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CABAL SUPER CYCLE? FUTURE OF DEFI?🚨 W3Exposed🧼🎙️🔋: @ToshiBet
Recorded: Aug. 21, 2025 Duration: 1:52:21Space Recording
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The reason it's got to go, hey, they gon' come for you and when they can't come for you, I got...
It's so crazy to love
The thing about life is it's gon' have ups and downs
There's nothing you can do about that
But on the upside, we just tryna keep it up
You win some, you learn some, it's no losses
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Tryna elevate, I just take the up or the down. If it escalate, my foot is going up or the down.
Make him levitate, lick, lift him up off the ground.
I'm a heavyweight, I've been trying to uplift his town.
You ain't say that, oh now we got purpose around.
I don't play that, the homie can't make up with no clown.
Just the upside, everything is up with me now.
Down ass bitch, I gotta actin' up with him now.
Ain't no gettin' back with me when I'm up and see down.
And I just lost a parlay off a couple rebounds.
Thought y'all was happy for me.
What's up with these frowns?
I'm big bitch.
Y'all mad y'all can't guffin' me now?
Stay hungry, never thirsty.
My cup with me now.
See me drop a bag, I'ma cuck with you now.
Movin' on up.
Jefferson's up with ease now.
Could've upped the middle finger, but I'm up to peace now.
Yeah.
Deuces like breezy and tiger. Posees ain't loyal featuring Weezy and tiger
Swing too close, yeah that gets easy for tigers, rip too hard, I don't make it easy for fighters
They think when you gettin' paper it gets easy as whiter, but I never force it, the reason is Giger
Ayy, they gon' come for you when they can't come for you
I got comfortable seeing them uncomfortable, I got local niggas trying to locate you.
She not up in Croatia.
You not get around, yeah, they rotate you.
You not white material or whole nature.
And I don't know who need to hear that.
The shoe fits with it.
Cause I'ma leave you weirdos right where you get weird at.
Check hard like I met out here.
She like that Drake album sound way better out here.
I know.
Trust me, I know. Just saying it's a different vibe when you're on the other side with the upside when you vibing in Croatia and Amsterdam and you know you're in Europe with it like it's a vibe, I get it, you know what I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it,
you know, I dare ya, I dare ya, I dare ya, I dare ya, I dare ya, I dare ya, I dare ya,
hey what that boy say, I took big steps to get here, my euro's different, ha ha. Life is all about you and not at all about you.
Not as opposed to thoughts and yet both of them are true. about
otherwise you couldn can differentiate between the two. Or what is it?
What is it? What is it?
You think you hurt me, but I promise I was letting you.
They say you're all one.
Or what have you been editing to?
I'd rather die free than have to live inside Texas.
I'd rather be a part of the living future.
I'd rather be a part of the living future. so so
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life
I'll make a good life I'll make a good life I am the man.
So I travel back in time.
I have everything I want.
It's my imagination, mine.
But mine's not enough.
It's not enough to find.
I can see it all, but never get to see.
I'm truly blind.
I can be it all, but all identity is intertwined.
The moon is only bright with the reflex of sunshine.
Yes, yes, yes,'s like a gun check. Thank you. yo my check you guys hear me your your your word amazing 6 47 p.m eastern yeah i know we're earlier we're earlier but it's because uh the special
guest is in a different country and i i hope he wakes up he said he's taking a nap and he'll be
up for this so we're starting early for that uh but yeah let's get this shit going it's uh it's
a good day it's thursday i'm not gonna lie the fucking timeline has been really draining so i've
actually um been been having to put my phone down for real, for real. No cap, no cap, no cap. Or just honestly,
just do other things without being on Twitter. But that doesn't take away from the cool conversations
that have been going on all week. Yesterday was fucking lit. Easy token. We'll definitely talk
about that later. But yeah, like, comment, repost, drop a comment at the very minimum bro at the very
motherfucking minimum that means the world to me it brings awareness to the space throws us an
algorithm i don't i don't suck dick or brown nose enough people to just be lit you feel me so that's
the best thing that you guys could do for me is like comment repost the room so we get in the
algorithm uh but we're gonna get going in just a second. Welcome to the show. Let's go.
Yesterday I did this, and I don't think you guys cared enough,
or maybe I didn't say it enough,
but I am giving away 0.5 Solana at 100 comments.
So the same person can comment 50 times, and then another 15 comments come in, and I'll pick away 0.5 Solana at 100 comments. So the same person can comment 50 times.
And then another 15 comments come in.
And I'll pick a winner.
But we have to get to 100 comments, though.
Let's go.
It's not the human race.
It's just the human race.
There's nothing left to change.
You do not run this list.
But both medicine and choices required taste. So I started taking selfies with somebody else.
