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Ben Haldeman, Founder of LifeShip (Mar. 20, 2025 Town Hall)
Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 1:27:19Space Recording
Short Summary
LifeShip's innovative project to establish a pyramid on the moon marks a significant milestone in space exploration, fostering community collaboration and cultural contributions. With plans for future missions and a focus on ethical discussions around human DNA in space, LifeShip is poised for growth and engagement in the crypto and space sectors.
Full Transcription
Cool, looks like we got Ben from LifeVip here.
How's it going everybody?
GM, GM.
Hey.
Morning.
Hello, everyone.
It's great to be here.
You guys hear me?
Hello everyone, it's great to be here.
Yep.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Great to have Ben here.
Pablo, I'll turn it over to you.
Cool.
Well, yeah.
Happy Thursday, everyone.
Cool.
Yeah.
Today we've got Ben from LifeShip.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy. Well, yeah, happy Thursday, everyone. Cool. Yeah, today we've got Ben from LifeShip.
We've had a few conversations with Ben in the past, but something big has changed since then.
There's a pyramid on the moon. So this has been something Ben's been working towards for a long time and
has kind of turned it into this platform for a bunch of different communities to build on top of,
which is really cool. And yeah, I guess we go back, I want to say almost three years at this point,
where we've been talking about putting a little bounty on the surface of
the moon. And yeah, it's cool to have that behind us now. And it's taken a lot to get
to this point. So it's awesome to say that, hey, it's actually there and it's working
and people are adding tokens
and putting their own little meme currencies
on the pyramid on the moon.
And yeah, I'm sure that the experience was
relatively crazier for you
because you're dealing with multiple different communities
and then coordinating with Firefly and all of this.
So I imagine that you're kind of taking a breather now,
but I guess Ben, maybe actually before we hop
into the pyramid aspect of things,
I think it'd be good for maybe some of the new faces that
might not know you or Lifeship to just get a quick intro about your background and what
you're doing at Lifeship, and then we can hop into the pyramid.
Awesome.
Hey, Pablo.
Thanks for having me. And yeah, I've been part of Moondow for a few years,
and I love the journey we've been on together,
and love the alignment with what I've been doing with LifeShip.
And our overall mission is the community-powered movement for humanity, for Earth, that is about
one day setting the seas of light for the stars. And along that path, we'll
work for a multi-generational movement to populate space and continue life in the universe. And so I came up with the first mission,
and we've done several missions now, but this is the first one to land on the moon,
is that we're doing seed banks in the back of Earth, as well as archives of humanity and
humanity's story. And so we just landed this pyramid on the moon that is the Berksey Bank and is
an archive of humanity and a platform where we've added all sorts of cool stories and
cool content and cool missions to it. My background, I come from deep in the hardware engineering. I studied mechanical engineering
at Berkeley. I worked on instruments to look for life on Mars and design these electrical,
optical, mechanical, micro fluidic instruments with lasers to fluoresce amino acids and high
voltages to pull them through micro fluid channels
and separate and get a fingerprint of what amino acids are in a sample. And so this was
an early myth in collaboration with NASA and JPL that there's actually instruments up on
Mars now that are working off these initial prototypes. So I did that at Berkeley
and then I spent eight years building big telescopes around the world. And the setup
as a nonprofit started with a quarter billion dollar endowment to create a global network
of telescopes. And I joined, that was the second person to join, and
we grew to 80 people and telescopes around the world. So it kind of ran like a Silicon Valley
startup, but it was a nonprofit with a big mission to create telescopes around the world,
to see new phenomena and see things that change and those have been used to find
hundreds of new planets
find
Find new places that maybe one day we could go find places where life might exist
I'll find places where life might have previously existed
And so that really got me interested in
stars and looking outward. And then I moved to San Francisco, I joined Planet Labs early on,
and there was plenty of people who joined Planet. Planet, in five years that I was there, we ended up launching just 300 satellites in space. And Starlink asked us if we had the most satellites
ever launched of a constellation. And these satellites are to image the whole world every day.
And now there's other types of satellites that follow up on things and monitor carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide and
do hyper spectral imagery and really make the earth quantifiable. So yeah I
spent good five years building the camera system on those, building a
lot of satellite, curing space on rockets, coordinating, getting these spaces, I visited rocket labs,
I visited NASA to get satellites on Russian rockets. I visited probably 15 different rocket
manufacturers over several years. I had meetings in the White House, in the Pentagon, in DARPA, in NASA,
and really got to see a lot of the space industry.
And that was a cool experience.
And I kind of evolved myself from just pure engineering,
some more like seeing the product,
seeing the overall picture.
And then myself personally, I started going to Burning Man,
going to the rainforest, like the yoga teacher training,
did meditation retreats, really broadened myself
as a human.
And in this process, I was down in the rainforest
in Central America and I was down in the rainforest in Central America, and I did
my ayahuasca ceremony, and the next day I went for this long walk in the rainforest,
and I meditated under the giant grandmother tree in the rainforest, and I had this vision
of Earth as one organism, and the Earth bursting out of feet with life. And then in this vision, it was
very clear that there were humans so that we could help them reproduce. So I kind of
came out of this vision with the very serious purpose of, all my purpose is to create the
seeds of earth to send to the stars. And then connected pretty quickly as the first mission
as a seed bank on the moon,
the monument on the moon,
the earth and our stuff started on our mission.
And now here we are.
We have a pyramid on the moon with the seeds
and we have more upcoming missions
than throwing it out of the community
and getting all different ways that people can be part of it.
Awesome, yeah.
Yeah, I love hearing your whole journey.
And yeah, I think
what LifeShip is doing is really unique.
I'm curious, so could you tell us a story
of how the pyramid came together?
I'm curious especially, you know,
why a pyramid of all shapes?
And yeah, what was the kind of, I don't know,
I'm sure that along the way there are many, many challenges, setbacks, and yeah, doing anything, there's kind of always a whole root structure of things that are hidden that I feel like are kind of the unique journey of the individual kind of pushing something
forward like this. So I'm curious, you know, how could you tell us that story? How did
the pyramid get on the moon?
For sure. And I just share some slides. I'll talk through these as I go. So yeah, the overall vision is to save copies of Earth across space and make
it a movement about Earth and humanity. And so our overall mission is to populate space
and spread like the stars. These are the satellites that worked on the planet. So here's the pyramid that's now on the moon.
And we started with a few missions to the space base
and then put a seed bank up there and put a DNA bank up there.
And the concept of doing a pyramid
just kind of kept coming back to me.
And really a pyramid is something that is a symbol
that's a symbol that humans
have built for thousands of years, maybe even building pyramids in our DNA or arises in
our consciousness.
