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$APEMAN CTO: @MarlonPruz Interview! #FineArtMfer
Recorded: May 27, 2025 Duration: 2:24:43Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion, Marlon shares insights on his artistic journey, recent partnerships with hotel brands, and the evolving landscape of NFTs, emphasizing community engagement and the potential for growth in the crypto art space.
Full Transcription
How's it going, Purple Hill?
Welcome, welcome, welcome, everyone.
Just kind of getting set up here, so bear with me.
Marlon will be rolling through in about a half an hour, I take it.
Marlon will be rolling through in about a half an hour, I take it.
But, uh, just getting some things put together here.
Having a cigarette.
Hopefully my coho shows up here in a bit.
But, yeah, let's just wing it.
I've never talked to Marlon before.
So, it should be interesting.
Keep it organic.
Welcome, uh, based Braden.
Welcome, welcome.
I don't do the music thing.
Bear with me.
Yeah, Bubba.
Bubba. Yeah. oh man i thought it was in my earbud okay now i have a glitch great let's do this all right let's try again
can you hear me
yep let that earbud is off
actually hold up
you're good
you did too much
preparing for it to work
that's pretty
hilarious of course that would happen.
Would it sound terrible like this in case I have to rock it like this?
No, you sound pretty good.
Alright, well, we'll do it live.
Let's see.
What, does that just come through your phone or laptop?
It's just my phone right now.
I don't know why my earbud's doing this.
Yeah, okay.
Well, you sound fine coming through your phone.
Now I'm in my earbud.
Here we go.
There was everyone.
There's not much of a difference in sound.
Cool.
Good.
How you doing, bud?
I'm doing all right.
So we'll see who all shows up here.
I'm doing better.
Thinking about doing a giveaway here just for the first 30 minutes before Marlon shows up.
For only people that are in the room, it's going to be really easy.
Literally. shows up for only people that are in the room it's going to be really easy literally uh i need it to be like all in one bubble instead of like everyone saying something in the purple pill
yeah like comment in like i'll put something in the purple pill and then you comment on that
comment on the video yeah that way i can do the the wheel thing the random wheel name thing uh faster takes me forever
but i want it just to be the first one i shoot off for people who showed up early and that are
actually in here um it's the really only parameters i want to make for the giveaway i don't want to
make it anything else what's's up, Blackwater?
We got Blackwater in the house.
Welcome, welcome.
You sniped that.
I was staring at that MF, that fine art MF he's wearing for days.
I'm glad he got it.
It's like someone's going to buy this thing. I did use so dirty, but I was protecting it.
I didn't have it, but I had the money to get that crazy,
and you're talking about it.
And I was like, no, they don't.
No, somebody doesn't.
That crazy guy is awesome.
Yeah, because you were shilling it,
and I didn't want somebody else to get it because he wanted it.
So I went on it and got it because he wanted it.
Oh my friend, don't do that.
But you should hold it.
It is quite rare.
It is quite rare.
I do dig it.
Alright, let's see this.
Pull up this name.
Alright.
Jungle Bay is going
crazy also
I saw an offer for
242 I was like
yep it's going higher
oh it's still way low it's going to go
much higher
exactly
all right let's see here I'm going to put in the purple pill
bear with me
the first fine art mf or giveaway
make sure i post the correct one
i don't know how many
um because i got five more this morning all right this is i'll do this again just come here fire no it's cool chrome come up here for a
minute please unless you're busy that sounded really mean sorry take that back chrome if you
would like to come up here for a minute that would be awesome let's do it that way
pretty please there we go
good evening sir buddy are you oh whoa
yes how you're doing how are you doing today i'm bad i worked today but i got paid for it so okay
there we go so i'm gonna do oh sorry go ahead no you're good what's up
i'm gonna do a giveaway i was starting to type it out but he said you were here so i stopped i'm
gonna start again for the first fine art mf giveaway, but it's just for people in the room.
It's going to be in the purple pill.
It's going to say giveaway.
It's this exact one.
Let's see.
Just like comment on this post.
And stay in the room. and you must be in the room
yeah so sad that you had to make that clear
must be in the room
oh really funny
it's really funny to watch in real time uh market makers hunting down a liquidation
price right now i don't know i've just been watching bitcoin right now and it was cooking
cooking cooking cooking like 109 110 000 and then just like oh just started just caving and i was like oh i was like oh somebody's getting hunted down
i was like oh buddy and then i go on twitter and i go on fucking x and what do i see the this
fucking i don't know maybe fucking guys have seen him that the jane this james winn guy
oh straight larp this guy's a fucking LARP ass motherfucker
and it just hurts my soul to see him
post shit. Because that
motherfucker literally
led his fucking
meme coin community
that he had this moon pig
on Solana
shit, you know.
And literally
fucking drains out of his community for god knows how much goes
and dumps it into hyper liquid into some just ridiculously leveraged long gets
annihilated for like minus i think he was down like minus 16 million right right? And then it goes, oh, I'm done. Okay.
And swaps it, takes it all out, and then comes back in and is like, no, no.
I got it this time.
I'm going to do it.
And goes for a dummy short and gets annihilated again.
And now he's back at it, and he's about to get annihilated for a third time.
So I'm just – So it's just...
Giveaways posted in the jumbo.
Sorry for your frustration, Chrome.
No, it's not frustration.
It's just funny to watch that I'm just like watching the candle movement.
Yeah, the LARP will be LARPing.
I'm going to start putting these names on the list of people who are in here,
and I'll remove them if they didn't enter,
but that'll save me time, actually.
I'm hearing two denims.
You're hearing two denims?
Yeah, I'm hearing, for some reason, I'm hearing, like, I'm hearing denim twice.
That's weird.
Oh, it might.
Did you have your volume turned up on your denim account?
Oh, no, I figured it out.
No, I figured it out.
For some reason, I was hitting play in the control center, and it was, like, playing back the stream.
That's funny. you saw my denim
account was in here that's really funny that was uh my wife you probably just spooked her up to go
inside and tell her it's okay oh yeah no no no no she's way good that was that was me being stupid
oh here she is no it was no it's not you no it's not you. No, it's not you. That's funny. She just came in.
Yeah, my bad, Mrs. Denim.
My bad.
She's laughing.
It's funny.
Came in there freaking out.
That's pretty funny.
So don't talk shit about it. i didn't talk shit about eight men
because the denim is not denim tonight the real denim is actually on the account all right
there's bug i'm gonna like i said yeah but uh sorry man you can talk about uh the market or
whatever i'm jabbering over here and typing.
No, no, you're good.
Hold on one second. I'm typing in Boverchat.
It's a JDZ.
Everybody pulling him tonight. Yeah, when Marlon gets gets here when my co-host gets here
um most of the people i'm gonna have stepped down just so there's no hot mics and such
random interruptions at least for a little while
but no i'm glad you're up here right now because i'm like going through this giveaway i'm trying to like do this fire style so i want to have people preloaded it's all good i know how to
bull post when i get kicked down bro it might this shit might this shit might go down these
motherfuckers might hunt james down god bless God fucking bless, dude. Positive, positive, positive.
No, I do.
It's positive. No, dude, I love it.
Are you kidding me? This is phenomenal.
I know, I know. That's
hilarious, though, but yeah.
It's so terrible how LARP's a LARP
and then call
out others.
And that goes for all of them, but especially
this James dude like over
Bitcoin and stuff and then rug and
people on Solana
but it's so crazy how Bitcoin
has been like I'll get a Coinbase
notification about
this has hit this all time high
I go look at it and there is no
all time high I see it's all
the way back down to what it's been last week
so crazy how it moves so quickly All-time high. I see it all the way back down to what it's been last week.
So crazy how it moved so quickly.
Bro, I'm telling you, I'm so used to this guy.
This shit is ridiculous.
I'm just so numb to it now.
Price goes up, price goes down. Yeah, it's been fluctuating between $10,000 to $20,000.
Oh, we got Marlon in the house.
Here we go.
Let's go.
Let's get him up here.
Well,
I was putting his names on this list, but come on up here, Marlon.
Just looking at a couple things, trying to give away some of your beautiful art and making
sure I've got the right names on there. Okay.
Marlon.
Amen.
Wasn't expecting it quite yet, but I'm glad you're here, friend.
Sup?
Not much, not much.
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you meet you finally nice to meet y'all well you told me uh was i supposed to go like at 10 30 or something yeah dude no welcome welcome welcome um i just
fired it up really for technical reasons make sure everything's going giving away a little bit of art
uh i like to do things organically and just on the fly anyway, so I'm glad you're here, dude.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
For sure, glad to be here.
It's been, I haven't done a spaces in a while, so I like to get a lot of things happen and
then have spaces, so I have like a variety of things to talk about
yeah man yeah i like i i prepared a little bit um but i guess like let's start a little bit
that hotel convention you just were doing i saw that uh you want to talk about because that looked
really cool the uh the tiles you were doing and it looked like windows into the skyline or whatever.
And seemed really, really cool.
I know you seem like you had a film crew
and you're doing some editing and such.
You posted on your timeline.
Yeah, I'm just grinding IRL as an artist in Miami,
securing a bunch of stuff and getting in the right rooms and now I want to like film
everything how it deserves to be filmed get my content game up so that more brands and like
not even more not even just more brands but also like other bigger artists take you more seriously
when they see like oh this guy's like up this content and the clients he's working with are like
getting crazier and crazier.
And I'm just like,
just tired of filming,
filming stuff on my iPhone.
So yeah,
I'm like poured a bunch of money into getting it filmed and all like
investments into talking to the,
but even when you see meme coins,
it's like, what's the number one thing
everyone talks about with meme coins?
The content is crazy.
We're all meme coins, you know?
That's bullish, man.
Investing in yourself. I'm excited to see the content
that comes out of that.
Yeah. I spent all day today
recording,
but I do a lot of live art, and I got booked to do this invite-only contemporary travel convention, where it's, like, it's not even, about, where James Bond stays in the movies, some crazy eight-star hotel in the Swiss Alps.
Yeah, all these companies are huge,
but you never heard of that type.
But it's also like the Ritz-Carlton was there,
reps from Ritz-Carlton, reps from Nobu Hotel,
reps from Leake Design Hotel.
And I was...
Yeah, the whole idea was like a big wall and it was tiled so it's like a whole giant composition but each piece works on its own and I sat down the design team and they're like how
could you make this happen I'm like it's like a skyline and each tile is a window they're like
brilliant they thought they're like coming to me like it
was like some impossible task like i know this is an impossible task for you to come up with
or i'm like windows in a building they're like okay that's perfect and um but then halfway through
i started actually drawing the hotel logos in the wall because i thought i was like doing like the
flowers and my eyeballs or whatever
I was drawing. And then I was like, Oh, I'm gonna start drawing.
I'm gonna start adding like everyone that I want to work with.
And I started putting in the logos and all the reps just started coming to me.
Like I didn't even have to walk around. Like they started coming to me.
And I was like, you know, I was like,
I'm gonna put like this resort in the Maldives. Boom.
Okay.
Connected with them. Like, I'm gonna put like this hotel in London.
Yeah.
That dude from Abu Dhabi, the W hotel from, cause there was like a lot of reps from a
lot of the W hotels and they're like all over the world.
But the one from Abu Dhabi was the one that ends up getting the tiles.
Like, yo, we gotta get you out here.
Like, let's do this shit.
It's like, yeah.
So I got a stack
of business cards that i have to like at least 100 business cards that i'm gonna email that's
another thing they give me their their business cards but no one ends up really following up but
like i'm gonna go spend the entire day following up with every single business card and we're gonna
lock some stuff down and you know while i'm in those hotel rooms working on these with these
big hotels i'm like on twitter like working on the big hotels. I'm on Twitter working on the NFT stuff.
So it's like every single second is productive.
Man, it sounds like you came back from the Amazon on fire, my friend.
Re-centered, focused.
You want to talk a little bit about that?
When I first saw you say in that one room, you were like,
anyone have tips on how to survive in the amazon
and i i chuckled to myself and then i thought he's probably serious and then it was like 48 hours
later 36 hours later i saw your first post you're in the amazon i was like this is insane you want
to talk a little bit about going from there to the the hotel convention or whatever like how that
experience was yeah you pretty much called it
and a couple people like kind of mentioned the same thing to me but yeah i channeled a lot of
things on the amazon and i was tested a lot and i was like oh i just realized that i'm pretty much
in this bulletproof i'm just pretty much indestructible to an extent, like, you know, a normal extent. But
I really feel like my time will be
like anything can happen to me, but my time is not yet.
