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AVAX SZN 🔺
Recorded: Sept. 5, 2025 Duration: 1:53:09Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. hello hello hello hello good morning good good night, wherever you are.
Today we are talking about the Avalanche blockchain.
And yeah, really a staked lineup, you know, just waiting a few minutes.
The rules of those spaces are pretty simple.
Just be respectful.
If you want to talk, feel free to raise your hand or just unmute yourself.
And today we have as our co-host, Coop.
How is it going, Coop?
It's going great.
First time.
Yeah, it's Friday.
A lot going on, as always.
Excited to chat with some other people who I don't get to talk to every day about what's going on in Avalanche.
Yeah, it's actually our first basis together.
I'm pretty excited about it,
and I hope we'll keep doing them every week.
And, yeah, Ashley here as well.
How's it going, Ashley?
It's been a long time.
Hey, yeah, it really has been.
I'm great.
I'm just, you know, just living the dream,
watching all our tokens go up and down.
I am waiting, though.
I was promised today that Coop would be singing soft jazz to intro the space.
So I'm pretty disappointed that that's not what I'm hearing.
Oh, man.
All right, I'll look into it.
Hey, Coop, you don you know how to sing jazz?
Actually, jazz is my favorite type of music.
Oh, really?
All right, you do it.
Hell no!
But moving forward, Menas, how's it going today?
Menas.
What's up?
What's up, my man? How are you feeling today? How are you feeling about this incredible AVAX talk spaces?
Oh, dude, I'm stoked for this.
When you hit me up, I was like, okay, I'll join the space.
A lot of cool people in here, but it's my first time doing space with you.
So I'm very excited, man.
Yeah, I'm really excited as well you know there is quite many new faces
and I hope you won't be disappointed after this session but EcoBeast the legend the myth today
on our spaces uh the man that have been tweeting about Avonj for a long time already how are you
feeling my man? Hey glad to be here thanks for having me up and I think we'll have a good time
talking about all the stuff going on.
Yeah, for sure. And we have a lot of interesting news actually for the past month with Avalanche.
The DBD team is killing it. Toyota is launching blockchain, which is crazy.
But Benjamin, actually you're building it predictably.
And as far as I know, you've joined Avalanche quite recently, like started building an Avalanche. How are you feeling today, my man?
Hey, yeah, very good.
Yeah, I went to Summit in London on a whim.
Someone said to me, like, are you going to the Summit?
And I said, when is it?
And they were like, it's tomorrow.
So I booked a ticket and I went.
And I've been building predictably and I wanted to find
a home for it and I bumped into Amy from uh Ava Labs like on the walk from the train to the summit
and I was like one conversation with her and I was like okay I can go home now like I've done
everything I need to do it's yeah the the Avax community has been insane. So good. So welcoming.
I love it.
And can't wait to chat some more today about what I'm building and what everyone else is doing and what's going on in the ecosystem.
Love it.
Thank you very much for inviting me.
I saw that post about Amy.
That's great to hear.
People are really important.
100% man.
Like the most important thing.
Like spoke to a number of people, spoke to a number of chains, spoke to some real douchebags and then spoke to Amy.
And I spoke to Amy and Ashley. And yeah, she was just like, oh, that sounds interesting. Tell me a bit more about it.
And within 30 seconds, she was like, OK, you should build this on avalanche i'm gonna add you now here's a group there's some people i'm gonna bring in come talk to me in a
minute and i was like oh my god bing bang and i was like okay this is where i'll build it was great
so yeah looking forward to this yeah looking forward to it as well and we have you know quite
a big uh figure on avalanche today as well jason we've done uh many interviews with, you know, quite a big figure on our launch today as well, Jason. We've done many interviews with you.
You know, you have an awesome social platform, you know, like Twitter,
but on-chain.
How are you doing today?
Doing good, brother.
Thanks for having me.
Pleasure to be here.
Coop, Vo, the new Vo effect.
So happy to dive in and all the other speakers up here.
Yes, sir.
And we have CG from BlazeStream as well, from Selvor.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good, man.
It's been, like Koop was saying, it's been a fun Friday.
A little craziness.
I'm also, as I think many here know, I'm a Philly fan,
so I'm riding high from last night's game, too.
So it's a great start to this season.
Excited that football's back.
Pissed that red zone's gone.
But otherwise, I'm good, brother.
I'm excited to be here.
What was your betting platform of choice if you had one for the Philly game?
Everything, man.
Way too many.
I actually took Cowboys at like eight and a half a lot.
You know, I had a feeling I'd be a little bit closer.
But, yeah, I smashed a lot.
My favorite, my best bet was probably I took Jalen Hurts two rushing and Barkley one.
And it was like a $10 bet that netted
a good amount. It was like plus
one something,
so that was a nice one, but I hit everything I could
on the Eagles.
Cockbook, shout out Cockbook
2. I flacked on
Benjamin's. I know I need to sign up,
but I started drinking a little bit too early
yesterday, so I didn't get that
one in time, but yeah, I was hammering eagles on everything.
Yeah, I signed up for Predictively, I think, when Benjamin reached out, like, two days ago.
I think the first bet I'm taking is Ashley winning.
No, no, sorry, not Ashley.
Broker, Lon Broker winning that fight.
God damn it.
Nemesis.
Sorry.
Remind me of my failure.
And Voh, Voh, you're here today with us.
You know, you've joined Aon just recently.
And, you know, I want to actually know your first impression.
How is the community treating you?
Have you got to, you know, try out the products from Aonara already?
Yeah, I appreciate you hosting this space and inviting me up here.
I yeah, the community has been really welcoming.
I've actually I think looked the other day to see my first tweet about
your backs was and it was in 2023 about some games on a back.
So I've been a longtime supporter bag holder all of that.
But yeah, diving more into the community, getting deeper.
I'm in a few chats, But yeah, everyone's amazing.
And it's really cool to see the team from the inside versus just the outside.
And hopefully we can, you know, build in public a little bit more than we have in the past and really, you know, show you guys what we're working on.
Yeah, maybe some alpha.
We just had a really, really cool call about the next summit for next year.
And it's going to be really fucking cool.
We have a lot of big partners coming in, a lot of household names that all of you guys know.
Some have been announced, some haven't yet.
So it's going to be fun, interactive, and it's hopefully going to be our biggest summit yet.
Yeah, really bullish and excited for the future of Avalanche.
And, you know, I think this bull is actually different.
I think, you know, institutions, they play a really big role in the current bull.
And Avalanche is obviously leading this place, you know, this spot of onboarding the new institutions on chain.
And Avery, Avery, are you driving right now?
Are you here with us?
No, I made it.
I made it.
Drive is finished.
Drive is finished.
I'm at a desk at Airbnb now.
Much better.
Much better view to talk to all the beautiful people in this audience about, you know,
the beautiful technology and innovation that is the Avalanche blockchain.
What was that?
Avalanche?
No, it's not going to stick.
You got to stop saying Avalanche.
Sorry. Avalanche. Okay. It's really great to stick. You got to stop saying Google Launch. Sorry.
Okay, it's really great to have you here today.
And, you know, last two introductions, Pythonomics, you know, the founder of NoChileo, one of the biggest communities on AVAX.
How are you doing, man?
I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me.
Really excited to be on stage here with a bunch of legends and, know be able to chat a bit about AVEX today let's go
and the last introduction and we are moving to our first topic Brandon you
know the host of one of the most popular shows on our arena platform how are you
doing I'm doing good just smashed a full sugar monster obviously I would never drink sugar free
and just enjoying being here enjoying getting hung on with everybody actually out in Seattle
right now lucky enough to hang at my buddy's house with a nice view of the ocean right here
so all the right vibes going into this space today yes Yes, sir, only great vibes. And you know, starting out these
spaces, again, the rules of those spaces are simple. Be respectful. If you want to talk,
feel free to unmute yourself or raise your hand. And don't hear your project too much,
you know, because we have 10 speakers. So we want to talk about every topic about AVAX.
And you know, starting out, you know, a lot of the institutions have been lately coming to
blockchain. They're launching their
own L1s and
Avalanche is the best place to do it.
And some of the examples
is Japan's institutions,
big banks, they're launching their own
L1s as well with AVAX.
And, you know, Coop,
I'm really curious, how
is your team able to do it?
How are you guys able to attract such big names to AVAX?
Yeah, our VD team, yeah, I'm not going to say they are not on drugs, but yeah, it definitely feels like it.
Yeah, I don't even know how they get into some of the conversations they get into, but yeah, it's insane to watch.
I mean, coming from Magic Eden where, you know, we had some really big partners like Ubisoft and Lionsgate and, you know, the AVAX partners make those look small.
So it's, yeah, it's actually insane.
And I think that's one of AVAX's biggest strengths.
And, you know, our team really sells the vision of like, you know, value accrual and L1s and, you know, the supply is capped and AVAX gas fees are burned and all that.
Right. So I think people really understand it.
And it's a much different ecosystem than all other L1s where, you know, subnets are new branding for them.
for them. L1s don't operate like an ecosystem. Each of them is specialized for something,
L1s don't operate like an ecosystem.
whether it's a game, a casino, you know, whatever it may be. Like, they're completely different than,
you know, an L2 on Ethereum or an L2 on a different chain. So I think they really like
that as well. And it takes a lot of pressure off of, you know, trying to find a ton of native apps
to build on an L2 versus, you know, just have your one thing and all the apps stay on C chain.
Yeah, Japan loves that too because it's, you know, they want to be regulatory compliant.
And so having your own chain is like a big factor in that.
They can customize it.
They can make it, you know, crypto people don't like to hear this, but, you know, they can make it KYC if they have to.
They can control the validators if they have to.
These are things that matter to big, older enterprises that want to be compliant with everything.
So that's a big factor.
But then the other one, like, Vo touched on it, but the BD that happens regionally is really interesting to me.
Because, of course, we have some general bd
that they work within the crypto ecosystem maybe they work in america and europe but the regions
stand out to me that like you absolutely have to have somebody in japan who is a native who
has connections has a network and so the people that lead korea japan vietnam are crucial and
like roy has been roy's the head of japan he's been here for years and has built up that network
and so like the toyota thing he was explaining that he's been talking to the people at the
toyota blockchain labs for for years they're friends. And so that relationship now
comes into play when they're actually interested in doing something. And so Roy was able to help
them actually co-write this report. So relationships, having somebody who's deeply ingrained in the area,
really important. I think the other side of that too is they see the huge value out of
I think the other side of that too is they see the huge value out of, you know, AVEX not being the degenerate chain or the CT native chain and more institution and, you know, serious builders and Web2 are kind of coming in and choosing AVEX, which is cool to see.
