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Art & Utility with @EricSpivak
Recorded: Dec. 6, 2022 Duration: 1:21:01Space Recording
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Welcome, welcome. We are just
working on getting our guest in here
and we will begin shortly.
Let's see if we can get him up.
Thanks, everybody, for being here.
Definitely tweet out the room and DM your friends.
We're really excited to talk with Motivate today.
I was playing some Wu-Tang.
I hope I wasn't muted.
Did you guys hear me playing music?
The music play.
I just couldn't hear you.
I was the only person I could do.
Say that again?
I said the music was clear.
I'm pretty sure for everybody besides me.
I was the only one that did not have audio.
Okay.
Okay.
And then I was just like, oh, I don't know, East Coast, West Coast, Wu-Tang.
I don't know where everybody lies along those lines.
But, I mean, cash rules, everything around me is kind of universal.
And it's been a rainy day here in Brooklyn.
So, that felt just, you know, the mood.
So, I'm very excited to have you here today and lovely seeing all of our friends who joined.
And very grateful to Nifty Kip for hosting this space.
We're going to be chatting with Motivate today about art and utility.
Motivate and I connected, as many of us have connected to him through Clubhouse, early days, OG in the space.
And he has gone on to create and build in communities and in the space and in IRL and been a champion for utility.
So, I think this is kind of like one of the most, you know, perfect people to have to talk about utility.
Um, and you've conducted yourself and executed projects that we'll get more into.
So, I'm delighted that you've joined us today for this installment of Art and Utility.
Uh, definitely can't wait to talk about your projects, your new venture, social currency, and your journey in the Web3 space.
But before we chat about all that, if we have time at the end for questions or comments, we'll bring folks up then.
And so, if you're requesting to come up right now, hold on to your request until the end and we'll get you up if we have time.
So, with that, we're talking with, um, Eric Spivak, aka Motivate today, who is an OG in the space, as I mentioned, and has been working in interesting and what I would consider alternative ways to push limits of utility in Web3.
However, firstly, uh, I just want everybody to take a moment and check out the pinned tweets above.
You can follow along as we talk today with, with Eric, with Motivate.
And, um, Eric, please feel free to pin anything you feel applicable up top as well as we go along.
Um, because I didn't know kind of what you wanted me to pull from.
So, yeah, just feel free with the pin.
Um, and yeah, so I wanted to start with a small introduction.
Um, Eric Spivak, I don't know if I'm saying your name correctly.
And, okay, good.
Yeah, actually, I didn't have time, but I was like, I need to do a deep dive on where this last name came from.
Um, because it is very unique.
Um, so, aka Motivate is an advisor and key opinion leader in the NFT metaverse space and Web3 world, specializing in marketing, consulting, business development, partnerships, and experiences.
He's also been featured in Rolling Stone, GQ, and Decrypt.
So, Eric, you've been involved in so many exciting projects.
Some where you were at the helm and other endeavors where you were involved in both helping shape and helping build.
But for those of us who are just learning about you, I would first love to hear in your own words about your IRL background before you entered Web3.
And then a bit about how you arrived in the NFT slash Web3 space.
And welcome.
Thank you for being here.
Yeah, absolutely, Jess.
Pleasure is all mine.
And hopefully you can hear me clearly because the hotel that I'm at in Miami is definitely very loud.
And it just keeps getting louder and louder.
So, I think the general manager is on this whole red line to you headline thing.
But anyways, yeah, my name is Eric or Motivate.
And I guess how I got started in this space is 2016, I used to convert Bitcoin into cash or sorry, cash into Bitcoin and back and forth, basically, in order to make adult personal ads for a dominatrix that I was dating.
So, a pretty untraditional entry into this space of that.
But, you know, at the end of the day, I just looked at cryptocurrency as a transactional tool, much like exchanging a euro or a pound or a rupee or a peso or any other foreign exchange.
And then I started seeing that you can purchase things with it.
You can use it to buy services or products.
And at the end of the day, I just didn't really think twice of it.
It wasn't top of mind.
Most people that I knew didn't really have any or talk about it or really understand it.
So, you know, passively, I was aware, but just not proactive in, I guess, the cryptocurrency side of things.
But fast forward to 2019, 2020, I was building an international women's music festival for Los Angeles Historic Park right outside of downtown L.A.
And then COVID happened.
So, what that ended up doing is it forced me, like everybody else, to kind of pivot and backtrack a little bit and reassess what was important to them and where they were going and where they were at and what they were doing.
And so, I ended up sourcing PPE gear for hospitals and schools.
I ended up creating, like, a 32-page resource guide for people to sustain through COVID.
You know, I ended up doing a lot of untraditional things in order to create a more sustainable and, I guess, stress-free environment for people of all walks.
And then after that, I got on the bus and I built the first space for anybody to have conversations around anything in relation to cryptocurrency, blockchain, metaverses, AR, VR, XR, all of this stuff.
And if you build it, they will come.
There was under 20,000 users on the platform at the time.
It was primarily HBCU grads and conversations that were driven around advocacy and activism and culture.
And, yeah, within that, there was kind of the people like myself that had the opportunity to create our own clubs early on.
And I created essentially what would be a watering hole for all of these conversations.
That gave a six-month head start.
And, yeah, I guess that was kind of the start of it all.
I would say November, December 2020 into early 2021.
And hosting everybody from Club Render to People to Lady Phoenix to Netflix, Christie's, Sotheby's, Doja Cat, Hasha Thomas, Shepard Ferry, Mike Dean, Justin Bura.
Just, it was, the list is crazy.
So, yeah, that's kind of, like, the start of it.
And I don't know where we want to go from here because I can just keep talking and that's not going to be good.
So, good question.
No, I love it.
That's such a good foundation for what we're going to talk about today because you have, you're firmly planted in a lot of the work that you've been doing, whether it's, like, philanthropic, entertainment, experiential.
And so, all of those things you're now bringing into the space, right, to foster conversation.
And that's one of the first things that I recognized about you in Clubhouse that you were fostering conversations and discussions that went on to kind of, like, people had spinoff, you know, communities, right?
And, like, that is something that's really important and is ultimately, I think, going to keep the space afloat and also drive interest into these IRL endeavors as well and, you know, keep people in the Web3 space as in addition to that.
So, before we get into your current collection, which I cannot wait to talk about social currency, I wanted to move back and talk about some of your previous projects and maybe highlight some of the projects leading up to social currency, namely those that you feel moved you forward in your journey in Web3, specifically your conduit and friendship tech.
Like, and if you want to talk about those or if you'd rather talk about others, but those were the two main ones that I sort of knew you from.
So, if you wanted to talk a little bit about how those experiences and those projects moved you forward.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, as far as, like, Web3 goes, before your conduit stepped into Web3, you know, I had nfts.tips.
So, nfts.tips, I built on Clubhouse at the same time as having your conduit presents, and it was the first and only place, pretty much, in these live audio chats that you could have these conversations.