And I just went
like full discomfort and I just realized that I can handle anything.
And I channeled
the full force of Amazon while I was out there and embraced it and I just like
was in the was in the trenches for real for real for real for real I'm really
I'm really good in any hood, is what I learned.
good in any hood what I learned
Man, seeing you paint with just the natural environment
where you had to use some of what looked like possibly dinner
to paint with there,
and the ultimate outcome of that piece of artwork you gave to,
I want to say chief, that's not the right term, my friend.
That beautiful piece of artwork you gave to that gentleman, that was crazy.
I saw a little video of a butterfly landed on your hand or someone's hand,
and you started incorporating it into the art.
into the art like i was following along while you were there what you posted and i it just seemed
I was following along while you were there, while you posted.
like a tiny little snapshot of what that must have been like that just like surviving out there
that's um it's impressive man
yeah i was i was drawing and that butterfly just landed on the painting and just like went on my
hand and stayed there and i just drew that butterfly like
all night on my hand and it was pretty crazy but yeah there's two parts to where i stayed i stayed
at the village which is like seven hours by boat down the amazon so i would take like four
i take four planes then i had to take like this banana cargo truck that was dropping off packages like on every village picking up
other like indigenous families so it was like stopping every like 20 minutes and that was like
five hours in that truck so four planes five hours in that truck and then seven hours
on the boat down the amazon and then i get to like the yawanawa village
which a refique refique and all that artist he has this whole collection called like down the Amazon, and then I get to, like, the Yawanawa village,
which Rafiq, Rafiq Andal, that artist, he has this whole collection called, like,
Winds of the Yawanawa, and he, like, supposedly donated millions of dollars to the Yawanawa,
but I ain't seen that shit.
They have no millions of dollars.
I don't think anyone there heard of Rafiq Andal, whatever the fuck,
like, the Winds of Yawanawa collection.
I was with that tribe.
And that dude has to replace all the wood in the village every seven years because it's made out of wood. So they're trying to rebuild everything out of bricks and concrete.
They have, like, GoFundMe pages.
Like, they ain't seen no Rafiq Andal, the Winds of Yawanawa money.
I don't know what the fuck that shit was.
But that's who I stayed with the yawanawas and um what was i saying uh yeah so it was like the village so they have
their you know their houses there and then the the hunt site is like three hours away so the village
is seven hours away and then to go to the hunt sites another three hours so we stay in the village for like four or five days and then i stay like a week and a half at the
hunting site and uh dad is like treacherous ass trek because half the way the water is too shallow
so you have to push the boat like miles with all the stuff in it and like all the women come to
everyone from the tribe rolls out like
on this crazy and then you know they got the rifles on the boat with the face paint it's like
full apocalypto mode it's sick um but the thing is like once you get to the camp once you get to
the campsite you that's you that's when you just put you're just putting like the hammock on on
the tree and you're just like out there in the elements and then to go hunt you have to go another
two hours and then once you go hunt the animals like you can't go back to the site because you're
right.
You're like in the shit.
So you're up for two nights straight chasing animals, like no sleep.
You're just up nonstop running.
And you don't, you might not even catch anything.
So yeah, I mean that.
And then like we ran out of drinking water.
I was drinking Brown River. This is like, well, also well also what taught me like yo i can like withstand a lot i was drinking
straight up brown river water and i was eating just like you saw that clip when i was you mentioned
that clip where i was like painting with the alligator blood yeah yeah like when i when i
got up from painting that it was like like where all the animals were being prepared.
I had like 30 ticks on me.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, so there's a lot.
There's so much that you don't even think of.
Because you first got to hunt the animal.
Then you got to carry the animal.
And when you're carrying the animal, all these ticks and fleas and flesh-fammy bacteria, it's all going on you.
Like every animal has it
and the women are the ones that prepare all the animals so you see like little 13 year old girls
like taking the fur off the animals and like skinning the animal and we're like we caught a
tapir which is like low-key endangered so i had like endangered tapir but like like they're not
like yo this is endangered they're not like yo this is endangered
they're just like yo we gotta eat so what you gonna tell what fuck you gonna talk to us about
like endangered or not but that was crazy you know you got chainsaw the head off chainsaw the animal
in half uh skin it well and while you're skinny you're getting covered in ticks uh but then there's
like the whole thing where it's like these,
these like nature people, they, they flex it. Like, yo, look at me.
Like I'm eating raw meat. Like no one eats raw meat.
Like they're so meticulous about overcooking their food because they don't,
they don't play with that shit. But there's like this thing where it's like,
eat raw liver, eat raw meat. Like that is the dumbest thing you can do.
Like even when they, cause I met this,
I met this tribe where they were on tour in Miami,
and my homies have a property, and they were, like, staying at the property.
Even when they would eat, like, steak, they would – it has to be extremely well done.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Yeah, and just going through all that.
And then, yeah, so imagine I come back to the city with all that.
I'm like, yo, i can do anything like i can
withstand anything i'm not scared of shit i bet man i bet you feel indestructible after that that's
i've had some adventures like i live up here right near glacier national park but that's like
comfort man i can go to like a diner you know what i mean like being out there having to hunt
your food getting covered in ticks i've never experienced anything like that, man. That's crazy.
And you touched on Artpocalypse. I know when you came back, you said you really wanted to put some time in that.
You want to talk a little bit about that project?
Yeah, I'm still working on that. It's just it was a free claim for all fine art MFers. So you go, you submit your fine art MFer to the Artpocalypse, and then I get it on my end from the form that you submit it to.
And then I customize, I kind of make my own type of Artpocalypseer based on the fine art MFer that you submit.
And then I put it into this form form and I update the metadata into the
artpocalypse collection and that's like a free one of one that you get so I'm
like more than halfway done it's like it's almost like 900 items so and I've
been doing them one by one by one it's like it's kind of one of these things
that took taking way longer than I expected. But like, I, if I say I'm going to do something, I do it.
Like I get it done. So I'm not like launching,
I'm not really like launching any other collections until all of this is done.
And then I'll maybe like, we'll mint some, some like more art,
but until all this is, our apocalypse is done, like, I'm not going to upload.
Yeah.
Well, speaking of that, I'd like to highlight your one of one right now with Transient Labs
that you have.
Don't you have a piece right now that's just beautiful, giant piece?
yeah it's a canvas uh it's kind of like consciousness constructed around like a it's
Yeah, it's a canvas.
got i have a whole like definition for it i posted it on my page just now but i have a couple things
i still have like my also on my knifey collection that i it's like my first collection that's still
that's still up and that's like my graffiti tag That's how I get up with the knifey.
And that started off by NFT Journey and then MFers,
and now the 101s.
But yeah, I have this one.
It's called Soul Twin, the 101 that we're talking about.
It's kind of...
I'll just rant if I just say what it's really about here but you can
greet it please do I mean you're like you're more than welcome to rant my
friend that's what I was kind of hoping I really want to pick your brain this is
very exciting for me so I just randomly stumbled upon your art give or take
January and then I haven't been so fascinated with an artist and finding
about a Henry Darger in Chicago or something.
So I'm having a hard time not fanboying out a little bit here.
But if you want to rant, please do.
I posted what you're talking about up in the jumbo.
For sure.
Let me see.
I can just read the description. Let me see. I can just read the description.
Let's see.
So, I mean, basically, it's like soul twin.
It's kind of like my consciousness twin.
This figure stands as both an individual and a collective mirror,
an anatomical vessel overflowing with dreams, fears, histories, and technologies.
It is not simply a body, but a cathedral of thought
constructed from the ever-streaming data of the human experience. Every inch of the form is etched
with layered iconography, ranging from ancient symbology and mythological creatures to industrial
remnants and modern mythos. The eyes peer outward, yet they emerge from within, revealing the smile
of awareness coiled in paradox, joy and dread, innocence and complexity, mechanical and
organic. Betty Boop clings
to the Corinthian columns beside frogs
in ritual procession
when a cruise ship erupts
from a waterfall shaped
like ribcage, suggesting both escapism
and vulnerability.
And also, I didn't write in the
description, it's kind of just like the fleeting
nature of material things.
Like, you know, people buying yachts and all this.
They don't stay around forever.
Hello?
They don't stay around forever, Marlon?
What?
Things.
No, I like that.
So it's a fleeting material things are fleeting that's cool yeah that's just like i
like that's what that boat kind of symbolizes you can't beat you're not going to beat the
the water always wins basically um yeah so this is our projection consciousness expanding beyond
the mind into the built and symbolic environment. The inner world becomes the world outside.
Each detail reflects an aspect of identity, emotional maps, inherited myths, the rhythm
of blood, and how we value material objects. Together they reveal how our inner narratives
construct the frameworks of society and reality itself. Consciousness here is not confined to the
skull. It is a forced sculpting culture, memory, and meaning in continuous feedback loops.
So as you can see, the heart has the columns coming in and out in this feedback loop with the heart and the blood pumping.
Same thing with the ribcage.
The columns are intertwining and just making this.
And then you have the hand.
One hand is the spiritual, and, one hand is like the spiritual
and the other hand is like the material
and like network spirituality.
And like each, you know,
you have like the dichotomy of like spiritual
and economy and the law of the universe
of when it comes to like abundance mindset and what is money like does
the universe really go by money because people are like the universe isn't rewarding me but who
says like the universe even goes by like universe doesn't you might not even know what like your
money is but so yeah ultimately the work invites viewers to not only observe, but recognize, to see themselves within
the dense architecture of thought and to understand that what we
project into the world is in fact a living surface of our collective awareness.
Wow. That's beautifully
put. That's really cool, man.
Yeah, it's hard for me to memorize all that, but yeah, I get it.
I really put it into words, like speaking. I'm not really the best.
I just let, like when people tell me, I ask me, what's my art about?
I just say, I can like show you better than I can tell you.
That's, that's a good way to put it so you would i i had
seen that you talked about like if you could do that as a mural you would and i was kind of
wondering like uh you know if you could create a mural like anywhere in the world with like no
limits like where would it be like what story what story would you tell through it you know what i
mean like is is that the piece you think you would do right now?
Something like it.
I really just want to do a big wall somewhere in public.
I have done them before.
A lot of my walls are in private places or clients.
But to lock down a good public wall,
you have to fight so much like graffiti other graffiti
artists and there's this like this hierarchy that you always have to you always like swimming
against or you could just paint something and some people go over it but another thing yeah
i don't know that even just being in the amazon just fortified my intuition, I don't really doubt myself anymore at all.
And it's like, yeah, just trust the divine timing of everything.
And when you're ready, everything will fall into place.
But that's kind of what I'm doing now.
I'm kind of just trying to be prepared with everything,
you know,
have all the content ready.
Let me see.
Have all the content ready,
have my website,
you know,
up to date.
Like I just redid my whole website too,
super professionally.
I feel like that's been helping a lot. Just kind of getting,
getting me through the selection process with these clients.
So I'm just staying ready like for the inevitable
catalysts
when it comes
And when that wall comes or whatever the web like wanting to do
I'll be ready
My maybe I just haven't done it. I'm just not there yet
But I've done a lot.
For sure.
I don't even know how old you are, man.
How old are you?
Man, I'm 41, so almost 42.
You've got a journey ahead of you, man.
You've already accomplished so much.
It's impressive, man.
I'm thoroughly impressed.
Thanks, dude. Yeah, there's always more to do. I just got this gift, and I don't take it for granted.
So I spend every moment just using it. I definitely want to do some murals for the Yawanawas.
I spoke to them, do some stuff in their village.
I like doing murals.
I did, like, I said I lived in the favela for two months in Brazil,
doing murals for everybody there.
I did murals for narco traffickers and little old ladies.
So, like, I've been around, and I've been in scary places,
so I'm not, like, I'm ready.
Like, I like doing murals more, like, in hectic situations.
How did all that come about?
Sorry to just jump in.
I'll fangirl over Marlon.
Like, how did all that come out where you, like, went over there?