You know, especially as like a Salon native where it's memes and NFTs and all of that.
and NFTs and all of that.
It's like a full 180 for me to experience, which is really cool, honestly.
which is really cool, honestly.
And then the other side of it too is
going off of what Coop said
with the global and regional communities
and leads that we have,
we actually have the largest
community-run organization, I would say,
in all of crypto.
There's, I think, maybe 700 members
in AVAX Team 1.
It's undergoing, I hope the lead
of it doesn't kill me for saying this, but it's undergoing a huge pivot right now. Not pivot, but
more funding, more programs, more people, more countries, more regions, more cities,
better branding, all of that. So if you guys are in the community, if you're listening,
if you want to even touch AVAX or just crypto, it's honestly not even fully about AVAX.
It's just community focused and crypto focused.
There's colleges and education and hacker houses and panels and a ton of different stuff.
Multiple IRL events per month in each country.
I know India and Africa have huge, huge communities.
And there's been, I think, five to ten events in each of those areas per month in recent times.
So I'm definitely encouraged checking out.
I think their Twitter is Avax Team One.
It's free to join.
It's application based.
I feel like I'm showing them right now, but it is really cool to see just like, you know, I want one in my city so I can go meet up with a bunch of crypto people every week.
Me too.
And I think that's how we got Hava, right?
You're from Team One.
You've been in there for a little while, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I basically joined Team One, I think, half a year ago.
And they actually, you know, they suggested me to host an event in Bratislava as well, Slovakia.
So, you know, soon we'll be having a game night in
one of the, you know, internet cafes. So, if you want, probably at the end of September, feel free
to pull up and we'll pay for everything as well for you to play with us. And, you know, I think
I want to touch one really important topic, you know, Coop, obviously the AVAX team is here.
I want to touch one really important topic.
You know, Coop, obviously the AVAX team is here.
No, obviously, Wyoming State, right?
They're launching their own stablecoin with AVAX.
And I've seen some rumors around quite recently.
And I wanted to hear your take as well.
Basically, I think it was Wealth Insider or someone posting that they chose Hedera to launch a stablecoin.
And I'm really curious if it's actually fake news or not, but we'll have to hear from you.
Wait, which company?
So Warming State, it was written that they chose Hedera, HBAR, to launch a stablecoin.
And where was insider?
I think the ones that posted about it.
Oh, yeah, I just saw that.
Yeah, so the Wyoming stablecoin, which is a U.S. state, if you guys don't know, but
yeah, they're doing a stablecoin.
It's on AVAX and a few other chains.
I think maybe today they announced HBAR would also be supported as like an, you know, additional
chain or something.
Yeah, there was like an original cohort of avax and a
couple others this has been like a very confusing um launch i think for a lot of people because
everyone's like trying to claim it um even before it launched they're like i remember say did a big
push around like being the top rated newly added chain to the list. And the reality is it's a
multi-chain stablecoin initiative. So it's on a bunch of chains. Avalanche was just one of the
first, and it's also going to be the first where it's actually usable, I believe. So like it
launched, but it's not really being used at this point. And there's an app on Avalanche
that has one of the first use cases to implement, but it's multi-chain.
Yeah. What Coop said is all pretty accurate. It's going to be multi-chain, layer zero.
We love it. We're very close with all of the team that is launching the Wyoming Stablecoin, as well as the people in the
government who are backing it and are really excited about it.
And we've done a lot with the ecosystem, such as XCOVA has built kind of like white-labeled
payments app that will be run using the Wyoming Stablecoin.
We're really excited about that, as well as our privacy solution.
EERCs from AvaCloud.
Privacy, it's not like a cool, sexy, world-changing thing, but in crypto, it could really bring
in billions and billions and billions of dollars if you can have privacy-enabled public blockchains.
This is something that we're super early on,
which is also why Wyoming is super interested
to launch more of their sophisticated,
let's just say programs around the stable coin on us
is do this very interesting privacy piece.
And the Wyoming thing is like,
I think it makes a lot of sense for Avalanche.
And we obviously have a lot of potential for governments in general to use Avalanche because of that, the ability to launch an L1 and customize it.
And of course, the government's going to require a bunch of special things for their on-chain needs.
And so it's more like this is kind of foundational, they're leading the charge,
we want to be a part of that. And then, you know, as other people in the government look at that
program, hopefully our hope is to, you know, be one of the leaders of the program and ultimately
get those other government officials to like do whatever they're thinking about on chain with
Avalanche. Gotcha. And now I want to talk a little bit about the institutions.
You know, I've talked to a lot of different VCs and syndicates as well,
and they all have different opinions on the current bull run.
You know, some of them think that the institutions,
they would come to Web3, they would tokenize their assets,
but it would not directly, you know, their
crypto won't get any advantages of it because those assets are just on chain, but it doesn't
mean that they're going basically to be buying any crypto outside of it.
So, you know, Ecobee is you basically being, you know, posting about Avonj for a long time
already, and you have quite extensive experience as well in trading and all the other stuff.
What do you specifically think about the institutions coming on chain?
And this question is open to everyone here as well.
Feel free to raise your hands or unmute yourself too.
Let's give this to somebody not Avalab.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Who else has an opinion on this?
I see a bunch of DGens on our stage.
You guys know anything about institutions?
I feel like ICO or Jason probably may have some opinions.
Can you slim down the question just so I can speak more directly?
Yeah, basically, what do you think?
How does crypto...
The institutions are coming on chain, right?
How does it specifically advantage crypto?
You know, are they going to be buying our crypto tokens?
You know, will the price go up? All those kind of things.
Yeah, I mean, I think that it would be somewhat foolish for us to assume that the institutions are going to come and buy
like our our fart coin or our chill house or like pick pick your favorite avalanche ip meme coin or
like that doesn't seem quite as likely to me but what you do expect to see when you get right like
more regulated markets and you get regulatory clarity and safeguards institutional investors
coming on on chain you'll see them
absolutely supporting stable coins because those are not really volatile as long as they're
backed correctly.
So that's a good place for the real part of money and take advantage of more liquid
yields, but also just holding some of the larger tokens.
So like digital asset treasury companies are actually a pretty big deal in that they're holding substantial quantities of things like Bitcoin, Ether, Sol, AVAX.
Like these are all things that add to the demand side.
And that's like if you think about how all the things we trade on chain are, they're all paired to these like primary coins. And so having more demand
side for the base token, like whatever the baseline pair token is, is going to end up driving up
the pair valuation. And so I think there's also like a psychology element of it too. Like
there's consumers feel safer trading with things if they know that there's institutional players,
like larger players who come in. But in addition if if there is enough demand side it pushes prices up and people feel richer
on paper when the underlying asset they've been holding goes up they're more willing to to sling
money around so you get to see more and more volume on chain so there's like weird like second
and third order effects that happen um because of this this enhanced like embrace of crypto by
the students but the only way they
actually do end up coming on chain is because they feel like the safeguards the regulatory
pathways are there so ultimately it's a good thing okay fair enough cg right over to or koop go ahead
if you want to talk first no he's got it yeah i was just gonna add it's funny because right like
from early days it's like the institutions are coming, the institutions are coming.
Well, we also just flew right by it.
We have institutional money.
We have governmental money.
So there's unprecedented involvement that we're seeing in such a short period of time.
And everything, it takes some time to play out. But, you know, one of the main things I think crypto, like even like adoption,
it's not going to be necessarily like a meme token or the NFTs, right? Like, you know,
unfortunately, that really separates us. It's the underlying tech. And I think that's, you know,
really, really where Avalanche shines. Like, I know we definitely have switched to like adoption,
right? Like, but before adoption for Avalanche, it was known as the builder's chain.
And it's because of like the underlying tech.
And I think, you know, that's really what separates and what these institution or even
governmental agencies will be looking for when they look to enter this ecosystem is
that technology, the transparency, the speed, everything that Avalanche excels at.
So I was just, you know, adding that too, because I think they're, the speed, everything that Avalanche excels at. So I was just, you know,
adding that too, because I think there, you know, sometimes we get distracted in our crypto Twitter
bubble of, you know, of certain things and step away from the underlying tech, which I think is
really, you know, what, what on a scale that they'll come and look at. I don't, I don't think
it should be underestimated also. Oh, sorry, sorry Coop I see you had your hand up I'll
just go really quick no you go I don't think it can be underestimated how important it is actually
the point that Coop made top of the show about uh how important people being able to like uh
gauge their own level of decentralization or you know like if you're an institution you're coming in and you
want to create your own l1 and this is what um uh when i was at the summit i listened to the keynote
by um i mean um the founder ceo of avax and he was talking about the fact that there isn't a there
isn't a chain that fits every institution or business or platform or whatever projects requirements.
And so the ability to be able to create your own L1 and, you know, pull all of the levers
and all of the knobs and buttons, et cetera, to kind of like really curate your own chain
experience is hugely beneficial to an institution.
And I think that is what we need to be mindful when people talk about institutions coming
into the space.
I don't think they're coming in to kind of like to, you know, play with Farccoin.
I think they're coming in to set something up that absolutely suits their intentions.
And that's where AVAX is perfectly placed.
And shout out Santi, because that was a heck of a keynote.
And if you haven't caught that, definitely, I'm sure it's recorded somewhere.
And listen to it, because, you know, I love the guy.
He's an OG in the space.
And, I mean, he touched it.
You onboard one of those, and it's more from, you know,
a volume monetary standpoint than any chain like currently
has right so you know all you got to do is just hit one but yeah that was an awesome start to
summit for sure. Tansu's great he's a great speaker he's got a cool vision um there's a couple two
things I wanted to say is one I we were talking about RWAs and how that's a big institutional topic.
And our head of, I think, on-chain finance said something that I thought just kind of nailed it.
If you're looking at this as like, do I invest in these kinds of things?
She said, if nobody wants to trade it off-chain, nobody is going to want to trade it on-chain.
So when you're thinking about institutions coming on-chain,
and they say they're tokenizing something and putting it there,
that doesn't mean it's going to be something everyone's going to want to buy.
So keep that in mind if you're just exploring this area.
One final point on that really quickly.
Vo, any movement on Doritos as an institution coming in?
Because I saw you shoot your shot yesterday.
Yeah, actually, nothing official, but one of my friends reached out,
and she's actually good friends with the person who runs the Doritos socials.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
Yeah, now a little bit. Oh, Ashley, I see your hands right over here. So we'll see. We'll see.
Yeah, now a little bit.
