Say what the fuck it was funny
And this pumpkin bro was funny
Was go was go was go was go was good. Look, I
Ain't nobody laughing cuz ain't shit funny. Look I said it's every space
We actually do have a lot to talk about today
The title of space is fucking fucking stop laughing. I'm not I'm not talking to you. I'm laughing
There's a lot of space beanie is not coming
But being did do a space yesterday
Cuz I leap to it instead we got fucking beanie news. We got fucking bow howla we got Jupiter
We got a lot of shit to talk about today. So
If you want to talk about it, come get your ass on stage. We're gonna talk about it in the meantime in
The meantime, I'm gonna play a quick little intro song and we're gonna get into it
So look as always as always if you would like to speak hit that request button
I probably will not let you up, but it is in fact your best chance right now
I'm back when I'm back to you in a minute
We got a lot to talk about today. Go get spicy. If you guys have a week-ass take leave those shit in the audience
Fuck is guys you crypto Twitter mother fuckers. Oh my god. We are back
I say this every day, but I mean it today better than app. So I mean it every day fuck that
I mean it every day and but I really fucking mean it today because we got a lot to talk about today
We got a lot to get into today
There's a lot that happened in the past 24 hours, I'm not gonna lie. We've got a little fucking hectic it got a little crazy. I
All right, I got called out by fucking beanie for not starting the night space I've a here's the reality situation
It's like all right. I've been talking to this enough for a decent amount
We've been going back and forth back and forth. I like beanie and I'm not afraid to say I like beanie
I think he's really fucking smart. He's made more people more money than most people in this space
It's just like an objective fact and a guy has some good takes. Okay guys some good take
Yes, I'm a really bad take but at least he has fucking taste. Okay, at least he has takes
I'm taught like the guy has takes he has commentary that you people read whether you want to or not
He has content that we pin up to the top of this fucking space and we read it because it's entertaining
It stirs the pot it gets people going as provocative
I don't know what the purpose is, but we fucking throw it up there. We read it the guy's good takes
So I fucking engage the baby. Of course. I engage with beanie
How did this even start yesterday? I don't even I don't even remember how it started actually
But he made some tweet about trying to do a space or yada yada yada
I actually don't even know how it started
I gotta look back on my receipts
But I called him out because somebody asked and they were like, oh like
What are you gonna do a tell-all on thread guys face or whatever?
And I replied to it and I was like he this is pisses me off. This is pissing me off
I replied to it and I was like the MF
I won't do it because I've been trying to get him on this space for like ever
Just to do like a one-on-one and I gave him like an eight-hour window
For the past like three months come anytime in this eight-hour window
We can do it and he'll always like he'll just like call me at some like random obscure time
Be like go live in five minutes. I'm like, dude, I can't go live in five minutes
like what you have a ten-hour window my dude like picks from shit in there and let's run it and
So he posted some thing yesterday. I got to find it now and
Someone was like when tell all on thread guys face or whatever. So I replied to it
I was like a some effort won't do it. I kind of walked into it to be fair
I fully walked into it because then he's like alright pussy like ten minutes start a space and I here's my thing is
It wasn't even that late to be fair like PST time. It was like seven or eight o'clock maybe but like
Like I work with leap and leave does the night space and leave was doing the night space
And I knew if I started this beanie because he was pressing me
He's like do it right now
Like this will get no more numbers and then you have any space you've done
Like who the fuck do you think you are thread guy trying to give me time? He was going off
He was going off. I was getting called out in public and I was ready to do the space
But I'm looking out. I'm like five bro
Like I don't I work with leave leave does a nice face
Like I gotta give him the space and so leave leave tagged him and was like, you know
Be to get the fuck in here. And so he joined leave space. I actually think we did a good job
I actually think we did a really good job. The space was fucking chaos though. It was actual chaos
And I'm gonna just be honest
Beanie fucking lost his mind. I don't know if he's in here at an altar something listening
He lost it dude, like he it got fucking I feel like the first like hour was just like
Leaping him going back and forth talking about, you know, say and showing all this bullshit sui aptos
Whatever just talking about the normal beanie shill
Then leave start letting people up
Letting people up dude and
You know, I really like his bando bando is one of the best for days is a brando or bando
He's one of the best for days like by far by far
What are the best for days every time he goes on stage?
The guy like has some shit to say that I like or at least he has some shit to say and you know
I've realized you don't have realized after doing these fucking spaces over and over and over again
I really do not care if your take is right or wrong
I just like want like the people who have takes it doesn't matter if it's fucking right or wrong
There's like such a low percentage of people that actually have takes that actually have some shit to say out of their mouth
And that I'm effort does without the bando, but bro, he likes to which the stage from like one-on-one AMA
to like community space questions at beanie and
Bro, it got fucking heated. I mean it got absolutely heated someone pinned this thread
Here's the thing. Here's what I'll say. Here's the reason I didn't want to do this space last night is because
We I could have started it. We could have hopped on we could have had like a fun
We could have basically had that play out one-to-one
Have a fun space for an hour that have people come up that don't really have any context press him on on allegations
But none of any facts he's I mean, he's sharp. He's a really good speaker
He's fucking you're not gonna just like waltz into a fucking debate with that guy and win
Without some real facts and real receipts and it's kind of that's what happened
It's like people like ran up there with some tweets just bits and pieces of information
Firing accusations Adam and he just fucking I mean he moon walks right around those motherfuckers gritting in the end zone
Like Justin Jefferson, I mean, he he was running laps around motherfuckers running laps around people on stage
Seriously, they were trying because here's the thing they were trying and they had receipts but they didn't have it like organized
They couldn't really structure and frame the questions and he was just dancing fucking victory laps around people. So in my head, I'm like, all right
Yes. Yes. This is someone I have discourse with yes
We go back and forth and yes, we could host a fun space right now
It could be fun pressing a little bit whatever it is
But if I'm gonna do the beanie space like a one-on-one
I sort of have a responsibility in my opinion to like do it
Right, and I feel like that means I got to come with like record fucking shit prepared
Like I gotta like come with fucking threads and questions and and get him get it, right
I'm just like this is it just like doesn't age particularly well when you doll
So I was like no motherfucker. I'm not gonna do this face in five minutes
If you want to join leap see like go join leap. He did again. I think leap did a good job
I genuinely do he's a tough interview like he is he's a tough interview because he's like a really intellectually
Just like skilled with the way that he dances around conversations. He can really spar with people like he you're not gonna just like
Honestly, I think he was lit too. He was that was like the time he was lit. He was angry. He was fired up
He was drinking a don or something the 1942. He was sipping on something
Absolutely some pina coladas whatever he was loose. He was lit. He was ready to get after it
He was fucking firing at people. He's cussing people shut the fuck up dead like he was going at people yesterday
Okay, that was a fucking time. He was going at people, but you're not gonna just like
Walls in in just like catch him in a corner. You know what I'm saying
So like that was part of the problem with these like people will come on stage and try to corner him with these threads
And he's like, did you read the thread? They're like, well, no, I don't say okay
Well, how are you gonna come here and try to get someone on a specific point? You haven't read the thread?
You know what I'm saying? So I don't know it was entertaining. I'll fucking tell you what it was entertaining
I had I I was trying to watch a movie last night
I had to literally stop the movie and just like I didn't well
I didn't watch the movie because I had a two-hour window two hours to watch this movie
I spent the first like 50 to an hour just like listening to this space. Yeah, it was it was pretty entertaining
It was pretty fucking entertaining. It's been a while since I've seen like a thousand concurrent in a space
And I think we have to do the beanie space. I just want to do it, right?
