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Big Picture Thinking: Macro Insights, Crypto, Art and Goal Setting
Recorded: March 31, 2025 Duration: 1:09:51Space Recording
Short Summary
The discussion covers various aspects of the crypto market, including market trends, innovations, and technical advancements. There is a focus on the impact of AI, the importance of yield farming, and the potential for consolidation in the crypto space. The conversation also highlights the role of institutional and corporate adoption of cryptocurrencies, as well as the challenges and opportunities in fundraising and technical development within the blockchain ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. yo yo yo anyone wants to come up feel free right now I don't have any speakers I'm waiting on
someone I don't know if they're coming or what but if not you know I can blab for a while so
hope all is well happy Monday looks like uh the markets aren't happy with us
sorry i was getting some static sound there yeah man just stop up if you want um
looks like the market i haven't looked at it besides this morning. It wasn't looking too good for us.
Anytime there's tariff talks and uncertainty, big money, they don't, they're always risk off.
So that's kind of why the markets are doing what they're doing.
But it looks like we have a little bit of a rebound.
I see some stuff taking a little bit of a green candle here which is nice but yeah most of the
stuff kind of got blasted over the weekend too because i do um monday through friday paper
and i track the prices of like the blue chips and the trending tokens and all that and um even the
ones that were like oh it's up like a half a percent or a percent it was still lower than what it was on friday so and pretty much decently lower so there's that so it's not
good or we got costo what's up brother lights you up it's always nice to be able to talk with
feel free brother
let's see here
what's up bro
what's up
good man just kind of
getting some stuff done and I was
figured might as well start making this a regular
thing so I'm glad you came by
so I have someone to talk to you right now but
yeah the morning
sorry what's up no thanks for having me yeah man anytime i'm gonna
start doing this every monday so it's like a regular thing people will know about it eventually
and then you know last space last monday was pretty good i did um kind of show a little bit
beforehand for like two three hours uh this one kind of just low-key and um yeah man i don't know
the markets are kind of iffy i don't know if you heard the beginning part of it but uh kind of the
tariffs are sort of back on and i remember when trump took office the first time back in i think
it was 2018 he was doing tariffs too and for about six months the markets were kind of bad and then they
started to pick up really good and then sadly the um covet happened with the covet crash but
kind of thinking the same thing he's been in since january 20th and it's basically two months later
so hopefully we're gonna get at least some sideways moving for a
while and then then upwards i don't see too much more downside it's kind of just been give me
sideways till right before summer yeah i think so as well because usually it's like may then go away
but i think it's going to be the opposite this time because this cycle is completely different
and people sit there and they throw charts up and say oh
This is what it looked like back then and four years ago and eight years ago
And yeah history does tend to repeat itself, but history is always meant to be broken as well, right?
So it's like yeah, I do think that will have a similar
summer with like
like how we did with like
DeFi in like 20 was the 2016 when we had that d5 summer
i wasn't i wasn't here back then man i'm not that me neither i was just a teenager that's when i
like first heard about like just crypto going like crazy but i think yeah like that summer 2017
summer that's when a lot of the products were just are just booming and i think it's going to be the same thing but for ai like we have nvidia gpu releases coming out in may sometime in like
their second quarter um so i'm really looking for that just seeing how the ai space can affect that
yeah i'm doing uh i've been messing around a little bit these mcps that's pretty sick you
just like build environments and then like kind of servers and then these uh ai agents can tap into it
and just do everything on their own like a truly decentralized ai agent but building the
infrastructure out and the models, it's pretty sick.
I'm not real experienced with it right now, but I definitely wanted to do a lot more over the weekend.
I just got really swamped, so I didn't get a chance to just dig in for six hours straight without any interruptions.
It's a little bit more difficult during the week, but I do want to spend a bit of time learning on it.
That's clearly going to be
how these ai agents operate and um yeah man like when i first got into the space that was like my
besides privacy it was privacy and ai that's really all i truly cared about and then like
i kind of caught up into like the whole defy hype because we did have it for a bit there but for a
while everything else outside of that
those niches were kind of just stagnant and it's still to be honest with you most of it still
really is it's just like a little bit of a better version sometimes or a little you know something
quirky different not not anything like substantially different like the innovation on defy has been
somewhat lackluster so i haven't really cared
too much for it now i do check and see oh there's there's there's opportunities with this farm or
that farm or you know whatever i still look at that but as for like oh man i'm so excited to use
this it's really not i don't really care about any of that stuff anymore it's the thing is about
like farming i feel like we need like a lot of capital, which not a lot of people have.
So they kind of shy away from the farming techniques.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Unless you have 100K ready to deploy and you just want to earn yield and farm, I think that's a really good bet.
But not a lot of us have that.
You know what else is a good bet, too?
People don't
really see this or think about this is like top-end art there's a lot of really good artists
that i'm not talking about and like just pfps i'm talking about real art like some people
you know they'll they'll have their pieces in different museums i mean there's uh afka he's
had stuff in museums all over the world and he's um kind of pivoted into you know he just does all
where there's oil paints or whatever but he just does it all and you know some of these are worth
you know a good penny and they go up over time and one thing that i learned like that previous
job doing it doing basically taxes and accounting and somewhat financial planning and whatnot is
people generally collect art and
collect things and i don't see that being any different with digital art i think that's going
to be you know people are probably thinking oh it's just an nft yeah it's an nft but like they
actually still create it and now with like ipads and all that it actually looks pretty sick and
it's not ai generated, they might use AI to
take their preexistent painting that they made back in the 80s or 90s or whatever, and like,
take that and then do animations on top of that, which is pretty sick. And then, yeah, man, there's
a lot of people that are doing some cool things. And if you if you would have been buying art,
you know, over the last four or five years if you've been
in that space that long and buying some right ones i mean some of these things man they they
go like 100x from the initial buy and a lot of these really good artists they do kind of raffle
systems like say may do like 150 piece or some 101 or whatever-one or whatever the one-on-ones usually you just buy it like
you just say hey i really like that piece and just buy it um and that's what gives it its value
well yeah like it's like that and then it's like oh that that you know like there's these things
called x uh the artist is called x copy he's one of the probably the most famous kind of
animation slash digital artist right now.
And his shit goes for so much money, bro.
Like it's crazy.
And, um, you can look back five years ago, people were,
some of them were buying for 0.15 ETH or one ETH.
Now they're worth, you know, fuck man, 200 K, 300 K.