Like, is it just, like, idea popped in your head and you like went over there like is it just like idea popped
in your head and you're like i'm gonna do this opportunity came by or did i miss that uh i yeah
i when i when i get scared to do something i do it pretty much because like if i'm scared to do
something that means like i actually want to do it it's almost like a gut feeling that i should do
it because i'm scared to go.
I don't know.
I was, like, hearing a lot of things.
My friend went to Rio and he was telling me crazy stories.
I'm like, that sounds like – and I'm half Argentinian, so it's, like,
next-door neighbor, but I never went to Brazil before that.
So I'm like, I'm going to go to the favelas, and it was insane.
I get that.
Go ahead.
No, I love when the butterfly landed on your hand when you were drawing.
That was so divine.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Butterflies are low-key vultures.
They're just flies with like really nice
wings like they're like they're like the first to go like when there's like an animal dies or like
an animal takes a shit or something the butterfly is like the one of the first animals there
who knew they were vicious no they're vicious they are they're actually like nasty, but that's the thing. Like it just, I'm really not,
not the sensitive to bugs at all. I wasn't that much before, but now I was like, yeah, like
I don't care. Like I'll live with roaches if I need to. Like that's what, that's what outside
is. But there's enough other, when you're in the jungle, the thing is, these like,
pests become a problem because when you're in a house,
but when you're in the jungle, there's enough things
that balance the other things out.
Like,
in the natural way.
So the things don't really get out of hand. That's why
you, like, I'll have a ton of ticks
on me if I'm around the dead animals, but
when I'm back at the cabin, like,
there's no ticks because there's's, like, enough spiders to eat
the ticks.
That's wild.
Yeah, but, yeah,
like, it was insane, yeah, when the
butterfly just happened to land on the one hand,
like, the hand that I was drawing with.
Yeah, it was definitely,
I don't know,
like, Forrest told me, taught't know. Forest taught me a lot.
Told me a lot.
It became one.
And it granted me super armor.
Hell yeah.
Good energy.
Good energy.
For sure.
Animals pick up on all that, like, way more heightened.
I think some of us are, you know, definitely pick up on energy, you know, and we're learning to.
I definitely feel like, especially when you have those connections to, you know, Mother Earth and nature and, you know, being out like that, like, it does increase your connectedness, you know, to everything.
And, you know know that's awesome
yeah and it's also just shifted in the way like what i think is what i think of it as cool
like you know you see like i never really thought i was never impressed by like
crypto influencers like i bought 20 houses i bought about this. I bought this. I bought this.
I got girls.
Like, bro, can you go to the Amazon and feed your tribe seven hours deep with no resources?
Like, that's cool.
Like, can you survive with ticks all over you and bugs?
I got back with, like, over a thousand bug bites.
Like, can you, like, are you, like, if you can't go there and do all that, like, well, fuck your stupid ass Lambo.
To, you know, to, like, whoever thinks that makes you alpha, it's like, all right, bro.
Listen, I'm listening silently and Marlon. I'm so, dude, I'm so glad you spoke up about that
because that's one of the most annoying things
on like crypto Twitter that just,
I have to like close the app and just go outside
and look at a tree because I'm like,
thank God I am not as vain and self-important
as one of these Lambo bros.
Like, oh, like, it's just so, it just gets so old.
Yeah.
In that piece, that one I just minted, that 101, that's what that yacht in the waterfall
like represents.
It's pretty much that idea of that.
Yeah.
Like the forest will overtake whatever dumb ass material thing that you think
is anything um but yeah i want to do like a kol survivor that's that that should be
i'm gonna host like the crypto kol survivor show send them to amazon
bro like post that lambo, like, bro,
I'll skin you and eat you, like,
literally.
I know how to do that.
That's great.
See, that's, I knew
I liked you.
I'll just wear KOL as, like,
a first coat.
That's my Amazon fit.
Some of them are cool.
I'm just messing around.
I see all these guys that are fashion bros.
You're only really into fashion because you don't live in the forest
like if the only thing you really wear in the forest is like a long sleeve and like cargo pants
like if you're wearing like some dumb fashion like accessory like that's gonna get caught in a branch
and you know i've i've heard that i read it in a book somewhere that they were like you know
if there were no other humans on the face of the planet, would you wear the exact clothes you're wearing right now? Or would you adapt a more comfortable and functional style? Like, why do you choose to wear what you wear, etc? And I was like, damn, you know?
yeah uh i also like what i really really got into there is like uh body painting because they
they use this fruit called like jenny bapel and that's what that's what i used to like paint my
whole they painted my whole face like that and i brought my i happened to just bring my henna so
i was like hennaing my hands and they were like doing my face and like that,
that it's supposed to like ward off evil spirits.
And I swear it does.
Like you put that face on.
Hey,
I just ordered some,
I found a website that has the organic,
like Jenny Popple and I'm going to start painting.
Cause I painted my face with henna and like,
it kind of gave me a chemical burn all over my face.
So I was like,
Oh yeah,
I need to get like the actual fruit. So I just ordered bro and i'm just gonna walk around the city with like my like
amazon face and i i like i can go to any hood with that face on and also people think it's tattooed
and also there's like the whole thing where like oh how do you how does the artist become famous
and well known that you gotta tat your face i'm like like, well, I don't got to tat my face.
I'm just going to paint it every week.
Some, something different, like war paint and just like pull up into the grocery store,
like, like I'm hunting, but I am hunting at the grocery store, getting some food.
So I'm going to start like making that.
I'm going to go, I'm going to go crazy.
Like in Art Basel, just like going full apocalypto mode.
That's
awesome. Next time I go to the grocery
store, I'm gonna think like I'm hunting too, man.
Now you got my... I'm definitely
gonna think about that. Yeah.
With a cart. Yeah.
Or a basket.
Yeah.
And I posted that video of me painting next to the
animals and like, I'm sure some people kind
of got like butthurt about it but i'm like you eating factory farmed food is way way way worse
than hunting your own stuff and eating it oh yeah oh yeah ro Robert, welcome, welcome. I'd like to introduce my co-host Marlon, this is Robert.
We recently met and he does a lot of insane real-life art stuff, tokenization, like NFTs that lead to real-world assets.
I believe he's done some stuff with banksy art etc so i was hoping to introduce you to um because
he's unlike any other art person i've met currently through trying to like build this
little community we're doing here so welcome robert how are you doing tonight good good i
got took a long long hike and i just i'm a little little tired but i feel good the vibes are right
no but yeah nice to meet you marlon i've been hearing a lot about you and like i've been following your uh your feed so yeah much love brother yeah bro nice to
meet you i'm gonna add you for sure yeah we're ready like we're gonna learn more about you and
like and yeah bro so like it's like um you've been doing this for a minute so i've been like
checking some stuff out and hate man's been like always shining you out. It's been pretty cool, man.
It's good to learn.
I appreciate y'all asking me to go on Spaces.
Final RMF has got some really cool
good traction today.
It's all linked up with the Spaces,
and we're all helping each other out.
We keep on keeping on.
And, yeah, I just – I'm still, like, one of the only artists.
Like, Miami artists are – you know, there's a lot of them,
and a lot of them did NFTs and stuff.
But I'm, like, literally the only one that stuck around,
and I still can't believe, like, they're just letting us get away with it.
Like, how Have you still not
or have you not even came back and
people just believe the headlines
too much. Like, NFTs are dead.
I thought NFTs were dead. It's like, bro.
There's a thousand people
that are into NFTs.
There always will be at least a thousand
people in NFTs. It will never die.
And one of the most,
that's why I'm so bullish about like
crypto in general is because of what it's done to art.
Like if anything, that will be its saving grace.
It could make it more creative now.
You know, it's like you could like really just
no, no, no, no, like no breaks,
no, no restrictions. If you really know it's like you could like really just no no no no like uh no breaks no no
restrictions if you really know how to like pay attention and just get get it to your get it to
your going so yeah no it's cool man yeah 100 yeah and i mean even this whole meme coin craze like
it's all based on art it's just it's instead of 10 000 nfts it's one nft which is one cartoon image and then
there's a trillion it's fractionalized into a trillion tokens so it's just one nft in a trillion
crumbs and you can pick up like as much pieces of that one cookie that you want and uh yeah that's why it's so crazy that the biggest meta is matt fury because i met
matt fury in 2012 and i picked up like a boys club zine in new york like at the moma new york
zine fair and i was like how i found out about boys club and like the boys club meme world has been like a generational trade for me
and uh like that's kind of like what i'm most bullish on
not not i mean like i didn't be like general not just generational as like okay
back like like this the signs have been there since i was like in college like okay
pick up the matt fury stuff
it was like the like paths were paved in that direction like in terms of the meme coin stuff
yeah we we recently so like the heads collection it took us four months to get this eight man one
that you're looking at here and um because we didn't launch this project and the people who
launched it rugged it blah blah blah they didn't buy the art so we wanted to get it the guy was in
italy long story short the guy down in the room here boomer was in the middle of the ocean on a
cruise and negotiated the deal and the floor at the time was less than an ETH, right?
It was like 0.89 of an ETH.
And there were like 12 different heads at that price.
And we paid collectively 3.09 Ethereum for Ape-Man Red number 55 heads
and put it in our multi-sig volt.
And since then, I look last night night the floor is up to 1.67
it kicked off like a waterfall effect for the heads collection and like i've been sweeping
floors of a couple different things and it's just like nfts are back they were never gone
but like it's funny when people fud this stuff
yeah i'm seeing everyone like a lot of these artists winning flood this stuff.
Yeah.
I'm seeing everyone, like,
a lot of these artists winning with NFTs.
Like, Manik,
Manik stuff's been going crazy.
He's been, like, one of the main
artists that people
have been scooping up.
That's been insane to see.
I feel like he's kicking off this
one-on-one
bull run.
Exciting.
Yeah.
I was talking to North
that's in the audience too. I want to start
I want to make
a 6529 meme
also. I think they do one that's a vote. I want to make a 6529 meme.
Also,
I think they do one that's a vote. They vote.
People can vote.
Anyone's welcome to come up here
at this point. If your homie's down there,
just hit the button. They can come on up.
Yeah.
Somebody just requested
the end
for some reason. 6529, what's up? somebody just requested yeah yeah I want to make a meme I feel like that will also like we do a
meme for like six five two nine you know that opens up even just even if I don't even win the vote, I think it would be awesome to just get seen by the people that collect those type of memes.
That opens up a door to a whole bunch of new collectors and benefits everything.
Maybe more like established NFT.
I still haven't even been accepted to SuperRare.
I'm still trying to get on SuperRare.
But I've been like...
Yeah.
Anybody pull frames on that?
Let's get them hooked up.
Any listeners?
That seems weird. Let's send some emails.
I would see
them. I saw them at some crypto conference and i was like
they're all wearing the super rare shirts and i just go up to them like yo like why haven't you
accepted me yet what the fuck and then they're all like they all start stuttering like oh yeah
oh yeah here's a card like send us an email yeah whatever but it's been it's made me like
hustle in other ways and explore other maybe it's just everything's
a divine timing bro like it's really what i'm realizing never never ever worry never doubt
yourself and never panic because like nine times out of ten when you're in nature panicking equals
death you know when you're diving deep sea diving you panic you run out of air you die you're in nature, panicking equals death. You know, when you're diving, deep-sea diving, you panic.
You run out of air, you die.
You're getting, like, strangled by anaconda.
The more you panic, the more it, like, starts constricting you more.
I mean, like a boa constrictor, the more it starts, like, constricting you more,
the more, like, you're in quicksand, like, the harder you pull, the more it's, like,
yeah, the universal Chinese finger trap, you just have to realize that your problems aren't you.
You gotta detach and be calm.
It's true.
It applies to skydiving too.
You know, panic's not ever really productive.
Fear, fear can be productive in the right things,
like I'm saying skydiving, right?
But panicking in any respects
really never does you any good
yeah like when you panic sell you usually regret it panicans
or just boredom
you know something happened bored boredom is a very american term or like uh
like in like japan cultures like that like they don't really have words for that like
they don't a lot of countries don't understand the concept of being bored like what what does
that mean it's quite a luxury i catch myself myself. If I ever say I'm bored,
I actually don't say it anymore. If those words are about to leave my mouth,
I find something to do like right away, or I just take a nap, right?
But I commit to that or something.
Yeah. I, yeah, that word is not in my vocabulary.
