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Building the Universal Blockchain for Bitcoin and Beyond
Recorded: June 9, 2025 Duration: 0:42:58Space Recording
Short Summary
Zeta Chain is making waves in the crypto space with its ambitious project aimed at unifying multiple blockchain ecosystems, highlighted by strategic partnerships with Coinbase and Google Cloud. With a user base growing from 5 million to 8.5 million, the platform is set to launch new integrations and ecosystem apps, further enhancing its innovative offerings.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. so
mic check mic check send some reactions guys if you can hear me well
oh good oh good then welcome back to cryptic talks the show where we go beyond the noise
to explore the infrastructure shaping the next era of the internet i'm a usual host paul speaks managing relations
at pr at cryptic and today we're diving deep into one of the most ambitious projects in the
blockchain space zeta chain the so-called universal blockchain that's aiming to connect bitcoin ethereum
cosmos and beyond under one seamless architecture in a world where fragmentation bridges and
isolated ecosystems dominate the crypto experience that a chain is trying something fundamentally
different a layer one blockchain with native cross chain capabilities smart contract support
for non-smart contract chains like bitcoin and a bold vision for Unified Web3. And here with me today to unpack the details of the universal blockchain for Bitcoin and
Biot, Alex Kim, ecosystem lead at Zeta Chain.
So feel free to unmute yourself, Alex.
Give us some heads up on how is your mood today, your background as well, some intro
to our listeners.
Hi, everyone.
Great to be here.
Yeah, great to be here today. My name is Alex, ecosystem lead here at ZetaChain.
Previous to ZetaChain, I was with BNBChain for about two years, doing BD for them as well, across BNBChain and corp development as well.
And then previously, I just did a couple startups with some friends. Some failed, some did quite well.
I just did a couple of startups with some friends.
Some failed, some did quite well.
Yeah, and now I've always been a Web3 native.
So yeah, very great to be here sharing the knowledge of it.
Awesome. And how is your mood today?
Good. It's pretty rainy here in New York City.
So it's going to rain all week this week.
Well, I hope there's going to be some sunshine across the week too.
Not to dispel your mood.
But dear listeners, today we're going to have pretty, pretty interesting conversation. some sunshine across the week too, not to dispel your mood.
But dear listeners, today we're going to have pretty, pretty interesting conversation.
And with the experience previously from BNB chain, I'm sure that we can reveal a lot of different details.
And with over 8.5 million users, a growing ecosystem of universal apps and major partnerships like Coinbase,
OnRamp and Google Cloud. This isn't a theoretical white paper. It's real infrastructure in motions.
Today's conversation breaks down what makes Zeta Chain different, how its universal EVM and
OmniChain smart contracts work, and why universal apps could redefine how we interact with
decentralized technology. So whether you are a developer, an investor, or just crypto curious,
this episode will give you a front row seat to one of the most compelling efforts to solve
crypto's interoperability puzzle without sacrificing decentralization or user experience.
So buckle up, we're going to unpack what it means to build the
universal blockchain for Bitcoin and beyond. And the first question with which I want to talk to
you today, Alex, is like Zedchain has been described as a universal blockchain, right?
But could you elaborate on what this actually means and the core vision behind it?
what this actually means and the core vision behind it sure so simply put for any developer
right now you have to launch multi-chain smart contracts right so if you're on eith
and you want to launch on bmb chain you have to write another smart contract
and if you're on if you're a d5 project you have to find liquidity for that chain as well. So the universal blockchain
is simply eliminating developers having to do separate smart contract deployments on all these
chains and finding liquidity for all these new chain integrations. Instead, you launch on Zeta
chain once, you write and launch your smart contract on Zeta Chain just once. And a user can connect their wallets from EVM,
even native Bitcoin, and Solana.
And you can use your assets as if it's on one chain.
You only need liquidity on Zeta Chain.
You only need your smart contracts on Zeta Chain.
And you can access users from all these connected chains.
That's pretty simple explanation. That's good. so it's not just a marketing tag it's uh points to
very deliberate architectural and philosophical sense from my point in a blockchain ecosystem
and um from my view the term universal refers to zeta chain's ability to natively connect and interact with virtually
all blockchains including both evm and non-evm chains and even those without smart contract
functionality like bitcoin what distinguishes zeta chain is how i see it from others is the
interoperability space uh that it isn't just. It's a layer-one blockchain that can directly orchestrate actions
across multiple networks through building cross-chain capabilities.
