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Best Kaito Space Yet w/ Polygon
Recorded: July 30, 2025 Duration: 1:01:51Space Recording
Short Summary
Polygon's recent Kaito leaderboard launch and strategic partnerships are set to enhance community engagement and content quality, reflecting a significant growth trajectory in the crypto space. With a focus on stablecoin adoption and innovative yield mechanisms, Polygon is positioning itself as a leader in the evolving DeFi landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Dang, Smokey, no music.
I feel like I'm at the dentist's waiting room right now.
I know.
I'm off my game, brother.
I'm off my game.
In an Airbnb, so don't have the setup.
But great to see everybody.
Thanks, everyone, for joining.
We have got a very special guest, actually, a couple of them.
But it is my team, the Polygon team.
So really excited to dive in and talk about the recent Polygon
Kaito leaderboard launch. So I think very, very, very excited to see some new creators
talking about Polygon and all the great things that have been happening over these past year.
So, but before we get started, if everyone could go on up to the very top part of the space,
you will see the link to the spaces.
If you could hit that like and retweet button,
it would be greatly appreciated.
Get some more folks in here.
So we actually have got Mark,
who we will be asking some questions,
but then we actually will also be having Sandeep join us, hopefully,
who will be able to talk a little bit about some of the major updates
and upgrades that have happened to Polygon.
But before we get started, let's throw it on over to my wonderful co-host, Walls.
Walls, how is it going today?
Hey, brother. Today is extra special.
We all know that. Very, very excited.
I'm glad that we managed to get this huge space up today.
I've already had the pleasure to meet a lot of the core team members of Polygon IRL,
and it's been a pleasure.
I can only say such positive things
about them I see quite a few of you guys in the space shout out to Nil among the guys
I even have some Polygon merch so let's just say I'm a bit biased I love everything that
Polygon has been doing from the way they position themselves within the community and social media to the way they treat other people and influencers and stuff like that.
Me personally, and merch, right?
This isn't the first and hopefully not the last merch I've seen.
And let me tell you, even the merch stands out among the other other things I've gotten from other projects so
Polygon is built different so really looking forward to diving deeper and getting to know
what makes Polygon stand out of the all the other projects and really happy to to finally have
Polygon join Kaido this is a big a big move and a testament to the success of InfoFi, in my opinion.
So I'd really also like to talk this over.
But Smokey, how are you doing?
What are you feeling?
Doing well, man.
I mean, super excited about Polygon joining Kaido along with Katana.
It's been really great just to engage with the community
and see all the different creators.
I think, yeah, we've been seeing
some really, really great content come out of Katana.
We've been seeing our CEO, Mark,
engaging with the community like a madman.
I don't know if he ever sleeps.
And a lot of the employees have been doing that. But before we dive into it with Mark, I do want to check on in with a couple of the,
some members of the Polygon team. We've got Ruto up here, who is leading the Kaito campaign for Polygon along with myself.
And just want to check in with him and see how he's doing
and let us know what you think about this new initiative.
I actually just paid Smokey like 100 yaps to do all the work.
So, yeah, I've just been kind of chilling, sitting back and relaxing.
But it's funny, I'm like on this weird high right now because I've been on three different
spaces today talking about InfoFi and just talking about Kaido in general today.
So I've heard every single take under the sun.
I'm excited to give back any rebuttals that people might have today as well.
So yeah, it was a great launch.
I think things are only going to get better too.
So tune in. I can't say more than that. I think things are only going to get better too. So
tune in. I can't say more than that, but yeah, things are going to get better.
Yes. I mean, we saw a major update with Kaito that came out today. You know, that is a quality
filter, it seems like, and it seems quite controversial. It seems like, you know,
for the most part, some people think that, hey, this is a big step forward for projects that are,
you know, paying the money to use the platform. And people think that it'll really
help with the ROI. So we shall see. So it's, I'm excited for the changes. You know, I think,
So we shall see. So I'm excited for the changes. I think there is some serious competition that's coming out for Kaito and InfoFi, which in the end just benefits the users and the projects that are using the InfoFi platforms.
But all right, well, let's check on in with Neil. Neil, how's it going, sir?
on in with nil nil how's it going sir doing excellent my friend i'm sitting here in cloudy
and rainy chicago i am traveling currently to the national which is the world's largest
sports collectors conference and highlighted by courtyard being one of the sponsors here so i'll
be spending some time with the team i'm'm also targeting a few different teams to onboard into Polygon and start having some conversations on the RWA side. But
this is really exciting and I'm feeling great energy. And coincidentally, a few days ago,
I listened back to a space that I hosted over 19 months ago. I know that's crazy,
listening back to a space. Nobody does that. That's not a thing. But I was in my analytics and i was like poking around i was like oh my god when's the last time i really host
a big space um and it was called like the state of the polygon union or something like that the
polygon state of the union and like a bunch of people on this stage were there like nofu was
there the engineers at the next level plaques is on stage, Mark was speaking. And the one thing that really stood out from all of
this conversation was the evolution and the vision that the team has. And this was prior to myself
actually working at Polygon, but it's still holding true 18 months ago. The idea of becoming
less general purpose and more hyper-focused, the idea that we need to ensure that our people know our vision
and the direction that we're going in,
that was the big emphasis points that Mark was making
because back then when we started,
I'm not saying this was easy to onboard,
but we were easily the number one option
where people didn't even have to think about going through all the channels
to search for which chain to go to.