It feels like it's something that we're kind of tend to do.
And it has become a symbol of civilization,
and civilization's past,
and something that is a message to the future.
And so, yeah, it kind of hooked on me that,
okay, it's not just a time capsule,
it's kind of a monument,
and it apparently became the right symbol for it.
This is it on Firefly.
And so we, it launched on Firefly Blue Ghost.
I knew a person at Firefly maybe two, three years ago.
And it was the idea of the seed bank and they liked it.
And so I got it on the mission.
Most of the mission was all NASA payloads.
I think we were the only commercial payloads on it.
And then packed inside are 100 different plant seeds,
DNA of a bunch of different plants,
a bunch of different art layers,
long-sum SpaceX rocket, the way away from Earth.
It's just got phenomenal images on the way down, landing on the moon.
It's kind of iconic image of the ghost's own shadow, the earth rising.
Got different artists to put art layers in it. Got a bunch of different organizations that are
partners that added different collections in different ways. There's an NFT and metaverse
art project called Moonmark Museum that we worked with on it.
This is an overall layer that we did on Nanopiece that has a bunch of books, a bunch of different
collections, a bunch of different partner stuff.
Moondow added the constitution, business documents to there there as well as somewhere on that top row is the private key to
to a wallet that we've worked on together. Sure that's been talked about and we'll talk about
more but that's that's on the top row of this. That's up on the moon now. We are on another mission with Astrolab coming up in November and have a few more weeks to
add stuff to that, but we're skipping another pyramid off pretty soon to that mission.
Yeah.
That's kind of an overview of where it is.
What else is on your mind, Pablo?
Well, I guess, yeah, I'm curious about the sort of like human story of this all coming together. So I know that
you really wanted to turn this into kind of a platform for many different communities
to add on top of. Yeah, I'm curious, you know, how did that all come together? What were some of the challenges involved? How, yeah, what was the process of bringing in
all these different artists and communities together?
What was kind of unexpected about it?
What did you learn throughout that whole process?
So one thing is we started with the vision being, I think art was in the vision from
the beginning and it being a platform, but the first MVP product and way to grow community
was around DNA and sending human DNA to the moon.
And so started on that, started creating radio product, we, we've got
a couple thousand people over years to add their DNA.
We sent DNA up to space three different times, twice to the international space
station, once with astrobotic and it went the distance of the moon, but then
it has some fuel leaks and didn't have enough fuel to land on the moon.
So they had to bring it
back and burning up in Earth's atmosphere. So we got very close to putting a collection of a few
thousand people's DNA on the moon. And then this whole story kind of went viral around human remains.
We shouldn't put human remains on them. DNA got kind of caught up on them.
So in the last minute, we weren't allowed to add human DNA to this pyramid going to
the moon. So I think as far as like the human journey, like the journey started with a community of people where their DNA is part of a population
bank to go to the moon and eventually go to the stars. And that still is the core mission
of ours, still navigating when we can get human DNA on the moon, because there is some
reluctance or resistance with some of the landing companies around not wanting
to get caught up in negative media around the moon turning into a burial ground and
DNA is just kind of caught in that conversation. So that was unexpected and that's been an
interesting journey. But overall, I just also saw this as this as a platform where we're putting getting artists involved.
We're getting other entrepreneurs and other organizations
and other communities and other movements
that really see this as for humanity and for all of us
and that there's ways that this is a collective platform that other
organizations can connect with and be part of and tell their own stories with. And so, yeah,
over time I've met a bunch of full projects that have all aligned and we've brought on partnerships
in the mission, including full staff, and then meet people who want to put their book
up there, their story, or a small piece of art.
And so I've been growing this as a mission with that.
And I guess the ones that inspire me the most
are people that are starting whole new companies
based on, okay, we're gonna include this.
And I feel like I kind of was in the first wave
of what's planned in the lab of whatever,
like new space or space 2.0 or whatever, where it needs to be a, where,
you know, like a Silicon Valley startup could start a company in a garage, then it's the
satellites in space and grow to be a public company. And so that planet was one of the
poster tiles of that new movement where where entrepreneurs
could go and start a space company and not just the government funded or large defense
contractor could do things.
And then now I think we're at another wave where you don't even need to raise millions
of dollars of VC money to do something in space and do something big.
And now, you know, now any one of us could start our own like mission or community or
things related to space and that there are ways that it was based already.
And so, it's been inspired by the way that LifeShip
has been that for a bunch of communities and missions
where we've been able to help other missions
get started in space by just including a collection
on top of us.
And so, yeah, that's how I see LifeShip as a platform
where we are on a mission to put monuments across space,
then across the moon and Mars, and eventually send them to stars and we want others to build
their own collections, then add them to it or build their own movements, then be part of them
in different ways where we collectively tell the story.
Yeah, well, I'm curious, I guess, as you tell that story,
what advice would you have for people that want to build their own company today?
So I guess, do you have any advice, recommendations for how to
approach any of these companies that are creating the landers? I'm curious what that process looked
like because you've kind of at this point, negotiated deals with multiple different companies.
I guess what sort of learnings do you have from all of that?
And what recommendations would you have for someone
that is like trying to break into that space?
Yeah, I think a core thing is, I don't feel like I just went and created a
company to make money or to create a company that needed to create a company.
I feel like the vision is kind of given to me and I like uncovered it as with each step
of going down the path and I'm still
uncovering and still learning. And so, you know, I think, I think aligning with the purpose
and aligning the vision and inspiring mission that you feel really drawn to is the first part. If you have an inspiring mission and vision, then you're going to get help along the way.
People are going to be drawn to it.
And these much bigger companies that are way too much for you to do business with and be gatekeepers.
Like they're, they're going to more one of the aligned for this.
So yeah, I think coming, coming through, coming to the vision and, and what you're
really meant to do and I think is the core one and And just going to meet people and going to cool events.
And I think a lot of my more important relationships, like many have happened by being at real life
events and being around people and just getting to know people in the industry.
But I think, yeah, yeah, it's accessible. You just need to pursue it and
to pursue it and go stay after your vision,
go meet people on the way and you can have a big vision
and you can go for the stars and go for the moon
and it kind of unfolds.
What, how do you relate to that?
Yeah, no, I think that that's great advice. I think that starting a company or something for
the sake of starting a company is usually not the right order of operations. You kind of need to start
with something that really resonates deeply, I guess, with what you want to do and your purpose.
I guess maybe to dive deeper into that. So I suppose you'd already been working in the space industry for a long time, but then kind of took the plunge as a founder.
What was that transition like for you? And yeah, how did you find that purpose?
