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Boba Network x Dega: Gaming Revamped
Recorded: Dec. 14, 2023 Duration: 0:46:00Space Recording
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Hey, Ram.
Ram.
Yeah.
Ram.
How's everyone doing?
We can chat a little bit, you know, while people join in.
Are you guys riding this little pump that's happening right now?
Yeah, pretty good, man.
Pretty good.
Sorry, I just have to keep refreshing the page so I can see your comments.
Hey, Carlos.
Just waiting for people to tune in real quick.
Just waiting for people to tune in real quick.
Can you hear me?
Where am I tripping?
Alright, we'll just give it a couple more minutes, one second.
Hey everyone tuning in just giving it a couple more minutes for people to join in and yeah
we'll get started real soon.
We'll get started real soon guys just a couple more minutes I'm not sure if the music is
playing I know there's like a little feature here but let me see yeah it should be but
you know filling the awkward silence with a couple things
I'll give me one second I think Carlos there you go
no the music's not playing you know I don't know why what's up
oh that's awkward so everyone was just waiting with silence yeah yeah
it's all good okay do you know if Racking is from your team I'm not sure
uh he's from our community yeah
okay all right Racking I'll give you access uh later on um during the spaces
yep yep let's uh address kind of like the main points and then we'll open it up for questions
yeah most definitely so we'll give it uh one more minute and then we'll get started just because
you know we we don't want to be waiting too long um as always this space is recorded so anyone who
missed out they can listen in um so it shouldn't be an issue uh this is more so for you know um
taking into account everyone's time just to make sure you know we we are not wasting theirs as well
yep indeed
all right I mean I guess we can get started so um we just don't take too much so Carlos where are you
joining us from then uh I'm based out of Costa Rica that's where I'm usually at uh you know I do
travel a lot although right now we've been focused on building and deploying but yeah that's that's where
I'm at how about yourself oh that's awesome man Costa Rica I wish I could go there but uh we'll see
um right now I'm based out of LA um California and yeah I mean I guess we're not too far apart
with the time zones no not at all not at all but uh a little bit far apart from you know the the
chilling side of things that's Costa Rica is very relaxed and the chaos that is LA
yeah yeah most definitely you must be on uh island time huh that's what they uh say out there
don't they all right island time yeah uh well I mean I guess not not so much for you but you know
most of the islands that I've been to they're just you know taking their time and they're like yeah
we'll get there when we get there yeah there are some people that are very much relaxed over here
but it's important to know right not to confuse Costa Rica with Puerto Rico right it's very different
yeah but yes yeah yeah most definitely um oh that's right my geography is horrible sorry about that um
but yeah okay so we'll get started Carlos welcome thank you for joining us um if you could give us a
little bit of the background about yourself and you know how you got started into the space uh what
you did before crypto uh it will be great to know yeah yeah happy to do so so on my side I've been
doing computer science for over 13 years now started out the first half of my career with the enterprise
world companies like well struggle bank covered for pharmaceuticals IBM Watson uh government and then I
shifted more to the innovation side of things created my own software development company we did
outsourcing for clients in the u.s and in europe building them their own blockchains crushing texas
marketplaces a whole bunch of systems right and um now being focused on tega for about a year and you
know our vision here is to empower billions around the world to protect our creativity in the digital economy
starting off with gaming
yeah no that's awesome so you have a pretty hefty kind of background in tech which is always good to
hear with founders you know um so you know now talking about daga a little bit you know what what made you
decide to start daga and especially into gaming right and what what made you position yourself into the world of gaming
well you know me being um from latin america and emerging markets um i'm all too familiar with the
struggles that creators go through here and how powerful and transformational the blockchain technology
is for us right like um you know not to say that the usa and europe can't benefit from it i'm sure they
can't but for us it's like many times bigger uh a bigger transformation right so it's important to
get it into as many hands as possible and gaming is kind of like the best way right in the sense that
gamers are one they're digitally native right they don't have to preach to them that something
digital has value they get it and the other aspect is that um we're heading towards the gamification of
everything right finance health loyalty reward programs everything is being gamified so gaming
is a very natural place to kind of like kick off and then the tools technologies and methods developed
there can be applied to any other side of the industry or any other type of industry right so
that's kind of like the reason why that guy exists yeah definitely you know i think you are right and
everything is being gamified um and you know the gaming market is huge so i think if you create an
enticing game even the gaming you know from way uh web three uh people would definitely come over
um so for those of you who don't know um if carlos you can give us a little bit more background
