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Bridging Web2 & Web3 : Bringing Decentralisation To The Masses
Recorded: Nov. 13, 2024 Duration: 1:23:10Space Recording
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I'm going to be sending out the links and getting the code stopped in here so we can get this going.
You guys are welcome.
Yeah, let's go.
I have no music on, but I'm just going to start talking about random shit while I try to send
us out.
So what's going on, guys?
I guess my co-hosts aren't here right now.
I guess let's just pass it around and I get quick highs before I get everybody up in here.
Dapob, what's going on?
Hey, Zen.
How's everybody doing today?
Hey, it's been a great week so far.
You know, been some great games this week.
You know, I love the market as, you know, turned around.
Like, real facts, bro.
It's super exciting to see the markets at this price because, oh, God, we've tried super
hard through the beer market and it's been crazy.
Like, for real, it's been crazy.
So it's finally great that we're looking at our bags pump and everything is just super
exciting.
It's bullish times.
It's like, come on, we need this.
It's been a long time coming.
We need this.
And, well, I'm happy.
I'm happy.
Staring up my bags.
I'm really, really happy.
Just going to say that.
I know the engineer is going to talk about, you know, oh, the engineer isn't here in the
space.
Thank God.
Because all I do is buy memes.
I'm not going to lie right now.
Well, I have a little bit of Bitcoin, but majorly memes.
And, thankfully, the memes are up.
So, yeah, I'm super excited.
The Ganjo, what's going on?
Yo, what the fuck is crackalackin'?
Do you want me to play a tune or what?
I got a fucking track we got to fucking play right now, bro.
I got a fucking track lined up.
I don't know what happened the first time.
I was requesting to come up and, like, you weren't seeing me or something.
I don't know.
But I had to take a lap and then, yeah, I was on it, bro.
Like, as soon as you popped up, I was in here and I requested.
But you all got to play this fucking track.
And in the meantime, let's get everybody to like and retweet the room.
Let's get some more people in here.
Thank you very much.
What do you do with the Bitcoin besides it and just gather value?
Real estate developers in New York City, they're not buying the real estate because they want to live in it.
But, like, most of the people who are buying assets at some point want to sell the assets at a profit.
People that use Fiat, Fiat, Fiat, Fiat, Fiat, Fiat, time safety.
This is good.
value.
We called them.
We call them.
We call them.
People.
We call them.
We call them core.
We call them core.
We call them core.
There's a name for him.
We call him the core.
We call him the core.
Okay.
Right, like, the point is, if you have the superior asset, it's going up forevermore.
Right, I mean, right, but, I mean, we can all look at coins sort of forevermore.
People, people, people that use fiat currency as a store of value.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
People that use fiat currency.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
There's a name for him.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
We call them the core.
Okay.
All right.
Could you all hear that?
We actually did, but in between, we're kind of, like, losing sound, but it's all good.
It's all good.
It's for the vibes, bro.
So, how are you doing today?
Yeah, I'm chilling, bro.
I'm chilling.
I'm just watching some charts.
You know, you know, you're talking about playing the meme coins.
Before I get into it, I just got to say, like, I got to bounce at, like, 335.
My bad.
That's my time.
So, like, 29 minutes from now.
But, yeah, bro.
Fucking, you know I'm playing the memes, too.
And I'm playing it a lot in the runes.
Gizmo, imaginary kitten.
That shit cannot be stopped.
That shit just keeps going up every time I look.
It just keeps going up, man.
And I don't know what to say.
I mean, I should have bought more, I guess.
But I'm happy with my bag still.
What else?
Pepe.
I have a small bag of Pepe and shit.
That shit is sending.
I don't know how high that is going to go.
Pepe could end up being, like, the next Shib or the next Doge.
Didn't they hit Robin Hood today?
And Coinbase, bro.
Nah.
Damn.
Two for one?
Two in one day.
Now I feel like a dumbass.
I didn't buy any either.
Now I feel dumb as fuck.
Yo, I only spent, like, 150 bucks on Pepe.
And that shit is, like, I don't know, 600 bucks right now, bro.
But hold on.
Give me a second.
I'll give you, like, an up-to-the-minute...
Yo, this shit is sending.
Okay.
Don't tell me.
That's all I need to know if it's sending.
A little retracement now.
I don't want to hear too much.
A little retracement now.
There is a little retracement now.
But, yeah, it did go up significantly.
But, yeah.
You know what's actually super crazy right now, right?
I saw Coinbase actually make a tweet, like, I think a few minutes ago about another listing.
And they're like, what rhymes with frog?
So now everybody's saying either frog or mog.
We still don't know, but...
I say dog.
Everybody's excited about that.
I say dog, bro.
Dog going to the moon.
Come on, man.
That rune.
Come on, man.
No way.
That rune.
That rune.
You know what's crazy about that rune?
Like, about an hour ago, there were some serious, like, Bitcoin whales and some, like, possibly ancient Bitcoin whales
swept almost $500,000 worth of that rune exactly 59 minutes ago.
I'm sharing it to the top right now.
But, yeah, bro.
I saw somebody smash up.
Somebody grabbed, like, $120,000 worth of peppy as soon as they hit Robin Hood.
Yeah, I don't know.
Rhymes with frog, they're very smart.
Because you're right.
It could be mog.
It could be foog.
It could be dog.
Yo, they're fucking trolling us, man.
Pure fact.
So, let's get quick eyes from everybody here on the speaker panel before we dive into today's topic.
Just quick eyes, you know, maybe a little bit under one minute or two, because the topic is going to be a lengthy one.
So, let's start with 21.
What's going on, bro?
Nothing, man.
Not a whole lot at all.
Just chilling.
Do you want to do, like, a quick summary of the projects?
What are we doing?
What are you talking about ourselves?
The days?
What are we doing?
Yeah, something real quick.
Like a minute or two.
All right.
My name is 21.
I'm a proud, proud member of the blockchain Genesis team.
I see we got another Genesis member named Bearish down there.
Make sure you give him a follow.
What's up, my brother?
We are a blockchain solutions company.
Basically, what we do in a nutshell, if you are a founder and you are wanting to deploy anything on the blockchain, we'll use tokens for an example.
Say you want to deploy a token on the blockchain.
You can deploy one liquidity pool, a single liquidity pool on Paul chain, and you can have holders and your token will be accessible across base.
Arbitrum, Ethereum, Polygon, BNB, Paul chain, AVAX, Optimism, and Celo.
We're going to give you about three to five more EVMs, hopefully around the end of the year.
And we're also in the current process of working on our Tron and Solana connection.
You heard us right.
We're going non-EVM to EVM.
We have an external swap.
You can pull up any of your L1 wallets, TrustWallet, MetaMask, Connect, do your cross-chain DGM plays, and go right back to sleep.
The reason why you're going to go right back to sleep, we have the fastest blockchain on the face of the earth.
0.004 seconds.
So, yes, we are delivering.
You have a gas-free wallet to navigate this multi-chain environment with.
So, as a holder, you are getting more money for your crypto.
You can do multiple things with this wallet.
It's absolutely beautiful.
So, yeah, man, if you're, you know, imagine an NFT collection.
You're meeting on one chain, but you have holders on all chains.
Same with your tokens.
Same with your dApps.
You build in a dApp.
Imagine having users that can use your dApp on all chains simultaneously.
No more isolated single chains at a time.
Same with games as well.
So, yeah, we're definitely here to build for the future and help you build your projects outward for cheaper, safer, and faster.
This is what we do.
If it interests you at all, hit me up after the space, and let's get to building.
And, as always, appreciate you having us here, too, man.
I absolutely look forward to each and every one of these spaces, and I got my notepad and my snack ready.
So, let's fucking go.
Hope you didn't forget the bong as well.
Thank you so much to everyone.
So, Dapp Hub, you're next.
What's going on?
Hey, everybody.
I'm Travis.
