Yeah, thanks for having me. It was an unreal experience and getting to meet Jeremy was just dope. Really, really dope. Something still gives me energy. So yeah, I'm excited to be here.
I'm still recovering from your tweet. That was just so beautiful. We need to pin that in this space so people can read it because it was the best, the best response in tweet I've seen. So maybe we can find that in pinning here.
It was really, really amazing. So thank you for sharing that. I'm turning that right there into an audiogram. It will be a live testimonial on my website. Just so you're on that. That's amazing. Please do.
Love it. Yeah, we're, you know, I don't think we'll keep you too long. I think what we want to do is hang out and give folks a chance to ask questions if they want to learn more about the project that you introduce.
kind of what you're up to and it's really never been done before. So it takes some time to kind of understand and wrap, wrap our heads around everything you're trying to accomplish with this and you have your drop coming up tomorrow.
on OpenC. So I think my first question Jeremy has really started to begin in and walk us through like what is ours and and what's every I mean maybe not everything but what are you putting into it as far as you know what's the art like
Yeah, it all, I mean, it's really been brewing for 10 years. I've been in my studio, I work in Sydney and right now. Kind of just experimenting and trying weird things with photography for a very
a very long time, and two years ago I got into the NFT space and I've done some various projects and it was just in January of this year where it hit me where I was like
I think I can do it 10k in 10 minutes. It was just a crazy idea. Like my whole career, I just follow the ideas that don't think about money or whatever, I just follow ideas.
The idea of a 10k in 10 minutes was like insane, but it just really intrigued me. I'm drawing the things that are very hard. So I started testing the cameras and 10k in 10 minutes wasn't quite possible, but 10k in 20 minutes
was. So I started pitching the idea to some colleagues and peers and they all got the vision and saw something much bigger and so we kind of went for it and produced this
massive event here in Nashville with, you know, it took an army of a team to put this together. And that was just this past Tuesday. And so the idea was that I would shoot, you know, burst mode myself and the recent, of myself
was, you know, at first I was like, I need a subject. So it's going to use like some random celebrity and then that didn't make sense. And now I was going to maybe use a model that didn't make sense either, you know, because people use PIPs, that's their PIP.
I was like, "Oh, nobody wants a model. Is there a PFP or me or a celebrity?" So then I landed on the idea of a mannequin. That was weird too, because a mannequin can't move or do anything. So then I landed on the idea of like turning myself into a mannequin, basically a human projection screen.
and get really excited about that idea. And then the idea was to just have like tons of art like kind of rotating through on my face and body and on the background at the same time. But differently. So
like 10 frames per second on me and on the background. And then there's all kinds of other, you know, the prism reflections and lasers and different editing styles, different lighting styles, different poses that are different, different literal set of war.
And so it was like taking rarity into considerations as well. So I was like performing all the rarity. Anyway, so the day of we, which lasted all day and it really truly did not work. And I had been tested
in my studio all along and it was working fine. But what I did take into account was adding, you know, adding in the fact of plugging into 130-foot projection screen, you know, $5 million LED board screen. So that really complicated the whole
thing in terms of how much weight my computer could bear. So yeah, it was the shit show all day on Tuesday and I was like freaking out. And then somehow we worked for a couple hours with this genius program, AppScript,
guy and Denmark and he literally built some custom scripts for me the date of hours before they have done and he kind of saved the day. When I started shooting it still didn't work. There's like three minutes
it's where the whole screen went black. The audience thought that was part of the performance but it wasn't. So the screen was black. My camera transmitter didn't work and it was just like, oh my gosh, here we go again. And then we scrambled, the screen came on.
fix the transmitter and then it's off to the racists. So when I actually started shooting we did land at 10k in like 18 or 19 minutes. So somehow it all happened very long interview question.
Yeah, thanks. So what are all the different pieces and different elements that go into going to each shot? Yeah, forget it.
going to remember off to my head, let's see the different where the traits are, the things that I did, so like the different directions that I looked, all the different art on my body, all the different art on the background, whether a laser or a prism was
the lens, then we had the different lighting styles with the different photo editing styles, the different physical hats that I put them ahead, you know, beanies, ballcats, the doors, the old-eil.
