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Are creator coins peaking?
Recorded: Sept. 15, 2025 Duration: 2:50:22Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the evolving landscape of creator coins, highlighting recent trends and growth potential. The conversation also touched on strategic partnerships, upcoming token launches, and the importance of liquidity in driving market dynamics.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Yo
Just uh
Throw it up
Just uh
I mean
Cause it's dead
Yeah
Yeah they are
They are completely dead right now.
And the trenches are motherfucking dry.
Not too dry, though.
I know I've had a
quite a negative opinion
on creator coins over the last
week or so, and still do still feel the same
way about creator coins I think they're not good at all for the space I think
they create a negative aura but I have made quite a bit of money off Bagwork and Streamer coin so I cannot complain but in general I do
think these creator coins are not very good. Bagwork to me though has been a
coin where I felt like they have sort of done much back when i watched
bagwork stream they actually feel it feels like a twitch stream um you know what i mean by that is
obviously they're doing stuff for you know price go up but's done in a way where I feel like it's, uh,
it's being done, it's being done in such a way where viewers can enjoy it, um, uh,
where it doesn't feel forced, you know what I mean, it doesn't feel forced, like,
I've been watching them for the last few days, and, you know, everything that they're doing is just,
it kind of just reminds me of, like, um, you know, watching Speed, or watching Kaisen Air,
or watching Neon, or Aiden Ross go around, and, or even, like, Jack Do Jack Dovey like I don't like Jack Dovey but
like he makes content right and I just feel like uh yeah I feel like Bagworks is the only one to
really do it like and the price is sort of reflecting it um obviously there's been a few other coins, which is the kindness coin. The kindness coin is a pretty simple concept.
It's just taking the fees and donating them to streamers.
Um, that along with the streamer coin, um, it's pretty much the same.
They've pretty much both got the same concept.
Um, for anyone that doesn't know, the streamer coin has been on Kitesonet's shirt for the last, like, week.
Which is pretty funny if you go to a Kaisenet stream and he's wearing the
donation t-shirt you'll see the streamer coin as in big bold letters so that's
been pretty funny to watch and even Kaisenet addressed it on one of his
streams where he was scrolling Twitter and someone made a post saying
that basically
sorry I was looking at something
someone made a post on Twitter that
Tyson had fallen for
promoting a meme coin
and he only realised then that he had been promoting a meme coin this whole time,
so, yeah, he didn't really take, like,
it's not like he, like, said, oh, fuck that, I'm taking off my shirt,
and he hadn't taken off his shirt, so,
but he did seem, like, a little bit annoyed about it,
seem like a little bit annoyed about it but i thought it was pretty funny that he even acknowledged it
but I thought it was pretty funny that he even acknowledged it,
um but they've done he's done i show speed streams kai sanette streams and a few others
um yeah i thought that was interesting to see um kindness one is a little bit more uh
like uh wide range in terms of their streamers like they'll go to streamers with like two viewers and
gift like five thousand dollars um which i thought is a much better concept than just giving it to
kaisenet like kaisenet's a you know a multi-millionaire i'm pretty sure it doesn't need
200 subs um i would prefer if it went to streamers that, you know, have five or ten viewers or 15 viewers,
and they've probably been stuck at 15 viewers for years,
and, you know, they might not get many subs,
and, you know, imagine going into a channel like that
and gifting $5,000.
It's just, yeah, probably changed their life for a little bit.
Yeah.
I'm impressed on how much better streamer coins have gotten over the last few days and like i said i still feel like
there's a negative war around streamer coins but the last like two or three days is sort of like yeah taking me back a little bit and then realize like okay maybe there is some slight potential
here um you know and the examples are you know as shown you know with the back work streamer coin kindness coin They're cool concepts much better than
What 99.9% of the current content coin
Spaces like right now
And I that's why my opinion is still very negative
It's because you know I
Could think of three coins that are actually doing something interesting enough for me to, like, want to watch it.
And, or want to even, like, buy it.
Like, I'm not buying the content creator's coin.
Like, I wouldn't buy Gainsey's coin.
Like, he just, he just speaks on a space,
he actually does nothing, he just speaks on a space, and he, that's what he does, he just
has a webcam on and just speaks, like, I just don't, it's not interesting, and he doesn't
speak about anything interesting, I remember tuning in to one of his streams, and it was just boring. He talks about nothing, so...
And I feel like...
I feel like it's the new grift,
and I feel like a lot of these old OG, like...
Not like scammers.
I'm not going to call them scammers,
but people that always try to take advantage of something
when it comes into the limelight.
You know,fts comes around
they make an nft collection trading channels come around they make a trading channel you know and now
streamer coins are coming around and you're getting these og you know style influencers
coming around trying to make a coin and all they provide is them on a webcam talking about crypto and you know
the price reflects it right if they've got a couple hundred k followers of course the price
is going to be slightly higher than some people's some other people's with lower follow account
and that's as expected but you're starting to really see where the big money comes in is where
you're watching things like bag work and kindness coin and um streamer coin
and they're not even doing it for the love of like i just feel like they're not even doing it
for the people they're just
doing it because they want to stream it like and i don't know it just feels different it really
feels like a kick stream or a twitch stream when i watch something like bag work and i hadn't really
seen that yet and that's why i'm like super impressed by something like bag work. I call bag work around 1.4 mil.
Just sort of bag holding it right now.
Working for my motherfucking bags.
No, it's an interesting one.
I do really feel like we're in a bit of an interesting space right now.
Um, and that's where it comes to my talk sort of about meme coins, you know?
I think there's a separation between meme coins and streamer coins.
And I think, um, streamer coins has sort of taken over What meme coins are right now
I'm not really seeing
Many meme coins popping off
Not like they used to
I mean about
Two or three months ago from now
You know
People were laughing at create coins
Including myself And three months ago from now, you know, people were laughing at createcoins, including myself.
And now it almost feels like people are laughing at memecoins and saying, what's the point
of dropping a memecoin if someone could just drop a createcoin, right?
So, yeah, it's interesting.
I'm, once again, I still have this sort of dislike about beta coins for the most part of it.
Because most of them are just grifts.
But there's been a few that have really caught my eye recently.
And I thought I'd open up a space and just give my thoughts on it.
my thoughts on it I do feel like back work there's obviously gonna be more
like back work and it's hard to tell at the start like if these ones are gonna
pop off because I feel like unless you're in the stream every day watching what they do and
you know who they're connecting with and what they're actually doing in the stream you know
are they just talking on a webcam are they going out and actually doing content you know are they
gambling online or are they going to a casino you know, are they doing stupid shit going for a drive-thru?
Or are they, you know, trying to snipe famous people or streamers?
To me, that's where, like, you know, it really goes to see, like, how far a coin can really go is when you're watching stuff like that.
So it's interesting.
There's actually a kid,
his name's called Braz.
So Braz,
so not yesterday,
the night before,
a kid called Braz, he's a streamer, or started streaming, and he was doing some sort of like fireworks done.
So what happened to him is he inhaled a lot of carbon monoxide from the fireworks.
And from a friend today, well, he actually posted a tweet about 15, 16 hours ago saying that the doctor said he had carbon monoxide poisoning.
And it didn't look good. He posted a picture of him in the hospital
and then about 10 hours later his friend posted um saying that he had passed away
and yeah that was like super interesting so you know this is also another thing that I don't like about CreateCoins.
It's when it happened again through the last cycle.
There was another kid that nearly killed himself.
This time, someone has actually died from it. But last time, some guy had like electrical burns all over his body.
Like third degree electrical.
He had like, he had gone through everything done a lot of things and basically nearly killed himself multiple times
just for a coin and yeah unfortunately i watched someone uh who was like pretty big in this space um actually kill himself through trying to do stunts on his
create coin and i think he was only like 19 20 maybe 21 at max so um yeah sad fucked up
that's why i don't like credit coins as well
it's like motherfuckers be acting up
and killing themselves
to uh
to make money
crazy
crazy fucking shit
don't be doing stupid shit with your coins
fucking wild people killing themselves to do the uh Crazy fucking shit. Don't be doing stupid shit with your coins.
Fucking wild.
People killing themselves to do the...
Oh, no.
Someone just popped.
Let me read this comment here.
Someone just made a comment I didn't realise.
What do you think of Bong and World Liberty Fire?
Oh, you're talking about the collaboration that them guys had.
I feel like it's come at a really bad time for them.
I don't know.
I just feel like it's coming at a really bad time for them.
I feel like Bonk has died a lot.
Like Bonk Coins.
I checked about two days ago and the graduations for that day uh within 24 hours the 24 hour um graduation was four coins that had graduated within that 24 hours and you
know that's quite terrible right so um and i think weekly was about, like, 13, 14 or something,
if I can remember correctly.
So, it's not looking good.
It really isn't looking good for Bonk.
So, for me personally, do I think it's going to be anything good?
Not really.
I mean, the World Liberty Fight token anyway didn't perform good at all either,
so I feel like a collab between them two is sort of like a, it sounds bullish of course,
it's World Liberty Phi, World Liberty Phi, sorry, and not'll fly and um yeah i don't know i just uh don't think it's
good i don't think i'll do anything for bonk coins i think maybe you'll be able to make some
money off it but um i haven't gotten to the details on how it works in terms of farming the
bonk tokens for the court i don't know
i don't understand works i definitely need to need to read read into it but for me personally
it's not good i i think it's quite boring collab um i think they've done it at a time where
bonk is dead um i think they're doing it at a time where Pump Fund is clearly in a position of, you know, dominant power right now.
Especially with their streaming platform going on.
So, even if there was money involved for holders or people that were farming tokens it wouldn't but sorry it wouldn't matter
because uh pump fund is in full force right so uh yeah i don't think it actually matters
so yeah my opinion is that it it couldn't come out of a worse time for bonk so
it couldn't come out of a worse time for bonk so it's almost feels like an attempt of bonk to try
and get people to trade bonk coins um or launch bonk coins or launch usd one pairs uh so yeah i
think uh yeah i'll have to look at the 24 hour graduations Since this collaboration
I'll look tomorrow at the 24 hour
Yeah I'll look tomorrow at 24 hour graduations
All pairs
USD 1 pairs
Graduations
And see what that happens
But I doubt it'll be it'll probably be a spike
a little higher but i i can't imagine it being too much what's good anymore you don't think it's
good um because i know it's supposed to incentivize the the creator and the investor
with that world liberty fight you don't think that's good yeah like i said i feel like
they've come at a really bad time it's like it's like pump fun are in their prime right now
uh with the streaming platform and everyone's launching on there because they're trying to make fees it's like it i'm trying to try and get trying to think
of an example it's not even like they're trying to of course they're trying to compete right but
it you can't compete when someone's in their prime you know what i mean pump token has gone
back to its all-time high after being 90% down.
Now it's smashed a massive all-time high.
Everyone that is the content creator on crypto Twitter is launching a coin on PumpFun and earning hundreds of thousands of dollars.
It's like, okay, what now?
Should people be incentivized to launch a new token it's like
how how are they going to get all of these creators or all of these people that are token makers
to go and move over to there if people have already launched on pump fund you know what i mean it it
actually doesn't really make sense uh i feel like they've tried to um
try and catch this try and try and catch onto the train but they've actually missed it because
um everyone's already launched their tokens uh and that goes for anyone that i really feel like
pump pump uh pump did something really special even though there was a lot of other platforms
out there that um you know bags for example you know people could launch coins with bags and claim
fees and people were liking it for a while but what happened was is pump fun did something
just so unique at such a unique time and I just think it just changed the market instantly
and obviously streaming came along with that and it just boom it was just like I don't even know
how to explain it's kind of like the big bang theory like two rocks at the two rocks at a very unique time, at a very unique specific angle, the two rocks, boom,
and it just collided and just created this, just fucking bomb of fucking power, and all of a sudden
you just saw Pump Fun dominate, I mean, for weeks people were, you know, pissing on Pump Fund saying, man, Pump Fund,
fucking Jews, fuck these Jews, taking all my fucking money, and then I buy that fucking
Jew-ass coin, and now it's all at zero, and then two weeks go by, and everyone's sucking
the dick of Pump Fund, and calling Elon aelin a god and yeah that's crazy
it's crazy how the narrative changes so quickly so um to your question anymore i think um
bunk can do something like this but it's not going to change the narrative of what's going on currently.
And what's going on currently now is a full-blown pump-fun explosion.
All over our timelines, all over everything.
graduations for any other coin
any other launchpad
I think below 5
when I checked last week
coin graduations
every launchpad had below 5
where
Humpfun
were on over
20 for 24
hour
it just goes to show
that
there's nothing really that can be done
this World Liberty Fi
and Bond collab can maybe
spike it up for like a day or so
but like I said before
content creators are not gonna
start making new coins on new platforms to get more fees right if there's something already in
place like pump fun um creator fees it kind of makes sense to say that um what's good uh
um what's good uh it's good morpheus yeah so pump fun looks pretty pretty good right now they have
a golden opportunity to take over that uh specific niche market of content creator streams you know
maybe develop some sort of network uh bigger than than crypto and they'll psyop launches through like wait do
i know you know yeah yeah yeah this is the moon oh okay i was gonna say i was like yeah i recognize
your voice what's good man i'm chilling bro i'm just trying to get this account on a couple of
spaces so people know because one of my spaces got like a mega body the other day fucking blow me off the fucking web yeah so it's not chill vibes and uh so i just made this one but
uh basically bro pumps in a unique position they can definitely take over build a network you know
potentially become like uh more of a like a entertainment business right and then uh become
like a liquidity provider for tokens like like as a secondary like something like zora right and
they're gonna have like so much more capital come through through like being able to like psyop big
retail investors that way rather than you know getting them to buy into like a a creator token
now creator tokens are going to run because of
this i think like following stable coin liquidity is like a good play so i think there's hope for
you know world liberty fi because they do have tons of support in that in that arena like but
i mean it's not to say like like whenever the real like crypto boom happens bro like there's
going to be a lot of people eating from a lot of directions.
I think both world Liberty finance and pump fun are like definitely in good
spots.
I think world Liberty finance is going to make money like through primarily
like being that liquidity provider for like other,
being that liquidity provider for like other other uh like secondary projects like if you
other like secondary projects.
look into the tokenomics and like the vesting uh schedules from like all the pre-sale holders like
it's it's like pretty obvious that they're gonna be doing a whole lot of like just
like derivative projects through that like trying to just develop the network of world liberty fi
innovative projects through that like trying to just develop the network of world liberty fi
yeah we were just talking about the bonk well i was just talking about the
bank the bonk and world liberty fire collaboration have you seen that
he's been freaking balls deep in this like shit like i'm working on trying to
get some support from pump fun uh they've expressed like some interest
uh into like what we got going on uh this like live stream deal but uh so i've really been just
freaking knees deep into writing proposals and like that but um boy what's going on what do i
need to know so world liberty Liberty Fly and Bonk have collaborated
to basically bring a lot of liquidity to Bonk coins
with USD1 pairs.