I want to co-find some Dapp Hub browser, man.
And I love, I love, I love the energy from my policy, you know what I'm saying, from 21.
I love it.
I was on the spaces last time, man.
I love it.
So, for Dapp Hub browser, the browser meant to onboard the next wave of consumers coming on chain.
And, simply, like, what that means is that we're creating a UI that is something familiar to everybody first.
Most people, when they get into crypto, it is solely about the finance aspect.
But, like, we're betting on the actual blockchain technology that's going to be abstracted and the actual use cases that most people won't actually know that it's actually blockchain, right?
Like, nobody cares about, you know, cloud computing on, like, an everyday basis, you know?
You know, nobody thinks about that.
So, but I like to make the analogy that we're building a Google Chrome, but for the people, right?
Like, we're taking a Google Chrome and we're applying the principles of blockchain, right?
Having a decentralized ecosystem that is for the people and that a piece of the puzzle of the browser can be owned, whether you're a creator, making content, whether you're a consumer, using applications,
whether you're a builder of a dApp, whether you're a builder of a blockchain, right?
Everybody can abstract some form of value monetarily and then also just by doing partnerships and things like that through the browser.
Right now, we're out on Mac right now, and it's pretty easy.
So, you guys can download it, and it's three easy steps.
You know, it's all a desktop.
It's all self-custodial.
You make your Dappup account, which is just your email, basically, and then you start, go to the app store.
That's where that, you know, we make partnerships with different types of applications and blockchain.
So, if you guys have any apps that want to be listed to the app store, you know, you guys can hit a DM to us.
And then, I mean, you just go and you start to interact on-chain, right?
Like, built-in wallets, it's in the browser.
It's EVM-like compatible.
And we'll be launching on Solana and BTC next year as well.
But, yeah.
That's a whole bunch of alpha, man.
Like, a whole bunch of alpha.
So, that's something everybody should definitely be looking forward to.
So, Effie, what's going on?
Hey, guys.
How are you doing?
It's Airfun, co-founder of Snooze Up.
So, Snooze Up is a Web3 lifestyle application that focuses on sleep cycle and physical activity during the day.
So, what we do, we incentivize our users to have a healthier lifestyle.
And I know there are a bunch of other wellness applications, Web3 wellness applications out there that most of us use them at least once.
But what differentiates Snooze Up from other wellness applications is that instead of rewarding users in our own token, we use stable coins and, like, you know, heavyweight coins like Ethereum to reward the users.
So, the inflation is not going to ruin the price of the token.
And we're in close beta testing right now.
And we're going to launch the public beta in a month.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I was trying to, like, on mute right now.
So, thank you very much.
Bybit Africa, what's going on?
Yo, yo, yo.
So, I love the energy here already.
I love the energy here already.
So, I think everybody, every other person that I've spoken before me were physically DEXs and all of that.
But, Bybit is probably one of the leading centralized exchanges in the world currently.
But I think I can, I have the liberty to say both centralized and decentralized right now because we have integrated a DEX where you can actually trade meme coins and all of that.
So, we currently have a DEX integrated in our platform where you can trade your meme coins and all of that.
Yeah, and I think our newest product, which we are trying to, which we are trying to push into the market currently, is an integration of a forest gateway, which means you can also trade forests right now on Bybit.
I think we are just one of the few exchanges that are currently offering that service to our users.
All right.
So, we are probably one of the most reliable exchanges out there right now.
So, thank you very much for having us.
Thank you very much for joining us.
And I'm also dropping some alpha.
Personally, yeah, I actually use Bybit.
If I'm trying to do, you know, trades or whatever on the sex, I use Bybit.
So, thank you very much for, like, coming up here as well.
Firechain, what's going on?
Are they kind of, like, rugged?
Firechain.
Hi, guys.
Sorry.
I was on mute.
Hope you can hear me.
Oh, yes, we can.
Great savvy.
Yeah.
I'm just, likewise, love the energy here.
I'm the CMO of Fire.
We're a layer one EVM compatible blockchain.
And what we're trying to do is to build a new digital playground on which awesome apps can exist.
The way our consensus mechanism is structured is that we prioritize companies that are, you know, have a solid business model and are also following structures that help us new and sustainable development goals.
Our main net is live, so we invite everyone to check it out.
And in addition, we also have exciting new announcement about our meme launchpad.
Our token is there, so invest on us.
After doing your research, build on us.
And, yeah, we're there to help you and be part of this wonderful movement.
Well, thank you guys for, like, coming up and joining us.
Like, everybody up here on the speaker panel and everybody down here in the listeners section as well.
So, the first thing I'm going to say is, in case you haven't done it, go down there to the bottom right of your screen.
It could be black for you.
It could be purple for you.
Click on that.
Like and retweet the room.
Tag your mom, your dad, your sister, your uncle, your auntie, your girlfriend, your ex, your lover, anybody you want to tag into the space.
And we could just get this going.
So, I have a bunch of questions lined up for today's topic.
I know we might not go through all of them eventually.
But, you know, it's going to start off through something really easy and simple.
So, your hand or jump in whenever you can.
So, that way we'll be able to, like, cover the questions real quick.
What are the main differences between Web 2 and Web 3 and why do they actually matter to the end users?
So, anybody could just raise up their hand and go for it.
Yeah, I mean, I'll, like, I'll just, like, kick it off there.
So, I won't go, like, really, really too, too long because, like, this is something that I can talk about literally all day on.
So, as the founder of a decentralized browser, that's all we think about is the user experience.
But also, we have to mention the value distribution.
And Web 2, it's usually when you think about the value that a person gets either through the investors of, like, the company, right, that gets, you know, the dividends or whatever the case in a typical Web 2 company and the founders that have equity in the company, right?
And then consumers, you're basically, the value that you get is just from the utility of Google Chrome or, like, of Instagram or TikTok or whatever.
Like, it's the value from the platform.
But with Web 3 or what, you know, now we're calling the on-chain web is because of tokenomics, right?
Like, tokenomics now becomes a, almost a business model, but also it becomes the blood of your ecosystem or, like, the blood of your community.
And then your community is basically similar to, like, a user base.
But now your user base is very crucial and important to the product or to the meme coin.
It doesn't matter whatever you want to call it.
It's still a product, right?
Like, Doge is still a product.
A blockchain is still a product, right?
Like, Datplub is a browser.
It's still a product.
You know, radio is still a product, right?
So it's just the difference is that that community has a larger say.
And the value redistribution is, I would say that it can be more equitable to everybody.
So for Datplub, like, we're making sure that our tokenomics and our white paper, that the intrinsic value of consumers, builders, us as the founders, you know, and engineers, audit team, and investors,
everybody is gaining some form of, like, reward there.
Okay.
So in light of that, right, since we don't have anybody else who wants to jump into that one, I feel like, okay.
Okay, Afri.
I need you to, I missed the first part of the question, man, if you could just run that back in full real quick for me, bro.
Okay, so the question goes this way, is what are the main differences between Web 2 and Web 3, and why do they actually matter to the end users?
Okay, so in my opinion, there are several main differences.
One of them is the ease of use, and the other one, the other main one is the responsibility.
So for the majority of people, Web 2, it's already there, so they grow up with them.
I'm not talking about the baby boomers, I'm talking about millennials, and, for example, Gen Z, and they already know how to work with it.
But unfortunately, for most of the people, crypto, Web 3, it's something new, and they haven't adopted that language yet.
So that's one problem that, as a founder of a consumer-based Web 3 application, I'm facing because as soon as I'm talking to someone who's not in Web 3,
and I want to have them on board in my application, the first thing I say is that you have to connect your wallet to the application, and they go blank.
So they don't know what's going on.
So that's one of the issues, and the other one is the responsibility.
So Web 2, the consumer, is not responsible for anything.
They forget their password, they just reset their password.
Their bank account gets hacked, they contact the bank, and the bank's going to refund the money.
