Hello mate. How are we doing? Hello mate. Hi, I'm here, bro. Hi, it's Rip.
recording though we've been up in the alpha route how fun is that okay yeah we just drop loads of like really secret stuff when thinking no one's listening and that's it this is a bit there will listen as well even if they don't this is the whole thing I'll listen to the first like by
minutes. Yeah. IDP. How are we doing?
I know some of the most important people are here. Woo! Yeah, first in best dressed as they say. Wait a few minutes, I'm sure lots of people are jumping in now.
Deep in poorly. I hope you're feeling better now. Which one we have? Linus here. Linus if you requested. Not sure is that Linus sends a heart if it's you Linus.
Maybe it's not Linus. Maybe it's just the origin's general group. My dokes trying to get in. Axel, I see. Yeah. Gonna barge his way into Bette's.
Randy! After the boys and ladies and gentlemen and nailians and bus necks and everybody, that's everything you do. By the man in the dream, in the dream.
You're not down yet. You're not down yet. Oh yeah. But saying that actually, it doesn't feel like summer's coming here actually. They're saying you're going to have summer August temperatures here. So 40 degrees this week.
40 Celsius or 40 Fahrenheit. I always get confused which one's rich. Oh yeah 40 that's hot. Yeah we yeah we're like like I said we always stay the same we're like in the middle
the night it gets down to 24 and then in the day it gets to like 28 to 32 365 days a year. It's like never out of 28 to 32. It's never like 39. It's just always the same. It's super consistent. That sounds awesome. Yeah, but it's
but 90% humidity says super, you're like, "Okay, cool. I'm just understanding the rest of my life." -Slowly so deep. -Yeah, you're going to meet somebody for the first time, but like a business meeting and you're just covered in sweat. They just accept it. They're like, "This is Panama."
How's everybody doing? Awesome. Very good.
busy week. I got some interesting zoom books tomorrow morning from my LinkedIn posts and stuff like that. My DMs have been fired up so that's good. Hopefully you get some interesting action happening on the more partnership aspect. So.
That's good. And yeah, we had some interesting stuff on the animation side as well. That's all ticking off. Obviously we don't want to be getting people too excited announcing too much straightaway, but we've got lots of stuff going on there, which is cool and pretty
fun. We'll just leave it another minute I think and then we'll get cracking. We've got liners here and origins as well. Have you guys
We're coming, we're going to be chatting to you guys very shortly. Hopefully we'll get some good questions from the floor as well, so stop priming those. Nessa is away this week, which is a shame.
So no pub quiz this week. I think Zozo is going to be running a rumble instead directly afterwards. So I'm sure he'll be dropping in very shortly, joining us. We do have
some big news, don't we? That we're going to share. So we're going to maybe we'll do that after our discussions with the origins guys.
So yeah, Ben's in. Hey Ben, how are you? I'm good thanks. Good. Scribbling away. I am, yes, actually. Good. No rest of me, Wikim. Checking you're doing your homework, you know? Yeah. Never ending homework. Yeah, love it.
Yeah, there's definitely some stuff that we're not releasing today, but Ben's been doing some amazing stuff. Part of the animation character build out and things like that. So it's looking pretty good. So we may start releasing some more bits in the coming weeks as
we progress along that particular road map. So, lots going on behind the scenes. I know Ben, you're, as you say, very, very busy. It's good. Yeah. And happy with the way things are going? Yes. You're drawing? Yeah. I had fun doing a piece just recently.
I'm just currently working on the map for the final bit of the pitch deck. And then, yeah, onto surfboards. This is the next. I can just visualize and just sitting in the workshop. After all the Zooms, I'm like, no matter where you talk for the rest of your life in the world, I just see you sitting in your workshop. It's all I can do now.
I'm sat in my bedroom today but I'm escaped the workshop. Like the little Harry Potter bedroom underneath the stairs. It was any allowed out of like meals get pushed under the door for it. If I'm lucky. Yeah, yeah exactly. Just unlike one of those stainless steel
plates you know just a bit of sleep on there there you go. I love it. Well let's introduce our guests then and let's get started I think. Linus are you there? Hello hello. How are you?
Well, thanks for joining us this evening. This evening is this evening here. Whereabouts in the world are you? Is it the evening morning, the mid of the night? I'm in the web. It is. Smack day. I have a noon. Enjoy my trip. I launch while we hang out here. Nice. Nice. Nice.