And yes, interesting.
So I think it works on, I don't understand it too much,
but I think Bonk Coins can now be launched as a USD1 pair.
And it basically rewards the holders and the investors and the creators.
So, yeah.
But I did say,
I didn't think it was very interesting because it kind of makes no point.
Like pump are in such a position right now where it's like any platform trying
to like say, Oh, we're going to increase our fees.
So now you can earn more as a content creator who launches a coin.
It's like pretty stupid. It's like trying to fucking,
it's like trying to, it's, I don't even know. it's like trying to fucking it's like trying to it's i don't even know it's like trying to i don't know not i really don't know it's like trying to be it's like trying
to recreate fucking five guys again but it ends up being a big mac you know what i mean like
no one's ever gonna compete with five guys you know what i mean yeah beef tallow bro beef
tallow is different uh but uh no for real though i did see i actually did see the soul port tom
i just saw like the one the one liner though that was like giving rewards to to um
to the traders right and like like yeah sure that's i feel like he was probably like listening
to spaces last week and heard like that was everybody's take they're like you gotta find a
way to reward the viewers you gotta find a way to reward the viewers i was kind of it's like trying
to make a dollar out of 15 cents yeah that's the one that's the one the um it just can't happen
Yeah, that's the one.
That's the one.
It just can't happen.
It just can't happen.
Yeah.
I feel like Bonk are trying to, like, yeah.
Obviously, before Nito spoke, Moon, I agree with your point.
I feel like so poor Tom came into a space where we listened to a bunch of people and was like,
well, we need to implement this now before shit goes down.
100%. Yeah, it was just like a rush, bro.
They're just trying to be the first one to do it before somebody goes on mainnet
and just starts deploying smart contracts and like creates their own fucking uh sort of
deal i mean isn't time.fun kind of the same thing though that's like ansem's thing right
pretty sure like they go yeah time.fun is basically basically i can i can pay you
uh 50 for financial advice or advice on anything really.
Or I can pay you $100 to get on a phone call with you.
What would I prefer?
Would I want to pay $50 to text you?
Okay, okay, okay.
That's what Time.Fun is, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's a little different.
It's more like a networking tool.
So there is that service, but there's also a shit coin link to you as well
so he is too time.fun is both it's like there is a service of calls or texting and when you do when
you set up that contract thing then there's also a meme coin attached to you as well so it's both
sorry i should have established that but uh yeah, TimeDotFun is interesting.
I think that's more high level.
I don't think DGENs really understand it in a way where price goes up
because Anatoly and Raj both have coins on there
and they're both below 5 million market cap
and they're the founders of solana so you
know what i mean like clearly something is not working on there if the founders of solana
both have coins under 5 million market cap you know what i mean if they were to launch coins
on pump.fun and started live streaming we know for a fact that roger's coin would be over 50 mil maybe even over 100 mil so you know
it's yeah time.fun is more exclusive to knowledgeable um uh people I guess it's more like
yeah I'd say that's more like I'm really like i don't really understand it i don't really understand talking about phone but it's well it sounds to me like uh it sounds to me like that like like
patrick david has an app called manect and uh they pay it's like you can literally get on there you
can say you pay like a thousand bucks for a patrick bet david message it's like 5k for a phone call
some ridiculous yeah but there's levels to it you know
like there's like anybody can go on there and create an account and they can charge whatever
they want Patrick Matt David just charged that because he's fucking pbd you know and he's like
that's like he's like I don't have to fucking do this shit basically that's what he is like the
point in charging those prices but like uh Nick Sosn nick like all his like little dudes that like
are on his podcast like that's the way that he started making them money because he has like
them obviously getting pushed into all those algorithms you know so it was good good little
like like most of the stuff bit like patrick bet davis does like multi-level marketing you know
a bit like patrick bet davis does like multi-level marketing you know like it's all like a commission
like referral base like stuff like that like it's like his sales like he's in an insurance game too
hire a fuckload of agents online right now yeah no yeah that's basically what it is yeah you
basically just pay for people's time um i was gonna to say it's almost like Cameo as well, you know?
But Cameo is more like you pay people to tell someone.
You pay people to, like, talk to you or say something, you know what I mean?
You, like, I'll pay fucking Dwayne The Rock Johnson to fucking say hello to my Uncle Steve on his 50th birthday.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's basically what that is, so.
Yeah, I don't know. It's an interesting concept for sure. Time to have fun. steve on his 50th birthday you know what i mean like that's basically what that is so um
yeah i don't know it's an interesting concept for sure um time.fun uh definitely more an exclusivity sort of knowledgeable not for the dgens i don't think i've ever seen a dgen use time.fun
um but yeah yeah the whole goal of this this space was just to talk about like meme coins are dead and creative coins are booming.
And it's kind of a weird time, you know, to be in this sort of space.
It's almost like you have to watch, like I'm having to watch bag work to know when the price will go up.
work to know when the price will go up you know what i mean it's like i've never been in a position
You know what I mean?
where i have to watch live streams to know if a coin is going to go up or not you know what i mean
that's the thing right because what you oh he just got kicked out of space how did you what
even happened then he got kicked out of space but uh yeah i still do think there is a negative aura around
creator coins right for 99 99.9 percent of creator coins are dog shit they're filled with people that
are so-called content creators but all they do is uh spend 99 of their time on a webcam talking about dog shit.
And there is 0.00001% of content creator coins,
like Bagwork, like Kindcoin, and like StreamerCoin,
that actually understand what Twitch culture is
or what Kit culture is.
And to me, the last few days,
I've actually not retracted my comment on i think
everything about streamer coins is bad but it's made me realize that some people know what the
fuck is going on and they know maybe they've had an experience of streaming on twitch or streaming
on kick and actually know how to get that attention. When I watched a Backwork stream for the first time, it kind of actually, I thought I was
watching a Kik stream.
Like, I genuinely thought I was watching a Kik stream, like a neon stream.
Like, and it kind of put me in my seat and I was like, wow, okay, that's cool.
Like, okay, like like now i feel involved you know when i watch
someone else's stream uh you know the 99.9999 of other streamers i don't actually feel like i'm in
a stream i feel like i'm being forced to like fucking work for my bags like i'm like constantly
like shilling bullshit it feels yeah kind of horrible so yeah uh i'll quickly go
to morpheus then i'll come to your cat it's good it's good morpheus are you saying something then
you cut off oh yeah um yeah i was going in and out on the wi-fi probably yeah yeah it's
moon okay but um so yeah i mean what would you usually anticipate like whenever you're trading
something like a meme coin like telegram updates fucking post maybe uh i mean these days like yes
spaces right stuff like that so 100 like now like if the like that's how you just crack the code
that's how you freaking drive the viewers up to the pump stream is just release the
fucking alpha on the pump stream and nowhere else, bro.
Like make the clippers clip the alpha for you and fucking have the Andrew Tate method
fucking rolling where you have like a clip fly reel bucket.
You don't even need an account, you know, type shit.
That shit is more dangerous than a massive account.
Pushing anything is a thousand fucking 100 followers followers account just rolling clips every five minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, the whole Clipper thing is getting crazy as well.
What was I going to say?
When, um, when, fuck, when Bradley Martin slapped the, uh, the, the dev of Bagwork,
um, I watched that, right, and, like, that made me realise, like, these guys, like, actually
know what they're doing, like, that is, like, content to me.
Like, obviously getting slapped, you know.
Like, everyone would be like, oh, that's stupid.
Like, you want to see someone get slapped?
Yeah, but that's Twitch culture.
That's, like, kid culture.
It's like modern day streaming.
It's like doing stupid shit to, like, grab the attention of people, right?
And people like me like that, you know what I mean?
Like, I want to go into a neon stream
and he's getting slapped the shit out
by Bradley Martin, or
he's saying some dumb shit to Iggy Azalea
and she's like, what the fuck, and like, being
all creeped out, like, I like
that, cause it's just funny as fuck,
right, that's why I like Speed,
that's why I like Kaisenet,
it's like, you know, why I like all of these, like,
early, you know, I mean these early, young streamers.
Because they actually know what's going on.
And Bagwork is definitely...
I keep saying, and I will keep seeing Bagwork as the example.
Because Bagwork, to me, Kindcoin and StreamerCoin are very good in what they're doing.
They know what they're doing. The donating uh stuff is very cool concept and i think it works in a way
where um you know streamer coin has been on the t-shirt of kai sanette for the last fucking week
you know what i mean like how insane is that like never before would i ever see a meme coin
on someone on kai san Kai's T-shirt ever?
I would never, I would think that would be a concept.
And they've done it in such a way where it's like,
it doesn't even feel like it's a meme coin on their shirt.
It's like, yeah, it's crazy.
But yeah, Bagwork is the only example of a coin
where I actually feel like I'm enjoying that stream.
So yeah, there hasn't been another yeah those those
kids are good bro like they're actually entertaining people like they're they remind me of like some
actual streamers you know yeah they're doing crazy shit like neon like yeah like if neon
had like two other friends with him it's like neon jack dovey. And what's the, who's the, I always forget his name.
The guy that always preaches about being Muslim.
Or, you know, what's his name?
What's his name, Cap?
He always preaches about being Muslim.
Bold head.
Hennock.
What?
Sorry, I missed what you were talking about.
You're talking about Hennock?
What's his name?
You said he's a bald guy who talks about
meme coins? No, being Islam.
Muslim.
Always.
He's basically like Leon.
He's fucked with Andrew Chek for a while.
Sneeko?
Sneeko, that's it yes
sneakers sneakers I was the game like who the hell is the guy talking about right
now yeah sneaker sneaker sneaker I always forget sneaker I think he's a
Muslim anymore oh you know okay but he kind of fell off though he kind of fell
off he is not as big as he used to be but what I'm saying his thing was just
like I'm gonna do everything Andrew Tate does right yeah yeah yeah yeah but it worked it worked it worked um but what i'm saying is if all them
three got together that's what bag work is you know what i mean and uh it's worked very well for
them all right but you watch based house uh Episode 1, though, is the question? No, I haven't.
I will, but...
I'll tell you what.
I watched 10 minutes of it.
Is it good?
Yeah, I didn't expect it to be good.
I'll tell you what.
there's a lot of potential with how much production they're throwing at it um but the
There's a lot of potential with how much production they're throwing at it.
people they have are probably they're going to be the the driving factor in it failing i'm not
gonna lie yeah after a while after watching it i was like wow they couldn't have picked like
less entertaining people are you gonna watch this um is that out yet the solana summer house that all the girls no no i don't watch reality tv to begin
with because it's brain rock garbage nonsense and uh yeah that's why i don't think that appealing
to that is even a good idea so them doing a house and filming it like a reality television show is
probably the dumbest thing they can do and it's not making content that's my opinion yes the solana
summer society a girl but you know what you know what
i'm saying though right like reality tv and being a streamer and creating content are like way
different and you'll know exactly what i'm saying when you watch the first five minutes of that
shit yeah they're trying to do it like the real world if you ever watch the real world that's
what they're trying to do with the base house by the way yeah i yeah i don't like it so yeah i probably won't watch it or like uh how they
did jersey shore where they like filmed the people in the house and every there's like a put away
every two seconds talking to somebody about how they feel about what just happened in the previous
clip yeah that's not my style. Yeah, I'd be interested.
And, like, the whole thing, I think, about what's appealing to streamers and long-form content is the fact that it doesn't do that.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
You can watch and relate with the person on, like, a real human level, and there's, like, nothing in between that's, like, fucking it up.
So, yeah.
What do you think about bagbook uh i think i like what they're doing i think they're the only ones who are really putting an effort
into like right like it actually yeah yeah yeah but they but they understand what they're doing
right yeah that's why it's like you know what i mean so like it's very
intentional and they know what people are gonna like in this space and they know what they can
do in order to trigger buying yeah yeah that's kind of like that's the difference lane it's like
yeah it actually feels like a kick or twitch stream you know yes and they're trying to get
you to give them money yeah it's honest you know what i mean it's not like i'm gonna be
here only on pump fun for the content because that's clearly not why they're here they're here
to rack the fuck up and work for their bags which they have to so which they're going to which
they're doing or try or at least making the strong attempt you know what i mean which you got to
respect like whether you like what they're doing or think that's going to be
like a successful model for a sustainable period like you know whether you like it or not steve
will do it got his fucking you know like his popping status from drinking full bottles of
liquor at 17 so yeah now not much behind that either that's why i said like i still feel like the same way about my um
i still feel the same way about creator coins um but like yeah create coin then uh
i'm bullish on the actual platform and creator coins in the long run if that makes sense yeah
yeah yeah but yeah like i said i think it's actually gonna work uh with what pump funds
doing but they need to get different people involved that's like their biggest problem
right now bag work is like that's why they spend that's why that's
someone like bag work to like so you heard about pump fun like spending the money on them to go to
the fight right yeah that's i'm fun blatantly making an effort like yo like they may not
do anything right at the fight but if they're able to do anything you know how many people are
going to be talking about pump fun like that so they were like we're going to pay for these kids to go to this fight or whatever we're going out on a limb
because if they're able to pull something off of this fight they get on pay-per-view or get on tv
and then everybody's talking about pump fun for the next week that's going to be you know a massive
return on their investment like what's a hundred grand if pump fun generates over like five ten
million dollars in fees you
know what i mean so like i think they they're willing to take the risk they got lawyers you
know what i mean so like if they see potential in a coin like i can see them throwing a fuck
ton of money at it like they did with these kids for example you know what the biggest problem i
fuck if i see coming go ahead and it has nothing to do with crypto.
As soon as these morons do something and somebody sues,
and it's going to connect back to pump fund.
And they're all going to be fucked.
Bro, they made $550,000 in five days.
No, I know.
But when somebody sues because somebody got hurt from a prank or some shit.
But Magneto, this is the thing.
When you have money money suing doesn't
matter people get sued all the time with money and guess what they don't even see the paperwork
no yeah when they somebody gets hurt and they get sued and it goes back to pump fun
just yeah i'm not worried about that with their 900 billion dollars i mean that's not that much
but they got like a fuck ton of cash when hand. When you have $900 billion, listen, when you have $900 billion, that just makes the law too big.
That just makes the person who's suing get paid more.
The more you got, the more you're paying out.
How does the person who's suing pay for their lawyer?
So like if you rear end me, listen, I do this shit all the time.
So like if you rear-end me, listen, I do this shit all the time.
I'm 52 years old, bro.
If you rear end me with 25,000 bodily, that's the maximum that I can get.
Unless you live with like in a house and have homeowners or you live with your mom, I can
sue her homeowners.
If your cousin got homeowners, your aunt, your uncle, I could go after their homeowners
legally.