But in Web 3, in crypto, you're responsible for your own wallet and your own asset, and if you lose them, you lose them for good.
So the responsibility is, in my opinion, it's another blocker that people are, some people are avoiding touching, you know, crypto, or at least the self-custody part of it.
You know what, right?
I'm always saying this in spaces.
I'm like, we need a whole bunch of, like, simplicity when it comes to wallets and stuff like that.
We don't need the situations where we need to, like, store up seed phrase and other info like that.
We need something real simple, as easy as a login, that we could just get into our wallets and stuff like that.
It will create less friction.
But what do I know?
What do we know?
But thankfully, I believe there's a new product coming out, I think, from Abstract Chain, it's going to work that way.
So it's something we're looking forward to.
Firechain, please go ahead.
Yeah, I think the fundamental difference between Web 2 and Web 3 is that of ownership.
In Web 2, yes, there is a lot of ease of use, but it comes to the cost of ownership, which is large tech companies owning all of your data and being able to use it to the best of advantage.
So this does create a lot of consumer surplus, but it comes with the cost of some flexibility.
Web 3 is about decentralized sense of ownership, building a shared playground.
And yes, it has an adoption issue, even though the context now looks a bit different than it did a few weeks back.
The fundamental problem remains.
We do have to, as an industry, do a lot more education programs, work on ease of use, so that eventually it can go from one or two percentage of adoption to a more widespread across age groups.
One thing that I would add to what Firechain just said is also, when you think about it, in Web 2, the infrastructure is pretty agnostic.
And again, that's because of the decentralization of things, where even if you want to build a product, it's pretty easy to go to AWS or go to Firebase Firestore and kind of do it there.
And then you can integrate with different APIs and not worry about your consumers really noticing the back-end changing versus in a typical dApp thing.
I mean, your users wouldn't need a whole different wallet if you're using Slana or using a BTC or something that isn't EVM.
Yeah.
Damn, did I rock?
Can we hear you now?
Oh, sure.
I didn't hear anybody talking.
I thought I rocked.
No, you didn't.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
I guess I'll chime in on it.
Give me that question one more time, Zan Radio.
Do you want to know the difference or what's important?
What are we taking from Web 2 to Web 3?
Or what was the first part of that question again, bro?
It was the differences between Web 2 and Web 3 and why they actually matter to the end users.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Gosh, gosh.
That's what I thought you said.
All right.
Well, I think my take on that would be why do they matter to the user?
And I don't think that it does.
I don't think that it does.
I don't think the differences matter to the user as much as they matter to us on the back end.
The user doesn't care, you know, whether they're where their parts got made.
The user that buys a car doesn't doesn't mind if Ford outsourced it to Mexico or if they outsourced it to somewhere in America to make the parts.
They just want the car to run, right?
You know, they just want it to function.
So I think the compatibilities between Web 2 or Web 3 are the are the ones that we can show the user and the user experience in a user interface, meaning bridges, things like that.
And technology merging together, working together, that's something you want to show on the user experience and on the front end.
But as far as, you know, showing them the stuff on the back end, I don't think that it really I don't think that it matters.
And I don't think that it might matter to us.
And I think there's ways to tweak things.
But and really, it shouldn't.
We should really under the interoperable umbrella, which I know I love to talk about, we should be finding ways to integrate these technologies.
So to us, it shouldn't matter either.
You know, it should it shouldn't matter if it's Web 2, Web 3.
How can we make this tech more applicable to us right here, right now?
You know what I mean?
We need to get over the compartmentalization.
We already went through that with with chains.
We built we built blockchains that are copy images of each other.
We call them something different.
We compartmentalize them.
And now what are we doing?
Trying to connect them all because we see we have this thing called fragmented liquidity, which is killing all of our LPs and price arbitrage sucks.
You know what I mean?
So, I mean, now we're learning from our mistakes.
So instead of I'm not going to say mistakes, we're learning from our past bills rather.
So I feel like we should kind of apply that to new aspects and forget if it's Web 2 or Web 3, because it ain't going to stop with Web 3.
You know, we get so tied up in Web 2, Web 3.
OK, well, what the hell are you going to do when it's Web 5?
You still going to be sitting over here trying to decipher between the Web 2 and Web 3?
And what's the difference and how to make one better?
Fuck no.
You know, you're going to be one to focus on Web 5.
So the minute we can forget what language we're speaking and just learn how to communicate with people, then we can say a lot more and a lot more people can hear us and we can hear what a lot more people are saying.
So the same thing needs to happen in blockchain.
We need to get over the compartmentalization and the labels and just know that blockchain is our unpolished gem.
The more we focus on that and do it together, the more we can move forward and just really, really blow the lid off this thing, because, you know, like I said, it was an issue in the beginning, compartmentalization.
I'm on this chain.
You're on that chain.
What can we do together?
We can only wave at each other like neighbors across the street.
We can't work together.
But now that we're changing that, does it matter if it's Web 2 or Web 3?
I don't think so.
And at the rate that the space moves, we blink an eye and there's a new layer created or there's a new trend, there's a new this, there's new that.
So, you know, the more and the same thing, don't get don't get caught up in worldly possessions.
Don't get caught up in worldly labels.
You know, Web 2, Web 3.
Let that stuff go.
Focus on the tech.
Focus on the tech and what it does for you and your project and how you can connect that to maybe another project and make interoperability a thing of your own.
You know what I mean?
There's absolutely no reason why we should label each other outside of technological definition.
Yes, I am that.
But that's not where I stop.
That's not where I stop at.
And that's that should be what Web 3 says to everybody.
And that should be what Web 2 says to everybody.
Yes, I'm Web 2, but that doesn't mean I have to remain in Web 2 territory.
Right.
All technology can evolve.
All technology can be used in new ways.
But if we're still calling it the same old thing, we're never going to apply it to new applications.
And that's something we as that's human nature for you.
Now, I don't mean to get all philosophical, but, you know, we've done it in the past.
And we're going to we're destined to repeat it unless we start with new habits.
And I really feel like, you know, we do the same thing with racism and people.
We don't want to see races anymore.
We want that shit gone.
So why do we get caught up in the race of a blockchain or the race of technology?
You know what I mean?
That the same logic supply be open to everything and everyone because we everything can work together and everyone can work together.
And there's enough room for us all.
So, yeah, I really don't feel like there should be a difference between Web 2 and Web 3, except for, you know, maybe in the time of year that technology came out.
That should be the defining factor of Web 2, Web 3 is a time frame that it came out, not the technology that it encapsulates.
So, you know, facts, facts and you actually dropped some really, really hard takes on that point, because if I was like to name that segment, I would definitely name it understanding the Web 2 and Web 3 divide.
I touched up on that like pretty well.
So I'm trying to dive into the onboarding side right now.
If you're trying to, like, effectively onboard people like non-crypto users from Web 2 into Web 3, what are the effective strategies for you to put in place to, you know, actually onboard them aside meme coins?
Because I know, yeah, meme coins are a great onboarding tool.
21 points, go for it.
Usability. Usability. Usability.
We've got to go back to old school things.
We've got it. I know we in the crypto space, man, we move so fucking fast.
You know, we in the blink of an eye, we're already trying to do new things and we leave the new people behind in the dust.
Easy, you know, so we've got to go back to simplicity.
You know, we just talked about it with user interface, user experience.
There's a lot of stuff happening on the back end.
But at the end of the day, the front end user does not need to know any of that.
We've got to go back to simplicity.
We've got to go back to safety.
We've got to go back to taking care of our holders.
You know, the whole trust me, bro thing.
I hate that shit.
That's just to be gone.
You should be able to break down your project and not use buzzwords like I love to be able to say layer three, but that's not what I mean.
I want to tell you about the function that that buzzword creates, the bridge swap bridge function.
That's what you should be talking about.
The functions of your projects, not the buzzwords.
So I think we should go back to simplicity and actually telling these people and just find some problems.
