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Avalanche Builder Programs
Recorded: Jan. 22, 2026 Duration: 0:44:19Space Recording
Short Summary
Avalanche's Retro 9000 C-Chain Round launches innovative grant programs aimed at fostering growth and community engagement, emphasizing metrics-driven rewards and strategic partnerships to enhance the ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Music All right, let's try that again.
Let's try that one again, everybody.
Let's try that one again, everybody. Let's go.
Bullish on the tech company not knowing how to host spaces.
Come on.
I'm trying out here, all right?
Right?
Do you want to kick it back over to Memo with the question?
Yes, I will.
All right, Memo.
I'm going to...
Sorry, everybody.
Hosted the spaces on my desktop, which is apparently a big no-no.
Apparently, you should never do that so uh
just unexpectedly broke okay so uh the question i was going to send to memo before uh the space
rugged is there have been grant programs throughout crypto that have been designed every which way
they've been open-ended they've been been specific, they've been milestone-based, right? And for Retro 9000 C-Chain Round, we think there's a lot of very innovative ways that you
guys are doing this, right? We're trying to find the easiest way that you cannot game,
you know, earning funds that actually contribute to the ecosystem. So the question is, just to refresh for everybody,
is what did you learn from past grant programs
that makes the Retro 9000 Seachain round so special?
Yeah, so again, with this design,
it went so much thought process into it,
learning from previous grant programs.
So we wanted to come up with something
that's very unique and it actually works and it's really metrics-based that it matters.
First, before I go a little bit deeper to that, I just want to shout out to everybody who is
involved in this because there was a lot of work going into that brainstorming and having
conversations with all the vertical leads at
Avalabs Foundation leadership. Just like, what do we do to make this amazing? And I think,
not I think, actually, I'm very confident we came with a very unique solution. And I haven't seen
anything like that out there yet. So we figured out a way pretty much to track all the AVOX burned
through the smart contracts that are submitted.
So if you go to submit a project to the Retro 9000 C chain round,
you have to give obviously the basic information during the intake form,
but then also indicate your contract addresses.
And we came up with an amazing way, so shout out to the tech team,
to do it in a very certain way that it's not gamifiable.
So people cannot somehow try to trick the system and um pretty much with the
leaderboard and with the ongoing competition i think this is really going to show where
who the real winners are because as you you know in the crypto space, everybody claims they have the project.
That's the next thing.
Well, if you're so confident, come and show us to us.
Get your community behind your project, product.
Help, make them help you through voting.
And voting in this case is really using your product and show it.
And if it's the case, you get funded retroactively.
So I think it's a very, very unique design.
And we are super excited that we finally launched it.
And yeah, I think Daniel can also give a little bit more insight
from his perspective.
Daniel?
Yeah, I think you covered most of it, to be honest.
I think this was just the challenge here was we wanted to be metrics driven,
but we also wanted to be highly scalable because this was one challenge we were
facing with other grant programs.
We're a very small team and there is no way we can sort of monitor the whole
ecosystem at scale with one single program without involving everyone from DevRel, BD,
which had a lot of work on their own as well.
It was essentially thinking, how can we automate this?
How can we reach most number of builders?
How can we be fair at the same time?
Metrics-driven, and this was the solution.
Essentially, it's quite simple, really.
If you burn, if you have adoption, if you have users, you get rewarded.
And obviously, this is not for everyone.
There are early stage projects.
But I think the beautiful thing here is we are working as a team.
We are working in terms of thinking about what comes after, thinking about the journey.
And so retro is for growing.
Build Games is for building.
And I'm sure there will be more things coming.
Essentially, we're just trying to think very deeply about how things fit together.
Because in the past, I feel, you know, other ground programs we've done were more sort of isolated and without sort of such a clear fit in the whole picture.
And I just think we're going in the right direction here.
Just want to add one more thing before you take over, Avery.
The beautiful part of the whole C-chain round is
it's going to be every month, right?
So we can adjust it to every need
and change things to make it even better.
