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🔥🎙️BITCOIN 🔥 LIFE 🔥 REST 🔥 POSITIVITY 🔥 @AshleyDCan Interview 🔥 LWoX🔥
Recorded: July 6, 2025 Duration: 2:19:43Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the launch of new initiatives, including the 'Breaking Barriers' space and predictions for Bitcoin's future price, highlighting trends in institutional interest and potential market volatility.
Full Transcription
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What's up, what's up, what's up?
Happy Sunday.
Happy last week on X. So excited to be with all you fabulous people. Oh are, I think, good.
Like, no matter how you slice and dice it or look at it, fireworks are good, right?
So we love that.
I only lost two fingers this year.
Wait, what?
I'm just kidding.
Please tell me no one lost any fingers.
I don't want to hear that. I don't want anyone to lose any fingers, but I did enjoy some
beautiful last NYC fireworks, possibly. That was very enjoyable. I was at a park with friends.
That was lovely. So I've had a really, really, really great weekend with friends, fireworks.
The weather has been beautiful. It's very Florida vibes, which, you know,
I don't know, it's all coming full circle. The move is real. It's in full effect. I gave
my notice at work this week. So yeah, shit is getting real. It's been emotional. Yeah,
the whole work thing. I mean, I like to share this because I'm sure a lot of you can relate.
Life changes are a lot.
So anyone who has any life changes going on that wants to like, you know, chat about this,
like, please, because there's a lot of freaking emotions that go on when you're making a big
life change.
And like, it's all exciting.
I'm so excited'm I'm so
excited I'm so excited but there's so many things going on for me you know and
so yeah this week Monday I had to give my boss my supervisor my notice my month
notice and then I'm gonna have to over the next you know week or whatever start to tell
my clients and it's a very emotional thing my friends are very you know my friends in New York
are very emotional about it they're like not happy about it so I just saw a bunch of them for the
fourth and so it's a lot of things it's just it life stuff. But I'm very excited. And my friends in Florida are very excited and all of that.
But so, yeah.
So that's been going on for me.
Other than that, just some quick announcements, real quick updates.
And then I want to, oh, my God, we have so many awesome people in the room and so many people to chat with.
But Tuesday, guys, we're starting a new weekly space, Breaking Barriers,
focused on headlines, current events that day,
also brought to you by Network Access Group.
So, guys, if you have not already checked out Network Access Group
and give them a follow, please do.
They are showing us all the love and support.
So please, please check them out.
And yeah, so we start Tuesday Breaking Barriers.
We'll be doing that at nine o'clock Eastern Standard Time.
So very excited about that.
And I'm also doing an appearance on Chrissy Mayer's podcast on Saturday.
So next Saturday.
Also, I believe we're going live at 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time on Chrissy Mayer's podcast.
So a lot of cool things coming up.
Yeah, and I'll keep putting it out there.
But thank you guys so much.
And my lovely co-hosts, Leah and Shane.
Leah, oh my God, babe, haven't heard from you.
I haven't seen, I mean, last I saw you in person, we had so much fun.
I love getting together with you.
How are you doing?
How's everyone's fourth weekend going?
Hi, darling.
Thanks for being here.
Thank you so much.
so much. Of course. Thank you for having me. Hello, everyone. I'm having a really quiet weekend
Of course.
Thank you for having me.
Hello, everyone.
because I was in Ibiza for a week before, so I had to recover after that. But yeah,
just relaxing. And I'm excited that you invited me to this wonderful podcast about my favorite topic,
Bitcoin. So I'm excited. I'm also excited to chat with Ashley. I've been following
her for a long time and I know of her for a while. So this will be really interesting.
It's going to be so good. I'm so happy that you are available because Ashley, I'm so excited for
her to be our guest tonight. And I feel like you guys have so much that you in common to talk
about related to crypto and Bitcoin and NFTs and all of that. So I am so happy that you were
available to be with us tonight. Oh, yeah. My pleasure. You rock. Shane, how are you doing,
my friend? I'm doing great. the long weekend just chilling
how were your fireworks?
I'm glad they had a hybrid
I had fireworks and a drone show
if they would have went
just full drone show
I would have been disappointed
but as long as they incrementally
shift us over
that I can tolerate
so they did like a 50,
50 thing, which was cool. Fabulous. I love it. Um, yeah, no, I mean, I, my experience was great
in New York with the fireworks too. So, um, you know, lots of fireworks going on all around. I hope everyone's weekend and holiday has been great.
So, yeah, real quick, and we'll, you know, we'll get into the interview with Ashley very, very quickly here.
But Leah, did you want to kick it off with any predictions?
I know you've been talking a bit about Bitcoin predictions and stuff going on.
predictions and stuff going on so i'm just curious do you have any updates for us or
So I'm just curious, do you have any updates for us or?
yeah i mean um so i've been in bitcoin since 2017 and at a room as well and yeah i'm just
holding buying you know i have this system of of just buying every month um mostly the same amount
and then when you see a huge huge dip in in this asset, of course, then you can buy more.
And yeah, I was just doing a little bit of research on the cycles, right?
We know that Bitcoin is moving in cycles.
This is tied to the halving events, right?
So it occurs every four years and it reduces mining rewards and creates supply shock, which
of course is creating bullish trend so if i did a
little bit of a history on those cycles because of course i'm curious where my bitcoin can go
so when i was looking at the the history of the cycles to kind of like try to estimate where
bitcoin can get in this cycle which will be in next between august and october will be the end
so for example for context um the bitcoin price usually peaks 12 to 18 months after halving cycle
followed by correction so the past cycle shows in 2012 halving price went from 1212 to $1,100 by late 2013. So the price peaks always later after the halving.
It was a 9,000% increase. In 2016, the price went from $650 to $20,000. And that frenzy I was already
in, I remember it really well when I purchased my first Bitcoin for $5,600, and by December 17, we had $20,000 price,
which was 3,000% increase.
In 2020, the price went from $8,600 to $69,000 by November 2021.
So you see there is a pattern.
And of course, it was 700% increase.
We cannot expect to have 9,000% increase with an asset that's now over $100,000, but there are still significant gains.
In the current cycle, 24-25, Bitcoin reached all-time high.
Now actually last two days ago, but before it was in January, 25, 109,000.
And the cycle is about 900 days in with historic peaks around 1100 days.
So we have 200 more days to go, which is bringing on in the fall approximately.
So what do I think about 2025?
I mean, look, we can look at the historic cycle patterns.
We can look at market data, what's happening with the economy and the forecasts of experts,
if you can call them that way.
So for 2025, I think like the base case, we get to 130, maybe 180 in that range.
I mean, it's a big range, but you know, when Bitcoin moves, it moves.
So by the end of this year, that's a potential.
If you look at analysts from Standard Shared,ert. They predict 200,000. Vanek predicts 180,000.
Matrix Ford, 160.
So, you know, we have a lot of ETF flows.
We have a lot of institutional buying.
It's a completely new situation
as was in 2020 or before.
You know, we have,
so we have this peak project.
It's from October, August to October 2025.
I'm leaning towards that as well, because this kind of speculative assets love to run in November.
So I think that this October, November will be like a huge, huge rally that can bring us to much higher prices.
Of course, there are some bulls like Tom Lee, who is predicting 250,000.
Chamath is predicting 500,000.
That would be a parabolic rally.
I take it with a grain of salt.
You know, I'm rather going to think of a base case and then be very happily surprised.
Of course, there is also a bearish case.
Look, if the Feds don't cut rates in September, July, the market is predicting a 4% chance that they will cut
rates. I don't think they will. September, there is a 66% chance currently when we look
at the Fed tools. You can Google it, CME Fed tool, that they will cut rates. So if they
don't, there is a potential Bitcoin will go back to 80, 95 000 if we have some issues with the tariffs
of course it's volatile asset so there is the potential of that but um i don't think in this
cycle we would see like less than 80 000 anymore for me personally would be a buying opportunity
and then of course after the cycle you can see a correction and these corrections are usually pretty
aggressive so i don't care
about those because i know the cycle i've been there done that um for me it would be just really
if the bitcoin would go like for forty thousand dollars which is possible in those corrections
it would be just a time for me to buy more i think this asset is staying here
it's not going anywhere um it is pretty solid at this point. And to wrap up this long monologue here,
you know, like think about the boomers
when they were buying their real estate
for $100,000 20, 30 years ago.
And we are now all like,
oh, boomers, your house is now $1.5 million.
So what if, just what if,
we have a chance to buy Bitcoin for $100,000
in 20, 30 years,
this asset will be 1.5 million?
And the new generations will be like, oh, you guys are owning Bitcoin and you bought
it for $100,000.
You know, there are all these potentials.
So I think having this asset in your investment portfolio is extremely crucial.
For me, I couldn't live without it.
So just from the
formal perspective as well and yeah that was that was pretty much my my research I've done this week
wow well Leah thank you so much you're like spectacular and your expertise is top notch
um this is over my head so I don't have have, I mean, I'm so curious, like, yeah, to hear like between
Ashley and you, like, you guys, I don't know how I'm gonna follow that up. That was like top notch.
You know, right? No, but we're gonna we're gonna go there. We're getting into your story and your
experience in just a second. So I do see there's one hand. So Joshua, if you want to,
I'm sure it sounds like you have a comment or a question for Leah.
Yeah, sure. I forgot we had, I didn't realize we had two other people, two people that might be
speaking on it, but I am, yeah, I got a quick question I could throw out there for Leah and
then Ashley, if she wants to give her thoughts on it as well, it'd be super helpful.
I'm entering a stage speaking of,
by the way, congratulations, Angela, with the Florida move.
I'm really proud of you as a Southerner at heart myself.
And speaking of that,
I'm going through one of those things
like you talked about earlier,
where I'm making a big change.
And in the process, I'm also redoing
how I streamline my finances, you might say.
I'm consulting with a friend regarding entering some investing opportunities when it comes to
looking at crypto, Bitcoin, things like that. And I'm entering it very slowly. I don't know a lot
about this. I'm not from it at all. And it's been a very hands-off thing to me. I just kind of figured, oh, years down the
road, maybe I'll see how it turns out. But I have finally come across somebody that I do trust
in that world personally, who I feel like can help me when they say, hey, this is good,
or that's good, or that bad, or whatever. I'm going to try it out. So just as I look into all
this recently, this has all been this week, actually. So how timely, uh, I'd love to hear if there's any suggestions from those of you deep in it who have been in this for a while. Uh, what, what, what would be your outlook for a newbie wanting to enter into this, uh, for platforms they could use to easily have the most control themselves.
have the most control themselves i like control uh as much as i can get especially with money
right who doesn't um like you know i hear about like that robin hood thing right but it had that
scandal a while back so for people like me brand new some things just feel like there's such a bad
taste there that it leaves us kind of scared like what what can i really touch without getting burned
but i understand there's some amount of inherent risk so just what are y'all's thoughts there if you don't mind and have a chance to work that in um yeah i can help you with this
so are you looking into investing in crypto or generally investing
for the platform so i was going to do general investing with the purpose of purchasing bitcoin
at some point and then increasing that so i do believe that the best platforms in the u.s
that you can use and i trust them is kraken and point base um those two and then and if you own
so so control like you can sell it by bitcoin on those but they will have them stored if you want
to have bitcoin like in your session you need to put it on external hard drive.
Ledger is called.
It's a little bit of techie work, but you can figure it out.
So you buy the Bitcoin and you transfer it on this external stick called Ledger,
and you're going to have it literally physically in your hands.
So that way nobody can steal it from those,
from Kraken or from Coinbase, right?
So you're going to have the Bitcoin.
The downside there is, God forbid, you lose this stick.
You are done, like your Bitcoin is gone.
So it depends on your personality,
what kind of human you are.
If you're in one place, if you're moving around,
if you're organized, if you're disorganized,
you have to know yourself and decide based on that. Like I personally could not have this stick
because I'm traveling all the time and moving around. Like I just would be paranoid that I'm
going to lose it. For me, it wouldn't work. But I do believe that Coinbase and Kraken have really
good security. And you also have to definitely have a password that no other place is using.