Now there's so much more cloudiness in this.
Do I still think we're the best option?
Absolutely.
It's not even a question in my mind.
But it was just because it was a right place, right time scenario.
And now it's time to get back to work, get back to our origin of how the community started, of giving back, of really building on part of the education that we know and love about Polygon.
So it's an exciting week for us, obviously.
I'm really happy to be here with some OGs.
I just really believe in the purpose of why we're out here.
And I'm ready to get after it.
I appreciate you a ton, Mokian Wallace, for all that you do for us here, too.
Love it. Thanks, man.
For everybody in the audience that does not know Nill, he's great.
You guys should all go and give him a follow. I call him Coach Nill because every single time that he speaks
on a space, he just gets me ready to run through a wall and just motivates the entire room.
So thanks for that, Nill. But look, we have got Sandeep up on the stage. So I'm going to ask some questions to Sandeep.
And then I'm going to throw it on over to Mark after.
But Sandeep, how are you doing?
I am actually not doing that great.
Because, you know, just now you guys must have seen that there were some RPC providers which were having some issues
and then you know due to that like you know I was very on top of that situation like you know how
it is unfolding and all that so that's like a little bit stressful because as you know that
Polygon POS is like you know probably the most adopted you, chain and has so many applications, you know, Polymarket and Courtyard and many of the ones.
So, you know, it just needs 100% of the uptime on, you know, 100% of all kinds of infra and all that.
So, you know, so it was like stressful two, three hours.
Well, I appreciate you making the time, Sandeep, to come on the space while you're dealing with all of that. But, you know, it leads me to my question, you know, if you wouldn't mind talking about some of the most recent upgrades and direction that Polygon has been taking.
has been taking yeah that the direction you know i mean as we have you know consistently
stated that you know in terms of the products polygon pos and ag layer are our core focus
in terms of the product in terms of the use cases uh ongon POS, the extensive, extensive, you know,
focus is on growing the payments
and stablecoin related things.
And I think many of you guys
are constantly seeing that the numbers,
the on-chain numbers,
and, you know, they are,
you know, we are experiencing,
you know, double- experiencing, you know, double digit growth every month.
And, you know, stablecoin supply also, you guys recently saw that we surpassed our 2021 stablecoin supply, you know, TVL on the chain recently.
And it keeps on growing.
And so that's the focus, like payments and stablecoin on Polygon POS.
And then AgLayer is basically our interoperative solution
because we strongly believe that
the world is going to be a multi-chain world
and fragmentation is going to be a very big issue.
And so creating that AgLayer,
which kind of creates a unified experience and unified liquidity across the board for, you know, for the whole ecosystem.
That's the intent and the goal. And that's where we are pursuing, you know, the objective. That's the core focus area. Those are the core focus areas.
Can you talk a little bit about the giga gas uh roadmap and and for anybody that wants
to learn more about it i actually put uh up at the top of the space uh some a good place to start
for making content about polygon but if you want to talk a little bit about the giga gas roadmap
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so i mean i i you know how can i miss that so when i said that on the
product side the polygon pos and aglera the focus on the pos uh you know last six eight months like
you know we have done some you know quite extensive engineering upgrades and all that like
which were in the making for quite some time and we were testing testing testing and then
you know last six months we decided that you know a
lot of these you know changes and upgradations that we are doing internally we need to start
rolling them out and last three four months have been really really good and we have already rolled
out uh you know multiple updates the most prominent of them took the TPS on Polygon PS Chain to around 1000 TPS.
And the finality, which previously reorgs were a very big issue,
I think the latest update has brought down the reorgs to less than 5 seconds.
So that is like, you know, less than 2 seconds, 2 of uh this thing of the reorg uh protection and uh
similarly uh like now the current current upgrades that are being worked upon uh those are going to
take the polygon ps chain somewhere in the october you know september october or early october time frame to 5000
tps which you know essentially like you know the the goal is to take it to a giga gas
and you know that should result in like so next focus next area is that we go to 5000 tps
and from 5000 tps then over next one to two years we you know take it to a you know giga gas which could
you know i think can can result in 50 000 to 100 000 transactions per second that's the continuous
upgrade goal for polygon pos especially as the payments are going to intensify and a lot of, you know, payment providers are going to start using these chains.
You know, that's where the focus is.
And then we need the maximum amount of scalability on the chain with lowest possible transactions, costs.
And yeah, that's the giga gas roadmap that we have talked about recently.
Very exciting. Thank you for that, Sandeep. And for people that want to learn more about that,
as I said, up at the very top of the space, you can see a link to the GigaGas roadmap.
D-Engineer also shared his post about it. So go and check that out. But thank you for that explanation,
Sandeep. And I think, you know, just the last thing for you, you know, I think you're one of
the most active founders on X, I would say. And just within, you know, the general crypto community,
you're one of the most supportive founders of people's content.
I have notifications on you and for you.
And there'll just be like times where it's just like,
you're just running through polygon tweets,
just retweeting them like a madman.
Can you talk like a little bit about that?