Oh, Ashley, I see your hands right over here.
Yeah, I actually was thinking, too, what about Avax for McDonald's? You know, like that would be literally perfect.
Imagine little triangles served with every kid's meal,
maybe triangle red burgers.
I think that would be fantastic.
I think a lot of our community is actually employed by that great institution.
We have an N.
It might be a great fit.
Just put the fries in the bag.
The McDonald's to AVAX flywheel is strong.
I'll just say that.
Might be something we got to move on quick.
Yeah, I mean, we've heard we need the AVAX devs BDs to work on those partnerships.
So I'm looking forward, you know, to the new Happy Meal.
But, you know, a little bit of a DGN question.
Menez, you know, you're like more a DGN guy.
I wonder how you got attracted to AVAX, you know you're like more a Dijon guy, I wonder how you got
attracted to AVAX, you know, what you're most interested in on our shape? Well honestly what
brought me to AVAX is the great community, it might seem funny to you but it was actually a lot
of people I met in Miami, Paris, actually in Paris in 2024 I met a couple people. I met Buwitz, I met some other
people from the community. And then during Art Basel last year, I went and hung out with a lot
of people from AVAX. And I just love the community in general. So it brought me to the DGEN side of
AVAX. And then I started exploring more apps that you guys have and
more partnerships. But it initially started from just meeting a bunch of people and loving
the meme coin side of it.
Gotcha. Yeah, I remember the run of meme coins. You know, there are still really great meme
coins in Avalanche, but, you know, I'm most excited about the builders personally.
And, you know, Jason, you actually have been building
for quite a long time on Avalanche.
And before, you was on Solana, if I'm not mistaken, right?
And I guess, you know, what led you to take this decision
to start building on Avalanche,
and how are different the vibes from Solana compared to Avalanche?
Yeah, so, you know, I had always used Avalanche
even back in the Avalanche Rush days,
2021 classic days of last cycle.
It's an incredible chain overall.
Obviously what brought me here was, you know,
the whole Stars Arena saga as an official builder.
But I think definitely different vibes than solana but very
special in its own way it's a very close-knit like core community here whereas solana's a lot
of people just kind of doing their own thing and um you know it's really strong from the top down
here so you guys have been mentioning institutional level deals token tokenization, RWAs, but that also, you know,
bleeds down into the retail side. And the goal of Arena is to be that hub that really kind of
brings this all together on chain. So yeah, overall, like incredible builders,
some of the best builders, honestly, very under the radar, like the devs in the Avalanche ecosystem
are incredible uh great community
obviously you know has their highs and lows with sentiment but uh it's great community and
i think the access to avalabs and avalanche foundation and um the uh backbone behind this
chain is is very strong so i'm extremely bullish on uh the future here same here and ashley i remember you
were on the in the solana trenches as well so later on you moved to avalanche too uh what about
you how's your journey so far i was actually going to comment um on that because like i just noticed
whenever i was first getting into AVAX compared to other
chains you know there's no there's nothing wrong with other chains I like other chains but
AVAX truly stood out to me because I felt like I had access to like everybody on like not only
the core team of AVAX but so many builders that are here. You know, Jason, you know, has gone to all these events.
He makes himself very active in the community.
And then himself sat down with a ton of creators at the summit and had personal conversation
with us, asked our names, shook our hands, took pictures.
You know, like, it is so cool that, you know, even with Coop, everybody loves his face so much.
They make memes out of his face, and it's perfect.
It's a beautiful, beautiful face.
So it just feels like the team is truly a part of the community, and that's what really attracted me at first to AVAX.
My first intro to AVAX was, you know, meeting a few people.
They gave me a little bit of merch and I had a little fun with that. And then I, of course,
made that very interesting video that people absolutely loved that I have no shame from at all.
And it just was so much fun. I've had so much fun on AVAX compared
to almost every chain I've ever been on.
That's what I truly love about it is that it feels fresh,
it feels fun, and nobody thinks they're better than everyone else.
That's what makes AVAX so unique.
Honestly, I love to see that Tim was not
shitting on other bookchains and they're
actually in the trenches talking to the community.
It's really easy to reach them and to talk about some of the stuff happening here
and so what i have noticed is that avalanche you know one of the few chains where people actually
talk about what's happening in the ecosystem without being directly incentivized obviously
we have avox team one that is supporting you supporting all the people contributing to the ecosystem, to the blockchain.
But I feel like people actually love being here.
And one of the things that I got really excited about lately is that Toyota is actually building a blockchain with Avax.
And Aubrey, do you have something to share about it?
I was just going to mention, I know Ashley said that we're welcome we don't talk i just want to say behind closed doors we
talk loads of in fact um and uh especially about ashley's dildo nose that's right that's right i
will never live that down not that not me though not me. I'm a huge fan.
And Bullish Blub.
I heard institutions are actually not buying fart corn, they're buying Blub. That's what I heard.
I got the best
Blub t-shirt at Summit.
Literally my favorite t-shirt
I own. I got the best
condom from
the Blub team.
Ashley, did you use it?
Bo! It's been a while too, dude. The blood team. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ashley, did you use it? Vo!
You know, it's been a while, so no.
Just maybe one day.
That's one strike against Vo for the week.
All right.
New hire.
Early, she gets a pass.
But that's, you know, one strike.
One strike.
We get three strikes a week, right?
Okay.
Duke gets three, Jay.
So one thing that that made me think of is when Osiris, we had gold coins from the foundation.
That was really sick.
And I want some more coins.
So though, Avery, you know, make that happen for the next one.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Toyota.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got it.
No, you got it.
Okay. So here's what I will say about Toyota, right?
That one's super exciting, huge brand name, but I want to clear it up up front.
This was just a research paper, right?
So I know there's a bunch of talk about, you know, Toyota is launching a blockchain.
Right now, it's just a plan to launch a blockchain. So I don't want to give us too,
too much credit. But in context of that, Toyota is known to when they do these research papers.
And if you look at it, it's not like they gave it to an intern and they just scribbled some stuff
and was like, yay, this could be cool, bullish stuff. It's extremely in-depth and extremely scientific and really well thought out.
And typically in the past when Toyota does this, it does a lot of the times end up into production.
And that would be super awesome using avalanche subnets in Japan, which is what was like the third largest economy in the world um i think that
would be uh top five third may not be right but top five economy i think would be would be very
very amazing and very cool but uh i do want to say hold our horses a little bit on it
i think it's just like a great around and find out that yes it's just a great fit like they the the way they see tokenizing these things is
like the perfect match for am lynch because they can build l1s to communicate together
that was almost a strike though i just want to not go with that slide almost a strike
no dude that wasn't a strike it's just like no curse We do that. No, we do. We do curse. It's okay.
Okay, I'm actually curious, like, how is it for those companies to launch an L1 with Avax?
Like, what's the process?
Obviously, I know there are negotiations behind it, but when it comes to the tech specifically,
like, do they need to pay a big amount of money?
How much time does it take?
And all of this kind of stuff.
So there's a lot of options.
But for somebody like Toyota, usually, and the same with like MapleStory and Nexon,
because Ava Labs is building Ava Cloud that helps people launch their own chain. There's a couple of ways you can use Ava Cloud,
but the whole purpose of it is that you can come to us and we will essentially launch the chain for you and set it up for you.
Most of the big enterprises typically talk to the AvaCloud team really extensively.
And at the end of the day, they might just launch on their own because they can.
But AvaCloud is there to kind of like hold hands and make sure that you get what you need in that customization stage.
In terms of cost, the new method, which is not even that, it's not super new anymore.
What has it been like six months since Avalanche 9000?
But it changed the cost structure.
So it used to be that you would buy a bunch of Avalanche AVAX and you would have to stake it.
And you'd have to validate the primary network, which is the C-chain, and your own new chain.
And we changed that to be a pay-as-you-go model. So it's like 1.3 AVAX a month per validator on the chain. 1.33. Yeah. So that pay-as-you-go model, I think,
makes a ton of sense, especially for startups. if you're relatively young and trying to find product market fit, buying a bunch of AVAX and staking it is a big ask.
But when you can just pay as you go to spin up this chain, you can determine like, are you going to have a ton of validators?
Do you want, you know, do you want it to be permissionless?
Or do you want to start with your own small little validator set and you just pay a couple of AVAX per month to have them up and running?
So it's really became a lot more affordable,
and we hope that that means startups can take it more seriously.
Yeah, it's really great to hear.
I think it's the best option currently, not so much competition.
Are you competing with anyone?
For example, companies would want to launch their L1 with other chains.
There is not so much option right now, right?
Not many options.
Cosmos and Polkadot are probably the most similar.
but they both made design choices that are, I think,
not as, just not as good as what Avalanche provides
for most enterprises, especially when it comes
to interoperability.
Like, a big barrier used to be that you'd have your own chain,
but moving funds to it is a huge pain in the ass.
And I think Avalanche architecture is better in that way
between moving funds between chains. a huge pain in the ass and i think avalanche architecture is is better in that way between
moving funds between chains gotcha right over to you
yeah i think a couple of differentiators here i touched on a little bit in the beginning of this space but um it really comes down to like what is your goal right um if someone's launching
a chain on Cosmos or Move
or, you know, if in an L2,
like you're expected to have a bunch of apps on that chain.
You're expected to create an entire ecosystem
where L1s and Avacs are usually specialized.
Like MapleStory is not going to get, you know, 100 apps.
They're not going to get a launchpad.
They're not going to get an NFT marketplace.
They're just, you know, it's their own thing
to do what they want on.
They don't need to create an entire new ecosystem. And I think that's the biggest differentiator. And honestly, something we should market more is like, we're not just,
you know, fractionalizing AVAX by having L1s. All of the apps stay on mainnet on C-chain.
And if you create an L1, you're doing something for a specific purpose. And of course,
you're paying for nodes, which is value accrual back to C-chain. So think of it now, we have like 100 or so,
I think 127 last I checked, L1s. Imagine that if there's 100,000 and they're all paying,
you know, 1.33 AVAX times five to seven nodes per month or per whatever period.
five to seven nodes per month or per whatever period.
It's obviously really cool.
And of course, the AVAX gas fees are burned anyways.
So yeah, that's like the long-term thinking plan.
I think people call it their purpose-built chains
to Bo's point.
Like that one purpose is why they have that chain.
And part of the reason I think they can do that
and they don't have to build a whole ecosystem
is the interoperability with the C chain.
So like we see the C chain,
that might be where the majority of your token liquidity is,
it's on a DEX that is built on C chain
and you can really easily get that over
to your purpose built chain.
