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Recorded: June 26, 2025 Duration: 0:26:09Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the launch of a groundbreaking AI platform, the growing trend of banks adopting stablecoins, and the bullish sentiment reminiscent of the 2017 crypto boom, highlighting significant growth opportunities in the evolving landscape.
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Music I got rugged.
It's my fault.
I walked outside, went from Wi-Fi to 5G and then back to Wi-Fi,
and I guess I never got back into it all the way.
It's okay.
Maybe that was it.
Maybe that was our sign from the universe that it was time to end the space.
I don't know.
At least there's Hack Go and Nick West in here with me now.
We'll just have our own little space here
um all good we'll um probably just have to re just to redo it next week it's all good
i feel bad i feel bad for uh signal because he was waiting for like two hours and then Flaka's
guy was in there to talk about
his project and like
oops
I got rugged, it happens
it was definitely user
error though, it was definitely user error though.
It was definitely me.
I was in my garage and I was just like, I'm going to take a little walk just a couple
steps outside of the garage and kind of turn the corner and then boom, lost service for
like a split second.
But I was back in and then I could hear everybody and then all of a sudden it just, nobody could
hear me so is what it is is what it is
got a good space though uh that was uh two hours and ten minutes of uh some really good content
and uh you know i'm excited about film three they kind of took over the space. I let them do that. I'm used to it because they have a lot of, you know, a lot of stuff cooking over there.
So I'm excited for them.
But I don't know.
We'll give it a few seconds here or a few minutes here and see if folks want to come back in and finish up the conversations.
Otherwise, we'll close it out.
But, yeah, I see Frank down there. want to come back in and finish up the conversations otherwise we'll close it out but um yeah i see
i see frank down there i gotta i'm gonna have to highlight you guys next week uh frank i'm gonna
get you tell your tell your crew next week to come through uh for the next uh space we'll get
you guys up early and uh make sure you guys are able to share what you're building and and all that fun stuff
because uh yeah that wasn't that was not the uh plan i didn't that was not a planned rug
sometimes you plan that stuff right you're like oh man i'm tired i'm just gonna i'm gonna sign out
to say i got rugged i gotta go to bed you'll just out. But I promise you that was not that.
That's not what happened there.
That was just good old fashioned operator error.
Took a step too far outside of the garage tonight.
And space is just like, nah.
Nah.
But it has been like six, seven months since I've been rugged in a space.
So I've got a pretty decent, you know, track record going here.
Pretty wild, man.
Pretty wild.
I feel bad.
I feel pretty bad.
Signal.
Man, I don't know.
I'm sorry, dude.
Quigley, bro, chill.
I honestly, bro, I told you.
I saw the name of the space.
It said Best Builders on Base.
I got to hear from Brian.
You know, he's buying Zora coins.
I got to hear from Seamless.
Flannan trying to take on Hollywood.
You know, Herbert with his character development.
Dude, it's a lot of boom over there.
I don't know who Frank is.
I only know one Frank.
I'm from Solana.
So I'm pretty interested on hearing what he has to say as well.
Dude, I came to learn, bro.
So honestly, I just appreciate the platform you're giving to people to build.
So I just came to me and said what's up.
I was excited to hear about the platform you got going over there.
I was excited to hear about the platform you got going over there.
I wanted to talk about how if there's one area that we can all collaborate on cross-chain, it's AI.
I feel like that's finding good tools and good teams that are building on that side.
Whether you're on Solana or EVM, wherever you're at, I think that's a good place, I mean, for us to all work together.
It's the middle, you know, it's the middle.
It's not Web2 because Web2 is like, you know, read, upload, you know, or write, stuff like that.
But AI is more so dynamic, so it works for everyone.
So, I mean, I can tell you guys a little bit about it quickly.
I actually want to give you a private demo, bro.
I know we're locked in together on our thing, and it's just been a while.
Yeah.
But we're finally here.
So, dude, halfway through it, like, mental health was kicking my ass, bro.
Like, it took forever to get this up.
But I'm really proud of how it came out.
It's essentially just a – it's like – to not say too much, you guys can go check out the website.
