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Astar x Dew Gaming MegaSpace 👾 🎮 👾
Recorded: Nov. 3, 2023 Duration: 1:03:09Space Recording
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I hope I pronounced your name right.
Yeah, I think we've got almost everyone up here.
One sec.
Do you want to play a little song before we start waiting for a couple more people to join?
Oh, that's a good idea.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Do you have a song in mind?
I really love Arctic Monkey.
I'm not sure.
I love band.
So if you can play anything a little bit funky, that would be good for Friday, I think.
I'll play a little bit movie.
Okay.
Okay.
I'll play a little bit of people.
And I'll play a little pitch.
They'll play a little bit.
Okay.
I'll play a little part of the parce.
that pops up. We'll do this on Apple Music.
We'll be right back.
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I think we're missing a couple people, but that's all right. We can dive into the space.
Yeah, let's kick it off, let's kick it off.
Yeah, so welcome, and also maybe, if you can mute, if you can mute, I'm getting it.
Okay, so welcome, everybody, so welcome, everybody, to the space. We have Dio on and many other amazing speakers, and we will discuss all things Web3 Gaming, Protagon, and crypto.
So, and yeah, I think maybe, and I think maybe, and I think maybe, and I think maybe we'll just start off with a round of introduction.
I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm Naomi. I'm just here to facilitate the space and make sure that everybody gets their words in. I work inside of the marketing team of Aster. And yeah, excited to be here. And thanks for everybody tuning in on this Friday. And yeah, maybe we can start with Jared, who's hiding behind the Aster account, and then we can make the round.
Hey, can you hear me now?
Loud and clear.
Okay, sorry about that. When I started playing the music, I guess it didn't work.
Yeah, so, yeah, I was just, I think, what, this week, we ended up introducing a new partnership with Dio to build out some, like, an NFT economy, but also interested in gaming on Aster's EKVM.
Right now, we're in Testnet, so we're doing some fun things, especially if you signed up for, like, early Testnet access.
There's a lot of cool things that you can do.
But we got to talking and saying, hey, let's have, like, just a fun Friday panel to talk about gaming.
So, it's supposed to be more of kind of like an organic thing.
We have some questions that we can talk about.
But, like Naomi said, let's go around and do some introductions.
But it'd be nice just to talk about gaming in general, what makes a fun game, maybe some of the challenges and misconceptions that we face in Web3 Gaming.
And especially with all the talk about the bull run, like, what's really going to get normies interested in crypto?
That would be really cool to talk about.
But, yeah, excited to be here. It would be great.
I think when we're talking, just maybe some general rules is if you want to hop in and keep talking about a topic, just raise your hand.
That would be great. And then we can keep talking about that.
We don't have to keep it super panel structured.
And just everyone in the audience, it'd be great if you could like, repost it, and even just spam a few emojis, let the speakers know that you're there.
And it also helps the algorithm so more people see it.
But, yeah, Morph, are you there?
Hey, yeah, sure. I'm here.
Hi, everyone.
So, as a lot of people know, I'm Morph.
I'm from BD team on Do, and we're the aggregator on Polygon, also the first one that exists on Polygon.
We're, I guess, a pro marketplace.
We're a lot to help traders make their trading more convenient.
We have a lot of tools that you can explore.
All you got to do is go to do.tg and find your options on there when you start trading NFT.
And recently, we also really honored to be partnered with Asta as well to expand, especially in the Japanese market,
to introduce to new users and give out help, creating a lot of opportunity for people who are thriving into game, especially game five space and NFT space in general.
So, yeah, I can't wait to dive into this topic together because I'm also one of the gamers as well.
So, yeah, thank you so much.
Yeah, Morph, I didn't realize you were a huge gamer.
What's your what's like your favorite game that you're playing right now?
Actually, this is a really good question.
I was working in Dota 2 and CSGO back in 2018.
Throughout 2019, I stopped at 2020 and get into crypto straight away.
I was working as a gaming caster.
I cast one domestic game in the country on Dota 2.
I was a, like, I would say pro gamer.
I'm not, but I really loved Dota 2.
So I started there, just like everyone else, CSGO and stuff.
And so, yeah, it was a really good journey for me with gaming.
Awesome.
I guess speaking about the games, let's see who's next.
Yellow Panther.
Be great if you could do a little introduction.
I think you're, if you've never met before, this is your first time on the space.
So it'd be great to do an intro of what you're doing.
I think you're a content creator.
You're very familiar with the Web3 Gaming space.
Yeah, hello.
Yeah, I can hear it.
Yo, Yellow Panther here.
