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Artz Friday
Recorded: May 23, 2025 Duration: 1:31:18Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion, James Blues shares insights on the launch of a new dApp for fully on-chain NFTs on Tezos, emphasizing partnerships and fundraising efforts that support environmental sustainability. The conversation highlights the growth of the Tezos ecosystem and the emerging trend of integrating art with philanthropy.
Full Transcription
Thank you. for a spaces that functions it's good that we got up here as a co-host that's a good start
welcome jams blues welcome blangs you're here for another artsy friday we're gonna get things set up
get kryptonio up here as a co-host we got a song for y'all and then we'll get get things going
make sure to retweet the space make sure everybody knows we're here Tony up here as a co-host, we got a song for y'all, and then we'll get things going.
Make sure to retweet the space, make sure everybody knows we're here.
I know it has been a rough couple of days in ex-Twitter world.
I'm going to mute for just a second, we're setting things up, we'll be ready in a moment. Thank you. All right.
Got the space tweeted out.
I got Kryptonio up here as a listener.
We'll get him up here in just a second.
We got a great song for y'all.
And I'm kind of expecting it to be a slightly slow space just because of everybody having so many issues with Twitter the past few days.
But again, we're going to do our best,
and I'm really, really looking forward to chatting with Jams to Blues
about so many things going on in your world.
Man, it's like you got the music, you got the incredible animations,
you got kind of the installations and explorations of both.
And then on top of that, of course, fully on-chain dApps.
I hope you enjoy the Jim thread. We'll be talking about that a little bit soon as well.
But we're almost ready here. Welcome, Bill. Thank you for joining us.
Just trying to get Kryptonio up here as a co-host, and then we'll get started.
Yo, and there it is. It happened. We had actually so far less issues today than last week.
I'd love to see it. Welcome, Scooty. Thank you for joining us.
We're about to fire up our intro track, and this song is actually by Jams to Blues.
It's called Lost in the Desert, and we hope you guys enjoy.
I'm a million dollars, I'm a million dollars. Oh We will have pain as we struggle to lift up our lives.
I've been self-awarely, cherished the now.
If for the of our future, there is always over, we will find out.
Crossing over to the other side.
Just a doubt of beginning that we have no choice to buy. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh forever I Oh We've done forever, guys. It's a Metro-Doc.
Really cool song.
I'm kind of curious to chat with you, Will, if we can start off maybe about the song and how it was made.
But first, before we get into that, how are you doing today, James Blues?
Thanks for coming up
hey much appreciated everything's going all right just uh been had my head buried deep deep in code
for the last two weeks or so trying to get this new d app out for tezos fully on chain nfts so
that's pretty much all i've been doing for the last couple weeks actually really last month altogether yeah your focus has absolutely been on that i figure it might be a
good little switch up to talk about um about your art for a little while and then we'll kind of dive
back in of course because i want you to be able to talk about what you're building and whatever
you feel like talking about today in general um but as far as that song that we just played goes
i know it was uh it's said to be a collab with S.R. Chappelle. And I'm wondering if you could give us a little bit of clarity on who made what and what inspired it.
authors out on that I have found on social media I'm a I'm a collector of
signed books so anytime I run into an author that that I connect with on
social media or maybe in the web 3 space I have a habit of asking them for a
signed version of an author copy or whatever and I pay extra money for it
and I met her in my very first adventure on NFTs about three and a half years ago when we were both on voice.
And we started collaborating with each other with poetry and art on that platform.
And she wrote this poem, which is in the description of the NFT itself.
And she asked me to write the music for the animation that
was on there so i took her animation and i i put movement to it and i added some color changes and
green screened the animation and i wrote a song to synchronize with the setting sun in that animation
where everything kind of just evolves and changes and it goes from, from being super, you know, black and white to colorful. And,
and the song itself was just my,
what I kind of feel and experience while, while reading her poetry and,
and my interpretation of the visuals for the artwork itself.
I'm, I'm one of like 2,000 people.
One in 2,000 people in the world
are born with something called synesthesia,
and I'm one of those people.
When I hear sounds,
I quite literally have this really elaborate
kind of fractal pattern
that I can see in my mind's eye
when I hear music.
So, I mean, to me sound music has texture
and feeling and and actual visuals and i incorporate that on a lot of my my physical
art and animations um that's fascinating that you have that just in normal life i mean i can go back
to like some of my more crazy college years and talk about some colors that I saw to music under certain outside influences.
And to compare, those outside influences are a really good way to describe what it feels like to me.
Because I've done it as well, and it doesn't really change much what I experience.
And that's kind of that's
kind of what it's like yeah that's really cool to me because at the end of the day some of my most
powerful moments with music were during that phase of life on those things so the fact that you get
to see that kind of that connection that music has to not just frequency but color and like um also kind of like the colors
and what they mean within a spiritual realm like that's kind of mind-blowing and i actually didn't
even know that was a thing what's it called again it's called synesthesia synesthesia it's where uh
certain parts of my brain are kind of cross-wired. Maybe there's too dense of a connection between two parts of the brain.
For example, the part of the brain that deals with being able to hear
and being able to visualize or see things in your mind, your imagination,
those are cross-wired.
So when I hear things, it triggers my associative visual cortex so that I actually quite literally experience seeing things
as I hear things. So here's an interesting question. Have you ever played with like
bone induction headphones? I haven't yet. I've, I've, I've been curious to see what that would do,
but I'm going to get some.
I imagine that's going to be a completely new, unheard of type of experience for somebody with synesthesia.
Yeah, probably. My world is a different world. To be honest, it's like trying to explain to someone what the color red looks like that was born blind.
Or really even any new color that someone that can
see has never experienced yet. It's impossible to be able to see and hear the world the way that I
do. You have to be me. And the best way that I could possibly tell you to be able to experience
it is not recommended in most countries and states. Not a legal recommendation. Right.
But a spiritual one at that indeed yeah i um no no regerts on what i have tried uh but in general that's really really cool to hear
and it actually explains a lot of um what i'm seeing within your art as far as like the common themes of moving uh through spectral colors and using
geometric shapes and um trying to establish a connection between what we hear and what we see
within your art it's really apparent when you say it that way thank you so much you know what it took
me about two years of studying after finding out i had synesthesia, and that's what I was experiencing, to really figure out what I was seeing.
And I coined the term that you're seeing in a lot of my art. It's called a counterchange tessellation.
And a lot of the times I draw them as fractals as well. So counterchange tessellation fractal.
times I draw them as fractals as well. So counterchange tessellation fractal. It is an
invention of my own to try and describe geometrically and mathematically what exactly is happening.
You have to imagine most pieces that I draw as a checkerboard, a black and white or chessboard,
and the check pattern counter changes between black and white squares,
but they're all interconnected and follow the rules of a tessellation,
where you have all these polygons interlocked with each other with no space in between that are all in the shape of a square.
