we had a lot of initiatives together.
So what we do basically in nutshell,
it's like you can tokenize your tweet.
And then like we've had a lot of iterations and stuff and then had a few
runners before.
But primarily, you know, the key audience, I should say like the core users
were people who are in Asia.
We do have some English speaking folks as well.
But then also there are a few other people who are playing around the world.
a few other people who are playing around the world.
And I think like one thing we definitely very much aligned with AOL is that we do think
that trading cultures is going to be something really big in the next 35 years.
So we are here just to kind of make the whole experience fun.
And specifically right now now if you go to
trends.fun like you can actually see a news feed there. So you can kind of just
like read the news and then trade the tokens there and then some of the news
will stay, some of them will fade, but some of the one that stay it's basically
becoming a culture. That's what really our world right now is. So yeah that's what um really our world right now is so yeah that's um that's who i am and um
i have a lot of funny stuff to to say but i'll keep myself a little bit here
so mabel's being very humble um she's awesome and been like a massive massive supporter of like
american all fun from like the very very early stages um her also saying that
like Trends has had a few runners like they've had some like massive runners like if anyone
remembers like the whole like Solala stuff like that was all like born out of Trends um so yeah
Mabel's like really awesome super deep in like the Solana eco um so if anyone doesn't know who
Mabel is like they should definitely know who Mabel is.
But yeah, no, we love you. And thank you for joining the spaces, Mabel. And we love trends.
Mabel has the best PFP in the space. And Mabel, you are being too humble. I don't think,
I think you could dive deeper. One, you got some good jokes that you need to spit on on stage.
you could dive deeper one you got some good jokes that you need to spit on on stage and then to your
involvement with solana you should bring that up so tell everyone i guess your involvement with
solana in general so that they know that we have like the og soul person on stage right now i see
okay i wasn't planning to tell that but sure happy to to talk a little bit. So I know AOL has a lot of Chinese followers or Chinese users.
Funny enough, when we had that Chinese runner, I was talking to Ogle about it,
and he's like, oh, now you're going to surpass our number of Chinese users
because you have that thing.
I was like, oh, I didn't know you guys have a lot of Chinese traders.
So what happened was that back in 2019,
when Atoli, Raj, and a bunch of other people
were raising in Asia,
like, they actually are kind of the underdog.
And I happened to get to know them.
And I was actually, I was doing investing at that time
and then not super, super busy.
So I hang out a lot with them and spend time.
And I like these
people like they're extremely humble to the extent that like totally would stand
in the Defcon Osaka like the the whole conference hall obviously everybody
else there is like doing some if you're in related stuff like he'll just like
put a like a card like a big card like writing Solana there with him and then
have people chat with him
if they have questions.
Obviously, no one knows what it is, but he would just stand there all day for like three,
four days and shows how much grind the early founder are willing to take.
And fast forward, obviously, they do it very well now, but back in the days before SBF,
which is the founder of FTX, if people here don't know.
I know this is funny because, like, a lot of Gen Z actually don't know about who he is.
So I had to, like, explain sometimes.
Sam Bingman-Fried, the best creator of all time.
Right.
And so, like, before he got involved, like, people aren't really interested in like integrating SPL
standard Solana program library which is the token standard for Solana back in
the days I mean even now as well right but like we use token 202 but like many
use SPL so I had to I was I was a multi coin at that time so at the same time
while I'm like doing all the investment and part of the job is
actually portfolio management. And obviously, all of you guys know that Swan has been a huge part of
multi coin success in the early days. So I had to talk to all the exchanges, wallets,
and a bunch of other, like, I guess, like just downstream, upstream people to kind of,
can you please like, you know, integrate us in X, Y, and Z.
So that's definitely something that I was quite involved in the early days
and also hiring a bunch of people in Asia for them over the years.
So yeah, it's been great seeing now,
like obviously there are so many super team,
like people willing to do all the volunteering stuff for them.
But in the early days, it's like really interesting stuff.
I wouldn't expect that this will go this big.
So it's definitely very interesting to be part of the history.
Well, there's, I mean, there's a lot more to say.
And I know it's hard to talk like good about yourself, right?
But like really, if anyone really kind of knows you, they can kind of go back and say
like, damn, she's been in everything like like even stepping i don't know if if many people recent
people know stepping but like that's another kind of massive feed and feature um that you were that
you've been a part of right yeah i was there i was big in stepping i think i had a i think i was a
i don't know what round i was in stepping but, but the app, everything was great. So I guess, I know this isn't really a Steppen space, but what I'm trying to go out full circle is like to have you kind of in, to have America Fund's back with your massive background is, again, it's putting more reputation on the line for America Fund.
I think it's huge.
Absolutely.
Well, I think as founders or people who are just building in general,
we empathize each other a lot.
That's why we try our best to help each other.
Well, and you tell good jokes.
So I'm ready for you to interrupt me later on throughout this
so you can start telling Ogle jokes.
Hey, thanks so much, Mabel.
Appreciate it.
And again, yeah, Vestler called it out.
You're way too humble.
Everyone knows who Mabel is.
If they don't know, they do know.
Hey, Ogle, I actually did a space yesterday with a solana token i think
is really cool and i see them start to put out um some stuff around america fun they actually
were going to try to join today but he's having some some medical issues um his name's luke he's
part of radar and i'd love to learn i guess what you guys are maybe doing from a privacy perspective with America Fund potentially.
Yeah, I actually, I mean, maybe that's a Vesper thing.
Well, no, I mean, this is kind of sly of you, actually, because I remember yesterday or a couple of days ago,
whenever that space was, I listened to it, too. And you asked him for details and he's like, yeah, I can't really speak on that.
And so now two days later, you're like, Hey, Ogle, maybe, maybe you can speak on that.
So don't, don't try to get one over on me, Mr.
