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America Fun Fridays🇺🇸 w/ Burger🍔
Recorded: Dec. 5, 2025 Duration: 0:56:03Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, the launch of America Fun Fridays was announced alongside the introduction of the Burger token as part of the new USD1 ecosystem. The conversation highlighted strategic partnerships, community engagement, and a shift towards sustainable growth in the crypto space, emphasizing the importance of building lasting relationships and supporting social causes.
Full Transcription
Thank you. hey what's up burger let's just do a quick mic check i guess okay i'm here how are you
i'm doing well how are you good i don't think I've talked to you before, right?
I did a Spaces with Burger probably two months ago, but I don't think it was you.
No, I am newer than that. It must have been the old team.
I'm helping out with the Burger CTO, and this is actually my debut space guest joining.
For real? For real. I've never spoken in one of these before
and you usually do bigger things like big podcasts and stuff right what do you mean
you don't do small spaces you usually do big podcasts and stuff instead i'm sure yeah i'm a
consummate professional with years and years of experience that that's good so you're not
you're not like me who just kind of pops in and just randomly blabs on for a couple of hours i
actually i got the time wrong on this completely so this shows you how good i am so i've been doing
this since so i used to do spaces um like every single friday like there was a points drop for
this this community or social platform called franticech and every Friday we do with spaces and we did that for probably six or seven months and then
just recently again I started doing some some bonk spaces in August a few days a week but
I still for the life of me can't seem to suit to get my time zones down because on this space, I think I said, we're going to go from 2 PM to 4 PM Eastern. So we, uh, we're, we're already way off of that.
So 4 PM to 5 PM Eastern is kind of how we're going to run it.
Yeah. I laughed at your message. You said C E S T. I was like, wait a minute.
Oh yeah. Yeah. I swear. Didn't you say C? Oh, no, you said CST. Yeah, you're like Central Eastern Time. It's right. We'll make up our own time zone.
Yeah, we're here. That's all that matters.
Yeah. And thanks for kind of popping on impromptu. So I want to run this every single Friday. We're going to call it America Fun Fridays.
America fun Fridays. And I know we didn't really have a lot of time to kind of promote or get it
going right away, but this is the first of, of, of an ongoing thing. And I'd love to have you come
up. So with your, this being your debut, um, I'd love to have you on, on plenty more. So,
so, um, so yeah, a little background, I guess on these spaces, I, uh, as we're getting people in
and then people listening to the recording. So i am starting to make a lot of conviction plays personally into the usd1
ecosystem and i feel like america fund is the best position for that um with ogle's connections
into world w financial right um i think uh all of it flows back to to bonk which is a leverage play play on solana
and i feel like solana world liberty finance america fun etc um all kind of ties into this
giant flywheel um and i'm a huge sucker for points so i i did a little research i actually spoke to
ogle on america fun on spaces probably two and a half months ago.
And I learned that there was a points program. And I've always loved farming points, climbing
leaderboards, and just farming in general, right? So I think that America Fund's probably the best
place to start positioning for a USD1 rally, which I don't think we're we're far off from so being that
burger in uh is the very first launch on on aol um i wanted to bring you up it only makes sense
first launch first time speaking on spaces that we have you guys uh come up and explain burger
what you've done where you're going and and kind of go from there so this is gonna be it's super
casual so a lot of times when people pop on spaces they're like hey can and kind of go from there. So this is going to be, it's super casual.
So a lot of times when people pop on spaces, they're like, Hey, can you send me like a full on multi-page document of talking points and things like that? Um, we're just going to have
fun. So even if we don't go at the full hour and everyone gets out of it, what they wanted to get
out of it, that's perfect with me. Sure. No, I'm, that sounds great to me too. I, I, I did make my notes. I'm a little bit full
of nerves, but I think, I think we can wing this. Like I listened to the space that you did with
Ogil a couple of months ago, and it super inspired me on AOL, on America.fun and that whole ecosystem
as well. So, um, you know, I, I've been a long you know, I've been a longtime supporter.
I've been a friend of Glue, which is, you know,
those other projects and America.fund since the beginning.
And so when I was offered the opportunity to join the CTO for Berger,
it was basically a no-brainer.
I'm like, this is the first launch, the first child, if you will, of this
amazing ecosystem that is really primed to take advantage of the America trade, of the USD1 trade,
like you said. And so I saw it just as a way to have fun and vibe with the community and kind of build something that would continue to support them
as they build this flywheel that I really do just like you believe is going to really take off and
do some great things for changing the culture of meme coins and launch pads in the Solana space.
Yeah, no, I couldn't have said it better. I think that so many, and I don't know, we'll dive into like kind of maybe your background and how you got into the space and things like that.
But I feel like the trenches kind of need something different. I feel like people, a lot of people who their very first time getting into crypto overall, they feel like they've got scammed in one way or another.
overall they feel like they've got scammed in one way or another maybe it was an nft launch from
from logan paul or jake paul years ago uh maybe it was because they bought trump coin or maybe they
bought um libra etc etc etc and a lot of times those people buy something and then they are down
like they put the 100 bucks which is a lot for them and then they go down to $2 the next day.
And they just kind of get burned.
They're like, I'm never touching this stuff again.
So I'm really hopeful and, I guess, confident with USD1 and World Liberty Finance.
It should bring a lot of positive exposure back to the space so people can actually start winning, right?