But let's say you took that checkerboard and you used the liquify tool in Photoshop and you dragged it around for a little bit.
Technically, it's still a counterchange
tessellation it's just all the pieces have been warped that mesh has been moved in a way where
you can see different patterns and structures but the entire thing follows the rules of a counter
change where you you go from black to white to black to white to black to white no matter which
direction you look at it from and I've learned over time how to describe
what my art is optically, geometrically, and psychologically, as far as how they interact
with people that see normally, and people experience optical illusions that I draw all
the time that I didn't even know were there. That's how I discovered chromostereopsis.
I had no idea whatopsis. I had
no idea what that was until someone had seen my artwork and said, dude, this looks like it's 3D,
but without 3D glasses. And I was like, oh, really? That's strange. So I had to look that up.
But I've learned so much about my brain and about optical art, just experimenting and also trying
to figure out what it exactly is that I'm seeing.
I want to try to explain it in a way that makes sense.
And also not just to me, but to anyone that wants to study it later.
What I find interesting about this is that you have your own one-of-a-kind version of a recurring theme that I feel like us artists have, which is this
infatuation with trying to visually express what our mind's eye sees and whatever complexities feel
unique about that to us as individuals. And I do really, actually, when you come in with the other
word you just said, you'll have to say it again, regarding 3D without 3D glasses, is definitely one of the things that pulled me into your periodic table of elements collection.
Thank you so much.
You know, that collection that I've been working on for almost two years now, it is all hand drawn.
It is taking me a very long time, but I aim to finish all 118
elements. I have more than three-fourths finished now, and I'll be finishing the drop hopefully by
the end of this year, but when my second son is born, and that project will finally be done.
But it's something I started a long time ago, and I want to finish. It is very time consuming.
I hand animate every frame in After Effects using shapes.
So another question about this collection
that I'm just now noticing is it seems
that you're doing a very non-traditional numbering
system where the first edition, the first element, there's only one.
And then the second edition, the second element, there's two editions. And so on and so on,
to where as you get further into the series, there's more editions of each element.
I did that to honor the atomic number.
So the number of protons and electrons that exist in each atom is the number of
additions that exist for each addition of that series.
It's a really cool little nuance.
And I like that it has nothing to do with sales or Web3 NFT metrics.
It has to do with the art, that decision in itself.
I appreciate that.
That's something to be interested in, guys.
If you're just tuning into the Periodic Table of Elements collection,
first of all, it's deceivingly intricate,
the fact that these are all hand-drawn animations
not to mention the thought that's going into it's kind of telling a story of
each element this is really a very in my opinion kind of a groundbreaking
collection that deserves more attention and early birds will get the worm as far
as if you want some of the earlier periodic elements there's very few of them and some of them are still available so hint hint if you like collecting
before the curve I really think that uh that there's something to this this collection
as far as that goes with your process and how long it's taken you um i imagine you're kind of just going
by feel and when you're called to make another edition and it might be an ongoing collection
for a while um do you have a deadline or anything in mind is when you would like to finish this
collection my personal deadline is by the end of this year uh I have, I work on doing at least one element a week.
And I've been doing that for the last two years. And I've, I have a lot more that I've
completely finished that aren't listed or even minted yet that are just sitting in a folder on
my desktop. But I planned on trying to just push them all out in one go just because uh releasing one element at a time every week was starting to become harder
being said i'm a full-time stay-at-home dad for a three-year-old and i've got another one on the way
so but it is it is nearly nearing completion there's 118 elements total and i am currently
total. And I am currently on element 90, so not much longer to go. And each element, you know,
as I go from element to element, they get more complex. You know, I wanted to honor
how I experienced these elements with my synesthesia. But not only did I want to do that,
I wanted to honor, I think the red carpet should be rolled out, not to just me for this art, but I think that every individual discoverer of these elements
needs a red carpet rolled out. It's unheard of. We don't really give science and the people that
discover what reality is physically made of, enough credit.
And I think it's beautiful, the work that they've done.
And they've done it out of the kindness of their hearts and their own pure just obsessions of trying to just discover reality.
You know, the very devices we're using right now, the cell phones we're talking on,
most people don't know that you've got a bunch of elements that the semiconductors in your phone are using to be able to have this space.
And we take it for granted every single day, the extreme complex chemistry of the past that get us to where we are right now so that we can store zeros and ones and bytes on Tezos.
And so that we can actually have, you use the periodic table of elements to do this.
And it just amazes me.
It's always been a fascinating thing to me.
It was my favorite subject going through school and in college.
And it's something that's always going to be dear to me.
I never did anything professionally with chemistry myself,
but personally, I am a huge fan of everyone
that has ever done anything in chemistry. And my hat goes off to anyone in here that knows anyone or that is someone that works in the field of chemistry.
around in college was a chemistry major and he had to drop out like his first semester and shift
to sociology because it was just too much of a beast for him he's still he's successful today
as a financial and portfolio manager which is you know not at all what he would have ended up doing
as a chemist but um I've had a lot of respect for that world because of that but when you really think
about it you're right like scientists are the artists of reality i guess as far as like
manifesting the truths behind what we see and explaining it and to take that to its next level
and almost kind of see these as a collaboration.
Not to mention this collection, if you want to talk a little bit about the initiative some more behind it,
I know that you've mentioned 5% of the initial proceeds and royalties will go to plant trees.
And then you mentioned something about a store and discounts. Would you like to elaborate on that?
a store and discounts would you like to elaborate on that yeah i've got uh save the world with art
which is a non-profit that i started about three years ago um a hundred percent actually more than
just five percent really a hundred percent of the proceeds i make through that business uh i don't
i don't keep any of the money that goes into that i don't take any margin i don't
profit off of it um all of the money that goes into that goes to planet sustainability projects
all over the world i've funded solar farms in brazil i've done all kinds of work with
uh landfills and converting the gas that's produced in landfills into usable energy
landfills and converting the gas that's produced in landfills into usable energy
and and i've uh planted thousands of trees and removed tons of carbon from the atmosphere
through just nft sales alone and that's just that's just one of the things that i do with
this project it's not just this project it's every project i i'm a part of it all it is all
interconnected and woven into my save
the world with art ethos which is a trademark that i uh own and that i try and do stuff with so
i i donate the majority of my time um just trying to make the world a better place and i try not to
put that on the forefront of my sales, just because
I did that in the past and it just, it didn't really work very well trying to make the nonprofit
the front for my art. It seemed that people really just cared more about my art than they did me
doing good in the world. So I changed it up a little bit and I decided, you know what,
I'm still going to do it, but I'm going to do it silently and I'm going to donate humbly without talking about it. And I'm only saying things now just because you asked,
but, you know, I, I found that I'm actually getting a lot more attention and I'm getting
a lot more people buying my art by just simply being an artist. And then I can do what I love
to do anyway, which is make the world a better place
in in private that at the end of the day is i think the end goal for a lot of artists is just
to be able to let the art speak for your depth and purpose and then be able to have that empower
that purpose and i think that's one of the most powerful things about NFTs
and this kind of ability to put your art out in front of the literal world,
especially as more and more people adopt this technology,
where that's even possible to see and realize that it's happening.
