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Artz Friday with @UnitedSaints
Recorded: March 14, 2025 Duration: 1:05:04Space Recording
Short Summary
The conversation covers various aspects of the crypto space, including the launch of projects on Tezos, trends in digital art and decentralization, and fundraising efforts to integrate Tezos art into virtual environments.
Full Transcription
Welcome, everybody. Thanks for hopping in the room so quickly, United Saints. Great to have you here.
Welcome, Skulls, welcome Blangs, welcome Dead Cell. This is going to be another awesome Marti Fadde with Tazos Commons.
We're going to be chatting with United Saints today. I'm going to let Cryptonial get in here.
We're going to get things set up. We've got an opening track for y'all, and then we will get started.
There's our co-host. Here we go. We'll get started here in just a second, guys. And thank you so much again for tuning in. Welcome, Randall.
Hey, there we go. We have things set up here and our opening track today is Pearls of the Persian Sea by Abtine Zahid.
And we will pin it to the top. Hope you enjoy guys.
So peaceful.
Hope everybody enjoys that.
Definitely go check out the artist on Object.
They've got some amazing soundtracks.
Welcome, everybody.
To another Artsy Friday.
Thank you so much for being here.
Right off the bat, we've got a beautiful room filling up here.
Tesos Teddy in the building, Tara Bitcoins, Unreal Box, Randall Skulls, Rob, Retro.
And we've got a couple others in here, too.
I see Paro.
We got Fendell here, M.B. Cats.
We have B. Artem.
Thank you guys so much for joining us today.
Without further ado, let's introduce our guest today. United Saints. How are you today, United Saints?
I am doing well. How are you?
I'm great. I'm in a good mood this morning. So we are going to be, first of all, discussing...
United Saints journey on Tezos and some of the stuff that we've seen her meant on object.
But I'm going to kind of giving you, giving her a hard time right off the bat because in DMs several times was like, I'm not an artist.
I'm not an artist.
And I just, that's one of my pet peeves, especially when you go and see somebody's creations and they're beautiful and thought out.
And there's depth and meaning and they move you.
So we just dropped the gym of the week thread and we are showcasing some of United Saints work on object.
We will also pin that to the top.
But my first question is when did you discover blockchain?
Where did it all start?
Well, let's see.
I think it was probably late 2018 when I heard about blockchain technology.
Okay.
And I was very excited about it and I was very excited about the tech and possible use cases for it.
And I was thinking more along the lines of like real estate and, you know, ownership of things.
And then I, you know, I started learning about the technology first.
And I was just like, okay, this is the wave of the future.
This is what's going to happen.
And I thought, you know, I want to position myself so I understand it and maybe I could make something in it.
And I think I'd.
bought my first NFT maybe the end of 2018 or early 2019.
And it was actually a piece of art. I don't know if anybody remembers the sense community,
a sense like a penny, you know, C-E-N-T-S.
And I think it's still going, but I'm not part of it now.
But an artist had a tree, a scents tree, and it had like little, it was very colorful and beautiful, I thought.
And she wanted to sell it.
And I had some ETH, but I didn't have enough for gas.
So she actually lowered her price so I could buy it.
And that was just like, that's one of my favorite NFTs to date because, of course, it was my first NFT.
And I think it was on Maker's Place.
that I bought it from.
And then I moved into Metaverse land.
And then I just kind of, things just kind of paused for a while.
And then 2020 came and everything started climbing.
And I got back interested in it again.
And then I found out about crypto defy.
And I was very excited about that.
And I learned all about, oh, well, maybe this is the future of money.
You know, not just recording things, but maybe the future of money.
So I started learning about that and wanting to be in a position of that.
But it wasn't until 2023 that I really started looking at art and things like that.
And, you know, NFTs for the sake of art.
So that's my journey in crypto so far.
There's a lot more in between all of that, but that's the summary.
That's interesting and that's kind of, you know, my journey was kind of parallel to that in the sense that I had just kind of taken a break from trying to gig every day around town and make my living that way and went to blockchain because I was intrigued by the tech and the trading and the potential of what it could be before I even really realized that art could be part of that.
So for me, at first, blockchain was kind of a way to take a break from the art, ironically, after spending a decade, you know, being a starving artist.
But from there on, like, I find it fascinating when people tell me about them buying NFTs in 2018, because I was playing around in 2017 and beyond, but really didn't even get clued into Ethereum.
art and NFTs. It just didn't even cross my radar. And then it was my first introduction of NFTs was quite literally when Hickad Nook came out.
So I find that interesting and it also makes me curious about your current PFP and the story behind that because I know that based off of it is probably pretty early NFT as well.
It is an early NFT, but like I said, I wasn't really into, you know, PFP art or collecting or anything like that until later.
But as you can see, there might be a couple other punks in here.
Dead cells here. Thank you for showing up.
Low effort punks.
is a homage to all the cash grabs.
And the artist, the anonymous artist, Leph, we call him Low Efford Punk,
made one of ones of all 10,000 cryptopunks, basically,
made in one minute without care.
So, you know, there's a corresponding crypto punk to my punk,
there's a corresponding crypto punk to dead cells zombie punk.
And, you know, there's kind of a culture behind the low effort punks.
It's still a very vibrant community.
