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Art + Marketing: Meet #artist @creatressart & #Founder @nadya_rousseau
Recorded: May 23, 2023 Duration: 1:03:48Space Recording
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Hi, everybody.
Yes.
Create is in the house.
Awesome.
Everybody's getting in.
Do me a favor.
Tell everybody you're here.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited.
Thanks, Hidden Ones, for being here.
Screenwriter Dave, always.
Daddy G is in the house.
Hi, Bill Poole.
Yes, we have a lot of our friends here from the entertainment family.
And we're going to see some new faces.
And we're going to see some new faces.
And we're going to see some new faces.
So, or avatars, faces.
Same, same.
Yeah.
Excited.
Thanks for all the love, Hidden Ones.
I'm not sure who's behind there today, but thank you for being here.
Ah, Cardboard is in the house.
Yes, please tell everybody we're here if you can give us some retweet love.
We've got some really exciting things happening here with art that we can't wait to share.
Creatress has been around, exploring all these amazing events.
We're going to hear about everything she's been up to.
Yeah, everyone's getting in the house.
Jen's in the house.
Hello, hello.
Happy Tuesday.
Yeah, welcome.
All right, just a few minutes here.
We'll get started.
I'm going to get some stuff pinned to the top.
Say hi to our guests.
We're going to do a proper introduction.
And, yes, if you guys can keep spreading the word, retweeting the room, telling everybody where we're at.
I appreciate it so much.
You know I do.
Give me just a moment here.
Thanks.
Thanks.
All right, let's get this space party started.
I tried to pick some music to get us in the mood for these amazing performances that I've been seeing in your feed, Creators.
So hopefully that was a little inspiring.
Kind of got me in the mood.
I was like, man, I want to be at this performance.
Real quick, I'm your host, Lava Lisa.
And thank you for joining the Entertainment family of creators.
Today is Tuesday, May 23rd.
Yes.
And if you're new here, Entertainment is a Web3 one-stop shop for indie creators.
Their content, enabling fan and brand engagement, showman, streaming, distribution, metaverse experiences.
And now, secondary market sales.
Yes, yes, yes.
We can talk about that more.
If we haven't met, I'm here because I'm obsessed with putting creators in the spotlight.
Also getting to know founders, projects, all of these amazing businesses and companies that are growing right here in our community.
I love connecting resources, helping our community grow.
And, of course, special thank you to Entertainment for helping me do what I love every week,
which is see these amazing projects, creators, and founders, and all of this coming to life right here.
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You're going to find founders right here every Tuesday, 4 p.m. Pacific, 7 p.m. Eastern time.
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Let's have some conversation and a lot of fun.
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We're probably talking about giveaways.
We'll get her up here in a minute to give us the deets.
Also, just a reminder, please come up and speak, especially if you haven't had a chance to introduce yourself, your project, what you're doing here in the community.
You never know who you're going to meet.
And, boy, last week did we meet some incredible creators.
So don't miss your chance to put your project in the spotlight as well.
Well, I'm really excited to introduce Creatress Art tonight.
And we have a founder of a digital marketing firm coming in a little bit later.
But, wow, do we have so much to talk about.
Creatress, I know you've been waiting here and been giving your love, giving your love and all the things.
But, hi, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Hi, GM, everybody.
Yeah, thank you so much for all the kind words, honestly.
Just over here smiling.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Hi, everybody.
Hey, hey, everybody says hi.
You're getting lots of emoji loves here from our friend Keith.
Be sure to give him a follow because he's putting out all the positive vibes at every space he is in.
As you can see, the emoji king here.
And we got some love from Shindy.
Shindy, sorry.
Just wanted to say thank you so much for showing the love on those emojis.
And welcome.
We hope we can meet you here throughout the evening.
We'll be here for about 90 minutes.
I love to do introductions because I love doing my homework on our guests.
Creatress, is it okay if I give you a little intro love?
Oh, my God.
Are you good with that?
Yeah.
Is that okay?
Yeah.
I would be honored.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Wonderful.
Here we go.
Like, this is the part where you get to sit back and relax and enjoy all the kindness, right, about the work that you do.
So, please.
So, okay.
First of all, Creatress is a VR sculptor and performance artist working at the intersection of virtual reality and fine art.
That could not be, like, the most accurate phrase of all time.
So, amazing.
Tell us exactly what you're doing and how you're doing it.
And we're going to learn more about that.
So, specifically, you are a Maui-based VR performance artist and technology personality who creates light-based 3D sculptures using the MetaQuest Pro, which gets published to the blockchain.
And I love that you say that your goal is to transform physical and virtual spaces into breathtaking places for mixed reality, experiential encounters, and new memories.
Oh, my goodness.
You certainly are a leader and a voice for Web3.
I know it says that in your bio.
But, oh, my goodness, I can be just more – I feel so privileged to be here with you.
You inspire others, right, to live artfully and beautifully.
I love the sounds that you pick to go with your performances.