And, in turn, there was a lot of daily education.
We'd open rooms at 8 a.m. and go until the wheels fell off, sometimes 10 days consecutively or more, with Alexander Nazy and this guy named Classy at the time,
which I don't know if I even want to say either name, since they don't exist anymore in the space.
But, at the end of the day, we felt it was important to provide a narrative on, you know, empowering artists and self-sovereignty
and independent creation, ownership, rights, and really, like, a new face to accountability for your direction and life financially and creatively and ambitiously as it could be.
So, your conduit was used for rooms around marketing, branding, artist development, promotions, PR, the worlds that I come from in that production.
And then, NFTS 6 was more or less just NFTs, blockchain, web 3, the whole toolbox.
And then, after that, New Friendship Tech, I derived around March of this year because I felt that there were a lot of things missing,
and instead of getting angry about it, I decided to take action.
I think anger is best repurposed as action.
So, yeah, New Friendship Tech is underneath your conduit agency.
New Friendship Tech is technology making new friendships.
NFT is the abbreviation for New Friendship Tech.
And I'm cultivating communities, contributing to culture, and clearing to creatives, all while revolutionizing the way you connect.
So, you know, our unique approach converts social currency into equity through participation.
And what that means is every attendee, every speaker, performer, sponsor, vendor, advocate, and affiliate to the ecosystem gets rewarded throughout the journey of the brand
and has the opportunity to help shape the brand and product as it continues to build, scale, and transform.
So, every contributor is another building block and brick in the wall made as a foundation.
And the reason it matters and why New Friendship Tech is really important to me is, you know, or one of many reasons is,
in a world where social media used to bring us closer together, now more than ever, it pushes us further apart.
And we've lost all control and autonomy, data, and ownership the moment we hit publish on any platform, right?
So, we've also become slaves to algorithms where less than 10% of our total audiences can actually be reached without an ad spend budget.
And so, I consider that malicious social engineering.
And I've seen how it also impacts our mental health, our income, and monopolizes our time by forced interactions and unnecessary activities
as an attempt to maintain visibility and awareness on these platforms.
So, you know, me being very tired of playing the games and building castles on other people's sand,
I looked into it more and started doing some research and realized that, you know, we don't really get anything out of it.
There's no return on investment when the value extraction from these platforms is over $50 billion in annual ad revenue
to pull off of what I just mentioned.
So, you know, friends of mine who are like, well, you bang on social media so much, but you're still here on Instagram,
you're still on Snapchat, you're still on TikTok and Twitter and Facebook and LinkedIn and say,
don't like it, don't participate.
But unfortunately, most of us are past the point of no return as we've all created these important digital identities
and accounts and profiles that hold our personal information and reflect our and showcase our network and abilities,
knowledge, and experience at the cost of forfeiting our rights and intellectual property.
So, we've fallen victim to these platforms that we now require to stay connected to our friends, family, and peers.
And if they get compromised, we're really at even a bigger loss than we are of the time and energy and more.
So, you know, they're all connected to so many facets of our lives.
I thought I needed to provide something different.
And, you know, I think Facebook was very negligent in changing their name to Meta.
So, New Friendship Tech is tied into the social side and social media and it's also sewn into meeting the algorithm through IRL experiences.
And it's also about giving back and, you know, giving before receiving.
So, the last part of this is pretty much the solution I came up with is, well, I won't say I fixed the problem.
I can definitely show how we've successfully made an impact through our sustainable model and concept launched across several major metropolitan cities nationwide.
New Friendship Tech has reimagined events and traffic code and experience, connection, network, social equity, ownership, and accessibility,
all things, streaming, and productions, and immersive programs.
We feature and highlight the most valuable, diverse, and authentic voices in the Web 2 and Web 3 world.
And, as I said, it's an important conversation.
You can see the license blockchain, AFTs, cryptocurrency, metaverses, and more.
We've done the homework for you to make it fun to learn, easy to digest, understand, and comprehend
as an all-inclusive master class for the culture from the industry leaders in arts, music, fashion, tech, gaming, and entertainment, and more.
But it's not confusing, not complicated, no sales, no pitching, no cost-associated, and every event's completely free.
Free entry, free food, free drinks.
And where that social equity gets turned into something more, where it's like social currency turned into equity by way of participation,
like we compensate people for attending these events, not up front, but after they attend, and we give them a multitude of things,
and they've managed to already get back $350,000 to the ecosystem just in the last six months with new friendship tech.
So, yeah, that's kind of a mouthful.
Yeah, I love this.
And I wanted to actually go back and just repeat something you said for anybody that didn't hear this.
You said, anger is best repurposed as action.
And I couldn't agree with that statement more.
I think that's a very powerful thing.
Somebody should clip that.
I'm definitely going to quote you on that because that's a very revolutionary, very activist-oriented comment that you just made.
And a lot of the reason why people entered the space or what they hope for in a decentralized space, let's say,
and also reminds me of Esther Hicks, which is this spiritual medium teacher where she talks about steps up on the emotional scale
and depression being the lowest, but anger and resentment being a step up towards happiness on the emotional scale
because it puts you into an action-oriented place where you begin to move and make waves
and start to become actually physically active with whatever you do.
So I really appreciate you making that statement.
It definitely resonates.
And since today we're talking about art and utility,
and, you know, I wanted to hear from you how you define utility generally
because, like, you've seen it all, like a lot of us in this room, like,
I want to know your definition of utility and then more specifically how you define it
in relation to the projects that you've been working on since you've been in the space.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I think at the end of the day, people are, and this isn't mutually exclusive to the NFT space,
but, you know, we all have problems that need solutions,
and those problems get solved by asking a few questions, right?
How can we help you?
What do you want or need?
Who is it for?
When do you need it by?
Where is it going?
And then what's your budget or offer, right?
So when I look at projects, I kind of strip them down to those basic questions like, you know,
how does this help me?
What do I want or need from it?
Who is it by?
When do I need it by?
Is it urgent?
Do I have to admit today?
Do I have to sign up for it, or can I wait?
Is it going to change price point or availability in the future?
And then where is it going?
Does it help me intrinsically, inherently?
Does it, like, or does it collect dust in my wallet and not do anything?
Is it going to come with a physical print?
You know, and then how much is it, right?
Is it within my budget?
Is it something that I can buy twice and feel comfortable with?
So, you know, I think there's a lot of different types of utility in the space.
Primarily, I think it's the boys' club that we should patent utility around because there's
way too many men in the space.
I'm just, sorry.
What?
There's too many tools in the space to use to build Web3.
No, but, you know, I think there's different types of benefits and features attached to
every type of place we go and thing we go, right?
You go to a bar, the utility of that bar is potentially entertainment, networking, drinks
that you enjoy, you know, the opportunity to socialize in a different atmosphere and
environment, maybe the opportunity to even sit down, you know, that's the utility of a
chair, right?
