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Artz Fridays - Community Call
Recorded: Sept. 26, 2025 Duration: 1:15:39Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant Artsy Friday community call, participants discussed exciting project launches, including a new album production utilizing blockchain for music distribution, a successful fundraising effort raising 33K Tez for Art for Humanity, and the upcoming Zero Unbound event inviting artists to contribute to a collaborative superhero-themed art collection.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Welcome, welcome.
We are getting things set up for another Artsy Friday community call as we always do on the last Friday of every month.
Thank you for being here. Make sure to retweet the room. We'll get things fired out here in just a moment.
Kryptonio, how are you doing today?
Hey, Yoshi. Doing good, man. I was just transitioning to the stage how are you i'm doing
good it's been a good week uh just uh really excited about the the john still lifes that
just finished uh the oe that just finished really really cool uh looking forward to chatting with
the community as they trickle in here thank you you for being here, George and Costa and MB.
It's great to see you guys.
We're going to get things started here in just a moment with an opening track,
and then we will open up the stage for our community call.
Make sure to let your friends know we are here.
If anybody's been working on anything, we'd love to hear from them.
So this first song, our intro song today, is actually one of my original songs, currently
available as an open edition acoustic version.
This is Here to Write, one of my more recent songs that I've written.
I hope you enjoy.
And thank you for suggesting this one, Kryptonio.
I appreciate it.
Absolutely, man.
I love it.
And yeah, I insist to play it as an intro song today. So yeah, let's hear it. Writing freely is life Makes sense of the chatter inside
To mute it is not choice Must harmonize the noise
And answer the word with rhythm and rhyme
Use my voice, amplify what I write
So new feelings within can ignite.
This is why I am alive.
This is why I am alive.
Longed for this soul to feel.
The pain is part of the deal To experience life, the humankind
It's all worth a compromise
And it's the good word with rhythm and cry compromise and dance the word
with rhythm
and cry
use my voice
and amplify what I
like
so new
feelings within
can ignite
this is
why I am alive. This is, I'm alive.
So much to process, so little time.
So I continue to write.
From carvings and stone, to everything known like poems to soul love letters to home
enhance the world with rhythm and rhyme use my voice amplify what I write
So new feelings within can ignite
This is why I am alive
This is why I am alive
This is why I am alive.
This is why I am alive.
And thank you again, Kryptonio, for suggesting that one for today.
I hope everybody enjoyed it.
It's definitely why I think I'm here, why I'm alive,
is to continue experiencing this craziness with y'all, write it down,
turn it into music,
make art with y'all, and
send it back home to the
souls inside. That's pretty
much how I see it all. So, appreciate
it. Hope you enjoyed. Welcome to another
Artsy Friday Community Call, where
it is your turn to come up if you would like to
and share what you've been building,
what you've been working on.
It's great to see you MB and George and United saints and the Tezos
community and Findle in the building.
Max Z we've got the Tezos,
the Tezos artists network here.
Appreciate you as always.
Anybody that wants to come up and share.
I know Tezos artists network,
you represent any Tezos artists and there's a huge community that works very much all the time, long running for the X algorithms.
We appreciate that. It definitely helps push us out there beyond our little bubble.
And we'd love to hear from you and any of the artists that have caught your attention lately.
attention lately randall great to see you appreciate you being here again we just played
Randall, great to see you. Appreciate you being here.
um here to write that's one of my original songs uh on the new album production that i'm working
on where there are 10 acoustic sessions currently available as open editions and that's how i'm
raising the tes to reach out to other artists in the space and produce a full album um i'm planning
on reaching out to like hash brown to work with me as an audio engineer.
And I've already talked with Findle down there, who I'd love to get some instrumentation
beyond the guitar, maybe some piano or some saxophone or whatever is inspired.
So as in the nature of community call, I'm just letting myself share a little bit of that myself today, and I'd love to chat about music with anybody in the audience as well.
your view on the music scene
in Web3 in general, I think.
Especially now with the AI music
coming in so hot, let's say.
I was checking an object to look for songs and stuff
and there is so much AI music up there, which
kind of makes it hard to dig out
the real musicians and the
people that are making music by themselves, not with AI.
Like, how do you see all this playing out?
Well, first of all, I hear you there.
And there's a couple of buzzwords you used there that I try to watch out for.
One of them being real.
And especially with AI and visual work, I have had to do my own.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't mean for visual.
But when it comes to music, I'm sorry to interrupt.
I know.
I'm getting to that.
You know what I mean.
I do.
I'm getting to that.
I'm not trying to put you on the spot. But it is still something that I face when I'm on the music side now trying to develop past frustrations with the AI. Because I do see potential for it as a tool looking for music to host on the show, it can be very frustrating how difficult it is to filter through.
in Web3, where it's more about the tools being available
to further refine your searches when looking for music on Object.
I think that's more what's going to solve that problem
because it's just inevitable that we're
going to get an inflow of whatever art is being made.
And a lot of that is AI.
You get what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, yeah,
I agree that the better tools with filtering and everything would help. But also, since you
mentioned tools, I'm okay with like artists, you know, using AI as a tool for their art.
I don't know how to phrase it exactly.
Let me give you an example.
We both write articles.
Obviously, AI can do a great job writing articles as well. So if you just go and say,
hey, I want an article about this X topic,
and it spits out an article and you just do one, two edits and you put it out.
It's not the same with using the same AI as a tool to maybe help you in some specific things.
Like, for example, brainstorm the structure or stuff like that absolutely yeah
yeah but you write the content you decide the content you decide the message you want to put
through and stuff like that it's not the same thing so it's a good comparison to what people
refer to as like lazy slop versus like exactly exactly exactly because i do agree with that
yeah you can you can see it in music as well
you can see it in music pieces as well i think exactly you can see it if you just let yourself
listen and like start applying it into your process of what you're consuming as an as an
art lover uh and for me it's like i've gotten to the point where i can almost instantly hear an ai
voice but that doesn't mean i'm not going to listen to the song and enjoy it.