Bringing people in and having them stay
because they are winning, not bringing them in and killing them down 99% in a single hourly candle.
So I'm hopeful that AOL can do it. And I love the point aspect of it and farming aspect of it,
which I'm going to probably be talking about a lot. I haven't really talked about it a lot
because I don't want to dilute the farm,
but I'm learning it's not really going to dilute the farm.
And it probably makes sense to start doing these spaces impromptu
just to kind of show my support of where I think America Fund is
and where they're going.
And I genuinely like just kind of doing it and interviewing different people,
building conviction and the things I have.
So with America Fund, I obviously have AOL,
but I have way more burger than I do
have AOL. So I have about two, a little over 2% of burger. And I, I'm still buying it because again,
it's the first, first token launched. And I feel like, yes, tranches aren't as fun right now,
but they'll, they'll get better. So I told you I'm going to ramble a lot on this space,
but I'll get into some questions now.
We'll put it on you.
So maybe you could give everyone a little bit of background about maybe yourself.
So how you got into crypto, and then we'll kind of dovetail that into maybe how you got
involved with Glue or Burger, and yeah, and then we'll continue from there.
Oh man, did I lose you?
Wait, oh, I can hear you now.
You're good.
Okay.
Oh, I just said to folks who see me online,
I'm Ciderpunk, aka Naomi. I am, excuse me, CTO builder, not terrible
trader for the past six years or so. But you know, in my real life, I am a homeschooling mother of
six living in rural Tennessee and doing crypto kind of just as my side gig to support my family. And it's just been really
fun. I love hanging out with people in crypto. I've always enjoyed the Telegram chats. I've
always enjoyed the time I get there as a hobby that's not related to my kids and my homeschool
and everything else. But it's been, what did I say? Did I say it? I got into crypto about 2020.
Oh, so you've been here for a while then. Yeah.
Yeah. Just in and out of different communities. I started out in the XRP world and the utility
banker coin and then moved on to discovering DeFi and then memes. And through it all, I think the thing that has
kept me here and the thing I really want to try to create with Burger is that community aspect.
Like people don't hate meme coins. Even some of the most lasting projects today are still meme
coins. You've got Bonk, you've've got those, you've got, you know,
the different ones. It's just that they hate the scummy behavior that has come to dominate
everything lately. The, you know, the friends and family, the bundles, the in and out in 12 hours
thing where crypto has always been about building something for the longer term.
And the holders and the community builders, they're the ones that last.
They're the ones who make it out in the end.
I'm living proof after six years of this.
Those communities are always the places where I've made the most to support my family.
And it's how I want AOL to be known,
how I want Berger to be known.
And I really think that we can change this culture
and make a difference in that way.
I love that.
And you know what's actually the coolest thing?
I love that you started your journey
in with crypto with XRP
because everyone dunks on Ripple
and I've had my plenty of shared dunks on ripple
but the funniest thing ever was literally if you would have held held ripple um for me personally
if i would have held ripple over a lot of these other things i've held and round tripped it's like
i would have outperformed it by holding xrp which is the it's like i look at you say 2020
so you could have got end up what like
when it was 20 to 30 cents and it's still even after the drawdowns over two dollars and i think
if you told someone back in 2020 that wasn't a fan of ripple right because everyone that was a
fan of ripple was like 589 that was the meme right it was going to 589 um so that was i mean it's
just it's insane to just pull up the chart and look now and be like, damn, I have all these lines I drew on ripple from 2018, 19, 17.
And it's like just blowing out everything out of the water.
So you came in, in a, in a really good time.
So I'll, I think you, we could, we could call you an OG cause you've been here for quite
a while.
Um, you've been through NFTs and stuff cause you would have hit that in 2021, which was
kind of like the first community phase in building.
But that's really cool.
I love that you're here.
You're doing it because you love the community aspect of it.
You're obviously really good at building a community because I look at Burger.
And some of the hardest bag workers I know that have been in other projects with me, they're rocking an America Fawn and or a Burger PFP.
There's this guy, his name's Dude Wooderson, and he's in your community.
He's actually rocking a Burger PFP, and he's probably one of the hardest readers I've seen.
Yeah, we love Dude.
Yeah, no, he's a good guy.
He's one of the ones that deserves it more than a lot of people,
right? So I think anyone that's a bag worker, small account, they get in with conviction and
vision, and I think they deserve to win. Like, I have percent supplies, but I don't bag work really
hard, right? Because I try to stay silent on the sideline, but it is for sure probably top three or four favorite USD1 coin is Burger.
I love it. And I thank you for that. We just actually started an X community today. So if
you go look at it, it's still really tiny, but everybody should join up so that they can help us
because we want to be all over Telegram. We want to be all over X and we're hoping to even branch out to other social media where we can, you know, push burger to maybe new audiences and in different ways that haven't been so saturated.
But yeah, we that's that is what I am all about.
Sorry, I was just pinning this to the thing so people could join the community.
So I just joined myself.
I'm really bad at like multitasking. Sorry, I was just pinning this to the thing so people could join the community. So I just joined myself. Thank you.
I'm really bad at multitasking.
I do this on my phone, so I can't tap around things too much.
But no, that's awesome you created it.
I feel like it's an actual real community.
And again, I'm a sucker for points programs. So trading and swapping on America Fun with this is just an easy decision.
