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💙Arbitrum <> Post Mint
Recorded: Aug. 21, 2023 Duration: 0:44:27Space Recording
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Yeah, we're excited to learn more about what you guys are building.
So welcome.
Yeah, I want to get started with some intros.
COB, do you want to give us a quick introduction about yourself?
Yeah, hey, how's it going?
Thank you guys so much for having me on.
Can you hear me okay, Chiro and Ana?
Yeah, good.
Okay, let's go.
Okay, let's go.
And we're going to do it, you know, we're going to be a good day, you know, we're going to be like, we're going to be a little bit more, you know, I'm going to be very, you know, I'm going to be a little bit more about the next one.
you know, Chainlink Oracles and all the different services that Chainlink enables for smart
contracts today. And so that's kind of where I come from. And by virtue of being early
to Chainlink, I've been early to, you know, a number of different smart contract advances
like DeFi and was able to, you know, engage in DeFi very early on and also, you know,
collecting NFTs and, you know, really being sort of a bleeding edge user of, you know,
the Web3 space. It's been an exciting journey. And today I'm here talking about a project
that I've helped co-found along with Phil. I think he's here as well. PostMint, basically,
we're trying to solve the, you know, questline crisis, as I like to call it, that we're seeing
today. You know, a lot of engagement farming is incentivized. A lot of, you know, real community
engagement incentives are not really there. And so, you know, we need to provide a pathway
for folks to gain exposure that isn't just, you know, buy a bag and shill the bag. You know,
there has to be a meaningful way to promote user-generated content. And that's what PostMint
is all about. So, yeah, excited to get it going.
Great. Yeah. And we also have Phil. Phil, do you want to give yourself an introduction?
Yes, sir. It was a brief. So, hi, guys. Excuse me. I'm Phil. Yeah. Co-founding here
with Janik Bull PostMint. Super exciting. I'm also in the space in 2016 when I found Bitcoin.
And then shortly after, I found a project called Steam and Steemit. Maybe some of you guys know it
still. So, it was basically the OG post to earn their own blockchain. Whenever you posted something
to their chain, basically, you got paid by token inflation. It wasn't very sustainable,
but it was very cool to see that people were making like $800 on an article they posted. It
was very much like a Reddit style. And then, yeah, like over a year ago, I met CLB at a chain link
event. And we both had a very similar idea. And here we are building PostMint. And very excited
to be here. Thanks so much.
Great. Great. Yeah. No, it's great to see some of the OGs from the space here, especially the
chain link Marines. I know you guys have been here for a long time. So, shout out to you guys
for still being in this space and building something cool like PostMint. I've done research
about you guys recently. And yeah, no, I understand that there is definitely a need to reward users that
create original content or, you know, provide some sort of incentive for a community to, you know,
go out there and help out with marketing announcements or events that are happening
within the community. So, I find that really interesting. And I'm curious to learn more about
it in terms of the back end, like the on-chain stuff. Because I know when you log into, when
you connect your wallet to PostMint, right? You go on there, connect your wallet, right? You also have
your Twitter account attached to it. And then where do people go from there? Can you maybe give us a
walkthrough of that? Sure, yeah. I'm happy to walk you through. So, the whole idea of PostMint is the
community can come in and create their own campaigns. So, there are some campaigns from
PostMint, currently two campaigns right now. One PPT, that's our Solbond PostMint point token. It's kind
of the token of our incentivized alpha. And then we just launched another campaign to promote which
project should have a PostMint ambassador program on Arbitrum. So, you can check it out. It pays
out on Arbitrum, so an ARP. So, basically what you do is you log into PostMint, you log your Twitter,
I link your Twitter, and then you see on the dashboard there are a couple of campaigns.
