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$bnkr vibe.market mfers
Recorded: Oct. 1, 2025 Duration: 1:35:24Space Recording
Short Summary
Crypto enthusiasts are buzzing about the innovative integration of OK computers with Vibe Market, marking a significant project launch that promises growth and new opportunities in the NFT space. As discussions around token launches and strategic partnerships unfold, the community is witnessing a trend towards real-world applications of digital assets.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. fuck it i wasn't done i wasn't done i wasn't done either i wasn't done vibing on the market
and and you know like they they cut us off these guys they they ducked out of their own space bro
they ducked out of their own space what can you do like it's not time it's not time yet it'll be
time but it's not time yet i just sent a message to the group chat saying I'm not sleeping until my pack flips melted.
Oh, let me help.
Hold on, hold on. Where are we at?
It's just funny because they're about the same market cap right now.
Or the same price.
I'm just talking shit.
Let's change that. Hold on one sec honestly i don't think is
i'm not gonna sell any i'm just i'm just talking about buying some more yeah no for real let's go
i did too tonight but i honestly am really excited about this idea that like now but i'm a little bit
frustrated because i have updated all
the metadata so you can link now there's like a feature where you can link each card individually
to a website and so i could feel the click happen in real time bro yeah yeah yeah so like my my my
realization was like oh shit i was fucking around with all those like i have that big stash of okay
computers and i had like been by that's when i was
like sort of learning to vibe code and stuff and i had made websites on probably i don't know 25
different computers or something and so i was like oh yeah dude i made like a bunch of different
fucking shit i actually in fact like the whole task the task that i realized i had to do was to
go back and find which computers had which
websites that i had vibe coded and a lot of them are just like silly kind of like like like troll
like web pages of like dick butt thing things and whatever others are like generators and stuff
and so i'm gonna curate it i'm gonna like it for tonight though i kind of just speed ran it
it was like to link it's i like, oh shit, I can link.
Now this is like, I have a purpose for those because I can link a card to each one and
I can kind of like decide, like, so like, it'd be funny to link like the, the commons
cards to some of those like more trolling ones that are like the dick butt site and
some other random shit that I was just doing to practice learning to vibe code.
So that's what I was doing.
I'm a little bit frustrated though,
because the UI isn't really showing it,
even though I've updated the med all,
all I have updated each of my cards though,
in the metadata with a website that is hosted by an okay computers,
which I feel like sort of, are you doing different,
different okay computers sites for them?
Or is it like,
yes,
for each one.
Damn.
Although I haven't curated,
I did it kind of like fat,
like speed ran it tonight.
I'm going to come back to it.
I could feel when that fucking,
when it,
when that hit,
bro,
I could feel,
well,
cause it makes sense,
right?
It's,
it's so perfect. And the whole theme of mine is like compute okay computers and now this is a way
i can like tie okay computers to my five market project it's the missing link of this shit exactly
that's why i was like holy shit eureka even though it's not perfect yet i can take my time
though and get it but i'm a little bit frustrated. They have toβI'm not frustrated.
It's fine.
I think it's just the UI.
You sound frustrated.
You sound frustrated.
I've updated the metadata on all of them, but the UI on Vibe Market isn't showing it properly yet.
All right, so how do we get this?
All right, 10.30.
I'm buyingβlet's see.
How many can I buy?
I'll buy some more, too.
I'm buying 10.
Let's go right now.
I'm buying 10.
I'm not ripping 10. I'm buying 10. Yeah, right now i'm i'm buying 10 i'm not ripping 10
i'm buying 10 but yeah let's go i'm opening now how many am i holding though like how many hold
i'm how am i i'm holding 123 you're like the top holder i'm holding 123 but how many are unopened
i think we just did it already yeah hold on do i have any that are open like
you haven't opened any i feel like i i haven't opened any on this because there's 20 cards right
now and now it's like i knew like i had said after i like i stayed up like for like a week
like me and greensifer like geeked out like hard and we stayed up like all night for a few nights and i was working
on my deck and we and he was cooking his thing i got up to 20 cards and then i kind of put it on
the back burner and i was like i'm gonna wait and see when the next idea like yo sorry you know
what's funny you know i just realized i'm the top holder in my other wallet i have 37 you do i probably have a
shit ton to be honest because we were buying them at like a dollar i'm gonna open can i open 10
fuck yeah all right dude look look at my stats honestly um this is actually just invigorating
now i have a new direction like i have like this is actually a synthesis now i'm realizing holy shit i can do this part of that creative process too right i do yeah that's why
i love vibe market dude this lets you iterate this lets you like like take your time and iterate as
you go as opposed to worrying about like dilution and like bullshit you know and like worried about
collectors like you can just like keep in fact it's it's makes it
symbiotic between you and the collector like you know i'm looking like i got a lot of comments here
dude i'm gonna need my money back yeah yeah yeah yeah uh no i got epic i got a baloney baloney
me computer if you got an epic that's basically a w yeah hold on what else do we have here okay
commons you're just comment bombing me the
fuck out you're not seeing the link buttons are you uh no so here let me pin up the update i
because i updated i think it's just a ui thing they're gonna uh nico will get me straight but
what i'm realizing is this synthesizes all the shit I had been doing with okay computers with my vibe market
collection because now I can connect individually I can connect the cards to the vibe coded web
pages I made on my okay computers um and that's fucking cool and I can make it funny because a lot
of them like I like for the commons like I linked it to the ones that are just like troll.
I have one computer site that's just like a Rickroll when you open it.
And so I linked that to one of the commons.
For example, and then my Dickbutt Snake game,
I linked to the Professor Dickbutt.
Anyway, et cetera, et etc etc you get the idea but
there's really is the missing link it's totally the missing link that's why i was like fuck it
i'm staying up and uh but and then i'm gonna in an hour in the future every time i make a new card
i will have in mind an okay computer that it will be linked to yeah dude eureka so anyway i'm cooking i love it
you guys are so hilarious the show goes on right let's go yeah if i wasn't done i wasn't done green
super like that was you know they gave up on the space and and we were still vibing though
that was not green do i sound crazy by the, do you understand like why I'm geeking?
What do you mean,
bro?
Like you don't sound crazy to me.
You sound normal.
You just unlocked an important fucking,
piece of the puzzle here,
bro.
For his collection,
which I just bought 10 more.
So I'm curious.
I'm curious.
So I was,
like they were talking about this like a little bit ago too,
right? Um, like putting a about this like a little bit ago too, right?
Like putting a metadata on like each individual card.
What are you planning sort of?
What are you going to do for your card?
Oh, did you not hear me just rant about it?
No, bro.
I just came in here, bro.
I didn't realize that you kept going.
I'll simplify this a little bit because in fact, you're the one that I want to like,
you're the person that I'd like to jam on about this um because of where you know well i'm offended you disgusting fucking no
you know what i mean green and i have spent like some sleepless nights over this shit so
anyway um i'm so you know the new linking feature i haven't checked it out bro okay let me send you that link
first because it's actually not working for me yet although I could up I I did update all the
metadata with it but uh in the UI it's not working yet so I'm yelling at Nico right now but it's
whatever um you better not yell it don't you raise your voice not yelling at Nico you fucking crazy dog
so to speak
I have
I guess the messy purple version of yell
is a fucking like subtle
like a subtle whine
like a little whine
halfway between a whine
no it's more like a polite
like hey I did this and it's like this is
really awesome but i can't sorry to bother you but also i'm gonna bother you with like a lot of
extra questions but don't mean to bother and don't worry about it but also no i think it's helpful
because there's something broken and they need to fix but anyway i updated so anyway um yeah i'm Anyway, I'm trying to find the post to show you for a screen, which is in my...
One second.
Here we go.
Sorry, I came up with the mythic on my shit, bro.
Mythic on what?
On my thing I've been cooking in the background.
No way. Oh, like you have a... Like for your deck. I'm mythic on what am I the thing I've been cooking in the background no way
oh like you have a like the you for your deck I'm gonna send it to you and
greens have purchased see what we go the mythic is a big decision dude it was a
big decision and I think when you see what what I chose you're gonna be like
ah yes okay check it out I will ask one time don't you fuck drop what you're doing
no i'm gonna explain this to green server though real first real quick
okay and then i'm gonna look at what ccosta showed me
and it's showing me because that's exciting um
do you see the link i put pinned up top the tweet card links and dude this is related to what because you i thought you knew
about this because of music cards and whatnot this is like yeah yeah that's what i mean they've
been talking about this for a little bit yeah yeah so this is basically what that is is basically
just that cards can have attached in each card can have a link individually attached to them
that you can just click on the card
in the corner.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
So then my thought tonight...
Wait, wait, wait.
Can you repeat it?
I missed the thing.
I want to hear it.
I want to see the update.
This is sick.
Okay.