And how did you kind of gather maybe the courage to be able to take that leap?
So I was in San Francisco.
I was at a startup that was a unicorn that grew fast and grew big.
I had a bunch of friends who were founders and definitely being around that culture and
that environment and those sort of people and those sort of visions definitely that
molded me.
And yeah, I would say many of the people I spent the most time with were founders in
the middle of doing big things. And so it, uh, the more you,
the more you hear around that, like, I know I hadn't founded something at that point,
but I kind of felt like, oh, this is who I am. I'm meant to follow, follow the myth of dreams
follow the myth of the dreams to create.
When the vision came, I guess at times it was scary.
I went through periods of doubt.
Okay, like at first I was like,
okay, I'm sending people DNA to the moon.
And at first that kind of felt like people are going to think that's
a scam is that it's really like that important.
And, um, and I'm, I'm much more clear on the bigger vision, um, and the
mission and what is, where it's going now.
Um, and initially it kind of felt like, okay, I think there's something here.
I think I'm supposed to keep going down the path. And yeah, maybe the first missing is
some people DNA the space. And that may sound a little gimmicky at first, but overall emissions,
the effort, but overall omitting the very life of the stars and continue the blueprint
of humanity.
So one day create a new world.
That is a long-term vision that feels inspiring and important and big and part of what humanity will do in the future.
Yeah, I think it was a process of trusting. It was a process of keeping taking steps forward.
keeping taking steps forward.
Long walks of nature like all the things that like helped me
helped me get in tune with what was meant to happen.
And I really felt like
yeah, I feel like it's
just unfolding and it's guided and that that is happening as it's just unfolding and it's guided and that is happening as it's supposed to.
It's part of nature. Nature and life expand and it's doing it through humanity and through us.
So coming to those realizations and just walking down the path and keeping going when
it was confusing or hard or scary and then or when there was like some disappointment, and just stressing that this is all teaching me and that it's leaving down this path further.
Right, yeah, I think that, yeah, sometimes, yeah, well, it sounds like you've got a very
Yeah, well, it sounds like you've got a very strong kind of like core directive that can
help get you through some of those hard periods that I think are very common and kind of like
the entrepreneurial journey.
But yeah, I think now you can look back and the impact is massive
that you've had on all of these different groups
that have been able to build on top of what you've created
with the pyramid.
Tons of artists and peoples whose,
their own lives are changed because you've been able
to do something leveraging what you've built, which is really cool.
I'm curious, what are, so I know that you're on some future missions. I know
that you just mentioned that you're gonna be on a lunar rover here soon.
What are the other next steps for life ship?
You know, is DNA going to come back on the menu?
Do you foresee that?
You know, I guess, yeah, where do you want to take this going forward?
going forward and how do you see life ship evolving?
And how do you see life ship evolving?
So we are
We're on an orbital mission later
The summer in like four or five months. So all the DNA
You know bunch of plant seeds are going on now and we'll orbit the earth about 2,000 times
So that that's just connecting with DNA and continuing to put
thanks out there. As soon as we, I've talked to space lawyers, like there's a lot of people
that have been around this conversation of when DNA can go to the moon and there's no legal reason
it can. It really is just the landing company is not wanting to risk their first mission to the moon getting
overwhelmed by negative media around this rather than around the cool cool science and stuff. So we have been
We're we're very optimistic that
We'll be able to send human DNA back to the moon over the next couple years
So we will we will send DNA as soon as we can.
We have to put digital DNA on it, so that's another way of doing it.
We are on this mission that's on a moon rover in November this year, it launches, and we're
putting another pyramid on it with the increased seed bank and DNA of other species,
and then doing art and doing all different other collections
on that as well.
So that'll be the next one.
And then I'm inspired by, I don't know
if we'll always do pyramids, but we do have
intermissions coming up as well in the next year to two years after that where we can put a bigger one on it.
And then a bigger one is going to become more and more accessible to the bigger things
to the Moon. And I believe we're very quickly going to reach an exponential with it where it's all
of a sudden monthly flights to the moon or even, you know, 100 flights a year or whatever.
I don't know if that's eight years away or 12 years away or what, but at some point it
will just be like an airplane ride and um
I go to Burning Man every year and I'm inspired by the show at Burning Man and I go really early
and I'm one of the earliest people there in my camp and uh you know we build a whole city on it
we built a giant temple and we built all sorts of stuff.
And I'm excited by missions starting to go to the moon,
where we're like, OK, we're going
and we're setting up a big cathedral, or a temple,
or a pyramid, or an art culture.
And then the next mission adds to that.
And it's all these communities. it's mooned out going.
It's how that community is going.
And so, yeah, I'm excited towards the future where we're building the community on the
moon and villages on the moon and then to Mars and eventually the stars and this whole path opening up and what
we're all doing, what we're all part of.
We're all here and it's happening quickly.
Like there's all sorts of companies and initiatives that are building the infrastructure and building organizations and
And now it's time to build now it's time to do this stuff. We have
incredible tools that are
like at our fingertips and
This is all just like all of a sudden
the frontier is open. And it's literally a few years away.
It's happening as we're speaking.
So yeah, I'm excited that we're all kind of in the right place at the right time.
And we're doing this together. This is a community movement for humanity and for the future of
species and the future of life in the universe. Yeah, grateful that that's the
time we get to live in and that we're all here drawn to these missions.
drawn through these missions.
Definitely, yeah. And I also want to throw out there too, so LifeShip is one
of the teams in the Space Acceleration Network and Ben I just want to say
you know like I'm sure there's people listening here in Discord and also
on social media, et cetera, that would love to be able to participate or support Lifeship,
you know, either in the form of bounties or part-time work or funding. And I see Ryan just dropped the link in there too. I guess, yeah,
how can the Moondock community today support what Lifeship is doing? What are the best
ways to get involved or to help build what you're making.
I'm working on more on-ramps and more ways for people to get involved. I think the best way
I have different kind of community initiatives, different calls. And, you know, we have different launches and different ways to be part of
it. And, you know, it was a big vision and we are working toward, there will be a DAO
at some point, there will be a token at some point. I don't know if that's this year or
several years. But yeah, we're working towards all these things. But I think the best way
is like a personal connection and email me at ben at lightsbook.com or in me on on this
board and kind of see what what what interest there is there and how we can collaborate.
And then I have an insider email list of people following the mission
and people more that are creators than it is.
And so, yeah, I think, yeah, get in contact
and we can figure out how to try and collaborate
and work towards these futures together.
Awesome. Cool. Well, I guess maybe before we close up, I think most people here already know, but Mundao worked with LifeShip to get a private key
on the surface of the moon,
and it's a multi-chain wallet on Ethereum,
and then we also did another one on Solana.