So I think that gives us a great opportunity to test it out,
re-evaluate, make it better, test it out, re-evaluate, and make it better.
And we're going to have, well, 10 rounds until the end of the year.
So I'm just like super excited to see.
And again, with the multipliers, as I said, there is going to be a great bonus for build
games.
So once they're coming out with their innovative project, they can get a nice boost joining
retro and every other round, we have different themed multipliers planned.
So yeah, give it back to you, Avery.
That's super excited.
And I think all the builders in the space and listening here,
I think it adds perfect incentives to focus on what matters.
So, very excited on seeing this come to life.
And then, of course, in coordination with infamous build games um
there was a question um before the space rugged in the old space that was from eric on chain i
hope he's still here if he's not you know maybe maybe it'll be valuable for somebody
eric on chain said hey guys not sure if it's worth to ask for the mic. I'm building
payments with AVAX and stables on avalanche. Can we apply to the fund? And if granted,
use the funds to market our avalanche payment vertical specifically though you want to answer
this or you want me to? Yeah, I, uh, I replied back, but, um, yeah, I'll but I'll take this one. So the short answer is yes, you can apply. However, the goal of the grant is to focus on applications that are using Avalanche, whether it's the token, the gas, the blockchain, whatever it may be in a meaningful way, versus offering it as a one of many chain integration partners. So something like Uniswap, where they support 50 chains,
or Metamask, where they support 50 chains,
probably wouldn't qualify here because it's nothing unique for Avalanche.
And then on the marketing side, the funds, ultimately,
you can use them for dev support, you can use them for R&D,
you can use them for marketing.
But, of course, you need to win first. So the short
answer is probably not. Would you get a grant? Probably not. Can you apply? Yes. But I would
love to see this framed and hey, we support Avalanche, but we want to do this addition to it.
And in the next six weeks, we'll build X, Y, and Z for Avalanche. And we also want to spend more
marketing dollars specifically on the Avalanche, ending people in for Avalanche, and we also want to spend more marketing dollars specifically on
the Avalanche, uh, ending people in the Avalanche ecosystem, that would probably qualify, um, or at
least, you know, go a bit further than, you know, just the, the one-to-many offering.
Good answer. Good answer. Um,
and again, anybody, if you have any questions, just drop them in the uh the space below um
and one point that i do want to bring up is um that we we think i guess for for both these
programs sometimes um there's the uh the thought of like okay what are we trying to do are we
trying to support existing builders in community in this space or are we trying to grow and bring them from outside
and i just want to make it explicitly clear that both are extremely high priority for both of these
programs um that a little while ago like when designing uh build games specifically um we uh
we did a bunch of market research we talked to you to people from Coliseum and all this sort of stuff.
And one thing that they mentioned was that some of the best builders that came out of these competitions
were power users that were already in the community that had actually never taken the leap to become a builder themselves.
And so that is a very specific target demographic that we are obsessed with, with
Build Games. It's people that have been in Avalanche, been lurking. You played around with
this app. You've made a little money here and there, but you've never really taken that leap
to maybe outside of your nine to five job, try and build something of your own. And we think Build Games is an amazing opportunity for anybody who kind of identifies with that, right?
Building things have never been easier.
With Vibe Coding, with AI, you can learn anything.
We have an amazing support system.
You've got to build that AVEX.network.
That is where you apply,
but it's also where there's a zillion different resources
and documentation for you to learn everything you need
to develop an app on Avalanche. And so, yes, we also want to get some all-star founders that may not already be
in the Avalanche ecosystem, welcome them with open arms, give them all the support they need.
But also, if you've been waiting for the right time to take that leap and become a builder yourself,
this is a perfect opportunity for you to do so.
All right, let me check to see if there's any questions here.
While you do that, Avery, I just want to give a shout out to you guys,
the marketing team from Avalabs, and obviously obviously from foundation to tom who is always in the
background but like he's doing so much work in the background uh just wanted to show my appreciation
to him but to also to you guys uh there's been again a lot of work coming into that from the
marketing side as well timing and yeah ice and fire think it's like, it's amazing how everything came together
and it feels so great.