And so you don't have to build that whole ecosystem
to those points.
Gotcha.
We've talked a little bit about the institutions
and the startups and how they can build an L1,
but let's talk a little bit about the consumers now
and, you know, about the cryptonators,
people and what they can do on AVAX.
And, you know, EcoBeast, Manus, Ashley,
you've been for
Quite some time already with Alex and I'm curious like are you guys exploring any apps on Avax?
You know, are you mainly interested in the avalanche itself like what they're building or you're exploring
Some of the products building on Avax as well
doing on Avax as well.
I mean, I feel like I have been like really part of the meme coin circuit personally.
And now I'm kind of exploring like more of the builder app side.
Like Ben and I have been talking because, you know, I really want to be into prediction
markets real bad.
I do news every day and I feel like I've got
my finger on the pulse of the trends and I really want to go full send and no better way to do it
through AVAX, honestly, through like a prediction market like that. So I'm pretty excited. Plus,
I've known him for years. So that's something I'm really looking forward to. Um, uh, honestly, I've been on the arena for like ever.
I feel like too, I really like, um, that they're doing live streaming.
I feel like, I feel like they were doing like pump fun stuff before pump fun did it.
Um, or maybe, maybe the timeline is wrong or whatever, but I'm going to choose to believe
that I'm right.
Um, and the timeline is wrong. whatever but i'm going to choose to believe that i'm right um and the timeline is
wrong uh so e-card right towards you yeah i was gonna say i um i think that the tech is actually
really interesting um a little bit more focused on that side of things than the memes and high
velocity trading right now but the interchain messaging protocol that allows spend on the various kind of like orbit L1s,
I think is really useful just for consolidating liquidity and unifying the liquidity layer
across all the various chains that are running on top.
I think that's like a liquidity fragmentation is a huge user experience issue across like
a whole range of blockchains.
And so whatever developers and whatever teams can do to kind of remove some of that burden
of not having deep liquidity across all of the various scaling solutions, I think that's
really useful.
So that's something that I found pretty interesting over the last few months.
So that would be my take.
Gotcha. And Madness? um so that would be my take gotcha and madness
in terms of tech lately i mean i've been on the arena for like two years now but lately i've been
mostly dabbling uh with black hole decks you know just trying to find a good apys and liquidity
good APYs and liquidity pools and stuff like that. It's been actually really fun.
pools and stuff like that it's been actually really fun
CG, you already talked to.
Yeah, I think, you know, Coop was talking about the interoperability amongst, you know, like,
from the top level, but it also works within the ecosystem, right? I think one of the beautiful
things about Avalanche that I believe really sets us apart from, you know, some of the other chains is how well the protocols and, you know, these platforms that exist can work with each other.
I think those that are most successful from an ecosystem, like from a DGEN standpoint, are those that utilize these protocols together, right?
If you can use so many synergistically to really maximize your return.
You know, you're talking about the Arena token and then you can, you know, for example, like lend and borrow it with OnSalver. And you can leverage all these protocols together.
And that's something that you don't really see on some of these other chains.
Specifically, you know, when you talk about like L2s and how they kind of like cannibalize, you know, the main chain, right?
and how they kind of like cannibalize, you know, the main chain, right?
When you have the way that AVAX is built, and we'll see it even more so, you know,
eventually with the L1s, is that it really propels like the main chain.
And I think once that light bulb goes off and people really recognize
on how they can utilize all these protocols together,
that's when that kind of, you know,
that aha moment hits on, like,
why you want to be on Avalanche.
What do you think, like,
if someone wants to, you know,
comment, build on AVAX,
or, you know, you're just a crypto-native person,
you know, curious to learn more about AVAX,
curious to learn more about AVAX, what are the first steps for you?
what are the first steps for you?
Benjamin, great talk to you.
Well, I can speak personally about this because I'll be absolutely honest.
This time last year, I really wasn't looking at or playing with AVAX.
And that's just been the route that I've taken through Web3 for last three four years like I you know came in on
ETH mainnet and it well I just really wasn't looking for solutions I was more
trying to tap into the kind of I guess the creator economy that's why Ashley
and I know one another and like a number of other creators in the space and through my time at Rug Radio and stuff like I started becoming a bit more cognizant of
what was going on and then I decided that I was gonna really go full in on predictfully and try
and create a prediction market that was focused on sports that's what I'm doing right now and then
you have to ask the question right where are you gonna launch that and I can'm doing right now. And then you have to ask the question, right? Where are you going to launch that?
And I can tell you right now,
the best advice I can give anyone,
and I guess because we're all here,
because we all love AVAX already,
the best advice I could give anyone here to give anyone is to just come find out.
There is more information on AVAX's website website amongst avax's kind of like maxis
but by reaching out to as vo was saying earlier like team one or um or any of the kind of
ambassadors there's so much there is such a wealth of information but kind of following on from what Ashley mentioned a bit earlier,
I've never known an executive team and then the community be so available. Like I met Amy,
as I said, and then immediately it's just been like, okay, well, here's a group chat. Let's add the people who are relevant to you building what you need to build.
There's like 20 people from like, what I assume is AVAX's C-suite, like genuinely chipping in and saying like, Ben, this looks great. Ben, I think you'd really like to meet this person. Ben, you
know, have you thought about changing that? Let's jump on a call. You know, like Vo's obviously had
the fucking maddest week or two weeks ever since she came in. I've already been able to sit
down, have a chat with her. She's introduced me to some really useful people within the ecosystem.
And I think the advice to anyone who is building that is like considering AVAX is just come and
talk to people. And very, very quickly that you'll have you'll have made your
mind up i i honestly um i've made a lot of decisions in the last three months about that
are going to define the future of the platform i'm trying to build the best decision i've made
and this is not just because i'm on this space i've genuinely been saying it for a few weeks now
uh was to come and do it with AVAX.
I'm really, really pleased with the decision I made.
Koop, Ray told you.
Let's go to Pythonomics, and then I'll go after.
Thanks.
I just wanted to kind of touch on the discovery aspect of things.
You know, one of the challenges coming into this space
is there's a lot of information
to really digest, to understand kind of where you want to go.
And something I saw recently that Team One released was some kind of like dashboard,
which listed off all the different projects and services, communities that are available
on Avalanche.
I feel like that's going to be a pretty key for anybody new coming onto Avalanche to be
able to discover, you know, the type of content or the type of projects that they want to be a pretty key for anybody new coming on to Avalanche to be able to discover,
you know, the type of content or the type of projects that they want to be involved with.
Yes, that was actually something like Vo immediately was like,
where can I just go look at all of our stuff? And we didn't have the best answer.
It is hard to keep up, but having Team One manage that, and I'll try to find the tweet and uh pin it but
yeah i just i just paid it nice also i think is it there i i don't see it yet but i do see
that the bitwise filed for an evax etf that seems brand new news while we've been on this space
um my thing i we did a survey avery i think ran this survey and it was like, how did you find
out about Avalanche?
And the vast majority was like from a friend.
And I hear some of that echoing in our conversation, like, you know, they just talk to somebody,
talk to a friend.
And so I think that is the best way to get into it is talk to your friends, see what
they're into.
Discords have always, and telegram chats have
always been important to me for discovery as well well yeah i just wanted to to say i also want to
shout out the team at core um i know they're also undergoing some upgrades and some cool stuff too
but they have a native discovery platform it's's a little outdated, but if you just download Core Wallet, you can check it out or go to core.app, I think is the website. If you're on desktop or Safari or don't want to download.
gas fees um and just do what i want and trade avax or coins on avax without having to pay a fee so
um yeah if you're looking to get into it and you know don't know where to start it's always a good
spot obviously it's supported in every evm wallet rabbi um i think magic in wallet also supports it
metamask you name it so being evm compatible is also like the biggest value add as well. Just a very quick shill,
predictably also supports Core Wallet, just saying.
And Manda from Core Wallet is an absolute dream to deal with.
It's great, another good one.
By the way, I want to talk a little bit about the ETF.
So yeah, breaking news, Cooper already told about it,
Bitwise field for an AVAX ETF out of Delaware.
Shout out to Volk and Kyle Wilson in the crowd for sending me those news.
And yeah, I'm really curious, like, Coop, Volk, how does it specifically, like, impact the AVAX chain?
You know, what are those news telling to us?
So I know what you want me to say.
All right. I know how you want me to say. All right.
I know how you want me to answer this question.
But what I will say is that this is a huge sign of legitimacy for our entire industry
as an asset class.
It's, you know, Bitwise isn't a small name.
We have tons of massive names, VanEck's filing an ETF for Avalanche, and there's a huge demand for getting access to these tokens in many,
many different ways, right? And ETF specifically is pretty straightforward is that not everyone
wants to custody their own AVAX, right? A lot of massive institutions, they would just rather trust another massive institution to custody their AVAX for them if they're buying
in a ton of size. They're just not in the business of extreme cybersecurity that they would need to
be if they're just holding this AVAX spot in a regulatory compliant ways, depending on the structure that that institution
is using. So a long winded way of saying it's a huge, huge sign of legitimacy for Avalanche,
the ecosystem and all the other different cryptos which have ETFs has been awesome for Bitcoin.
And my Roth IRA is majority Bitcoin ETF,
which is hilarious because it's just mooning.
I can't wait to cash that out when I'm 60.
And as well as the ETH ETF,
it's been just great things for the entire ecosystem.
And very exciting to see AVAX is right there with them.
Yeah, I hope someday, you know,
the AVAX will be at the same spot of marketing as the XRP.
People are talking about it, even if they're not in crypto.
But yeah, we are going towards that goal, right?
And you know, by the way,
yes, sorry, go ahead, CG.
I was going to say, don't get Coop started with those Uber drivers, man.
Oh, just Avery was pinging me about that.
I just filled out another form trying to get a hold of Uber.
It is Friday.
This is like your gun.
Oh, yeah.
Great reminder.
I will write my tweet.
Yeah, great reminder. Make sure to, you know, book your Uber and tell your Uber
driver about AVAX, and we're gonna onboard one by one. And, you know, I appreciate everyone for
the request, by the way. So many people want to come up and speak on their spaces, but unfortunately,
you know, we have maximum slots because Elon Musk only allows three hosts and 10 speakers,
but I'll make sure to invite you to the next one if you want to speak on our
spaces. And, you know, I'm really curious, like, how is different, guys,
your experience with AVAX compared, you know, to everything else as a consumer?
You know, you came to AVAX, you know, I obviously before participated on Solana when I started out
like in 2021.
Then Abstract launched half a year ago
as well and I was checking it out as well.