And in fact, when we were minting them, you know, I did buy them, you know, they didn't mint out until late 2023 when the OpenC was going to migrate off of their lazy mint project.
So you had to get them all done.
You know, they minted at 01. Our floor is something like 0304 right now, 0.04, 0304, E. So, I mean, for a community project, you know, it's still going pretty strong.
But really, yeah, I mean, the floor isn't really what we care about. It's really more about the community, but it's fun.
What I find especially fascinating about that is especially when you're looking at them from such a small perspective, like at a glance on social media and stuff.
Like I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of people that are just glancing in that and assuming it's a regular punk.
And you would have to like click on it to like see the quote unquote low effort of it.
Right. And really, I mean, we say, you know, it's it's low effort but fine art because there's no pixels. You know, this is a hand drawn piece. So, but yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's yeah, it's kind of more just, uh,
You know, I hate to say culture, but it really is just for the culture.
I've met some amazing people through low-effort punks.
I actually met some in IRL at a people meetup for punks.
There was a heavy low-effort punk contingency there, so that was wonderful.
But yeah, I think that that kind of the punk, I have a lot of PFPs I love.
You know, I could talk about chum chums forever.
You know, they're really part of why I'm in Tesos right now.
I would have never met Paul without the chum chums.
And those are the cute little kitties.
I don't know.
Do we have any cute little kitties in this space yet?
No, I don't see any yet.
But, yeah, I mean, I really like, you know, art, art,
but there's some PFP projects that I love because of the community.
But, you know, the punk is kind of me.
You know, while I love blockchain and I love what people are doing in the space, I think
Yoshi already knows that I don't suffer fools and I am very cynical about some things that
happen here, you know, in the space.
So I want to make sure that it's a good place for everyone and that we're doing things
right.
What I really admire, and this is our first time really talking voice to voice,
but one of the things I admire about you and your persona is that you say that,
but then there's a lot of heartwarming interactions I see between you and the community at the same time.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I love it here. I don't want to leave. I'm not like,
I think it's very easy to get wrapped up in some of the negative things that happen in crypto.
and in the space in general, but there's so many amazing things happening that, you know,
I want to stay and I want to see what happens with it.
Totally.
But I guess what I get what I'm saying there is that when somebody typically says that they
consider themselves cynical, you would think to see that, for example, in the art that they
create.
But like, I was scrolling through your art many times over the past weeks and just thinking,
like, this is so...
lovey like there's so much like passion and in like depth to what you're putting out and i don't even
know if you realize it um no probably not
Yeah, I guess I wouldn't expect that.
Yeah, I think that I am very cynical and I think, you know, sometimes I think, wow, this art makes me seem like I'm some sort of hard-ass, you know, grouch, but good.
I'm glad that that may not be coming through as hard as I think it is.
I think what I'm seeing is a duality.
Like you don't hold back your cynicism, but you're also a loving person.
And I think that both show in a lot of these compositions that you're putting out as NFTs.
For example, this piece called intimacy.
It's like one of the ones I said in the thread that I really want to pick your brain about because it's...
It is so dual. It's the duality is the best word for it.
You have this, this lover or this person that has never experienced love based off of your description.
But what can you talk about this piece?
Like what does it mean to you?
What inspired it?
Sure.
So this piece is actually based on a piece of sheet music that was recovered.
Right.
And I think it was called Among the Poppies or something like that was the name of the music that was underneath it.
And I think, you know, it may be like turn of the century, 1920s type stuff.
And I just, you know, I kind of fell in love with, you know, it's kind of decay.
And of course it was just the woman, you know, not, and it was just one woman sitting among poppies.
You know, and it was black and white except for there was some color to the top poppies.
And I just, I found this piece maybe three, four years ago.
You know, just I saw the image and I saved it.
And I didn't know what I was going to do with it, but it just spoke to me somehow.
So I wanted to do something with it.
And finally, I don't know what made me think of it again.
I went back and looked at it.
And I just started basically messing with it.
You know, and poppies, you know, the theme of poppies always makes me kind of think of death of sleep.
of things like that. And the woman was just very, looked very sensual, but she was on her own.
You know, so I'm like, what, you know, what is that face? You know, what is she looking at?
You know, with a face like that when there's no one else in this frame. So that's what made me think of a
mirror image. And at first I had the mirror image and I was working with it and I thought I was
done and I looked at it and I said, well, I don't like the mirror image. And then I said, oh, I know who
she's looking at now.
And, you know, and it makes more sense to me, you know, to put, put, you know, a skull, you know, to look death, that she was looking death in the face. And she was intimate with death, even though she's not yet touched by it. I think that's something I said something like that in the description.
And yeah, so I mean, I think that it was just something that kind of sat with me.
And a lot of my pieces are things that I think about or I have a phrase in my head and I want to put it on paper.
And that's how it comes out.
And, you know, we can start to, we can talk about AI, but in this case, it was actually just an image that I had.
And I just kind of stuck with me for a very long time.
There's something to be said about that.
And I do think that, I mean, even with my own art journey, I look through some of my early NFTs and think like, oh, man, I did this just without AI, just through manipulation and processing and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it, it.
It's interesting. We have so much AI coming out now that you almost just want to assume that some of these types of compositions involved it. But not necessarily. We had technologically savvy tools before AI that did things to help us make what we wanted easier.