As you could tell at the beginning of this intro, I was trying to vibe – trying to get on the vibes with you.
So, what you draw inspiration from, of course, we're going to hear it from your mouth.
But the natural world, bringing your concepts to life in inventive and unique ways and finding creativity on your own terms, right?
And it's fulfilling for you.
And, oh, my gosh, making a difference in the world.
So, everything that I just read that I have researched – and, by the way, I watched your YouTube, all your videos, and got to see your performances because, unfortunately, I haven't had an opportunity to see anything in real life.
You are just so inspiring, and I can't wait to dive in and learn about how you got to this point today.
So, maybe just a little history about what brought you here to this space could kick us off tonight.
All right.
Well, thank you so much for that beautiful intro.
Yeah.
I just feel very grateful to be here and to have people like you who, like, see the whole of what I'm trying to do with my art and the concepts I'm trying to explore.
So, thank you so much.
Yeah.
So, a little background.
And I, you know, taking it way back, I was born in Mexico, Baja California, which is Southern California, just on the other side of San Diego.
So, I spent about 10 years there.
And in 2001, I moved over to San Diego.
It wasn't a very far distance, but it was, like, a world of difference.
Like, now I was in a place where it's the United States versus Mexico.
Totally different culture.
I didn't really speak English back then.
So, you know, then I spent 20 years in San Diego.
And then, last year in July, I moved out to Maui.
And I say that to say, you know, the water and, you know, the coastal kind of lifestyle is very much a part of me and guides a lot of what I do as well in my art.
And then, in terms of how I got to this point of being a VR sculptor, you know, I've always loved sculpture.
In sixth grade is when I remember getting really into it.
And I got to do pottery and use, like, potter's wheel at my school.
And I actually went to a school called the Museum School.
And it was a tiny charter school in San Diego with, like, 70 kids total from third grade to sixth grade.
And it was all centered around creativity.
We learned Balinese dance.
We learned Balinese orchestra, video production, and art.
And art was also with community service.
So, I got to learn sculpting there with clay.
We also did papier-mâché, which I had tried in Mexico.
Making piñatas is, like, a big thing in Mexico.
My grandma used to make us piñatas for our birthdays.
And that's a type of sculpture as well, of course.
And then, you know, fast forward to high school and doing ceramics again.
And then going to art school and doing ceramics there and then learning glassblowing, which is another type of sculpture using, you know, like, real, like, heat.
And that, for me, as an athlete, I think glassblowing is the sport of art.
Like, that is the art world sport.
It is the most intense, like, it's just so much, so challenging.
And there's just so much to it.
And I love it.
But it's incredibly expensive.
And that actually is part of what led me to VR sculpting, is that VR sculpting is actually rather inexpensive, if you think about it, outside of having to acquire the headset.
You can create anything you want once you have the software and once you have the headset.
And you don't have to worry about storing your physical art and taking care of it.
Like, with glass, I mean, I have so much glass art that's just put away very carefully because it can break.
So there's, like, an impermanence to it as well.
So, yeah, that's kind of how I ended up here was through continually experimenting.
I also did found objects.
I did some, a series with mannequins around the female body and all the things surrounding it with that found objects and modifying it and including even plants in my sculptures.
So that's how I ended up here.
I love your story.
So many times the creators in the spotlight here every week on Tuesday reflect that a major turning point for them in finding this space, getting into art, is exposure to schools like you described.
I'm just thinking of my head, like, where are those schools today?
Like, it's so difficult to find those opportunities, you know.
And art is less of a focus and more of a, you know, an extra credit type scenario.
So we hear something similar all the time.
I think what's so fun is to learn about the journey all the way to kind of taking you to, like, this digital world.
I've watched your performances.
I mean, my burning question, because I always have a lot of them, anyone who's stepped into these spaces or found our spaces.
But my burning question is, like, is it similar?
Is what you do virtually, is it similar to this hands-on experience you have?
Because I'm watching your hands in the performance.
And, of course, I get, like, you're holding on to something.
But, like, do you find similarity in the action?
Like, I have to know.
And then we can get into all the other stuff.
Yeah.
That's a great question.
I think there's a similarity, but it's absolutely different.
I mean, there is feedback from the controllers when you do certain things.
But it's just, I mean, with clay, you're touching it.
And if you make one, like, too strong of a move, you've already, like, slumped the whole thing and you're messed it up.
With glassblowing, you're, like, having to hold this metal pipe that's warm.
And then sometimes if you get too close to the top, it's hot.
And you can burn yourself.
And then you're never actually touching the glass.
You're always using it like some kind of other tool to shape it.
So you're never actually touching your sculpture, technically.
With, I mean, with paint, you're not really ever really touching the paint.
You're just touching the paintbrush.
So I just, I feel like it's kind of the same.
Because in this case, I'm not necessarily touching the material.
I'm touching the controllers and using those to, you know, control the material or shape it or whatever.
So it's kind of the same thing, I guess, in that sense.