And, um, yeah, cause it's like top end.
It's real trippy looking and you could just get lost
in it it's pretty cool and then uh yeah so like that's kind of i mean you have to have capital
do that because you're not going to get real lucky and get in real cheap you're going to need to
definitely you know deploy some but also like if you just like collecting like i like to collect so
you know like my goal with like art collections is if i do sell is just
accumulate more or other other uh renditions yeah so i can have like a portfolio right it's like
that's kind of how i did it even with nfts or pfps i'm kind of the same way i wish i would
have when i minted more i would just like mint a bunch of them and then essentially just try to
get my money back or make a make a buck and then have like five of those pieces and now it's like just can hold it however however i
want however long i want like i look i've been lurking around the the art space for the last
over the weekend actually that's kind of what i was doing all weekend and i was just looking at
people's collections like the people that do you know of any um nft art galleries yeah there's
one there's one on ordinals uh that it's they inscribe they inscribe them on the bitcoin ledger
so it's you know and then you can go in actually i gotta find it there's like literally art galleries
yeah us too we have we have that in montreal like like OX Society it's called and it's an entire
like NFT gallery.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, I've gone to it once. They're like hosting these little like networking events here in
the city and I was just like, you know what, let me go and you just see all this cool art
and also like the music side of things.'re like just creating nfts of their
music yeah that's cool like you can transform just a piece of art into like a scene right like
yeah multiple you know multiple artistic scenes and with music in the background and it doesn't
have to just be like a one one second two seconds it can go you know a minute long and it's just
like this trippy and it's not just oh
like oh they're just using animations it's actually hand-drawn art you know paintings whatever they did
it's that's pretty sick man and i i just know how people are if the space does take off and we do
think it goes to where it's going to go in the future art collectible art is going to be a thing
like it just always is and now you can own it and there's also things like um people i forget what our name is so what would boom better nfts or memes
oh nfts for sure right yeah for sure yeah because it's it's you know if you're a really good artist
like like i was telling hofka he's been an artist for, I mean, probably about 50 years now. He's in every museum in the world, like his paintings.
And he does stuff in NFTs.
Now, he doesn't create PFPs.
It's real art.
And, you know, shit's nice.
It just looks good.
And, you know, Raoul Paul, he collects.
He has a vault, and he has probably about 150 pieces in it that he's been collecting and um you
know some of them he'll get a 101 for five eath or or whatever and you can go and look and people
are you know they're they're they're doing you know they're trying to get that off of him for
a lot more than what he put in and um he's just collecting he's just holding on to it now like i
said i want to do that you know in a sense of i
just like to collect and then if i can maybe here or there move one and make money and then
accumulate more you know that's kind of what i want to do because um yeah man like that's just
what people do man people with money they essentially just collect art and it's a good
way like if i had that opportunity for me i'd go back to like
just collecting my collectibles like my cards like for me like i got i'm a big pokemon guy and
and i still got some really good like psa 10 graded cards and i just want to just keep on
collecting those i don't know there was always something fun with flipping and and just having
these items my goal for them was always to be like if they were ever enough to be like a bit like to flip it for
down payment on a building that would be you know you're you're swapping one investment for another
but even then like yeah holding these things for like 20 years if not longer because like
they're just cool to have i know i mean pokemon came out when i was a kid and i wasn't ever into
that but my brother was he's younger than me and um if he would have just kept his
collection up because he you know he purchased the very first you know editions of them he had
a bunch of them he still has a bunch i don't know i never asked him like hey did you sell any or
whatever but he used to collect he had binders full you know just binders and binders full
and i was the same way way mainly with baseball cards.
I just, like, I played baseball.
I loved baseball.
And so I used to just collect baseball cards all the time, you know.
And it was just kind of something I did.
And I still have a shitload.
I mean, I have, I don't even know.
Nothing crazy like a collector because I stopped doing that when i was a kid but you know not in the 90s and all basically all of the
90s till probably 90 yeah basically all the entire i'd say all of the 90s i basically just collected
baseball cards so i'm sure i got some valuable ones like i got a lot of rookie cards from
hall of fame players and i never got them in the you know the plaques and all that but i'm sure
they're probably worth something and yeah man like that's what people do and like bringing that back
to digital art even even these pfp collections like like the pudgy penguins right like that's
more to me than just oh it's a profile picture it's a brand they have i mean it's dude they're
everywhere like you can go to walmart and buy their plushies and toys.
And, you know, they have animations and cartoons.
The same thing with Doodles.
Like, Doodles, they have, like, you know, they have all that stuff, too.
And then they have music videos with real musicians.
And, yeah, dude, they're at McDonald's. You know, it's just, like, it's not easy to find those type of things.
But it happens and now
with the tactics improving most people are always going to be sadly in the digital world so they're
going to want to collect things you know it's just how people are they're going to collect things and
i don't see that being any different with digital art and nfts and um you know basically that's what
i think so i could be wrong you know maybe people don't
but i i don't see that people always collect shit like your thing is talking about pokemon cards
like there's some of them worth a million dollars you know it's yeah so it's whatever people want
to buy it for right like there was a kid that um bought a pack of cards and he ended up getting
that one of one paul skeins pirates card and he sold it for over
a million dollars or whatever so you know people want you like that so even jordan's jordan you
know like um even shoes like jordan's old school shoes they're they're worth you know more than
what people bought them for it's just people like collecting and their sneaker heads i think i think
by habit we like to collect
things especially men like we just like to hoard shit and collect shit it's weird but that's how
we are it's in it's in our dna it's just it's just part of it yeah we have like an emotional
attachment to everything you know it's like literally yeah you see all these hoarder shows
i don't know if you ever watched them it's always guys it's never's never women. Sometimes it's women too, but it's mainly guys.
They're like, I don't want to get rid of that.
It's like, what the fuck, dude?
You have to have a hundred of those pieces or whatever.
But no, that's kind of what I think of things.
And I wish when I first got into the space,
I did take the collecting side of it more serious.
I just would always get one of each collection. it's kind of sucks because it's like uh the the airdrops and stuff
kind of helped out the the the whole collection slash thing and it made my stupidity work out but
it would have been nice to just mint you know a few of each things that i thought were pretty cool
and then see see where that goes because i know people that are retired now they're in their young 40s late 30s just because back in the day
they minted a bunch of pudgy penguins and you know board apes and stuff and you know they just liked
it they bought a bunch of them they're like it i'm i'm in the green from all my trades and everything
i'm just gonna buy a bunch of these things and then you know millions of dollars later they're just vibing and doing whatever they want the rest of their life literally
that's you know i wish dude the pudgy penguins they printed so hard uh the the airdrop when they
launched their token i think what was their supply the the supply of peng or the the actual
The supply of Pengu, or the actual OGs, those are 8,888 of them.