Just little things like being able to click a few buttons after you get a sale and see
that the person that just collected your art seems to have a similar ethos and that
that must mean that your art is speaking the way you want it to.
I'm sure you can relate.
That's something that warms my heart every time i see somebody collect a piece and
it's like oh i think they actually got it you know no beautifully said i totally agree
uh that's that's a good path and that's that's something that i'm i'm still working on to try
and grow it i mean it's i've been doing this now for a little over three years uh actively
every single day um i have a lot of time to spare
outside of being a full-time stay at home dad. That's pretty much all I do. I, I, uh, ended up
winning a malpractice case against the Veterans Affairs Hospital for, uh, medical malpractice for
nine years of misdiagnosis and over medication, and they awarded me 100%
service-connected disability benefits for life, and that's what I've been living off of since 2019.
So instead of, you know, just kind of just rotting on the couch at home doing nothing for the rest
of my life, I really wanted to get better, and I did what it took to get better. And I started a nonprofit and all the money that I make doing what I do in Web3 is literally me continuing to serve
the people of this world, not just my country, but everyone. It blows my mind how many people
I've met from so many different places, from so many different countries. Before Web3, I didn't know anyone outside of the United States.
Now I've got connections and friends in 15-plus countries, and it blows my mind how similar we all are
and how wrong the perspectives of a lot of the media is from these outlets over here.
And just being able to help everyone that needs the help,
it makes me feel better.
That's why I call it Save the World with Art,
not Save the United States with Art.
Right.
And that's exactly one of the,
that's probably the strongest reason
that I am in love with Tezos and the community
and the tech and the art scene.
And just everything about it feels
like what I
actually want to see out of art and what it can do and how it can impact and empower the world
so I'm right there with you as far as like one of the reasons I can wake up and get moving and
be positive about it positive about every day is because I feel like we are part of
positive about every day is because I feel like we are part of probably the most plausible example
of that I've I think that might exist um and just the fact that we are still so soon in it
and we can see little glimpses of how the people of our art community when they do have success
what they do with it is very heartwarming and reassuring.
And one of the reasons why I'm always feeling like I need to preach about how all these whales out there need to come support Tezos
because the Tezos people are the ones that could actually save the world with art if the funds were there.
the world with art if if you know the funds were there it's like i continue seeing more and more
examples of like tezos people that are the people in the world that should be rich because it's
they're the few people i could see not changing for anything but the better with the power that
could give them and the art the art is amazing on tezos. I'm a collector myself. I do more than just create art, but I really love to give back few people I see in here that I've bought NFTs from before.
You're in there for a good reason.
You're in my vault and I have a special place for you.
Even if it's not me reselling it later in the future, but my children will inherit everything that I've built and that I own.
And they will continue on the legacy.
That's beautiful. I own and they will continue on the legacy.
That's beautiful.
Now getting into some of like what you're building and obviously this probably similar inspirations behind it.
Um, where did your journey in development and coding begin?
And then if you could lead us into where it's brought you today and what what you're
working on with the most recent contract upgrades for zero contract sure well um when i was 18 i
joined the air force to run away from my crazy parents and uh they gave me a job that job was
working on nasa's nasa skylab mainframe computers, IBM 360 mainframes,
built in the late 70s, didn't have integrated circuits on them.
And I learned jovial, and I learned how to troubleshoot and fix
really old, gigantic computer systems that fill a 757 Boeing airframe
from the nose all the way to the tail.
And I was able to get a lot of knowledge,
really basic understanding of how computer science works
from a perspective that's kind of lost today,
that you only get like a really short recap
recap and a small pop quiz on in college these days. And I went from that to working on,
and a small pop quiz on in college these days.
you know, directly into network engineering and system administration,
and dealing with really complex cloud computing situations and failover clustering, active
directory structures, the whole Microsoft
certification course set I was a master in. And I ended up becoming a senior network administrator
for Tippmann Group Interstate Warehousing, doing really big $5 million plus construction projects
and configuring every device and endpoint that goes into each warehouse and all the access points and and all that stuff so I was mostly very
experienced in most most of my experience was was very deep in the
Cisco world CCNA CCIE you know talking network language and and getting internet backbone routing situations set up with eigrp and bgb bgp
groups and and i went from that to um the incident in 2019 that that cost me nearly everything and i
ended up with brain damage and i had to start over i lost my ability to do a lot of that. And that career kind of turned upside down and went into this black hole of I didn't know what was going to happen. I didn't know where I was going to be. I did what I had to to get better. Ultimately, healing and getting a lot of my scruples back that were lost during brain damage.
that were lost during brain damage.
Took all of those nine years to get it back.
And now I'm healing and I'm better.
Over the course of the last year,
with the help of AI assistants,
ChatGPT,
Grok,
and all these other tools that are out there,
I have taken the time to actually go line for line
in a lot of different coding projects to learn JavaScript and to learn Next.js and to learn Mickelson.
And to just like I used to do the old school way, before there were LLMs, I was all of that. ask an AI how to fix a problem between two endpoints across the United States that was
causing a DMVPN link to fail. I could do that by myself without LLMs before, but now that they do
exist, I wish that they did exist during my time because that would have made my life so much easier but you know long story short
i know this is getting long um i did end up having uh hold on just one second i'll let you speak for
just a second my son just went potty and he needs a new pull up totally understand so just a reminder
guys as you're listening to this the whole point of this space
is for you guys as artists to be able to open up and tell those longer stories and give us more of
your experience and what inspires and motivates you to create art what inspires you to do your
projects that are around the art and at the end of the day like that's one of the things that feels so good about this space for us, specifically me, is that it's really nice to have that moment where you don't have to apologize for getting too in the details or in the weeds about a story.
about and the most recent article about artsy friday is just the concept that this is this is
a space to just get on unfettered unapologetically artsy and um love to see it so make sure that
anybody in the space that works within the tezos art scene that feels like they have a story to
tell or is really really into the deep deep details of their workflow and their process we'd love to
talk to them um get more people up on the show to tell their story so i just wanted to use that pause
as a moment to express that because gems that's uh that's what this is all about and we really
appreciate you sharing the details of it hey thank you so much man i really appreciate that
Hey, thank you so much, man. I really appreciate that. But yeah, I guess I'll continue on where I was at. I had all this experience working on network administration and engineering, and I wanted to get back into it. And I wanted to really know what NFTs were made of. I wanted to know what blockchains I was minting on, what their carbon footprints were, how all the math works. And I started learning.