And that fundamentally changes the game because historically,
interoperability has depended on third-party bridges,
wrapped tokens, or cumbersome relays that often introduce security risks or user friction and
your model is more elegant and integrated it it leverages something called omni chain
smart contracts right which are contracts deployed on data chain that can read from and
write to contracts on external chains that's makes sense please correct me if I'm wrong because
I'm not from a technical uh experience I was trying to research uh today's topic uh and I
hope my thoughts not gonna not gonna be too dumb but so the universal part isn't just about technical
compatibility it's about building the foundational infrastructure that brings coherence to the multi-chain chaos we're
living in and the other chain is trying to replace it isn't isn't trying to replace ethereum or solana
but trying to make them all work together like never before and that if realized could be one
of the most important shifts in crypto since ethereum introduced smart contracts that's
interesting but how does the other chain aim to address the challenges of blockchain
fragmentation and interoperability in the current crypto landscape?
Sure.
So, I mean, I think it's already happening.
I think it's actually happening wherever you go.
People just choose to ignore it.
If you go on any DEXs or the really great example is GMX.
They're natively on Arbitrum, but then once they did a multi-chain expansion into Avalanche and other chains, no one really cared.
No one really cared about the users that were on those other chains because the liquidity is the largest and the deepest on Arbitrum.
So for GMX, it was most likely a sunk cost, right?
They probably got some co-marketing out of it, but it was a sunk cost for them.
There's no users coming from those chains
because there's no liquidity.
There's no money.
So users just end up going back to Arbitron
to use GMX on there.
I mean, that's pretty much
what's already happening in crypto.
Even if you look at PancakeSwap right now,
do you think you can have the same liquidity
of BNB on Ethereum?
You can't.
BNB, you can really only find a PancakeSwap
on BNB chain that has the
deepest liquidity for it so people are already figuring this out i mean it's what we're currently
using we're just choosing to ignore it and every time you want to go to a different chain to swap
any one of these assets you have to create a new wallet you have to switch networks and then you
have to bridge etc zeta chain removes all that complexity
there is no bridging required at all um so even when a user bridges from native bitcoin i mean
if a user wants to swap from native bitcoin to native bnb they can do that in a one-click
experience there's no getting a wrapped version there is no using that wrapped version then going
to another liquidity pool on a different chain, then bridging it to redeem it.
No, everything is completely one click on Zeta Chain.
So we remove all that complexity of liquidity fragmentation.
We remove that complexity of bridging.
We remove the complexity of users having to switch different networks.
And you just use an app on Zeta Chain using any wallet from any of our connected chains and use it as is.
use an app on zeta chain using any wallet from any of our connected chains and use it as is
interesting point that it's already happening but we're just ignoring that
that's good that we can acknowledge that in in this twitter space because no one not a lot of
people can understand that i think the blockchain fragmentation is one of the most persistent challenges in the crypto is
uh like masses can see it every major chain has its own ecosystem developer tools user wallets
consensus rules and often its own ideology this sealed architecture limits composability and
splits liquidity and creates a nightmare for developers who want to build truly universal
applications. And do you guys take this issue you had on with the layer one blockchain that has
built in interoperability as a core primitive, not like a plugin or afterthought? I like your
vision, how you see it, how you described it in very simple terms. Unlike traditional approaches
that rely on third party bridges or relays, which have historically been high-value targets for exploits,
Zeta Chain employs a unique combination of different signature,
I think it calls TSS and cross-chain message-passing mechanism
that allows the chain itself to observe and act upon events from external blockchains.
This kind of removes the need for external validators or trust assumptions
outside of the protocol's own concessions layer.
And in tackling this interoperability at the base layer level,
you're making a bold architecture statement too.
It's like, it's not patching fragmentation.
It's rethinking how blockchain coordination should work from the first principles.
That's a much needed intervention in a space that has too long relied on short-term fixes
like token wrapping or centralized bridges.
And perhaps most importantly, it does this without demanding that like legacy chains,
like Bitcoin changed their code base
or adapt smart contracts
that respect for existing networks
coupled with the means to extend their functionality.
It's a pragmatic and strategic way
to bridge old and new crypto worlds.