So maybe you could tell me a little bit about
the backstory of Berger. So it sounds like it is a CTO and I'm guessing as the team evolved
and changed, it sounds like you are either a newer member or one I haven't obviously just
spoke with before, but maybe we're more behind the scenes. But can you, I guess, explain where Burger started
and where it's at today with the team overall?
Sure.
We don't actually know a lot about the original team,
and that is actually the problem.
They launched Burger.
We were the first launch,
which everybody was so excited about
after everything that AOL was building.
And a ton of people supported, a ton of people came. And then we just didn't hear much from
the team with all of the huge, huge memetic potential that Berger has. And so we just got
together and decided we were going to CTO this as a community. And AOL has been
incredibly supportive of that. It's actually astonishing to me how much they support,
how much they do, how much they're there for us with anything that we need or ask for. And I think
that's one of the cool things about being part of a launch pad like AOL is we know we have their
support.
As long as we're putting in the work, they're going to be there to back us up every step of the way.
So we dove in.
We're looking at different ways that we can both grow the community. But just also like do justice to this amazing meme that is burger.
You know, I've heard.
I don't remember if it was on your space with Ogle or a different one, but he was talking about how America is the greatest meme that there
is. But, you know, in a way America's America as meme is an idea. It's the, you know, the American
dream. And there are various symbols and images that you can think of when you think of America
and the land of opportunity. But like, if you distill it down to just one tangible thing, you know, like a big juicy burger just
stands for America. And even as we've been tossing around ideas with the community,
both within the CTO and just publicly, we're realizing how far the meme of burger really goes. I mean, it is a humongous, humongous industry
worth $600 billion a year. That's how much people spend on burgers every year. Literally 50 billion
burgers just in America alone get made every single year. Like it's huge. In fact, one of our
it's my favorite food. So i have to buy some because i
mean that's what i eat the most of right it's like even one of our and maybe you could just
yeah i was gonna say maybe you could moonboy math that and just say that that would be the the price
is x burger supply times amount of burgers created or eaten or consumed in a year equals
future token price and fdb oh yeah absolutely
but we're making it even simpler that we won't stop until one burger token equals one big mac
at mcdonald's that's like five bucks and well and and the thing is i guess is the price keeps
getting higher so i guess that's it goes with inflation right absolutely but big macs are for
sure more than five bucks now let me see big mac Big Mac price. I was, speaking of that.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it's like four to seven dollars.
So I started this, like, McDonald's is like a Monopoly thing.
It came back after years.
And I started playing it.
And I was like, after about four days of eating McDonald's, I was like, oh, my God, I can't do this anymore.
And I was only doing it for the Monopoly pieces.
So I looked up on eBay and I i was like how much do these monopoly
pieces like who's really winning like am i gonna win monopoly and then i realized that people are
selling full sets of the pieces for 50 bucks and you could buy there's only like they only print
like three of each winning piece i was like i guess i probably should just stop my four-day
streak of mcdonald's and just just forget about my military trains. But people love contests, you know? I do. I'm a sucker for contests. It's so bad.
Points. I gamble every single day. And the one thing that I don't gamble on, I feel like,
is, I mean, I guess I do gamble on some coins, but I think that's the difference with
very few communities.
It's not a gamble.
So you're not buying because you're thinking overnight, I'm going to have this token go up a thousand percent and just sell.
Betting on communities like Berger, it's like, hey, I'm going to put money into this because I see the vision long term.
And I know in crypto, people think a year is just an eternity right it's a decade
so they want their money and they want it now but it's like if you can fathom like months and even
more importantly than that just being in an actual community that you love being in and you just show
up every day because the people are fun to hang out with and be around and it's more of like a
I don't know if you ever played games but like just just guilds or or i guess even some nft communities back in the day
and still to this day just fun to check in and hang out with your friends right exactly that is
exactly what it is for me like especially since i've been um working with the cto like for the
first time ever in what six years now in crypto i'll find that like i don't even check the prices because i'm just having so much fun actually yeah you don't care right it's like
it doesn't even matter not that we don't care about the price we are working hard to make sure
the burger is a success but you get what i mean like it's about the people i mean not not that
you don't care about your your kids either right but i i know uh we need a break from the kids sometimes too. That's what crypto is for me for sure.
Yeah.
so do you manage the whole X account yourself or do you have a whole group
that manages it or how big is the CTO team look today?
Like who's an all involved?
Yeah,
there's five of us now.
me and another guy named the cousin soul,
who is another amazing artist and bag worker who's been part of some other communities you may recognize.
He and I have been kind of tag teaming the X.
And we just brought in another helper the last couple of days who has a really strong background in both IT and social media and AI, who's really going to be able to help us establish even more
of a presence. And then we have several moderators. We have a Chinese community liaison.
Like our CTO is stacked. We have so much experience, so much enthusiasm and willingness
to help grow this, to help support AOL and the burger community. Like it's just, it's already been close to a month
that I've been on the CTO
and it literally feels like day one.
Like you were saying, you know,
24 hours sometimes feels like an eternity in crypto.
But like here a month later,
I'm like just as enthused, if not more enthused than ever.
And that really is part of what we want to get back to
in crypto and in the meme coin and in the USD one space.
Like this getting away from that really kind of
destructive idea that if you don't double or triple your money
in 10 or 12 hours, like the thing's gonna die
and we move on, like that's not healthy for anybody.
