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Artz Friday
Recorded: June 6, 2025 Duration: 1:12:42Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion on Artsy Friday, artists Limbo Universe and Retro Manny explored the dynamic growth of the Tezos ecosystem, highlighting new projects like the 'Nostalgia 2000' mixtape and the importance of partnerships in enhancing the music scene. They also addressed the impact of AI on artistic expression and the significance of community support through initiatives like the Tezos CRP.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Welcome, welcome to another artsy Friday.
We're going to get things set up here.
We got some great music to get things set up here. We got some great music
to get things started. And then when Limbo Universe gets here, I'm very, very excited
to chat and talk. Hey, Limbo, welcome. Thank you for being here. We'll get you up on the
stage here in a second. I was just saying we're about to play some opening music just
to set the vibe and then we will get to chatting. I'm really excited to talk to you. All right, so this first song today that we want to play for y'all,
and thank you again for being here, Randall and Bill,
and make sure to retweet the room.
We're going to play y'all this song called Good to Know by Grace and Bad Love,
plus visual art that you can, we'll pin it to the top that you can check out.
It's really amazing work.
Chernobyl Apple is the name of the visual piece within the art.
And we'll put the link at the top.
Really amazing piece.
Hope you enjoy. Why is it so hard to say no? I've got to know straight up that you waste my time.
Be careful from the get-go. If you don't flow, you don't flow.
I'll just self-continue, it's about sharing, not ego.
It's enough, it's enough, it's enough.
And if you want it, you'll get it somehow.
I'll do it.
When it is out suddenly going on tonight, don't always know what to do, but it feels right, so I give it my best shot.
It is awesome and go on tonight.
I gotta keep it light and smoky, they said he is the way.
They said he is away
And I know I'm gonna get here someday
Here is where the magic plays These complications, I need some patience.
Hold on, don't take advantage.
Improvisation, my medication.
Inside these four walls.
In adversities, when you see.
Looms we're keeping round. Good to know, good to know, good to know
And if you want it, you'll get it somehow
I'll do it, it evolves and let go
I won't deny it, don't always know what to do
But it feels right
So I give it my best shot
I gotta keep it light and smoky
Instead he is awake
And I know I'm gonna get this someday
Here is where my magic day Leaving behind the page, finding a way from assault and saying, yeah, Endless possibility
Endless possibility
Leaving behind the pain
Finding your grateful soul to sing again
Endless possibility
Endless possibility possibility oh that's such a vibe oh one of my favorite things i've heard in a while i gotta admit and what's really interesting is i found it had to choose it for today because i knew everybody
would love it as much as i did but they don't have any x accounts linked unfortunately so please please go to the object check it out
experience it in person and the one link that is there is for musical web 3 which I believe is like
the I guess the production studio that's doing the mints for these artists and there is a new
mixtape that this is part of called nostalgia 2000 really really cool
to see music dropping on uh tezos at a more frequent rate gets me very excited and i um also
caught when uh looking at limbo's work that there's there's some music in limbo's art so um
thank you so much for being here today how are you you today, Lembo? Hello. I'm very glad to be here and thanks for having me.
Just amazing. I love the tune.
Pretty incredible, really.
It really kind of blew me away. I've listened to it like five, six times now.
Yeah, this is my first time, but it won't be the last because uh surely it surely
yeah uh got me also um yeah i i was vibing a lot a lot to the tune and yeah uh i i never heard heard something like that minted on chain so yeah on object so I'm gonna check out more of these
tunes and the mixtape too and yeah I'm fine thank you by the way I'm in Italy I'm from Italy and
I'm in Italy right now it's a a sunny day, sunny evening, all good.
Very excited about this conversation.
Me too.
And this something just happened that doesn't typically happen.
So just we're going to pause for a second
before we dive into your interview
because Grace and Bad Love just hopped up to speak we were just
talking about how much we admire this song that we've discovered and i couldn't find you earlier
on twitter so thank you for being here how are you today i got the memo and i joined as soon as i
could uh to thank everyone for for listening listening to the song I'm yeah
very very very beautiful song thank you absolutely uh we've pinned the work to the top
and um this is something we do every artsy fr Friday to start it off and to finish is play a song by a musician or band or group that's minting on object.
So it's a real pleasure to have you here. And it was an absolute pleasure to start the vibe that way.
Wonderful. Thank you. It was my first mint. Thanks to Musica W3.
So thanks to that team that made me part of Drop so super excited
to keep learning
about this space and
sharing music
this way it's pretty cool
absolutely
and we will be booking some
more future dates here
on RT Friday and
I would love to chat with you about
your background and what brings you to Tezos and a little bit more about Musical Web 3. So thank
you for hopping up. Thank you, guys. Absolutely. I'll reach out to you and hope you'll stick around
and listen to us chat with Limbo today.