And the purpose of this is to create a retrieval bounty,
The purpose of this is to create a retrieval bounty.
So anyone in the world can help fund that future mission.
And it also goes towards supporting life ship monuments.
So 10% of the proceeds that are raised, once someone gets the bounty,
90% goes to the person getting the bounty,
and then percentage goes to Lifeship as well.
So the details are on that tweet.
Thank you, Ryan.
But yeah, it's awesome that I was actually just listening
to an early, early town hall way back in 2022 when we were discussing the idea of having a bounty on the moon.
And, you know, if it weren't for Ben and all of the work that he's done and putting this together, it wouldn't have been possible. So we're very grateful for having Ben support us in this initiative.
And yeah, I think that there's a substantial amount of mooney on there too. So hopefully someday
that the bounty amount is substantial enough to really incentivize someone to go out and grab it.
And I think that'll be a really exciting day. But yeah, I guess Ben, anything that we didn't touch
on or anything that you'd like to share with us, we didn't get to or how can people, you know,
I guess, follow along with LifeShip and follow you on socials?
What is the best way to get connected?
Yeah, I think, well, one thing to add is that I'm inspired and love being part of MoonDow.
I love being part of Moondow.
And yeah, definitely, definitely have,
have grown a lot and have learned a lot.
Love working with you, Pablo.
Love our journeys together.
And, you know, and really,
just a deep knowing that Moondal is doing something big and important as part
of this future landscape.
And so, yeah, excited for all of it.
I'm excited for how Moondal is having an impact within the space industry, for sure.
I think, ping me on any social media or connect with me
and then at LifeShip.com and, you know, I can add you to more insider email lists and all that.
And I'm just excited to continue on the journey
and our paths will continue to cross
and we're all working on it together.
Thanks for having me.
Awesome, yeah, thank you, Ben.
Cool, all right, well, we'll keep moving along with the regular town hall. We have got one
proposal. So thank you, Ben. Feel free to stick around or if you got to go, no worries too.
I'll pass it over to you, Ryan.
Awesome. Thanks, Bob. Oh, thanks, Ben. Yeah, super cool. I think that, you know, well,
there's a golden pyramid on the moon and, you know, Moon Down got to play a
role on this awesome, vicious mission. But yeah, we do have one new
proposal up this week. I'd like to invite Amy of the Prado up on stage.
Hey, can everyone hear me? How's it going?
Hey, Ryan, can you hear me?
Okay, awesome.
Yes. Okay. And I just want to say thank you again to everyone who helped me with this proposal.
This was my first proposal and so I thought it'd be good to just give a little bit more background.
I appreciate all the questions on how is this different than some of the other sponsorship that we've done
and the existing space content. So I'd love to introduce World Space Week to those of you who
aren't familiar with the organization. So World Space Week is one of the oldest, the world's oldest
space advocacy organizations. It was actually designated by the UN in 1999.
So there's a long presence,
well-respected in the space industry globally
across the European Space Agency, aerospace companies
from NASA all the way to the new private sector as well.
And each year there's a different theme
and this year's theme is living in space.
Last year's theme was space and climate change.
And just to give an example of the exposure
that World Space Week had,
it celebrated every October, October 4th through the 10th.
And last year had over 15,000 events in 88 countries
with 94 million plus social media impressions.
And so that I think is one of the differentiators on just the global reach that it has.
So I know New World was sponsored and a London Space and Sea Conference, which is always
great to have the in-person events.
Just calling out again the differentiator since I was asked, I think, and please correct
me if I'm mistaken, but those conferences had around a thousand attendees like in person. And
again, with last year's event was over 94 million social media impressions. And this year we're
really working on, you know, doing more innovative, tangible stuff like this VR experience, which I'll break down
in a moment, and working with fun collaborative brands. So another example, I can't say all the
people that we're talking to, but I think we all saw the great success that Axiom had with Prada
spacesuit. Like that's basically the model that we want to do for living in space this year
with World Space Week. It's such a great theme and it invites us
to be really creative and have fun brands.
So one example is Crayola Crayons had reached out
and so we're working on an art competition
with some other really big brands
that I can't say right now, but everyone would know
and they have billions of viewers on their stuff.
So the goal is really to make this as big and loud across as many platforms and across
many different things.
So the idea is to have this art competition probably May, summer, and then, you know,
leading up to the end of the year, there's a couple of things going on.
There's a science festival in Glasgow.
So we're also working with a UK media company to do custom educational content for the mission to Mars.
So that will be going on, promoted,
having a global digital competition
extended to 5,000 plus schools.
And so the big event that we're working on,
the tangible piece, and just for context,
last year we did telescopes.
There's a VR experience, which we're doing a couple of different
things. And I want to be clear on the specific proposal here is for the spatial element. So for the spatial element of
virtual reality, the, you know, what we care about is just as many people as possible being able to enjoy this and see it.
possible being able to enjoy this and see it. VR is really great for helping people understand complex topics and, you know, space is great that a lot of space folks are very friendly, but one of as I've been talking to, and we already do have events with museums,
but just sharing with the spatial concept that again,
this proposal is focused on,
I'm gonna break it down in spatial.
The spatial experience would be without a headset
so that it can be accessed on anyone's laptop.
We also do have some satellite sponsors, Viasat and USAT,
and we are talking about maybe using them
for some remote rural areas to help increase the broadband.
But really with the spatial content that we want to develop,
it's going to be a custom storyline.
So that's another differentiator that we
know that there's great space content out there.
In some of the VR work that we use for headsets. We are using, and you know, in Africa,
we have an African VR provider that we're working with to send 15 to 20 VR headsets with their
existing space content around Africa. But this set, what I'm asking for in the proposal, just to
clarify this spatial content, the difference here is that it's going to be totally
customized to what it would really be like at this point in time to leave the earth,
knowing that we have the commercial space stations being developed.
Each of them are already working with VR and we're having initial conversations with them.
Some have offered to potentially share their content.
So the idea here is it's more of a custom storyline
with what's actually happening in the real world now,
and also an educational component too.
So again, there's a lot of misconception in space
outside of space enthusiasm.
So we wanna really have this be a fun,
get everyone excited again about why we go to space
in a fun way. You know, there's so much to work with and help educate from launching from the Earth,
seeing the satellites and knowing the great work that satellites are doing now to lay the foundation
for everything that's coming. And, you know, even just reminder about lunar resources, like having
a storyline about that. And then like I mentioned,
going back to some of the custom storylines
with commercial space stations,
one idea we had is to leverage,
again, that fun educational piece
of explaining why we go to space,
like maybe doing a microgravity lab
so that people can actually see what's happening.