So obviously we've been partnered with Origins for a little while and you guys obviously run our amazing secondary marketplace which we've got called as Grammar Dazies. General stores where you can get your MVR and FTs which is amazing but if you guys want to
just give us a bit more background about what you guys do, what you're all about, what you're working on at the moment, what's coming up, kind of a general overview that'll be cool and then we'll take questions and stuff. Yeah, I would love to. I think for having me this is always fun. I remember having a space as when we first launched the store.
and just love the energy, love getting on every call with you all. This is why we're here. So Origin, we've been around a while building, we're kind of OGs in the space having been founded in 2017 and we've been kind of building ever since. So we've kind of gone through
a couple of these bearable cycles, this ain't our first rodeo. But in terms of NFTs, you could also say we're OGs in space, we got into the space early 2021. As NFTs were kind of starting to capture the imagination of folks, we did our first
mint with the artist named Blau. Obviously he's a really big deal now, but we kind of work with him on a first of kind. First of its kind, Music NFT sale, which I believe still holds the record for largest music NFT sale of all time, grossing about $12 million. I think that that really
like kind of opened everybody else's imagination for what is possible for creators and NFTs to connect with their fans and deliver very, very unique experiences and truly unique and verifiable ownership of digital assets. And so we had a very successful
kind of minting launch pad for a while, but we saw what was happening with these collections and really kind of like creating crypto native communities with these NFT projects and we kind of really went quickly to figure out how we can serve that market. And so today we're a fast
growing product that's generating a lot of interest here is customer-white label marketplaces for NFT communities. So we have partnered with the likes of Martians versus Rednecks, whom we love, and a number of other beloved collections that have their own vibrant communities like Pudgy PaintWidth,
on-chain monkey, moon runners, the list goes on dozens and dozens of communities. And we really have this thesis that if you kind of take Web 3 and you think about the history of Web 2, certainly they're amazing, you know,
e-commerce platforms out there that are general aggregators like Amazon or eBay. And those are generally the first to come out of like the everything store. And that's all fine and dandy, but for customers that want a more trusted or unique experience or for the creators or the suppliers and the brand builders,
that don't want their brands to be commoditized that want a little bit more control over that experience that don't want to be undercut by platforms that really just kind of rug pull ultimately and change the rules there should be alternatives and that's what we're building. So when you think about the Amazon's and the eBay's in the world,
Fantastic businesses create a lot of value. Nothing against those businesses they're needed for the space, but there's also an alternative where people can build their own websites or they can use platforms like Shopify and Stripe to build out their own businesses. And that's effectively what we're trying to be doing in Web 3. And so you can kind of think about as Shopify for NFTs.
We kind of offer a full suite of products and tools for creators and communities and brands to really be successful in their Web-Tread businesses. Right now, a lot of focus is on marketplaces because of what's happening in this space. I talked about run pulls.
This is why I and many people got into Web 3 where you're not handing over control to a centralized organization that you don't allow to make the rules. That was the promise of the blockchain, the promise of decentralization of true peer-to-peer commerce. And ultimately, it feels like we've rebuilt
what we've done in the web too, where you've got these massive giants that are really dictating the rules of the NFT space at the expense of some parties, whether it's, you know, one day they'll pick, you know, pick on creators, maybe the next day they'll pick on collectors, whatever it takes to kind of build their businesses, and that's
fantastic for them and their shareholders but not great for the ecosystem. We're trying to predict an alternative. So yeah, that's why we're here and the marketplaces are just the beginning. Got a lot more things that are coming down the roadmap and happy to talk about that but let me pause and take a breath.
No, that was probably, yeah, definitely need to, yeah. Andy, did you have anything you wanted to say there? Yeah, I do not, I was just going to say it's one of these are one of the things I really like about you guys. There is a continuous evolution of your products. I think the way that the market is going
The second market place, which everybody goes to, trusts, etc, is probably only the next incarnation, isn't it, of where the market is going. I'm sure you can't tell us too much around next steps and stuff like that, but I think we seem to be seeing, I'm with you under for that, I know the guys are as well, because we've
discussed the situation with freements and then the situation with market place fees and fraud, he's not being all over all this sort of stuff. And I think things have to change in the marketplace. I mean, open-seek, 100%
are they just dominated and not cared about anyone at all because there was no alternative for so long. But I think the whole thing about the web3 spaces, people within the web3 space don't tend to adhere to normal mediums. We don't really want to go in by
stuff on Amazon. We don't really want to go on to eBay. We want new stuff coming through. I mean, I think Twitter is probably an old school example of it, but there has to be a medium for us to communicate on. I mean, I think there's going to be a load of new stuff coming in the next couple of years, which will be web
three native or Web3 centric, which is going to be, you know, effectively good for all of us, good for you guys. I'll be really keen to, you know, if there's any bits you can tell us about what next steps are for you guys without obviously opening up your networks or opening up your, you know, your sort of inside tracks and plans. But I think
I think it's a very exciting space to be in. When the next ball run comes, we're going to end up with thousands and thousands of people coming into this space. It's all about being primed, isn't it? Right position, right placing. I don't know where your thoughts are. I also think too that everyone, we have our Amazon.