Sure thing. I'm here.
Appreciate you.
Congress on my side, by the way.
I love the tune.
Incredible production and, yeah, vocal execution also.
Everything was just perfect, even the instrumental.
So, amazing. So so oh my goodness like
i i'm just like so happy to start the the show that way and i'm so happy with like the gym thread
this week everybody should tweet out that gym thread and we're going to talk about some of the
pieces in there later um and uh
appreciate everybody being here for another artsy friday appreciate tesla's commons for making it
possible kryptonio for being an excellent dj i don't know what you've done but that was some of
the best uh playback i've heard on x twitter if i'm being honest probably had something to do with
the awesome song and it's mixed too but wow that was just awesome but uh today we are here to learn more about limbo and his story and his
experience as an artist some workflow well really whatever limbo wants to talk about to um you know
get the word out on what he's creating so with that being said would you like to give us a little bit more of like an initial introduction?
Yeah, sure. Well, basically, I consider myself mostly an illustrator and a comic artist.
And secondly, I'm also involved with music as a passion.
I play music, I have a band, but I also sometimes, as you were saying before, sometimes create soundtracks for my pieces.
Yeah, I just have these interests that went along with me my whole life, basically.
And yeah, I started on Tezos in 2021.
More of something more like a joke.
And then it became very important to me
as an incredible staple of my actual artistic career
and life path uh yeah um it actually changed uh my life uh in
many ways uh and yeah i'm currently i'm currently involved with many activities uh one One of this is pretty new to me because I started,
I'm about to start teaching in a school in my hometown.
And I will teach illustration and comics, basically.
It's not going to be, it's just a workshop right now but i hope i hope that some
doors some more doors corridor doors will open uh in that direction and yeah alongside nfts i also
have published some books uh i i made illustrations for some graphic novels which weren't written by
me usually they are biographic graphic novels about people famous people like
some examples are the artist Banksy Andyhol, and in recent times, unfortunately for me, or maybe fortunately for
some other people, I was asked to illustrate a book about Harry Styles, which I don't like that
much as an artist, but yeah, it happens, so I made that too, uh alongside that i i create my comics uh i have plans to
publish some very weird stories and what you see in terms of my digital works they are sometimes sometimes you know the most intimate and the most personal pieces I can create
which aren't related to commissioned work of course so this is basically a
general overview of myself that's amazing And I imagine that when it comes to the physical realm, you know, doing comic books and commissions
and stuff like that, did that come as part of your background in learning art and like
getting to where you are before you started mincing on Web3?
before you started mincing on Web3?
Yeah, kind of, because I remember it almost went,
it almost happened altogether,
because 2020 to 2021 were very intense years for me,
despite, of course, COVID happening.
But maybe even for that, I was kind of blessed with many good things happening in my life.
Yeah, and so I found myself working on my first book that was meant to be published and starting my NFT career path basically over the same months.
But before that, I remember starting out after finishing.
after finishing, yeah, after studying in a comic school,
Yeah.
I remember practicing commissions, working with Fiverr, for example,
sites like Fiverr, but also, of course, locally here in Italy
for some clients, and, yeah, trying to understand how to figure,
trying to figure out how the commercial
aspect of this job worked and so it went handy when I came to NFTs because I almost I think I
had that kind of discipline that allowed me to actually follow some with with some consistency uh some
sort of yeah artistic expression i don't know if you can call it like that but it certainly went
handy um at least at the start um yeah definitely makes sense because when anybody looks at your work I would say
it's pretty quick a first impression that it's very refined and you know
considered and it just looks like it has experience behind it thank you thank you
so much for thinking thinking like that about my work, of course, it's always flattering to hear some compliments
about it. And yeah, it actually has some thoughts put into it and some detail, especially I think
the earliest work, which was Raster illustration specifically, it was very thought out and I was still kind of finding my place as
an illustrator or my style, my confidence. And so I wanted to prove that I was good
in some way to myself. But also, I feel like I had the need to prove it to others too, maybe.
prove it to others too maybe um and because also those illustrations some some of them
those pieces the first pieces were created under a lot of pressure because i was posting a lot of
on instagram and i was kind of trying to find a place amongst, you know, the worldwide illustrator scene,
place which I didn't find completely eventually
because I left at a certain stage and I went.