And so as I mentioned, the spatial piece is,
as long as you have internet, you'd be able to access it. So we, our events are held at schools, museums, space agencies, etc. And one that I can share that we are working with our board member on is this Smithsonian would be an example of something that we're in very early talks on. But that another great about Spatial is that we could use a dome at, say, maybe it's not the Smithsonian, but just leveraging the Smithsonian brand.
They have a million viewers on social media.
So, again, it's that cross industry amplification of what all of the things that
are going on with space that we're really looking to do with this.
And so I think I gave a hopefully good overview of what World Space Week is, the impact that it has,
the additional impact that we're working on getting this year. And you know, we really want
to get NASA involved. I don't know if anyone was at South by Southwest, they had a great VR,
VR propels deep space exploration.
I didn't get to attend, but I heard that some people went and they really enjoyed it.
So and I think one of the differences too is again, the spatial piece is not capturing
the VR piece.
So for now, I might leave that out unless anyone wants to talk about that.
Because I think this spatial piece is really about global accessibility to people who aren't traditionally
into VR, who aren't, you know, there's
going to be space enthusiasts who are jumping on board
on this.
But again, we're really looking for that broad access
to everyone in this.
And so I've always thought this would be a great idea
to take to Moondow.
And apologies,
it's only taken to this point for me to be able to put it into a proposal.
So the proposal is the exact cost of the VR provider and then the additional,
and I broke it out in the proposal.
So the exact cost, I'd initially just budget a tiny bit more for potential overages just
being on the safe side.
And then also an augmented reality filter and additional custom AI content.
Given where we are with crypto, and again, apologies on maybe some of my disconnects
on the original sponsorships that I was looking at.
I adjusted mine to just really be the cover, the exact cost.
And then again, it would be the exact cost for the VR provider.
And I think Ryan or Mitchie, you asked.
Yeah, it's a V. So I for the size to it, I used to work at WeWork at the height of their hyper growth.
So someone I worked with was actually part of the design team there and she has now started
her own company that she, they focus on virtual experiences.
EKRS, I believe, is the name of it.
I know that that was a question.
Sorry, I don't know if there's been any others that come in.
I think I've covered everything.
So I guess I'll open it up to anyone for questions.
And Pablo, Ryan, Mitch, please jump in.
If there's something that I didn't cover
that you think would be helpful, please let me know.
It'd be helpful just to go over the costs exactly. I know it's an ETH now, but yeah, obviously, if anyone has any, any questions, senators or members of the audience, feel free to, to jump up or put them in chat too.
I was going to say, Mitchie was really kind to explain to me that difference.
And I don't know, and apologies, Mitchie, Mitchie was going to help me with that.
So I don't know.
I know I need to adjust for it.
That's something that I'll work maybe with Mitchie on, but I do know he explained how
it would work. Because of right now it's about $15,000 equivalent in ETH.
Is that correct?
No, no.
Well, it's $15,000 USD.
So the thank you, Michi, for the update of the proposed amount.
And just also giving some additional clarification, because World Space Week is a nonprofit, we got 30% off.
So this is a cost that we got for the spatial components
being able to create our own custom storyline for $12,600.
That is the exact cost.
I'm happy, I have the proposal up here.
I'm happy to share that.
And I was gonna say, I can share.
I do have some mockups of other examples
because there's a difference of what the spatial content
would look like versus VR.
VR is of course the Holy grail.
And again, if I'm not explaining it totally correctly,
I'm happy to share with videos.
And again, we do have some,
am I able to share my screen?
I guess I don't know. It says I cannot share my screen I guess? I don't know.
No, it says I cannot share my screen. Oh I can. Okay. So I'm happy to share the
proposal and the videos of what they would look, you know again this is just
mock-ups and examples. Would that be helpful?
Yeah that'd be awesome. That was actually my question. If we could see maybe some some prior work that the group has done before. Yeah, but yes, I was sharing my screen, but you should be able to share now.
Okay, cool.
Trying to remember. In the meantime, while you're loading that up, another question that I had is about the
content itself within the, I don't know what to call it, VR video, spatial video.
So how would Moondow feature in there? And how would we communicate what Moondow
is doing within that? Because I guess that would be like where the impact comes from.
Yeah, so the thought would be like, Moondow has their branding all over the content. And
I mean, right, like maybe there's something if you're maybe not interested in,
maybe if this doesn't speak to you, like we've talked about, there's other branding
opportunities that we could do.
Like something we've talked about is like, we're also working on getting headsets
donated, but also possibly getting someone to sponsor it.
So like we could do a QR code on the, you know, we could do branding on the
headsets and like a QR code on the, you know, we could do branding on the headsets and like a QR
code for more information.
I don't think, I think to me the biggest audience size for this really is the spatial piece
because that's what anyone can access in a laptop.
So for me, I, and I just think that that's the piece that would be the biggest. If your logo is on there
and everyone's accessing it, if it's at the Smithsonian, we're going to be leaving.
Again, they've got a million followers on their socials. That's a really good branding opportunity
for me. To me, the best branding opportunity is the spatial content because we're going to be promoting it through many different chains throughout, leading up to the event.
And then also, it's custom content that we can continue using whenever.
So that's the piece that we could be...
Again, we're the storytellers here, so it's all custom.
So if there's something that, a storyline that you guys would like incorporated,
that's something that we're looking for sponsors
to work with to develop the custom storyline piece.
And then also, I know we've talked
and this offer stands regardless of, you know,
if this proposal passes or not,
but of course, Pablo Ryan or anyone from the Moondow team,
there's always offer if anyone's ever interested to
host live event online to explain more about MoonDow.
That's just another opportunity
regardless of whatever happens with this.
I'm struggling to use the share screens.
I see application screens. Maybe that's it. Do I just click go live?
Yes, I think so. Yep. Okay. Here we go. Okay. So do we see
my screen? That's good. Yep. Okay. Okay. So here's the example of spatial. So this was an example that they
did for a fashion show. And so again, we're still working on who we can partner with as
well or other brands that might be interested like us a fashion show in space. So because
it's again, the theme is living in space. So this would be the little person moving around. Sorry, I'm not that great at it.
So this is like an example of what it looks like.
And she did call out that this is not the,
the visualization ideal state is with the actual headset,
the VR component.
But again, our bigger concern is being able to get this experience to as many
people as possible.
And I mean, I think that this is still pretty great.
And we have the ability to create our storyline that we want.
Well, okay, actually, okay, I didn't know this was like a video game basically like
you can actually walk around in it and yeah, so you'd be like, okay, so okay, thank you.
Maybe that's like an example.