Like the importance of like, you know,
staying active on X and what benefits that provides you as a founder?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty straightforward that, you know, the crypto community lives on like the crypto communities, public life is on X and, you know, private lives are on Telegram.
private lives are on telegram and you know in terms of those dms and all that chats groups
are telegram and then you know feed is uh twitter and then it's it's very important to you know have
the pulse or to know the pulse of the community and uh and yeah like some of the top most you
know supporters many of them are you know i can see there are on these spaces they are they're
supporting polygon especially you know in the last one one and a half years probably two years
like polygon has gone through a lot of transition phases like they're on the token ticker changing
so many changes in the leadership roadmap changing all these things and some of the people here, they have supported Polygon all through.
And we have seen a lot of new team,
community members joining in,
seeing some of the growths happening
on the various aspects and all that.
And we are seeing more new people coming in.
But then many OGs have also been there
supporting Polygon, even in the worst of the days. So I think that's very valuable. coming in but then the you know many ogs have also been there uh supporting polygon you know
even in the worst of the day so i think that's very valuable and i value that a lot and whenever
i see uh you know our friends uh you know posting
oh we might have we might have lost sandeep walls can you not hear him yes okay i do have
question though oh you're back sandeep sorry we lost oh in between i cut off yeah well i was just
like i was just finishing there was some issue on my phone so yeah just finishing with the this
thing that you know the people who have you you know, always been there for Polygon and all the amazing people who are joining now and, you know, fresh in this new wave, you know, just want to support them and make them feel heard also.
So, yeah.
Amazing.
Speaking of Twitter being the core place for attention for everything
Just got to give it to the Polygon team for organizing probably the best the best team presence on
socials ever
Period. I don't know a better project that has as many vocal and notable
Team members on Twitter than any other big chain protocol
you name it so first of all hats off to you guys I know that that took a lot of
work a lot of dedication probably if not months but years of consistency to get
these results but now you're here so So, Sandy probably jumped off, right, with the connection issues.
But Smokey, would you mind sharing a bit more about this experience
and how it started and where you guys are right now,
what maybe the bigger goals are?
And just give us a bit of light on all this
because this is just in my opinion amazing just
absolutely noteworthy and worth implementing for any project that considers themselves big
yeah i mean i think um you know activity on socials has always been encouraged at polygon
at least you know since i've been here here over the past two and a half years.
And, you know, that can be on X. You know, we've got Neil that's just, you know, he's doing the
Lord's work over on, you know, TikTok and trying to convert the XRP army to be Polygon lovers.
You know, but I think, you know, there's a real benefit to engaging with the general
crypto community, uh, and, and what like current trends and metas are happening.
Right.
And, and I think like doing that on X is, uh, you know, just so important.
So I think, you know, it's just always been something at Polygon where, you know, uh,
it is encouraged, uh, to have a strong social presence and stay consistent.
And I think, like, it starts with, like, the top down.
You know, we see it from Sandeep.
I mean, Sandeep is, you know, one of the most, if not the most active founder on X.
And then we see it also from Mark,
our CEO,
who is also very active and consistent
with engaging with the community, posting on X,
saying his general comments just about
things that are going on in the space,
even having some battles
with some other
project founders who we will not name.
Too many battles.
Go ahead, Sandeep.
But basically, like, you know, I think on this one, especially like, you know, when you said that a lot of, like, you see that a large number of Polygon team members are now active on
on Twitter and I think a lot of that credit goes to Mark like I've tried that with Polygon
you know for for Polygon Labs like you know for quite some time and I could never
you know kind of in a more engaging way could get people to really like you know post and be inspired by posting but I think
Mark with his you know
both HR and the marketing team
with Leon and everyone else like you know
I think you guys Smokey
you guys have been able to create a
sustainable culture now inside
which actually
encourages everyone like not like you
know in the past whenever Polygon
people actually talked
about twitter it was like generally me saying on slack that guys i need uh please some support on
this or please retweet something then you know people reluctantly will do it but i think something
some magic uh you know mark and team has done that now i can also you know agree that uh we are
probably the as a team as a project like we are probably the
most active uh you know team on on twitter as a whole as a project so from my side credit goes to
mark yeah and like i i'll just pass that credit on like the credit just comes down to like smoky
ultimately so uh i think smoky was asking that question so that we could just uh lean right in
to telling him how good he is.
But look, this stuff always comes down to like, it's actually really simple.
It's like, we want to do this for a long time.
We talked about the importance of it.
And then it always comes down to just hiring.
And you hire a great person like Smokey.
And Smokey cares about some of our values.
Hopefully all of them, Smokey, including one of them, which is to take ownership.
And he's like, you know what? I'm going to freaking make sure that people do this.
And he made it happen. And so all credit to Smokey and frankly, everyone else in Polygon
who takes the time to actually do it. I love that. I'll open that up even just a little bit
more. But thank you for the kudos, Mark. and uh yes that is the reason why we brought it i brought it up just just so that you can lean into that but
um we actually you know we we have a little social growth program uh which is uh run by the social
media team and it encourages you know uh the polygon team to be active on X, you know, kind of like gives them some, some tips and tricks,
you know, of, of, you know, content to post. Uh, and then there's actually like a tool that we
built internally, uh, to track, uh, just polygon employees. Right. And kind of to help them to
understand like, Oh, how many times are you replying? Like what, what type of content are
you putting out? So I think, um, yeah, the social media team has been super great.
We've got Kim Rohn and Sky and now Ruto.
But they've been doing a great job with the social growth program.
But I do want to hand it on over to Ruto.
He's had his hand up for a while.
Go ahead, Ruto.
Yeah, I know.