I just genuinely want to do it, right and I feel like like I
He's someone that I have like friendly discourse with like genuinely so my talk to that's questions
I have friendly discourse too, but if we're gonna do a one-on-one interview like brother, you're in the hot seat
There's no like there's no other way around it if we're gonna do this fucking interview
You're in a hot seat. It has to be that like it has to be it has to be a one-on-one
I'm not bringing people on stage and it has to be like you got to respond to these fucking allegations line by line
Like yes, we're going through all 72 lines in the fucking monkey bed thread
And we're going line by fucking line by line by line. You're in a hot seat 60 minutes style
There's no other way around it
And until I can get that it has to be a scheduled space
I'm sorry until he loves doing this shit calls me like he'll start in five minutes. Fuck that
I'm not starting in five minutes
If you really want to do the tell-all you would you would you would give me 24 hours in advance
We would schedule the space proper
We would let people come proper at a normal fucking time and we would run the space
The reality is he doesn't really want to do the space. He doesn't really want to do the space
He wants to just like jump on someone's stage and get the fucking the free the free mic
Say what he wants view the bullshit. He doesn't really want to do the space because even in leap shit last night
The second anybody comes with some actual points. He starts squirming around like a goddamn earthworm
Okay, so I know you're listening to this fucking space on alt somewhere beanie you want the proper interview
I will give you the proper interview
But you gotta stop ducking and weaving out of shit schedule this 24 hours in advance like a fucking normal person
And let's do it properly because here's the reality situation beanie you and I both know
You both know you need this space because you want to fucking tell the story tell your side
Whatever of it cleanly and nobody else is going to give you the clean whistle, bro
You know, I don't have I don't have nefarious intentions. I'm not how you're out here to bury anybody
But you need to get a clean whistle or fair space somewhere with someone that is going to be fucking prepared
Not going to have the community bozos on stage. Whatever it is
Come fucking send me a dm. Let's do it proper. Let's do the real interview
Get your ass in the fucking hot seat
And let's run it because that's what the people want reality and like yes
People want to hear you like give your takes give alpha market analysis, whatever
But the reality is like people this is what people want. This is what you want as well
Um, so miss me with this five minute 10 minutes from that bullshit
Let's schedule like a normal fucking person 24 hours in advance and let's run this space. That's my beanie take
It was entertaining. I'll tell you what I I don't enjoy spaces
I really don't sometimes I like scroll the audience and I judge you people that listen
Sometimes I judge you people that listen. I'm like, man, how do you do like, how do you do it?
Um, but that space last night that was one for the ages. Um, so sad to leave
Shout out to beanie. Tell us whatever it is. Um
I kind of want to go really quickly. I got a lot of things to talk. I want to go to q though real quick
Q did you listen to that space last night? What do you think?
Yeah, how you doing thread guy? I did and I mean there was two two or three things about that space last night
You know, the fact of the matter is like he kind of you know tweeted you and you know, try to get
Get you and I think it was really it was really cool that you
Gave the space to leap and even when you came in later
And he was getting ready to leave
And then he saw you and you know, he was going to hang around for a little bit more because you were there
Um, you didn't go up on the stage and you gave the space to um, leap but what I would say
Think bando was really good. And I mean even bando by his own admission
didn't have the questions but
Was not letting him off the hook because alan has waited two years
For this and alan has gone through
Um all those 72 points and alan said listen beanie. Let's start from point 21
Right and go to 26 and then beanie's kind of asking him. How old are you?
How old are you and you know alan said look it's not about my age
Yeah, but how old are you? I mean, you know, he's telling beanie look stop deflecting stop the platitudes
Let's just get down to the facts address
Um, how long have you been in the space? How long have you been in the space?
You know, so beanie's really
You know clever at doing stuff like that and then you've got guys like um, is his name?
Well, anyway, just in general a lot of people, you know, i've only got to know beanie
The last six months now, you know handle my heart
Yes, I just like him from pixel days
From you know, you could always ask him a question. He's super smart. I mean with pixel vote
They were the first to bring um
With nft's, you know, they were there with g money
Who else was there? Uh, um adidas, you know all those kind of things
Um, uh, he was you know, very innovative in and you know
he would have spaces like you actually and have a like a thousand people 600 or 700 and you'd learn a lot from him but
You know you're saying when you and today's put out a thread
Those 72 points. I kind of read it once
I didn't even read it. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't even read it
But that's the thing again, you know, it was a little bit unfair on leap as well because
um, you know leap just got into the space and
You know leap hadn't you know had enough time to do his research on whatever it is
And so I you know was it was a good space and it was a good space in that, you know, bando and alan together
You know really wanted to stick to the points and get him to address
Yeah, um, I enjoyed it. Yeah, i'm i'm done talking
Yeah, I think it's fair take
I think that's when when the mf forgot got though when he started someone asked him a question and be like
Well, what have you built hit it when when you hit someone with the like, what have you built?
That's when you know, you you got the mf in a corner
Look, I think you're right. There's some people that that did a really good job
They didn't have the questions prepared
Maybe maybe it's on me. I should have been ready for the space months ago with the threads ready to go questions ready to go
I just wasn't and I feel like it's
You just like test yourself off for failure. Listen, let me ask you a question. He said to leap
right when leap told him that
You guys used to live together and whatever it is
And then he said oh you you know, you would have heard my cards with um thread guy
So what was he always calling you? Were you guys always talking? I mean unlike him. So there was
I'd say at the beginning of the space like I have a relationship with him. It isn't like he's not my best friend
We don't have a daily daily discourse, but he's a fucking smart guy
And I we I talk to him about things he talks to me about things like we we have a like we have a discourse
Like a public discourse, right which we have each other have a timeline. Whatever it is
I like making what here's what i'll say
Here's i'll say is if you started nfts in like i'm not like justifying this or comment on threads
I'm just staying broadly if you were in nfts 2020 2021
And you were sort of like new just figuring shit out, you know wide-eyed trying to figure out what's what?
More likely than not you learned a fuck ton from metamapper
Like you just you just objectively did you learned it from beanie because he knew shit. He had he has loud he's loud
He's loud takes you can't really run from those takes and the reality situation is pixel vault was the biggest project in the space
For like a long for a while that you said
Invented the the burning and sticking you're kind of right like it
Pixel vault was doing shit that nobody else was doing at the very very very early his days
So like if you were a participant in the space and you were new whether you were new or old irrelevant
You were fucking following what they were doing because they were doing cool shit
They really were and I mean we could go down the pixel vault rabbit hole
But the vibe had completely changed the second beanie stepped away whether it was justified or not
I mean look he also fucking made a tweet yesterday
Oh, he cried himself sleep cried himself to sleep for months after he got bought out from pixel vault
But he literally got bought out at the pico pico pico pico pico top
With from what I understand is a fucking massive back like massive back
But but he won't admit that last night he was saying how could you say that was the top?
You know, we still had more to go
Didn't he get like a hundred million and some whatever you look you said the number not me is kind of where i'm at with it
The numbers are locked from what I understand a fucking lot a lot a large a large sum of united states dollars
Hit those pockets at what was basically the pico top like if we look at
I mean look here's i'll save some of it. But here's here's the last thing i'm going to say on the beanie thing is
If you remember if you remember too
The thread that led to the pixel vault like breakup
Was written from an account called nft ethics if you go look at an account called nft ethics
You'll see the nft ethics had literally like two threads. It's anonymous
Like justice account that had like two threads written ever in the history of the account
Which was created like a month prior from the beanie thread
Nft ethics is an elaborate scheme as beanie to dock himself cancel himself and get bought out by pixel vault at the top
But I am saying there's a non-zero chance that that is the case. Okay, i'm saying there's a non-fucking zero chance
That's the case. I believe that shit in my heart. I have from day one
Um, the nlfers climb himself to sleep in a g wagon. I I just want the proper space
I just want to wait. Hold on in advance. I just want the proper space. Um, atari. What's up?
Sorry, did you did you say the nft ethics only published two threads? Uh
Prior to the beanie there is not many posts from that account. Oh, okay. Okay fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
I thought you meant in general because no
You'll also notice you honestly fucking scroll nft ethics if you haven't because here's what you notice
You'll notice like zero posts basically zero a couple weak ass threads prior to the beanie
Thread which is like this massive super in-depth receipts receipts receipts receipts receipts
And then afterwards it goes back to like
The doxxing the most random irrelevant mindless bullshit like oh
Oh shiny smoked weed in college once there's no shiny thread in there
It's the most ridiculous egregious shit i've ever read in my life
Genuinely the most ridiculous shit i've ever read in my life
All i'm saying there's a non-zero chance that nft ethics is one of the alt accounts beat check
I'm rambling. I gotta make sure I get to you a little bit here before we go too deep into anything
Beat check did you get a chance to listen or follow or keep up with any of this beanie shit that was going on yesterday?
I didn't listen to it last night
I caught a little bit of it this morning as I was writing the snapshot
I only listened to the bit though, which you said was pretty nice. Like I thought leap
Uh was doing a great job like seemed really peaceful. So I clearly missed all of the drama
Uh after which is pretty funny
Um, so yeah, I I think I think I've got two two takes on this
One and this is with my my lawyer hat on for people who don't know I used to be a lawyer. I used to be a litigator
Uh, so I would do specifically litigation where people come with their like particulars of claim
And they want to go after someone and then you know, you get a chance to respond and then the other person has to respond
So i'm i'm i'm coming with my defense
lawyer hat on in this respect because you mentioned at the nft ethics account thread
And the first thing that I always thought even like back at the time
I thought what kind of account caused themselves?