Okay.
And even after this market's been kind of shitty and stuff like that,
I mean, they're still worth like 1084.
So they're still worth a lot.
But even before that, the airdrop of the Pengu token was almost six figures alone.
And then there's been so many airdrops, pudgy penguin holders like so many like basically every single like ethereum based
product team that they do a token uh they usually airdrop whatever a little aloe to to pudgy penguin
holders and even the and then even the thing is is even the pudgy penguin holders
they are they cut the little pudgies and those things are worth over like a eth per per you
know i mean so you know they yeah they they ate well same thing with the you know the board apes
fuck if you were back then and you're like i'm gonna get some crypto punks i know people have got crypto punks too it's crazy they're worth like almost 50s
you know it's just it's insane and people think oh it's just art it's it's more than that it's just like i don't know how to explain it so it's sort of it's like a fraternity club slash vibe
yeah you know what i mean it's most yeah it's community for sure and then like brand recognition
yeah and then like like someone like myself right I don't really show myself my face on twitter
I mean I so you want to have pfp associated to your you know your character online which is like
I used to show my face online and then I kind of like once i got bad kid like that was like perfect this is my character this is it like now
i ain't selling it yeah exactly exactly you know and i it's then you can if you like to create
you can create uh scenes and storylines and good mornings and graphics and all based off of your profile pictures
and your NFTs and your art.
And then you can kind of live through your art.
It's a lot of fun.
I've been doing that for, I mean,
I've been creating content for over four years now, I think.
I think actually I started really doing it
in November of 21.
So not quite four years, I guess.
But yeah, for a while now you know and it's just been through being able to express myself through art and my my graphics and
fucking my profile pictures and stuff so it's been a lot of fun and then you're in all these
different communities and there's things to do parties or real life events and just all that
shit it's a one-time membership it's not
like you know i always explain yeah older people like well i don't understand nfts i'm like it's
kind of complicated but just imagine having a digital version of a country club membership
but the only difference is you don't have to keep renewing it every single year and um you know
you're sought after it's like a exclusive club you never know you're sought after. It's like an exclusive club. You never know who you're going
to meet. I know one of the coolest, when I first got started into crypto, was the Secret Anons
over on Secret Network. And that was back when Secret was popping and everyone that was building
cool stuff in the space had one. So they had a token- telegram and i've learned i learned so much about crypto and
tech and just everything from being in there not only just asking questions but just lurking and
reading people's conversations about different things that they're building and working on what
they thought was cool and that's all because they got a freaking nft you know it's just
it's cool man like i've met so many people millionaires people that uh you know they i
met this guy in dubai owned the fucking sick ass hotel like on the water in greece and it's because
he's in the nft community though man it's just like wearing greece uh i don't remember the town
of it but he sent me a picture it was real sick it was like on a cliff like a little bit of like
a cliff and um beautiful it's like where everyone does their honeymoons and stuff he's like yeah man i can hook you up he's
like i can't get you know i can't put you in there for free but i'll give you a really sick
deal just let me know at least a month month month and a half ahead of time and i'll get you in
and i was like all right cool like i said i have his contact if i ever make it over there i'm like
hey what's up what is that promise like what's up
so no man it's all it's all good i uh i'm always bullish i know the markets are just like meh
but um yeah right now everything's uh it's just at a discount yeah you know if you just want to buy
i mean like bitcoin under 90k amazing we're still up from like a year ago. Yeah, for sure.
It's people are scared, but like, yeah, still bullish.
Yeah.
Be a little bit more, a little bit more adventurous.
Just holding on to a bunch of altcoins though.
Like I narrowed mine down substantially and I wish I pulled, did that a lot earlier.
And even some of the ones that I'm, you know, I'm long on, they've been just getting battered right now.
And if you're just in the trenches in your trading, it's just like, oh, you could have sold it a long time ago for a lot.
I don't want to say a lot more, but a lot more.
And then if you're still convinced in it, then you get better buying opportunities at a discount.
I've been just collecting spot right now.
I haven't opened up any longs since I've gotten out of my short positions.
It was mostly just accumulating more cash, more jackal.
I'm looking at PIN on Ethereum.
And then I'm just stacking as much ETH and Bitcoin as I can.
Buying whenever I can.
But for my alt plays,
sold a cosh, bought more cosh. I think I'm just going to replay a cosh because I think it's going
to do good. Nice. I know tomorrow there's the stream swap for the architects and that's what
my current rendition of my doodle is right now. And I you know excited for that and um i haven't been checking too much
out on cosmos i know the rika is coming up and people are excited for rika and all that fine
stuff but um you know i i think if there is like a mass consolidation which i kind of project not
only in cosmos but just in crypto as a whole because there's been so much stuff and it's going
to be tough and challenging for everyone to to survive and be able to have enough financial
wherewithal to afford devs and keep building and all that other stuff so there may be some sort of
consolidation throughout all of crypto where uh you know people start to build more on already
pre-existing chains
that are doing well.
I think people are just going back to
fundamentals. We don't need
new stuff.
Create the fundamentals, build on fundamentals,
I think they're
going to win.
Unless you have a specific app
or infrastructure that you're using and specific app or or sort of infrastructure that
you're using and you want to be kind of uh like a port for that because i do get that not all tech
can be just built on a monolithic chain already because you might need your own infrastructure
to do what exactly you want to do but i think that kind of got diluted everyone was just going ham and
i know why they did it
because they get to raise a bunch of money and build their own stuff and it's like
cause them wasm developers for anyone they're they're really good so like the my opinion the
best dialect of rust language but yeah i was just gonna say like people who are developers
need to learn rust yeah it's just one of those upcoming programming languages.
There's not that many who know how to do it.
I think there's about proper successful Rust developers.
I don't know, 5,000, 10,000 developers?
Maybe even that number's wrong.