It's funny because I haven't been on the team super long time.
I was hired on originally in November on the marketing team. But I remember, Smokey, you and I chatted about this a little bit in Miami. And we basically mentioned how important it is, I think, for teams to have people who are active on Twitter or even other socials in general. I think for as someone who's being on the team directly working on products, directly
working on campaigns, I think whenever you people see you on the timeline, you're obviously a voice
of someone who really understands the product that you're working on. So it makes sense that
if you are working on something in Web3, that you want to have some sort of voice so that
it acts as like separate different arms for whenever you're
looking to get distribution on some stuff. So I remember telling people on our growth
meetings that I would say, look, you're hired on or you're here at Polygon for a reason. You
obviously have a set of skills and you're also really valuable when it comes to the type of
thing that you're working on here at Polygon. So why not talk about it?
It's the easiest way to get people into your ecosystem too because if they see you talking about stuff on the timeline,
they're like, oh, wow, this person actually works at Polygon.
I wonder what's going on in the ecosystem.
So it just acts as like another,
almost like another marketing arm
without even have to be
like a whole marketing campaign in itself.
So I'm glad to see half of our team
or most of our team are super active on different socials. I mean, Nils, he's been covering ground
on TikTok like a madman. So it's good for people to see that, honestly.
Absolutely. Yeah. I think just for the community to have all these different touch points is very powerful.
It's like a really wide net where if somebody has questions, they really feel like they can reach out to a team member at Polygon.
And I think that that's super great.
But look, I do want to kind of switch gears a little bit here.
I want to throw it on over to Mark. And I want to ask you,
Mark, you know, what has your experience been, you know, with Katana having a Kaito leaderboard?
How has that been for you? And like, what benefits have you seen, you know, Katana as a chain receive
with a Kaito campaign? Yeah. so as you know, Smokey,
when you ask one of these questions,
I'm going to give you the good and the bad.
And both of those definitely exist, right?
And it's worth talking about both.
Look, I think the good is really obvious, right?
Like we, like Katana was something
that was in stealth for quite some time
with very little knowledge about it.
And I think all the yappers did a great job of getting the word out.
And that was like incredibly successful in doing that.
I think that a unique thing about Katana compared to almost any interest chain is just like how many,
like maybe in a way complexity, but I'd say more it's like just the amount of
different things that you can actually talk about,
and that you can educate people about,
and that you can go and try out for yourself,
and talk about that experience,
and how it can get better,
how it's already good.
There's a lot that you can do on that front.
So the community actually doing that and talking about
all of these different angles,
I think is really, really good.
I think that I posted this on X the other day.
I do think that you need to think
about Kaido differently based on
the chain that you're talking about and that people are
yapping about and what you're actually targeting.
You think about Katana, it starts off and just frankly, I don't care what it, I didn't care
what anybody said, just say stuff so that Katana is actually known to people to actually exist.
It didn't really matter. But with time, like as more and more people have learned about Katana,
With time, as more and more people have learned about Katana, you start needing that to change.
You start not needing the exact same explanation of what is this token and what's its role there.
And you start needing things that are more like, hey, let's talk about the experience here.
Let's talk about why I like using Katana.
Giving something that is a little bit more than just, hey, this is some basic fact about Katana.
By the way, not that those are actually bad,
like there's new people that see your posts,
but it's not as big value-add.
So I think that evolution is happening.
You still see the basic posts and stuff,
but you definitely see a lot of people that are
getting into the details around their experience on Katana, which I think is really, really good.
I think the hard part about it is the noise, which everybody also knows about.
And specifically, I will say that the state of my notifications and DMs is like such a disaster. And everyone wants you to interact with everything.
And so they tag you on every single thing under the sun. Whereas like typically they tag you on
just like more useful stuff. And so that part's been really hard. And then the second part is
people will say anything, which I said at the beginning, I was totally fine with.
But the problem is that as that evolves, they're saying things that are just wrong, which, by the way, this is just like it's not a title problem.
Right. It's just like it's a social media problem. It just exists always.
And it is definitely like amplified because you care a little bit less about what you say, whether it's right or not, as long as you're getting kind of the engagement that you want.
Arguably, actually getting things wrong
is better for engagement than getting it right.
So that's been the hard part about it,
but like all in all, when you just look at the trade-offs,
it's much more valuable to have people talking about you,
especially if you guide them in the right direction
than it is when people are staying silent.
I love that.
Yeah, and I think, you know,
we're witnessing the evolution of InfoFi
where they're starting to put in
some of these different features
to be able to kind of guard against people
just saying the same thing over
and over. But also though, like I think just from the Katana team being so active on X,
it has really helped to shape the content. And then there are some plans to even further,
you know, help some of these creators with their content.
So stay tuned for that.
That is coming very, very soon.
So I'm really excited for some of those updates.
But thanks for that, Mark.
But go ahead, Ruto.
Yeah, and it's funny that the timing of our Kaido launch just so happened to occur when Kaido made an update that they're basically taking out
kind of like the AI slop, like Kaido farming style of creators. And so there's most of the
InfoFi or Kaido spaces I've joined today is people ask me questions in regards to that.