So I think a lot of people in the space overlook kind of the basics because they're trying
to be so robust and complex and petty with what they're creating that they kind of lose,
in essence, what matters.
And that's making things digestible, making things easily palatable for a general audience
or a mass audience to get.
The more complicated and confusing of a roadmap or, you know, route where you're going to
people, the harder it is for them to bite into what you're creating.
It's hard for them to pick up what you're putting down if they have to read verbiage that
they don't understand or they have to jump through 15 hoops of fire in order to manage,
right?
So, I mean, Flushed on his head, utility with his NFT that was actually smokable and came
with a physical item that he would smoke and it was tied to digital art and music components.
Boys Noise and, who else, and Channel Trace, both of them did NFTs with utilities that allowed
you to buy a bunch of stems and those stems served as features that you could basically
repurpose those stems of music and create your own original music and have them attached
to that music, whereas typically it'd be very expensive to work with them and kind of
inaccessible and out of reach.
So, you know, those utilities are great.
Logic has a utility called The Plug.
It takes patience to watch it increase and change and work over time.
And then you can use it to get discounts at certain spaces in Chicago, as well as other
connections that he has that give you benefits and perks for holding it, right?
You're part of a member club in that sense, almost like a AAA or so-and-loss.
And then I think Dozier Cat's NFT, I hosted that.
You know, her NFTs allowed you to have a VIP experience, round trip, all inclusive to go see
whatever shows, and be backstage in the green room and meet her.
So the list goes on and on with these different types of access, I think, being like the majority
of NFTs that are really moving people.
But, you know, there is no right or wrong way.
And we all get to define and redefine and design like what utility means and looks like
in the space.
I, with social currency, felt that, you know, I remember so many moments in my life where
I didn't have the money, but I had the time.
Or I had the time that I didn't have the money, and then the very few times that I
had both.
So I would always have to trade my social currency, my network, my knowledge, my experience, and
basically do sweat labor or skill shares or trading or bartering in order to get what
I needed and what I wanted.
And so, you know, as a DJ, sometimes you need photographers for events or videographers to
recap events.
But, you know, videographers sometimes need music behind their videos and their trailers.
So that would be a moment of a skill share or a trade.
And I think in this space, we're always communicating.
I think we're almost hyper-communicative and always on because we have these options to
talk 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Everybody in this room and everybody listening has special skills and superpowers that can
help other people in this room and other people in this space at large.
But you would never know unless you ask questions or they project and share what they're doing.
And so I was figuring out what would be a unique utility for myself would be something that
people want, something that people need, something that people can claim on demand, and something
that people pay a whole lot of money for at a discount.
So basically, I just opened myself up to putting my time on chain.
I made a social contract on chain that allows people to buy into my social currency.
And so what that is is, you know, you're buying time with me in the future for a multitude of
services of your choice and looking through my portfolio and background of 15 years of
producing events and DJing and rapping and copywriting and voice lovers and audio engineering
and event production and hosting conferences and trade shows and summits and speaking on
panels.
I could put together a 16-bar verse and a hook.
I could make a song for you and go straight.
Like, there's so many different ways that I can work from merchandising and apparel to all
the other things that I just mentioned.
And it's just up to you to figure out what it is that you could use me best for.
And I'm that phone of friends.
I'm that one call.
And people that understand this, you know, they, some of them have already redeemed the
NFT for an hour of consulting.
Now, with my NFT being 0.1, my consulting rate is $2,000 an hour.
0.1 is not $2,000.
So, um, I've had people buy them and then the next morning ask me if it's too soon for
them to redeem it.
They know what they want to use it for.
And then next thing you know, I'm sitting with them at lunch or on a Zoom call and I'm
auditing their project and giving them their creative strategy and consulting and advising
and really helping them shape the best product possible.
And then kind of keeping tabs on their development and growth of the project that they're looking
to release.
Now, if you would hit me through my agent or through my manager or through my agency of
your conduit, you would get my rate sheet and you would see $2,000 or $5,000 or $15,000
for whatever that service is.
But because you're invested in me by buying my NFT, um, I'm invested in you and giving
you my service at 90% off or 95% off or 85% off.
And the bigger picture of it is when I win, you win.
The bigger I get, the more accolades and accomplishments, sorry, the more accomplishments and accolades that
I have, the more press and PR that I get, the more established that I get and higher I
climb, um, that NFT just gains more value because my rates are going to increase.
My cost is going to be more inaccessible and unobtainable, but that NFT stays the same.
So, yeah, I think that's kind of in a nutshell, some examples of utility with my quote unquote
utility token or social token.
And, um, I think a very innovative way of putting myself into the blockchain, literally.
Yeah, that's a great TLDR of the, of social currency.
And, you know, I was going to ask you about the genesis of it, but I feel like you've really
covered that well.
And for people who are interested in this, cause I feel like this is very, you know, it's
philosophy based, but it's like rooted in you doing a lot of research in the space and
things that weren't working, that are working, that could work, you know, looking to the future.
And I love what you wrote about, um, specific to this project on your LinkedIn and saying,
you were talking a lot about accessibility and, you know, having the time, having the
money.
And when you have the money, you know, you know, that whole thing, it's like a, it's
like a hamster wheel.
Right.
So I feel like this is, this is such an incredibly interesting project, but I'm curious what, you
know, as you look into the future with social currency, what do you hope for the project?
And what's your ultimate mission and vision as it moves into the future?
That is a good question.
So, um, I can't reveal too much in regards to the future of it because the future is defined
by the people that redeem them.
So I already have proof of concept, so to speak, of three people already redeeming them for
different utilities and use cases.
By the end of it all, I'm going to have 555 different utility and use cases, as well
as reviews, as well as supporters slash fans slash, um, you know, people that are essentially
pre-purchased my services at an extremely discounted rate.
Um, and, um, I think as someone that is very, I hate to say visionary, but I've definitely
been named like a polymath in a lot of ways.
I was growing weed before that was legal.
I started delivery services before Postmates, Word, Ask Your Weed, Scrub, Hub, Pink Dot.
I, um, you know, I had a streaming platform that was the world's first and only online to open
like 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Like you can come on my platform as a rapper or a listener and you can, it was basically
Twitter and Clubhouse, uh, just almost 20 years ago at this point.
And even when I was playing EverQuest and World of Warcraft and Starcraft and Diablo, like
I was making more money than my parents combined through a small little company called PayPal,
um, freestyle rapping in these chat rooms that I charge people to listen to.
Um, so I think in the future of things right now, we're building for the future.
Everything is the future of this, future of that, and I want to have something on chain
that allows people to, um, know that they can contact me with confidence in the future
and get support on whatever it is that they need.
Um, I've always been, uh, an educator and facilitator and, and motivator for curators,
for gatekeepers, for the fighters and underdogs, alpha dogs, friends and family.