And then there's some like rares and super rares, which I did kind of mix with jitter of code in my own like art and paintings and photos. So yeah, and then there's a thing of one of one tossed in there as well, which is pretty cool.
and then you're gonna change out, you know, change the hat and the position and then do a set more. Did you have it like planned down to like the minute?
Yeah, we had my buddy Jonathan Smith kind of like I told him like on where this had the most this had a little bit this at less you know and I gave him kind of an idea and so then I just let him kind of dictate to me you know window change hat because
already had weed him anything technical things else think about so I couldn't also be thinking about the timing of hats and so yeah he would just tell me like when to change what to do which helped me because I was literally firing the camera on one hand and
controlling the laser pens with my left hand so I had I had plenty to think about multitasking that's that's impressive yeah I'm welcome logic yeah thanks for coming up what's up logic yo good guys could grab
Hey, Chris. Hey, how you doing? Chris in a Jeremy broke the grass bro that was That was amazing to watch man. I streamed it as you were generating those amazing pieces Yeah, dark. It wasn't it wasn't boring by any means I know you know that they're like it was born to watch it was not boring it was something
and innovative and it took a lot. Like it was just, you had a squad around you, this energy was amazing to witness and yeah man, looking forward to seeing more from you. I know you just released this one but if that's what you got up here, sleep, I know you got so, so much more in all the things that you've been doing here.
Man, the man's a lot coming for me. Yeah, it was a way more like meaningful and emotional than I was expecting. I mean, Christine, you know, stated that also eloquently. But yeah, I wasn't expecting, you know, people audience to be crying and you know, all that.
Yeah, I think when people go to it and feel like that they expect me to like I don't know thinking my head I was like they're expecting like a full-on So little does they know that I'll actually just be like sitting there, but um So I kind of had to tell the audience like even though just be sitting there a promise at what you're about to see
see is really like not something that's been done before. So thankfully I never heard a single complaint about a, you know, somebody being bored, people really did seem to get what the what the goal was. So it was right. Yeah, bro. It was performing performance art at its
especially from a photographer. I personally am a fan of performing artists like Maria Abbermovic, I know I'm probably butchered her name but like watching her documentary, the artist president, etc., etc. when those people had an intimate moment with you watching those Florida sillings
screen, filling totally and golf, those mad intimate and you just being very vulnerable. I know as artists we can get caught up in our head about this or that, but to be honest on a day to day basis, what we do in the studio is not what the average person is consuming on a day to day basis. So for them to
to watch you show yourself process, not being afraid of leaning into things, not working out the way they should have per technical reasons or creative reasons. And I think it inspires people to a level that I don't think you personally, I know you know how big it is, but even
that emotional level and how you affect people, I think it may not even, you might not even realize who you've touched just in that moment. So, who else do you keep going man? And I'm definitely on a cop-on. - Man, seriously, means the world coming for me. That's really, really sweet, very special. Thank you.
Yeah, thanks, logic. Yeah, Jeremy, I want to talk about kind of the dropped tomorrow on some of the timings and some of the details there. Just so everybody knows that. And then I'll go to Christina. We'd love to hear
her experience of the event. I want it was like being there on the you know watching watching you model and shoot at the same time. So yeah what do we need to know about tomorrow?
Yeah, at Mining and Central Town, if you hold a block, you will get a free minute. We took a snapshot of May 3rd. So if you hold one, you'll get a free mint there.
and even tonight. I was going to do, I was trying to do a free mint per black wine if you had them in your wallet and then at your for less tonight the open sea can't actually provide that which sucks. So I told my discord if you move them around real quick into different wallets.
you'll still get a pre-mint per wallet. You hold a block-wing, some haven't people email me anyways. So, block-wing holders get a pre-mint in any essential time. A tinny essential time that is the allow-out.
meant which will be .033 ETH and then at 11 AM central time is public meant and that is .044 ETH and I dropped those prices just today because I realized just
things are harder now gas prices suck and everything is brutal and so like you know what like I'm definitely taking a hit but you know I want to help people out and help them get into this project so yeah just lower the prices today and I hope that I'll have that
helps people and then yeah we'll do a, everybody will get the standard avatars and then reveal, we're not really sure yet but reveal will probably be in a couple of days when everything reveals help so yeah I'm pumped.