Web3 Gaming content creator.
Thank you, Morph, for inviting me to this panel.
I mean, this AMA.
I just wanted to say that.
And also, I've been in the space for two and a half years making content.
I started as an AXE pro.
And then, you know, I transitioned to a full-time content creator.
And the rest is history.
I've been making so much content, covering many games, different blockchains.
So, yeah, that's me.
Thanks.
And I guess just a little question.
I do know recently, like, I see the tabs in the audience.
And that's full of a bunch of community content creators.
Yellow Panther, do you have, like, any, like, tips or secrets that you have, like, in general?
Like, some advice for content creators looking to get into Web3 and gaming?
Because it seems like you've built a whole career out of it.
Yeah, I mean, first, you have to do what you love.
And, you know, be consistent.
You know, don't say, I'm going to show up.
But you don't show up every day.
I show up every single day.
Like, no matter rain or shine, sick or not sick, I'm here always.
Yeah, thanks.
That's good.
Yeah, you do hit a good part there.
You got to kind of have, like, passion for it.
I mean, that's something we always say at a start.
Like, having passion for what you're doing makes it easier to put in the extra hours and keep doing it.
So, yeah, that's great.
Battlefly.
I think you're the only game on the panel.
Quick intro.
Hello, hello.
This is Avenger from Battlefly.
We've got Gyro here as well.
Gyro Blade.
So, yeah, I can only speak for myself, I guess, rather than everyone who plays Battlefly.
But I got into crypto late 2017, 2018, sort of around the bear time.
I was really interested in kind of the people who stuck around.
And that's probably been a theme of this sort of bear market as well.
I think the people who stick around and keep building are always probably the most interesting people to get to know.
And they're good people to know when the good times come back.
Like, I personally, like, I love two sorts of games.
I grew up sort of loving strategy games like Civ and Skylines and Axis and Allies and those sort of things.
And I also just love Firing Up.
Still, after all this time, GTA V.
I'm not doing it for the plot anymore.
I'm just doing it to drive around and, I guess, shoot at people and have them shoot back at me.
So, that's what I'm into.
GTA V, that's kind of a fun one.
Like, it's one that even my wife, she loved to play, right?
Because you just go in there and drive around.
And like you said, hit people, right?
You don't have to be a great shooter.
You can just go on and just have fun.
Yeah, and I still love the, like, I still love, like, breaking into the army bases and getting a fighter jet and just terrorizing, you know, the world for a little bit.
Like, it's kind of, it's really basic, but it's fun.
Yeah, that's like a real escape from reality.
All right, thanks.
Was it footprint analytics?
Alex, going to do a quick intro?
Or, sorry, ladder protocol.
I think Vitalis on the stage here.
Yeah, yeah, I'm here, I'm here.
Oh, sorry, yeah, thanks.
Yeah.
I was thinking about footprint and didn't see Alex over there.
And I was like, wow, didn't know they are also invited.
All right, so, yeah, it's Vitalis.
I'm building a ladder protocol.
Ladder is NFT AMM with profound focus on games.
So, I think that you can envision, like, Uniswap for NFTs for games.
The concept is simple.
Many games are using NFTs.
And in games, NFTs are not really the same as for art and profile pictures.
Most of them are technically non-fungible, but at the same time, they are closer to fungible tokens.
So, some sink in the middle.
So, if you are speaking about boxes, some potions, upgrades, and stuff like that, it is like utility items.
And the way they are traded right now in marketplaces is very inefficient.
And AMM has lots of advantages over marketplace, like instant liquidity, much lower commissions, speed, and easiness of being integrated inside games.
So, no need to open a new window or third-party marketplace.
And I think that for games, it's a very good fit.
So, yeah, that's why we are building it for games specifically.
And I believe right now, share of NFT trading volume, of gaming NFT trading volume, is very low.
It's like 5% out of all NFTs.
But I believe that in a couple of years from now, gaming NFT, and GameFi industry, and gaming NFT, therefore, will be much, much bigger.
Expecting this share to grow to, like, 50%.
Yeah.
And as for me personally, I joined Crypto in 2017.
Previously have entrepreneurial background, mostly e-commerce.
Unfortunately, in 2017, it was, like, not very serious, so I made some shackles, but it was, like, part-time, probably.
And joined full-time in 2018 and made most of my career at Cointelegraph.
And I ended Cointelegraph as a COO.
And, yeah, now building ladder and leading Europe at buy trade.
And also wanted to add for previous speaker.
I love smashing people in Grand Theft Auto.
And, yeah, that's a great game.