And I, I really want, um, to, to reinforce people that feel like they're lacking confidence
or they might have social anxiety or they might be a little awkward or, or they might not pay
attention to detail or might be distracted.
Like I want to be a tool and resource and service for them without them having to find
like, just a wallet X of names attached to reviews that might be more expensive and not have the
best interest at heart.
So, you know, this, this project is, is really, it's, it's a expedited entry to me and everything
that I've done.
And if you look at my website and you look at whoever I've worked with, um, it's, you're,
you're literally getting access to any of those people that I have good relationship
and rapport with still.
So if you want me to pitch something to somebody as a redemption of your thing, that's, that's
So I think it's really, it's, it's not a use it or lose it situation.
I think it's, it's the opposite.
It's like, hold onto it and see where this kid goes.
And if he's continuing to break ceilings and broke records, then that's even better for
me because when I see he's in the room with the people that I want to pitch a project to
and I've been holding onto that project forever, he can take my redemption of this thing that
I got for a hundred bucks or 125 bucks and I can shoot my shot at someone that I typically
want to be able to, you know?
And I, I think that's kind of like the future of things.
I think if you're building in this space, looking at the future and the trajectory and
how things are going, it's a format change.
And it's a format change as much as cash to wire transfers and credit of debit cards to
electronic transfers like Venmo, Cash App, PayPal, Zelle, you know, digital wallets.
We're starting to see them pop up with FDIC insured companies and banking systems that are
adopting blockchain technology.
So as much as a format change it is in the future of finance, it's also format change in
every industry.
We're seeing AI shape the world right now.
We're seeing music where people are owning their masters and making more money from one
record than they would in a 15 year career in the music industry.
So, um, there's just a lot of really exciting conversations that all go to this is the
direction that things are going and you can be at the forefront of a movement or you can
be left behind.
But at the end of the day, I think what this does is it also holds me accountable to being
attached to the space.
It holds me, um, almost captive, if you will, to the people that, you know, believed in me
and I don't want to let them.
So I think that in a nutshell is kind of what that, what that is or what that looks like
for me.
I think this is a, it's a format change in anybody doing anything in this space.
Um, you know, it shouldn't be a fly by night temporary thing.
It shouldn't be a bang up job.
It should be something that is with some form of foundation and structure and leadership
and the idea that it's not going to be gone tomorrow and that it is permanent and it is
immutable and it will be here forever.
So leave a legacy with building a legacy brand with yourself after age 25, like a legacy brand
is 25 years.
So if you're entering the chain for the first time and you're minting something for the
first time, think about how it will look 15, 20, 30 years.
I'd love to look back a bit.
This project allowed for me to connect with 555 people from all over the world, from all walks
of life, um, and bring them into an ecosystem that did something to impact their life.
And I guess, well, you know, we love it.
We love a doc.
No, no, no.
This is great.
I love a doc's creator.
And I also wonder like, do you know what you're doing by opening Pandora's box of all these
people having access to you?
That's I'm slightly concerned, but I'm also really excited and you've covered a lot in what
you've already shared.
And I want to just kind of go back and recap for, for, you know, everyone that's here today,
just the role utility is going to play specifically in social currency, just maybe some bullet points,
if you will, um, or plans that you have as well as anything with other projects where you
have, you know, executed any drop, can drop, um, uh, mechanics in terms of utility.
So like, what are those main ones that we're going to look forward to with social currency?
Yeah.
I mean, I have, uh, a followup to this that's coming out soon, uh, which are tokens of appreciation.
The tokens will be dropped to all of the holders of social currency and both of those things
combined will give access to a wealth of resources and tools that will help anybody, literally
anybody, uh, have an advantage in life.
Because at the end of the day, we go through life just picking up tools along the way.
Uh, we take advice from others, we watch videos and tutorials and, you know, every single client
that I'm consulting for and every project I'm advising for, I noticed the lack of tools.
I noticed like a lot of things that just aren't there.
People are used to like, uh, Trello or Asana or MailChimp or Constant Contact, but do they
use Streak and, or Boomerang or Superhuman or Monday?
Like, do they know when people are opening their emails?
Do they have any automation attached to their pipelines or funnels?
Do they know how to set up pixels and heat maps to see who's visiting their websites and
from there?
Do they even have a website?
And do they know a shortcut of making one outside of going to WordPress with PostWare
space?
You know, these are all different fundamental tools that every creator should have as well
as curators and collectors.
There's different things that can expedite the way that we move through life.
So, you know, I'm, I'm looking at my, my niche has always been providing the opportunity
of accessibility and availability, assisting anyone, anywhere to get anything at any time
within reason.
I've always been a go for this, go for that.
So, you know, these, the future of these things is basically creating this giant resource pot
and pool that will be a missing piece to the puzzle of your dreams.
It will help you fill in the blank, dot the I, cross the T, and be a support system.
And it will be a direct entry into the New Friendship Tech ecosystem, which I am turning
into a conference.
So New Friendship Tech's ecosystem, those that have their social tokens in their wallet
from social currency, they're going to have special benefits, perks, and access to things.
They might end up with a $3,000, $4,000 VIP ticket so they're going to be attached to
the conference or one of the 30 or 40 after-party centers.
And the fact of the matter is that if you look at my history just in the last six months,
New Friendship Tech, I've produced events in Chicago, LA.
New York, Miami, and Vegas, five major metropolitan cities in the United States, all of those events
have been completely free, free entry, free drinks, free food, free education, free entertainment.
All the video capture from all of those is living on chain in a metaverse.
All of the people that have been in attendance that have given their wallet address, they will
get access to that metaverse so they can get this educational information and content free,
unobstructed, uncensored, and that no advertisements, no risk of platform shutdowns or my account being
closed.
But the goal for me is accessibility and availability to all of this stuff on demand.
When you go to these conferences that have $1,500, $3,000 ticket fees, that's not accessible.
And so the way I'm building my conference as well is general admission being completely
free, VIP will have its cost, and I'll make my money in other ways.
And then by all the wealth of addresses that I'm getting through this event, I can redistribute
wealth to all of those people, taking a portion of the net profits of the event and redistributing
that to the attendees after we do the LPM.
And that's all tied into this whole model.
So even by supporting social currency, you're also supporting New Friendship Tech.
And by supporting New Friendship Tech, you're also supporting social currency because that's
directly correlated to me and my personal career to development and success in the space.
So it's really just like a healthy, mutually beneficial cycle that I've created here.
I've put in the work to make sure that there isn't an agency in the world with equal or
better offerings and credibility.
I'm building an easy button for obtaining and achieving anything with dues paid and skin
in the game.
And I can do that.
There's no one-size-fits-all blanket solutions here.
And we're understanding that more and more on Web3 as we try to chip away at this iceberg
of ratio to figure things out and make better solutions to worse problems.