Why would you like what person would take on all of the kind of gravitas of that account?
kind of assume all the authority that comes with that like
Who who would think that that would be an appropriate thing to do as you said?
Two weak threads before and then you think you can drop something and everyone's supposed to just believe you now
I appreciate they might have come with some receipts in there
But you can't just call yourself nft ethics like it's not
It's not you know, you've got to earn that earn that name if anyone's going to do that, right? So that's my first point
The second thing is like when when you do this type of investigation
And I appreciate the point q was making that someone was maybe asking some questions and beanie was like, well, you know
Who are you like? Who are you? I don't need to answer these questions. Like when you do these types of investigations
You have to like present everything in one go and give a person the chance to like come back in in in entirety
and yeah, maybe beanie hadn't done that up to this point, but
I do think to some extent like it's been a long time now and
I don't necessarily think that he needs to respond
To to like random people in the community who have some axe to grind at some point
It's like yeah fine. You might you might want to ask about points 23 to 27
But maybe he doesn't need to respond to those anymore
And I think at some point in time people have to just decide like look
Are you gonna draw a line under this stuff or are you not?
Because there were other people look and I know people will get upset about this and it's funny
He said that you think you're going to be able to not talk about beanie
After this you said like oh you don't want to talk like they're already hands. Like we're going to be talking about this
Yeah, it's funny that you think we're gonna not but like the point is
At some point in time people need to decide like look, are you gonna let it go now?
He doesn't need to respond to everything. He's not going to respond to everything. This is not a
It's just the court of public opinion
And in the end realistically, do you really think in your mind that after he answers your point 23 to 26?
Are you going to be content because i've got a feeling and because there were other people involved with various things at time
The people who are kind of like hell bent against him are just hell bent against him whether or not
What answer he gives is okay or not? And then there are people who are more
Moderate and just like, you know, you know, you know, he's fine. He's got some good takes whatever's in the past
I think that was a fair take and here I don't know fuck for fuck's sake or we might spend the whole space on beanie
Here's my favorite part about beanie though
Listen to that guy talk especially get pressed if he's a fucking loose cannon because beanie knows a lot about a lot
Especially like dirt on people and shit. So here's part of the problem
This is I think it's just like part of the social politics of the space out. Wait, you're saying he's a fucking snitch
Did I say that at any point? No, uh, I said he fucking knows a lot about a lot and he's a loose cannon, okay
There's a loose cannon is that is that not a fair observation the guy's a loose cannon
sometimes he knows a lot about a lot and I think there's there's definitely people that like
Have information per se on some of these threads could go deep and go technical but bro people
I feel afraid to go on stage without an effort. They are they genuinely are
Um, they're they're afraid to
Is that why did you say that because leaf kicked everyone off stage to do the interview?
I know and he did a good job. I love me
But now I wanted to ask him questions
So I didn't really listen the thing I respect a lot about him is that he comes from tradfi
Like myself and we do a lot of call options and stocks and liver stuff
So he is a very smart guy. I will agree with you
But I fucking miss the whole interview because I was like if again ask him questions, like what's the point?
Well, good thing that motherfuckers recorded
I'll tell you what you don't have to miss anything ever again with the introduction of the record button
Uh, here's here's all right. Here's my theory though. Here's my actual tin foil hat theory is um, nfc ethics account gets created
No one's ever heard of it. No one knows what it is and btech's right who the fuck calls themselves nft ethics and ironically nobody right?
I mean what the I mean what what the hell's going on there?
Everybody in the space is on the sideline
It was almost similar to like a chilling villain situation where it was like
Beanie was like raining terror over the social layer of web3
There's like a fuck ton of people that really hated him
But secretly because you couldn't publicly hate him because you would just get annihilated
And they were just like waiting just like waiting
For the thing the moment the armor to crack and for like a moment where they could just like pile in right and so beanie
Is in this is my is my theory. I'm just gonna I'll share with him when he gets here too
Beanie's running through the pixel vault pixel vault just raised at like a billion dollar valuation a fuck ton of money
I don't remember exactly the details top of the market 2021 early 2022 like pico pico pico top
This nfc ethics account comes out of nowhere. They drop like two weak ass threads weak ass gpts threads prior
Then they drop the entire beanie expose, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing is that
The space the participants were looking for literally anything to just like turn on that amount anything
To turn on him. It didn't matter what it was how it was done what it said what it contained
They just needed something to like justify
Bringing out the pitchforks because I feel like people are scared to bring out the pitchforks
So I was like if you're gonna bring him out
You've got to make sure your neighbor to the left and the right also bring them out
So you're not the last one naked holding the pitch for and so you drop this thread, right?
Well, let's just say let's just like let's just like say it was that mf or he's running the account
because you drop the thread you get to um
What's the word you get to like manipulate and carve and craft the story your way you can tell your story, right?
Even from the expose account
You can tell your story put it in your words the way you want people to digest it
Throw it out there have the entire mob turn on you everybody in cg turns on you but turns on you in a way that you want
A way that you like welcomed in
And then boom top of the market picks a vault you get bought out because this expose thread and everybody turned on you
You get your your top of the market valuation. You're out you fuck off. You never have to do anything again
Um, you move to the bahama
Whatever it is. You go party with spf
You fucking shut down the ethics account because who needs the nft ethics account and then you're free. You're fucking scott free
That's my tinfoil hat. Um, I've told him it many times. I've told him many times you're an ethics. I know it
He won't he will not confirm it. Um, but I know I know it. It's just not getting past me. Um,
Let's do this. I'm throwing it to bongo. I'm throwing it to yogi
And I we actually have actual things that matter to talk about. Um, so we're gonna get into them in a minute
Let's go baby. What's going on? You listen to leave space last night
My brother in christ, of course
Not I didn't listen to any of that because we have the biggest airdrop
Of the year tomorrow and we have one of the biggest mint on btc and you're talking about fucking beanie matzi
We need to move on try guy. Come on now
Let the passing dude beanie matzi doodles and whatever other bullshit you were talking about last week. I mean
Look forward my boy. Look forward. There's a lot of things ahead of us. I have an interview to do with doodles tomorrow
Um if they show up uh tomorrow at six
And actually actually it's not going to be open. So that is what it is
Um, shout out to doodles. Uh, we we can get we can get it out in a minute. All right
Look, what is this? What is this? I swear are you getting the yupeter airdrop?
What the fuck you mean? I get in the jubilee. What the fuck I look like bongo, of course
Um, you you know, you can sell right now for point seven
I'm you you think I got fucking you think i'm a bitch. I think I got paper hands bongo
What point should I give you the top point seven is bud
This is what we're gonna do actually this is what we're gonna do we're throwing two more hands
If you want to comment on the title, you can comment on it
Then we're moving on because I I mean delight howard's rugging project about how is dropping keyboard. I mean we got shit to talk about
Okay, yogi. I'm throwing it to you. I'm throwing it to Atari. We're moving on yogi. What is good
Did you listen to leap space? What'd you think about it? What do you think of my theory? What what the fuck is going on?
Dude, yeah, I good to see you. Uh, did the uh, the space last night could have been like I think my big thing
Beanie obviously did some bad shit. I don't think that like I think nfc ethics was a hit job, dude
Their threads after that thread were so bad
And how what like how they've done it like there it was mal and ten going into it
And I don't think like they did like they showed truth and they fabricated the story they wanted to
And the sad thing for most twitter people are like we can't really
Separate the two out and all the details that took place. I'm not saying beanie's a good guy
He had some great fucking ideas. Uh last bill like he was an influencer that actually knew something about like
Marketing and psychology of how people operate not saying that we endorse him or do xyz
However, we do need to take the facts for how they are and we need a proper interview
And the one thing I was annoyed about last night is that people
Are talking over each other like think about if you guys held a space with nixon 40 years ago
That shit would have been so bad. There is an art form
To like, you know, this guy's done some shit
He can't get around certain facts. There are literally screen charts and hard evidence and some of his, you know track record
But let's stick to the story as it is today
And talk about those points and reel the conversation in and so
I think if you end up doing a space with mtg have no one up on stage
If you have anyone have one person
That understands like his background and the facts and like you need to know the shit you're getting into. Yeah, so
That is like my big thing like dude
I've unfollowed nfc ethics because at one point they said that the entire azuki team was the same person and it was just like
They had some like garbage ass threads
So that's kind of like my thought process on beating. I don't remember what he exactly rugs
Like at this point it's been back of mind like wolf gay made me a ton of money. Fantastic. Thank you
Uh, but you know beyond that
You know keep replaying the same story. Like where do we go from here and then bongo to your point?
