hello motherfuckers all right yeah well how's it going yeah yeah got a bit of a
flu in it so how'd you get the flu fucking too much cop
no bad weather in it bad weather bad weather yeah yeah hello everyone Oh Jan
is here Oh cheeky Jan all right mate been a while you good good did he leave no
he's there give us a thumbs up so we know you were good do it do it do it anyway
you know all right well that's the end that's the end that done yeah so today we
have aqua libre with us we'll chat some shit first so just deal with deal with
that first sort of a few minutes yeah that's what we're about to do yeah
chat some shit what's what's going on in Kajira it's a little Kajira update let's
go through some things I wrote it down but you've written it on paper now so
well yeah I'm old school I do things on paper taper and a handshake mate yeah
that's good that's why I live yeah risk taker I'm a risk taker what's going on
then could you tell you yeah yeah and don't shout him out if he's not you're
lucky yeah yeah he wasn't gonna get one so also thanks for being here yes very
kind of you you're a good man you're a you're a scholar and a gentleman
what's going on it's slightly beautiful he's handsome he's good looking like I'm
okay to say that he's good looking if I was ever gonna you know there you go you'd
be in the you'd be in the you'd be in the conversation boy yeah what's going
with him then he's just saying his name yeah so like yeah if go join is a
telegram the Italian group cuz yeah if you're a if you're an Italian yeah
you're a dirty little Italian then go and get involved in in all the Italian
kajoura stuff happening we're Italian we're Italian yeah yeah yeah so yeah we
can say we can say that it would dirty scumboys because we are yeah we don't
speak Italian though so being there's pointless mm-hmm yeah it would just be
for moral support and I don't want to give it come for support we'll give
support yeah support it I don't understand it yeah it could be could
just be a group of just dissing us off these fake Italians we could be going
this group's brilliant and then we find out they're sort of building an island
somewhere everyone's you know you well you know what happens next
hopefully not yeah yeah well as always if you want to put some letters in the
in the comments for slurs or just write some slurs I'll try and try and use
them at some point yeah yeah if you got a letter yeah do the letters do the
letters or just write just write swear words in the comments do that all
questions for us as well questions or phrases or popular phrases from your
favorite your favorite television program what else is going on yeah there's a
kajoura meetup happening soon yeah where is it happening where's it
happening everyone's well only the capital of the world right yeah yeah
Dublin yeah it's happening in Dublin yeah so if you're a if you're of the Irish
persuasion or if you're not if you're just there yeah you know I'm gonna
Guinness that's really gonna see you want to meet some of the other boys yeah
like over to Dublin might even meet Conor McGregor because he's always out on
there yeah you might have to fight him yeah yeah if you're old enough but to
be fair you might have a chance current McGregor to be honest most people here
would be him yeah most of us would be him yeah that's on the 9th of February by
the way yeah I hope it is anyway I mean I've my real general is where is yeah yeah
oh we got some letters we got somebody over to the meetup funky funky you'd be
you'd be great there to be fair funky turns any party into a party that's
better mmm let's give it a cue as well yeah we got cue from Ross cue are yeah
go and say it say it I know what you're gonna say go on call him it cool Ross the
word cool Ross the way call him the way yeah we all think it the same go on
buddy cockwomble from tea cranks teague yeah always always always great yeah so
he's a good guy we had we had food with him the other we did a food with him
yeah we went for a meal with teague chicken and waffles we had chicken
waffles I nearly lost all of my teeth because I bit the fork really hard I
mad I just bit the problem isn't it I've never eaten a waffle before
so like sort of the mechanics of it sort of confused me kind of fluffy but you
don't know the density well I didn't want to get the sauce on my hands so I
forked it from the other end I went through the back bit into it really
hard and I that was pretty much my first bite and then I spent a lot of
the evening thinking am I in trouble with but I think I've recovered
psychologically psychologically psychologically I'll never be the same no
no I'll never be able to eat normally again I'll never use a fork yeah that's
for sure and foods chopsticks chopsticks because they're pathetic yeah
he uses chopsticks it's kind of like witchcraft honestly what's the point why you use the worst
your tensile then your hands let's make this as difficult let's make everything a
challenge let's make it difficult have you ever tried that soup with chopsticks
I love China I love Asia and all that but like you like calm down not everything
has to be like oh look at look oh we're the best at everything there has to be
some challenge yeah outrageous but no good on them yeah what else astroport to
kuji no yeah all right why what's the point yeah I don't think it's a good
idea I don't think it helps us do you know that that sort of picture what people
do where they open a door and it like there's blood yeah afterwards that's
kind of what they do in it yeah I mean yeah I don't think they help kujiro too
much and also they're scumbastards so yeah I guess we could say it talked
about the TV oh that's what's what's the current weekly TV it was like one
yeah with 27th so yeah in the world yeah with 27th in the world so yeah
get into that podium spot put your thumbs up thumbs up focus you're up yeah 27th in
the world who else is 27th in the world probably like Switzerland or something in
football yeah like Switzerland would qualify for the World Cup just one
winner we might get to the knockout stages it's possible you might get an
easy group that's where kujiros at now but soon we're gonna be challenging
gonna be challenging for that title yeah yeah we're gonna be like England of 66
gonna be England of wealth 1066 but they're not really well in England I guess
you don't need a history lesson you know a lot of good wars have happened
we're seeing KP tonight as well yeah we go for a lot of meals lately yeah so we
do business meetings yeah we're just businessmen we're just businessmen
business men we're just a couple of businessmen doing business last week
we had two business meetings yeah we're still in business business we'll be
we'll be eating meat us and KP abroad you're gonna be I've got the flu so I
just got to have soup me and KP gonna be in some kebab later that's that's a
restaurant we're not going to a brothel but yeah good times okay yeah that's
probably you know let's uh oh we got another another fat bastards you thought
you're talking to us cash or cache or whatever it is your stupid little name