I love that. But also, you have a concept, universal apps. Can you please explain this
to us and to me also, how they differ from traditional decentralized applications?
Yeah, universal apps are not to be confused. They're the same decentralized
applications. But universal apps are pretty much what we just talked about, which is you launch
one smart contract on Zeta Chain and any user from any chain can use their wallet and access it.
So some of the live universal apps that we have on Zeta Chain are Beamdex, which is a DEX on Zeta
Chain. But you can connect your Bitcoin wallet,
you can connect your EVM wallets, and you can connect your Solana wallet. And you can swap
between native Bitcoin to native Solana. You can swap between native Bitcoin to, I don't know,
Ethereum. Or you can even swap your native Bitcoin to BNB, all in one click. There's no
bridges on Beam. The second universal app that we have is called Amana.
So you can deposit into any yield strategy contracts.
It's a yield aggregator platform.
If there's 5% on Ava, on Ethereum,
you can connect your Solana wallet
and you can use your native Solana to deposit into this wallet
in one click.
There's no bridges. And it's just a one click experience.
These are what universal apps are compared to traditional decentralized
applications where it's the same thing that we just talked about, where you
have multiple different networks and you have fragmented liquidity.
It's just a one click experience.
Any user from any chain can just use any wallet and you just click once and you can swap
deposit whatever that's pretty convenient i would say and from my perspective yeah like universal
apps are kind of a new class of decentralized application that can interact with multiple
blockchains natively and simultaneously,
thanks to the underlying architecture of the data chain.
And unlike traditional dApps, which are typically confined to a single chain and require manual integration with other sphere, bridges or separate smart contracts, universal apps live
on the data chain and extend their functionality across any connected network
the the distinction here is subtle but really powerful as i see it traditional depths are
like desktop software designed for a specific operating system if you wanted to work on another
os you often need a whole new version and universal apps and contras are like web apps that work
seamlessly across browsers devices and platforms because they are built on a universal layer in
this case data chain and i think that this unlocks entirely new use cases like imagine a lending
protocol that accepts uh eth and bdc and stable coins from multiple chains all managed within one smart
contract right or a cross-chain governance style where votes uh cost in one ecosystem affect
contracts in another with no relays or intermediaries that's the level of native interoperability we're
talking about and i think that there is also a long-term strategic benefit here too. By making it easier to build cross-chain,
the data chain is essentially encouraging developers to create apps that transcend tribalism.
We've seen how chain loyalty can lead to fragmentation and even toxic community behavior.
And universal apps could ideally shift the conversation from which chain
is better to what does your app do and who does it serve. And I think that moreover, in today's
market, building on a single chain can be risky. What if that chain loses traction or becomes
cost prohibitive? Universal apps mitigate that risk as i understand it by allowing
developers to access the best features of every chain without locking themselves into one
ecosystem that's optionality at the code level and in a broader context of the decentralized
internet universal apps could be seen as a multi-chain version of the early internet's
platform agnostic web apps they represent
a unification layer not just technically but also ideal ideologically sorry focusing on user utility
over chain loyalty and that's the shift we certainly need in crypto crypto's next evolution
to be sure to be like to be honest but um also i'm interested what kind of a role does the
universal evm play in facilitating these seamless cross-chain interactions especially with non-smart
contract chains too yeah so the universal evm is pretty much just zeta chain right um so i think
you summed it up pretty perfectly
with non-smart contract chains like Bitcoin as well.
It's just all done through our observer validators,
our observer signers.
So let's say in the example, with the DEX example,
a user wants to swap native Bitcoin to BNB.
The user deposits native Bitcoin on the BNB network.
The observer signer validates and observes
this transaction that happens.
It mints out an equivalent version, which gets swapped into BMB, and then BMB is withdrawn
from the BMB custody address.
All that complexity is just one click.
So all the intermediary stuff is happening on Zeta Chain, which is a Zeta Chain EVM.
So think of us like the airport hub, where we're connecting to all these different airport terminals
and different airport hubs and train stops, etc.
Everything gets routed through Zeta chain.
So this universal EVM or UEVM is kind of a technical centerpiece,
as I'm understanding it correctly, of the
Zeta chain's vision of truly interoperable blockchain infrastructure. And at its core,
the UEVM allows developers to write and deploy Ethereum-compatible smart contract systems at
the chain that can directly interact with assets and data on other blockchains, including those
that don't support smart contracts at all,
like Bitcoin or, I don't know, Dogecoin.