So the new feature that they're launching that they've been teasing for a little bit
about like the music cards and whatnot is that you can attach uh like a hyperlink to each card
basically in the meta i got it so that's what is posted up and that that's what they just shipped
although in the ui it's that seems like they have work to do on it but you can do it you can already
do it you can if you go to the creator page you can update the metadata with each card.
Each card in the creator page can have a link attached to it now. So my thought was like, oh, holy fuck, my whole deck is about OK computers.
I already made a whole bunch of vibe-coded websites with OK computers.
So like, holy fuck, each of my cards should be linked to an OK computer.
Wow.
Hell yeah.
So that's what i did tonight
i went through each of them although i'm gonna refine it it's not perfect yet but like i did
go ahead and put into the metadata for each card is attached now is linked a okay computer
uh website fully on chain website isn't that a nice way to fucking add that that like that bridge
to i mean it's you get it you get it you made it real like you you brought it into real life
with this that's why i'm so stoked right now exactly you understand yeah yeah and because
and i had it right there all i had to do was like it's like it's like oh all i have to do now is
like i already have these things here now isn't it so funny that you felt this fucking drive to work on these things?
Like, you and Greensboro especially, right?
For all these months, like, you guys have just been cooking.
And then, like, then you come up with the idea for this.
And it just all falls into place because you've just been following the vibes, man.
You've been letting the vibes steer.
It's fucking...
It's vibes, bro.
Bro, I actually thought it was crazy.
It's vibes, bro.
I actually genuinely thought it was actually, like, insanely crazy.
Like, I don't believe in coincidences, yo.
But I thought it was actually crazy, bro.
I was genuinely looking for something exactly like this.
Like, ask Votnik, bro.
I was reaching out to this guy, bro.
I was like, bro, help me and shit, right?
But it turned out, bro, Nico had the answer, bro, the whole time, bro.
It was sick. Yeah, so you get basically where I'm at right now.? But it turned out, bro, Nico had the answer, bro, the whole time, bro. It was sick.
Yeah, so you get basically where I'm
at right now. Bro, it's insane, bro.
It's insane. Okay, yeah. It makes sense, right?
Like, low-key, right now, I have
regret, bro. I have regret
because I'm, like, majority of my cards,
bro, I could have had animations
saved for them,
but I just never, ever
thought, I mean, like, for future, I could do it. Or if I but i mean like for future i could do it
or if i yeah for future i could do it i never thought of this i just had i had
around with okay computers like as just like a hobby like side thing like because this is
fucking cool and now it turns out i have the perfect use for them so what's what's your uh
so how are you integrating it because each card will be linked this offers
a way i can link each card to an okay computer on chain website that's basically that's great
what are you gonna do with the with so like commons are like fucking funny troll websites
and then like the epics i'm linking to my like i'm using to like like i'm linking to my music
generator things um i've just done i just did a quick mock-up of it tonight, but I'll refine that.
But I'll do the rare...
The commons will be all kind of trolling websites that they'll link to,
and then the rares will be something in between.
Yeah, yeah, I put the Rickroll, one of the commons...
The Steve Mogd card links you to a Rickroll the Rickroll one of the common the the Steve job the Steve mogged card
Links you links you to a Rick roll It's hosted on one of my okay computers and the and then dick butts are the other ones
One of the rares is the dick butt snake snake game for example. You get the idea, right? Like
Yeah, yeah makes sense makes sense makes sense
But this shit opens like call a lot of new opportunities and stuff imagine this rachel lady that's doing like naked photos if you get like a and you and you get to see some
much more stuff you could link to her like only fans portal or something i don't fucking know like
i don't know like some shit like that she's a photographer bro i don't think okay sorry
i didn't mean to suggest anything but you know don't click links kids that's the number one
rule of fucking web three and we're i click every link bro and i'm doing just fine
well yeah true that i know that but still yeah click link so you're not fine you are fucking mentally unstable
bro like click click everything keeping a far caster fucking rabbit hole abyss of vibes man
and like don't even start with me with you're okay all you have to do is like separate yourself
like you're clicking from your your like your your money like that's not that hard to do to set up those protections, and then you can click anything.
I'm just saying.
Also, don't be
a fucking retard.
I think that's really the sweet spot.
I'm going to have a link to all of my ETHscriptions.
Maybe.
Yeah, like that.
That's great.
Is it only for new edits?
Back to the on-chain. is it only for new edits back to the on chain like you know
is it only for new edits or can you do it um for all of your collection you can retroactively
update it right yeah you can update any card oh cool cool it's not working in the ui like
properly just yet but if you go to the creator page you can add yes, there's a button you can add a link for any card
Yeah, that jungle bay
Art you made. I really with it, dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah
Bro, that she was uh, let me I forgot I was gonna retweet that shit. Let me let me see. I had no words
Yeah, oh good. I was just
Just seemed nice. Yeah cooked it up the south and welcome to jungle bay island today bro he got his fucking jungle bay he looks a little bit i it's not as
uh tropical as it might seem but the colors seem to work but yeah like i say in this meta in uh
meta 8 blockchain islands that it's constantly evolving and anything can happen so you never
know it might one day turn into a anything can happen so you never know it might
one day turn into a tropical paradise it just don't know it might have a volcanic um eruption
yeah yeah dear what started with just saying bro um there's you can add links to your cards now
yeah yeah that's what i just was asking yeah the link stuff is cool it's great idea bro so
essentially bro like sure like okay computers is a really smart route um for an on-chain route
right but bro i think i think i don't think we understand like the floodgates we've actually
opened with this because it's any link bro it i don't like is it restricted to fully on-chain
websites ardo no no i just think it's
i just personally think it's super that's my theme is to do because that's my whole theme
with my deck so but yeah it can be any link it can be any link yeah yeah it could be any link
bro so people basically i think now it kind of like uh makes sense what these guys were saying
earlier bro with like the whole uh 3dD animations they have attached to their cards and stuff like that.
Yeah, bro.
That's insane.
Like, bro, you could probably link, like, your, bro, you could probably link, like, your on cyberspaces or whatever, bro.
You could, bro, you could take it.
What do you mean, probably?
You can, 100%.
So check this, check this, check this.
Look around.
Like, you know, imagine,
you know, you have Jungle Bay Packs, bro.
You click on one of these packs, bro.
Takes you inside some place, bro.
It's just an island, bro.
It's an actual island, bro.
You're walking around.
You're just kind of...
Bro, bro, Greenstaffer,
you know we had a real fucking architect.
Like, we got two
We got Jungle Bay Beach and Jungle Bay Bungalow
That's hanging all like so many Jungle Bay arts
On OnCyber right now, bro
You can go to OnCyber.com
Dude, he's real sad
That makes me feel like
This is the thing I'm feeling right now
Is that all this old shit, Cicasta, that we built back in the day
That feels dead
That feels dead
Or maybe we wasted our time
or whatever, it's not.
It's going to come back and it's going to come in handy
and we're going to find applications
for it in really a couple ways.
Songs, if you're
an artist, like a
musician, right? That's kind of
a SoundCloud
library. It doesn't have to be on chain necessarily
but if it's something you've created and you want to pay homage to you know yeah link link link it up like
pay provenance to your own creations it makes sense yeah that's that plant your seeds and see
where they grow man like i i i know that the on cyber time and money that was invested that i
invested in it like is gonna be worth it someday
because that we put so much thought into like being able to like display some of the dopest art
from the home team artists in this like island setting man and it's just like the tech isn't
really conducive for like an enjoyable meeting place but it is eventually gonna be there man
where like you're just like you have a twitter
space within you know in that fucking uh you know environment or whatever you know what i mean like
where it's way less it's just seamless with how you could enter there and just have that be a
component of the the like twitter space experience or whatever it is you know what i mean like it's
just not there yet but i do think that it will get there but bro this is actually
kind of sick bro i'm telling you like uh imagine like link link one of your on cyber spaces to like
one of your uh like uh cards right people people click on it bro and they show up there bro they
show up in the island but they could be music playing. There could be other people there, bro.
Yeah, it's a good idea.
It's just not there.
It's still clunky for people that aren't familiar with it yet, you know?
Like when you walk in on cyber, it just doesn't...
No, I'm not saying on cyber, bro.
I'm not sure.
No, I know, but the idea is sick.
I know exactly what you mean.
Anything.
It could be anything, bro. It could be anything, bro.
It could be anything, bro.
You could make your own little whatever virtual space, bro.
Banker.
Banker verse, bro.
Deployer.
I mean, fucking dude.
Logger out.
Logger out on his own with his own two fucking hands built jungle bay island dot com, bro.
And these people on that one, man.