into what is daga in specific that would be great yeah in the sense of you know the tooling that we're
building you know how we're going about making this vision a reality um it's all about um allowing
someone with a 400 with a 100 smartphone to be able to take part in the creation of games right so
um the products you know we have a few that on our roadmap but you know we're focusing on two right
now two flagship products one of them is a crowdfunding system that uses staking mechanics to finance
your project right we call this initial stake pool offering or ispo and that one essentially works in
a way that instead of somebody buying a project tokens or nfts what you would do is you delegate to that
project staple they keep the yield that that staple generates right and the yield comes from validating
blocks in a blockchain and because it's it's through the proof of stake system and the project
distributes their tokens or their nfts or provides products and services to their users for doing the
staking right so it kind of it's it's a very it's a great way to reduce risk for somebody that wants to
support a new project right instead of you you know spending your ten thousand dollars you just
state them and you can now support that project right and that's uh that's kind of like one of our
flagship products on that note we just crossed 13 million dollars for the tbl in that project
um and we've done zero dollars in marketing spent right so it's 100 organic and then the other
flagship product which is let's say the fun one um is sego realms sego realms is aiming to be the wix
for gaming how will we go about this right and you know what what does that mean it's just like how
you can show up today to wix and you don't know javascript and you don't know apis and you don't know
nothing and you can show up there with a few images and text and you can come out with a website right that's
what wix allows you to do and that's the same thing that we want to do for somebody who wants to
create a game right we want you to be able to show up to dago realms with just your idea
uh you know maybe some design that you want right for the end game and then very quickly build your
map deploy it build character and apply certain pre-existing gameplays with some customizations
and you know the same day you walk the new join you're walking out with a new game right and that's
those are our two flagship products right now yeah that's awesome um i think it's super interesting the
way that you handle the ispo um you know i think it's completely different to what everyone is doing
right i mean there's from what i've seen is you know stake their platform token and then you can invest
your money to you know get some allocation there's some where it's just auction there's some that is
completely random so it's kind of interesting to have a staking platform where they use the yield
to actually give out you know um some allocation of whatever it may be so i think it's a pretty neat
approach to go about it that way and definitely you know in the world of you don't know what is going
to happen in the future giving it that safety of being able to stake something you believe in um that
it's already settled um and you know just having less risk i think that would be a huge kind of
stepping stone forward for you know staking platforms which is launch pads right um and then for i know you
spoke about the realms dega realms um and it's kind of interesting right um you know i think i have
seen the videos of how to set everything up and it looks pretty easy to do um and if you guys haven't
done it you should definitely do it go to dega's twitter um and then you know you can go to their
website check it out they do have a pretty nifty video uh giving you just a outline of how to do it
basically step by step um and you know just check it out it's really interesting and fun to do
um so i wanted to dive a little bit deeper into the realms actually right because that's something
that users gives more engagement and what what they can actually do um have you seen you know some of
the projects or i guess maps that users have made um you know is is your team actively building on it as
well um and where do you see that going into the future so yeah i mean right now we have live the
map publisher right so you can create your map and you can get it on chain and you know that's a full
playable map right now we started off with what you would call a 2d top-down style for games right and
that's kind of like the original pokemon the original celda the original final fantasy are in that
style and um we're going to build out many different types of gameplays for it right so that's live
already the map builder anybody here can you know watch the free tutorials on youtube if you go and
search for dega.org or if you go to our website and search in the menu for realms you'll find those
tutorials you can you know if it's your first time obviously you might have a little bit more of a
struggle but you know an hour two hours tops your your map is going to be done right so now that month
can be uploaded and minted on chain right and then once we release the character builder in january and
you know the gameplay the first few gameplay mechanics that will be uh that we're developing
you'll be able to apply them so essentially you'll have custom maps custom characters and then you'll just
pick and choose which gameplays will want to apply to them to give you guys a you know a little bit of
a spoiler there the first two gameplays are going to be one is a social simulation gameplay which is
the style that the game of the sims had right so but you know these guys are going to be are going to have
access to web3 wallets and web3 apis so the ai's inside that virtual world right inside of the 2d map you