And now here's the tricky part of it.
To go back to that simplicity, you actually have to solve issues out here.
You can't just be up here calling yourself an innovative project because you just happen to sound like another popular project.
It's going to be it's going to it's going to take some some actual building from the builders for us to make the space great again.
You know what I mean?
No more calling projects.
One's red, one's green.
But we're both eating well because we do the same exact thing.
It's a copy pasta.
We can't we can't eat like that forever.
That's being wasteful.
You know, bring some innovation.
I'm not saying that everybody's going to be the next Bitcoin, the next Ethereum, but do something for your people.
Offer them some type of passive income, some type of innovation.
Have a reason to be here.
You know, earn your spot at the crypto table because there is enough room.
But, you know, that that being said, we definitely want everyone that deserves to be here to be here.
You know what I mean?
We don't want to sacrifice any chairs because someone just happens to know someone.
You know what I mean?
When there's real innovators out there that are building that have stuff that needs to be represented.
And so I really just yeah, I saw I kind of went off on a rant there.
But, yeah, I really feel like, you know, just moving forward, man, we get to get our space back again.
I feel like that's going to take a little bit of that.
No, you actually said great stuff.
Like we actually really need a whole bunch of simplicity and innovation in the space.
And we can see that from a bunch of projects coming out with innovative means and, you know, integration is on the platform.
And it's doing here.
We are we are very lucky to be where we're at today.
I'm going to be I'm going to keep it real, real, real with y'all for just one second.
This space is absolutely lucky.
It has made it as far as it has on.
Trust me, bro, on the rugs on a Saturday Night Live tweet.
I mean, come on, let's be real, guys.
Where is the innovation?
What's pushing it?
We all want that mass adoption.
But right now, Walmart's going to have to spend more money to be able to sit at a table where only five percent of the world sits.
We're not that cool, bro.
We're here.
I'm not that cool of people for Walmart to be able to spend billions of dollars to mass adopt crypto to be able to sit down at the crypto lunch table.
We've got to do some some real housecleaning here before we start to, you know, really get that stuff going.
So that's that's great points.
You make that pop.
Go for it.
Yeah, I took this question as like an IRL thing, you know, so like I'm talking to people.
Quick background.
So we are in America and I live in Atlanta, Georgia.
So I'm I'm constantly talking to the government here in Georgia.
So I spoke with the House earlier this year and the majority leader.
But I also speak with a lot of college students here, you know, like, you know, like Georgia Tech and Morehouse, Spelman, Emory.
And it definitely depends on the on the person, you know.
So earlier this year, we didn't have the market that we had.
We didn't have the the hype that we had.
So we really had to go in and bare bones, talk with legislation and say, hey, like and specifically specifically be talking to the technical guide there.
So even if even if you have like a Senate, the the two people in the Senate might have a technological delegate that like that they go to.
And so with either one of them, we had to fully not talk about the nitty gritty that they don't care about, because when it comes to down to legislation, Congress is looking at hundreds of bills over different industries.
And crypto is just one of them.
So you have to be very thorough and you have to have the right points to make.
And the points that we want to make was, hey, this industry is going to bring thousands of jobs to Georgia.
Right. Like that's what they care about.
They care about jobs, the economy of, you know, a state, whatever.
Right. So like you definitely have to tailor the needs of what that person might want.
When it comes down to like college students.
Right. I just I just explained to them like, hey, like I was in college, like I'm only 23, man.
And, you know, from my experience and from, you know, the other people on my team, that's, you know, like that's way older than me.
Is that like you want to be ahead of the future, you know, like when I was talking to CS majors, they say, hey, this is the future of the Internet, man.
Like if you really want to like, you know, get a job now to sign, you know, but you can also take the skills that's being done and it's being taught with blockchain and it's going to influence the world heavily in the next five, 10 years.
And then like, you know, you're already like ahead, you know, like ahead of the game since, you know, same thing with finance majors or, you know, like whatever the case.
So, you know, I do a lot of IRL talks, even even for the election, I was a part of Coinbase to stand with crypto.
They sent us a cyber truck, man, I was sick, man.
And we rode around Atlanta and the cyber truck is talking about voting, you know, you know, so like it's things like that where you have to meet people, you know, on the ground.
And by the way, Georgia was the most they had the most crypto voters in America, like like one sided like crypto voters, which is insane to even know that.
And yeah, it is amazing.
So I think I think IRL, you know, it's good to talk to the people of the country like that you live in.
Right. It's just the way that you do it.
And and maybe if you feel like that, you don't have a voice, sometimes it's always good to go to the companies.
That's a part of it. Right. So like we are a company in Georgia.
So it's a little bit easier to kind of get that meeting and say, hey, like there's tons of money being flooded in.
And like we want to make sure that we stay, you know, inside of this state or inside this country.
Right. But if we're going to do that, you know, then we need to popularize legislation, things like that.
You know, one of the best ways, such as you said, to onboard people is through education.
Yeah, super important. And, you know, that fun factor of, you know, taking the whole ride around town.
And a cyber truck and educating people is also super great. Right.
So before we move to Bybit right now, I could see a whole bunch of requests from Meme Coins.
But I'm just going to say this before I actually accept anyone up here.
Once you accept that up here, you know, up here to show you could just like give your takes on the topic.
If you wish to join the conversation, any funny business, I'm kicking everybody back down.
So and also, if you have a like there, it's with the space, please do that right now.
Go down to the bottom right of your screen, like it's with the space and, you know, let's get it going.
Bybit Africa, please go ahead.
All right. So I think the first two speakers already made points on the things I wanted to talk about.
Or I think user making your making the product user friendly cannot be overemphasized.
That is one of the fears that most Web 2 folks have when they want to join Web 3.
They think it is very complicated. So keeping these things very simple.
It's very, very important in the onboarding process.
You understand that that's the first thing I want to talk about.
Then secondly is after the onboarding process, what next?
Yeah, that's actually a very big aspect of the entire thing of getting people from Web 2 to Web 3.
Now, we see a lot of people coming through trends.
For instance, the tapping trend that just ended.
But trust me, a lot of them are going to are going to are going to just phase out just the same way the trend faded out.
All right. So most of them are going to lose interest generally because there is no guidance after the trend must have died down.
So beyond the trend, projects need to look at the fact that there are new people who are just coming into Web 3 or who are just coming into crypto generally.
And it is everybody's it is everybody's duty to educate these people on how to further go move away from the trend.
Know that this trend can die. But crypto generally, the blockchain is here to stay.
All right. So the education is also very, very important.
Then I look forward to a time when when projects will build projects that also depict real life situations that are like what we have,
like projects we have in Web 3 and Web 2 generally, where we can replicate Web 2 projects in Web 3 so that it is there is just an easy transition from Web 2 to Web 3.
So these are the easy ways I feel it would be very easy to transition people from Web 2 to Web 3.
Yeah, like actually you're super spot on as well on that side.
And I can see Baggy, raise your hand. I OK, please go for it.
OK, can I can I can I can I can I make one extra point?
Yeah, you can. Of course.
Yeah. So so one last thing, one last thing I want to talk about is one thing that projects,
especially protocols and all of that do not do a lot that I see Web 2 folks do a lot is we neglect free trials a lot.
And for a for a for a an ecosystem like our own, I think we should embrace that more where you have free trials,
where you allow people to try out your features risk free.
All right. Try out your features risk free. Let them know that, OK, just get your hands dirty and you have nothing to lose.
Get your hands dirty trying to swap from this protocol to the other, do this, do that, buy, sell.
You have nothing to lose because everything is is on a free trial.
All right. So it will also help. It will also help to build confidence in these new people who are just transitioning from Web 2 to Web 3.
And that is one of the things that that's one of the features we currently offer.
Yeah. So we have that feature in every of the in every of the products that we offer currently.
Users are able to try out new things with our own funds. All right.