It's a very soft launch. No sort of video or announcement has been made yet, but you can
mess around with it. We're about to set up a way where people can quickly use open source models
to quickly get it into people's hands and then
they can pay them for it. Right now, like in order to build on top of open source models,
you have to set up the compute, this hosting, and you know, you got to go through four to five to
six months of development like we did. But the way we did it was we basically set it up so where
once we create it once, we can create multiple of them.
And then we just came to the idea of like, OK, well, if we're going to do this, let's give it to the public, too.
So if you guys are interested in creating AI models, go to our website, check us out.
And yeah, I mean, we're the only people in the whole world doing this.
So quickly, you know us.
We like to build cool shit, new shit, even with our last one.
You know, AI agents on spaces was the only one that was doing it.
So much so that we, you know, connected with you, the base legend.
And, you know, obviously Elon Musk and all these other crazy people who ended up showing us our work.
So it was a great journey.
It was a great
initial product. And now that we have the attention and the base to, no pun intended,
you know, like a base where we can launch stuff off of, what better way to do it than to empower
every builder, whether it's Web 2 or Web 3, with something that would have took them six to seven months to do,
but thus they can do it in less than a minute.
So I like to explain it as the pump fund of AI agents because before pump fund, you had to create this whole token
and liquidity pool and all this bullshit.
But pump fund just said, click a button, you're live.
So we're going to do the same thing for open source AI agents.
And it's been pretty good.
We have a lot of people requesting premium access.
So just, again, it's free.
You just go sign up, get on our waiting list,
and we'll notify you when we're live.
Unless you're Quigs.
You can access it today if you're Quigs.
Quigs, call me.
I'm on it.
I'm on it.
We'll definitely catch up after the space
yeah I think
like I said
I think it's really
you know
we do these base spaces
I've been on
I've been a
you know
base maxi now
going on
a year and a half or so
you know
at the same time though
there's really good
teams
and really good products
being built
on other chains.
And whenever I see somebody who's, and we've talked a few times,
I know you mentioned mental health and like being a founder and like going through,
kind of going through, going through it with your community and just trying to,
you know, stay on task.
I mean, it can be a struggle.
And that is not a chain thing, right?
That's just a human thing.
Like, we've all been there.
And so this is a guy who I respect as a builder, who's iterated and constantly put out his best effort to build a product.
And, yeah, the token might be on Solana, but the product, the AI tools that he's offering, we can all use them.
It doesn't matter what chain you're on at all.
So you mentioned the Convo side, like putting the voice to these agents, bringing that on Spaces, being essentially the first team to do that.
team to do that. Putting that product out there was huge.
Got attention from Elon, from Jesse Polak,
from the Soul team. You got all the eyes on you guys.
The team is stacked. You guys have
a solid core team there that
is constantly iterating and putting out
some really cool tools for us.
So I'm excited, man.
Yeah, I'll check it out.
I can't wait to see what you guys have come up with.
And hopefully there's projects on base that will look at what you guys are doing
and consider adding to their tool belt, so to speak.
Yeah, no, for sure.
And we're not married to a chain either like i
told you we're chain agnostic it's ai like you can't you can't force ai to live somewhere it's
ai is everywhere so not only are we trying to tap the web 3 market with projects but also web 2 but
i think i honestly bro like i'm not gonna lie i fell in love with sparcaster like i low-key
like I'm not gonna lie I fell in love with sparcaster like I low-key spend more time on the
sparcaster timeline than I do on the twitter timeline I don't post much but it's just very
refreshing and it always feels like someone over there is always having an aha moment like someone's
always building some dope ass shit and you just open your timeline and you you'll eventually catch
it you scroll for like an hour
maybe two somebody some that somebody's gonna post something that's like damn near like damn
i've never thought of building something like that or like it's it's very interesting right so
i think base has a beautiful like like like like ecosystem and honestly like i don't discount that and i'm i'm actually looking at ways that
maybe in the future where when we do start you know putting most of this stuff on chain i think
base will definitely be the way they go uh especially with zora bro like well you got
brian over here saying like he got he caught attention from you know buying everyone's like uh creator tokens like that's
dope as fuck you know so it's like it's it's a lot of it's a lot of tension appreciate that bro
appreciate that really appreciate those roses
no man i think you're quigs you sold me on it though i'm not gonna lie you were the bridge
you were the bridge i was not looking at base before i met you so and i'm sure you're like that for many people so you're honestly a blessing to
the ecosystem you know it's funny i as you're talking about zora i i'm buying up i'm actually
i got brian a top holder of uh the speakers that were on uh before we rubbed um oh uh and pattern integrity yep yep nice top holder of their
tokens now that's how you do it man that's how brian rolls brian doesn't mess around he's like
i'm gonna go buy up all the zora tokens of all the top top uh folks in on base man i love it i love it
Folks and on base man. I love it. I love it
They're so cheap. They're so cheap right now
Yeah, no, you can get you can be like I saw Jesse Jesse
Like I don't know what he's got. He's got it
He's got to have some kind of bot. This is like hey
Anytime somebody drops something that he knows he just boom he's already got it
Like I thought he was my top holder and then not long after that Brian's my top holder
I'm like, oh shit. these guys are on it, man.