and we have these big central hubs, but I think the beauty of the Web 3, like, you know, having everyone can have their own marketplace, like essentially everyone should, in my theory, every brand, everyone will just have their own decentralized Web 3 marketplace, like Web 2.5 or whatever, everyone's going to have their own little Shopify, and that's just going to be the thing, right? You know, I mean,
and that's the advantage of it. So everyone can go and not have to adhere to like when OpenC dominates and does something, you have to just like, that's just what it is. I think we're going to be through a space where everybody is just going to have their own version of that. And you know, and having protocols where it makes it just easy to plug in, no code, easy on ramp, easy off, you don't mean stuff#
I think that's where the future and that's one of the exciting things about the space too is we have that option right? Yeah, absolutely. You know, that was the promise of Web 3 for me, you know, like when you think about Web 2, why am I still on Facebook? You kind of, you know, it's not that entertaining anymore. It's, you know, I really just
check once a year when people write on my wall for my birthday, but I am kind of locked in there because, you know, all the friends that I've added since, you know, I was in college just are there and I can't really, you know, yeah, I guess I could download a CSV file with all of my data and all the things that they've ever done, but it's not like I take that stuff with
And that was just the light bulb moment of Web 3 where your assets belong to you. You can take them everywhere. Your data belongs to you. You can take it everywhere. And that makes switching costs a whole lot easier when it comes to Web 3. That all I got to do is disconnect my wallet and send it to Web 3.
buy-by to this platform that I don't like and go to another platform. That makes competition a lot harder for a web-tree builders, but ultimately it's better for users and user experience, trust, all this stuff. Ultimately, wins. You're not locking in people into World Garden, so you're absolutely right. Every project is
free to walk their own path and there are lots of tools out there like Origin that we're building for these builders here that we just want to be in the consideration set for how we can help you grow your Web2 business in the way you'd like. So 100% Just the thoughts on that, Angela,
What's your feeling around? We have quite a lot of discussions. We're big advocates of Web 3, but also massive advocates of Web 2.5. I've said to the guys a number of times, we were at the NFT conference in Amsterdam and everybody was talking about proper uses
blockchain and crypto and you know NFTs obviously you know particular but you know it was like the actual uses so people creating products for the right reasons and I think that that will be really interesting I was I was talking to a friend of mine who was saying that there's a gaming company that he knows quite
quite well. He's a big gamer and he said that there's a lot of the projects now and he was really anti-P2E in a context of only being P2E for the sake of getting people in because people think they're going to make a load of money. Now it's not called P2E anymore because it isn't really P2E.
But it's kind of enabling people to use the blockchain for what it really should be, which is as you say, it's a store of value. And he was saying there's a couple of projects he knows of. They've gone out and they've fundraised. They've fundraised decent amounts of money. And actually, they don't even say the word's blockchain. They avoid that kind of terminology.
And I think we get fear on ramping, we get custodial wallets, all that kind of stuff. That's, you know, then we're talking, you know, people not having to log in with Metamask, etc. That feels where it's going. I mean, do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah, absolutely. You know, my, I have somebody wants that.
If you allow me to kind of like go about it. I definitely think that while I am a Web 3 Maxi, I'm not a Web 3 Maxi for every business, right? Every business and every brand has to think about what are they trying to accomplish and ultimately I think about user value, user experience.
You have to tailor it appropriately. Not everything needs to or should be on chain and public for everybody to see. At the same time, I'm not totally on the side of ultimately I think that what you're touching on is you want to simplify the users
make it so easy, the lightfall, etc. that people can just get to the fun part, right? But they don't have to learn what exactly is a blockchain and what does it do and how do I trust it. But I'm not totally on the side of like, yes, what that means is a custodial wallet exchange.
experience as in you don't actually fully own your assets, not fully on the side of like you have to trust a centralized authority to be thinking about holding on to your NFTs because ultimately like what is this then like it doesn't even need to be an NFT. This is just a virtual product that you know is owning
by a corporation, right? Then you get, you know, for example, I bought a couple of Salona NFTs on the FTX platform and it was a decent experience, I guess, but ultimately when FTX collapsed, something that people didn't think was going to happen, like, bye bye to those NFTs, right? And bye bye, Billick. And you
tough luck to those organizations that trusted them. Ultimately, though, I think that the technology is getting better, right? Like you've got account abstraction that's coming, this important upgrade on the Ethereum network that will allow for a web to like experience without giving up on some of the user benefits of fully controlled wallets and things like that.
And I also think that we're at the point in blockchain where people are kind of like it's like if you're trying to get online do I have to understand what HTTP is do I have to understand what Ethernet is and how that technology works no But will I know that I'm online and connected to Wi-Fi?
Yes, right? And so I think it like there would be a world where you don't need to know the intricacies of blockchain and layer 2's and how they work But you would know oh, I'm on chain now versus I'm off chain simply like it would just be like every single person including your grandma knows like hey, can I get the Wi-Fi password at this point like that level it's
technical knowledge would be more prevalent. Here's where I think when blockchain and so just hear me out for an example. Like you said, Grammy, she knows she's on Y5, she doesn't really understand what it is, she knows she's on Y5. But I think when we're going to get to the point where say everyone has a decent, well I think
I didn't, if you're right, me, Randy, I have a decentralized identity, I've uploaded my passport, I've uploaded my driver's license, all that's kind of locked in a little vault. If I go to some place and they verify, okay, cool, like I go to a doctor's office, I go register for a gym, there's gonna be a transaction verifying through a verifier.