So if you lose the funds, you're losing our funds. But if you gain from the funds, it is yours.
So we also have a demo product where you just trade and get your hands dirty.
Like I said, try to do things, know how it works till you are confident enough to try out things with your own funds.
That's where you, you, you, you build confidence in yourself long term.
Okay. Now this point that you made, right.
Also, but it brought up a curious question within me to ask something like real quick.
So, um, I've seen strategies from projects where, you know,
they incentivize you to actually try out features on their platform.
Um, but there's like a couple of times where you see like people with the people out there that are trying to onboard into your community.
Aren't like as, um, should I say don't really interact with the features or the incentives you have going on.
So, um, so is there a way that you can actually grab that attention?
Like, is there any other way that you can actually grab that attention into people coming into your project to use your features, you know, in addition to the incentives that you have going on?
Okay.
Okay.
One of the things, one of the things we do at Bybit is that, um, we do not neglect grassroots, um, partnerships.
You understand?
So, um, we, we do a lot of partnerships with influencers and all of that.
So basically these influencers are able to reach out to this community community, um, to these users because they are closer to these users.
That's one of the things we do.
And then you can also run campaigns, social media campaigns, and all of that to talk about, talk about these incentives.
Everybody love incentives.
I can tell you for free.
All right.
So a lot of people, everybody love incentive, everybody love free things.
So sometimes, um, that people do not know about these incentives or they are not trying out these products, uh, basically because they do not know
that these products exist and that they can try it out for free and still make something for themselves.
All right.
So, um, I worked in marketing for a particular project for some time and, um, that, that, that was the issue, you know, the products are put out or users do not get to try it out.
So, um, with more awareness created around these products, it is very much easier for people to get to try it out.
And yeah, we know that there's always new, there are always new users who would want to, um, jump on it.
So, yeah, like I really did get your point there.
Like most times is because those people don't actually know about those incentives or those features, but there are also some couple of times that I feel like the, our, our consumers, our retail is just lazy to get things going.
Cause personally, right.
I've done like some random giveaways or incentives, like from other accounts where I would need people to like interact and do some stuff.
But, well, you can't expect a hundred percent return anyway.
So I guess that's the thing.
So eventually at the end of everything, there was a set of people that does it and a set of people that don't do it.
And I was like, bro, this is basically just free money or free, you know, a free incentive for you to get.
But, well, we can't get a hundred percent ROI.
So Baggy, what's going on?
Hey, thank you for the stage.
Nice topic.
What can I say?
It's, it's one of the most important topic that we need to look forward, you know, when we build a business, when we build a project, when, you know, we, how, how can we bring people from, from web two to web three, you know?
And the problem is majority of projects, like 90% of projects in web three are not focused in that direction, you know, because majority of projects in web three want to make very fast money, you know, and to not focus in the direction of building something real for future and to create more product for a lot of people, you know?
So, so when, when this focus will start to be there, we will see a real revolution in web three, like we will see people that will come here because we have a lot of people that build a lot of stuff, but majority of stuff are built for, for web three, you know?
So not for web two, like I saw a lot of people, a lot of projects that build by bots, you know, volume bots, or, you know, majority of them have like that.
And in that moment, you don't bring nothing in web three, you know, we just bring just some fake volumes for fake, fake project, you know, like what you bring with that, you know, how, you know, it's, it's, it's just on chart, you, you don't bring, bring something real, you know?
And, and, and when we will see project, we see more project that will, will, will, will, will, will, will make the connection between, between money, utility of, of blockchain and fun, we will see a real revolution.
And I really believe that gaming will bring this kind of stuff soon because it's, it's, it's, it will be, will not, will not be a web three gaming or something.
No, but we will bring people here that will start to make money.
And we have people that make money from gaming.
And, but, but the thing is we need to, the, the first thing that need web three to understand is this blockchain.
It's not a casino.
And when people will understand that all the project will go in the direction of building and you will start to find people that will work for that.
And the problem is, it's very hard to find someone that you can work with here, you know, because majority of them want to make very fast money with you and to, uh, fuck you in the final.
And so you, you to try to find all the times, um, someone else, because me personally, I, I, I, I had a lot of, a lot of connection with different people that work for me and with me.
And all what I can say to you is no one was, was, was, was on the, on the, on the, on the deadline.
Nobody, uh, was after that again to me to start to continue to build, you know, because they was busy, you know, we need real people that know to work for the first, you know, because they don't know.
And the majority of people here are, uh, uh, uh, never working in, in the back, never had an iron job or something like that.
And they think that they are here just for fast, fast, fast money, but we are here to change.
We're here to create some good stuff.
I see a lot of people here that are real builders and, uh, yeah, the, the, the future is bright.
And someone said in, in, in, uh, in, in, in baggy space, uh, um, one hour ago said that we will see, uh, the next 10, 20 years in crypto that will be revolutionary.
Maybe after that, we'll not be like that because all the time people want to, uh, uh, enter more into, uh, make maybe more money from that.
But the next 10, 20 years will be amazing and we will see a real revolution here and real people that will build a lot of stuff.
Thank you for the space, man.
Nice space, nice topic, nice people here.
Oh, thank you very much.
And awesome to have you up.
You actually dropped some really great takes as well.
And talking about the gaming side, that's a whole different topic.
Cause on the gaming side, I'll say gaming is not really there yet for web three and the onboarding way, but thankfully there's a good game.
There's actually onboarding people from web two into web three, which is off the grid.
I'm always saying it on spaces, but all of the web three games have a whole lot of stuff to actually get in place before anything.
And, um, the PVP mentality is something crazy in the web three space, but I feel it's something normies or retail coming into the space newly are not really exposed to at this point, but eventually they would.
And yeah, I do agree with you.
It's something is a mentality that needs to be shifted.
It's something that needs to be changed because in the bullish times of NFTs and memes and 2021, that cow mentality didn't exist.
So yeah, we need to just go back to the roots, change our thinking and get things going.
Um, before I go to you live TV, I would need to ask the next question and, you know, keep it rolling.
Then we can move to you or any other speaker like wants to jump in.
Um, so the next question is, you know, talking about this right now, this conversation we just had, how important do you think it is?
You know, partnering with web two, a partnership between web two and web three companies, how important do you think those kind of collaborations are and what kind of ways do you think we could achieve that?
So anyway, go for it.
Well, Zinn, what up, man?
I want to say thanks for having me up.
Um, appreciate you having the space.
Baggy.
Yeah, I'll have to bounce.
So let me go.
I'll go for it.
Um, I think, again, it's a really important question of web two to web three.
There are three kinds of companies.
One are companies who are, you know, still digitally in the early stages of transformation.
But there are lots of companies in the web two space who are very eager for what potentially web three could bring to four.
And these companies are what I like to call web 2.5 companies.
And these are companies that have the willingness but don't necessarily know what the ROI is going to be and what's the use case, how they can deploy them, what could be a new business model.
And I think that's where a lot of us might have to play the role of educators as well, co-creators of new use cases, and then build a business model, which is a win-win, rather than stay to, to just, you know, letting it be about solutions in need for problems.
Web two companies, web 2.5 companies already have many problems for which the blockchain space could offer new insights.
And I feel that our role should be to, you know, to be, to be people who can co-create those solutions for real problems that people have in the web two space and build a business model again, which can complement it and think for the long term.
Web two companies are not necessarily looking for a quick buck, which many people, unfortunately, in the crypto space could be.
They have different needs.
Their user profile is different, but yes, WebTree could be a huge asset for them.
And I think we should take our role responsibly.
There's lots of interesting things happening on the regulator side globally.
And I think for us and for everybody else, it's something that we look forward to.
It has been truly wonderful to be part of this.
But yeah, did you want to say something?
No, I was just going to say thank you so much for coming up.
And I understand that you have to leave.
And also thank you for the great take that actually dropped now.
We do know that, yes, the web people aren't like as, I don't know, as PVP as we are in Web 3.