Uh, did bongo leave fuck? I don't see him anymore. But like dude, it was such a mid
Oh, no, there you are. Uh, you're like you don't forget old projects
Dude, because people that actually kept building in the bear are gonna do really well
So that was the very mid take just wanted to call that out tg
Um, okay. Here's what i'll say is I damn
I loved the fucking one of my favorite arcs in crypto ever was the benny's bitboy arc because I love those interviews, dude
I love those interviews so much. I want to get back to it. I'm trying to get alex win right now
Um for the the bow how exclusive if you get alex lynn like you should get like a like he left every group chat
He he's literally what radio silent?
Uh, here's here's what we need is we need the fucking malek in tg special again
Because benny that motherfucker was shook like a mob deep during that space. We need to run that shit back
Um that that that that's a scary duo right there
I'm just gonna say it because he come with the facts and and the legal that was a
A very here's here's one quick point to that, right?
I like ben eath literally took 20 million that you guys voluntarily sent to his address on a twitter like on a tweet
And here we are trying to figure out how much beanie rugged this space when he was
Normally bought out on whatever like pixel vault like whatever the fuck that was like a lot of that stuff like it's just
Mind-boggling the double standard we have
um, I I think this is the here's the last thing i'll say i'll throw it to tari and then we're gonna talk about how
Dwight howard rubbed everyone
part of the problem is like
He made a lot of people a lot of fucking money
I mean, why does pauli still have an audience? I'm not saying beanie's pauli
Why does pauli still have an audience because he fucking makes people money rugs him cold-blooded, but he still makes some money
And once you've like made people money, you're kind of like indebted
For like subconsciously sort of like forever you're indebted low-key
And the way that you like approach these people the way you talk to them the way you act around them
I tend to feel like if you were in nfts in 2021 and you even like followed the the mf
Or with the green background and the beanie crypto punk. He probably made you some fucking money
So it also makes I think some of these conversations a little bit more difficult because people have obtained a judgment
Atari last hand on the beanie thing. We're moving on what's good and everyone's going on. What do you make of this?
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of great takes across the board. I thought that last night
Was very jerry springer esque. It was it was a shit show
I wish I wish leap wasn't eating pizza hut and uh unmuted and tried to uh, take control of the space because I think
You know some people tried but I think things devolved so quickly
I i'm starting to feel that like these twitter spaces are is not the best medium for
um for whatever it is investigative journalism, I think back to
Even the lucas space with the I forget the guy's name, but that was just like
It's there's a weird thing where you have two people up on stage or even if there's five people up on stage
And then you have like a thousand people and you can see it as a thousand people and you're just speaking into a phone
It's it's weird. I'm not sure if like
investigative journalism or like what b-check said, uh, it's not the court of law it's the court of public opinion and i'm not sure if like
Like a twitter space interview where you have all your points and leave feeling convinced
I just i'm not sure if it's the best medium for it last thing we'll say is the um, I think the uh
Like you said they had two mid
Threads they had a beanie one that went crazy
I I really agree with the thread guy when you said that a lot of people were waiting for the cracks in the armor
So they could go for the jugular because I really think that's what happened whether it's beanie or not
I'm not going to comment on that. I have no idea but
Every thread afterward the nfc ethics did was
pretty like it was shoddy journalism writing whatever we want to call it and
I'm reminded of like, uh, there's a thing called the gel man amnesia effect and I think that's
That's something that we might want to take. Uh as we look at what's what he wrote about
Beanie so the the the effect is essentially you open up a newspaper and i'm just reading the definition
You open up the newspaper to an article and a subject you know, well in my example, it is biology
You read the article and you see that the journalist has absolutely no understanding
Of either the facts or the issues at all and often the article is so wrong
It actually presents a story backwards reversing cause and effect an example would be
wet streets cause rain stories
So you read that and you're like wow, this person has no idea what they're talking about then you turn the page
And it's maybe it's national international affairs and you start reading the rest of the newspaper
And somehow you think that that story but written by that journalism is completely accurate
The only difference is that you just don't have full context of what's happening in that space to know whether things are accurate or not
With nft ethics with so many of their threads being so shoddy
I'm not saying the receipts that they brought against beanie were weren't factual
All i'm saying is there's probably a lot of context we're missing in all of this and given how shoddy
Um the rest of his threads or their threads were i'm not sure I put that much stock into
Into that original thread that you know went nuclear and made them a star for like a hot minute
So I just that's what I what I was thinking about that the whole night
I'm like, yeah, like what we're basing this whole mob off of I just don't know if
If that's really like the the best source because they've had really shitty threads most of their threads are really shitty
What how do we know beanies isn't really shitty as well? How do we know?
I think it's I think it's fair. I think it's a good take. Um, make some interesting points are atari
Like here's here's the last thing i'm gonna say. Here's the final thing i'm gonna say on it beanie
Beanie fucking maxi is the final thing i'm gonna say on it is you need someone to post you proper
You need a proper space so we can address these fucking allegations and move on with our goddamn life beanie
This is my one public offer. I will give you that stage. I will give you that whistle
It will be myself probably a lawyer of some kind and nobody else just you and fucking me
Let's run the space. Let's get this shit over with let's give you the proper stage and then let's move
The fuck on none of this 10 minutes from now is shit
None of this start in 15 minutes 24 hours in advance. Let the fucking people
Let the fucking people know what's coming. Let them set the reminders. Let them make their popcorn
Okay, let them get their fucking snacks and candy and in cotton candy and in soda out in preparation
And let's run the space like some fucking grown men
Um, because here's the thing that going on this space tell people to shut the fuck. It's not a good look, dude
It's not a good look, you know it. I know you have this like edgy persona
It's not a good luck to be on there screaming shut the fuck up to people asking people what have they built yet it
You know it isn't I definitely know what it is. I was laughing. Here's what i'll say is is is I I um
I do agree with with atari
You're like, I wish you know leap reeled it in a little bit
My problem is i'm sitting there thinking about what would I do in this scenario?
I was literally on the floor with tears in my eyes. I'm not sure I would have been able to reel it in
I couldn't stop laughing. Um, it's not a good look though, dude. It's not a fucking good look
Um, and let's do it the right way. Let's do it like some grown men. Let's do it the fucking right way
Um, so that's my public offer. That is what it is. I got nothing more to say on the subject matter
Thank you very much. Um, also shout out to alan, but you I swear to god
I had literal grown tears coming out of my eyes yesterday because of you carly
So I very much do appreciate it
I don't even know how to divert the topic from here because I we could I mean I could just go for two hours
On this so i'm going to try my best here
Um, let's just get into the spiciest topic of it. All right Valhalla
We gotta talk about Valhalla, um as well. We gotta talk about Valhalla. We gotta talk about fucking Valhalla
Um, here's the first thing I want to say just like close your eyes think back
You know who was right about Valhalla bro is the lizard the lizard was right about Valhalla
Uh, do you remember does anybody remember this?