I basically just started using Twitter for a long time,
but, yeah, i was under pressure and so i made pieces that um yeah
were featuring a lot of detail i was very concerned with that aspect specifically so
yeah thank you man absolutely yeah when it comes to your earlier works on object um it's one of
the things i noticed right away is that it's a totally different
vibe than a lot of the more recent like retro comic animations that have their own charm but
when it comes to these earlier pieces it's um how do i say that it's one of the few times that i feel
like instead of seeing a progression in an artist's skills from the
earlier mints to the later mints it's more just like a progression in what you're wanting to
explore with like equal skill yeah and that's one of the reasons i've said in that thread like
make sure you scroll down guys because some of this some of this earlier work is um gave me FOMO frankly it's like man
I wish I was around to snag some of these kind of thing I remember when those pieces dropped
it was crazy around around here in the space uh because there were a lot of incredible artists of course around we were yeah the bull
was of course running around the crypto scene and so there was a very interesting atmosphere
but I remember of course pricing those pieces very, very low.
And I don't remember how many editions I did,
but they were pretty low, especially the first ones,
first three or four ones. And then I saw, and I wasn't expecting that at all,
that some kind of hype was forming around the pieces that I was creating.
I also noticed that a lot of attention and interest came from American
or other side of the world audiences.
And yeah, I loved it, of course.
I was very, very happy about that
because it was actually the first time
that I saw the pieces being so, yeah,
exciting to anyone but me or my small Instagram audience.
And yeah, that made, of of course a big difference and yeah
regarding the style I'm very happy that you that you said that of course it went it's more about
yeah the exploration that I followed was more about maybe trying to convey some other things other than
focusing on drawing for a while and also trying different techniques because I kind of implemented
pixel art and maybe animation yeah other things uh in in the range of artistic possibilities that I could explore.
But I think, yeah, the evolution of the style kind of remains more or less the same.
Probably I didn't improve much in terms of drawing,
which I hope I will do eventually because...
Sorry. which I hope I will do eventually because, sorry.
I want to interrupt because I would say that, how do I say this?
Because I haven't seen more recent drawings, right?
Like as far as what you're presenting right now,
you've moved into more of the kind of pixel style of illustration
and it feels more digital in a sense uh right off the bat than the earlier pieces
so i would argue that if you shift and i'm not suggesting you should but i'm saying if you
shifted gears back to that style that you probably have improved by stepping out of that box and
experimenting elsewhere oh yeah uh i think that that that will happen. I
Think it's gonna happen. I don't know if sooner or later, but it's gonna happen for sure
And I'm curious myself. I'm actually working on a comic. It's been a while now, but I had a Kickstarter for a comic like
a year ago.
And I have these pages that I've been working on in that sort of, yeah, in that style, in the style that you were talking about from the earlier drawings.
And yeah, for sure, there's been a refinement and there have been new possibilities.
The only reason why maybe I thought about changing the style
and going towards a more digital, a more pixelated style
because of AI, basically.
of AI, basically. That's the only reason why I shifted. I kind of felt the need of trying
That's the only reason why I shifted.
something new, different, maybe even narrower from that, because around 2023, 20, yeah,
2022, 2023, when AI exploded,
yeah, the illustration field was basically floated with a ton of AI art.
And yeah, I think many illustrators
kind of felt a backlash from it
and tried going into, yeah into more original or different directions.
So if you see me changing the style around that time, it's probably because I was trying
to find a way to survive as a creator, more or less. And of course, I love that medium.
I feel like that's so interesting
to hear from that perspective
at the end of the day I'm one of those
almost
unforgivingly optimistic people
where I instantly
hear that as like oh wow
AI made you adapt and learn
new things
yeah it's actually that you can see it as a as a
positive aspect i i actually have no regrets i actually i'm pretty happy about what i'm doing
right now and i kind of found my my dimension and also managed to explore something that I was interested in. And maybe, yeah, I would have kind of stalled into the same place
if it wasn't for that happening.
So there are definitely some positive aspects.
But I also kind of miss just drawing, you know.
Probably the last piece that I did, the Liminalia series, which is a GIF,
of course, but I also excluded using soundtracks, because for a while I made a lot of soundtracks,
but I wanted to kind of just focus on drawing for a while.
And so I went back and even if it is a pixelated drawing,
I'm interested in exploring color palettes
and new things that I haven't tried before right now.
So I think I will experiment a bit over the next pieces uh with these themes and specifically
color theory i want to try different things
i do absolutely love the way you use um palettes within your compositions. There's something that I couldn't really put my finger on that just feels like, I guess, your brand in a way.
So it'll be interesting to see you step out of that box, because at the end of the day, that is one of the things that I feel like really stood out right off the bat is that you have a style when it comes to your color palettes. Thank you so much again. You're
not the first person that actually says something like that to me. Of course,
really, really flattering again. I really don't know because I actually choose colors very instinctively.