It's like so much stuff to do
that's why I'm so
deep that's why
the fam has been going so strong
and the NFT collection on my end
because
to me being
on Twitter instead of
mindless scrolling I'm able to do
productive scrolling so
instead of me just watching random reels i'm like
i can be on twitter like meeting you people getting new collectors like going on spaces
so the nfts it's like okay i'm wasting too much time on my phone how can i make my phone time on
my phone productive and then the nfts that that filled that in so i was like okay i can make a
collection and have like open set of
numbers and like instead of scrolling on instagram i could be building a community with every single
one of these nfts so now like instead of now i'm just like in line in starbucks like
on twitter being productive it's cool and now i'm on openc page and fine art mfers is on the home page on top movers today
let's go if you want to go to the home page scroll down there's feature collections
scroll down trending currencies feature drops featured abstract collections top movers today
fine art mfers is number one that's awesome let's go yeah and then the floor got floor floor went way up i i so what
you don't know marlon is like last night i took the airwaves for a little tap session here and i
told the room i was like look man i've been thinking about sweeping the floor for like a
couple days so if there's anything you guys like i I'm trying to not be greedy here. And some people bought some and I woke up this morning and I was like, whatever.
And I swept it, but that kicked off a waterfall effect.
And man, finally, like it's, it's awesome.
There's a whole bunch of new ones on the market.
I actually have a pulled up here right before I fired this up.
And some ones I had never seen are now on the market and exciting man there's such
stunning pieces of artwork i really have some like questions about it like how long did it take for
you to create all of these traits like from like the concept of you're gonna do this to like
all right the men's going live. How much time did that take you?
I think it took me, there's a lot.
Because think about it, I have to draw the banner.
I have to make the website.
I have to make the little buttons on the website.
So it's not just the traits.
And then it almost feels like it's never ending. But then you're like, wait, now I have to make a header.
Now I've got to make a header, but this format.
I think it took me a year to draw everything.
It's actually impressively fast, man.
That's crazy fast. Faster than I could have imagined.
Yeah. But if you look at the, even the line around the head,
there's like five different lines and you see,
like there's like the diamond.
Oh yeah.
Outline.
There's like, well, like a DNA outline.
I like the stars.
I like the stars one a lot.
I got a couple of those i think i have one
of each at this point um the pepe snake or whatever that's eating itself that's clean yeah
yeah and i mean i foreshadowed a lot of things like i put i put i made the mog goggles the gm
with the gm on the mog goggles before mog even became, so I made G Mog goggles before Mog even came out.
I had like Pepe traits before like the Pepe came out,
before Pepe coin came out.
Like if you had apes into those things,
like when you bought your fam, you know,
you would have been crazy up.
But yeah, there's like a lot of foreshadowing
in the collection.
And like I put in, I don't know, just mix it in with the Bucky's Mouth and the Pepe MC Escher.
Yeah.
So much.
So much.
Really, it's overwhelming.
And it's one of the most overwhelming art collections I've ever seen.
And just absolutely stunning.
I'm fascinated.
I honestly look every night, man.
I probably look every morning, too, to see if new ones are on the market.
It's just like a personal obsession.
And I don't even care saying it, dude.
They're beautiful.
And I just am really appreciative that you took that time out of your life to make this for people.
So thank you.
Seriously.
Of course.
It's been.
Oh, since I have the hologram, what does that allow me to do?
What kind of superpowers I got?
I changed my PFP back.
The hologram watch?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's like like, on record,
Satoshi's favorite trait.
Satoshi himself, when the collection launched,
he posted a screenshot,
like, this is my favorite trait,
and it was the hologram watch with the 420.
And I don't even like Star Wars that much,
but for some reason,
I actually haven't even,
I can't even quote the movie or anything. I like Star Wars, but I'm not, like, a super fan, but for some reason i i i actually haven't even i can't even quote the movie or
anything i like star wars but i'm not like a super fan but for some reason i just wanted to put a
bunch of star wars traits in it it just felt right for some reason but like the whole thing about the
jedi and like it has a lot to do with like when yoda pulls out the the x-wing out of the pond.
And Luke finds out that he has that same power.
We all have the power to do that.
We all have the power to get the X-wing out of the pond.
We all have the power to create positive expansion
in the creative process
and make these things happen for us.
But we just have to let it...
We have to just get out of our own way
and open the door.
So the training of...
And this is all stuff I came up with later.
And I was like,
why did I put so many Star Wars stuff in here?
And it just all started making sense.
I don't know, the path to Jedi,
we're all on that path.
But it's up to us.
We all got the Force.
Let's go!
Yeah.
It's so true.
I've definitely been finding out, yeah, the more you, you know, put into your mind, too,
like, I've been listening to, like, some masters on YouTube and stuff like that,
and it's just, like, it's just retrain.
A lot of it is retraining the way you think, you know, because, you know,
it's stuff that's been taught to you.
It can be very limiting, you know, and almost disabling.
But, you know,
when you open your mind to possibility and start to realize who you are,
you know, who you really are, not like, you know,
who you've made yourself out to be or who the world's
made yourself out to be, then, you
know, then you can, it's like you're in a state of
flow. You're just being who you're,
you know, who you
really are, and it's very freeing,
and I'm picking up that you've gotten
a lot of that. I'm so fucking proud of you. Let's
fucking go.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
I remember when his project
sold out to find out MFers
was, it took a while because
like COVID happened and everything
and they were just like
sitting there and I remember
doing a space with Marlon.
And we got that shit sold out in, like, a day.
There was a whole gang of us.
Speak Tasta, you're there.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a whole fun.
Yeah.
That's all about, yeah, time.
Like, I'm really patient, obviously, from my art and like the detail so and and honestly my
art my own art motivates me like i'll have i'll be there months like none getting minted i just
look at i'm like nah like this is too fire like this art is too fire like if like this deserves
to get sold out and then that's my own art motivates me to push it.
I'm nowhere near where I feel like I deserve to be.
I don't even believe in I.
I'm tired of...
I think nine times out of ten, you start your sentence with I.
You don't fuck up already.
I want to do something besides myself, but I need to become whatever it is in the eyes of other people
to like get to the place where I can go beyond me.
And because, you know, like all these artists, like, look at my show,
look at my story, my story, my story my story my story me me me like my stuff
it's like bro like your show is fine like you're an artist you make pretty pictures but
what else are you doing so i am trying to elevate myself to the point where i can do something besides myself. And I do a lot of stuff besides myself,
but I don't feel like it's enough.
But in order to do that, you do have to elevate you.
But I'm going with the mentality of not myself,
if that makes sense.
It makes sense to me, man.
Yeah. I don't want to come from a selfish, like, look at my sold out show,
my stuff, my show. I'm so like,
look at my sales and my story and I don't care about my story.
Well, you're providing an experience and the difference, The difference, I totally hear what you're saying.
Yeah, that ego thing can really get the best of all of us.
But when you get to be a part of the experience, it was fun.
It's a fun experience.
And zooming in to your art, art and like it's everything's
like a surprise like oh my god what's this i didn't see that you know like that's what i love
about you know our community of artists and uh you know just like awesome fucking people is that
it would make it fun man you know it's just like legit yeah Great to be a part of.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, I kind of want to bring people's expectations higher, too.
Like, I feel like a lot of artists half-ass their stuff and are able to get away with it because people haven't really been exposed to, other to like anything better so i want to take my stuff like on a bigger scale
so i can expose people to like higher quality of thinking and a higher quality of art and like
a higher quality of care for their stuff and like reverse like the negative vibrations
and the stupid things that people have been exposed to.
And I wanted to like, also, Cicasa just came on stage.
I wanted to shout him out because I was talking about,
I want to do something, some things besides myself.
Like Cicasa has been like, he, like the way,
the way he spent so much time doing selfless things,
just like for like lesser known artists
and like dedicating days of his time to doing like art
contests and like critiquing we're going on spaces hours just critiquing other artists stuff and like
elevating them and that takes a lot of energy so yeah i wanted to shout out to my brother c casa
what's up guys appreciate the words marlon always good to see you. What's up, everyone else? Good to see you guys.
Thanks for hosting this space, man.
Whenever there's a chance to tune in to Marlon,
especially since this dude has just been on this epic voyage
to some crazy parts of the world,
the world soaking up some new artistic fucking uh sauce it's it's it's i can only imagine the
soaking up some new artistic fucking sauce.
vibrations that have accumulated to date um since then man so i hope that trip was good too it looked
it looked like it was a lot of fun and um you know denim majestic uh robert good to see you
bubba um yeah dude i was just i was when i when i heard you say marlon that uh
you know there's a difference and i i think that whoever resonates like really resonates like
takes the time to understand like what mfers represents it not it doesn't really represent
it represents something different
to everything but there is a a driving kind of spirit or ethos and it certainly is not
immediate gratification right but I think like there's a lot of people that think oh I can create
some art or I can do whatever or I can this project. And they want the immediacy of it.
And when you see somebody really living it by example,
embodying the process,
I see Marlon, I mean, through the years now,
doing things that he knows is lending to his artistic growth but is really just rooted in as
he as he just kind of said i forget how you put it but it was like the negative like like
like reversing the was it negative vibrations is that what you said yeah like the negative
frequencies that are pushed upon us by shadow entities.
Right.
And so like those efforts, they require sacrifice. They require whatever is not that reactive, impulsive, easy fix solution, right?
And which is usually uncomfortable.
It's usually something that you don't see the immediate response or the immediate benefit from.
But you just, and it's very similar to kind of the way that I've tried to go about things in this space.
Like you just know, or whether or not it's going to work out.
You know that the process and the underlying intention through each step of the process is something that you can be proud of.
So like, and that obviously you believe it's going to work.
None of us have a crystal ball, no matter how much a TA bro will convince you or some, you know, redneck on here will have you convinced that you're crazy.
convinced that you're you're crazy um there's there's something about just just being authentic
and pursuing that type of um growth and elevation that a lot of us resonate with it that have come
to fine art and efforts have come to different projects that um are focused on elevating the art
and elevating artists and something actually just happened recently.
It was like a couple of days ago that made me think of it.
Like the first person that came to mind was Marlon
when this happened.
Like for years I've watched that dude Manic.
He's the artist, another artist in the space.
He's been like kind of in the mix of MFers.
He did this like suit in the name mystery
when we were deep in the bear,
had everyone guessing who he was.
But also he's just been like on this pursuit of, he's been grappling with bipolar.
He's been really in it, like pouring it all into it.
And I've been collecting his stuff because I genuinely love it.
And it's crazy how it just kind of, one was was paying attention to it and whatever and
he here he had this like incredible stuff and i was giving away his additions to like my subscribers
you know similar to i've done with some of your art marlon just just to kind of make people aware
like yo these are dope artists and like something something is going to converge at the right time where
this is gonna the whole paradigm is gonna shift in the way that the lens that people view them through
and as of a couple days ago you had like a couple like ral paul and a couple of these like
big collectors like the guys who have all the all the act stuff and whatever um they noticed
manic and all of a sudden his floors on his edition went from 0.001 eath to a week offers
to like 0.5 0.3 like stuff selling for two three eath in a second and it's just because it's like
ripple effect happened and and now i've just because it's like ripple effects happened.
And now I've just been like,
just like kind of ruminating on that thinking like,
damn, like there are other artists here,
Marlon being one of them,
where like it's so fun when that happens,
but the actual pursuit of it
or the process to kind of like second guess yourself
and really find a rooting with the conviction
and just because you have an affinity for genuinely as someone that connects with the spirit and the
talent and the dedication that it takes to produce that type of um art like that is such a a dope
thing to to actually see um like the results for and i think it's been a long time
and a lot of us are jaded because at one point um in like 21 or 2020 2019 like the art was selling
and people were getting into the space and then there's that you know inevitable shift where
you have people that are speculating and they're seeing these big numbers so they're trying to manipulate and then this like implosion and people go to memes and whatever it
is but there's been a core that have been um have remained you know dedicated to to um under like
finding and supporting and just being a part of whatever movements these you know very unique
artists are in the space and they are few and far between but there are you know some really amazing ones uh obviously marlin being one
and i just i i've always kind of looked at the fine art mfers floor sometimes and i'm just like
i'm looking in the at the details and the the layers of lore that are packed into these things and knowing what marlin is doing
and just seeing the absolute disrespect that a couple zeros that before the number we offered
or or even just the floor is doing and i'm just like it's funny because it's it's it's it's beautiful
for whenever it happens man like really happens which I think a lot of us especially like you know
core MFers who have seen Marlon's dedication to art but also his own personal growth and what that
alignment does um what the possibilities are and I guess I wanted to use that anecdote of
the manic um boom out of nowhere as just a a reminder because it was the first one I've had in a while
that kind of helped me just just help remind like help kind of reinforce this level of conviction
that I remain to have with certain artists and certain projects and certain communities so
for whatever it's worth I thought that might be, you know, worthwhile mentioning.