created they'll go about talking to each other about how to solve for a goal that you'll give them
and they'll be able to find find if you know they'll have access to the api information for pricing
they'll be able to do staking they'll be able to buy and sell nfts so essentially you know we're calling
this the first iteration of it the dgens right because that's what the ais will be doing right you can
set and you can set them to you know your own goals somebody might say just buy and hold or
somebody might say i just want stable coin yields or somebody else might say i want the biggest you
know the coolest or most popular meme coins of the season so whatever it is that you want to do you'll
be able to give that goal to your dgen right your dgen character and it'll use the the systems and
with provided the ai to get it done right you'll see that in real time right um we'll be releasing
some videos for that we'll be doing a live stream early january and how that will work so everything
that you're building will be able to be applied then right and that's like one of the gameplays
the other one is going to be uh wave defense gameplay right and for anybody curious of that
seller game just if you look for vampire survivors technically that's not a that's a roguelike game
but to me like it just looks way too much to too much unlike like a wave defense game so that's the
second type of gameplay and the third type of gameplay will be a battle royale style so your little 2d
characters there will be able to shoot at each other you know explore the map and you know battle it out
to see who's the last one standing um and that's kind of like the first the first things that we'll
be doing that's awesome i mean you guys heard it here you know he dropped some spoilers i mean i'm
really interested about the battle royale um i've always been interested in those kind of games
so looking forward to it um i did hear that you know there's a mention of ai and according you know we
at boba network from the channel um there was a recent poll and over 300 people replied you know
and they were out basically the question was what is the main narrative leading into 2024 and it was
between ai rwas and gaming and surprisingly a lot of it almost like 70 of the votes went to ai and gaming
right so this is kind of interesting where you guys are setting yourself up for the you know the
narratives into 2024 um and it's kind of interesting of how you guys are using ai um i think that's
probably the best way to use it for gaming itself uh you know getting custom messages and stuff like
that and you know how how it kind of builds upon that um so given all that and giving the the the votes
how would you position yourself amongst like the different games and platforms out there
um you know especially from like a builder platform and as well as you know offering the games
well you know most of them are focused on providing one type of game experience right and they provide
everything right the story the characters they sell you the nfts everything right so on our side we're
actually providing tools so that other people can build the maps build the characters you know
define the story for their characters and then create their own games right so we're very different
in that sense right and most of the tools out there that you'll see even if there are no code tools
they still require you to understand how to build a game in the sense that you know you've got to tag
this entity and trigger this event and you know it's still too hard in my opinion to expect that you
know somebody that doesn't know how to code who use some of these game builders out there at the very
least you're going to be a designer right um so the level that we're bringing it down really is to
something more like wix right or another good example that i like to use is tick tock right you can give
a tick tock app to you know a seven-year-old and they'll go in there and start playing with it
they might make a reel that kind of sucks at the beginning right but they can get it done uh versus you
know if you gave them access to the adobe suite and you told them go and make a video technically you have
more power with the other suite right but you're gonna struggle to get anything done so that's kind
of like how we see ourselves that's different right we're not a game we're a game development platform
right uh but not for hardcore engineers you know it's something that's open to everybody
yeah no that's awesome um i think it's super interesting i think
you know users that are creative will definitely appreciate daiga um and you know what one of the
things that i was looking into and kind of delve a little bit deeper that's interesting as well uh was
daiga tribes um and you know we've seen many guilds out there especially with the game guilds right from
like ygg to ggg right and that was basically when actually infinity actually started right a lot of
people were going into gaming guilds um i do know that daiga tribe is a little bit more into the gaming
guild and how do you see that fitting into the picture with like all these other gaming guilds coming
out and um that have been there as well so you know we in the industry tend to forget that everything
that we built and create and do is for people right it's always about people but we like to focus on
things many times right and that's that's because of you let's say the dna of this industry is very
technical right um so since we started tega we had to have something let's say just like we're working
on technology for you know games ai and other aspects we kind of like have to do quote unquote
social technology right and you know for example if we talk about things like the republic a company
a rule of law and of course those are social technologies right that allow you to coordinate
and organize yourself so we set ourselves the goal to have something even if it's basic at the start