So if I have to make a scene, of course, the more psychedelic drawings have a specific palette,
which came out pretty organically, just trying things out.
And then after that, every time I kind of create a drawing,
I try to think about it in terms of atmosphere, if I have to choose a term.
So whatever the vibe I'm trying to describe, it's like, yeah, I, I, I try to choose the
colors in order to, um, convey some sort of a message about what the atmosphere of the
drawing is.
So, and sometimes I come up with pretty weird things, uh, along, yeah, while I experiment with the process.
But yeah, it's not something I really think about that much.
It kind of comes out as sort of a feeling.
I have this feeling about the drawing, so I choose those colors.
And I got to say, when it comes to a background in music,
maybe you can relate to this and it maybe it played a role in that because like my music coach and stuff growing up would always say don't
try to be any other sound you just just let what you are comes out and that'll refine itself over
time but i feel like it's the same for when you see like an artist kind of stumble upon
a refined style a noticeable style a recognizable style is because it's because they're not trying
to be anything they're just it's what comes naturally so I think that that's what we're
experiencing there based off of what you just expressed. And there's a lot to be said about that.
Yeah, but I love the comparison to music because, of course, I come from that background too.
And I almost approach the medium of music and the medium of drawing in pretty weird ways.
I kind of draw as if I was making music.
And when I make music, it's like I try to draw.
I'm trying to draw.
So it's pretty stupid to say that.
No, I completely relate.
For me, it's the most powerful result of being in this space every day for years is that I've been empowered and pushed to innovate and expand to the point where there is this ultimate freedom to just within myself, you know, jump from creating some really cool visual art
just because i want to explore that to oh this should have a song and then vice versa and you
know everything in between so that's one of the things that i feel like digital art and web 3
and specifically like the tezos energy and vibe and community really gave me in life,
was that ultimate creative freedom and broader tool belt.
I totally, totally agree.
I think that my years on Tezos really have helped me in expanding,
generally speaking, my whole in in so many ways also in
terms of approaching mediums and uh everything that comes uh that is related to art art making
but also to experiencing art uh like just uh being exposed to to seeing a lot of pieces from different artists,
it's just amazing. It changes your perceptions a ton. And I see that come very handy even in
everyday life tasks when I'm asked to do maybe proper jobs, normal jobs in real life. I feel like I was able
to at least have an amount of experience over these years in the space that is not that common.
that that common uh you usually expect it to be of course when when talking with other people
uh you sometimes make the the mistake to expect that they come from the same of course point of
views and experiences but of course we're all different and yeah i i definitely don't regret spending this time on Tezos because it gave me so much.
And yeah, it's just, it still does.
It's like a sacred fountain for inspiration and for trying new things, for experimenting.
experimenting and especially this blockchain has allowed me to do this in ways that
are almost impossible in other in any other venue
i completely and wholeheartedly agree um honestly when it comes down to it i had pretty much
almost given up on music and art and had decided to like take a pause from it all and try
to grow up quote unquote and like figure out how to be a manlier man that can take care of his shit
you know like just to be blunt about it life really brought me down and then like right as
that happened it was 2017 you know i somebody showed me Litecoin and it's history from there because I ended up running into people within the Tezos community, I believe it was 2019, and never looked back.
It's just been my home ever since.
So it really is kind of, like you said earlier, it kind of saved my life in a lot of ways.
Like you said earlier, it kind of saved my life in a lot of ways.
Just a reminder, guys, we're chatting with Limbo Universe about his art on Tezos and his experience as an artist.
And this is all thanks to Tezos Commons.
We do this every Friday called Artsy Friday.
Really appreciate you being here.
It's really great to see some new faces in here
musical web 3 i look forward to meeting you and talking to you poyo great to see you robert oz
gravatopia thank you for being here duo de musica another incredible music act here in the space
and not to mention just incredible people and strong community members as well as pretty much
everybody i'm seeing in this room that's one of the crazy things about tezos is as pretty much everybody I'm seeing in this room. That's one of the crazy things about Tezos is that pretty much everything
everybody I recognize in here is a significant figure.
We got Bill Knight. We got Tech Mental. We got Randall.
We got Grace and Bad Love from our intro song.
Got to meet them for the first time. We got Retro Manny.
Thank you so much for being here.
And I definitely want to get into chatting with Limbo about y'all's experiences kind of stemming out from directly making art and supporting the art scene.
For example, with Cher Fertez.
Ayaz, thank you for being here.
Skuni, a legend.
Thank you so much for being here.
Blangs, my friend.
Appreciate you.
Aria, we have, I'm just going to keep going down the list because this is a beautiful list today.
Internet, Demirida.
Sorry if I didn't say that right.