A lot of you guys are taking this song way too seriously.
Mike's gonna start laughing in a second.
He knows the song. He knows the song he knows the song you know what's fucked up i've only ever heard this song from girls. Oh, my God.
The first time I heard this song, it was from a girl.
And I was like, damn, you're so fine.
Why are you playing this damn song?
God damn.
Yo, tag Tetra below.
Wake that motherfucker up, let's go!
I'm trippin', I'm trippin'm screaming out. I'm screaming, I'm screaming out.
Here I'm picking up all my eyes.
Don't know you cannot spray this black.
All you feel good is putting another shot.
Cause you know it's going down in this mess. I just took a hundred thousand on my watch. I'm pulling to go. I'm sorry guys.
I know some of you are like, what the fuck is this?
I'm sorry.
It's my fault.
It's my fault.
He's awake.
He's awake.
He's awake. No, awake! He's awake!
No, I gotta play this.
I gotta play this since he's up.
I gotta play this.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I'll admit it, I'll admit it.
Watch your motherfucking tone, boy.
Let's go!
Yeah, hurry, boy.
Yeah, hurry.
Oh, here it go.
And all motherfuckers that don't understand the concept of putting money first, boy. I think it's 6 a.m. for him.
Rise and shine, my Gs.
Yo, show this man some love.
Everybody shoot Tetra a follow if you haven't already.
Spam the comments.
We're about to start in 37 seconds.
Welcome to the show.
Come on.
I'll admit it. I'll admit it. spam the comments we bought it twitter in the next one to three Then quick reminder, guys, quick reminder.
I said this earlier on Twitter in the next one to three years.
OK, everything you know right now is never going to be the same.
Everything is going to be 100 percent different.
Yeah, we hear about the wealth transfer and all that.
This shit is real.
And if you let yourself be distracted and be lazy and not fucking execute on whatever the fuck you want to execute on you're gonna look at all this shit you're gonna be like what what the fuck happened how
how and then guess what guess what it's gonna be game over welcome welcome welcome to the show you are now tuned in to Web3Xpoles the number one show on
the internet don't argue with me argue with your parents about that one uh 6 40 6 50 p.m eastern
we started a little earlier today uh our special guest is um on a
whole different time zone so very excited that he was able to show up really appreciate that
very excited to jump into what he's working on too i was able to look at it recently this is not
paid it's not sponsored any of that shit you guys would know i would share that i have no problem
sharing that uh but i genuinely want to jump into this conversation because uh as a super just defi advocate since you know like 2017 i think i actually think this
is not spoken and not spoken about enough and i know that there's been really shitty things to
happen in defi arena just like every other sector there's something crazy that happens
um but i think our little realm here does not talk about this enough. Everybody's obsessed with trading. Everybody's obsessed with, uh, PVP, but like,
you don't realize like, Oh, I could put money in a liquidity pool or I can, you know, put my money
parked here. You're going to just, it's going to be parked in your fucking phantom wallet or
wherever you park your shit. Regardless, why not earn yield on it? Right. For example, just shit
like that. Again, this is obviously not financial advice by any means but i just uh this is one of my favorite sectors and i
think this is one of the sectors uh the professionals could correct me that really
open the doors for different things to occur in crypto and new products and stuff like that so
we're gonna get this going this segment is sponsored by toshibet if you're into gambling
if you like to fuck around and find out,
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follow the rules of your jurisdiction, all that good stuff. If you're not into gambling, I don't
think you should pick it up and be irresponsible if you don't know how to really control yourself.
But there is a lot of fun games and personal friends that gamble quite a bit um have given me a lot of good feedback so there's that you got my co-host in the house mike man's been
missing in action for a while but we forgive him appreciate you pulling up excited for you to
to be here i know you have a lot to say about defy too but uh without further ado i know it's
super early for you tetra you're the goat for pulling up on me. How's it going over there, man? Good morning.
It's like 3 a.m.
It's not even more.
I wish it was 6 a.m.
They'll be better.
Ah, okay.
It's even worse.
It's 3 a.m.
But no, I'm up.
I'm up.
I'm here.
I'm alive.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Fresh raw.
I know you probably just consumed some water.
I got a fresh brain right now.
I got a fresh brain Tetra right now.
This is great.
Hey, just don't go to the timeline and scroll. You're be fucked but just stay right here locked in with us and you're gonna be on but now let's jump right into it for those that
don't know um tetra has actually been uh building some some stuff for a while for those that may not
know you can give a brief background on yourself before getting into crypto jump into everything
that you've already done and then let's jump jump into print, if you don't mind.
Yeah, can you jump into how this is a rug?
And he just shared.
That guy's mad because I told him to stop being obsessed with the apes.
Hey, come back on stage in like 20 minutes, though.