Hara. The, the reality is they, they, someone went through one of my, one of my like,
like tweets and they said, Hey, you should hear about this thing.
Like, I know you care about privacy and these guys are on privacy related stuff. And I was like, cool. Because the reason I got into
crypto in the first place was a long time ago was for cypherpunk related stuff. That was the point.
And so I was like, okay, let me look into this. And they ended up without us even talking,
they ended up doing quite a large acquisition of AOL token. They integrated the AOL token into their, into their ego.
And, and now we have, we have some discussions, you know,
that are happening,
but there's nothing to speak about publicly at the moment.
All right. We'll just say potentially good.
The reason I bring that up is just, yeah, I did.
I couldn't get it out of it out of him on that space.
And maybe things are still TBD.
But same as you, privacy has always been kind of a key metric to get into crypto.
Also, I'm really good at round tripping.
So I think it's like, why not just make money and then lose it instantly?
That's another reason I guess I'm in crypto.
Maybe Mabel and Greg can help me out with that in the future.
So Patriot
wrote in the comments, and I don't know,
they're not on stage, so maybe they can...
They said, you guys heard news about Patriot.
I don't know any news about Patriot.
They're not
on stage so they could tell me the news
about Patriot. Do you know any news about Patriot?
Yeah. We'll just say it's good news. Yeah, I mean, there's good news about Patriot. Do you know any news about Patriot? Yeah, I mean there's good news about Patriot. I mean I think there's
actually like in general like in terms of our
v2 launch there's good news about all of the
or four of the five eco tokens that have launched
from us. There's good news about that that That will be kind of codified, solidified
here in the next period of time.
People will see that we appreciate them
supporting these tokens and supporting the AOL community
for the past few months.
So we're gonna try and show that in a certain way.
And so that's good news for Patriot.
But Patriot itself, you know, Patriot is a project
that was set up to do donations, actually.
So very similar to like the Giggle Fund, I think it's called on Binance,
is set up to basically raise money via LP and so forth, LP fees and whatnot,
and use those to donate to certain causes.
So in this case, the Patriot guys, they're focused on veteranrelated things for the most part.
So there are a couple of cool collaborations that are coming
that they can talk about at some point.
And there's quite a bit of money put aside for donations.
They've already done one donation.
I can't remember how much it was.
It was like 10K or 5K or something like that.
But there's a significantly larger amount of money that's been raised just from LP fees
Like mid tens of thousands maybe high tens of thousands so far that they'll be utilizing for doing
You know for supporting supporting people who you know who who who give a lot, you know to make sure we're safe and safe and sound
know to make sure we're safe and safe and sound no that's epic and one thing that's really cool
and isn't said enough so i mean i i did i i've done spaces for for a really long time right i
was doing spaces for another launch pad for like six or seven months um and i can say wholeheartedly
there isn't any other i mean we're friends with everyone right but I don't
see any other founders really popping in on these things and talking to their community and
necessarily rewarding holders in early communities built on their platform um so I that's me
politically correctly saying you guys are doing a really good thing that I think people should recognize.
And if they don't, they will recognize it.
That's one of the pitfalls, I think, from a few of the other places is there's, again, America Fund is quality over quantity.
But it's also Ogle and Vesper and Carr and everyone else involved.
You guys see that, hey, success in our ecosystem tokens means success for us.
And I don't know what that announcement is or what the news is going to be, but that's something that I think has some virality to it because no one else is doing it.
And if I am in the trenches or I'm buying tokens, I want to buy tokens that I know that the main team is going to help kind of support.
Obviously, Ogle, you're not going to pump every token to Enkabal it, like to Oblivion, right?
That's not organic and that's not really
a good look but you're there you're um you're you're helping kind of push these tokens you're
providing resources to them so they can grow and then whatever this potential good news is to going
to early supporters it's going to be um pretty interesting and i think something that's probably
worth sharing and that will get a lot of people back over to America Fund if they're not already here. Well, thank you. Yeah, I mean,
it kind of goes to the ethos a little bit. So, you know, one of the differences I think in like
what we're doing versus others is rather than putting the quote unquote devs first, which
there's nothing wrong with doing that. But rather than doing that, we're trying to put the people who are bidding first. And so the people who are actually doing the
investments, the people who are, you know, who are end up holding the bag a lot of the times,
that kind of thing. And sort of the theory here is that if we can take care of those folks in
various different ways, if we can reward them for participating in the, you know, in the launches,
if we can reward them for hanging on whenever things are a little rough.
There will be a positive feedback loop there that hopefully is created, first off.
But secondly, I think that when people are treated better in that way, the users can
start to demand that people launch on AOL, right?
That's sort of the goal here.
We start by taking care of the users, make sure they're in a better spot than they otherwise
would be.
We put in protection mechanisms and we put in other sorts of things that take care
of them. Then if you're someone, if you're, you know, if some like KOL comes out and
says, I'm thinking about doing a launch, where should I do that? Why would you possibly promote
somewhere else if you know that they don't take care of you as a user? If you know that,
you know, it just doesn't make sense. And so we're trying to kind of kind of build that that way where if someone says look i only bid america.fun tokens
because that's the place where i know ab or maybe maybe also trends too well i'm sorry i only bid i
i mostly bid america.fun tokens because that's where i know i'm going to be taken care of and
this way this way and this way right and and and my hope and my goal is that we can change a little
bit the way that the way that people are doing these things.
We can put the people first.
And then the devs will say, well, if I go launch over here, I'm not going to get the support that I want.
Most of my users want me to launch an America.fund, so I really have no choice.
I'm going to have to pay the $200 worth of AOL.
I'm going to have to give up some of the things I normally do to screw people because there's mechanisms in place to stop that.
But if I want to launch a token and I want to build a community, I'm going to have to do it that way. That's just
how it's going to be. And so they're going to have to accept it. That's what I'm hoping for.