And, you know, that's what I'm looking to do with New Friendship Tech being the leading
conference in the blockchain world, as well as fixing some socioeconomic and geopolitical
issues, utilizing this revolutionary technology in the digital renaissance.
Jeez.
Well, I love that these are all interconnected, which I find fascinating.
I think it's like something that as creators in the space should think about that, you know,
daisy-chaining our projects, if you will, so people can kind of keep up.
I mean, I hope people are taking notes, because if you're like me, I've just turned into that
meme of that woman doing all the calculations and the trigonometry.
So I think it's important to kind of, like, step back and reevaluate what it is we're doing
in the space and how we can, like, expand and think about our future.
So I really appreciate you kind of giving us, like, a little mini master class and, like,
behind sort of the trajectory of the project and, like, where you want to take it.
And my question here is, I mean, we're going to wrap up pretty soon, but how are you going
to reconcile your schedule and your time now that you're just kind of, you know, taking
on this really what I would consider large endeavor?
Yeah, I mean, to run an agency and to also be on-air talent, to be, I guess, a mover and
shaker, if you will, or whatever it is, like, you have to be able to delegate, you have to
be able to project manage, you have to be able to move efficiently and effectively to make
the most out of every situation that you're in.
So, for example, even in Miami, I hosted Decentral Con on the 28th and 29th.
Right after hosting Decentral Con, I ended up rapping and DJing at night and also producing
events every night.
So, you know, I'm booked three times a day, seven days a week, and I'm still in Miami right
now because I chose to extend my stay, which means that things in LA that we do today, as
far as in-person goes, had to be turned into Zoom calls and Google Hangouts and phone calls.
But it's all about efficiency and, you know, being pragmatic and methodical with your planning.
And also not overthinking.
So, you know, a lot of people will think themselves into not doing anything, and that's, it's really
unfortunate to see because, you know, if you're afraid of the unknown, that fear, that fuck
everything and run, or false evidence appearing real, that fear prevents so many people from
moving forward and going off to their goals and dreams.
And I think that, once again, around accountability, like this project forces me to hold myself
accountable to being available for these people that are holding these things, and also kind
of figuring out how I can constantly challenge myself to create new opportunities for people's
beautiful thoughts and ideas to be translated and brought to life.
It's literally all I'm doing.
And I'm listening to people, and then I'm thinking about what is the most effective and
efficient and impactful way with minimal costs that I can help them reach their goals.
That level of being a practitioner, that's something that Tony Robbins does.
That's something that Gary Vaynerchuk does.
That's something that some of my coaches and mentors that I've seen in life do.
And it's really incredible.
And, you know, it only becomes easier as you get bigger and add more support and more resources.
And, you know, I've been very blessed and lucky in life to have a lot of that at this
point.
When I dropped out of high school at 16, I failed my first three businesses, failed because
of business partners with bad integrity, ethics, and me not knowing how to protect myself legally.
So now I have legal, right?
So it's just, it's really a matter of that leadership, that structure of foundation, patience,
humility, acceptance, strength, and, you know, having purpose and passion and the potential
to change the world, living in your mind and heart, knowing that, you know, we understand
humility comes before honor.
And it's very honorable to create things that you have no intention other than the best interest
of the person that you want to go with.
So, yeah.
So, time management, that's it.
Time management, efficiency, and the greater good of, like, can I actually do this for
this person?
And if I can't, what are the repercussions?
Well, please remember to hydrate and everybody in the room because get some sleep, hydrate
if you want to be on the level that Eric at Motivate is on.
I'm on three IVs.
You should see me right now.
I look like I'm about to go in a chirogenic chamber with three IVs.
And I'm also downing alcohol at the same time as the IV drip.
So, it's really, you know.
Well, minus the alcohol, the other modalities you have chose really do keep people alive
and keep people on the go.
So, definitely check out that.
That's for another space.
But I did want to bring some folks up since we're kind of nearing towards the top of the
hour.
So, if anybody would like to request to come up now and has a question or comment, please
feel free to do so now.
If not, forever hold that request to yourself.
You know, while we're bringing some friends up, there's a question that I've been asking
to our last few guests.
And I want to, we're bringing some one up, but I do want to ask this last question to
you.
Do you consider yourself a trailblazer and with that, a role model?
And, and if so, how do you feel about that?
I mean, I've never really enjoyed labels or tags.
I feel like they would give a narrative or an impression that somebody is better than somebody
else.
When realistically, like the person that could be making paintings their whole life could
have been a top 10 billboard credit music artist.
And the top 10 billboard music artist could also be like an award-winning composer.
So, so I really think that like, like, I don't even call my interns interns.
I call my interns assistants.
And then after that, after maybe a week of them working as my quote unquote assistant,
I call them partners because I don't like assistants, you know?
And then I call them business partners because technically they're partners to my business
and my business is myself, right?
Eric Spivick LLC, your conduit LLC, New French and Tech LLC, whatever it may be.
In the same way as you have Diddy, Sean Combs, Puff Daddy, Yay, Yeezy, all, all these different
examples of multiple monikers and names that are their own entities.
And I think at the end of the day, um, if you start listening to what people are saying
about who you are, then you start to think that you are that.
And that's not necessarily the best way to go, in my opinion.
Um, I look at myself as a good person doing good things for good people.
I have people way, way vastly more quote unquote successful.
Uh, and I guess, however we define success being different, but, you know, seven figure earners,
celebrities, athletes, musicians, diplomats that are at the top of the world, um, telling me
that I've made it and me telling them I'm nowhere close to where I want to be.
And then they try to reinforce that I'm there.
And I'm like, I'm really not like, I'm not where I want to be.
So until I'm where I want to be, no label or tag is going to put me into a box and define
who I am or what I do and why I do it.
And I think that's, that's kind of why I really, I pride myself in just being humble and being
real and being honest and being able to also show, show some skin and vulnerability and
really, you know, I've had a near fatal car accident in 2016.
I was on a bed rest for two, two and a half years, give or take, uh, leg surgery, hip surgery,
heart surgery, health rib cages, fractured, addicted to painkillers, $800,000 worth of medical
surgery from Cedars-Syman Hospital in Los Angeles by the best hospitals in the nation.
I lost fucking everything, um, including my business at that time.
Um, all of my money, everything.
And then I've also been to jail like three times in the same month for something I didn't
do and had proof that I didn't do it.
And I can't sue Los Angeles police department.
So, you know, it's just like hit you with these different curve balls and be out there
well, with the punches and let them dodge and, you know, understand that, um, your current
reality is only temporary.
Whatever you're going through as far as obstruction and adversity, like, this too will pass.
And there's always someone who can do something better or worse than you.
And you can always say that you've done more for less.
You can always say that about any situation.
If you're questioning doing something, like, ask yourself the question, like, have I done
anything like this before for less?
And more than likely you have it.
And so, yeah.
Love it.
So with respect to Motivate's time, we have some people on stage really quickly.