to be like, "Okay, cool. So I don't need to keep giving my ID. I don't need to keep giving my passport. I don't need to keep." But imagine like every big chain, like Ikea's and Wal-Mart's and everything like this, imagine you just flipped into say, "Wherever you're DID and they give you a receipt for every time you bought something." Now imagine your house burned down. You just go to#
on my receipts. I bought this, I bought this, I bought this, I bought this, and this is where I think some of the big custodial wallets would be important like receipts. I never keep receipts. I'm terrible about it, but if I ever have a skewed fire, I don't know what all my value of everything is, but when we get to the point where I think Web 3 is like we can vary
Okay, yeah, I bought this here here and here's the value and you just hand your hand that portion of your wallet over to your insurance company and they say okay cool Yeah, you proved that we appreciate that you know what I mean like that kind of stuff I think is where the future maybe in the next 10 10 years might be but that would be exciting like that's one of the the real use case of
of the blockchain and verifying and proof would be like pretty freaking cool. I don't know, that's just my verbal diarrhea, sorry. Yeah, I love it. That's actually a use case I hadn't heard before and so I'm pretty excited about that. And I think that like we're going to get there. I believe we're going to get there, but you start with something that might
like a toy to start out with, right? Like I know what the public perception of NFTs is right now. In fact, at dinner parties, I kind of just like downplay what I work on, not to say that I'm not proud. It's just, I don't want to get into it right now, right? I kind of like, oh yeah, right. It's extra enough, right? But ultimately, like, that's going to change#
this crypto, and it's going to be a great user experience. You're going to see the value and ultimately we're going to think about the value that we provide to users, not necessarily the technology and the maxis about the
technology, like we should be flexible on the details there, but like really, really stubborn about this vision of like open access user control data, user control assets, and those kinds of things where you can get those experiences. And what you're saying right now, actually, like it is happening, but on a smaller scale, right? Like not on the IKEA scale, but like, oh,
you can actually verifiably prove that I minted or didn't mint Martian's versus Roughnext and what do I hold and other projects can build on top of that. You can have these collaborations where you don't need to sign a deal with Martian's versus Roughnext to say give me all your user data to
you say, I want the private information of LIS, I want a Social Security number, I want his email address, and I want the ability to go advertise to him. No, like it's all there and they can basically say, welcome, you are on the allow list, you come into our community, and that's just my choice. And I think that that's, we're getting there.
the starting small with these digital assets that resonate with the community that might be smaller numbers right now, but very, very deep in passion. And that's how we start to go iterate and get the experience much, much better, improve the rough edges, and then expand out to bigger and bigger concentric circles.
I think it's just like eating as long as somebody has a cell phone basically all this is you know before when very few people had cell phones something like this would be completely unfathomable but like I look a lot in America
And every kid has two cell phones. You know what I mean? They got like a two cell phone and then they just got another one like everybody has them and like even in places that are considered third world, the phones are just third world prices. So they're affordable and that is $5 a month for unlimited data and stuff. So we are at the point where if we build these programs,
and we have this technology in place and it's just a matter of a QR code, a login, a pin, a thumbprint or whatever, right? We can start doing that. So we're at this really cool pivotal point where there is a technology around the world that would support this kind of movement. So yeah, I don't know. It's a pretty crazy thing.
>> It's moving ultra fast. You step out for two weeks and everything's changed. What happened in the last two weeks? Did I skip timelines or going on? It's pretty wild. It's exciting in a good way. >> 100%. That's why I love this space and probably shave it off the
a couple of years in my life, but for sure, like every week something happens in the industry where I'm just like, do I have to re, like now I have to kind of rethink or reframe a really test my PC's about this space. And it just ultimately says to me that
like, yeah, while prices might be down, activity on chain might be down, I've never been more excited about developer and builder activity right now. There's so much creativity in the space right now that, you know, I definitely think that things will bounce back and
Man, the next bull run is just going to be like, it's just going to completely blow your mind because I think that the stuff that's being built right now is just going to really, really take off when the timing is right when people's minds are open to it. They're going to come in and they're just going to see amazing user experiences, amazing value.
Well, if anyone's ever feeling down about the space, just go to any crypto convention and walk around and no one's talking about the price of Bitcoin and Ethereum, no one's talking about hash rates. It's just there's so many exciting booths with so much tech popping up. You're like, okay, this is like, you go to any
Crypto convention you walk out of there and you're just like fired up like nobody gives a shit what big one price is like that's the last thing because everyone's building together so So that's it was a good old crypto. It's like I don't know man. You don't even understand it if you're like down on crypto you just don't even get
crypto or the community because you haven't really been immersed into it. So like you've been having conversations like this, right? You get excited about this. You know, people building tech behind the scenes like this that's going to help revolutionize. So I'm enjoying this call. I appreciate this.