Yeah, for sure, bro.
Thank you for all that.
Yeah, I actually had just mentioned Manic earlier,
talking about the NFTs.
But the thing about Manic is, like, he was prepared.
Like, everything, yeah, he had everything set up so that when that boom happened it was like everything was ready to go and everything was like priced at the price that
i feel like we deserve to be at and like it didn't seem like he was like undervaluing himself
which is like a big thing artists do um So like everything just fell into place like really perfectly with that.
And that's like what we have to aim to do.
And like,
and I'm,
I'm hustling the NFT world,
but I'm also the IRL world.
So I'm just trying to professionalize everything I do.
Exactly.
So like I,
I have like my,
my website done,
like super nice, just everything laid out
all the it's not it's about not making a castle out of sand and yeah so that when well you know
to that point to that point though like there's like one asterisk i would put there right because
i think you've done this like you've you done like individual art. Like I have a fucking hoodie that I got from my dog, Marlon Pruz. It was my doc photo. I was so
fucking hyped, man. Like this dude sent me a whole ass like customized hoodie with my jungle bay,
my crazy, my fine art motherfucker. Like I had all the shits on it, bro. And I still wear it all
the time. I try not to wash it. I and i don't i don't i don't smell bad
so it's all right like don't worry about it but i just like having that that and then also the bobo
the market memes hoodie again we we did like we've been through some chapters together my uh
me and marlon just me as a fan right but also just he he's also really helped us build what
we're doing with with jungle
bay and elevating these artists and just contributing what he can which is absolute fire
to the different initiatives that i've tried to do with a very scrappy um you know set a set of
tools to work with but it's really just people coming together and it really is like such a
differentiator with community compared to the
way community gets abused of the word around here and devalued. And I see like glimpses of that with
what the ape man people have gone through. Like they've been clearly put to the test. There's a
lot of familiar antagonists around and they seem to be kind of dedicated. And it's encouraging and it's great to see
when people are really down to ride.
But the asterisk I was referencing was that
there was a couple times where Manic had put out
some mint.
One of them was this piece and I was like,
damn, this is so sick.
And I minted two of them. It was like i was like damn this is so sick and i minted two of them
it was like 0.03 eath or 0.02 eath and there was only 10 minted the floor on this like fucking
1.5 eath now bro and it's like i'm like nobody else is seeing this and that's how i feel about
marlin's work sometimes not that no one else but i'm just saying like it doesn't it isn't getting
the and i feel that way about crypto i feel that way about a lot of things that people around you you're just like are you guys not seeing what
is possible right now you know what i mean it's like it almost drives you crazy sometimes but
when it when it's when it's something that truly resonates with you and you feel it just
uh strike your heart string like you gotta act on that in in my opinion, some, you know, as long as you're not consistently fucking up.
So anyways, I just wanted to add that that caveat because it's dope as when you are a fan and maybe you don't have a lot and the artist gives opportunities to have a piece of your work that is impactful and meaningful.
that is impactful and meaningful and you know is it a good representation of their
talent um and you're able to get it when you don't necessarily have a huge bag to work with
that's a dope thing for artists to weave into their you know story once they do hit like a
point where they just like can't even justify a low price you know
even justify a low price,
you know?
Yeah,
for real.
And it just takes one catalyst.
Like,
and it's fucked up how the game works.
It's like,
it takes another,
no one really cares until someone else does,
but that's a game.
It's the wild,
right?
Yeah.
It's still true.
Ralph Paul said something.
But yeah.
Bro, like.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
But that's what you got to play.
So when that catalyst comes, you better have your shit ready.
And if you're not, it means you weren't ready.
Just keep going
at it and you learn from those right like when you when you know something is just undeniably
dank and you you overlook it because the the attention isn't there and then that
shit goes like if you don't learn from that a couple times i definitely tasted that burn
a lot of times in previous cycles where i'm like nah when you when you feel that whatever that
je ne sais quoi is, bro,
you got to strike and hold that motherfucker. And don't let you, don't fucking, you know,
waver from it when it really hits different, you know? Yeah. You got to make peace of the past and
at the end of the day, bro, like, what are you going to do with whatever? There was no other
reality where you would have should have done something
whatever happened was like i don't know i'm like do do we even have free will or is it all written
who knows like what other option where was there there wasn't there was never any other option
so whatever you did checkpoints i see it as like there's
checkpoints and like you know you got to kind of change your ways when you hit those like bumpers
or those checkpoints but in between them you got free will you know you can be right like you're
talking about preparation you know it's like preparation meets uh opportunity is where you
can like you know really have some success you know it's kind of yeah well it's
kind of like the sweet spot with dows right like i i'm not a fan of like something that's uh an
entity that's like fully decentralized if it's like a business or something because it ultimately
like it falls on people to to make efforts to scale right so you need a leadership or or an
agency or like when i say agency, like you're,
you know, the ability to actually choose or change how it's written. So I like to think
there's like a nice blend of the two and it's not necessarily a cut and dry, but I do, I do on where exactly that line is sometimes.
We all do.
Yeah, or like timing.
Because when I launched Find Our MFers,
I launched it and a week later, FTX happened.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And it's like, bro, yeah.
Anytime you, whenever you do something,
it's like when you're supposed, or to use that something else happened as an excuse that your thing didn't work out is just, like, unacceptable.
Well, look at, yeah.
Look at the blue chip memes, or blue chip NFT projects, right?
Like, it's straight down in the gutter.
gutter meanwhile like something that was a mid project let's say like uh pudgy pennies penguins
or whatever that had a different type of vision and leadership and um you know actionability to
the the process and this and the strategy is is just at the beginning of of what they're you know
what's possible so it's like if you got kind of the you know uh burdened with being called a blue
chip right before the you know shit started to get uncomfortable.
That was like a death sentence, even though it was,
you were talking about major, major, you know,
the future of Disney with doodles and this and that, right?
Like, or the next Disney, right?
So it's funny how that ends up happening.
And I feel that way about Jungle when the it was like these stupid monkeys and
whatever and and you know ridiculous whatever they've always just been kind of like oh yeah
okay but it's like the more we just focus on the art and the artist and the and like this this
concept of memetic finance it's getting more and more um layers to it and dimensions to it and that
just takes time and similar to what you guys are doing I don't think if you had that big boom in the beginning,
like then you get a lot of people that are just looking for the spark and not there for the sustained glow, you know?
And so it's poetic how it works out.
It's not necessarily the most easy to ride, but it is gratifying when it does align.
to ride um but it is gratifying when it does align yeah if i have just been like accepted
on super rare right off the bat and i started like selling all my one-on-ones like in that
craze like i wouldn't have gone on open sea and like launched the collections like i did and
honestly like pushing these collections has turned me into a marketing genius that has like seeped into my IRL.
Like it's taught me so many things about like how to make like move your art and how to like show your art to the world.
Like even when I was painting at that hotel convention just now, I was doing these like tile the buildings with different tiles
uh and I was like at first I was drawing the flowers I was drawing like the eyeballs and then
I remember like going back to the days I was painting all the spaces I was like oh I'm gonna
just start drawing the hotel brands in in the wall and then that's what brought all the hotels to me. And that's
what like, he's giving me the deals like an Abu Dhabi right now. And like, you know, crazy
chateaus and, and like seven star chateaus in Paris and stuff like that. That's what made
everyone come to me and give me their business cards. And I had like a line when it was time
to go pick up. Cause like, you you know people like the flowers and the hearts
and stuff but what scoop got scooped up first was like the hotel brands and that's just ways that
you have to kind of be able to include your art into what people like but i like to connect with
people in that way so and that was just little tactics that I learned from pushing an NFT project
and staying true to the community.
And then I'm like, yeah, I'm going to...
And I put MFers in the wall too.
So I was like, I'll draw the Rich Carlton logo for the Rich Carlton team.
Then next to it, I'll put an MFer.
So the person that picked the MFer tile up was a representative from Nobu Hotel.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And then they didn't even know the meme.
It was like, are you winning, son?
And then, you know, I just, like, MF-er peeled them right there.
And those, like, organic openings are the only way that it really like ingrains in their you know
subconscious and and and leaves a uh you know a lasting um kind of indelible mark on how they
resonate with whatever the the meme is or the art is or the saying is or whatever right you can't
force that shit you can you can kind of tee it up nicely to Majestic's point
about you know preparation and luck um where that convergence point is but it does require
you know the timing is is is an essential piece to really make it slap
yeah we keep proliferating.
And yeah, I mean, once I start, once I make a collection, it's with me for life.
So I'm going to be putting fam and I don't just do something for the temporary.
And that's one thing, bro, like that just is like a holder and just a member of the fine arts, fine art motherfuckers for a long time.
Like if we didn't have the benefit as a group of holders to see that, like you could say a lot of people say, oh, yeah, I'm here for the long haul.
When you actually show with your actions, it hits different.
show with your actions it hits different and uh now the time that has passed has given us ample
opportunity to kind of process that and really experience it and see it and that's just again
that there's so many people i mean this space is littered it's a graveyard of people that had empty
hollow promises and and then just gave up because it got difficult. And when you see the few people that can, you know, persevere and push through that
and just find ways, be resourceful to make new shit that's compelling
and to scale and add layers to whatever their vision is,
like it's a very cool thing to be a part of.
Yeah, dude. their vision is like it's it's a very cool thing to be a part of yeah dude i'm so i'm still like super excited when market's down market's up this is i can't believe this whole space even exists still it was just too perfect and it all
happened like yeah that's why i just never i just never worry
and i never doubt the divine timing even with the nfts bro because and if he's popped off during
covid and it saved so many artists lives it's insane like i was i i started working at tattoos
by lou like learning how to tattoo learning like tattoo trait like you know
learning the trait of tattooing and it was like brutal bro like the clients the people that walk
in there it was like horrible i was channeling like a lot of horrible people and then the nfc
started popping off and i was like i'm done i'm gonna chill with the tattoo a bit like the same
for me then the nft world came in and it's like how did just this
brand new technology this focus around art just pop out of nowhere right when so many people
needed it the most it's like bro there's a there's some other forces working network spirituality
but yeah and when you're when you're you know when you're plugged into that, as you said, that frequency that combats all the negative drags that are around us,
that's when that divine timing, I think, has the opportunity to show its face whenever it decides.
Luck hits all different types of people, but I think, like, I always think about, like, lottery winners, you know,
the majority of them losing their winnings or trust fund kids that don't
understand, like, you know, don't have an experience how difficult it is to
earn.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's just all those different examples um where that that kind of stays true so like i think that it's like the divine timing and then it's the the the the
capacity to retain it and to to grow it that i think is a different bucket and that really
requires like just putting in the reps and and and you know diving in to whatever your passion is
on a granular level where you just outwork everybody.
Yeah, most definitely.
And, like, even going back to Manic,
like, Manic has a very interesting condition,
and he can channel a lot.
Like, you know, when you're bipolar and schizophrenic,
you channel a lot of crazy things.
And I know a lot of people that have that condition,
and they channel it in a very dark, maybe negative way.
And the way that I see him working with it and like almost like fighting it with
light and producing that like that's why he's winning and it's also why it's like to never
like just you know you see like another artist doing like making moves like that it's it's easy
for you to compare yourself as another artist but it's like yeah i mean everyone's craving something else because
that that is the distinguishing factor that it's it's nuanced but it's everything like i've always
known that or like witness that about manic because you know you see people that kind of
i'm not saying they they use the bipolar or just like whatever that is kind of their demon they're grappling with as like the front and center thing.
But it's like when you know that as a as an extra kind of element of what goes into his process and then you see the output not like, as you said, like fighting it with light.