I just that's one of the things I've learned how to process within how I'm hearing it.
And that's that's another whole world is that that's going to develop further and probably there will be a whole new phase of struggling to understand or if it will even matter at one point.
And as a singer, absolutely. That's where I still have the most development to go through.
That's where it hits the most at home is the idea of at least right now, I feel like I
have a tone and an ability that my human vocal cords can produce that I still quite can't
Right. vocal cords can produce the AI still quite can't do, right?
But I think there will be a point where, just like with a lot of other
forms, it won't matter anymore.
It'll just be about how well the idea is
applied.
Yeah. Okay, I get it.
But yeah,
I mean, that's a whole thing.
As far as filtering and searching
and finding music in Web3, yeah, that that's a whole thing as far as like filtering and searching and finding music in Web3.
Yeah, that's definitely a whole thing.
Anyway, guys, we were just chatting here.
You're going to make us chat together the whole time.
But you are welcome to come up and chat with us.
It is Artsy Friday Community Call.
We'd love to hear what you've been working on.
Yeah, 100%.
Because I know that everyone down in the audience
is working on something.
Like, I see if you just go to their profile, to their feed,
you can see that they have been working on something recently.
So don't be shy.
Come up and tell us what you're working on.
Until then,
I will read off a couple of things real quick
and make sure that anybody,
this is the thing, everybody in the audience
mostly knows this, but I would love for you guys
to continue sharing the word about
the baking sheet. It covers
all the great things happening in the space
in a weekly digest.
Make sure to go to baking sheet.teslos.com.
And that's the commons.org to sign up for that email.
Another reminder,
Tesla's community rewards program,
always going strong.
If you see people in the space that are going above and beyond,
make sure to hashtag Tesla's CRP and make sure to choose which category for
what they're contributing.
And we would love to continue sending out the Tez that helps people every single month kind of keep going and feeling seen.
And then the last one, actually this week, I'm currently working on this month's article of the month.
And next month, there will only be six or seven names left on the list.
So I really appreciate if anybody sees art in space,
it really moves you.
Make sure to hashtag TezArticle
so that they can get a nice spotlight
written up on a couple of their pieces
and get a little bit more eyes on their work.
Definitely appreciate it.
We do have a really cool gym thread up today.
Switched it up a little bit for the community call.
If you check out the
gym thread it's on simha which i absolutely am always like awe inspired by this artist i don't
know if i'm saying the name right but in general simha is an absolutely incredible artist in the
space that i feel like is making waves in the real world. This recent sculpture reveal just absolutely took my breath away.
I feel like it's a great example of how we can just,
the art can just break the barriers.
Like I can't imagine any human being seeing this
and debating it being art, you know?
And this is like something that I feel like when I see
is birthed from the innovation and creativity
and experimentation we are offered in Web3.
I feel like this is the kind of physical sculpture innovation
that we're going to start seeing coming
from all of the experimentation you see on object.
So that's why even though i don't
actually know if this piece is representative of anything on tezos i know simha has an amazing
history on tezos and we shared a couple of his object uh and hiccup pieces as well
so definitely check out this gem thread um i really think this this this sculpture is absolutely going to break the internet.
I'm imagining seeing it on Instagram and all of the quote-unquote regular feeds outside of our circle.
Just wow. We have a pen to the top.
Anyway, welcome. Thank you, Dex, for being here. Appreciate you joining us today.
Kriptonio, what do you have to say about this sculpture?
Oh, it's one of those things that when you see it for the first time,
you're like, wow, you know, like
so much going through your
head, like
it kind of feels
like he's bringing
the digital side,
the digital art
into a physical form in a way or something i don't know
like uh because he adds that led lighting and everything and it looks a little bit um
yeah i think that's the way to put it like it looks digital in in a physical form i don't know
if that makes sense i i agree with you, and I understand what you mean.
And I think another way to put it is that
a lot of people looking in from the outside
might assume it's AI
before they realize it's a real sculpture.
Right? Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah.
My brain even had a quick...
But I know Simha and recognized it quickly.
But there was this brief
is that AI moment for me even.
And you put that sculpture with the man leaning
and the lights going down, right?
Yeah.
The other sculpture was,
I saw it later,
the one that he has with the face connecting
back to the body, you know?
That one's just as breathtaking, maybe not more in some ways.
Actually, I think it generated more thoughts for me, that one, you know,
because like it kind of represents, you know,
like everything that's going on in your mind uh in a really
really slick way i don't know but yeah i think i i got more thoughts uh generated by that one
i would agree with that um for me the other one feels like the downloading of source code
that animates our physical bodies not to get too spiritual but like that for me
that's my interpretation is like we're all this like creational energy source code something
that is like sent out of the drive and want to have physical experience and like the human body is a very unique one-of-a-kind experience
so that's what i see here is like this never-ending stream of a longing to animate and and feel and
experience life it's just so deep uh absolutely love it um i'll share that one to the space
from the from the profile page here and again even if you don't have anything personal that you want to share,
the community call is just about the community having an open forum here with us.
Come chat with us.
We'd love to hear your thoughts on the Simha sculptures
and anything else in the gym thread or anything you've seen this week.
I know that we just had a really, really big moment with John
with the artificial still lifes that OE's just finished,
and I see that's kind of going crazy on secondary now.
We've had a lot going on.
Come talk to us about it.
We'd love to have you up here.
Yeah, and I also want to mention that I have pinned up top
another event that was announced,
the on-chain event,
Pocham City.
It's from zerounbout.art.