This is like monumentally because traditionally
non-turing complete blockchains like Bitcoin
have been functionally sealed
from the smart contract revolution.
And as I can see it,
ZetaChain's UVM overcomes this
by serving as a cross-chain execution layer,
obstructing away the limitations of individual chains.
And I think that listeners, you can think of it as a universal control plane
where a developer can build logic that governs Bitcoin or Ethereum or Cosmos assets
that governs Bitcoin or Ethereum or Cosmos assets all from one place.
all from one place.
And this changes this paradigm from smart contracts on a chain
to smart contracts above the chains,
which dramatically enhances both composability and developer agility too.
And specifically for Bitcoin, this means for the first time,
developers can build decentralized apps that use native BTC without needing to wrap it. So a debt could, for instance, offer lending,
staking, or trading of native Bitcoin orchestrated by a smart contract running on Zeta Chain.
And that's powerful because Bitcoin is still the most widely held and recognized digital asset
globally. But until now,
it's been mostly excluded from DeFi without custodial risk or wrapping. And for developers
too, this means lower friction, fewer moving parts and far more creative potential. For users,
for example, it's a massive UX improvement. They don't have to jump through multiple hoops or worry
about which chain they're using.
They can interact with the universal app on their BTC or ETH or stable coins.
Just work across chains, I would say.
And the EUVM, those represents both a technical and a philosophical advancement here too.
It's about unification without forcing conformity. It allows chains
to maintain their unique properties while still participating in a broader programmable
ecosystem. And that's the kind of an infrastructural evolution we need to move from fragmented
experimentation to a more cohesive and accessible web-to-feature. Alex, please correct me if
I'm wrong because I can like think about it and think about it out loud
but if I'm saying something wrong please correct me I hope that before this point everything was
good in the thoughts that I've tried to explain to you yeah no um everything is correct yeah I
don't know how else to expand on that I mean i think you summed it up pretty well
oh good oh good then then we go to the next one but listeners if you do have some questions right
now to alex don't hesitate to ask because sometimes technical discussions can be a little bit hard.
So we would like to reveal as much details as possible here.
But on another note,
I saw that data chain recently integrated Coinbase OnRamp.
How does this integration enhance user experience
and accessibility?
Yeah, so Coinbase OnRamp is pretty cool.
Yeah, so just simply put on some of the core apps
that got promoted like Amana and Beam
as well as some other ones.
Instead of having to OnRamp or get Zeta
from another provider,
what you can do now is just click on GetZeta
and it'll redirect you to Coinbase OnRamp
and you can just do a small KYC and turn your credit debit card to get zeta and it'll redirect you to coinbase on ramp and you can just do a small kyc and turn
your credit debit card to get zeta or some other assets without leaving the app
that's good that's i think there are a lot of enhancements from that integration and i can see
it as a strategic one and user-centric two move that directly addresses one of the biggest barriers in crypto, like the fiat to crypto onboarding experience.
Because historically, onboarding into blockchain applications has been convoluted.
Users must first buy crypto on an exchange, transfer it to self-custodial wallets, switch to the right network and sometimes bridge it across chains.
That's a multi-step journey full of potential friction points especially for newcomers and by integrating
coinbase on wrap i think that you guys eliminate much of that complexity now users can go from a
fight to a functional crypto within a dap built on that chain no exchange hoping no external wallet setup required these streamlines onboarding
to a single step uh with within the dap interface itself so that's a significant leap in a usability
and crucially inclusivity it invites in a broader demographic who may be curious about that three but
intimidated by its technical hurdles for example i think that's a very, very good integration.
I will share it with my fellow friends
who always wanted to do something in crypto,
but for them, it's really hard to understand
what does it mean even chain.
So I guess right now,
you're going to solve some of my friends' problems
and I can onboard them as a newcomer to crypto to Web3.
But to be honest, beyond the
initial conversation here, there's also a long-term value loop that I can see. Once a user unboards
like Coinbase into the data chain, they gain immediate access to a range of universal apps
and cross-chain functionalities too. So they're not just stuck on one chain with limited options.
They're immediately plugged into a dynamic and multi-chain world.