But that tactile, like, thing, I think you only really get that with sculpture if you're using ceramic or if you're using, like, paper mache or things like that.
I love that explanation from your perspective.
Because it's, like, it's another medium.
And then there's, like, a tool in between, which sounds a little bit similar to what you create.
I actually didn't think about it that way at all.
So thank you for shifting my perspective because that makes complete sense.
So for anyone who hasn't had a chance to either meet Creatress or go through her Twitter feed or bio, tell us, Creatress, about what you do and maybe what you do in a performance that's so unique.
All right.
Yeah.
So I imagine I go in there and, okay, let me give you some, the simple, simple, and then I'll go a little more detailed.
So simply I'm 3D sculpting.
I'm making a three-dimensional sculpture and I'm doing it using a VR headset and an app that lets you do 3D sculptures.
And then the added layer is the audience can see what I see, like, my first person view.
Every single movement of my head, the camera is moving.
And they're looking at it on a big screen or on a projection on a wall or on some surface.
That's the very straightforward way to explain it.
And if you want to see a video, there's a few videos from them at the top.
And as you can see in those videos, it's three different performances that happened last week at VCon satellite events.
And every setup is a little different.
One of them is a projector with a big screen.
Another one was an actual, like, TV screen.
And the third one was also, like, this weird hybrid projector.
It was a projector, actually.
The third one was a projector as well.
And it looks a little different each time.
But that gives you a good idea.
Now, what's actually happening is a little science, I guess.
Most, well, yes, all humans have a heart.
And the beat and the frequency at which it's beating, the beats per minute and all that.
But, you know, like, when you're mad or when you, like, see someone you like that's hot or something, like, your heart starts beating a little faster.
Or, like, when you're running and or, like, different things like that, right?
Okay, so your heart is actually putting out this electromagnetic pulse.
And that actually, like, radiates out like a wave, just like sound waves do.
And it eventually hits or anything, right?
And it can actually be measured.
And I forget the name of the exact, of what they call it exactly.
But one way to describe it is an auric field.
And so that is all to say that when I'm up there, I try to get in a very relaxed but also energetic and receptive mode.
And I'm trying to tap into that auric field that the audience is emitting while they're watching.
And what I'm trying to do is be like a mirror, essentially.
Because I do believe that we're all reflections of each other.
And, like, everything you say to me is something that is actually in you as well.
So that is the whole, like, the conceptual part of my performance is that exact concept of being mirrors of one another.
And me being up there feeling this.
And I'm actually creating art that's expressing that, what I'm feeling from you, from the audience.
And also from the music that's playing.
I try to pick really high vibrational music to put everybody who's there in a high vibrational mood and thus, like, shift their frequency, the electromagnetic pulse that they're putting out.
So that I'm getting good feelings.
It's a selfish thing, you know.
Because I want you to feel good.
And the audience to be dancing and smiling and having fun so that that is the energy that I receive.
And then I can create something even more beautiful.
Yeah.
That's actually what's happening.
This, okay.
So you don't really know what you're going to create, it sounds like, when you are going into a performance.
Okay.
I'm on track.
So you're going in with your own energy.
You're going in with a certain mindset to create.
But you're creating off the energy and the vibes of everyone in the room.
And that is crazy.
I love it so much.
Okay.
So when you go in and you start making art, a typical performance, how long is that?
90 minutes or so?
Oh, no.
That's too long?
An hour?
30 minutes?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry.
It's been anywhere from 10 minutes to my very first one actually was about an hour and 15 minutes.
Because I had a lot of technical difficulties.
It was the first time I'd ever done it.
So there was a few.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's usually 20.
I'd say it's like the average.
Okay.
So you're going in clean slate and then you're feeling the energy.
You're feeling the vibes.
You start creating the art.
You start sculpting.
And then your art kind of comes to life.
That sounds about right?
Exactly.
Got it.
And what about, so I know I'm totally probably going off onto a tangent, but here we are.
So colors.
I actually just did this like amazing, really intense like sound bath and I experienced a
lot of colors.
So like, is that where the color comes from in the art as well?
Are you able to read like the aura or the shifting of colors in the room?
Talk to us about that.
Yeah, so the colors are also part of it.
I, you know, the colors, honestly, I feel like it's a mix.
The colors are sometimes more related to the sound of the music than the feeling.
Um, but it really, it just, it shifts moment by moment because like, sometimes people will
dance with me.
Uh, one time someone like came up and took a selfie with me while I was up there, which
I didn't really like realize until the very last moment.
I was like, oh, whoa, like sounds really close to me.
Um, and so like, I get distracted as well.
Um, sometimes people cheer and then I'm like, oh my God, like this person is here.
And then I'll shift to writing names because that's something else I do is I write names
into the sculptures.
Um, I'm pretty sure I see Mr. Pink down there.
I'm pretty sure I included his name in one of my sculptures this past week.
Um, and you know, like my mom, my dad, my sister, uh, Valerie, who I don't think is in
the room, but she's been at a lot of my performances.