Awesome. Well, yeah, good luck on the mint tomorrow. I look forward to it to that. I have a block queen. So I'll be in there early and then I'll be minting later, but yeah, Christina. Yeah, tell us a bit about your experience and I pinned your your threat up top, but also just love for you to share what it was like.
It was just beautiful. At the end of the day, like I have not attended a number of performance art pieces, so I'll contextualize my experience with that. But from the minute that I walked in, not only was the tech on display with this on the
believe a huge screen that had clarity you couldn't even fathom. But it was a real familial environment which I think is a testament to Jeremy and what he's building and what he's doing in the local Nashville community.
some amazing emerging web three figures, the rainbow motions of the world, step sudo, and escapes, like some really great people. So Jeremy's obviously incredibly well connected and leading in that space with web three, but you also have this group of people
his family, his friends, other Nash villains, which is a new word that I learned what they call each other, that were just there and supporting. So from that experience, it was just a really beautiful
energy and I think logic explained it. It's crazy that that translated through a live stream that happened globally. But it really was that there was an energy of support. There was an energy of just really like creativity and people wanting to be there to experience something.
which I thought was great. And I think in all the work that I've done with artists exposing and putting your process out there, not only yourself having to document it, but then the vulnerability to put yourself out there in that and allow other
people to see it, it's so much. There's so many emotions. There's so much around it. So it's really a level that an artist has to bring themselves to and as Jeremy describes, that's 10 years, 20 years in the making.
And so that was really clear. I think from a personal perspective, I was just in it. And it was really just one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen and experienced. And I know Jeremy spoke to the fact that there was that three minutes at the beginning where things weren't working.
know in the lifetime of an artist during a performance that can seem like an eternity, but we talked about it after that was just part of it. I think it lended like a tiny bit of humanity to the whole thing because it really was sort of inhuman what Jeremy was pulling off.
And the other thing I'll comment on and why I think it was more entertaining than boring as you know Jeremy you said it kind of is you played into so many different elements so you had photography and your own work
over these last couple of decades, you had the technology that's bleeding edge, that kind of product to be able to pull it off and to do so in such a big, a big way. And then you added this classical music piece that
kind of just created chills while you're watching it with like the juxtaposition of all these bright colors and real real fast moving things. You as the subject, it was just crazy and then you kind of took you took
Everyone threw it as well. So I think that was the last thing I'll say, which was really impressive is that there was this web through crew there, but there was also a number of people Web to Web one web none that were in the space as well that to us
Everything made sense the language that Jeremy was using was all things we were familiar with but to people on the outside looking in there was an education that needed to happen as well And I just thought that was really well done that Jeremy took the time to say like this is what's going on and this is what's happening
And I wasn't going to use AI, but I realized that the outcomes and the outputs would be more beneficial or would benefit from the use of that technology. So he was kind of taking everyone along as well, and it really was an experience. So I'll quit gushing, but yes, it was dope.
Gosh, thank you so much. It's a real weird to hear any feedback, but it's just so cool. Like when I'm, you know, for me, I was just all stressed. All like my mind was not. My mind was just all in the technical aspects of
what was happening. I knew that Christina's music was just utterly ridiculous and perfect for the moment. Like when I first heard her there was a night about two months. Well, but I'm in Africa where I tested Ores one Friday night alone in
studio and I just had chills like I couldn't believe it was a really weird idea and I couldn't believe that word and then about a week later I connected with Christina and I just tested her music behind the little crappy iPhone video that I shot and I nearly cried then because it was just
So powerful. Some of the classical music mixed in, like you said, with the, with the insane visuals. But the moment of, you know, I'm just locked into gosh, shitter speeds laptop is the tether cable tethering is, you know, capture one able to
keep up, but we're going to hit 10k like, "Mom, man, it's all in the technical side of it." And so to hear your reaction and logic is just really, really sweet. It just makes it all feel like dang, like it's worth it. It worked, we did it, you know, it's really cool. So thank you.