Very cool. I was going to pick up a little around you. I think you're spot on there. I think one of the things I was going to say, and I know we're getting a little bit off, not off topic really, because there is no topic. We want to have an open conversation around where the market's going, et cetera. But I think one of the things I see is when you've got a bull rot market,
everybody throws money into any old product. I remember some of the NFT exchanges and stuff like that that were coming up and they were just crazy. There was nothing to them. People were just looking at stuff and watching influencers and throwing money in things. I think a bear market like we have at the moment, the good thing is, you know, and everyone says the same thing. I'm not
not saying anything particular unusual, but the people that build in the bear, normally they have a product that people want or they are people who are really passionate about it and they'll evolve the product into something that people will want. I think that what you do during a bear market is you cut out a lot of the people who are, look I'm going to pump something really quickly,
and make some money and run away because they can't do it. So you've got to actually do something that's useful. I think we've seen a few projects going by the way side and it's just interesting to see how people evolve. I know obviously we spoke about the pivoting that you guys have done. It's not been a massive pivot, obviously it's been a move towards a product that is, you know,
ahead of the game which is great. I think for us as well we've moved from being affected with a pure PFP project to having animation. We were doing the record label, obviously the music when we first started which is crypto dog singing. I don't think she's here at the moment. No she isn't but it's kind of, I think
I think that we're going to come out of this market really well and the businesses that are ready to take it on in the bull market, it's going to be great fun. But that was just my little doing it and following up on Randy getting excited. So then do you want to get excited and if you're on the speak thing as well, do you want to talk about our wonderful life
stuff or you busy drawing I am drawing I'm drawing drawing and listening. Ben what's up Ben? Yes they're poor they're buying one I'm telling you like I want to be the first person to buy a surfboard just because I'm like oh and I'll legitimately use it like yeah hurry up let's go. Oh by the way I know you asked before
I'm not sure if I answered the question or not, but obviously the sizes of surfboard, they said they will open, we'll get all surfboard sizes. So we'll have literally any size you want, we'll have an NBR with a personalized section to it. So for those less professional ones like me, I'll be able to get a massive one.
Yeah, made it made of 5. For standing on a dock, right? It's like if you stand on a dock and the dock is 10 feet long and 4 feet wide, they're probably going to stand on it a bit easier than 5 feet by 18 inches. So I need a big log board too, man. Absolutely.
Anyways, isn't it how you do it you carry this short one so you look really cool and then you had to surf on the big one because I am I was in Australia years and years ago and this guy asked me to look after it like to take his surfboard kind of where we were at Byron or somewhere he asked me to take it and people were like giving me signs in the airports of like dude like that because it was a
really short like professional surfboard and I just didn't get it at the time but maybe that's it maybe we'll have to get to like one time to use and one time to look cool when you start surfing you realize that the wave's got to be big enough to even like you can't even get up on the thing it's just embarrassing you're like you look real cool and then it just it just shamed
you instantly. So yeah, a lot of word, but like I said, I'll be the first one to buy it. I'll gladly support the project and actually get it. So, anyway. >> Sounds good. Where we've gone off of space a little bit. Ben, did you have a question for Linus, didn't you, I think?
Yeah, it's going more towards the trends of the zero percent fees, a royalty fee for creators. And whilst I've never understood the free mint thing and what the benefit is for people, but do you think that's going to bring the end of the free mint?
Yeah, that's a great question. I think there's a couple of options here. So certainly I think, uh, free mint and then make money on the royalties is no longer kind of a guarantee. There are a couple things that creators can do. Certainly at this point, it does seem like open seeing
and blurr have a little bit of a ceasefire. There are ways to, especially if you're a new contract, if you're a legacy contract, we can talk about that, but unfortunately, legacy contracts that aren't upgradable, open sea and blurr won't necessarily enforce your royalties unless you choose to block one or the other.
But with new contracts, you can actually bacon certain things to abide by OpenC's operator filter registry. And then blur an OpenC. There's ways to basically get them both to honor your royalties. Now again, these aren't coded in chain. This is basically
a policy that they have today. And it might go away, right? You might get rubbed. So there are other options here where you can work with an origin protocol to build your own Creator Marketplace. There are some creators like RooTroop has entrusted us to be their only exclusive marketplace, meaning they are
blocking everybody else. We've seen incredible support from their community. They did a successful bridge from Ethereum over to Polygon and we're seeing lots of love actually. Unexpected side effect of this was not only supporting the creator royalties but we've gotten
feedback from the Ruchup creators that their community, it gives them something to kind of rally around something special with like, oh, we've got our own exclusive marketplace. That's the only place to shop and trade a Ruchup. So that's an option as well. We're always in the business like we will never rug. We support the creator of Ruchies.
Other ways to think about this for a creator is it's an attention game at the end of the day for some of these projects where you might think about it as get a free amount out there, make some noise, get people to talk about you, get up there into the top 10 trending
collections and ultimately then build your brand from there. Right. And so I'm not recommending this to everybody, but it is it is kind of a typical, you know, it's reminiscent of maybe the web to start up approach back in the good old days when venture capital money was free flowing. And you just grow, grow, grow, don't worry
about money, you burn money if you want and just build your audience and then from their figure out model acquisition later, I think that there is arguments for a playbook similar to that for NFT projects, so it was provided that they can figure out funding and operations, you know, in the interim, but get a freeman out there, you won't need
making a ton of money on the critical royalties, but get the attention, grow your brand. And then from there, once you've got a captive audience and a brand and a strong community, you can figure out what you want to do there. It could be follow-on minstead or paid. It could be just building your IP, whether it's you want to build a game.
you wanted to build. Merchandise, kind of licensing deals, all those kinds of things are open to you. And so I think that ultimately my takeaway here is creators, they have fewer options that they have than they've had before, but I do think that it puts a little bit more creativity and onus on the creative
to really think through what is a strategy and who do they want to partner with and who do they want to trust. And, you know, origin origins here to serve. And we can, we definitely got you covered there on the technology front to help you run your web through business. But at the same time, you know, we consider ourselves kind of strategic.
partners to help people think through. Yeah, how do you, even things that we don't have a hand in, who are the right folks to partner with? How should you be thinking about designing, MINS and community community strategy, et cetera? We've just partnered with a lot of amazing communities and learned a ton, so we are just humbled to be able to share some of that knowledge.