So her names and a few of them, um, when I, when I did the event for Paris Hilton, like
I put her name in there too, of course, but my sister's name, because she was there.
Um, and yeah, sometimes I just, uh, I like to like really include the audience in that
way.
And, and now with the new headset that I have, they have this pass through feature, which
is like changing the game.
And I'll try to post a video here in a little bit, um, where you guys can get an idea of
what that looks like.
But, um, essentially now I can see the audience.
Like if I kind of turn on this setting, I can see the audience and they can see themselves
in the feed.
So I did that during all my performances this last weekend.
And so essentially what the audience is seeing now is they see me right in front of them
with the headset on behind me, they see a screen and on the screen, they can see themselves in
my view.
And they can also see the 3d sculpture that I'm creating kind of overlaid, like mixed
reality.
So now this is just like a multi-reality experience.
It's not just like a VR performance.
There's like a lot of things going on.
And you've got like the agreed upon reality, you've got virtual reality and you've got
mixed reality.
So I, I, it's, it's a lot.
I don't even remember the original question.
No, this is perfect.
I'm actually putting myself in the seat in one of your performances as you're like describing
all of this, you know, because this week I was watching, um, your performances and you
have a couple of them on YouTube and then of course in your feed.
So no, I'm, I'm putting myself right there.
Um, what, so, okay, let me back up.
There's a lot of inspiration from creators from just all these different paths for getting
here to web three and in their community.
Like what was the moment where you were like, I need to bring this to an audience.
Like I want an audience to experience this and I want to create art off of the, the vibe
frequency.
Like what was that moment?
Like what made you decide like, that's, that's a thing here.
I can make this a thing.
Well, um, you know, I don't, I don't, the moment really what it was very kind of serendipitous
how it happened, but I I'd say it was like always kind of brewing.
Um, like I grew up as like always wanting to be some kind of entertainer, um, you know,
like in, even in like kindergarten, I feel like it kind of like ingrained this in me somehow.
Like I always went to like schools that had us like doing little dances or like, uh, little
skits, like since kindergarten.
And like, I remember kindergarten practicing for some thing or other.
Um, and, and I lived in Mexico again, and that's just a very common thing.
Like all the kids do.
And I think here too, in the United States, but there was a lot of emphasis on dance and
like all, all of that and dressing up for something really cool.
And, you know, um, and so that just like stayed with me, like being in parades, like
dressing up and being in parades to like honor, like the revolutionaries and the Mexican
wars and stuff like that.
Like, I was always into that, uh, you know, dressing up for Halloween, like was always
a thing.
My grandma made me all sorts of dresses for like all of my parties.
I was like Pocahontas and Cinderella, like custom dresses, like for my birthdays and things
like that.
And then, you know, like being in improv and then doing theater in college, um, I just like
always, and then I even like, I remember I used to tell jokes when I was little to like
my babysitters or whoever, like all the adults that were around me, cause I was like the
oldest, uh, in my family.
So I was often around a lot of adults and, uh, just always wanted to be funny and make
people laugh and feel good.
Um, so fast forward to, you know, like, and then also I did performances at like galleries
too, like, uh, with like in art school with my art school contemporaries and things
like that.
So it's always been brewing.
Like it's always been, um, something I want to do.
Now, when I got the VR headset in January, 2021, um, well, it was in December actually
because Christmas, but anyway, I got it and immediately tried gravity sketch.
And I was like, Holy cannoli.
This is insane.
I love this.
This is so cool.
I need to show up to somebody.
So I showed it to my son and my partner and I was like, guys, look at this.
And the way that I was able to show it to them was through casting to our living room
So our living room TV was just this, it's like a Mac, uh, what is it called?
Mac mini or whatever it is.
You just plug it in the HDMI to a TV set.
And that was our TV.
We didn't have cable or anything.
We would just do like Netflix and streaming off of that Apple computer.
So I was able to pull up Chrome browser and make my view from my Oculus show up on the
TV for them to, to check out.
And after that, like, I was like, Holy cannoli, like I need to do this.
Like, like as a performance one day.
And one day my friend JJ love shout out to JJ love.
If the Oracle, if anybody doesn't know her, she's the most beautiful, wonderful person,
most supportive lady ever.
Um, and she's an OG here in the space.
She's helped organize a lot of events.
And, um, she reached out in an NFT girls chat.
We have on, um, on, uh, WhatsApp, she reached out and was like, Hey, does anyone want to
do live painting at an event during NFT NYC 2021?
And I was one of the people that said, yeah, and followed up, uh, was talking to the event
producers, told them what I would need because I have done live painting.
That's also something I've done.
I've done live painting with acrylics during a party.
That was like a yoga festival around wellness.
So like, I'm into all this yoga stuff and sacred geometry and yeah, all of that.
So anyway, um, when I was talking to them, I said, Hey, I would need an easel and paints
and canvas and all this stuff.