Yeah, so I just pinned some examples. You can also go a couple pin tweets back to actually check the gallery and you can see I think the entire collection, right?
which is just incredible. It's like Wizardry. And Black and White when it's in the room. That Black and White when it's... Yeah, some of these are just like blow my mind. Because I watched you take these and I
I just, as a terrible photographer personally, I'm like, "How?" It just doesn't, I don't understand it. But talk about some of the art that you were projecting both on yourself and the background.
Where did it all come from?
Yeah, it's it's I'm glad you're asking no one no one disaster yet. Um, he was kind of a last minute decision to um You know like I was I was personally paranoid because I didn't want I don't want this to be the Jeremy Kowalshow even though it kind of was but you know like the idea of taking
10,000 cell portraits was kind of like the most faint thing ever but that's what covered my face up. So you can see me, but I just kind of fell in love with this idea of projecting humanity on me because then everything I do from this hotel that I'm all
Also the founder of the years ago launched a nonprofit where we take photos of people in need and that's now happened in over 80 countries around the world over a million gorgeous taken for those in need. And so I was like, how do I channel that mentality of humanity into this?
And so I had the idea to use AI to create these different characters. And so we literally type in Brazilian woman, you know, man in Peru, you know, one line drawing. And I just like, and I wish I had more time to come
ever even more different types of characters, but I just started like having AI create as much humanity using a one line drawing as possible. And then to see those one line drawings like projected onto me are even like more beautiful
than I could have ever imagined because it really really does look like these other characters and not not a picture of me but it looks like this this strange beautiful representation of others and so yeah I'm really I'm really thrilled that that worked the way I intended
And the rest, there was a ton of art and paintings that I made, photos that I made, Polaroid, and then regarding, yeah, I just kind of wanted to, like, I mean, it really was representative of the way I paint, which is just super simple.
super abstract and loose and you don't really like when you're doing an abstract painting you don't know where the paint is going to splash. You don't know where and how it's going to drip. You don't know how the colors are going to interact with each other because they're all wet and they're all moving around. And so in the same way I'm going to start
really is almost like abstract photography because I don't know the ways that the images on my body and the images in the background are going to interact nor do I know how the prisms in front of the lens are going to interact with are going to do to the image and so you've very
very much was in the same way that I paint, but with photography. And so, you know, all the other images, you know, sometimes you'd have these rays of light mixed in with this like polar ice-licking background, but then you'd have pictures
a kitten switch is just a funny little thing out through in there to make people laugh in the background with like something else crazy in my body and so as as I scroll through the 10,000 images I mean it was just surprise after surprise this is so much fun to dig through
all 10K over the last four days because I think I shocked even myself in terms of the diversity in the range and the emotions and so all of that was the goal of the word "oris" is really just to to create these like beings
beings that represent all kinds of people, all colors, all beliefs that some of all people. And I hope is that that is seen and received. And yeah, so that was kind of the idea behind all the art.
Yeah, amazing. Yeah, some of these are, you know, I logic was just talking about that first one that I pinned.