I saw a metric like that once, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, and the ones that
are not doing their own thing they're basically yeah probably probably on uh solana or building
something on solana because solana like it or not they're very um engaging they're very supportive
that's the word i was looking for supportive sorry everyone i'm kind of brain dead today but very
supportive of anyone that wants to build on the chain, regardless of what it is. Maybe not sort of grant wise. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't, like they're they support you you know it's like oh yeah you're
building this and then they'll you know they'll do a space with you they'll talk about you they
retweet your stuff they comment on your stuff they're you know inviting you to the salon on
breakpoints and their events and that's how it's supposed to be not not siloed off like oh well we
can't you know benefit from it and i did see that a lot in Cosmos. It was like the people that always benefited
from every single thing that was deploying on it,
if they weren't getting their hands in the cookie jar
with like tokens or some sort of like,
oh, we're going to run validators and get a grant for that.
If they weren't doing that, they were kind of hands off
and just kind of, oh, well, whatever.
So that was one of the things that I think
with Skip taking over, that's all going to change. They're a good team. know kind of oh well whatever so that was one of the things that i think you know with skip
taking over that's that's all going to change they're they're a good team so i'm not not saying
you know it's not easy i'm not trying to criticize people for their stances on what they were doing
or what they were believed in and building everything's experimental people got to remember
that still it's still early i don't care what anyone says it's early it takes it takes a long
time for stuff i remember i say it all the time but you know freaking amazon i mean it it was literally
just a bookstore it's in like 1993 and it did nothing really i mean it was cool but it took
you know over a decade for that thing to be start to become what it was like no one knew oh they're
just gonna take over one day and just be this fucking conglomerate and offer everything including streaming and all this other shit
and um that took a long time so i don't see any difference in this space you know i mean yeah like
the original idea of what you start to build never becomes like the final product that kind of just
evolves right like and like you had mentioned like it, it's, it's, they're testing it, right? It's very, like a playground.
Exactly. So, yeah, man, I'm, I'm always bullish. I think it's hard sometimes, you know, you're
like, well, am I, am I an idiot? Am I crazy? But I think there's really not much else out
there for people to kind of invest their money in to make a lot of money, potentially.
So crypto is always going to be that avenue for people.
Just right now, the market's so risk-off, and crypto is the last place for those type of individuals that want to throw their money into something.
You know, they may rotate some of their profits into some stuff, and you see people accumulating.
some of their profits into some stuff and you see people accumulating they you know still people
believe eth is significantly undervalued and people have been saying that for a long time and
it has yet to do anything so um you know do we see eight eight thousand eth this i don't know
like what what's what's your definition of a cycle like how long do you think that would go till
i don't know i'm hoping like end this year
next year. Yeah, there's so many random factors
though. Yeah, yeah.
Like I hear people saying like the end of the cycle
is happening Q3 of this year.
You know? Yeah. It's just
different numbers but like people who say that
are saying like Bitcoin's gonna be at
200,000 by then.
So like I don't see that happening i don't
see 200k bitcoin happening this cycle but i mean yeah i don't it's it's it's difficult to say on
that part because this is the first time that you have just random everyone is trying to accumulate
bitcoin or put it on their balance sheets or you regulate you know, we want it. So I don't know.
It's just a really different time than we've had in the past.
You have all these states that want reserves and countries
and financial institutions and hedge funds and all this shit.
So it's really hard to say.
I do know with ETFs, I don't think that money really trickles down to
anything else unless they also have ETFs
because a lot of these people
you know they're just doing all their pension plans
or whatever so they're not they don't even
actually physically own it they may not even know
how to freaking open up
you know a Kepler wallet
or a Metamask or any of this stuff they're just like
oh yeah Bitcoin and yeah
my head's back.
Which I think will get like a crypto ETF of like the top 100.
Yeah, I could see that happen eventually.
Right.
And like whenever I look at the Bitcoin chart,
like I'm going to pull it up right now,
but I feel like they're trying to wipe out the last four years
and just kind of restart from like that
2021 period
maybe I'm just delusional
but no I mean it's
yeah it's hard to say
it's just been a crazy crazy
time for like if they did that
then that means like
Bitcoin would have to drop to like
something like that
I don't count anything at all but for something like that to happen there would have to drop to like 58, something like that.
I don't count anything at all.
But for something like that to happen,
there would have to be some crazy events in the world.
Yeah, you need a couple black swans. Yeah, a couple black swans.
You would need Iran to beef with and jack the gasoline prices up.
Yeah.
Just screw up that sort of market
because then everything goes haywire from there
or some other crazy war happens
that's not really projected to happen right now.
Like there's just so many random factors
because wars are never good for any markets.
It's just because like I said earlier,
when there's volatility and uncertainty,
like the people that actually do move the charts,
like they're just
like risk off they're just accumulating gold or or um you know or just dollars and people always
because if you think about it like i think we in this space you get a lot of people that think
oh the dollar's trash and in theory they're not wrong but it's always good to have for crazy events and for
you to buy stuff on discount you know i mean like because you think about it right okay the dollar
you're say say it goes down whatever i don't know the numbers right now per per year the purchase
and power of it right it's like whatever it is i should know this right now but i'm just like i
said i'm kind of brain dead today but let's just let's just go with a random like the inflation number or let's just go let's even just say some drastic number seven ten percent
per year right dude like all these other things are going down way more than 10 right now so it's
like you know what i mean okay this went to this and that went to that well this dollar we're
talking about last year or this week's price i'm just talking about
like over the last like oh basically after the trump pump ended whenever he got elected we had
that run-up and then yeah so we're talking now november or like the top of like mid-february
of this year well it wouldn't be november because it just started to rock but like i think it ran
to what in january ish before yeah January
and then for a good six weeks yeah yeah so when he got in and then yeah six weeks after yeah so
say you're like okay I'm this thing's none of this is making really sense like I get it people are
excited that he won and you know blah blah blah but like is it really gonna be sustainable like
the interest rates are still really high and there's no liquidity really flowing around it's just like the same capital
it just keeps going in a circle so maybe like let's take some profits and i wish i would have
taken more or just like moved around and did whatever or just accumulated more dollars to
buy in random stuff because like there's a lot of things right now i'm looking at like damn
it's a pretty good price like i don't see much more downside you know maybe another 10 15 percent
but it's probably a nice little kind of nice little buy right here and then um and then just
swing trade it like okay because it's gonna run up like even even last week we had a good
few days there i think like towards the end of last week where stuff was running up a little bit.
I mean, yeah, like, ETH ran up.
Well, like, let's say this week, right?
So, like, ETH ran up.
Well, last week.
So, like, ETH ran up 6 point something percent from, like, 1960 to, like, 2100, I think.