And that's a very different onboarding proposition
compared to the usual buy theorem and learn the hard way.
Moreover, on another note,
this partnership adds kind of a layer of legitimacy to you guys
and strategic dApps to the chain's mission.
I think that Coinbase is selective in its integrations and their participation signals
big confidence in data chain's architecture and feature.
It also opens the door to deeper integrations over time, whether that's staking interfaces,
liquidity partnerships or institutional grade custody.
But ultimately, the integration doesn't just
enhance user experience, it collapses the distance between FID and function in Web3.
It's a win for UX, for adoption and for the broader vision of making blockchain technology
invisible to the end user, which is where this space must go to truly scale. And another kind of a partnership
that I wanted also to highlight
and reveal some details for our listeners,
there was a partnership with Google Cloud as a validator.
And it's really significant.
What impact does this have on data chain scalability
and security from your point of view, Alex?
I mean, yeah, we have a very large number
of validators on
data chain who are working to secure the network and yeah,
who are working to secure the network and make sure it is
centralized as much as possible.
I think Google Cloud just really brings that trust factor and
it's a reputable partner, right?
Now we have the stance that, oh, now we have Google Cloud as a
partner and it brings a lot of credibility to everything that
we've built and a lot of validity
to what we've been trying to build
in the past couple months, right?
So starting off with the universal EVM,
the native Bitcoin side,
and some of the other recent developments
that we've had,
having Google Cloud as one of our validators
just shows to our users
that it's not just a random chain
that we're actually starting to provide some value add.
And it shows credibility and validity to our users that they can use our chain without you know without making sure without having to check that
it's some sort of smaller chain or there's some sort of issues with it um i'm pretty confident
that having google cloud is one of our top partners just brings that trust to users in crypto
that's good i love your concise answers to be honest but still allow me a little bit to
expand expand it uh on my thoughts um and maybe summarize it for listeners too um i think that
like google cloud you're saying yeah it's cool but it's not just cool it's it's really significant
that not everyone can do that.
And you should be really proud of yourself.
This inclusion of Google Cloud as a validator and that the chain is more than just a symbolic
win.
It's a critical infrastructure milestone that speaks volume about both the maturity and
the ambitions of the network.
So yeah, I mean, I'm raising both hands for this.
Validators are the backbone of any proof-of-stake blockchain.
And when an enterprise-caliber entity like Google Cloud steps into that role,
it reinforces the network's integrity, railability, and long-term availability.
From a security perspective, like Google Cloud brings industrial-grade infrastructure,
redundancy, and uptime guarantees that significantly harden the validator set against outage and attacks.
And this is especially important for ZetaChain, whose role as a universal interoperability layer debands constant availability and reliable cross-chain message execution.
and reliable cross-chain message execution.
Even a small hiccup in validation could compromise asset custody
or interrupt cross-chain smart contracts operations.
So the stakes are really high.
And Google Cloud's participation also enhances the decentralization
in a meaningful way.
I'll explain what I'm trying to say here.
While they are a major player, they're acting independently
within the validator ecosystem,
helping diversify the geographic
and operational footprint of the network.
It's like a reminder that the centralization
doesn't have to mean anti-institutional, right?
It means distributing trust across multiple entities,
including those with proven reputations and resilience.
And maybe on the scalability front having google cloud on a broad offers tangible advantages like their computer infrastructure
allows for high throughput low latency processing with which is kind of a key for data chains
omni chain functionality as i'm understanding correctly. And the network grows
to process more cross-chain transactions and support more universal apps. And this level
of infrastructure will help ensure that performance scales with demand. And I guess,
furthermore, this partnership also exemplifies the merging of traditional cloud infrastructure and decentralized
networks to something that has been theorized uh for years but is only now becoming a reality
it points to a hybrid future where web2 infrastructure and that three protocols
aren't adversaries but like collaborators so it adds also a momentum to zeta chain's thesis of being
the connective tissue for all blockchains if you're going to build the universal layer that
ties together ethereum bitcoin cosmos and more you need validator partners who can operate at
a global scale maintain security standards and
offer uptime guarantees and google cloud checks all those boxes and then some so in summary it's
kind of a foundational pillar as i can notice as a host here that strengthens not just the tech
stack but also the brand the trust model and scalability roadmap for the for the
chain as it aims to become the universal blockchain infrastructure for the decentralized internet
but another note i've also mentioned at the beginning that you have already 8.5 million
users and when we were scheduling this podcast a while months ago, it was only 5 million users.