Jamal, Ryan, MB, Jack, Super Cities.
We got Cherno.
We got Within the Vacuum, OTB.
Thank you guys so much.
Make sure to retweet the room and let people know that we do Artsy Friday every Friday, same time, same place.
Just so an incredible space.
And yeah, thanks to everybody tuned in.
And also hello to Retromani and Blanks and yeah, Jack,
the people I know personally, many of you.
So thank you for tuning in.
And yeah, by the way uh what you were saying uh earlier about losing trust about
art and uh it's similar to to what actually happened to me before starting minting on
so i can totally relate uh because yeah i was working on my first book but it all happened more or less as a miracle and at the same time I started
minting in here and from that yeah everything sparkled as a new newborn interest it was even
stronger and stronger of course about drawing specifically, but generally about art.
And yeah, it gave me so much energy to the point that I actually was able to invest in my passions.
Otherwise, maybe I would have taken different paths.
And I would have become, yeah, a normal employee somewhere.
I don't know.
So I'm very grateful, of course, for what happened.
Generally speaking, there's still so much work to do
because it's never-ending, basically.
But, yeah, it's very cool to be on the art journey and
yeah i don't know if you had other questions uh there were many topics that actually came to my
mind but they actually already slipped away hey no worries one thing i did want to make sure to
not forget is to talk about your experience coming up with the Tezos event
along with Retro Manny and what that was like, how it started.
And we don't have to get too far into it because at the end,
this is supposed to be about you and your art.
But if you'd like to talk about it,
I think it probably was a significant moment for you.
Of course. I'm more than keen about talk about it i think it probably was a significant moment for you of course i'm more than
keen uh about talking about it because uh by the way of course it's important to to cherish your
own artistic journey etc etc but we don't have to forget that some of the most interesting and cool things happening through Tezos are relationships.
So I'm more than glad that I can say that, yeah, basically it all started out through a friendship,
more or less, more or less, that was cultivated, was cultivated at the distance
since we both live in different countries.
But Mia Retro first became friends
and he's still a good friend of mine.
And secondly, we saw that we were capable of collaborating.
I think that I speak for him too i don't know but uh he's
one of the the coolest collaborators i've ever found uh it's hard for me to collaborate well
with people if i don't if they don't uh actually uh fit within certain i don don't know, certain qualities, possibly.
And he definitely encompasses them all.
He's great as an artist, as a creative person and he's he's very cool with ideas and also very determined in into putting
things into practice so all these things uh actually led uh to us um being involved to me
actually being involved into creating a first event for Tezos,
which was Share for Tezos.
It started out as a conversation, an idea we had on Twitter.
And then we brought it to Kika, which was, again, an incredible person
and allowed us to share these ideas with her
and actually make them happen.
And the same happened with Arcadia,
which was an exhibition we actually organized as curators
in the month of April.
So it's already two months ago, almost, because it was at the end of April.
But yeah, we just started out by being friends, chatting about things, admiring our work.
We made some spaces together at first, and we saw that we got along very well.
And as in many cases here in the space, then these friendships could flourish into incredible collaborations.
So I thank him, of course, for what he brought into my table
by just being himself.
And, yeah, very happy about what we did
and also very happy about exploring new ideas with him
eventually in the future.
We were just talking about, yeah,
starting seeking through different projects
that we can develop in the future.
And, of course, we both love supporting art on Tezos.
I actually managed at a certain stage
to be pretty good at art in here,
but I owe this to so many artists that have supported me,
and in the same way, I hope that at least a bit I did for them too.
Yeah, we want to give back, and we admire and love the art scene. So whenever there are possibilities
to actually showcase work or whatever happens,
in a similar way of what you guys are doing here
with this space,
yeah, we try to do that.
do that. We try to do that in each way possible. And I hope it's gonna, it's gonna happen again
We try to do that in each way possible.
in a big way in the future. I'm sure it will, you know, like, things can only be
compressed so much. And, you know, once you once you put it, it you know into way too much pressure it
goes boom and I think we'll see that eventually with this community with this
tech with this with the ecosystem with the network it has all the right pieces
to the formula and I think that's why we all stick around even though others
think we're crazy for it oh definitely but it's impossible it's it's also
impossible to leave because at this stage the people who are involved with
theses even though they may seem like even some artists maybe they can seem
like they're inactive for a while but they're just maybe trying to get along with their lives,
but they're certainly present.
So I think we all care and we're all here.
So it's impossible.
It will go away at this stage.