The bigger that amount is, that first number, bro, is the bigger amount number bro is the bigger i can almost guarantee
your lawyer's not beating so if you got not if you got billions of dollars i'm not settling for
40 000 but you're also not winning magneto and you don't have the money to sustain me in court
no the court's free the lawyer's. They work on straight commission, 33%.
When you get hurt and somebody else is liable,
you don't need one fucking dollar to sue.
Trust me.
My lawyer was like the top lawyer in the whole Northeast,
Victor Margera.
Look him up.
$32 million settlement.
And that's only because them insurance companies
them them insured that's that was their max but believe me when somebody got a nine billion
dollar fucking business man i don't know well see i could be wrong i don't know nothing about
none i just know about suing the more the more money you got the more money to sue it gets
know about suing the mom the more money you got the more money to sue it gets yeah yeah i don't
know i don't know i don't know i don't know what we're talking about but i just want to get back to
if they get pumped fun gets sued i don't know if they get yeah and i'm pretty sure pump fun will
be fine but it will they got a team of jewish lawyers ready to deploy at any moment but i get
your point though nito like it's it's not never it's never good
Money don't matter there's the money don't matter these dudes hurt somebody bro
It's gonna be millions
On video a year ago
six months ago
yeah but it wasn't connected
they're working for pump fun now
if they hurt somebody
and somebody's shoes
nobody's gonna hurt nobody bro
they're gonna get paid
nobody's gonna hurt nobody
go the fuck back to sleep
whatever hole you crawled out of bro
nobody sits here waits for books to come talking shit, bro.
You'll be saying some dumb shit, man.
I don't be saying nothing dumb.
You can't beat me.
You can't beat me, so you should have some fucking respect.
You're right.
Otherwise, you can pull up 29-page drive.
I'm doxxed.
No fucking consent.
No fucking nothing needed. You can pull up, but you won't. I'm doxxed. No fucking concern. No fucking
no nothing needed.
You can pull up, but you won't.
You won't.
That's a fact.
And I sued the
MTA bus. It hit me.
My knee.
Shut the fuck up. You're the one telling everybody to sue people.
Nico, how you sue people?
Nico, how you sue people? Shut the fuck up? You're a bigot, bro
Means
We don't know what that big it means when he's sitting there talking about soon, but he tells everybody to
It's a joke when I talk about it.
It's always a fucking joke.
That's a hypocrite.
You won't pull up, and that's not a joke.
Isn't it big?
That's not a fucking joke.
No way was needed right on my property.
You can shoot the fuck out of me, bro.
Yo, someone is fired up today.
I was going to say, what do you mean?
That's why I don't even go live, bro.
I don't even go live.
You don't think... Let me ask even go live. You don't think...
Let me ask you a question.
You don't think that these guys are signing waivers?
Like on some real shit?
I was going to say half of it's probably scripted right before it's actually filmed.
Think about how many people YouTube has paid on YouTube.
And YouTube has funded.
That turned around and went and did some dumb shit on strength.
Who's suing YouTube? bro it waves liability from the company
Nobody's suing nothing bro. These guys are not even doing nothing that crazy
They're running they might getting they might get sued yeah, they might get or hurt they might get hurt
Or hurt.
They might get hurt.
Did he actually leave the...
I don't know if he was actually upset.
I didn't even know what was going on then.
No, he was definitely...
He was definitely tired.
He was definitely upset.
Hey, they're already splitting those numbers before that shit is even filmed, right?
They already know how much money is coming in, how much they're going to make.
Then they're filming it and splitting the cost.
I mean, that shit...
Let's be real.
I didn't even know happened with Nia.
Like, I just felt like he was talking and then...
I don't know.
I don't even know what happened.
No, as soon as I disagre happened. As soon as I disagreed
with him about being able to
sue Pump Fun, he just
turned the jets on.
He's had enough of us
talking about. Listen, we're trying to pump the room.
We're trying to pump the room, not dump that shit.
Yeah, that was crazy.
What's up, Bucks?
Hey, shit, man. How you been?
Yeah, I've been chilling, man.
I've been chilling.
Are you alive?
They were asking if you were dead and all kinds of crazy shit.
No, I'm in the shadows.
I'm in the shadows.
But I've been...
Yo, Bucks, that was quite the entrance, bro.
That shit was funny, bro.
I don't even want to argue with the guy today, bro.
I know, I know, I know.
You didn't even have the energy to go
back and forth and then by the time i don't i don't i don't this space recorded i wanted to
say some shit but i can delete the recording after that but the last like the thing is like with this
like that like that should be the last thing anyone's thinking about do i buy the token do i not do i sell the token do i
not like that's what people are worried about it's like yeah yeah i'm buying it
no one's thinking about no one's thinking about suing or nothing i've been buying bad work a lot
what did you start buying in at me 1.4 oh yeah you're in there you gotta stick with yeah you
gotta stay with them 1.4 is definitely a good entry but now definitely not a good entry
yeah yeah yeah the last few days not a good entry in my opinion too many people talking about it bro
that'd be just like after the slap happened after the slap
happened that was it bro i felt like when more people were talking about it was kind of bearish
to be completely honest because everybody was like sell i was watching the chart as people
were talking about it and people were like selling into more and more people talking about it so
um they obviously wanted to you know sell on the new people who were coming i saw even early in
that i saw it like 200k and i was like okay this coin seems like kind of sketchy they look all
right like the stream was okay uh it wasn't like that what they're doing now is much better what
they were doing the first couple days what they were doing the first couple days was dog shit
and then i saw it like i saw it like two or three days later at 1.4 and i was like fuck this
is high and then i just i don't know i thought i just bought you and i started watching their
streams and then it just the rest was history from there that name bag work is good yeah and
not they're the kid they're kids bro they're young yeah it reminds me of an early nelt boys
kind of thing it actually feels like watching like. It actually feels like watching a neon stream or something.
And I think that's the biggest difference between them and 99%.
If they join the based house or work for someone else,
like sign a contract to Soul Jakey, it's over.
is over yeah i don't think they will just based on the style of what they've been doing uh i don't
Yeah, I don't think they will, just based on the style of what they've been doing.
know if you uh checked out uh the season two episode one of the base house uh books but it's
not like uh the same style of content in the sense of how it's formatted and produced uh the base
house thing they're doing a jersey shore real world style of uh production where
they cut away to each member of the house talking about the previous scene type of thing which i did
not really think is there was going to be there uh you know i didn't think that's how they were
going to go about it so they're doing like a love island yes like literally it's like the office
bro it's like it reminded me like the office bro it's like
it reminded me of the office and i was like wow this is gonna be weird because like i'd rather
go watch the office yeah it would work if they had like really good content creators you know
what i mean like if it was people who were really well established behind camera and like you know
we're doing crazy and had like a bunch of money or whatever and
they were going out and spending money and you know doing crazy vlogs or whatever but but everyone
feeds off the drama of that right unless they have drama in the house like that's what everyone goes
to those shows for not even not even it's like i don't even know how to describe just go watch
for yourself you'll know exactly what i'm talking about none of us should be saying like uh jersey shore like
love anything like anything it shouldn't be like anything it should be your own thing if you want
it to work that's a style or a format of content's fine this is what i was saying to me when i first
joined is like i think why streamers and people like who are content creators in things like on
youtube or on twitch the reason people
like like is because it's not that like heavily produced style of originality of it it's long
form you relate with the person on like a an extended time frame there's no camera cutting
it's not edited you get to like just see them how they are as a person and that's why you actually
connect with them and that's why people are
Like obsessed with streamers nowadays
Is because they feel like it's like one of their god damn
Friends you know like they know
They don't know them but they watch
Them for four hours a day
Non-stop with no
Like you know what I mean they get to see them as a
Real person whereas like this shit is like
You were filming
Their journey of becoming content
creators that's the best way to put it yeah like constantly right now is doing the mafia fun
which is basically just a subathon and then speed right now is doing speed does america
which is traveling to every state in america exactly yeah that shit is like
whereas like and this is no hate on any of those kids because i respect like you know anybody who's
out there trying to get money and you know grind however they you know decide to grind
but my thing is is like it can't be about like these guys like you know what i mean like the
guys themselves have to be entertaining for the content to work you can't just like film people trying to be something and
call that content does that make sense i still hate creative coins like creative coins yes like
it's because like 99.9999 percent of people are just turning on their webcam and thinking that
they have it like people are going to give me money you don't have the source you need to have the source if you don't have the source you just fucking yeah but put it
this way the first five minutes into me watching it and like i said like i want to make this as
obvious as possible that i'm not hating because i'm not at all like i'd love to see this all work
out and then to like have super cool people in that house doing super dope shit and like you
know one guy in
a room you know producing beats for rappers and having rappers come on stream like playboy max
was the plaque boy max was doing or something similar like or he's just in the room like in
his lab like making beats and doing cool shit with music like another dude who's like actually
good at video games and can pull a video gaming crowd and shit like that they need shit going like that so they're like diverse and not just like all over ct jumping into spaces begging
for attention yeah yeah and to me it's i don't know personally if these guys were in crypto
before as content creators but these guys seem like they weren't you know what i mean
it kind of seems like they kind of they weren't in the space every day and i feel like that's
that's what's made it better for them i feel like if they would have come into the space like they
were like already known in the space and like they came as like you know you know because people
that have been in the space every day they tweet tweet every day, they fucking GM every day. They know how to engage
with the space. Yeah, no, I
think it's good that they haven't
and they're just like
nobodies and no one knows
and now they just come into the space
and they're just doing this content. Like, to me,
that's perfect.
Like, that's the perfect situation. Like,
I don't want to watch fucking
Gainsey, who's been in the
space for the last seven years who's just gonna fucking turn on his webcam and talk about fucking
what he eats for breakfast you know what i mean yeah like no one gives a fuck like i'd rather
like someone like new come to space maybe learn the process of crypto or learn about like meme coins and
like that and then like most people that are coming out from the space exterior people that
are coming from you know uh non-crypto to crypto they actually have a life as well anyone that is
in crypto ct right now 99.99% of them don't have a job, they don't have a life,
they sit in their bedroom all day.
Yeah, I mean, think about how much time it takes
to do what some of these people do.
Yeah, yeah. So it's like, what do they actually,
what do these guys actually provide
to someone that actually
has an active lifestyle outside of
crypto?
The Bagwork Boys,
the only ones that have any like
faith in any way to break out the house thing i think someone new is gonna come in like me just
said yeah and take over it ain't gonna be bro i'm telling you these guys are too cringy that no
that's exactly what i was basically just saying And anybody who thinks that me and books are hating
Go watch the newest episode they just released
And like I just said
It has to do with people who are trying to be something
Wherein it feels as the viewer
That they aren't
And like that's like coming from somebody who has no idea
Who any of these guys are Because I've been here for less than a year.
You know, so I don't know.
And I watched a lot of shit on YouTube like that used to be my thing.
Like when I was in college and I was doing stuff like I used to watch a lot of vlogs.
I used to watch a lot of partying content.
I used to watch like a ton of that stuff.
And if you're just not an interesting person, it's's gonna be really fucking hard for your content to work yeah
can't just fucking open up your webcam and speak or yeah or just like get on a camera and do dumb
things and think people are gonna like you know i don't know it's my point it's born it's born and it's just on off it's inauthentic you know
what i mean it's like you can tell when somebody's forcing shit yeah you know and that's what it
feels like it's like the og it's like the og grift it's like i said i said i'll say it before
and i'll say it again but when nfts were coming around all the influencers tried making their own nft collection
when trading groups became popular every fucking influencer influencer made their own trading group
and charged people when you know meme coins came around every influencer tried making their own
meme coin and pumping it now content creator coins are around everyone content creator is trying to
make their own content creator coin and around everyone content creator is trying to make
their own content creator coin and fucking you know make as much money as they can like it's just
it's just another grift for uh you know 99 of the influencers that are already in this space
and it has ruined the space but it ruined meme coins yeah no that's my space before this i just
changed it was our meme coins dead and i actually feel like me coins right now the dead mean coin theory
Obviously, they're not dead dead, but you know
What is the point of launching a main coin right now when someone can create a create a coin and send it to fucking
5 10 mil and make you know 100 bands off of it, you know what it does well you saw a popsy did was uh
Say sways or whatever the fucking kid's name was pupsi like bought it on his main wallet
which only showed three hundred dollars right but then he ended up selling like any so he bought
like let me see if i can find it it's like three hundred dollars like and i'm not self-shaming this
guy by any means but this is my exact point i think what me it's like 300 like and i'm not self-shaming this guy by any means but
this is my exact point i think what meep's trying to make is that he bought like 300 on his main
wall obviously he's got a shit ton of copy traders and they saw him only like throw 300 so i'm
assuming they piled in after him he somehow sold like 5x of the supply of the coins he bought which
means he bought on nine like different side wallets and then sent all those coins to his main wallet and proceeded to dump them all at once
that is like asinine toxic to the space and if that's going to keep happening i don't know if
it's going to like this is sustainable long term like i really don't multi-wallet has been like a
thing for quite a while no not even the multi-wallet.
It's just the fact that he has such a farm.
You know what I mean?
He has a quite literal farm setup.
He doesn't even have to try.
Yeah, when you get to that status of people know that you trade meme coins on a regular basis
and you're winning a lot, or at least you show pnls
on the timeline like everyone's going to try their hardest to find your wallet and buy whatever
you're buying buying right and that gives them that gives basically gives them the advantage to
you know if i bought a coin and then you and 10 other people started buying my coin like bro i
can just dump off dump on you every time i want. I don't even have to wait for the coin to naturally go up.
I just dump when, you know, the 10 other people and you buy the coin.
So, yeah.
That's like, I'm not sure if you've known, but that's been, I think, for quite a while now.
Like, it's farming your followers.
I mean, people like, you know, Mitch and stuff like that.
You know, I do like Mitch, but, like, all Mitch used to do was just shill coins and then sell them.
I thought Mitch's thing was that when he bought coins, he didn't sell them on people's heads.
Well, his public wallet, yes.
Well, yeah. Yeah. bought coins he didn't sell them on people's heads well his public wallet yes well yeah yeah
well if you believe any of that or the lore behind mitch then he only trades on his public wallet because he has one soul in february no yeah well it's obviously not true is it
and anyone ever thought that he only was trading off a public wallet he'd be crazy
what do you mean he didn't have one soul in february mean
no i do believe he actually started off with probably like not a lot of soul like maybe no
like his story is that he like ran it up lost it all was went down to one soul and then he ran it
back up again to like multi-millions.
I do believe he probably started off with a little bit of soul.
But to say
that he was only trading with one wallet,
it's like that's bullshit, man.
Any good trader that makes
that amount of money isn't just fucking buying
with one wallet.
They got 20 different wallets.
I don't know.
Jason Cohen followed me.
I don't know if you'd be alarmed or happy about that.
You heard books?
A Cohen followed me.
Who's that?
Don't worry about it.
Who is that motherfucker?
But yeah.