And, you know, we had on Tuesday,
Jumps to Blues on the space.
He mentioned that he's, you know,
stepping away in general from all the Web3 stuff and everything. And now, living with all the stuff with RetroAthlista,
it's in good hands and everything.
And they came now and announced a big event for on-chain minting.
So check it out as well.
There was a generative project on FXHash back in the day that had some, it was called
Test Goons or something, and it had some superhero-like looking pixel-looking superheroes, and it
reminded me of that immediately when I saw the announcement, you know?
So it will be interesting to see what people will come up with.
I'm pretty intrigued by that one.
You're talking about the fully on-chain superhero call?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's going to be really cool.
I already know for a fact that Retro, Manny,
and maybe even his daughter are cooking up something.
I loved seeing the paper cut-out characters
that they had sell out so quickly.
That was really cool.
Yeah.
Let's see.
What else do we have going on?
This is the shyest the room has ever been for a community call.
You guys are tripping me out here i wasn't prepared
for just small talk we can just we can just go over you know the feed and maybe if they don't
feel like coming up they can at least help us you know maybe post down in the comments like
stuff you've seen going on that maybe we should mention and pin up here uh but yeah ideally we
would like to come up
and just chat with us as well.
We're just having a chill chat.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we also have, of course,
the Art on Tezos Friday recap from Tezos.
We can pin that to the top.
Absolutely.
I know we had the Art for Humanity fundraiser.
I can't, that is just astonishing.
33K Tez raised.
That is just really, says a lot. Really, really, that is just astonishing. 33k Tez raised. That is just really says a lot.
Really, really glad to see that happening. We have the zero unbound Focom city. We talked about that
Tia community's open call for art on Tezos that closes on September 29th. So just a couple more
days for the Tia community open call. And if you missed that space, you can go to the art on Tezos handle,
and it was recorded.
Definitely tune in.
Make sure to enter your pieces for that.
Let's see.
What else do we have on this?
Wait, Yoshi.
I saw, I noticed there is a mint going on on objects first page.
Did you see that?
What is it about?
Do you know?
Oh, it's gone now.
Earlier when I joined object, there was like a mint going on,
like similarly, like with a myth.
Yeah.
Did you miss the John?
Oh, that was the John one? You didn't get any no no i was way
too busy man that's fine that's fine i'm already getting like 4x offers on some of these and win
them all man but of course it is a total risk and i'm a total degen when it comes to stuff like blind drops i
think i meant it like 17 or 18 of these oh damn
welcome cleophis thank you for joining us today we were just shooting the shots chatting about tezos art hoping some
people will come share what they've been building in the space for our community call and um
definitely have a bunch of cool stuff pinned as far as uh the recent simha sculpture reveals just
mind-blowing uh we're talking about the John drop.
This artificial still life is one of my favorite things I've personally seen from John in a while.
I really, really like most of the variations.
There's a few of them in there that feel particularly special and artsy to me that I will absolutely struggle to get rid of even if people are offering
like four or five six 10x flips they just feel like culturally relevant john pieces
and as somebody that was around Hicketnook watching and before I knew even who he was
some of those first Windows still lifes,
it just feels relevant to me.
Love collecting good John piece when it's available.
He did have another open edition earlier, like one, two weeks ago, I think, right?
There's definitely a pretty steady drop rate for the various different collections and styles of things that he does.
Yeah, I do remember seeing one and getting one open edition earlier, like two weeks ago or so.
There's the window GLB objects.
There's the events collection,
the open window collection,
living,
I love the living rooms.
I think it's the living rooms that,
the living rooms are the more recent,
one of ones.
I need to look into,
I need to look into how to fight for one of those.
Let me check the comments.
I really like the burning microwave in the living room with the fireplace from the living room collection.
collection it's really cool but yeah as we were saying uh back in the gym thread one thing i
It's really cool.
wanted to point out it's a perfect example of one of the things i love about tezos artists is um
there's just the the journey watching the beginning to now um and with simha is just a
beautiful example of that where you see some very unexpected early experimental works compared to what we see from the artist now.
And it was just a joy for me. this the simple hand-drawn frame-by-frame animation uh depicting a person cuddling with
their cat in like this infinite loop it's adorable check it out welcome skulls thank you for being
here scoony thank you for being here and i also just want to say how much joy it gives me my wife
brit down there has been tuning into these spaces every week since the beginning.
But for some reason, just until a couple of weeks ago, was forced into the anonymous listeners category.
No matter how many different ways we tried to get her to show up, it just wasn't working.
And there you are. We see you. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for being here.
Well, if you guys continue to refuse to come up here and talk to us,
I'm just going to keep playing you songs from my new open edition acoustic
sessions or something.
If Kryptonio will let me.
Skulls, I know you've got some cool stuff going on
if you want to come chat with us.
I'm seeing comments down in the space
and I'm trying to view them, but they don't show up.
I don't know why.
Oh, yeah, let me check that.
Yeah, because...
For a while, we weren't getting that comment section, right?
Yeah, but even now that we have it, I can see
my comment about the intro song
name, but then it says
show probable spam.
So it kind of
gets those comments as spam, it seems.
Well, you guys,
stop looking like spammers.
Stop it.
trying here
to see if I can find a way to see them
but yeah
again
just everybody in the room here
mostly I recognize you guys
and you all contribute so much to this space
and I personally
would request that we get some more
Tez article nominations
for artists.
There's so many out there.
I don't want to feel like I'm personally picking and choosing for obvious reasons.
So anybody that you feel like deserves a spotlight,
I'd love to dig in and hand curate some of their work
and put it on next month's article of the month.
Make sure to get those nominations in, guys.
Really appreciate it
do you see them yoshi? I mean, the comments?
I'm looking right now, and no.
No real comments are showing up for me on my end.