I support that, actually.
I like the line of questioning.
We should remember.
No, he could ask that. But at least, least like don't be a fucking like come on dude
whatever it's all is there a right nigga to shut the fuck up the problem is that every space i do
nobody has any tough questions though that guy went right to the meat and bones you know
that's something that oh like i think it's... No, no, no.
You know what it is?
I just realized there's a whole group of people that have never been here before.
And I just realized the comments I was leaving a few minutes ago.
So I love it.
Thank you, guys.
Make sure you repost the space while you're here, you fucking losers.
Tetra, talk to me.
Go ahead.
Background on me.
I'll keep it short.
But I've been in space for like 10 years.
I mean, probably been involved. I've been in space for like 10 years. I mean, probably been involved.
I've been involved in like tons of different shit.
I've been involved with different sides of the industry as well.
So I kind of seen things from running an OTC business and working in like the art sector,
being an artist myself.
So working on like, you know, augmented reality stuff and building different dApps, different experiences, and even like integrating crypto into like a traditional business, like our own retail business that we have out in Toronto.
So I've been involved with another sector of our company.
I was kind of looking at what is going to be the final frontier,
like the final opportunity for something interesting to happen in DeFi.
Because I think like a lot of times in DeFi,
we start looking at,
we're just like in this ecosystem altogether,
even DeFi aside,
we start looking at how do you create this one next big experience?
What's the next big app?
What's the next big thing that brings in the millions or hundreds of millions or whatever?
I mean, like if you want to get really optimistic, the billions of people and everyone starts kind of thinking of like, what's the next big thing that does mass onboarding?
And I kind of realized that that whole message is like a lie, which was the inspiration behind working on what I'm working on today.
Because if you build an app, the next TikTok, for example, or whatever, there's almost zero
reason for you to build it with any on-chain activity.
Like if your app has a real use case, you just build it, you build users around it,
you don't need to really attach a financial layer to it.
So this whole notion that there's this next big app that's going to bring in all the people
is pretty much bullshit.
And maybe that gets proven wrong, but I genuinely don't think that's going to be the case.
I think what actually is going to bring people to this space is exactly what brought everyone
that's here so far, which is financial success of somebody else that attracted people
to come into the financial sector.
I mean, it's in the name, like it's decentralized finance.
You're here to trade things, whether it's NFTs, whether it's like, you know, tokens,
whether you're lending, borrowing, whatever you're doing, there's some financial layer
that's attached to it.
Even if you're using InfoFi, you're talking because you want to earn something financial.
So at the very base layer of it, no matter how you slice it here, some people are here
for data sovereignty, some people are here for taking ownership back or whatever it is.
But ultimately, when you boil it all down, it comes down to finance.
So when I looked at it, I was like, okay, so it's not going to be that we have to create
this big app that has some great use case and suddenly we attach crypto to it.
It's more so that we have to look at what the base layer of finance is and make it so that that layer can transact, make money and distribute it back to the users.
And when you have enough success stories from within your ecosystem, that attracts people.
in your ecosystem, that attracts people.
You know, if there was an ecosystem here
that if everybody joined,
they were actually seeing great returns from it,
then you would want to onboard your coworkers,
your family members, your friends and other people.
And then that's how you actually grow the pie.
So it doesn't grow from some like big exponential moment.
It actually grows from like linear compounded growth
from within and that's how we're gonna see
a real big shift happening in DeFi.
And obviously that hasn't been happening at all
from like the ICO bubble to what happened with NFTs
to what's happening this cycle with all the pump funds
and the trading tools and the launch pads and everything.
The space is really set up to like extract money.
And I mean, that's just what the cost of businesses, right?
You launch a business, the business operates, it generates fees from the users, and then those fees leave the ecosystem, the founders and the VCs and everybody get enriched.
And that's just what capitalism is.
And there's nothing that necessarily is wrong with that. Sector, which DeFi is a new sector, the more the money gets sucked out, the less there
is to go around and the less actually we see new experiences and new opportunities pop
So that's why this cycle we kind of saw a shift away from NFTs, DeFi, ICOs, all this
stuff.
And now really the money is like institutional bids.
So even though we're seeing cycle highs and all time highs for a lot of like the big coins, we actually don't see big on-chain volume. We don't see a lot of
new experiences popping out. We don't see tons of new projects taking off. We kind of see that most
of the money is coming in from institutions and they're setting up treasury companies. They're
buying a really big token. So like basically, even though it looks like this space is really
succeeding, it's actually falling apart.
It's like falling into the hands of massive institutions.
And pretty much it is the last cycle for things to change.
And I think, like, the way that you change that is through the very base layer.
And that's where not only did we create a evergreen DAP that, you know, basically addresses the main thing that you do in the space, which is, you know, trading of assets like the end everything app that lets you buy and sell anything that you want to do, but also addressing the actual tokenomics model.