They are gated. So, like the PPT, as well as the Arbitrum campaign we have live right now,
they are both application-based. So, the moment you hit the apply button, we get notified,
we're going to check you. We learned our lessons. It's kind of, you know, very important to see who
can join your ambassador program because you just want to have like, you know, people who worked in
or act in good faith of the project. And basically, after we did some vetting, we whitelist you. You
can join in. Then you get full access to the campaign. You see the campaign brief, and then you
can basically start posting. There are always some tags. For example, like the PostMint hard, hard
Arbitrum is like one of the tags of the new campaign. Then you submit your tweets, and then
basically you submit them to PostMint. And once after like seven days, when the campaign is over,
the content gets scored, gets it scored, and you get your score. And depending on your performance,
you make a rank. And this campaign is a custom payout scheme, means I think that the first place
makes 125 Arbitrum, and then the next place 50. And then you can basically watch the rest of the curve on
the campaign. So it kind of flats down. But yeah, long story short, this is what you do in PostMint.
You follow the campaign brief, you get some, you know, like some requests on content we would like
to see there. You post it on Twitter, you share it with your friends, you know, why Arbitrum projects
should have a PostMint campaign. And then you get paid for that. And then this is just like, you know,
one of our campaigns, and there are like other third party campaigns, currently one from Blueberry
Foundation Live, and one from Tales coming next week.
Yeah, that's great to see. And I think an interesting point I want to make about this,
I feel like it's just like a really great platform for like new projects that are coming over to Web3,
from Web2, that aren't as exposed to the Web3 culture. Because you know, Web3 marketing is way,
completely different from Web2 marketing. Essentially, in Web3 marketing, you rely on the community
to help out with pushing out a certain message or an announcement that you have on social. So you're
more reliant on the community than using, let's say, advertisements or all those Web2 tactics that
aren't really seen as a positive way to market your project. So I feel like PostMint could be like the
place for a new project that is looking to, you know, activate their community, that are looking to
market a certain announcement from their project. It could be the perfect place for them because
they have all the resources that you guys provide. And yeah, you're relying on the community and so
forth. So that's like an interesting point I wanted to make. Thanks so much.
Yeah. Sorry, I want to add something. I think that's a great point, Shiro, because honestly,
most projects, their go to market marketing strategy is not always very fleshed out and
also existing projects that have sort of fallen off with their community. You know,
they don't really have like an integrated strategy to incentivize folks over time. And
that's something I know Phil has led the charge on a lot at PostMint around is, you know,
helping out with ambassador programs and, you know, really having PostMint help automate an
ambassador program and PostMint Labs ourselves like helping manage those campaigns in an ongoing
and like actively done fashion. Because, you know, whether it's a new project or a project that's
sort of trying to revive, you really need to have the community centered approach from the jump. And
yeah, I think projects that come to us very early, they end up, you know, putting aside incentives,
you know, parts of their token, for instance, that, you know, can just go to the to the community
over time. And we call that sort of like taking the PostMint pledge. And yeah, that's sort of an
ongoing thing we're working on with a number of different projects. So, so that, you know,
they have, you know, incentives that will be there for the future.
Yeah, for sure. Um, and I also like how there's a leaderboard. Um, and I find that really interesting
because it just makes the experience a lot more fun. So for, for an average DJ that like,
wants to get involved in these things, um, not only they're helping out their community,
but they're also having fun at the same time because there's a leaderboard and there's some
sort of like friendly game gamified way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We, we also,
Churro have these, uh, tweet cards. So you can actually see like this tweet, you know, garnered,
you know, like 10 USDC or this tweet earned like, you know, a few hundred USDC or 10R, whatever
the reward is paying. So folks can later on like show their friends, you know, Hey, this tweet
actually earned me a bunch. Like you're on Twitter, like you're not getting paid anything.
Like I'm on Twitter. I'm, I'm printing money, just supporting the projects I was already supporting.
Uh, that's sort of the idea. Yeah. And some gamification around it. Um, I mean,
it's just getting started, but the leaderboards, the whole idea is like to amplify collaboration
and competition, meaning, you know, like you as an arbitrary community or you as a changing community
or you as like any NFT project community, you compete like against each other within kind
of like the campaign, but then you also compete between different teams, between different
ecosystem who is like, it's the strongest, uh, community like in, in, in social media wise.