So you don't want to have a password for everything.
You have to be very strict with that.
Make sure that you really save those things.
But those two, I think, are pretty good, though, for crypto.
And when it comes to investing, I mean, I don't use Robinhood.
I know it's a favorite on Fintwit.
I don't because I love to trade futures.
I love to trade options.
I love to trade on different exchanges.
I'm a pretty sophisticated trader and investor.
And Robinhood is extremely limited.
Like, for example, I was telling everyone,
and I'm not supposed to give financial advice,
but I was sharing with everyone and buying funny in May,
early this year.
And we made insane money on this stock.
But for example, you can't buy it on Robinhood.
And there are so many limitations.
It's very basic.
So I do not like that platform.
I really do think we have other options in the US that you can do.
The most sophisticated and safest platform, I think, is interactive brokers, but it's pretty complex to use. For basics, you are
pretty good with Schwab or think or swim. E-Trade is also nice, but Schwab, I
think it would be pretty, pretty good using. They have great platform for
investing for trading for all of that.
Yeah, that's fantastic. This is I'm so glad this is recorded. I will be
listening back to every bit of
that writing it all down as soon as i am out of the car later and this is over thank you so much
angela thank you this was perfect you're welcome joshua you're the sweetest um i appreciate you so
much and thank you leah so much guys i mean leah is a wealth of knowledge. So excited to have her tonight because I know you're not always available to do these segments.
So I really am so excited that you are here tonight.
Please subscribe.
Please, please, please subscribe to Leah and all the amazing, honestly, amazing folks in the room.
Thank you, darling.
Thank you for having me.
I'm happy I have time to be here.
Actually, it's crazy because you're one of the only people in the room that I've met in person.
Like, that's what's crazy, right?
Sometimes, like, I don't know, I get so excited for these, like, talks.
Like, we're going to be doing meetups.
But it's so crazy because I actually have met you in person several times.
Yeah.
We did.
It was so fun.
It's a cool thing.
It's so fun. Like, it's so lovely guys it's so
lovely to like actually meet up face to face in person um with this group so i'm i'm excited to
in the next few months like you know meet up with more of you and do face to face stuff but
leah's awesome so yeah please show her all the love yes Shane well first let me just you know piggyback on that and say I'm jealous of Leah and Leon and you know
um I don't know who's on the other side of the NAG let me just say NAG and um I would never make
the mistake Alpha made have the opportunity to meet up with Angela and not follow through. I mean, this alpha Fox guy, but I want to be petty just real quick before we go to
Ashley's interview, Joshua, I want to steer you away from Robinhood for a different reason.
Go research this yourself, but Robinhood does this like really scandalous thing where if a um let's say let's pick on dogecoin if dogecoin's plummeting
and you try to sell it's not going to put that order through it's going to preference its own
holdings first and basically just screw you over um so by the time it sells your coins yeah yeah
it's not going to sell until it's back on an upswing
which you wouldn't want it to sell at that point right so don't mess with robin hood they screw
you over ashley might have more information on this than me i just remember enough to know that
that happened to me last cycle is robin hood prevented me from selling like when it went to like peak.
And that was like I have not used Robinhood since.
And it's actually in their terms of service.
I can't remember how it's written.
Just look it up.
Basically, if they're holding the same coin you're holding and you put in your order through, you know, first they'll sell their
own holdings before they ever dump yours. So go ahead, Jay. Well, I was just going to say a much
safer option, a much more fair option for a beginner investor would be like crypto.com or
like Kraken or something like that. Those are, those are way better than Robinhood. Robinhood is really like...
It's hard to win at Robinhood
because they're going to win always.
It's not a good platform if you want to sell it quickly.
But if you hold, it's not that bad.
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
Just remember, not your your keys not your crypto yeah and crypto like platforms like crypto.com like
you can do it much faster you can trade up for a stable coin um when you're taking a profit and
it's it's pretty instantaneous and uh you can protect your assets
can i just say real quick again angela, if you don't mind, like guys,
this is 20, 25, 26 minutes in, and it's already like loaded down with some awesome info. That's
really, really, really real tangible stuff. I can go really do something with. This is what we come
for. Thank you so much. Stuff like that. And for those listening, like, don't forget, this is why
you need to repost the space because people should hear really good info when it's available. And it's totally free right now. So
anyway, love you guys. This is great. No, you're so sweet, Joshua. You're so like, and your timing
is impeccable because I was like, it's time for a pill push. Like it's time for a, and you just
like came in here and you did it. So like essentially, yeah, it would be great. We're going to transition into our interview with Ashley.
Guys, please, please, please.
I don't think we have any of our hype.
I mean, there's a lot of hype people in here.
So I'm not taking that away from any of you.
Like you're all hype people and you're all here and we appreciate every single one of you.
But yeah, if you guys wouldn't mind reposting the space, pushing the
pill, we super appreciate it. We want to get as many folks as possible up in here and to talk to
Ashley and with all of this amazing information. We do literally have a wealth of knowledge in here
and we're so excited. So please, if yeah, if you haven't already repost the space, we would really appreciate it.
We look forward to these Sunday evening conversations so much.
You know, the whole purpose has been, like, getting to know people better.
And, like, you know, interviewing different people from all different backgrounds, all different perspectives, like all different walks of life,
political, whatever, views. And, you know, trying to find that common ground and, you know,
getting back to humanity and connecting with each other and telling stories and relating to each other and bridging gaps and common sense, common ground. Yeah, all of that. So Ashley, we're so excited. Thank you
so much for being here tonight, girl. I appreciate you. I love, there's a lot of what you do that I
connect with. I love your like positivity and you're like so fun. And I really, you know, I really relate to and enjoy your, you know, like, like I said, positivity and fun.
But like the Titty Taco Tuesdays and like titties and tacos and all of that.
And like, I mean, I just did a whole like, you know, boob bag like post.
I don't know if you saw it.
But so we can talk about all that kind of stuff.
But I love that. I love, you if you saw it, but so we can talk about all that kind of stuff. But I
love that. I love, you know, the fun and the positivity. That's very much like my level and
like, you know, what I also is important to me. So but let's start. And there's obviously a lot
of directions we can go. And guys, as you have questions, please raise your hand and we'll try
to bring as many folks as possible
up to talk with Ashley or ask questions or things like that.
But Ashley, just could you just like kind of start?
We love to just kind of get to know people.
So anything about like your background, where you're from, your story and sort of how you
even got into social media maybe is a good starting point
if you're cool with that.
Yeah, I'm pretty much an open book, honestly, and thanks for having me.
I obviously been following you for forever, and it's nice to actually have like a real
conversation with you because I feel like we just talk in passing. But I literally,
I got into social media in like the weirdest way because I was kind of more anti-social media. I
was like the person that only have like a Facebook and kind of like casually use it. And then I kind
of got into Twitter because of like COVID that really got me on there.
I feel like that's where everybody got into social media more than ever is through COVID.
And then in 2021, I feel like that's when I really like started doing stuff like crypto related.
And that's when I started like actually taking it a little bit
more seriously because before I was just kind of playing around with it, just randomly arguing
with people. I think that's like everybody's favorite thing to do online is like jab at each
other. But I've never really been like the aggressive arguer, more like just funny, silly little points.
But so I started just kind of like doing more casual stuff like that, just kind of like shitposting.
And what really got everything going for me is an interaction from Elon.
I think anybody who's had an interaction from Elon knows,
like, I made a meme about him one time.
Like, it was back in 2021.
I had already, I maybe had like 5,000 followers.
I was like making jokes.
I have a whole backstory on that,
which is basically like I shit posted my way into crypto um but elon
responded to a tweet of mine it was like back in the day when he was talking about jp morgan
leaving a review like a one-star yelp review on a jp morgan um because of something I can't remember what they were arguing about.
But I posted a picture of him with a Karen wig and just quote quoted the exact thing that he said.
And then he responded, and I will talk to their manager.
And my account went from like 5000 followers to like 30,000 plus overnight.
like 30,000 plus overnight. It was crazy. I had like people writing about me in news articles.
It was crazy.
I had like family members calling like friends like, oh my God, you know. So that was really
crazy. And that was kind of like my first, you know, moment where I was like, okay, well,
maybe this Twitter thing isn't so crazy.
And I wasn't even full time on Twitter. I was actually working as a business analyst. That was
like what I did before doing crypto is like I did real estate and business analysis for a software company. So basically through what I did with crypto, which basically like,
as Angela said earlier, I did a lot of like titty joke tweets. Like that was like my thing
when I first got on here is I made a lot of boob jokes. But, you know, that was just like, a lot of it was for, um, for actually a collection,
an NFT collection that I made, um, called Crypto Titties.
And it was inspired by, um, one of my family friends who passed away from breast cancer,
unfortunately.
Um, but she was somebody that was very close to me,
just big inspiration. She had cancer 13 times, around 13 times, and it kept coming back.
And every time I saw her, she was just the most positive person ever. Literally, nobody more positive than her, just constant, you know.
And so I made crypto titties, one, because of her, and two, because I don't know.
If you're a female on Twitter, you probably have this happen, especially maybe, Leah, you know more probably because you're in crypto too.
But you get a lot of DMs of men asking to see your boobs um happens a lot especially when you absolutely and i get actually more feet oh that's funny see i i got a lot of like show me
your boobs show me your boobs and so like that that's kind of where the titty jokes came from.
And they kind of, like, got away from me.
I kind of just, like, oh, man, I just was really going crazy for a couple years.
I don't do it as often now.
But, yeah, with the NFT collection, it was really cool because of a community member, I ended up, and this was
a little bit like during and after the Elon thing. With the collection, one of my community members
was like, hey, why don't you donate a portion of it to breast cancer research? And I was like,
oh my gosh, that's actually a really cool idea. And I didn't really expect the collection to take off. But it ended up taking off pretty big. I made about
250 NFTs and they sold from anywhere from 0.2 ETH to 1 ETH, you know, anywhere between. I let
kind of people choose what they paid. I didn't really
have like a mint price. A lot of people would contact me, like DM me and ask me for one.
So that was pretty cool is back when ETH was like actually doing really well, like at 4k.
So it was, it was pretty crazy. I got to donate a lot of money to the American Cancer Society.
And that was another really pivotal moment for me because, one, I got to quit my job because of it, which was really cool.
That was probably the biggest life change because I kind of took a big risk because, one, I was trading a lot into I had, you know, done the NFT collection. And,
you know, I was featured on Bloomberg for the NFT collection, because I was able to raise a pretty
significant amount of money for breast cancer research. So they interviewed me for that.
And then once I quit my job, I actually had the American Cancer Society reach out to me because
they had never received that much in crypto donations in that area and they were like hey
we'd love to meet with you and have lunch and let's talk about you know having more of you know
perspective on crypto because at the time, they didn't really
know anything about crypto. They had just kind of activated with the giving block, which if for
those of you that are in crypto that don't know what the giving block is, it's a really great
crypto related website that allows you to donate to your charity of choice through crypto.
So in donating in crypto is actually better because it's better not only just because
the organizations tend to get more of it, but it's actually a better tax break for you as well.
So that's something, you know, just real quick to show.
you know, just real quick to shill. But basically through that, it created such a positive,
like impact on my account, I started really growing. I started working with the American
Cancer Society, I started doing a lot of fun things in crypto. So that was like my big, like what, how I first started. It was kind of a crazy
first start. So I'll, I'll pause real quick in case anybody has any questions. Cause I just
kind of threw a whole lot at you. Girl, I'm like, what a whirlwindwind like that was like a action-packed like you just gave yeah like you've
done so much like you've accomplished so much it's really mind-blowing and I mean how cool like how
inspiring like honestly like it's so cool and I just I think it gives people like myself I'm gonna
speak for myself, so much
inspiration to just like do your thing and like be you and like follow the path and like all these
things that just, I don't know, it's so cool. And I mean, it's, it's so amazing. So I think it's
really, really cool. You've just sort of like followed your heart and different opportunities
come up and you, you know, you do them. And so I think
it's amazing and it's super inspiring. And so I hope that this is like, you know, the, the fuel
that other people might need to, yeah, I don't know, like how, what is it about you, like your
personality that I guess, I feel like sometimes people get held back?