But I'm really impressed like by the
amount of builders that have launched.
We have streaming platform, we have
a social platform,
the arena, we have predictions platform,
we have all this kind of stuff.
And I'm curious to hear like
your opinion, what's your personal favorite thing about AVAX that made you to stay here?
You know, if you're not an AVAX employee, I'll answer this question.
Yeah, I got hired by Ava Labs, so labs so yeah yeah unfortunately me as well um cancer i'll take it
oh i think you know i'm uniquely blessed to be able to kind of operate as both right like i'm
a builder on the chain but i'm also a very active community member and i think what really separated
it for me was that avalanche doesn't really meta chase, right? Like, I think they continuously fire on cylinders, and they just wait for the meta to kind of catch up, right? Like, I think, you know, in a space that moves so, so fast, it, you know, we always say, right, like, FOMO is a hell of a drug, right? If you chase, you're already behind, right, because you're chasing.
If you chase, you're already behind, right, because you're chasing.
And so I think as from like a builder and a community member, what really stood out was that they continue to double down on efforts, whether it is with gaming, right?
Like I still think right now we're in prediction markets and community tokens.
And while the meta might be shifting, like Avalanche is still way ahead on the gaming sphere, which I think is a massive move within the blockchain and technology, again, and crypto.
And I think it has a massive use case.
And you don't see them getting away from it.
They're still continuing to do that.
So I think from the community side, it's no matter how you operate in this space, you can do it on Avalanche and do it well, because from the
top down, they don't quit on something, right? They're very, you know, one, again, you know,
shout out to BD teams and how they're doing, like Voa mentioned, just having a pulse.
They're very, very aware of where the market is at this current standpoint,
but they're going to build on their vision regardless of that. And I think while some people
might not always love that, I think it's a huge strength because as we see, the market adapts very,
very quickly and adjusts even quicker. And so to be prepared when that happens, I think, you know,
again, we're more uniquely positioned than what you would find elsewhere. I'm glad you say that because it is a big challenge to stay focused.
And it's definitely not easy.
And we try a lot to say, look, it may not be hot right now,
but we have to continue down this path because it will be important.
Talking about trends and narratives, by the way,
obviously before we were actively talking about gaming, we were talking about AI, and I'm curious to know from the Avon team, are you guys specifically focused on just one direction or you keep improving each one?
Definitely a wide variety here. We've got people in teams working on individual
verticals to a degree.
Like there's still,
there's a gaming vertical
and it's basically three or four people
focused entirely on that
so that they don't have that issue
where a new trend pops up
and they get pulled
in seven different directions.
Yeah, that's it.
Gotcha. And talking about the AI, by the way,
how are you guys specifically trying to basically improve
your channel in this direction?
Like, are you having like specific AI products
or do you have an AI team inside of your company,
team inside of your company, like any AI department?
like an AI department?
I don't know that we have a, well, yeah, I don't know if we have a specific AI department,
but like you can imagine people that work at Ava Labs love technology, at least to a
degree.
And so I see, you know, I work on marketing.
I see the marketing team really leaning into AI just on an individual level.
Like there's not a specific program, but everybody is trying the new platforms and figuring out how they can use them to their advantage.
So it's happening inside the organization pretty naturally.
And then we have some really solid partners.
I think Kite, for those that don't
know kite um it's an ai platform building on avalanche and they just announced a pretty big
raise was it 30 million or 3 million i don't know if i'm mixing the zeros wait is it is it a team was like found engineers of over uh 33 million coop yeah so um they're definitely one to watch
and then we have a handful of others and i think a lot of people in ai for crypto are still like in
that cooking phase because we had and we had virtuals really popular but ultimately like token
mostly token launching platform.
I see the projects on Avalanche mostly in build mode,
trying to figure out what is that next step in crypto AI
so that they can be there first.
But I'm really curious, you know, really, you know,
short question, fast answer.
What's your favorite product on AVAX?
I'm gonna go with Off the Grid. I think Off the Grid is an awesome example of what
crypto games can do and how they can be user experience wise.
Voh,'s about you? Can't hear you for some reason. Ashley, go ahead.
I mean, I agree with Off The Grid. That's the one that I see played the most I've had an opportunity to play several other games like
I've played MapleStory and other games but like that one really really stands out because I mean
I literally see it everywhere like not even just people in in crypto I see it outside of crypto
and that is really truly difficult for crypto games to do is actually break out of the crypto, you know, the ethos, the ethos of crypto.
I mean, you never see that anymore.
So I love that.
And plus, I like shooter games.
I like storytelling games.
So that's why I like MapleStory.
So those are like the two main ones that I have experimented
with. Yeah MapleStory is really huge AP and you know it's funny fact but I'm actually a Ukrainian
guy but and so of the great efforts you know that the part of the team is from Ukraine and they have
an office in Kiev which is the capital of Ukraine and it's really great to see. And, you know, basically we have builders all around the world.
And Mendes, what about you?
Like, have you explored any of the apps?
Like, what's your favorite one?
I know that you've been for two years on the Arena.
So probably I would guess that Arena is your favorite app on Avax.
I really, really like the Arena and I'm a fan of it, but honestly the one I
I used the most was off the grid of course because
It wasn't it was
Like a web 3 game and a web 2 game, but also
It's the only web 3 related game that I would just
Go and tell friends from web 2 to play together and we will genuinely enjoy it.
So that one is my favorite.
Yeah, same here.
Actually, I had a friend of mine that shared with me about Off The Grid
and he was like telling me everything about it.
And I'm like, oh, it's actually on AVAX.
And I almost done for AVAX.
And he's like, what?
So it's really cool that people that are actually not in crypto,
they're talking about the game that is basically crypto-based.
And so Pythonomics, I know you guys,
you're basically like derivative or milady that was launched on AVAX
and you guys have been around for quite some time.
Now, curious to learn your experience with the AVOX community
about NoChileo community
where you guys just type
when you're bored, NoChileo
and many people come to the comments.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun
seeing everybody just kind of show up
whenever you post NoChileo.
You just get this raid of
hundreds of people coming in.
It's awesome.
But I think I'd have to give credit for that to probably the app
that broke my cherry on Avalanche, which is the arena.
That's how I was onboarded to this place.
And I still find myself using it, maybe not on a daily basis,
but definitely on a weekly basis these days.
Yeah, shout out to Jason.
You know, you guys are kidding me,
to be honest. And I'm seeing all the
shows, you know, people are getting
tipped. And I'm wondering how
much actually people got in total
from tips on the Rina platform?
Do you know the numbers?
I set
my feed to to the lowest.
I don't know if it's 1%, 4%, whatever.
And I've made maybe 10 posts on there.
And I've gotten 10 to 15 AVAX, which is not nothing, right?
And for me not really posting and also having the lowest possible fee.
It's actually probably a bit more than that.
That's just how much I've had. And I just rebuyy my tickets or give it to my ticket holders but yeah i've made like
quite a lot and i i think it's like a super undertapped niche of creator capital markets
but yeah jason if you have any stats type of mind
yeah vo vo is a big earner on there. No, we got, there's been over 15 million tips sent now.
I'd have to get back to you at the USD value of those,
but there's been over 15 million tips actually sent.
We paid our content creators $10 million,
over 500 million traded on the Arena Dex,
around 100 million traded lifetime on tickets so we we also have
a new earnings tab in everyone's wallet you can see how much you've earned the airdrops worth
around 22 million giving it away ridiculous amounts of value to all forms of content creators
whether you're a streamer stages host a token founder and we haven't even hit our full peak in terms of creator monetization
with what we're about to roll out in uh q4 so yeah i wouldn't sleep on this because the fee
fee meta is in full swing right now ashley i was gonna say that that actually like the very first tips that I ever got like streaming was on the arena and
literally I did maybe a 30 minute stream and got $150 for 30 minutes that is like that's that's less
or that's more than 150 per hour that's like $300 per hour if i did full hour like shout out to shout out to jerry
he just became an arena champion from tips on his stream which is at least 6k and uh we also now
have the in-app swap so if you get all these meme coins you don't know what to do with them you could
swap in your wallet for stables or avax soon with moon pay you'll be able to cash out directly
to your bank so trying to close the loop on all this i actually got jerry on stage uh i remember
like jerry you was before more engaged like in the gaming side of things but now then you've
transitioned more to the alex you know the arena what was your journey so far and you know you guys
are hosting this space at the stages together with Brenton,
and you guys are receiving really huge support. Really great stages.
Yeah, hey, thanks, man. I really appreciate you bringing me up and appreciate the shout-out.
Yeah, I mean, at Java, we've known each other for years at this point, but I did start in games and done a lot of stuff in the games industry.
But yeah, I don't know.
I think once I started really probably by getting onto Arena more, realized that the most fun game that any of us can be playing is probably just the game that is crypto.
be playing is probably just the game that is crypto. And, you know, I think that's truly like
the best Web3 game is like just diving into what it's like to be on chain and explore that world.
And I tell people in gaming all the time, like the best, most positive EV move I have ever made
in my crypto journey was not being stuck in one niche and just learning a lot more about crypto in general. And, you know, I think like, yeah, Arena was like what got me into to get out of my comfort zone.
And like when I realized, you know, we have a shit ton of people that listen to us,
I should probably know what I'm talking about.
And, you know, that growth all happened like on Arena and, you know, within AVAX.
So it's, you know, it's probably will forever be my crypto home for that reason yeah for sure you know i
think you know everyone has really different reasons why they're on crypto uh and you know
personally when i came to crypto i've really realized for myself that it's not really efficient
to focus just in one direction because there are so many great products
that are building out there.
And I've just decided to focus on the ecosystem
rather than a specific direction like AVAX
because they're building everything.
They have AI products, they have gaming products,
they have other products as well,
and institutions are coming to change.
So it's really cool.
And it could be.
I was wondering about your experience as well.
What's your favorite app so far on AVAX,
if you're exploring any besides the AVAX tech itself?
Was that question to me? I'm sorry.
It was to EcoBeast, but maybe EcoBiz is not with us.
I'll pass to Brendan then.
Yeah, I was going to say, I actually never had experienced Avalanche prior to coming on through the arena.
But as we even circle back a little bit, I think everything does come full circle in this conversation to culture. There is definitely a very unique culture on Avalanche that can become, you just meet a lot
of really high quality people. And that is reflected at Summit. I've now made it to both
Summits the last two years since I joined this ecosystem. But I've been in the industry for a
while. I was heavy in EEC through the last cycle,
DeFi summer, everything like that. And then the arena introduced me to this along with a lot of
other people. And then a chunk of us all got addicted and stays on. But I think a lot of
things that are interesting here between community. And then there's kind of this sense of willingness to try things in this
space and willingness to learn, willingness to dive into different DeFi platforms, willingness
to build and just a passion on this chain that's really magnetic. So I think for me, when I came
here and I started hanging, meeting people, I started thinking, man, the other thing
is you feel like you can drive impact here. You feel like we said before, you have a touch.
