Apillon AMA - NFTs , Moonbeam & Beyond

Recorded: May 11, 2023 Duration: 0:53:01

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Hey guys, welcome to our AMA with Apple on. Let's do a quick test here, Dom and Enino. Can you hear me? And is everything working here? - Good luck, Encleir. - Hi, hi, hi. I can do it well.
Awesome. Glad to have you guys here today. So I did want to get started just really quickly. Did you want me to hop back and forth between Nino and Domin or did we just want to just go through the questions from from top to bottom?
I think we can go back and forth. Awesome. All right, so let's get started. We can do some quick introductions. Can maybe Dominino just, you guys introduce yourselves.
Yeah, so my name is Dom and Ersek on the co-founder and CMO of Applone and I've been in the blockchain space I think since the 2010s 16 working
on one of the first ICOs in European Union and I've been working in marketing, in webtree space ever since.
Yeah, hi my name is Nina. I've been in crypto since 2017 had my own ICO then landed in an economy I was a CPU there as well and now I'm in web 3 with Apple on it's
Great. Awesome. Really briefly. Awesome. Thanks, guys. So let's go a little bit more dive a little bit more into Apple on. So, Dom, what is Apple on exactly and what is your vision here?
So what we're building is a web tree development platform that serves as a unified gateway to web tree services. And these services are provided by Polka dot barachains. So our vision is to accelerate the world's transition
to the centralized future and actually it all started back in 2019 with OTRL. This was a platform that provided data integrity solution, data transparency and traceability to enterprises in
And mostly in the European Union in 2021, I think we migrated from Ethereum to Moonbim and started to cooperate with the team under direct supervision.
few letters of intent with a few enterprises, both here in Slovenia and brought the European Union. We were working together with a few companies from Austria, Germany and so on. But they kept asking us if we can provide services
such as identity storage and so on, but we're just not on the platform at that time. So we saw the market demand for Web3 services beyond protecting data, made us recheck what we're doing.
And we went for a bit broader picture. We are right now providing solution that brings all these services together to developers and trying to provide a wider
So we have been working together with amazing teams from Web3 from Polkadot ecosystem such as Fala, Kilt, Moonbeam, Trust to say just a few of them and bringing this function to the world.
to our users. I don't know, right now we're still in the beta version of the platform, but the few number of developers that came to the platform, tried out, it's amazing. We had over 500 users already registered.
and trying to go to the platform. So yeah, I mean, it's been amazing. And I think that we're going to continue to grow with the -- also with the Moonbeam Corporation and providing the users with NFTs on Moonbeam.
And how did you get, how did you kind of like get to where you are today? Like what was that journey like?
So, I said first we were focusing on data integrity and working together with companies and we pivoted or switched our focus mainly to the developers that are in need of the services
and functionalities from the decentralized world. So it's bringing these functionalities in an easy to use way to the developers. It's what we've been up to ever since I think last year.
And it's been working really greatly. We've got some really cool feedbacks from both the founders of the of the parachains projects from the Polkadot ecosystem, as well as from our end users, which gives us some recognition.
and that we are on the right path towards the future. - All right, we'll do one more question for Domin and then we'll hop to Nino. So, Domin, why did Appalion choose NFTs as the first use case for the platform? What was the thoughts behind that?
Well, it's the first used case that brings together different bar chains and it's the first use case of Moonby network on the platform. So it's our audience
So far has been developers only, you know, so it's still not such a broad, broad audience and with NFTs that, you know, have a wider audience, we can bring new users
users both to the platform and to Moonbeam network as well, obviously to the web3 space as such. So NFTs can be used in multiple ways. We're talking with different
marketing agencies that are interesting in incorporating with us from sales to branding, etc. And we can bring new people outside of these
Developers that are using the platform right now. So meaning that we're broadening, broadening and widening the audience, which is great and we'll continue to do so in the future as well.
All right, next question for Nino, a little bit of a background on this. You guys are just integrated into Moonbeam and your announcement is today. So congratulations on that. And what was the, Nino, what was the main objective behind this launch?
Yeah, thank you very much for for the question. So like Donan said, we initially we supported the crust and their storage and IPFS, which means you can today come to Apple on drag and drop your files into the web browser or just use the API.