With so large user base and numerous apps deployed, what kind of strategies have been the most effective in driving data chains like a system growth from your perspective?
I really think there's several components to this. So I think there's one where it's how do we create sticky products, meaning how do we create products where users will come back and use these apps.
I really think there's several components.
So one of those flagship products are Zeta Hub. So Zeta Hub is our one-stop platform to do anything on Zeta chain. You can send your assets from one chain to a different chain. You can also
be a part of our quest program, which allows you to earn points and get Zeta for some XP tasks as
well, which is pretty much completing an on-chain task for certain partner projects. So this is an
example of a sticky product where we have a lot of recurring users, and a lot of that is about
300,000 monthly active users coming directly from Zeta Hub.
In addition to that, we have the games, which are also more sticky products.
And then we also have our core DeFi focus, which is Beam, which is Amana, as well as some other apps that contribute to a significantly high, large number of transactions and users on Zeta Chain.
Magnificent.
I haven't, I didn't know about that,
to be honest, when I tried to research
your current tactics.
So that's a good update for me
and for our listeners too,
because like this growth
to over 8.5 million users is not just an accident
right it's the result of a multi-primish strategy that blends technical vision grassroots adoption
and thoughtful community incentives to one of the most like i think what you have guys is like one
of the most pivotal strategies has been your early embrace of real utility in interoperability, like rather than just simply promoting hype or speculative mechanics.
By building actual infrastructure that developers can use to create cross-chain apps, Zeta Chain positioned itself as a platform for serious builders, not just token speculators.
itself as a platform for serious builders not just token speculators and uh your and let's not ignore
your UX too because that the chain apps abstract away much uh of the technical friction that scares
off mainstream users you can use BTC in a DeFi app load with assets from multiple chains or
interact with protocols without switching wallets and networks
constantly. That kind of simplicity spreads by word of mouth, I would say, too. And in a space
where growth is often short-lived and airdrop-driven, Zeta Chain's ecosystem momentum feels more rooted
in substance. It's solving hard problems, supporting real builders, and cultivating a user base that understands the
long game that's rare and it's why the growth your growth appears not just rapid but resilient and i
can see that and we will support you of course and dear listeners if you still don't follow that
data chain official account please do so to keep up with all the updates that Zeta
Chain is going to reveal soon. But also, I'm interested, how do you guys support developers
in building and deploying universal apps across these multiple blockchains? Do you have any kind
of programs for that? Yeah, we have ecosystem grants for any new developers that want to build
on Zeta Chain.
We give out grants and we incubate some of these core apps very closely.
So if you're a strong team that's looking to build on Zeta Chain and you're trying to fill out a core ecosystem project
and you have a very long-term vision for it,
we have ecosystem grants as well as other programs.
Once you get to a certain stage, we can help support you further.
Only grants, maybe something else as well?
Well, again, as I said, besides grants,
if you're getting to a different stage of your project,
so for example, your core ecosystem app
and you have a lot of TVL,
you have a lot of significant growth.
I mean, we can introduce some of
our investors we can help you raise etc so we kind of help incubate some of these projects as well
got it got it got it that's good you're offer very like impressively holistic support system
for developers who want to build universal apps. And even if it starts with the grants,
you can also give meaningful connections.
We're going to the incubation also that you meant to.
And I think it's also important to say
that by combining kind of a powerful obstructions
and real asset support developer centric tooling,
active community engagement,
data chain is setting you
bar for what building cross-chain can mean it's not just like interoperable it's integrated and
that's what's enabling this new class of universal apps to emerge so if there are any developers
listen feel free to outreach to us or to alex directly uh to apply for grants and for other
support to mentorship or ecosystem and for other support too.
Mentorship or ecosystem promotion for projects that align with your universal blockchain vision.
Many devs get stuck not on the technical side, but on go-to market and visibility.
And I think that data chain actively helps solve that.
It's connecting projects with partners, exchanges, and even other developers too.
But I think that
there's only one question left with which I want to torture you today, Alex. Just looking ahead,
what are the key milestones or features we can expect from DataChain in the next 12 months?