And I'm just, yeah, grateful for all the hard work.
Just wanted to show my gratitude to awards,
you guys specifically.
So shout out to you guys.
Much appreciated, much appreciated.
And likewise, right?
Like, you know, we both kind of came up
with these programs um independently uh but it's just so funny how they just like work hand in hand
to really uh um kind of set all the applications that apply up for success and feel free to um
leave questions under the spaces here,
but we're also going to start to bring people up to see, you know,
talk to them, talk to the people, right?
Let's get that started.
Erwin, how you doing, brother?
Are you kidding?
Who brought Yastin up?
Sorry.
Alright, Irwin, you go crazy.
Irvin.
What's up?
Irvin.
Sorry.
Hey, gang.
So, I just quit my job at Sui and Missenlapse, and I think I'm ready to build an avalanche.
So, what can I build?
Can I build an L1? Supnet? Are you guys looking for apps i mean i think it looks exciting ready to get back on the
avm but i want to know what's on your minds well first off um hell of a chapter congratulations for
uh um you know for doing what needed to be done right i you know i don't know your circumstances
but i'm sure it was for the best, right?
And what else is for the best?
Building on Avalanche, right?
And so I'm going to answer your question
with a question,
what are you passionate about right now?
I think I need to see more robots on chain,
physical robots.
That's what I do.
I actually build robots
and work on AI as part of my PhD research.
So the cool thing about these programs is we think that you are going to wake up every single day getting fired up to build whatever your passions are.
Right. What does robots on chain look like?
What does robots on-chain look like?
I'm not sure.
But I think what's awesome about these programs is that if you kind of find whatever that synergy looks like,
apply to this program, you know, make a nice little pitch.
It could be a new meta that we've never seen before.
And, you know, building a robot, there's nothing in the build game application for Rester 9000 that says you can't build robots.
Right? There's nothing there that says that. And so my, I guess I'm answering that with,
can I immediately picture what the integration would be? No. But you're a really smart guy.
And I've seen you around for a while now. And if you could kind of introduce that use case to the
space, I think that could be exciting. Riven, I just sent you a reading if you want to check it out.
We partnered with Toyota Blockchain Labs.
Yes, the Toyota.
And they're exploring putting robotics and self-driving cars
and different data on chains.
So if you want to take a peek, it might be interesting to you.
Well, 100% we'll do.
And I'll drop Guna a message too as well.
I think we could build something like a better or more exciting bit tensor i think on on avalanche thank you guys great question thank you
jason hands up hey what's up guys how you doing doing great brother good to see you good to see
you too man hey i wanted to give you like just a little bit of feedback. So, you know, I built some stuff on some other chains, like about a year ago,
I built cast three on top of arena. It's like a side project with like some other devs that I know.
And it really caught me off guard in AVAX. I was like, man, there's like no grant stuff for
developers like at all. That isn't kind of like forcing you into certain paths, right? So like, I think AI was the meta and then it was always like, you have to make it an
L1, right.
Which like, isn't a fit for a lot of stuff.
Um, so I just want to say, like, I love how open-ended this is.
I love that it's like, you know, founders, people who want to go make stuff like,
you know, what you want to make and what you think people would like to use.
So like, let's just get you making stuff.
Right. Like instead of trying to shove it into like an avac specific box um so i just want to say like i really like the approach thanks man thanks man uh and by the way uh love cast three um
you know stuff like that is is really a reason of why we create programs um such as this so um really excited
to see what you build and uh hopefully if it goes well um build games becomes uh a thing we do often
so there's always a nice little space for um you know people like yourself to build whatever the
fuck they want on average and find support all right dope dude i threw my hat in the ring man
so i got i had something I was cooking anyway.
Like a lot of people, right? I think people had stuff they were cooking anyway.
And they were like, oh, fuck yeah.
Like I literally was going to do it on Solana.
And I was like, you know what?
Fuck it.
I'll do it on AVAX.
So I love it, man.