And those files go to IPFS, right? So next step we are talking to Moonbeam. We are ready to integrate. We are trying to enable as much as possible of smart contracts so we can say people are now developing DAPs and Apple and not only WebTree applications. And of course, as Domain said, we started
with NFTs. Now the first obstacle with NFTs is usually the metadata, right? Because if you store the metadata on AVS or let's say like FTX had the metadata on their servers and something goes wrong either, you know, it's stoppable. And
launching with Moonbeam integration on the NFTs, it gave us the opportunity to connect the NFT flow, the NFT collection deployment flow also to our storage and show that we are thinking in full stack way. So now you can go to
to Apple on put your metadata in decentralized storage, deploy your smart contract and then have develop your own front end website, which is self-sauron and hosted on Apple on with your domain in a decentralized way.
We're trying to prove here and show is that you can build like you would in Web2. You can have all the services you need in one point. Whatever you do is built on the parachain, which is in the background, and you can do something as complex as smart contracts.
So, yeah, I think this is the reason why we started with Moonbeam and also, you know, it's the opportunity to just use the existing ERC721 and import it and deploy it and, you know, it's well audited.
Everyone knows it and it's so good to test and to show the full stack that it was, you know, too good opportunity to pass. So how is deploying an NFTV app on different than say deploying on an exchange like OpenC?
The main difference is selling stuff on Shopify or Amazon. If you have something to sell and you go to Amazon, you are on one seller amongst many. Then if you decide and say, "I want to have my own shop, I want to have my own infrastructure, I want to have my own
commerce, you have solutions that do that, right? So with Apple on what you get is full sovereign self-standing infrastructure where your website talks to your NFT collections, Monk contract, and everything is hosted in decentralized way. So let's say if OpenC goes down for any reasons,
your shop will stay, your NFT collection will stay and it's unstoppable. So this is primarily targeted towards users who want to have full control over the design, over the ways when the NFTs are shown and because we are a development platform, there is no
no limits. So like even though we are providing everyone with an NFT collection template, no one is saying that you have to build an NFT collection. You can still mint NFTs, build a game, and once the user achieves certain level or achievement, you unlock those NFTs.
and this is already possible on that one so we should start talking in broader sense you can now go and start building games you can build loyalty programs you can build a lot of stuff and have this code be you know hosted in a decentralized way and use smart contracts in the background
Awesome. And, and, and, and from your perspective, I mean, what, why would somebody use Apple on the deploy deploy the collection rather than like some other framework or, or products? The, the key point is it's easier to use. So, you know, you can drag
can drop it in a matter of minutes. And so it means you don't need to be a developer, you know, to use it. And like I said, this means that our user base can be so much bigger, you know, from agencies to companies that would like to, you know, create and deploy
deploy NFT collections, everybody can become, in sense, a developer and create their own and create and deploy their own collections. So as I said, we're talking to multiple companies
that before couldn't do it and with Apple on will be able to create and do it. And yeah, that makes it somewhat special. We actually, right now we have a contest
also together with our friends at Moonbeam, so that the users, the people, the communities will be able to create their own NFTs using a tool like mid-journey and deploy it on Apple on.
And yeah, this can be done without development knowledge, which was unthinkable, let's say a year ago. So yeah, just the broader audience of users and easier to use would be the answer.
Awesome, and Nino, so next questions for you. What do you think are some of the use cases or like what were the some of the use cases behind the, for NFTs on this platform? Or let me rephrase that, what are the use cases behind the NFT development that you actually released?
Yeah, I touch this topic a little bit before already, but it's, you know, like I said, usually we see NFTs either in a collection or something, but if you just put your mind back into Web2 and say in JavaScript, we can basically build anything we want. You know, it can be a configurator, it can be an
commercial, it can be whatever we want. And now once you apply NFTs to this logic, you can achieve this, right? So you can create a collection which rewards with NFTs as specific customer in your e-commerce. You can close this e-commerce on Web
and unlock the NFTs and deliver them once some specific achievement is achieved or reached. It can go into gamification, it can go to IOTs, it can go anywhere. We are still not how to say specialized on the SDK level.
to the point where we would say, you know, this is a gamify SDK or this is a DFi SDK, etc., etc., but it's already possible to do that. So once you have an NFT and you want to reward someone with it or you want to sell it, you can build a lot of
stuff before this happens. It opens so many options. Once you can configure those NFTs either they are revocable or they are sold bound, those options are even expanded further. We have all those options in a sleek UI where you can choose which
And all that can work miracles towards building a new web-tree solution because at the end of the day tries the catered developers who want to see something happen on the application layer. So we are not sitting down and looking at the application layer.
on the dirty protocol level where for example Moonbeam is like where substrate things happen. We just say okay Moonbeam is doing their job great. They are providing this EVM compatible parachain. Let's just utilize this and go to the layers above that and say
what can you immediately build? So yeah, use cases are pretty much how to say there are thousands of use cases and as we are adding new pair of chains those use cases become easier to execute. So yeah, I can't wait to see what will happen.