This space is cooked right now
completely cooked there's only one coin the rest of the coins are dog shit
uh what's going on with motion
why are you motherfuckers dumping
motherfuckers are dumping yeah it's at like
see that's how you know
I haven't even peeped
I saw it the other day
I was looking at Magic Key
didn't
see in there
I might have to grab some more
then
shit
see what was going on
but uh
can't you guys just
hold an NFT
like have you ever just
held an NFT
yeah bro if you got issues with that shit just fucking literally don't even look at it yeah yeah Can't you guys just hold an NFT? Like, have you ever just held an NFT?
Yeah, bro, if you've got issues with that shit,
just fucking literally don't even look at it.
Yeah, yeah, that's why.
It's not like a coin where it's going to go up,
you know, overnight.
He's old.
Yeah, it's crazy
that you have to even say that.
Yeah, it is what it is. Like, the fact that you have to even say that yeah is that i it is what it is
like the fact that you have to maybe even like explain to anybody that like yeah i mean this
isn't gonna be like a quick turnaround not even that like there's just some things that you just
buy and just don't never like have you ever collected anything i've got tens of thousands
of nfts that i don't even want to know what your wallet looks like i got tens of thousands of nfts that i don't even want to
know what your wallet looks like i got tens of thousands of nfts and different wallets
that i've just never sold there is just some things that i just buy just to buy you know
what i mean like i don't even consider it an investment like that is just oh like i like
this piece of art i'm gonna buy it you know what i mean like i have genuinely done that so many times throughout the nft bull run where i've just gone fuck
bro i've been but i've been i've been that down bad though before you know like where you're so
down bad that you buy something and you're like fuck man like i probably shouldn't have bought
that because like i need the money so i'm gonna have to go sell that now and then you know next time i get paid i'm gonna speculate on something else
and then you know like oh man like that didn't do anything for me in 48 hours so like i'm gonna
i'm gonna go to the next thing you know like yeah and um you know i definitely feel like nfts got to
a point where like that became like There was no need for it.
Like, I was making enough money on meme coins or leverage trading
where it was like, if I buy an NFT, I'm just not looking for profit anymore.
I'm just buying the NFT.
So...
And that's what it should be.
That's what it should have been with Motion.
It should have been like, we've made all this money from leverage trading
or buying meme coins to a point where we just buy the motion and we just hold it forever.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah.
That's sort of like, yeah.
It's like, I don't know how to, in RuneScape, who would call it a clan badge, right?
who would call it a clan badge, right?
You get a clan badge,
and you can sell clan badges,
but no one sells them because
it's like you're a part of the clan, right?
not that type of clan,
not the racist type of clan, but, you know,
different type of clans in RuneScape.
And if you hold that clan,
you know, but no one sells them.
Are you playing RuneScape right now
yeah yeah there's a game mode on right now
it's called leaks and it's like a special
game mode so
I've been on it for the last
like 12 hours so
check the DM I just sent you this is really funny
I sent it to you too books
I'm pretty cooked right now
what's good
streets
yo yo what's up man how's everyone doing I'm pretty cooked right now. What's good, Streets?
Yo, yo, what's up, man?
How's everyone doing?
I'm just chilling.
Who is that?
Who is that?
That girl.
There's no girl, bro.
No, I know.
Not you.
The woman.
Cap sent me.
Cap sent me a girl.
Yeah, what's good, Streets?
How you doing?
Did you not look at the post above it? No, I didn't even'm doing good bro i'm just a pair i'll look at him in there
i can't i can't can't do two things you're locked in on the runescape i get it no i'm not i'm
looking on streets asking what streets is doing what you been on two streets brother i've been
the same shit i've renewed for the last nine months with books man leverage trading teaching people and that's about it nice bro where have you been though
i've seen you around for quite a while i've been in the shadows here and there
i've been in the trenches bro been in the trenches i'm trying to i ain't trying to do my own thing. I'm trying to do my own thing, you know?
So, like, yeah, I definitely, I'm trying to come back slowly.
It's like, yeah, I don't know.
I already know what I'm doing, but I'm definitely here in, like, the, in the, you know.
The shadows is what people might say.
I mean, yeah, I mean, like, in the shadows or I'm in the spirit form, you know, I'm here what people might say. I mean, yeah,
I mean,
like in the shadows or I'm in the spirit form,
you know,
I'm here.
I'm always here.
But,
me been through a lot of shit this summer,
straight up.
Like,
he has,
with that,
you can suck me stick.
Am I?
He has,
he has,
bro.
He's been,
I fucking love this kid,
bro.
Ain't,
ain't nothing gonna fucking make me not like him or turn on him.
Yeah, bro.
So, yeah.
Nah, nah, it is true.
Them two things that happened.
And my sister also fell ill recently, but she's getting much better now.
But, you know, this, like, summer has been, like, yo, super crazy for me.
So, it just sort of, like, took it out of me.
But, yeah, I know, you know know you know and maybe a month or so
once everything's sort of you know back to normal for myself like i'll definitely be back
cooking so yeah it just takes time but i ain't trying to like go into it i'm just trying to like
be not doing spaces like every you know maybe like a week or so
I'll do like a space do like a space I'll do like you know what I mean so I'm just trying to
ease myself back into it you know it might just be random spaces at random times but
at least that way I know that I'm at least doing something you know like to progress myself forward
into like coming back into the you know not I'm always in the community but like you know
progress myself as being like someone that was a prominent person within the community
hosting spaces every day or co-hosting every day or sharing out for like to me like doing a space
every week you know um you know at a random time is like my progression because before that I was
doing nothing I was completely void and
no one knew where i was so you know yeah it might seem like slow progression to
you know a few people but to me it's like yeah that's still progression right so
yo as long as you're alive bro healthy and everyone's good that's what we care about
and you can come back anytime bro bro. We're still around.
Books ain't going anywhere.
I ain't going anywhere.
And, you know,
the community is going to be here always, bro.
So, be good.
Yeah, man.
For sure.
For sure.
Appreciate that.
What's the market looking like?
You ever here?
I can tell you for free that
it's going to be quite a hectic
Quite a hectic week that's coming up
Yeah
So we're about to see either the biggest
Pump we've seen since August
Or we're about to see the biggest dumps
Tell them what you think is going to happen
If 25 Or 50 or higher Tell them what you think is gonna happen if 25 okay you're
higher tell them what you think is gonna happen if nothing happens you know all
that okay let's go through that so we have a phone self coming up upcoming
sorry everyone knows this and it's very important day because
firstly in
August
we had a hint towards rate cuts in September and
So that price in the 25 basis points rate cut which we had a mini pump from or slightly big pump from I think around
What was it? 112,000? so I don't know but we went to
like 117 and then we dumped right back after so in September there's two
there's three things that could happen right so if we get that 25 basis point
cut we know it's gonna dump I know it's gonna to dump. I know it's going to dump. More likely to dump because it's priced in already.
Everyone's expecting it.
So leading up to that date, it's going to pump and then it's going to dump.
Two, if there's a 50 basis point cut, that's extremely bullish because no one's expecting that.
So that's going to be the opposite of a dump. We're're gonna have a giga pump that might even send us to who
knows what maybe new all-time highs and then thirdly point number three if we
get nothing so no no rate cuts nothing same as usual that's gonna send us very
low but it's only gonna be temporary temp very
temporary why because okay the market is gonna dump but it's gonna recover
because the next month so month following so October is gonna be quite
bullish because they're gonna start thinking maybe we're gonna get a rate
cut this month so it's gonna be a cycle again where it's going to pump again and if we don't get a cut
in september we're more likely to get a cut in october because they they've almost kind of
promised us in a way that this year we're going to see some few rate cuts and it's going to happen
eventually it's going to happen if it's this month next month it's going to happen
but ultimately for this month so what i really think is gonna happen is we do get the 25 basis
point cut leading up to it is gonna pump so we are about i think two days if we don't count today
it's gonna be in tomorrow sorry no if we don't count in 17th, so 17th about about a day and a half, okay
We're gonna we're gonna see a rate cut and
We're gonna see a small pump maybe from here until then and even on the day where the rate cuts announced we're gonna see a little pump
But right after it's gonna be dumped dumped the whole way down why
because it's priced in everyone
knew it was going to happen so
that's it that's about it
and I don't know if books agrees I don't
know if cap wants to say something but
that's my thoughts
about the whole day or the whole week
that's going to play out next week
and also
the wrong Powell told us we're getting a rate cut didn't he like a hundred percent he did yeah he did but we don't know what he's going to play out next week. And also... But Jerome Powell told us we're getting a rate cut.
Didn't he like a month ago?
He did, yeah.
He did.
But we don't know what he's going to do.
He has said some shit like that before where we didn't get a rate cut, bro.
He said we're getting a rate cut and we didn't get a rate cut.
Just because they said they're shifting their monetary policy outlook
doesn't mean he's going to do it the next meeting.
But usually it does.
Guys, I think we're going to get a rate cut.
But if it's 0.25, it's going to pump a little bit and then dump.
Obviously, guys, it's already priced in.
We started off at 130.
Just real quick, books.
The reason why it was more confirmed this time is because in the beige book where they go over
You know the outlook while they're you know out out of in quotation marks out all out of office
The beige book basically guaranteed that they were gonna start easing
Listen, I want to say something like you correct me if I'm wrong
But nothing's really
changed since he hinted towards that 25 base correct cut so if jerome powell's really thinking
economically then why there's literally no reason for him to you know do that basis cut now
because there's nothing that's changed Positively
Well the PPI was the reason why people were screaming
For him to cut rates
At that point
We need 25 points boys
No sorry we need like we need a lot
We need a big rate cut
At least 50 for a massive pump
What I sent you about the housing
Prices and how the rate
Quantifies How much your house
is worth explains exactly why we need a rate cut yeah yeah i i saw that um i saw that piece of
information and i think we definitely do need some rate cuts at some point um i i said again right
either this month next month but in 2025 we're definitely going to see
some rate cuts i just don't think there's enough um changes that happened positively for them to
actually like cut rates but if he does cut rates it's because he was forced to do so by trump
he they forced his hand to cut the rates so let's see man like regardless no changes will dump 25 base points will cause a
dump like we might have some many movements up but we will not see like a you know a rally you
know like a massive like rally up the lack of demand in the market was why jerome powell said
that we shouldn't be raising rates but then on the other hand scott bessen and trump are on the other are
arguing that people there is no demand because the rates are so high you know so like they're
at an impasse right now and one of them's gotta to fold you know and i don't think trump and scott
are going to so they forced jerome paul's hand when he showed up at the fed and was like we're
gonna reevaluate your budget we're gonna reevaluate what you're spending all your money on all this shit because in reality all that
funding comes from the treasury so i think that's how they got him to to do it and shift his outlook
and that's probably why we'll only get a 0.25 like book said because he doesn't want to do it
yeah exactly and to me when when you don't want to do something
based off the economic data and you're getting forced to do something that's you shouldn't be
doing what that tells me is that you're essentially pushing towards that black swan event where you
want something bad to happen because look if you really care for America, for the country,
then you would make sure, like, economically it's doing fine.
And forcing a rate cut just sends us into, like, a downward spiral.
So, I mean, the next several months is going to be very key.
This rate cut will be very important as well. I personally hope it doesn't happen.
I hope it doesn't happen i hope it doesn't happen i hope we
at least get 50 basis points or no no car all because a 25 basis point car is just
it's gonna bring us down to 160 170 yeah it's bad it's it's really bad yeah well i like that
not right away it's gonna pump a little bit to bait yeah last minute people in but we're gonna
have higher lows so here's what i think is gonna happen i think we got one more 160 170 chance
in us talk to me nice and then so we started off at 130 we made made it to 245, right? What was the highest we went in the last week or two?
Like 244.
244.
245, we'll say, right?
Yeah.
So if we start off 30 higher, we might, in October, if we see a 50 basis point cut, rip like crazy.
Do we have a November Fed meeting?
We have one every month.
Yeah, except for July.
Or August, I mean, sorry.
And December, right?
I think they do on December too, no?
Yeah, I think they do.
I think they do.
Let me make sure.
Hold on, I forget.
And by the way, the high on school is 249.53.
Yeah.
No November.
We have December.
So ready?
Okay.
So September, here's what's going to happen, guys.
September 25 basis point.
We're going to rip, and we're going to pull back a little.
October, we're going to get a huge fucking rate cut, hopefully.
And we're going to fucking rip, yo.
We're going to fucking rip.
We're going to go into october ripping i think and then
november is gonna be nuts so you know there's a chance we get a higher yo it's either 25 or or
or higher or do you think he does like 50 now just we might we might get a big one now you know what
i mean just to get it out of the way and see how the market reacts and then if we get 50 now just we might we might get a big one now yo we might you know what i mean just to get
out of the way and see how the market reacts and then if we get 50 now we're gonna dump in october
unless we get 25 in october as well we're we're gonna dump we're getting multiple cards if it's
25 or 50 we're gonna dump if it's if it's one full base point at one point we're gonna dump we're
gonna pull back and then rip but it's just it's higher lows bro we're not going to dump start over at 130 again we're going to dump and start
over at 180 once between 160 and 190 right so now you got to think like if we went from 130 to 240
in a month and a half two months what are we going to do from 180 190 you understand what i'm trying
to say we're going to all-time highs and then
another fed meeting and another rate cut bro we're breaking all-time highs like there's
you saw that i said there's zero percent chance we don't in my opinion if all of that happens
just like you said also books if soul goes back to like the 160s 170 a lot of other coins would be down as well
And if Bitcoin starts rallying up again, then that's when we see all season in my opinion
Yeah, I don't I don't know bro
You don't know but it will happen bro. It will happen just when everything including Bitcoin aren't rallying
I'm telling you bro. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen
It will eventually everything bro. Everything happens
NFTs they will happen. They'll have the time to
Oh, we'll see
Bro, it's literally every every cycle is the same shit, bro
It's not this cycle is completely different than any and every cycle I've ever seen being in this space
Well on some real shit like completely different bro. I
Don't know my I still have that belief that oh, it's cool
Like right like prob like a proper rally where it's not just one coin but multiple coins running at the same time, you know
Obviously, we did have a few runs here and there but I think there's gonna be a time where we have like multiple points running
so let's
You know, let's um
Let's see when that pullback happens and then I'll come up again and I'll be like yo
I was right
Cuz I've been telling people to you know accumulate when it but me
I mean, I think there's gonna be pull pullback. What do you mean you were right?
I don't think there's going to be an alt season like you're thinking.
Well, not like a full-blown alt season where we had in 21 or earlier.
What is Solana?
Huh?
What is Solana?
What is XRP?
Everything except Bitcoins and all.
What is Doge?