Right. Yeah. And I'm looking at the, uh, the Postman Arbitrum campaign right now. Um, and I see
SmartCon, wait, SmartCon. Oh yeah. SmartCon is in the audience right now, but I see him right now,
I think he's number one on the leaderboard currently for that campaign.
Yeah. So the, um, here, like the scoring is not live. So the scoring always happened
at the end of the campaign. And currently it's just like, who gets, who gets in first
or who gets widest at first, uh, it's going to be on the top, but then who is there going to be
like, you know, the winner of the campaign is determined, um, and you know, the week when we
run the scoring. Yeah. I think, uh, what you'll see in just like right now in the audience and in
a number of the Postman campaigns is, uh, folks from the link toads NFT community. Um,
it's a chain link ecosystem project and there's sort of like one of the power users communities
of Postman and you can check out their community hub and really look at all their different
campaigns. And, uh, yeah, there's sort of like the bleeding edge adopters of this technology.
And so, yeah, they, uh, if you, if you run a campaign, the link toads are right, likely going
to come in, raid the campaign and, and take a lot of the top prizes. So yeah, we, we look to
them for that support and really, uh, you know, the link toads are actually monetizing their
community through Postman. Um, and they're running their own campaigns on behalf of
their own partners. So yeah, it's a, it's a great community and sort of, you know, one of our
flagship affiliate communities. Yeah. That's really funny. Yeah. I see their community page right now.
And all I just see is a bunch of, uh, Pepe's I love it. Yeah, that is cool. Um, you know,
for sure. And, um, in terms of like communities, uh, like what types, what types of communities
do you guys seeing, you know, using Postman like NFTs, DeFi, DAOs or what are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I think it goes really across the board. Um, you know, NFTs, no brainer, DeFi makes sense,
for example, the blueberry campaign. I mean, NFT just like takes for many people a lot of time to
understand. And if you have a bunch of people explaining it in simple terms and threats and
with memes, it just helps to get the work out. So like, and like DeFi is definitely a big part of it,
but also infrastructure. I mean, look at Chainlink, look at Chainlink Marines. They really made this
project what it is today. And they're actually not a B2C, but more like a B2B infrastructure.
Um, project or company. Yeah. And I know that there are other, uh, types of protocols and
projects out there that do similar things like this, like in terms of, uh, community activations
through, uh, monetization, um, such as, uh, Galaxy, um, as well as others. So I'm wondering,
like, what makes you guys unique compared to, to Galaxy and other projects that do these similar
things for the, for the community? Yeah, that's, that's a great question. I think that the answer
lies in, in quality over quantity. So what we've seen with, you know, the initial, uh, quest line
paradigm is that, you know, it's centered around generating vanity metrics for projects. So high,
like count, high follower count, you know, you know, getting retweets on a tweet, right.
But if you look at the social graph of the participants, um, it's, you know, generally
people who are not, you know, actually buying the asset or engaging in the platform or, you know,
really using the, the application. And so, you know, what I like to also call it, it's like,
you know, a hot, high velocity, low, low value, low value, high velocity. And Postman, um, we're
trying to create, you know, a much more gated experience where generally the only folks that can
actually access the campaign, um, you know, and have the honor of promoting a project are the real
users, the folks who are holding the assets, having actually interacted with the contracts.
Um, and generally, you know, a lot of the campaigns are token gated because of that. So,
you know, the, the blueberry protocol campaign that is just wrapping up, um, that was gated to the
link to community and they had to hold seven of their NFTs in order to access that campaign.
And so, you know, if the campaign is an NFT or ERC 20 or, you know, whatever token gated,
you know, it's going to be an application based campaign. It's on, you know, the Postman, you know,
admins or the campaign creator or whoever they allow to basically manage the campaign to allow
the people in. So it's heavily gated. Um, and yeah, I think that's the biggest, that's the biggest
difference. Um, and what, what are you, what are your thoughts, Phil?