And one of your games that I'm recurring getting back to it from time to time.
Is that still, would you call that your favorite game of all time?
That's a hard one.
That's a hard question.
Yeah, that's a very hard question.
I mean, I have a lot of games from my memories.
Like, I played much more when I was a child.
And now I'm not playing a lot.
However, probably GTA is one of few games that I can still open, like, one per month and still enjoy.
So, probably today, very likely, I would answer yes.
Awesome.
And I'm hoping I'm going to say your name right.
Gyro?
Euro?
I think you're up here for, let's see, Battlefly.
I am, and you got it right with Gyro.
Oh, nice.
Yes, two people guessed it, and they got it right.
That's fair.
So, good job for both of you.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
I'm Gyro Blade.
I am the product lead over at Battlefly.
We are building a couple different games right now.
Our main one that we have live is an auto-battler that kind of combines elements of deck-building games
with a game that plays passively throughout the day.
And we are also building a sort of draft format for that game where you, you know, build this sort of mecha robot as you go
and face off against people in an eight-man tournament, kind of like an eight-man draft if you've ever played one in Magic the Gathering.
So, that's the main thing that we're doing right now.
I'm in the New York City game industry.
I've been making games professionally for about 15 years now, playing them much longer than that.
And, yeah, glad to be here.
Thanks for having me.
I think that's just one question from you.
Since it seems to be a theme right now, what's kind of your favorite game playing right now?
You can't use Battlefly.
That would be fair.
That would not be.
Can I use a non-video game?
My favorite game to play, I've been playing for about 20-ish years now, is actually volleyball.
So, I'm a big team sports player.
So, that is what I play.
I coached youth volleyball for about 13 years.
So, that is the game I have the most hours on.
Followed probably pretty closely by Hearthstone, actually.
I have about 12,000 or so hours last time I counted in Hearthstone.
So, those would be the two.
Awesome.
I got really into volleyball.
I think it was probably my fourth year of university.
There's a group of volleyball players that got...
That's a really tough sport, right?
And it's hard on the arms, right?
Bumping the ball.
It does beat you up a bit.
And, you know, if you liked it, though, it's never too late to get back into it.
There's a bunch of, you know, adult leagues around the world.
So, if you liked it, I'll bully you back into playing.
So, whenever we meet, we'll have, like, a volleyball tourney.
I know every year at A Star, we have a football tourney.
Soccer, but a football tourney.
And I suck at that.
But volleyball, I might stand a chance, right?
There you go.
Yeah.
Give yourself a better advantage.
Do volleyball instead.
Awesome.
Yeah, so maybe we'll move on to getting into the nitty-gritty of Web3 and gaming.
And maybe the most interesting part, I guess, is always a lot of the times when people pitch
NFTs and Web3 to gamers, the reactions seem to be not so positive, at least if you believe
the mass media.
So, maybe you can share a little on how you got exposed to Web3 in the first place and
what made you stick around.
And you can just go ahead if you want to go first and jump in.
I think I kind of want to go first, because this is really a bit personal for me.
I started, like, within, like, the circle of my cousins.
It's a little bit funny, but we started off, like, playing games really early.
Habu Hotel, you name it, all those games.
It's funny.
Farm game or anything.
And then I got into World of Warcraft and then Dota 2 in 2014, and I started to take
the game a little bit serious.
And then after that, moving forward, I started using Discord Daily.
That was the only app that I spent most of my time in for gaming in general and talking
to friends.
And I got introduced worldwide, literally.
I have a lot of friends around the globe that's also helped me with my English as well, because
English is my third language, and I could barely speak English, like, even seven, eight years
ago.
I just got better from that.
And eventually, I started doing Ponzi stock, and it wasn't really profitable.
And then so I moved, I got introduced through Discord as well, thanks to Discord, by the
way.
Yeah, and then I got introduced to crypto, and then I started noticing that 95% of the
VC or investor in crypto in general are looking to expand their investment into GameFi.
And I started to learn about GameFi and tokenomics, and then, yeah, got myself involved, and so
on, and then, yeah, to Polygon.
That's, I explored a lot of options with a blockchain, started off on eSolana, and then
I fell in love on Polygon, fell in love with my new team.
And so, yeah, I'm here today for that.
Thank you very much, and great to hear some people have a wholesome journey.
Yeah, anybody else, maybe Yellow, you could share, because you started pretty professionally
as well, in Web3.
Oh, shit, we're doing, like, 3 now?
Yes, I feel like, trip down memory lane.
I feel like we should just go to the questions for me, personally.
How did you start in Web3, Yellow?
How did you get involved on here?