you're fat how about that fat cow yeah I want to say that as well was that Peter
K if I don't know who was that Keith lemon love a bit of Keith lemon so do I
wonder like us well we're gonna find out if not we'll add another so everyone
today it's a big one big one today how big at the moment he's putting his hands
out like super wide imagine imagine it imagine as far as a small man's arms can
get that's where I'm at but I'm trying to get further but I don't have what it
takes if I did I would be aqua libre yeah
right I go after no good how's life oh get in there like you've got a bit of a
touch of flu but soldier on how did you get your flu not the same way that you
guys did yeah no yeah we've we have been in we have been in saunas lately yeah we
have been in saunas you might have been that's the truth I hope you get the cows
off that's a good idea give everyone a sort of you know what you want you guys
are on what you're doing and stuff is a CEO but the sale happening now yes we
jump straight yeah let's jump in a deep end well yeah pilot as you all know is
is live we're running that till the 31st next Wednesday so so far so good I
think it's taking shape just doing more and more sort of this type of stuff now
just spreading the word we've obviously got some of our other guys that we're
looking to sort of still on board holding the hands of some of our web to
guys you know a little bit of a hand-holding process just getting some of
our bigger investors in but they're coming so all in all it's all taking
shape business-wise in the background is all looking good as well you know that
that is obviously in full swing Tony's obviously been up in town today again
sort of carbon credit relating meetings meeting clients meeting buyers so we're
just laying all the foundations for you know the official launch to get everything
up and running and away we go yeah I mean I think you know that I mean you
know we've had a little little chat before you know I mean I think the
numbers is definitely something people are gonna wanna get a good idea I mean
let's let's jump in let's let's kick off with some basics here so like
let's do it two ways so first we'll pretend that I'm sort of a summary
tard and you know you've come to me and you want to tell me what exactly a QLA is
yeah so just for everyone we do have a mixed ability audience usually Tony are
you there do you want to kick off no Tony's not there so let me kick off
look a QLA ultimately is we're building a carbon digital platform which the
market of carbon credits you know for those who don't know carbon credit
represents one ton of co2 you know reduced from the atmosphere these are
becoming an asset in their own right which we will be selling on to
corporates with a small arbitrage the bigger picture down the line is to
develop our own carbon projects which will actually produce you know several
millions of carbon credits annually and at that point in time obviously we are
the owners of the carbon credits and obviously have a far bigger margin on
the actual sale of these credits the the market is obviously it currently sits
estimated around sort of 2 billion for the carbon credit market annually but
I mean you know it's due to expand exponentially over the next sort of
10-15 years so our goal really is to bring on corporate clients which we've
obviously got now through previous dealing in business and what we're
actually you know expanding the place right here to the point where we're
going to go out to small SMEs work out carbon footprints build work out their
actual emissions and footprint of their business and actually start building the
marketplace on a smaller scale scaling up right the way through to sort of
large corporates now you know the likes of Microsoft Google that actually want you
know several millions of carbon credits at any one time and that is our
marketplace in a nutshell and you know that needs to be developed the liquidity
in the market needs to be expanded and that's obviously what we're trying to
achieve for the business perspective yes it's essentially a real web web to
company coming into coming into this space absolutely and the reason why you
know we've chosen to go down the web 3 route is you know carbon credits being
brought on chain is you know a valid use business use for us and it's a great
use for actual carbon credits equally and then obviously with that to have our
own sort of native token alongside that and and to obviously bring you know a
greater awareness to you know what we're trying to achieve as a business
we believe that the crypto space could certainly help that but that's kind of
what what the ground scheme was wasn't it what the kuji boys always wanted bring
it in it is into web 3 and that's the point of crypto yeah we talk about you
know all the things we want to how big we want crypto to get if we're doing
that we've got to bring web 2 into web 3 otherwise you know otherwise we just
and I think that a lot a lot of questions get asked you know why we've
gone down the web 3 route and it's you know they're valid questions partly I
think you know long term for the business I think this is a great way and I'm
bringing obviously carbon credits on chain is I think where most of our
competitors in this space are going you know there's registries which hold
carbon credits and they are all being digitalized all being brought on chain
so actually for the future proof of the business it's obviously where we see the
future of the business over the next five ten years and also you know from
from the perspective we could have gone down the normal equities route and just
gone and raised money in the city from an institutional perspective but you know
we feel that actually this is a better place for us we're in control of the
business from day one we're not obviously going out to sort of a
standard private equity site set up and I think it works and you know it's
proven to be work because obviously people are engaging on the pilot raise
and we're obviously getting money in which is great yeah I mean we get well
we get we get a cup it's up to a pretty pretty bloody healthy number of the
minutes pretty much so half half way point is coming up to almost four six
nine four six so yeah so there's obviously some money coming in we've
still got some good glossy you know pledges that we need to obviously get
in as well so that that's all come into the party as well so that's good
and I think then we just obviously move forward I mean there's not a fallover
point necessarily on the raise I mean I was actually with hands last night and
we were discussing various sort of strategies depending on where we sort of
fill up or don't fill because the way obviously you know the the smart
contracts are worked at the moment is sort of a kill-or-fill basis but I
think we're gonna just discuss whether if we get to a certain point that we're
happy that we list whatever the weather so we discuss that strategy but I think
for the minute as long as we get in what we believe we can get in over the next
two or three days that's a conversation for us to have at the weekend and
obviously we will notify everyone sort of well in advance of the closing of the