Like that's such a great way to describe because that's the exact kind of um you know internal um like
resonance that i have when i when i look at a lot of his art um that's really cool yeah no because i
i know people with the same condition that are artists and they're going down like the other
side right it's like i'm like bro you need a you need a you know you're stronger
you're stronger than the demon bro god is stronger than the demon and you a demon ain't got shit on
you bro like don't succumb to it bro on a silly on a silly level like that's why i love bubble so
much because it's like the ultimate opponent of the market and like if you can't beat
the ultimate force that you're grab that you're fighting against like you're not good enough
and that that is like kind of the the distilled down version of like why i'm i'm so drawn to it
you know and i think that but as you said like it applies um in any way whether it's art or
your life or whatever if you let it consume you and keep you in the you know
enclosed rather than challenging you to find a way to highlight it but to overpower it and to like
you know essentially just be victorious over it that's that's where few emerge
it um that's that's where few emerge um being able to really claim that and show it
awareness like that there's even these forces you know to deal with uh you know i think is
is huge you know a lot of people go you know they just don't even recognize the fact that there is, you know.
Yeah, totally.
Right.
So, yeah, just major props for, you know, it takes courage. It takes a hell of a lot of courage to, you know, dive deep and kind of figure some shit out and then figure out, like, your superpowers and how to use those to win, you know, at the game of life.
And because it's like, you want to be doing something that you enjoy,
you're naturally good at.
And so, you know, and I see people like Marlon, you know,
tapping into his fricking superpower and winning at it.
It gives hope, you know, for a lot of artists, a lot of people to,
you know, to keep at it, you know, keep at it you know to keep uh you know persevering and um you
know let's fucking go man i always lose my train of thought
yeah bro i don't want i don't want to be an artist i just want to be a demon slayer
there you go i just want to like i i'm i can like pull up to hell and be like
what's up bros like let's let's talk about it like i want to be a lia i want to infiltrate
like even i even like painted live at rolling loud and rolling loud is like
filled with those like cia shadow entity frequencies of the rap music. And I did this whole piece kind of like
under the collective consciousness.
And I don't know, I kind of felt like it was almost like,
yeah, I'm in hell.
It's kind of, but I want to like infiltrate these places,
these cesspool places that have been pushing
all this garbage and just like Trojan horse
inside into all that with divine power.
Oh yeah. Hey Marlon. It's Nancy granny.
Hey Nancy.
I just,
I've had a long day cause I'm working on my website for my artist's legacy.
And I just had to step in here, even though I won't be here for the whole time.
I'm going to, I am going to listen to it later, but I, I'm just so excited for you.
I just want you to know you are divinely inspired and you are in the flow of the universe because your ego isn't driving this you're
surrendering to the flow is what my thing is and you're letting yourself be a brain cell of
the divinity creator which we are all brain cells so there's no separation really it's our egos that
get in the way if we let ourselves surrender it's unbelievable thegos that get in the way. If we let ourselves surrender, it's unbelievable, the ride.
We could try to control the ride.
It doesn't work too good.
I mean, you have to make all those incredible decisions like you did with your tiles and stuff.
But, I mean, I think you're just being guided.
And I'm really excited for you and what you can bring to the world.
And your visit to the Amazon was deeply moving to me.
I mean, I'm an old hippie and yogi and psychedelic, you know, background and child of alcoholics and then alcoholic and, you know, binge the dark night of soul.
And I'm just, I'm really happy for you.
And you're going to help bring a lot of light to this world.
That's awesome. Well said.
So Granny's going to go to bed early
because I've got to get back to this website
tomorrow.
Thank you for coming up here.
Oh sure.
I'll check in. I've got to hear the rest of this.
I'll stay in the background but I'll put it in the other room
so I don't
I can go to sleep
maybe I'll get in the drawing
who knows
alright
much love and
just keep on doing what you're doing
you know and everybody
you have that light in you too
every one of us every one of us.
It's true.
Thanks for coming up, Nancy. It's good to hear you.
I haven't talked to you in a long time.
I know. Is that Cicasa?
No, no, no.
Where are you?
Oh, sorry. I know we sound the same people people mix that up all the time
it's all good you're not the first who is it it's majestic um i i've got my fine art mfr on right
now but um i don't know we've been calling each other for a while. Yeah. Well, we know brain pasta. That's it.
That's it.
Let's go.
Oh, yeah.
I know him since Clown Health 2021.
And I missed the whole damn.
I got started in the NFT drive right from February on.
And then July of 21, I had my first major spinal surgery.
And it's like, crash.
I was about to do a board ape derivative. And as I
couldn't get it started in time before my surgery to get it finished. And so my little art thing
crashed and burned for the last three years, but that's okay. Cause everything happens in divine
timing and, uh, it's all good. And I love seeing all you youngsters growing up and doing all these
incredible things. So it makes me happy.
You're carrying the light for the next generation.
Okay.
You guys,
I'm going to beg off and,
and say good night to everybody.
Okay.
Yeah.
Have a good night.
Much love.
Love y'all.
Good night.
You too.
Thank you,
Nancy.
sure.
Marlon.
It's glitching out. And won't let me kick you the co-host again Robert I'm gonna try
to step you down and bring everyone
back up as co-host just so you know
Marlon work your
magic come on we got forces
coming against us I got booted
three times
I even got booted
that's the thing.
We have to be really careful with the phones because, hold up.
Because when you're trying to, the 5G, the 5G is like micro metals for frequency. When you're trying to ascend the 5, it's like having a giant
metal
heavy
rain
frequency.
It's like putting a shit ton of
mercury in the water.
That's what 5G is.
It's like this metallic
mercury air. When you are trying to ascend,
it can block, you receive a lot of messages, but it can actively block a lot of messages. So
yeah, especially if I go to nature and everything, I do not bring my phone.
And then like when I was in the Amazon was the campsite that we stayed in was like
very heavy boa spirit so like each one of these tribes has like different spirits and
the yellow nahuas are the boar people and their hunting side is like super boa constrictor spirit
run and like like the times i really do feel like i'm being constricted is like when I'm scrolling, like doom scrolling.
And when I get into that, like just looking at reels or I'm on the phone, on the toilet, like every time I'm on the toilet, it's like on my phone.
That's when I feel like the boa has got me.
And that's that 5G like frequency infiltrator.
You know, it's interesting you say that, um,
you know, I think I read this somewhere and I kind of vibe with it, that one of the worst inventions for humanity was rubber soles of shoes, because there is a natural electrical current
of mother earth. And when you take off your socks and shoes and plant your feet on the ground as
you were saying you don't take your cell phone out in nature um i have been now i'm going to try not
to some capacity uh but i really implore people to reconnect your bare feet to the earth even for
like 20 minutes a day i swear whether you call it a placebo effect or not i think we've done humanity a disservice by
wearing rubber on our feats all day like just personal opinion i was thinking about that when
you were talking marlon even if it's a placebo effect it's powerful and it works so you know
it's really the power of your mind because it it's it's wild what uh when you don't establish barriers.
For those that have ventured through the further extensions of what's accessible,
I think you just resonate with that.
It's just like, you're like, damn, there really is way more that's accessible. You just got to figure out how to access it. Uh, you know, clicking.
Yeah.
Yeah. Got to get grounded. You got to get dirty. It's the paradox of it, right? You got to get,
you got to get grounded to get ungrounded. It's beautiful. You gotta, you gotta eliminate
everything to access everything.
It's just, that's why I love MFers, man.
It's the most, the deepest shit packed into the simplest topical form.
You know?
So, Marlon, have you been playing with your OK computer no i just really like how they look i really like they're talking talking about barefoot
do get barefoot's okay computer that thing is sick it's crazy man you see you give you give
mfers a fucking portal to fuck around and find out it man just like seeing what some of the
the technical motherfuckers have been doing with those things i've just been adding some here and
there because it's like you know i i can only do so much man i'm i'm a simple um but but it's just
when you see it happening uh i i i it happened to me when banker launched like i went full geek mode um and just testing
the limits and because it's just so crazy as a proliferation vehicle and just kind of thinking
where where it could go and now seeing what they've done of like what's accessible and what's
programmable with you know these nfts is just another dope uh piece of the of the story
another dope uh piece of the of the story what i think would be sorry sorry what i think would
be so cool for one of your okay computers because i know you have some is to like have like uh you
know you enter marlin verse or whatever like something like that and just like in your pfps
like the more you scroll the more you see you just kind of keep
going you know down the journey of like all your fucking you know art and stuff like that i don't
know that that just came that'd be awesome yeah so i kind of like a marlin uh website on the inside
of the okay computer i don't know how that would work but i think that'd be really cool and i'm
planning on getting one soon but it'll probably be expensive by the time I get a hold of one, but I think they're really cool what people are doing and building with them.
I'm making a game of Snake with the rainbow, like his rainbow, like Chris's, you know, it's going to get longer every time he runs into something, so you've got to try to get him to not run into stuff. I did that way back in the day,
so I'm working on that. I'm bad coding.
It's fun.
You got to stay grounded. You can't be in front of your computer
too much. I can't.
I can't, but I try.
Yeah.
That's why y'all
stay winning, because y'all stay curious.
When it's all crickets, y'all stay curious and when no one when it's all crickets y'all are like
spending hours just like figuring out tinkering scooping yeah and that that's like you know we
talk about other artists winning that would have been a wrap i'm like seeing other people have like
get into ecosystems very early and like really passionate Someone like Sartocrates, I've been watching
how he's been almost
becoming a main spokesperson
for bass.
Even like that,
his trajectory has
been crazy and seeing all these other MFers
just from
experiencing, all you gotta do
is stay extremely curious
and you will win.
Big box.
I'm a cat.
So like my curiosity is like almost killed me,
but I got nine lives.
So we're good.
I know.
Now I want to,
I like want to spend more time getting into like the ecosystem and like
messing the okay computer
but i like i had just worked this whole event for like three days and i spent the last two
days editing just editing the video so you know when i when i when i get this stuff out like it's
you know impactful as hell so i'm trying i'm just like full focus but i i'm i'm trying to just like
when i see like something cool early,
like I just scoop it up now.
Like I'll research it later.
Like, okay, computer was sick.
So I just scooped it up.
Like, and then we'll fuck around and find out.
Oh, yeah.
You also got to like teach kids or like, like what was that?
What was that like?
Like your experience working with the kids and i bet you they were just head over heels you know creating stuff oh yeah i i just i brought a bunch
of like art materials and the like the main girl like one of the main girls that like i was drawing
with was like the chief's daughter so like her and like all her friends were just like asking about
me like non-stop like what are we gonna design all her friends were just like asking about me like
non-stop like what are we gonna design when are we gonna design like let's design let's design
like i end up giving them like 200 worth of like i just left all my art materials with them
and stuff and we just like non-stop drew but it's so crazy how much how aligned i was with them because I'm love like body painting and like sacred
type
like protection you know
like I've always wanted to just paint my face
I just want to have my face painted like all the time
and then and there is where I learn
like what they use
like the designs that you know
give off that effect
that like the
evil forces like won't fuck with.
So now I'm going to take that, bring it to the city,
and I'm just going to move
the Amazon way, but
in the city.
And see what effect
that has. And just kind of
operate like a chief.
You're the chief
of your own life, so
your first intuition is the right
intuition and like don't go against your gut feeling and just because everyone else is going
to do something like you just say no like i ain't for me like i'm not gonna go just because all y'all
are doing like be a boss like be a chief and it helped me realize like what that means. I mean, obviously
my responsibility is nothing like this. The main chiefs that he's like Rasu, which is
the one I did the portrait of. He's like the warrior chief. He's like my age. Like he's
just like, bro, how am I going to rebuild my whole village with brick instead of wood
when I'm seven hours away from the nearest
hardware store by boat you know and then there's like the other chief was mazini who was like the
oracle super wisdom like elder and like the way he spoke it would be like 30 people sitting around
but every single person he'd be speaking generally but every single person who felt like directly
spoken to the whole shit he was saying was like, what?
And you'd just be peeling back layers and like years of experience,
like years of what it would take to like a lesson's worth of experience,
but he's just like peeling these layers, like right as he's speaking to us.
Like peel that one, peel that one.
And it was crazy.
Oh yeah, I'm going off on a tangent, but yeah.
Working with the kids was, the art materials, it was like. I'm going off on a tangent. But yeah, working with the kids was the art materials.
It was like I had to it was like daddy daycare.
I didn't even speak the language.
So it got hectic sometimes.