Like we could we could link that to all them to the uh ones that that i'm cooking right now like it's it's dope that they added this feature man
yeah yeah it's crazy bro it's the possibilities are actually infinite
i'm trying to find you can link it to your ens as well your ens profile like you know it's dot
domain slash meta a dot eath and then it then you know i see your ens profile has been
like a link tree if you set up right then that's like on chain identity you know what i mean 101
using that so i also i also got a friend who got the thing that uh allows people to claim the money
using the links it's called link drop like you can like put a $50 on a legendary and put
in the link to claim those money that would be sick as like as marketing just to push this
incentive to to like open the packs and get some some rare cards to claim the money that's sick
that's sick wait but so you can you claim it just is it like random or it's just like by showing up you can claim it
Uh, like I think oh, I don't know like if it's if you hold the card
Like does it mean that only you can open the link or how does it work? I haven't checked it out yet
Yes, I'm gonna put my referral links on mine
That's a great idea.
To be clear, I have not been able to get it to work in the UI yet for me,
but Nico said she saw it, that it worked.
And definitely, I have confirmed it is updated in the metadata,
so I'm sure that's going to be resolved, but go ahead.
Meta, what's the ticker for your Vibe Market collection?
I think
it's just Meta 8.
No, no, no, no. The ticker for
the islands.
Oh, okay. Shit.
Back with me.
It actually is Meta 8. Yeah,
it is. I'm watching
right now.
That's what I thought. Yeah, it is Meta 8. Yeah. Oh, okay. what i thought yeah it is meta yeah yeah oh okay i see
here okay cool all right uh yeah but um i don't think i've even bought any of that yet how does
that work like i thought you can only buy it when it's bonded no you can just search by it you can
search by it ah okay yeah yeah i see what you're saying yep let me see yep
hashtags are the new hashtags at the end of the day yeah bro these are sick cheers dude
but um yeah i mean you could also do like um like a syndicate collection like if you're working
with other creators you could be like well i'll put your link on on my cards or whatever so then more people see their collection
and vice versa bro it's genius bro like you can basically highlight collaborations like this too
bro you know it's like you can add more you can oh that would actually be something that would be
something how about doing packs in the future and a contract that has a collaboration?
Like split contract?
Bro, okay.
Sorry, I had another idea.
That made me head.
I'm going to make a new part next week when I get back to drawing and stuff.
It's going to be related. It's going to be about Greensiver
and it's going to be linked to his
art generator
on his
OK computer.
The messy perp fucking, what's it
called when two sisters are hooking up with each
other? Incest. I can't
handle the messy perp incest.
It's too much.
It's too much for a hardy motherfucker to endure.
Sorry to cut you off, Meta8, but you made me just think of that.
I'm going to dedicate a card.
He's not really sorry, Meta8, just so you know.
I'm not sorry.
He's a nice at ease.
Yo, so you know what I was going to say?
It's like, you know, right now we have cards, right?
But we have no description, bro.
There's no panel or anything that actually basically gives you a chance to even showcase lore or history or whatever you want to actually talk about in the piece, right?
Whatever it is, bro.
Maybe it's just memes, bro.
But I bet you anything, bro.
Ink probably spends so much thought and time and and like bro he probably has so much to say
about that piece right or like you know every piece probably like low ground like do you would
you not like you know have like things to say about like each piece yeah i i definitely got
and that's why i decided to cook like a separate website for it i'm like i'm gonna start working
on it soon but that would be a cool feature to like, yeah,
have some more like description
and shit on cards. Are you talking about that
site that you did a lot of ground with the
with the 3D stuff? That shit
was sick. I'm cooking it
different now right now. I want to use the webcam
so you can like rotate the
cards using your hands. That's like an
AR shit. And yeah,
I just want to make those like
just like weird and fun that's that's probably the best way this allows us to
do that this that's what this is huge like yeah the new technology is crazy. Also, I just sold like 50 bucks of Melted's card token.
You sick fuck.
Just hoping that that's enough to make it.
Melted's a sick fuck.
He can take it up the ass.
Dude, I've mastered the art of being able to fuck with Melton just enough to stay on his good side, though.
Because I do not want the wrath of Melton.
Same.
Same, I think.
I think I'm giving that.
No, I haven't mastered it.
I haven't mastered it.
You haven't mastered it.
Nah, nah, nah.
You have caught those fucking hands, bro.
Them shits are...
But I understand what you're saying.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
He's so funny, man. He fucking cracks me up. But I understand what you're saying. Yeah, you know what I mean.
He's so funny, man.
He fucking cracks me up.
Fucking melted, dude.
He has some of the people in the chat. The past two days, the melted Fernandez card, his baseball card.
It's so good.
It's so good.
I cannot stop laughing about it.
I don't know why they captured. It feels like it's real, dude. It's so good. I cannot stop laughing about it. I don't know why they captured...
It feels like it's real, dude.
It's so funny.
It's perfect.
Yeah, you know how I found my mythic?
I still remember. to believe me he's like yeah yeah like for my collection how i had to like i did it yeah yeah because i was just looking at uh
i was i was just looking at uh you're the one you sent sikasa um the mythic
i was like you know how I picked mine?
Like, I had no idea I was gonna pick any of them, bro.
Sarto was like, yo, you gotta like pick like 15 and shit.
And, you know, yeah, bro, it just happened.
Randomly, bro.
And now looking at it, bro, it's like, low-key,
it probably wasn't gonna be any other piece.
High-key, bro, this piece looks the same way.
Bro, when it clicks, you just like...
Bro, okay, okay, okay.
So look at the background.
Look at, bro, look at...
I don't even know if you want me to describe it, bro.
I'm not going to describe it.
I'm not going to do that to you, bro.
But you know what I mean.
Yeah, the... Yeah. Yeah, dude. It's sick, bro. It's sick. It's actually sick. going to describe it i'm not going to do that to you bro but you you know what i mean yeah the the
yeah yeah dude it's sick bro it's sick it's actually sick it's uh thanks man it's uh i'm
hyped man i want to spend another month on this bro i want i want every comment to be like um
just just something people want to hold on to we'll see maybe two months i don't know bro
i'm not mad at a long cook man i'm not mad at a long cook i'm i'm honestly i'm not worried about
like people holding on to like the mythics and stuff like that bro people who who actually sell
mythics and legendaries are actually cooked because like that i don't think they they actually understand like
how it scales when when it goes up like the market cap right now is nothing right nobody
like is paying attention to that they just like you know get excited as soon as they don't take
the hour eight and they cast the big dub but it's like bro if if vibe market actually scales up bro
bro these mythics are going to be probably like
in the same ballpark as baseball bro and like bro even the legendaries bro so it's like
dude you know yeah i i'm just so hyped that they added this this link ability man i think that
this is something that um is going to expand it.
Well,
I mean,
we'll see,
but I think it's perfect for what Star-Dole is doing.
Also like,
like green,
you got a bunch of okay computers,
that you,
that you built out,
right?
Like,
and this is the type of art that they generate.
Couldn't there be something with the collection you got,
to extending these out to those?
Yeah, bro.
Yeah.
I went and...
Sorry, that was my fat finger just making sure everyone was fucking on their toes.
Go ahead.
Sure.
Nice save.
Nice save.
You just wanted to mute a messy perp.
Just say it with your chest, man. No, dude. Like, I just wanted to mute a messy perp just say it with your chest man
no dude like i just gotta that's racist right you choose this purple hair don't even start
racist bro bro these are disgusting choices that you guys have made on your own autonomy bro
like these are things that you have elected to add to your identity okay anyways but
go ahead the floor is yours greenspur no i was just saying like me personally um i i could i could
add our generators to them but bro it's like i i wanna i wanna actually max out the 1,000, right? So it's like, that's going to be insane.
So me personally, even right now, I'm just thinking,
I'm like, what could I actually do that's actually scalable?
I could probably make every card have, at the very least,
have like a secondary art piece. I could do that at the very minimal,
right? Wait, have a secondary what? Secondary art piece. Like, like you can have the art piece
that has another art piece, right? Like, you know? Dude, like I have, you know, I try to do,
you know dude like i i have you know i try to do um but it's like i try to do things that that like
incentivize people people who are like down to ride you know whether it be with the memes or or
jungle bear whatever like long term right and like the people that like show over time they're down
like i want to make sure they have larger chunks and with this collection and we're with vibe market in general if you see you can see how long people are holding
what they hold on to like these are touch points to just like for like that's how you can you know
um fortify community like if people are showed that they're down they love to hold like
to be able to drop shit in in different ways to those addresses and and base making it so
easy banker making it so easy to do it it's it's such a fucking unlock um to be able to just have
that like extra layer of like community building to it too and i'm only saying community at fucking
one o'clock in the morning pacific time because i can't say it in daylight with a straight face because of how much these guys have used to work it's okay bro it's okay i don't think anybody is in their same
mind at this time hour anyways for anybody to care um it's like yeah dude yeah it's vibes yeah
it's vibes bro at the end of the day his vibes yeah his vibes bro you know yeah and so
you know what i was gonna say um so you know how you're talking about uh the addresses and
everything right i was thinking about the same thing and what i was actually thinking in specific
was uh the burnt cards bro um so you know it's like bro like burning is actually like useful
for the collection bro whether people like it or not.