I'm here for it.
Amazing.
And again, we're here.
Any way you need help, we are here.
DMs are always open.
Appreciate you.
All right.
We also got Monks and Yastin on staying.
Yastin.Avax is up here with us.
How's it going in your world, brother?
I'm doing good, bro.
Like, what's up, guys?
What's up, everyone?
GM, GM.
Bro, I want to ask you a question this avalanche
program is for the builder and i'm a fucking computer science student but i don't like coding
so what can i build on avalanche i don't fucking did you ever learn how to vibe code yashton
no i don't like coding but I'm a software engineer.
I don't know how I did engineering.
Well, it seems like you need to take a long look in the mirror there, my brother.
Okay, so how can you build something without coding?
This might be a philosophical question.
I can do music video for Avalanche if you guys want.
I want one. I can do music video for Avalanche if you guys want Yeah
Once one yes, and I think I have the perfect idea, right? Yeah, so there's multiple ways to
Get in that, you know interact with build games this awesome burgers and retro 9000 C chain round, right?
There's these beautiful things that we call referrals, right? Referral links.
And there is, you know, 30,000 plus on the table
that you could really win big.
And for content creators like yourself,
who are world-renowned, handsome, talented, like yourself,
a great way is that if you refer talented projects, it could be extremely
lucrative for you, right? So maybe you're not the one building because you're a computer science
student that doesn't like to code, um, which is common happens all the time. Um, then you could
make amazing, amazing content, maybe a music video, right? Really put yourself out there.
Um, show the people what you're made of and shill the hell out of that ref link shill the absolute hell out of that ref link i could i
could see a uh a build games build games build games oh video from yashton on on the way yeah
i think it will be like unique content for avex andVAX need like fucking attention. Our
chain need attention by doing
docs video or something.
And using the
Avalanche logo on the hoodie
and with the white blonde
model. It will be so amazing, guys.
Like I did before
and I can do it again and again.
I can't wait. I'm shaking in excitement
right now. I'm shaking. Thank you
so much, Yastin. It's always a pleasure.
Always a pleasure, brother.
Yeah, thank you, bro. Have a great day. You and
Wu. Thank you, brother.
Means the world. Alright, Crypto
Confident. What's going on,
guys? Hey, I just... Good to see you.
asked a few
questions that I put in the comments and
I want to do it verbally.
So it's a two-part question.
So I've been in
and out of spaces
in a bunch of communities on Avalanche
for a while now.
And these questions
came about from talking with specific
communities in the AVAX ecosystem.
So number one is, what is Avalanche's view, take, stance on existing projects,
communities who have been here for years, who feel like they're not getting the attention
and support they feel like they should be receiving?
How do we tie together the old class and the new class while aligning with
Avalanche's goals? Great question. Great question. And I love this. Um, so the, the, the, the first
off, first thing I want to ask is, so you haven't been receiving the attention that you think you
deserve. Um, the first thing anybody should ask in this situation is why, right? Um, is it, is it a
them problem or is it us problem? Should you look internally? And if you, and if you do look
internally and you find that, okay, um, I really think I've done everything that's in my power
to be successful. I've been extremely diligent in, uh, being reflective, uh, considering the
reflective, considering the market, considering everything of like, why haven't I been getting
market, considering everything of like, why haven't I been getting this attention? Right.
this attention? Right. And if you come to nothing, then it's an us problem that we haven't either
seen you, we've ignored you. We've, we've had some flawed systems in some, some way, shape or form.
And hopefully if the latter is the case, then build games is a perfect and rich 9,000 C chain
round. They're opinionless
programs um for the most part anybody can apply you can build whatever you want especially retro
9000 c chain round like you like there is like opinions do not matter with the fees generated
on chain like that that is just as truth as it can be right and then you will get some funding
there um of course with build, it will be a competition.
We're going to try and make it
as fair as possible
with judges from all around
different walks of life.
And that if you communicate
your vision well,
that is a great chance
for products that have been
on this chain for a long time
to finally get the attention
that they think they deserve.