And that's where I think like you fix the space, you fix it at the very token level. It's kind of like if you have a broken foundation, whatever you build on top of it is going to not work.
broken foundation, whatever you build on top of it is going to not work.
So we're trying to address that by bringing a brand new tokenomics model,
building a brand new distribution model.
And I think through the value of our tokenomics and our distribution,
then we can actually go ahead and bring in some like real long-term change that
then could also be copied across other ecosystems.
That's kind of the base of it.
Love that. First of all, that was
a lot.
But I took that in. I definitely took that in. Will, you
have a question already? Are you excited already,
William? What's going on?
Yeah, I mean, we talked a little bit.
I don't know what kind
of NDA information I can display
here, but
did you talk about your distribution and how you're doing that?
No, but you can ask anything.
All the information that even we spoke about,
that was one of the interesting things about how I've been releasing this.
And I said this to you a little earlier when we were speaking.
Whenever you see things come out in the space, behind closed doors, they'll tell you all the info.
They'll tell you all their plans.
They'll tell you whatever.
But then, like, in front of the public, all that stuff is very private.
They'll never say it.
Their distribution model is hidden.
The tokenomics are hidden.
Well, they'll change it.
And the whole point is that founders are trying to shift the goalpost until the very last minute.
Because why would they tell you what their distribution plan is?
You know, people love to play the game of mystery and speculation.
And it's better for the customer to not know and all this type of bullshit.
But that's because, one, their execution and planning is flawed.
They don't actually want to stand behind any tokenomics model that they create.
And two, why would they tell you?
They'll just wait for the success of their app.
If it gets really successful and they were planning on giving you 50% of a token supply they'll shift that to 40 and then 30 and then 20 and at the end of the 10% they'll give you is still worth a lot of money and they'll be like man that airdrop was a 50 million dollar airdrop so everyone should be happy with what we gave them and it's like originally the plan was to give you 50 and that's what they were shopping behind closed doors and that's what was happening so on the opposite side everything that we're doing i just displayed it right from the beginning our
tokenomics model went out during the first week of beta our distribution model went out during
the first week all the documents went out on it all the information went out on and it's pretty
much like if i meant more like the cliff or the drop that we talked about. Oh, yeah. So even on the cliff invest side, like so like our tokenomics model is very, very programmed
for very specific type of behavior.
Right now, every single token that you see in this space, name any token, it plays on
a very simple basis, which is a zero sum principle of trade.
And zero sum principles are that the way that you make money is you sell the
asset it's very simple you buy an asset you wait for it to go up a certain amount of money you sell
it you realize your gains so we're changing that entire model where sure you could sell your asset
to make money but by holding it in real time you actually earn and the whole concept is called
rather than like a zero sum game it's an an infinite game principle. And to show that that's the core belief of what we're building, even the token allocations that we have as a company, they're not based on any cliff or vest period where we'll hold it for a year and then we'll vest it over two years.
and we'll vest it over two years and then we'll,
No, it's a permanent stake.
no, it's a permanent stake.
Like the only tokens that get allocated,
there's zero team allocation, there's zero VC allocation,
there's zero private allocation.
There's no funding that goes behind it
that like we receive the tokens so that we can sell it.
And the only tokens that we do receive
that are for running the protocol,
for maintaining the systems, hiring new people,
everything like that,
they're on a permanent vesting schedule.
They basically get locked up permanently, they get staked,
because our value isn't to actually sell the token,
it's to acquire more of it so that we can acquire more of our own protocols revenue.
Because again, our protocol,
the entire thing that we're building,
100 percent of our revenue is tokenized and distributed via the token. So our shares of our
company, our revenue is fully tokenized and distributed via the tokens in real time. So if
you hold like 1% of the supply of our company, then you actually own 1% of our revenue in real
time. And you can claim that as the company generates revenue. So the part I was trying
to get to there is like a lot of people don't probably don't understand that in like normal lingo speak.
So like I would just kind of break it down a little bit for the audience.
And it's what he's stating there is that the only way that he can make money on his vesting is that if the company is generating.
Right. So if they're getting revenue. So if the company is successful, he can make money based on his staking.
If the company is unsuccessful, he's not going to get any yield based on his staking.
So knowing that, it means that he's putting a lot into the success of his company, or
at least he thinks about the success of his company over, can I dump these on people eventually?