Like, burning, like, if people actually genuinely just never burnt the commons, the collection would actually get screwed up, right?
So, it's like, I was thinking, I was just like, I wonder if we could actually, like, see.
Hold on, wait.
Can you explain that to me?
I'm genuinely asking because I don't fully understand.
Because, you know, you're burning, but it doesn't really,
if you're not technically burning and reducing supply,
you're kind of tucking it back to the beginning of the rotation, right?
But randomized, do either of you actually, or not actually,
but do either of you know?
Because I'm a little unclear on that piece still.
So you can't quote any of us, I would say, right?
Because we're all just retards, right?
But from my understanding, bro, it does burn it.
And I kind of like it, bro.
Me personally, my take is it's like people were crying about supply before, right? So Nico and the team did a really,
really great job of actually letting the free market decide what actually gets to stay
by introducing instant liquidity, right? So the, if like pieces are not, the common pieces are like,
most people are not going to like take the L and keep the peace, bro. They are going to, like, you know, just sell it or burn it, right?
And they're supposed to because basically otherwise, you know, you wouldn't get to the legendaries, bro.
People would just, like, just keep them, bro, you know?
But I hate to push back, but I'm just trying to actually play out what you said.
There's new people that come.
So the people that hold, right, like there's new people that are ripping packs.
So feasibly, if they're holding, then they're just keeping the floor, essentially.
They're not doing anything that's like positive or negative.
Well, it's not it's not it's more positive because it's not taking away liquidity. So it's not like without them, new people wouldn't be able to open packs.
And so it's like when you're, when you're on, when you're ripping packs and then burning them,
it seems like they're coming back in rotation in a different form.
Like the randomization might assign it as pristine or heavily played or
whatever. Right.
But you're still having these cards in the mix of the supply.
You're going to have, you're going to have them regardless, bro.
You're going to have them regardless. Cause think about it like this.
How many people are actually going to curate their collection this hard? Not many. You would hope
that at least the founder is though, right? Because think about it. At the post-bonding,
good luck, bro. Unless you're lucky enough to get a second chance bro but that'll that'll only happen if like people like get a somebody else gets a mythic and they sell that bro but i don't know bro i don't know like
like at the end of the day it's like i don't know yeah all i know is that my pack flipped
melted's packed and i bro what do you mean it's about 200x bro bro. But it's okay. So I can't, yeah.
I'm trolling him.
Yeah, I found my train of thought.
So, you know, if people keep everything, right,
what will end up happening is they'll actually sell their wins, and what they'll be left with is comments, bro, right?
And it'll actually take the majority of the liquidity out, right?
But it's like, I don't know, bro.
It's like, I'm...
You should do the opposite i agree with you
hold on hold on hold on i'm trying to agree with you and i can't grasp how what you're saying to
be like because think about it if you're saying that you're if you're selling comment or if you
keep if you're keeping comments that that doesn't that would essentially prevent people from getting
like those cards and new cards that's not true because people can mint as many as they want
right like you can rip as many packs as you want there's no like oh you're out like there's no more
packs left like that notification does not exist correct i i guess yeah so then i'm like well then is it is it is the burning essentially just
basically putting the the tokens back into the liquidity no not into the liquidity pool but
into the it's preserving the tokens it's you're basically transferring the form of them so instead
of a card it turns into
a hundred thousand tokens but the supply remains the same obviously because it's capped and the
but the the card itself i would imagine that there's not duplicates like if one card is in
play then it's being held like you can't have the exact same card then come out unless there's like
10 of that but then you can't have more you can't have an 11 same card then come out unless there's like 10 of that. But then you can't have more.
You can't have an 11th version of that card come out.
Right.
So you're essentially putting it back in the mix to be randomized and pulled by another person.
Right.
Yeah, I think so.
That logic is how I think about it.
A hundred percent. That logic is how I think about it, 100%. I would think there's probably infinite number of permutation and combination of how the cards actually get delivered, right?
And it probably happens uniquely every single time.
That is why, bro, that is why some decks have really, really hard time giving out Mythics,
is because it's actually truly
unique bro right and and and that's why it's like there's no real bro there's no real that like it
goes back to bro it's a completely unique every single pull bro because like traditionally there
would be a real bro because there would be a certain amount of supply right but here like each addition has
no finite supply determined like previously right even like the mythic you could have like
20 mythics one legendary three commons and like two rare and like four epics bro essentially in
a collection if if like that's how it ends up being, right? But the odds are, like, very, very slim.
That's never going to happen.
But it's, like...
Yeah, but if you pull one,
let's say you pull a fucking, you know,
a Rizzler, a fucking...
What's one of their fun baseball ones?
You know?
Rizzler Henderson?
Rizzler Henderson, right.
And Pristine and... Well, there's two now right okay two now right there's two but if you pull one that's pristine and then another four
people have the remaining right there's there's like let's say there's five right and they're
currently not all there's actually 10 in existence okay so 10 right you're not going to
pull an 11th until somebody chooses to burn one of those that's what i'm saying is that i don't know
if that's true though i think that's true because i think it's just like actually complete it's like
random it's like part of the algo like how does the supply thing work yeah that's i guess i'm still wrapping my head
around it there's just it's a matter of chance like there's like programmed in the smart contract
there's just like like a certain probability of pulling rares of pulling epics of pulling legendaries
of pulling commons and like and within that there could be a probability of which common, which rare, and which epic, etc.
So, that's the whole game of it.
You can have duplicates of rarity and wear, right?
Like, for example, I'm actually crazy.
Not all Rizzler Hendersons are the same.
I have three of the same legendary, bro.
Fuck me, right?
I have three of the exact same legendary,
and two of them are the same wear.
One of them is a different wear.
Wait, on your collection?
Yeah.
Well, because you have 10, right, on your collection?
I have 11 now.
Jesus Christ. But anyway, they have different traits in the metadata have 10, right? I have 11 now. Jesus Christ.
But anyway, they have different
traits in the metadata, though, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Everything is obviously unique, right?
It's not that different.
So remember, Green, how when we were first
getting all nerdy about, okay,
computers, and people were like,
oh my god, wait, there's some duplicates in here
like some and it's like but wait like you know you look into it and the inside of the computer
is actually a little bit different um because the beeps and boops and whatnot right like and
the you can look at the inside of the computer and it turns out they're actually not the same yeah dude it like
here there's like so much more to right like you could have like yeah i just mean that as like to
draw a comparison one has like a foil where it has like a prized foil right like what are you
gonna do then bro i got a pristine and a foil yesterday bro i was so happy have you ever gotten
a prized foil dude no dude no i still don't i still you ever gotten a prize foil, dude? No, dude.
I still have never gotten a prize foil.
I didn't even know those existed.
They do.
They're really rare.
I kind of really want to get one.
Think about this, bro.
Of anything.
I don't care what it is.
Bro, I got a few.
I got a few of those, actually.
Those are shiniest now. Don't sell them, bro. Don't sell them. You know, imagine. I don't care what it is. Bro, I got a few. I got a few of those, actually. Those are shiniest now.
Don't sell them, bro.
Don't sell them.
You know, imagine.
I know.
I never sell those.
Somebody like Robotnik finds a prize foil and sells it, bro.
Bro, I was just going to say that.
That's so funny.
That's what happens to the prize foils, bro.
That's what happens, bro.
But that's why you have to educate everybody, bro.
Because they are going to sell, bro.
Everybody is going to sell, bro.
Because you have to sell, bro. Because they are going to sell, bro. Everybody is going to sell, bro. Because you have to sell, bro.
Right?
But if you just choose to sell everything besides Pristine, bro, you'll help the collection, bro.
Bro, there was a thing.
They launched, like, on the first couple of weeks, they launched, like, a tournament to open the first foil Legendary.
And there was the guy who did it and he like sold
it insta salt like he did it like just open that's why immediately and he could have claimed like
some some eth for that and he was just like insta selling it was crazy we were like damn what the
i wonder i wonder if they can control like if they can do special things like this.
I bet they can.
I bet they can.
One of the things about the fact that they really haven't cracked out of the, you know, rarity for liquidity piece into the secondary is, like, it's clear that this is going to grow there.
You know what I mean?
Like, that foil thing was
obviously intentional obviously doesn't have like a proper function yet but is i mean it just seems
so like it's such a cool element of it that just they haven't really added i think people see the
foil they're like all right well i there's no actual i mean
this is what i said i was like there's no monetary value to this i'm trying to fucking
get more packs right and so you just kind of chuck it to the side but damn man they're the
it's it's just put that put that put that in perspective with like anybody who's bought
nfts traditionally and like we've like like focused on like traits and shit like even like
let's talk about em efforts for example like you've got a hoodie em ever right like and that's
like that is like highly valued in that like context right but like what the what the
like that premise is based on nothing except metadata well Well, it's just... Not that it's not nothing.
It's objectively just better, right?