And I basically told them, I said, look, at the end of the day, Kaido is a marketing tool. It's a B2B
business. And in order for businesses to get value out of the marketing tool, they need actual users
and they need an uptick in on-chain metrics. So the reality is that everyone's saying these
small creators are no longer getting access to rewards when I always, my rebuttal there is that, well, look, like good quality content is
subjective. Like if I make a good song, if I make a quote unquote good song, but no one hears it,
should I get, it could be a good song, but if no one hears it and do I get paid for it,
the answer is probably not. So it's funny that we launched our Kaido campaign at the same time
that all this, this craziness is happening.
So I always try to give people a little bit of advice on getting gaps or making it onto leaderboards.
It's essentially like, don't create content about Katana or Polygon just for the sake of getting rewarded.
I think if you're just organically talking about things you're interested in or actually participating on chain with,
people are going to just immediately gravitate towards that
or resonate with the content.
So just for the people who are tuning in,
who want to make it onto Kytolita boards,
good quality content is content that gets impressions,
that actually gets some conversion,
that gets people actually having a conversation
about the stuff that you're doing.
So just a little tidbit there, because I'm sure people were going to ask it later, sooner or later on this space.
I also think on that point, like the, I think, not so popular thing to say is that people like people want Kaido to like favor small creators over large creators.
Except like that's just literally not
how the world works um like the people what are people paying for like you pay people for um
distribution of information so that it can attract new users and somebody who has 100k followers
if you go and you think that they make good content for you,
and you go and you ask them how much you're going to need to pay them to create content for you,
and then you go ask somebody who has one-tenth of the followers the same thing,
the person with the larger follower can very much extract more dollars than the smaller one.
And there is literally no reason why Kyto should be different.
It's a tool as Ruto just talked about to get people to use your product and learn more about your product.
And those who have greater distribution are literally more valuable.
That's like literally just like a market reality.
Now, what does that mean for small accounts?
It's what you you start.
You do all the time is you grind and grind,
creating good content.
You get recognized, more people follow you,
and that's it.
There's no like shortcut to it.
The example that I'm going to give so I can take a fun knock on this is my poor 20k account and sandeep's 300k account and you know i'm on sandeep's heels you
know um i i'm just gonna say that it must be that i have better content than sandeep
um but you know i'm not complaining about it sandeep can be ahead of me
i've uh i've seen you guys battling it out dude you know what's funny is
where did you say mark like you are on my heels sorry where i last i checked like you have
how many followers i'm talking about the leaderboard that's that's that's the one that's
what counts yeah what's the leader i think you are you're farming the leaderboard or hacking the leaderboard by some form dude of course mark you know what's insane is i got i told people you get rewarded
uh you get rewarded in proportion to the value you create and people like
the lip they like put torches to my face i was like how is that such a hard concept to understand it's just crazy
yeah and you know what which are what are the tweets which are considered by kaito like you
know if i simply took post polygon or anything if i tag a zero x polygon it's considered in the
leaderboard yeah so it's just it it's talking about general polygon concepts.
So we did give keywords
to the Kito team.
We don't share exactly
what those keywords are
with the community.
But we just hope
that they follow content.
It's okay.
You can share with me in DM.
You know, like,
I just want to make sure
I win for Mark.
No, it's okay.
Yeah, so, I mean, I don't understand.
Like, you know, I mean, I'm making, like, you know, putting, like, 10 tweets for Polygon.
Like, still, if I'm not on the leaderboard, then there is some real problem with this scheme you have designed.
I just broke-tacked it to make sure that katana was considered a keyword as well i think mark only
i think mark only decided which are the keywords and he's going to use those keywords it's a rigged
game i just want to say this back and forth is like so perfect for how we actually handle things
and like you saw diana tweet earlier like mark or
like sandeep i'm coming for you on this leaderboard like diana has like a fraction like literal
fraction of the followers that mark or sandeep does but her reach just based off the value she
provides as a marketer is insane right and so like this is the mindset that our team is approaching
this with it's not about
like oh we're gonna farm the leaderboard and like we don't get any of the rewards we're not like
gonna extract value that way that's not that's not what we do ever it's more so that like we
get motivated by certain things and the fact that we can transmit like great information get it out
to our people and they can understand it better so they can create better content it's a win-win for us and i'm i'm excited i'm hungry as all hell to get after with the people
out here as a person from outside of the polygon team um i'm giving you guys a suggestion maybe you
run some internal campaign to actually battle uh for the for the kaido space within the team and
then i mean it's coming out of Sandeep's pockets,
but yeah, it might be effective, you know?
You guys have a lot of voices.
Everyone is pretty influential,
and that's an extra motivation for you all.
So, yeah.
Dude, that's actually smart,
because technically we're not,
we obviously don't get access to any of the Kaido rewards,
but that actually might be really interesting.
Smokey, maybe we should chat with Kimron and talk about how we can have our own internal
Kaido leaderboard and see who ends up winning.
I would love that.
You know, we actually have talked to, just like on a side note about that, talked to
the Kaido team about them having basically like Web3 employee,
like leaderboard, where you could see how like Web3 employees stack up at different companies
against each other and how influential they are. So I don't know if they're building that,
but I would love to see, you know, how the Polygon team stacks up against some other teams.
I think we would absolutely crush it. But yeah, internally, I think it would be great to have a little side competition going on the Kaito leaderboard.
We definitely haven't implemented that now, but I think that that could be pretty great to be able to see.
They're pretty strong contenders.
I just want to say really quick, I still haven't earned Kim Run's follow.
I just want to say really quick, I still haven't earned Kim Run's follow.