So like, let's pretend this is space.
And you know, like Moondow is an infrastructure layer.
So like maybe this is like learn about space infrastructure or you know, something and it's, you know, MoonDow's massive logo here or again, maybe they maybe your avatar has MoonDow t shirt with you at all times or you get to dress your little avatar.
And it's got, you know,
like brands here for the entire experience. So like, again, like, you know, like, if again,
we're in space, and this is the moon, like I mentioned, we'd be able to like have a lunar
resource exhibit here, you know, one of the commercial space stations we're talking
about, go do microgravity here, you know, steps up here.
So this is a spatial piece.
I can, there was some great Dove one that she shared.
This I think, can everyone see I changed screens to VR?
This is another one. I think that's the different, so I was like, I don't know if it's worth really going into this before I push plan this to your point, Pablo, another like we got the quote and I'll show it here just for full, you know, transparency. is the exact work proposal and you can see they gave us discounts.
So the main experience, the VR experience and headset is not what we're talking about.
I'll show that after.
This is what I'm focusing on right now, the VR experience web spatial.
So it was from 18,000 to 12,600.
The combo, like what we're working on trying to get more sponsors is this here.
The additional components, and I saw she adjusted
this, there was also a gaming component. So as you mentioned, it does look like a game.
And in the original draft, there was a gaming component, but we have, I think, enough work to
do our first year on this. And maybe that's another thing. like, there's also the ability to create our own app,
put in the app store, calling out the AR experience, the augmented reality. So originally,
again, I was looping in these two pieces to like the AR experience and AI content for the original
draft. But again, I've scaled back to really only focus on the spatial component because I do think that that's the biggest impact.
The VR experience is separate and I'll share that. Again, in the proposal there was other links and there was a different link.
So I think she might have changed this.
Oh, I'm so sorry. I just saw that we are a minute over time. So I apologize. I don't
know how to share it. Stop sharing my stream. I want to be cognizant of that.
We, we, we, yeah, we go over sometimes. It's no big deal. OK, sorry.
I guess another question that I have
is are there examples of maybe from past years with something
that we can map to and say, OK, this
was the impact of a very similar campaign at World Space Week
that we can look at and be like, okay,
we could estimate that this campaign
would have a similar level of impact.
Is there, yeah, maybe like any other links
or things that you could share there that would be helpful?
Yeah, let me, if you don't mind, like, I guess I'm wondering, just like, we have the stats
on like the events that were held, like the, you know, like 94 million social media impressions.
There was a telescope event last year.
In full transparency, this is the first year we've done something of like, we're really
trying to make this bigger this year. So
I will get more into and also full transparency. This is my first year, first year volunteering. So I'm learning as I go. I started in the at the end of the fall winter time last year.
So I wasn't really it was I kind of joined right after the that event happened. So I don't have
some of those stats right
now. I can ask for more information on the telescope thing because I know that that was
global. But this is kind of unique where we haven't done this before. But I think that
there, again, we got close to a billion views on social media during
that period. Like my goal personally is to like get at least a billion this year with
some of the people that some of the different cross industries are working with. And I know
we talked separately, Pablo, I can't quite share some of them yet. So I know that's not
totally ideal. But I can get back to you on the telescope.
Would that be helpful?
Yeah, yeah, that would be helpful.
Great.
Any other questions from anyone in the audience?
Or I guess Ryan, do you have any questions too?
Yeah. in the audience or I guess Ryan, do you have any questions too? Yeah, if you could just highlight,
well besides like the logos or things like that
within the spatial space,
could you talk maybe a little bit more specifically
about other ways that Moondow would be featured
or promoted, I don't know, I didn't read it in full detail,
but I was skimming through the proposal.
But if you could talk about the benefits for Moondown more specifically.
So I think that that's like the great thing is like, this is a custom storytelling piece.
So whoever, you know, the idea here is to to work with whoever is sponsoring on a custom storyline.
So when we were looking in that, you know, the fashion, the fashion store or fashion event in the desert, it looked
like the idea is you can showcase, we can have a component for a total custom storyline
for Moondow, breaking down the blockchain and making it really easy to understand to
people and then linking it, making making it, that's another on ramp
to me also. I could see this as an on ramp for more citizens joining the network and through the
experience being able to send the link and not just the spatial experience but throughout as we're
promoting it on our socials. So I'd also, I guess, and maybe this is something to think experience, but throughout as we're promoting it on our socials.
So I'd also, I guess, and maybe this is something to think about, but I would ask, you know,
the Moondow team, Ryan, Pablo, you know, you're on stage, anyone else that has an idea,
what you would want to present.
And like that's the other thing, maybe it's something where it's like, you know,
you do have some great names that's the other thing. Maybe it's something where it's like, you know, you do have some great names
that you work with too.
So it could be, you know,
just educating the general public on what Moomdao is
and like the different, you know, companies that are involved.
Showing the map would be really cool too.
Like look at our, you know,
like we have citizens from around the world.
Like again, that, I think it would be really cool
to do like a space for all messaging in the world. Again, I think it would be really cool to do a space for all messaging in the storyline.
So it's really custom on what storyline would you...
Do you have any thoughts on what you'd want to present now?
Well, yeah, I guess that's a good segue to... Right now, it's just kind of yourself on the pros or it's a sponsorship, I guess that's a good segue to like right now it's just kind of yourself
on the pros or it's a sponsorship, I guess.
But what what other help would you need besides crafting that kind of story?
I mean, what?
Yeah, what honestly, it would be help, I guess.
Yeah.
And Mitchie, apologies, not just the network, but the launch pad. And so the, let me see, probably lots of people
are budding ideas that need funding
who attend this conference.
So I don't, Michi, double checking.
So the people that attend this conference,
I don't know would be necessarily looking for funding.
Like this is more of a general public, like,
enjoyment piece.
So with this, like our idea is to have the vendor do the heavy lifting, like that's what the spatial cost and spatial VR cost that
I showed in the proposal that 12,600 is. So we would basically have a brainstorming session
with them. And we would talk about, you know, what Moon Dao is. And that's a thing she would
also be able to, or their team would be able to say,
okay, based on what you're telling me,
here's three different options
that I think that we could go with.
Like there would be a, say this word to move forward,
we would have a brainstorming session
on what type of storyline to develop.
You guys can come with ideas or not come with ideas.
You know, obviously,
what Moondow does and the offerings and what you'd want to highlight. And how to best onboard people
or have a link within the content or just explain what Moondow is. And so it would be,
I believe, and what I'm working on is a very minimal lift from whoever our sponsors are. It's just we want to, you know, whoever our sponsors are, work with them to develop a
custom storyline that they want to showcase.