We want to change that.
We want to build something that lasts.
Yeah, no, I love that you said that.
And why not a burger, right?
One of our Chinese community members sent us some photos.
There was literally a burger street festival.
And I don't even know the town name because it was in Chinese.
But he took pictures for us with this giant inflatable burger that they set up in the town square.
And like all these food trucks and stuff.
Like it is truly the most global meme like everybody knows burger i couldn't believe it
it was so fun yeah yeah i would have memed that and even just said that chinese wells are buying
if it's all in chinese and they have burgers that's that would have been the the play um no
that's cool and and doing a cto i i can't imagine how hard it would be for like one person. So like to see you have
an experienced team that's been in the space for a while, has different skill sets. And like you
can tell scrolling through your socials, it doesn't stop. This is like a full-time thing
with multiple people running it, right? There's no delay in replies or posts, etc. It's
ongoing. And I love that you said that America Fund is super supportive. And I feel like World
Liberty obviously will also be supportive down the road as they can, right? It's a little bit
different, I'm sure, for them. But it's a long game. It's not just a, a one night pump and then, and everyone goes silent,
right? It's, it's building out something long-term. And I think the most powerful thing
anyone could have right now is like an actual community, not just, not just a gamble, right?
It's, it's a community and educated, I guess, play in DCAing and, and, and being part of that group.
Yeah. And it really, that's the way it feels.
Like, I don't know if you saw, but we did a really cool partnership with another AOL launch
called Patriot, who is using their trading fees to raise money for American veterans.
And I had this idea. I was like, well, what if we did a promotion with Patriot where they help us, you know, they
fulfill their obligation to their community of donating and Burger goes out and buys the
McDonald's gift cards and buys some Big Mac meals and goes and finds veterans in need and gives them
out to them. So over Thanksgiving, yeah, it was really cool. Over Thanksgiving week, I got to do
just that in a partnership between Burger and Patriot.
I got to go with my kids and hand out burgers to them better and say, thank you for your work.
Thank you for what you did.
And those kind of opportunities are possible in an ecosystem like AOL, where we're all united and we have support of this overarching family that is AOL.
and we have support of you know this overarching family that is aol and i have a the funniest thing
is is so on america fun you can earn points um but just buying swapping directly in the platform
itself right i haven't sold any of my so i own every single america fun token right because it's
like i can't have five percent of one toe i just isn't healthy for anything it's like and it would
actually make me just care about the price too much if i had that high but i i bought every
single token that's live on america fun right now um and it's like well i could try to buy and sell
and like point farm and stuff but it's like no i i just don't even want to look or think about like
the prices of things right now especially when when literally across the board, things are bottomed out.
So I could probably do a better job at point farming and like wash volume of
bison cells. But I love that you said that they,
America fun supportive of all of it.
And I love that you guys are working together to kind of support one another.
So like that collaboration with Patriot is is awesome and it's a lot more i guess
homey than um i i scroll through instagram and i saw this dude um giving out liquor bottles to
homeless people and i was like maybe that's cool but also maybe at the same time it's
not part of the problem but also maybe it's a good thing i don't know so yeah i i and it was like the pop-off crappy kind too so i don't think they
oh man i mean if you're gonna do it do it right these veterans it was good it was it was mostly
just a thing for for steak i think and they just rolled it up but anyway yeah i love to see the
collaborations and i'm excited to see what else comes out with america fawn but again burger being
the first thing there.
And when I talked to Ogle on the very first space, I was like, hey, what is this?
So I instantly bought it right away.
I didn't need to know any more about it other than I like it.
So if I like the logo of something and there's something attached to it, like a point firm, I'm all in to buy.
Yeah, that's great. And one of the things that I love about what AOL
is doing and with their points, they haven't said exactly how the points are going to be
used on the website, but they have talked a lot about their staking. And Ogle and team have just
very deep experience in DeFi and the DeFi world. But one of the bad things about that has always
been inflation. And you have AOL, which is a bonk launchpad token. There's no inflation. It's 100%
out. And where their revenue is coming from is what they've built with the launchpad. So when
AOL holders are able to stake, what they're receiving in their rewards
is new fees and new revenue generated, not just inflation or tokens or something that's not
sustainable. So if the points work into that as well, which I mean, I don't presume to speak for
them. I have no idea. But I know that there are no new AOL tokens being generated. So whatever we get for those points has to come from somewhere.
And in this time, it's this amazing combination of DeFi plus revenue, plus other stuff that they've said that they're launching that have nothing to do with the launch pad that we don't even know about yet.
And it's just going to be the most incredible, reflexive flywheel from people who've been doing this a long time and really understand the incentives involved.
So that's really cool to me.
Like, it's not your typical airdrop where it's coming from somewhere else that somebody's going to dump on.
It's coming from actual revenue that's being generated.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Well, no, it does.
And that's actually super important.
So I brought this up a little earlier, on not on this space but a different one um and one of the the biggest goats in this space his name is is dcf god and he um literally seeds
like every single crypto like if you scroll through his feed or like a DCF God seed, you'll see he seeds like every single crypto project.
And what he's said he's actively doing right now is looking for those that actually generate revenue.
And that's what's important to him.
So he says the only checks he's writing is ones that generate revenue, unless he's buying up some like first edition PSA 10 Charizards and stuff like that.