And, you know, like I meant from a mental health perspective, right?
Like there's just a lot of like anxiety and things that get in the way where people are like, oh, I don't know.
And like caution, it feels like you're like a go getter.
You're like, let's do it.
I don't know.
Is there like, I guess what could you tell us like a little bit about your personality or strengths or like how you've sort of been able to just like make this all happen?
I say is that it comes from like, I had the craziest childhood, like my last name growing
up was Wiener. And as a girl, that is like the worst thing ever. Just so you know, it's literally
the worst. I got bullied pretty much every single day in school, in like grade school, middle school, high school. And by high school,
I had kind of already heard the jokes already. So then I started making my own jokes about myself.
And it kind of like took back my power. And instead of like, letting people bully me so much,
I was like, you know what, like, I can make much funnier jokes about
my last name than they can. Like, they literally say the same five jokes all the time. Like,
I can go crazier. And I started like, just kind of using that notoriety, because like,
when you have the only last name, like literally, I was the only girl in the state of Texas with the last name Wiener.
So literally everybody like would only know me by that. And like, I just kind of used that to
get me, you know, where I wanted to go. Like in high school, I was in journalism and, you know,
I would be writing articles and they would immediately recognize my name.
And that got me really far in high school.
So I kind of used like the craziness of everybody around me to my advantage.
And I think that that, you know, gave me such a big advantage growing up just because like I'm sure all of you know who built an account on here
whether it's big or small that there are some really fucked up people online as good as social
media can be it can be really assessable of people that are like very negative and that's one of the
reasons why I'm so positive on my platform
because like every now and then I'll like, I'll get a little mad and like post something about
somebody like, and then I usually will delete it because like, you know, sometimes I get a little
mad. But for the most part, I'm really positive because I feel like this platform can be such a,
you know, just accessible. It can be unless you don't let it be. And a lot of you, you know, just accessible. It can be, unless you don't let it be. And a lot of you,
you know, I'm sure don't let it be. Like, if you have a really positive platform,
I think that sometimes it can be harder to grow versus some of the negativity that you see. Like,
it can be easier to grow if you, like, people around you but in order to succeed truly succeed I think you have to be positive and you have to be resilient
against the people that try to tear you down because the number one thing is in life is that
you have to believe in yourself and you have to be on your own shit and if you listen to the people
are like around you telling you no then you will never say yes to yourself. Wow. Um, no, it's, it's so amazing.
Like, yeah, everything that you said is just like, so, so resilient and such a thing that is like,
really difficult for us, like, really difficult for us as human beings to do.
Like all this is like the bullying
and like the fact that you like took it back
and like, I mean, these are like, yeah,
I mean, it's really incredible.
And I'm really happy, again,
like I wasn't planning on asking that question,
but I'm glad that I did
because it opened up this whole world of like getting to know you know this whole side of you
and I think it's just really cool and I think it's so again inspiring like I just feel like
everything about you so inspiring and like so much that we can like learn from and they're not skills and things that are easy for people to do.
Like these are like very human like struggles, like the stuff that we really struggle with
and really like, you know, cause people a lot of, a lot of trouble.
So yeah.
So go ahead.
Yeah, Shane, go ahead.
So, you know, I have to ask one question.
Other than, you know, the wiener jokes, what's the most difficult thing that you feel like
positivity has helped you overcome?
You don't have to share anything too personal.
But if you look at your life, look at something that you use positivity to overcome, what
would you say the most difficult thing is that you
overcame with positivity? Man, that is a great question, Shane, actually. Y'all have amazing
questions tonight. I would say, and you know, I'm kind of an open book, like I said earlier,
so I don't mind sharing like personal stuff because I usually do anyway. But I have bipolar disorder. And that is,
you know, I'm sure if anyone has it or knows anyone that has it, it can be really frustrating
to deal with, especially like when you're just trying to have like a normal chill day. And like,
everybody has depressing moments in their life. But when you have bipolar disorder, it can really be like very aggressive.
Like some people have it worse than others.
And growing up with bipolar disorder, that really like you have to fight a lot of personal demons.
And I think that's really what helped me the most is like dealing
with that. And even now, like, it's like a personal struggle. So I feel like, I feel like
all the things that tend to make people like unlucky in life, like if you use those unlucky
things to make yourself lucky, like I think that's where it really comes from is like using your weaknesses as strengths because like we all have things wrong with this.
I'm sure like 50% of the people in this space probably have some mental health struggle that they're dealing with or, you know, like Angela, you're going through a move right now.
You know, like Angela, you're going through a move right now, and that is actually one of the top 10 most traumatic things to happen in your life is each time you move, there's a little bit of trauma that comes with it because you're uplifting your home, you're uplifting your life, you're leaving your friends, your family, the life that you built.
And you use those personal situations, you use your mental health struggles, you use all those things to build yourself up instead of constantly like, because it becomes a cycle if you keep telling yourself like you're this and that and this and that.
It can be, it can really tear you down. But like, when I say positive affirmations have been so helpful to me, like whenever you
really legitimately look at yourself and you're like, hey, like, I can do this. Why not me? Why
not me? Out of everybody else in the world, I've got the drive. I've got the attitude. I've got
the skills. Like, why not me? If you ask yourself that every day and you boost yourself up, nobody else can tear you down.
You know, thanks for sharing that.
I have a friend of mine.
And, you know, well, I guess two friends.
They're married.
My friend, I don't want to give the name.
I'll give the name of one individual in the couple.
So one of my lifelong friends married somebody that has
bipolar disorder and she's like a little sister to me. And anytime she goes through a manic face,
he has her call me and we talk. So you're saying when you go through those tough times,
those depressing times that you consciously use positivity to kind of carry you through it? Is that what I'm getting
from you? Yeah, in my opinion, like talking to people does help. It really does. But when you're
bipolar, it can feel like lonely, like much lonelier, even when you're speaking to someone,
because if you're speaking to someone that doesn't have it, they can't really understand.
You know, like sometimes bipolar disorder can be
so bad in your lows that you legitimately do not want to be here anymore. And if you don't know how
to self-cope, then it will always be problematic for you because self-coping is like not as taught
to us. There's nothing, obviously therapy is like one of the best things you can do for yourself,
counseling, talking with friends, but learning how to self-cope is like the most important skill to
have. Thank you for sharing that. I'll remember this the next time I talk to her.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is, I really appreciate you sharing. I know it's not easy to talk about personal things like this. So I really appreciate it. And I think, again, like coming from a mental health perspective, like being a, I'm a therapist. So, you know, I'm always fighting the stigma.
I'm always fighting the stigma.
And so it's so important to have these conversations and hear about people's experiences because the more you talk about it, you never know who you're touching and who can relate.
And it's so helpful to know because I think people, and you can probably relate to this, feel very alone.
You feel like you're the only one going through it at the time. Like
it's just you're like, it's just you, like what's wrong with me, like all of that kind of stuff. So
again, Ashley, like, you know, I know it's not easy to talk about this stuff and I really do
appreciate you sharing it in this space because I think there's so many people that can benefit from hearing it. I guess my next question is just like,
what has sort of helped you, you know, through that? Like, do you have a good support system?
Like, what is sort of like, you know, or like coping skills or, you know, or like, how is,
do you have a good support system? Because I feel like
that's so important, um, in dealing with all of this. I, I am so lucky to have the best support
system. Like my husband, we've been together since 2012, um, all time best support system,
um, marrying your best friend is the office. So FYI, if you didn't already know that.
So that, I've been extremely lucky.
He has been some of the most, one of the most helpful people in my life that have got me through pretty much everything.
I've got my best friends, the bond broker, some of you may, may or may not know
her.
Um, but she has been like very instrumental in my life as well.
You know, I'm pretty lucky to have family that I can still talk to.
Um, you know, so, so that has been like having a big support system is, is just some, one
of the most important things you can have
and with my self-cope what I tend to do is I tell everybody take a mental health day at least one
day a week and I know that for some people that may be a lot to them because some people are like
grinding 24-7 but you need one day where you just can do whatever the hell
you want to do, whether you want to eat dessert all day or play your favorite video game or just
sit on the couch and watch 12 hours of, you know, Love Island or whatever, you know, whatever you
want to do for the entire day, you need it. And just to be very selfish to yourself, because
I mean, not enough people do that. Not enough people take care of themselves,
do like mental check-in. A lot of people are like, oh, that, you know, I'm not a weak person.
I don't need to take care of my mental health. You do. Whether you believe you do or not,
you absolutely do. And even if you don't take the
full day, maybe even half a day, just take some time once a week to do something just for you,
where you ignore everybody else and do a, you know, like do a, do me time. Like that is so
rare nowadays. Like some people don't even know what their hobbies are, you know?
And I mean, that's the craziest thing to me.
So take care of yourself because you literally are only here once.
I know like YOLO is like so like 2010s, but like literally, you know, we could die tomorrow.
Literally, you know, we could die tomorrow.
Like if you don't know like what you like in life, if you can't have a mental check in with yourself, like what are you doing?
Like you need that.
You absolutely need that.
Absolutely.
Yeah, sorry.
No, you're good. what she just said, because I have someone in my life that I've known for a long time in the last
month that really is one of the most stable people I've known my entire life. And I know
it's subjective, but no, this is really one of the most stable people I've known my entire life.
They've always been really good about being supportive of others. And a few weeks
ago, they had a mental break. Now, granted, it was on the back end of a surgery. They were put
on some pain medications that, you know, caused the issue. There was like a clash of two meds that
they were put on. But to Ashley's point, this is an individual that never took a break for
themselves.
They were always taking care of their kids and taking care of their family members and their friends,
working around the clock and maybe sleeping four hours a day, and it just broke them. So you have to, as she put it, take that mental health day.
And ironically, there's a number of world religions that would call it a Sabbath, right? I mean, just pick health day. And ironically, there's a number of world religions
that would call it a Sabbath, right?
I mean, just pick a day.
It takes an entire day off.
Supposedly, there's a type of squirrel
that actually only gathers nuts six days a week.
Google that.
It's pretty cool.
So, hey, we're all little nuts.
I'm just going to leave it there.
I saw Jay, you had your hand up.
Well, she just hit on so many different things. And I was really like, like, you know,
as somebody who struggled myself, and a lot of veterans do, when I, when I retired from the army,
I really had to teach myself how to enjoy life again. And that was one of the one of the things
that really hit home, what you were talking about.
And the other piece of that is I have found so much positivity in a lot of these crypto
communities, like people that are really supportive, people that really want others to win
around them. And I've like, I honestly, like I just go into these spaces and stuff like that. And like, there's like so much positivity and it's almost drawn me in.
Like, I'm more into crypto because of like the people that are there, the people that
want to see others succeed, the people that like in, you know, a lot of these smaller
coins, the meme coins and stuff like that, they're really driven by the communities that are supporting them. And so, you know, it's just really, it's kind of a, it's a really great,
it's really a wild time, honestly. It's like, you know, it's really driven by social media
and, you know, innovators and people like surrounding themselves with positive people.
It's kind of wild.
You know, I view Bitcoin as like a long term investment, more like a stock to me.
Like it's not it's not very useful.
But in terms of like you can make money off it and stuff like that.
But like in terms of the usefulness, I view some of these smaller coins as more of like
the useful thing that really the backbone of the crypto
community. But then, you know, drawing like this, this positivity piece, it's really a wild
phenomenon. And, you know, maybe you can speak a little bit to this, maybe you can tell us about
Fartcoin. What are some of the, you know, some of the communities that you kind of look at and
you kind of like, you know, what's your feedback on
some of those things that you see out there? And I love what you said about crypto, because there's
so much about crypto that I love. And that is like the community. And also, by the way,
thank you so much for serving our country that I've always got to say it when I hear it. My dad is a veteran.
Have so much respect.
So, but yeah, I'd say, man, fart coin.
I love, I love fart coin.