I know Kitty has his hand up, so I don't, I mean, you're the one hosting it, but I just want to say
like the ethos here is to try and provide support for those people who support us.
I can't see fans on my thing, but Kitty, go ahead and talk. Sorry.
Yeah. I just want to add like everything on everything on top of what Ogil just said,
like, I was basically stalking, creeping, like, the AOL community
last, like, maybe two weeks just to get, like, a vibe or temperature check.
And what I sort of observed was AOL is such a community-oriented, like,
launchpad, and, like, where I see it going is yeah yes quality of quantity but like such a
great place for communities to form like I've never seen like such a community of this size and
you know sizable at this point like you know supporting each other positive vibes and like
really just max rating everything and it's it was really cool to see because you I haven't seen
that sort of environment like elsewhere for at least like a launchpad specific oriented thank you yeah i uh
i mean i saw i mean i saw i mean alan and i are friends too and um he's been kind of more silent
on the timeline and stuff but you just see a lot of people are like hey like either drop your token
or why are people supporting this like it's just just a straight up far anyway there's a lot of kind of animosity and frustration and i
think it's a good time to see like hey where's the where's the people taking care of their
communities you know um hey kai with swarms maybe you can come up and tell everyone a little bit
about you and and your background and how you're working with AmericaFun and what you're building
with Swarms as well.
Appreciate that.
Nice to meet you all.
Hey Vespers.
Hey Kar, how's it going?
Thanks for inviting me to the space.
I'll briefly tell the story and how we met.
We met in Abu Dhabi and actually uh is the one that introduced us we're
getting breakfast and then I had the pleasure of meeting uh car and Vespers and it was a great
time we spent a lot of time together and we share like we share a very uh like a very strong sense of patriotism for America.
I'm a Cuban immigrant, and my family escaped communism when they were coming to America.
America is really the only country in the world where you could build a massive business without any form of government intervention.
This is something that like
has never existed before like america's only really been around for i think 250 years or
something and in that time we have become the world's biggest country by gdp and uh and like
basically every economic metric so like with these like with this in mind, I, I, I think the like core
narrative behind America is very, very interesting. And I, I totally agree with it as an American.
I want, you know, America.fun to do really well. And, um, we're going to be working together on
some interesting stuff. I don't know if I could say exactly what precisely but um we're gonna be uh trying to bring some agents into america.fun so uh yeah there'll be
uh some agents uh being introduced into america uh doing some interesting things and um we we've
uh i actually i didn't i didn't say what i uh. All right. So Swarms is basically...
Just build cool shit, Kai.
That's just all you got to say is cool shit.
Yeah.
We help companies and people build cool agents, basically.
We're the world's largest provider of agent infrastructure.
We help big banks like BlackRock, Chase, JPMorgan.
We help manufacturers.
We help crypto companies.
We power
coin market caps, AI integration.
We're also working with OKEx and
Bybitz. And we
just help companies build agents.
Let me
pause you right there, Kai. Holy shit.
What is this dream team you've assembled
of connections? Jesus Christ.
Kai, and how are you 22 doing this? When was 22 i was i you don't want to know what i was doing when i was 20 i'm 36 now dude and
man anyway keep going sorry yeah the the answer to your question is um so uh swarms like we have
a lot of developer tools and we made those developer tools open source.
And we got all these massive enterprises using Swarm's
just by using our open source products.
So that's kind of how it happened.
And we just recently started monetizing
and starting to focus a little bit more on growth.
But we've been an open source infrastructure company
for a long time. Kind of like what
Docker is. Everyone uses
Docker when they're building an app.
And we want Swarms to be
the universal agent stack.
everything we've done is open source, and
now we're just focusing on
growth and helping companies to
integrate agents into their apps.
So, yeah. Dude i i yeah i'm
really excited i i just tossed you follow the coolest thing about these spaces so i love doing
these in general i like i always meet new people and i i like to surround myself with people much
smarter than me um and actually just about anyone is much smarter than me, but so long as they're all so nice, I like to talk.
I'm nice. You guys can get that out of me. I'm nice, and I'll treat you good.
But it's really cool to hear from you guys that are big brains and do what you guys do.
So, Kai, I'm really excited. That's super interesting.
It sounds like you have a lot of massive W2 payments companies and orgs using your tech.
And then that tech's also some way, shape, or form.
You can't speak on it.
But going back into America fun.
So that's awesome.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think a lot of these platforms like Pomp and Meteorol and Jupyter,
I think we need to start integrating agents more into DeFi.
As of right now, our biggest user base
by the number of agents deployed is traditional finance.
And it's kind of crazy how traditional finance
has created and deployed more agents than crypto,
where crypto basically has to...
You would think crypto is like
forward-looking or something but it's actually quite the opposite like it takes web3 companies
to adopt ai longer than traditional companies it's very weird but um uh we're starting to see
that change and hopefully we can accelerate that change because AI is going to fundamentally change every single app in Web3 and DeFi.
And I think the platforms and the apps that adopt agents, the fastest, will do better than those that do not.
Like, for example, CoinMarketCap, they really didn't have any AI up until fairly recent.
They really didn't have any AI up until fairly recent.
And then they started integrating AI to summarize coin data
and summarize a bunch of information.
And people don't even want to look at a chart anymore.
They just want to get an AI-generated summary of a project.
You could have a look at the 50-day moving average, the RSI,
a whole bunch of technical indicators,
and agents can do just technical analysis much faster than humans.
They could also analyze 100 different tweets
and analyze KOL data.