When alex shillman villain went to literal war over valhalla pre-ment call
And he got banned for a week
And he never went to literal war with the valhalla community, I don't remember why I don't remember how I don't remember what the context was
We declared war on valhalla
And quite literally went to war to the point where I remember he posted this video this screen grab
On twitter and he had like a thousand new followers
He scrolled and was like clicking random followers every single one with some like a bunch of random words mashed together
Following uh zero followers zero tweets following one person. It was valhalla
It was like it was insane. There was like hundreds of them. It's endless hundreds and hundreds and hundreds to their point to the point
Where the mf forgot his account suspended
And this just still to this day one of the craziest things i've ever seen
He got his account suspended because of valhalla like because directly because of valhalla
Open the discord open the new discord
Invite had like a public invite whatever it is started a discord voice chat and had a thousand
People concurrent in the discord in like 30 minutes right after getting banned from twitter
I'm not gonna lie. It's one of the craziest
Craziest things i've ever seen on this fucking app. It was insane. It was nuts
Um, and those are the very different time and valhalla was like been you know
The azuki killer or whatever it was the next azuki
Whatever it is. Um, all right. I don't have like too too too many thoughts on this
I definitely want to go to some hands and get get some opinions on it. But so
alex blinn made this post
The other day and it was basically
These like mechanical keyboards
Um, that is zuki i'm trying to find the grail tweak because it was really good
Uh, but it basically announced these like 300 maybe it was I think it's 300
These mechanical keyboards and I think the the context as well
I'm, not about how to hold I was actually at one point. I did hold valhalla's
I probably had like five to ten at the most
Um at any given point I think the the the main takeaway here
Is that valhalla has sort of done absolutely nothing like absolutely nothing
Public to my knowledge over the last six months eight months twelve months
I feel like the timelines for their uh the stack the streaming competitor and some of these projects attacked the rolling out
they've just been like kind of uh
Kind of radio silent here. I haven't heard anything about them. The community managers have left yesterday. She's a goat
sugar town actually with um with camel which is pretty fucking wild to see
I can't find the tweet reply at the moment, but grail sort of went fucking off like went parabolic
um on alex in response to this tweet
And he made a long thread. He did an overview. I'm actually trying to get him on a a little one-on-one right now
I think it'll be a sick interview. I think it's an important interview
But the community's in fucking uproar right now
Um, whale swoosh made an interesting tweet. I'm gonna read it out and then i'll go to some hands. I'll also find
The first call on me. Sorry
Here's a whale tweet had an interesting thought today when I read a post about the valhalla debacle on my timeline
I think something you should avoid at all costs as a team of an nft project is shipping a memeable product
Valhalla's keyboard is definitely such a such meme material off the top of my head
Moonbirds fanny packs also come to mind as an example
No matter what else you do as a team in the future a memeable product will always hang
Um, I don't even know like a sword over everything you deliver
Once you have opened the floodgates to ridicule is very difficult to close them again
So a lot of thoughts a lot going on with the hala
I want to ask you a beat check
Is are these fucking keyboards worse than moonbirds fanny packs? Like is that where we're at with this?
Is this the modern day moonbird fanny pack and what do you think about hala?
I don't know. I read that tweet as well
I definitely agree with the fanny pack thing but to think I mean, I don't know is is a keyboard
Memeable like why is the keyboard?
So memeable to make it like such a terrible thing
I appreciate that it seems to be a terrible thing because they because they had way higher expectations
than what this what this is and there were you know promises made and promises kind of broken
So I can see why like look the delta between what we expected and this keyboard is so huge
But I don't know necessarily that the keyboard itself is like exceptionally memeable
But yeah, I don't know. I think there's like a trend at the moment of just
Projects that have raised large amounts of money
Uh disappointing in a big way. So the way we spoke about it in the morning show today was like balhala with this with this particular product
Aof I don't know if you saw the tweet where dingaling that was wild. That was fucking wild
Yeah, dingaling like just dumped and he never does this right?
He's like the people's whale always holds through good and bad like puts complete face in teams
Uh, but was so disappointed with I think it was the community allocation
On the dingaling dump because I saw I saw a lot of comments on this
It's all right. If he's sort of known as the people's whale
Known for you know, essentially bag holding these these large positions to zero or hero
If you're in this position, you have a massive allocation of these nfts. You're frustrated. You're going to dump
Do you think it's like morally unethical?
To dump them then tweet rather than tweet you're going to dump them let people get out or at least give them a window
And then dump if you quite literally do not care about the losses anyways
What so as in let other people get out before you
No, man, like absolutely not like I think
No, I I don't think anyone needs needs to do that in his scenario in particular. He's got such a reputation for being like
Quality holder like someone that you really want in the around and yeah, I appreciate there's going to be collateral damage with something like that
Right, like there will be other people who are holders will think shit
Do you think this dumped everything now i'm completely screwed but at some point in time like
That that's got to be considered fair like he's in general
Been an awesome awesome holder and i'm sure will continue to be I don't think he needs to let other people dump before him
Uh on top of that. Okay. Well, I'll say what if I was the people's whale
Uh, maybe maybe it looks different here. Here's what here's what i'll say as well is um
All right, here's my biggest complaint about the alex thing because the reality is I don't really give a fuck about how low
I really don't and honestly the keyboard looks kind of cool
I could use a new keyboard that has nice click sounds a nice feel I actually wouldn't mind getting one
Here's my genuine like my actual only prop. My only problem with the announcement is the comments off, bro
Here's like one thing i've learned really with with ct
It's like all right. There's a lot of dumbasses in crypto twitter a lot of redacted people a lot of zero iq people
But I tend to think that crypto twitter is fairly good at sniffing out bullshit
And they're absolutely ruthless to any signs of like weakness
Like here here's like that brutal reality
Is I think um, even as it relates to the beanie situation too
Like the mob only comes like the mob only comes for you and wins if you let them win
Like you can only really be canceled on this app if you like accept cancellation
Like you can only be canceled if you accept the fact that you're canceled
And if you're if you don't do so and you just like push back fucking headbutt against headbutt fight fire with fire
But especially in a founder role, especially when your project is down bad
Four prices down if you show like any type of weakness, man, even the smallest i'm not saying this is good
I don't think it's good for mental health anything. I'm just being
Just saying the reality if you show even the slightest bit of fucking weakness
The mob absolutely comes out and comes for your neck
And the comments off in my opinion is like the weakest thing you could do
Because this is like you're not even trying to own it
Like you're not even like if you really fucked up and you felt that you fucked up
And you felt that you made a mistake you would just you would take it on the tent you would take it on the tent
You would let the people attack you you let them get their shit out
Let them get their dunks on you would accept them you would respond to them
You would take feedback where it's needed. You would ignore it where it's not and then you move on and we move on from it
But when you turn the comments off, it's like it's it's almost like it's a bliminal
Fuck you to the people that hold like to the people that hold your project genuinely
Fuck you to people that hold your project because it's quite literally like i'm responding to your criticisms
But I don't really care what you have to say. That's what that means to me. It's like i'm i'm
Attempting to respond to your criticisms, but I really don't care what you have to say
I'm just doing this because I have to like i'm only here so I don't get fined type of energy
And I I do not like that shit because here's here's what i'll say. I tweeted this earlier
I deleted it because it didn't do well. Uh, maybe it was a little bit too much of a subtweet
but something along the lines of like
I've never seen a founder
That post with the comments off like turn the community around for the better just an observation. I don't know what it means
Bro, who was a like frenzy friends with you was the last project to turn the fucking comments off
Also, I gotta let this motherfucker on stage. I guess
All right, but we we got to talk about and it promised you some monkey doll threads
Um, so we're gonna go some of these hands. I'll throw it to beat check. I mean beat check
What are your thoughts on the specifically nothing else?
Oh then turn in the comments off on a difficult announcement because in my opinion that is a sign fucking
Of weakness and ct is like some goddamn sharks when they smoke blood in the water
Yeah, I completely agree with that because also if you think about it
What difference does it make whether comments are on or off?
Just mute the thread and don't read them
Like what's the point? I don't understand. I think it's really straightforward
Like leave them on and if you're really really desperate not to see it
You can mute it in some way and then just ignore the stuff
But I think yeah, you've got to let people uh weigh in especially at a time of like heightened
Heightened emotion you got to let them have it out
And then if you want to deal with it, you can deal with it. However, however, you like but just turning it off is
Tg i'm sorry. You you've always said you don't like the hands. You want people to come in with fucking takes. So so
Oh, I better meet me regs. Turn that fucking up
Fucking do it because beanie's on stage first off and I know we're about to shift fucking gears. It just is what it is
We're about to shift fucking gears
Let me tell you believe me of all people if you know what i'm saying once you go comments off
You are absolutely fucked plain and simple. It is not going to get better
It is going to get worse. You are going to get shredded with the quote tweets
Secondly, you asked are the fanny packs worse than the keyboards fanny packs were free and don't get it twisted
We got socks and fanny packs. So don't don't shut you. Are you wearing those right now?
Are you wearing those right now? I wear them every day. I got the fanny pack on too, bro
Fully loaded on your feet or no. I got the fanny pack like the dad belt right now
It looks it looks terrible on me. I got the socks on I just they're sweaty, too
I just got back from the gym. They're disgusting
But no, I mean seriously though fanny packs and socks and all the stuff from that stuff
They were free. Alex is shilling a paid fucking keyboard that nobody asked for it's a hundred times worse
Plain and simple. I don't care what you say, but the comments off makes them equally as bad
How many movers stop stop
Just like that you have to type on it situation
Maybe like you need to type on the keyboard to understand what what really like, you know, it's an experience
Type to earn i'm down to one million birds though, bro
I'm only down to one. All right, just because I gotta read
I'm sorry to hear that just because I have to maybe that's the troll threat guy though
Like you he sells your keyboard and he doesn't even let you to type or comment on his tweet. It has key lock
No, no imagine imagine the keyboard like every time you type you in points
That's kind of what I think is gonna happen is is points saving the allocation of the tosy for that baby. Let's go
There you go. Here's the original
Grail tweet I have to read it because it's fucking I mean, bro. It's funny
Um, so alex announces yada. Yada. I'm sorry to announce a limited edition
First of all, one of the 300 is crazy. Even if every person in the community wanted to pay you can't even meant it is crazy
What the fuck is this shit at not alex lynn?