That is something that we've actually had technical difficulties with.
I don't think this is from X.
I think this has something to do with the spam,
because it says show probable spam,
and then they just vanish, you know?
So, yeah. It says show probable spam and then they just vanish, you know? So yeah, I think it's because of whoever posted it is taking us spam.
But anyway.
We also had a couple extra spaces this week that kind of served as community calls.
Just a reminder, the art on Tezo's handle is really kicking into full gear and
starting to really
promote all the different communities and curations that are going to be going on during this event in
berlin so i do think that um if you go let the community know retweet that you know make sure
people see that because even uh teztones and uh the tezos community and the artist network and like it's like there's a bunch of different
representatives happening through that initiative right now and those are going to be recorded spaces
looks like we got the hash brown here
hey you know what's interesting is even finally having you up here it took like a solid 20 seconds for you to show up as a speaker on my end oh yeah good to see you what's up hash
how are you guys doing we're good we're good it's been a slow slow community call so far
mostly just chatting with kryptonio i don't know why everybody's being so shy so thank you
one of those weeks yeah I was just lost working.
And then I saw your messages like, hey, no one's coming up.
I'm like, wait, there's a void.
I can fill it with word of Testons.
So, yeah.
Yo, Hash.
Yeah.
Before we get into the Testons updates and everything, I wanted to ask you.
You've built, like, the application, you built the fantasy for
Testons, and as far as I know, you did it with Vibe coding, right? You are not coding
yourself. Is that correct?
Yeah, it's mostly AI. It gets to be kind of blurry where it's like, the more I learn,
the more I'm actually architecting, but, but I'm not writing like line by
line. No, I'm definitely getting that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. Cause I've also tried, you know,
to start a little bit experimenting with wipe coding and say like, Oh,
what can you build and how well it's made and everything.
And there is still like a learning curve there. Right?
Yeah. That's, that's where I say it gets blurry because it's like even learning how to deploy the code you get.
Like, okay, I got this code, but how do I get this even online?
And then setting up like the backend database and then APIs and then, oh, this isn't working or that's working, but this broke.
And then like, why did this break?
And like, because the AI will like work its way into a corner sometimes
so you need to like like okay let's zoom out let's look at this from a bird's eye view and it's like
it's a fun crazy little puzzle i've gone lost in yeah it loses um reference power like like all
of a sudden it stops being able to contextualize yeah exactly there's limits within the conversation
so it's like the art of knowing
okay we've solved this one thing now let's move on to another conversation with fresher context
so i'm not getting lost and like oh let me fix this thing that's not fixed you know like it will
work its way into a corner so it's like learning all these different things and shout out to skills
for for helping like point along the way and saying hey just ask it like hey audit your thing like
a security expert and it's like oh wow that's a great thing to ask you know can we just talk about
can we just talk about how you call them skills yeah you know what i i last yesterday i was
realizing if i'd say like skills maybe people might not know if i'm saying skills or skulls
because in my mind he's got so many skills he He's an army of skills. He is an army of
skills, but he's...
At this point, both
ways are correct, right?
Yeah, that is true.
I just know whatever way I say is wrong.
So then I try to counteract and go the other way,
but then I counteract wrong.
So I need to go with what I actually think.
He's like, oh...
It's counterintuitive at this point for me.
It looks like he's going to go for himself.
Yeah.
You just insult people's names enough
they'll come up.
Not insult, just...
Is that what I need to do?
Call me out so straight like that.
What's up, skills?
What's up?
Are you okay calling you skills instead of skulls hey if you want to you you got the skills man you got the skills man
yeah
how are you doing skulls oh man uh busy keeping myself really busy this month but good living staying alive
thank you um i got uh i dropped some edit art uh support on Reject this week.
That was fun to work on.
So you can check out GenerativeArt from EditArt on the Reject feed and play with it.
Got all the sliders and stuff, and then links you over there with all the slider settings, all preset,
so that you can just mint what you found.
It's pretty cool.
So, yeah, just mint what you found. It's pretty cool. So yeah, just been been working
on stuff. I also have a collab coming out with Para on EditArt sooner than later. Like, well,
maybe like mid next month. Everything on EditArt kind of has to go into their deployment
calendar because they're, they're, those guys over there, man man they're doing so much to help you
like there's something to be said for a self-service kind of marketplace but those guys
do so much to help make sure that your code is going to work and it's going to work in their
system and they give you all the tools to test and they help walk you through everything and the deployment.
It's nice to see kind of a handheld,
more like boutique kind of experience.
It's been nice.
That's edit art you're referring to, correct?
Huh?
You're talking about edit art?
Yeah, edit art.
It does feel like that way.
Even as a collector,
you get these personal thank yous from the developers, even online,
and they acknowledge the collector
as a co-creator. It's got a great
vibe.
Not to disparage bootloader
or anything, but I do like to see
more decentralization and
marketplaces and stuff spring up.
So I'm throwing them a lot of support and love.
And I'm liking what they're doing over there a lot.
Yeah, absolutely.
And this whole one or the other thing is not how capitalism works anyway.
There's got to be some competition.
It drives innovation.
It drives people to push forward.
So I like seeing it.
I feel like it honestly results in more developments on all ends.
100%.
So on that note, I'm actually curious if you have any...
So you got a collab with para going up on edit art
do you also have something that you're working on for bootloader because it's kind of a different
playground all around it is so i i'm taking advantage of the fact that they open sourced
it which huge props to them for starting open source code that's totally awesome um so i grabbed a fork of it and uh i've been playing around with
it i've got a local version called loot boater that might might make the the cut and see the
light of day um the the whole idea really the whole the only thing that i care to change about
bootloader is how much they charge and i feel like I could probably set it up for a lot less money.