And yeah, so I think with the integration of agents into DeFi
and launchpads like America.fun
and a couple of other platforms I think this is
really good for the market because it's going to move faster than it's already moving and you know
that's good so yeah yeah I mean it takes the emotion out of it too right if an agent's doing
it an agent's not making those moves and decisions based on emotion they're just doing it based on facts and data
yeah which is good because a lot of traders are you know trading mostly like completely emotionally
and uh this is good like this is good to a certain extent but you you know like i think the market's been like really cooked the past couple months because investors don't know how to calculate their risk and uh you know we've been seeing a lot of people lose money so um i think this is good for everyone
it's good for the you know the platform it's good for the trader it's good for that like project
itself it's just good for everyone so yeah well i yeah again another one to add to the list of
the many goaded founders that are kind of backing this and kind of integrating with it.
Hey, Wiki, you're going to be another one, too.
Maybe you could talk about what you're doing for CoinW and WikiCoinW listing.
And I guess how that would kind of play into AmericaFund.
Yeah, sure.
Good morning, everyone from Chengdu, China.
It's actually very, very early morning here.
It's a lot of fresh energy listening to you guys talking all about this.
This is Vicky from CoinW. Hi, Vesper.
And we actually...
Hello. Very nice to have you up.
Very nice to see you. We actually have, Coin.W have a very long cooperation with
AmeriCol and FAM on different, both no matter on this AOL or before in Burger and also in Patriot.
Before that, we actually host an AMA Space Talk, inviting Burgerger and Patreon to do a promotion together.
And looking forward, in the future, we will do that more maybe.
And also, we didn't discover America.funk through a single event or promotion.
We monitor on-chain activity in the Salon ecosystem, continuous and basis.
We're looking at trading activity, community engagement, and how quickly
this kind of narrative start to attract attention.
And what makes our like have a deep impression is how
the organic traction around the AOL token.
We saw increasing discussion.
We saw a lot of participation and we saw like an unchain activity tied to a barter launchpad concept rather than just one-off me.
So from a platform perspective, that kind of combination, more clear positioning, like early community formation and attempt to introduce the structure through creation is something we actually like to pay attention to.
And that led us to reach out to start conversation,
which later, I think, will develop into a better cooperation.
Yeah.
I always say this.
So if you've listened to me talk on Spaces for the past year,
I always say that, and this is gonna sound so dumb but i wish i
was chinese i think the chinese community is the strongest community there is and i actually even
saw like a japanese coin i don't know that that it's numbers right i know mabel probably knows
what i'm talking about but it's like i started to exclusively almost look into chinese coins
like i think i did a tweet yesterday. I get confused on my days
doing this full time. I think today's Friday. Oh, it is Friday. It's American Fun Friday.
What am I talking about? But yeah, there was this Chinese coin or Japanese coin with all numbers.
And Wiki, that just goes back to me saying that in a round roundabout way i think the chinese community coin is is the most bullish
thing to have on your side um so to have that kind of tie in and maybe you said this too the
the america fund has a pretty pretty big chinese community that's like a powerhouse
yeah yeah and i think um just like to chime in here as well like it's super cool and like you
know we've said this a lot like on the spaces and stuff before and,
you know,
a lot of our comms,
but you know,
America really is like for everyone.
Yes.
You know,
we're obviously called like America.fun,
but like,
we really want to bring in like the whole ethos of like America and like
American exceptionalism and like the spirit of like opportunity and everything like
on chain and like I think people from like any country across the world can like really resonate
with this like ethos you know and like so meeting for example Wiki and Mabel and you know all of
our other like friends in the ecosystem as well like you really meet them and you're like wow
like these people are super cracked super super smart like doing some like insanely amazing things and like how can we kind of connect and
like bring about some of these like opportunities on chain and on to like you know america and all
fun and i'm not even trying to stroke your guys's egos but like you guys have it's it's yes you say
friends but i say like powerhouse friends like you guys have like the
power couple of friends um like on this stage too so it's like there's friends but then you got
uh these I'm gonna call wiki a chinese well then you got these chinese wells like mabel and wiki
I mean come on sorry I'm yeah I started to get invited to some wechat groups and i didn't know what they were
saying so i had to pop it all into google translate but that's how that's how that's
how big i am in on the chinese community i'm i'm in different chats that i don't know what they're
saying and when i get active i start copying and pasting to see what they're saying. Wait, that's the real alpha. It's a bullish sign.
You know, like back in 2018, 17, all these
like non-Chinese, they come
to China and they'll have to register
WeChat. I have Anatolia on my WeChat
too.
See, that's where the alpha
is, so I'm going to have to figure that out.
I've got to say, I'm on WeChat too
starting back in 2017-ish arena.
So, you know, you should add me.
We'll make the only English discussion channel in there.
How about that?
Deal.
I'll pop on in.
I don't even know how I got it.
Anyway, it's a terribly long story,
but I got invited to the Chinese well WeChat
from an alleged Chinese well.
I don't think they were really well,
but it was just a whole lot of Chinese community
calling me the N-word.
And I don't know, but then they posted some alpha,
so it was a good place to stay.
Hey, Josh, let's turn it over to you.
So Josh is the founder of MCG Live.
Would love to learn a little bit more about you.
And then also, guess your background and what you're doing with America.
Hey, guys, I'm kind of a spectator on America.
Fun, a big fan of Kitty and Meteora.
We're a show sponsored by meteora and really kind
of made a name for ourselves over the summer covering the icm and ownership token narrative
with like metadao and the believe launchpad and and soar and then i randomly walked into the
podcast studio at met dobby and i saw vesper there who we do a lot of work with at Meteora sitting across from
another Vesper which was super random because I didn't I've only heard Vesper once in my life now
there's two Vespers in front of me uh so then I'm like okay what's this America.fun thing and I
listened to Vesper's talk I met Dobby and I was like okay this is really cool um so yeah you know
we had Ogle on MCG live uh this i think it was this week monday maybe
i forget uh it might have been last week monday this week all the streams kind of blend into one
uh so we just were massively impressed i was like wow okay this is really cool uh i would love to
like disrupt pump fun and bring something fresh to the space. That's kind of what we thought ICM was over the summer, but you know,
believe kind of didn't really work out.