And I think that that's really something kind of deep that a lot of people understand. And like that, that to me is something
that you could, you know, I'll just put it out there. I'm pretty bullish on the, on the thought
process. The only person I've seen come out with it. That to me is something that you could really
invest in and kind of hold and be a little more comfortable holding rather than trying to trade
it out continuously. i mean and then
you got the compounding too exactly and currently like the way that it's set up even for us to be
break even and obviously as we keep scaling because we keep scaling faster i mean not only is
our infrastructure costs going higher each month but we're hiring more guys we're building up a dev
team we're constantly expanding like we actually don't hire for anything other than development,
because I kind of am going by the thesis
of like less business development,
less connections and less marketing and less all that,
and just more actual product development.
So we are only scaling on the development side.
And if there's anybody in the space
that has really like they're good devs,
full stack engineers, backend engineers hit us up.
Like, I mean, we have a very large team, but we're vetting new talent all the time and
trying to find like super passionate, hungry guys.
Also, it's like, if you are trying to join, then know that it's like cutthroat as fuck
because the people that work for us put insane hours and everybody's very passionate.
So we only really hire the best of the best.
But just for us to break even at our current scale, we're looking at like 10 to $15 million of fees generated would mean that we just get to a break even point.
So that's the type of like dedication that it takes from our side to actually make it profitable as an entire venture.
Because the more that we drive a successful venture, the more market share that we take, the more successful our protocol becomes.
share that we take,
the more successful our protocol becomes.
Not only do we have to scale it to that
10-15 million dollar level before we're just at break even,
but that means in that process,
a majority of that fund goes back to
all of our user base and the people that are in our ecosystem.
Because interesting thing about how our model is set up is,
you don't have to actually just come purchase our token,
and then by purchasing our token,
which isn't live yet, but when the TGE happens,
you don't have to purchase the token and stake it to own a piece of the protocol.
You can just come and continue doing basic user behavior that you're doing other places.
If you're already buying tokens on another trading tool, or if you're already selling in and out of tokens, you can just come and do that exact same behavior with no difference.
Same fee.
Honestly, our fees are even better when it comes down to how we do our routing and all that kind of stuff like how we land the transaction for you but you could come and do that
exact same behavior and in real time every dollar that you spend you actually farm xp that then
converts into platform ownership so that's another aspect you don't have to actually buy into
anything you could just come and trade and you know buy whatever assets and end up basically
getting a piece of the platform did you talk about the anti-sniping that you set up yes for our tg we
also have um so we have our own virtual liquidity pools uh when the projects go live today you'll
see that a lot of times uh initially the tg turns out being a mess and a few bundlers or like you
know some snipers end up buying a large percent of a supply and a few bundlers or like you know some snipers
end up buying a large percent of a supply and kind of like the whole thing
like runs out of the hands of the founders and a lot of times honestly
like sometimes I would say most times actually their own fault like they're
the ones that are sniping it and they're the ones that are getting the
benefit from it and they just get to kind of play ignorant to like what
happens but on another side it's also because they're launching directly into Meteora or Radium or
essentially these liquidity pools that they don't control these DEXs that they don't control.
We've built our own.
We have our own virtual liquidity pool, so we control the parameters fully.
So there is no way for anybody to stop it.
We could literally say that today at 3 p.m uh this whole thing is launching
come be a part of it buy into the tge and nobody can set up bots or scripts or a way to essentially
snipe it and own a big piece of the supply the only way that you can actually purchase into what
we're building is you use our front end and just you know press the button like everybody else so
everybody shows up at the same time everybody buys it at the same time there's no way for anybody to game the system yeah i i really appreciate the fact that there's some thought process behind launching something
because i feel like this space has just gone all to shit when it comes to the conversation piece
of thinking about how to protect people that may be trying to buy into a project how to add value
and trying to create actual revenue and saying, hey, we're confident
enough in our product that we're willing to stand behind permanent staking and revenue share based
on my staking versus I can unlock and drop on you. Yeah, I think that's the biggest issue with
the current token models that exist because the reason why companies have to set up,
whether it's at the foundational level, like the actual protocols that we're using,
or at the app level, the only time that they can actually make money, and at the end of the day,
it's a business. You know, the companies that are here spend a lot of money to set up their
infrastructure, hire their teams, do everything. So they have to make money. They can't just be
doing it for no reason. But the only time that they can make money is when their tokens unlock and they dump it on the open market. Now, obviously, on the other side,
they're trying to create so much value that even though they're dumping the tokens on your head,
they're still able to generate so much value for the protocol that the value of the tokens go up
or stay stable. But that's kind of like if I drill a hole into my boat, so it's leaking water.
But as it's leaking water, I take a bucket and I start like grabbing all the water and I'm starting to pour it out. So I have water coming in, I have water pouring out.
It's a huge mess, but I'm just maintaining it by hoping that I can put more water out when it comes in.
The entire model is broken at the actual foundation.
That's why the idea was like, let's not try to create an app or some function that's so revolutionary and can bring so much change that we can run the same broken tokenomics model, but hopefully we can like, you know, catch up by being such a good app.