And it didn't take long before I ran into fully on-chain
NFTs and what they're doing there.
And I met the whole group of people that
worked to build Ethic Hacks for
ETH and Base E eth and uh i started messing around with that
and tezos got my attention though because they have one of the lowest carbon footprints of all
the blockchains out there um one of my favorite things about their their initial ethos is this
sustainability that they have in mind for for being able to grow ethically and
sustainably which will in the long run help the long run itself so i i decided to learn you know
my biggest teacher myself um was ai assistants through through working through long sequences of conversations of code and
and going from building really simple tools of my own to help the process of making art a lot
easier and automated to to building um the zero app web app that everyone is using to mint fully on chain NFTs right now on Tezos.
My ability to, to use AI as a collaborator in my work across many, many different assets now that,
that helps speed up the process of learning. You know, I was a college professor. When I first got out of the Air Force,
I had enough experience and knowledge to get a job as a teaching network administration and
engineering at Daymar College, and I was teaching adults that were older than me,
fresh out of the Air Force, 25 years old, teaching a bunch of adults computer science and network
administration and engineering, and of course, doing all of this without access to AI and
LLMs like we have today.
And I'm telling you, I don't care who you are.
Googling is something that you do in the 2000s.
You don't Google things anymore.
You grok and you chat GPT them.
And then you do your research based on the cited sources that it gives you.
And you learn how to prompt engineer
so that you get better information
and you can sift through your research
to make sure that the answers that you give you
doesn't have hallucinations in it.
And then you also get better at your job by doing that because you can ask the search engine itself, what's wrong here and why did it happen and what made you give me this
answer? And it can tell you, and then you can get better at that. It's really cool.
That right there has been one of my more recent kind of ahas is, hey, you keep gaslighting me and this is how, explain why and please stop.
Exactly.
No, it really is.
It really does feel like you're working with
not just another person,
but maybe an extension of yourself.
I've found working with other people,
there are some developers out there that i am in contact with
that are very experienced front-end engineers that have told me even with the assistance of
chat gpt they would not be able to build the app that i built um and you know this is coming from
me someone that can tell you how an electron becomes a one or a zero in the registry of a CPU, uh,
as it travels from the telephone wire into your house and goes through the
rectifier in your wall outlet before it reaches, um, you know,
the power supply in your computer and converts,
converts it what it needs to convert it to that, that experience.
I just, that's, that's where that experience comes from, you know?
Absolutely. I want to where that experience comes from, you know? Absolutely.
I want to drill that home, kind of emphasize what you're saying to the room, which is that
anybody can use a tool, but that tool can be used with a level of back knowledge that
creates a professional prompt engineer, for example.
And the ability to understand what's going on does make a difference.
So it's just like any other field where you're using Photoshop.
There's newbies to Photoshop, and then there's pros that have been using Photoshop for decades
and know every single nuance about what it's capable of doing and understand how it's doing it.
And the same debate is there for AI usage. You know, sure, anybody can use AI, anybody can generate an
image. But at the end of the day, I feel like what Jams is expressing here is a perfect
example of how there's going to be people that can always do it better and in more depth and with more intention and meaning
behind it. And I think over time, we'll develop an eye for that more and more as well.
Hey, you nailed it. That was really well said. So my fellow cohort with AI prompt engineering,
you understand. It's like this amazing thing. it's it's it's the greatest thing in my
opinion since the integrated circuit um it is absolutely phenomenal they're using it to
to help genetic research you can decode the entire human genome for someone to find a cure for a
specific genetic type of cancer in less than an hour when it used to take a lifetime to be able to find that
information by hand and you know without ai there the existential black hole of knowledge
that is encroaching uh it's it's just we've reached this critical mass of information where
not one person on the planet is capable of really understanding
everything and we have to work together and it's it's a lot of the times too slow because of
governments and systems and and language barriers and and not just not just from language to language
but use of language itself like what is your language community how much do you understand
in the english language about what I'm talking about?
And how many words did I say that you just kind of dropped or went in one ear and out
the other, because their words aren't, you're not used to using yourself.
And AI has this uncanny ability to take anything that you say based on how you say it and regurgitate
it in a way that it understood that you will also understand based on how you say it and regurgitate it in a way that it understood that you will also understand
based on how you talked to it. And I find it very hard to find human beings capable of doing that.
It's very strange. But as we all use, like you said, AI every single day, and more and more people
are using it, we're going to start seeing the difference between, like, I would say if I was
curating art in one of my art contests for save the world with art,
there is a difference between fine art and decorative art.
There is a difference between real AI prompt engineering and just the average
everyday,
prompt user.
Absolutely.
It's,
wow.
Yeah.
Really well said. And, think that I kind of left speechless on that one. It's definitely something I feel really, really, really strong about to the point where I wrote a whole article about how we need to be more optimistic about how AI could be used.
Otherwise, we're just going to manifest all the fears that are being regurgitated.
And it may be even paint that reality into the inevitably someday conscious mind of LLMs.
We need to be saying our please and thank yous and treating them like a genuine collaborator you know that's just kind of my take on how deep that can go um and the more
prompt engineers that we have respecting it for what it's capable of the better
i wholeheartedly agree you know back back to the periodic table of elements um you know being able to get all of that right
and a lot of that research has to do with with being able to reach into the brain of chad gpt
and its data sets and and being able to make sure that it's the resources that it's citing and that
it's gathering information from are correct and if if you're not doing that, if you're not explicitly describing the intricate details
from beginning to end of the prompt,
you can automatically assume that everything
is going to be filled through improvisation
that you did not explain.
Absolutely.
And that's something I just recently learned with uh prompt engineering for the visual
art and i hope people will notice when i drop this upcoming collab with paul who is a ghost
it's the first piece where i literally didn't have to do a single post edit because instead
of putting the time into post editing i put the time into prompt
engineering um and it just kind of blew my mind the realization that the less guesswork i give it
the less guesswork it's gonna do it seems obvious when you say it but it was like ah it was just
such a moment oh that's gold too and i mean just you saying that, it goes to show that the work, the majority, if you're really doing the prompt engineering, the majority of the work to be able to get the answer to be correct, as the one auditing and curating the response, you know if your prompt was good enough, if it tells you what you were looking for which means
you did the work it just had the resources to spit out the answer
man well said i love this conversation and i sometimes i say this during a space i might have
to overdub some of this talk um record it somewhere maybe even put it in a song i love hearing stuff like this hey it's a fun talk conversation i don't really get to talk
much about it within with anyone else so i'm glad that you're you're in cahoots with this and
you have the knowledge to understand what i'm talking about i'm sure a bunch of other people
in here i have used it to anybody that's a coder, anybody that works in IT.