Yeah. I think also like most of the other ones are kind of quest lines. So very simple user journey
in the sense of like, we tweet, follow, uh, maybe join discord, maybe stake, and maybe,
I don't know, do a trade and that's it. So like there's basically no advancement in the, in the user.
It's like follow the steps and you're done with Postman. And also with the Postman profiles,
we want to offer like community members, like a user journey coming from a normal, you know, like
poster on Twitter who like, you know, spits out some threats and, you know, creates content about
topics they're interested in and to kind of advance content creators, which have like a big audience
or like kind of grow their audience along the journey. So I think this is, um, and then basically,
you know, like by providing them feedback on their performance, you can like check out your Postman
profile. For example, you get a chart where you see, you know, like the metrics basically on your
tweets. If they, if they go up, if you grow like in, in terms of more impressions on your tweet,
if you like grow your audience and by providing this feedback, helping you basically to become
a better content creator. Of course. Yeah. And, um, I also, I'm like really curious to learn more about
how does the backend stuff works in terms of, you know, doing on-chain activities? Because I know you
guys mentioned just now that, um, you, people are able to create campaigns, um, based off of
on-chain activities, like, you know, making a swap or doing some sort of trade on a DeFi protocol. So
how does that work, um, in the backend? Yeah, sure. Um, I think it's like two parts. So what are you
referring to? Like, you know, if people can join a campaign, um, that's all kind of like me reading
from the, the backend reading from this, from the smart contracts, you know, do you hold like a
certain combination of tokens? Do you have like some NFTs on, on mainnet? Do you have some,
I don't know, token stake in another network? So that's kind of like the, the gating mechanisms
that can be token gated, um, or kind of like smart contracts gated. Um, and then the rest of the
backend is basically depending, depends on the product. So like the, the whole post to earn
product, which we like released, I think like last this year, May, um, or even before with our first
campaign, like in during East Denver in February. Um, so the scoring, since it's tied to Twitter,
the scoring, um, especially having just on our proprietary, like backend, we, I mean, Twitter
is the, or like X today is the single source of truth feeding into our backend. And we basically
read out the metrics or like first we analyze the metrics. We get back, we kind of trend on our model
on different tweets from the past, which are kind of like labeled to flag out kind of product content
and write it down or to like, you know, inform the campaign creator that there is some suspicious
activity. And then the campaign creator, I guess he gets a score. And then, so that this is kind of like
the postman, like traditional back and part, like scoring from Twitter, like, uh, like cleaning the
data and providing it to the campaign creator. And now we go on chain where the campaign creator
kind of reviews the scores to get some postman. And if they find it deployed on chain, um, each
campaign, basically each community has its own, um, campaign smart contract, which holds the funds.
And then, um, it basically the campaign creator deploys the distribution of the funds on chain and then the
community member or like the, the ambassador's participants can come and claim from the smart
contract. And the whole thing is of course, non-custodial. So like postman never has access
to your funds. You know, if people lock in marketing budgets in the funds, they are the only one who can,
you know, access the funds and distributing to their, to the participants.
Yeah. And I, I'd also say that, um, the way that the backend is devised, like right now,
it's, it owes like it, or it gives a bit more control to the campaign creator, but, um, over
time, you know, what we, what we're committed to is, you know, greater decentralization. And, um,
recently in the chain link hackathon, we won a prize for using chain link functions
to automate part of the backend of our, uh, to come referral, uh, natively integrated referral
programs that are, you know, a refer to earn sort of, uh, system where we have the same
gamification as the post to earn campaigns. Um, but yes, we're committed to using various different
off chain service providers like chain link, um, to sort of decentralize our backend over time.
And, you know, whether it's, you know, our root hash deployment or our scoring and beyond.