But that revenue aspect is really important.
And one thing that's unique with America Fund, different than a few others, is they actually will support the community tokens.
And having been in every ecosystem under the sun, right, and seeing and knowing what's getting supported versus not,
and seeing and knowing what's getting supported versus not,
America Fund, they understand that the communities,
they're going to live and die with the communities on there.
That's how they generate the revenue too, right?
So the better engagement, the better these can support
all the communities building on America Fund,
the better that they're going to do.
They realize that it's not just them and their own stuff. It's, it's every community winning.
So more people want to launch on America Fund. Um, and I, I don't know if they still do this,
but I vaguely remember Ogle saying, um, in our spaces like a month or two ago that they don't
just let, and like right now they're not just letting anyone
launch a token, right? It's carefully kind of curated, vetted launches, right? Which is also
cool because there's obviously some due diligence and background that goes into it. So you're not
just getting every single person chain launching tokens or VAMs, et cetera. Things are bonding
less and less lately, but I don't think America Fun, which is cool,
is going to have an issue with things bonding or not bonding because there's some vetting that goes behind it before something actually launches. So I don't know much about the team outside of
Ogle, but the fact that they're doing due diligence for what's actually being put into
their platform to have that kind of backing and name with World Liberty is pretty huge, I think.
Yeah, it is.
And they've been really upfront.
Like, okay, if you want to do this, we're here with you.
Like you want to do get into DeFi, we'll advise you.
You need introductions to exchanges,
like reach certain milestones,
show them you've got the commitment of your community
and your team, we'll give you the introductions.
You know, you want to do some KOL marketing? Here are the people that we trust that aren't just going to rip you off and pump and dump. And they're there for you every
step of the way for that. And that's what makes a community like Burger where it's fun and it's
visual and it's memes and community also have what it takes to last because we're not flying solo here.
We're not just people who've never been on Spaces before trying to run a meme coin.
We've got the whole experience of AOL behind us.
And that should make you sleep good at the end of the day if you're a burger holder.
You know, when we're here, we're going to work hard and AOL's with us every step of the way.
Well, and I don't believe that you said this
is your first spaces. You for sure have done this before. No, you do a good job. So I know,
I always ask this just because I'm curious and you may or may not have an answer. So as a, as a,
as a meme coin, so if anyone ever asks me in any token, they, when price goes down on a token, they're always wondering, what are you going to do?
And every single CTO leader or coin launcher, they get asked the same question.
What are you going to do to help the price?
And my comment back, if anyone ever were to ask me that, is like, well, why don't you just buy more?
like, well, why don't you just buy more? Then the token will go up higher. But I just am curious,
Then the token will go up higher.
just because I can't remember since last I spoke, is Berger 100% a meme coin? Or is there any
potential plans for future? It sounds like you've already done some collaborations and marketing
type stuff, which is really cool. Is there any type of utility plans or anything that you have
heard about or thinking or tinkering with at all? And you don't
have to say yes. I don't care. It doesn't matter. You can say, nope, it's a meme through and through
and that's all we are. Well, I would say if you're looking at what we have actually available right
now, we're almost a pure meme coin. We do have a cool partnership with another project called Sculptor Dex, which is built on Orderly. I don't know if
you've seen that. It's a perpdex platform that you can, oh, what's the word? Like you can brand
it for yourself. So they've built a cool one where communities can use our ref link for burger
and do their perp trading. And then any fees that are generated are given back to the
burger team to buy and burn burger with so that's sort of one utility and perplexes have been really
hot lately and with markets going down people want to wait a short so we're hoping that that
can grow and be a way that we can burn some burger and bring some utility to the token. And the sky.
That's awesome.
We have,
you know,
I don't have,
I don't know yet what other utility other than any way and every way that we
can build to burn burger to support our holders,
but there's no limit to what we can do because of the depth of experience on
the team and just
because of our motivation. So stay tuned, I guess is what I would say for that.
Well, yeah. And I like that better anyway. I hated, so being in here since 2015, 16,
and then going heavy, like 16, 17, it was all about people reading white papers and looking
for utility and none of the utility ever planned out there's people just
hanging on a roadmap hanging on what was going to be written behind sergey and a whiteboard
right behind uh i can't remember who it was but um smp and ripple and whatever other crap you know
what i mean i i lose my my train of thought with what ripple was going to do with payments and
banks but so we went from an entire like utility kind of roadmap promise thing to kind of just,
we're going to shove out whatever happens when it happens.
And I like that kind of a lot better.
It's a lot more organic.
I even like that there's not like a lot of background on the original team with Burger
and it doesn't even matter, right?
It's like, this is Burger now.
And it's a whole
completely different community than maybe it was when it first first launched right there's
obviously still some people in it um what's up dude i shouted you out i said you're probably
the biggest back you even got your banner changed to burger dude yeah dude went full on burger he
was full on usduc and now he's full-on burger i love it um but yeah dudes dudes
who got me got me into burger after that space with ogle and we kind of talked in a chat and i
was like this is the number one token on aol um not to throw shade at any of the other tokens on
aol obviously it's it's just the first token at the time right there's no other tokens on aol
um and since then i've been buying plenty more so that's
really cool most people don't really do utility with with meme coins overall and I don't think
you necessarily have to I think that you and the cousin are doing and the rest of the team are
doing exactly what you need to be doing and just focus on building community and then everything
else falls into place right yeah and I. And I mean, another benefit,
I'm just to do a tutanayas horn, America dot fund today, but, um, they have been using their fees
and revenue as they promised that they would to do constant buybacks on the burger token. So,
and that's another way that we are not just some hundred percent meme coin. Like, you know, it's,
that's another way that we are not just some hundred percent meme coin.