If you're not using it, you're really missing out on one of the most amazing inventions since
the integrated circuit. This is coming from an experienced computer science professor.
And I've been in computers since before integrated circuits existed. And I can tell you,
circuits existed and i can tell you it is amazing and if you want to be able to find answers for
your problems faster than searching through stack exchanges and doing google searches for the rest
of your life a quick little chat gpt chat gpt conversation with the latest model and dropping
in your dev console errors will blow your mind.
So moving back into the fully on-chain art aspect of it,
I don't want to go too far on this tangent, but I've enjoyed every moment of it.
When it comes to where we are with the current development
and your upcoming upgrade.
Now that people kind of understand the nuances and level of thought
you're putting into your developments, let's talk about them.
Let's talk about what's coming up for fully on-chain art on Tezos.
Well, Yestem Zero, I got to give him as much credit as credit is due.
He is the one that's developed the Zero Contract, that all the tools that I've built for using the Zero Contract are based off of.
Also, Retro Manny, not too much of a dev himself, but a very, very intelligent artist that dives really deep into knowing how these things work.
I watched his YouTube video on Better Call Dev and how to manually deploy
a zero-contract NFT Foley on Chain manually the hard way using DevTools.
And I was like, that's a lot of steps.
I was like, that's a the zero art dot app zero art
It took me a couple hours to get through it.
web app came from um i built that based on that youtube video by retro manny and uh you know i
of course naturally gained contact with yes them zero the author of the zero contract and
we've been working together for a while now, upgrading it, improving it. And we're at a point now we're on version four
of the Zero Contract. This new version that he's working on that is going to be released very soon
will allow artists to do amazing things that no one has been able to do on any NFT platforms yet, as far as I'm aware.
Probably other people have figured it out, but one of the coolest things you're going to be able to do
is you're going to be able to, if you're still the owner of all the tokens, you can go back and you can edit any mistakes that you made in your metadata
and your art and the title and the description, pre-listing it for sale, which is huge, especially
for fully on-chain immutable stuff, where when you deploy a contract, it's on the blockchain
forever and there's nothing you can do to get rid of it but you can at least go in and fix the token without having to burn or destroy it now which is a huge leap
forward for fully on chain nfts absolutely groundbreaking i can't verify but i would
assume that i that's not really um happening on any other blockchain yet um if it is correct me
but in general that is groundbreaking. Absolutely. Especially when
you consider the higher cost to deploy a contract and cement, the fact that you don't have to,
based off of one little error, burn it and pay those same expenses all over again.
That already would be a big deal for even ObjectMent. That's IPFS.
That would already be a significant development.
For it to be actually on-chain is insanity.
Definitely got me super hyper excited
the first time I heard y'all talking about that in the chat.
I've been working my butt off all the last couple of weeks
on the new interface,
which is going to replace the current web app
i'm designing it to be kind of more cool 8-bit themed since uh you know a lot of people are
are struggling with compressionism another really big feature that yes dem zero
that YesTemZero is releasing in the new contract
is the ability to append extra URIs to your contract.
So you can mint fully on-chain NFTs on Tezos
that are larger than the 20 kilobyte
or ultimately 32 kilobyte Tezos limit for storage.
So you can mint 178 kilobyte artworks or more depending on how much money you're willing to spend on gas which I know there's a lot of people out there spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars putting putting things on Bitcoin and Ethereum right now so it's it's a huge huge update that is going to be a game changer for the world of Tezos altogether.
that is going to be a game changer for the world of Tezos altogether.
And, you know, I'm trying to do this platform justice.
I'm actually building, in addition to this platform,
I'm building my own fully on-chain only indexer
that allows everyone's on-chain views to be immediately viewable
in marketplaces and on the platform itself
so that you're not having to wait
for those resolutions to come through.
And it will only be for on-chain NFTs
and we'll be able to keep a really accurate database
that shows how many for analytics purposes
and for being able to query things.
And I'll open that API up for other people
to build DApps with as well.
And there's gonna be just a lot.
It's going to be cool.
Just give me another week or so and I'll push it out.
I've already got contract origination working.
I'm currently in the process of building out the management interface for all the new entry
points in the contract.
And it should be done.
It's a pretty simple interface.
I do have plans for our marketplace as well,
but I don't know if I really need to build that just because we already have zero terminal.
So I've been in contact with Serpy and CQBES, Tez on that front
to make sure that we're all kind of working together to make sure that everything's in sync.
Yeah, that's actually, that would be my next question then, is you're in contact with them about Xero Terminal.
For anybody listening, Xero Terminal is one of the apps within the suite of apps you can find at Xero App,
and it's where you are able to do actual listings. However, there was an issue with the V3 aligning with that and enabling the owners to list.
Is there any update based off of that and moving into V4?
That's why I decided to just go ahead and build my own marketplace.
I'm going to go ahead and do that.
And because if I'm building faster
than anyone else can keep up with,
I might as well be the guy to just build it.
So I will build a marketplace
and I'll make it compatible
with every version of the Xero contract
that has been put out there
and make it reverse compatible
with older versions
so that they'll still function as well.
And I'll have the tools
ready and plugins ready, and it's all open source so that anyone that wants to add to their own apps
can do so. Everything that I do is open to the public. You can audit it. You can yell at me and
say, hey, your security sucks. Please let me know. Look at it. It's on my GitHub, at Jamstublues. Absolutely everything
that I'm building for this zero contract
is MIT
licensed and open source.
I'm not keeping any of it to myself.
I wholeheartedly believe in
the decentralization philosophy
and keeping things decentralized
where there's no gatekeeping.
So by all means,
if you see me building something and you want to know how it works, just go to my GitHub.
You can see exactly how it works.
I'm not hiding anything.
So as a fellow musician with all of this talk about development, I got to ask a personal question, and that is, do you have in your
back burner anything in mind as far as
developing something for musicians on Tezos?
Oh, yeah. Just to let you know,
that was a good question, too. I'm glad you asked, because there is a large list
of mime types, which are the types of
files you can upload um to be able to mint an nft one of those mime types is mp3s midi files
uh wav files you know different types of sound files that exist and that is something you can
do with the zero contract which means we kind of need a player for those, don't we?
Which you can assume, well, if that's a mime type that exists on our platform, I'm probably building something for it.
And that is in the pipeline.
I am building a player and I'm building a viewer for those kinds of files.
And as far as that goes, first of all, thank you.
I'm glad you have it in mind. Second of all, with your commitment to open source, I'd really like to kind of stay in tune every step of the way and potentially link you with the devs over at TIA so that maybe they can use some of your developments towards reintegrating him radio, for example, things that as an artist and musician eat me alive every day that are still not
back up and workable for the musicians that want to mint music on Tezos.