Yeah.
So yeah, of course I did use, you know, I did use some tools to make this happen, you know, for the mirror image and some of the, you know, I made it degradated a little bit more.
I colored the poppies, you know, all of those things.
But, yeah, I mean, I really do like using things more in a collage type manner and using things from the past.
But I still love AI.
I mean, I do definitely use that as a tool.
Yeah, for sure. But I think that the fact that you, you mentored this year and didn't and chose not to use AI for it, it's, there's a statement there. It's pretty cool. And that by now, y'all, if you listen to the show, you know I'm a huge supporter and fan of AI. No problems with it whatsoever.
I just want to say real quick, thank you guys so much for being here.
This is a really filled up room and a bunch of beautiful faces.
Really appreciate every single one of you for tuning in and hanging out with Tesos Commons
as we interview United Saints.
This is Artsy Friday.
We do this every Friday, same time, same place.
And the last Friday of every month, we do a community call.
We do see that we have some requests, and we will absolutely have anybody up that wants to chat here in a little while to ask United Saints questions.
We are not ignoring you.
Yeah, and if you're in the What the Fuck Game Show, make sure you're taking a screenshot of the thing so you can get credit.
Some people may just be here for the tokens.
So I don't feel bad about that.
So there's a good segue.
Let's talk about the What the Fuck Game Show.
Like we're both in that chat room.
What's happening?
What's going on?
What are we even doing?
Yeah, what are we even doing?
Maybe I should be asking you.
Well, right now it's round zero, which is better than what it's been for the last three months, because we weren't even in a round, but we were in a game show.
And around zero is, I think, and Paul's in the room, so he can absolutely correct me, I think it is a litmus test to see if you're really committed to playing the game.
Yeah.
You know, we all love being in the game show and we love, you know, talking to each other.
I don't think there's any chat that's busier than that chat on a daily basis.
I got to interrupt and agree with you that it literally, it's the only place in the internet that feels like 2021 bull run energy.
Like the chat is just so lit up that like you have to remind yourself, oh, wait, that's just this one little.
That's one little echo chamber happening. It's not the whole market.
Exactly. But I mean, you know, 60 people in crypto, that's, you know, that's got to be at least 80% of the people in crypto, I would think.
But so, so yes, but now, you know, now it comes down to the wire, you know, where now the rubber is hitting the road, as they say.
And we have to do things and we have to show that we are committed to the game show. And Paul
doesn't just want to give us cool art as prizes. He wants us to learn about Tezos and he wants us to learn about the community and of course understand
What Tezos is about and for me Tezos is about art and it's also about the community
So you know each of these things that we do he's tricking us into learning things that we haven't learned before or we may be making connections that we didn't have before
You know, I met Paul through the Chum Chums, which is an ETH project.
But I don't even know if Paul even has any ETH right now because he's, you know, he's a Tezos maxi now.
And he loves Tezos and this game show, which has to be, I mean, if I were Paul, I wouldn't be doing the game show because it really is just chaos 24-7.
I mean, there's never, there's very few times in the chat that it's.
it's low energy.
And we're always doing things that are against what he wants us to do.
And yet he still, you know, he lets us do it to a point.
But he does it for the love of Tezos, and I appreciate that.
And I don't know where the game is going to go from here, but right now we're creating posters for
a What the Fuck Game Show for a online rave.
We're making a PFP for someone to choose for the What the Fuck Game Show Twitter space.
We're making a theme song for the What's Fuck Game Show and everyone, you know, will earn tokens to do these things.
They may not be chosen, but they will earn tokens just for the effort.
They're getting tokens in space for attending Tezzo spaces like this one.
So there's a lot of things that just show that you have, you know, the intent to, you know, contribute to the community and to the game.
It's really a beautiful initiative just for that in itself.
It's got a bunch of people without really even quite processing what they're doing it for.
It's kind of the joke of it.
It's like, all right, I'm not even sure what I'm winning if I win this whole thing.
But let's just keep going because we're here.
We've come this far and already handled and tolerated so much chaos.
Let's just keep going.
Exactly. Yeah, at this point, it's just sunk in cost because how many hours have we spent in that chat?
No, but it's beautiful.
And I think at the end of the day, first of all, just to speak for Paul here, he doesn't want to be running this.
He wants it to be a community effort and, you know, tries to put together boards to help kind of like take some of the weight off of them, which we should, you know, as a community try to honor as much as we can.
But at the end of the day, you know, they do carry the burden of being the person that came up with the idea.
Yeah.
We've seen this with Hash Brown of Testones and stuff.
But at the end of the day, I love Paul Who is a ghost initiatives.
Like we've got, this is a raid.
You know, we've got the What the Fuck Game Show.
You know, he was one of my teammates on the villains for Testones.
And really, really looking forward to Tescon this year where I'll get to hang out with Paul again.
Awesome.
So that's the other thing I wanted to talk to you about is that it seems like you are really into collecting art.
And I'm curious when that started and like how we can go from there into talking about this as a raid maybe.
Okay.
Yeah, like I said, I, you know, I liked NFTs, but it was really more for ownership.
The first NFT after that art piece was land in crypto voxels.
And I don't know if you're aware of that,
but it's one of the first Metaverses that were out there
run by Ben Nolan.