So I don't know if Kim Run's in the space right now,
but I'm definitely trying to get that follow.
He only follows you if you're in the top 10 leaderboard, brother.
So I'm sorry for that.
All right, sounds good.
I'll see you guys later.
Have a great day.
Thanks for coming out today, guys.
Do, do, do, do.
Dude, just repost your TikTok videos on
Twitter. I've only seen you do that twice.
Come on, man.
Dude, I was anxious. People
over here have an impression that I'm like some
sort of like serious businessman.
You know what I mean? And so over there, I'm a silly goose.
So like I gotta like, I gotta cross
pollinate. You're absolutely right. And they did well too.
Both of them did pretty well. So I just need to get over myself
a little bit.
Okay. All right, guys. I need to hop to another call
You know, I'm already ten minutes late. It was really amazing talking to you guys
And yeah, please keep liking and retweeting my tweets. Please make sure that I win from mark
Alright, thank you guys. Thank you. Bye-bye. Cheers for joining. It means a lot.
Well, that was super great.
Yeah, I love the back and forth between Mark and Sandy
and just the whole team.
As you can see, Polygon has a great culture.
It's a really fun place to work.
But, yeah.
No, I think, look, super excited about polygon launching a kaito leaderboard
it's a post tge leaderboard is very different from a pre-tge leaderboard especially for a chain that
is as established as polygon uh so we're going to be doing some things to kind of, you know, organize the creators a
little bit to do some education. So stay tuned for that. Myself and Rudo and also Timmy, who just
joined, will be reaching out to some creators, talking to folks, you know, kind of helping
understand some of the different parts of Polygon. We've also got some really great creators up here
that have been super supportive of Polygon for a very long time.
We've got NoFuturistic, we've got Twan, we've got DeEngineer,
we have Plax that have been making really, really great Polygon content.
So everybody should go and definitely give NoFuturistic, DeEngineer,
Twan, and Plax a follow.
They have been just supporting Polygon
over the years. I know this is a really big space. And if you guys are interested in getting on the
Polygon leaderboard, that is a great place to start. But I do want to throw it on over to some
of the Polygon community members and just talk about their experience and, and,
you know,
what they're thinking with the Polygon leaderboard launching.
And let's start off with no futuristic.
Heck yeah.
Good morning,
friends.
Also.
Yeah.
I'm trying to grind up the Katana leaderboard to take out Mark and you,
but you guys are impossible to catch.
I'm at number three and I've been like grinding,
trying to find every angle to talk about Katana,
but you know, it's part of the mission. What I want to say, like, it's just exciting. I've been like grinding, trying to find every angle to talk about Katana, but you know, it's part of the mission. Uh, what I want to say, like, it's just exciting. I've been
like my wallet, my main wallet before it got compromised, I have over 90,000 transactions
on polygon and that's not, you know, playing with bots. It's literally when Avogadro was doing its
farming campaigns, I would do like three, 400, uh, Avogadro channeled its farming campaigns, I would do like three, 400 Avogadro's channeled per day.
I did this for over a year and a half. So I'm like a superpower user on Polygon. So to see
Polygon kind of come to the forefront of attention has been beautiful. I want to ask you guys more
specifically because Sandeep did mention in his post yesterday, you guys are post TGE leaderboard.
Do you have any like inclinations or can you drop any alpha about on-chain activity that might be weighed on the leaderboard in the future?
So I will say that it is something that is being explored.
It's not for certain.
So you'll have to stay tuned for that.
But definitely, you know, I think that, you know, on-chain actions are, you know, combined
with Mindshare. That is the future of InfoFi. I think we're still pretty early to it. But that
does seem like it is the direction that it's taking. However, as far as like post-TGE projects,
I don't think we've really seen any examples of that combination. Obviously,
pre-TGE, there's been Infinex, Newton, where they've had some pretty successful
on-chain combined with Mindshare. But for post-TGE, I think you're going to have to get
pretty creative with that.
So yeah, that's what I have to share about that in the future.
Excellent. Thank you.
And also, Mark, we're rooting for you to take out Zeller.
You can jump on Foresight and make some predictions on that, which I am.
Incredible. Yes, I saw that. that was super great uh the battle of the marks i think uh all of ct
is uh you know locked to their screens watching this unfold as if it's love island um all right
well let's let's go around the room a little bit uh let's get on over to plaques plaques how's it
going and how you feeling feeling about the leaderboard?
Yo, what's up, Smokey?
Hey, guys.
Good morning to everyone.
I'm feeling great, man.
I'm feeling great.
I'm checking my dashboard right now on Kaido.
And I've earned more yaps today than I've earned in the past, I don't know, two weeks.
I don't know two weeks and I don't know if that has anything to do with Polygon getting a leaderboard or with the recent algo changes but we used to pray for times like these man I was on boarded by Reddit like over three years ago now and Polygon's always been my home and I've basically been posting about Polygon since then.
And I just like, I kept seeing everybody like just winning with InfoFi and all the pre-TGE
campaigns.
And then I saw Polkadot joined up and I was like, oh man, everybody's having just so much
fun.
Then we got that Katana leaderboard, which was great, because finally I could, like, earn something
while kind of talking about Polygon.
But this is just great.
Today's a great day.
I'm doing great.
Glad to hear it, Plax.
Yeah, love that, you know, story of you coming over
from the Reddit avatar community, right?