You know, that, that is a huge community.
Just, it's just silliness.
It's just silliness.
I mean, I grew up with my dad and And obviously, my dad loves fart jokes. So
I loved fart jokes. And that's the simplicity of fart coin. There's nothing really more than that.
And that's kind of the purity of it. And that's, that's one thing. One thing that I love about it.
I'm a part of so many different communities that I love. I've been in,
you know, obviously a big part of the Dogecoin community. That was the very first community
that I ever joined in crypto. Absolutely a ton of love. Obviously Bitcoin, just classic.
One coin that I recently got into that I became a brain ambassador for was Avalanche.
And I went to their conference recently.
The Avalanche, oh my goodness, my brain is toast today.
The Summit in London, I think was a month ago or so.
Goodness, I don't even know what day it is anymore.
But yeah, it's some of the nicest people that I ever met in my life.
And the great thing that, you know, I think Angela brought it up earlier was, you know, meeting people in real life.
You know, I met people there. I met people at the Bitcoin Vegas conference.
I met people there. I met people at the Bitcoin Vegas conference. There's an event that I go to, RareEvo down there that I go to every year that I really love. And I get to connect with all those people that I speak to online all day from every community, whether it be AVAX or Solana or Ethereum or, you know, Parkcoin, Maxis, or other smaller projects.
And, you know, it's just magical.
It's magical, you know.
Like, there's so much of a – there's such a big difference between normal people and crypto people
because crypto people are wired so differently,
and you won't know how it works until you're actually in crypto people because crypto people are wired so differently and you won't know how it works until you're actually in crypto because your brain is just like,
you can never go back. Like once you go crypto, you can never go back. You really, really can't.
We're all like super hungry people and we're all online 24 seven and we're all just like
making jokes. And, you know, some of us are buying a bunch of
stupid stuff. I do that all the time. Or there's some of us that are more like Leah and actually
invest responsibly. But we're all really driven by financial freedom, which I think everybody in
this space can, you know, get behind decentralization. Nobody likes government and their money.
And that unites everybody, whether you're a shit coiner or a serious investor.
We all believe in freedom, you know, keeping the theme of July 4th this weekend.
You know, freedom is what makes us want to come here on X2.
Freedom of speech, freedom of, you know, what's in your wallet, all of that. And that's the beautiful thing about crypto may be I'd say it's more overwhelmingly positive because we we just have a lot of fun um it's like uh back whenever I was you know 2000
early 2000s when I was in like gamer chats um playing like Halo or Call of Duty and like it
was that that level of degeneracy we're all just having fun and being
crazy and kind of reminds me of that era um but it's just like it's so different because like we
all believe in financial literacy and freedom. Well Ashley thank you so much. So yeah, I, I mean, I love this whole, like, you know,
I didn't know it was going to go into mental health route, obviously, but I think it's so
cool to hear people's experiences. And I think that so many of us can relate because it's just
such a human thing. Like life is a lot. We all go through a lot. And, you know, we're all dealing with stuff and we don't often
talk about it. So it's so great and refreshing to put it out there and have the conversations
because a lot of people aren't. Like we've been saying, people keep it private or it's like,
oh, we don't talk about these things. They're scared to be vulnerable, I think.
Yeah. Yeah. And also it's just the stigma around it too it's like you know you should be able to
deal with this and like you're crazy if you you know need to whatever but it's so I just think
it really normalizes it for all of us that you know like we're not alone and we're not crazy
and we all go through stuff and so it's just so nice to hear people's journeys and experiences and also, like, what's helpful for them.
And, like, because you have accomplished so much.
Like, you know, you would, like, people would never know that you were dealing with, like, mental health struggles.
You know, like, I feel like you've, I don't know, everything you've talked about, it's like, right, the first couple minutes was like, oh my gosh, what a whirlwind, this girl's accomplished so much,
and you're so positive, and like, it's cool to also know, like, no, no, no, like, I have my own
struggles that I'm fighting, and, you know, and this is how I'm doing it, because, you know,
anyway, it's very cool and very very real and i really appreciate it so much
um so i see steven has a hand i think wealthy had a hand and wealthy if you're available
would you like to do a little pill push for us oh yeah and then ask your question or comment
we can definitely do that i just want to say first uh all about far coin yeah far coin is
definitely where it's at guys i spot I spotted another bag of that shit yesterday.
Farcoin all the way.
I am all in on that.
I'm telling you right now, guys, that is a fucking winner right there.
So Farcoin, there you go.
It's stupid as hell, but I'm telling you, I am all in on that.
But if everyone, if you want to look down at the purple pill, let's like repost the space and get it all over.
X, guys, I'm back here.
I'm doing this again. And everyone's probably missed me.
They probably missed.
Well,
she doing this readout here right now.
They're probably like,
where the fuck did their guy go?
I'm back here right now.
I'm here today.
So anyways,
go to Angela's page and you're going to like her and like the follows and all that stuff.
Subscribe to her.
And then also subscribe to me after.
So you're going to subscribe to her first and then me right after and only me and then just us.
So, yeah, then everyone else, I don't know what you want to do with them.
Anyways, so go follow Angela and then don't follow Shane, but follow Leah and then follow me.
So, guys, that's it.
Go to the Purple Pill.
Let's get it out there.
Repost it.
Thanks, Welsy.
So you had your question out, your comment.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fartcoin, that's where it's at.'s go let's go okay let's go yeah fart coin to the moon let's go fuck you
okay um go ahead steven i see your hand yeah hi greetings thank you so much angela
of course hi actually hi hey so me and the fellas, we we pulled our money together.
You know, we we managed to scrape together about eight bucks as long as no one uses the vending machine.
What I'd like to know is how do we now what are our next steps to become crypto traders and NFT enthusiasts?
crypto traders and NFT enthusiasts.
What's our first step with this bag of coin?
What are we looking for?
What should we be doing?
What are the next steps for us and anyone in the room
that's interested in stepping into cryptocurrency or NFTs?
Honestly, I would say you need to do some research like a lot of research
like look into um i mean just look into the history of cryptocurrency look into bitcoin
very first thing bitcoin is the daddy of all cryptocurrency it is you know the it is god's chosen currency um so that is something you should
know about first before you ever download any wallet um i know that a lot of people have different
choices and wallets there's great exchanges like you know leah mentioned coinbase and kraken
You mentioned Coinbase and Kraken.
I kind of prefer Kraken, to be honest, because they have more, like, user privacy, in my opinion.
But Coinbase is pretty easy.
Like, if you're looking to, you know, like, buy very easily and have it available pretty easily, I think they have a pretty good system there.
Gosh, $8, man.
I know you have more than $8, Stephen.
But, yeah, I say I see people, like, I gamble a lot.
I gamble, like, every single day.
I buy a bunch of shit coins.
But I really recommend people do not do that when they first get into crypto
because you will lose literally all that
you have because it is it is literally an addiction and when I say that like I'm
being so for real right now download a wallet maybe like phantom wallet is my
personal favorite like outside of an exchange that's the one most commonly
used by like a ton of people or Trust Wallet or MetaMask.
Those three wallets are like the top three in my opinion. I'm sorry if anyone uses something
different or works with something different, but those are the ones that I use. And take some time
to like do some test transactions, you know, get to know several different cryptos.
Go on to Twitter.
Look on who to follow.
Who are people interacting with?
Start looking at like what people are talking about.
You know, keeping up with trends is like one of the best things you can do in crypto.
Keeping up with the conversation.
Most people get their, you know, best plays just by being active
and online and into the community. Obviously, you need to be careful of scams. That's the first
thing that you should do after, you know, like getting onto an exchange is looking into scams
and getting yourself a ledger because there are so many common scams, you know, with transaction signing and people
DMing you, asking you for like a meeting to get to know about crypto and then you click on it and
drains all your wallets. Obviously, big thing, do not invest more than you can lose because you can lose everything in literally a day. You can.
It can happen. It happened back in a couple years ago after the whole, you know, FTX thing.
Solana went from like $200 to like $8 and everybody like literally, you know, shat a chicken.
So, you know, like you can, yeah, just, just please be careful,
please dear God, be careful. Um, but yeah, do your research, do way more research than you should
before you ever buy anything. So if I, if I heard you properly for simplicity, we download Coinbase
to, to keep our investments hidden from our wives and girlfriends, and hopefully both.
It's cracking.
No, no, no.
I mean, that's an exchange.
To keep your money hidden is with Phantom.
It's a hot wallet, but you can still kind of hide your assets there.
still kind of hide your assets there um yeah it's like it's like uh but like a ledger like
leah said earlier that is where you lock down your money if you're not planning on moving it so if
you buy like a whole bitcoin and you're not planning on touching it for several years
then move it to your ledger which is the cold wallet. We could do like a whole course on this,
but just to keep it super simple,
Kraken and Coinbase are the exchanges
where you buy things like Bitcoin, Ethereum, USDC,
Phantom Wallet, Trust Wallet, and MetaMask
are like your hot wallets that you can sign transactions with
and buy from different you know, different, you know,
exchanges that are not crypto or Kraken and Coinbase. And then Ledger is where you keep
your money safe, like a safe box in the bank. Thank you so much, Ashley. Angela, Shane, Leah,
thank you. Thanks, Stephen. So speaking of courses, and since we have leah here i just wanted to throw it to leah
don't you sell courses on this no i don't sell courses at all sweetheart i just have discord
a private trading room where we trade we have a pretty sophisticated group of traders from all
over the world and i do free webinars every week for my members. So that's what I do.
We get on Zoom.
Today we had one.
We chat about everything from crypto to risk management,
trading, trade ideas, markets, and all that stuff.
We use a lot of build scanners,
custom build scanners and quant algorithms
that we build for the market. Yeah, so that's's what I do but the courses I don't have
right now but with the crypto honestly I love what Ashley said everything she said was amazing
and I really appreciate her honesty and when it comes to the crypto really the altcoins are super super scary to trade i was in that
rabbit hole in 2021 i honestly felt like i'm completely tired i was sitting in my like woman
cave all day long and i was just like trading altcoins and i have to say i made money but
honestly at some point in 2022 whatever altcoins i kept and i didn't sell they just went
to literally zero so i do not play with those that much sometimes i have like solana bitcoin
ethereum little bit of dodge and what else do i have i don't even know like a couple of more of
those but that's pretty much it um you know the more established ones i would say because otherwise
like you can play with the altcoins but it's i feel like it's so much uh babysitting you you
can just like buy them and let them you have to really like observe and and trade them i think
it's more like trading vehicles because otherwise i think 99 of those will go to zero the ones that
make it okay good luck you might be lucky and have those
if not and yeah goodbye your money so i'm more like more careful with this uh as i said i love
buying bitcoin and holding ethereum i'm also a little bit skeptical at this point i wonder what
ashley thinks actually about ethereum because i don't know i've been a little bit yeah i don't
know if i want to hold Ethereum any longer.
What do you think, Ashley, about that?
You said Ethereum?
Ethereum. ETH.
Oh, Ethereum.
Yeah, sorry. My accent is a little bit heavy sometimes.
No, you're fine. You probably said it the proper way
because I would just like call it ETH.
You know, I started out as more of an ETH person
and I don't want to say anything negative about ETH
because I have a lot of coins that are in ETH
but it's like not the most exciting you know crypto anymore
it used to be super exciting
because that's where a lot of the NFT activity was
back in the NFT boom
you know that I do miss A lot of the NFT activity was back in the NFT boom.
You know, that I do miss.
I have a lot of good memories with ETH. Like so many good memories of like shit coining and NFT trading and all of that.
That is like where my success came from.
So I always have a lot of love for ETH.
But it's just not the sexy coin anymore.
You know, nobody talks about ETH like they used to. I think it's still a sleeper. I think it's something that could still potentially
do really well because a lot of L1s, or I'm sorry, L2s are built off of it. A lot of things are built
off Ethereum, including popular chains that people are using that, you know, they say are better than Ethereum, which is kind of funny.