And it was one of those that ran up very high, you know, in the hype.
But, you know, I thought, oh, okay, well,
Metaverse might be something, you know,
but I really didn't think of it as art.
But then once I got in there, you know,
and I'm walking the Metaverse, people are displaying art.
I'm like, well, where are they getting that art from?
And then I started learning about, you know, not just the eth-chain, because, you know, when you first learn about technology and you're learning it from, you know, one of the blockchain courses, you hear about Bitcoin and you hear about Ethereum.
You know, and then once I got into it, I'm like, oh, there's Polygon and there's Phantom and there's, you know, all these, you know, other layers of networks that you can use.
And so then that's when I started paying attention to some of the art.
I'm not.
Art I always admired, but it was so distant for me.
You know, I grew up in a very conservative family.
I grew up in a rural area.
So art was something that you may go to a museum and see, you know, once in a year, you know, and see masters work.
Or, you know, something very avant-garde, you know, and you see it once.
And that's, oh, that's amazing.
But it's not something that I incorporated into my everyday life.
So when I started seeing art in crypto and when I realized that, you know, getting back into the space in 2020, late 2022, early 2023, seeing art on the timeline on Twitter every day.
I'm like, I want more of this.
Oh my gosh.
Me, little old me can see these beautiful artworks every single day.
I have access to them.
And what?
I can talk to the artist.
That's when I started getting very excited about art.
And I started looking more into it.
And, you know, no.
Just noticing more and just being more exposed to it.
And then I started, of course, collecting when I could.
That's so beautiful.
And I got to say, again, there's a parallel to my experience.
You know, I was always into music.
So, like, there was kind of like that little wall where it was like,
I didn't really have a reason to dive in and understand...
paintings and stuff like that. But I always would stop and admire them at my family's houses.
And like, you know, when I'd go out to a party or something and I'd always stop and be taken aback by visual art.
But I kind of say that's probably what is the most exciting thing about this technology and these communities is that I feel like there's got to be thousands and thousands of
our experiences and their unique forms where people are just being being presented more art in general on a daily basis and then having that moment for the first time maybe in their lives where they say hey hang on
I can actually see this anytime I want now.
And the artist is one click away from being able to talk to them.
And that's where I really feel like this whole digital renaissance concept is real.
And not just real, but very significant.
And something that I think hundreds of years now historians are going to be looking back at and saying like, holy crap, this was like the biggest quote unquote bull market for art in history of mankind.
Right.
I mean...
I mean, when you think about the artists that you have collected, how would you have known about them in any other way?
You just wouldn't.
You wouldn't know about the artists from Iran.
You wouldn't notice about the artist from Palestine.
You wouldn't, you know, notice, no, even an artist from your own country because they're so small.
And they would have no access to give that to you, you know.
But here, you know, if you have a little bit of Tess in your wallet, you can mint and you can show it to so many people.
And so many people can enjoy it and own it.
I mean, that, you know, that's my dream of decentralization, that that's where our power lies, that we can use these things to spread not only, you know, possibly financial independence, but beauty, you know, and creation and the act of creation.
And what more of a time do we need it, really?
It's like, that's like, I was actually saying this to my mom last week when we were hanging out, that like,
I am more and more finding so much purpose and what we do here, especially with the chaos and the world around us and the wars and the fighting and the division.
And it feels almost like there couldn't, honestly, there couldn't be a more productive, powerful thing to be doing right now.
Mm-hmm.
Absolutely. I agree. And I think that's, you know, anytime I'm salty on the timeline, it's because I feel that, you know, we're getting back to the, you know, the gated, you know, way of doing things, you know, and the exclusive and, you know, all of those things. You know, I am not interested in somebody that can, that can already spend their, you know, can sell their art for a million dollars. You know, I'm not interested in that. I will see that. Trust me. I'm sure it'll be everywhere.
I want to know about someone that's just learning, that's just starting out, that has a great idea,
but, you know, doesn't have access to the things that a millionaire has.
You know, I appreciate people.
I appreciate people for what he does for the space and, you know, the communities, but he's okay.
He doesn't need my support right now.
So that's when I get salty.
No, I completely agree.
And there's just that level of, it's kind of like,
bred into us over time and society to feel FOMO for those big things that come and come and go.
And it's like it's, I don't think it's anybody's fault.
And I think all of us get caught up in it to it, caught up caught up in it to one level or another.
But at the end of the day, I fully agree with what you're saying and what feels the best and what I feel like makes the most memories is supporting, like you said, the artist that without this wouldn't have a chance.
Yeah. I feel very strongly about that.
I think that, yeah, there's a balance there.
Because, you know, if it wasn't for the Bibles, would we have the same amount of eyes looking to discover the smaller artists?
Maybe not.
But.
Yeah.
And I understand that.
But I will always punch up.
You know what I mean?
I don't feel bad about that.
No, not at all.
Wow.
This room just keeps filling up.
You guys are awesome.
Thank you for being here.
Again, this is Artsy Friday with Tezos Commons.
We're chatting with United Saints.
And I'm going to pick your brain a little bit more about some of your works.
Another one that really just I just absolutely love is one of the ones we put in the gym of the week thread.
Love is a myth.
Number three, you are mine with the unicorn and the little hearts that actually say you are mine.
I got to know where did this start?