So, no, that's a good point.
Jesse has yet to buy any Brian material.
So we're really trying.
Oh, I'm sure he'll come around. You know, it's only a matter of time.
You guys are active, and I'm sure he'll see it,
and he'll swoop in at some point and grab himself a bag.
Hey, I want to say what's up to Kevin real quick.
Kevin, how you doing, man?
Good, man.
Just listening.
I got a few minutes the kids are taking a shower and, you know, crushing some food.
So I figured I'd see what's going on on twitter
and saw you out of spaces i just figured i'd jump in and listen yeah we had a two two hour
10 minute space they got rugged and so i just said well i'm gonna go ahead and jump back in
and see if anybody see if anybody wants to finish up any of these conversations and so uh you jumped
into the to the the after
hours party here but yeah we're just shooting around shooting the shit and uh you know uh
you never know some some good i've had some of my my best moments on spaces with just about you
know 15 20 people in a space just shooting shooting the shit and like coming up with stuff so
well look you know when I'm on spaces,
I'm usually hollering about on-chain summit and whatnot. So I don't want to do that, uh,
to your spaces today. I'll just keep it, I'll keep it old school. I haven't done this in a,
in a long time, but, um, everybody's ready to got their little rocket rocket launch,
rocket takeoff gifts ready. Right. Cause I know I normally don't talk about market and shit,
but it, this feels very, uh, 2017 to me feels really, really good. Uh, so it's, I think it's
going to be good times here this next few months, man. It feels, it feels great. It feels great to
see what's actually being built. All the, all my traditional finance guys are, are talking to me
like, damn, it turns out you were right. I got regional
banks in North and South Carolina going, looks like we can consider your Bitcoin real now. So
fuck, man. I think it's just going to be a really good summer, man.
Kevin, are you ready for on-chain summer?
Man, to be honest with you i just want i just
want things to stay positive you know what i mean all the way through the summer it's like
the past couple weeks have been obviously everything's going on in the world just been
wild i it would be it would be really dope if we could just go into you know three months of like
everybody just chill for a minute you know and, and let, let's let some,
some builders build, let, um, let the politicians figure out how they're going to regulate this
stuff and kind of set the rules, rules of the road, uh, particularly as it relates to,
to banking and, and starting to kind of tokenize some of these real world assets and, you know,
let us have a, and I, you know, to be honest with you, Quigs, what I miss
is I miss the irrational behavior that we used to be able to vibe off of, of Twitter
back in 17.
You know, it was like, we were all, we were all hustling, doing our thing in our regular
job, so to speak, but we could come to crypto Twitter.
It was so much smaller and be a little irrational.
You know what I mean?
All the gifts, all the like,
you know, it was just, it, it, the vibe is still cool, but I want to go, I want to have a summer
of like throwback to 2017 where we're all a little ridiculous, you know? I mean, I live,
that's how I live, you know, I live, I'm a, what is that? Toxic, toxic, toxic optimism guy. That's
me. So I'm always there. So I just live there. I'm just like, yeah, we're in a, we're all in a, what is that? Toxic, toxic, toxic optimism guy. That's me. So I'm always there.
So I just live there.
I'm just like, yeah, we're in a, we're all in a bull.
We're in the middle of a bull market.
You guys just are, you know, you're seeing it wrong.
No, I love it, man.
That's the pharmacist in you, bro.
You're used to like knowing how shitty the real world is and dealing with people.