And then their team will, like I said, help doing the, you know, you know, if there's
not anything specific, like they can help flesh out storylines and then they would be
doing everything. So this should not be a heavy lift to sponsor for this.
Well, I guess one, just one more question about how it kind of looks, I guess,
in implementation, are these all like separate individual isolated ones?
Like this is the Moondow one.
This is the other one.
Are they like interconnected into some like brand intersection or what I guess how does that look? Yeah, so it's like if we imagine back to the
fashion show in the desert, like it would be like components there and his and I don't know if
anyone was in when anyone was in Houston if anyone saw the ISS that virtual, I don't know
if it was virtual, yeah that was virtual reality. Like it would know if it was virtual. Yeah, that was virtual
reality. Like it would be, and we're still open designing it. So it could look like,
you know, you're opening instead of the fashion week, like you've landed on, you know, in
a commercial space station, or you start from maybe, you know, maybe Moondow just starts
from the earth. And like it's again again that infrastructure layer. So it should all be one story line that people can go in and go through different things
to see different sponsors and learn about different things.
Ryan or Pablo, did you get a chance to see the ISS VR when you were in Houston?
Oh, unfortunately I wasn't able to.
Okay.
I wish I had.
Because it's basically, it's one environment.
Oh, go ahead, Mitch, Mitchie, you might be able,
you might have.
I think Mitchie did it while he was,
but in Montreal or something, but yeah.
The infinity, you're talking about.
I was gonna say, Mitchie, I don't know if I answered your question about the funding
piece.
So please let me know if you need any clarification.
I don't know that I fully understood that, but I don't see this as people looking for
funding.
The people that partake in World Space Week are really space enthusiasts.
Oh, awesome.
I'm glad that you did it in Montreal.
So that's the idea of It's like this one environment
and you can go through, you know, like they have it structured as like chapters. I don't
know that we necessarily do that. It would be, you know, like from launch to maybe commercial
space station and then to the moon or something. And like we could have a gas station on the
moon. Who knows? And like that's a piece where it's like everything that Moondow does is about the infrastructure.
So it's to me, I feel like it's a synergistic thing to keep bringing up there is it would be like that's I think the
benefit of what this content is or differentiator is that it's very custom.
It's custom for storytelling and education and hopefully joy, right? Like that's like we want
to have people be really excited about this and have a great time and learn something at the same
time and have a new appreciation for space and all the great development that's
going on in it.
Awesome. Cool. Any other questions from anyone in the audience? I guess guess Amy, it's yeah, up to you. Like I said, you know, if
you wanted to take some of the sort of feedback from the town hall and then iterate on the
proposal and submit a final version next week, that works. Or if you feel like this is ready to go, you know, it's ready for vote, then you're
also free to submit it now and we can put this into the Senate. So your call, we could submit it now
or wait if there are any other tweaks that you want to make. I might default to your help table.
Just based on this is my first time doing the proposal,
I know I was able to get more context now.
I know that there's follow-up question about the telescope
piece that I need to get back to.
So do you mind maybe giving me a little guidance on what you
think would be best on that?
Great. be best on that? Right. Yeah, I think it could be helpful to give it maybe,
if there's no time pressure, give it a week for this other
information to come in and for us to dig in deeper
with more feedback.
I think that would be really helpful, at least for me personally,
and I imagine maybe some other people here in the audience as well. I don't know, that would be my
general recommendation. I think it's worth giving it some time to, you know, think on marinate. Yeah, totally understand. Well, this was a lot.
Okay, absolutely. Thank you. I, like I said, I really appreciate everyone's patience and guidance.
Clearly, it's my first proposal. So I will take that note to get the telescope information and then just, you know, wait for feedback to come in and be ready to, I guess, adjust or I guess the feedback will come on the proposal thread. Is that right?
Yep. Yeah.
Okay.
And then how would that work?
Oh, go ahead. Yeah, and then I was going to say, and then, you know, at that point, if we're feeling
confident, then it can be submitted into the Senate next week.
Okay.
And then I was going to say, you know, another thing I know that obviously with the crypto
position and things like that, and I don't remember who shared with me, there was the
recent C and Space conference in London. This was my mix up
on what it was proposed for and approved for. I know that was approved for less it sounds like.
So I guess, is it possible that it's, you know, maybe it's not the time, but like there's something
like I don't know if maybe you could share more on that, or if that's an offline conversation, I'm happy to take that offline.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if there's
anything concrete in terms of the numbers
or how we can work that out.
Yeah, I feel like it's a conversation that we should have
throughout the week and how we can make that work.
Okay, awesome.
Thank you all.
One last question, Amy.
What is the timeline here?
Is there a drop dead date basically or what are the time considerations for this?
This is like a three month build.
So it would be in, right.
It's leading up to world space week,
which is October 4th through the 10th.
We'd want it done before September,
just making sure that we're able to do the testing
ahead of time.
So we'd want it built by like August.
So August, July, June, like, backing up,
like the idea is to kick it off in May. So August, July, June, backing up, the idea is to kick it off
in May. So we do have, so ideally April, like the suit, again, just because of, we want
to make sure that we've tested this, this is a global experience. Ideally, I'd like
to kick it off in April. So there isn't necessarily a time crunch, but the sooner that we can kick it off, the
ideal timeframe would be April.
Probably the drop timeline would be kicking it off in May.
Cool.
Well, thanks, Amy.
I heard a link to the proposal thread here again, tag the center.
So, yeah, our centers could take a read through, provide more feedback, and
I guess we can revisit this next week or when it's ready to go up for a formal vote. Awesome. Thanks.
Thanks. All right. Yeah, I guess we'll shift gears and do some brief project roundtable updates.
We've got – we're missing a few centers here today but
I'll invite Robin and Christina up before I'll give it just a quick update. Iman was
here earlier but had to drop. Documentaries, we're kind of moving forward
with the follow-up edits. He's expecting the team, the documentary team got back
to us and said that they're looking to get a final kind of draft here next week
or an update.
So stay tuned for that.
Yeah, Bob, you want to take it away?
WBA?
It would help if I unmuted before speaking.
Yeah, so we're kind of in the holding pattern,
waiting for more concrete selections to be
made.
I have emailed as of today, Jazz at WBA trying to get connected with Paolo and Ryan just
to discuss sort of administrivia, encouraging them to set up a Web3 wallet so that they
can do the crypto off-ramp part.
So we're going to work out those details, but there's not a whole lot going on for the next
three weeks or so, maybe a month until we release the application. I think the application's in
pretty good shape. I'll probably in a week or so take a final look at it, update it to change based on more current information.
But I think we're in good shape to launch the competition.