Remember, this is not a chill zone unless you are the guest and that guest is Motivate.
So feel free to raise your hand, um, but please wait to be called on and be polite and respectful
of the space and our guests.
And again, keep it short and sweet.
Want to be respectful of, um, our guests time.
And also just really quick though, Motivate, you know, there's a lot of women in the space
right now as I'm looking down and you mentioned a lot of entrepreneurs and men.
Is there a woman in particular that has motivated you or inspired you and is just kicking ass
right now?
Oh, come on.
That, that is an unfair question because there are women.
Just a few.
One, a few.
I mean.
Any one.
You know.
You put, hey, hey, hey, you said Gary.
You said Gary.
You said this guy.
You said that guy.
You gotta, gotta give us a few chicks.
Oh, I love Queen Latifah.
I love AOC.
I love, um, I mean, there's Venus and Serena.
I love Sade.
I love witnessing Peggy Goo's journey.
Um, you know, Venus X.
She's a boss.
I was grateful to have her on stage with guys of Empire Records, uh, talking about all
of this stuff.
You know, there's John Lee.
There's Katrina.
There's Art Jedi.
There's, uh, Sarah.
There's Claire.
There's all the women in Rome.
I mean, literally I have so much love and appreciation and respect for so many of the women in this
space, uh, because they are already facing an uphill battle and going against the odds.
And I hear a lot of the negative side of, like, having to navigate the space that you
are the minority.
And I've always fought for minority groups in my marginalized communities.
You know, one of the reasons that I started a women's collective called Daughters, the
showcase for today's Women of Tomorrow, was because I was managing female talent and I
was developing female artists and these girls were not getting the same rate of pay as the
men.
And it was pissing me off because of a lot of reasons outside of gender inequality.
But, you know, again, instead of getting angry, I took action and I built Daughters LA.
And, uh, that showcase for today's Women of Tomorrow changed the lives of over 150 women.
Like two of them got to play Coachella.
One of them got signed to a crazy record deal.
Like one's, uh, book release turned into an Amazon, uh, New York Times bestseller.
And, like, I just, I can't say enough positive things.
Even, like, Shepard Perry's, uh, wife, um, got, uh, them to sponsor one of the events with
Obey Women's and I threw, like, a 1,500-person women's rave and, uh, all-female lineup in
downtown Los Angeles.
Like, I look at these lineups for music festivals and I look at these stages and these panels
and I, like, in my head, reprogram them for what I think would be true diversity and
inclusion.
And so, at the end of the day, like, my mom is my greatest motivator.
I saw her work her ass off nights, weekends, holidays, and essentially, like, leaving me
to raise myself in a lot of ways.
And, you know, I don't want to see that, like, be a norm.
And unfortunately, it is.
So, I'm all about, you know, women's rights and empowerment and I'll always be an advocate
and an activist and an artist that's pushing for that.
Like, if you don't like women, youth, elderly, animals, or disabled people, then I'm definitely
not somebody that you should support or get behind whatsoever because that's where my
money is redistributed to.
So, yeah.
Love it.
Thank you for answering that.
Okay.
So, we've got the first person who had their hand up was Droz, I believe.
And then, I believe it was Jeremy.
And then we have Kaz and K-A-Z and then our Jedi.
So, let's go in that order, please, friends.
Go ahead.
What's up?
What's up, Motivate?
What's up, Jessica?
Shout out to Jessica and Nifty Kit for making things easier for creators like me to do it
ourselves.
And my question for Motivate is, when it comes to NFT projects and NFT art, is art ever the utility?
Art is art, you know?
Art should be what it is, right?
Why should we expect more out of the art than what it is?
Does it inspire you?
Does it make you smile?
Does it tell you a story?
Does it warm your heart to see?
Does it add to your environment or atmosphere?
Does it cheer you up?
Does it make you run faster or jump higher?
Like, what more do we want out of the art other than it being authentic and real and moving
and pleasing to the heart and soul, right?
I think we put a lot of pressure on artists for no reason to go above and beyond when it
should just be, you know?
It's kind of like fashion.
If you overthink it and you do too much, it looks bad.
And if you don't do enough, then you're not stylish.
You're suddenly bland or boring.
And then you get typecast as not being like something else.
But you get to define that.
That's the beauty of art.
And I think art that lacks heart is temporary and fabricated and just for profit, you know?
But art that has heart in it and soul in it, you can feel.
And those vibrations are real.
And I surround myself with art and artists and creators and creativity at all times.
And I don't expect or hold them to some standard of having their work roll up into a ball and
set itself on fire and transform into a dragon and take you away into a land that you've never
seen.
So, yeah.
I think that's β I think the art is good enough as it is.
Just let it be, you know?
Beautiful.
Thanks.
Thanks for that.
Jeremy, what's up?
Hey, thanks, Jessica.
Great talk.
Thank you for hosting.
Shout out to Nifty Kid.
What's up, Eric?
Good to see you.
Yeah, a lot of gems here.
As you know, I'm a big fan.
I'm into the project.
Since I heard about it, I'm looking forward to that collaboration.
I wanted to just ask you a question about creatives who struggle with the administrative
side, the management side.
That's always been a pitfall for me.
And if the answer to sort of get over those hurdles is hiring, like, what are some do's
and don'ts that you've seen work for artists as they're trying to, like, level up their
throughput and their consistency throughout their artistic process, which is generally
a little chaotic?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, one thing that's really helped me is looking at the reality that everything that
you do leaves a fingerprint or a footprint or a template behind.
Everything you do.
And if you want to learn anything in the world, it's that model.
It's that pattern and template that you can follow.
So, it's kind of like a tracing paper technique.
In school, you learn to draw a turkey by tracing your hand.
Eventually, you don't need your hand to draw that turkey.
If you want to teach somebody how to rap, you know, tell them to learn the lyrics of
a song that they really like and an artist that they really like.
And then, once those lyrics are memorized, sing or, sorry, rap that song over the lyrics
of that artist.
So, then you learn tempo.
You learn voice inflection.
You learn rhyme schemes and patterns innately.
Your voice is different from their voice, but you're going to pick this up as you go.
And eventually, you can move their lyrics from the screen because you have them memorized
and you don't need them anymore.
And then, eventually, you can get rid of their voice and just rap it over the instrumental.
And then, after that, you can change the instrumental and challenge yourself to adopt different beats
and different instrumentals without those same lyrics that somebody else wrote.
That's going to teach you the β it's going to train you to become better and more flexible
and streamlined with delivering that.
So, I use that kind of technique to growth hack people in a lot of ways in a lot of industries.
And I think looking at what you're looking to accomplish and what you've done previously
or looking at accomplishing something new and how somebody else got there, you can break
that down into a template and really reverse engineer their product for their project and
then see how you can improve and streamline that process to a point that you can give it to
someone else.
The less hand-holding and training wheels and helicopter doubting that you have to do, the better.