And either our FAFO idea is either have a small fee and then have that go into like a DAO fund, kind of like a TAYA idea, or just have like as little or no fee as possible.
Just enough to maybe maintain the indexer and stuff that's needed but um i think
i think object has it set to like something like 20 and that seems very high um so i just feel like
we could probably provide the exact same thing for a lot less fee i'm interested to see it continue
playing out i like the challenge um and i hope that that works
honestly like when it comes down to it i want to see more uh lofi marketplaces as a creator so
absolutely um yeah when it and then on top of that though we also have the um the kind of You have this mixed world because reject is a companion in a sense to object.
So I find it interesting how regardless of what happens as a builder, you're kind of accepting it all and putting tools in place to where whatever ends up happening, something you've built plays a role.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I'm not
kind of trying to step out in competition with anyone. More so maybe I see a niche or a place
to fill. Like, for instance, with object, they're always going to be a marketplace. So they're
always going to have a vested interest in getting that sale. Whereas is is the stated goal is not getting a sale it's it's helping
people connect to art they care about being connected to so it it to me it frees us up to
not be so minded on the conversion funnel and be more mindful of what's the best way to connect
people with that art you know now at the end of
the day are we going to make money probably not but i i'm not really necessarily looking for that
and they have to so i mean we're we have two totally different perspectives on what we're
trying to do so it's really not a a competition and i certainly i mean i i would i would
be stupid not to respect the fact that they are by far the biggest marketplace on Tezos and most of the art on Tezos is happening there.
So, you know, to exclude that or to try to work around that feed and have all those sources all those places marketplaces
everything coming to one place so that maybe um you know more people realize that there are other
options in object and it doesn't have to be such a big monolith in the space but yeah um you know
certainly for what they offer there and and their their UI changes lately. I have nothing but good things to say.
It's, you know, they're a good team over there and I'm,
we're lucky to have them in the, in the space because without a product
like objects being around this whole time and being actively developed,
Tezos art scene probably wouldn't be where it is.
So we probably have a lot to thank them for. So it's all playing into the bigger picture absolutely and i appreciate that that point of
view especially from somebody that's so actively developing in the space because i know that
burnout is real and i know that it can be discouraging but um when it comes down to it
uh you're one of those examples of development as an art and you're not necessarily driven
monetarily and that's one of the things that's special about the space is it brings
that kind of individual out of the woodworks. Very true very true and you know in that vein like
I am constantly fueled by I have a Twitter group chat called Tez Hacks open to anybody if you want in just message me I'll get you in.
Anybody that's doing anything messing around with code or messing around with anything on Tezos.
That's where Hash Brown was talking to me about the the test tone stuff so uh that really has fueled me a lot because
seeing all these other people kind of get in with vibe coding and just like dive into it and
and not be afraid to ask and learn and it's a it's got that like um you know garage code kind
of atmosphere that i that really fuels me and keeps me going. And so in that vein,
I, as part of a TTC project,
I'm working on a boilerplate next JS application that will be open source.
Then anybody can just pick up and use to,
as a starting point for like an application, like a DAP,
an app that connects to Tezos with various you know wallet connections
nft connections smart contracts stuff like that um with examples and all that so um yeah i keep
myself busy by by doing lots of different things too and that keeps me from getting burned out
because like if i like i'm working on porcupine but that's a really heavy application, and I get burned out on it after six, seven hours.
Then I'll just go pick up another project that's fun for three or four hours, and then the next day I'm refreshed and I can go back to it.
I have a question to bring Hashbrown back into the conversation here.
to bring hash brown back into the conversation here as somebody that uh is more on the non-vibe
coding experience side of things that is tuned in how what are your first impressions of this
new test tones app and the experience for this season
skulls oh i thought you invited hash brown back in i'm sorry i'm asking you the question
basically because he just vibe coded that app and it's so impressive i think i think it's super i i
i think it's sad and more people aren't seeing it but i think it's super awesome what he's been
able to do uh i'm impressed it's It's certainly to a lot of extents,
it's more than I've had the balls to get out and do in terms of like these
art packs and stuff.
I love it.
I'm super impressed.
And I love that it was like LLM,
you know,
just bridged the gap between someone that has passion and wants to do something but
doesn't know where to even start and and just like was able to get that person to a finished product
within a reasonable amount of time with a little bit of help from some other people but like it
bridged such a huge gap and it can do that for so many people. And I love seeing that.
I love, you know, I've never I've always seen code is like, you know, more people should know how to do it.
It's such a cool thing. And so this kind of it makes it available to people that don't necessarily have that right frame of mind to like get into it themselves and it opens the door and then i think
you start realizing like oh i i want to understand what that code means and does and you can ask it
questions and then start learning and then pretty soon you're you could put developer on your resume
you know i mean what hash brown has done that's that's a portfolio piece that's it's awesome absolutely you want to respond hash but
just a lot of woos um yeah yeah i appreciate it um it's it's funny it started so small and it was
like i probably shouldn't be doing this but like let's maybe have a simple place to go vote and
let me see if i can have a youtube video play live if it auto detects and then it's like
oh let's make profiles and let's have a community and let's try to
get some project management in there.
And hey, screw it.
Let's make a fantasy.
Let's make a league for our league, which is like the dumbest but funniest thing to
decide to just randomly do.
And shout out skulls.
I did it for for joining the league.
We finally have eight full teams and just getting that interface
going and honestly i think that interface already looks better than the yahoo fantasy draft interface
that i use to to do my like football fantasy because we can make our own things and have fun
and it's just it's really cool and and a huge appreciation for like the welcoming in of someone
who actually knows what they're doing and like i I said, he's helped me with a couple of prompts to just ask that.
You ask the AI, like, hey, look at it from this lens.
And I wouldn't have even known how to ask it, what to do.