It's just better.
Okay, there you go.
That's what I'm...
Actually, that was my next part of it, though,
is to say that, like, okay,
there's a lot less of them.
They're rarities.
So, like, this is like a hybrid thing.
It's like all it takes is this to pick up enough
and then...
Whoa, wait a second second what's the rarity
on your fucking purples okay it's not they're actually pretty rare but that's something that
doesn't help my point nobody wants these fucking mutts bro that fine yeah exactly like that that
that helps that works with my with the point i'm trying to make right is that like is that like
there's no bond there's no fucking instant liquidity on my Purple Messi, though, versus your hoodie, right?
That is completely dependent on having buyers on the other end, right?
So in the fact that I don't think this is like people,
I genuinely don't think that people have wrapped their heads around this yet.
Yeah, I agree.
Is that Vive Market allows for both of
these dynamics to come into play yeah like he turned it all 3d dude it's like literally like
you get the best of both you get the best of both worlds 100 like it's and and we just have like i
don't think it's clicked like i think people are too stupid like and all these people do that i
like genuinely like to listen to them.
I think they're like pretty tapped into the market.
They explore different metas.
Nobody has heard about Vibe Market yet.
It's crazy to me.
It's fucking crazy.
It's crazy, dude.
It's really, really like it.
How the fuck was I?
Am I so early?
I felt like I hated Vibe Market.
I felt I honestly feel like i like was late like
because i bro bro log round i was literally telling you all since like i know exactly
low ground and nico and like some other people were dming me on barcaster like three times i
was such a dude i was i was like four months ago god damn i
look back at my dms i'm like this motherfucker bro and i was literally like i was literally like
i'm too distracted with like what's going on with banker right now to like like that sounds cool and
i was sort of like like i was like like my response is like i'm too distracted but like this sounds
cool and hopefully i'll get a chance to check it out.
But like, I don't have the bandwidth right now.
And then like a, like a few months later, like I checked this shit out and I'm like, this is amazing.
And I feel late, but like the reality is like, nobody still knows about this. Like, how is that possible?
How is that possible?
Even with, even with banker, dude, even with banker fucking possible? Even with Banker, dude.
Even with Banker, even with, like, you know.
Yeah, even with Banker or whatever.
DRB, all these things.
Like, people still knew about them, right? They chose to maybe look at other stuff.
But legitimately, no one is aware of what Vibe Market is right now,
which is just so, so crazy.
What do you think is the strategy let's just cut
to the chase with ccosco because like let's fucking do this work like i mean you're the
you're the strategy guy you're the guy that actually you know how to actually connect with
like the broader like well i don't i think i think so what do you think is the spaces are fun
right and i think like i did a couple of us can extend to different like uh you know
pockets where they don't usually mess with the stick figures as much you know we're all in our
own little fucking zone here right but i do think like when the sales start getting bigger like you
know i was talking about potentially selling the baseball legendary and open and like buying back
but just to have that noise kind of reverberate
of like yo this this fucking card just sold for six figures on vibe market like what the fuck is
vibe market you know i mean like those things well this is something low ground can speak to
what was the sale on piponis wagner when that happened damn i don't really remember the numbers
but like all i can say that those numbers like brought a
bunch of people when the people were getting free packs from like from baseball from nico
there were there was like something just comment just drop your eddie and i'm gonna throw you like
a couple of of those packs and like people saw this like they got the packs they sold immediately then they saw
the numbers and it was kind of crazy thing that was like made it viral like all of you heard about
this like you some of you even participated but even like some random people were like attached
to it they never like entered the chat like they got the packs there was this guy he got the pack
and he sold it at 4k because he absolutely forgot that he even was getting it.
And that's the craziest part.
Whether we like it or not, the Muppets follow green candles only, right?
So it doesn't really matter where it is.
They're kind of agnostic to it almost.
Well, here's what I'm thinking, and I think this is actually maybe important, is that what I would suggest, because you've been teasing the idea of selling your legendary
uh see but i won't do it before no no but which is intriguing to me let's just think about it
but i won't do it what if i think because i don't i think maybe more profoundly would be the
prospect of that being an otc deal like imagine you found a buyer uh but rather than selling it here's my problem with that
that's what happened with the myth here's my problem with that right you you're you're not
using the market for its function the function is what the price of the value shown is the
liquidity on demand which is the fundamental like the the major it's a good flaw of nfts
you see a good place but you're really not always getting that you're getting whatever
wheat price and it's usually fucking you know a lot lower than what it is right so i think the
fact that people can having the the connection where they can activate liquidity at the price shown there is a very different dynamic
that it should be highlighted and elevated i think and so when you're able to pull a six figure win
like and i do all i would do is buy back the fucking baseball cards right like but i think
that that noise generated um it's powerful when you when you sell buy a card for fucking whatever and then you and then
you uh and then you fucking you know sell it for six figures dude uh i think i bought that shit
for like 3k or whatever right like that's that's a come up in a two two and a half weeks three
weeks bro that i think that will have people say i like that take i like that take and um honestly i'll be
holding some youth in the case in the case that you decide to do that to buy a baseball pack
but uh i like that i'm gonna buy back the fuck out of that floor bro i hope everyone like that
the reason i feel confident dude you know i'm not one to dump charts like i'll hold through the
painful fucking long term.
But for that one, I feel like there's so many people that genuinely want more exposure to the baseball cards.
Where it's like, it could be a really fun way to kind of, A, test results of the existing holders.
And B, give entry points to people that just can't afford to buy them at the current level
and also there's so interesting it's so interesting like that scenario to me is just like
oh my god bro the mechanics is a of vibe market is actually insane too right like i'm telling you
bro there's a method to my madness like the, the burning thing is actually, like, low-key works.
Because think about it.
The moment you burn the legendary, right?
Like, what are the odds?
Like, actually think about it, bro.
Like, think about it.
How many cards do you actually have to pull for you to even get a legendary, bro?
Probably 100, right?
Like, what's the...
Yeah.
Well, dude, I think... think no so what we're talking
about is actually a sacrifice like ckasa would be low-key like be making a sacrifice because
i would be buying back with the proceeds i would be i know i don't know but like but like let's
pretend like even if you didn't have to buy back, bro, like what the fuck, you know? So I'm saying like, imagine, right?
The next legendary for it to get pulled, right?
At least a hundred packs have to be bought, bro, right?
Other than that, the next legendary probably not getting pulled, bro.
That's what the odds are, bro.
That's just, dude, that's bullish, right?
That's totally bullish.
Yeah, yeah.
That's mega bullish.
Like, you know the mechanics
of vibe market make it so that as soon as the collection actually bro gets volume the cards
get open bro it's it's literally up bro right because think about it bro the next legendary
not coming out bro right like go look at the statistics for how
many legendaries of baseball exist bro right so for the next legendary before it comes out bro
100 packs at least have to get bought bro right people can buy the token bro but the
hang on you asked a question let's check the numbers yeah yeah the next legend um baseball
cards like 100 there's only actually holy fuck, it's the only legendary.
And then Mythic is held by what's-his-face Brady, that was sold in an OTC deal, right?
Is that correct, Hello Ground?
I think.
Actually, he gave it up to the platform, I think.
So, Nico.
Okay, so by market, it's cell phones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, at cell phones. Yeah, yeah Yeah, so like that's like fucking lockdown and there's fucking there's been 11 in all of its history
There's been 11 legendaries sold 12 ever pulled
one active and I
And that's held by C Casa
so like right now in the in the current scenario the like like c casa is at on is like at the at
So like right now in the in the current scenario
plate like you know like but and like i really i genuinely don't think though that it it has the
same effect anything under six figures i just don't like i don't i i just think like from the
i think what happens if you do that i honestly i think what happens if you do that, honestly, I think what happens if you were to just burn it,
is that the price, you get a big...
Well, no, selling it is burning it.
No, no, no, no.
There's a big difference.
Burning...
No, there's not.
Not in this.
Yes, it is.
I checked.
I checked.
Okay, let's break it down.
Let's slow down and break this down.
Let me tell you down here's here's
here's my logic and i i vetted this i talked to more lockers about it as well as nico and and j and
jd or jc um so basically basically with burning it a the artist gets nothing right b the it doesn't
affect the liquidity pool at all essentially i just get a ton of tokens of
the native token whereas burning it selling it the artist gets the creator reward proceeds
seven percent of that and then all of the fucking proceeds of the buybacks all the way back up right allow me to clarify okay because
because what i meant by burning is is just selling into the bonding curve whether it's in tokens or
underneath um because either way because because what the reason i use the term burn there is
because that particular card goes out of circulation forever i see what you mean um
if that makes sense so that's why that's the sense in which i mean just to clarify if i'm
if i'm not mistaken it just goes not not that card like somebody else could potentially pull it
but like you you but you are putting it out of circulation like if you look at the stats on on
vibe market right now there's one legendary that's
active it would turn into a sold one and there would no longer that card would no longer become
super bullish because then people are like no one can dump if the buyers come and step in like there
would be a big dump candle but i for one i would i if I was awake and aware of this happening at the time, which hopefully I would be, I would certainly buy a baseball pack.