Like even when Vo came here, you feel like I can reach out to Vo. I could say something to her.
She's going to hear me. She's going to see it or another team member. And it feels like people do
want to progress this chain. They want to expand the community. They want to have
fun and they want to keep pressing to the next level. They want to expand. They want to try
things, build things. And I truthfully, even though I was part of DeFi summer, which was just
kind of a comedy scale of APRs, I didn't go back to DeFi until probably late 2024, early 2025 in a
way of investing in pools, figuring out the different,
like what makes sense in concentrated liquidity, how to use strategies. And that was really because
of the community that's here of intelligent people that can help push you to utilize your
capital in these different ways during different parts of the cycle to multiply the
impact that you can make on profits. And I think that's so intriguing, that like continuous learning
mindset. And I don't want to take up a ton of time, but I think that's what gets me addicted
is all these people trying to push you to actually succeed more through more of the tools on chain.
through more of the tools on chain.
Yeah, same here, like I'm seeing so many, you know,
builders, some of their community members
that are helping out and, you know,
they're pushing the space forward.
And you know, Voh, you've basically joined last week.
I'm actually curious to know more about the culture.
Like, have you checked out any of the AVOX communities, maybe NFT collections or whatever?
Have you got a chance to join any of them?
Yeah, I need to go pick up a Nochilio before they kill me.
PFP at Nochilio.
Maybe an honorary. I'll do an honorary if the Nochilios want to make me one.
Bye, make it happen. maybe an honorary i'll do an honorary if if the no chili is want to make me one but yeah i don't know it's it's kind of like it's again another full 180 of like me being on solana
you know magic eating all the other chains but um you know nfts were all of solana at one point
like solana was just known for nfts before it was even known for pump fun or pump fun even existed
um and i think solana's lost a lot of that, right?
So I feel like there might be an opening for these degenerate cult-like communities
to really pop up on AVAX.
And I hope that does happen.
Obviously, AVAX isn't like the meme coin, the casino, the NFT chain.
And I think we're going to see more of that come into play soon.
Obviously, while a lot of the team is focused on the institutions the big names we're also looking for the prediction markets the casinos you know the the fun you know short to
midterm things that you know aren't going to take years and years to build out like something like
FIFA so I don't know a long-winded answer to say I need a Nochilio honorary. Yeah, for sure.
You need one.
And you know, Nochino, if you're down to make an honorary for me,
I would gladly accept it as well.
Brandon.
Honestly, honoraries are like, I would take an honorary over someone handing me like 20k.
Like, dude, I feel so good when I get an honorary.
It's like, you don't have to sponsor a KOL or like pay for sh for shills like just make them an honorary and they'll like freak out honestly you should you guys should start doing them for
like ashley menace me jason ben ico whoever else jerry jerry jerry jerry has you have one dude
it's probably the most well-known in the collection to be honest
yeah i have an old julio but i want to have one that looks like me, you know.
But, Brandon, raise over to you.
Yeah, of course, I absolutely love the Nochilio
and the wide movement.
Anybody tapping into AVAX,
a thousand percent, if you don't have a Nochilio,
I basically, I only have a certain level of
respect for you until that moment of width enters the platform and i honestly ask you you should
just take your head and just stretch it as wide as possible and pfp it and just claim it's a no
chili oh i think that'd be the funniest thing ever but this or i could stretch my head in real life
you know like i don't live it I don't know how it works.
We remember the blub content.
We know you're willing to go the extra mile.
Go for it.
But the second thing I wanted to say,
and the main thing I wanted to say before I got distracted,
I want to see with Vo, I know Coop and others aren't on,
but I think a lot of times we as a community on these different platforms,
things trying to think about how to make the best impact.
And I know you're early in the new role,
but for you, how do you feel the community
and all these different people can make the biggest impact for Avalanche
and align to what your guys' overall vision is?
How do we amplify and multiply that
effort going through our lives on a daily basis to help yeah honestly it's i mean community is
already doing this but honestly just like tell a friend right like i'm putting in my group chats
i'm like hey this is some cool shit what's going on you're like hey jump in this face and people
are doing that, right?
People are curious.
The more we talk about it, the more people are like, all right, let me talk about it, right?
You have to tell someone to do something or see a logo 20 times before they actually recognize it or care, buy it or whatever you do.
So it's just a lot of repetition.
um it's supporting everyone in the community like i if i get tagged in a tweet that's talking about
It's supporting everyone in the community.
avax i will drop a plot a reply no matter what even if it's just a little red triangle right
it just shows i'm supporting and you know pushes that to my audience a little bit and the algorithm
picks that up so just support others um continue to be a cult um i hope everyone shows out really
really big for summit next year it's going to be in a very convenient location.
And, you know, it's going to be really big.
I'm so stoked for it.
I don't want the events team to kill me.
But, yeah, a lot of cool stuff there.
A lot of cool announcements, X, Y, and Z.
But, yeah, just keep showing up.
Show up for each other.
Show up for, you know, the community.
Don't show up for me or Avery or Cooper, you know, the foundation or Alpha Labs.
Show up for each other and we'll do what we can.
Keep doing cool partnerships and that kind of stuff.
Any hints where the summit will be next year?
Please, Amsterdam.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It'll be a very convenient location.
Japan?
I don't know if Japan is't know. I don't know. It'll be a very convenient location. Japan? I don't know if Japan is very convenient.
Super convenient, Ash.
It's convenient for me.
Yeah.
No, I did. I did say we should we should do a little like, you know, not as big as like, you know, fly everyone to Asia in the middle of September brand trip.
But, you know, maybe after after like ecc or a token event we
fly people to like spain or france or wherever and you know have a little fun time um with founders
and builders or k-wells or whatever but very much just an idea right now i've got a all all of the
k-wells here gotta hit up the dream and say we want to go to Ibiza or something and we can make it happen.
Voke,
may I ask a question?
Permission to ask a question.
Allowed.
You have been known to,
to show up for things at Basel at art,
Basel in Miami the last couple of years.
What,
what are the odds that,
that Basel does something?
Yeah.
I mean,
I was talking to the dream. He's, he's kind of like co-planning it
uh we actually have a call next week but um yeah last year it was like uh we had nba box seats and
that was like the coolest experience um and it was like a very private intimate thing where
you know i was talking to people i've either followed or like you know idolized someone
like chairman or kaleo or even bill, the founder of Dogecoin.
Like we chat a lot on Twitter and I find them at him there.
And then, of course, there was people like Ashley and Aaron and, you know, people that I always hang out with.
And it was just so cool.
So definitely expect some intimate events like that.
Probably another house.
I think that's probably going to happen.
No yachts, strict no yachts as the Choose Rich Nick incident happened last year.
But yeah, it should be a fun time.
By the way, I'm really curious.
So you've joined last week, right?
And I suppose a lot of the people, a lot of the kiosks are reaching out to you to ask about the AVAX.
And I'm curious, like, how the sentiment has changed on AVAX?
You know, what are their opinions? Are there more people coming to AVAX right now?
So yeah, I would love to hear more about it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I see it all over my timeline.
Maybe it's because I'm tweeting about it more.
But I was tweeting about AVAX anyways,
without getting paid months and months ago.
So I don't know.
I just see it normally
because my friends are into the community.
I'm into the community.
But I do see a huge uptick in people
that have never talked about AVAX
or bought a singular AVAX tweeting about it now,
which is cool.
I joked to some of my friends.
I think it was actually like ICO
and a couple of the other degenerates
that I'm friends with.
And it was like, you know, tweeting about AVAX gets you crazy engagement.
And it kind of does.
And if we can keep that going where it's like someone tweets about AVAX, maybe it's an engagement farm or whatever, but it gets really good engagement.
More people are going to be tweeting about it.
More people are going to be joining the chain.
More people are going to be taking note that, you know, people are talking about AVAX and the right people are talking about AVAX. And I think it's just a trickle down effect,
right? It only takes one person to start this. And hopefully me being like the biggest AVAX bull
right now helps. So I don't know. I think there's a lot more people coming in. We've also seen
all time high transaction counts this month, I guess August, since 2023, I want to say.
There's a few charts out there. I'll try to find and pin one. But we also are seeing, you know,
150 million plus in stablecoin inflows in one day, which actually flipped Solana and I think at one
point flipped Ethereum. Sorry, Casey, I know you're with EF. I see you down there. But yeah, I don't
know. There's a lot of stuff happening and it's not a CT native chain, like I said earlier. And I think CT is starting to take note. And it's
kind of bullish that it's not CT native, just because it means we're focused on a lot of real
builders outside of Web3, but now trying to market some of this cool stuff to Web3 as well.
And on top of that, I was going to say, I put out a post earlier today. I know we were all kind of joking, showing our DMs of, you know, people and the Vo effect.
But, you know, the real one is the token terminal put out this week that daily active user jumped over 80% on Avalanche, reaching like up to 80K.
So, you know, it really is like, you know, adoption is not just a, you know, a keyword, but it is actually happening, you know, kind of real time.
So, you know, it all starting to line up.
Yeah, I'm stoked.
I'm stoked.
I think I think I did this in a call earlier with some execs that, you know, AVAX is at a very pivotal moment.
Blockchain is at a very pivotal moment.
It's either, you know, things go really well and people really get into crypto or you know it's
going to be a rough few years so um hopefully we've we've got this golden bowl timed really
well for a lot of the announcements we have coming out and people take notice both you know normies
and uh you know institutions and then also of course like the ct dgens
by the way for those people that know, are reaching out to you,
to come to AVAX, you know,
to start participating in the AVAX ecosystem,
what would you say are the best first steps for them?
Would you say, like, coming to AVAX Team 1
would be one of the greatest decisions, for example?
I think so.
I think so.