sale as well on that I think sort of another interesting thing here is it's
not you know I mean a lot of crypto companies if we're honest you know
people are in crypto have an idea of something and they sort of try and make
it happen whereas I think you know the difference here is you guys you
have a lot of experience in this world and you're sort of coming in the other
direction so you got the you know the the experience of this industry maybe a
little bit on your background in relation to that. Well look my background I've been in sort of
the regulated markets for you know the last 10-15 years I've known Tony our
CEO on a personal level for just over 20 years and obviously he approached me at
the latter end of 2022 to actually come and help him out with the project he'd
obviously been heavily involved in sort of researching the actual carbon markets
so his knowledge even of the carbon space is far greater in mind but I
obviously have the business sense and the background and obviously the ability
to potentially go and actually raise capital if we needed to sort of the
business for the startup side of things and we very quickly on we know
we're always a conundrum between how we sort of base how how does the token
align with the business and how does the token align with the actual carbon
credits and obviously there's that gray area if you sort of fully align carbon
credits with a token one-for-one then you sort of get into sort of security
issues and all the rest of it so we didn't want to go down that route but
equally we would always the conundrum was how we actually drive value back
to the sort of token and obviously just by chance you know the story is
sort of pretty common knowledge now that I met Hans and we discussed and
you know he opened my eyes to the sort of Kajira ecosystem and chain and
obviously then what's evolved since is obviously how we can actually add further
benefits by some of the other applications within the system so you
know there's obviously been stuff as you could probably see on the socials about
obviously us putting some funding into ghost again just how we can benefit
that system because a lot of people within the Kajira framework so well you
know what do we get out of this how does it help us as a as a you know an
ecosystem but there's actually lots of things within that ecosystem that will
help and actually can generate fees both for Kajira stakers and obviously
ultimately AQLA stakers yeah I think what's quite an interesting thing
actually I know you said you spoke already maybe some people haven't heard
this the story of how you came to be on Kajira really I mean it is quite a
sort of it's a mental story really yeah might be nice for people to sort of
hear that you know it was a very I think it was a Thursday or Monday night
I can't remember what in a pub in southwest London and you know the pub
wasn't particularly busy I was on a table with a friend and we had actually
been speaking to a potential investor so we were obviously talking carbon credits
were obviously talking blockchain crypto related conversation and at the end of
that conversation you know a guy approached me and said look I'm sorry
you know to disturb but I overheard your conversation can you have a chat with
my friend I was like yeah of course and you know so he was in earshot of our
conversation which given that the pub was you know 90% empty was a pretty
random occurrence anyway so we ended up having a chat and obviously that was
Hans and he started talking about Kajira and I'd heard about Kajira but
obviously certainly wasn't familiar with any of their their products and apps
that they offer and we just started talking and you know his advice at the
time was very useful to us and it was sort of it was a sort of real
sort of guidance conversation and we went away and ultimately ended up meeting
up again and subsequently met up again and we would just we just started to
plot and plan and he liked the fact what we're doing as a business so
totally got that and then it was just working out how it can sit within sort
of your framework and how actually maybe look we can be beneficial to both
parties he obviously talked about the the new pilot launchpad and how we can
obviously get going on that because you know at the time we were sort of
navigating all of these you know tier two tier one exchanges were mostly
bombarding us with you know listing options but all of them were you know
eye-watering sums of money all of them were you know requesting millions of
tokens in receipt as well so we just weren't comfortable with that process but
everything within sort of Kajira seemed to sort of fit and as we sort of
evolved and got to meet other members of the team and sort of brainstormed
and just worked out exactly where where we can actually really maximise on the
the value for both our business and the Kajira ecosystem and I think we sort of
we found a real sort of nice blend at the moment and I'm sure you know if we
do our business side of things and everything else will take care of
itself I'm fairly confident of that yeah I think we should go into should we
go into well no I mean that's sort of you know that's that's really how I
feel about it you know I haven't haven't checked you guys back to you as properly
and that is I see you see the business side is working it's happening this I
mean and yes that's if that all goes well this I mean this this really should
be sleeping giant whilst we're just literally as a startup now just about to
launch the token etc we've been in pretty deep business for the last sort of
13 14 15 months so there's been actually sizable deals that we've been working on
and you know timing wise maybe stars will align we'll see but you know if we
get some of the deals that we've got and have been working on for some time
over the line then you know we're after a great start and you know there's
there's things we need to discuss in terms of the alliance structuring but
again I think we can pretty much start that if we set it to zero zero so it
allows people to sort of officially stake from day one so if we do any sort of OTC
deals until we actually on boards and credits on to chain they will obviously
benefit from that and obviously we've got to work out what sort of split
kajira stakers get with a QA stakers and so forth so there's there's some
ongoing conversation needs to be sort of thrashed out all of which will
obviously notify the community as and when we've actually got to that stage but
you know it's exciting times for sure yeah I think something I mean yeah what
people really gonna want to know I think is that is that you know the numbers of
these things just just to give people the size of the future economy because I
mean I mean yeah except for myself and probably probably most people here
probably you know saw this without really understanding how big it is I
mean in terms of how this market is you know the growth the future of it I
mean how does that look look for you guys well I mean there's various you
know analytical reports and anyone can spend 10 minutes googling them you know