And like, this isn't anything.
Yeah.
The medical world. It's, it's the oasis't anything yeah the medical world's uh it's
it's the oasis yeah no that's that's a good point man that's a good point doc yeah we uh we get to
that point where it's just like you know you know it's all good we're gonna we're gonna survive but
you know to your point kevin like i think yes uh, the last week has been definitely questionable. I. But I'm like, man, I mean,
I don't know. I'm in my forties. So I'm like, we've been through this so many times. Like,
like, yes, we're on the brink of war every day. You're like, you know, it's like every day there's
like chicken at the fan. Right. But like, um, it seems like things are tampering, you know,
tempering down, like, okay, we're moving back to, back to business. What I'm excited about, Kevin, is I'm going to be buying a house probably in the next year.
I'd say calendar year.
I'm going to be buying a home in dimes.
I'm going to go to my bank.
I'm going to be like, hey, guys.
Hey, guys.
So I'm ready to buy a house.
I've been a homeowner before, and it's a pain in the ass.
It takes forever.
But now, you've seen that, right? house uh you know i've been a homeowner before and it's a pain in the ass takes forever but now
like you've seen that right like um they moved fannie mae and all that shit like they're they're
going for it man they're gonna make crypto you know uh an asset that can be you know uh they
can back real estate right help you buy a house so yeah i'm gonna be the first person to buy a
house and dimes i'm i'm i love it i love it. I mean, look, man, I will tell you.
I mean, I think probably a lot of people in the space has already known this because just by the virtue of everybody being here.
But there is a huge shift that's happened, right?
I mean, think about it, right?
2015, 16, we were crazy gamblers, right?
We were just like hunting new tech.
And then 17, 18,
19, it was like, okay, adoption was starting to happen. More people were starting to talk,
but all of the traditional finance people, all the banks I do, I do business with were like,
it's toxic. You know what I mean? And then it's different now. Like I'll just quickly tell you.
So I went to a, um, went to a roots game. I shouldn't say that. I went to. So I went to a Roots game. I shouldn't say that.
I went to a sporting event a couple weeks ago, and I got to hang out with some folks with the ownership group.
And one of the guys there is the husband of this lady in the group.
And I started talking to him.
I'm like, what do you do?
He's like, oh, I'm an attorney.
Oh, okay, cool.
Attorney, who are you with?
He's like, I'm with the SEC.
I'm like, oh, shit, really? I'm just busting his balls or whatever. oh okay cool attorney who you with he's like i'm with the sec i was like oh shit really you know i
was just i just busting his balls or whatever he's like no no no we're i'm in with i'm with
enforcement for for fraud or whatever he's like what do you do and i told him about all the spaces
and my background and restaurants and clubs and stuff and then i started talking my crypto and he
was like oh you're in the crypto space and i was like yeah you know it's and we kind of talked
about the journey he's like well you guys are loving it now and i was like, yeah, you know, it's, and we kind of talked about the journey. He's like, well, you guys are loving it now. And I was like, what do you mean? Cause Gary's out. He's like,
well, yeah, I mean, Gary's out and Paul, Paul's in now and Paul's, you know, he wants a bunch of
wins, blah, blah, blah. He's like, but there's a shift. There's a big shift that's happened now.
I'm like, tell me more. And he's like, look, it's not, it's not a hidden secret. He's like,
it's over, it's a wrap, right? The cat's out of the bag. And so I don't know, for me,
when I have these kinds of conversations and then, you know, like I was saying earlier, like small,
mid-Atlantic, just small regional banks are starting to look at it and go, okay, cool. We'll
look at all your assets now. We'll include all your crypto holdings when we're putting together
these deals. That's the signal, right? Like I can't speak to all the altcoins and all of that, you know, that's, there's gotta be a ton of liquidity and you know
about all that. I don't, but as far as just the general framework of getting new money to come
and build in the space, I mean, we're there, we're there regardless of what happens in the
next couple of months. I mean, the years to come are going to be great. Yeah, I got a person that I know.
I can't say how I know them because they have NDAs and whatnot,
but may have mentioned something to the effect of a bank that you'd be –
it's actually surprising because it's not a huge –
it's not like everybody would know a bank, but it's a name that you'd be like, oh, okay.