What is ETH? what is xrp everything except bitcoins and all what is doge what is these yeah one by one my brother xlm xvg xj dick all the fuck cardano like but nobody gives a fuck
about them bullshit ass coins no more no one wants to listen to those lying bullshit ass founders no more straight up bro it's times
have changed people learned lessons and people smartened up bro you want to know what i saw
circulating recently was that list of all the coins that were in the top 100 in 2017
and like really different now yeah different it's not even remotely the same those are alts
those are the alts that everyone
that's not the point it's a 2017 before 2017 no one give a fuck about no alt season it doesn't
yo it doesn't have to be the same alts we saw that were sure it could be new alts that just
come out of meme coins already like this is gonna be better they have harder pumps, they have better pumps, and no lies.
You don't need to sit there and wait for utility
and wait for anyone
to adopt. It's a fucking meme coin.
It's a gamble. And if you look around streets,
AVNT, Pith,
Zora, Bass,
there's a bunch of
ones that have 1000x'd.
Literally went up 1000% in the last
month or two. While we're waiting for alt season correct like it just it times have changed man
time uh i don't know my eyes you know went up uh 700 in a month what's it called athena it's a new
stable coin issuer they're gonna be like a stable coin issuer in the united states they're i don't
know how popular they're gonna be but they're popping on chain so people are buying the hell out of that
same thing with piff obviously people know what they're doing with chain link and
how they're going to be oracling and for solana you're talking about piff the dragon yeah
you know piff the dragon no man i listen man yo books do you at least think we have it i don't
think we're gonna do you at least think nfc's will run i hope obviously right i want nfts to run
they have to become popular again they will run and i hope it's new nfts that run but we need a
lot of people in the space for nfts meme points, alt-seasons. We don't have those people this time around.
That's not what I mean when they become popular.
Everyone's rich, bro.
When people actually have money, you know?
So, that's what happened last cycle.
Everyone had money.
Straight up, bro.
They had too much money.
No, no.
Everyone had money and everyone was here, man.
And, you know, we don't need everyone again
right because we got the banks now pumping all this money in and all that we need more people
we need more people we ain't got shit here like it feels like we've got less people now than we
did in 2017 and i know that that's not true i think personally i think nfts are dead forever i do too unless like i said they become
popping again somehow which is going to take a really powerful marketing machine everyone knows
what nfts are now like you know what i mean like we need it guys we need a lot of people that's
what we need if we have enough people there they'll always be around why because of the
gambling aspect right they're always going to be around. Why? Because of the gambling aspect, right? They're always
going to be around because you can go and take all your meme coin profits, crypto profits,
and roll it into NFTs. We don't have the people for it right now. We don't have the people for
pump fund. Pump fund fucking ruined meme coins, fam. It's oversaturated a market that, you know,
shouldn't be oversaturated. You know, shiba we saw doge we saw those big
runners before because there wasn't a million options launching on pump fund there was no pump
fund back then now you've got so many different options bro we're all over the place with this
shit so i don't know man times have changed i really believe that. Yeah, they have, yeah.
Everybody in this room is probably going to hate me for saying this,
but the only way NFTs are coming back is through gaming.
Yo, I'm telling you, I'm going to tell you right now,
NFTs will come back, bro.
I'm telling you right now.
It's not going to be in the way that you guys think.
It's going to be just the technology,
and people aren't going to know it's an actual NFT or any of that. it's just going to be like um they're going to use it for contract ownership
essentially i agree bro like you won't even know that call of duty is using the technology
yeah because that's how they that's how they implement and store the data you know what i
mean it's just going to be how they do it uh at that point and whether or not you want to
tap into that you're going to be able to like you'll have the option but most people won't even know
I agree with that or care. It's gonna be like fortnight
Like you're gonna be able to buy and sell your account like, you know, it's just that simple
Bro fortnight is dead like this. What did you see? Yo, did you see the recent numbers?
Did you see the recent numbers yo bro? I don't know. I literally
7,000 in, 7,000 in ranked
7,000
Yeah, because ranked is trash
Any ranked video game
Any casual
Ranked video game mode
Is toxic trash
For whatever game it's built on
The game is falling apart bro
What game?
No, it's falling apart.
Any ranked game mode on any video game is toxic for the underlying video game.
It's dead.
It's dying, bro.
It's...
Yo, it's gone.
I'm telling you, it's not going to be around for long.
All video games are dying.
It's a fact.
Fortnite is dying.
A lot of video games are fucking dying, yo
You wanna know why?
Because they suck now
Am I wrong, Meep?
You game
Players right now is 1 mil
No, because it's
Bro, there's too many sweats, yo
There's too many sweats
You join a ranked game, bro
And the instant you you land
you're getting sniped right now it's one million players playing right now and i tell you why it's
gotten crazy yeah go ahead same reason meme coins got crazy exactly one anyone can cheat and get a
bot now it's very easy bots yeah It was once very hard, bro.
People don't want to buy something high no more.
Same thing with Call of Duty, bro.
It's like you used to have to be good at that game to go around and shit on people the entire time.
And all you have to do now is buy some soft aim hacks or some wall hacks.
And you're somehow just as good as people who have been actually good at Call of Duty for a long time.
If you tell someone a token's at
25 mil market cap,
what do they tell you? They say,
go fuck yourself. I'm not buying that bullshit.
Right or wrong?
Fortnite is literally...
Did that used to happen in 2017
and in 2021?
No, because people could believe they would go to
300, 500 mil
Correct still right now even billions for nice the most billions
Well, everyone was waiting for big counter strikes such kind of strike is second and it goes to big game
Yeah, it's still the most online even this currently the second is still the most online play game
Yo, do you guys realize
counter-strike has nfcs yeah this is this is my entire thing yes this was my entire thing
this is the example i use every single time for how it would work in terms of exchange marketplace
they have the perfect setup that model though i don't get why
that they don't have to but anybody else could easily adopt it and make it seamless so people
don't know it's on the blockchain yeah but no one's gonna be yeah do you think they're gonna
be as big as counter-strike or are you anywhere near counter-strike
eventually no yeah i mean that you're asking essentially, like, if someone's going to rip off Counter-Strike's IP.
So the answer is no.
But Valorant is newer in the exact same game, but reskinned.
And that's extremely popular.
Valorant is, like, Valorant is dead.
Valorant's dogshit trash, but you understand my point.
No, but it's a dead game as well.
It's nothing compared to...
Now it is, but, like, when I was in school, it wasn't.
It's an old-ass game.
Obviously, it's a bad example.
I'm not gaming these days, me.
So is Dota 2.
Counter-Strike 2 just came out within the last four years.
What about Dota 2?
It's the same shit, bro.
It's the same game on a new code.
What about Dota 2 that's been out for like 15 years
What? Dota 2
I don't even know what that is
It's basically League of Legends
Oh I know what League of Legends is
Yeah
Dota 2 has 500,000 players
Playing right now
Bro 99%
Of that is boy
Nobody even knows what that is
Dota 2
Bro, Chinese people
Play that shit
There you go
I was going to say, nobody here knows
What that is
Maybe if you've used
League of Legends or WoW
Or something like that
Borderlands 4 right now is 200k
That shit's just trash bro that
is trash marvel rivals is really bad what happened to that game marvel rivals is less than 100k
holy no way yeah it's crazy yo do you guys know why NFTs went up so high last, you know, last cycle?
VCs?
Ellen DeGeneres.
VCs were part of it, but that's not the reason.
It was Ellen DeGeneres.
People.
There was people and money in the space.
There was people and money in the space, but there was something else, bro.
There was something else in the space.
Ellen DeGeneres was shilling board apes.
There was exclusivity. You know what exclusivity is? in the space but there was something else bro there was something else in this place there was
exclusivity you know what exclusivity is like if you were a board ape okay that meant you were
someone special in the space they made you feel special so a lot of a lot of these top nft
collections that were around now if you're a gay faggot like actually you're a gay faggot if you're
now like that's how crazy oh my god yo but back then yo if you had it it was status bro status
is like having a watch on your wrist it meant something okay now it did now actually like
things off it you know like back in the day like if you hold it you know if you had a d god back in the day
the amount of money you must have made of just holding it by getting airdrops whitelists you
know access to like pre-sales bro you could have made people did people made fucking you know 100
times what their nft was actually worth you know what i mean so i think the value that came from
nfts itself not just like popularity or like having a status
like man people didn't realize like when nfts were popping like you if you was a at a 50 sold
floor price or 100 sold floor price you know or a 10 floor price you was getting access to
everything you know you you could get whitelist to any project
get pre-sale to any token get airdrop to any airdrop that was happening on any you know
marketplace or defy project and to me that's really where the value came from was was that
and then obviously definitely the status the status of owning an nft was obviously a big thing
having a pfp um it's much different now. Like
anyone could rock any PFP and it doesn't matter. But back then to actually stand out as someone,
you actually had to hold a PFP over, you know, it had to be worth more than a thousand dollars.
If it was, you know, if your NFT was worth $300, no one gave a fuck about who you were.
You know, you was a brokey to most people.
So, you know, it's crazy to see, you know,
how far we've come from.
Like now people can actually have PFPs
that are worth fucking nothing.
It can just be a PFP of Batman.
If you have a PFP of Batman
and you're a meme coin trader showing 100k P&Ls,
people are going to start following you.
You know what I mean?
But if you had a fucking $5 PFP back in back in the day you were showing 10k pnls people would say it was fake
they'd be like oh that's fake pnls because you got a five dollar pfp it's so crazy how like far
we've come with like pfts and nfts it's yeah it's crazy yeah because back then it meant something
now it means nothing because it's lost all its value that
it once had and you mentioned all of those values i had the airdrops the price and all of that
status coming with it too so for an nft to go back up you would need a few things one you need
people to be rich again in the space you need people to make money
which we are doing with leverage reading getting people rich
two you would need a bunch of people to come into the space and buy and you would obviously need
people to hold it down you would need to you need them to hold it down and also the the there needs
to be value with the nft like okay what do you get out of holding the NFT?
Because look, what really pumps an NFT, okay,
isn't just the holders and stuff.
Like for you to hold, there needs to be some kind of incentive,
whether it's community, whether it's events
or some type of exclusivity that sends stuff.
That's why Bored Apes were 100 ETH
at one point, 200 ETH
because they had something connected to it.
You know, people had this vision
and they ran with that vision.
It was all speculation.
Speculation is what drove price up
even with utility coins.
It might be different this year though.
You know what I mean?
The reason the NFT's pump
might be different to what it was.
I think it's going to be. I think it's going to be.
I think it's going to be more around branding and actually creating a business out of it.
It'll be interesting to see what like reason that NFTs pump.
Do I think NFTs will go this time?
I don't know.
It will have to take a lot of people.
It would have to be new people because people came to uh in the space
when nfts were popping and it was also the reason that they left and you know crypto is because
well put it this way if if it's not like fine art or like some type of really good art from an actual
artist you know what i mean or it's like an exclusive club where you have high net worth
individuals like the crypto punks and in allunks and all the access and network that they have.
Or it's like a physical brand where they're creating something out of the IP as like a group.
You know what I mean?
Where it's not just like a crypto Twitter club.
I agree.
Yeah, no, I think it'll be interesting to see what happens.
But I do think
NFTs have...
You know, and will it be new NFTs?
Will it be old NFTs?
Will it be fucking...
Will it even be
NFTs? Will it be like
fucking 404?
I was literally just going to ask
about this. How do you feel about those? I really like 404 i mean i was literally just gonna ask about this what do you how do you feel about those
well 404s i really like 404s 404s is just how does the token pump
how do you pump the token on a 404 if people can just constantly swap out of the token for the nft
and vice versa yeah but you know it can be perfected i mean you know i know a lot of people didn't a lot of people
always say that right parks and uses a scam and shit but like box box is a perfect example of how
you can create speculation for a token for an nft and its token at the same time so i know i'm
actually asking like i'm not even saying that from like like a condescending perspective where I already know the answer. I actually don't know.
I don't think the concept to me screams that it's really hard to pump the chart.
Yo, I'm going to tell you guys right now, 4-4s don't work.
They don't work.
It's a big fucking scam.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, that's pretty much it, man.
4-4s is just a different way of saying
we have there's nothing else to really build except for the fact we can connect tokens and
nfts together um it's just a very um it's just a very dumb kind of idea where there's no really
build there's no one really building is just connecting two things
that already built you know it's not like nfts it has its own unique thing right and it's not like
tokens where it has its own unique thing you know it's got to be completely separate entity for it
to be unique 404 just comes in saying hey you know we're gonna connect these two you've done nothing
there except for create a scam the only way i would have ever thought about it working and this is going to be a really outlandish example
but this is the only thing i can think of right now for it is like if kanye had a 404 where you
could hold a bunch of his token right like obviously the whole kanye token was a scam but
like if kanye had a 404 where like his token you could obviously like hold by using the site or
whatever but also when he went on tour you could swap it for like an NFT, which is also the ticket,
you know, and then you get to keep either the NFT for going to that concert as like
a memory.
And it's got some cool art associated with it because he's easy and all that.
That's the only thing I could see it being like a beneficial like model is like for for
artists or people who like go on tour or like comedians
you know like the guy's funny so like his token pumps and people buy his token and then like you
can swap the token out to go to like to get a ticket to go to one of his shows on tour
like that's the only thing i could think of where it would work in terms of like the tech but
like you were just saying it doesn't work if you're trying to make money on it yeah you can't you can't make money off that if you do it you gotta be in and out quick
yeah like it's not like i would see it as a non-money making tech like you know like it
would just provide utility to the people who would want to you know have access to those things with
those people if that makes sense yeah exactly as for art if we're thinking just art
there's so many events around the world that go over art we have museums around the world
where hundreds and thousands of people will rush to to go and view art like
think about it right we have so much of these and we have art on the blockchain
which is pretty much the exact same thing we can have a museum of blockchain art eventually i want
one of these days we will have a museum of blockchain art where you will be able to go and
view digital art in the museum so i think you know I personally I think you
know these these penguins these animals they look they cringe they're not really
art in my eyes they're more of like a club you're joining a club and that's
about it whereas if we're thinking like the Fidensas and motion and all the
other pieces of art that have a uniqueness to them
you know these are the type of shit people want to see they're going to look at and they're going
to be like oh look you know this is the currency that you know this is the german currency this is
the british currency this is the dollar you know 30 years from now the currencies we're using on
our pfps they're not going to be the same you know they're going to be a lot different it's going to have someone else's face it's going to have
different designs to it and everyone's going to look back and say yo these are the digital
pieces of art that used money and it's historic it means something the artist behind it means
something you know there's history behind it so I like stuff that has a history I like stuff that's historic um that has meaning as well
and if a community is behind it and rocking with it and and you know having having it posted up
everywhere just you know to me me, that's beautiful.
It's very beautiful.
It's amazing.
And I really do see it happening.
So for me, holding motion and buying more motion
is just a no-brainer.
It just makes sense to me.
I don't see why anyone would want to sell.