Like, you know, it's, it's up to them and they're,
they've been super like a faithful to do that. And, but you know,
it's, we're, we have that,
we benefit from the utility of the America.fund platform in that way too,
just as all of the currently curated tokens do. So it's a really kind of unique
setup we have with them that gives us a lot of confidence.
So now let's get into some of just like your personal opinions. So, right, I mean, and you
never said you were a trader, you never said anything like that. I mostly want to understand,
I like to get different people's perspectives and opinions
because it helps me know that I'm a delusional bull
and maybe you can settle me back down
or just give me confidence where we're going.
I guess, what's your plan?
Not burger related, not anything related,
but with the market overall,
kind of what's your outlook on where we're at
toward right now, end of year,
and where you think we're headed? And maybe you could pair it with like USD1 and World Liberty like campaigns
or what you think they're going to be doing. Where are we at, in your opinion? It is tricky,
isn't it? Because things have been so different. And when I got into this space in 2020, all you heard was the four-year cycle.
And I stumbled into crypto at the most opportune time I could have because literally from the day I bought, it was up only for months and months.
And I really took it to heart when I heard everybody say, you know, the biggest mistake that new entrants make is around tripping,
not selling the top. So I'm not even new entrance. That's, that's so me too. So I think anyone ever
even seasoned quote unquote seasoned trader I've talked to, it's like, yeah, I've lost so much
money in the past month. It's like, yeah, it's okay. It's, it's just, we've been here long
enough to know what goes back up eventually too. Right. Exactly. And so, you know, I, I, um, I care a lot about, you know, I'm not,
I'm not a 20 year old guy here to make my generational wealth, make my millions. You know,
I am just a mom who's doing this to support her family. I take my profits. I do trade. Um,
but I trade when it's something I believe in. And I, so what I meant to say was,
it was, I got very lucky with that first cycle, I rode to the top, I sold at the top.
And I, you know, have taken things smaller to my risk tolerance as we've gone. But, you know,
so then everybody was like, we'll get to do it again.
We'll get to do it again for the next four year cycle. And this one's been very, very different.
And I don't know, because the expectations we all had when Trump took office and when we got these
incredible regulatory headwinds and when we got the institutional adoption that we'd all been
waiting for so long for and we thought everything was going to be peachy keen for it to be a repeat
of 2021. And then we didn't get it. And so now I think it's, we're just starting to kind of come
to the grips, come to grips with the fact that things have changed and you have to do a little more, put a little
more care into it and find the communities, find the things that make sense, find the things that
give revenue. So if our bearings and our old framework for how we expected things to go,
oh, well, when Bitcoin goes up, then ETH goes up, then all the altcoins, you know, remember the old charts, you know, the cycle of- Yeah, it goes Bitcoin, it goes ETH, and then
majors, and then minors. Absolutely. So when that got taken out from others, we're all kind of
trying to like find our feet again. Like, okay, what does this mean now? If it's not just, you
know, throw a bunch of spaghetti at the wall, and enough of it's bound to stick that you'll, know take money out at the end of the day if that's not the case anymore then we have to we have
to put a little more care into this and so for me personally i am sticking with people where i
trust and respect the founders you know i've kind of circled in ogle's orbit for quite a few years
here you know and i found somebody oh this is somebody who's trustworthy, who has people's
best interests at heart by the evidence of his actions over the year. When he's building something,
I want to pay attention. So I, I'm not a, I'm a trader, but I'm not a technical trader.
I am a, I'm a social trader, if that makes sense. You know, I find it. It sounds like
whatever trader you are, you're better than 99.9% of people on crypto Twitter. So, and, and a mom
was sick. So like, I think maybe we just all need to go back to the drawing board and say, okay,
first off, you're dunking on 20 year olds that want to be millionaires overnight.
No, I'm just kidding. You're doing fine. No, I totally, I totally get that. I think it's completely evolved because
you think, uh, if you look at like the total two charts, so that's just, um, altcoin market cap,
um, in hindsight, it's easier to see that it's like, okay, 2021 was a top for altcoin market cap.
And we actually hit that same market cap. It just didn't feel like it because there was a top for all coin market cap and we actually hit that same market cap it just didn't
feel like it because there was a lot of different coins right and there's a lot of um i guess
extraction so people like the libra thing was kind of one of the first thing hayden davis um
people just doing it and then getting getting out right away right so it's just more more dilution
so you made an important point that finding actual communities
is the better place to kind of build your conviction.
Let's talk about XRP, for example.
I, along with tens of hundreds of tons of other people, right,
just absolutely dunked on Ripple
because it's like this, like, you know,
it's not going anywhere. And it was, you got in at 20 cents and because it's like this like you know it's it's not going anywhere
and it was you got in at 20 cents and now it's over two dollars i would have never thought if
you asked me in 2020 it's like ripple is gonna really go to where it is today um but it's just
like having that conviction having that sense of community and being in like that those diehard
spaces where people are are in it because they trust what the founders
are doing they trust the vision the mission etc um and then it eventually gets there right and
it doesn't happen like the the low was 2021 the high ended up being so far at least 2025 so it's
like that's a people have to widen their horizons and time frames and then when that time does come
around it's like yes please take some off the table to support your family, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
And that doesn't happen in a day or an hour.