Absolutely. No, yeah. I think, um, wherever it makes sense most, like with the, with the
ref link, we call it like our chain link hackathon project, which was like, as Jane said, like one
of the winners, um, with the ref link, it makes absolutely sense because what we check is like
on-chain activities and like, you know, paying our people and like scoring people for on-chain activity,
uh, should be definitely done, you know, in a, in a decentralized manner as well, just for, for
the Twitter, um, at the moment, you know, it makes the most sense, you know, Twitter is like a
centralized entity. They have a centralized API and we consume the centralized API. So it's kind
of like, um, shaking hands there. Um, however, yeah, I agree a hundred percent, uh, on the roadmap
there's decentralization. Um, also there's like a new product or a new product line, let's say,
display launching very, very soon. Um, which has like, you know, already a partly decentralized
backend and it has like kind of the, the right infrastructure in place to completely decentralize.
Yeah, that's great. Yeah. I love the direction you guys are heading towards, um, in terms of
the decentralization aspect. Um, and this brings up a question. Um, are you guys thinking about
launching your own orbit chain?
Um, I, I'm not sure about launching our own orbit chain. Um, but we're actually super committed to
supporting other orbit chains that are launching. And, uh, one of those, you know, that maybe this
is a bit of alpha there's, uh, you know, we're in discussions with Xi, I guess. Um, I mean, you
know, and others, I mean, we would love to, uh, to explore the idea of our own orbit chain, but I
think at this time, our commitment is to, you know, supporting a number of different, you know,
arbitrum related orbit chains and other EVM chains in general. So, um, yeah, I mean, any,
any of them that are coming out, we'd love to deploy there. We're already live on arbitrum
since East Denver. Um, so yeah, we'd love to be wherever you're at.
Absolutely. So yeah, if you have an obvious chain, we should be, um, you know, using Postman or like,
and like feel free to join a campaign, tag them and earn some money for, you know, like talking about it.
Yeah, it's cool. It's definitely like really cool to see you guys supporting orbit chains as well.
Um, because they, they definitely do bring tons of quality features for, for developers that,
that want to have their own chains, such as, you know, choosing their own custom architecture,
like either arbitrum, optimistic rollups, any trust, um, as well as security, um, like security
is, um, um, they benefit from Ethereum because, um, it falls back onto arbitrum one and arbitrum one
and Nova are built on top of Ethereum security. So, um, that's like one big benefit, um, as well as
decentralization network fees, governance permissions, um, as well as stylus too, which is, um, an upgrade that,
uh, uh, will be coming or should be coming, you know, depending on the vote from the doubt.
But pretty much the, the, the short summary of this is that, um, stylus will enable, uh, developers
on Arbitrum one, Nova, as well as Arbitrum orbit to deploy programs written and languages such as
Rust, C, C plus plus. Um, so that's like a huge thing coming over to, to, to the whole entire
Arbitrum ecosystem. Um, so that's like going to be huge for us, uh, because, you know, not only you could
use, um, you know, Solidity, which is everyone's favorite programming language, um, to build within
the Ethereum ecosystem, but now we'll have other programming languages that will, you know, run
alongside it, such as Rust, C, C plus plus, and, and more. So, um, that's something exciting coming to
the Arbitrum ecosystem.
So yeah, that sounds, that sounds very exciting. Um, to be honest, I think we, we haven't really
looked into it, but it's definitely something you're going to consider going forward. I mean,
the, the, the backlog is packed. There are a bunch of features coming out. Um, but yeah,
definitely gonna have a look.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's amazing how, like, how much like the off-chain labs team are building in the
back end. Um, he has a lot of things in the, in the pipeline, like stylus. Um, then you have
orbit chains coming out soon. So, um, you know, during this bear market, uh, yeah, the, the Arbitrum
ecosystem is building, which is, which is amazing to see. Um, and you know, about you guys, you know,
post mint, um, I'm curious to see like, what, what is next for you guys? Like, what are some additional
features, um, do you see coming?
Yeah. I think that, um, something that's going to be released very soon is, uh, ref to earn.
So refer to earn. Um, I don't want to announce too much, but it's probably going to be this week.
Um, that like a first kind of post mint enabled product is launching. Um, yeah. Um,
Janik Bull, you have some more alpha?