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I'll share.
So, I was, like, a fresh grad, like, I had no job, I graduated into COVID, so, like, I
had, like, no money, right?
I was broke, so I had to sell some of my Pokemon cards, because my friend told me, hey, there's
this game you can play, and you can make money, and that was, you know, I don't know if it
was a trap, or not, but here I am, I'm stuck now.
Yeah, you might never find out the answer if it was a trap.
As they say, the best prison is the one you don't know you're in, but maybe that's too
philosophical for a gaming space.
So, but yeah, maybe somebody from Battlefly, if you want to share what kind of triggered
your journey into the Web3 space.
Yeah, I'll jump in.
So, I've actually been in Web3 for a really long time, since about 2014.
I got started back when Dogecoin first launched.
I've always been a huge fan of community-based things.
I still am.
It's the way I like to build games.
And so, at that time, Dogecoin was, you know, there was no speculation.
It wasn't worth any money.
It was 100% the, you know, meme coin for tipping your friends, you know, almost a parody of
crypto.
And, you know, it got a little bit of traction.
I heard about it.
So, I dove into it on Reddit and got really into the community there.
I actually wrote for the Dogecoin magazine, very much WoW, as their games reviewer.
So, I would review video games, you know, that were Dogecoin themes.
So, like, you know, it's usually re-skins of popular games with just, you know, a Doge
page on them.
And I actually got paid in crypto to do that pretty early on.
So, I was getting paid, at the time, you know, what was 50, 100 bucks an article.
At the peak of Dogecoin, I was getting paid what would have been the equivalent of thousands
of dollars an article, you know, if I hadn't been spending all that Dogecoin on pens and
tipping it to people for funny comments.
So, I've been in this space a really long time.
And I've been watching close, they've been in games, like I mentioned, for about 12 years
or so now, professionally.
And I've always watched the two very closely.
And within the last few years, I feel like it's really reached the point where games and
Web3 have both kind of converged on maturity, where, you know, games and their monetization,
their communities are more open to these sort of things with all the different, you know,
types of games that are being created and all the different ways that you can integrate
new technology into them.
And crypto is finally mature enough where we have the tools and the infrastructure and
the sort of community to support actually playing games.
So, I've been with both of those for a really long time.
And I'm grateful to be at sort of this convergence where they're both kind of ready for the stage
together.
Yeah, Dogecoin was an interesting example.
It was pretty wholesome to begin with.
I think now they're kind of going back to that, with having their Doge chain and whatnot.
But yeah, maybe Vitalis, you also, you could share how you got into the space.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
My main initial interest was out of finance space.
So, I think that my initial, like, ideas was that current financial system is not sustainable
and it won't last for a very long time.
And then I think that my first acknowledgement started with actually Ethereum, not Bitcoin,
as for many users, because Ethereum was enabling smart contracts.
And I saw it very interesting from a financial field and perspective.
And absolutely, accidentally, probably in, like, a year or a bit less after I got into crypto,
I got an offer to join Contelegraph as a global development manager.
So, they just found my CV online because I was doing another international project.
And, yeah, I spent there a couple of years and grew my way from mid-term manager to operations director.
And got stuck in this industry and really love everything that is happening, especially during bear markets.
So, congrats to everybody who survived or who's surviving.
But still, if you are here, I think that, like, you are the real one.
And we're all going to make it, guys.
We're all going to make it, for sure.
You will, you will most.
I'm great, as long as the market is moving.
I'm passing the mic to Naomi.
Yeah, I was just going to say you said an interesting thing that you are now stuck here.
And I remember this tweet where somebody was like,
Okay, now tell us why you're really still here.
And then some people were like,
Yeah, I can't go anywhere else now.
Because I have all this niche knowledge that's not really useful anywhere else.
I think it's something that sometimes happens as well.
It happens, but it's not really the case today in 2023.
I think it used to be the case for people in, like, 2018 and 2019, when crypto was much, much
niche than it is right now.
Yeah, for sure.
And also, I guess it depends.
If you know a lot about the Lightning Network, you might not be very useful in an AWS.
But moving on, maybe what do you think are the biggest misconceptions people still have about crypto gaming?
Because you're all kind of involved in that sector.
And obviously, people don't necessarily react positively when they hear about it.
And yeah, some of the comments, I think, when Reddit started their digital avatar initiatives, weren't necessarily nice.
So maybe do you have any thoughts on those reactions that sometimes happen from these communities?
Yes, Jairo, go ahead.
I think the biggest misconceptions are on the extremes on both ends.