And then the second you do, it approaches you like a professional because you knew what to prompt it.
So things like that have been hugely, hugely invaluable, just giving me the confidence.
And even him actually looking over the code not just an ai
and giving like some thumbs up so that approval has been huge because otherwise i feel like i'm
just kind of in the unknown and you know in these like rocky waters that could be dangerous so it's
been a huge bit of help um that that group the the individual dms and everything and it's just
been fun fun to use that as an opportunity to plug the group for sure.
TezHacks has been.
Can I get an invite?
Can I get an invite?
Yes.
Yeah.
Let's get Kryptonio.
That's not the same as true.
But no,
TezHacks is a DM group here on X that has just been filling up with more and
more people interested in having conversations around code and how to use it to continue bettering the community space in the Tezos ecosystem.
And it really comes full circle almost every time in one way or another to the art.
It's really fun to continue seeing.
Thank you so much.
I wanted to touch.
Sorry, Yoshi.
Go ahead.
I wanted to touch on that one. Like, let's even brainstorm right now.
Like, what are some things that maybe people would be able to build as artists to help them in the art journey?
You know, like, you can start from a simple, I don't know, a portfolio showcasing uh websites to an application to
something but like have you ever thought like what kind of tools you could build that would help you
individually as an artist i'm not talking about marketplaces and stuff don't get me started how
much time do we got that's my introduction to the testhacks group like yeah do you guys know you're
totally right uh an artist i i haven't seen him around in a while but his name he went by natas
n-a-t-a-s and he had done pixel demons do you guys remember this yoshu does i bet you anything
it's vaguely familiar pixel demons for sure so this dude back in the day, like built out this whole cool,
he was building this whole cool experience.
This is before vibe coding and any type of LLM assistance.
So everything was finger coded, mad respect.
But he had a whole integrated website where you would buy a pixel demons
and then you could go into the site and you could play a game
and you'd go through a maze and it was kind of like a dnd style kind of like you know select
your you know make a selection adventure game and um then i think if you made it to the end there
was like there was some coin rewards he had his own coin and you could like stake the
demons and get other coins and you like there was a whole kind of experience that was built out
around these pixel demons that kind of made it a little more of like a holistic project and not
like maybe like and that's not for everybody I mean some people all you want to do is like
a flat art piece and that's all you need that's your canvas and that's fine um but, some people, all you want to do is like a flat art piece and that's all you need. That's your canvas and that's fine.
But for some people that kind of think more on the experiential level, you know, you can really start thinking about how you can make an NFT a door into, I mean, look at what Hashbrown's done.
You know, he's got this whole fantasy draft league now built around these NFT player cards.
So it opens it up to like your imagination and also maybe copying some things that have been done traditionally in other venues that haven't been very easily attained on Tezos.
Tezos. And with using things like MCP tools, you can, and anybody that's using LLMs today,
learn how to integrate MCP tools, their model context protocol. And the first one you need
to start with is context seven. That will let your LLM pull in up-to-date documentation on nearly
anything, and then give, so that now it's no longer limited to
like whatever it was trained on it can pull the exact current docs and then follow them i have had
such a much better experience using that so anyway yeah please dm me what you just said
i'll i'll throw it i'll throw it in the tez hacks group yeah that that's good thank you
yeah because absolutely i want to kind of upgrade uh my training on a few of the lms with that and i'll tell you i've been testing that on
this boilerplate and i was like hey go go get the latest taquito and beacon uh uh documentation now
anybody that's thrown their their hand in um tezos wallet integration knows that historically, Taquito and Beacon can be a pain
in the ass to get right.
And they have to have like matching version numbers.
And there's a lot of breaking changes
between some of those versions.
So if they're not aligned, then it's a pain in the ass.
It got it right the very first time I asked it to integrate it
after telling it to use context seven to use the docs.
So it immediately gave me a working wallet integration,
which is the first time an LLM has been able to do that for me.
So really with that setup, it's like you can ask for anything
and I think you can get there. But ideally, Scouts, I think you should still have a second human set of eyes.
Take a look at it when it comes to wallet integrations and stuff, right?
Like, I don't know.
100%.
I wouldn't feel confident, you know?
A thousand percent when it comes to wallet integrations, especially if you're doing any type of transaction.
If you're using a wallet like as a login and maybe checking what NFTs they have, that's fairly low security.
If you're using it as a means of any type of transactions later or there's any type of sensitive information in the account
and it's used for account access.
Yeah, you definitely want to, you know,
make sure that you have audited that.
And I, you know, I'm certainly available to give it a look-see,
but I'm not the stated expert on Tezos security.
But, you know, there's help out there.
And, but ultimately, I mean, build it on ghost net, put it out there and ask people to help try to break it. Don't be afraid to try to build something just because you're afraid of the security implications, like build it on ghost net and put it out there and say, is this
insecure? Somebody help. And, you know, we'll jump in, we'll help.
Yeah, that's, that's a great input.
That's absolutely important. And it's one of those things that for vibe coding is one of those
final stages that could be a standstill is that when you go past the read only phase of wallet integration, there's a lot more potential for people to notice and want to make sure it's audited and stuff like that.
hand up hash hand up hash that's what they call me um yeah i agreed with all that and just to
Hand up hash?