Great question, though.
And thanks for answering that question
with some
valid answers, and I hope that people or some people in the communities that have been a part
of are listening to the space. I'm going to go on to the second question, which is, how does
Avalanche plan on connecting and staying in touch with valid, trustworthy communities and truly
listening and understanding to the concerns that they may have
i vo you want to take this and since you're the one that gets you out that all day
yeah i'll take this one i've got a lot of experience as director of janitorial services
here at avlabs um you know like a lot of the feedback is stuff we we do take into account
it's not hey we hear this feedback
and you know we send it to goon and it's immediately put into action but it you know
compounding feedback is is very helpful um you know there's a lot of feedback that we do take
into account i think a lot of it shows with these two programs these um you know the c-chain round
has a public and transparent leaderboard it's for for apps specifically on C-Chain or, you know, AVAX mainnet.
It's for past builders, existing builders, future builders.
And it's intended to, you know, run for a year, if not longer.
It's every month.
And it's for anyone, right?
Anyone on the chain that has users that are making transactions that are burning AVAX.
And this is rewarding the OG community, right?
Those are the apps that are going to eat the most off of this.
Of course, we want some new ones too as well.
But then if you look at Build Games, right?
Build Games is for any app builder.
It's in partnership with a bunch of different people and apps.
A lot of it we haven't even announced yet.
I know we're doing something with bands and Bears and Salmon.
And, you know, Giga from their team has been really close with Avery and I.
And they have a Bears den, I believe, tonight, actually.
But, yeah, you know, you can win funding through them.
You can win it through us.
I don't know.
I think dual funding is pretty cool.
But back to the community feedback piece.
If the community has feedback, like we're all ears, right? Avery and I are probably the most
in the community folks, most public folks at Avalabs, and we want to hear feedback.
Our only ask is like, hey, let's keep it constructive or just go all the way to the
other side of it and make it memes right um
memes are fun i think dano posted a meme video and like it was sent in our signal and everyone
was dying like it was funny right like we're all for talking shit just make it funny or constructive
one or the other um anywhere in between like it's useless like we're just going to ignore it um
and that's the biggest thing is like we want to we want to hear the feedback, whether it's DMs, whether it's posts, replies, spaces, calls, everything.
Obviously, anything private, like we can have a more in-depth conversation than on the timeline or on a space.
But whatever means of feedback and ideation and discussion you have and you're willing to do, like we're happy to take it into account.
And hopefully going forward, like we're doing more spaces. We're trying to be as transparent, as visible, as in the community
as we possibly can. So, yeah, I hope that answers the question. And hopefully you've seen some of
that in the last few weeks and few months. Yeah, thanks for answering that. And I have
been seeing it, but I've been in some spaces where they feel as if more people should be attending their spaces and being like a person on the ground or somebody on AVAX who would actually attend
the spaces with them and become part of the community and have that camaraderie, I would say.
But you answered the questions appropriately, and I appreciate that. So thank you.
Yeah, of course. I hear you. I think the other thing too is I'm on AVAX talk.
I know Lonzo's in here.
He hosts those every day.
I'm on there pretty frequently.
The recap from Tuesday definitely would go give it a listen.
Avery and I were up there yapping for like an hour or two,
answering every single question and definitely want to attend more.
I know a couple of the girls in AVAX have a stream.
I know Brandon and Jerry have theirs.
And yeah, if you guys have a space or a stream or something
and you want us to come on, message Avery or I.
We're usually down for it.
Perfect.
Yeah, just echoing it.
Our DMs are open.
I haven't received an invitation yet.
So feel free to DM us as well, Daniel and myself.
Also, Tom is also involved.
I mean, we are always happy to jump on a space and connect.
But again, I haven't received an invitation yet, personally.
So I'm a little bit waiting for that, I guess.
What the fuck's up with that, guys?
Why don't you invite Memo and Daniel in your spaces?
They're the moneybags, guys.
They are. You should not be bothering us.
I'll pass
the information along, and I hope some people
who have these concerns are listening to the space.