And I hold baseball tokens for full disclosure.
Yeah.
Same.
And so that would be a really interesting scenario.
That's all.
Just to clarify what I meant by burning.
No, that's all. Just to clarify what I meant by burning. No, that makes sense. I guess my only issue is that I don't necessarily see it as burning.
Because when I think of burn, I think permanently deleted.
I think out of supply, out of circulation.
We have to throw all of our old conceptions about NFTs out the window.
But it's not just NFTs.
That specific term applies to removing from supply.
I have a question.
You're decreasing supply.
Supply is a concept we need to fucking overcome with this.
It isn't.
I guess it is in this case.
No, no, no.
Because supply, because of the nature of it being on a bonding curve is what I mean to say.
But okay, let's talk about that for a sec.
If you have a token that goes on a bonding curve, right, eventually, like, you're going to have a cap supply once it bonds.
Once it migrates.
Sort of.
No, 100%.
No, it's more like a range.
No, it's not, dude.
Any token that
fucking bonds bonds what is the cop what is the top what is the cap supply so for example with
clanker let's talk about clanker token right like once it's deployed clankers have nothing to do
with bonding curves okay let's talk about pump fun right okay i'm fun i think it's a billion
a hundred billion tokens something like that um that that it gets
popular maybe it's a set supply that you can set the dev can set i don't know i don't fuck around
on fun but i do know that it's a cap supply for sure because like if you look at brainlit or you
look at any of these a if you even riz right because with Riz, that was a pump fund token that we bought after some other fucking group had come in, pumped it, dumped it, and it was on the ground for fucking months, right?
And we were like, this is a dope meme, and let's just buy it up when it's low and cook, right?
And so every time I burn Riz, it automatically decreases the supply on dex tools so it go at any particular moment but
not the potential supply no dude it's a cap supply there's no new supply no that's not the case no
no i promise you it's here let me go to the room i don't think we're understanding i don't think
you're understanding i don't think you're understanding. I don't think you're understanding. I don't think you're understanding.
I'm pulling up Riz right now.
Okay, just as an example.
I clearly not understand anything.
I think you do. I think you do.
Yeah, I think it's to think in terms of supply is not useful.
Okay, 100 million circulating supply for Riz, right?
The contract has been renounced.
There's no way that new supply is generated.
It is a supply pool of 100 million.
What I'm trying to explain is that with baseball cards and this
is what i learned about with like far cards and shit when i tinkered around with that stuff back
on on is that like when we're talking about like nfts connected to a bonding curve the concept of
supply is relative because it just matters like what like the only the the what's impacted
when you buy or sell.
But that's pre-bond, bro.
That's pre-bond.
No, it's the same post-bond.
No way.
I'm telling you, bro, it's not.
There's no chance that that's true.
It's just not.
The JPEGs are a bit different, though.
Like the tokens. let's talk let's
talk fucking jungle bay nfts 5,565 i think it is the same i mean i genuinely am trying to understand
wrap my head around this particular question because think about it like this the tokens
um like all the pump funds they have the same supply yeah exactly or like yeah yeah so it's a it's a predetermined
supply but for these nfts bro like nobody really knows supply and like you're burning
you can state a range yeah yeah there's definitely a range you know the supply guys look go look at
park go look at bsbl what is the range so here let's pull up park let's pull that's probably
the best i'm sorry to supply probably the best example right so park um let's do it i'm pulling it up right now so park uh
it's not south park it's meme park right yeah mean park it's mean park it's p-a-r-k
so here the supply okay because look 1 billion supply i would imagine every single token that gets minted from uh vibe market
well i'm sorry that gets bonded from buy market has a billion supply you cannot make more it does
not make more i promise you if you were to yeah you can also not you i don't think you can burn
either because because because on the bonding curve they can be reminted so like buying is minting and selling is burning
no dude i'm telling you you don't know okay that's the basic premise okay so okay here's
the difference here's the difference it i think this is where we're we're catching like a different
um maybe it's just the the way we're to be clear i'm not trying to argue i'm genuinely trying to
wrap my head around this so correct information in an easily digestible way.
So here's the difference.
If I take my PARC tokens and I send them to the burn address for the base burn address, It will decurulating supply.
That's correct.
And that is burn in a completely different meaning.
But if I burn my token, if I burn my cards, all I'm doing is putting 100,000 tokens, or if it's an epic fucking 340,000 tokens.
Back into the bonding.
Back into the circulating supply.
Yes. Cool. Yes.
Yes.
So it's like they've segmented the cards as their own LP,
as their own supply clusters.
And then if once those are released,
they're not burned in the way that burn has been used, right?
They're, they're just going back into the token supply.
So that's actually exactly what
i was trying to say like and so like i actually think the term burn is like super outdated because
like the fact is like when you we say we're burning something you're actually just sending
it to an address that's not capable of buying or selling anything but that's a that's it like
it still exists it's just in an it's just in a wallet
because it's no no no technically speaking it's in a wallet that's in it it's inaccessible they
still exist but but it's out of it's out of circulating supply in perpetuity there's there's
verifiably effectively yes technically no why no? Because it still exists. That's a wallet like any other wallet.
Right, but it's a wallet that someone has lost the keys to because the keys have been burned.
Correct. So effectively, that's what I mean by effectively. Effectively, no.
Technically, there's no way to retrieve those tokens.
If anybody has that keys wallet, then they can still access it.
You can verify that those keys have been fucking shipped out to the burn address too or whatever, right?
Yes.
So I'm just quibbling over the term burn here to try to help understand what we're doing.
When I meant burn, I'm talking with respect to the bonding curve.
Yeah, and I think that there should be a different, like, whether it's recirculated.
Yeah, and I think that there should be a different, like whether it's recirculated.
It's obviously not as fun mimetically of a word, but I do think burn still holds a lot of weight because it actually can fundamentally change the supply in relation to demand.
That's why I just think it's not insignificant. There is literally no difference between sending tokens to the burn address
than sending tokens to me on a wallet where I lost my seed phrase
and nobody else can find it is all I'm trying to say.
Well, the only difference is DexTools or any of the Dexes
actually have an association with the burn address yeah and i'm saying i'm saying like
like fuck dextuals fuck all any of these like third-party interfaces and like here's my problem
sorry no because that test actually useful here's my problem my problem is that that has a
like it literally changes the dynamic of the supply demand ratio compared to if you were to call a burn burning a card,
that that does not technically or fucking effectively change the supply-demand dynamic.
It effectively changes the supply-demand, but it doesn't technically. No, it does not. Is what I'm trying to say. It effectively changes the supply to man, but it doesn't technically.
No, it does not.
It doesn't.
No, I'm thinking,
what I'm suggesting is that we need to, like,
reframe our mental model because things are evolving.
Yeah.
I just, I think that there should be a distinction
in what is called burning.
It honestly doesn't matter.
What we're trying to talk about is the distinction
between buying and selling on the bonding curve.
It matters to me because when I came into this, I thought it was being burned, and then that would take away supply.
So only a certain amount of cards.
Instead of fucking 5,000 cards, you burn 10 cards.
I remember that, and you were wrong, actually.
Right, I was wrong.
In terms of the sense in which we were talking to burn.
That's not burning.
When we were saying burn, we were talking about selling.
No, but it is burning in terms of that card is being burned.
It's recirculating.
There's a huge difference, dude.
It's not being recirculating because it's up to probability that it ever comes back to circulation again.
So, for example, with the baseball cards you can retire cards so
like if somebody burned a uh what's an example of a retired one low ground um is rizzler retired yet
uh me uh what's his name mr rayner has has retired uh yeah he's retired yeah on
so like that's more of the sense we're talking about burning like if the cards aren't even retired by the artist i would say that is more so yeah that's why we're here
we're just quibbling over vocabulary yeah kind of i i don't think that you're you know the the
minimizing of the quibble there actually is is sticks because i think what you just said with
mr rare or like what what that does is very different. That is an effective burn.
When you're taking that car,
that's the new way we're talking about burn is what I'm saying.
I am going to smash my fucking phone on my head.
I can't wait.
I am just.
Okay.
Okay.
Just to distract this conversation,
bro.
So check this.
I was thinking about this.
I'm like a mythic is 18 and a half
million uh coins right guys damn right and uh legendary is 3.4 or something right yeah 40 40
x something something like that right i think legendary is is it 40 is it uh here i can tell
you well whatever keep going i don't want to fuck up the flow no no you're good
dude but i was gonna say basically it's like essentially you get the same amount of tokens
from like let's say 185 packs right 185 yeah i actually want to i'm gonna check this now because
i'm actually curious exactly how many it corresponds to a certain number of tokens
and that's the whole point that i'm trying to get out of here.