Literally kind of pull my hair out moments.
Like we need that years ago.
So definitely appreciate it.
And just know that you're not alone as far as there's a handful of people I can think of just off the top of my head that are eagerly wanting to see a push for accessibility for musicians.
I love that.
No, being a musician myself, I understand.
I definitely want my guitar solos on there.
And I'm trying to make that part of a priority as well.
So I will figure it out.
And if you can give me those contacts, I'd be happy to work with anyone on this.
I'm here to help Tezos grow and just to see what happens.
I'm doing it all for free.
I don't make any money doing this.
Well, hopefully with time, with the markets going up with the developments
of tezos x roadmap you will see what you deserve financially um and until then everyone please
share jams to blues art collect it it's amazing and it's supporting not just the development of dApps that are open source on Tezos, but supporting efforts to save the world with art.
So with that being said, please guys, follow the gem thread we posted today, share it, go check out Jamstablu's art.
Lots of amazing pieces available on Primary so that we can all support his efforts.
so that we can all support his efforts.
I think now might be a good time.
If anybody wants to come up and ask questions,
if you're okay with that,
I think we can open up the floor to anybody
that has questions for Jams to Blues.
And just a reminder,
we do a open call last week of every month
for if you want to talk about your projects or your art.
But we really appreciate anybody. If you have anything you want to pick gems
as blue's brain about we've talked about a lot today
thanks for taking the time to do this space with me it was really a fun talk absolutely and i meant
to ask this towards the beginning but i just want to confirm that your name is James.
Yeah, my real name is James Lee.
Jams2Blues is a handle that I've had since I was 16 years old.
I started my first email, jamstublues at gmail.com.
I'm 37 now, so it's been a while.
been a while and that's how i've signed my art um that's awesome you know we have i continue to say
And that's how I've signed my art.
That's awesome.
this and people that come to this space often might think that i'm just saying it at this point
but it's still true like we have a very parallel story within our art journey um with obviously
very very differing nuances but at the end of the day i'm 38 and also a musician diving into all this technical stuff and
um living a parallel life in a way i'm really excited to continue uh being a beta tester
for all these things as they ship awesome and we should definitely collaborate i'd love to make
some music babies with you that's all i do man you
don't know if this wasn't something we talked about but i did break a guinness world record
guitar solo in 2024 that was last year yeah i live streamed it here on x that's freaking awesome
what what okay tell us a little bit about the record you broke with that. So David DiGinotto was the previous record holder.
He played a guitar solo for 24 hours and 55 minutes at a bar to promote his band Modok.
And he played a guitar.
It was just a guitar solo.
Guinness allowed him to take five-minute breaks every hour for sanity checks and bathroom breaks.
And I wanted to go above and beyond. I wanted to beat his guitar solo in a way that it was really hard to beat.
So I decided to wear an adult diaper and I didn't take any breaks.
And I played for 25 hours and 15 minutes without stopping, shredding the whole time over 170 different genres of backing tracks.
That is absolute insanity and good for you.
Like that is wow.
I'm surprised that more people weren't talking about it still to this day,
because that is quite a, an accomplishment and um quite a commitment
yeah my fingers are bleeding by the end of that and uh it was literally one of the most painful
experiences i've ever been through about 18 hours through every muscle in my body every brain cell
was like stop give up this hurts you're but all the voices and all the faces and everyone that I said I'd do it for, they just kept playing in my head.
And I did, I just did what I had to, to keep going.
And eventually right around the point of delirium and, and starting to have extreme fatigue, everything just kind of let go the pain went away
the kind of like a runner's yeah it was like a marathon everybody to kind of just just personal
experience understand what what's happening when when an artist goes into their fourth, even fifth hour playing guitar with breaks.
It is absolutely like needles poking through the tips of your fingers.
It is so, so, so painful.
I used to play five hour cover gigs at the corners of restaurants and bars,
45 on, 15 off.
And even with some of those shows just being five hours,
my fingers would be bleeding at the end. So that really is quite an accomplishment.
Looks like we have TP up as a speaker. How are you today?
Hello, Tansy. I wanted to come up really quick. I have a phone call that's coming any minute, but I did a zero contract and I wanted to just shout out James thing to kind of go like, I'm one of those nerds that
has to see things succeed, right? Like I have to solve the problem. Having somebody like James and
just, it was really important to me to get my first contract up and try that that's important
to me. And so I did a zero creek contract. so yeah being part of that group I'm not I'm
quite terrible at group chat so most people know that I will pop out as soon as I can
and did um but I was privy to the the knowledge that um that you can change the information and
changing the images uh which is really interesting. And I'm sharing this because as somebody who's a creative
that does like 4K stuff and film stuff,
scrunching down to, I think it was the two gifs I did were 17KB,
which is like teeny, tiny, teeny, tiny.
And my res was shit.
So I was like, okay, that's okay though, right? That's okay.
So, you know, we're trying something new. It's like, that's going to sort itself out later. So
the idea that you can maybe swap images out is really interesting. In that conversation today,
that's something that artists can try new things and kind of stay the course with new development, which is really exciting when people are on it, like James is on it.
Right. And then the other aspect was I don't want to just be building on one platform.
It's really important to me to spread it a bit.
And I realized I've been negligent with Taya and uh minted on there and
I didn't realize there's some things that even though I've been here for years like this is year
five for me I didn't realize uh that when I minted uh like all my TP5 on object for instance
that they weren't populating on Taya because I see all my Taya on object.
And so I was really negligent.
I'm just saying like sometimes we don't know what we're missing until we take a closer look.
And I realized, you know, I really wanted to work.
I want to be able to support other platforms.
We don't want one ecosystem.
We want to have other kinds of diversity and different goals and different,
you know, visions. I think that's really important when we're building. So going back to Taya and
then hearing James talk about, you know, minting and holding as a creative, minting and getting
the contract is really, you're creating legacy and history, right? So not necessarily selling right away. So I had, I was planning to
list, I listed five of my 10 pieces on object and then took them down because I wanted to put them
all on, um, what was the contract James? Um, uh, the zero contract, another contract, sorry, the
platform, um, Oh, the ZeroArt web app.
Yeah, the ZeroArt.
So I couldn't list anything there because it's not working.
And I'm fine with it.
Like, I'm fine with it.
I just, I like the idea that we're creating our histories, right?
So anyways, the hearing that you're wanting to keep going with that is really interesting. I mean, we've been around long enough.