And I thank you guys
for the time.
We also want to have a good day, yes.
All right.
All right, good stuff.
All right, I'm going to pass this to double ABAMS right here.
What's up?
Yeah, I'm fine.
Jim, Jim.
Jim, everyone.
It's good to be on space.
And I'm ABAMS, and I'm speaking from Nigeria yeah thank
you for giving me the mic so I want to ask some some few questions so regarding this viewed game
actually this is my first time like see first time participating or want to
participate in this account scene although I'm not going to be the only one
because I'm just a front-end developer and oh what do I have a back-end
developer that we do work together but it's in a cutting together so my question is um
as a new developer like new to the avax chain do you is there any um guideline for for us to follow do you have everything provided or we we have to be the one to go, like maybe probably just build something. Then is it particularly about game or are you looking at other, you know,
infrastructures and some stuff like that?
Then I want to, another question is, can we also build a team?
Maybe probably if I have more teams that I can bring on board and we can build together.
Yeah, these are my questions.
All right.
So first question is, what can you build?
You can build whatever you want.
It just has to use Avalanche in a meaningful way, right?
So we want you to identify whatever you're passionate about,
whatever is your
domain of expertise and then build a project uh around that on avalanche using the chain in a
meaningful way and uh as far as uh teams go i think that was your second question um or like
who can participate um again it's open-ended because we want, we want to fight, like we want you guys to tell us
the best way that you are organized, right? We, we don't want to tell you the best way that you're
organized. So you can definitely put together a team, make sure your team has people of different
specialties, right? Make sure your co-founder is really good at something that is, would be a
weakness for you and make sure that, um, you know, it's well-rounded.
And again, like if you have two teams and you want to work together in some sort of way, that's totally allowed.
So great question. Great question, brother.
And then next up, we have Monks. What's up, brother?
What's up, everybody? I hope you guys are well.
I'm new into the space. I'm new into the Web3 and cryptocurrency space.
I'm still finding my feet.
That being said, my intention to the space is to be a Web3 fashion designer,
even though I have a degree into marketing and communication.
My question here for Avalanche is that, do you guys have programs for Web3 fashion designers
or maybe people who are actually trying to blend
or bridge the gap of retail and blockchain technology?
gap of retail and blockchain technology. Sure, I'll take this as well. Programs off the brain
for something that's like off-chain and purely culture, we find these programs to be extremely,
extremely difficult to design well just because
as we all know art is subjective right like my taste is different from brandon's taste which is
different from avax jesus's taste which is far far different from yashton's taste right and so
to be objective and fair about um incentives for uh more cultural uh programs it's just extremely difficult but um we would we would love for you to um
i mean i i guess the best the best if i were you like here's what i would do um knowing that there
might not be a perfect uh program for it uh is just get involved in the community um you know
we've sold so much merch on this chain there There have been iconic items that come from the community.
I mean, there's Cox done a bunch of merch throughout the years.
There's a famous steady hat.
Like there's so many different iconic pieces of clothing that have come from within the community completely organically that the founders have done pretty well on.
So if there's not a program, I would say, do not let that stop you, right? Like,
um, you know, ecosystems are so large and vast and complicated, um, that there's just should
never be an excuse of like, Oh, if there's not a program that it doesn't exist. Um, so, uh, I would
just say, get, get close to the Avalanche community, make a bunch of friends here. And, um, you can do
really, really, really well uh for yourself for your
fashion program completely outside of uh there being any quote-unquote program
all right okay thank you
all right any other questions you can probably do two more questions before we wrap up
hey guys can you guys hear me what What's up, Avax Jesus?
Hey, what's going on?
Good to see you, brother.
Good to see you, too.
Hey, so I had a question, right?
I wanted to first confirm, like, with the retro,
that the ceiling, it sounds like what you would receive
would be max, like, what you burn.
Is that right?
Correct.
All right.
So you cannot earn more than you burn.
Okay.
Yes.
So I guess, like, how do we attract, like, quality builders, I guess,
because I think organically, like, the ceiling is probably pretty low then, right?