I think that you have a lot of people that aren't in the Web3 space that any sort of monetization of fun, any elements of tradable assets, NFTs, crypto, decentralized items, they have a very visceral reaction to that this is somehow instantly predatory, and that it's going to take over all these spaces and consume everything and be so bad and so evil in this kind of nebulous, you know, big, bad, evil guy sort of way.
And conversely, you have a lot of people, I think, that are so excited about Web3 content that they're like, Web3 is the future, every game is going to be on the blockchain, every tradable item is going to be an NFT, why would I have items in Counter-Strike when they could be on an Ethereum blockchain?
And I think that, you know, both of those extremes are just, you know, not realistic to how diverse games end up being.
And, you know, NFTs and crypto and all these other ways will just be another way of storing data, another tool that we use, another way of monetizing, just like anything from cloud storage to loot boxes to battle passes have been.
I think there's a lot of potential, just like there is in all those technologies I mentioned.
But, yeah, I think the biggest misconceptions are on those extreme ends, where it's either all or nothing.
Either we can't have NFTs because they're so bad, or we have to have NFTs because they're the savior from everything.
So I think there's a much more moderate stance.
That's probably where we'll end up.
Yeah, Jared.
Yeah, just to kind of build off that, it's kind of funny you said that, not just with NFTs, but nowadays, at least locally, you're starting to see Bitcoin in the news quite a bit.
So, like I had someone over to do work on the house, right?
And he knows that I'm in the crypto industry.
And he said, how's it going?
And that, I'm like, oh, it's great, right?
Same thing, up, down, who knows, right?
Bearable.
And his comment for Bitcoin, because he heard it on the radio that morning, was, I don't think it'll ever take over, so I don't believe in it.
And just in my head, like, that's almost what you're saying with NFTs, that you're kind of missing the whole concept of it, right?
It's to expand and build something new that we don't quite know, but you can already see the beginning of that.
I think it's just exposure, right?
They've never experienced it.
They just see a moonshot, right?
So they either believe in the moonshot or not.
Yeah, Valfly, I see your hand's up.
Yeah, in many respects, it makes me think of sort of the photography revolution.
And in the late 90s, as digital cameras started to become more mainstream, they were really controversial because, you know, competitions were banning photos and the traditionalists were saying, we will never use these.
And it sort of always follows this path of purity, of innovation, and then sort of just imagination.
And the people who said, you know, shooting on film will only ever be the gold standard started to discover that you could actually, you know, shoot things on digital cameras that were not possible on those older cameras.
And on top of that, you know, now we're seeing iPhone photos, like things that people are shooting on their phones, these moments, running the same sort of thing.
So I think there'll always be a place for traditional gaming.
I think there'll always be people drawn into, well, what is possible with this technology and how far can we push it?
And I think when those things come together, it's really special.
And I completely agree with Jairo's point around not building the tech in just for the sake of it.
You've got to find the art in there that underpins it all.
I think we could say a lot now that SBF found guilty a hundred year in prison.
Hopefully.
That's like the only thing you don't want to cross on crypto in general.
And so, yeah, for me, the biggest misconception about crypto is that everything's a scam.
Well, truly, a lot of things are scam.
But once you've found your true purposes on Bing, especially in Web3 in general, and like finding the use case of blockchain, crypto, and even NFTs.
And I just want to cover something a little bit that recent happening in my country, especially in a monetary system like Bank.
They recently adapt their swapping system, like the one that we use daily on Uniswap and stuff like that.
They do adapt that on swapping different currency that you don't have to go to the bank or you don't even have to like exchange it at the exchange store or anything.
So it's just, it's really easy to get access.
And the power of blockchain does a lot for that.
And we just need each other from the Web2 and Web3 perspective.
We, yeah, run into each other to make that happen.
So I want to pass the mic to Vitalis.
Yeah, I just wanted to add to your point about scam.
If you just look what like average non-crypto user, what information average non-crypto user has about crypto, it's like so embarrassing.
Sometimes all this, I don't know, TV shows and all the information that's going to mass media, it is absolutely so cringy and does not reflect a crypto industry at all.
I mean, probably, even if you look at the biggest influencers out of this space, it's like the same.
And this crypto shark tank that we launched recently, it's like, yeah, it's terrible.
I'm not surprised why they do think about it.
But also probably another misconception is many people are thinking that crypto is just trading, like trading coins.
And very few of them know about technological part.
And probably also a good top up to previous question we've discussed.
One of the things that keeping me in Web3 is that absolutely, honestly, I've never seen a combination of so smart people with a combination of absolute digents.
And I love that because sometimes you feel too boring with smart people.