So I think that hurdle's done.
And then I guess most of the work is yet to come
with reviewing the applications and running the competition.
So yeah, if anybody has any specific questions, send me DM.
But I think we're in holding pattern
until there's actually work to do.
So thanks.
Awesome.
Thank you, Bob.
Hey, Christina.
Any updates?
Good to see you here.
Any updates on C and space?
Hi, guys.
Yes.
Gosh, there's been so many things happening.
And I have been going nonstop.
So one big change since I last gave an update
was that the venue where we're hosting the Earth Day
celebration on April 22 donated two extra days to me.
I mean, I still have to pay for the venue on the 22nd,
but because it's Easter Sunday and it's Easter weekend,
we asked them to let us install early.
And we just were asking if we could install early.
And in doing so, they actually donated for us to open.
And so we'll be open on Easter Sunday and on Monday,
which is a bank holiday.
And that makes me really happy
because that means we can do more stuff to engage the public.
So like Sunday, Easter Sunday, I am not running that day because I don't even get to London
until that day with Nicole Stott, but it's an ocean day that's open to the public and
they'll have different ocean experts and ocean storytellers.
They'll be showing films.
They'll be doing presentations by some of these ocean
experts and then on Monday we'll have some a bit similar but it's the family friendly
day and Nicole will do a presentation and I got to look and see what other astronauts
are going to be there at that point but that's going to be the family-friendly day with at least Nicole doing a public presentation
for in the Piccadilly space along with the ocean experts that are there too. So there's other kind
of things that are that I haven't announced yet but I hope to announce probably tomorrow maybe,
which I have been talking to the guys behind the scenes, but I've just been trying to get a handle on all my sponsors and partners for the event, but we will
open up table sales and ticket sales to us. We'll have about, I don't know, three to five tables that
we're going to be able to sell. This is super, super exclusive VIP dinner that MoonDao is part of.
And we have at least seven astronauts in stage,
including, and in case people didn't know about the list,
we have Charlie Duke,
10th man to walk in the moon on Apollo 16.
We have Tim Peake, the UK astronaut.
We have Megan Christian, who's the UK reserve astronaut.
We have Nicole Stott, NASA astronaut.
Kathy Sullivan, who isON, one of the first
women, or the first American woman to do a spacewalk, and then in the first female group
of astronauts was Sally Wright, and she was the head of NOAA. We have Doug Hurley from the first
SpaceX crewed mission, who was part of the zero gravity flight also with Nicole and Charlie for
also with Nicole and Charlie for our MoonDow flight.
And then Chris Bushwizen, who flew on blue,
who is actually also gonna be really actively involved,
will give a public,
he really wants to do a public presentation,
but that'll probably be on Earth Day,
earlier in the day before the summit.
And then he'll be joining the investment panel,
actually with you, Pablo,
talking about investing in space and then he'll be performing also in the evening at the dinner. And now one really cool thing is we've just gotten
so much press interest and we haven't even really announced anything yet but the Channel 4 news
in the UK is a big national news station and they want to cover all of this and then do a live
feed of like the actual dinner in the evening. We'll be taking over the Piccadilly screen at
7 p.m. for a total Earthrise mosaic that we made out of kids space art. So that'll happen right at
7 p.m. UK time and I'm 99% there with Channel 4 News who wants to come and actually cover all of that live
and cover the summit and they'll cover the dinner as well. I think those are the main updates,
there's probably more I'm forgetting but those ones are pretty big ones. So three-day activation,
we'll have some big press there and I'll be announcing tickets and table sales and the stuff is already up
on the website at spaceforbetterworld.com but I haven't done a big
announcement yet because I was just trying to make sure unlock some things
that before I do the official announcement but I'll be sending out a
press release here sometime in the next few days.
Awesome thanks Christina yeah I shared the link to the events page on the Space for
a Better World website so people can check that out. Yeah, sounds like a really awesome
event as always that you do. But yeah, Pablo, any update from your end on Launchpad and
token distribution? Yes, so on the Launchpad front, yeah, we, after having a bunch of
conversations with some of the Juicebox protocol guys, we've kind of gotten to
like a final design or architecture for the actual tokenomics for the launchpad. So it's great to have that
cleared up. And so, yeah, now we're kind of deep in sort of like the heads down territory of just
implementing a lot of those features. So yeah, a lot of things kind of coming together now
at the end of the quarter with the launchpad. So yeah, that's exciting.
And then with the token management, yeah, we're still working on setting up those liquidity
pools and doing the fee routing.
That's actually going to be also incorporated into the launch paddits as well. So we'll kind of get two birds with one stone there.
And yeah, I mean, I think it's also worth mentioning,
even though it's not directly related to the Treasury
Management, that we have resolved the issue with Skyline Bank and were able to
on-ramp some fiat into Ethereum and then move that into the Treasury. So you might have seen
like 50 ETH that came back into the Treasury. So that was part of the Zero Gravity flight sales.
And so we're so happy to finally be done
with that whole chapter of kind of going back and forth
around the Fiat on-ramping.
But yeah, it's working great end to end.
And yeah, now we've kind of unlocked the capability.
So that's really great.
But yeah, that's basically it on my end.
I'll pass it back to you, Ryan.
Cool.
Yeah, thanks, Pablo.
Yeah, obviously, thanks, Christina,
for bearing with us for all this time, too,
for the Zero G flight and that payment.
Good to finally get some movement there, for sure.
I have the Mooney to the Moon on the agenda here too.
I mean, Pablo and Ben kind of discussed this a little bit
earlier, but there's not been any real kind of development
for any changes for the past week.
There's still some kind of tokens and funds.
I have seen some small activity there.
There's even like a Uniswap position that's come into one that's generating wrapped ETH
and a token there for a liquidity pool, which is kind of funny, within the wallet.
But yeah, we'll go up there.
I guess we'll see how long it takes to actually get it back.
But yeah, that's all we've got on the agenda here this week.
Thanks, everyone, for joining us.
We can move over to the Major Tom channel
if we wanna just chat informally
and have like a more informal conversation.
I guess one other quick update we do have
until I believe April, we're wrapping up the quarter here.
So obviously submit any community contributions
that you made throughout Q1.
Remember, they don't have to be specific to Moondow.
They can be more related to our broader mission of having a base on the moon and making life
multiplanetary, but you should submit any contributions that you made during Q1 from
the beginning of January to the end of March, you'll be eligible to get rewards, community rewards from the from the Moondow community which comes in the
form of ETH and V-Mooney voting power. So yeah be sure to get those those your
work and your proof of work. Yeah thanks everyone for joining us and we'll see
you next week same time time, same place.
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