Yeah, absolutely. We have SWE and Solana coming up, so they'll be the next chains that are going
to be integrated on Zeta Chain.
You'll also see a number of core ecosystem apps going live on mainnet as well.
One of them being a CDP stablecoin called BitSmiley, which allows the user to mint BitUSC stablecoin by depositing native Bitcoin into several vaults and even other native gas assets as well.
So it's truly a universal application.
A lot of growth on the ecosystem side, app developments more absolutely mainnet um supporting more projects
closely in the ecosystem um on the protocol side i just talked about the sui and um the sui and
telegram integration as well which will go live soon um yeah and there's a couple of other
developments as well that i don't want to hint at quite yet, but yeah.
Awesome, awesome.
Thanks.
I think that we can hear that there are going to be a lot of updates, and we're all going to watch them. The next 12 months for Zeta Chain are poised to be pivotal chapter, pivotal, moving from strong foundational building into widespread adoption and scalability and
there are going to be a lot of anticipated milestones i can see while the channel already
supports bitcoin into interaction uh the rollout of fully productations great omni chains app that
can use native btc and real defy scenarios is a game changer. And that will open the door for lending,
staking, cross-chain governance with Bitcoin
and functionality the ecosystem has long dreamed of,
but never quite realized.
And I think that there are going to be also
more significant updates,
maybe on validarset and geographic distribution too.
I don't know yet, but I'm just guessing
because this is not just about decentralization, right?
For its own sake.
It's about strengthening uptime,
reducing attack surfaces,
pivoting to both regulators and institutions
that data chain can handle
enterprise-grade responsibilities.
And the partnership with Google Cloud
was a strong signal in this direction
and more institutional-grade validators are likely to follow to be honest as i can see it maybe on the
ecosystem growth side that the chain has uh hinted at and at expanding grant programs to uh university
outreach and regional accelerator partnership who knows we'll go we're gonna follow you and
these initiatives will fuel both grassroots
development and academic research fostering long-term sustainability and i guess guys don't
be surprised if we see the chain making moves into more regulated financial spaces too because
the ability to interact with native bitcoin and ethereum uh in a verifiable transparent way positions it well for use cases in a
decentralized identity compliance tooling and even cbdc interoperability down the road so
i think that ensure that the chains next year isn't just about scaling what's already there it's about
proving that universal entropy ability isn't a theory anymore it's operational usable and increasingly essential
so the coming 12 months could very well solidify the chain's role and the connective tissue of the
multi-chain future and probably that's a wrap on today's deep dive into zeta chain a project that's
not just building another blockchain but redefining how all blockchains can work together.
From enabling smart contracts that command assets across chains to massive native BTC usable in DeFi, to launching a new breed of universal apps.
Zeta Chain is tackling some of the hardest, most foundational problems in Web3 with a clear architectural vision
and growing momentum.
So Alex, if you have some final words
for our listeners, feel free to speak up.
No, I think that's great.
Thank you so much for listening.
Feel free to use the app on Zeta Chain
to get a clearer picture
of exactly how we're doing native Bitcoin.
We have an ecosystem grant program as well
for anyone here that's a developer that wants to build something great on Zeta Chain. We're always here. program as well for anyone here that's developer that wants
to build something great on data chain. We're always here. Yeah, thank you for tuning in.
Awesome. And I would like to extend a huge thank you to you, Alex, for participating in our today's
space. I hope that we can do more spaces together about upcoming updates. And at this time, we are
at the point in crypto where the next wave of adoption won't come
from more chains but from better cohesion fewer barriers better uics and protocols that abstract
away complexity without compromising sovereignty and if zeta chains continues on its current
trajectory it may very well become the connective tissue that makes mass adoption not just possible but inevitable.
And dear guys, if this episode got you thinking, building, or dreaming a bit bigger about what's possible in Web3, consider follow Cryptic, follow official ZetaChain account, AlexSwan, mine if you wish, and leave us some comments, share it with your fellow enthusiasts.
It really helps us bring conversations like this to more people.
And I'm signing off for today.
It was Polly Speaks.
Wishing you all the best.
Awesome. Thank you.
Or evening.
Yeah.
Until next time, just stay curious, stay sovereign.
And as always, we'll be on borders.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, listeners and Alex.
Have a good rest of the day and ciao, ciao.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye. Thank you.