Or I could do this other thing.
If you guys have a projector and wifi and all that, and they're like, yeah, sure.
Let's try that.
So that's how it happened.
That is literally how the first ever performance, which ended up being November 5th, 2021 during
the first, uh, NFT NYC that I went to.
Okay.
So this is like taking your existing skills.
We talk about this all the time here in this space.
You have this amazing skillset.
You have, oh my goodness, you have so much experience with different art mediums.
And then you work it into web three.
And because you're in the right community, talking to the right people who are supportive
and kind and interested in seeing more of what you have to offer, you're able to put yourself
out there and try it.
And, and then now here you are with like a full blown website so people can book you
for these performances.
Okay.
Um, just another lesson here and web three about community.
We always talk community, community, community, but like truly, truly, you have a skillset.
You're here for a reason.
Hook up with the right people.
Share your talents and put yourself out there, especially around a supportive group who's
positive and really anxious.
So like influence you in a positive way and like creatress, like carry the right vibes.
So it's just a little reminder, friends, like we know you got it in you.
So now you got to put it out there and make it happen because that's when it all comes together.
So, um, another burning question I have for you is, um, do you get something different
out of every performance?
I know the finalized piece of art is different because the vibes are different, but like, what
do you get out of, um, doing a performance?
Is it typically the same?
Does it vary based on, you know, the audience, the vibes?
I'm anxious to know that.
Yeah, I think it, it really varies.
Um, I, I usually just, uh, I love the after.
I love to hear what people, um, like just get from it.
And I love to hear it, especially from people that haven't ever experienced VR and kind of
maybe thought like negatively of it.
Um, I just, the main thing I, I think I get is this unique moment in time with, with a
certain group of people.
Um, it's, it's like, I think that's the main thing because that's like, every time it happens,
it's, it's a unique group of people.
It's a unique venue and moment in time.
Like the market might've been up.
It might've been down.
Um, sometimes, you know, I've had performances after, you know, like the loss of a family
member or a pet, you know?
And so then there's like a catharsis too, for me, because then I have that energy from
them very like present.
And, and then that also manifests in the sculptures.
Um, but regardless, it's always just like a very unique memory that I, that I get from
the audience and from just the whole event as, you know, cause it's a whole experience
every single time.
It's like you getting to the event, the setup, the actual performance, the after performance,
and then seeing what I created.
Um, and then, you know, like showing it to people is a whole nother part of it too.
And, and I'm in the process right now of looking at what I made.
Um, and, uh, yeah, it's just always, it's just always a really, really nice experience.
And I always learn a lot too, and I learn from the feedback I get.
So that's also a big takeaway for me every time I learned something.
I love, I love that you walk away with something.
I know that most creators do that once they've completed their work, right?
You walk away with learning something or experiencing something new.
Um, but I can't imagine the, the rush of energy that you're feeling while you're creating.
And then to like, see that finalized piece of art when, when a performance happens, um,
and forgive me for not knowing this or saying this correctly, but that final piece of art,
is that something that, that goes on the blockchain and becomes the, the PO app or what, what happens
with that final piece of art?
Yeah, great question.
Um, so I usually create a PO app ahead of time, uh, to give away to people that, um, watch
my performances or that meet me at certain events.
Uh, shout out to anybody who has had my PO app.
I believe PeaceFrog, who's in the audience, uh, collected one of mine this past, uh, week.
And what I do with my PO apps is actually, um, for anyone who doesn't know, it's proof of
attendance protocol.
It's like a ticket stub.
Um, I've used the PO app, uh, collectors, uh, I use their addresses to, um, give them actually
early access and special pricing for when I mint the NFTs.
So these sculptures, these 3D objects essentially, uh, can be minted as interactive NFTs where
like you can zoom in, you can like turn it around and rotate it.
And actually, if you just open up the page, it just rotates on its own.
It spins really nicely.
Um, and so, yeah, I mint my sculptures in that way.
Um, like I said, the PO app is a totally different artwork, it's usually like a 2D, uh, animated
GIF, um, with some kind of art that I made or a picture from one of my performances.
Um, yeah.
Perfect.
Perfect.
I love it.
Um, and then you're also doing this outside of performances.
You're also creating art and doing things all the time, but specifically, um, you have something
on Manifold, um, 1111 Energy.
Do, do we want to talk about that a little bit?
I really love how this was a part of a performance, but, um, your explanation about this particular
collection is so beautifully written.
It's so lovely.
Um, do you want to talk about 1111 Energy?
Yeah, of course.
Um, I'll, I'll pin it up to, um, but yeah.
Perfect.
Essentially, um, 1111 Energy is the sculpture that I created during the, um, Innovation Summit.
It was the very first Innovation Summit, um, put on by Paris Hilton and her team, um, at
1111 Media is the name of her, um, media company.
And so I was, well, first taking it back, I, I got recommended to her and her team by
Swans that I just always thought to give her a shout out, um, because that's like women
supporting women and just the power of community, honestly.