So, yeah, AVAX Team 1, just to recap,
for, like, anyone that just tuned in and didn't hear me feel about it earlier, decisions for example i think so i think so so yeah if x team one just to recap for like anyone
that just tuned in and didn't hear me feel about it uh earlier but if x team one is like the largest
um organization uh of builders across any blockchain they have i think six or seven
hundred new members spanning across 50 or 60 different countries um they're going through a
revamp um it's there's a lot of really cool stuff coming but they just announced their latest cohort
it's completely free to join
it's just application based
you don't have to be a dev or a founder
you can just be an enjoyer, community member, KOL
investor, whatever you want to be
and there's
bi-monthly meetups in different cities
different countries, different regions
and we go to colleges, we do a ton of stuff
there's hackathons, there's grants. Yeah, India is probably our biggest hub. I know
Nigeria is really big. I think Rwanda is pretty big. Trying to get some stuff set up in the US,
a Canadian branch. And, you know, there's so much cool stuff happening. If you live in a major city
or even in a country that has a good amount of people in crypto um feel free to
hit me up if you want to run a chapter um we're always open to everything and um you know people
that run these are also paid and compensated for running them too it's not like just free and you
know they're doing it on their own they have support from our labs avex foundation they have
you know it's a lot of people that are really supportive of this. And it's kind of like this giant cult of enjoyers.
And it's not just gated to AVAX as well.
You can just like blockchain.
You can like Solana.
You can like base.
You can like SWE.
You can like whatever and join.
It's really education focused and community focused and just honestly super cool.
I'll open up a tweet from them.
I don't think they're accepting applications right now, but definitely follow the accounts
and they will probably open them up
in the next month or so, I'd say.
But yeah, definitely start there.
If you're looking for what to do,
I think I just deleted the post
because we wanted to look at the ETF one,
but I'll pin that up too.
I think it's called Surgeon or Cascade
from Avex Team 1.
They created this huge ecosystem map of what to do.
So I'll pin that up as well.
And for the devs as well,
like the AVEX Team 1 is the best place, right?
And basically they would have to wait
for the next cohort to apply.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And I'll just pin this up too.
Like there was a 300-person event in Istanbul,
completely funded by AVEX Team 1 and their sponsors.
So I just pinned it. It looks really sick.
I'm like, actually, I have some FOMO for not being able to go.
But it's really cool.
Let me try to find this ecosystem app, Avery,
or you could just pin it if you have it handy.
Yeah, for sure.
It's really cool.
I'm actually having a former right now.
I would need to host one of those in Slovakia as well.
CG, right over to you.
I saw you raised your hand before.
I'm not sure if you still want to.
Yeah, I was just going to add on that the AVEX team won.
They also put out a newsletter,
so that's always really, really good to wake up to that in an inbox if you go that route.
Also, spaces are good, too, right?
There's another space, AVAX Talk.
It's been going on for about three years.
It's, you know, obviously a smaller space than, like, this one.
But you're talking about some native people that have been on the chain, you know, the past two or three years.
We run that every single day.
And it starts, you know, actually not too shortly after
this one. So that's always a good one. And then also talking about like favorite, you know, apps
and landing spaces, obviously, you know, for me, it's Salver, but I don't think it's, it's not just
a favor for that. It's also on Salver, there's a chain activity tab. And so you can see everything
that's happening on real chain on the chain in real time. So there's no better place to have
like a pulse on the whole ecosystem than within Salver
because it's not like your traditional marketplace because it's not just NFTs, right?
We, you know, for Vogue, like for coming from Solana, essentially imagine, you know, like
Magic Eden, Tensor, Sharkify, you know, all in one, right?
So it's a marketplace.
It's your leverage platform,
you can see real-time chain activity. So, and then on top of that, what really separates it
from those other marketplaces is it's 100% back to the community. So every, all the platform fees
collected from Salver go directly to the Salver stakeholders, which is the community, right? So
if you own a Salver, you own our token and stake it, you get all those fees back. And so, you know, Salver, it's a great landing place
because of the way that it's operated, what it offers exposure to. The Salver community is in
everything, right? There's nothing that happens on this chain that isn't talked about in the Salver
Discord because people are heavy in
DeFi, people are heavy in their arena, people are heavy within NFTs, and it's all found within the
Salver Discord. So it's another really, really good landing spot. And if nothing else, if you're
like me and sitting in front of a three-computer setup and trading, but you have DexScreener,
you have your tokens up, you have the Salver chain activity, because you can see what's happening real time on our chain. So, you know,
just wanted to throw that in there too, for talking about like favorite places to set up
within the Avalanche ecosystem. Yeah, let's give a little bit of highlight to the builders out there.
You know, Benjamin, you came to AVAX recently as well with Predictfully and you guys
have already launched, is that right? Very, very soft launch. So yeah, thank you. It's a prediction
market focused primarily on sports. And earlier this week, I made the link available to a closed
group, well not a closed group, an open group if people want to join it,
but a Telegram group of people who have expressed an interest while I've been kind of like building the platform.
So it is on AVAX, it's live on Seachain right now.
If anyone is interested in joining that Telegram group and then kind of coming in and having a play and testing it.
If they find predictably it's a few rows down in the audience or it's in my bio,
there's a pinned post on there which has a link to that Telegram group. And essentially in there,
you can get a link to it, you can create an account, you can claim some free points,
and you can go and play with some predictions. It's
very, very much in test mode right now. I've pulled about, I
think we've got 100 130 people in there, I've been able to pull
like, I don't know, 20 30 things that I would like to fix. 10 of
which I'm prioritizing early next week, and then I'm gonna
open it up for a public,
like a bit more of a public soft launch.
It's still very much points-based.
So it's not live paid for markets.
It's about collecting points.
And ultimately down the road,
like those points might turn into something.
But to begin with,
it's just about creating great markets.
And one of the things that I'm really oh thank you yes that is the post that I was talking about one of the things that
I'm really eager to do actually is join the arena and I want to stream regularly creation of markets
resolution of markets what it means to build a prediction market from the ground up and do that in public
with the community. So Jason, I'm going to reach out to you and I'd love to come and do that and
make sure that we're turning up every day and that people can participate in the creation of
the markets as much as making their own predictions. Yes, please do. We're in the business of integrating prediction markets
into live streaming.
So perfect timing.
Love that.
Perfect.
Okay, well, that's amazing.
Thank you so much.
Guys, I'm so sorry.
It's a bit late here in the UK and I need to bounce.
But this has been a fantastic space.
I'm really grateful that you guys invited me.
I'm very happy to come back any time and also go speak on anyone else's.
Like I really would like to integrate myself and the platform within the AVAX community.
So thank you all for being so warm and welcoming.
I'm looking forward to building here and appreciate you all.
And if you want to go test predictfully,
then join that Telegram group,
and I'll get you a link,
and you can get in and start playing.
But thank you so much, everyone.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, I appreciate you, Benjamin, for joining us today.
And yeah, I'll keep doing those spaces every week on Fridays at 2 p.m. EST,
so if you have enjoyed participating in it,
feel free to know you next time as well,
either as a speaker or co-host.
And CG, I just pinged your ecosystem up, so if you want to share about the software as well,
feel free to ping any of the tweets.
And going to Jason, you know, Jason, I wanted to touch a little bit on the Arena platform
and specifically the algorithm about the Arena.
You know, with X, formerly Twitter, you know, there is a lot of things.
If you're starting out as a creator, as a kill, you know, you're tweeting out things.
You need to know the algorithm here to actually perform well.
You know, obviously you need to make those replies every day.
You don't need to tag too many accounts.
You know, you need to reply to the others.
You know, there is the boost in shadowbounds, all this kind of stuff. And I'm curious to learn more,
how does it work specifically on the Arena platform?
Yeah, great question. I'll try to keep this short. But we are actively improving our
discoverability. So currently, there's a couple tabs.
So there's one based on who you're following.
Then there's a trenches tab.
So we've separated that from the social feed.
And the third is a trending tab.
The trending tab is based on an algorithm that combines different sort of metrics, which
different sort of metrics, which we're fine tuning. But the goal going forward is to make
we're fine tuning.
this more customizable for each user, which is obviously crucial. But you know, it's like chicken
and egg, we're focused right now on getting network effects. And, you know, discoverability
is going to come alongside that. So yeah, not the most advanced algorithm at its current state.
But one thing we can do that these other platforms can't is this is where tickets are super important.
So because there are essentially like monetary values attached to people, which represent status, trustworthiness, activity on the app, it's a pretty strong metric of like who's real and who's using the app. It's a pretty strong metric of who's real and who's using the app. We can use this to
kind of highlight different people and also as bot prevention. So the ticket model is more than
just sort of betting on content creators. It allows you to build a reputation system,
which is really cool. So expect a lot to roll out on the discoverability front in Q4
with some of our social changes.
Oops, I've tried to turn on mic.
But, you know, besides obviously the social part of the arena,
there are a lot of the other cool features that you guys are building, right?
And I was curious specifically, like, how do you guys work with the projects that are building on AVAX?
Like, are you helping them out?
You can help them to launch in the arena?
Yeah, no, it's a great question.
There's so many ways and we're getting approached by like so many builders and projects on Arena
because now we have Arena Connect.
So we have our own app store in the Arena.
Shout out to Python with the no chill race, which just launched today.
But with Arena Connect, anyone could connect their Arena wallet
and use any of these apps interchangeably.
So you kind of carry your ID with you and you can use any of these. interchangeably. So you kind of carry your ID with you
and you can use any of these.
We have prediction markets in there.
We have PVP battle games, we have racing games.
We have some decentralized advertising stuff coming up
and a bunch more.
So the app store is really cool.
And there's a whole little internet capital markets
thing for me, cause you could launch a token and incorporate it into an app as well. So that's just on sort of the builder side. We're
seeing incredible projects that want to launch tokens with us and build and incorporate their
apps because you have network effects and monetization in one place. And then I kind of
think of content creators as their own businesses and projects these days.
So if you see what's happening on the streaming side, how much people are earning and growing,
as well as stages, like people who were never Spaces hosts before are now like our top
stages hosts, getting like 500 plus listeners, running it every day. So like the arena really
is a place to start from zero and grow whether you're a
project founder a builder a content creator um and yeah we're just getting like flooded each day
we're gonna put out some posts soon about exactly what type of projects we're looking for in
particular um in addition to you know everything else that comes our way
gotcha sounds great and i guess i guess I would need more tips and advices
from Brandon and Jerry specifically
because I've tried many times
before growing my account on the arena,
but sometimes it was pretty hard for me,
especially because the algo is so different here.
And yeah, I think it was really great stages
and I actually have to drop off in a bit as well.
So we'd love to give everyone, you know, last chance to share their last thoughts.
And I'll do a recap of the spaces after.
Ashley, right over to you. Just some last words.
I've just been really grateful to be part of the AVAX community.
I felt very welcomed. I love having a
lot of my friends, like pretty much most of my friends are in AVAX. It's been really cool to see
everybody on the AVAX team and have Vo come into AVAX because she's got so much experience in this
industry. So I just have a lot of love to the AVAX community. I've had their support from even before I become an ambassador.