It just makes no sense
because you're literally buying money
with money, so you're
Sell matter of fact all offers for point one and point two
I'm trying to increase my supply
So sell that shit to me literally is made out of collectible money from all over the goddamn world
Something that nobody in this room would be able to get their hands on outside of Columbo.
Yo, again, we're going to, in the future, people are going to look back at Bored Apes.
They're going to look back at Poggy Penguins.
They're going to look back at all these NFTs that were once made.
And they're going to laugh because it's a fucking animal.
But when they see stuff like this, they're going to this is actual art and that's that's amazing that's
that's something that i can see happening you know the saying like it stands the test of time
like isn't a thing for no reason there's a lot of things that don't stand the test of time but money definitely does yeah yeah no yeah no like
a cartoon bird i'm sorry no no hate to the moon birds but like that shit is like not that's just
like a trend like you know what i mean like it's a vibe that people are on because they're making
money um i doubt anybody truly relates to the bird
do you guys see what i just sent you by the way i don't know i just can't believe that's crazy bro
you bought he bought these nfts for two soul and now you're selling them for 0.5 so it's just like it actually doesn't even make sense it's actually genius if they sell it to me.
Genius.
Maybe it's genius if they sell it to you, but it's not genius to them.
It's actually really stupid, to be honest.
I never willingly lose money.
Let's put it that way. If I willingly lose money, ask me if I'm alright.
They might go to zeros.
They might go to zeros if I sell now I
won't lose I won't lose more money
Michael come on
minting some for two soul and selling 20 to me for two soul man I love it I mean
they did make money but in the opposite
direction right just negative not positive no my favorite are the ones that get mad and sell
i love that bro those guys are entertaining my dms my i love them bro i love them i've seen a lot
of entertaining stuff on the timeline this last week. Should we let Nito back up?
Hell yeah, we love Nito.
Yeah, I was about to say, we love Doug.
I was surprised he was so upset earlier.
I don't want to argue.
He actually might have a base take on this subject.
I agree.
Hey, I don't sell mine just so I can piss books off.
That's why books is dying for me to sell
So I'm gonna hold my shit to the end. I ain't dying for you to sell your books
I'm just kidding. I'm just I am dying for you. I love me
Check check out my beer ready look at with the orange hot bro ready
Ready you can't fuck with this shit ready boom
You can't fuck with this shit ready boom
That is fire it does match the color perfectly that's mr. Subutex right there
Yo in all seriousness though if you guys have a bunch that you want to set up point one like DM me like I'm
Ready
me no DM me bro DM me first and then book software if you have
You want me to have supply control or random people in the project?
Think about this guy like think about stupid. There is a guy called so cute in here
Oh, yeah, dude. I looked it's like comments yesterday and all of his comments are just flaming books like it's so funny bro who is it
what is it so pew and he just his if you just look at his replies it's just him flaming you
they're they're priceless i i don't know this shit oh it's so funny man he's at the bottom
of his face right now his name is so pew. Just click on his replies and it's just him flaming you all
day. I swear it's all he does
is just flames you all day.
I've never
been such a hater in my life.
Yo, his job is hating, bro.
Mama just blocked that bump.
He's like, he got
paid to hate you all day.
Like, it's not like he just like,
oh, maybe he'll like reply once a day. Like, bro's not like he does, like, oh, maybe he'll, like, reply once a day.
Like, bro.
No, it's every...
He's got his notice on, yo.
He will do...
Yeah, he's got his notice on for you.
Like, he actually has his notice on for you
just to comment and reply hate.
Oh, man.
He hates Rome, too, apparently.
Who?
He hates Rome, too.
Wait, who? Who? What hates Rome, too. Wait, who?
What a fucking retard.
It's actually so funny.
I love Rome, but him changing his
PFP to a dojo dog, I don't care if he's
recorded or not, that has to be the most
disrespectful thing ever, bro.
It's confusing.
I'm not saying anything else.
It's funny, it's funny, it's funny. It's so funny, bro. Confusing. I'm not saying anything else. It's funny it's funny it's funny it's so funny bro. I ain't trying to say anything else I just think that's just that's the way it is for
me like I would never do something like that in my life. Yeah I mean if he plays it smart
oh you know what I'm not gonna say I'm gonna let know what, I'm not going to say it
I'm going to let him cook
I just wanted to get it off my chest
There's no playing that smart
I mean, if it was me
I would have played it smart
Then came right back after
There ain't no playing that smart, my brother
At all, zero
Weird Nah, just want to get it off my chest There ain't no playing that smart, my brother. At all. Zero.
Weird.
Nah, just wanted to get off my chest because I saw it today and I was just like...
Even I felt
disrespected and it's like...
Some people want to be a boss really fucking bad
in life.
You'll have them everywhere you go, bro.
I'm going to tell everyone here.
They're not alpha, but they want to be alpha. They're not the tell everyone here they want to be they they're not alpha but they want to be alpha they're not the boss but they want to be the boss they get a job at a cash
register in shop right and they start telling the general manager and the owner what to do okay
and those people you come back in 20 years they they're the cash register at ShopRite.
Come back 40 years later, they're telling you they turned 65 in seven months and they're finally retiring.
And guess where they're at? They're still the cash register at ShopRite.
They tried to sue the owner.
They tried to fuck the owner over.
They tried to do everything bad to the owner. They tried to fuck the owner over They tried to do everything bad to the owner
They tried to own the company they couldn't do it. There's a lot of people like that in this world
Ain't nothing you could do about it
It is what it is
Yeah
I'm not gonna lie to you. I've been really reading this dude's replies the last like minute bro. I have
Bro, I'm not going to lie to you.
I've been reading this dude's replies for the last minute.
That's so bad.
Bro, send it to me.
I want to read them as well.
Oh, I got you, Doug.
They're so funny.
He's like a professional hater.
No, like professional.
A bum.
That's a bum.
That's a bum.
But books, it's not just you, bro.
It's literally everybody.
It's so funny.
That's a bum, bro.
The only one he actually said something positive about was me.
And he just agreed with what I said about MPL 404s being a scam.
He agreed.
Yeah, that's still negative, though.
Yeah, I know.
That's still him being negative.
He's like just...
There's some...
No, he lost his entire life savings on Pox.
It's clear. Or something, his entire life savings on pox. It's clear
Oh something man hundred bucks 200 bucks
But that's what I mean by his life savings or he got air he got a free pox egg
Got a free airdrop
And didn't sell it and locked it like a retard, but I hosted spaces on how much I was against
The staking at that time I was there by the way when
you said it I found out by him that there's still because he was like
commenting on a few people that were still showing pox there's still people
that I like can't wait for my egg to unlock like what like people actually believe like
there's so many of them like that like there's no way that people actually think
like that i just sent you one from one day ago retards there was a girl she was like
there's a good i don't know i think her name's Leah. And she was doing a video and she was like,
hey guys, can't wait for my egg to unlock and get rewarded for everything.
I'm like, bro, what?
Like, it's been a year, my dude.
That girl's definitely, she's a nice, that person's a nice person.
Could just be engagement farming or something.
Even still, even still, like, to even, like, remotely believe that.
And then, like, the people in her comments are like, yeah, can't wait for it to, like, you know, reveal the egg.
I can't even see how many rewards I got.
Even if she was an engagement farmer, people in her comments or someone is looking at that and actually believing that the egg is going to release them.
believe in like that egg is gonna really soon it's crazy i've just never seen somebody every single
It's crazy.
day come on to the same people's posts every single day and comment like the same exact thing
every single day without being a bot and he's clearly not a bot because like he's not even
copying and pasting more like the responses like he's retyping it all in like a different way no
he's like no he's just and they're quite long as well they're not like yeah they're quite long like yo so so when do i cash
in on my legendary i i still have one of those eggs like actually what do i do with it you actually
didn't sell your egg no bro i held it because it because it... Yo, he reached out to me.
He reached out to me.
He reached out to me and said,
Yo, what do I do?
Do I lock this?
I said, use your brain.
And he goes and locks it.
Bro, I don't know, bro.
Like, bro, I don't even know what to say to the guy.
It sounds like something I do.
I responded with, use your brain.
Like, bro, guys, two weeks. I hosted spaces for two weeks on why I was against staking to say to the guy it sounds like something i do i responded with use your brain like hey bro guys
two weeks i hosted spaces for two weeks on why i was against staking and how i never staked and
benefited that would have been me in my life you know what it was i would have listened to you
been like that that whole time and i would have texted you you would have been like said something
like that and i would have been like use your brain i would have said to you got books you know what it was i must lock you know what it was on on tg on tg shiba was in my ears he was like
yo streets we got you by december bro don't worry yo it's gonna be good fam it's gonna be good this
and that bro he got in my eyes like yo i gotta tell you something right right there right there
it's it possibly could have been good brother It possibly could have been good, brother.
It possibly could have been good.
Did you see any wallets say Bark, Shibo, or Bookselling?
Like, it's...
The people that were selling, unfortunately, were...
People in the fucking community, so...
I don't know, man.
It's like, there's really no one to blame but yourself in these situations.
Yo, you know what?
You know what, Bugs?
Three of my wallets were called out on Spaces.
Like, they got called out for trading his chart.
Yo, I'm sorry, bro.
You nuked your own chart.
You're allowed to do whatever you want.
So, what's it called? Like like bark was calling out my wallets because i was taking profits on so many
like i don't know who was who was pumping it but i was taking profits and then i was buying back in
taking profits buying back in and they were mad bro they were they called out my wallets on spaces
and i had to dm bark because I thought, yo, he would link it
back to my main.
And I told him, they're mine.
Yo, look, I'll tell you straight.
This is how it works, right?
I'll tell you, let me go outside quickly.
It's the latest fuck
and I'm, like, shouting.
Right, let me tell you how it is.
So, basically, these guys,
I remember when DeFi Apes came around, right?
These guys are going to shill it in a way
where they're going to like,
they're going to make you feel like you don't sell.
But deep down you sell.
Like, that's the whole point.
Every project.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, obviously they're not gonna say out loud
bow like like are you yeah that's always the case they're never gonna tell you to make brother but
when you're a beginner in the space that's why you're tuning into spaces that's why you're
showing up every day you're waiting for sell or buy yeah straight up all the people that you see
the majority of people that you see sitting there every single day are waiting for the founders to say sell or someone to say this is the top
sell even for bitcoin even for ease for everything like if you are here for that fam
it's never going to happen i've been in this space for 10 years i've been a founder i've been a
fucking marketer i've been a customer i've been all of it bro i've been all this space for 10 years. I've been a founder. I've been a fucking marketer. I've been a customer.
I've been all of it, bro.
I've been in all the fucking shoes you could imagine.
And not one time did someone tell me, sell books.
Now's the time and tell everyone at once.
Why?
Because that's going to fuck everything up worse than ever.
This is leverage trading.
And we've gone to a point where this is why we leverage trade because that's different
Yeah, we could actually do that because we're all on the same side
but when it comes to
When it comes to this game like a lot of people don't don't seem to understand it, bro
They're skeptical from the beginning. They never really like you. It's like fake love. It's so weird
Yeah Never really like you. It's like fake love. It's so weird. Yeah.
If it's one thing,
is if you're getting a free NFT
and it's worth $2,000, $3,000, $5,000, $6,000, $10,000.
You gotta know when to sell.
Yeah.
You gotta know.
Bro, if I have a bunch of NFTs in a project
and any of them are $5,000 to $10,000,
I'm fucking selling one or two of them.
There's no question about it.
It's a goddamn picture.
I floored all of my dogs, bro.
All of them.
I didn't look back.
I didn't give a shit.
I did see today that those are actually pretty expensive now.
Look, bro.
How much are they?
They're inflated, yo. How much are they? I assume they own a bunch of them. How much are they they inflated?
Assume they own a bunch of them
Yeah, I think the floors like five or six K
But there were some that just like it was a group of a few that just sold for over ten
Yeah, what is what is like how much doge is it?
20,000 I think yeah
20,000 doge when when street debt sold it was pretty much the
same shit it was like 16 or 18 000 doge was doge was worth more probably yeah doge was worth more
back then yeah yeah i think i sold mine for like 3k or something i don't know yeah what's doge at What's Doja right now? 27 cents 26 cents
It's going up actually right now
It was worth the same shit
At one point it was like 30 something right?
Street debt
I don't remember
I don't think it was worth more though
That's that
But you always take your money
Always take your profit
Considering like people Didn't a lot of people but yeah you always take your money always take your profit considering like
people didn't a lot of people I was not I was around for dojo no dogs but I
wasn't around but taking your profit like a lot of people got like dojo no
dogs for free right yeah to two each like bro I'd sell one and just hold the
water one like it's crazy bro it's crazy because I've never been a part of a free mint that's done that ever.
There's no chance that I would have taken part in that and not at least sold one.
I literally can't even stop it.
Bro, you even had an opportunity to buy at the time.
When they were low as hell, probably.
Yeah, you could have bought 100 of them for 10 grand.
It's crazy for 100
bucks each yeah i don't even know what to say yeah what's the liquidity like for them though like
is it possible for me to like sell 10 at once no no no no oh yeah but you list it right now for
floor you might wait a week for that to sell oh it's like that. And then you'll see a bunch selling and that's just, you know.
Let them recycle.
You know what that is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everything but your selling because it's taking money out of the right pocket and putting it into the left.
Yeah, no, because I always see like sales they do for like 25k.
I'm like, who is buying this one for 25k?
Like, no one is buying that one for 25k.
Correct.
And Dogino Dogs are the same price now that they were when I was last there.
They're sub 4k.
They weren't 6k.
They were never 6k.
I don't know where you guys got that number from.
Yo, in fact, in fact, it, you know, you know what, never mind.
In fact, it went down a lot after books went, you know.
I think that, should read that salt stop
i i did i think i did i did it's at 13 800 doge which is 3600 on doggy market
okay it was at 18 000 doge or 20 000 doge yeah that's crazy
yeah pick my name
either way either way it doesn't even matter about like any project or whatever free mint if it ever
went up to that dollar value if you don't sell you got straight up mental problems i don't know
what to tell you bro but it's still it was a free mint that definitely did better than a lot of other
free mints because of supply controls why control is the most important shit when only five six
hundred people when only five six hundred people are holders and you own ninety four hundred ninety
six hundred or ninety five hundred you can control that shit everybody hurry up and sell your goddamn motion please
yeah
yo that's so many ways
i don't understand like uh voluntary losses
and anyone that bitches about anything, bro,
like you're a retard,
I can go pull up a spaces recording.
I'm going to repeat just like the space.
Ready?
I could mint out the rest of this collection
with Columbo right now,
but we're not going to go and spend all that money.
We want supply control for the low.
We're going to wait for the price to dip
so we can grab as much as possible.
With as little money as possible.
So we can send that bitch later.
Does anyone think that sounds familiar?
And Boks.
You know what me and the motion whales are doing right now?
What?
We're doing exactly that bro.
Before you and Columbo get on board.
I'm front running you guys.