But they are exploring launching a stable coin which is crazy
to me like just when I heard that I was like huh so some of these some of these
people not only are they looking at like you know doing you know different types
of sort of like investment vehicles or whatever but you know we obviously I
mentioned the thing about you know the the federal, you know, we obviously, obviously I mentioned the thing about, you know, the, the federal government, you know, looking at ways to, um, you know, to support
buying a home and crypto and all that, like, that's huge.
But like now banks, like trying to get in on the stable coin thing, like, that's crazy
to me.
Like, um, I feel like in the next, you know, what do we, you mentioned, you were talking
about 2017.
I bet a lot of these people in the space and I'm not, I know some of you guys have been around
for a long time in crypto,
but there's some people that are like,
damn, that guy's been around forever.
Because that really is, like, you think about, like,
the history of crypto and, like, sort of the heyday
and, you know, how long we've all been around.
If you've been in it for, like, more than five years,
you're definitely an OG in my opinion.
But yeah, like, think about five years from now.
Like, all of us in this space right
now there's like 20 or 30 people in here uh in five years like the the way that this whole thing
works like technology in general and like the speed and acceleration of how this is moving like
think about where we're gonna be like this it's gonna be a lot of fun, man. Look, everything you own, everything you own of value, right, will be programmable and you will have fully, all of that value, right, will be accessible to you.
So whether it's something obvious like your home, the deed of your home, right?
Like to go pull, I don't know the data, the number, but the majority of Americans, by and large, the asset they have,
the value they do own is in their home. And so how do they tap into that, right? That process
is so cumbersome to pull value out of your home. When that's on chain, you know, it's going to be
the press of a button. It's going to be like, you're at eight, you're on eight, you know, and then take it away from your home and look at whether it's your,
your car, auto, and now look at your, your insurance policies, right? All of your insurance
policies. And I'll say you're a business and you want to, we look at your workers' comp insurance,
right? Just everything that's holding value, all of that, you're talking entire sectors being
disrupted by this. And it's a beautiful
thing, man, because it's going to, you know, and that's why banks, I'm sure you saw this last bill,
you know, they passed it. That was great, right? On the stable coin bill. But like, we can't take
a part of that, that yield, right? And banks, that's, you know, banks stepped in and that's
some consideration they had to do to get
the bill to pass. But it's like, fuck man, the banks are trying to catch up, you know? Cause
I mean, I'm sure you you're close enough. You see what Coinbase is, is farming out of circle.
I mean, that's nuts, you know? So it's like, it's, I don't know. You, you know me well enough. I'm,
I'm kind of rambling now, but it's, it's super bullish because the tech is real and it's going to free a lot of people. It's going to free a lot of us. I mean, all these YouTubers, all these folks on Instagram where their value is tied up there, that shit's going to be digitized. That's going to be programmable. That's going to be on chain. know so it's like it's crazy man i'm i'm looking forward to it imagine
like you know like how you can leverage your current mortgage to go get more houses uh imagine
if you like leverage your mortgage for like just to like straight up degen instead uh i think i think that's gonna be
fun you know i'm looking forward to it man i and look what chain do you guys think it's gonna be
on i i can see it being on base because of coinbase and i mean like you know you got robin
hood and them getting into uh mortgages and stuff and i think i think coinbase
and robin hood are damn near identical uh you know robin hood is what coinbase sort of wants to be
on the stock side and coinbase is sort of what robin hood wants to be on the crypto side one of
them is going to figure it out i'm putting my money on coinbase because i'm a biased i'm in
crypto uh so i, who knows?
Like, mortgages will eventually come to base.
And if you can leverage that shit or, like, you know, take it out to go put it on, like, some dumb meme coin, like, the bankers are going to have a fucking field day.
So it's going to be interesting.
My personal belief is Coinbase is going to eat Wells Fargo.
It is going to eat Bank of America.
You know, I don't know the average age in this space is here, but I mean, anybody under 25,
who are they going to want to bank with? Right. They're going to want to bank Coinbase. They're
not going to bank with Wells Fargo, JP Morgan. You know what I mean? And then, and they're
comfortable. Like young folks are comfortable with digital assets. They understand it. They're comfortable with digital wallets. So now, so Coinbase, if you just, if you just step