I meant 15 of your nft to show support and I buy more on the floor
I didn't give you ease to build a fucking exclusive keyboard that no one asked for
You had one job and you failed so far. You should be absolutely ashamed doing your community in like this
You got an azuki pfp. It's at the walmart valhallis. You might have some good thought
I mean, what do you think about about this reply comments? I what do you make of this?
No, dude, the reply was 100 spot on right like first of all like i'll be very short with this because I i'm also friends
It's grail. We we talk a lot about these things. We're all in the spirit now. It's uh, there's an open season of
People are just getting annoyed the big takeaways are
We valhala was tried to fork azuki which was kind of funny
They have quietly rebranded the valhala twitter to a premium gaming goods market
Whatever the fuck is in the bio
And this is in my opinion a moment where it's like when monoliths let you trade for two like six months
And they gave you 20 off sneakers
And here we have a keyboard that only 300 people can buy
And the big thing that pissed grail off was the idea that hey
We've been radio silent for a year and no one's talking about us
Guys, we've we spent all this time to build a custom keyboard. This keyboard is gonna like
The points on this keyboard are gonna be absolutely nuts
You may get the keyboard before you get your taproot wizard, you know, that was the vibe he gave out, you know
That's like the quick take on valhala. It's just oh and this is
There are also like other reports
Of his uh, I don't want to like put stuff on the timeline
But like let's just say that we don't think he's actively focused on valhala
What is that supposed to mean
I just heard he parties a lot tg. I heard he parties a lot. Uh, you know the founder was
Didn't azuki throw a hundred million dollar party in vegas?
Yeah, but tg we paid for that. We enjoyed that party actually met you at that fucking party. Uh,
You know, we let's not get into azuki dude, that's what we paid for you mean our fucking elementals, right?
The only thing i'll say is that
The big concern like jokes aside is that we don't know what valhala is building
Like I don't know what they're trying to do like let alone stacked which I think is pivoting from twitch to whatever the fuck
We don't know what valhala is and we we never really got clarity on that
I think that's like the big the big pain point if you had done nothing there would like no one was talking about valhala, dude
It's just funny that he decided to like, you know, if you're gonna raise your hand
You better know that you're raising your hand for something good, you know
All right, let's do this. Uh
Fucking hell i'm gonna call in like one more hand and I gotta go to the fucking green goblin over here
Um loop what's going on him after what's on your mind? What are you thinking? What are you feeling? What do you think about hala?
Yeah, man. I I mean, I don't think I don't think alex. Linda grifter. Um, I just think like
When you this is kind of what happens when you get like an la based
Entrepreneur or like la grown entrepreneur?
Like I i've spent a lot of time due to diligence for like angel investors and and seed and vcs and shit
Some of these companies that get funded in la like they're not fucking doing anything
And they're like they're just like kids who grew up in la or like sf
I think these are like the most sheltered people on the entire planet
Like I think to be like the main point is like to be a web3
Founders successful in the long term and I count, you know, plus two two plus years long term
Uh, you need to be like gritty as fuck
And you need to be like willing to keep the comments off and like take all the shit
And just like lean into it and steer into it
Like I think it's the same reason kevin rose has failed like he just hasn't steered into it enough
And you need to get people on your side to be like like I honestly think
You need to be like you need to grow up in like fucking
30 miles outside of montreal
In like a cabin and like you need to walk out of your house and like
You're you know clearing snow off your car
And you spill coffee in yourself and you're going to work at the fucking gas station in the morning
And like I think you need to have that level of grit like you can't wake up in the morning be like
Oh, I might take a surf before work, uh, and come to grab coffee with some friends
Like I think I think he maybe is just a poor operator
Like I think he's just tried to run this company as like a web2 type company
And I honestly think like early days
They were very organized and all of their announcements were very professional
They they ran it extremely professionally and I will give them credit for that
But I think they're just running it like a web2 company and like if you look at his last company
They you know got funded 48 million dollars and then a year later shut down and you know
One of the one of the one of their flagship products got bought for morph by morph, which is like a um, uh
It's like a makeup brand. So like yeah, they maybe they had a little exit
But like I think that was just digging them out of the hole
Like I don't think that was like a successful exit
So like I think maybe he's just like not that great at running a company and just doesn't maybe have the grit
Uh, and like I don't know man
Like I think you just it's hard to trust people that are like an la entrepreneur
Like I think they need to be from somewhere else and then move to la for for work, bro
You literally fucking live in la and what the fuck are you talking about? I'm not from here
I'm not from here and I think you know, you know what i'm talking about, bro
You know this you know the 20 something like la founders that are all like so targeted right now
It actually hurt. I feel so targeted
You're dude. I I know you know what i'm talking about people that are like, yo tg like yeah, you know
I run this music collective. I also, you know did this nft. I also run this uh, like this networking group on the side
I also like manage, uh, use i'm a music producer
I do music video like you're like, oh so you do nothing is what is what is is what's really happening and I think like
I don't know. That's just the type of la entrepreneur that uh, I don't think can make it in in web3
Oh, we dunking on la because I have a few other things
That I can bring up go for it
Yeah, that was it that was the bit I don't I don't feel like I need to continue
I'm also in e-commerce is a nice ad to that. All right, beanie. What the fuck are you doing on stage right now?
What the hell happened last night beanie? I mean what the fuck dude?
I mean, I can't say the same question. I was looking for you
Hold on. I was looking for your beanie. I've been looking for you for like six months
I gave a whole bit in this space. Here's here's my I I was I didn't even see it
Somebody messaged me. No. No, I swear somebody messaged me about 20 minutes ago. Okay, uh here
Well, it's nice to see you online, um, it's good to see you here today here here here here's here's what i'll say is
We'll uh, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt we'll talk to you today
But we we got like nine threads that we need to go through beanie and here's the reality you did the space last night
I have some comments. I want to talk about the space last night because holy shit. It got a little spicy, but here's the
Oh, I I missed that I had to cut out I got another call there
Um, so I missed everything you said, but yeah, it was a crazy late night and um
You're sorry is right. Um, here's what i'm saying. I gave a whole bit at the beginning of this space
Uh, I enjoyed to leave space last night
But here's the reality situation beanie is you're a fucking mess when there are other people on stage. I mean
You're a mess when there is community people firing questions ask you
I mean, you know what to do you were you were flustered
You were all over the fucking place going 100 miles an hour kind of like how i'm doing right now
So this is what we need to do
Is you need to answer one of my texts and we need to schedule 24 hours in advance a proper one-on-one space
Where we can go through all these these threads whatever it is the allegations
That people want to dress and you don't need a hundred thousand people firing questions at you. So text me back
We'll schedule that but in the meantime in the meantime, let's talk about right now
Let's talk about yesterday and what the hell happened yesterday, dude?
I mean the space i've never seen you in and i've never seen you flustered like that. Oh, he was great
He was screaming at people. You're a constant. I mean what happened?
Well, I mean alan I see alan on stage here alan asked me to address the allegations. So I've uh, you know
i've addressed the allegations and
Um, but beanie, what did alan's age have to do with it? And what did well, no, it was more of uh, you know, um
You know it overall experienced how long you've been in uh, you know
Internet internet commerce and whatnot. I thought that was you know relevant
Okay, sure, maybe it wasn't the the greatest road to go down but I mean, uh, a lot of people are very young in the space and
um, they just haven't been around a long time to
Open mind towards things. I'm just wondering if alan read it and his thoughts
Uh, no, I haven't read it actually everyone's been messaging me to give it a read
I saw it was written like a book. So I wanted to have time. No, and I appreciate it
Yeah, so i'll do that. I do have a question though. How old are you?