What did it start as?
How did you make it?
It's beautiful.
It's deep.
See, now, I feel bad because I'm kind of made these tongue in cheek because, you know, we had the Valtez event, right?
And I wanted to make something that was very heartsy and flowery and pink, because that is part of me.
But I also, you know, I don't like the Valentine commercialism or anything like that.
So I wanted to kind of...
you know, go, okay, so what's, you know, when people say love is a myth, what else is a myth?
Oh, unicorns. Everybody loves unicorns. You know, unicorn Pegasuses. I think there's another one that's actually a winged unicorn, you know.
So, so I wanted to say, you know, love is a myth, unicorn is a myth. You know, that's kind of the thing.
So I used AI for these.
And the first, the image itself was not, you know, didn't look embossed or anything like that.
So that I had to use some other software to get that look for it.
And I believe I probably edited in GIMP.
That's the other thing.
Most of the stuff that I use for editing is open source.
You know, I use Blender for my 3D stuff.
I use Gimp for any of my...
photo editing, or many times I will use Microsoft 3D paint or whatever, I think it is.
It's one of the things that comes free in your Microsoft, you know, if you have a, if you have a PC.
And, you know, I don't know much technical stuff, but I will learn it to get whatever effect I want.
And this is one of those.
I saw something like that the same week I made this.
And I'm like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if I could like kind of like make it look etched or embossed or something?
And so I just played with things until I could get that kind of 3D image look to it.
And I was really happy how it turned out.
It's really cool.
And the colors just came, I'm not quite sure how I got those colors, but I just really loved them after I looked at them for a while.
I'm like, wow, that looks good.
So I wish I could tell you more about it, but I just kind of messed around until it got there.
And I wanted, for some reason, because I wanted it to be kind of like a,
of Valentine, I wanted to have the words on it, you know, because I was thinking of the little,
you know, candy hearts that have you are mine on it or be mine or things like that. So I kind of
wanted to have that feel too because those colors kind of gave me that, that feeling as well.
And that's what's interesting is when I was looking at this, there was like, you know,
I've been looking at more and more art lately. And it's like I had a feeling that there was
AI involved in it. But I also was like, there's no way AI did.
that depth that you added in post. There's no way that it did such a perfect job at the actual letters fitting on the hearts the way it did.
So that's kind of perfect, but you're on there.
Perfect is an interesting word. You know, in general, it's it looks intentional, I guess is what I'm trying to say, right?
So that's really cool.
And I think that's one of those things that we keep, that we continue to learn as we look at art in the era of AI is that it was an assistant in creating this end goal that you had, right?
Absolutely.
And, you know, and, you know, I know you tease me about saying I'm not an artist.
But I do that because I know that there are many people that have been trained as an artist,
that are professional artists that are making a living or trying to make a living as an artist.
And I don't want to take anything away from those people.
And to be absolutely fair, no one has ever made me feel like that in the Tezos community.
Everyone has been super welcoming.
But the other thing about that is that I don't know about composition.
I don't know about depth.
I don't know anything about those things.
So for me to say that I'm an artist...
would I think would be, you know, just not correct, you know, ingenuous.
I just, I don't, I wouldn't like that.
But I like messing around. That's whatever that is.
Right. Well, that, you know, again, this is a, this is a debate for the ages.
You know, at the end of the day, the fact that you just mess around and don't know, quote unquote, what you're doing and are able to put together something that feels composed and intentional.
I'd say to most people means that you are at least artsy.
Yeah, I mean, I agree that, you know, I make things that could be considered art,
but I would consider myself an artist.
I create things.
I'll take that.
Your sentiment is appreciated.
And I'm sure that there are artists.
And here's the thing.
I went to like music school.
Like I went to college for music and they tried to drill into my head like, this is theory.
This is how you compose a song.
This is right and this is wrong.
And that's a little bit of where my perspective comes from and like, screw all that noise.
Nobody's going to tell me what art is and how or how not to do something.
You know, so that's where that comes from in my world.
And I understand that too.
Yeah.
You know, I will always respect, you know, their opinion.
Yeah.
And you can, you know, there's a lot of times where you can just experience that.
You know, you have somebody, oh, speaking of some people that you experience that with.
Guys, heads up.
Apparently, A.L. Kregos account has been hacked.
Be very, very, very careful interacting with that account right now.
Even down to interacting with the NFTs minted by that account, just pause.
Let it all get sorted.
Don't get, don't, you know, don't get screwed by a scammer trying to take advantage of one of our big names in the space.
But yeah, that's kind of where I was going before I realized I should stop to say that is that you do catch moments with people where it's like, oh, my God, this is just on a different level of artistic understanding and like experience, you know.
Yeah, and every once in a while, Paul will hit me with that.
You know, I'll show him something.
I'm like, look, I made this in Photomosh.
And he's like, you know what you should do?
You should put four more layers on it.
And then when you take an overlay and then you do this.
And then I'm like, oh, well, I probably won't do that, but thank you.
And I do want to shout out to Unreal and Dead Cell because they've actually done some
clubs with me.
And Dead Cell and I have Dead Web, uh,
was it dead web productions deadwood i can't remember what it was so we've got some things in the works
so that's good um and a few other people i've done some uh collabs with so um i'm always i'm always
you know honored to do collabs with artists in the space so if you don't mind me
picking your brain a little bit on that what when you when you do collabs what is your role
typically within the collaboration um
Sometimes it's prompting the AI.