I can't wait to front run you my brother nah nah nah nah nah bro we're gonna do it so that's not bullish for the project
to be honest so okay okay are you gonna lock those up oh oh yeah they're not or do i wait
to sweep for you to get fucking wanna sell sell. Bro, they're never going to see... Think about how stupid what you just said is.
They're never going to see the light of day again, bro.
They're going to stay in that wallet forever.
Until we have too much demand.
Okay, then I'll be like, okay, let's give some away.
Let's raffle some.
Let's do a bunch of shit.
And yeah, that's about it.
You got about 20 grand.
Me and Colombo got about a milli, my brother.
Over a milli.
So good luck, my brother.
Hey, man, if we can get more whales here, yo, DM me.
We're going to raise a shit ton of salt.
Yo, let's cook.
Let's cook.
Believe in streets.
Listen, I got a plan, bro.
I got a plan.
I got a plan.
Go about motion, baby.
Yo, I'm about to send you some meat and books.
I guess I'll send you two streets because you're talking my fault.
Tell me this doesn't perfectly describe the current
state of creator coins.
Also,
I was going to say something.
Did you see the message I just sent you?
3% what? Of the the supply oh the coin oh shit um it's like of course motherfuckers are entertaining when you own three percent you know yeah yeah i think that's the whole
phase we're going through now
is like all the big people talking about it
are obviously buying them so they're just
you know shilling their bags
that's me
that's me with bag work
there you go
bag work are the only
people that have any sort of faith in
everyone else is gonna be
if it does work out replaced by new people that no one knows.
Yeah.
I don't think the streaming shit on PumpOn is going to last.
I think the money that they earn is not going to last, last by do think the streaming stuff will go very far in crypto
Don't think abstracts a solution if that's what you're implying
No abstract no I'm saying what pump fun like
Brought in like connected
streaming into crypto. I think
What happened with abstract that will work by garbage and nobody uses it
They raised a fuck ton of money fluffed it up hyped it up raised a fuck ton of money from vcs and they do shit they had a party they had a party in miami which i was there with faro and
all these guys they were promoting the fuck out of abstract and and that's about it man nothing
really special monad well and it's not even, like, about, like, promoting.
Like, they have stuff on there, and I don't know if anybody's ever checked it out.
It's, like, and they claim that it's going to be, like, the normie on-border or whatever they claimed it was going to be.
That shit is, like, the most convoluted nonsense that's slow that I've used in a long time.
Because I had to try it. I can't get my opinion on something the normie onboarder shit is smart because look at what it is it's when i was new
in the space what accounts did i go straight to those accounts i was baited into going straight
to them and losing my money no for sure but if you go to use abstract as a normie you're gonna
get lost you're gonna get confused or you're gonna yeah send your money to the wrong place and lose it forever and then you're never gonna come back
but hear me out what they're doing that's what they're doing they're attracting all the new
people all the new money in the space and just raping them yeah and raping them correct that's
what they do yeah i mean that's clear that was my first uh thought when i got on the website i'm
like wow i could use this and maybe like farm it, you know, because it's like
Think about how many people come towards us when they've had it.
Like they're down to their last.
Is it because of that?
Every single time.
Yeah, I mean, I tend to try everything before I give my opinion on it.
And like I was just saying, like I played some of the games and stuff on there.
And like, yeah, if they are dropping a token, if that's how you farm the token airdrop or whatever, like, that's all well and good, and we could all do that, like, because we're, you know, relatively crypto-native and know how to operate the site, whatever.
If an onboard, like, a newbie got on that as the first thing that they went to go use, I'm telling you right now, they're never coming back.
Yeah, I agree.
I wouldn't.
I'd be like,
what the fuck is this?
This doesn't make anything easier
and this isn't fun.
Once again,
I think Pump Fun
got just really lucky.
I think it's the simplicity
aspect of it.
Yeah, but Bags
were doing something as well.
I think it's all hype.
I think PumpFun was at its peak
end of last year
and early this year.
I don't believe Pump's at a peak right now.
And I think that Alon and his team
are botting their favorite
streamers and people
that they hire to make it look like they have
a lot of people to
bait more people in.
There's no one in this fucking space, fam.
It's fucking dead.
It's actually dead.
You could tell by every meme coin's liquidity.
If all these viewers were really there, where's all the volume and liquidity?
Where is it?
Because I don't fucking see it, fam.
Unless I'm fucking blind and stupid.
It's boring.
It's not fun.
Because everyone's trying to take something from each other.
Yeah, man.
Honestly, I think...
I think as long as Pump Fun is around,
Seoul will be up.
If Pump Fun tomorrow stops working if pump on
stops building some kind of some shit so it's gonna drop eventually because
I'll be honest if you look at a chart right and you match it up with the
streaming stuff that they launched so pumped because maybe mostly because of
the streaming stuff that's how i see it if you match
up the timeline so um even even when pump fan first got the super hype um we saw so go to like 300
i don't know i don't know how long this pump fun shit is gonna last no one knows but i'm pretty
tired of it and i'm sure everyone else says we want we need something better bro we need something
that's gonna cook bring back hype bring back speculation because that's what really drove
speculation because that's what really drove this market speculation was the biggest driving
one of the biggest driving factor of this space everyone was thinking big it wouldn't turn out
to be big but that's what got prices to go up you know when i first came into the space um
i did i came for meme coins okay i bought safe moon pre-sale for the first time and i
made a shit ton of money off that but it wasn't the coin itself that actually brought me it was
the fact that it had stuff to offer you know did everybody make money on speculation like oh we're
gonna start this we're gonna do that we're gonna do that and that's what really you know stuck with me so speculation is is a big part of crypto if we
lose that then we lose um we lose one massive culture i think in you know in all of this so
i agree
no i agree did everybody make money on SafeMoon, by the way?
No, there's...
I still have DMs from accounts long, long, long time ago.
And a bunch of them didn't make money.
But a bunch of people did make money.
There's a bunch that didn't.
There's a bunch that did.
Okay?
I feel like everybody who got in on the pre-sale made money and then everybody who
like bought when it came out lost in bro in 21 any pre-sale you bought you would make money if it
wasn't a honeypot if it wasn't a rug pull you would have but that's what i mean though like
wasn't just the pre like i feel like people didn't understand pre-sales back then so like when you
bought into a pre-sale like everybody who didn't was the ones getting dumped on
that was me that was me that was me dumping um yeah yeah yeah i would buy and i get i get what you're saying and so that's just my first thought is that like people didn't understand how it worked
so like they didn't get in on the pre-sale but they still wanted to participate so they went to
they went to go buy like after the pre-sale and everybody in the pre-sale
go buy like after the pre-sale and everybody in the pre-sale just dumped on their head
just dumped on their head yeah yeah that's pretty much it yeah those private
sales those pre-sales yeah and it was like ICOs but like privately yeah the
private ones were the best ones you know it was a bit more risk but because
nobody knew that there was insiders exactly but if you go in early then and it turns out to be something great you made an instant 100 to 1000x 1000x used to be a thing
back in the days by the way because i was so easy to tap into i would have made so much goddamn money
if i was in this space back then fucking yeah but now stories now you're lucky you're in fact you're like well i wouldn't you're super lucky to get i was here
back then huh i said i probably wouldn't be here right now if i was here back then i'm not gonna
lie to y'all i would have took so advantage of that it would have been crazy like oh god
i'm still around from back then that was like when i had like a like a solid amount of money
bankrolled too so like i would have really like just went all in on pre-sales especially if i if i found out that
nobody understood like how it worked yeah we need something else and we need something else
that people don't understand sorry cat but i hate when people say that like if i could go back and
back in the future no but i'm not saying it like that
i'm saying like i understand how pre-sales worked but i like never was around during the time and i
was just asking like do people not understand how they worked yeah but if i could go back in the
future i would not be caring about pre-sales i would literally be a trillion air i would be a
trillion oh yeah i mean that but that's my though. I'm not doing what you're saying.
I'm saying that, like, from an objective standpoint, I wasn't involved.
I wasn't here back then.
Right.
So, like, it's not a would have, could have, should have situation.
And I'm like, I only found out when I came into this space that, like, a majority of
things like SafeMoon and all that had pre-sales.
And, like, my first thought was
like, why would anybody even
buy on the open market?
How did any of those things even succeed then?
Oh wait, it's because
there was actually people who knew nothing about this
space coming at a really rapid rate
and the people who bought in the pre-sales
just dumped on all the newbies.
Which is what everybody did
with stock options
when that shit got popular
on Robinhood.
If I could go back in time
to 2024.
Yeah, if that was the case,
I would have bought Bitcoin
back in 2016.
I would have bought with it 10K market cap.
Nah.
Bro, like I said, I wouldn't have bought a single meme coin in my entire life
if I could have done the woulda shoulda coulda talk.
You just have to buy Bitcoin.
That's it.
You wouldn't even be contemplating buying a meme coin if you bought Bitcoin
back in like 2015
or 2016, 2017
and it's actually sized in.
Yeah, but
if you had no money,
I'd say
if you had no money in 2015, 2016,
you wouldn't have made a lot, right?
I can only speak for myself.
Yeah.
Whereas,
2015,
2016,
bro,
I was playing Black Ops 3
with the boys.
That's what I was going to say,
like,
I was 15,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
so it's like,
I didn't have
$100,000 at the age of 15. You wouldn't even have needed $100,000. I did't have 100,000 dollars at the age of 15
You wouldn't even have needed 100,000
I did
You wouldn't even have needed 100,000
You would have needed like 10 bands
To like actually make something
I had 100,000 when I was 16
So if I could do anyone else
You're a legend streets
You should write books about you kids
What I'm saying is I was actually playing Black Ops in Modern Warfare 2.
Modern Warfare 2 was like 2007, 2008, me.
Bro, Modern Warfare is the best.
I don't care what anyone says.
That was 2007.
Modern Warfare 2 is the best.
It was a banger.
Oh, my God, bro.
Yeah, but you said that like you were playing Modern Warfare 2 instead of buying Bitcoin.
Bitcoin wasn't even invented yet.
Bro, I was playing Club penguin when bitcoin came out my guy
you were playing farmville on facebook me no club penguin bro do you know what that
shit is you're right who i was playing farmville like ben weevil
mushy monsters bro that's some uk ass if i've ever heard it
yeah it is monsters
bro i still remember that all the best ones that adventure quest adventure quest bro the mushy
monsters damn i would kill to be a kid again.
Bro, what?
Nah, I would, bro.
I would too. What are you talking about? That wasn't like a what? I can't believe that you're saying that.
That was like a fucking... I think everybody would, right?
Yo, you know when the PS4 came out?
Or just before it?
Fuck PlayStation, bro.
That's the first time i heard about bitcoin
i was young young little boy and i heard about bitcoin back then it was like 3 000 or something
but no one listens to a kid so um no one made money off it obviously but i had one cousin who had a bunch of bnb oh so finance coin
bnb a bunch it will be worth millions today he had a bunch of bitcoin cash a bunch of
bitcoin itself he had it on a stick or some kind of hard drive okay and he was talking about how
he lost that and and all the uncles they were pissed at him because they're like,
oh, why didn't you hold on to that shit?
And all that.
So that's when I first heard about it.
And then two years later, I got into crypto myself.
This shit that you hear as a kid like you gotta remember that stuff you know
oh the first time i heard about bitcoin my buddy was like trying to sell me on it like oh like it
was crazy how long ago it was now thinking back like he was trying to sell me on it like to play
some type of game like on the computer where you had to like buy bitcoin
i forget exactly what the game was even called but like he tried to like get me to play this game with him and i just like totally was like that dude i got way too much going on with like
football and you know like chicks like and all like just you know literally i'm pretty sure it
was like right when i started college you know so like i was just like there's i don't have time for
this bro and like that was probably the dumbest thing i've ever heard i mean i've ever done in
my entire life but yeah you never know until it's uh too late right hindsight's always 2020
at least mine is i got perfect hindsight it. It's like, I did something wrong, boom, I see what happened immediately.
Like, I fucking, I'm a dumbass.
I did this wrong.
Well, what are you up to, Kura?
Hanging out, meet.
Happy Monday, buddy.
How you doing?
I'm doing good, man. What are you up to?
Oh, yeah.
We out here.
He's out here, man. It's almost fall. Fall weather's approaching.
Living the dream, bro.
You still doing your spaces?
Yeah, I'm about to actually pop it open.
Oh, nice. Well, we will rotate over to you.
Books and streets, do you guys know about eat like how eth works like uh like yeah okay cool so very well what's it mean when they're
uh well so i can kind of like make my assumptions based on it um but in on validatorq.com right now
apparently the eth staking exit queue is going parabolic right now.
Big deal.
So that doesn't mean anything?
Or it does?
No, that's a big fucking deal, bro.
If it's going parabolic.
Yeah, September 7th, it jumped to $3,000K on the chart, which is insane.
Big fucking deal, bro.
Big fucking deal, bro.
That's insane.
That's insane. $3,000K is really high.
$3,000 is really high.
Remember what I told you guys?
Staking these low numbers.
$1,500, $1,700 ETH, $1,800 ETH.
Because at $4,000, $5,000, $7,500 ETH, you're going to have a fuck ton of rewards.
I just sent it to you guys.
But people don't listen.
what do they do they stake now they stake when it's high and once this shit hits a crazy a crazy
What do they do?
They stake now.
They stake when it's high.
number which people are predicting based off numbers like this they get uses it hasn't been
this high since eth came out i'm looking at the chart right now yep and well it didn't when when
eth came out it was different yeah because there's proof of work, right? Yeah.
So you were right about, by the way,
the entries for the ETH validator queue jumping as well.
So it jumped, and then almost immediately afterwards,
the queue for exiting went like insanely straight up parabolic.
Yeah.
So there's something to keep an eye on for ETH.
Very bullish.
Very, very bullish, bro.
Very fucking bullish.
So, during the last bull,
we had a time where you were able to unlock
your stake money,
which really sucked.
And we saw a bunch of fucking ETHs locked, staked ETHs unlock on Coinbase, and that really sucked and we saw a bunch of fucking ETH locked staked ETH
unlock on coinbase and that really sucked and now we're seeing this happen
which is pretty damn cool okay you got to remember something guys the ETH is
better than Bitcoin as a coin right not price-wise obviously and with staking imagine how much these etfs can
make you know not only are you doing the etf stuff but on top of it you're able to stake
and earn rewards so think about who's going to be doing the staking
imagine you have as an etf so much eth right so much that you took in as an etf so much fucking eth right so much eth that you took in as an etf
and you can stake it well game over game over ggs eth is gonna go fucking parabolic
and it's beautiful that you know the way we have it set up with Street Debt and Convicted Trader is we don't just focus on Sol.
We don't just focus on Bitcoin.
We're focused on all three, Bitcoin, ETH, and Sol, and alts, and alts.