Hand up hash, that's what they call me.
rewind because i think it got almost like scary there of vibe coding and blockchain what i'd
recommend is you can like code really simple arts like any if you have something in canva that you
can't do because it's too expensive or there's something over there you can vibe code things
that like upscale images that i have one that generates the thumbnails for every match
where it reads our database it knows the team names it knows their logos and i click generate
image and it makes a new thumbnail for our matches and it just saves me a ton of time like
as artists you can just any tool you have that's like gate kept by money or a monthly subscription
there's a really good chance you can make at least a basic feature version of some of that for free so there's like just try
playing with fun goofy stuff like audio try getting a plugin that makes a reverb or it generates a
synth sound like there's so many cool a sampler you know i was actually playing with that and some
image visual generation stuff it's surprisingly not that hard to get like generative visual stuff going where you can work your own art in like there's so many cool i wish
i had more time to buy more stuff because there's so many cool tools you can do and then yeah you
can definitely go down the line of making an app to then tie that in or blockchain integration like
the fantasy league and you know there's so many fun things that way but there's a lot of really
cool just like one-off tools you can make that can be like very very useful even if it's
just local and it's not for other people they can just play around with um but yeah um so it's a
great that was a great question kryptonio and i just want to reiterate to everybody in the room
that's been listening what we're emphasizing is that vibe coding absolutely has opportunities to unlock
for artists and making tools for their benefit. Like, you know, it's kind of that mother of
necessity style of invention. What is something that would make your life as an artist easier
and then take that step further and realize that you could probably vibe code it into existence with today's technology
yeah but well while we're at it uh shouldn't we mention like a few free tools that maybe you guys
have used and tried and uh you know thought that they were good enough to start uh lm studio is
what i've recently discovered and started diving into, and it has allowed me to start harnessing the power of my actual computer versus relying on servers, and that's kind of cool.
So that's my initial answer, but I'm sure they have better answers.
And it's you might suggest for people to start up maybe now we have
the people in the audience and same with me they never touched such a tool before right so like
what would be an easy way to get into wipe coding in your opinion?
Well I'll throw out some tools.
My issue is I'm not coming from that place, so I'm not sure what's easiest to start with.
But I'll tell you some tools that I go back to often and kind of the use case that I use them.
So there's v0.dev.
That's just the letter V and the number 0.dev.
That's a really great tool put out by Vercel.
They do hosting services and provide lots of, like, cloud backend stuff.
And that tool can get you a front end worked out in just a few prompts.
And it will get you a very nice functional front end
for your application um it's not so great at back end but usually i'll start there to kind
of get the ui where i want it and then i'll move that to a github repo and then um i like to use
github copilot which is a paid product.
I use that for a lot of things just because of all the integration points, but that's a little heavier.
I don't think that's really pertinent to starting.
Aistudio.google.com is a good place to mess around. I find that Google's Gemini is a quite capable model at both coding apps and,
you know, specialized chat experiences that you might want. And it's kind of fairly easy one-stop
shop to get something up without having to understand the technical details behind it.
Like you can kind of get something deployed without really having to know too much.
Those two tools, I think, can get you from a simple tool and up to kind of a medium range tool.
And then anything more than that, you probably want to start looking at something that integrates into what's called an IDE or an integrated development environment. Basically,
a real fancy text editor that you have on your computer that developers use to keep all the
files for a project together and kind of jump between them. And all of the good ones like VS Code, Cursor,
there's a WindSurf,
there's some that are specifically for AI and LLM.
There's some that have a strong integration for it,
like VS Code.
VS Code is put out by Microsoft.
It's pretty well standard IDE for web development,
and it has great integration points.
But also things like Cursor are up and coming
and very well used and supported.
So that's kind of from start to more advanced.
Yeah, I have to say I tried Cursor,
and while it did a good job on generating, you know,
something initial with the preview and everything,
after like two or three prompts, it started talking about stuff
that I had no clue about, telling me, you know,
you just have to do this or that now.
And I was like, what is this?
You like, you know?
So, yeah, but this v0 that you mentioned looks pretty promising
for the fronted and stuff.
And I assume that most people will start with something simple, right?
And should, I think, start with something simple.
Like, as I said, maybe just a blog, a nice-looking blog
to showcase their art, you know, or something like that.
But, yeah, thank you for mentioning.
That's currently where I'm at is absolutely,
that's what I want to do next is VibeCode,
some sort of a home landing site for my personal art projects.
And I'm excited to see how maybe Hashbrown's workflow
might help with that because it's so impressive.
Well, we got to.
We do have some more people up on the stage.
Retro, hello.
I want to say hello to the room real quick, real quick, though.
It's been a while since I've done a reset.
So thank you so much, everyone, for being here.
This is our monthly community call we do on the last Friday of every month
with Tezos Commons.
Thank you for being here for another Artsy Friday community call, guys.
Really appreciate everyone for being here.
It was one of those really kind of rough starts.
We were having a lot of shyness, but the people up on the stage,
you guys are always amazing.
It's been wonderful conversations.
I hope you have enjoyed.
And now I would love to chat with Retro.
Congratulations on the sellout, on the cutout characters that your daughter did.
That was an amazing thing to watch.
How have you been?
Hey, Yoshi.
Hello, everyone.
Yeah, that was awesome.
Thank you for that.
I've been well.
A lot of things going on.
So just trying to keep up with everything.
But yeah, I've been well.
Thank you very much.
We did pin the event that you have coming up, retro with 0.1 bound art.
But yeah, I want you to talk about it later on as well.
But real quick, can I just go back and see
if Hash has anything to add regarding the tools?
I have absolutely nothing to add.
Skulls said that perfectly.
I will say I originally was just using free tools.
I ended up, the first time I started the app,
I paid for a Claude. I think it was like 20 bucks a month.
Then when I started using the app or doing the app again this season, I hadn't paid for that for a while.
So I used the Google AI studio that Skulls mentioned, and that was getting me really far.
But our app just has so many different pages that the context to like, hey, this and this and this was hard.
pages that the context to like hey this and this and this was hard so i ended up using um on advice
of skulls and other people in the test hacks cursor because then that's on my computer and
it can look at the whole project folder and just have the context for what we're doing which was
really helpful because otherwise it would start making components that didn't know what other
things were doing so if you want to do something more advanced, you know, that makes sense for the local knowledge.