It was like, no, let's just fix the foundational layer. Let's fix it at the token level and make it so that we change the entire zero sum principle.
We make it so that people don't have to dump the tokens to see value.
We make it so that people don't have to dump the tokens to see value.
Even ourselves, if we want to be able to maintain our protocol,
rather than having to sell the tokens every three months and six months or whatever,
let's make it so that the more tokens that we hold,
the more value that we get.
That's when you change the entire behavior from selling to holding,
is when you actually change the entire ecosystem from the foundation.
Basically, you have something that just hasn't been tried before,
which is crazy to think that. So far into Dey like no one's even tried to go by these principles
it's almost like super backwards bro first of all it's 3 a.m for this motherfucker he's
fucking tapped in he is tapped in real quick we have the the stream up. So make sure you go to the kick link.
It's in the bottom right corner.
At 100 comments, I am giving away 0.5 to Lana.
There's 27 comments.
There's 200 people here.
Maybe you guys don't have thumbs.
Thank you so much, Tetra, for that beginning.
I know we have a hell of questions, especially for the DeFi heads in here.
Just a quick, quick, quick reminder to like, comment,
repost the space.
Definitely appreciate you.
Mike, go ahead, man.
You can do it.
Hey, good evening, fam.
Always a pleasure being here.
Thanks for having me.
Tatra, big fan of your work, bro.
Been watching for a while now.
I met you through Profit
and a couple of other things going on in the space.
And I definitely think that, you know,
this DeFi space is one of my favorite.
You know, I lost a lot of confidence in DeFi like everybody else. I think we all got PTSD from
Terra Luna, but my question was exactly that, you know, like Terra Luna was a good model, you know,
and it had the whole stable with the other coin as well. And that kind of brought a little bit
of the revenue, right? So my question for you is a two-part question. One of them is that, you know, what is your long-term income that is going to keep paying those levels to people?
And then the second question is, do you have something like a dial that controls the whole thing or is it being done manually now?
Because I feel like we should just make things simple, right?
It's like keep it simple, stupid, the K things simple, right? It's like, keep it simple, stupid, the kiss method,
right? Because the banks are giving people less than 1% for their living their money and they're
okay with just not losing money. So all you really have to do is create a place here that is easy
enough. And in one place, they can hold their money, invest it and not lose their ass. So I
applaud you for doing this. And then just let me know how you're structured to bring in revenue.
And obviously, what are you thinking about as far as user experience goes to make it so that the average person comes in?
Yeah, so when it comes to something like Terra Luna or a lot of things that have fallen apart,
I mean, Terra Luna was algorithmic stable coins.
And the moment that you're starting to – it's like conceptually algorithmicic stable coins what are they how do they work how do these protocols bring in revenue
a lot of these protocols that you start looking into them they're super convoluted even people
that are involved in them will not be able to give you the full explanation somebody could give you
a nice run around and try to tell you what it is before you know it you realize that even they
themselves have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. And that's because everything is so, it's so,
it's basically set up just to be difficult, almost to disguise the truth away from you.
That's why it's very simple the way that, you know, I've positioned everything. Anybody can
digest it fairly quick. We have what I would consider like an evergreen app. So an evergreen
app is something that works in a bear market,
works in a bull market. Sometimes it makes more money, sometimes it makes less money,
but it's always positioned to be able to generate fees. And an evergreen app is essentially a
transactional app. It's a trading app. You can buy assets on it. Right now, it's positioned to
be on Solana. Soon enough, we're launching on multiple different EVM chains. You're going to
be able to do cross-chain swaps.. We're gonna even work towards like having a marketplace
for people to trade NFT assets.
Sure, they're not like doing that much volume today,
but again, we want it to be an everything app
and let people be able to transact whatever they want.
So we build a transactional layer.
That becomes the base of it.
Then on top of that transactional layer,
we have a unique way for like our atomic programming,
like the way that we've essentially set up our structure
with these things known as microservices.
So what happens is that if another developer actually wants
to deploy without having crazy infrastructure costs,
soon enough we're going to be able to allow other people to build
on top of us like an App Store model.
Then we also have big zero to one moments,
like we're going to go after experimental stuff.
Right now we have a brand new asset class that hasn't even been tried yet, like a new
token standard that's coming out on Solana.
And that token standard is going to allow for a whole new way of speculation, people
to gamble, play a game.
Maybe that works, maybe it doesn't.
It doesn't matter because it's just one of our zero to one moments.
It's one of the things that we're going to be experimenting with.