We're just shy from, like, 2100.
But then it went down to, like, 1.5 and, and like lower than that at the start of the week, right?
And you see like XRP jumped to roughly like $0.2.
But that was like after legal news came out, right?
Something about like the SEC.
They got back about a couple million.
Well, a couple million, like I think $75 million
they got back from the SEC.
Yeah, it's pretty low yeah yeah i mean there's some stuff out there you know like we you had the um story
protocol ran for a bit and it's cold enough now people are you know taking profits or whatever
but any of this stuff really just like you just accumulated dollars during that time and then you're like
you know what i really like you know i like this or like that then you can just start buying in
right now and just getting in and uh like i don't do dca i i kind of do dca but i do more like a
dynamic cost average and so for like anyone out there like what's that it's just like i have my
set i have my like fucking buys and like if it goes down this much more i'm gonna buy actually
more value like bring more paint into the into the picture because then it just lowers my my
overall buy yeah and then i was like i'll have my last buy mark where it's like i hope it doesn't
hit this but if it does this is my last clip of ammunition that i'm gonna throw at it and then
after that i'm just letting it ride like and i did that with a kosh back in
the straight up bear market and i was like all right once i was like i looked at it because i
bought like wave as soon as i got into space that was one of my first buys and like back then it was
probably like over two bucks but that's like way after all you know there's been so much yeah there's
been so much inflation since then so it doesn't really matter like it's kind of hard to figure
that out that's why people they people that just look at numbers
go it's this and it used to be that well what's the what was the market cap and how much difference
is the market cap because that's really all that matters if you especially if you've mistaken it
but anyways it went down like under a quarter and that's really when my my spider senses came up i
was like all right i'm gonna buy a little little a quarter. And then I was like, I'll buy a little bit more under $0.20.
And then I had $0.15, like $0.16.
Because sometimes it's perfect numbers.
People are always waiting for it, and then it doesn't hit.
So I was like, I think I had like $0.16.
And then I was like, all right, I'm going to have another buy under $0.15.
And that was it.
And then I just let it rise.
It's just like just held on to
this entire time and i still i'm still holding on to it's like my bag that i'm just like i don't
care what happens in this crazy short term i like what they're doing maybe maybe it doesn't work out
or whatever at the end of the road but it's just like one of those ones i just try to do that with
a bunch of different ones that i feel like they actually have revenues and products and then people can use it, whether they're a business or a consumer or AI or, you know, a freaking AI agent in the future, like stuff like that.
That's why I'm really bullish on Jackal.
Like they're really looking to like AI and see what they can do with their storage files, how long they need these files to be in here.
And then if not, OK, they cancel their subscription to like not hold x amount of files because they only need to hold this amount so like
jackal like i'm looking at the jackal chart right now and it looks beautiful hey i'm gonna look at
it right now the only thing the only problem it's not really a detriment to jackal like the actual
technology of it it's just starting to get a little that space is starting to get a little bit saturated too.
What, Deepin or File Storage?
Both.
Walrus just launched.
The problem with
there's a pro
and con, but a lot of the teams
that... I think history matters.
If the last
people who Deepin products
who've been building for
like since 2021 2022 like the new ones that come out are just there for like hype day unless they
have like a really good product and they just get mass adoption of users like i'm really excited for
jackal to get out of testnet on eat base and just start like rolling out everything oh yeah like like i
have no problem what they're doing i like their team i was one of the first teams that i met in
the space and i always liked them they're young and hungry and all that the only problem is is
that when you don't really raise money which a lot of cosmos products don't they don't raise money
they raise a lot of money then you have these teams like walrus that raised a shit load of money and they just have they just have a money printer so it's like you could be first but
you know it doesn't mean you're going to be last and yeah you know i've seen this plenty i've seen
this story plenty of times like teams are like oh i've been doing this since 2020 or 2021 and you
kind of are away before the the party started And you were very innovative on whatever sort of niche that you were going for before anyone else thought it was cool or like grifted over.
But unfortunately, in the space, it's kind of so PVP.
These grifters, they just got money printers.
They raise $100 million, $200 million, $300 million.
And then they have all these people behind it.
You know, it's like and it might not even be a better product.
The other team that didn't raise any money actually is probably a better product.
It's just that no one knows about it or no one's going to go use it,
whether it's because it's hard to use or it's I don't want to use that wallet
or whatever the reason why.
It's like, oh, they just flock to where the hype is at.
Even if the hype isn't really warranted, it's more just some of these products are just really good marketing teams.
And then they sustain.
For a while, Polygon was like that, right?
Polygon, I don't care what anyone says.
Doran, when it was real hype, it was never a good product to use.
It was always really clunky.
It wasn't real expensive, but it still wasn't real cheap and it just felt clunky you know and but it shot up like
a it shot up like a cannon because they they were just basically a good marketing team and sometimes
that's kind of all you need if you have yeah it's yeah you know if you have if you have the money
and the capital and the and the wherewithal to do all that,
you can kind of catch up to everyone, like, no matter what, right?
Like, a new team can, like, say someone in Dubai is like,
oh, you know what, I like this deep end space, and I have, you know,
we can raise $500 million.
Like, that payment raises this fresh capital.
It's probably going to pass up anyone that's been building
for the last four years in that space.
Especially if their token price is beaten battered.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, because like capital plus execution plus like analysis just equals success.
You know, so like those people who just want to replicate products have that formula set up for them.