Your point is fucking missing a huge piece.
Go ahead, screensaver.
But you can't help me.
Let's make sure the numbers are good, bro, because otherwise...
Yeah, I'm looking it up right now.
I'm pulling up this fucking dank-ass fucking legend.
I got it right here.
Mr. Fucking Bigglesworth.
I'm buying more Park.
Fuck you guys.
I love Park. Okay, hold on,lesworth. I'm buying more park. Fuck you guys. I love park.
Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Um, so it says, wait, whoa, dude, they got,
they got a fucking, they got my, okay, hold on. They had a, a comment showing on my thing. Okay, legendary. Here you go. I was like, yo, what?
I was like, wait a second.
I just saw that Cabal is at $178, and I just spit out my drink.
Is it really?
Yeah, dude.
Okay, so right now.
I'm not exposed, really.
In baseball, if I were to sell it, it's only $3.7 million.
So that's only the same as 37 cards.
So, yeah, exactly.
So my point to you is, like, have you guys popped 37 cards of any collection yet?
All the time, bro.
What do you mean?
Yeah, so do you get a legendary every 37 cards or no, bro?
That's the answer.
So the answer is no, you don't, bro.
So does it make sense to sell
your card for your tokens no you would rather just buy like 37 packs and then sell them for tokens
if you really really wanted the tokens or you would just not if you get lucky dude if you pull
20 or like let's say 10 epics that's the same as fucking uh 30 that that's the 12 epics that's the same as fucking uh 30 that that's 12 epics that's the same as one legendary
yes my my point is basically bro as the curve like the price goes parabolically up right because
it is at the end of the day a low liquidity environment right it actually pays you to hold
the legendary card bro because the tokens is like whatever bro the tokens is whatever bro
the card like i don't know how it actually works bro no but check this out check this out for look
if i got if i get if i sell for for uh 3.7 million tokens and then the price of the card and i don't
affect here here's the difference okay this is a huge difference that shouldn't be overlooked if i sell for 3.3.7 million
tokens of baseball tokens right at 2200 a pack which is 2200 for 100 000 tokens essentially right
and the price of the cards goes back to 4300 then that 3.7 million that I'm still holding, that doubles as well, right?
It does.
So what?
Dude, if you sold the legendary back into tokens,
is that what you just said?
Yeah.
Then it wouldn't affect the price at all.
Exactly.
So you're not taking down the price of the value of the tokens.
Yeah, and you could just buy back packs.
And you could still sell
a little take a little profit too but but from what i'm gathering and i'll no it wouldn't cause
any havoc i've done it wouldn't cut it wouldn't cut it doesn't even affect it one penny it doesn't
affect it one penny bro i wouldn't even get i wouldn't even get my like entry like on that scenario yeah
that's what's so interesting about the choices you can make with all of these man like that's
exactly yes is the dollar value the same like the dollar value just just correlates with the
with the dollar value of an unopened pack i mean it might be slight like slight slight difference
because of like the fees or whatever but like outside of that like it's the same like yeah
i would say i would say if you're if you're like opening packs in hopes of getting legendaries
and if you're not speculating like what's inside your pack then yeah sure but if you're actually
opening packs bro then it makes no sense to, like, sell your legendaries.
Because, bro, I'm telling you, 37 packs do not produce a legendary, bro.
Right, but...
No, but, like, well, sometimes they do.
Sometimes they do.
I got, like, dude, this one I did today, I got, like...
It depends on if God's on your side or not.
I got five or six legendaries in the first bowl.
Bro, send God to my side, bro, please.
Dude, whatever this baseball, like, vampire
pack thing was today, I got
five or six legendaries in the first hundred.
Dude, I got a leggy on a
three-pole of a tarot
the other night, and I only ever
do one-pulls on tarots.
I just got lucky
that time, you know?
Yeah, and that's the fun of now burn it that's the fun of randomization Nah, dude, I sent it to my vault low ground you can actually you know
Like low ground I'll do whatever you want me to do with it to be honest
You can like keep me posted but like I'm no rush. Oh up to you. I don't care
It's all yours.
I've got that locked up with my fucking Draco Pepe
and my fucking...
Damn, the Draco Pepe is heavy.
My fucking Brain Billions
legendary, too, from the
meme Rare Inks.
This is fun, man man I love live market
bro it's actually kind of fun
because like
this shit will bring everyone together
I'm telling you
bro so
this shit actually makes me think bro
it's actually so much fun
what do you think
the platform's hope is
or what goal was when they actually created this?
Don't you guys think that they actually expect collections to bond and see what actually happens?
You know how we're just speculating, oh, what might happen with the OTC or whatever?
You know what I'm...
Sorry.
Yeah, you go first.
I said my thought was to go back
to my DMs from Farcaster
from Nico
and I'm gonna see...
Okay, yeah.
August 7th, 19...
Sorry, not 9th.
2025.
That was...
When was August? How many months ago was that?
Fucking one
I wanted to say a few bro
Oh it wasn't that long ago
Okay
that's when, okay nevermind
I was looking for something different
because there was one time before
earlier than that
when she was like
told me like yo i'm gonna build this thing and i'm gonna fix nfts and i was just kind of like okay
like that sounds cool i'll check it out later she kind of did but but then like a few months later
it's like i'm like holy she was not kidding yeah she cooked bro but well yeah the first the first thing like it's still
alpha like we still early and there's not many like huge cases those are all just like super
local not not like worldwide stuff and also it was like super hard to bond initially like uh the
price was different the the amount of packs was different
like that that were it should have been bought to to bond so now it's kind of all being tested
and they kind of adjusting things to to make things work so i kind of like feel there's a
a lot more coming because they were saying that they're gonna make some social stuff like Probably artists gonna have their own pages and shit like so this thing is gonna like grow
Incredibly big I think if they're gonna keep cooking the way they cook right now
But they're like doing great job according to the coding and shit
They like solving all this shit super fast and like doing a bunch of dope stuff so i think it's gonna grow like a lot
bro i was complaining about like how you can't like you know zoom in on the picture and shit bro
yeah yeah yeah you can bro bro i can't believe it was like two days later they were like okay
we should this and the animation is so smooth right now i like it that's that's one of the things that
these guys continue to do is like i always think of like oh it would be dope if if you know the
buy and sell toggle was there and like next day it's up like it's just like they they just they
ship so effectively man yeah it's vibes bro it's actually vibes so and i think sorry there's just one more thing uh i think that
they accumulating those fees like from from trading that coming to the platform and they
use those in pretty effective ways like going viral with things like this cable shit like
they bought like a thousand and sent it to some dude that was like sending those randomly to people and they they
pumped this shit just to make it like uh you know crazy marketing like some crazy weird stuff going
on on the platform and people are like damn is fucking nuts yeah yeah this this approach is just
like some fresh air in this like boring like open sea grinding meta and all this shit this feels like something like
attention attention catchy thing so i think they got a lot of like pretty dope stuff coming in so
i have no worries about like the future of the platform they're gonna grow this shit
yeah i agree and like you see jesse and like some of these even the player that like he clearly are
aware of it and like we're responding to it and stuff and it's just like these are the right people
that you want to to be bullish on it too you know yeah bro dude cabal is at 180 right now it's flying that's insane
i actually i don't have any i missed like when they were given away like
or i bought a little i bought like a hundred dollars or something of the token like a few
days ago so i guess i'm up on that but like fuck that's crazy it's crazy but it's awesome it's like i don't like it's like amazing rather
than feeling like oh my goodness it's just like holy shit like we are we are making headways like
you know it but basically it goes to show like how like in a low liquidity environment bro tokens just fly
bro when they get a little bit of attention bro so what happens when like a bunch of attention
actually shows up bro that means everything starts flying and it actually starts flying
like real deal bro you know and it's it's like bro it brings more attention, bro. You know? And it's important to have these alpha testing, you know, windows.
Because you really want that first impression to slap for anyone that's new.
That it doesn't have the, you know, understanding that shit has kings to it, you know?
First impressions are key, bro.
Imagine, like, people show up, bro, and they're all tilt as fuck, bro.
Bro, they're gonna fucking touch everything, bro. Imagine people show up, bro, and they're all tilt as fuck, bro. They're going to fucking
touch everything, bro. But if they show up and they have a good experience, bro,
it's going to flourish, bro. So the kinks actually getting sorted out right now is actually
blessings, bro. Alpha stage, let's go, bro. Beta next, bro. Send it higher go bro beta next bro send it higher bro but anyways so i was gonna
say um you know like uh obviously we're gonna see tokens flying right but you know i i feel like
open sea will also like show some sort of interest bro you know as uh as volume does pick up i will
see they'll be forced to i mean they'll be fucking stupid not to. No, they will, bro.
It's pump fun for NFTs, bro.
Has this been done before?
No, but that doesn't mean open...
Has this been done before is not a question to me.