Morgan Stan is and co you know but people are estimating the market to be
250 billion by 2050 so we're coming into a space which is the very tip of an
iceberg you know and if we can sort of establish ourselves get a real little
stranglehold which we're starting to achieve already because even now in in
London people are aware of aqua labor people are aware that we are sort of
quite a go-to business to speak to in terms of placing carbon credits brokering
carbon credits creating new methodologies for new various products that
will ultimately go on to generate carbon credits so you know at the moment it's
a 2 billion marketplace which is still very very healthy and if you see as it
continues to grow as more and more companies will you know require to
offset their carbon footprint and you know that it trickles down into every
aspect of life you know property developers now are having to you know
work out what they're doing their carbon footprint to get the planning permission
and that planning permission then creeps into being able to get the funding so
if they're building 300 flats in London these are things that their
businesses now are having to you know hurdles that they have to overcome and
it was right the way down to small estimates you know you go into Nando's
you go into you know you get on a flight to easyjets as your seat has
been offset but some of these companies at some point will end up you know it'll
become a carbon tax where us as retail guys will have to pay so you know we've
got ideas about reward cards where you know people can you know almost like a
points reward system where we can actually achieve sort of an offset
themselves and there's lots of ideas that we can obviously create to build
the market and the awareness but it is creeping into every aspect of life and
you know it's only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger you know
I think you're kind of saying it with laws happening right now you see the
push whether and whether you like it or not there is going to be a requirement
from these big companies who are polluting crazy amounts and that is it
in a nutshell you know they they're not going to want the bear the cost so
the business is claiming to be carbon neutral they're achieving that by
offsetting their carbon footprint by effectively by buying carbon offsets but
that comes at a cost to the business you know so we each and every way
you're gonna see that cost unfortunately being passed on to the
retailer you know and it's happening now and you know in small SMEs that even
aren't thinking about it at some point they're gonna have little tenders where
you know they're tendering to a larger company and that larger company will be
looking at them to say well what are you doing about your carbon footprint so
it will creep into every angle and at the moment obviously we're working in the
voluntary carbon market and only the voluntary garden market so you know the
clues in the name it's voluntary but you know that it will become almost if
you're not carbon neutral you're sort of frowned upon yeah especially over the
last couple of years you know this is only gonna get a lot
crazier I mean it's a conversation is happening constantly you know yeah
climate your footprint everything it is well I've even seen a mastercard or even
a kind of tracking your transactions to see how much pollution you're doing on
their cards yeah so and you'll get you'll get rewarded based on you know
where you know if you're going by a load of steak for example that'll be a
no-go there's lots of things I think that you know the consumers will end
up facing as they become more aware of it you know in the next five years it'll
be found upon probably to be driving a diesel car or you know a non-electric or
hybrid car but I mean it's happening and and the car you know the clients
are getting their nose in front now they're equally building the marketplace
for us we've just got to be at the forefront to make sure that we've got
enough projects that we're integrated with for the credits or with developing
our own project so we're constantly creating the pipeline and the supply
will be there and the demand will be there yeah because I guess some of us
have read about about the airport schemes and stuff and you know if you
could go into into what some airlines would like to do and stuff like that
would be would be good there about and they're all clients of ours somewhere
down the line you know as we get more established and everything else all of
those all of those corporates are going to be attacked from our sales
perspective to get them on board with Aquila that is the plan yeah it's just
such a fascinating future really when you think well yeah I mean whether you so
sorry I mean that whether you like it or not this stuff's happening yeah you
know I mean that's just that's just the reality this is this is how I see it so
this is just just just for me you know you know I you know some of these
things I don't think about too much you know that I just want my trainers to be
comfortable you know yeah but but I also see this stuff is becoming big yeah this
is becoming big and there's got to be places that are taking care of this this
this thing that's happening future markets well it's an emerging market you've got
you know it's an emerging market a lot of these projects are also emerging
countries you know from Brazil to Colombia Pakistan Indonesia I mean these
are big areas of sort of forestry that that are emerging as part of the
forefront plus you've got all the sort of green tech side of things you know
direct air capture which is physically you know capturing carbon from the
atmosphere and locking it away so all of these initiatives where project
developers are going out and thinking right we want to create a solar farm
we want to do a direct air catcher project they're all eligible for carbon
credits on top of whatever revenue they can produce from their you know actual
day-to-day business and that is where the markets being created and that's
what's incentivizing that's the whole point of also carbon offsetting as well
it's another perk for someone to actually go and create a green project you know
so that's what's encouraging this drive and initiative yeah I'm just so I
just just adding in as well there was an article written today by a bit about you
guys by governing McGovey Gov is sort of a friend he sort of you know he is what
he is so be good for if people want to give that a read as well you're gonna
post it and look on my phone yeah is outrageous absolutely it's a absolute
there we go is it is opposed to no but that's fine wait go on go on one more
time I shared in space there we go there we go twice twice so yes double the
effect does something get the sake I'll see how people gonna give that a read
after as well and then but there's loads there's a ton of information on
the pilot site as well back to where we were sorry that was just too late
people didn't read it read it now no because because then you won't be
listening and you'll you'll just be sad you'll make a real mess of things yeah