Old I mean if you read the thread you'll see
Should we read it right now? Like should we do like a little like popcorn read aloud session and read it right now
Okay, uh, this is a long one though. My reading comprehension is like not very good
I did not go to college. So bear with me on this one. If it starts getting a little uh,
Little stuttery then um, I I gotta go though
I gotta go pick somebody up
I'm serious. I just jumped on for a minute. So brave beady. You're so brave to have him on his face pin your tweet
What are you gonna go do right now? Now? I gotta go pick somebody up
I'm in the garage right now. That's uh, you're done
I don't know if you listened to the recording of yesterday's space
But the way you were ducking and dancing around questions in the end zone
You look like you played in the nfl beanie the way you were dodging not answering shit
Deflecting projecting doing all the aids except the answering
No, no, no, that's not true. No, no, I can't be true. I look here. We don't gotta do it right now
I'm still gonna read the thread go go deal with your garage
But when you are ready to have a man-to-man space to really address these allegations and cut this bullshit
You let me know we'll schedule 24 hours in advance. We'll do a proper. We'll do a proper space
I'll give you a proper whistle proper mic. Uh, it will not be chaos
We might have have board apes yelling at you on stage and shit
We'll do it the right way and we can finally stop talking about this
So when you are ready beanie when you are ready to finally get this over with you, let me know
We'll schedule this in advance and we will run a proper space. I can guarantee you that
All right get him out of here, um
Get him out of here. Get him out of here. Shout out to beanie. This is a problem
No, he wants to talk we go to read the thread and then he
I got shit in the garage to do I got I mean, come on bro
I don't know. I mean this
I mean, what do you make of this shit? The second you try to talk about anything serious the guy runs away
I mean what what the fuck?
Yeah, that's funny man, that's great, uh, that's great content, yeah
But that's all it is. It's great content. Nothing real no substance. No, I mean
It's it's like jerry springer
Do we feel it is actually beanie beanie used to have balls
Like whether you like it or not, he had the balls to come up and have the conversation. What was that?
Do you know what tg one of the things I have thought though is that I am glad that the beanie account is beanie
Because there was a period of time
I started to question whether it was actually the same person just from the way it was written and whatever. So it's
Like at a minimum i'm kind of just kind of happy that it is that same person same character
Here's the one thing i'll say before he leaves this space
The one thing i'll say jt wherever you are clip it is not once but twice
On back-to-back occasions when someone has tried to come up here start reading the thread addressing specific points
That is not for beanie squirms out of there like a fucking earthworm
Okay, i'm sticking them coming on stage farming our listeners farming our audience farming our engagement saying a whole lot of words
But speaking absolutely fucking nothing. So look i'm done i'm done offering the stage
I'm done engaging with the tweets until this amount is ready for a proper conversation beanie. He's back in the request
We're not doing it. That was your one and done like we're playing at kentucky
That was your one shot. You let me know when you're ready for a scheduled space and organized space
We will run it proper. You know, you know, i'm gonna give you the best stage possible. I'm gonna be fair
I'm gonna be honest i'm gonna have the points ready to go. It's gonna be the best one that you go on
There's no other options. So that's my pitch. That's my suggestion
Clip it send it to him tag him. He's in the request. He heard it. I don't give a fuck
Alan what's up? What'd you think?
When someone shows you who they are multiple times believe them, I mean you can do the space but
Again, he had the opportunity and he like you said he ran off
I I don't really feel like he deserves to be left back on the stage
I mean, he's just here to farm to farm your engagement farm your audience to farm your your engage
I don't think he deserves another chance
Until we schedule the proper space. That was my initial offer. I didn't want to do it. I let him up
I agree with you get out of your garage and then let's talk when the garage is fixed. We'll talk scotty. What's going on?
Atg why don't you make a testicle reference since it works so well with mark cuban?
Uh that actually I forgot that happened. I think I actually fucked that up
Um, I actually think he was gonna do the podcast before I tweeted mark cuban's gonna do the podcast. I can feel my balls tingling
I was pretty confident. He was gonna do that before I tweeted it
I didn't exactly play out but it is what do you think he would you get scared out because of your balls?
Well, greg got him just before thread guy with a d's joke and then I don't know he probably just
Was already having a bad bowls day. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, here's a real question and because people are asking
Um, let me throw it to to b check and then someone who's gonna need me some spot. Do you think there's an effort told his account?
I forget who just said it. Someone just said it. There's been a lot of tweets beanie sold his account
He's not the same beanie. We missed the old beanie straight from the gold beanie
Like I mean b check. Do you think this is the same beanie maxi that we saw?
rise to villain status in 2021
Yeah, we just heard him. That was the thing. I mean modern ai is getting pretty good. Is it not?
I think as like once we've heard you heard ai great did not beat check
I do think I mean i'm open to the idea that maybe there's other people doing some writing
For him i'm open to that idea
But uh, I don't know if we've got that ai running through the audio yet
But b check what I will say is I read that thread that he wrote today
That's beanie writing. I mean, maybe he had somebody have a look at it
But you know the mistakes are there, you know where he's he he spells
You know like all of us we don't spell perfectly
And there are some threads earlier on where he's spelling perfectly, but that thread today
He 90 wrote that and I think that account is too valuable
Uh to beanie for somebody else to have it i'm done
I actually agree with you. I what I mean by like someone else uh, maybe drafting some stuff is that you know for certain types of content
Just like I think when creators when creators of any kind get a bit bigger
They just have a few more people who either help with like research or writing or whatever. I don't think
I agree with you. I think it's a very very valuable account. You wouldn't want to lose
But i'm saying as a creator at a certain point sometimes you might be like look I need to post about this at some point
Uh, could someone help me with the research and draw something for me and then i'm just gonna post it
So I don't I think the two things we're saying are compatible
So this thing is so long dude
Um, I don't really want to read it
Uh, so he uses the word detractors
And who uses the tractors?
I don't even like i'm sort of out of breath from like running around. I don't know
Here's bad brothers. Well bad brother was fucking on his ass like grass yesterday. I mean he was on there like
It was it was I feel like we should read it. Fuck. We should read it. All right, fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. Fuck
We'll read it. We'll read it. We'll read it. Um, we'll read it. We'll read it
Last night I jumped on a space to talk about the state of the industry and it quickly got confronted by detractors
Who demanded that I address a thread that led to my cancellation?
Which caused me to get forced out of pixel vault at the top and wolf game two years ago
While I have addressed the thread it's true. I promised a more specific response to the allegations. So here it is
Some context first in crypto everything that has a token
That doesn't indefinitely moon is considered a scam and a failure by this definition almost every project ever
Created falls into that category and it's true. I've been involved in various capacities with past crypto projects
The author of the thread does a good job identifying past entrepreneurial efforts
But I believe the accusations that these are somehow unethical or false for starters
I've always been a suit anonymous
I've always been suit anonymous since creating this account three years ago
People knew my identity I was on prominent cap tables under my real name companies
I backed all knew who they were dealing with I was not afraid of my past
My past is just a past of somebody that has been grinding in the trenches of the internet for the past almost 30
Years the thread includes anonymous postings about myself
As some sort of villain that turned on others in the pirate satellite tv business
This couldn't be further from the truth
What is referenced is an actual lawsuit that was publicly settled over 20 years ago
It's well known to anyone that followed the industry in the late 90s that as dealers went down
Customer lists were obtained and the satellite companies sued tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of users
Of course animosity will exist in a situation like this
And the anonymous form posting reference is a prime example, but this is sensationalized
It doesn't equal to being a rat as suggested device sellers all accepted credit cards
And it was pretty easy for satellite companies to obtain these customer records
Next I was identified as being part of a
Quote unquote make money online course that was openly sold on the internet to this date
There is not a single customer complaint regarding the content that was sold another industry where almost every transaction leads to buyer's remorse
The name of the program sold was mentioned in the thread and it was suggested that it's a scam
But where's the scam if nobody has actually complained about the product? That's not a bad point
There are there are quite a few main characters in web 3 right now that come from that space
Many have faced lawsuits and worse regarding courses they sold
The internet is filled with bad customer experiences
I'm not going to name names, but with much less research. It's easy to find yet. This course reference to me
Does not have a single customer complaint anywhere. That's actually remarkable for that industry
How is that possible because I said on spaces? I have high integrity. I was wrongfully portrayed in the contrary
The content I offered for sale as part of that make money course online was solid cutting edge actually
Mostly about selling products on amazon something I was very early to in the early 2000s
Which leads me to my next point selling skincare products again implied that this is somehow scammy behavior
But it's a massive business and all the companies that I had involvement with have impeccable
Reputations in the skincare space there were trial offers, but no credit card banging
Many sales were actually repeat customers testament to the quality of products being sold good prices, too
For the best ingredients with the highest concentration of anti-aging peptides on the market. That sounds like cap
It's considered a scammy business based on false hopes and promises, but i've never used fake before and after photos
Magical results were never promised the endorsements were all genuine. It was actually a great business that i'm quite proud to
Quite proud of to this day. Now. There's like two more tweets. I'm burning out here. I'm running out of steam
Um, i'm going to need to listen to it. He bounced i'm lightheaded and shit
That's the fucking beanie thread. That's the main juice the main gets the main uh, the meat the girth
Uh, I mean that's the I hate calling on you, but you got your hand out
But sometimes you have contrarian takes i'm gonna do it anyways
What do you think you know?