I keep like zooming in. I'm like, where is Jeremy? It just looks like this crazy art. So I'm a work. Awesome. You know what I'm doing? What is just ridiculous right now is I'm actually re-editing the entire 10K. Oh my gosh, it's so dumb.
it took me four days to do in the first place. When I say re-edit, like I didn't, they added them the night out. So if you saw the broadcast, like they were actually edited immediately using a crazy script at the thing that we wrote, but I still had to go individually and just like
make sure of certain things and look at everyone and if there were some that were too dark or too bright or too saturated or desaturated, I looked at every single photo and it took four days, four full days. And now I'm like so mad at myself because
It's hard to explain, but there were some just modern calibration stuff that I had forgot to reset. And so essentially the entire 10k collection is too dark for my own taste. And so I'm going back through over the next couple of days and re-editing the entire
tire she didn't re exporting because I want you know and I have to look at this for the next you know however long I want it to be perfect and it's not so I'm gonna I'm gonna redo all the work yeah well I know you have the other craziest work I think and a lot of it and it comes from
passion for your art and just a desire to have it come out the way that you'd vision it. So, mad respect there. I wish there was like an easy script where you could just like, you know, light it all up all once but let's probably not have it working. Yeah, they're kind of as I did.
I'm using this brilliant guy and Denmark. He's building another little custom script for me that essentially I can select one editing cell at a time in my in Capture and Pro and then I can add all of those. I would actually will
be it won't take another even one day if it only take about half a day to go in and re-edit each of the adding styles but then to export you know 10k if it does an upload 10k again won't be a few hours but it should be two or glad I'm doing it
Awesome. Well yeah, if anyone down there wants to come up and ask any questions, we got Jeremy here. It's a gift to have you chatting with us. I know you've got a thousand things to do for the drop tomorrow and we want to make sure you get some rest for a big day. But yeah, anything
questions feel free to comment tap on the bottom right corner if you want to just ask a question via text or yeah hit the request button come on up so logic Christina any questions yet for Jeremy
what is so far the favorite combination that you've seen between all of the rarity traits.
I wish I had an answer for that. I have to go back through and look. It's all so good. Somebody says, "What needs to give you a bill listing to and you just go blank?" There's still someone that I tweeted the other day, whereas the woman looking off to the side,
I just had the right editing style on it and it's really simple, kind of, Rothko style of abstract A.I. painting behind me. And that one definitely was such a vibe, just such a mood that just felt
right. There's some of these images that took my breath away and then some are like, "Oh, that's horrible." But that's kind of a normal artist thing to have those reactions. But yeah, and then some are just straight up weird and bizarre and almost creepy.
And I think that also represents humanity. I think we all have these different emotions and sometimes I'm probably creepy and weird and sometimes all these different styles that are in within, worse, they probably
really are in me. I mean, out of me, you know, I think that's a cool way to look at it. You know, I definitely have just super disturbing, you know, art in my head and all these really weird ideas that don't really match up to the person that people know and, you know, my personality
But I like that that reveals itself in Oris and then you get these really sweet, you know, just human portraits when that showcases my love for humanity and my kids and family and all that stuff. So yeah, it's just cool that somehow it all comes out.
Awesome. Yeah, I just pin that this last one will just find this one. I'm sure you're scrolling through and you're like, what? Like it's just so perfect like you couldn't have staged that any better. It's awesome. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, Jesse, welcome on.
a photography project that has nothing to do with the blockchain and it could have just been like in our project, why did you choose the format of connecting this to the blockchain, allowing people to own them? Why was that important to you? Because obviously that was a super intentional choice.
Yeah, well, I mean the black thing is what gave me the whole idea, you know, in terms of the tin-k and just pulling the space so closely for so long and like being a collector myself and owning a ton of projects a lot of PIPs, a lot of one-on-one
one are the full range. This space to me just feels like home because it really is this mash up of digital and fine art. Like always, I feel like I was too arty and too weird for the commercial photography world.
but then I always felt too commercial and too digital for the finite world. And so within FTEs, it just feels like the perfect mix of where I belong. And so, yeah, I wouldn't have it any other way. I mean, this was
and if teas are nothing, you know, I don't know that I would have done it otherwise. And so I don't know they would have a home because I'm not really established in the fine world. I do think this would be something that, you know, if I found the right people that like the moment we love or are bothered
So like this is definitely belongs in a performance art type thing like that, but I just don't have you know those connections to do it So I'll like well, I'll just make my own event and do it myself and so yeah, it's gotta how it all happened
by the way, you all got to follow Jets as well, Jason. Connected New York City a few weeks ago and just had an amazing day together. The guy is brilliant.
as is all the other speakers here as are. Yeah, I think some things Jesse and Christina go ahead.