yeah okay next point so right I think it's probably a good time to get on to
the sale itself the token I mean yeah so obviously you guys have chose to do
your raise via pilot fusions pilot same as we did yeah we did the same thing
with with wink up yeah when was that in May or something it was like May wasn't
it seven or so it's a great little launch pad for sure it's brilliant I think
I think the fact that you know we haven't set a price you know surprise
discovery as well as a launch pad which is great we're not setting the price on
our token people can read and do whatever research they want to do to
think whatever you know we could you know become in the future so but at that
point in time you know fill your boots and take whatever discount you see fit
and I think I think it works brilliantly I think people should know
because because unlike asset which you things for people to know so it's not
XLR USD see it's native so noble USD see this self so get your normal USD see
ready yeah not that not that annoying and rap version we had to deal with you're
gonna be guided otherwise yeah get ready you can trade it on Finn wrapped a thing
anyway like one-to-one so I mean good yeah if people aren't familiar with pilot
here I think probably most of you are but you know if you're not if you're
not it essentially uses the orca biggest mechanism reading system style for a raise
you know so it's a little it's a little different to your classic one in the
sense there's a little more I suppose trickery to it really you know
gamification it's sort of a game it's a bit like a game yeah but with money
anyway so should we tell people people should know anyway so basically the fee
structure of pilot so theoretically if they have a hundred grand they raise they
would pay five percent to stakers and then same as a how you withdraw your
tokens you give a zero point five percent of your tokens away to stakers
so that's so we'll get rid of all them jabronis asking for when a drop and stuff
there's your sort of a yes there's your there's your airdrop guys go straight
to kuji stakers yeah yeah so you got your five percent of the USDC and half a
percent of coins half a percent of the coins are exactly the same as we did it
yeah and look how great it worked for us guys it's a nice bit of money
straight away into the pot you know from day one it's nice to sort of say that
we've contributed from the moment we list which is great
that's what I like as well they haven't taken anything we were saying that yeah
we were sitting in we're sitting in there we've been a sauna yeah yeah sit in
a sauna again getting away the flu it's just completely normal just sitting in
sauna and we were saying yeah like you guys have come with a real web to
business haven't asked for a penny from the community pool or anything like that
and are literally going to be giving back from day one yeah no grant no gift just
straight into it I think the community should support more projects like this
people are just trying to build no we were having a conversation about this
last night I think like anything you know you've got to have new blood
coming in constantly to not become stagnant I suppose and you know the
other projects by the way you know there's other exchanges that are looking
at this you know that I'm getting I get telegrams or daily from other exchanges
that are looking at pilot and also looking at the success of what we've
launched because even now it's a fair chunk of cash that's in there and you
know I think certainly by the end of it it will even be more successful but
the so other other exchanges are looking at this you know this is putting
kajira on the map because and other probably token you know issuers will be
also looking at this thinking this this has been a success this is this is that
this is a route that we may want to go ourselves equally so I think all in all
it's great for everyone I think actually we should say one thing because I
remember there was a lot of people on the wing so if you forgot to activate
their bids don't forget to add your bids because if you just bid it but
you haven't activated it you're gonna you're gonna be so you haven't even bid
no then you've just gone on a website yeah it's actually like signing when you
actually place your initial transactions that you've got so yeah which I think
it's a sea shanty isn't it yeah just toggle that and then Bob's your uncle
happy days so I think what's what's a good thing to jump into now like is
obviously people yeah people would be thinking about buying the token if
if you're someone that's coming into the cell and that you're thinking right I'm
gonna get this a QA token what is what's gonna be the utility of that what's
the what's the reason someone wants to have this token oh there's this you
know there's two losses well you've just got the pure speculation factor the fact
that you know you can get in at one cent and and believe that we're gonna do
our trade and with that the token will see will increase secondly we've
obviously got the whole the staking rewards so you know that's really where
we see ourselves we're a real yield staking we're not just printing more a
QA to our stakeholders they will be getting rewards in real USDC from our
sort of carbon trading activities so that really and obviously that a QA will also
be a potentially a gateway to also physically buy carbon credits as well so
that'll be you know US dollar as well as a QA if you're holding a load of that
and you actually want to buy some carbon offsets you are welcome to do that
equally with with a QA so they are the real sort of fundamentals of where we see
you know the benefits in the token and the utility of the token you know
trading day trading great but then the longer term stakeholders I think will will
be really where we envisage you know the the token derived value to to come from
you know real real real real real trading real yield plus some yield obviously
depending on if we've got surplus cash for the business you know the real thing
we're gonna want to utilize ghost as well so and off the back of ghost you
know this is the strategy that we've been discussing you know we can actually
quantify the yield that whatever is on ghost that's being benefited in terms of
any compound interest to our stakeholders as well so you know whilst our big deals
might be sort of you know once every month two months six months however it
sort of pans out if we've obviously got a chunk of capital sitting within ghost
it sits within sort of the kajira framework and then that also can
benefit any stakeholders as well so and then that way that can also be
quantifiable because depending on what we've got there it's quite easy for
people to work out what that's going to bring in yield month on month
consistently that's just another perk if we've got you know surplus cash
around the business which you know while we're not needing that
business that that capital and it's just sitting in a wallet or our bank
then absolutely you know our plan is to deploy into ghost as well which will
just generate more fees and more rewards for stakeholders