Yeah, I've seen plenty of shit that's never been done before
that has not been embraced by the big players.
But no, this is actually sick bro and it is being embraced bro it is being embraced bro i mean not by like
you know we'll see we'll see i don't give a fuck i honestly don't give a fuck yeah i don't give a
fuck either bro bro i don't care bro it's like it's fine i seen it bro i was i was on it bro i was like bro like you know
how like you guys are saying like oh we've seen it we're just like oh we'll get to it but i didn't
waste no time bro i've seen it i'm on it bro that's it bro well no the moment that i actually
like from the moment i first opened a pack it was like like hit like crack man like you know what crack feels like no not really but you know
that's just an expression but yeah no no i opened a pack and i'm just like yeah this is this is
actually obviously like this is proper you know just because bro it's it's it was it was a lot
of thought put into it, bro.
The sounds, I'm telling you, it's not normal, bro.
The sounds, everything.
Those are multi-layered fucking slappers.
Yeah, yeah.
It taps into your brain, bro.
It taps into your brain.
I want to rip some bullshit right now.
Yeah.
Let's see.
What's the funniest cheapo pack right now at the moment?
I'm going silent for a sec. I could either rug this bitch or I can just stay on mute for a second while you guys chop it up.
I don't care.
I don't care either.
Oh, the alien cards.
Dude, they're 80 cents right now.
All right, I'm going to mute for a sec.
Let's do 11 alien cards.
Ultimate truth.
Bro, this artist is actually crazy.
I know.
I opened his Twitter page.
They're good, right?
He got such crazy stuff.
He's insane.
I think they're really good.
They're an awesome picture.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's insane.
I'm going to do it.
I just bought 11 for $8.
I spent $8 right now.
The new pack is like, right?
They basically, they fix your itch and allow you an opportunity to actually, like, go out there and curate for what you actually want to curate, bro.
I got all commons. Oh, I should curate. That's actually want to curate, bro? I got all comments.
Oh, I should curate.
That's what would have happened.
On a
team line pack start, aren't you glad
it happened here?
Yeah, of course. That was vibes as fuck.
It's worth the $8.
Dude,
C-Costa, I can see him on the
fucking side thing.
He is just ripping baseball cabals.
Maybe I should do some of those.
I think that's what he wanted to go do.
I have some I haven't opened yet.
He's going on an opening spree right now.
Let's go.
Also, I need to burn...
I have a feeling about the baseball cabal cards, bro.
I do, too.
I did, too.
They're actually...
I was looking at them closer and similar feeling about the baseball. Like, they took did i did too they're actually i was looking at them closer
and similar feeling about the baseball like they took me a while to sink in like how
high quality they are but even though yeah it appears like the baseball cabal like it just
appears like as like kind of like chat gbt like ai generated stuff when you look closer it's like
holy like like that's like not easy to do like even
with like it like not only like it's it's on point and like if you've actually played with
like ai like it's not easy to get those kinds of like high quality results like you're looking for
like it's pretty fucking impressive um i don't know maybe i just suck at it but
no you know what let's rip some i feel like i'm live streaming right now like one of the streamers
let's do some okay so sorry i think you actually hit the nail on this one so i was thinking i'm
like bro we we gotta figure out a solution for this live streaming because straight up bro, I actually think that the card opening thing is actually very, very addictive.
And a lot of people do actually want to see it, bro.
Discord, Discord, not really a good solution, bro.
Shit.
We got to find a different solution.
I saw the ledgy.
Like, it's, I'm not going to get it because I, okay, I did get an Epic.
Pepe Inks.
I got the ET one.
You got any of those?
Dude, y'all motherfuckers are lagging
because I am becoming...
I'm getting tired of becoming such a whale
on the fucking...
Bro, you're not a whale.
You're just a hoarder, bro.
No, dude, I've been opening them every fucking night.
Let me see how many I have. Let me see how many I have. Like, fucking challengeer, bro. No, dude, I've been opening them every fucking night. Let me see how many I have.
Let me see how many I have.
Like, fucking challenge me, bro.
Like, I'll rip them all.
I will rip every single one, I swear to God.
And burn all my commons if you keep giving me a hard time.
Let's see.
You gotta basically keep pristine and foils.
I do.
I do exactly as you preach, motherfucker.
And you keep talking to me like I'm some
kind of just, like, sniper
hoarder. Yes. When I've been...
No. Let me see.
Let's see what I have.
Ink. Pepe's.
Ink rare cards I've kind of
hoarded. Okay, I have 17
right now, but I have a total of...
I have 17 unopened should i open them all
now you i will one by one i'll no i'll do a three by three because you okay do seven by seven
or two by two or two by two
I'm gonna pay ink cards or get rec later.
Try later.
That's crazy, bro.
Yeah, dude.
Harmony Wildin', bro.
Fuck yeah.
Oh, no.
I got two comments that suck.
But I got two.
I'm gonna open them all just to prove a point.
One by one, bro.
Because he's a little wiener.
No, bro, I'm telling you, bro, you gotta make your...
Fine, I'll do it one by one.
I'll just, like, sit here and I'll do it one by one.
I'll stay up all night.
No, no, no, you ain't gotta stay up all night.
You know what I do sometimes?
It's already 3 a.m. for some shit.
I skip it sometimes, bro.
The whole animation.
Do you have any tapping superstition theories?
Oh, Harmony is there.
Oh, I just pulled a
Sardo.
I love pulling myself.
It's the best feeling.
I'm gonna burn it because I have dupes.
I know, I burned them too, unless they're pristine.
Well, I'm gonna open them all because I have dupes. I know, I burned them too, unless they're pristine. Well, I'm going to open them all first.
Because, fuck you.
Like, I'm going to open it.
I'm going to open every single one of my Pepe, uh, ink Pepe's.
Because I know he's actually, I think he's done with this collection too.
I think it's completed, so I might as well just open them all.
I'm not trying to fucking just snipe and dump on you fuckers.
I want to get the fucking, I want to get the best shit.
But aren't you trying to get a mythic?
Like, I don't even...
I want to...
No, there is no mythic in this, dude.
This is a pre-mythic deck.
You got legendary then?
Don't you want to get a legendary?
I have not got the legendary yet on this one.
That's why I open them every night.
There you go.
I got a fucking common, and it's looking at me like I'm an idiot.
It's telling you to keep going.
Are you going to keep going?
Green, you're the king of telling people
to open decks and then
I find out you're telling other people
not to open decks.
I'm going to get the legendary finally on this.
It's going to happen tonight.
Harmony is a tough battle, man.
It's a tough battle.
Another common.
Just blowing away money right now.
Some packs you don't want to open.
Like for me, right now, I'm trying to open my packs.
Because I'm trying to get that mythic, bro, before somebody else.
Green tried to make me feel like I was being greedy or something by not opening facts
So right now I'm trying to prove a point that I don't give a fuck
Yeah, yeah
I got an epic
We don't believe you
We don't believe you
Dude, I'll fucking
How much is it worth?
I'll fucking share every single one of these too
This is actually such a crazy platform, bro.
I can see your pulls being pulled live, bro.
Yeah, why?
Just watch me.
I'm going one by one.
There's still 10 left here.
Legendary, incoming.
Single mythic incoming.
What do you mean?
There is no mythic.
It's pre-mythic, dude.
I'm trolling.
I'm trolling. I'm trolling, I'm trolling.
I'm trying to get your hopes up, bro. Come on.
No, okay, I got another
fucking epic.
Let's go.
I'm gonna post every single one.
Bro, I can see them, I can see them.
I can see them, bro.
I can see them.
Okay, here we go again.
I bought these, wait, what price? Let me see what price. I bought these. Wait, let me see what price.
I bought these at $2.
The ones I'm opening right now.
They're worth only $5 right now, which is ridiculously undervalued.
Like, come on.
These are so good.
I've been saying it from the beginning.
How many?
Do you have tap superstition?
No, I do no taps.
No taps?
No taps.
Okay, calm in that time.
Fuck you.
I didn't share it.
I forgot.
Let's go again.
No taps this time.
No taps.
No taps.
No taps. No taps. No taps. No taps. No taps.
No taps.
No taps.
No taps.
No taps.
No taps.
No taps.
I got the fucking terrible comment that I need to add the JPEG of it. Hold on.
Sorry, have you checked out Harmony's deck?
Yes! Actually, do you want me to open some of those, too? Am I a streamer now?
Am I a vibe streamer now?
Yeah, you're a vibe streamer, except you still have to solve the issue of us being able to see your stream, bro.
I remember...
I don't want to go on video.
That's the issue with Twitter, also.
Nobody trying to see you, bro.
We trying to see the screen, bro.
You know?
Well, that's why I'm posting them all to my Twitter feed, every poll.
No, bro, we trying to see it live, bro.
I even just put my comment on my...
I remember, I think it it live, bro. I even just put my comment. I remember it's like, I think it was Danny, bro.