And I think you guys are going to be the ones that do it.
So we're really going to trade some tokens on AOL.
And I, you know, I heard Greg, your background also heard that you're in Denver.
My parents are actually in Denver.
So when I'm down in Denver I'll hit you up
yeah but your parents has yeah yeah exactly they're they're in the foothills uh you know
go skiing out there I'm a Toronto guy personally but uh but I love uh going down to the states
outside Kai on swarms on MCG Kai really impressed with you man good good on you for building a great business but really
quick background i mean a couple huge wins i'm 2015 crypto class i met raj and anatoly pre
solana testnet in 2019 uh we were part of a project called kin which was developed by a
company called kick messenger and they launched a token they were like the first to migrate to solana so i met the
guys really early uh sol has been a great part of crypto obviously and then i really made a name for
myself because i bought crypto punks like literally the first week that crypto punks were issued and
it was like the og nft thing and so for years they did nothing and then all of a sudden gary v and
all the punks went crazy and it was just this wild ride.
So have a long,
long story background.
but yeah,
just love Meteora,
love AOL and,
you know,
excited to stream us,
you know,
AP into some tokens this week.
Hell yeah,
dude.
Well,
I think the,
it kind of all goes back to Solana too and kind of solana support for these
different tokens and then everything being built on top of solana feeds back to solana and like
the place to build right now again i i was an eth maxi that it it's got to be solana right um i
remember being in i think i had a soul flare well I don't even know if SoulFlare wallet still exists anymore,
but I had one at one point when Soul was abysmal, right?
When Soul just first launched on Binance forever ago.
And it's just crazy to see where it came and has gone
even after the Sam Bakeman-Fried FTX stuff.
And it's just really cool to see all the builders coming
and then continue to pivot and build on it.
And then on this space alone, all the people that are building and part of different protocols and communities and have different integrations that could be possible and open up for America Fund, which is awesome.
I really don't have much more to say.
I'm going to let you guys bullshit and
just, we'll just swarm Ogle with questions. Ogle, what are you most excited about coming up here
soon, dude? I think probably launching. I guess that would probably be the thing I'm most excited
about, launching V2. The thing is, the thing is this, I'm actually a little bit more excited
about something else. I'm very excited about launching V2, but I'm more excited about
like showing, like starting to, to reveal some of the much bigger, the much bigger vision that we
have. The thing is, we can't, we can't talk about every single thing, but I think that V2, whenever
people see it, they're going to be like, like some, some amount of people are going to be like,
oh, okay. You know, like that's going to, that's going to be a reaction, I think.
But actually it's, it's, it's a fundamental change in the way that, that, that I think that, um, that we are set up on the backend.
And I think in some ways on the front end as well with our staking and with some of the other stuff.
And the, this fundamental change on the backend is going to enable us to do the iterative, uh, modifications modifications like the V3, V4, V5, V6, etc.
Over the next period of time, the next three months, six months, nine months.
And I think I'm actually really, really, really excited about starting to tell that story.
People, it's interesting to me, you know, since the very beginning, I think probably like the first week I was talking about America.fun, I was saying it's not just a launchpad.
I shouldn't say just because just is – it almost sounds like that's not enough.
You can build a whole business and it's going to be incredible and just be a launchpad. But we are trying to build so much more interesting stuff that will be
kind of vertically integrated that when that starts to come out, when that starts to be obvious,
I think in hindsight, people are going to think, I mean, I hope anyway, people say, oh,
I should have read that a little bit more closely. Or, oh, the hints were all there.
I was there in the beginning. I didn't pay as much attention as i should have like that's what i'm looking forward
to because there's not a whole lot more that i love in life than being doubted um because whenever
you're doubted you have the you know you have the opportunity to prove people wrong and it's it's
it's just so much fun it's so motivating i you know we have a few haters out there i love those
guys just as much as i love our lovers because because it you know it's it feels so good to be able to put things out there and show people
that that indeed you can have hope you can have have confidence in people that you've never met
in real life like not everyone's bad some people are out there trying to do cool stuff and I and I
think that the team here is that and you know whenever we talk about the people on stage the
folks we've collaborated with,
our partners and our friends,
none of the people that we're collaborating with
or we're partners and friends with are not,
at least from what I can tell,
to the capacity that I can vouch for another human,
they're all good people, right?
And I think that's what we're trying to fit together here
in some ways is a consortium of people who are good
folks trying to build good things have good hearts they're not trying to harm people they they
they legitimately want to make a positive impact um on the on the ecosystem but also just on people's
lives um and i'm just super stoked to see that come to life i think that a rising tide lifts
all boats in some ways and and uh you know if if we can help to facilitate that for everyone on the stage and they can help facilitate it for
us then it's gonna be great for everyone who's participating in that in the
market as well
sorry let me do you love when you talk on you Ogo for like a minute and then you
just realize that you've been on mute this whole time absolutely I love it so
much love it so much. Love it so much.
Hey, I see someone in the audience.
I don't know if she can hear me.
Casey, do you want to come up and speak?
I don't know if you can hear me.
Oh wait, did Casey Craig want to come up?
The biggest AOL supporter now is here.
Bigger than me.
Wow.
Wow, Casey Craig's in the audience.
Oh my god, are you serious? We love Casey.
Whitcar is not serious. You know, like everybody else walk away from this AMA with AOL, I walk
away with LOL. There you go. Wait, I thought it was LOL. Isn't it LOL? What's this AOL
you're talking about?
LOL is the token.
Oh, wait, Casey's up as a speaker.
What's going on here?
What's up, guys?
How's it going?
Hello.
Hello.
Casey, you got to tell, I mean, I know who you are, Euphoria.
euphoria you got to tell everyone about your background and what like why are you listening
You got to tell everyone about your background and, like, why are you listening on this?
on this i'm listening because i'm a big fan and supporter of aol and the uh the crack team of
people that are up here big fan of uh aol team of mabel herself and everybody else that's over
here so appreciate everything that everybody's doing here and yeah i've been supporting since
day one um i work on a project called Euphoria on MegaEath.