So I just thought of a quick question. I mean, coming from a user who's someone who's not familiar with Apple on it all, you know, a lot of a lot of web three projects are obviously like blockchains or or their DAPs. You guys are just like creating more of like a developer tool. Am I correct? Maybe you could expand on
on the thoughts behind creating like an API service rather than creating a blockchain or that. >> Exactly. Yeah. So if you look at the bulk of that, how it's structured and how the architecture of bulk of that, we have all these parachains which, you know,
mainnet, they're providing exceptional business services. They're so specialized on the protocol level, like for example, if we take crust, they're doing just storage, right? So it's just storage, but they do it really well. Then if you look at Moonbeam, Moonbeam does smart contracts, EVM
compatible and they do it so well. Then you go to KILD, which does identity. So decentralize identifies, identifies, etc, etc. But no one is connecting all of those together. Now, if you're a developer, it doesn't matter if you're Web 2 or Web 3, and you want to
create a WebTree Instagram clone. The first thing you're going to need is how will users sign up. So in this case, we can provide you with, you know, in Kilt integration. So it's an API abstraction towards what Kilt does on the substrate level. And we abstract it in a way where you just say, I want a user account.
we created for you in the background on the blockchain. Then next step for Instagram clone would obviously be user would want to set their avatar or you know their picture. The moment they take this picture you need to save it somewhere. So we're not saving this to ABS, we're not saving anywhere else, you just call the API
where we have storage buckets available, very similar to ABS, with the difference that those files land on IPFS. And then you go forward and you say, you know, I want these users on Instagram that each of their photos that goes to gallery as an NFT. Well, luckily we have an ability for you to
deploy Moonbeam NFT smart contract and generate NFTs each time a user uploads a picture. So this is for example a really trivial case how this could go on but we're not stopping obviously just with the NFT smart contracts. We're going to expand for as
and add more and more and more, smart context, which are already interconnected with the other services that we provide. But it's very important to say everything we do sits on existing parachains. So we're not competing there. We're just utilizing, connecting, abstracting and making it simple.
also great, that's a great explanation. So going back to this deployment that you have, I know you guys said that your focus is mainly on developers, but as of now the NFT deployment, there's only available through a UI.
Am I correct? Do you like? Yes, API or CLI SDK look at it. However you want is usually with us it's coming a little bit later. Right. So we start with the UI. We battle on the UX front. We want to make
this as simple as possible and then in the next step we always add the API. So for storage, it's very simple. Like crust and pinning services, they do not understand buckets. You know, there are no buckets because pinning is at least, you know, six months of pinning happen
When you store something on IPFS, etc. What we did is we built an UX UI with simulates buckets. You can go into the UI, create a bucket, and then just call the bucket VI API and just push the files there. We're trying not only to
Say it's good UX, we're trying to mimic what the developers learned in Web 2 and give them similar experience. And in order for this to happen, we usually start in the UI where the things are visible and less abstract. And when this works, then we move to the API.
Now let's move forward. Where do you see the future of the NFT market in maybe six months a year from now, or even further?
Yeah, I think that there's going to be like multiple NFTs use cases from you know music, event, ticketing, real estate, supply chain and so on.
And I see more and more average Joe's coming into the ecosystem, which means they're going to need a solution like Apple on, you know, in order to create and use
the end to come into the ecosystem like Nino said we're making it real easier to use it and yeah it's gonna be a really really fast growing fast growing
ecosystem with brands people coming in and I hope that Apple on is going to be you know there to support to support its growth. I don't know do you have anything else to add? I mean I would personally love to
see games and NFTs. I know it's a topic everyone is talking about and it's so old but we are still waiting to see this in a really good commercially successful game or maybe a AAA game developed by really good game
developers who then add NFTs on top where it makes sense to boost the game mechanics, to boost the game economy, and to make users or players who spend a lot of hours in those games able to cash out and some points.
saying we should do play to earn all that stuff that i don't think that will be successful but i just want to see um nfts and games where really good players can cash out i think this this would be a really interesting next step and um for me nft
these games, or especially RPGs, MMORPGs, stuff like that, where achievements are involved, where skill is involved, this goes hand in hand because it has to be monetized. Like if someone is better than someone else, then it matters if it's in game, or if it's in real life.
different should matter also financially. And I think NFTs are a great way to show that. Yeah, personally, personally, my favorite use case for NFTs, I'm an avid gamer myself. And so, like, looking at it from like
The issues of gaming, you know, there's some new standards that have been released and I'm thinking specifically of like the remark standards and having like these nested, this nested ownership of NFTs. Do you guys foresee like integrating these contracts into the Apple on the suite in the future?