So, I like to look at it like the 80-20 rule and focus on the 20%.
And with this situation of, like, really enabling people to be able to take the ball and run with it,
let them shadow you one time or let them look at your process one time or two times
and then see how far along that process from 20% to 80% or 100% that they can get in order to do it.
And eventually, they'll be able to do the whole thing on their own.
And then you can get more people to train in that manner.
And then if that process of training works, you can also take that template and then you can delegate
and give that template to other people, which is what onboarding and orientation is in a lot of your jobs, right?
They give you a training manual, they have you watch a video, they give you a tour of the campus or the workspace or whatever.
They sit you with somebody else for a few days that does a job that you're trying to do.
And then you learn from them different ways of doing it, maybe faster or better, or you have your own way.
But at the end of the day, you're following in other people's footsteps if it's something that's already been done.
And if it isn't something that's already been done before, just document every step of the way into sections
and break it down and make it digestible and duplicatable.
That way, you can have others take it off.
Really great stuff. Thanks.
Thank you for your question.
Go ahead.
And the other part, as far as hiring goes and finding those people and sourcing those people,
I used to literally make like 30, 40 Craigslist posts in multiple cities and have all of those inbound interests go into a brand new inbox.
And then I would go through them.
I'd bring all those people together into a Zoom call or a Google Hangout and do a group interview, so to speak,
because they wouldn't respond if they weren't interested in the first place.
But giving them that full transparency of what you're looking to do, when you're looking to do it,
by why you're looking to do it, what your personal why is, and what your rate or budget is for them.
Or if there's an alternative situation that they can be compensated for, whether that's experience,
whether that's network, whether that's visibility, awareness, whatever that trait is.
But at the end of the day, like cast a wider net and think about, you know, increased impact, decrease in print.
And there's so many hungry and talented individuals out there that just need a shot and just need an opportunity.
So there's a good chance that whatever you're looking to hire for or whatever industry that it is,
there's a bunch of other people with similar ideas that would be more than happy to work with you
and building yours before building theirs.
Because a lot of people have fail starts or fail to starts because of like obstruction to take that first step.
So if you take that first step, there's a good chance you'll have other people following behind you
and interested in helping you take 10 more.
Love it. Thank you.
So we have Kaz and then we have Art Jedi.
Hi, thanks for having me on.
Great to be here.
I want to say, Eric, the new Friendship Tech LA in March was the first IRL event I went to.
I'd just gotten into Web3.
And that was big for me.
Like, it was insane.
I met Doc Peace and Lauren Turton and I've been going to their spaces since then.
I spit a pitch at the Harmony One pitch and got some Harmony out of that.
I didn't know how to get it out of my account.
So I still have it.
But yeah, it was an amazing event.
And I wanted to ask you, because one of the things that I have really worked on understanding
and struggled with in my Web3 journey is the fact that I have autism.
And for me, it really is very heavy with sensory impact and social navigation and crowds.
So there were some things at, even at a, you know, new Friendship Tech, even though it was
much less impactful and less crowded than a full NFTLA would have been, that were just
overwhelming for me.
And I'm curious if you would be down to plan an onboarding event that's specifically geared
towards neurodivergent people and towards individuals that have disabilities and sensory
needs or physical needs that normal venues might not be able to handle, that having, you
know, the DJ with the pumping music might be too overwhelming.
And I'm really down to help with this.
I've got about 13 years back to back and then another two to three years scattered after
that experience and education and event planning.
So I'm more than happy to give my personal experience and knowledge as an autistic person
with helping make that event happen.
But just, you know, curious if you're down to make some magic, even though I don't have
the spiv bucks quite yet.
No, a hundred percent.
I mean, I think we as consumers need to be conscious of our decision making.
And if we are supporting things that we are being just as mindful when we're supporting them
as we are when we are creating them.
So that level of self-awareness comes down to the experience design, right?
If your event does not have ramps for people in wheelchairs to get up, like, that's a problem
for me.
If you have inaccessible places that only specific types of people can be in, that's
inaccessibility to me.
If it is too loud and you have no way for people to get the information inside from outside,
that's a problem for me.
So, you know, I'm absolutely about that.
I've worked with a handful of people with autism and neuro, I mean, I'm pretty neurodivergent
myself if you watch me move.
But at the end of the day, like, there's all these different forms of social anxiety and
introversion and just a lot of different, like, mental and physical conditions that need
to be catered to in these events.
That's why we have ADA.
That's why we have, you know, people doing sign language at the sides of the stage.
That's why we do silent discos.
And that's why we do sound baths and different types of techniques to help people focus on
different parts of their life that, you know, enhance their experiences where otherwise they
could be diluted or basically just ignored.
So, yeah, I'm all about that.
And I ball for it.
Like, I don't know how else to say it.
Like, and I do, like I said, my focus with these events is, like, helping women, youth,
elderly, animals, disabled.
Like, that's what my entire life has been on.
It's a passion project with focus and leading with philanthropy and giving back and social
impact first.
And, you know, I think the space can do a tremendous amount of good for people in those
communities and groups that I just mentioned, as well as fix some really, really sad and
rough humanitarian things happening in the world.
So, yeah.
Beautiful.
Thank you, Eric.
I'll send you a DM and we can talk more because, you know, I'm in L.A. and whenever you get
back, I know you're a busy man, but my schedule is, my calendar is open.
I'm here on Twitter and I'm doing the work of making the art and trying to build my own
network and my own company.
So, whenever you got the time, I'm down to chop it up, have some coffee, get a sandwich,
whatever.
We can just, you know, talk about it like real people.
Yep.
It's all good.
I mean, I'm definitely way more accessible than I should be.
And I don't know if my social currency tokens had even more accessibility to me.
But at the end of the day, like, that's the point.
This, for me, is a fun social experiment as well.
Like, this is me seeing if I can bat 10 for 10 or shoot 100 for 100 from the half court
with my eyes closed and one hand behind my back.
Like, I'm really gas, gas pedal, all gas, no brakes, pushing the idea of giving my time
to others in a multitude of ways and seeing if that's a sustainable thing.
And for most people, it isn't.
But for someone like me, like, I'm constantly firefighting.
I literally wake up in the morning, clear my queue of phone calls and text messages,
WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord, social.
And then I start my day sometimes.
But most of the time, I don't even touch any of that until I've, like, meditated and made
a conscious effort to knock out my routine before dealing with any of the firefighting.
And I think it's important for everybody to have their space and have their time.
But I also think it's important for people to allow themselves to be accessible and open
to hearing other people's thoughts, concerns, criticism, as well as, like, their compliments
and their feedback and their positive reinforcement.
So you have to be able to take it all in, the good, the bad, the ugly, and everything in
between.
Love it.
Well, thank you for your question, Kaz.
We're going to move to Art Jedi, and then we're going to close it out with Erin.
Hey, I kind of forgot what I wanted to say, but I wanted to come and say hello.