And just to speak to the music a little bit really quickly. I was just trying to remember the name of that
one app that did have a lot of musicians on back in 2021. They were Truzy and good old punk rock,
good old punk rock, Noah Fax. I'm a Gen X punk rocker. So NoFX minted a collection of music to Truzy,
and then Truzy just dropped. So my only thought aside from just that's really interesting to me
is that there might be people that were connected to a Truzy. I don't know who or anything about
that platform. It closed up. But they did have
a lot of musicians that I had connected with that were minting to Tezos. So you might want to check
out a little bit more of the history of Truzy. I don't know, maybe there are people that are
in here that know about it more or were involved, but definitely.
I actually am not familiar with that one. I was definitely really loving HEN radio at the time. And then on top of that, I really was hopeful for Radeon, which just kind of fizzled out because they were trying to go, I feel like, too much of a hybrid between what was already the status quo within Web 2.
and then trying to bring that to Web3 with very, very strict guidelines working with ASCAP and BMI and stuff like that,
where I think that might have actually confused people to the wrong end.
But Truzy was also around the same time, you're saying?
Yeah, I just dropped into the pill there. also around the same time you're saying?
Yeah, I just, I just dropped into the pill there.
There, I did a search of when they did,
NoFX was dropping and it was, when was it?
I can't read. Oh yeah.
This was May 2021.
Truzy had NoFX drop on Tezos.
And there were some other bands that I knew were dropping there.
So anyways, my point is like that's part of our history. But there may be some information there where there is some tech.
If somebody does a little bit of poking, you know what I'm saying?
Like if you're not aware of what existed.
Because sometimes our conversations are, you know, we don't know what I'm saying? Like, if you're not aware that what existed, because sometimes our conversations are, you know,
we don't know what's what existed before us. Or we think, you know, like,
wow, they might have some information there, or, you know,
there might be things that were in their contracts that we aren't aware of,
you know? So anyways, I just thought, you know, really cool. Anyways, James,
well done. I can't wait to continue the journey.
I haven't listed.
I'm waiting for something there.
But I'm also really excited that you're evolving the tech.
And I'm like, okay, so I've got my pieces there.
They're part of history.
I can do some things.
I can't wait to see what you do.
And I'm excited to be part of that.
That was really important to me.
So, miigwech, again, congratulations. You want to respond real quick, James? Yeah, thank you, congratulations.
You want to respond real quick, James? Yeah, thank you, TP.
I really appreciate that.
And your archived art is safe on the blockchain for as long as Tezos exists, so it ain't going nowhere.
But I promise, yeah, I will have a marketplace up, and you will be able to list them for sale, and they will be compatible.
and you will be able to list them for sale and they will be compatible.
And currently though, I don't know if you're aware,
you can list them for sale on object.com. If you want, they should be,
we, we, for our zero.
I know I did. And I didn't want to though. I want, I'm trying to,
I'm trying to do something different.
I want to build up away from the same voice. I've realized that. Yeah.
All of it. I gave a lot and I tagged a lot and I've realized that, yeah, all of it, I gave a lot
and I tagged a lot
and I want to build
up our community bigger and differently.
Fair enough.
I'll wait. That's my point.
I'll wait for you.
I'm good.
It's really good to have that kind of diligence
and kind of set your
own goals and how
you can contribute to the ecosystem for uh the most recent uh collaboration that i did with uh
para and skulls army for our zero contract meant to kind of experiment with the collaborate
collaboration aspect uh we decided to compromise in the sense that while we're waiting for the ability to list it
out of 10 editions we listed three of them over on object so that at least if somebody did want
to go ahead and snag it that we could still give them the opportunity so just something
just kind of wanted to share how we did it if you wanted to compromise but completely i did i did
five editions there and then i was saving five for the Xero app. And then I decided I don't want to. I actually delisted everything that was an object and I'm starting to build fresh on TIA and new projects. Yeah, I just I don't I don't know. I just want to be a bit more focused and doing different something different you know very considerate and i'm sure that the the builders
at tia are very appreciative and i'm always under the impression that we should be supporting tia
more after all it is the extension of the hen spirit with that being said i don't want to leave
the other people up here that have come up to talk hanging much longer how are you doing today ryan
hello can you hear me?
Loud and clear.
We can hear you.
Yeah, we can hear you.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, man, this conversation really
is very, very relevant to what we're doing right now.
Just today, we went to prepping for TezCon. TezCon, again, is June 28th, West Seattle. I just reached out to YesTeam this week about showcasing the Xero contract at TESCOM this year.
So, yeah, I don't know if he told you that yet, but yeah, Jams the Blues, it was nice hearing kind of where you're coming from, you know, like, and how you got involved with all this.
And it's very, very cool. I really do think, like, this contract really is, like,
what the ecosystem needs right now, you know. So, yeah, no, thank you for doing all of that. Just to answer TP's question is that the way,
I'm not sure how the Xeo contract itself works,
but I think object pretty much indexes all the tokens
that are being created on the Tezos ecosystem.
So what they do is, they index the TEA tokens
as well as the Xero tokens, it seems like.
And then you can use their platform to do swaps,
like get listings and sales.
uh get less things and sales so you know that's basically their business model um you know for
So that's basically their business model.
what it's worth uh object did ask the team for permission to do that before they started doing
it so um you know we have we have a pretty good relationship with them but but uh when you um
you know when you sell sell sell about your works on taaya, that's kind of our own thing.
So we don't...
Shoot, I think you rubbed there, Ryan.
Right at the end of the, it's kind of its own thing.
That's all I heard, too.
And now we're not here.
Make it whatever.
That's kind of, we belong
to the community itself, right?
So there's
interest in having, like, the zero
token.
What Ryan is trying to say right now as his computer or something rugs is that if the interest is there perhaps zero contract devs can have a discussion with tia and that that could possibly
be integrated to show up um i hope that's what you're trying to say but again you're rugging
right now.
Hey, I'd be absolutely honored to work with Teo on getting that ball rolling.
Yeah, I think that would be a fantastic integration and cooperation to happen in Tezos.
And I agree with what you're saying as far as that I feel like this zero contract is absolutely something that the ecosystem needed even if it didn't know
it and it's going to continue kind of uh flourishing a whole new movement of its own
oh absolutely no it'll be especially with this new indexer i'm building specifically for fully
on chain zero contract nfts integrating it into any platform is going to be worlds easier because
i'm going to release my own apis where you don't have to do any of the work in-house. Definitely appreciated it. And
I think more and more artists that continue to try it will appreciate Jestem and Jamst2Blue's
efforts. And again, very, very excited for a potential marketplace coming up where people can completely have control over not just deploying and minting, but also sales.
Papa, how are you today?
I'm good. I'm good.
I first hit the request button when y'all were talking about updating artwork and metadata on minted pieces.
You can do that on other chains.
How and whether you should do that is an interesting conversation that I think is worth having.
Are non-fungible tokens suddenly becoming a little more fungible?
It's a fun conversation to be had.
I agree with that.