It's one thing to have network effect, as they call it. Sorry to interrupt, but you just made me think of this. it's one thing to have like network effect as they call it sorry to
interrupt but you just made me think of this it's like it's one thing to have network effect and you
know that's like a arguable like like fundamental needed for an ecosystem but to have like community
effect is something that like i don't know if has been quite experienced yet and we're kind of building that absolutely uh and it's among
the roots of a genuine a real organic uh system i think um outside of the hype etc. At the end of it all, all that matters is that there are real people involved.
So I love this aspect too about Tezos.
And I was gonna say,
another thing that I love about it
is the collaborative nature of it.
Like what you and Retro have done together,
artistically even, is a great example of it
with your recent collab and you know even beyond that
because it showcases what art can be if two artists humbly allow
another artist to put the things to it in their own unique way with their own unique touch and
it really becomes something that just could have never been with um without that collaborative nature to it um and you guys have a aligned style
with your own refined like brand essentially is what i would say so when you combine it it creates
some pretty fantastic stuff and that's just like one of the things I continue seeing
and personally am trying to practice more than ever
within Tezos is collaboration.
Yeah, I think that collaboration is one of the most important things
we can do around here because it also allows you
to push your boundaries a bit and see yourself in a different situation,
artistically, of course.
And also, yeah, sometimes you can find people that are very, very open
to collaborate in the best possible way.
So, of course, dialogue is very important in these situations
if it was for myself I would
collaborate with so many
great and talented artists around
like Retro
actually does because he's a very
great dude
and he has
collaborated a lot with incredible
artists around
Tezos so I suggest you to check his collaborations out also,
check his profile, et cetera, and see what he's done.
But generally speaking, I would love to be so involved with collaborations too.
And there are some names I'm actually trying to work with in the near future in
order to put out some collaborative pieces.
But yeah, unfortunately, I don't have that much time lately and collaborations take a
little bit more from you, I think, because you have to be very efficient.
Both people need to be very efficient in order to make them work properly.
So, yeah, I hope I'll have more time in the future.
This is something I really wish I can afford in the very near future in order to be even more present, more active, to have fun and collaborate more with people.
Because it's just fantastic.
And it opens doors to places you've never been before.
100%. And it's one of the things that's like a permanent memory for me about my Tez Tones experience is that it forced me to collaborate on a project with several people for like a month at a time in that first stage.
something that people get lost in as solo artists understandably is the rush grind the need to put
out quantity to appease the algorithms and stuff like that you know like we all feel it and so
there's that that urge can sometimes get in the way of realizing that um sometimes especially
within collaborations that space that time to, that time to let communication happen and let life happen to everybody
can actually create, in a way, an even more nuanced piece of art.
Definitely. Regarding algorithms, I have to say that I was like I've been like that of course for at least two or three years
I was very very you know very systematic and I used to put out a lot of stuff all the time
but in recent years even unfortunately after a burnout that I had at the start of this year, actually, it was around January, February, I had a very strong burnout and I had to go to see a doctor even.
a doctor even. After that, I kind of, even before that, to be honest, before that I was
already starting to care a little less about algorithms. But after that, I completely
reconsidered my way of approaching the subject. Of course, it's very important to be productive.
subject. Of course, it's very important to be productive. And of course, it's very important
to do things well. But I'm starting to reconsider or at least try to find new ways to approach
the subject, being those eventually working more on the theoretical side of things before throwing myself into them.
Or maybe, yeah, just having a more systematic approach,
maybe trying to make a project of a whole collection of pieces to develop before I put it out.
I'm more wise and more quiet, I have to say, because I don't believe in,
essentially don't believe in what the major idea is,
which is you need to be super consistent in order to get somewhere.
I think it's some sort of a ghost that we have as a society, a ghost looming over society.
We need to stay quiet in order to achieve things sometimes better things even so
of course it depends on every case every every situation has different persons
sorry every person has experiences different situations but in my case specifically
different situations. But in my case, specifically, I kind of had to slow down a bit.
But I'm enjoying it a lot. And I don't feel too much of a pressure, sincerely.
I feel I'm living a like I'm living a better life. I still want to create.
I still need to create.
So every time I need to create, I'm sure I make the best work I can ever make.
But I'm not too obsessed with producing, producing, producing at this point.
And even with this market conditions, because it's actually pretty weird to super produce when nobody has actually the economical sources to enjoy what you create.
That's well said.
I do want to let everybody know that we will open up the stage here in just a minute for anyone that wants to ask Limbo questions again about his art, his experiences, projects, anything that might be coming out soon.
We do on the last Friday of every month do a community call.
However, this month we might actually have to miss the community call
and do a makeshift other type of spaces
because we will be at TezCon at the end of the month.
That being said, if you want to come up and ask Limbo any questions,
we can open up the stage for that.