We're about to be in great shape as a fucking community if we're patient, if we're listening, paying attention, and if we're increasing our fucking bankroll.
paying attention and if we're increasing our fucking bankroll if you were again if you were
doing a hundred dollars longs and a hundred dollars shorts nine months ago and you're still
doing a hundred dollar long and shorts now that's not good nine months ago till now if you started
off with a hundred you should be at at least a thousand and that's just going up by a hundred
dollars a month which is super super easy with your bankroll management
yeah if you've made if you made a shit ton of money which you should have um then you should
obviously be increasing it um if you do the maths two percent every single day i mentioned this many
times before um even in the vcs i mentioned if you get 2% overall on every single trade
you would make 6 figures very easily
you can't do it if you're using
the same 100 every single
trade, you have to increase it
after every successful trade
so if you had 100
you made 120
and you increase it instead of using 100 obviously this is
like not your entire balance but you know what i mean right so the margin so if you're using 100
margin now using 120 then 140 and you're increasing it ever so slightly until you reach
the desired you know account balance so if you're still using 100 every
single trade then that's something not going right because eventually one trade will not go
well for you and that could set you back like five or six trades and then you have to hit the next trade
To climb back up so you have to increase it while also, you know
Building their account balance you build the account balance increase it and
Just not go over the limit too much, you know, so if you have a hundred
Let's say you start with a hundred you 120 you put you put aside a bit of that and
then you start from like 110 and you put aside a bit of that and you 120 put aside a bit just keep
building it up and up and up and up and up and your margin will also increase and then you also
start thinking when you get to a higher balance you start thinking okay now leverage do i reduce
my leverage do i increase my leverage when you have a higher balance, you start thinking, okay, now leverage, do I reduce my
leverage? Do I increase my leverage? When you have a higher account balance, you start thinking,
okay, now I can use higher leverage as well, like 100x while using a smaller margin.
And if you decide, okay, I'm going to use a higher, a lower leverage, but I want to increase
my margin. It's the same exact shit why because
you have more money to play with now so you can you essentially dictate how much leverage you
want to play now whereas when you're first starting out the high leverage is kind of essential for you
to um you know push your account balance to the level where you can decide the leverage to whatever right so for me as an example if i want to play with
ten thousand dollars i don't i have ten thousand dollars i can put on a one x leverage or i can
use a thousand dollars and put on a 10x leverage or i can use a hundred dollars and put in a hundred x leverage if i lose that 100 that
won't put a dent in my in my account balance because it's a very small proportion compared to
my total account so i have 10 000 now i have 9 900 whereas if i use a thousand dollars on on a 10x
is the same shit like i can put my stop loss at a hundred stop loss and I'll still
also lose $9900 but if I put a thousand on a hundred x I could lose a thousand that'll put it
then so I gave a whole lesson on this so like it's very it's a very interesting topic and I think
everyone should be looking at increasing if you're up if you're the same
place where you first started then you should start thinking about potentially taking on higher
probable trades at higher leverages to climb up and then after that now i'm not saying you go in
every single trade you go high leverage you go in every single trade, you go high leverage,
you go in on the ones that are more likely to hit,
so the ones that are like very obvious and clear,
that's the ones that are going to,
that's the one that's going to get you to the level you need to be at,
and then you can start taking all these other plays as well,
so that's how I will do it,
that's how I will do it that's how i will do it
sounds good
sounds like you're a professional yeah i know is everyone i probably did this shit for years
very like a long time everyone should subscribe to not subscribe pay streets is it five so five so five so you know you're not even paying you're
not even paying me like you're you're paying okay for you know all the all the shit that we're doing
and this called me coming up on vc you know getting you guys all the information that's needed
the ta all of that stuff man you're
you're paying for that you'll pay also when you pay for shit when you pay for shit like
that gets you that's like a a factor that kind of pushes you to actually learn it
whereas if this shit was actually free i doubt we would have five members in that group because
people appreciate things that have value rather than things that have no value so if you put a
price tag on something it has a value now well and people value their money because they spent
time earning it exactly exactly when you value your money like okay i'm gonna work hard to actually learn this yeah you should value your money like expensing time you know the more money you have
the more time you save you know and the more money you spend to save time the better it is for you to
do more money more problems i'm back in court baby mama trying to stick me with that child support
i hate that bitch she makes me sick that's what I get for thinking with my dick.
Yeah, I sent you that, by the way, books.
Earlier today on X. What you just sent me?
That shit's crazy, yo.
Hey, that's like me and you can get our shit revoked?
Or if you're like a new US citizen or someone that.
No, yeah.
There's no way.
There's no way.
It's new.
It's newer.
And it's if your parents aren't from here.
Also, you know, books, you you know the guys that
we you paid for
like we kind of we covered their
like five soul stuff
right yeah yeah yeah
half of them
bro they they don't
care like some of them
that is very confusing to me they like
complain that like streets isn't making calls daily.
he's going to be,
but either way,
but either way,
it's like,
just,
I think what he's saying is that like,
just by saying that or just making comment,
it doesn't seem like it's.
what I'm saying,
Cap,
what I'm saying is the people who we let in,
like we pay for like books,
pay for like to,
like after the meme coin
stuff we got them access to the leverage group for free right we covered it because some fucked
up shit situation happened but we let them in for free books covered their five soul and shit
what happened is that they weren't appreciating it as much so if they paid for the five so if they paid the facts
They would appreciate they would learn, you know, so they wouldn't bro
People that are that want calls every two seconds or meme point
Yeah, they got
Yo, bro on some real shit. Yo, I don't give a fuck
Like people want to learn to trade are gonna subscribe to
you and convicted and it's not like they're gonna learn overnight and be an expert leverage trader
and you're not gonna hold their hand you know like if you pay people three months like i'm
telling you right now it took people three months in the group right now to catch up to the level
where i'm pretty much at okay and they did hold their hand and bro I'm not yeah I did I'm not even a trader had a one-on-one with each and every person yeah
he did you're right I still have done I've yet to do that had a hundred VCs sex a ton
it's funny he actually has a straight-up third-party education course that you can take on the basics of trading terminology
and you know like change of structure break of structure all this other uh if you don't
understand that which is like very helpful for people who are just looking at charts for the
first time for example it gave you a rundown of everything you needed everything very clear and concise like if you
if you wanted to look into it by yourself at some time you could and it was completely free
so um it was the best it was the best information out there i had the best information recorded
videos all of that um but yeah look you can't as as lever traders right as lever traders we
we have a reputation right we have a reputation that we have to carry always and that's to
make more money than we're losing we have to make more money than we're losing
that's the reputation if you see a trader that's make more money than we're losing that's the reputation if you see a
trader that's losing more money than they're making that's not a good trade at all i think
that's a trader that's in the early stages of learning when you're losing more than you're
making initially by yourself that's the early stages of a learning trader when you're making
money more than you're losing it that's the stage
where you're a trader who's been through the struggles and shit and knows how to actually
trade now i've been through those struggles and i'm i'm telling you that this leverage stuff is
not like meme points it's not you cannot expect every second of every day to have someone to
you know spoon feed you you you can't like this is not how leverage works leverage works when
the chart presents itself an opportunity and you take that opportunity you can't force
the chart to do what you want it to do okay it's not like meme coins where you buy't force the chart to do what you want it to do.
Okay.
It's not like meme coins where you buy and pump the chart and you take profits and you know,
you're out.
This is different.
This is very different.
Okay.
So if you come in with a mentality that,
okay,
I'm going to,
you know,
leverage every single day,
every,
every hour of each day but then
you're gambling because i don't know what's going to happen in an hour um i no one knows what's
going to happen in the next minute hour no one knows especially if the market we do know
yeah but what we do know is that in a couple days this could happen or that could happen and we can prepare for it with
a long or a short that's what we could do okay now there are certain tools that you could use to
tell you where price could be heading in the next hour you could do very small local time frame
ideas you can draw them up and say look price could go here or price
could go there if we you know at certain levels right you could do that also but will it work
always no it won't always work that's why you have a stop loss and if you can you know if you're hitting your stop loss three times but on your fourth one or
fifth one you hit a win and that it should cover your stop loss losses and it should also make you
money if it's not then that small local time frame you know um trades are probably not the best
way to leverage it now i've learned this the hard way and i'm
telling you that the best trades are the ones where you are patient and you're waiting for it
to present itself those are the best ones rather than chasing the quick to quick ones right the
quick ones are very stressful very risky they're far worse than meme coins
especially with leverage because leverage multiplies that risk and you're betting on the
fact that price could go up or down very quickly so again it's up to you it's up to you how you
you know what you prefer um This is my way of doing.
Convicted has a very amazing way of doing his trades.
So if it's working, then it's working.
I have my own ways.
Every trade is different in this space.
There's amazing traders out there.
Very few amazing traders out there
and they have a different way of doing things.
So you just have to find the one
that fits you well the most but in my in my opinion i think you should learn from more than
one trader so me and convicted learn the both but learn both styles it will take you very far
yeah learn both ways motherfuckers
stop being a cheapskate
you're gonna make your money back either way
times 10 times 20 times 50
so yeah
yeah subscribe to
fucking not subscribe
yeah subscribe to books
then pay the 5 soul and 4 soul
to streets and convicted Well, yeah, subscribe to books. Then pay the five sold and four sold to Street Sound to convicted.
Then get your money up.
Get your money up.
That's what it's all about.
This community making money.
Getting that motherfucking knowledge.
Wait, wait.
Before you subscribe to books, DM books saying Street Sound News so i can get a 25k if anybody says that you came to books and
it wasn't because of cap they're just lying through their teeth no say because of shoes i
get the 25k because feed motion yeah they'll all know it's capped you know what i mean they'll
just know that that's a lie because you know cap didn them. Well, if you subscribe to books and you say it wasn't me, you're gay.
So, if you want that one resting on your soul for the rest of your life, say it was me.
That's a good point.
I'm not sure when
I thought Kuro was opening his space right now
but it's a good point because
if anyone that doesn't know
let me see if I can
pin it up just give me one second
no way Meep you know those videos on YouTube
that like go super viral
of the guy who puts the fucking GoPro
camera on his fucking cat
and the cat runs around the neighborhood and interacts with all the other cats and shit.
We beat them all up.
It's a pump fun stream now, bro.
No way.
Bro, the guy's made 300 soul already.
Oh my god.
They're the best ones.
Dude, if it's just a stream of the cat POV 24-7 that shit's gonna go stupid viral
The cat fucks people up
Bro it's like the boss of the neighborhood
Like no bullshit
I don't know if it's the same guy
Nah probably not
It's probably just some guy who took the idea
And threw it on pump fun
Now it's fucking hitting
That's crazy, though.
Wow.
That is crazy.
I used to watch those videos because I fucked with that cat.
Like, I literally fucking subscribed to that guy, just the cat.
Yeah, I love them videos.
If you don't know what's going on right now,
Books is running a subscriber giveaway contest.
25,000.
I think it can be 50, 000 if the more people that do
it um so running a subscriber contest for a full three months and then november the 15th
uh so every person must get 15 people minimum to subscribe to my account to qualify and you'll have
you will be chosen for a piece of the 25k it can be 50k I'm gonna talk more
about after it was a lot less in the past example if you get five people know
if five of you get 15 people to subscribe to books. You get a
split of 25k if it's 25 of you you get split of 1k each. So
that's 25k. If 100 of you do it though, he will double the
giveaway to 50k. And that's between now and the November the
15th. You must DM proof with all referrals on an Excel spreadsheet.
Proof is a DM stating that before the date of the subscription that they did due to you with their handle on the X.
If anyone subs during the three month period or does not review, they are
illegible. They aren't illegible.
So make sure they keep subscribing.
He said he might be up in the stakes
with some
digital pieces of motion.
Get involved.
Let's get these.
I think it'd be good to get the subs back pumping and we can have fucking cool ass spaces again it's like it is like it's it's pretty weird
like going to like a book space or like uh or just a space with books in it and it's like
fucking 100 people joining or like 80 people joining it's like bro where the fuck is everyone gone motherfuckers bro i think the space is more
divided than it's ever been for no reason yeah yeah it's true so we need to get back them spaces
back when like when books was doing 2 000 people spaces 3, 3,000 people spaces. That shit was popping.
That's when books actually
had 2,000, 3,000 subscribers.
That's when we'll be talking about
meme coins, G, straight up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, facts.
I'll be in the trenches.
When there's 3,000 people,
I'll be in the trenches.
I'll do a fucking pump fun stream.
Like that,
why am I doing it now?
Pump to a million,
two million in five minutes.
It's gonna dump. Everyone's gonna blame me and talk shit about me.
Bro, we lost a lot of fucking people with Poge and Cope, man.
Yeah, I agree. I think so, too.
A lot, bro. I've seen it happen.
I don't even want to do that shit, bro.
To be honest, I didn't think that was a horrible idea i think it was just bad timing
bro awful timing it's it's like and you need more money bro yo bro you want you want a point
in the fucking work straight up i'm gonna give you the sauce right now i'm gonna tell y'all exactly
what you need to do you want a coin to work you need that to go you need to do you want a coin to work you need that bitch to go you need to bundle it to over a
million fucking market cap the second people can get in at these low ass amounts what happens
they now fuck your fucking project up every single time and the people that are telling you no give
us it at 10k they want to rape you and not only do they want to rape you when the price goes down
they disappear they don't want to help you when people are fighting you they don't defend you or nothing
bro it is what it is am i wrong no no no you're right you're right bro and i think that like you
know that would have worked a lot better maybe when all like meme coins or pump fun tokens were
first popping off you know and
everybody would have felt way more on board and it wouldn't have gone the way that it did but i
think it was just you know at a low point and you and alex were trying to you know give people a win
or fucking you know get something to go you know and uh you know nobody can be grateful for anything
these days they always gotta you know harp on the negatives instead of, like,
what the intentions were.
Yep.
Never good.
Never good.
On a much lighter note, I'm getting Thai food tonight.
Oh, and just so you guys know, the money from Pojan Cope is probably going to
be used for motion in the future. Just so you all know, like, from Poge and Cope is probably going to be used for motion in the future.
Just so you all know, like the locked up money eventually is going to be used for motion also.
So everyone has clarity.
I've said that a million times.
I'm going to say it a hundred more times in case I'm not on a space one day and someone says, what about that?
You know, like there ain't none anyone could say that's fucking wait what fucking blow us what remember like the initial bundle the 85 soul per token
that got locked and the supply that got locked and all that oh shit that it's a time it's a time
constrained block so they can't like they could yeah so that money's still there. Oh, shit.
That's also for emotion.
And to be honest, the soul price went up a lot.
So it's worth a lot more.
By the way, guys.
That'd be nice.
That would be nice.
I'm going to go to Cap Because I'm fucking tired of shit
Appreciate everyone coming
I'll probably do another one
Next week or something
Yeah
Keep safe dog
Yeah
Peace everyone