So how do we also incentivize people to come and use the chain and drive these
apps out sorry can you repeat the question one more time so i'm saying like i think if if you're
going based off the amount of avex that's burnt per app right then Then I think right now, if you look at the market, et cetera,
like that ceiling is probably pretty low based on activity on chain.
So how do you incentivize users to come out and try out the stuff that's
being built at the same time?
Because if you find yourself in a situation where like people come here and
build and they don't get really rewarded for it,
then it doesn't really translate to like a positive user story, right?
So that's why we have the ice and fire combo,
what we are trying to funnel first,
build people coming and building.
Again, the C-Chain round is more for matured projects.
So like they ideally have some traction already.
So to your question, how do we attract?
The job of attraction is really on the builder's game.
That's why we have combined it.
That's why it is a specific funneling
from the build games to C-Chain.
So attracting new builders will be through build games.
That's why we're working so closely.
And then keeping them on the chain
is really then through the C-Chain.
Again, it's not going to be a one-time thing.
We have at least until the end of the year.
And then it's going to continue.
All right, got it.
But, like, how do we market to get new users
to come to AVAX C-Chain and try out these apps, right?
I guess that's something that we need to figure out.
I think the best way, and Avery and I have had a lot of these discussions,
just one-on-one, is how do we get users?
How do we get apps?
And it's not like, you know, it sounds like a chicken and the egg, right? It's like, get the apps, get the users, get the users, the apps will come.
But it's actually both, just in small increments, right?
Like, we have a cool app.
Okay, we get a cool set of new users coming.
We get 10 apps.
Okay, we get 10x the users.
And I think Build Games is really the kickoff to all of that, right? It's like, all right, all these builders are coming in. They're building some cool apps. Okay. We get 10 X the users. Um, and I think build games is really the kickoff to all of that.
Right. It's like, all right, all these builders are coming in, they're building some cool apps.
Some of them are going to be breakout apps. Some of them are going to suck. Some of them are going
to fail. Some of them are going to do nothing. Right. But there are going to be some really
good ones. And that's kind of what we want to proliferate. And those really good ones are
going to get eyes from our community. Um, people that have gone quiet on, on our community, in our community, people that are in Solana, people that are our community, people that have gone quiet on our community,
in our community, people that are in Solana, people that are in BASE, people that are,
you know, even on the TradFi and, you know, non-CT side. Sorry, excuse me. But I think there's,
you know, it's a good question, right? And it's a question nobody knows the answer to
in any ecosystem, in any role, right? It's like, all right, we can do all these cool things,
but will users care? Will users use these products? Will users come to the chain? Will
they do X, Y, and Z? It's like always a bit of a gamble, right? We can predict user behavior.
We can predict outcomes, but at the end of the day, we don't really know. All we can do is say,
hey, like we have these programs And there are other ones, right?
There's Codebase, there's InfraBuild,
there's so many other ones.
There's also individual grants on a case-by-case basis.
So if there is a cool app in Build Games,
the ideal outcome is they build something cool,
users start to use it, they like it,
it starts generating a lot of transactions and with that gas burned and with that AVAX burned.
So hopefully they'll make a nice bag in the C-chain round.
So it's just about less so marketing like for app builders and more so programs that incentivize cool ideas to be built and apps to be built and existing apps to be iterated on.
I'd love to see something like Juicy or the Arena or Grotto
apply for this. And over the six weeks of
building, they iterate and do something really cool
that they maybe never even thought of
that creates
an influx of users. But unfortunately
it's not a, hey, this is exactly what we're doing.
It's going to bring an X amount of users. This is
what we're going to do. It's more
so like we need to experiment.
I think we've been pretty
afraid of experimentation and risk over the years. And our new direction is we want to support
builders, period. No matter how big they are, how small they are, how far along they are,
we want to support builders that can get to a sustainable and revenue positive, cash flow
positive application. And with that, there's going to be a lot of L's,
a lot of failures,
and that's how businesses and how these programs go.