And, you know, it all comes down to solution at the end of the day.
Just as you said, it's about building solutions for people in Web 2 and they will slowly find their way into Web 3.
That's just like a wonderful point coming from you.
And yeah, thank you so much for joining us today.
And I guess we'll be looking forward to catching you up on Spaces like some other time, whenever you're free to go.
Sure thing.
Yeah, we're going to keep coming back now.
Thank you so much.
I'll definitely be looking forward to it.
Live TV, go for it.
Yeah, whatever, brother.
Sorry for the interruption earlier.
I wanted to piggyback on what Baggy was saying.
I think Web 3 gaming is going to be the biggest onboarding of Web 3, Web 2 to Web 3, because people are going to do it without realizing they're actually doing it.
The problem with Web 3 games in 2020 and 2021 and stuff was a bunch of blockchain people trying to make a Web 3 game.
And if people do know anything about game development, any game that is worth playing takes about four to five years and millions and millions of dollars to develop.
So there was blockchain guys trying to develop a game.
And then now, after all these gaming studios caught on board about the whole, you know, Web 3 construct with gaming, they started developing back then.
And now you're seeing those games, like Off the Grid, come out that took years upon years to develop, are actually playable, that actually can compete with AAAs.
And people, I was watching some of those streamers, and they're like, oh, like, wait a minute, I can grind for this camo and I can sell it on a market.
Yeah, dude, that's what happened with Diablo 3, I believe.
Well, that market eats shit because the economics were horrible.
If Off the Grid can do the economics and the tokenomics correctly, then I think they're going to be onboard a lot more normies than we think.
And then one more thing, as far as onboarding Web 2 people, I think you need to leverage every single one of your social media accounts to bring people into your Web 3 project.
I think you should be platform agnostic.
I think you need to have some sort of connection, something that's already very familiar with people.
You can't just, like, create something new and then just expect people to latch on to it.
You have to have an emotional connection of some sort.
Maybe it be nostalgia, like Super S down there.
Or maybe it be, I don't know, just doing things that people are already used to doing, but with a Web 3 construct attached to it.
Like, bro, if I'm just going to say one thing, I really love your take.
It's a take you actually said right now.
Like, there are really, really good takes.
And especially coming down to the fact that we actually need to, like, market our product across platforms on Web 2, which is something that most projects in Web 3 don't actually look at.
So, like, personally, right, working with a project as well, I literally advise them to be like, bro, you could just do your marketing, like, post up videos on TikTok, post it out on Instagram, on YouTube, have it everywhere.
So, people would see it because at the end of the day, Web 3 itself is just a bubble.
And we actually need to, like, we don't need to keep focusing in the same bubble, being like, okay, yeah, we just need to get our audiences within here.
But we could actually reach outside and, you know, grab some attention there and bring them into Web 3, into our products personally.
So, that was a really great take.
So, I think Effie had his hand up next.
So, after Effie, Dappup, go for it.
Yeah, thank you.
Then we keep passing it around.
Yeah, I have to leave soon too.
So, I appreciate it.
Okay.
So, as for the partnership between Web 3 and Web 3 companies, I guess it's very crucial because specifically in my sector, which is a Web 3 wellness environment, my target market is the Web 3 users.
So, the initial target market is the Web 3 users who have wallets on their phone.
And based on the latest reports that A16Z released, I guess, a few weeks ago, up until June this year, we have about 29 million active mobile wallets.
So, which means like 29 million people have wallets on their phone that can potentially use their wallets to come on board for my application, as an example.
But if I want to expand my market, it only happens if I have a partnership with a Web 2 company, such as, for example, Whoop.
Whoop has like over 125 million users.
They're already in wellness, so they're targeted for me.
They're paying for the product to the Whoop, and it's the easiest, you know, market to achieve because if I can make the partnership with a Whoop, it's like free money for the users to come on board and use Snooze Up and get incentives by following some challenges.
And that's a way for my market, technically, to go to the next level instead of just focusing on the 29 million mobile users in Web 3, I can focus on multi-hundreds of millions of users that have wearables.
And they can potentially earn money by a partnership with a Web 2 and Web 3 company.
Okay, let me jump in real quick before Dappup goes for it.
I find it, should I say, I find it a little bit incorrect in the sense that, you know, projects come up with metrics determining how many wallets we have on chain.
Because personally, like right now, I can say each person might literally have a total of near like 10 wallets to one person.
So it kind of like throws the figure off a little bit and makes it quite obvious that we're pretty, pretty small in the Web 3 space.
But, you know, of course, metric is super important to like, you know, check out stuff and go for it.
But we need to be actually larger.
We need to onboard people into the space.
And, you know, I actually love your take anyway and love like, you know, all you said with having to focus on Web 3 since that's where the audience is and your integrations and partnerships with, you know, the platform you named as well.
So that's super wonderful.
And thank you so much for coming up on the space today.
We'll be looking forward to like catching our future spaces as well.
I don't understand you need to like leave.
And we are actually on the hour mark, but maybe we're going to like pass this over a little bit over the hour.
I'm sorry, guys.
But yeah, we'll of course try to wrap this up soon.
Thank you, Effie.
And I guess we'll be looking forward to catching your own spaces later.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Have a good one.
Have a good one, bro.
Depo, please go for it.
Yeah.
You know, thank you guys for having us.
I'll stop the loop.
So I'll make it really quick.
I think, I think the partnerships that need to be made, again, when we think about it, like web, who was reading us a term and, you know, give credit to the 21 pause, man.
It's, we can't keep labeling.
It's really just an evolution.
That's, that's really all it is.
Like more companies are going to become web three companies at one point.
Like that's just, this evolution, right?
Web one, where the internet was really only like reading and kind of writing.
Then web two, you know, you'd be able to interact with different people across the world, you know, and the web three, you know, it's the ownership and it's the actual like infrastructure that's being like decentralized.
So, you know, like Nike, you know, Nike does on-chain stuff with dot swoosh and things like that.
So to be honest, I think it's just us going to them and saying, hey, this is how you can leverage this technology and just evolve as a company.
I mean, you know, every company wants to make more money every year.
And this is a growing, and if, if, if this ecosystem is growing every year, you know, like it has, then, you know, then they're going to, you know, be becoming us pretty soon as well.
So, so I have, thank you guys so much.
Again, I'm Travis from Dap Hub Browser.
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But thank you guys.
Bro, thank you so much for, you know, always coming out to join us.
So spaces like right now, I should be giving you co-host, bro.
So thank you so much for coming out here to join us and also for your wonderful takes.
And I guess we'll be looking forward to like catching you up on, catching up with you on future spaces as well.
So I have a great one, bro.
21, before we move to Baggyanshi Base, 21, please go for it.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I didn't know if we moved on to a new question or which one were we answering?
What was the question?
Oh, it was literally the same.
Hold on.
Let me try to get it again.
It was something real simple.
And I had something to say, but I forgot.
I know if you read it, if you tell me the question, I'll remember.
The right answer is from everybody.
That's when you know it's a good space when you forgot what you were going to say because you're listening to the answer.
It's like all Web3 projects partnering with Web3 companies and what kind of collaborations achieve.
Oh, yeah, of course.
So we don't want to leave Web2 behind.
We want to bring Web2 to Web3.
So, yes, absolutely, collab.
Show them what it's about.
Show them how to use it.
A lot of these Web2 companies don't know how to cross over.
Or, you know, like when the Internet came out and businesses were still putting flyers on the cars.
You know, they didn't know how to use the Internet for marketing and stuff like that.
That's bring them into the way, bring them into Web3 with us, you know, and make it stronger.
If we teach them right, teach them how to do things and show them.
And then when we make Web3 stronger, we can actually make it what we want to make it by what we teach our brothers and sisters in this space.
And that's what everybody forgets.
You know, like it's yeah, it's about us, but it's about everyone's when you build outward.