And so a little bit different than what everybody has going on here,
but big, big supporter of what you guys are doing here.
Yeah, but Casey, one tap could change your life though, right?
One tap could in fact change your life.
Did you know that's kind of like my motto?
I like that we're pivoting from click or spin to tap.
I actually like tap a lot better.
Do you want to tell everyone a little bit, I guess, what we're talking about when I say one tap can change your life?
Yeah, you know, like there's one soul in a dream, right?
It was a thing that went around for a while.
So we built something that's called tap trading.
And it's a super fun way to trade options.
And it's a super fun way to trade options. And it's a super
fun way to interact with the market where you simply just tap on squares to trade. And yeah,
so like one tap in a dream, one tap could change everything that was inspired by the Solana
culture. But yeah, no, we built just like a super fun, super simple way to trade. We want to make
something, you know, similar to AOL, like we want more people to come on chain, we want more people
online, we want more people involved. And we want to give them like a AOL. We want more people to come on chain. We want more people online.
We want more people involved.
And we want to give them a really fun and easy way to do that.
So yeah, that's what we're here for.
Casey, you know what you're doing?
I'm saying this jokingly, but also seriously.
I don't know if you have kids.
So I have a couple of kids, or if you have nieces or nephews or whatever.
And they have had iPads since they were like three
years old and i think one tap to change your life is is is breeding them into being the futures
the future of traders that just literally tap to victory look it should be anybody should be able
to use the product right like we joke uh my mom is extremely tech illiterate and my co-founder
has a young child and we product test on these people who have like never ever used crypto apps, they've never used anything
web3 and if these kind of people can use it then anybody can use it right.
So that's the goal is we just we want things that are simple and approachable for people
because I think that in crypto oftentimes you know your friend asks you hey how do I
use how do I trade crypto?
You're like well how much time do you have right.
It takes like a 45 minute explanation as to how to set up a wallet, how to do XYZ.
And when you, you know, when you build towards something that anybody on the street can
understand, then I think that that's how we grow the pie. You know, it's so cool that you're doing
that. This actually brings up a super interesting point. Maybe you all could educate me or Casey, you could educate me. So I know that crypto and onboarding into crypto has come a long way year over year, especially more recently.
way possible these days of onboarding into crypto.
I'm still, I don't know, like, is it legit going to something like,
even downloading Phantom and creating a wallet and stuff sounds complicated.
Like, I wonder where I'm telling them they have to have different wallets
and they have to bridge and they have to do this and that,
if there's an easier way to explain to them.
Maybe I just need to have them start tapping,
and that's the answer right there.
I think Mr. Ogle can speak on Glue over there, too.
We've got Glue is designed specifically for this, right?
It's to make life easy for people
and to be able to come in without any prerequisite knowledge.
But yeah, I mean, generally speaking,
like you're going to have them...
I mean, look, onboarding experiences have gotten a lot better
over the past couple of years.
When you look at something like Phantom and MoonPay and I'm sorry, Moonshot and all of
these kind of things you can.
Sorry.
Yeah.
MoonPay, Moonshot.
All of these names are the same.
You can you can Apple Pay into them.
Right.
You can like go from fiat to crypto a lot easier than we could whenever we all started out.
And so it's a lot less friction, but it's still a lot of steps. And it's still,
you're still introducing a lot of new things for people in this process. Like they're not,
you know, when you say, hey, it's really easy to fund a wallet now. Well, you forgot that they
don't know what a wallet is in the first place. You forgot that like they don't know what
this Alana network versus another chain is versus you know xyz so
i think it's like in the future these types of things where it's extremely extremely abstracted
away is is the key to getting people to care um ultimately for me my vision uh with what i'm doing
and i know with what a lot of people on this call are doing is for is to build apps that happen to
run on crypto rails that when a web 2 user comes over to these things it feels
like an app that happens to run on crypto rails it's not a quote crypto app right so i think that's
the goal i i think that's so well said i i'm doing like remodeling and stuff so i'm going to
like i don't leave a lot of money in my checking account um I do a lot of stuff in crypto in general, right?
So it's like having to go get cashier's checks
and then each bank teller telling me,
oh, there's a cashier's check fee for doing this.
And it's like, things are so easy.
Like I could send 20K to someone randomly in crypto
that I've never met in five seconds
by copy pasting their address.
And then it just seems everything else is just so much
more difficult right but i think we're getting there and i love how you said it's like it's not
a crypto app it's like we want to just have crypto rails but people don't know if it's a crypto crypto
or not um yes it's using the rails but it they don't know different it doesn't have to be have
the crypto connotation i know i i know i run a business in crypto now but like i have to say
i do more on chain transactions and stable coins than i ever have and you know it's been 10 years
so far which is crazy i heard some 2016 crypto people it's a decade now guys we used to feel
like we're early we're we're old now but yeah. You're such an unk, Josh.
Hey.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
I was just telling you that we're unks now, Josh.
Okay.
Yeah, we're unks.
Yeah, we're unks status.
I got kids too, which is crazy.
I'll let them look at the tap thing, but I won't hook up my credit card to that because
they definitely probably won't make good financial decisions on my behalf.
But yeah,
stable coin,
just sending money back and forth.
I'm starting to learn a little bit more about USD one.
That was kind of one of the key takeaways from when I talked to Ogle,
but yeah,
it's,
it's happening.
Yeah.
I don't think I could trust my kids yet with Tap.
My daughter, she plays Roblox.
I guess a lot of kids play Roblox, right?
But she was playing this Safari Africa game.
And she's like, I want to buy this because I keep dying.
And it's like, I'm not spending $60 so you could become a cheetah so you don't get eaten.