And I think that that was
like, just such a stealthy onboarding of so many individuals onto the blockchain. And then, you
know, being able to speak with some of those folks, you know, and kind of educate them about
some of the different things that were going on on Polygon. That was one of the first things I did here
was talk with the Reddit avatar community.
Timmy was definitely one of those folks.
You know, Plax, there's a lot of people.
Crab Dad.
And yeah, it's like a whole different community.
Twan, Twan, of course.
It's just like a whole different bubble
that is completely separated from
crypto twitter so it's so interesting you know talking with that community and you know what
type of you know crypto uh concepts that they were interested in so yeah that was super great but
dude timmy gave me the whole lore of like the reddit community for like an hour on the one of
the first calls i had with him and it blew my mind.
I was like, well, why don't we do this on Reddit?
You think, you think like the community there would like that?
He's like, no, they would actually really hate that.
And I was like, oh my, I was like, okay.
I was like, cause honestly,
this probably would have worked on CT.
He's like, no, no, no, no.
Reddit community is completely different,
different lore, different people.
They would hate that.
And it just opened my mind to the reality
of how different people are,
depending on what social channel
you're getting information from.
Yeah, I remember early days of Reddit and Avatar.
You had some really, really big crypto Twitter KOLs
try to hop into Avatar.
I know Farak came into the avatar training and then uh before he
was disgraced frank de gods came in and uh like literally posted in the avatar community channels
and they got permabanned like after their first post and it was just it was the funniest thing
i've ever seen because they're like hey i'm farak and like i have 100k followers and here's my bag
and people basically like fuck you we don't
care about your bags like we just want to talk avatars and have like this fun community and it's
it's of it's a different world i think it also like to your point rudo it's like there's a lot
of different types of users and i think uh i mean i know there's a lot of different projects that
are looking to go like uh you who hinted You who hinted at going beyond just Twitter and getting these.
It's really an echo chamber in here.
People care about different things and want different things in this space.
I think that's a really interesting...
The world's bigger than crypto Twitter.
bigger than crypto Twitter. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it was super fascinating learning about
Absolutely.
the Reddit crypto culture and how different it was from what I had experienced from crypto Twitter.
And yeah, they're very, very protective community. And they are very serious about
protective community and uh they are very serious about uh nobody coming in and extracting
from them which is super great i mean that's like just such a great sign of a community
uh that really protects its members for sure uh but timmy uh would love to throw it on over to you
uh and get your thoughts about this leaderboard and you know uh the level of involvement that you're going to have
with this campaign yeah i mean i'm super excited i uh i had a tweet yesterday like uh just seeing
all the activity the notifications didn't stop and it's a it's a really i was amazed at how many
people like i don't know i think polygon made a huge splash um and everyone was talking about
polygon in 2022 and one thing that i was really impressed with just like coming from the community
seeing the building and really believing in it but it seemed like the larger narrative like
polygon kind of fell out and then people are like oh you know what let me check in and then
it was really great to see so many people going like, we're building this and Polygon's doing that and Polygon's doing this.
And like, it's fun to see the excitement.
And I think one thing that, I mean, I would say you probably led the way.
And like,
it just seems like there's a culture of real true community on Polygon that I
don't necessarily see elsewhere where like,
we just had fun engaging with people
that were yapping about us and having a good time.
And I think that's really what I'm looking forward to.
Like when you put on this campaign,
and I think it's in general,
like the beauty of InfoFi,
like you get exposed to information
that you never would have seen before in different accounts.
And now like all of a sudden,
Polygon gets all this attention.
You're going to have people starting to talk about us.
And I would say very could have different perspectives and different things
to work on and build. And you like, I would say the feedback loop,
the time from like what the users are experiencing to the time where
literally Mark and Sandy wereep were in those space,
going like, okay, that feedback loop's going to get so much faster,
and you'll know if you're on track or off track,
which I think that's what I'm most excited about,
is constant feedback, seeing what people think about everything we do.
Nice. Well, it is very exciting. I cannot wait to see some of the work that you are
going to do with the community, with Ruto and myself. Really great to just be able to have
awesome team members that are already so active and engaging with the community. So I'm super stoked, but go ahead, No Future.
No, this is completely off topic, but Katana-related.
Kensei just launched.
Very exciting.
Very exciting.
Yes, I will be hopping on to that after this.
But let's throw it on over to Tan tuan how's it going this is
another uh member that came over from the oh we lost him and he's back let me get him back up on
stage uh but he he came over from the reddit avatar community but uh tuan how is it going
and how are you feeling about being able to yap about polygon with the leaderboard
yeah it's like the the old saying of uh you know doing something you love to do and getting paid
for it's like the the dream if you will uh yeah dude i don't know if if you noticed but like right
before i came back up uh i got ditched out of the space and then had to rejoin i was spamming emojis
a little hard and got booted out uh But yeah, super excited about the Polygon leaderboard. Again, with Katana,
it being kind of an offshoot of Polygon, it was definitely a whole new thing for me to learn,
just the different DeFi aspects and different protocols, where stuff is and how to keep track of it.
And the list goes on.
But with Polygon, it's, you know, something that, you know, being from Reddit directly to Polygon,
like you said, I was almost tricked into joining the blockchain.