Yes, we do. I mean, you know, we are starting with Moonbeam and going forward with, you know, adding more and more smart contracts, but definitely remark has to happen. I see us as a great tool for anyone who would like to, you know,
a browser game or a quick game or a simple indie game, something like that and having those standards supported in a way we support a pair of chains and protocols on Polkadot, I think it would change a lot. So yeah, definitely.
So besides say just NFT contracts, what would be the next smart contract service for Apple on?
We are still working on that. There are tons of audits, smart contracts, which we can simply pull in and say, "Here's the library of smart contracts. With one click, you can deploy them." This is one approach, but we would like to see
go a little bit deeper and say can developers on our platform go into DeFi? So is it possible to develop a mobile app which enables you DeFi training and stuff like that? And if the answer is yes, if we figure out that this is the way to go, then we'll
definitely start with smart contracts or with a suite, it's really to a smart contracts that support that, bringing us closer to the use case. So I would say we will always think about what can you build, what can you achieve with this, is it, does this have a wide
like NFDs for example, NFDs can be a collection or can be anything else if you are smart enough to utilize them. And I think we should start with smart contracts like that. Do you plan on integrating some of the existing developer tools?
like for example remix, you know, I know a lot of API projects or like I'm thinking of like something like cookbook, if you've ever heard of that cookbook doc dev, they have these plugins that they integrate into remix. Is that something that you guys may be thinking about or have thought about?
not yet. So we are trying to go fully polkadot from the perspective like what does this parachain do? Right, let's say we take a mentor for example, right, they do privacy on demand and that's how they are they
they see it as well. Like if you do a transaction of NFT where you want to hide or achieve privacy, you just call their parachain and you can achieve that, right? So before going deeper into the smart contracts and
And really expanding horizontally, we still, I mean, really expand vertically in the smart contracts. We need to grow horizontally and say we need more and more other parachions which come with different services. Then we can go and say, now let's build more smart contracts. Let's add remakes. Let's go.
Wow, that's interesting, right? Because besides storage authentication and smart contracts, we are also looking to integrate FALA with compute, which is the entrusted execution environment, and any developer can build an Oracle or access any outside API.
with FALA and still be within all the Web3 parameters. So what I'm trying to say is there are so many great parachains out there that can be transformed into services and simplified VI APIs that we need to take care of that first.
Awesome, we're looking forward to the future and seeing you guys grow. So going through your docs, I noticed that you guys are releasing a token and it's called the Nectar token. Am I right here?
We're going to release the token in the short future. We've been postponing it for the past, let's say.
year, but yeah, it's going to be roll out as soon as possible. And it's going to, it's main role is going to be governance. We want to see and we want to hear the developers what they want on the platform and how they
see the platform evolve, you know, what to integrate and so on. So at first we're going to just use like a discord later on once the token will be released, it's going to be
It's going to be on chain. But yeah, we're still figuring a few things out. And once we do it, we're going to roll it out and create an environment where
are we going to listen to the developers even more than we're doing it right now? So I've noticed that you guys were also mentioned a sort of like an ambassador program. Can we talk a little bit more about that, how that works and how people can get involved with it?
Yeah, we've got multiple tiers of ambassadors already collaborating with us. Everybody can join us through our crew tree where there's
some tasks they get to do so that we see the engagement and the knowledge behind each and everyone and once they are on the way they grow they go through different stages
with senior ambassadors and our community manager, you know, helping them evolve and get the knowledge and grow as a, you know, as they get the knowledge about WebTrispace, Polkadot ecosystem.
There's a lot of people that are just joining Polkadot ecosystem through our ambassador program as well. So we get to teach them a lot about different stuff behind Polkadot and different parts. But as they grow towards through our
system, they get to get to the senior ambassador level, where we already see them as you know somewhat part of the team we have
Monthly calls, weekly calls with some of them, they are building their own user-based, they can create tasks for other ambassadors and they just share the knowledge and everything about
with their own communities and we support them at building their own communities as well. We see if our ambassadors grow as a number of follower growth or whatever, we grow as a company
as well. So yeah, it's a win-win situation and we really like what we are getting so far. So we're really getting engaged individuals with a lot of knowledge, a lot of, you know, with eagerness to build, to do their own
to do their own stuff in the Web3 ecosystem and use the platform, use Apple on them as well. So it's really like a mix of people that are really good at writing or creating events or hosting events or hosting AMAs and so on.
and people that are using the platform and showcasing the platform. So, yeah, we're going to put even more time into it, but so far it's been really cool and really helpful for us as well.