to organize our community right and kind of like try to sit in the sense that humans to the state still
have the instinct of the need to be part of the pride that's why people obsess over sports teams right
like you you'll see people go borderline religious with their sports teams and that's because of that tribal
instinct that we have in us to the to the state right so um in in a tribe you know you can send you um
within the dega ecosystem you can send yourself a vision you can send yourself a whole set of values
right and then people can group around that so that's why we wanted to provide that and the idea
is for these tribes to grow uh you know within as dega grows the tribes need to grow as well right right now
to be honest we use them to just to have fun play some games sometimes to coordinate together to do
certain activities within the dega ecosystem but um as we move forward we want to allow all these
tools you know for the tribes to be able to create their own maps their own characters their own games
their own brands they can also use the crowdfunding mechanics that that we're bringing uh to ethereum
and polygon uh to to be able to finance themselves um obviously we're already on cardano with the
state pools but but they're they're they're already most of them already know how to do that so all of
the tooling that we're providing and all of the growth that we expect to see within the ecosystem we
believe will be driven by the tribes system i see so you would say one of the growth drivers for dega would
be you know the tribe system if i'm hearing you correctly yeah i mean at the beginning not growth
at the beginning is more like coordination and engagement i would say right so we're the ones
that are projecting the dega brand right outwards just like in the space for example and then everybody
here is obviously invited to join the dega discord to either be part of a tribe or create your own tribe
and that's how you will you'll find yourself aligned with other people that share your vision and values
within the dega ecosystem yeah most definitely um which i i kind of wanted to ask as well um you know
in this kind of space and meta that's happening right now a lot of projects are offering some sort of
like incentives or point systems or you know whatever it may be um you know do you guys see your
self down the road um kind of leading into that direction as well we're already doing it um we
have uh the map creation contest live right now the person that you know wins that will take home 300 000
dega which is twice as big as the biggest uh prize we've done so far so that's already part of the
roadmap uh everybody that builds one of the og maps uh right now which is the current maps will also get
the reward uh in terms of dega tokens which will announce later on the tega airdrop and um we'll
continue to do so right so in dega we have a philosophy that we call play your way so this comes
as uh you know let's say a renaissance we believe in the space in the sense that we came from that you
you know play to earn play and earn and whatnot and those projects mostly you know not all of them but
most of them were just centered around poncinomics right just basically blowing up as much as possible
and then crashing the entire game economy right uh for us play your way means that you join the ecosystem
and you find what's interesting in it for yourself right or you redefine yourself within it in the sense that
some people can go in to dega and for example just care about the tooling the technology and the
creativity right so if all you want to do is make maps make characters create games you can do that
right um if you want to go in there and you know your thing is to hold tega tokens and then the tokens
of the games that are going to be launching on top of tega and your thing is to be a little bit more
let's say on the dgen side of things you can do that as well right and um so basically any anybody that
comes into dega can play you know can be part of play your way in the sense of defining what success
looks for you within the dega ecosystem and again you know that's where the tribes are going to be
playing in a key role um in the sense that they can either guide you support you or you can create
your own and start bringing together towards you the people that are going to be relevant for
for for you to achieve your own goals
yeah that's awesome um i think you guys are definitely heading it the right way which is
you know allowing the player to take ownership of how they want to play um i think that's gives it a
little bit more organic growth than anything else um so looking forward to that um i did want to ask
as well you know for the future um ultimately it's like what can what what do you desire for dega to
be in the end game right so that means how do you envision dega to be you know five years from now
we actually have a very specific goal right because we believe that things need to have you know numbers
in the sense of to be able to be tracked and measured so our goal i think our first goal is to
place 400 in the hands of everyone in emerging markets right which depending what type of person
you are you you might think it's either a lot if you truly understand the magnitude of that goal
and somebody might else might think it's very little in the sense that if you're american or european
you might say well you know they can't do anything with 400 you know extra um so it's something that
we know that for people in emerging markets would be a very powerful shift right like if everybody
on average in emerging markets had 400 extra a month that would be a massive tsunami of change right
and um the way that we want to do this is again allowing anybody with a 400 smartphone to be able to