And they know it's just massive profits after yeah i
mean i've seen it so many times i don't try to be bearish but so many times these teams and
protocols and builders they're tapping into the cosmos sdk and or the comet bft which is used to
be called tendermint and all they're doing because what's cool about cosmo is they allow you to change
it and fix it and alter it and plug and chug it's very much it's literally the definition of modular like not everyone it's like oh we're
doing these modularity things it's all because of cosmos it's a hundred percent because proof of
stake is because cosmos like it's just yeah like cosmos conceptualized the proper decentralized
blockchain vision but like at the end of the day does that even matter because you
know people just build they can use it and pretend they didn't use it and have you know and never
even mention it and just go about their day i think i think for builders it matters for users
not so much because users don't really care what happens in the background as long as they can get
what they want done yeah it's true and you know the users are where the money's at
so like if people are using it you know like um binance you know there's binance smart chain
used cosmos and no one knew about that and i remember whenever we we were so headed with the
upgrades and updates and we we you know i remember people the developers were even mentioning it to
binance like hey you need to update your chain there's we found a you know a bug and they didn't
do it and there was that hack that like happened maybe like a year and a half ago or whatever it
was and like a lot of money got lost that is because they you know they built the tech they
used the tech from you know the and didn't keep up with it's the same thing with linux right like
linux is free and open source but linux developers
and people that use it on a day-to-day like they'll say hey like you you know if you're running a
linux system you don't ever update it like something bad's gonna happen it's kind of the
same thing if you're using the stack you have to update it people finding glitch or a bug or
you know whatever it is and it's like you gotta update it even if you're pretending you're not
cosmos you're using the tech you gotta you gotta update it then what happens is someone sees this vulnerability
and then they just exploit it and then a bunch of people lose their money but you know finance
can pay they can afford it they're they have a money printer but my point is is it's kind of
unfortunate but it's just what it is man it's just business at the end of the day and sometimes you
gotta you gotta treat everything like a business and there's a fine line and some teams do better than others
and there's just a lot of there's a lot of dynamics in in the in the space and i think
the teams that can conceptualize like the kind of the old bd and the old ways of things but also
like a like a new modern hit to it or successful,
you know? Like last year
around May, that like Ripple
Ledger started, like they started
to utilize
Evmos OS, right? So like they
enabled EVM and like
Cosmos
on Ripple's network.
I remember news coming out like that.
They used something with their contracts also.
They were using CW20 to merge for their EVM sidechain.
The XRPL, exactly that.
Yeah, and then there was Corium.
They were building out infrastructure to go to and from.
Yeah, I mean, everyone's – well, that's why when I got into this space,
I eventually, when I was doing all the research and digging and asking questions
and trying to figure out, like, well, this isn't sustainable in general.
This is before I found out about Cosmos and IBC.
I was like, you can't go from one blockchain to the other.
And if you do, it's all escrows.
And then escrows are dangerous because something can happen.
There's too, like the whole beauty of crypto
was supposed to be decentralization
and no central points of failure.
It was like, and then we had all these solutions out there
that people were using where there is central points of failure
and there's someone holding onto your keys.
And unfortunately, most of these l2s like on ethereum they're really just multi-sigs with say
five seven people on it and kind of vulnerable and um you know and i'm just like none of this
stuff and none of this stuff is like sustainable when i first got into this space i was like
this doesn't make any sense and then from a user perspective it was always kind of shitty because you had to switch networks like using a metamash
like oh i gotta go from this chain to that you have to manually change it and i'm like no one's
gonna do this stuff like i'll do it because i want to learn and mess around but no normal person's
gonna want to do this and um and that's when i found cosmos like when when osmosis launched oh this makes a lot of
sense and i learned about you know merkel proofs and and just like how all that stuff works and
that there's essentially no person ever holds those keys or your assets when you're going from
one chain to the other it basically would burn it would issue it on one chain then burn it you know
and burn it from the pre-existent one
and everything's kind of an oracle and it knows all the data points because it's all
all in the same systems and i was like man this shit's like futuristic and i never did think of
ibc or cosmos as uh as as essentially uh competition to any pre-existent blockchain
or futuristic blockchains i always just looked at it
just kind of the highways those you know connect yeah just to get from to and from safely and
securely like for me cosmos just made sense in my brain yeah it did because like and i and i didn't
need too much technical knowledge to just know that ibc makes sense yeah it makes total sense
it makes like beyond sense and it's it's
crazy so many people still don't know about it like you know yeah because like i get it man
and like you're just doing what you're doing and you're having fun like i'm not gonna lie
most of the stuff that i'm using or doing now has nothing to do with cosmos like i try everything
out and like i said before and i've never viewed cosmos as basically as um competition to anyone
maybe maybe polka dot because polka dot had a different twist to it and i i didn't like polka
dot from the sense of like i don't want to rent from anyone if i can earn my own land and it's
and it's reasonably priced like sometimes renting is the right option even in real life right like
maybe you're younger you want to move you don't want to be tied into a mortgage or whatever. But
then at some point in your life, you're like, you know what, I'm ready to own something. I want my
own piece of property. And, you know, maybe I don't want a landlord that can just say, hey,
I'm selling my house next year. You got to move out or, you know, we're jumping your rent rate up
and there's basically nothing to do. So like sometimes renting isn't the right way.
But for me, it just was like, I don't understand why anyone would want to use Polkadot because,
you know, you have to basically buy all these tokens and just to be able to use their network.
And I get it from a monetary standpoint, a business standpoint.
It absolutely makes sense to do with Polkadot's, you know, business model.
Because like at the end of the day, people that are giving you their money early, they want to make money with it.
They don't want to be like, oh, well, I don't know what the token's even for.
And then so like there's that that little twist to it, too.
And we've seen, you know, over the years, you know, I don't know if Cosmos would have this much adoption that it does it has over like on our blockchains if they kind of did the polka dot model. I don't know. But I do know that it's hard sometimes when people can't understand what the purpose of your token is like whether that's Cosmos or just anything in general, because sometimes not everyone does need a token and so like it's really difficult at times you know so and that's
kind of how the valuations of these things are they're really hard to to kind of give it a good
evaluation on it so that's why shit goes so volatile it's like oh yeah we think it's worth
this and some things will launch like bear chain launch and you're like what like they were raising
money at billions of dollar valuation like early you know like i'm like i'm never giving anyone in like
crypto i don't care what they say they're building my money like early like early is like two two
years one one two years before they're even going to tge so that means that money is just dead until
they tge i'm never giving money to anyone at that crazy valuations
like now if you're talking that you know in the hundreds of millions or something then that's a
different story but if you're like hey you know we're we're raising at 2.5 3 billion dollar
valuation if you want to get in like no like you know that doesn't even make any sense because i
i don't even know sometimes why some of these blockchains are even worth that much. Like their FDV is like $2.5 billion.
And I'm like, why?
Like I just don't, I don't, I think the tech is pretty cool and I like what they're doing,
but still it's so early and there's so many other things out there.
And I think besides like the liquidity and all that, I think a lot of people are realizing
that they're just like, I don't, I don't think that's a proper valuation.