and that'll be real USDC as well so people can borrow against it
lend against it whatever they want to do so that is the plan
pumping them numbers that's what we're doing that's what we're doing
people using these kajira yeah these sexy kajira products
the products are there that you know coming from sort of more of an
institutional background the whole order book thing
i mean that that to me was the first sort of appeal what you've got an
order book i didn't know there was order books on chain
and you know and that ultimately was a big attraction because
and then the fact that you can borrow against and in fact you've got the
lending module i mean it's it was all there and that that was part of
the big attraction to the whole you know the whole chain in the first place
yeah there's this this full defy system you know and i think i think now
ready ready to blast before yeah i think it's expanding now isn't it and
that's why that's where you know people like yourself come in really
it's this so we built this base now we're adding these blocks on top
that make it yeah a full sort of world of products really
as we were saying only what maybe six months ago the tvl was what
10 mil 10 15 now and now we're well over 100
so you know we're a good seven to 10x of where it was back then
in the whole you know the whole kajira you know token price is probably based
around the tvl isn't it in terms of sort of so the more
more that builds the more it benefits everyone and the whole
the whole ecosystem so um it's it's funds under management it's the
same as anything isn't it really
i um yeah one thing i i i'd go for your documents and stuff one thing
that i found quite interesting so obviously we've got this pilot sale up
now and yep i mean the average fill price right
now is about uh is uh 1.2 cents roughly
and the money that's what i mean we've still got
oh how long we got now it's it's midday on the 31st
six days effectively yeah this is going to change a lot guys
you know i mean there's i mean we we know that last sort of
there's last sort of few days yeah the last few hours are
what and the most of the sort of you know i suppose the community why
why would they want to tie their money up two weeks ago it's pointless so i think
a lot of people i think if they want to have a go are
going to come in sort of now between now and
you know over the weekend and uh we'll see where we go
yeah um you tell us a little bit about the pro investment because that's
something that stood out to me was sort of
you know the to be honest the price of what that was
people were yeah so obviously the business has been supported from you
know we've been chugging along now in our own little world for the last
you know nearly two years and um we've obviously got some
you know part of our foundation team um and advisors
you know have all put capital into the business and um
we've obviously raised you know 950 which has sort of supported
the business we've still got some cash in bank
um and that that was sort of on the basis of token sales around the sort of
five cents mark so um you know these are guys that were
were in way back when um that have actually you know
bought tokens not gifted tokens physically bought tokens invested in the
business um and and you know they're all in for
the long haul like us you know so they're all vested
for 18 to 24 months and um you know so they were they were happy with what they
know of us and the business and the model everything back then so
you know anyone i think getting in at one now is is is
for sure it's a it's a great discount yeah i mean yeah
i feel really you know look we i mean we i know we
i i say you know we can't say what to do but we kind of can
stuff on it um i think i think unless unless we over subscribe massively which
is that there is definitely a chance if some of the big guns come out
um then you know the one cent is there for the taking
so um go and grab it if you talk about really when you think two
how long a year and a half ago two years ago the market wasn't as big then
and as well you're getting a lower price potentially now which
you know uh so for me yeah i mean for me this is
looking at this looking at this industry looking at
what you guys are doing and saying it in a really really simple terms
is this market and is this section of the market you guys are taking care of
is that gonna be bigger than where we're at right now and i personally
i've seen no way there isn't i mean it's it's we it feels like we're
really in it at the start we see we see what they're doing in the
e we have a new laws coming in and stuff like that so
yeah you could have cop 28 and goodbye i mean it's
it's it's all big headline news at the moment you know you've got
everywhere you look if you're right now you're right it's sort of a
a weight to it or you'll see everywhere you look around you'll start seeing oh
carbon this carbon that net zero this net zero that it's
um you know once it's sort of like anything on the sort of forefront of
what you're you know looking at it suddenly becomes
actually what i should say actually if you want
if if any of you jabronis don't know how pilot works
there's a video yes i saw that actually today
yeah so fun that was from the kajira one of the kajira academy
there's two videos oh it's two what there's two videos about funky
it was about funky there's multiple videos there we go
videos are happening there's too many videos popping off all over the place
maybe we'll make a video for this three yeah and then just delete there too so
i only got one key and crypto tube if you could delete your
funky maybe just uh yeah post it even in the comments
even linked to your hands as well from a sonar perspective i don't know whether
there's some release that you're talking about whereas at the moment you
have to also technically connect your wallet to a third party
laptop or whatever so i think you was trying to integrate actually pilot
directly with the sonar wallet so you could actually just do it all off the
mobile without having to connect to a third party
um web app so i mean whether that's going to be released
between now and then i don't know but it's certainly something on the cards
yeah that's that's sort of alpha there we go just drop some alpha there we go
wow nice there we go everyone to be fair then boys i mean yeah
hands he's all right hands only yeah he's uh he's 24 seven he's quick
he's a freak in a good way yeah he's a freak
yeah right yeah just leave it out i do love him i love
it if anyone has any questions yeah just please
uh pop them in the comments or if you're i'll be the judge of this if
you're not if you're a jabroni or not if you're not a jabroni
you can put a hand up if you fancy oh if uh
i know who can be trusted not many so some people just come on and be like hey
okay okay or whatever i guess i can do this question
will acua la uh be listed on fin right after the pilot sell
yes uh is the answer to that i think there we go pretty pretty much um
immediately so i think you know what what within however long it takes
from a technical perspective i don't know but i mean i think