And for everyone who commented on Swans' tweet when she was asking about live artists,
like that was my community.
Um, so, um, that was a real community effort, but, so yeah, being there at the performance,
um, you know, the way I describe it is the same way I did any performance.
You know, I went in there and I let every part of that event guide the sculpture.
Um, there was a lot of love that went into that one.
Uh, there was a lot of videos that you can see, um, on my pinned tweet, uh, where you
can see the different ways that I was, um, creating the overall sculpture.
But I knew that I wanted to have some kind of butterfly element.
And like I mentioned before, I usually go in with no, uh, plan in mind as to what I want
the sculpture to look like.
It's really abstract, really guided by the audience.
This one, I wanted to do that, but I also wanted to have some kind of representational
shape.
And the butterfly has, um, always been a symbol in my life.
Um, my great, or my grandmother, Bilal, she loves butterflies.
She taught me how to, um, essentially, uh, dissect butterflies and, you know, small
tangent, but when butterflies die, their wings close up.
Um, so when you find a dead butterfly, if you try to open up its wings, you'll snap them.
Um, they actually have to be like rehydrated in these special little bags before you can
actually try to open them up.
Um, and there's just a whole process.
And my grandmother taught me how to do that.
Um, and she learned from her grandfather, uh, who was my great grandfather, Louise.
Um, and so it's, uh, just that all that to say is just a butterflies are real symbol in
my life, a real occurring.
And from, since I was a child, I've been seeing them.
Um, um, and I could go way into that, but, um, essentially one quick, just to sum of that
part of, um, when I was 10 years old, I, um, I went and spent the summer with my grandparents.
They threw a birthday party for me, uh, for my 10th birthday.
It was amazing.
Um, and they took me to see a museum in, uh, in the state of Maygill.
And it was a museum that had a collection that my great grandfather, Louise, had donated
upon his death to the state.
And the state was showing this collection of his art, which was mainly, uh, butterflies and
insects and different animals that he had, uh, collected and preserved and created art
with, like he made a, a portrait of the Virgin of Guadalupe with, um, with butterfly wings
of different colors that he had found from his many, um, you know, trips up the mountain
where my grandmother went with him to help like collect all of these little insects and
things.
So that's where butterflies come from in my work.
You see butterflies, that's where it comes from.
It's not just like that.
I love the emoji or, you know, like the, the butterfly, everybody loves butterflies, but
I just really feel a connection to them and they connect me with my ancestors and, you
know, both living and transitioned.
Um, so, uh, you know, there's that.
And then back to the, um, you know, back to the sculpture, 11, 11 energy.
Uh, so I have the abstract butterfly and then I gave her a crown.
Um, and it's just, you know, the whole idea is that we keep transforming through every single
experience we have.
I feel transformed every single time I do a performance because every single time, like
I said, I learned something.
It's, it's just, uh, it changes me whether it's a little bit or a lot, it changes me.
And I believe every single experience we have does that.
Um, and so, um, just like the butterfly comes from the caterpillar and it literally transforms
into something completely different.
That's kind of the symbology that I'm driving at here.
And with Paris Hilton specifically, um, she just came out with a book where she talked
about a lot of deeply personal things, including, um, you know, like, uh, abortion, which is
incredibly heavy topic.
I don't necessarily want to go into that, but like for someone to go through something
like that, or even child loss, it's, um, it transforms you and to be able to speak about
it publicly, even though, you know, you're going to receive, uh, hate and backlash and judgment.
I think, uh, it's just, it's, it's incredibly important to remember that we are not static
beings.
Like we constantly transform and change and that is a beautiful thing.
Um, and then outside of that, uh, 1111, um, also symbolizes new beginnings.
If you believe in numerology, um, every day, every night, we are transformed and every challenge
we get helps us evolve ourselves, which in turn evolves the collective consciousness that
I think we all are connected through.
Um, so yeah, if you guys want to take a look at that, um, the pin tweet is up there and actually
about 50% of the additions on that one have sold out.
It's actually only about, I don't know, $20 right now, depending on how much ETH is.
And you also get a augmented reality file so that you can make your own AR content with
the sculpture in it.
So that's 1111 energy.
Yes, as you're talking about 1111 energy, it was 444, which is a, which is a huge like
number, right?
I know, I know Keith, you probably got all the, uh, the heart alerts there because it
was 444 as you creators were talking about new beginnings and, um, just the, the, the
idea of the, the 1111 media and transformation and renewal.
So I thought that was perfect for this space.
I just had to do a quick shout out for 444 because Keith is in the room and like, if you
know Keith, like, you know, that that is his time of day.
That is it.
Yes.
So everything that you're saying perfectly aligns with what's happening here in this
space.
Um, I have a question.
Do you, you write your own descriptions for each one of your collections because this
is so beautifully written.
I'm going to have to read some of it if that's okay.
Do you write?
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, I do.
And, and this is like, you, you write these, like, this is like coming out of your art.