You know, like why am I paying that much when I could just do this, or I could just buy some
Bitcoin, or I could, you know, buy some, whatever they're buying, you know what I mean? So it's
just like, you know, I'm rambling, but the point is, is that I think it's really hard. And I think
that's why a lot of times teams build, and they're just building more infrastructure, as opposed to
like the next big application that can onboard, you know, potentially a billion people. It's because
like no one knows how to give a proper valuation, especially to applications. Like they kind
of can for infrastructure because the VCs are like, okay, I'll give you my money. I'm
getting it at this rate and I know when I'm getting it, and I'm probably going to print at least a multiplier or two. So I'm willing to do it.
But for apps, it's like, how do you, it's just almost nearly impossible, you know? So,
cause you even look at it, if you want to look at it for the case sample Uber, right? Like
everyone knows Uber now, but like when Uber was getting going, like no one knew how to give it a
proper valuation, but people knew it was going to be gigantic, and they were just throwing their money at it.
But it took them forever to turn a profit.
I don't even know if it's still profitable.
It's hard to give a right valuation for just an application.
I don't know, man.
I kind of sound a little bit bearish right now.
I don't want to be bearish.
It sounds a bit bearish, but
I understand. It's
just the times right now.
Yeah, I don't want to be bearish because I'm always
bullish. I think
I'm willing to let
shit ride, and I don't
in theory need the money in the short term.
Yeah. If you do, man,
it's time to evaluate yourself and
figure out why you're doing what you're doing. I wouldn't be short term yeah if you do man it's time to evaluate yourself and come you know you figure
out why you're doing what you're doing i wouldn't be blindly doing anything right now if you're like
hey like i was saying earlier i honestly per um i think that like high-end art's gonna be worth a
lot of money just like high-end collectible baseball cards and basketball cards and football
cards and pokemon cards and all this shit's worth a lot of
money uh sometimes you might need to buy that that michael jordan basketball card for two and
but as long as you're selling you know it's okay to sell your profits or sell assets but as long
as you sell in the green and we're ultra bullish in the market yeah if you're selling the bear i
mean just figure out some other
ways to make money don't sell your crypto that's my philosophy like i try to avoid selling in bear
markets i just want to buy and buy and hold and wait till i turn a really good profit and then
also 25 35 here and there like on a good green day yeah and like one of the things that i would sit from my
experience with with that mentality too is you know even if you take a cut and you lost some
money on your investment and you wanted to rotate it into something you truly thought was better not
because oh it's hype and all this but you're like you know what i just made the wrong move it didn't
do what it's gonna do and but i also like this and i'm
gonna rotate into that yeah that's not a bad thing either like i waited too long i did well on xrp
like i didn't early it wasn't even because i just like was like oh this is you know this is gonna
do this it was just like all right i think these lunatics are gonna just make the price go up over
time and um it did it's a game stop effect yeah so you know went up
to like three dollars or whatever it was and then i was like you know what where can i rotate this
because i don't think it's going to keep running yeah and then i was like all right well what's
real beat up and you know and it wasn't even just from my own like research you know it wasn't it
wasn't but i was like all right ethereum like ethereum has been just battered and like hasn't done
anything to cycle at all like nothing like basically it's been a turd is it underperforming
or it's gonna blow people out of the water and and yeah over exceed expectations and i don't know
and i still think it could be a potentially goodbye because the last five years at one point or another it was at twenty
seven hundred dollars so you know i think it was already at twenty seven hundred this this year
since january maybe if not it was definitely um no no it was it was so maybe that doesn't count
then because it's already been here this in 2025 what did eat top at they didn't touch six no way
it touched no it didn't touch six four not even three grand
this this time around it's been i don't even think it hit all the time highs from last cycle
let me see i'm looking right now so eve is at 1825 right now the high ever was 4878 and that was three years ago so this cycle ish
the highest it hit
was like
four grand
damn
but yeah it's been just a turd
dude like literally just
dog shit
I got one last question before like I go
but talking about like goal setting
what's what's
the ultimate goal for you for 2025 i mean it's the market that well my ultimate goal is to get
a nice spot like in real life like yeah i got a decent spot right now but i want to get a better
spot and um you know it's just like i've been kind of waiting and the market the real estate market um it's not
gonna crash like people think it's gonna crash like i could retrace yeah now crashing is a big
word but yeah even if it retraces 20 30 i'm happy yeah and it's just like i'm kind of thinking it's
gonna do something like that it has it's already starting to retrace because i've been tracking a lot of different places that i'm yeah that's a
fresh place and just looking at it and they're always reducing the price and sometimes it's only
by 10 000 and it's like that's not really much compared to what the relative price of the house
is but you're seeing the estimates like the zillows and all these different places, the estimates are getting kind of close to what the person wants to sell it for.
But if you were to look six months ago, a year ago, the people, say a random house, they want $700K for it.
You would look at the Zillow and it would be like, we think it's worth $480K or $500K.
That's a big gap there.
Or you look, the person bought it two years ago and they bought it for $300.
And yeah, they might have threw some money into it.
It's pretty nice.
Now they want over 2x their money back.
It's like, no, man, that's not going to happen.
No one's going to do it.
And if they do, they're a total moron.
Because to me, it's like if you have capital, it's kind of, it's, you can make moves.
Like if someone's saying, oh, we're going to sell for this, you can go and give them kind of, in my opinion, you probably can just go around and give people disrespectful offers because someone needs the money.
Like a lot of people are tapped right now.
And like the only sort of revenue or money that they can bring in besides their job is probably their asset that's just been sitting there for six months and yeah you know you're
still people out there if you're selling your house especially in america you're still paying
all the taxes you're still probably paying the utility bills because you need to keep it running
so it's just like you're you're just burning money because there's no money coming in from
that spot now some people don't care because they're they're doing well financially and they're
just like whatever that's just like an asset that i'm just like i got holding yeah i'm
just holding and i got to kind of maintain it by doing stuff but i know there's a lot of people
out there like fuck i need to get this i need to sell this house so you could tell they're the
ones that are they're sitting there dropping it every two weeks like by five thousand or ten
thousand dollars in my opinion you could probably just go there and just give them a disrespectful offer like give like offer whatever like the estimate
is and maybe even below that yeah they want more it's like nah man like and then you end it off
you're like just put the fries in the bag and then close the deal yeah like take it or leave it do
you want to sell this or not if you want to sell for this i'm i'm willing to do it if not then like
good luck like that's all you have to say to people because I don't know who's really buying because if you are buying right now, it's because you already have your place and you don't care.
You're just buying it for another investment or whatever or you need to sell your spot because you physically have to move somewhere else.
No one's just voluntarily doing that because they're locked in an interest rate way better than they're going to get right now.