I was going to ask you as well on that note as well. Did you, I don't know, your thoughts on, because I think Goblin Town and I only seen this as a headline. Haven't they, because they've changed their contract and in direct, you know, kind of almost screw you to blur and
to opency, basically moved their entire contract over to a new one which has protected royalties in it. Is that right? Did I read that correctly or not? Yeah, absolutely. That's absolutely right. I think that there are a couple of contracts that have done this. So Garbentown was probably one of the most
obvious of I think what they did I may be getting the story wrong is they completely changed your metadata right so you had a goblet they changed your metadata you know very very in character with Goblet Town love love the vibe of what they they've done here which is very it was very trolley of life
like, you know, F this, F that, Crea Roaties, whatever. It was just this weird like, okay, every single NFT is now gone and white. And it was basically a notice to every customer of like, this contract is no longer valid. You're going to get a new NFT. And they basically had to do that.
So, in order to be able to take advantage of the new contract upgrades that would be able to honor, like basically be in line with OpenC's currently stated standard of if you do this, then we and Blair will honor your royalties. So that is a solution.
for energy creators. That's not going to necessarily work for all communities, right? You have to basically take a pulse to your community of like would they react? Well, it's not like that. It wasn't fun destiny, like maybe more subtle with what Yuga Labs did. So what Yuga Labs did was everybody
that had an other side land deed, right? And they've been holding this for, you know, over a year now. Some of these deeds have quotas in them. And basically what they did was they created this event where, you know, at the user can basically burn this NFT, get a new NFT, basically get new multiple entities.
to use where there would be the land, but they would be able to separate out their quota. And so this was something that was that they did, and they basically created a narrative around this. They created the user value around this. And one of the sneaky things that they were able to do was in the process of doing this, they did upgrade the contract.
So that the world's east would be enforced. So I have a suspicion that that was the primary driver for why they did this, but they were able to very, very cleverly create a narrative that was very much in line with their roadmap and their community was just like all for it. So that's another thing that I
Creators would have to be very creative about of like hey, how can I how can I make this not so obvious like you have to think about the user value of why they would want to upgrade to a new contract And just just make sure that that is smooth and hopefully you have a way of tying into your road map or your narrative
That's brilliant. Yeah, thanks. I was going to watch that mate. Good answer. Awesome. We've got a question from the floor about the, I've just unmuted you. Would you like to come up and?
ask your question or comment below. Hey, it's HM here. Do you think everyone has a room doing? You're all good. Good, thanks mate. How are you? Thanks. Yeah. Of course, nice to have the origins gathered here. I think I've put to any of you before on a call with Ketis.
Yeah, I just wanted to just chime in a little bit about what you said about it being the kind of Shopify for NFT marketplaces, which, you know, that kind of makes sense in terms of where you're trying to go for. Just kind of adding on to that. I think I've maybe to mention that before, but if you want to be a Shopify,
For NFT kind of storefronts then it might be worth integrating into the APIs for things like Messer for example, so like if I so if so is like running a Facebook ad Yeah, they can already they can integrate their Shopify store with
with the Facebook advertising targeting tools. So it just makes it a lot easier to convert the customers like if the Facebook, if the shop of first store is already integrated with all the Facebook advertising tools. So if someone you know checks out or adds to part or
or whatever, matter/facebook tracks all those things that is easier than target similar minded people because the Facebook pixels and tracking pixels already integrate it into Shopify store. So I don't know, are you guys looking into that? Are you interested in doing that? Because that would really help.
Yeah, absolutely. It's a fantastic suggestion. It's not something that candidly we've gone too far down the rabbit hole on, but I absolutely get your point. Could be worth about to pick a brain a little bit more about what you're imagining here.
One of the challenges that we have seen in the past is the big platforms like Facebook and Google have kind of gone back and forth about whether or not crypto or what three companies can advertise. And right now the the winds are swinging towards a note simply because of the regulatory environment and just like
the public perception. However, your broader point about helping these web-free founders and entrepreneurial teams succeed reaching new audiences like engaged or existing audiences is absolutely something that's core to us. Right now, you know, we're a small team. We're absolutely just getting started here, but we
We focused on transactions like preserving the lifeline of revenue models. What's coming next is thinking about engagement mechanisms and building up a platform for these brands to kind of reward certain behaviors like giveaways, merchandise,
exclusive experiences. Those things are already happening on a number of different platforms and we want to basically give you the tools to do that on your own marketplace. But absolutely, great feedback. Yeah, just connect with me, just to follow me on here as
as well. It's just about obviously because you've integrated the debit cards into it already. So it's all, the entities are really going to pop off when you bring audiences that are outside NFTs into this place. Anything that shows that is usually great. But anyway, thanks.