And anyway, I bought her the cheetah for $60.
But Jesus Christ, I need to become a Roblox staff.
You actually bought it? That's actually really cute.
Well, she was a dog.
She's like, I'm just this dog.
And if I'm this cheetah, then people won't kill me.
And I was like, you're never going to play this game again.
And truly enough, she hasn't played the game.
Wait, but that's actually so goaded.
Because I remember as a kid when I was playing Club Penguin.
And I really wanted the membership to get the special puffles.
But my mom wouldn't let me get the special puffles.
And I was so jealous of all my friends who had all the little fun, different colored puffles.
So you're actually such a cool dad.
She will remember that.
And she will be grateful
maybe maybe maybe when they get older and they don't have any money they'll be like dad how come
you don't have any money so we can like get a down payment for house because you guys had a
lot of fun when you were a kid sorry and you know what it was worth it that's really cute yeah um
it's they call it disneyland dad i guess that's really it's really cute. Yeah. They call it Disneyland out, I guess.
That's really cute, though.
Well, yeah.
So thank you, everybody, for coming up here.
The only last thing I think that probably we should talk about is the launch itself, right?
I think that at least some number of people are interested in the launch and the timeframe around that
and the date and that sort of thing.
And so we got our audit done, as you guys saw a few days ago, and you mentioned this
earlier, Haru.
We got our audit done.
It took, I think, two iterations, and we got everything sorted out and everything's good.
It came back pretty clean the first time, but it's spick and span now, which is great.
And we feel good about it. That was the part that we were most focused on getting audited was the
staking contract, because that's the part where people can really lose money in a meaningful way,
potentially. And so we got that sorted out. What we're doing now is we were considering launching
yesterday. We're there, pretty much. So we were considering launching yesterday, like we're, we're there,
pretty much. So we were considering launching yesterday, we were considering launching tonight.
I think we're not going to launch tonight. I think we're going to do another day and a half,
two days of, or maybe half a day. Well, you know, we'll see. But we have some kind of cosmetic
things we want to modify. And we have some, some database things. This is all doesn't matter to any of you probably. But we have a little bit of database things that we want to modify and we have some some database things this is all doesn't matter to any of you probably but we have a little bit of database things that we want to
optimize for if we end up getting um too many users you know or like a lot more users than we
anticipated we want to be prepared for that um and so we do need to make a couple of modifications
on the back end accordingly but we're we're very very close here um if we're you, very close here. I told people, I think it was five days ago, I told people it would be single digit days.
So it turns out single digit means nine or fewer.
So I still have a little bit of wiggle room there to make that happen.
And the team is at work very, very hard.
I'm pestering people at three o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in afternoon nine o'clock in the morning nine o'clock in the afternoon and um and and the team is just
is just really pushing so hard and so i'm very proud of them i'm i'm the one being pestered
in case anyone was wondering uh look that's for a period of time that um i found a little
and then he obviously never responds i was just like paying desperate by default.
I think a lot of people do that.
I've become like the de facto, like Ogle secretary.
You're the lair too, you know that, right?
That's a good way of putting it, Mabel.
Don't have to re-reaching that.
Oh my God.
That's actually so funny.
But yeah, so we're coming down to the home stretch here.
We've had so many interesting conversations
with people who want to launch on the platform itself.
Last night I had three dinners
and I had to pretend to be hungry for all three of them.
You know, it was, oh my God, yeah, I'd love to do dinner.
And I'm like stacking it's like five, 6.30, eight, you know, kind of a thing. Um, and real struggle, dude. Oh, shut up. I mean,
what I'm trying to say is, you know, it really is a lot of work to me one-on-one with people who
do care about you and make sure that they also, you know, like know that you appreciate them too.
Um, and, and, uh, sometimes that requires eating steak three times in a row. It's a hard life.
And so, so, so, so I did that so I did that for the past week or so.
Some people have been like, where are you at, Ogil?
Why are you not talking as much in the community?
It's because I'm on the ground.
And a lot of the teams on the ground, like hustling right now,
the devs are in the basement coding, as they should be.
And we're really doing our best.
I think in the next half a day to three days is when we're going to be launching
and we're looking forward to it.
We'll give you guys a heads up. It's not going to be sudden.
It's not going to be like, oh, by the way, hey, we're live.
You know, we are going to give a little bit of a heads up at least.
So be sure to go to the America.fun Twitter or X or whatever and put it on notifications.
Put myself on notifications as well because I'll retweet immediately whenever that happens.
But, you know, I just I'm looking forward to getting people's feedback.
And there's almost certainly going to be a couple hiccups.
There's almost certainly going to be a couple things that we get wrong.
And I'm looking forward to hearing what those are and iterating
and showing you guys that we take feedback seriously.
And we're not looking at this as a short project.
at this as a short project. We're six and a half months into this right now. People were not
We're six and a half months into this right now.
realizing how far in time-wise and effort-wise and money in that we are here. It's actually
pretty far in. But if you think about how long life is, six and a half months is nothing. We're
also still very new. We're very young and we have a long way to go. So this is not our plateau. This
is not even from my point of view, the beginning almost of what we're doing. and we have a long way to go so this is not our plateau this is not even from
my point of view at the beginning uh almost of what we're doing like this is the baby stuff
we're you know we're we're really we're really really nascent and um i'm looking forward to
coming back on something like this whenever we do v3 and v4 and v5 harrow and saying look what we've
done and let me talk about the things that are coming up in the future and then hopefully we can impress the people
Man, I'll go I really hope I'm not on spaces when I'm like in 30 plus years from now like and
But I'll say not 30 30 I'll still be fine in spaces 30 plus years Let's say if I'm in my 80s and on spaces ogle
I haven't done something good in life because I don't know who would listen to me at that point
Well, I'd probably fall asleep sleep midspace each conversation I haven't done something good in life because I don't know who would listen to me at that point.