Sometimes it's just, let's see, with the,
with Unreal, it was the origin image and it was started in AI,
and then I edited it in Gimp to get what we were looking for.
I think that that's still on primary on one of mine.
I think it's called Sanctified.
So it's on my page and it's on Unreal's because I think we minted it together.
And then with Dead Cell, he's more into the music, so he may make the music or he may glitch it. He's very good at glitch art. So he may do some of the glitch work for it.
or use his AI capabilities to make a gif out of it and things like that.
We have a few things in the works that was inspired by Paul,
Mother Folkerson Soap Company.
It's kind of this dystopian industrial, post-industrial type art.
So that's coming up as well.
That's really great. And that's one of the things that I notice is that you do seem to really enjoy the collaboration aspect that seems so vibrant on Tesos.
Yes. And I love an assignment. It makes my job easier if I have something that I can start with.
And that's the only reason I started because I think Paul said, oh, we're having a screensaver.
event. I'm like, oh, okay. I know, I have a theme, so I can start with that. And that's the one I kind of, I think one of my first mince was the screensaver event.
Oh, that's, I love that screen saver. I wanted to feature it in the gym of the week thread, but it kept saving as a web pee instead of as a gift. So I couldn't, I couldn't showcase it.
yeah i yeah i really like making those and those those were not a i that was all just piece together
and gimp and you know nonsense so well that's really really cool i definitely appreciate you
allowing me to pick your brain and tease you about the art thing and uh it's it's always good to
have people up here and get a little bit more of their perspective and the backstory and with that
being said i'm curious so you said that uh
Essentially, the reason you're into Tezos is because of Paul and that y'all met through Chum Chums.
At what stage of the Tezos stuck? What year was that?
I think that was 2020, oh, 23. Was it 2023?
Early 2023 we met, maybe? Or maybe, I don't know.
The last two years have run together. It might have been early 2024. So not very long.
this extended bear market has been quite a, quite a blending together of time.
Yeah, it might have been late 2023, if I remember correctly.
But yeah, we met in a group chat, believe it or not.
And I think I teased him and he's like, okay, well, she's one of us.
So he took me under his wing and gave me a Tess account and all that stuff.
And I figured it out from there.
And I'm still asking for stuff, but whether I listen or not, that's, that's another thing.
So there was one more piece in this Jim third that I wanted to ask you about, because it's, it's animated, it's complex, and it has sound to it.
Your luck is about to change.
Yeah.
So I was listening to a book on tape.
And one of the things they said is if something, uh,
if something seems constant it only means it hasn't changed yet and it's just stuck in my head for a long time
like like i was driving somewhere and i oh yeah i was driving up to charleston um went to visit dead self um
and it stuck in my head all the way to the drive home um for eight hours and when i got back i made that
um and it just was
I was thinking about luck, I was thinking about bad luck, I was thinking about how our lives can change in an instant.
And so, yeah, the words in the song, and that is all AI assist, but it was put together in a whole bunch of different ways.
So I made the little kitty cat with AI, I made the skull with AI.
There is in the background a broken mirror. I don't know if you can see that in the, you know, Twitter kind of squishes things.
I used Amazon Web Services for the voice, and then I mixed just beats in loops that I had in Mixcraft, and then just put it all together to that.
And so she says, you know, if something seems constant and only means it has not yet changed, your luck is about to change.
So, yeah, it's just the fortune, you know, the wins of fortune, how our lives can change either for the better or for the worst. But, you know, this two shall pass. And that's one of those things that I got to say, like when you go out into everyday life and talk to, you know,
quote unquote normies about this stuff.
It's like there almost is this like blank stare when you try to start talking about artsy stuff.
Like when you try to start talking about like that idea you got stuck with and had to get home and make it,
you know, like little things like that that like I'm telling you, you're an artist.
Okay.
Like just the fact that you had that so stuck in your head and then went home and made it and it was good.
You know, like that's just, I'm just saying like I'm just saying.
Yeah.
I think most of the people in this room, even highly trained classical artists, could agree with that sentiment for the most part.
And speaking of this room, holy moly, you guys, thank you so much for being here, M.B., Candy, Sean, Raoul, night trains in the building.
We got Rubis Coe here, Fendilla Della Crem.
We got Blada, Gaston, James, Henry, Marco Port, Parra, wow.
There are a lot of names in here I've actually never seen.
Thank you guys so much for being here.
I think it's a good time.
If anybody wants to come up and ask United Saints any questions,
I think now would be an okay time to request to come up and do so.
Just a reminder, this is not an opportunity to show.
We do that.
The last Friday of every month, you are welcome to come talk about any projects that you personally have going on in space.
While we're waiting on any potential requests, I do want to remind everybody that the at Tesos handle did drop their Friday recap.
Some really great stuff in the recap that happens every Friday.
Make sure to check that out and don't miss the many beautiful things happening within our art community.
And I know you said it's not a shill, but I do want to talk about an initiative that I am in the process of still doing.
You can show whatever you want.
You're the guest.
Okay.
So I'm in a Metaverse called The Man Who Sold the World.