So you kind of just have to play around and wait.
And me personally, I've been overly patient over the last year plus.
And now it's starting to become more of a reality because I can see the prices just keep going down on a lot of these spots.
You see the hope rise.
Yeah, so that's kind of my goal, you know?
There's more than just that goal, but I think you've got to have a goal.
What are we even doing?
If you don't have a goal and you're just kind of shooting blindly,
it's so difficult.
Kudos to you. But it's impossible. I like so difficult kudos to you but it's
impossible i don't know how you do it it's impossible you could do it but you're losing
money or you're yeah losing money doesn't mean um you you're down from your initial it means that
you're costing yourself because you probably could have made a move or two because you had a goal
because of opportunity cost yeah you're like hey you know what um you
know it's like take a gander on this or i want to you know i like what this team's doing or you know
what fuck i don't like what anyone's doing right now let me just sell and stack stable coins and
wait for a better opportunity to get in at a better rate like whatever it is at least you know what
you're doing not just shooting blindly like i'm not gonna lie when i i first got in i was somewhat shooting blindly because everything was just not making any rational sense that was really difficult
and getting caught up in the hoopla and but i did know like oh the cycle is probably at the top like
tom brady's on 78 commercials and teams are throwing their money around but i my my thing was
is i'm i'm in crypto so like i'm not taking profits and if I do it's This UST thing it's a
Stablecoin and didn't really forecast
It not to be stable even though I should have
Just my you know just by anchor protocol
Being crazy and nonsense
I didn't even really use anchor protocol that's the
Bad part but um but yeah like I
Was just like I'm gonna buy in at a low rate now
My thing didn't work and then I got
Stubborn and didn't sell when
UST started dpegging
i should have just sold all of it and said fuck it um but i learned my lesson you know i was like
all right now now it's like as long as you're not repeating the same mistakes because that's
another thing that people do like they have these mistakes and they just decide to repeat them
because they think okay it's to be different this time.
And it's not because history kind of repeats itself.
If not, it kind of mimics it.
Yeah, what's that saying?
I can't think of it right now. It's like trying to do the same thing over and over is insane.
I forget what the saying is.
get what the saying is but yeah there's something or or there's that one trying to what is it um
But yeah, there's something.
pound a round peg into a square hole or or the opposite whatever it is but yeah that's kind of
what it is you you have to realize like you know it's all good to make mistakes like you're gonna
make mistakes in this in this uh there's no one i don't care who they are that says they get
everything right in this space if they are they're a narcissist, and you should unfollow them and just not listen to them because you're going to make mistakes.
You just want to try to mitigate the mistakes and make it as less as possible and as small as possible.
But I think a way to do that is to journal and have goals.
I write shit down every day.
Yeah, gotcha. I break down. This is the last thing i'm gonna say before i
leave but like every year i kind of break down my my year calendar into four small groups and and
every quarter is like it's old mini year and then how i break down the month would be like
okay what do i need to get what needs to happen at the end of this month what do i need to get done at the end of each week and then a thing i need to get done
for the day it's kind of how i break down my task what needs to get done today what needs to get
done for the end of the week and what needs to get done by the end of the month and then you have
that big goal of every quarter and then yeah i think i like it better like that i find yeah my brain kind of
processes better instead of having like these goals being like ah i'm gonna do this for next
year you're kind of not setting yourself up for failure or disappointment but like you get carried
away with ah i have 364 days left I can continue this tomorrow and tomorrow.
And no, like for me, if I need to get something done today and then I have the task or the job
that needs to get done at the end of the week
and then it's like, for me, it could be,
okay, let me, for my month goal of April,
I want to get one new ghostwriting client
that I can write for every month, you know,
and onboard another client.
That's one goal.
And then like many tasks would
be like other clients. Okay. I have to finish their writings for, for that week. And then,
you know, it can be personal or business, but like, as long as you're a goal setting.
Yeah. That's a, I mean, you set goals and you're about to hop off. I'm going to end the space too,
but you know, you look and see these, the people with money, there money, they're accumulating stuff right now.
It is what it is.
There's a reason why people sell off, they're doing what they're doing,
but then you see some random well that'll just buy $50 million of this
and $50 million of that.
They're not doing that because they're just doing that.
They might just be swing trading because they're like,
oh, it's a good spot.
Maybe ETH is going to retest 2K and I'm just going to sell it all just 50 mil because of
whatever you know like that's that could be a plausible thing too so you don't want to just
oh the market's back this dude's buying all this money or they're doing this and that but um you
know for them to start entering in this spot is usually it's a good, good indication. And, um, you know, I, I do think we're,
we are going to get another, another run.
I don't know when it's going to happen,
but I do think it's going to happen this year.
So that's my thing. And I'm not just being hoping, but I really do.
There's just like nothing out there for anyone to throw their money in.
And people speculate, they want to make money on stuff.
And where is that?
I don't know.
Or anywhere else right now that's kind of a better place to make like crazy amounts of money in a short time span.
So these people, and they're in now because they've all got the green lights now.
So all these hedge funds and all that, they don't have to worry about, oh, I can't put, you know, I can't have my, you know, my.
Like a lot of these companies are just adding Bitcoin on their balance sheet, you know, I can't have my, you know, my. Like a lot of these companies are just adding Bitcoin on their,
on their balance sheet, you know, like Tesla, Michael strategies,
GameStop recently started doing it.
I think they're holding like half a million or they just started.
I think TSM has half a million Bitcoin in their balance sheet.
Yeah.
But that's the last thing I got to do.
I got to leave right now.
Thanks for having me.
See you next week.
See you next week. Yeah. So anyone Anyone else man, I just wanted to appreciate
I see some of you
What is it, the mad scientists
Shout out to all the mad scientists
And bad kids in here
And everyone else
We'll get it going
I kind of did this last minute again on Sunday
I was just like, you know what, I'll do it
So now that I know, I'll start to get other speakers and you know get some people together
so it'll be more of a back and forth with multiple guests and hopefully i don't have to talk as much
even though i guess i can talk uh yeah i appreciate everyone i hope a good rest of your monday
finish the week or start the week off strong and improve today and get after it and if there's
anything i can help out with, feel free to reach out.
I got my private.
It's not private.
It's a public telegram group.
It's free.
T.me backslash Haas Army.
You can join, ask questions, share things with others, man.
That's what it's about.
So appreciate everyone.
Have a good rest of your day.
Cheers, everyone.