There's so many things have been said, and I kind of have a comment on everything.
But first of all, I met Eric, gave me a big, big hug.
Met twice, in fact.
Once at the brunch across the bridge and once at Beyond Basel, where my art was curated
curated by Trippi Labs, which was amazing.
Eric, it was so good to see you, finally, after two years.
And I am one of the currency token holders, so I think it just goes to...
I've lost my voice, guys.
Sorry, but if you can't hear me or if I sound too sexy.
I wanted to say a couple of things about art and utility being an artist for pretty much
all my life, but dedicated artist for 15 years in the traditional art world and for two years
here in Web3.
And I've seen how things have evolved and how it's taking shape and the struggle of artists,
not just from artists' perspective, but also from collectors' perspective, because I am one.
Art is the utility.
Art is the utility.
Art is the utility.
It's people who believe in artists.
It's very different from these PFP collections and all of the mega collections of thousands
of people coming together and believing in something.
An artist needs to kind of carve their way, and it's much harder.
But at the same time, what people forget and kind of bundle it up with the same thing as
utility is building those relationships with your collectors.
As somebody who's taken my time to put my work out there and now has, I think, about less
than 100 collectors, because I just have very few works on the blockchain at the moment, but
somebody who's working towards gaining thousands of collectors or millions of collectors.
My dream is to have my art in the hundreds of billions of people and my name to be a household
in the best loved and respected way.
It's a hard work, and you have to build your relationships with those collectors, and that's
very different from utility, how people are bundling up.
So maybe we need to think about these things.
If somebody's bought your work for $10 or $20 or $100 or $1,000 or $10,000 or $100,000,
it doesn't matter.
Someone put $10 on you, they deserve just as much respect as somebody who's spent thousands
of dollars on you.
So you need to think about these things as an artist.
And I think these conversations are really useful.
I don't know, I think as somebody else talked about, like as a woman in the space and somebody
who's lost a lot in life and gained my way back to life.
I admire people like Motivate, people like Logic.
I met Logic as well at Miami, which is great, and Mike Mungo.
Jessica, I didn't get to see you.
But anyway, I just wanted to come in and hello and, yeah, share my love.
Always appreciate you, Art Jedi.
No, I did not get to see you.
That was an absolutely crazy trip.
Next time, hopefully in New York or East Denver.
I don't know where you're going to be next, but always appreciate you supporting and coming
in and always adding value.
With respect to Motivate's time, let's just take one more person.
We got Aaron up here.
A lot of pressure on you, Aaron.
This better be good.
I'm just kidding.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
Eric, I was just wondering, what's been bringing you joy lately amongst all of this pressure
of continuing to create every day and continuing to put work out there and just continuing this
path so what may look like so effortless from the outside.
But what brings you joy in these times?
That is a good question.
And honestly, if you asked it to me a few months back when I did that interview for Good, I'd
be curious if it's different.
But I also would love to hear that interview now to see how consistent my responses have
been to things.
I, you know, I find joy and happiness in helping others.
I live to serve.
I absolutely positively love watching people win and being a part of that process and that
journey and that path.
So, you know, I take pride in throwing events where I'm putting talent on stages that are
getting discovered and then signing life-changing opportunity deals.
You know, I love being the first person to do something and then get recognized for that
with a certificate or the award.
But on the same token, like, no pun intended, I also take pride and joy and find happiness
and just being.
You know, I really, any room that I'm in, any city that I'm in, I really admire so much
of the beauty that is in my surroundings at all times from the aesthetic of the decor and
design and the thoughtfulness that's put into building the hotel that I'm in right now or
the restaurant that I came from last night or the details of different things.
Like, I really just, I love life and all parts of it.
I've faced death already.
I've lost everything already multiple times over.
So I don't really have anything to lose.
I have everything to gain and I have nothing to prove and everything to share.
So it just makes me feel really good and warm inside to know that a lot of what I share
typically has a positive result that's visible and tangible.
And I might not hear about it the day of or the week from now or months from now, but
somehow, someway, it always manages to come back to me.
And I really like to lead by example and showcasing that even if you don't have anything to gain
from doing something good, somehow, someway, it's going to come back to you.
And I'm a firm believer of that.
So I like to reinforce the ideas of faith and hope, not attached to or contingent with any
narrative of any religious or spiritual entity, but just in life itself, having hope and faith
that, you know, tomorrow's a new day and there's always room for improvement.
There's always room for growth.
There's always opportunities to better ourselves and those around us.
And, you know, if you're a good person doing good things for good people, it should be reflective
in the company you keep and the environment you're in and your journey through life.
It's not that difficult.
It's not that hard to be a good person.
And too many people are out here trying to be hard when they need to focus on being solid.
And that's what I like around me.
And that's what I try to not even try.
I don't even like using that word.
That's what I do.
I'm solid and reliable and accountable and here.
That is a beautiful sentiment to add on.
But I see, Archetta, you have your hand up real quickly.
And we're going to close it out because you've gone over.
Please.
Yeah, real quick.
Sure.
I just want to come back because I did hear moderate unmute and then, I don't know, conversation
kind of move on.
I want to ask, first of all, to my point, like, how do you advise artists to build relationships
with their collectors?
In your experience, like, what's the best way?
Ask questions.
Ask questions to get answers.
Find out what they want to know.
Why they bought the work.
What excites them about it.
Why?
The why is everything, right?
So asking questions to get answers will help you figure out direction.
And that direction will automatically and organically create momentum.
And that momentum will start building that bond and relationship and rapport that ideally
can last a lifetime if it makes sense to.
And if it doesn't, that's okay, too.
Some people buy things that are temporary and rent things because they don't want to
own them, you know.
And then some people hold on to things forever.
My mom is somebody like that where she'll buy a book for two sentences in that book and
hold on forever to that book for those two sentences as opposed to clipping them from
the book and throwing the book aside or giving it to somebody else.
But we all have our motives and we all have reasons why we do things or ask me questions.
My daughter is like that.
My daughter is like that.
She's a whore as well.
Thank you, Motivate.
And thank you, Jessica.
So much love to everybody in this room.
And thank you for the questions, everybody and everybody who, you know, came and participated.
And I hope you guys took notes.
Very excited to have you in the space today and appreciate you taking the time to be with
So thanks, everybody, for joining us.
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Have a great day, everyone.
Thank you so much for being here.
And we'll see you tomorrow.
I learned life is hell
Living in the world no different for myself
Every day I escape from takes, give a take
Selling bass, smoking rolls in a staircase
No, I don't know why I told you so obsessed
I guess that's the time when I'm not depressed
But I'm still depressed
And I ask, what's your work?
Ready to give up so I see the old earth
Who explain what your heart may help you maintain
To learn to overcome the heartaches and pain
You got to speak up kids, give up cops and black rocks
Space out, all of the rock and stains
Leave it up to me while I be living through
To keep control to the young black youth