But, you know, we just like free for all day.
And it was really dope.
You know, while I have you, Arlen, I do wonder.
You talk a lot about the universe speaking to you which it speaks to me
I meditate quite a lot um do you have a defining moment in your memory when the universe spoke to
you and you were like art is it like I'm gonna pursue art and follow the universe like was there
an artist that you saw like was there a moment? When did it click that you were like,
this is it, the university is speaking to me.
Are art's the way of the world?
I've always been the art kid.
When I was a kid,
everyone knew I was going to be an artist,
but I didn't really know.
Because in high school, it was all very lesson-based and rigid.
And it was like, you have to paint this realistically.
You have to paint this like that.
And it wasn't until I got a Sharpie pen and I started doing my type of line style. Where I was like, oh, this can be my art.
where I was like, oh, this can be my art.
So, and then, no, what really clicked for me
was when I saw, I was like in 10th grade
and a blue canvas sold for $30 million.
And I was like, oh shit, what?
There is no rules to this.
Anything goes, any cheat code is fair game.
And then I was like all right fuck grades fuck like
art school fuck lessons and just everything goes bro as soon as i saw a canvas so blue canvas up
a 30 million i was like okay i'm just gonna start when i when I get an art school assignment, I'm just going to do whatever I want and turn it in.
And it worked.
My super strict illustrator teacher, she'd take my piece and put it on the whiteboard
in front of the whole class and just leave it there the whole day,
even though I didn't do the assignment that she told me to do.
But I would still go so hard on it and like make it my cool
style that she was she was feeling it so i guess that like yeah high school nice nice now i'm gonna
later tonight look up this particular blue painting and uh see who owns it it's publicly
known now now i'm interested that was such an inspiring defining moment for you
now i gotta see said blue canvas right you know what i mean yeah me i now i'm trying to look it
up again it's like the banana on the wall or whatever yeah it's funny how how people are
like oh my god it sold for for six million i'm like oh like justin's son bought that you like
that fool can literally mint six million
dollars like in a day like if he wanted to he could he's like he's probably got like k like
he's probably got like 100k wells on payroll it's like yo launch like 500 pump funds right now like
making me six mil i want this banana like he literally may well can make that in 24 hours
so it's like no i mean it's not that crazy that's all like the fact that justin
stone bought that banana for six million is like not crazy at all yeah it's pretty funny
hey marlon this is richard i was just wondering or thinking about like what
artists kind of inspired you you mentioned matt Fury earlier and, you know, he's obviously contemporary, but like growing up, you know, being a kid, did you ever have like an experience going to the museum or studying art history?
And seeing an artist that really, or a group of artists that really inspired you and made you like really interested in it?
that really inspired you and made you really interested in it?
Yeah, I guess what kind of made me kind of a trippy-type surrealist art
first was probably the Yellow Submarine animated movie by the Beatles.
I had a VHS of that in my house, and i watched it when i was like five years old
it's an animated movie it's freaking yeah yeah no i've seen that yeah that probably
was like the first thing to like unlock that lsd in my brain and then i fell in love with
dali like as a little kid so dali was my favorite artist when I was a little kid.
And from there, yeah, I kind of got into,
then I really got into Gorillaz, the band.
Like, that's when I first started watching, like, TV.
I would see, like, the Gorillaz music videos.
And that was, like, my first album.
So all the Gorillaz art really got into,
all the art from Linkin Park.
Like a lot of it was like from music.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'd place you born in the late nineties,
probably,
you know,
you're a young guy.
I'm a,
I'm,
I mean,
lots of the babies that were born at 2000,
25 year olds that were born in year 2000, you told me you were born in 2000, 25-year-olds that were born in 2000,
you tell them you were born in the 1900s.
They're like, what?
You're old.
Yeah, man, that's awesome, though.
That's cool.
And, like, I was an art history student, and I'm not an artist or anything.
I, you know, make videos, so I guess it's sort of an art form. But like, just kind of my backseat
perspective of this whole generation of like NFTs and everything. If you look back through art
history, right, you look at like Cezanne and Van Gogh and like the late 1800s, and they were laughed
out of the art galleries. And then the whole like early 1900s was just a fascinating time, right?
You have, like, the Blue Rider movement in Germany.
And, like, those paintings couldn't sell for $10 at the time.
Kandinsky and Jalensky and all these other, like, you know, artists that, you know,
now those paintings are going for shit you know 60
million dollars or whatever but like I see you know this kind of history repeats itself right
so it's like art's fascinating in that sense and I think that you know we're in this magnificent
time and you're definitely it's cool to follow you and see what you're doing because you're kind of like the leader of that movement.
So it's pretty cool to be watching this and have a little bit of an understanding of what's the potential and where this is headed.
Because the NFT is not just art, it's just like a lot of things, you know, it's like beyond our imaginations.
And what can unfold from here
is like incredible so it's pretty cool and i really thank you for for joining the eight man
space tonight it's been a pleasure listening to you yeah i really appreciate it and uh i haven't
done a space in a while so like i said before i was able to have a lot of things that i had experienced a lot of
lessons i learned since the last time i spoke on the space to share so that's how i like to
kind of operate but yeah i'm like ever since i'm in crypto it's so crazy how much life is a chart
like crypto is so like every like things aren't don't go to zero they just go
through accumulation phases and like they do fake breakouts you know then and it goes back down a
little like you know you do something big it's like okay little lull accumulation phase you work
you work and then you start stair set stair set up stair set
up you establish a new floor and then you have a crazy breakout all-time high i mean i hate the
whole thing about i'm at my peak but whatever like i'm been slow and steady super accumulation zone
like i haven't even my bull run hasn't even started.
Yeah, you're nowhere near
a peak, my friend. You're
at the base of a very tall mountain.
Like, staring a mile
away from even the base of a mountain.
Long journey ahead.
We're building a strong
floor, bro. It's a strong-ass
floor. No castle made of
sand shit.
Only a real divine
armor
warrior shit.
Oh, yeah.
We gonna move with the ancestors.
Like, I don't know.
There's forces beyond our comprehension.
That's what I'm trying to channel.
Yeah, this whole interview actually like me reaching out to you uh my personal account or whatever stemmed
from a conversation with Robert up here who um it's been kind of quiet tonight I get it I just
been fascinated by listening to you myself and thank you, Sakasa, for chopping it up. That was great.
But he was telling me about his art journey, and it's actually a really wild story.
And he inspired me to, like, try to do more with, like, the community here and reach out to, like, you know, like artists that I respect and really would like to get to know and like, you know, hear an interview or be able to interact with it.
And I reached out right after that show that morning, Robert popped in there. And that's
right. When I sent you that message, you said yes pretty quick. And I can't thank you enough
for taking time out of your like day or life to come in here and um share just kind of your your
your vision your life story like how you feel about the universe it's very inspiring um it's
it's cool when these things just kind of naturally come together like you showed up early like
i wasn't anticipating having so many people on stage like I just kind of like you know if it will do it live and I've been having a great time today man so thank you for coming
yeah of course uh I yeah exactly I just go by my intuition like I go by
the vibe of things and I've seen you move and like, I've seen you in the fam and yeah,
I will might say no to a fam that, you know,
wants to chop it up and felt right.
I felt like a good introductory space,
get back into the mix of speaking on here.
Yeah.
And that was great.
Like a lot of great things happened.
Yeah. I'm glad you're back and like you're thinking about doing more spaces like if i see you anywhere around like you know you you
know i'll be in there i'd love to see around more i think it's uh great uh you know it really today
has been an exciting day like fine art mfers really took over my timeline that's for sure
and uh i mean we didn't even touch on knifey i've been sitting over here looking through this and i
see your knifey flash sheet and i'm very heavily tattooed and i've been staring at this for a long
time man like the amount of art you have pumped out is staggering at your age it is just insane dude wow
dude yeah i can't i can't let this go to waste bro i got the i got this whatever i was born with
and uh i got i have to use it to channel i got i got to use it to channel bro and like once once
i'm so excited for like my my Jaguar ink to come.
I'm going to have my whole face painted everywhere I go, bro.
I think it's going to have a cool effect.
I think it's going to bring everybody that I need to come to me to make whatever needs to happen, happen.
I'm going to become a fine art MF-er in IRL.
I'm going to completely paint my face
it's full detail you know i'm gonna become i'm gonna become one of these nfts and
yeah we're gonna we're gonna shake shit up
that sounds like the documentary that's gonna happen becoming a fine becoming a fine art yeah did you did you make a skateboard with like a cool like you know handle
little knifey some fucking skateboards with knifey and shit like
you cut out like the middle part so you could grab it easier and stuff i think i remember that yeah right ride the knife uh i
still got i still got a couple skateboards i got made some new boards that i might put for sale
i'm almost like i printed some maybe make like an edition run of boards
i'm still working on my shop uh but yeah everything everything is arted up but yeah maybe next
fine art MFR meet up
like I just
I give us all tribal face painting we just make like
our fam
fam tribe
through Art Basel or something
that happened to be at
Basel whatever it is a couple years
ago there was a
artist tribal painting
and uh he pulled somebody from the audience and come up and he would like anoint them
you know and like paint on their forehead and he like pointed directly at me looks at me in the
eyes and like you come here and like maybe get up on stage and like he did his whole like
i don't even know what it was but i feel like i was anointed at that point into something
i haven't quite discovered but yeah that was that was really interesting it was fun
i have me crazy as far as like the installations they got. You were baptized
by like,
what's his name? That baboon
from Lion King.
Right, exactly. That's what it was.
Yeah.
That's how I felt when I was in the Amazon.
I actually,
I also have the other fruit
that's red, and I was just like putting it on myself.
You just kind of dig your fingers into that red fruit, and I was just, like, putting it on myself. You just kind of, like, dig your fingers into, like,
that red fruit, and I was just, like,
yeah, I was feeling like Mufasa.
Beet juice is a really good dye, too, to use.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't hemat your face.
Like, I do not recommend.
Like, my skin started peeling it was worth the it's
worth the experiment though but yeah only organic but yeah things things are
I'm excited excited for life in general yeah man if you ever find yourself out here in your glacier national
park make sure you hit me up um i'll show you some secrets there's some places that aren't in
tour books and such that are pretty magical out here it's kind of like narnia man i'm kind of
blessed i don't in islands calling me i'm really thinking probably within the next year to two tops,
I'll be living on an island.
But the mountain life suits me for a little bit longer, I think.
But I kind of go with the flow.
The universe does speak to me, too.
You're embodying the ape-man lifestyle for sure.
Yeah, for now.
I love it, dude.
I feel like you are the ape- right now that's my my main focus man
i'm putting like i don't know you know i'm i'm always available essentially to the team
but 10 12 hours a day i'm cooking in the background i'm actually gonna start cooking
on some other stuff tomorrow in a database with some people and a team thing just kind of for free but
man i i get bored like i do this you know full time so like i like i said i just said the word
board i don't get bored because i do this full time so i'm always looking for creative stuff to
do cool communities you know for sure like yeah yeah i would love to go out there though i'll definitely hit you up where's
that by uh so it's like the the northwest of latina it's just a little fleck there
so uh the towns are like you know calisville columbia falls um but yeah right i'm like 12
miles from the entrance to glacier national park if drive there, you pretty much have to go past the crib in like some capacity.
But yeah, there's a road there you should look up pictures of sometime called Going to the Sun Road.
And it takes you up this insane, insane trip.
And then when you get to the top, there's place called logan's pass and a hidden lake and
it is narnia man i've had baby mountain goats walk up to me where i could have touched it but i didn't
of course that would be wildly inappropriate um but it is unlike any part of the world i've ever
seen so if you do find yourself out here uh got a big network we got white water rafts and like electric bikes and like
like i said my family's been here for a while so um not just the normal tourist stuff we could
actually uh rip out in some pretty crazy nature spots and such damn i'll i'll i'll even like paint
something for you out there too right. Shit. Whenever I pull up.
So anytime, man, it's an open-ended invitation.
So I know you're a busy guy.
Then your house will be a tourist spot.
Oh, shit.
Everybody walk up to you.
Yeah.