And it's sad to me how much people have kind of internalized that that's the behavior that works the best.
And that's what we want to change.
We want to say, no, you know what?
You can stick around.
You can build a community. You can be a believer believer you can do your due diligence and have some discernment
and find the people worth listening to and then see what they like and what they share and um and
you can still make it the days of being able to make it in crypto are not over not by a long shot
especially with what's happening with USD1 and everything they're
building. And, you know, we know a lot of it is not public yet, but somebody who can read between
the lines can see where this is going and see how big and important it is going to be. And I truly
believe with America.fund, with World Liberty, with USD1, we are early. This is our chance to
be early again. You know, throw out the four-year cycle, throw out1, we are early. This is our chance to be early again.
You know, throw out the four-year cycle, throw out whatever.
Like there's always a pocket of opportunity.
And this is one of them, I am convinced.
One really cool thing I'd like to kind of shed light on is I have always had a hard time.
I'm actually just kind of a light bulb's clicking for me on this space.
But I've always had a hard time when I buy a token. a light bulb's clicking for me on this space but i've
always had a hard time when i buy a token i feel like if i sell any of that token i am out of the
community right i feel like i'm just gone um one cool thing i'm just realizing is if you buy burger
or any america fund token right? I just am realizing this
because I'm looking at the points spread or program.
I have a lot of America Fund tokens
that I've just bought.
I haven't sold.
But you're rewarded more points from farming
if you just through transaction volume,
that's buys and sells.
So I think you can support the entire ecosystem.
So America Fund and every single token on America fund,
even if you do sell some of your tokens,
right?
You can just actively buy and trade or sell and create some volume across
the board.
And then while doing that,
you're helping the ecosystem generate fees from volume.
And you're also earning points from fees generated from volume.
So I think that's an interesting thing that is in place right now from
America fund. And I think that's an interesting thing that is in place right now from America Fund.
And I'm just realizing that now,
because I think if I have over 2% of burger,
if I sell any of that,
like I feel like I'm just killing burger, right?
But, and I'm not saying I'm selling burger,
I'm just giving you an example.
Like if I, I know enough now to what I should sell
and how much I should sell each time, right?
It's like, I'm not the one that's gonna clip out 1%, 2%, et cetera, in a chart.
But I think that's important for people to realize.
It's like, yeah, profit-taking is fine, especially when you have something like America Fund that can give you and reward people that are just actively trading on America Fund itself.
So you can pay yourself and earn points and buy back into the chart and
and sell when you need to and those fees that you just generated are being used by aol to buy back
burger to buy back ecosystem tokens so it's it really is kind of you know it's not just one or
the other it's everything that you do is building and supporting and you can be part of the america.fund
family holding and trading
any number of these coins. So yeah, I hear you. That's the coolest part about Web3. It's being
paid to participate, right? So Web2 is all you have to pay subscriptions or whatever to actually
get access versus with Web3 and things like America Fund and you name it, whatever it is,
if you're just an active user on the platform, active user in the community,
you're rewarded for just being part of that group.
And that's kind of the flip side.
I'm sure you've gotten airdrops before for doing whatever.
I just got a Monad airdrop, and I literally didn't do anything to deserve that Monad airdrop
other than maybe, I don't know what the criteria was but it's like there's just like
there's a lot of free money out there in this space for just using different ecosystems and
platforms right yeah and finding ones that i mean like america fun where there is a program right
now that has um stuff set aside on the table for people to just
participate is is really cool and back in 2019 early 20 when people are finding um or just farming
defy protocols um you used to not want to be vocal about it because then you would dilute your farm
so with this i've been farming on on AOL for about a month now.
But I'm thinking, it's like, you know what, maybe it's more beneficial to talk about it because then AOL price can also maybe go up more.
And I don't think it's really diluting the farm.
It's basically just opening up people's eyes that there is a farm potential here that can fly well back into the token and every single token on AOL.
Right, because this isn't your traditional like DeFi LP farming.
This is sharing in the revenue.
And it blows my mind that none of these other launchpads
have tried this approach before.
Because like if you think about,
think about how much better it is
that AOL stakers receive the percentage of the fees
that come from things rather than creator fees, which create a whole
host of negative incentives, or even, you know, just the founders get all the fees like you've
seen with PumpFun. And, you know, people have their opinions about that. But like, I mean,
how cool is it that the folks behind America.Fun realized like, hey, we could have you staking
where you don't get diluted, where you receive these fees for buying and holding the token.
And it just perpetuates and perpetuates and rolls over.
So I think that's extremely cool that they set it up that way as a launchpad that's learning
from the mistakes of everything that they've seen in the space over the last year, year
and a half, and iterating on it to do something that's going to really make a difference
for the people and for the entire community.
Yeah, no, I'm going to look up
how many tokens are bonding.
So a lot of people these days are like on a dev arc, right?
They're just chain launching tons of different tokens
frequently and that's where we're seeing
so many like 50,000 market cap toppers
that just bond and then die.