I'd probably fall asleep mid-space each conversation.
Well, I mean, you're doing good things in life.
You're doing good things.
But I think I understand what you mean.
I mean, everyone wants to do things because they want to do them, right?
They want to be there voluntarily without the necessity of worrying about financial side of things and just live their life the way they can the other word for that is freedom right and um and freedom is a very you
know it's a very american concept and i think that um if you stick with us harrow you won't have to
wait till v30 uh to be completely free how about that yeah i i don't think so it's i being here
since 2016 it's crazy to hear josh say that's decade because, man, it is a decade. I actually was doing good because I bought ETH at like $11 and then I think I sold it at $9. That's about how good I am at trading.
When it went from $12 to $9 overnight and everyone's like, oh my gosh, it's done.
You know, my Miss wallet, I'm just going to forget about that.
Yeah.
Good God.
Dude, so fun.
But the coolest thing is like that's take that same type of energy and time and just see it lay over the 10 years.
It's like there's so much opportunity to find that again.
And now, let's say a decade now or a decade from now, it's like, man, I really had the opportunity to do that again and now let's say a decade now from from or decade from now
it's like man I really had the opportunity to do that again right and I
didn't take it so there's always opportunities out there yeah and then
Ogle I'm excited for V2 because I'm gonna I'll probably launch a coin on V2
and I'll probably call it be China coin because I told you like the Chinese
community maybe it'll just use some random symbols and2 and I'll probably call it BeChina coin because I told you I like the Chinese community.
Maybe I'll just use some random symbols and numbers
and I'll send it to Mabel to pump it.
Whoever launches Deerhead token or LeiTol
is gonna be the one that actually crushes it
because everyone's in love with Vesper.
And I think that the first one to launch that was gonna be,
I mean, that's gonna be our first billion dollar runner
probably, almost certainly.
I'm gonna think I did it and then i'm gonna accidentally have like a
billy goat instead of a deer and then i'm just gonna be i just was wrong from the beginning
so um i think it would hit one bill faster if you do that. That's actually a good
point. All right. Yeah, that's actually a good point. There's a lot of things to be
done around horses and this year also, Mabel, I don't know if you realize this,
being across the pond, but it's the 250th anniversary of the United States of
effing America. Okay, and so it's quite a big one over here and maybe
there's a way of merging the horse and the big 250 somehow.
Okay.
Maybe we'll launch it, let's go.
And I'll, the last five minutes of the space
should give some people some good ticker ideas
and then I'll buy.
Kitty, what kind of ideas do you have?
I know you're pretty active in the trenches.
Dude, I was telling Vesper,'m going to launch cash tag America, but I heard you
guys are vamping me.
Yeah, I would actually like, like three days ago, I was like, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, one thing we haven't thought about is we need to actually put aside
some, some words cause people are for sure going to be launching like, you know,
like America America for example
so I went and made a list of 541 words that people can't launch and then I sent that to
some of our beta testers and they were like this is way too broad like you know you're you're
limiting too much so so I'll say this people aren't going to be able to launch a few things, but, um, you know, but against my own preferences, that 541 has been dwindled down to like 40,
uh, now. So, so there's going to be a lot of them out there that you have the opportunity
to get if you want to make something. Yeah. Well, and if you have any questions,
just DM Vesper, right? Yeah. I'm just going to say, yeah.
A fun fact, you know, the fact, fact sorry you know go ahead oh no i was just gonna say like um a fun
fact about ogle is that he loves like all these linguistic jokes that's why he can come up with
like 541 or whatever and just for everybody yeah yeah yeah words are fun words are great
yeah i'm just gonna look for like see what like cool American, you know, themed coins come out.
And if they're making funny content, I'm just going to blind ape.
Yeah.
So the reason why we partnered with Meteora is so that we could work with Kitty Cut, who is just absolute top blaster.
kitty cut who is just absolute top blaster so if anyone wants to pump their coin all you need to
do is just go and get on his faces with kk and convince him to buy your coin and it will be
absolute top signal that's what you know neither confirm nor deny kitty cat i'll let you know when
i launch a combination of the horse china america America, something with kitty in it, and then billy goats and deers, and we'll run it up.
Let's do it.
Awesome.
I have to go.
My wife is – apparently she bought my AirPods, which I guess is good.
But I guess, Ogle, in closing, I'm really, really excited for V2.
I think we're still in single digits, right?
Yeah.
Good things take time.
And again, it's barely been any time.
There's so much, much more on the horizon.
So this isn't even the beginning.
It's the pre-beginning.
Well, thank you for hosting this today.
And all the speakers, thank you very much for coming up and saying some nice words.
And then for all the listeners, of course, now and in the future to the recordings, I just want to say thanks very much for coming up and saying some nice words.
And then for all the listeners, of course, now
and in the future to the recordings,
just wanna say thanks a lot for coming here.
America.fun will be launching here soon, the V2.
We really look forward to folks participating in that,
giving us feedback and all of us growing together.
Awesome.
And again, I don't think I've seen a bigger goaded and not to say Billy Go for Vesper
but a bigger goaded panel um up here right now between Greg and Casey and Mabel and Josh and
Wick and uh I mean Cara I'm gonna say you too I'm not I'm not trying to count out you and Naomi
and Vesper but Kitty there's just a lot of names all right I can only read like five names but
thanks so much it's really great to meet somebody that I've never spoke with before,
but I've always envied from the sidelines and lurked on your timeline.
So, appreciate it.
I hope everyone has a great weekend.
And Ogle, looking forward to seeing that V2 launch so I can slam it
and launch my random coin when I want to see it go live.
Awesome.
Looking forward to it, man.
You guys take care.
Have a good day and a good night.
Thank you. Thank you, buddy to it, man. You guys take care. Have a good day and a good night.
Thank you, buddy.
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