We'll do like, we'll put up like like fake we'll put up like eight mans like their sasquatches
up on the like around the woods and people like freak out man there's a there's a lot of real i've
met a lot of people that have had sightings here um people that are fourth fifth generation. I know some, one gentleman in particular, my friend Josh, he's
Blackfeet, and he had an experience of, I'll just tell it as best as I can, but him and some other
Blackfeet gentlemen were out in a sacred part of Montana to them at least, and they were doing some spiritual journey, some ceremony, just an analyzant out there.
I'm kind of killing it.
But they were doing their thing out there in this place by a river.
And it was tall grass.
And you couldn't really see.
But some rock the size of, I don't know how he described it like a boulder a small boulder
can't they heard rustling in the woods and it kind of got freaked out and like two minutes later this
boulder came flying over their head into the river and it was absolutely huge like a human
couldn't have thrown it and they just slowly like kind of backed out of the area and left and didn't see anything.
But I've seen other people that have talked about that type of activity. I mean, I've talked publicly on this space about seeing an orb in the sky in my teenage years.
I'm a strong believer. I'm an experiencer as far as that goes.
I didn't see any beings, but like's more than meets the eye to this universe
and I've seen it.
It really is magical out here.
I don't know how to put it. I feel blessed to be
here every day I wake up. I'm just staring
at the mountains.
I do this full time, but I sit at a
picnic table staring at a mountain most of it.
It's nice out now.
I don't know. I'm just going to rambling myself now, right? I don at a mountain most of it. Like, it's nice out now. And I don't know.
I'm just going to ramble with myself now, right?
Oh, you're going to do it.
I got to pull up.
I'm having, like, all these... Yeah, I'm having just full callings to every type of nature to go, like, deep.
Like, yeah, just real deep into the earth.
Just dig. That's that's like my cause there's like a just really dope artist residency in alaska that i'm gonna submit to i just want to go
to the farthest depths of the of the earth like and there's yeah but i like living in the city
i maybe eventually i will live like in the nature
but bringing the lessons of like nature into the city and transferring that to what i do in the
city like it's i feel like has so much impact when i have like the force of mother nature
when i'm in the city it's like all right like
when I'm in the city.
It's like, all right.
I get it.
I get it.
Do you know that Fear song,
I Love Living in the City?
I don't know.
It's a punk rock song.
But I played punk rock for many years
in Twin Cities.
I lived there for 15 years
and did whatever I wanted.
And I, you know,
from Philadelphia area,
Allentown, Pennsylvania Pennsylvania stomping grounds growing
up and like I've been a city boy most of my life um but I got sober like a little over
almost a thousand days ago coming up on it like two years seven months I'm on alcohol and hard
drugs I'm uh California sober but uh yeah, man, I,
the city has always been a place in like, from here, I go to Seattle to see all the music still like Spokane.
And I know what you mean about taking that nature into the city vibe.
And it's like,
when you converge those two worlds and you have both sides of that
personality, it makes you a really well-rounded person you know
like i don't know what i'm getting at there but i i know what you mean about the city speaks to you
i understand that calling very very well it's a beautiful thing
yeah it's important it's time to
yeah
next year
I'm gonna
I'm gonna go back to Amazon
I'm gonna stay with another
tribe I think
yeah
I don't know
everything's just
I'm excited to see
where
where
the universe takes me next.
But I definitely want to take you up on
the offer one day. Yeah, absolutely.
Like I said, open-ended, my friend.
Speaking of, I'm going to
slowly wrap this up. I did have the second
giveaway up there, so I got the names on my
thing. I'm going to spin it.
Good luck to
everyone who's in here. I'm going to double-check.
But like I said, man, I really appreciate you pulling up.
I'm going to.
I'm not real.
There's another giveaway.
I'll put you in there, Bubba.
Hurry up.
But yeah, like I'm going to be doing these spaces pretty frequently.
If you ever find yourself bored, you just want to, you know,
pop in, say hello.
We're a friendly place.
I don't tolerate a bunch of crazy stuff here
um we really talk about whatever it ends up being art a lot because that's kind of what i'm into but
sometimes the market it's whatever sometimes aliens man i don't know read his vibe here
for sure
whenever I have a little pocket of time
I'm getting back into it
hopefully I got some more cool stuff
to share real soon
I got the watch
I can just like beep in
I'm entered now
oh yeah and then whenever you give that
fam away,
I'll send you a new one.
Oh, man.
That's crazy.
And Barefoot, you're in here.
You just won, homie.
Couldn't go to a better person.
I'll take a picture of this, but it grabs the show.
That's what's up.
When we were talking about being Barefoot,
and then we were talking about OK Computers,
and Barefoot had the cleanest
OK Computer out there.
Yeah.
Dude.
Yo, I'm so glad you got it, bro.
Your vibe.
I was looking at OK Computers,
and I saw a really awesome one
with American flag.
Yeah. There's a lot of cool traits in that collection.
Congratulations, Barefoot.
Oh, you're up here.
Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you.
And Marlon, man, you are the man.
Listening to your stories tonight have just been inspiring.
You know, I just, it's like you're a man on a mission,
just following the spirit of wherever it takes you.
And, man, I'm just so blessed to be able to be a part of a space where following the the spirit of wherever it takes you and
and i'm just so blessed to be able to be a part of a space where you got to share that thank you
very much man your art is just absolutely amazing and i am honored to receive that tonight thank you
very much let's go yeah barefoot uh hit me up with your ETH address. When this is over, I'll shoot it to you.
Yeah, I really appreciate all y'all appreciation and the energy.
And people inspire me the most.
So I love to share and receive cool stories from y'all and perspectives.
So that's what the art's all about.
It's about having fun at the end of the day
because that's the meaning of life.
Yeah, man, tonight's been vibes.
I'm glad it went the way it did.
I'm glad you showed early
and all the speakers came up here tonight.
Rob, I know you didn't have much time tonight.
You want to, man, I really wanted to,
I hope when you come back,
Rob's here,
Marlon,
because like the stuff he's doing in real life,
like with this Banksy NFT thing he did,
like,
I think like you guys having a conversation sometime might be beneficial.
He's kind of,
he's done bigger things in the art world than i it kind of blew my mind
like uh and i know you've been kind of quiet rob but like i kind of want to give you a minute like
i don't know if you got anything because like i just always love hearing what you got cooking
like if you want to kind of introduce yourself a little or something before we wrap this thing up
you might be having connection issues
yeah x is like that it happens oh you feel asleep yeah I would definitely love to hear more about a story.
If he's not on now,
I'll definitely tune in.
We'll definitely be connecting.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
If you guys get together in a space again,
I'm going to make up a bunch of fucking popcorn
and roll up a couple of fatties,
and this is going to be good.
Yeah, I really think uh if just
like hearing rob's story um sometime it's such a fascinating story and i think he only like
he like him just touching on it barely blew my mind um so yeah there's and you know um i want
to give a shout out to the funky flies people. Recently started talking to them.
They seem like really positive people.
They do a lot of in real life stuff.
So I'm trying to find, they just kind of put on my map.
I'm trying to find more of these, you know,
our communities and like extend all the branches and like, Rob, are you here?
I saw you unmuted.
Oh, unmuted again. You're a minute mystery. What's going on?
It's funny. Connection issues look like.
Probably. It's funny though, right? Very mysterious.
Take a lap.
Yeah, he is. Let's give him a second because I would like to give him a chance
before we wrap this thing up. I don't even want to say the things I'm thinking because I'd rather them come out of his mouth, I suppose.
Let's give him a minute because X is pretty wild.
But also the guy Mars Buggy.
I saw your ETH address, but DM it to Denim.
I'm in the room or 8man.
And after the show, I'll kick you.
The other fine art I'm ever.
It's Rob Beck.
Well, I appreciate you letting me ask you questions.
Nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks 8man for doing this uh this is freaking awesome um it i think it's just wild you know because like i'm taking you know taking care
of my parents like a lot and working and everything that i don't have time you know like i don't know
it's like hard to always like be where i want to be um but I've happened to make it to a lot of, you know, Marlon, like,
you know, gotten the MF flowers and was there when you, you know, minted out. I was there when you
minted and I'm here today. It's like synchronicity. So yeah, I love these spaces. I love, you know,
where we're going as humans when you're really tapped into, you know, um, where we're going as humans, when you're really tapped
into, you know, spirit and, and, uh, your purpose and things like that. You just, you don't have to
FOMO because you, you will be, you know, at the right place at the right time, meeting the right
people. And you may not always know, like, you know, what your purpose is or, you know, what
the meaning behind the connections are. And that's okay. Like, you don't have to know. Like, that's part of the mystery that's exciting,
right? So, yeah, I'm just, I'm honored, you know, thanks for having me up here. I got excited,
took over the microphone a lot. So, forgive me for that. But no, I definitely appreciate
what you're doing for the artists out here and um and for eight man and and for
people you know giving people a platform to you know to to talk and to express themselves and to
level up and and all these things so good things you know are coming each and every day and i'm
here for it so thank you no majestic i was yeah i was so happy you came up here and you came up here with such good
energy i was like i couldn't be happier that you took some time out of your night to come up here
and uh yeah so hell yeah the universe is definitely speaking i think to a lot of people tonight
and let's just mention fine Art, the cheapest one.
The floor is just rising. It's awesome.
Let's see. It's still too cheap.
It's $94 for the one.
The cheapest on OpenSea. I did price lowest to highest.
Still undervalued, but there's a lot of new ones on the market, and that's exciting to me.
A whole bunch of ones I have not seen on the market.
There's another cowboy hat on the market as of tonight since the show started.
Yeah, the 4154 is awesome.
Oh, yeah, do you see that one?
Oh, there's two more cowboy hats.
Holy smokes.
Wow.
You're going to buy this one.
This is nuts.
Yeah.
And we're on the main page of OpenSea, bro.
That's it.
The Pepe has one that he told me a long time ago that I should have got it back on for triple.
Wow, there's so many new ones.
I'm kind of just geeking out right now, actually.
Remember, you're broke.
You ain't got money to do this.
Yeah, my inbox, my email just got flooded with OpenCU offer emails.
It's happening.
It's happening.
Make sure you grab
some ape we gotta add to the strategic
art reserve
I'm gonna dump a bunch of these into our
strategic art reserve
I just want to ENS label it first
and then like let me know when you
hand out the MFR to find our MFRs
I'll send you fresh ones
for helping me with this face
doing that giveaway.
Yeah. I got one so
far and I plan on gathering more when I can.
For sure.
Y'all are some real
fine art connoisseurs.
Yeah. They couldn't
work out better, man.
I could
not have. I just can't
believe how many are on the market now.
Like what a beautiful thing, man. You, you came out here,
you chopped it up for a couple hours with us and like the life,
it just like breathes life. Like not that it wasn't there, man.
It's just like so many just hit the market that I didn't even know existed.
Cause like, I don't want to see all 4,200 at once and just look at them all.
I kind of like seeing them as they come up,
what people think they,
they think they're worth and own them the whole,
just natural hunting,
gathering aspect of this collection,
my friend,
very exciting time.
I appreciate you.
Yeah, babe. this collection my friend very exciting time i appreciate you man yeah baby it's real coded it's all really coded just keep zooming in keep zooming in i think i think that's a great way to wrap up the show tonight. Marlon, I super appreciate you. As I keep saying on repeat, I hope you're not a stranger and, you know,
you're busy, busy, but you can always pop in for five minutes,
chop it up and pop out.
You can just, you know, definitely I'll hit you in the DMs,
open-ended offer.
If you ever have any new projects coming up and you want to promo them,
just, you know, the mic's always yours, my friend.
You always have a microphone here, always and forever.
So I appreciate you taking time to show some love for the community.
I'd like to remind everyone to stay positive.
Remain humble.
As Marlon was saying, listen to the universe.
and listen to the universe, take your shoes off.
Take your shoes off.
So that's my tip.
So that's my tip, put your feet on the ground.
Put your feet on the ground.
Take a little time out there to actually like listen
and not with your ears, remain teachable.
And if you can just go out there
and spread a little more love and positivity
than you did the day before,
we all collectively do that.
I think that could be a tipping point and a high mind.
So let's just go out there and, you know, be the people we know we can be.
So any parting words, Marlon?
Keep zooming in.
Keep zooming in.
Keep zooming.
And, um, I did have something.
Don't doubt the creator's plan.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I will not doubt the creator's plan.
I will meditate on that tonight i appreciate you
and until next time much love much respect and remember just eight man have a good night everyone
have a good night