But I also saw that VO or V0, the Vercel thing, and I think that's like really good for the little one-off apps.
So just completely agreeing with what he said in a more roundabout way.
Beautiful. Real quick, I just want to say that we typically don't go past 3.
Beautiful. Real quick, I just want to say that we typically don't go past three.
And I did notice that Object just started a space with Wise, who I feel bad that we weren't able to say hello to.
Wise came into the room and was tuned in with us for a minute there.
But maybe it was to let us know about this space that was coming up.
Anyway, we'll try to wrap it up here soon, but I also have a few people in the audience that I absolutely wanted to be able to at least acknowledge
and make sure to talk to Retro
if you wanted to talk more about Zero Unbound.
We'll give it a little bit more time.
I just wanted to acknowledge that that's happening.
Yeah, that's cool.
I just wanted to, I see you've already posted it up above anyway,
but I just wanted to let everyone know just a little bit of details
in case they were not clear on those things.
That's cool.
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, so there is a new event coming up for Xero Contract.
And just to clarify, there's a bit of a difference between Xero Unbound
and Xero Contract. So just for clarify this, there's a bit of a difference between zero unbound and zero contracts.
So just for clarity, so that everyone knows zero contract is the contract
that was created by guest M zero that allows all of this on chain
minting to happen in the first place.
Zero unbound and, uh, another platform zero terminal, they are both kind of
like apps and gateways to make it easy to be able to use that
contract and mint on chain very, very easily. Um, because in the beginning you couldn't do that.
You had to go through the backend using like better called dev. Um, and it was very complicated.
So both zero unbound and zero terminal make that just a very easy process. now onto the event there's a there's an event called uh excuse
my language foc city uh foc which stands for fully unchained um the event is inspired by
gotham city and so it's got kind of a superhero super villain theme to it so create anything that
is themed around superheroes and supervillains whether
it's your own characters or you're inspired by others um create some kind of art and mint it
on chain using zero contract that's the whole point of this event and it's not like a normal
event it's going to be all the artwork is going to be minted as part of a collaborative collection.
If you have already minted on Xero Contract before, then YesStem is going to add your name to the collaborative drop.
So you will be included in that group collection.
So all you need to do is make sure you mint to that collection.
mint to that collection um if you've never minted on zero contract before then please reach out to
yesstem and he will get you added to that group contract so that you can mint to it so it's it's
not just like the you know an event where you just use a hashtag it's actually a collective drop and
this is the third collaborative drop of zero contractors which is kind of what we've been calling ourselves,
a bunch of zero contractors. So this is the third drop for us as a kind of a group.
So yeah, if you want to join in, if you want to create a piece of art fully unchained,
then that's kind of the process. the kind of launch for it is going
to be on the 30th of september which is next tuesday i believe um so yeah and if you want to
join our dm group let me know i can get you in there and you can ask as many questions as you
want and if you if you're new to zero, you might need your hand holding a little bit
because it's a little bit of a different process.
It costs a little bit more and there's,
there's some things that you might need to consider.
So yeah, just reach out and we'd love to get you in
as part of the group.
Thank you for sharing.
Hopefully that was all clear and concise
as much as possible.
No, absolutely.
And of course, anybody that has more questions,
you can go to the Zero Contract group or Discord
and appreciate the clarification.
I usually kind of just revert to the platform,
the place people can use the thing.
But it is important people understand that zero contract as a project
is the actual smart contract underlying.
And the terminal and zero unbound are like the marketplaces,
the user interfaces.
Retro, I have one question just to clarify.
I noticed that all your like, you all your banners about the event,
they are all in the pixel style.
The artworks that are going to be submitted,
they don't have to be pixel style, right?
They just have to be around the superhero, super villain thing?
Absolutely.
There's no kind of limits on what you can do that's just a poster
that yes them created for it which is cool um i have to say yeah yeah but it's not it's no it's
not limited to pixel art at all it's limited by whatever you want to create and obviously by the
file size and how much you want to spend on minting because as the file size gets larger
then the the minting cost gets larger um just as a as a rule it's something like 20 kilobytes
costs around six tes um you don't have to create the collection so because normally there's a cost
to creating a collection because the collection will be created for you. So just bear in mind, the minting costs will be possibly a minimum of around six tears.
And then you can just use that to figure out your pricing and your additions, which
says there's no limit on what you want to do.
It's just a thematic drop collection celebrating zero contract.
So, yeah, and no limit on the style of artwork at all
oh and also just just to last last point sorry just to bear in mind that um if you list on um
if you list on zero unbound then there's zero percent um marketplace fees as well if the sale takes place on zero
unbound and you list on zero unbound um and the zero unbound uh x account is actually listening
on this as well so if you could go and follow that that would um that would be great as well
absolutely it's the z you here in the audience it's a newer account make sure to give it a
follow so more people know that it's there and um appreciate you for sure thank you for telling us
more about the uh open call um i would love to keep this going but honestly my conscience is
just feeling bad about competing spaces so um I would love to wrap it up here
and give you all an amazing track to finish it out with.
And then maybe you can go ask WISE some questions
or go about your Fridays and go make some artsy things.
So I appreciate everybody so much for being here
for another Tezos Commons community call.
Anybody up on the stage have any final words for us?
I'd say let's all go migrate towards the object space now.
That sounds great.
Let's go ahead and close it out then with our finishing track here today.
This is The Peak by Ronny Tez, an older piece that we found hiding.
Really, really nice. Hope you enjoy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you again, guys, for joining us for another Artsy Friday community call.
And hopefully we'll see you over in another space this weekend.
Maybe this object space, but in general, have a lovely weekend.
As always, it's been a pleasure.
We'll see you next time. Thank you.