But, yeah, I'm just, you know, I think it's if you're looking for like a lot of money to be made very quickly, it's probably not something that you should hold.
quickly it's probably not something that you should hold um but if you're looking for something
that maybe you know be good tech down the road that that it has longevity it's definitely
something that keeps its value regularly yeah i'm also a term girl i started with that around
myself that was the first coin i ever owned i didn't have that ticker on my car and yeah you're
right we i mean i was trading most of the the coins that i was trading in 21 were on ethereum
chain i just think that the the fees were so high like it was absolutely insane to to be um
exchanging those coins on that chain so i think that kind of hurt ethereum a little bit but yeah i still i still have some
uh we'll see we'll see what happens it is it is not doing much you're right but we'll see and the
nfts also yeah that was also all running on the ethereum chain so well thank you for your um for
your opinion.
It's been nice to talk to you about all this.
It's nice to talk to somebody that's got a different perspective on crypto than I do because I feel like I'm surrounded by degenerates most of the time.
Oh, that's so cute.
Yeah, I was one of them.
Don't worry.
I just had to choose, you know, because I think people need to specialize on things
and they need to pick their bottles.
You can't be trading equities and trading options and trading futures and trading crypto.
So like, I just do not have that energy and I don't have that focus.
So I could choose I'm going to be equities trader or I'm going to trade crypto.
Like it was really hard for me to do both
because each asset trades differently.
So I'm like specializing on equities and option selling.
That's why I stopped trading crypto.
But yeah, if that's your thing,
I mean, you can make so much money.
I'm still in like some groups of friends
that are trading those shit coins all the time
and they're like making insane profits. And I'm nope i just can't handle it and i to be
honest with you also the volatility for me as far as i can go are like some stocks that are like
ten dollars and less that's kind of like the the micro cups or small cups that's like for me the
limit of volatility i can take but those those outcomes, they're like, what?
Like 100% on a day easily, some of them, if not more.
So that was kind of like beyond my, I just can't do it mentally.
So I stopped and I focus on other things.
But yeah, if you love it, why not?
I would like to comment on the serious girl boss energy going on right now in this space.
I love it.
It's such a girl boss energy.
And you guys are so inspirational.
And I love you.
This is amazing.
I'm loving every second of it.
I wanted to pivot Ashley I wanted to ask you about the kickboxing I mean
correct me if I'm wrong but a kickboxing match I think versus a friend that you did as a fundraiser
yeah it wasn't it wasn't a fundraiser but I fought my best friend uh through an MMA style match
through an MMA style match.
Oh my God, please, please tell us all about the experience
and the training and like, I need,
I would love to know more about the journey, the process.
So some people can't even believe that it happened.
Like, it's like probably the craziest thing
that I've ever done.
But my best friend that I actually mentioned earlier,
the blonde broker, she was who I fought last year in 2024. She called me randomly in April,
and she was like, hey, so would you ever consider fighting me?
And I was like, dude, that's crazy.
That's the craziest thing.
Like, why would I ever fight you?
Like, one, we're best friends, and two, I'm not a fighter.
Like, I just was totally against the idea.
And she convinced me through some kind of black magic that it was, like,
actually a really cool idea.
And honestly, what convinced me is that, the way that she said it is one,
that we wanted to keep each other accountable like health wise.
And two, when are we ever going to get a chance to do this ever again
and like get paid to fight each other, like to fight anybody really?
Like in a ring,
in a legit, like where we're professional fighters. And I was like, you know what,
fuck it. Like I'm crazy enough. Like I've never, I've never done it in my life. So I decided to go ahead and accept the challenge. And so I trained from April to September
to fight my best friends.
And my specialty was in Muay Thai.
And I trained, let's see, I ran three miles a day
every single day, which building up to that was terrible
because you have to build a gas tank.
I don't know if anybody has fought in this know, in this room. But yeah, basically,
in order to fight, you know, there's three two-minute rounds, usually, you know, mostly
two two-minute rounds. But that two minutes is forever. And it takes a lot of effort. Like,
even if you could run all day, like fighting another person takes so much physical and mental energy. Like it is really day to build up that tolerance, like that gas tank.
And then I would train for three hours at night in Muay Thai.
And I would do like different types of things, you know, with different people.
Like there would be, I would be sparring like 20 people almost every night.
And that was, you know, for about three to five times a week.
And towards the end, towards September, I probably was up to like five days a week.
So I was like, I was jacked. I was so jacked. Oh my gosh. I wish I was that jacked now, but, um, I was probably the, the best shape
that I've ever been in my life, even in my early twenties right now, I'm like 33 years old. So
like, I felt like at my peak physically, um, and our fight was in Singapore. Um, so September
Singapore, we were the top match of the night.
We were like the featured match of the evening.
Um, and it was probably like the coolest, the coolest experience ever.
And if anybody has the ability to make that happen, I highly recommend it because like
as painful as it was, cause there was a lot of bruises. There was lot of oh my gosh I I got punched in the nose like at least six or seven
times and one one time I almost broke my nose there was a large guy he was about like a foot
taller than me and he accidentally swung an elbow at my nose and busted it.
Literally, just my nose, just like blood was flowing out of it.
I could have sworn I broke my nose.
I was like, it's so over, broke my nose.
Didn't break my nose, thankfully, but it was kind of like crazy.
It just was crazy to say that some random person almost broke your nose right before the fight
so there was a lot of cool things that happened in between there I did train
Muay Thai in Thailand as well right before them which was pretty sweet also an experience that
everybody should have because the Muay Thai fighters there are are just just so just so different from the
Muay Thai fighters in the U.S. like they are they are just built different it's just it's fantastic
you know any kind of martial art is just I highly recommend even as just the workout or as a self
defense like learning martial, I think like everybody
should do once in their life. It's just, it's just awesome. Um, so fight night happens. Um,
I come out to my theme music and I will tell you, like, I've never felt more like a rock star in my
whole life than when I walked to my music and everybody's shouting my name and I'm
like, oh my God, like, this is what, you know, this is what celebrities feel like, you know,
on a much like smaller scale, of course, like, cause, you know, let's be real, you know, I'm not
like, I'm not like, you know, Angelina Jolie or something, but yeah, it's, it, it was probably the most amazing five minutes total fighting of
my life.
Unfortunately, I did not win, but I was within one point of winning.
They wanted a third match, but unfortunately, the venue had to shut down early, so the third
match didn't happen but um weirdly enough um after punching each other
in the face and other body parts multiple times me and my best friend actually got so much closer
and now we're like even way closer than we were before the fight um and apparently it's very common for fighters to bond over the act of fighting uh which is so
crazy to me I didn't know but like I talked to so many other fighters and we were all like just like
best friends after we all just like loved each other so much after so um I don't know it's
probably like the weirdest thing that ever agreed to my life and like the coolest thing. But like after
I went to Asia for like two months and like just had a blast just hanging around. So it was all of
it was just I would say last year was probably the best year of my life.
Wow. That's incredible. Another amazing thing. I just wanted to i feel like there's just so many
amazing things about you that i was like i had to ask about this i have weird weird parts of my
lore man like it almost feels like i'm making shit up at this point we gotta arrange a fight
between angela and ashley let's go yeah that's you, that actually that tracks that makes sense that that would come up.
Actually, yeah, man, you know, and then Ashley and I will just get so much closer.
Yeah, Ashley definitely has an advantage for sure.
Like, I'm athletic, but the most of like fighting, I've never fought anyone.
I do. I do love cardio kickboxing like
that's the extent of like my fighting experience is like I do love to do some kickboxing and so
when you were talking about how exhausting it is to fight someone I was like yes because
cardio kickboxing is exhausting like so throwing punches know, just in the air, like, is already, like, to me,
like, it's a full body workout when you do kickboxing of any kind or boxing or whatever.
So, gosh, when there's a person involved and it's all, I can't even, yeah.
So I was thinking about that.
Incredible.
Like, incredible.
But what another amazing, like, you know, thing, like, experience to have and be like, yeah, I did this thing.
It was super hard.
It was super challenging.
And, like, I, yeah.
But I did it.
It's super cool, right?
Like you said, it feels like, was this a part of my life?
Like, I actually did these things?
Like, it's incredible.
So that's amazing.
Also super inspiring.
Okay, sorry.
So I totally missed Chavez's hand earlier.
I'm so sorry, Chavez.
But would you like to ask your question, comment now? It kind of
blended in with your picture, and I think I missed it, so I'm sorry about that. No, no, it's fine.
It's totally fine. This is all fascinating to me. I'll be in here for a handful of minutes longer,
but first and foremost, guys, share out the space. Show some love to the host, co-host,
and any speakers that resonate with you. Turn on those alerts and noties as the kids are saying right the kids are saying that
turn on your noties i'm showing my age shut up all right there uh you know real quickly i'll tell
you i'm i'm randomly reminded as far as ashley's story with the uh fighting and whatnot i'm
randomly reminded of the matrix reloaded when Sarah finds Neo. And, uh,
I mean,
that whole scene is them fighting.
I love that.
Yeah.
And he's,
you know,
exactly what I'm talking about,
Ashley.
Right.
And it's just like,
you don't understand.
You do not fully,
truly know somebody until you fight them.
And Keanu Reeves Neo character is like,
well,
you could have just asked.
He's like,
So I just thought that was interesting.
but anyway, so I have, okay. I'll try to keep. So I just thought that was interesting. But anyway, so I
have, okay, I'll try to keep this short and sweet because there's a few things to unpack here,
but it's kind of like a two part, three part question with one simple comment. One of my
comments really is, this is just my experience. Full disclaimer, I'm not a crypto guru. I'm not
a Bitcoin guru. I'm definitely above average, but take this as you will.
For starters, I definitely think Coinbase is the easiest point of entry with the least amount of intimidation and most shallow learning curve, to be honest with you. that these greedy SOPs in power and government will never really relinquish any kind of control,
such as the New York Stock Exchange, stocks, and et cetera, et cetera.
That's my opening comment, and it kind of leads into my first question.
I'll just ask all these questions, and then we can clarify here a little bit.
My first question is this.
Do you think that the U government, FTC and the
Federal Reserve will ever actually switch to digital currency and crypto? And if so, what
would it take to build that infrastructure? Also, is it possible that our government is building a
sovereign wealth fund for our country strictly with cryptocurrencies and digital payments?
A lot of people don't know
what a sovereign wealth fund is. And then my last and final question is, why do you think all these
degenerates and delinquents in these digital spaces like streaming VTubers and influencers,
which is what I'm huge into, and all the like, are rug pulling and shafting their own customers,
if you will? It seems like Solana seems to be the DGEN's playground and currency of choice.
So I've kind of unpacked a lot of questions there.
I hope that's understood.
No, I love all the questions.
I'll try to remember all the questions.
I'm not very good at remembering things.
But I'll start with the first one because I think that one kind of leads to the others in a roundabout way.
I think that crypto, when it first, you know, some of the first three interactions that people had with crypto probably were with Silk Road.
You know, not the most savory of places.
A lot of black market stuff happening a lot of crime also a lot of positive things for decentralization but you know a lot of people in crypto come to
crypto because it is easier to get away with financial crimes and that is the unfortunate part
of crypto is that there is the the fortunate and unfortunate thing is that there's
decentralization to the point where you can kind of do anything. There's not a whole lot of
regulation going on. Obviously, there is some regulation, but it's not enough to stop people
from doing certain things. It's just the unfortunate fact about cryptocurrency and you just have to
educate yourself and the people around you. I think that, you know, like the amount of people
in crypto, there's not a ton of people that use crypto. So a lot of like celebrities and people
that are influential that have kind of like squeezed all the juice they can out of their non-crypto audience, they come to the crypto audience.
Because crypto people really want the majority of people around them to be involved in crypto.
And it becomes, you know, like that is truly like adoption.
Mass adoption is something that genuinely people in crypto wants to see.
So unfortunately, people use that against crypto people.
But people in crypto are a lot smarter now to that.
It doesn't happen as often, fortunately.
Unfortunately, now obviously it still happens, but I feel like it's a lot easier to know who's genuinely here to, like, be here and who is just trying to, like, take the money and run.