And if you're following me, you'll definitely see me in World.
I'm usually either a Chum Chum, which...
The CEO, Mucacho, has generously given to me so I can make chum chums.
You know, everybody can have their own PFP as a 3D avatar.
So I'm either an avatar chum-chum or a misfit cowgirl or pirate.
But you'll see those pictures.
Right now, the man who sold the world, you can only display your ETH art.
I would love to have Tezos art, but the developer is one guy.
Okay.
He's got a lot working on because he's still developing this Metaverse.
So he said, yeah, I'll do Tezos, but it's going to cost, you know, it's going to cost somebody to pay me to do it.
So we have a Tezos adoption fund.
A lot of my art, I donate, you know, most of what I make from art into that Tezos fund.
Sometimes we have fundraisers for it.
And what I'd like to do is, you know, get,
Tezos artists in there. So I'm actually building an art colony in World. And what I'd like to do is sell people apartments in there. And any any proceeds, like 100% of the proceeds are going to go to
getting this Tezzo's art so we can display it in World because the worst thing is to have all this art in your wallet and nowhere to display it.
And it's so great to see it because now that we have VR capabilities, you can walk through World and it can be posted on a two-story wall, this art that you own.
And it's amazing.
So I'm working on that.
I still want it to be seamless where you're buying something on Tesos
and you're getting the ownership of an ETH product.
And then...
in-world, it's actually ETC, which is Ethereum Classic.
So there's a couple moving parts that I'm still trying to figure out.
Like I said, it's more of a labor of love for me just because there's so much
test art that would be amazing to be able to show.
And then we can use that for artists to showcase what they're working on.
And we can have events and we can have, you know, exhibits and things like that.
I just think it would be an amazing thing to do.
I'm just speculating. I'm not sure on this, but something tells me there is Etherlink being involved in whatever the solution is to that.
I don't know. You know I don't know anything about Etherlink.
Yeah, it's essentially, long story short, it's Tezos, but EVM enabled on layer two.
So in other words, like if you want to interact with Ethereum DAPs,
but still be using Taz, you go to Etherlink.
You know, I have purposely avoided learning about Etherlink.
But you just told me an idea that might actually be a reason to understand it.
Okay, I'll think about it.
This is one of those things about the also the green room is there are a lot of Etherlink doubters in there.
Non-maxis.
It's like if you're a Tesos Maxi, sorry, guys, you kind of got to also support Etherlink.
It's a step towards the overall Tesos X roadmap.
You know, the layer one gods are frowning, you know?
No, they're not.
Yeah.
The layer gods understand what we do not.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, anyway, yeah, long story short,
Ethan Link is still Tezos.
That's just part of the roadmap building out towards making Teso's accessible to the entire world,
no matter what code you use, no matter what you're trying to do.
Again, guys, you're welcome to come up and request to speak.
I know that we had first rain requesting a while ago,
but we wanted to wait until the question period.
We were not ignoring you.
But come on up, asking questions.
We'd love to have you up here.
I'm really surprised I'm not being trolled, considering how much I troll.
Right.
I was kind of expecting, you know,
at least somebody from the green room hopping up here right away.
I'm hoping that they're all working,
so they're just like quietly listening.
So, how about this? What artists have been really inspiring you lately, if you want to do any shotouts?
Well, as always, humans, my co-pilot, I think she's here, Humans of the Universe.
She's amazing, you know, and she, you know, does these hand-drawn things.
And she is so good at, like, capturing a moment, you know, like some of her work I know is just like small jokes, you know, that someone said or, you know, something that she picked up on in a chat or whatever in a space.
And she makes art about it.
And she makes wonderful art and thoughtful art and just so many...
It just has layers in it, yet it's very fun, and, you know, there's so much humor in it.
And I just, I appreciate everything she does.
So she's always an inspiration to me, you know, that she just, you know, is very productive.
And she must work very hard because she has just lovely, lovely art.
And I love it all.
And I wish I could get each one of them.
Unreal Box. He is a 3D master. I love everything that he makes pretty much. I'm just, I'm always in awe of what he makes and what he dreams up. So I'm always, I'm always love to see what he's got coming up.
Dead Cell, like I said, Glitchmaster.
He also has that mentality of the decentralization.
So, you know, he, a lot of the stuff, you know, we're very in sync, you know, a little
bit more anarchy, more decentralized power type stuff.
So he's been an inspiration for me. And he's one of those people that will tell me, you know, it's okay not to be perfect. It's okay to just try. It's okay just to do anything. So a lot of me just being here is because of dead cells. So he's always an inspiration to me.
Paul, of course, Paul introduced me to not only Tesdos, but to Photomash, Mosh Pro.
So I love that, and I'm learning that all the time.
That's pretty amazing.
There's so many people.
And you're putting me on the spot, I should have probably had that ready.
That's a good list.
Nobody's expecting you to remember everybody all on the spot, though, for sure.
But yeah, I'm inspired by a lot of people on a daily basis.
Like I said, I've filled my timeline with basically art.
And so every day I see something new.
It's beautiful.
That's another thing I try to tell my friends in real life.
It's like, you know, X is who you follow.
Like if you want to have an art experience on X, you just need to follow all the artists.
You know, it's one of those things that, like, definitely feel like it makes a difference in your experience of what you're getting here.