access all the tooling that they can provide to for them to be either you know creatives or participants
um in the whole what we what we call the gamer nation right so not everybody's a creative right
like some people like to design things and make you know beautiful concepts come to life other people
just like to play other people like to create content and organize and so forth right so in reality
you know if you account for the whole gaming industry um there's kind of like a place for everybody
right there's the professional competitive esports players there's other guys that are just streaming
and taking funny things and entertaining people some people just use it as you know a time to relax
right and to be able to go on a digital adventure with other friends and bond with other people so we have you
know economic needs we have professional needs we have social emotional needs being satisfied within
the scope of the gaming industry right so that's kind of like what we want to see people be having
the capability to take part in without needing an expensive console or not even a laptop right just a
100 smartphone you jump in you can either work and make your money or just have fun and you know keep
going about your day but the truth you are connected right you are digitally connected in the in the
sense of the economic aspect and both the cultural aspect of it so that's the vision for us right like
we want to be as big as you know a big of a tectonic shift as what tiktok did for video we want to see
everybody we think i want to do for gaming we want to see everybody with the capability to create games and
take part in games across the world wow that's actually a pretty hefty goal and uh i hope you
guys achieve that within the next five years that would be huge obviously i i think there is some
importance in putting you know attention into the emerging markets like you've said um so definitely
looking forward to that uh just because i know a lot of people in like the sea uh region so uh southeast
asia region they're all gamers um when i've been there i've seen a lot of people who love games out
there so i hope uh daga becomes kind of a household name out there as well um so i do have one last
final question before you know you guys can plug uh daga as well it's um instead of long term what are
you most excited about for the short term right so probably uh the next year that's coming up
so next year we're gonna have the token generation event in q1 uh that's gonna be um a very let's say
special moment for everybody you know we're gonna release and really go into the world with the daga
token so that's gonna be something that's going to be eating up a lot of a lot of time from the team
uh just to make sure that the preparations are properly done uh but before that you know q1 in
general uh will be a very exciting let's say um sequence of vets right we'll be doing live streams
with some of our major partners uh with the gameplay of the daga simulation game we'll be releasing new
state pools and new protocols uh everybody knows that ethereum is coming next from from our
site but besides that one there's another one which will be a surprise there for the community
and um mostly you know just releasing all these this cool uh gaming features right the character
builder as well so q1 is going to be a super packed quarter for daga right um even right now we're only
taking a pause because you know a lot of people want to dedicate the holidays to the family there's the
new year so you know i'll be working for for for y'all to know i will not be chilling i'll be doing
like 14 15 hour days still but uh but yeah we're prepping for a massive boost in q1 with all these
gameplay releases and leading up to token generation event awesome um before i i throw some comments out
there if any of you guys have questions please feel free to write them here um in the comment section
or you know just raise your hand as well um but yeah i mean tge everyone loves tge so you heard it here
guys tge quarter one um and that's kind of funny because crypto doesn't sleep so i completely agree with
you that anyone who's working in the blockchain ecosystem they will be working during holidays
so you know i appreciate that guys everyone is grinding uh carlos will be grinding so look forward
to what daga has in store for you guys um let me see so there's one question actually carlos that maybe
you could answer uh it's from morello and he asked when we will get more tools for building games
so yeah the map builders have character builder coming in january and gameplay that you'll be able
to apply to your maps and to your characters in february right so yeah those are the next tools that
will be releasing for them and probably um around march or probably april because march will also be a
very crazy month uh but we'll we'll be adding another feature in which you'll be able to chat with an ai
developer assistant in that sense that will build will generate code to customize the gameplay that we've
provided right and kind of like allow you to do more granular fine detailed uh feature sets right so
what does that mean it means that you know just like how you go on instagram or tick tock and you
just pick a effect that you apply to your video with dega you know you'll pick a gameplay that you'll
apply to your map into your characters but you know maybe somebody says well i would like the gameplay but
just with these few changes so you'll chat with an ai system that will build out the script
you know it'll have access to our api and rtk and it'll create those specific features that you need
right so we're giving you a whole bunch of pre-built components and then on top of that you'll be able
to add those last let's call it the last mile development uh for you to kind of like have a game