It's so beautiful.
Um, specifically, gosh, um, you do say what the number 1111 symbolizes, but how you write
it here is the number 1111 symbolizes new beginnings, as well as a reminder that we are all one.
We are all evolving day by day, arising with a new after each night, like the caterpillar
wakes up a butterfly.
Each challenge we overcome evolves our collective consciousness, which grows more beautiful by
the day.
And I just, I absolutely love that.
And the other, um, description about the 1111 energy 3d sculpture made during your VR performance,
um, it, it says the abstract butterfly is wearing a crown and flying high in space through pink
clouds and self-reflective orbs displaying her newest transformation and now having heading to
her next iteration.
Uh, I feel like that's always us.
Like, I feel like you described so many of us that are right here in this space, either creating
in the moment as we're being inspired by your words or just listening and, um, really thinking
through our next iteration of either our art or ourselves or, you know, what's next.
So I don't know, those words are so well-written and so easy to say and just fit so nicely into
what we're doing here.
So again, I just have to say super inspired by everything you're doing.
Um, just going to give you a breather creatress because we do have a few new listeners here.
I want to give a shout out to everybody who's coming in and especially if this is your first
time in an entertainment space, we're excited about putting creators, projects, and founders
in the spotlight.
Uh, we are entertainment.com that's M I N T.com.
Um, and entertainment is a web three, one-stop shop for indie creators and their content, enabling
fan and brand engagement, showments, streaming, metaverse experience distribution, and now secondary
sales.
So please take a look at the website, get to know us a little bit.
Um, and of course this is a great time too.
If you have any questions for creatress, um, about the art, the performances, her journey
to where she is today and what she's shared with us so far, please request to speak and
say hi and, um, shower her with all the love and kindness that I know we have here in this
space.
Okay.
Um, more questions.
I promised I was going to give you a breather.
Was that long enough?
Um, it's all good.
Okay.
Awesome.
Um, okay.
Next question.
And actually I should, we did name this space art and marketing.
So I think we do need to touch a little bit on marketing because obviously your link tree,
you have kind of everything in one place.
It makes it very easy, um, to navigate who you are, what you do, how to book a performance,
which I think is so incredibly important, important.
And we were, um, expecting our friend Nadia.
I'm not sure if she's going to make it in kind of like, um, flights and travel have been
getting, interrupting a lot of our guests here in this space, but that's okay because
we have each other.
Um, so when it comes to, um, marketing and kind of putting yourself out there, right?
We're, we're talking about like the existing market.
You have a great network and a really awesome community that will recommend you for things
that, that are coming up.
Um, just a little bit advice, advice from your perspective, because you are getting booked
for performances, um, your artwork is getting purchased.
So, um, if you can give maybe your top two tips of marketing advice, like, could you kind
of give us a little, a little snippet of what you would recommend in this market?
Ooh, um, I guess outreach would be the main thing.
The main thing when it comes to, um, like trying to book performances, um, in terms of selling
artwork, I would say just constantly posting about your art, um, not like an overwhelming
amount, but a consistent amount.
And, you know, remembering that even though some of your art that you may have made, you
know, a long time ago, quote unquote, um, maybe you already talked about it and maybe
you already promoted it, but it's okay to talk about it again, as if it was new.
I'm not saying like, pretend like it's new.
I'm just saying, talk about it.
Uh, like the people reading it and your description and seeing it are seeing it for the first time,
because a lot of them might be seeing it for the first time.
Um, the fact of the matter is on these algorithms, uh, and all these things that we use, you're
not going to get in front of all of your audience, um, or all of your followers or whatever you
want to call it.
Um, it's, it's just not going to show it to all of them.
So it's okay to post things a couple of times or more than a couple of times.
Um, yeah.
And then, you know, obviously trying to create a really nice website is also really important.
Um, you know, I, I got really lucky to work with someone, um, for that.
I tried making my own websites for a long time and, um, yeah, this is just way better
is having like a professional.
So don't be afraid to bring in professional help.
Um, I think branding is also really important.
Uh, I can't say I'm the best at it, uh, or that I'm necessarily a professional when it
comes to that.
I do want to give a shout out to my friend, my friend, um, who is a branding pro and, um,
you know, he has given me some, uh, tips, uh, as I've known him for a couple of years
now in the space and just watching him, um, is also like a learning experience.
Like remember, you don't need to, um, get direct advice from people all the time.
Like you could watch what they're doing and learn from how they are interacting and how
they're presenting themselves.
Um, so yeah, that's, that's, that's what I'd say about that.
I, I really love, oh, can you hear me?
Can someone give me a thumbs up if you can hear me?
I feel like I'm writing again.
Okay.
You can hear me.
Oh, I don't know if anyone else can hear me.
Let's give him a minute.
Keith, can you, yeah, he looks like he's in here.
Okay.
What's interesting is, um, I can't see any of the emojis, um, that are coming in if they
are.
So I'm so grateful you can still hear me.