So now what about the different like incentives and grants? I noticed that you guys may have some sort of grant or incentive program. Is there, can we talk a little bit more about that and how people can kind of maybe apply or or or a bit more of it?
Sure, it's mostly related to our tokenomics where we are trying to build a proof of adoption case, which is nothing special. It's just a metric where we say this developer built this app and it registered so many years ago.
users because we have control over this via how many identities are generated via KELT. And those incentives are mostly connected to this. So we're not rewarding stuff that is randomly built or whatever. We are focusing
on the metric of adoption. So yeah, in this case, a specific how to say models and how we will approach this or yet to come, we're waiting to implement more parachains to have the full scope of the services, at least
and some additional small contracts have to come, maybe another parachain. And at that point, we triggered the phase two of how we are rewarding and incentivizing. So yeah, it's a part of the longer plan. We're not executing this right now, but it is yet to come.
So also I just wanted to shout out to everybody in the crowd. If you do have some questions, feel free to just pop them in the comments below and we'll definitely ask some of the good questions for the team. So yeah, just put them in the comments. We'll go through them. So you guys mentioned that
that you foresee helping bring more users to the ecosystem. Can we expand on that? How do you think Apple on can contribute to bringing users that are not necessarily polka dot, but from outside the ecosystem, maybe from ether, from polygon, and whatnot?
Yeah, it's right now we're kind of in the background we are starting a web tree hosting initiative which basically says like if you are in a web tree and everyone has
has a website. Why not host this website on Web 3 decentralized storage? Why do you host this website on centralized AVS or any other provider if you can do it today?
with the same performance and in an unstoppable way, which is distributed across the world on several IPFS nodes, which means essentially that even though crust is a par chain,
actually have several other blockchains as well supported. Anyone even outside of Polka.Ecosystem can come and utilize this. In fact, Uniswap is one of the products who is already
and do trading because the blockchain in the Pagron still works. And I think it's the initiative that we need to push to bring the awareness that a lot of products that live only of smart contracts
can also be run without the domain directly from IPFS and users can still do something. And this is very important for Web3 adoption. So yeah, basically anyone can come
in even from Ethereum blockchain or any other and say let's host our website here you know it's free and it makes it unstoppable. So I think this is a very reasonable first step and we have a good summing point.
I also had another question regarding the NFT minting UI. I noticed that when you're deploying your NFTs, you get a web page that's attached to it.
I think you mentioned that it holds the collection. But so does it also have the ability to mint the NFTs? So say, for example, I'm into collection with 10,000 NFTs in it.
Um, if I'm a user of like, if I'm a user of the collection, does that interface have the ability for me to like go and mint that NFT or is it just a place where you can see the collections for now?
No, you can also mint, you can also set royalties, you can start making money with this. So the whole point of this, not only campaign, but this release is also talking about mid journey where any user can go and with
semi-trivial prompts, they can create a collection of hundreds of NFTs which have, you know, silver lining and they are in a specific niche context, let's say sci-fi, whatever, and they can come here and simply deploy them. Like via UI.
And then users, which are advanced, they can still use the API and start building serious logic behind that. So when we are talking about this, it's like literally setting up Shopify, bringing your products and start your business. This is what we're bringing to the table.
AI is such a huge topic nowadays and mid-journey being one of the most popular AI tools that people are using. So it's great to see that you guys are implementing that. Do you have any other plans to integrate any sort of AI tools in the platform?
Not in a short roadmap or in a pipeline, but definitely there's a reverse how to say process which anyone could use. So whatever you generate with the AI, it's so trivial and simple to back up on our storage, for example.
So we can provide that, right, so that all your prompts go to a safe place and they're decentralized. Maybe you can share them. Maybe you can start selling your prompts on your website. Basically you have an encrypted file with all your prompts. You sell them on the website via NFT and another person can unlock it, right?