Yeah. I mean, not, not too much, but we, what we started to see is, you know, more, um,
projects that are building, you know, with post mint natively integrated, like I was talking about
previously, the pledge program where, you know, a product or a project might, you know, sequester
part of their tokens for, you know, um, affiliate, you know, purposes. Right. Uh, yeah. We're just
excited to see folks building with us in mind and sort of like in post mint integrated natively, um,
from the point of inception. That's something we're really excited about because it's also
a very strong commitment to community. Um, and you know, it's like a programmatic commitment.
So I think that's something that we're super excited about. And I think our users are going
to be really excited about. So, I mean, if you think about it and sort of more web two terms,
post mint is like a affiliate network and, you know, as the network grows, you know,
the following of the affiliate network grows. And so we're super excited. We're,
you know, I think we're, we're near or across over a million followers of the accounts in our
affiliate network that have logged into post mint. And so I think, you know, seeing that number
increase, you know, month over month is just one of the most exciting things to watch. And
I, especially because post mint, most of the accounts are not large, um, influencer accounts
that have joined so far. So even though we don't have, you know, the, the really large influencers
who, who haven't, you know, adopted yet, you know, a few have here and there, um, you know,
we've able to been generating like very solid numbers. And honestly, that's cheers to you, Phil,
and, and the, uh, and the engineering team for building such a solid product that people can
actually use. And, you know, also the community as well for, for, you know, keeping us informed
of new bugs and, you know, things that should be fixed that we can, you know, handle and, you know,
get out the door and, you know, change the product, make it more usable. It's been,
it's been an awesome journey. Absolutely. Yeah. Thanks to you for your great,
like marketing efforts, business development, bringing new campaigns on. I mean, also like,
you know, training, we're very, very grateful for having the training community and the link
totes on there. So like you guys are ready to make postman this great content, uh, great threats.
I'm very happy. Like, you know, whenever I log into postman and look through the content,
when I create some content for the blueberry campaign, for example, you don't need to, I mean,
yeah, for sure. I went also on the website and checked stuff, but like, it gives you a
headstart on, you know, what do you want to write? It gives you ideas, gives you basically
all the information you need already. So very grateful for the community and yeah.
Yeah. This is like a testament to, to how important it is to have community because,
um, community comes a long way here in web three. Um, and, um, I'm really happy for you guys,
um, to have support from the link Marines. So, um, shout out, shout out to the link maroons out there
that are, you know, in this tour space. Shout out to you guys for supporting, uh, postman. Um,
and yeah, no, I'm really excited about, um, the upcoming campaigns you guys have in mind. Um,
especially for those that are using postman, I'm, I'm, I'm hyped to see that. Um, especially
XI who are building on Arbitrum orbit. So, um, I'm definitely hyped for that. So, uh, yeah,
it's a great collaboration. Yeah. I think one thing to highlight here, Shiro is that,
you know, postman being deployed on Arbitrum being used to grow Arbitrum projects is like what,
what matters. Like we're leveraging the technology to grow the technology, um, you know, bring more
eyes to XI or, um, next week we have like failies, um, and with their overtime markets,
which, you know, that they're, uh, they're an Arbitrum partner that came over from optimism,
you know, obviously going multi-chain, but you know, where, where do they come? They come to,
to Arbitrum and I'm sure they're doing massive volume here. And, uh, and yeah, I mean, they're,
they're, they're using an Arbitrum based postman campaign to grow their sports betting product on
overtime markets. And, you know, um, just, just a bunch of folks and even folks on mainnet,
you know, they're using the Arbitrum based postman to grow their mainnet projects as well.
So it's, you know, it's where the, the payments can be done cheaply. Somebody can come onto postman,
earn enough to, you know, afford a big Mac and actually like off ramp that because, you know,
it's not that expensive to offer it from Arbitrum to, to their bank account, honestly. So that,
that's what matters. Making this technology accessible as a, is so important. Uh, so, so important.