Um, this actually happened last week, but much earlier in this space.
So I've been really delicate with pinning things and moving around, um, during this,
but okay.
Um, I love that you shared a piece of advice that you would give is to speak about your
project or your art as if it's the first time that someone is seeing it.
That is incredibly valuable right now because yes, as things are slowing down, um, of course
you feel like you're being redundant and you're to, you might feel like you're pushing, right?
But there's a really big chance that there is someone or many someones that are new to
your feed, new to the space, uh, new to your project and who you are and what you do.
So, um, that is an incredible takeaway and a really good reminder even for me, um, who I
can't call myself an artist in the sense of I'm not creating art right now.
My goal is to help put creators in the spotlight, but even for me, um, to, to, you know, remind
myself like someone new could not know what I'm doing or how I'm doing it.
So I love that piece of advice.
Um, and then the fact that you get connected through spaces like this, I really think, um,
thinking about introducing or asking a question to a speaker, you certainly want to remind
listeners who you are, what you do, what you're working on and the best way to support you.
Um, and then it sounds like creatress and correct me if I'm wrong, you have a really great connection
for someone who can do a really nice website, which is certainly necessary.
So, um, you know, if, if you need that, I think you can DM creatress and she might have a great
referral for you at this point.
Totally.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My, uh, yeah, my website developer is definitely open to working on other sites.
So just let me know if you need that.
I'll send you his way.
I love it.
Um, you might have about creatress are her projects, her performances, um, hop up and
say hi.
Um, okay.
So a big question we ask creators is like, how can we in this room best support you either
what you're doing now or what you're about to do?
Um, is there a few things that we could do right here in this room that would get you the
support to kind of move you to the next level?
Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's a, there's a bunch of different things.
Um, you know, I guess the easiest one would be, uh, just follow, follow me on Twitter,
follow me on Instagram, um, check out my website, subscribe to the newsletter.
Um, I'm working on, uh, building out my newsletter list.
Um, I won't send you very many cause I'm just getting started on it.
So you'll get no more than one email per month, I'd say.
Um, and other than that, you know, retweeting my pin tweets, I have a whole thread there on
my pin tweet with all my art.
Um, so retweeting any and all of it is always helpful.
Um, actually collecting the art.
If you're a collector, I've got price ranges from, you know, $15, which is like 0.01 ETH to,
you know, 0.5 ETH, right?
So there's something for everybody.
Um, I've got stuff on Tezos too.
If you're like Tezos, um, yeah.
Just sharing any of my content, um, primarily, um, with people that might be organizing events.
Like if you hear somebody that's organizing events, like that is like the main thing I'd
say that people could do is organizers, um, recommend me to organizers.
Um, yeah.
Stuff like that is I think the most important at this point because, uh, word of mouth has
been the way that I've looked at most of my performances so far.
So, yeah.
Thank you for asking.
And so just, uh, recap since, uh, entertainment, uh, lost her mind.
I'm back, but I lost you, Creatress.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
What, what was the last thing you heard?
Oh, I cannot hear you.
I am so sorry this is happening.
Um, oh, I know.
I see your emojis though.
I just, I was so into how we can support you.
Um, it looks like other people can hear me.
I'm so sorry that I cannot hear you.
So, okay.
We got thumbs up.
Thank you so much.
Um, can you just come on one last time to see if I can hear you?
Testing, testing, testing.
Okay.
So this, these are the same symptoms that we started to experience with the last space.
So before we get completely rubbed, um, I just want to tell you that how much I appreciate
your inspiration during this space, um, that you shared what it means to you to perform
and to create art in front of a live audience.
And then we understand your vibes and where your energy comes from, your frequencies.
We are certainly, there are so many people right here as listeners in this room that can
appreciate that.
Um, please, if you can support Creatress Art in all the ways that she mentioned, please
join us here next Tuesday.
Um, and yes, unfortunately I'm going to close the space before we get rugged.
We have a couple of new listeners.
Hold on.
Let's say hi to them really quick, but I can keep the space open for a few minutes to be
sure that you can follow everyone in the room.
Um, but most importantly, special thanks to Creatress Art for just sharing so much and
doing what she does for our community and in our space and bringing her talent to web three
and, um, to everybody here who is listening and can still hear me, thank goodness, I want
to say thank you so much for spending time with us today on this Tuesday and, um, learning
more about Creatress Art, her projects, and all the amazingness she's bringing to all these
events around the world.
Be sure to give her a follow and see where she's going to be next to experience this artwork.
Um, thank you so, so much, everyone for being here.
I hope you have the best night.
Thank you so, so much.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye everyone.
Thank you for coming.
I guess she's keeping it open a few minutes.
So I'll do some shout outs.
Thanks to Fen, Frank, Animate, Snapsid, GD, for pulling up.
Everybody who made it in.
Appreciate you, Keith.
Gave you a follow.
I was already following you, actually.
Um, yeah, I hope everybody has a great day.
And thanks again for all the support.