Make it to where you're building with people, you know, build for people.
Hell, one of the biggest things Paul Shane does in these chats we have is we help people.
You need help building a deck's cool.
Let's freaking slap that shit together.
We don't care.
We've got 70 plus devs, dude.
We'll help you build.
You know, it's not about just, oh, hey, if you're not going to build with us, then fuck you.
You know what I mean?
No, we don't do that, man.
We what do you need help building?
What do you where where where where are you stuck at with your project?
Let's get this done and then we can talk more about working together in the future.
But let's help get you going.
You know, like none of us can do it on our own.
We all want a moon.
We all want to do this, but not a single one of these projects can do it on our own.
And we don't stand a chance on our own.
We need the volume of everyone on a blockchain.
We need that.
People get so competitive.
And they're like, oh, yeah, I want to do that.
I'll do this.
Man, we don't matter.
We need each and every transaction on this blockchain.
That way, when we go for mass adoption and we have that brochure, it looks like people are using the blockchain.
That's what it's for.
That's what we need.
And we need a way to show these other networks.
Everyone can eat.
Everyone can eat like pigs.
We can stuff our faces off.
There's enough room for everyone.
That's what we all need to understand.
There should be no competition in Web3, Web2, any project, any chain.
Man, there is so much room at this crypto table.
We can eat 10 times over again and still take food home.
There's absolutely no reason to be dogging each other and not working together.
You know, if we work together and we get together and scream blockchain, people are going to hear us as opposed to sitting on this corner of crypto Twitter that we're in and screaming ETH over poly and my project over your project.
Nobody hears that shit.
And they damn sure don't want to come into a crypto Twitter where we're all arguing and being maxis and saying, oh, mine's better.
Mine's worse.
Yours is this.
Mine is that.
Who cares?
We all need to get together and make this thing of ours called blockchain absolutely shine like the gem it is.
And then let's talk mass adoption.
And I guarantee you those people are going to hear us.
So the faster we can get away from calling it Web2, Web3, like I said, it's not going to stop there.
Eventually, we're going to be on Web10.
So what's it going to matter if it's Web2 or Web3 at this point?
Right.
Don't waste your energy.
Just let's keep building, keep building forward and keep building together.
You know what I mean?
That's that's one of the best parts about I love being in the position that I'm in because I can connect with meme coins.
I can connect with completely useless coins.
It just want to do it for the community.
I can connect with protocols.
I can integrate frickin blockchain, you know, layer ones, layer twos.
We can absolutely help everyone.
And that's what we do.
And that's what we love about Paul chain.
That's where the energy comes from.
And that's what's going to carry us through to be able to have a fully functional Web4, Web4, Web5, Web6.
That's what we're excited about.
That's what we're building for.
So, you know, Web2 is cool.
Web3 is even better.
But what if we combine them and then we get to Web4?
That's just going to be badass.
But we have to do it together.
We got to do it together.
That's what we got to remember.
You know, there's enough room for everybody.
Trust me.
We can all eat and eat well.
So let's start acting like it, you know, helping our brothers and sisters.
We are each other's keepers.
So let's not let's not draw lines in the sand.
Let's just frickin cross over them and draw a map in the sand on how to get to this, you know, drop draw a treasure map instead of drawing lines in the sand.
You know, you know, you know, right.
I've always wondered where that energy comes from.
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we go.
Yes.
Twenty one.
We got energy again.
And I get that a lot.
But you know why?
Because I've been in this space for a long time, bro.
And I've never been able to sit up here in a space and I'll keep it 100 with y'all real quick.
And as hunters, I can be up until Paul chain.
Yeah, we go in spaces.
We show we say things, but it's not you know, it's not doing nothing for nobody.
It's mainly to buy my coin, buy my coin.
I'm up here selling the utility of a lot chain.
That's where the energy comes from.
I love being able to help each and every one of these founders in this space and then some and actually be able to fucking deliver.
Like when I tell you I can do a cheaper, safer, faster, bro, I got you.
This is it.
Like, that's what I get bullish and I get excited on.
Like the time is here.
No more talking.
No more.
Trust me, bro.
I got the data.
I got the numbers.
I got projects deployed.
I've got I've got integrated blockchains into a block chain.
I've got a gas free wallet.
I've got this shit like it ain't no more talk, bro.
Like I've got it right here in my face.
And it's for it's for us to use together.
So that's where the energy comes from.
It ain't about, you know, it's one thing to shield.
But I get up here and I mean that shit like from the bottom of my heart and any everything that I believe in, bro.
And this is the one time that I can give back to the space and give back to the world and make this shit better again.
So that's where the bullishness comes from.
It's about, you know, I've heard a lot of sales pitches, man.
But this one here, this one here, I can mean and I mean it with every bit of my heart.
So that's where the passion comes from, because it's absolutely true.
We fucking did it for once.
We fucking did it.
You know what?
You know what?
Right now I'm going to pass the hit to somebody else.
Now, I want to see the energy coming from the next specimen is going to take over this mic.
She bays go for it.
Because I definitely saw you hand up.
Don't chicken out on me right now.
Oh, no, no.
Definitely not.
Come on, man.
What's up with these guys?
Oh, come on, man.
No, I'm just here.
I was just hearing and I'm just listening.
And I think it's an interesting topic.
I'm just going to keep it on the topic that you have on this space.
And I think, yeah, just from my own experience, yeah, bringing it to the mass is always great.
But we see that we still have some problems also within Web3 as well.
And the fun fact of it happened two days ago when I was just exploring, you know, what I needed basically for my project.
And I couldn't even find anything about it.
I was like, hey, what's going on here?
I, myself, I'm a builder with my team as well.
We have this project at this moment, but we are builders.
I have my other project that is more, that's not a meme coin.
It's really a decentralized.
We're creating a decentralized streaming platform with the other project that I have from all my developers.
And that is more seriously.
But I like building.
And I saw a problem within the meme coin system as well, ecosystem.
I was like, yeah, the structure that you need in order to navigate within Web3 isn't there.
So I was like, yeah, I made immediately a call to my devs.
I said, hey, we need to build something for these guys because I, myself, couldn't find anything about it.
I'm sorry for, what's his name?
I know you said about then, no competition, et cetera.
And I think it's healthy at the same time because it keeps you sharp as a project as well.
But at the same time, I was like, yeah, we need to find a solution to the problem that I found.
And I spoke to several people about it that are, you know, the topic itself.
And they were quite excited about it.
So within now and probably five days, the design is finished.
And then from there on, we'll start to create the MVP within now in three weeks.
Then we will push it.
And I think a lot of people will be very excited about to see what is happening.
And I think also regarding in decentralization and Web2 and Web3, we will be definitely finding, you know, seeing a lot of hybrid forms of, you know, Web2 and Web3 before we even fully are compatible to work in a functioning Web3 environment.
So I'm really for it, but I think there needs to be adoption, especially in a structure-wise in order to, you know, be fully into Web3.
And I would say Web2 is not that bad, but of course, we can definitely take some, we can make it all together and mix it up to a hybrid form.
And then from there on, go straight away to Web3.
I think that would be the transition that you need.
And that is what I saw yesterday of two days ago.
So that is my take on it.
I really like it.
And also the people in just in general, in the decentralized environment, I really like that.
Everybody wants to help each other.
That is definitely true.
And we should definitely do that.
But I still think that, you know, competition is very healthy as well, just to keep it sharp as well.
So that's my point.
Yeah, of course, yeah, of course, there's definitely something called LD competition.
So, yeah, yeah, I do get that.
But, you know, nobody needs the toxic kind of competition.
So just like put it out there.
I'm pretty sure that's what 21 meant.
So, yeah, great take as well.
Baggy, please go for it.
And so we're about to round up the space.
So please, like, maybe make it quick.
Then we could, like, round up.
For sure, for sure.
So look at that.
I was to a company here in Romania to speak about the game, to build a game with them in crypto.