And vice versa is two digents and crypto is kind of giving you a full range of spectrum.
Beautiful.
Absolutely right.
I want to move this question to Yellow, if you have something to point out about that as well, if you started on crypto.
Wait, what was the question?
If I started on crypto?
Yeah, for sure.
Don't worry.
What do you think is the most misconception about crypto as a whole?
Or you can say Web3.
Oh, crypto is a scam.
Even I believed it like a few years ago.
My mom actually bought Ethereum when it was 100 bucks.
And I said, mom, you're getting scammed.
She's early.
What do you mean?
She's early.
Now, bro, bro, bro.
Now, you know, I'm the biggest advocate for Web3 gaming.
What a plot twist.
By the way, your mom is a better trader than me.
I bought Ethereum at $400.
So that's a different story that we don't want to cover.
But Jared, what's our next question?
I mean, I guess something that would be kind of cool would be what would be the, I guess, what's kind of the gaming thesis that will get us to mass adoption?
Like, I think in general, we see what real world assets is kind of popping up everywhere.
We see a lot of different things.
So I guess just different insights on that.
Something that I've seen recently, we do quite a bit of business and marketing and connections in Japan.
So I know recently we've seen like a lot of legendary artists and creators that are ready to make that jump to Web3, especially in Japan.
And it's kind of a part of the national initiative in Japan.
So that's a bit of a catalyst there that I think will lead to mass adoption in Asia.
I guess just to start off with that, Yellow Panther, I think you're very interested in the Asian markets with gaming.
What do you think is something that will lead gaming to mass adoption, like what we call Web2 users?
So I think I've been around traveling Asia, you know, Korea, Singapore, Philippines, and many others.
I see that a lot of them need a combination, not just a Web3 game, but mobile compatible games to reach a wider audience.
And, you know, obviously all the basic stuff that we need to eliminate, like onboarding, wallets, etc.
Like those are key elements because people here are very simple.
We just want a few clicks and we are into the game and we are playing it.
And if it's a good game, we'll tell our friends just like any other game.
So I think everything else, you know, it's the same as a Web2 game.
It's just that don't put too much emphasis on the technology, put it behind, you know, what everyone has been saying for the past few months.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah, really beautiful response to that.
I think we like this thing that we so solely focus about, but generally it's bigger than what we think.
Yeah, maybe ladder protocol.
Do you guys have any ideas there?
You're more on the NFT side, but what can lead towards mass adoption there?
Oh, I'm a big believer in just one part, especially NFT, is that it represents digital ownership.
So I think that, like, basically, like one of my favorite stories is that Vitalik created the serum because his account in World of Warcraft was blocked.
And he had some expensive inventory.
So I think that's a really great example.
And as gaming industry is becoming bigger in terms of money supply and investments from consumers,
I think that digital ownership just becoming more and more important.
And, obviously, centralized way is controversial because, like, if we're speaking about, like, some stuff that costs $5 or $10,
it's obvious that users don't really care a lot about it.
But as prices go up, they do.
I mean, on average, we see the more and more expensive items inside games.
It means that users care more and more.
So I just think that, like, cases in precedence when we see extremely expensive items close to real estate or at least starting with vehicles more common in gaming industry.
Therefore, we see NFT implementation as also more common way because that's a real way of ownership and that it excludes some, like, taking advantage on gamers by gaming companies or some just dishonest attitude and stuff like that.
Yeah, ownership is, I guess, once you realize the idea of that ownership, it's really key, right?
It's something that's different rather than just kind of getting rid of a game.
Then you have a new game and then there's, like, a new skin, right?
This is something that can be passed from game to game and across blockchains, which I think, like, Battlefly, you guys are kind of looking to go into multi-chain there.
Maybe you can speak about that.
Like, what do you think is getting real traction in your game that could kind of lead towards a wider adoption?
I think, you know, being accessible, the things that Yellow spoke about, I think being available wherever the player wants to play it, whether it's the chain that they're, you know, they're hanging out on most of the day or the device that they want to use.
Those are really important sort of table stakes.
I think something we've seen really drive adoption for us is the social element of gaming.
And I think the, you know, our biggest user acquisition numbers sort of came around the time that we did some stuff on Frentech, you know, where we actually ran a tournament and we said, you can join a micro guild with Frentech accounts and they're going to play and you're going to sort of be part of their guild.
And if they win the new win and if they don't win, then at least you get to cheer them on.
And that was really interesting to see because I think not everybody who is interested in a game necessarily wants to play it all the time.