And because we have a lot of people gambling thinking like this one's the one, like this one's different, you know.
And there isn't really a lot of like organic or people flowing back to or people like really wanting to build communities.
It's kind of just like a quick run with the current TikTok narrative or whatever.
current TikTok narrative or whatever and then it just is going to die as soon as that thing dies
And then it just is going to die as soon as that thing dies out.
out um I think it's really important to mention that people are going to flow back to communities
in real communities building I think um after like the Trump thing happened we had a lot of people
like a fallout right so many people just were like f this shit I'm done with memes after it
obviously it ran up and then people were mad because it they missed their entry at five dollars or whatever that went to 80 or something and then
but the people that bought 80 thinking it's going to go to a thousand or whatever they just just
died right so we had some fallout after that and then after like the the um la made cabal and aiden
ross etc and then so after that kind of stuff happened, people started to flow back into communities.
So I think we're going to see that again.
And community coins started to win this summer.
Like there was some really awesome action
and people building real communities over the summer.
There's some that are starting to come back right now.
And I think we're going to see that slow,
like these cycles, it goes up and down, right?
But I think people are going to be sick of just chain launches, chain 50 K market cap toppers
and flow back into real communities building, especially when they see that they're building
and still active, even when times look, look tough across the timeline. Right.
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it takes a little bit of time and sometimes it's a little
bit of growing pains to like teach people different behaviors.
But it's like if you keep using, you know, if you keep if you're disincentivized from the negative behavior for long enough, you're going to go back to better behaviors that honestly give everybody a better outcome at the end of the day.
at the end of the day. Like a coin that steadily grows for a year and reaches this huge market cap
and lots and lots of people have the opportunity to win. Although, you know, we know that everybody
can't win. There's kind of the math of it. But like everybody having a chance to win,
it's just so much better. And I agree with you, like the communities that keep building,
keep putting in the work, they're going to be the ones to win after we kind of go through the growing pains of unlearning some of these behaviors that benefited people
over the last little while. Yeah. And I mean, having been in quite a bit of group chats and
stuff, you can just tell like sentiment is like, I'm just sick of getting farmed. You know, like I
even told all my chats I'm in, it's like, hey, we should do this or run this up or this or that.
And I was just telling him, I'm not really looking for a newly, you know what I mean?
I want real community.
So I'm actively paying attention right now to who is active and loud on the timeline, even when things are bad.
Who's gone completely silent and kind of disappeared?
silent um and kind of disappeared and i think that usd1 um hasn't really and world liberty
stuff hasn't really seen its actual kind of pump yet um and that's why i mean literally anything
i'm buying on chain with the exception of maybe one or two things which i'm not not going to say
here um i think usd1 is going to be like the next narrative. I mean, I'm in some privacy stuff because I think that's really important.
But USD1 is a place I'm positioning for.
So I could talk on and on about this.
Hopefully people didn't really think we were going for two hours.
I don't want to kill your first space.
I mean, I don't want to make you never want to do one ever again.
It's been fun.
It's flown by.
Yeah. Well, maybe we'll It's flown by. Yeah.
Well, maybe we'll kind of close it off here.
But is there any, and you did great, by the way.
I can't believe this was your first one.
I think you're lying.
I think you're an OG that's been doing these spaces once a month forever.
But what do you want to cap off and tell everyone who's listening in right now or to the recording after?
I guess I would say reframe the way you're thinking about Burger.
Like, don't just think we're just another meme coin.
Remember that we're the first coin on this really revolutionary new thing called America.fun.
And we're a culture coin.
We're not, you know, it's about American culture and the American
ethos and everything that Ogle has so eloquently talked about in all the spaces and places that
he's tried to communicate that to us. And then we're a community coin. So don't just think of
it as like a meme coin. Give us a chance. Come hang out in Telegram. Come join our new X community.
Watch where we share other places that we're going to be and what we're going to be doing
and see if you can't have some fun and make some money along with it.
No, I like that. I like how, so sometimes when I hop on space with people, it's like instantly
they talk about, yeah, our token price is this, we're going to a billion market cap and this,
and your whole ethos and stuff is like, yeah, this is an awesome community, come be a part of it,
right? And I think that is where the shift is going to be and happen.
And yeah, I'm really excited to hold burger.
I just joined the new community that you guys popped up.
Thank you so much for doing this.
And then AOL, thanks so much for popping on too.
I see you listening in.
I'm going to, so I don't know who else is part of which community in America Fund.
I want to speak to, so I want to do this every single Friday.
Again, I'm going to shout out my conviction for America Fund.
I want to see if I can get Valor and Patriot and U.S. and all the other, there's only what,
two more tokens on America Fund right now, which is good because it's a good time to
kind of consolidate.
But I want to try to talk with them.
So if you know any of those communities, I'm in their DMs right now, Patriot Valor, America the Game.
I would love to start talking with them and see who I can get on for next Friday.
But appreciate you all.
You did awesome at Spaces, by the way, Naomi.
And yeah, we'd love to have you up again.
But yeah yeah full confidence
in burger cousin great content too that you're pushing out and I'll try to be more active in
the community as to uh to going forward I I'm in a lot of different group chats so I usually just
go in and do my GMs but I'll try to go pop some in in the burger one sure we'd love to have you
all right thanks everyone have a good weekend we'll talk soon bye