Um, yeah, I think, um, you just touched on a point here, which I wanted to mention, um,
regarding community and community efforts to, to create content and post. So I think this is
something because he just mentioned like, you know, paying a big Mac, but it's important. I mean,
if people spend like an hour or like a half an hour on a threat, um, putting time in, then they should
also get something back from the project. You would basically get like, like paid for the, for the time
they spent so they can afford to spend more time and to create even better and more content around the
project, which then in return, you know, like drives more awareness and engagement towards
the project and grows the project. So, um, let's hear the whole, the whole thesis.
Yeah. I mean, I, I say the big Mac thing, uh, it's a joke, but there, there are like larger,
uh, reward campaigns coming. And I mean, Phil, what the largest or the largest reward that we've
given away for a post, uh, a post that garnered a hundred thousand views is like at least six or
$700 for one post that is the highest, uh, you know, earned amount. So I think, you know,
we have a couple of different large campaigns coming, uh, at the end of this month, early next
month, the ticket size is large enough to, to potentially, you know, see a new highest earning
post. I mean, that's, I think that's coming. Absolutely. To go to an iPhone, Christmas is coming.
Yeah. A one-on-one Arby Burger. Yeah. Arby Burger. Maybe we might be giving away a Remilio as well
soon. Um, shout out to, shout out to the Remilios. Um, we're thinking about doing a
Remilio giveaway campaign. So I think, uh, just keep your eyes out for that. Um, yeah, it's, it's on,
it's on the horizon. Yeah. And, uh, no, I, I, I shared this one tweet that you guys posted,
um, on this Twitter space where you guys talk about all the community services you provide,
um, in terms of support, like, you guys offer audit, community audits, recruiting, you guys
highlight all these features or, um, unique, um, yeah, features about, like, what you guys,
how you guys can help a community or project, um, that is looking to, um, market an event,
or announcement. So I find that really cool. Like, I know you guys offer a community training,
like offering resources on, um, marketing strategies, um, or, you know, community campaign
management, campaign designs. So that, that's something you want to see in a, uh, project like
you guys. So, uh, that's really cool to see.
Thanks so much. Yeah. I mean, we, we kind of saw the need for it, to be honest. Um,
for me, when we first started building Postman, we thought it would be like kind of a sales service,
uh, you know, like we just provide the infrastructure and then projects, uh, who,
who has like marketers and the team would come on and like, I just use the technology to automate
and kind of like coordinate the community members to, to create great content. But then in the end,
we saw it actually takes, it takes time to, you know, manager campaigns still. Um, and we can reduce
like the time it takes by a offering services and offering advice and step-by-step automating the
process of, you know, running your ambassador program. And by this, you know, ensuring also high
quality and actually, you know, ensuring that you get the, the community members and also the content
you deserve for your project. Yeah. I like that. Um, and I know that we have a few minutes left,
so I'm wondering, like, do you guys have a discord or telegram where people can go in and ask questions?
Yes. Um, we have a discord, uh, it should be linked, but I can happy to provide a link as well. Uh,
we had a telegram, but we actually, I think we just, just on discord for questions. Um, otherwise
DMS are always open. We have ideas. Um, we have a Kenny is linked to our, um, to our app itself. So
you have feedback, you can just like, you know, drop something in there or like, just come on discord,
create a ticket, take a talk with us. Um, yes. Cool. Cool. Yeah. So if, uh, if you guys have any
questions, uh, feel free to jump into a discord, uh, they're more, they're more than welcome to
help you guys. If any questions you may have, um, and yeah, I just wanted to thank you both,
uh, chain link bowl and Phil for, for coming on and talking with the community about postman. I mean,
what you guys are building is something really cool. Um, and I'm really excited to see, uh, more,
more products on Arbitrum, um, use postman for their campaigns and ambassador programs.
So, um, I'm really excited to see that. Thanks Jero. Yeah. Uh, last but not least,
again, the reminder, like join our campaign, uh, talk about which project should have like
an, a postman campaign and yeah, let's, let's grow Arbitrum. Let's grow the whole space.
And thanks for being here. Thanks for having us.
Cheers. Thank you so much, man. Um, yeah, of course.
You guys have a good one. All right, guys. Cheers.
See you guys. Bye. Bye.
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