So while we build this base evergreen layer, which is a transactional layer, and while we grow that to be in exchange for everything that you want to do on
chain, then we keep building other things on top of it. And each one of those could be their own
big moment and each one of those can be their own big revenue generator. But at least at the base
of it, we have the thing that matters the most, which is what you are going to be using, whether
it's a bull market or bear market to be able to trade, it's your wallet,
it's a place that you transact and everything else.
So in that sense, like the layer of like,
how do we bring in revenue is from that.
It's from something that can be used forever.
Now, does that mean that revenue will always stay the same?
No, there's going to be months that we're going to do really well.
There's going to be times that the market isn't going to have that much on-chain activity,
so we're not going to do so well.
So the distribution of the funds are going to change over time.
But ultimately, as a company, when we have months where we're making a lot from that
token that we've staked and the revenue that we're earning, our job is to also manage the
finances so that we save up the treasury for the months that we don't make as much so that
we continue actually being able to run the business.
It doesn't mean that every single month you go out and burn 100% of your run rate, and then you hope that next month you have able to run the business. It doesn't mean that like every single month you go out and burn a hundred
percent of your run rate.
And then you'll hope that next month you have enough to run it again.
Like at the end of the day,
that's like what business management is to make sure.
Are you saying you're going to be fiscally responsible?
I was about to say,
we're not buying Lambos with that red.
It's crazy,
right?
I think,
I think Tetra has enough Lambos.
He'll be all right.
Tetra. i think i think tetra has enough lambos he'll be all right tetra it's so nice to hear from you i think we spoke like three years ago and you were talking about this already three years ago so just like a testament of like this guy literally sticks
this conviction i did want to ask you because you did say the everything app and oh my god like i'm
just gonna say it like how'm just going to say it.
Like how does this compare to Coinbase on what base is trying to build?
And I'm sorry I have to ask this question, but you just said the everything app and so I had to.
No, I mean, I think everyone's kind of going after. I think a lot of the central exchanges are waking up and realizing that what is the main difference between central exchanges and decentralized exchanges?
They would give you good on and off ramps, better user experiences. They had better marketing. They fit into like
certain legislative bodies so they're easier to go out and essentially market to consumers and
get them on or whatever. But the reality of it is like you sign up for most of these central
exchange apps. You can't even buy new pairs. You don't know what's going on on chain. You don't
really have a lot of the same experiences. I up until like this year most of these central exchange
apps would only give you access to like 100 tokens to buy so the experience is actually
significantly worse for people who are pretty entrenched and they're looking for new things to
buy so they're realizing it too whether it's okx coinbase finance like they're all trying to go
after this d5 sector as well i think um everyone is going to be trying to build exactly this, the Everything app,
because ultimately there's like the total addressable market is something like $80 billion in fees a year.
So there's more than enough money to go into a multitude of different builders and apps and whatever.
But I think really, while everybody goes after this exact same slice of pie,
and everyone tries to make money from this total addressable market, the real moat here isn't your marketing.
It isn't like how good your tech is.
It isn't like how many connections you have.
I think the moat is like the ecosystem and how many people within it are actually making money on a daily basis from it and like how you grow that army, which is basically unbeatable.
basis from it and like how you grow that army which is basically unbeatable because currently
if you look at any of these other apps sure they can give you a ton of different experiences but
then all the transactions that you do on coinbase just make them rich make their vcs rich make the
people behind it rich if you could have those same experiences on another app that in real time every
transaction imagine you're right now doing thousands of dollars in transactions in coinbase
imagine those transactions actually resulted in you owning a piece of Coinbase's revenue
so that more transactions you did on Coinbase, the more you owned by Coinbase and the more
you actually made as they made money.
And that is just a risk that almost none of these founders are willing to take and none
of these companies are willing to take.
So because of that, while these guys focus on this whole aspect of taking a piece of this market, we're more so focused on giving the market back to our user base and then building our moat through human connection.
Because if there's a thousand users or 10,000 users that on a daily basis are claiming their revenue from our platform, they wake up every single day, they check their dashboard, they see how much revenue they earned, they tell their family and friends, they're proud to be part owners of this ownership
model that we've created, then that is something you can't replicate.
You can't just show up and say, hey, cool, we have this one little new feature, go use
it, and then people leave us.
That's exactly what you've seen this cycle.
A lot of different trading tools that do the same thing and the user base just flows.
One company holds the market share for three months,
another company holds it for another three months.
The user base just flows nonstop from one to the next.
And the reason is because everyone's trying to focus
on this moat of technology.
Us, we're trying to focus on the moat of basically building
an undeniable community that is never willing to leave
no matter what because they actually hold a piece of the protocol.
Real quick, Will, real quick, make sure the stream can hear the alpha look i i i put the sound on just
making sure just making sure thank you thank you thank you thank you queen all right
no but uh no i would just want to say like honestly like this is and i'm not at all trying to like
gas you up or anything like that but it's honestly the most honest straightforward model i've seen
like it's 100 return to liquidity it's staking and you get revenue generation through staking
and all like he's not pocketing any revenue like that's that's wild. That means that he has to fill out the pool.