There are a lot of models and use cases which you can build around it, but we are still focused very much on parachains, services, and within this scope, we're definitely, you know, how to say tech loving people who we're monitoring the AI constantly and thinking how
can we bring AI to people to generate content because a lot of times NFT collections are not created because people simply didn't know or had the resources to generate art or to generate something. But now you can say AI can solve this part, which is
90% everything else is just deploying, etc. But it's the creative part that matters. And the major need definitely broadened the amount of people that can now enter the NFT space and bring really good illustrations or whatever into the space.
Cool. I love AI, so it's great to see that again, you guys are incorporating this. So can you guys talk about some of like maybe your future plans? Is there any alpha that you can release? Maybe some partnerships that you have upcoming that you'd like to talk about?
We have no alpha. I'm joking. Domin, do you have anything? I'm too honest. Sometimes I already told you all the alpha I had up to this point.
Yeah, so we've got quite a few of cool announcements in the pipeline for the next few months. We're going to be working together with ASTAR on some really cool functionalities.
We're going to start integrating FALA as Nino already said. We're going to continue to build together with Kilt so there's going to be some stuff coming out from us and
killed as well about that. And animation, SBP? Yes, so we've just got the confirmation from substrate builders program that we passed the first milestone, which is huge because
because it's been sheet load of work that we've put in this in the past I think five months. So there's that coming out from our offices I think next week. We're going to have a web 3, a web 3 approved campaign that
You know, already presented that's going to be focusing on hosting the not only websites, but all documentation, white papers, etc. from projects, not only from Polkadot ecosystem, but
from wider web-tree ecosystem. We're going to do product hand campaigns and so on. So yeah, I mean there's going to be a lot of everything coming out from us. We're going to, as I said, already start the government governance
Phase one, one click NFT deployment and quite a lot of interesting collaborations with some other parachains that perhaps right now are not in the pipeline but can really
really easily and fast get on the roadmap. I think that Nino has a lot of ideas how to grow the platform and how to add different functionalities, different parrachains to the platform. So I'm sure that the
there's going to be a lot of announcements coming out from us in the next few weeks and a few months. Oh, sorry, you're ahead. No, no, no, that's it. I was going to bring up, I mean, there's some new interesting projects that I think you
guys would be really great fit to be working with specifically in like block space as a service and app chain deployment area. And I know these guys, they kind of just, they just kind of like come out of, out of hiding, but the Tansy, are you guys familiar with Tansy?
Yeah, we know that. Yeah, we they pitched the project this Monday on the subsequent build program called and I was eager to see what they're up to. So I love it a lot. We share a lot of same goals, a lot of same
Same metrics on the case of adoption and moving more web to developers into web tree decreasing the complexity, abstracting more of Polka. A lot of stuff like that. I see this in their messaging and I think we're quite aligned on the topic.
Awesome. I'd love to see some sort of collaboration between the two. I think it could be really powerful for for people building in the ecosystem to just have this like easy, easy deployment and and so I look forward to some more announcements and hope you guys can can work with that.
So I just wanted to say if you know if anybody else had some questions just make sure you throw them in because we are coming up on the end here. Is there anything else that you guys wanted to mention before before we end the space?
I mean, just nothing much just to invite everybody that go and check our blog. It's been shared by Moonbeam as well, where we are, you know, discussing the NFT functionality and
rolling out the contest. We want to see as much collections coming out from the ecosystem, from the people that are listening and yeah we're gonna we're gonna go
give some awards to the best of the best and just to invite everybody that come on the platform, check it out and use it and yeah, go wild.
What about you, Nina? Any closing thoughts?
I mean, I agree, especially go go check out the materials, all these screenshots, how the flow looks like. What do we manage to generate via mid journey, those examples are also posted there and I think it's
great source of inspiration. Like, you know, when we're seeing anyone can do it now, we're not joking. It's actually there. Like, you can make serious stuff with the AI and then simply go through, I don't know, 15 clicks and you are there. You have your stuff ready.
Awesome. So for anybody who's listening and wants to try out the platform, they want to learn a little bit more. Definitely check out the applons website. It's appleon.io. Their wiki is there. Their community is there. And if you want to beta tell
they also have a little banner right at the top where you can register. So definitely check that out. Also, if you want to stay updated with all the news and announcements, make sure you follow these guys. Follow Nino, follow Domen and definitely follow the
Appalion page there are in the crowd here listening. It was great having you guys. Thank you for coming on and sharing all the news on Appalion and I hope to hear some more soon.
Yeah, thanks for having us and thanks for everything you do for the, you know, Web3 adoption and just, you know, talking about about some cool projects in the ecosystem. Thank you for hosting. Great hosting, by the way. Go Web3. Thanks, everybody.