We've got another fantastic song to play all towards the end
and definitely appreciate everybody being here to support Limbo and keep this show going.
Because I couldn't do it without you.
While we're waiting for anybody that might be being shy, that might have questions for you, Limbo, I'll go ahead and ask.
Do you have any plans to drop some more art on Tezo soon?
Because, frankly, you got nothing on primary and you gave me FOMO.
Yeah, I'm working on new pieces, of course.
Of course, I always do.
I always do.
I'm trying to prepare something for,
in order to continue with the Liminalia collection,
so linked with the last piece that I dropped.
I probably will drop it around next week,
if everything goes correctly,
goes with the schedule.
So, yeah, thank you for asking.
Of course, I'm producing.
I will drop these new pieces over, I think, the summer
and then eventually move to some different places with my art.
This is at least the plan.
Well, I'm excited to see whatever comes next
I say it all the time on the show
but it's because it's where I am as an artist
I'm open to collab, just reach out if you want to
definitely, definitely
and also
I also have some other collaborations
that I will develop
but yeah they're kind of further
away in the future uh one falls uh for example the 27th of july so it's a bit far away uh but
i will develop a piece for a collection that a great collector of mine c Cody of Houston, is actually putting into place and he asked me to
develop a piece, so I'm doing that. And I also have some plans to mint some on-chain art,
thanks to another friend, Dither, that has asked me to develop a piece that will fall under one of his on chain collections so
i'm currently working on those things too
that's awesome and i just saw that retro manny has come up to the stage how are you today my friend
has come up to the stage how are you today my friend i'm doing well yoshi um thanks for having
me up in and a big big shout out to the unchained gang for sure and um yeah hello limbo hello
kryptonia as well um much love to both of you yo friend it's been a while since i last heard your voice. Yeah, we used to talk almost every day at one point, right?
I really enjoyed your interview today,
and there's quite a few things.
Firstly, I just want to say thank you for the kind words
from both of you,
but also there's a lot of things that you said
really resonated with me as an artist,
and I really like your philosophy and approach to things. And sometimes it takes a burnout to get there. Right.
I think a lot of people probably can relate to that. And, um, yeah,
I really liked your philosophy and approach to slowing things down and not
being too fussed about trying to overproduce. Um, so yeah, it was,
it was very, very nice to hear that from you
thank you mate yeah we're doing with what we can of course and uh we're we're still producing of
course we i am still producing um a lot but maybe sometimes i i don't even want to show it right away.
Yeah, it's those things.
I'm sure you can relate sometimes,
even though you're pretty productive on Tezos,
which I admire a lot from you.
But yeah, maybe to us,
it also seems we can always do better, etc., etc etc etc so yeah i just stay away from those pressures
that you can that can that can eventually impact your uh everyday life uh so yeah give it just a few more minutes for anybody that wants to come up retro did you have any
other questions for limbo or you want to talk about anything um not a question um because i've
spoke to limbo so much that um there's loads of stuff i already know, I guess, but, um, I think it's worth sharing
this story because when I first came into Tezos, I was, uh, it was 22, April, 2022.
And I didn't know anyone and I was discovering artists on Tezos.
And when I discovered Limbo, I became an instant fan.
I was kind of like a fan boy.
And, um, yeah, I became an instant fan. I was kind of like a fanboy.
And yeah, I absolutely loved his work.
And I really, really wanted to work with him at some point.
And in the cringey way that I think everybody does when they first joined a new community,
I did try to get his attention.
And I jumped into a few spaces.
But now to think that how much we've worked together
and what we've been able to accomplish is pretty crazy.
So, yeah, I just wanted to share that because it's pretty funny.
Now I definitely consider Limbaugh a good friend.
But, yeah, there was a point where I was just a huge fanboy.
Too kind.
I'm now a fanboy of your work, especially the 3D shorts which are mind-blowing.
So yeah, but it's always like that. It needs to be like that. I had similar experiences too with
other artists, maybe in the space, that seemed so far away at first for me and and then i managed to
uh be friends with them or or even yeah i never managed to collaborate with one of my favorite
artists that unfortunately has left the space right now uh i'm trying to get him back because I know him as a comic artist but he's called One Bit Necro and he was
just this huge, huge artist for me when I first started on Tezos. He was dropping pretty regularly
and his work was one of the greatest things that I ever saw in my life back then. Even, yeah, still today.
But yeah, I love when these things happen.
And I feel like it's very cool
because sometimes people tend to be a bit snobby
when people approach you and you don't know them.
Even artists sometimes are a bit snobbish,
but you don't have to be because you never know what you have,
who you're talking with.
And even if you have an image of their situation at that very moment,
you don't know what they're going to become in like a week or a month
or whatever necessary, even years.