Thanks for a good question. Does anyone else have a question? They would like to ask just stick your hand up and I can unmute you and get you up on the stage. If not, we'll carry on.
do you have anything you want it to add at this point? No, I think that's great. I think it's been a really good discussion. Thanks, thanks, Linus. It's lovely to have you on board and have an interesting conversation anyway. I appreciate it. It's a good talk. I like to talk. This is a girl.
Thank you. Oh, Simla. Can I, I mean, I'm gonna ask a question like what kind of alpha can we expect here like I you know, I need something to return. What's what's happening on the Martians versus roughness? I like it. I'm a roadmap here that we're excited about. I love it.
Do you want to take that Andy or do you want me to? No, you go you go for it. So at the moment, so a quick update on where we are with MVR. So we are in the midst of producing our 3D assets, the FBX files for our Gen1 collection.
So the entire Martian collection has been completed and we are now working on the rough deck side. So these FBXs will be 6667 of them all available to the community that hold the original two
So the metadata will be updated along with access to those FBX files. These are totally interoperable. So the idea is they're built in Unreal Engine but they will also work across other gaming platforms including Unity, the working blender,
My and the whole list of other things we're trying to make that list as long as possible so it kind of and Give them a good legacy so as technology and things advances. They'll be you know still be able to be supported and and be able to use in the future so that
We're kind of where we're going at the moment with our kind of focus on gaming and gaming assets in that direction because we think that you know we're the space is one killer game away from kind of exploding I think gaming in Web 3 is going to be huge
Obviously there's a bit of convincing some of the gaming community to make that leap but I think once that one big game comes into the space it's kind of inevitable. So us getting ahead of the game and having these assets and when the time comes maybe they can be used in Fortnite or things like that.
like that as well, we've had discussions in these spaces about those kind of things. So that's definitely an exciting thing. And then the other big thing that we're working on at the moment is the animation series. We've got a great team on board, including Richard Purcell, who's doing our writing, who's
the who's been a writer for Ren and Stimpy. We've got a few other guys who've onboarded which we haven't announced yet which we'll be doing in the coming weeks and Ben and Matt and Rich have been building out the kind of story we've got the season one. Season one has been out
line and we're working on the pilot script now so that's pretty exciting and we're talking to various people about onboarding talent to do the voiceovers for those animated characters so that's really exciting being again
doing an amazing job drawing so we have sneak peek some of those that's we'll drop some of those in the discord again just to refresh people's memories of those some of those characters so yeah it's gonna be a big couple of months coming up so there's plenty to get excited about with with MVR for sure
I don't know if that gives, I'm not sure if it's too much alpha for kind of our own community, but hopefully they know most of the stuff that we're doing. But yeah, it's I was going to say, are we in now? Are we in an announce what we're doing for our next? Betty's bar and stuff. Do you want to
Yep, yep, yep. Okay. Okay. Well, I'll maybe talk about that. So we looked at the betties bar that we've been doing and and obviously, you know, we love having these, you know, kind of open conversations and so it's like, but what we now want to do is try and take the betties bar to the next stage. So we've actually
I don't know if you, well, some of you guys will definitely know, but our Clubhouse, which we've been building for networks, but also for other kind of platforms as well for a place for us all to hang out in, is it final stages of being put together, at which point we're going to drop
into a mini metaverse which the intention being is our next Betty's bar will actually be in a metaverse which means that we'll all be able to log in, we'll let everyone know before they get there and you'll be able to log in, they'll be, it's
to do the proper announcement yet. But it's one of the ones where you can actually stand in to the group, you can have mini conversations, you can all walk up to the screen, we always play videos, there's presentations that we can do and generally talk, you know, we will
have probably only a couple of our characters in their first off but each character you will be able to select will I be a Martian or a Roughneck obviously and you'll be able to have your your image standing above your head which again will have your name on it whatever you want your name to be and an image so it's going to be pretty
exciting actually. It does mean that we probably will not have another betty in two weeks but we will probably delay for four weeks just so we've got everything ready and then hopefully that point we've got lots of other cool stuff to show you all at the same time whether it's the animation or whether it
the three days and what they can do in lots of videos. So yeah, I'm super excited about the baddies in that way too because like with this what Andy was talking about this would be a good way. So it was four weeks we'd come together but we can show presentations because of slideshow we can so sneak peeks everyone kind of like walk around
computer gaming computer it's it's quite cool and then in that way too maybe we'll be able to get some cool presentations and you'll be able to see things a lot more I don't know I'm I'm pumped about it I'm pretty excited about it and it's a good good team to work with you so yeah it's gonna be big we're very helpful and I
Yeah, absolutely. They just they're overall vision and mission is pretty cool They're just kind of like you know how we have like link tree everyone's like hey, what's your link tree and then this company is like we just want to be like that so we can showcase everything your project has so whether you have your user
You can just go and hang out in that virtual experience for whatever brand you have. So I think it could be like the futuristic version of what our link should be. It'd be like what's your blah blah blah, right? So I don't know. Yeah, you guys are so cool.