Now, obviously, it still happens.
realization. And this leads to the government involvement and whether there will be a government,
you know, currency of some sort or the government's involvement in crypto. Like as good as it is that
crypto is, you know, involved in government at some point, it kind of takes away the magic on
crypto because it's all about decentralization.
It's all about the government not having access to your funds.
Once the government starts running, you know, crypto itself, like they were talking about, for lack of a better term, a one world sort of currency like fiat-esque.
a one world sort of currency like fiat-esque. And that is something that I personally would
not want to see is like, it's good to have mass adoption for crypto to be used in really cool
ways to help certain things like real estate or, you know, like recently they passed, you know,
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, where you could use parts of your crypto to qualify for a mortgage.
A lot of people that are in crypto couldn't buy houses before.
And now they're probably going to be able to buy houses.
That's a great thing for crypto.
That's what crypto was supposed to be for.
Crypto is not for the government to make a cryptocurrency that they can use to, you know, kind of control the masses like they do
with the U.S. dollar. That's the whole reason crypto exists is to get away from that, you know,
sort of oligarchy or whatever. Because, you know, people have their opinions on the government,
whether they like it or not. But I don't think anybody in crypto wants
to see the government fully take over or fully be like entrenched in governing any part of crypto.
Like that is the scariest thing to people because then you go into the point where, yeah, it's good
to have certain protections in crypto and it would be nice, but also the whole
point of crypto is to be decentralized. And if the government is kind of mucking about
more into it, then it's not going to be decentralized and ultimately it will be
just like any other currency. Yeah, thank you for that response. I think you hit the nail right on the head, honestly. And I love that transparency and candor because it's just such an animal. It's an absolute animal with what crypto is doing. And you have different forms of payment.
checked, I think there was like maybe 10 or 20 new payments that come out at least a week,
like I can't, or payment types or coins or whatever you want to call it. It's just,
it's impossible to keep up with this stuff. You know, so I'm really focused, especially in the
streaming industry, because I think the streaming and VTubers and influencers is an extension of
the entertainment industry. And I find it so interesting that I'm seeing this trend and this
fad being pushed harder and harder as far as the integration and mass adoption of cryptocurrencies and forms of
payment and whatnot. My second part of that question, you kind of touched up on already,
and this is where I'll kind of yield my time. Again, I don't know if you're familiar with
the Sovereign Wealth Fund, essentially a centralized place for the
nation. It's like a glorified savings account for the nation. I believe Pakistan has one. I'm pretty
sure Iran has one. I'm not going to get political necessarily, but China says they don't have one.
I don't believe them. I'm pretty sure they do. Just saying, do your own research, y'all.
My question is that because we are over $30 dollars in debt as a nation, is it possible?
Is it possible that maybe the moves that the president and many powers that be, including even Grant Cardone, shout out to Grant, by the way, love you, brother, if you're listening to this, they're trying to I feel like they're trying to usher in a new wave of digital currency.
And I'm wondering if you think it's possible that maybe
they're like, okay, well, the dollar's inflated to hell and back. I know they're trying to do
some things to save it, but is it possible that they're actually maybe switching entirely? And
it's a very long, grueling process to do like a sovereign wealth fund. And this, again, what I'm
just paraphrasing and coming down here to just simply explain the savings account for the U.S., that they will be putting like cryptocurrency in that.
Do you think that's even possible?
I hope my question is understood.
So, like, basically have stores of value in the U.S., like they could accumulate a bunch of like Bitcoin or Ethereum or Solana and put it into the savings account, if I'm understanding right.
Yeah, basically, do you think that's possible?
And if so, how long do you think maybe something like that would take, needless to say?
I mean, I definitely think it's possible. I think that the government has already expressed interest in collecting, you know, Bitcoin specifically and other cryptocurrencies to use.
Like, I'm not like super, I'm not like the most educated when it comes to like government entities and what they're doing and yada, yada, yada, just to disclose that.
yada, yada, yada, just to disclose that. But basically, like I've seen the government talking
about how it wants to accumulate certain things. You know, we've seen the Trump administration
accumulating a lot of different, you know, cryptocurrencies. And I think that, you know,
is definitely possible, whether that's a negative or positive. I don't really necessarily,
I can't really tell you whether it is or not. I don't necessarily see it as a negative or positive. I don't really necessarily, I can't really tell you whether it is or not. I
don't necessarily see it as a negative. Because like, unlike fiat, which you can print every day,
apparently, because that's, you know, what we're really good at is printing money every single
freaking day. But, you know, with Bitcoin, it's always going to have a finance supply.
And that's great. It's not gonna, you know, it's never gonna to have a finance supply. And that's great.
It's not going to – it's never going to – you can't just print more Bitcoin.
It's just not going to happen.
And that, I think, would be the best or about value.
I think somebody had talked about before, instead of having the dollar run on gold, it would run on digital gold on Bitcoin.
run on gold, it would run on digital gold on Bitcoin. And even that would be a better alternative.
Because even if the government has some kind of involvement, that would be the kind of involvement
that we would want to see. Because ultimately, you know, like, I don't know, I just I don't see a lot
of value in the dollar going, going like in the future. Like, I think that we've printed so much
of it at this point that one day it's just going to collapse on itself. Like, I really do truly
think that it's just kind of like, it's not a great system that we have. And I don't know how
to change that personally. You know, us at the bottom, you know, politicians are the only ones
that can do that. We can't really do much unless we get into politics. And even then, it's just a
much greater system than any of us can control. But what we can control is where we put our money.
And, you know, anybody wanting to reserve their money and base it off of Bitcoin's value or
crypto value, I feel like it's a lot better than it would be on fiat, honestly.
So I don't know if that answered your question.
I probably confused people.
What would you say about precious metals like silver, gold, palladium?
I mean, those are always going to be like you always hear about the gold standard.
I think you can never go wrong
with having like those things, gold and silver, those are always going to be classic stores of
value. I know a lot of people that are big crypto and big gold and silver people. And they just
don't like to keep their money in fiat at all. Which I think is, you know, like a very, if I didn't have to pay bills every month
through the US, you know, through my bank account, I would probably be one of those people as well.
So yeah, I just, yeah, I think gold and silver are pretty cool too. Although I have not done a lot
of research about those two things in particular, but they have stood
the test of time. And that's why they call Bitcoin digital golds because of how valuable
gold is essentially and how valuable they think Bitcoin will be.
So Justin, so I go just buy like buy some uncirculated silver coins or, you know, gold
coins or whatever, like just get know, gold coins or whatever,
like just get five, 10, like whatever, and just let them stack up
and get the uncirculated, you know, because the government doesn't have it,
you know, they haven't put it out there or whatever.
And I think you'll like that if you're kind of, you know,
like, you know, diverse with your with your you know portfolio or not anyway
hi coyote hey yeah i feel like a nerd for saying that because i go by like like silver
like honestly uncirculated and i do it every two weeks and uh I don't know. That's my thing. I've been doing it for a long time, and it's went up over 50%.
Yeah, Coyote lives off the grid.
Full disclaimer, by the way.
I just want to say thanks.
Ashley, thank you for taking time.
I'm about to step down.
Thank you for taking the time.
Yes, I'm on crypto.
Ada, Poly, Bro, I've seen an NFT made with Poly or Matic, Polygon. That's when I knew that that was something. But seen a, an NFT made with a poly or Matic polygon.
That's when I knew that that was something, but a XRP, sir, XRP.
That's when the SEC did what they did to them and nobody else.
I knew it right there. I've been, I've been trading penny stocks for a long damn time.
So I already see that game.
see that game you know what i want to jump in and just you know acknowledge that i came into
this space excited because i was going to hang out with my friends but not necessarily excited
because of this interview but now i'm looking back and i'm like my mind is blown i have to say
that because somebody from the audience actually um i message means they're
like this girl's awesome i've never heard of her before and you know i'm just going to recap like
the highlights that really impressed me about your life um starting out you know raising money
through nft or cryptos for cancer that's awesome um This may not be the right way to say it, but you know,
MMA fighting, you know, as I guess an amateur, that's awesome. Conquering your own bipolar
disorder or battling it with positivity. That's awesome. I mean, I could go on and on and on,
but fortunately this space is recorded.
I do want to announce to the room that we're doing 15 more minutes of questions. We're going to close at 9 p.m. Eastern time.
But, Ashley, I just want to thank you for sharing your story, being transparent.
You came in from the beginning saying that you're an open book and you lived up to that.
Coyote, I see you got your hand up.
Go for it.
I was going to see what I actually thought about.
And I've actually, I don't know how I've unfollowed you.
You were one of the first accounts
because it was the decan thing had drew me in
like whenever I got back onto X
before I had even a thousand followers.
So nice to meet you or whatever.
Anyway, Cardania, Ada, what do you think about the – do you believe in it or not?
I actually was one of the very few people a couple years ago.
I went to a conference.
I mentioned the conference earlier, Rare Evo.
They were one of the first people to expose me to Cardano.
And I actually really like it. I don't
know if you know Lily. She talks about Cardano all the time. She's like one of my BFFs on here.
I love, love, love her. I've actually met Charles. Super, super nice guy. Very humble. Literally
goes up to everyone and just shakes their hand. It's just like just very relatable, down to earth kind of dude.
I really like Cardano.
I'm rooting for Cardano.
I think there's a lot of great things about it.
It gets a lot of shit from people from other communities like Solana and Ethereum.
You know, like it becomes kind of like the joke.
But also if you post about Cardano,, you will get more engagement than most other cryptocurrencies on X that I've seen.
They've got a huge community, super slept on.
So I have a lot of love for Cardano personally.
Appreciate you.
What about XRP?
There's someone in the audience that loves xrp and he's refused to
mic multiple times now so i'm hoping you hate it but don't let that sway your opinion
see i don't hate xrp but i was burned for many years on xrp so i still have some i still have
hope for it uh but actually one of the team members, I don't know why, but he blocked me for some reason.
So it also gave me a very, it was very rude.
I don't even know what I did.
You know, so like, I've just had a very not super great experiences with XRP.
super great experiences with XRP. I also almost got scammed by somebody claiming to work with a
product from XRP that I was going to do work with, but it turned out to be like this whole
crazy thing. So I'd say that the community for XRP needs to kind of like, I need to see more of
them because I have not really been seeing a whole lot of XRP in my timeline. I haven't been, you know, maybe it's just because I don't follow enough people that
are into it, but my perception is kind of like meh on it, you know? I think it's been around for a
while. It has a lot of like, you know, like it did a lot back in the day, but like nowadays,
I don't really hear too much about it.
Um, I think I heard about something the other day passing. Um, but I can't remember that's,
that's how little that I keep up with it, to be honest. It's longterm. Yeah. Oh, believe me.
I've been holding it since like 2021. It's the very first thing that I bought when I got into crypto.
So I have been holding that shit forever and I will probably hold it till the day that I die. Because I just honestly, I even forgot that I had it for like a whole year.
Then I look back at my wallet and I have it.
So it's just one of those things that I'm probably going to just have forever.
Good to know. Thank you. Go ahead, Angela. Yeah. So I wanted to ask, I think,
did I, I think I came across that you were doxxed in the past. So, and I had an experience where I
was swatted. Um, I was curious if that's true and if there was anything that you would like to
speak at all about that experience. I feel like
there are others in the room that have been doxxed and so it you know it's it's always an interesting
topic to hear about people's experience. Oh man I'm so sorry to hear that you were spotted. I
have been fortunate enough to where that hasn't happened to me but I had a guy and he still, you know, for the past four years,
I'm not sure what his problem with me is or where it started. I have some ideas and I'm not going
to mention his name because I don't give attention to people that do not deserve attention.
But basically, this guy created a fake account that was a friend, a friend of mine's account.
He pretended to be them.
He changed like a letter in their name.
And then he put out a tweet about me that said something to the fact of this person stole from a kid's cancer charity.
If you know my relationship with the Giving Block, the American Cancer Society, St. Jude, Susan G. Komen, all companies that I've given charity money to that is proven on the blockchain that I have great relationships with can verify that obviously this didn't happen.