It doesn't matter because, yeah, whenever somebody wants to make art
and they feel like they have to make art,
even if they are just getting started, you really need, I think, to just tell them to do more or find ways to provide some energy.
And, yeah, I love this approach.
I think Americans, generally speaking,
many American people that I admire and love
have this kind of attitude.
For example, I managed to encounter one day at a gig
the guitarist from Sonic Youth, Lee Ronaldo, and we ended up taking a picture together.
I was very young and I was kind of playing in a grungy band and he was there and he treated
me like we were friends since forever or like he was nobody.
And I love this approach because at the end of the day we
are all nobodies it's not that our career define us or whatever so I think this approach is the
best one can have every day and of course this leads to amazing friendships with artists that can become incredible, like Retromani is.
All really well said.
I've truly enjoyed every single bit of this talk that we've had today.
of this talk that we've had today and every single one of you thank you for being here
And every single one of you, thank you for being here.
we're probably going to close it out soon with another track provided by i believe this is
another one from the nostalgia to yeah from another one from the nostalgia 2000 mixtape
really hope that you guys are going to enjoy this one but before that just a reminder
if you guys see people going above and beyond within the Tezos community, make sure you are utilizing the Tezos CRP.
Nominate people for Tezos CRP, hashtag it, use the form.
It doesn't take much time, but it can make a big difference in the people of Tezos' lives and help support them to keep doing what they're doing.
So make sure to utilize Tezos CRP and nominate the people that are making a difference in the space, guys.
Tezoscommons.org slash rewards, or again, hashtag TezosCRP in the comments,
telling us what this person is doing and which category you wish to nominate them for.
One other reminder, just because it's exciting and going on right now
before we close out, and that is that Object has recently dropped season one of Art Packs,
which is a really fun incentive to just go collect more art because there are random chances of
unlocking packs of art curated by 60 different artists, actually over 60 different artists.
And it's really fun if you
like opening pack pokemon cards or anything of the sort it's a digital version of that with
tezos artists instead of game cards so i uh i really highly recommend that if you've been
holding off on especially like a bigger thing that you want that you just decide you want to do um i believe that it's
weighted to the point where i like you're almost in the 90 percentile of pulling something if you
like spend over 150 tes not not financial advice but i'm saying as somebody that collects
it got me excited and gave me an extra excuse to collect some things that i typically wouldn't
justify so it's a really cool initiative.
I actually was going to say earlier, I think Limbo in season two, if you can get their
attention, I would love to see some of your work as within the format that works for the
art packs.
I think it would work really well.
I'd love to.
I didn't know about this because I was away from keyboard for like three or four days.
The information didn't arrive to me.
It's just incredible.
I love the concept.
I love the idea.
And I'm going to check it out as soon as the space ends.
Because, yeah, it got me excited just based on the description.
Very, very cool idea.
It really is.
And everybody, obviously, do your own research.
Make sure you read up on the how-tos and everything that are provided.
And a couple of community members have even created little vibe-coded apps
that'll help you kind of understand what your odds are of getting a pack
based off of each TES amount you can spend.
Pretty, pretty cool.
I think the community is going to continue
kind of grouping around it we're going to see a good spike in volume on object which is good for
everybody uh that being said guys thank you so much for coming to another artsy friday and
learning more about limbo universe with us we're going to go ahead and close out with this outro
song called thames by mr muywa i Apologies if I butchered that.
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As always, when we play music on the show,
I recommend you go listen to the links that we provide with headphones to get the full experience and enjoy the visuals that often come with it.
Thank you guys so much for coming to another Artsy Friday.
Thank you guys so much for continuing to put your wonderful art on Tezos.
It's been a pleasure talking to you today, Limbo.
And thank you guys so much.
We'll be back next Friday.
And once again, this is tezos comments artsy
friday i hope everybody has a wonderful weekend any closing words for us mr limbo yeah just thank
you uh thank you so much for having me great music selection i wish we could have talked more about
tezos music and music in general maybe next time but yeah so amazing thank you thank you
guys and keep up the amazing work absolutely agree that we need to continue talking about
Tezos music because I feel a revival in the air I feel a lot of people talking about it a lot of
development ideas being shared but we won't get into that today. We'll save it for another day,
actually.
But I just shout out though,
if you want to stay in tune,
pun intended,
with the music scene on Tezos,
absolutely make sure to follow Tez Tones.
Wonderful initiative that's keeping the music alive in the space.
Not to mention a big part of why TezCon exists,
which will be at the end of the month, June 28th.
Thank you guys again.
Stay tuned.
We'll see you next week.
Have a great weekend.
Stay artsy.
Love you all. Thank you.