the aim is once once it's sold and then obviously the average
the price will obviously be going at the average of the sale so
i can talk from winx perspective i think it was up within a couple hours or so wasn't
it it didn't take long yeah yeah hands is uh hands is on hands as a freak
i imagine or just pest room anyway if it isn't up within two hours
i'll have him sitting with me in the office no problem there we go
what other things well we've got a request from our
one of our favorite people in the world what no
our funky funky we'll take a question from our boy funky
love funky all right the funk stuff what's up gang i am actually uploading
the video as we speak on my desktop this has never seen the light of day
only those who are in the link hub have the privilege of having seen my
first attempt at making a video tutorial so it's a bit long but there'll be a
whole series of stuff coming from coach kuji i've talked with daniel about
creating this character but i want to actually talk to
the team because everything you guys said was actually blown away
i've been actually trying to get in touch with you guys because our team
was working with another blockchain team that was trying to do on chain
carbon credits so i would love to talk to you
maybe meet with our team um but just super bullish on everything that you're
building and i'm absolutely thrilled about the
upcoming launch of the token and and the project and everything else
excellent well absolutely there could be some collaboration to be had as well
we're open we're all we're all all arms and ears so anything
any suggestions any anything that you guys are doing that we're not doing or
we should be doing vice versa let's let's chat for sure
hey boom funky yeah well just in a nutshell we run
infrastructure and we do this all in sock to compliant data centers on bare
metal nodes so we just as part of our pitch to investors we want to be carbon
neutral so that's the short the long and short of it but
happy to talk more and maybe set up a meeting well we're coming off set your
business for you no problem we'll make you neutral
there we go so that's how easy that's how easy
song for the man in the funny hair
kuji cast bases this even happens here you do it in a basis in a pub it doesn't
matter it just happens when i got the first bit of business
but meat falls off the bone that's it
we will we will reach out so please give me the guy's details after be great to
chat before that see who else is oh no
okay um so there's this guy who's us to i want to prove him
yeah he's he's you know he's all right yeah he's one of them don't let him up
i put if you guys i know a lot of kuji people are familiar with pilot but if
you've never seen pilot or don't understand it
um the tutorial i just posted above so you guys can watch it it's about six
minutes i tried to make it about five but i just based it on fusion's actual
medium piece i read through that and i just played around with it
live while i was recording so if you want to see a short tutorial on how to
use it uh it's pretty good i think well that's
brilliant thank you nice looking at the lovely
lovely background on that as well in that video oh it's lovely
tiggy see go on tiggy what do you want
come on you can do it you can do it don't be shy
he's exhausted from buying all that kuji you saw
he's the guy who would just request to speak and not speak is he touching
himself he just keeps breathing down the
phone yeah take it now well we'll we'll we'll
continue uh i think there's some questions in the
in the section anyway go on okay oh let's see uh
okay uh let's read what's that one uh do you like women's football
no that was that's not a question okay from a betting perspective i do
okay cedric cedric with a question i get that a qla token has been created
before the pilot sell which means we can potentially list it before the sell
even completes uh like no because i think it's all smart
contract driven so i don't think that is achievable
no no cedric stop it oh we've got teague in the background oh he's
waving okay maybe okay uh you're a speaker
oh okay how do you play say his name anyway
cash is it is he here yeah you must be here of course so
right so if it's cash from up if it's cash from
down let's see what he does i bet he's not
no he will he will he's a good boy he's a good lad
i like him no he's let me down you fucking dick it
right yeah go on so uh after the uh the launch uh is uh done
would there be a lovely celebrate celebrate uh come on no i'm tongue tied
you'd say oh that's without a time in the sauna yeah
yeah too much lubricant got me to say it yeah we have a launch party
yeah yeah you say it's mind reader absolutely absolutely
i mean look whether i mean you mentioned obviously at the beginning of some sort
of meet up on the night but whether we coincide it with that or just do our
own thing we'll see 100 there'll be a launch party
somewhere in town no doubt um and uh yeah be there without a doubt
it will be so if you didn't meet about that given that i'm doing dry jam um i'm not
just counting down the days for pilots to end as you can imagine
i know there's a bunch of the community doing a dry january so
yeah we'll we'll make up for the the lost it'll be it'll be post post
january yeah post january okay
we will be off the wagon in style okay uh Andre says i am a jabroni yes you
are who else is doing this any successful stories in the
industry currently for what we're doing yeah i think yeah i mean there's
definitely some of that you know climber
moss i mean these are the big guys have you know crossed the pond that are
doing stuff within the sort of carbon markets but i mean and yeah they've all
had massive successful raises um what they're doing as a business not
entirely sure don't particularly follow them we're in
our little lane doing our thing over here um but
i think that we're all got the the common goal of driving
and expanding the voluntary carbon market so um
you know there's there's ways and means and they're doing their thing
either sort of fractionalized carbon credits and various things from memory
and um you know it makes it very difficult because i think if you're
fractionalizing if you want to retire you can sort of have to retire
a fraction of a carbon credit it's very very fragmented and difficult so
i think our models far clearer far simpler far easier for people to
understand um they can understand their revenues they can understand where we can
make profit and um you know i'm happy doing what we're
doing and they're doing what they're doing but i mean i think all in all it's
it's good for the market as a whole because there's
there's plenty and plenty to go around that's for sure you know there's not
it's not a case of uh who's doing what and and where
we're all we've all got uh we've all got a seat at the table and we're all doing
our thing yeah it's a big pie it's a big pie it's a
very very big pie you know markets uh it's a huge pie and
in it's growing and there's only a handful of players in the pie at the
moment which is great yeah it's a good pie to be if you if
oh oh we've never ever across because teague sort of