And being able to, you know, just kind of educate and speak on what i'm so familiar with is going to be sweet um but yeah looking looking forward to the opportunity already trying to brainstorm
some kind of game some kind of polygon related game and how i can uh you know whip whip that
into shape should be pretty easy because there's a ton of documentation on uh you know poll related
stuff um but yeah no super excited uh you know all the all the homies up here, it's a good space, good day.
Love it. Well, thanks for coming up, Twan. Yeah, excited to see, I've been loving your games that
you've been creating for Katana. You've just been vibe coding those, you know, all the time,
which has been awesome to see and excited to see what you come out with for Polygon, for the
community to engage with. Well, look, we got a couple more people
on the speaker panel that have not spoken.
Let's throw it on over to D Engineer.
How are you doing?
How are you feeling about everything?
Good day, good day.
I am actually excited because I am total tech geek
and I get to put content out
and get paid for it from Kaido
or earn, hopefully, on Kaido
and talk about the tech
that is Polygon that gets slapped on
a lot because it is
boring according to people
no and no
who always say nobody gives a crap about
the tech they just want to know how
they can pump their bags so you get to
listen or read my stuff and see
how you can pump your bags
using Polygon.
By the way, do stakers on the validator get a boost?
I think they should get a boost, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is a very good suggestion,
and we will be taking it into consideration, sir.
Thank you for that.
Well, look, last but not least,
I want to throw it on over to next level.
Would love to hear from you, sir.
I know you've been grinding out here on the timeline,
pushing Polygon content and how you feel about everything.
Yeah. Specifically, since three years,
we've been posting about Poly and using polygon and after using
polygon we became evangelist and i think it was a very good top of the fun to get people use polygon
and you know and then learn learn more about it uh behind the scenes we are learning a lot about how
we are expanding our payments in uh you, the LATM area.
That's what I, this would be a great opportunity
to talk about it and people actually paying attention
to what Polygon actually deserves, I think, personally.
And this is a great opportunity for everyone.
Perfect.
Thanks for that next level. Plax, go ahead.
Yeah, just before you close things out, I just want to let everybody know that
Polygon Leaderboard does have a filter for like hardcore-ness to see like how hardcore you are.
And I am the number one most hardcore Polygon Yapper right now. No one beats me.
I'm the number one most hardcore.
No one goes harder than me.
I just wanted to add that.
Seven days. Go to 30 days and I
beat you, bro.
I don't know, bro.
I'm looking at the chart and the chart just says
that it's me. We're kind of right next to each
other, but it kind of looks like me. I'm just saying,
dude. You gotta do it for a long of looks like me. I'm just saying, dude.
You've got to do it for a long term. That's all I'm saying.
I love it. Well, you know, before we close it out, I do want to, look, I think it's been a great space.
It was really nice having Mark and Sandeep and, you know, all the Polygon team members and community members that came up, you know, and I think it's just great to be able to see everybody that's already
pushing out Polygon content to kick off this leaderboard for a really strong start. But I do
want to throw it on over to Walls. Walls, what did you think of the space? And yeah, any final thoughts?
Well, you guys know my attitude. I'm ecstatic.
I'm really happy that, first of all, Polygon joined.
I'm happy to see all the homies that I've thankfully met a lot,
as I mentioned, met a lot of you guys, IRL, Nail, Timmy, up on stage.
We had a blast that evening, and I hope it's not the last time we saw each other.
So I'm really glad to see you all cooking, Smokey crushing it,
Nail being as consistent as ever. I mean, time time goes by and you guys are just putting in the work putting in the effort every single day locked in
And just expanding the reach expanding the the community of polygon and making making it the greatest it's ever been
so happy to support happy to also be a small part of it and
Yeah, be a small part of the success by by having Polygon on our spaces
I mean, thank you Smokey for making it happen. In my opinion was a great space
I learned a lot connected with a lot of cool people and just
Had a blast had a blast that that's that's what what it matters. I'm really happy to see Polygon join Kaido
Of course, that's a it matters. I'm really happy to see Polygon join Kaido.
Of course, that's a big, big step forward.
Honestly, even more for Kaido than for Polygon.
It signifies that we are here in the right place,
in the right time, and big things are happening.
Yeah, I also want to say that as someone who will be working really closely with creators,
if I see you climbing the Polygon leaderboard and I go to your profile and I see just banger after banger content stuff,
just expect a DM from me for various reasons.
So, yeah, hopefully that's some good incentive.
But yeah, I'm excited to see all the cool content that goes on the timeline.
Alpha alert. Alpha alert,
alpha alert.
Let's go yapping.
Polygon for the win.
Love it.
Well,
look,
thank you everyone for joining.
I think that it was a super great space,
you know,
and we've got some very exciting times ahead.
You know,
very stoked to see all of the new content creators,
all of the supporters that have been supporting for a really long time,
battling it out on the leaderboard.
Again, it's the top 50.
That will $30,000 in USDC monthly.
That will be distributed to the top 50.
So more details around that coming soon
for what the distribution model will look like
based on the placement on the leaderboard.
So we're going to be putting out some stuff about that.
Ruto and I will be putting some stuff out about that.
So stay tuned and look, good luck.
Start creating some content.
Go on up to the very top part of
the space and look at uh the starter uh kit basically that uh sky who is the head of socials
put together great place to start and uh there will be more coming uh from there so look thanks
everybody for joining i really appreciate it i hope you have a good day, night, morning, whatever it is, wherever you are, and we will
see you next time.
All right, everyone. Thank you.