And if you look at a lot of the content on YouTube, a lot of what drives views is people who love the game, watching other people play it, that esports sort of element.
And I think if you can take that sort of esports passion, combine it with something social and whether it's social fire or something else and really drive this sort of idea of guilds and micro guilds and people teaming up to compete, I think we'll see adoption happen really quickly.
I think humans, you know, whether it's volleyball or something else, they kind of love being part of a team, they love teaming up together to play against an opponent.
And I think Web3 can do that in a way that is permissionless, is truly global, can span languages, games, all sorts of things in a way that the traditional gaming companies could never engineer.
Yeah, thanks for that.
Maybe, I guess, just since, like, we've been kind of talking in general about gaming, but maybe you can introduce, like, just Battlefly in general.
Like, I think you have several game modes.
You were saying that Magic of the Gathering elements, like it has some elements of Magic of the Gathering.
But if you can introduce that, that would be great.
So, Battlefly, we have a few games that are already out.
Our main game, as I mentioned, is a game called Battlegrounds.
And it definitely appeals to a lot of players of Hearthstone, Magic of the Gathering, these sort of deck builder games.
I am one of those players.
I play a bunch of deck building games and have historically.
So, certainly, that helps inform a lot of the product around it.
And it is a game that combines those deck building elements where you're going to open up packs of mods, which are sort of like your equipment, your cards that go on to your Battleflies.
And you're going to almost build a deck.
It's a small deck.
You're going to build out a deck of essentially just four different components and equip it onto your Battlefly.
And that's what you're going to fight with throughout the day.
Where it deviates from a game like Magic or Hearthstone is that those games are very time intensive.
A game of Magic the Gathering can take somewhere between 20 minutes to an hour and a half.
And we know that a lot of a, you know, Web3 audience, specifically the audience that's going to be interested in some more of this financialization of fun, people that, you know, like these more mature games, don't often have hours and hours to play every single day to be actively playing games, right?
Like, I get just absolutely obliterated by 12-year-olds and Apex Legends often enough to know that I don't have the free time to keep up with them.
And so instead of playing those games throughout the day, instead of having to spend dozens and dozens of hours actually playing, you get to do the interesting part, the strategy part, which is that deck building.
So once you build out your Battlefly, you send it out to battle throughout the day.
We have an arena that's free to play where you'll just earn our in-game rewards.
And then we have an arena that's monetized.
And you, every single battle, will put forth a little bit of crypto and your opponent will as well.
It's about five cents.
And if you win, you get the crypto that your opponent put forward.
And so you can make money playing our game.
That's not the total selling thesis.
It's also fun.
But it is, you know, the financialization of fun, just like with something like poker, can be a big driver for some people as well.
And so that's our main game mode.
We also have a mini game that's out right now that plays a little bit more actively, a lot more actively.
It is sort of just like a auto-runner game, kind of plays like Angry Birds plus Star Fox.
It's just a way to kind of get some more of our in-game currency.
It's very fun.
And then, as mentioned, we have a new game mode coming out.
That's our draft format.
It plays kind of like draft or sealed deck or Hearthstone Arena, if you've played that.
Gods Unchained, just their sealed mode.
It's in a similar vein as that as well.
So, yeah, you'll come with no equipment on your Battlefly, a brand-new Battlefly.
And you will get a bunch of packs to open right there to use just in that event.
And you will play a tournament against a bunch of other people.
And those are a little bit more active.
We'll be changing out mods and strategizing between every round.
So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of Battlefly.
It's a deck builder, auto-battler.
So, we, you know, want to give you all the depth of those strategy games, but respect your time while you're playing.
Yeah, that's really cool.
So, it has play-to-earn elements built into it, which I think that's a big thing with Web3 Gaming here.
But, like, have you guys thought about, is there, like, starter packs or anything to get people going?
Because a lot of the play-to-earn would be, they end up kind of being more buy-to-win.
But it's nice whenever you have, like, a little starter pack or just some easy way to get involved.
We do.
We have, you can join through buying an NFT and depositing money into the game if you'd like to do the competitive arena, like I said, or you can play for free in our casual arena.
We also do have starter bundles and various bundles and promotions that we give away.
So, we very regularly have, we just did for our newest expansion that just launched about two weeks ago now, we had a free bundle.
Where you get a brand new battlefly, a soulbound battlefly, the credits that you need to do a battle, and some mod packs to open completely for free.
So, you would just be able to join in and start playing, costing nothing.
And then we regularly have starter bundles for sale for about $5, $6.
And those come with, again, a battlefly, four mod packs, a bunch of battle credits to get you into that paid arena without having to put any more money in.