But on X, sometimes people like to take misinformation and they like to spread it.
And unfortunately, that was one of those pieces
of information that people decided to spread for whatever reason. So it ended up kind of like
ruining my life for like a whole month, where it was just people attacking me, the same person
created another alt account. Fortunately, X took it down very quickly, where they not only posted
my full address, but they posted both me and my
husband's number, both me and my husband's email addresses. They, you know, were basically trying
to dox family members of mine that are children, which is never acceptable, crazy, insane. So
started going on my Instagram where it got suspended. I mean, this person,
you know, I don't know what they're, again, I don't know why, but they just decided, you know,
like, like I mentioned earlier, there are just some people that are just so negative and toxic.
And, you know, this place can be kind of accessible. But fortunately, you know, like I said,
kind of accessible. But fortunately, you know, like I said, I had a really good support system.
People on X really, really helps me. Twitter immediately, I posted on Twitter,
or X, I'm sorry, I keep calling it, I keep dead naming it. But so I reached out on X,
you know, I posted like that I got docs and I needed help and somebody from X reached out to me literally within 10 minutes and was like oh my gosh tell us who tell us what
happened so I told them what happened they really helped me manage the
situation and like five minutes after I contacted them unfortunately it all got
clipped it cleared up the account guts got, you know, like suspended, and everything kind of went back
to normal mostly. But that was like, super scary. I had people sending me weird packages,
people calling and leaving very creepy messages, people screenshotting that and sending it to
people that I worked with, acting like it was factual information. Like, I mean, just to the point where, like, it was a mixture of, you know,
fear and character assassination and, like, you know,
and ask somebody, like, with bipolar disorder, like, going through those lows
and then having that happen to you, that is probably the worst combo ever.
And, you know, Angela, I know that, you know,
it's like to have somebody violate your privacy because you got swatted, which was way worse
than what happened to me, in my opinion. But, you know, that can make you feel so naked and afraid
and like vulnerable in a way that that is hard to describe because you feel so out of control.
And no matter what you do, you know, like you literally can't do anything. You just have to
kind of like let time pass. And sometimes that's all that it is this time. So like,
I just had to take a moment and take some time off social media. Like, you know, unfortunately
can feel like, like there was a tweet, I think, by Tyler, the creator, that was something to the effect of like, how does online bullying happen?
Just like close your computer.
But if somebody has your phone number, if somebody has your email, somebody has your address, you can't really do that.
Because the people make themselves known.
people make themselves known and that can be a very terrifying thing. You know, like, so
And that can be a very terrifying thing.
it was just honestly, I had to let time pass. That was one of the few instances in my life
where I felt like I did not manage it quite the way that I had hoped because it was just so,
it was so like crazy. It was the craziest thing that ever happened to me in my life. Like,
Like crazy.
It was the craziest thing that ever happened to me in my life.
Like I never had somebody hate me that bad.
And I still don't know what I did to this day to make them so upset at me for whatever reason.
But it was just like after some time went by and I kind of like got back into the groove of things, everything kind of went a lot better.
But this made me
very careful of people. And that's one thing that people need to be careful of is like,
you know, like I mentioned, like getting into negative arguments with people, you got to be
real careful who you say certain things to because some people are that crazy that they will go find your information and they will post it online.
So like, just, just be mindful of who you're talking to. Cause sometimes you could be talking
to a real psycho. So girl. Yeah. No, thank you so much for sharing that. I'm, I'm so,
so sorry that that happened to you. Um, yeah, I mean, I feel that way a lot. It's different,
right? Like, so yes, I was swatted and for, there's a lot of things I want to say, but, um,
I think about that all the time, just in New York, like it's not worth it. Like, I don't know about
certain ways of interacting with people because you just never know. But, you know, you also like you want to be authentic and
like be yourself and not have to like, hide that like light and like, you know, you're never going
to please everyone, you know, with all like all of us on social media and making content, like
there's always going to be people, which is actually going to transition into my last question
I want to ask you. But, you know, we do like there's always going to be people my last question I want to ask you, but you know, we do like,
there's always going to be people that don't like what we have to say, but we're saying it for a reason.
Like we're putting out there what we think is important and you know, not, we're never
going to be able to please everyone.
There's always going to have people who like disagree or don't like us.
And it could be for a variety of reasons.
I mean, it literally could be like a trigger of like,
you remind them of someone that, you know, like that they, they don't like or had a bad experience
with. So you never, you just never know kind of, like, authentically, like, still, I think,
be ourselves and do the best we can. And, you know, it's a whole balance of, like, you know,
do you want to, like, dim your light, etc. But, like, the whole, you know, dealing with hate and the haters and that kind of a thing is where my question is going.
But I also just think that, you know, like with the, you know, victim like shaming and blaming, it's like I don't think I heard you kind of say like, oh, you know, what is it that I did or did I do something? I don't really, you know, it's easier said than done, but like we all do that and we're like, oh, could I have done something
differently or what did I do wrong? But like, I don't really think that that's like what it's
about. So, so yeah, so basically I just kind of, I think this transitions into something I wanted
to ask you is like being a woman, you know, on social media,
especially one who puts themselves out on camera. I feel like we deal with like a lot of hate and
negativity and all of that. And so, I mean, I know you sort of spoke to earlier how you kind
of deal with things and mental health, but I just didn't know if there was anything else that I know people ask
me this question a lot. So I wanted to hear your thoughts on it of like how you sort of
deal with it. Because I think it can be really tough, you know, and you mentioned online bullying,
and you've dealt with bullying just in general in life. You know, how do you kind of deal with it?
And how do you kind of keep going? And especially now on social media and putting yourself out there? Oh, man, I know, I know you for sure know
how to, how to deal with it and have dealt with it so, so much. So honestly, like, I have noticed
that if you respond in a humorous way where, you know, like you don't show that things are bothering you.
That is the best way to do it and like not feeding into the people that are like negatively impacting you.
Like me mentioning someone's name that negatively impacted me, that positively impacts them.
Because some people that are hateful are going to be like, I'm going to follow that guy because I love to hate on people.
And there are people like that. It's crazy. There's a whole bunch of people like that.
And who knows why they feel this way. Maybe they just didn't get enough love as a kid or something.
I don't know. But like your audience is the people that you need to be here for. Like,
you know, like they're the people that, you know, are the reason literally my audience without them, I would not be where I am today at all.
Like it is literally all their fault.
So that could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the way you look at it.
But basically, like I just use it as jokes.
Like whenever – like I had – I know you had a beef with Ben Shapiro, Angela, and I also did too.
And that was one of my favorite beefs of all time, honestly, because he's so funny to make fun of.
But like, it's more like pot shots instead of like, you know, being completely rude.
But basically, like, I got a lot of like Ben Shapiro fans that were like that they did not
like me at all. And I didn't realize I'm more on crypto, you know, X versus like normal people X,
which are very two different algos and two very different kinds of people. And wow, it was a lot. And basically just making jokes has saved me, I think,
from more bullying. And that's something that I did when I was younger. And that's what I do now
is like, I just feed into the joke. You know, like there was a guy that used to always either
send dick pics to me in my DMs or post them underneath my posts every time.
And so what I did is I took those pictures and I minted them as NFTs.
And then I posted it on X.
And I was like, hey, you know, this guy has been, you know, making an ass of himself.
So I helped him get the attention out here that he so desperately wanted.
And man.
Oh, man.
Did he never speak to me again?
But he sure was very, very upset about it.
But, like, you can do.
Like, if somebody is messing with you.
Like, you can do it in a way that's not like.
Oh, you know, I'm going to, like.
I don't know.
Like, you can do it in a non-threatening. Or, like, a way that's'm going to like, I don't know, like you can do it a non-threatening or like,
like a way that's not going to bring you down because ultimately like you are above their
level at this point. There's no need to, to punch down. Um, like, like punching down is like the
least productive thing you can do. Just like make a joke out of it. Have fun with it. Like,
you know, like Angela, you, you do it really well where like somebody digs into something that you're doing and you just like go with it and go with the flow and like, like just be your truest self. And that's all that you have to do is like show your audience like that. That's not going to bother me. You know, what bothers me is like, like somebody writing on my parade.
like somebody writing on my parade. Um, and I'm not going to let them do that. Cause like I'm me
and they're them and they're not going to make me like be less than I am. Like I'm still going to
shine bright even if they try to take down my light. Like I'm just, I'm just like, uh, you know,
this is going to sound real cocky, but I'm just that bitch and you're not. So like, that's all you got to say to yourself. I'm that
bitch and they're not. And they're, you know, like, they're going to see me shine. It's going
to eat them alive inside. And you just keep you just keep shining. Like, who cares what they say?
Honestly, because their life, their words are never going to impact you as long as you keep
doing your own thing.
I love it so much.
Yeah, I don't know if you've heard, but I give the best forehead.
I thought it was five head.
Oh, yeah, five head, forehead, whatever.
Yeah, you're right.
It is five head.
You're right.
But like if I, yeah, if I had a penny for every time someone came at my four slash five head, it's like, right. So you own it. I love it. I love that so much.
You know, I see these videos on Insta and stuff like that. And it's like how to reduce your forehead. And every time I just want to like tag you, I just refrain.
No, it's fine. You can tag me, but like, I don't know. I don't know.
To each their own, but like, a lot of beautiful people have bigger foreheads.
I'm just teasing you.
Your forehead's beautiful.
I honestly don't even think you have a big forehead.
I never noticed at all, Angela.
I don't know.
I don't even understand what you're talking about right now.
If it was really that big, Angela, they wouldn't have to edit it to make it big.
That's all you need to know.
Right.
That's a really good point, Shane.
Because, like, right, if you're telling me I have a huge forehead, then why are you making it bigger for your photo or whatever?
Like, exactly.
That's a really good point.
Maybe you should just start wearing hats.
I do wear hats. I wear them a lot.
And then when I wear and I post a picture of me in a hat, people are like, oh, you finally caught on.
You wore a hat to cover your forehead.
Just shave your head.
Sinead O'Connor.
If Trash Discourse and I can't play paper football on your forehead, it's not that big. Right, Trash?
I have a confession
go for it okay angela might even know this so uh you know in the heat of like post 2020 2021
obviously you were taking this bold lib stand whatever and we were all kind of really frustrated
because a lot of us were trying to get you know politically what we wanted to get done and
there's a lot of people out there that were notable. You were one of them
And you annoyed the shit out of me. Obviously, I've come around
Obviously, like, you know, you know, you and I've had spaces we've talked it's fine
I and I kind of understand a lot of more things and I have some friends that are mutuals of yours that I understand even more
And so i've never really had a problem with you, but the confession is, is that me and a friend of mine on X played tic-tac-toe on your forehead back and forth.
So we were using screenshots and we were playing tic-tac-toe publicly. Like we were posting it,
I think to you, by the way. And so, my apologies for that.
I'll admit that openly on the space.
But that definitely happened. So, it's your fault, then.
No, no.
I'm not really much of a bully.
Actually, people know me a lot.
I actually do get a lot of crap on this app and in social media.
Because sometimes I do get a little spicy.
I stand on my own two feet and I stand on my beliefs.
And I do stick behind what I believe.
And I'll also, you know,
admit when I was wrong or whatever. I'll also stand behind it. But I have no malicious intent.
Matter of fact, I really go after the people that seem to have a malicious intent or are
completely unhinged on the internet. Like, I don't take well to that. And then when I learned,
really, when I started researching on some stuff that I was doing on censorship and astroturfing
and psychological operations on social media, I learned how weaponized the comment sections are. They really
are. And they're weaponized by, I don't know, foreign governments, by our DOD. They're weaponized
by NGO state actors. There's a lot of people that have a best interest into making you get into an
emotional response mechanism state. And the moment you get there is a moment that they've got you.
And it does start to shift and change how you do things. And it makes you change the way you do
things. So this is why I'm staunchly always called a fed. I'm constantly always, you know, attacked,
whatever, if I'm not called a fed. And so I lean into any attack or I ignore it, or I just simply
call them a retard and move on. And I think that more people would do well to do that because there's a lot of emotional manipulation
used by social media.