So I'm just, I'm so proud to be a part of it.
And thanks for doing this space.
It's great.
Yeah, for sure.
And we'll keep them doing every week.
So make sure, you know, to join the next time if you have enjoyed them.
And yeah, I've been with AVAX even before I became the ambassador.
I was more involved with the gaming before.
And I actually joined because of Hoop, because of his shit boss.
And yeah, I've got to learn more about Avax.
CG, your last words.
Yeah, I would just say, you know, have fun with it.
Be patient.
You know, good things.
I know it's hard in this environment. You know, all the dopamine hits of seeing all the stuff on the timeline, one thing to another.
But, you know, good things come to those who wait. And I think Avalanche is making all the right moves from top down.
And we'll eventually see that trickle down. Right. Whether your particular vertical that you operate in is firing at this time or not,
like don't get discouraged, you know, if you're into one particular area
and, you know, you're seeing the chain move, you know, operate on a different level.
Just know that everything, you know, like what's beneficial in one vertical for Avalanche
is beneficial for everything as a whole.
So just give it some time.
I think there is, you know, there is clearly a plan in place.
And it just takes a little bit to get to it.
So and then, I mean, and there's two ways, you know, as you wait for that, you can either
be upset or enjoy the ride.
So I think we need to see, you know, just a little bit more, you know, happiness, right?
I think we're seeing a lot of things.
It's not always, you know, the price of this, price that.
So zoom out a little bit, see what's actually happening and how strongly Avalanche as a chain
is positioning itself. And then just how can you prepare for that as that trickles down into your
particular vertical of how you operate in this space. So, and contribute and do like, like, like Vo was saying,
like Coop jokes about, you know, we,
there's no better marketing than like the grassroots word of mouth.
So if you want to see a change, be the change and, you know,
just really kind of embrace that as we, as we go forward here and becoming the
top, you know, market cap token that, that we know that Avalanche can be.
Yeah, that's a really great advice.
I appreciate you, CG.
And Brandon, right over to you.
Yeah, it's been really awesome to be with everybody on the space today.
I appreciate the invite.
It's been awesome to be able to meet a lot of these people at Summit as well. I got to meet Ashley and be able to talk
to her for the first time and be able to meet CG, although we had been on some calls beforehand,
but just to be able to meet in person, hang out. I've met Pythonomics, met several people. So
it's been really cool. It's been an an awesome space able to learn a lot as well
from the avalanche team and team members that came on really good conversation pieces and i'm really
in a agreement with cgi put a little video out on this the other day even it's you know we really
develop the culture that we want by being the culture we want to see and then hopefully bringing more people into that
pool. So culture isn't made by bitching and complaining all the time. It's made by actually
acting the way you want to act, being the kind of person you want to be, being somebody who's
not going to scam somebody else and bringing more like-minded people. So keeping that in the mind,
I think we've got a lot of fun to be had.
I am bullish on the rest of this year, whatever near-term brings.
I do think we have a fun run 2025, and I'm playing that way accordingly.
Jeremy, dude, just a little shill.
Jeremy's stream, we pushed it off a little bit to finish this space,
but we will be running straight after this.
And I do have some of this unique, specialax gear the formula one stuff uh that i'll be rocking on stream to rep
avax during that as well let's go on so apologies guys that uh you know my space is run over so
so much and i know you guys are hosting your show as well so make sure to join after the brendon
san jerry's show on the arena and it's uh you know in one and a half hours we have avocsoc as well
uh hosted by alonso make sure to check them out too jerry your last words
Matt, it's awesome that you put this off or put this on.
Very, very good space.
So I appreciate you putting this together for everybody.
And I think, yeah, one of the things that we all talk about is we need more of these things on AVAX.
And we need more stuff like this just happening.
So I hope you stick with it.
And thanks for letting me be a small piece of that.
And thanks for letting Brandon show the stuff that we're working on.
Appreciate that.
And hope to see this going on next week.
And let me know if you need anything.
Happy to help you out, Matt.
Yeah, for sure.
And always happy to have you here on the spaces as well.
And if you want to join the future, just pilling me.
Pythonomics.
So you guys have launched your game on the Arena platform.
You know, we'll have to hear a little bit more about it.
And any last words as well from you?
I think from my end, just, you know,
if you're new to AVEX, definitely go experiment,
go try out the different services,
go make an Arena account, go trade on Faro,
go check out Salvor for NFTs, you know, lending and borrowing.
You know, just explore the ecosystem, find your niche and find your people.
Because, you know, there's lots of little sub communities across AVEX.
Everybody wants to help.
Everybody wants to be, you know, like we're all like one big family over here.
So, you know, definitely, definitely take the time, explore.
You know, these slow periods are the best times to explore
um because slow cooks are the best cooks when those things start to heat up then it's no longer
slow anymore so um yeah definitely explore and uh last word would be no chillio now chillio
and jason your turn now
yeah no thanks for for hosting this as was said by jerry we definitely need more of these for the
ecosystem as a whole i would say like what the avalanche community is extremely loud
i would like to see us try to break out of the niche that we're in and you, expand beyond it in terms of getting the voice out
there.
And obviously people like Vo coming on is huge for that.
But if you look at every chain and every ecosystem that has made it big in this space,
they have those few like huge voices that are extremely influential.
And I think we can start seeing those native voices grow from avalanche and i would love
for them to be born in the arena and uh some of these other platforms as well so um this is like
a community-wide effort it's not just up to you know the team behind the the chain or or the
projects it's like it takes an entire community to make it.
those would be my words.
Yeah,
I appreciate you, Jason.
And we'll keep doing,
you know,
those spaces every week.
if you want to join next time,
ping me as well.
And,
you know,
again,
I think you were really needed
hire at AVAX
and it's really great
to see
how you're
spreading the words
about the latest happening on Avalanche,
and, you know, I've seen the engagement behind your tweets
and how many people started noticing what's happening here
that are outside, you know, of the bubble,
and it's really great, and I think, you know,
you're cleaning into this job, and, yeah,
we'd love to have you as a co-host in the future again,
and so, yeah yeah your last words
yeah thanks for that
I really appreciate you hosting this space and just being
like such a rock star on
AVEX C1 and just throughout the ecosystem
and yeah I feel like your own brand
is like you know proliferating and growing
so much from this kind of stuff too
and it's really cool to see
and yeah I'd love to come back as a speaker
or co-host anytime
yeah and it felt like yeah it was a very opportunistic hire for AVEX you know right
time right place um right vibe so I don't know everything works out for a reason I'm a big fan
of the butterfly effect you know if I didn't go to Art Basel and see a shrapnel you know and you
know know Tony V and Dub and Jerry, you know,
three years ago, two years ago,
then, you know, I probably wouldn't be here today.
So, I don't know.
Everything happens to a reason.
I'm excited to keep growing AVAX.
And I really do think it's almost AVAX season.
I'd definitely be paying attention.
I'd position yourself properly.
I'd get into some games.
I'd get into some apps.
I'd, you know, definitely sign up for the arena. Um, it's really cool. I should just pin Jason, ping Jason on
signal, probably like 50 messages of like, you guys should post this stat and this stat and this
stat. It's like, you know, um, there's so much cool shit. And I think a lot of what we're doing
internally to it, I have labs right now is working on narrative and how to appeal to the CT audience.
Um, cause we have the foundation have the foundationals for institutions.
Those are completely fine.
Our LinkedIn is popping, YouTube, whatever.
But, you know, especially our PR.
PR is great.
But even like how we write stuff, it's not as degenerate.
Like I came from Magic Eden and that was like the most degenerate company ever.
So, yeah, just leaning into like the intern and like the shitposty side.
I think you guys will see an uptick in that.
And, yeah, hopefully some new cool apps.
Not hopefully.
I know some really big ones and fun ones are coming.
So, yeah, if you're interested in joining the team,
we're hiring for a couple of roles.
Just Google Avalabs, Careers, and you'll find it.
Try some apps.
You know, get some AVAX if you want.
Burn some AVAX if you want. Burn some AVAX if you want.
And get on the arena.
Hit up AVAX Team 1.
Follow AVAX Team 1 if you're interested in joining and going to local meetups.
There's a lot to do that, you know, people may not know.
Yeah, really excited about the future of AVAX.
And yeah, for sure, just to recap the spaces,
make sure if you're new to Avax
and you have not joined Avax Team 1 yet,
to learn more about what's happening here,
to find out how you can contribute to the chain itself.
Maybe you can run any events,
maybe you can run any spaces,
or just want to contribute to the chain as a whole.
Make sure to apply when the next cohort comes.
And in the meantime,
we have a lot of the awesome Amba stores,
people tweeting about the Avalanche,
and you can ask any of the questions
just by in the DMs.
But don't ask me to recommend you
as an Amba store or hire you or whatsoever.
I'm not a part of Avax team.
I'm just a guy tweeting things.
If you're a great, a big kill,
you can just, you know, reach out to the dream.
I mentioned the DMs of the dream after these spaces.
So sorry about that.
But actually funny stuff.
I've been tweeting about Avax for the past nine months.
So like I'm a O a bus door for nine months
and I finally got the follow from Avonj.
I really appreciate it.
And I think it's my biggest places so far
and we'll keep them doing every week on Fridays
at TPMEC.
If you want to join next time,
feel free to DM me.
And from the other news that happened
on the Avonj for the past time,
we got Bitwise ETF field,
which is really huge.
And also Toyota has published a blockchain research report
where they chose AVAX, you know,
as to build an L1 in the future if they would build.
You know, some of the other companies
that are considering building an L1 on AVAX is LG as well.
We have Wyoming, they on AVAX is LG as well. We have Wyoming that chose AVAX as one of their chains
for their payments too.
And we have a lot of the institutions on Japan
and sites and banks as well
that are chosen AVAX L1s to build.
So it's really exciting times actually.
A lot of the institutions are coming on chain.
We have RWAs that play a really huge role here as well.
Maybe in the future, everything will be tokenized and on-chain,
and AVAX might lead a really big role here.
So, yeah, make sure to check us out.
Check out the AVAX amount.
Check out Avalanche.
Keep killing it at your job and tweeting about Avalanche.
And I appreciate all the speakers
joining us today if you're a builder you know feel free to reach out if you want you know to get any
insights on or you know you want me to talk about you i'm doing it for free just because i'm on avax
uh and yeah i appreciate you so much guys for joining us today and
on to the next one see you next time next week on Friday at 2 p.m. You see?