I really I really feel bad for this guy being canceled also known as accountability for past behavior
I mean, I can't even I can't even tell you like I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean
My wife tried to cancel me thread guy. She's starting to divorce me just because I had sex with her sister
I mean, I mean come on. No, but in all seriousness, this is a fucking joke
There's no such thing as cancellation basically in general. I know i'm a contrarian there louis ck won a grammy last year
Last year you fucking idiots. So yeah people sometimes did it really? Yes people sometimes
That's actually crazy accountability for their past behavior. Just based on reputational load
It could be for good or bad reasons calangelo of the 76ers had to freaking quit his job
Just because his wife formed a burner account. Okay, big businesses care about their reputation. This guy's kind of a sleazeball
Okay, i'm not saying he's a corrupt or a liar or whatever
But his reputation caught up with him and sometimes big businesses cut ties. We're going on for a hundred fucking years
I mean, give me a break. Like this is not exactly like
Losing your gold medal because you put your fist up in the olympics
This is like a big business one of the cut guys ties with another big mouth guy whose reputation was a little bit
Freaking compromised and by the way according to him
He's still getting business inquiries all the time for people to partner with him. Like how are you canceled?
You're everybody likes who you get a thousand. I mean, I enjoy his takes too
So I like I I probably have like an 80 hit rate on on the take on his takes that I like
And so what like what is describing even I wouldn't admit that okay, you know what I mean like he's doing fine
Like what's what's the what's the fucking victim mentality here?
I'll tell you what i'd much rather
Be crying in the bends than a than a honda and he is doing just that here. Here's my here's my final take on it
This space got a little weird
first of all, he texted me and said
He's like was that you screaming at me for being soft sound like an ai
So he thinks i'm ai. I think he's ai
First of all just to set the stage a little bit and neither of us are convinced the other one is human
I do agree with the take that you can only be canceled if you let yourself get canceled
I think that's like an objective fact
The only people on ct that have been canceled have the ones that like like
All right. Kevin rose's last tweet is I will no longer be posting on this platform. Find me on threads with the comments turned off
Like that that those are the actions that let people eat your lunch same with the alex glenn post comments turned off
Those are the comments that people like come fucking eat your lunch
And and quote unquote cancel you you can really only be canceled if you let yourself be canceled
I feel like beanie did not he just said he kind of just said fuck you guys now. He may have sold the account
I'm still not convinced. I'm not convinced the account hasn't been sold and i'll tell you what the 2024
There's a lot of softball takes coming from that account. Whoever's running it in 2024. There's a lot of softball takes
Um not calling people pussies like he used to
I genuinely want to do the space like I genuinely want to do the space
I think he has some interesting shit to say i'm open to doing it
I'm just not down to run it on his fucking accord when he wants when he feels like it we're gonna do it
We're gonna do it proper because I know he I know he is in entire need for a proper stage
Okay, because here's the problem is when you come on this space start spewing bullshit start talking crazy
It's happy with bit boy. You come on the stage unprepared. I'm prepared. You're unprepared
He starts spewing bullshit left and right and then all of a sudden next thing, you know
There's some clip of look what so-and-so said in the thread guy space and then here I am looking like a fucking clown
Here's just like a brute reality
Is that beanie has something to hide and he has a side of the story. That's true
That's real that he believes that he believes in then he would have literally zero problem
Coming to the space in a scheduled timely manner like any normal person would do in conducting a proper interview
And the reality of the situation is if he's unwilling
To come to the space at a normal time and conducting normal interview like normal people do then there actually is a problem
That there actually is something to be hid and he's unwilling to do that
So in my opinion the ball is in his court
He wants a proper stage a proper conversation a proper fucking interview do this just the right way
Cover things the way that both of us would want it to be covered
In a high integrity journalistic way
Then he'll fucking send me a dm back
We will schedule the space and we will make this shit happen until that I am not interested in entertaining
And engaging with and commenting on anything beanie maxi from that account whoever that even is until we get to that point
That's my comment. That's my stance. That's where i'm at with it bad brother
So it's you because you were on his ass like grass yesterday. I mean what's going on?
So no, yeah, I mean because that's pretty much what happened last night
I think me and leap basically were operating from the same standpoint where it was like, hey, we've heard bad things about beanie
We didn't really know the full story and it was like, okay now you're here answer these questions
But like I still don't fucking get it where it's like, I don't know
I've heard people in the past be like, oh beanie
Yeah, that guy was like a rugger and stuff from everything, you know, he was saying that's in this thread
I guess it's kind of just like, okay
Maybe he did some bad stuff on past businesses that is now coming that came back to haunt him in that thread
But like i'm not hearing any like rug projects and stuff in my crypto standpoint
I mean to me from like just from the courses thing and again a very high level not delving into the details
I mean, this is kind of like what happened with luka except luka has a you know successful project and is out there grinding and
But um, like if beanie had that project right now
Would he just be in the same situation as luka where it's just like yeah
We don't care about that stuff because we're seeing what you do now
Because you know, uh, what a bando he didn't like read the thread
Let me pick out three tweets and actually ask the damn question for reading the thread
And then he I didn't kind of really like the way he was responding and stuff
But he could just be a bad communicator or whatever. So again, I don't know it could just be that same situation
Maybe he do rugs or launch of the project tomorrow and everything's good
But again unless someone could point me to like some on-chain data. Okay, here's where he rubbed it again
I need to look at the beanie post it and the other thing side by side
I don't particularly care because it never really affected me
So i haven't really gone through that and i've been working all day
But it's just kind of like, you know, that's kind of my position on it. I've just heard he was bad in the past
Okay, now i'm getting a chance to address it. I'm not really hearing anything, you know ground swelling or whatever
And it kind of just sounds to me like old stuff brought up and yeah, you know, whatever. Yeah, you know
All right. Here's rock because here's here's the thing as well is I feel like I need to start like
Calling pv people because he just he did just hit me up and said i'll do the interview
I'll talk about what you want to talk about. But like what do you want to address?
Um, so we we need to like get in the we got we gotta do like a pixel vault space tomorrow low key
and the crowd source what what people
Want to address here and get it. Also
Some i can't even tell with this guy
Like I came in hot today and I almost like felt bad because he was so like the police was so soft
And he was talking so quiet. I almost like felt don't fall for it. No, man. Do not fall for that
That's part of this thing. He got the ball on you
No, he definitely didn't get me and i'll tell you I read his his his thread just now
You want to forget his thread make him answer the nft ethics thread go through post by post because he didn't mention
Crypto bet he didn't mention token pay. He didn't mention that
It's kind of what I mean even that would make it even more entertaining then if that's the case
My point is make him go point by point because there's ethereum wallets in there listed, right?
Like it's not that hard, but he wrote up this whole paragraph
Didn't actually point by point really he spoke abstractly generally not point by point
Which is what we're trying to do last night same moves
No, yeah, it's the same moves. But at the same time it's like I don't have anything to refute
It's this red guy if you want to be the the crack journalist
Yeah, I would take the nft ethics thread and again nft ethics has its own problems
Then you know where where so it's like take that thread take what he said
If there's anything like alan saying that like he didn't really address pick those out
Ask the questions that are relevant to the ethics thread and just clear it all up and we'll see, you know
I'll tell you what I fucking wanted. It's gonna happen. So I will uh, sorry gg. I'll do some reading tonight
I know bro. I'm not I also have to like I have to read about doodles as well
Um, not trying to feel about it. But look look look look. I do have one more
Final question actually because you know, we talked we talked pick the vault a little bit pick some vault
Somewhat has some relation to blockchain gaming. I mean bad brother curious you've been playing any blockchain games recently
Um, no, but you know, what do you call, you know, I have been playing that uh pal world thing
Um that has some guns in it. I'm like a real gun person, you know, I love shooting guns playing with guns
Um, you know don't play with them in real life, but um, okay, you know, do you know anything that could help me out there?
I actually do have a recommendation if you are interested. Would you like to know a little more about brother?
Yeah, you know, you know, I got a lot of time taken up these days
But if I could have something, you know
I could just play first person shooter type of thing, you know on the off chance if you have recommendation i'm open to
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