Definitely. Yeah, I mean, I could definitely have a lot more angry political posts on my stuff, but I just don't do that. I just follow, you know, I mean, and obviously, you know, things bleed into each other and that's fine. I want to know about, you know, your whole life, but, you know, I love filling it with art.
Yeah, I find the more and more I, like, just let art be the answer to pretty much all things, the happier I end up being. You know, it's like stressed out.
Go find a piece of art.
Don't understand that art.
Understand it.
And all of a sudden, you'll like enjoy it more.
Like that's at least my current place in life is like, a good example is a textelic.
Been a big, big artist in the space for a while.
And I've always noticed his work.
It's never personally like struck me and resonated with me.
And I finally said, you know what?
I want to understand this art more.
And I actually reached out to a couple of people that I know are big collectors and fans and asked questions and started looking at it as they were telling me what they thought about it.
And next thing you know, I'm like, ooh, okay.
All right.
And now I'm a fan.
Yeah. Oh yeah, Tex, yeah, I love text. I mean, I'm a horse trader, so I've got a whole bunch of horse art.
I have made art. I've traded art. You know, if you want the horse art, you got to make art.
So again, you know, I do much better with an assignment. So if I know it's about a horse, that, that I'm halfway there.
I might even trade some of those unicorns from Valdez if somebody will accept them for horse trading next time.
I'm going to have to take you up on that because I really do like that piece.
Yeah.
I think I minted a few.
The open editions get me every time because I forget I should probably mint one or two for myself.
Happens to me too.
Like, ah, man, I totally should have minted one just so I have one to do whatever with later.
And then just talking about inspiration a little bit more, being in This Is Array is also really super helpful because I get to see art that I may not have seen, but somebody else has seen and they share and you can take a look at it. So that's another way that I can see new art. We just raided the myth.
And I had seen some of his art on the timeline,
but hadn't really been paying attention.
And then, oh, we're raiding.
Well, let me see it.
And sure enough, I found something that just really resonated with me.
And I purchased it.
I'm like, wow, I'm so glad that I took a look.
Because there is a lot of art out there.
So it's sometimes hard to sort through.
And I know that some people are making it a little easier to see what you may be interested in.
But it's always good to pay attention to what's happening in the space and you may find someone new that you can fall in love with.
Yeah, I totally agree.
And that's really one of the most, like going back to one of the first things we talked about is like that's one of the coolest things about this space is it makes discovery.
a whole new playing field.
You know, like, like you said, I have, you know, a piece from Hasti,
who I can't remember exactly, but is in the Middle East.
And like, I would have never discovered her art if it wasn't for blockchain.
I got a piece from Pouty, both physical on my wall.
I love them, admire them every day.
And they're people that I would have just absolutely never been able to discover without this technology.
Absolutely.
Well, guys, one more call here.
If you have any questions, now would be the time to come up and ask United Saints.
And, you know, even if you just want to come up here from the green room and do a little bit of trolling, I think that probably would be okay, too.
I really expected it.
I was prepared.
That was the one thing I was prepared for.
Hckling.
Maybe we just got lucky.
Yay.
Thanks, guys.
I appreciate it.
No, I'm not paying you what the fuck.
Well, anything else that you want to talk about? Anything that you want to take the stage as an opportunity?
I'm just happy I made it through 57 minutes, to be honest with you.
No, you did great. And I really do appreciate you coming up today. It means a lot.
Oh, no. And thank you for having me. I do appreciate it. And thank you for letting me talk about all those things that I'm passionate about as well.
Amen.
Thank you guys so much for being here for another artsy Friday.
This has been an interview with United Saints.
Make sure to share the space, remind people that these spaces are recorded,
and then we do them on Friday.
Same time, same place with Teslo's Commons.
We do have a closing song for you.
I think that you're really going to enjoy this one.
It is called Straight from Scratch by Last Floor Boy.
Hope you enjoy, and we'll do a little bit of a closing words afterwards.
I'm going to be
my own
the world
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to do.
I'm going to do.
I'm going to do.
I'm going.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to do.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to
and I'm going
and I'm going to
I'm going to be
I'm going to be.
I'm going to
I'm going to be.
I'm going to do.
I'm going to do.
I'm going to be.
I'm not.
I'm not.
So as we were just enjoying that, I actually hadn't realized.
I just found it on object this morning as one of the first things that I clicked on and loved it.
So I chose it.
But this is actually lost Floorboy's first NFT on Tezos.
Not only that, they literally just joined Twitter.
And I got to say, like, at first I kind of had a little mini panic, like, oh, my God, I hope this isn't a bot account.
But this seems like a real person.
And that sounded like actually from scratch produced music.
Y'all go show this artist some love.
They have three followers.
They just joined us.
Let's welcome them with some open arms.
Hope you enjoyed the song as much as I did.
We'll make sure to pin that to the top.
Thank you guys so much for coming to another Artsy Friday.
Always appreciate you showing up in mass forces.
It really makes it really special and possible for us at Tesos Commons.
Make sure to...
Follow up and let us know if you want to come on to the show as an artist.
I'll be reaching out as well to do some more bookings into April.
And thank you guys so much for being here.
I hope you enjoy your Friday.
I hope you enjoy the weekend.
And keep being artsy.
We'll see you next week.