But Angela, I did want to admit to you
that that definitely happened.
Well, Trash, you're not the only one.
She converted me too.
Go ahead, Angela.
No, no, what were you going to say?
No, I was just going to tell Trash.
I trolled Angela for a good solid six months
before I fell in love with her.
I would say falling in love, but I would say that's like a mutual respect.
It's kind of like a head nod.
Oh, it's too late.
You already said it, Trash.
You came in here and confessed.
No, I'm going to report his face now.
I'm actually pretty sure I was consistent, but yeah.
I'm playing.
Yeah, I trolled the hell out of her.
And the day she won me over was when Trump was arrested.
She walked by the Trump Tower with this really smug look on her face.
And I won't tell you what I said to her, but her response to me was like, you know, not your typical leftist response.
She just kind of rolled with my comment.
And after that, I said, you know what, I'm trolling the wrong person.
So I started trolling
her trolls and now here we are two years later well her and i have a mutual that she may not
know that we have a mutual but we do and there was a specific moment in new york uh that i was
like all right all right that's fine we're good oh yeah i don know. But we should talk about that. But I do really appreciate that. And, you know, I'm smiling from ear to ear. I think this is what it's all about. And space right now having conversations and laughing and smiling
and like, you know, talking real talk. And like, I think it's just so, so cool. Um, and that is
really the beauty of last week on X and you know, what I've really appreciated. And I, yeah, I think
it's so cool. So I'm so happy that you're here and I appreciate, no, I love realness. I'm like a, I'm a real, I'm a real person.
I love authenticity.
I love transparency.
Like, let's keep it real.
Let's have the real talks.
So I do really appreciate you coming in and saying that.
So yeah, so Trash, I appreciate you and that's okay.
And it made me laugh and no and no, no worries. I have
a sense of humor. I think humor and laughter and all of that is so important. It's another really
big, like mental health, like life hack. Like we need to like laugh and have fun and all of that,
I think is so important. Um, so I do want to, yeah, I do want to wrap up with Ashley. Ashley,
I do want to wrap up with Ashley.
Ashley, you rock.
How can we best support you?
Are you still streaming?
Are you still like twitching and doing all of that?
I'm doing some streaming mostly on X because Twitch is like very particular.
And like sometimes I like to smoke some weed on stream.
And Twitch does not like that very much.
So yeah, I do stream.
I'll probably stream this week a couple times.
And I mostly just make like video content.
That's like my big thing is like skits.
And they're all mostly like crypto related stuff.
I do a lot of shit posting and I play, I play a lot of Hello Kitty Island
adventure. So you'll probably watch me stream that. Um, yeah, so I, I mostly just do, I honestly
just do a little bit of everything. So, um, yeah, any, any support, if you have any questions,
um, feel free. I'm literally, you can DM me me I'll probably respond because I don't really like
I'm I'm like one of those people like no matter how many followers you have we're all just people
here so feel free to you know be friends I I'm a friendly person if you're a friendly person
let's be friends you can tell I definitely I've been loving your brain rot news. So it's all good. And I see NAG has a hand up. What's up? Is it Leon? Is it?
Oh, no, we can't hear you.
I can't hear them.
Oh, no.
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, we can't hear you. I can't hear them. I'll go ahead and rotate them. Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
We'll rotate them back down.
But, yeah, so brain rot news.
Oh, no.
Hi, you're good.
All right, yeah, I just wanted to say before we lose, Ashley,
I think I speak for everyone.
Tonight has been absolutely awesome.
You know, whether learning about your come up, how you deal with some of the tougher things in life and the
situations that arise, or, you know, the fact that if I need a potential bodyguard, then you have some
training in the book. So maybe that, maybe we'll come back around to that, but thanks so much for
coming tonight. It's been, I know I've been lurking in here, but it's just been awesome. I've listened
to every second of it. It's been fantastic. You're so cool.
And I can't wait to keep following.
And hopefully the best comes for you in the future.
Oh, thank you.
That means so much.
Y'all are seriously some of the nicest people.
It is so nice to come into space and be able to share and be vulnerable.
And everybody is just being vulnerable with you.
I love that.
Thanks, Ashley. But also like it really takes you coming in and you are so, you know, open and honest and just like, you know, like you said,
just like all out there and you yeah, you just I feel like we really got to know you so well. And
that's what this is all about. So we really appreciate it so much. And you rock.
I really hope that we get to meet. Well, you'll be closer. You'll be in Florida. I'm in Texas.
It's not very long to drop. I go to I'm actually going to Miami in or I'm going to Key West in
August and Miami in August. So I will be in that area.
Key West is, oh my God.
Key West is like my favorite place.
That's literally my happy place is Key West.
Dude, I'll be there for a whole week,
like around, let's see, July,
like end of July, beginning of August.
So let me know if you're in town.
Yeah, sadly, I won't be yet. So
I'm still I don't move down to Florida till mid August. So I won't be there quite yet. But
we will definitely be in touch. I would love to meet up. We will definitely have an have an epic
collab. We are still we are also planning this ex meetup in Vegas.
We are also planning this ex-meetup in Vegas.
Oh, that's cute.
Yeah, which we're looking more now.
Because I was so excited about it.
I was like, yeah, we're going to do it for August.
But I have to do this whole move now.
Tell me you're going to do it late October, early November.
First week of November, late October.
Tell me you're going to do it then.
I mean, will I get you to Vegas?
I'll be in Vegas. I'll be in Vegas. i'm there every year for a week for a convention and it's like the best time of the year when is it
trash what's last week of october first week of november in that range i will literally no matter
like that i love vegas and i love x. So anytime, I am down.
Okay.
Well, I think October is definitely... Yeah, it's in the running.
So for the record...
I'm only three and a half hours from Vegas.
So trash.
I'd be happy to come out either way.
If you came out either way, I'll get you a pass to SEMA.
And you can go to SEMA and go check out all the cars.
I'll be there, dude.
Give me the pass. I'll be there. Yeah, I'll get you the pass, man. I'll get it for my company and go check out all the cars give me the pass i'll be yeah i'll get you the pass man i'll get for my company it's no problem
we have 100 badges that we get over here yeah no worries i get 100 badges man leon says he's in too
so yeah let's do this we're down yeah we get 100 badges we only use like 30 of them yeah it's fine
cool well i mean epic stuff to come guys so um speaking of epic stuff to come, guys. So speaking of epic stuff to come, again, Ashley, thank you so much.
Everybody, please subscribe.
Ashley, I think you're one of the first people I subscribe to on X.
Oh, you know what?
You're literally the first person I subscribe to.
So that's like literally perfect.
Oh, my God.
I love it so much.
I'm so happy that you are here tonight.
Thank you so much for your time
um everybody please please please subscribe follow support Ashley in every way shape and form I not
that I have to tell you because you obviously heard how awesome she is so Ashley we love you
so much we are gonna do maybe a quick thing to just promote anything coming up this week, guys, that anybody wants to promote.
Any spaces or anything anyone wants to promote coming up this week on X?
Shane?
I've got a space that I'll promote.
So anybody that's bored right now after this space ends, I'm pinning to the nest a game space.
I'm pinning to the nest a game space. It's gonna be like chill
It's going to be, like, chill.
For those of you interested in playing like an X version of werewolf or mafia
They're gonna start doing that once a week in this space. So follow the link in the nest when we leave here
And some of us will be over there doing like live games here on X
Looks like yotes's got something.
Go ahead, Yoke.
Yes, sir. We got George
Santos tomorrow. Probably one of his
at 7 o'clock.
It'd be 6 p.m.
God's time here in Texas.
George.
Oh, my God. I have to come by
and say hi to George, my buddy.
I've been trying to get together with him in NYC, but yeah.
His plate's full right now, but yeah, George is usually available.
He's fine.
Yeah, he'll be there tomorrow, and I think, Tress, I don't know,
last time we talked the other day, you said maybe you're going to come in
the next Monday and let me spotlight you, or no?
Yeah, you're talking about this Monday, like tomorrow?
No, not tomorrow. The next one.
I got George tomorrow.
What time?
It's at 7 Eastern.
Yeah, yeah, I can do it.
All right, cool, cool.
I'll book you in, man.
I appreciate that.
But yeah, come see George tomorrow, dude.
I think it'd be good.
I've been looking into some of the other stuff to maybe give him a little bit of hope, man.
He's got a lot of people that like him.
George and I have the weirdest friendship.
That's weird.
I used to hate him.
Like, I don't know how I like him so much.
The best friendships happen is like when you dislike each other and all of a sudden you win each other over and you're like, yes.
We started off when he hated me and that's how we become friends.
And it's like a,
I don't know.
You just have to be there to see it,
I guess.
And then you had an MMA fight and then you just became closer than ever.
Right,
Ashley.
Exactly.
That's exactly how friendships work.
I agree.
I love it. I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, so, okay, I don't know if anyone else has anything else.
If you do, raise your hand.
But we also have a new space coming on Tuesday.
I think I mentioned it at the beginning.
But I'm going to be hosting a space on Tuesdays at 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.
So Eastern Time, Breaking Barriers.
We're going to talk about headlines, current events that day.
And I believe Shane's going to be co-hosting with me.
And yeah, so we're starting this Tuesday.
So Tuesday, 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time,
we'll be doing Breaking Barriers for the first time,
which will be a new weekly space in addition to our last week on X
every Sunday at 7 o'clock
Eastern Standard Time. So thanks to NAG Network Access Group, guys. Thank you so much. Please,
everybody, if you haven't already checked them out, follow them. We're so thankful for all their
love and support. So yeah, guys, super exciting stuff.
I'm also next Saturday going to be on Chrissy Mayer's podcast,
so I will definitely post the info for that.
That'll be next Saturday at 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time,
so a lot of good stuff coming up.
Very excited, the move, all that jazz, but very, very good stuff.
I also have the Tim Pool podcast
in the works coming up in August. August 8th, I believe, is going to be the day. So that's
actually happening. I know we've had conversations about that. It's actually going to happen. So in
August, I'll be on Tim Pool doing a little podcast tour to build to i'm starting a podcast guys it's happening i'm
starting a podcast in september finally i'm very excited like dreams are coming true so yeah so the
you know angela belcamino tv i'm not releasing the name yet. Podcast will be coming in September.
So yeah, we're doing a little tour and promoting and all that jazz.
So thank you guys so much.
I appreciate you all.
Oh my God.
You're the best.
Ashley, you should definitely come on the podcast.
That would be incredible.
So hopefully, you know, we can make that happen like you said
florida texas yeah texas to florida is much easier so we can make that work for sure hopefully if
you're down we need angela if i may i never plug but i guess i'm going to if i can okay cool thanks
uh so walter kurt and i uh during the week at least, and sometimes on the weekend, at 8.30 p.m. Eastern, we do the political theater.
And this is not like the retail politics Facebook stuff.
This is kind of like inside baseball, inside the beltway conversations that we have.
You know, obviously talking about what different PACs are doing, what different political things are going on.
The goings on, kind of like the goings on behind the goings on.
And so we talk about that during those times.
But I know it will interfere with some of your guys' stuff.
But if you want to join, it's usually up.
And so this is what we did.
It's called the Political Theater.
Awesome.
I love it.
I'm glad you said that.
Yes, everybody.
I know. We do have some conflicting, obviously, spaces and things going on. But like, obviously no exception, just really connecting on so many
levels and bringing people together. And Ashley, I really, I appreciate you so much for being so
open and, you know, just telling your story and just, there was no censorship. You just like,
you put it all out there. And I think we all really connected to that and it was beautiful.
So thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you for all the time.
Everybody, thank you so, so, so much for contributing and appreciate you guys. Love
you guys. And hopefully I'll see you on Tuesday, breaking barriers, nine o'clock Eastern Standard
Time. Love you guys. Have a beautiful week. Happy fourth weekend. I hope everyone had a great
weekend and holiday. All the love, guys.
Thank you so, so, so much.
I appreciate you.
And we'll talk soon.
Good night.