draw the ball but you know teague yes here we go very well my other favorite
guy though if i did say didn't i ross ross is there
oh there we go all right what do you want are we winning
uh chicken chicken and waffles please
what do you want to say you got a question or just do you want to say
nice did somebody hear that one to say something but she does want to say no
hello well chicken it won't see if you get there
it's a we've heard again just now hold on
this is going on a bit too long now well we might have to close them off
get ross on unlucky what i assume was teague's door you didn't make the gravy
all right next next episode maybe
yes everyone's favorite european man i know great dancer really did stay late
on that oh good this man did stay late at the party
the good at the meetup you would have seen this guy's amazing
uh footwork so he was the prime renelda yeah yeah yeah
so go on ross well well well we have a nice chat as well with uh
with both so back then so uh so nice to hear of you again uh i just
wanted to ask about um agua about the project so in any
like future integrations like uh because uh
with farmers and stuff like that so is he any any kind of
these people willing to come on the blockchain and try to work or they still
gonna stay in a web tool if you understand what i mean
with uh so for example somebody's planting trees and try to
print uh two offsets of carbon yeah how they gonna come to to the blockchain so
how this gonna be integrated recorded and stuff like that do we have any
well i mean that that's all dealt with the you know the methodology so the
methodologies are various phases obviously
producing carbon credit so um they have to go through a full scientific
methodology um and then that has to be effectively
audited by a third-party standard um at that point in time they generally
would get lodged to a registry of some sort where
they're also open for the project developer to sell but
i mean what as we build our marketplace you know project developers don't
necessarily want to be involved with the sale of the credits
at the end of it so you know if we have already got a ready-made platform and
clients it makes far more sense to developers to
come to us at that stage and actually lodge their credits with us
to effectively sell on their behalf so in turn you're not going to get lots of
little guys come into sort of blockchain um they will technically all
be onboarded through our platform
nice i think because you know everybody has some plants
i do have plans to go and have some farmland and stuff so
i may have some contribution to that as well so
yeah that's brilliant you need in terms of obviously planting trees and
things i mean they're they're they're you need a lot of land
and a lot of space but i mean look it's all it all could be done anyone can
effectively you know generate carbon credits so
um subject to having all the right uh
status and and time and effort and cost i mean it's it's
it costs a lot of money to develop a proper project it's not cheap
hence why you know carbon credits vary so much in prices because different
different projects physically require different price
pricing for to make that project you know
yes thank you so that was quite nice thank you
no thank you because you can have the some kind of
anyway that's my stuff so nice and good trees which produce
as well not only oxygen they produce fruits as well in the long term
yeah i like fruit what's your favorite fruit black grape so yeah you do like
black grapes yeah well my project just clarifies with
walnuts is nice they become massive but with
the time and they're really nice trees you like
there's a lot of fun and big nuts here perfect
perfect sweet so have we got any more let me
i think i believe one more check i mean um
i just yeah wrap it up just you know for me to say
my little thing on this so for me you know
this is up right now guys i mean you've you've heard what this business
is you've you know you've heard what the the projected future for it can be
right now it's you know sitting at the market capital again i mean
um you're you're cool what you do that information by
yeah i know what i'm doing uh i'm just gonna read this one there's kenno uh
my bid is showing active does that mean it's already active yes it does also at
the end of the pilot sell the price of the token
and the aql will be the average bid price now it will be the price that
you bid it at yes so theoretically if someone's
bid it at let's say three cents you bid out one but the average is 1.2
if as long as long as you're as long as you're filled effectively
you know at that point in time you will already have a slight upside but i mean
it's um obviously it changes if we oversubscribe and then you know people
do get filled it's the highest highest bid is filled first effectively at
that stage that's it you're going for them going for
the lowest lower end you know you're going for that big discount but you're
also taking the most risk because if more money comes in above also
don't forget if you do if we do oversubscribe
people will have to adjust their bids accordingly to ensure that they do
although if you want watch the watch the video which has been posted in
comment absolutely there seems to be several
floating around now so they're out there and much appreciate to the guys that
have done them because uh you know they're quite clear tutorials
from what i saw earlier it's pretty good yeah
here's uh funky and who was it from cryptotube
also a lovely mud yeah lovely and obviously don't forget i'm compatible
wallets i think there's uh you know ossie kepler ossie sonar
um i can't remember the other day is no no no i use it
yeah people are going to be they're going to be on sono kepler leap yeah possibly
metal yeah maybe that's the same thing for
everything pretty much yeah get your wallet and you know um
have fun have some fun with pilot enjoy these next
couple of days because it's gonna it's gonna keep it on the socials because any
announcements will obviously be putting out well in advance also
get yourself in the eqla telegram uh if you've got more questions
any or any more thought jump in there we're here you know i will answer
anything no problem so uh any questions give us a shout
thanks i think we've uh i think that's it is there anything you want to say
yeah yeah yeah thanks everyone
no we'll uh we'll uh obviously be doing it again no doubt in the future as well
let's keep you know uh get this out of the way get it listed
and then we'll see we'll let all have a meet up in town and
have a good little launch party and uh it'd be great to sort of see everyone
and chat to everyone and uh see where we go the future is looking good
be fine yeah appreciate it for you to come in on and
do a high five oh there you go so we've just done a physical high five
because we're in person here's a virtual one yeah virtual one to you joe as well
uh and uh thank you for everyone listening and yeah you're all very handsome
yeah um we'll see you soon yeah all right
cheers well done guys nice one take care bye bye everyone bye bye bye love you