So, yeah, you can get started in battlefly basically for just $5, or if you catch on the right time where we're doing those promotions, join in for free.
And, yeah, it's really easy to onboard.
Awesome. Thanks.
We're kind of getting close to the top of the hour to close this space.
Maybe what we can do is just one round of some updates that you guys have to close enough of the year.
All right.
So, we're at Q4.
What do you guys have lined up leading up to Christmas would be pretty cool to hear.
Morf, maybe you could start us off.
Yeah, for sure.
Thank you so much.
I think Do has a lot when it comes to, like, expanding, especially in Asia market.
We are looking for onboard more quality games project in the future as well.
So, as far as with the more products on Do website, we are implementing the bidding system really, really soon.
Just so looking forward to that.
And the fact that this chapter one, we got a lot of support from a lot of our traders that like to trade on Do that when you have a Do name.
Still, you can get Do name on a secondary since we closed the minting already.
But you still can get to Do name since it's mandatory to earn the Do point each chapter that will impact the future of the airdrop box as well.
So, each chapter, we do have the claim airdrop box for traders back.
So, traders who trade on Do, you can claim Do airdrop box at the end of each chapter.
And that airdrop boxes will impact the token airdrop in the future as well.
Since right now, the market is looking really good so far.
We did have a lot of correction, but we come back up really strongly.
And so, we're looking for the future bull run.
Yeah, thank you so much.
It would be interesting to see how we can bring chapter one into a StarzKVM once we have mainnet launched.
So, that would be pretty neat.
Ladder protocol.
Vitalis, what's some updates you guys have to close off the year?
Yeah, so, Ladder is a pretty new project itself.
And we are just gearing towards mainnet launch.
So, we've been on the testnet for a couple of months and planning mainnet launch very soon.
Hopefully, going to cook something together with you very soon as well.
So, going to be launched on Polygon mainnet first, then expanding to BSC.
I think it's also in our plans by the end of this year.
And, yeah, we are actively onboarding new games and negotiating with new games to implement AMM.
It requires a lot of education, by the way, because I was pretty surprised that many games in Web3 are actually built by Web2 founders.
So, it requires a lot of effort telling why AMM is technically better for both projects and users.
Yeah, so, I think that are major milestones.
And the mainnet launch is a big work.
So, hopefully, it's going to be successful in terms of ops and marketing as well.
So, yeah, that's amazing.
I think it's just in time.
It's definitely a good time to do it, right?
Q4 and right before the halving.
And there's a huge interest now.
So, that works out real well.
Yeah, yeah.
We are trying to time market as we can.
And, like, having a slow airdrop on going, rewarding early supporters, but not very active.
We're not very active in terms of marketing just because market was pretty low.
And now going to invest more efforts into that.
And, yeah, thankfully, market is becoming more and more active.
Amazing.
And I know Battlefly, you guys got to talk a bit, but maybe Gyro, if there's anything you wanted to let people know, what you guys got in the pipeline besides Coliseum.
I'll let Ben take this one.
Go for it, Ben.
So, we've got lots of artificial intelligence prototyping happening at the moment.
Can't say too much about it, but we're taking a really interesting tack on this.
It's not so much about art as around some of the new possibilities in gameplay that we can open up with that.
So, we're expecting to have something sort of this year that's an early taste of that, very, very early taste of that.
We are starting to rethink some of our creative, I think, as we get ready for Season 4 and beyond.
You know, starting to look at some of the artwork around Battlefly and leveling that up, I think, as we grow.
And then, you know, I guess there's a lot that we, a lot of levers we haven't yet pulled around our tokenomics and things.
Like, we've launched our governance token, GFly.
It's just sort of, you know, sitting there listed on MEXC.
But there is a lot more that we want to do with sort of bringing, you know, the token more connected to the game.
And so, that's probably going to be our big focus for the next six months once we get Coliseum Live.
Amazing.
Yeah, thanks for sharing that.
Yeah, thanks, everyone, for coming to the space.
I mean, personally, I learned a lot.
And it was just good to connect with other people that are in the industry, just talking, which is kind of cool.
I look forward to seeing what everyone's building.
I'll definitely be following, especially over the next quarter.
We should do this very often from now.
I think we've got a lot of good topics to cover as well.
Yeah, looking forward for the next space.
Yeah, absolutely.
More spaces, well, we'll definitely have more with due, which would be great.
And hopefully invite Battlefly and get, you know, an update what's next in ladder protocol.
That'd be great.
I definitely agree there.
I wish everyone success and have a great weekend.
I'll close off the space.
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