And they said to me, man, you know, we tried to make a game, but crypto is a scam, so we don't want.
And it's a big, big company with hundreds of millions of dollars.
So in that moment, I said, man, wait a second.
These guys, Web2, don't want to enter in crypto, you know.
And I really, and of course, maybe some companies want, but majority of them don't want because, especially in gaming, they give power to people, you know.
They give power to players.
And they don't want to give power to players, you know, make, like, to make an exit, to take all the money back and to put in their pockets or something like that, or to change and, you know, to not use the money in the platform, you know, to be like, to win, you know.
They don't want people to win in gaming.
So with that thing, I said, man, so you need to create something in crypto, in Web3.
And I really believe that we don't really, of course, it's not a problem to come, but we don't really need Web2 in Web3.
We have a lot of money here, a lot of money.
And we don't really need, like, EA to come here, you know.
Okay, stay there.
We don't need you.
We can build ourselves, like, we have a lot of companies, especially, specialized on gaming.
You can speak with them.
They can build a game for you from zero to finish, you know.
So we have people here that build businesses around crypto, around Web3.
So it's kind of tricky.
Maybe they have money, but we have money too, you know.
And it's not a competition, but they put this kind of competition here, you know.
So it's like, oh, look at that.
They want to take our job.
No, man, we build something else.
We have a lot of people that will work here.
So we have a lot of money.
Let's go.
Let's build.
But, yeah, they will not want.
And, of course, we will build for sure.
Let's go.
Of course, thank you so much.
I'm just trying to, like, keep the speakers, like, not keep the speakers too long, because I know they definitely have other things to do.
So I just wanted to round it up.
Thank you guys for coming up on the space as well, like, popping in and dropping your takes.
But before we go, don't worry.
I'm still going to give you, like, a chance to, like, do some final things that we usually do on the space, which is the call to action.
So 21 pause, a call to action.
And, yeah, then I'll pass it around.
21 pause.
Go for it.
Short, sweet, quick.
Yep.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Yeah, I'm going to keep it short.
I'm going to keep it short.
Man, if you've got a project, you want to do anything, you want to put anything on the blockchain, cheaper, safer, faster, come see us.
You know, we're audited by Certik.
We're locked in.
We're builders.
We're serious about it.
If you have a project, come see me.
One liquidity pool, I can put you on multiple chains.
One NFT collection, I can have your holders on multiple chains.
One dap, people are going to be using it on multiple chains with just one deployment of your work.
If you've got a project, please, let's talk.
Solana Connection coming soon.
We've got nine, ten EVMs with about three or four more on the way.
Also, if you've got a project, you're interested in doing Amsterdam, come March 2025, I'm an ambassador for Web3 Meet Global Media.
Hit me up, man.
We can get you there.
We need some speakers.
We need some projects.
We've got a lot of great projects going on, and now is the time to get in.
So, yeah, definitely hit me up.
It's going to be a bullish.
I think Zen Radio is going to be there.
I know WolfSwap is going to be there.
Juju will be there.
We're going to be live, blowing big, doing our thing, man, and networking and talking about this blockchain stuff.
So, yeah, man, y'all get with me for sure.
We're builders.
We're here to do it cheaper, safer, faster.
So, yeah, the next step is on you.
Hit me up, and let's link, and let's build outward, and let's talk.
I always appreciate the invites, Zen, and I'll see you all Friday, I think, is the next one we have scheduled.
Definitely be there, brother.
Yes, sir.
So, definitely Friday.
Keep it going.
Oh, God, I'm too excited right now.
Like, you know, you just keep having bullish news and bullish updates and things for us to, like, catch up with.
So, I'm definitely going to be looking forward to having your space on Friday and also looking forward to, you know, Web3 Amsterdam as well that you're talking about.
And, um, Bob in Africa, I didn't get your name.
You didn't tell us your name.
I guess you're keeping that a secret.
But please do tell us your name.
So, I don't keep calling you Bob in Africa, my bro.
And also a quick call to action.
Okay, okay, okay.
So, my name is Sylvester.
So, I'll be joining this call from a personal handle.
That's if you'd want me to do that.
So, my name is Sylvester.
So, basically, I mentioned earlier that Bybit is one of the top crypto exchanges in the world currently.
And I talked about a few other things that we've integrated that makes us one of the best places you should actually trade.
So, I talked about the fact that we have integrated our forest pairs.
So, which means you can currently trade for us on Bybit.
And we have also integrated a DEX on Bybit.
So, yeah.
So, let's run it up.
Come over.
You heard it from the man.
Let's run it up.
Let's run it up on Bybit.
Well, I'm already running it up out there.
So, if you don't want to be left behind, just run it up there.
And hopefully, I just pray soon enough, they're going to, like, have the time to list up our meme coins.
And, you know, pump my bags.
Sorry.
Just pump my bags.
Web 3 Warrior, I can see you raising your hand.
But I'm going to be, like, closing the speech right now.
I'm just doing quick calls to actions before I close it out.
Shebaze, a call to action.
You're free to talk about it.
But keep it short and sweet.
Then live Twitch, you as well.
Next, after Shebaze.
Shebaze?
Yeah, sorry, sorry.
I was brushing my teeth.
Sorry.
Yeah, man.
So, sorry, man, guys.
What were you saying?
Yeah, it's late here.
So, that's right.
I'm in Amsterdam.
So, I'm definitely going to connect with 21.
But, yeah.
Sorry.
What was your question?
Oh, yeah.
I just said a final quick, like, call to action before I round up the space.
So, something short, sweet, and direct.
I would say, yeah, definitely follow us on X, also on TG for some nice updates.
And, indeed, what 21 already has mentioned, you know, we have to do it all together.
So, yeah, try to follow each other and see, you know, how we can support each other.
So, I like that.
So, yeah, that's my take on this.
Thank you very much.
And, live Twitch, you're next.
Yeah, everybody.
If you're a project and you want me to stream your chart live on all of my platforms, I think there's 13 of them simultaneously, come into the chats, save it up, drop the CA.
I'm live every single day.
I've been live for 232 days straight since launch.
We're about to cross 100K market cap.
Come jump in.
Oh, nice.
Now, that's something definitely interesting.
I could, I could show up in the DMs and, you know, we could see what's up.
And, okay, for me, I'm just going to say I host the space every Wednesday at the same time, you know, that's 8 p.m. UTC.
So, you should, like, anybody, just feel free to jump in, listen in, get some alpha.
And if you're a project, you're trying to come up to speak, you can definitely reach out to me in the DMs.
We set up a schedule, like, tap you into the speakers for the next week.
And, you know, we could just get this right in.
And also, talking about our sponsors, we have Saviors Web 3, which is literally a DAO for NFTs.
And, you know, basically any alpha if you're looking into trying to belong to a community.
And we also have WolfSwap, which is a DEX aggregator on multiple chains, such as Chronos Base, Polygon, Say, Chronos DKVM, AVAX, Blast, you know, all those chains.
And listing on the platform is free.
There's no listing fee.
All the features are free, easy to access, easy to use.
It's a gamified experience.
You use it, you earn.
And, you know, you can just reach out to them as well in the DMs or fill a listing form if you're a token.
And if you're trying to, like, swap and earn rewards while you swap, WolfSwap is definitely the place for you to be.
And, you know, you've heard the call to action from everybody up here on the speaker panel as well.
So, please do well to, like, check everyone out, drop follows, you know, check what is cooking behind, like, the project.
You might just find something you love.
So, thank you guys for joining me up here on the speaker panel.
And also, thank you down to the listeners as well for coming in here to, like, you know, listen to us.
You could be doing anything, but you took out your time to come here and hang out with us.
So, thank you so much, guys.
And I'll be looking forward to catch you on the Zen Radio Space next week, Wednesday.
Thank you all.
And hasta la vista, baby.
And I'll be seeing you on the Zen Radio Space Next Week.