I think I'd love to just hear your thoughts. One theme that I've been exploring a lot lately is just this idea of fear and why for many many years I think I was waiting for this moment of fearlessness.
That ultimately, you know, over time you learn is never going to come. And I think fear is something that we all face in a variety of different ways, but from an artist's perspective, the need to do it afraid, especially when you're pushing the boundaries, the way that you are.
It's just so important and I just wondered if you could speak to that of how you deal with these moments of fear when they come up and yet you still persist and you still put yourself out there regardless of the risk or the emotions of fear that you're feeling at that time.
Fantastic question. My absolute favorite book, by the way, "Field of Nibbler-Rita" is the War of Art by Stephen Pressfield. He talks about resistance. You know, resistance can be literally anything that's keeping you from doing the work you're supposed
to be doing. It could be your voices of doubt, it could be your schedule, it could be your, you know, your addictions, it could be literally anything that's keeping you away from what you're doing. And I've just kind of learned that like fear is just always there. It's always going to be there.
But it also interests me. Like if I'm afraid of something, I'm drawn to it. Like there's so many things that I've done in my career that are just a good at, but they're easy. And when they get easy, they get boring. When they get boring, I take out and kind of hate life because I'm not
being pushed and not intrigued. And so if I'm afraid of something that has always meant that, you know, something there, I mean, anytime you hear, like some famous actor talk about why they did a movie, they usually will say, because I was afraid of it, you know,
because it was something new and something challenging. And then I think back to being a kid and you know that feeling of like going into the heart house or going on the ropes course, like I always wanted to go first. Like I've always been drawn to this like, ooh,
want to be scared and back then when we all grew up, you know, part houses were actually scary where they could touch you and grab you and you know before lawsuits anyway and so this was my whole life and whether it's a part house or kid or a big scary project like Horace which it has
been I'm still drawn to that because I just feel like even if you fail you're gonna learn a ton you know there's a much bigger project I've been tackling for a long time which is to build this hotel in good Lord is Cage Mountain but for long
time, but I'm just learning learning learning a long time and something like well. Even if I fail, I'll show others that it's okay to fail. I'll show my kids that it's okay to fail. And in the meantime, I'll learn a lot. So yeah, just keep and then the other important thing to know
is that people don't remember your failures. They just don't. They remember what you eventually succeeded at and they even admire you for going into the failure. And so I've learned that as well, like, no matter what, just try it. It's not going to hurt anything to go for it.
Yeah, thanks for those thoughts. It's really inspiring and love that you face those fears and you know, took on this really ambitious collection.
Thank you for sharing it with us and choosing to make an NFC's. But yeah, I mean, I think there's so much that you could do later too with the like showing
even if you had an exhibition where it was like the whole collection just projected and then also the video of it being shot and just people being able to see how those came to be and then now they live on the blockchain. So really incredible stuff.
I think, well Jeremy, I think we better let you go so you can finish all the last details and we'll look forward to minting this tomorrow morning. You can check open C for the drop page. It's, if you don't open C and then it's the feature drop.
That's the luck tomorrow. Hope folks really recognize what they got here and appreciate you lowering the prices. That's something that I think you really looked out for collectors and middle of a crazy gas couple weeks and
So crazy marketing and so Of course, yeah, well, I appreciate you hosting this and and all your your strategy help you and one and just a y'all been Invisible in this project
So really really appreciate y'all are geller freaking brilliant them meeting we had in New York a few weeks ago was was top notch I was just blown away by yellows and sites so thanks for that. Yeah, thanks Jeremy. All right, good luck tomorrow and we will see you
you. Thank you. We'll see you soon. I think you've got a couple spaces tomorrow morning afternoon. So I'm going to read a tune in if you're out in the mile too. All right. You know, thank you. Hello.