exactly as you want it that's awesome uh so pretty much guys dega is making it super easy for you guys to
engage with uh their builder platform so give it a try um racking i'll give you the stage give me one
second um go ahead if you can oh he's connecting right now um but great question you know if you guys
have more uh you know just write them here i'll be sure to put them on and uh racking if you can speak
go ahead maybe your microphone is not working so we'll give it a try in a little bit let's see
yeah your might might not be working man um so if you can write that down the question that'll be
great um and then we'll go from there uh but other than that you know i'll give you the stage here carlos
to kind of say anything you would like to say uh for those listening here and for the ones that will
be tuning in for the recording um and the floor is yours thank you thank you on my side you know i think
we covered the main things about what we're about here in dega uh for anybody listening there would
be you know the key objective again of dega or let's say the vision that dega has is to empower
billions around the world to project your creativity in the digital economy right and to realize this
vision we are going to need your help right we would not be where we are right now if it wasn't for the
great support that we receive from our community like i said our staples are already at over 30 million
worth of delegations we expect to reach 100 million within a few months and you know all the creation
all the great maps that are creating the characters that we see in the dega universe will be created by
the community right so we invite anybody that has you know their own vision their own brand their own
sort of value and you want to bring this to life in gaming to reach out to us right and to join us in
our discord everybody's like having a ball there like and even if i do say so myself honestly that is
one of the most active and fun discords that you'll be a part of and um yeah you can help us out either by
staking in our isto or by acquiring one of the dega elements collection uh items so the dega elements
collections have a dega yield that'll be vested over eight months it'll start when we do tge so and and
the vesting will be on a per block basis right so literally every block that's minted will unlock more
dega for you it's kind of like streaming dega to you so if anybody wants to secure you know their
allocation and be a part of the dega ecosystem the dega elements collection live on boba network
is your place to go so join us in this revolution and also i'd like to give a big shout out to the boba
team for having us here today for all the technological support that you've given us you've been great you've
answered all of our questions immediately and it's a true joy to work with you the pleasure's all ours
carlos thank you for that um and obviously for everybody super looking forward to dega uh make
sure you go to their social media page um all channels you know and you'll see carlos around in
discord so definitely go in uh have a chat you know be part of their community um and wrecking i'll
give you the last question before we end the space i was able to hear you so go ahead all right cool so
basically i just wanted to touch on what carlos was saying about building games i actually was working
on my game which is rat racers and trying to get things going and had to get rid of my devs because
they're not doing anything and so i've got you know some things in place almost and and artwork
finished up and all this other stuff and i jumped into a space with some of the dega mods and started
talking and they're like dude welcome to the team come join us let us let us share our tools with you
so that we can get going and so one of the other games that will be coming very soon is uh rat racers
which is like a drag racing you know 1v1 racing game right now and it'll develop into uh multi-race
games all the way up to you know tournaments where thousands can be you know potentially racing for
points to get cash prizes and our goal is to actually become the largest pay to earn slash pay to learn
and pay to give which is a new dynamic that i'm trying to bring into gaming where 25 of everything
the game earns is actually going to go to help people with the quality of life needs and things
like that and that's because i live in uh one of these southeast asian countries now and i've seen
a lot of things happening there and i want to help everybody here in in america the average daily
income is about 167 dollars a day and i think that everybody everywhere needs to be earning at least
that and if they can do it through a game that would be amazing and so i'm very grateful to be part
of the daga team and what's going on there and i will be building my maps inside daga for our very
limited run of map nfts that will be part of the game awesome thank you for that uh rat king that was
really nice of you to say about daga um and you guys know uh it seems like their visions connect as well
of changing people's lives all over the world so thank you for that wrecking and all of that is
possible on daga so you know don't let me yourselves guys if you have an idea if you have a game that you
want to build out use daga build out your game enjoy you know have people join you in the fun um and
once again i would like to reiterate thank you carlos for hopping on uh for this great ama um and then
obviously for everyone who missed out just tune in uh listen to what was said here because there was
some uh what's it called some spoilers coming out uh some things to look forward to and i appreciate
everyone who hopped on so thank you guys so much um i hope you guys have a great holiday as well
um and yeah give some love to the daga team guys
beautiful thank you john have a great day thank you buddy have a great day everyone bye