- It's gonna be fun. - Over, that's what I always do. - That's what you stand the rigs when they talk on the mic. - Whenever you're like, "Talk," you'd be like, "Okay, over, ch-." But you gotta do the ch- and then, 'cause that makes it real. - Sounds great. - Alright. - Good. (laughs) - Love it.
Awesome. That, I think, is about it from the update standpoint. And anyone else have any questions?
comments, questions, queries, concerns, speak now. Otherwise we're looking forward to what line is what's the one, oh we're hanging on, so we have a question now, Karl's coming up. I'm just going to ask one quick question. What's the
So what's the next exciting thing that Origins is working on in terms of the will see impacted on our Martian secondary marketplace? I know we were looking at bulk buying with the credit
Is that something that you guys are working on at the moment? It's kind of single purchase. Yeah, yeah. One of our most requested features. Happy to say that we've got an internal version of working and we're just testing up the kinks, but yeah, by by multiple shopping cars.
sweep the floor, it's all happening. You know, come into a store.marsingsversus.com near you. You know, that's something that we've needed for a while. You know, thanks for thanks the community for your patience, but it's happening.
amazing. Yeah, I think that will be a big step and I think we'll certainly encourage, facilitate that sweeping the floor or people just want to come in, they want to buy two or three and they don't quite know what they're doing, their first purchase, their first buy, I think that will be a huge step in the right direction.
looking forward to that coming. Karl, you're up. Yeah, I just remember that it's crypto Zozo's birthday. So I'm going to sing Happy Birthday. I don't know if we can get some other people up to sing Happy Birthday with me. It's
It's tomorrow but Carl's got my back here He knows he knows he knows they're not gonna be live until for a couple weeks So I think he's got me covered here. What do you got for me Carl? Yeah
I've learned the words, I don't know, I'm ready to go now unless maybe Tim wants to see some other people coming to visit me. I'll try and, yeah, some people are requesting to speak. So we'll get as many as we can up. I think there's a limit on the stage. My voice is horrendous, so hopefully it won't be mine. You'll hear.
I'm sure we'd love to sing. All together. Right? Oh, you do want to start. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of those homes. I've heard the tears of#
Big four oh nothing special just the big four It's significantly worse to see or trust me It's like a little from here. No
As a special treat I'm going to also announce we're going to have two games of rumble after Betty's bar here so I'm just throwing that in really quick so after Betty's bar it's almost wrapped up then join us in the discord everybody and we'll have a couple games of rumble here light it up a bit just let you guys know and thank you Carl and thank you everybody
buddy that was singing and everyone clapping throwing emojis and just everybody that's here. Thank you guys. We're gonna rock it here at MBR you guys. Oh and thanks Linus for coming up and origin. You guys are awesome. - Amazing, thank you. - Cheers. - Slim, you came up. Did you have a question or did you just want to sing?
I was just thinking. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Um, quit Wisdom the team if there's anything else anyone wants to add, run the anything else from you. No, like I said, I got I'm working on some charity stuff here in Panama that'll be, you know, in the next coming months hopefully.
to be able to have a big big announcement where we can do something more formal but I'm working on it kind of every day here just to get something substantial to deliver it right so. So I've brought you guys though don't know the back story I created a charity here in Panama about a year and a half ago and I would like to be able to try to incorporate what MVR has with the
I built a computer lab for some intercity kids and kind of like a rougher end of town. I think with all our in-game assets it would be good to be able to get these kids to learn how to play. They're learning Photoshop and stuff, but it would be good to just learn how to play in Blender and Unity and stuff like this. This is kind of what I'm working on.
And it would be really cool to be able to get some good footage of these kids using some of our assets and learning how to use these tools. Because I think if you give people the opportunity to learn some skills, especially like in the area that they have, you know, the kids don't have ethernet and gaming computers and, you know, and a safe place to go do this.
stuff. So if they can go and learn some of these skills, you never know there might be some of these kids that turn out to be like, you know, they might get a career out of this at some point. Like they're younger kids now, but you never know, right? Plant that seed, give them tools, give them an opportunity, give them a couple years, and you never know what can happen. So that's my in real life thing going#
Yeah. Oh, that's bad ass, Randall. Cool. Nice. Nice. I'm going to bounce out. It's a great chat. Everybody. And to win me again. Thanks very much, guys. Sweet, sweet, sweet. Thanks. I think that
Thanks for joining us. Thanks a lot for the origin guys. You are legends. I'm looking forward to having further conversations here and to real, not real stuff, but you know, hearing where you're going next. I think you guys have been absolutely legends. Thanks very much for coming on. We look forward to
more partnerships with you going forward. Oh thanks guys. Happy birthday Zozo for tomorrow. I think we'll get a special prize for you. So don't worry. Big something up for you. All right. Take care man. See you. Rumble. Nice. Ciao. Cool. Thanks guys. Rumble on. Bye bye bye.