I think that the important initial differentiating factor there is that right as introducing this tech,
they're saying the person that meant it needs to own all the tokens.
In other words, it's essentially like before you put it on the shelf and have that kind of complication
i think that is probably the right compromise there because at the end of the day i agree
with where you're headed with that papa that if people collect and are holding and then you
change what they have probably not okay yeah but it does definitely open the door to like
either buying back work that you want to do like art upgrades on like say your
process has changed a lot um you you then have a whole nother another opportunity to to re-showcase
what you're doing especially if it's in like a set or a collection um where where the provenance
matters you don't want to just burn and re-host so did you have any question
in that regard that you wanted to ask now?
Yeah, I mean,
I really like it for
fixing issues, especially
on-chain more expensive
mince, but I'm curious
if there were other
use cases that you had in mind
that's been building this out.
The use case that you brought up is probably the most important one
um you know outside of what we've already talked about in here i personally can't think of any
other use case for it but it is a really big kind of game changer when it comes to i don't know how
many times i've done it i have i have zero contracts on my mainnet account that are broken, messed up contracts that I can't delete or get rid of. I can't do anything with the tokens in them.
record that always exists regardless of whether you burn something or not and it does save a lot
of gas fees and time to be able to just pre-upload and and change that metadata and like you know
yoshi said spot on uh you can't alter the metadata after it's been sold you have to own all the
tokens which is super important because that would be very shady if fully on-chain artwork could be changed if you weren't the owner of it.
The one counter-argument to that, I've seen some projects use it as kind of a hack to turn.
So if you know, like a community member has had a wallet compromised, for instance, and they no longer control, you know, a valued piece, you can swap it out for like a poop emoji or something, you know, and reissue the token.
There's just a whole level of spectrum there because you get the same thing with clawback mechanisms on blockchains.
And like there's a whole debate there of if that's
at all acceptable or when it is you know so you get like for example um cash back on your crypto.com
purchases that can be clawed back if you break the rules right that that exists for a reason
but it's not very decentralized and i guarantee there is just an ongoing debate that's always
going to be had around it that being said real, I do want to acknowledge TP, you had your hand up.
Just a quick question about the contract and the image swapping possibilities. Yes, of course,
I think, I mean, I would only do that. I have currently all of my editions. I'm curious about, because we talked about file sizes again.
So say when I've done contracts
outside of Tezos,
say for example, Manifold,
they did ASCII image metadata.
So I'm curious if
when we write these contracts
and we were to do an image swap,
could we do something like where we're doing
an ascii that's that's the data on blockchain do we have to create uh a file size exactly the same
same name and stuff when we do that can we switch it to a gif um or does it have to be like how does
that work i'm curious about that as somebody who wants to do that i'm interested
in trying especially for my first mint i did i did say that my resolution was crap i tried to do too
much uh with too much information and and kind of do a whole bunch of loss lists so it didn't quite
work that well but um what is uh the image swap mechanism that you're that maybe others can learn of this, including myself.
So if you're wanting to update the contract you already deployed that was on version 3,
you won't be able to do that.
That is immutably forever on chain.
The best you could do with that older version 3 contract is to continue adding tokens to that contract,
or you can burn the ones that you already have and then hide them which you know most marketplaces are
automatically hide burn tokens so you don't have to worry about that but as
far as the new contract goes the four version 4 contract has an edit token
metadata entry point that allows you to alter the metadata the token nat and any strings or bytes within the metadata
which allows you to swap out anything in that json that is generated when you mint a token
on tezos so for for those of you who are not familiar and want to get more familiar with what that is if you go to
tzkt explorer or you go to better called better dashed call dot dev you can see
what I'm talking about in the tab on either of those sites called entry
points and that's where the entry point will be for how to control all of the
contract details and how to interact with the contract. It's done through those little entry points that allow you to manipulate the
code within the contract.
And the other thing to look at would be the token metadata and the metadata
is TZIP 16 storage data itself, which allows you to see the full JSON file of what you're...
When you type in the form, the name and the symbol and the description and the authors,
and you put in a recipient address and you add royalties and you add tags,
all the things that go into a token and into a contract are on those pages, on
the metadata page and the token metadata page.
And that is all code.
And when you click the upload button, you're putting your file into a machine that converts your image into hex,
or first into a string,
and then stores it as hex inside of Tezos bytes.
And then to be able to see that again,
to be able to read it back,
someone has to create a marketplace or a viewer that allows us to pull that string,
reverse engineer it from hex into the string
and then format it in a way that codecs on your monitor
can display or play audio
in whatever your browser you're viewing it in.
Really well explained, I appreciate that.
I think that that's an aspect of digital art that is not discussed enough is like, what are we even really doing? And how is it working in the back end? So appreciate that. And also great question, TP.
I do think we need to kind of reach towards the end of the space here,
guys.
This has been so much fun.
I really appreciate every single one of you for being here.
Jam is always going to let you have some closing words,
but it looks like you just kind of went down as a listener.
I don't know if that was an accident,
but thank you so much for coming up today and chatting with us about
everything that you've got going on.
There you are as a speaker again.
I got rugged.
Well, welcome back.
Do you have any closing words for us?
No, I just, I guess what I usually say is just keep creating no matter what.
Keep creating, keep pushing forward and
peace, love and rock and roll
Amen
I second that, again thank you guys
so much for coming to another Tezos
Commons Artsy Friday, we will
see you next week and we are about to
close out with an
awesome track by Fendel De La
Crème called Planet 4
hope you guys enjoy.
And as always, when it comes to our intro and outro songs,
if you enjoy them, find them at the top
and go listen to them with some headphones.
Enjoy the visuals as they are meant to be enjoyed.
Hope you guys like it, and we will talk to you again next week. Good man, we ask that you send one representative to board our craft.
Next to board and control, next to board and control, are you there yet?
Okay, Steve, got you on the speaker. I'm ready to go. Thank you. We have for hours been viewing your people in many parts of your Earth.
Well, Steve, what brought them here?
We did, Hank.
Pretty rad.
That must be the Martian communication vibrations we were told about. Thank you. Planet 4, Greetings, planet. Thank you. The ship is tremendous. It's huge. It's what you're doing. If gamma is to the power of epsilon to the seventh vector E aí an absolute adventure great song findle and thank you for minting so that we have music to play
more musicians please mint your art on object and tia and on chain if you can fit it thank you guys
so much for coming to another Artsy Friday.
It's been an absolute pleasure having Jams to Blues up here.
Make sure to share it with your friends.
Have them listen to the recording
because there was a lot of great chats in here
that could help give people clarity about mincing fully on chain
as well as just understanding the depth and meaning
and amazingness of Jams Blue's art. So we really
appreciate you guys tuning in today and we will see you next week and I hope you have a super
artsy weekend. Love you all. Thank you.