But if there's a few winners
and a few really good people and really good founders
that make these amazing breakout apps,
I think it'll all be worth it.
And with the cool apps comes the users.
And I think that's the way we need to think of it.
We already have almost 500 applications
and I have flooded DMs from people that have never owned an avax token have never tried an app on the chain
that want to build because they think the program's cool and it's it's truly not even about you know
the few thousand dollars they'll probably get it's they want to make an app they want to be
supported and i think avalanche is the best chain to be supported if you're building something cool.
Awesome.
That's a good answer.
Absolutely cooked it.
Amazing answer.
I'm going to add one small thing, and then we can take another question.
I think the mistake that we've made in the past is we thought we could skip steps.
It's like we saw the result of what other ecosystems had,
whether that be high volume, high TVL, whatever. And then we would gain user incentives to that,
right? We would just skip over the steps and go straight to five, right? We would miss,
you know, the incubate small builders, get a little bit of apps, right? Incremental growth,
right? Community building.
And then that would eventually get to the part where you actually see metrics.
And we've just jumped over, went straight to metrics.
And we've skipped step one through three, which is why I think things haven't been as perfect as we'd like.
So exactly what Vo said.
And we're really excited to see how this takes off.
All right.
Thanks.
All right. One more. One more. Who wants to see how this takes off. All right. Thanks. All right.
One more.
One more.
Who wants to say the last question?
GM, I'll ask a question.
GM, GM, how's it going?
It's going well.
I hope you're having a great day.
I think some other people in the audience might also be curious or have a similar question.
So be curious or have a similar question.
I might have asked this in the future.
I might have asked this in the future.
But essentially when you are applying or submitting a proposal to the Builder Program,
everyone I know has lots of great ideas.
But what happens if they are not very technical or a developer?
Like say gets approved and this individual has funding to build this really cool idea.
and this individual has funding to build this really cool idea,
how are people going to be connected to, say, developers
or other builders for backend to integrate these types of ideas?
There's actually, it's also a really good question
because as someone like myself that's not technical,
that's always been the question.
If I have an idea, I'm like, all right, where do I start?
Where do I find a dev?
Our community has some of the best devs in crypto.
Like, I truly, truly believe that.
Even Tactical Retreat and his 10 million bot army and 10 million wallet army.
But there's a few resources.
Like, if you have an idea, we can always find devs.
Honestly, if you tweet it out, you'll find devs.
There's a few, I don't want to call them dev shops because it's kind of like an iffy word, but studios that support builders such as Polypops, Polylabs.
He is building like four different apps right now.
He's doing it completely for free and like his team is doing it for free because they want to see cool apps in the ecosystem.
So time if you have an idea if someone has an idea and you know has that either marketing or founder creative mindset and background and really wants to take something forward I'm absolutely happy to connect you.
I get DMs all the time, and I'm sure there's a few in the replies and a few people listening to this that would love to code something and build something with someone that's the ideas and the marketing and the creative and the founder brain of the duo or of the team.
So really good question, and I think our community of builders and devs is very eager to jump on any cool idea.
Totally, and I also pinned the Telegram group. jump on any cool idea. Totally.
And I also pinned the Telegram group.
If you want to go in there, introduce yourself.
And then there also might be a great place to build your team,
see if there's someone who's developed,
who's more on the invention side, more of the engineering side,
and you're more on the idea side.
There might be some synergy in there already in the group
if you want to join that. And that goes for everybody listening right now check out that
telegram link all right um i think i think that just about wraps us up i wish we could
get to everybody here um although the space is rugged and we will not go over why that happened. Um, you know, I'm glad we, uh, we got
back to it and, uh, got to, uh, really talk to you all, feel your questions, which were all fantastic.
Get yashed up. It's always a pleasure. Always an absolute pleasure to get yashed up. And again,
all our DMS are open. Um, anytime you want, uh, we get bazillion DMs a day, but we will do our best at all times
to make sure that we get to answer them. So I love you all and let's get to building. Bye-bye.