So that means that people are selling.
He's continually buying through 100 percent.
A lot of companies will not split like that.
They will split some crazy numbers like 70, 30 or like, you know, 60, 40 or 60, 40.
That's too fair.
More like 70, 30 or 80, 20.
And you'll see like 20 percent is going back to liquidity pool but they'll
start off with the conversation kind of like what you were saying in the beginning with oh we're
going to do 40 60 and then they'll just start increasing that number incrementally as they
start to launch and then it'll come closer to a 70 30 or 80 20 model by the time they launch
and then everybody's already bought the pre-seed and everything else and then people are like well
you just change everything so everybody's's gonna dump anyways and it like that
that's how a lot of this ends up going and the fact that you're doing it through a click system
through a front end that other people can't can't come into snipe is even more crazy because it
means that everybody gets like basically an equal opportunity right as bullish as you are on the
platform you can come in and buy just like our bale skin and i think like not a lot of people think about that that whole aspect like i've seen
you launch other shit bro like i i think you you do some good work thank you and i think one of the
things is that like currently when companies go out with any of these type of models i mean raising
from vcs and stuff isn't bad it's actually better to raise post-launch if you raise pre-launch you
essentially have a bunch of mercenaries that are looking to dump their tokens.
And you have these people that get in that are not actually entrenched in your community.
They don't have the best incentive to hold long term.
I mean, these are guys that are investing in tons of different things.
And VCs are just like everybody else who are here. They're gambling just on a different scale.
They're putting money into a bunch of different things.
And out of all the things they put in, 10% of them hit, maybe even less, 5% of them hit.
And based on that, they recoup their losses and plus some.
The difference is that even the VCs that we've been talking to,
people that have heard about what we've been building
for the past six months or so,
we've told them all the same thing.
It's like, there is no pre-seed, there is no seed,
there is no pre-round, there is no investment,
there's nothing.
You want to bid it, bid it on the open market.
We're going to go out at a fair value.
That way you can actually bid into something that
not only makes the liquidity pools healthier,
makes the tokenomics healthier,
makes the distribution healthier,
and it sticks to a true ethos,
which is our entire distribution model is
built on the proof of transact model that I designed.
The idea is that when a user does a transaction,
that's who we want to reward.
Because right now, everything is so immune to attacks,
like there are no cyber-resistant systems.
Whether you're looking at even,
I would say the most cyber-resistant system
that we've had so far is proof of work.
So you set up mining devices and through
the compute that you add to a network,
you essentially get that value back. But even those are not really fair and distributed
because while you can afford one computer to mine Bitcoin, what is that really going
to do compared to the guy who can afford a million dollar rig and basically setting up
their own pool and being able to essentially have significantly more compute over you even
new proof of work protocols that came out in the past year,
people will spin up cloud instances and suddenly have
a thousand different GPUs or CPUs around the world mining the token,
and you just don't have any chance to be able to compete with that.
What do you have one PC at home you're going to turn it on,
and a fire computer mining the shit in the process?
It just doesn't work.
But in this system,
let's just say there is a whale that gets involved,
a person that wants to spend $100 million farming the protocol. Well, if they spend $100 million
versus you spending $100, they've brought the value of a million X more, of more proof of
transact to the protocol. And it doesn't actually cause a system where there's unequal distribution
because the more that they farm the protocol the more that they put transactions through the more fees they
contribute that actually come back to you it's the first system that's like not a
pyramid scheme it's actually a dual sided pyramid value goes from bottom to
the top and top to the bottom so no one kind of looks at it as like oh fuck like
these whales are gonna farm the system and I'm gonna end up owning a smaller
piece well it doesn't matter even if you own a much, much, much smaller piece of the protocol, because some guys are putting
hundreds of millions of dollars through, well, guess what? That means the protocol is worth
that much more. The smaller piece you own, the more it's actually worth. So it creates the perfect
balance now where both sides of a pie are feeding into the infinite feedback loop. And it creates like an ecosystem where all participants are happy for the other ones to be involved.
Right now, I think in most ecosystems, you see the top of a leaderboard and you're like, yo, fuck that guy.
Like, you know, he farmed it and he put so much money.
He's going to win the big airdrop.
I'm going to get nothing.
Like most ecosystems, you look at it and you're upset for the really big players.
Here, the biggest player is the guy that's put in the most amount of money
that's going to go directly towards you.
So you'd love to see those guys join.
It's a game for the small fish and the whales all to basically prosper
from the same pie that's being grown.
Real quick, Tetra, can you pin up anything that's relevant to the top
so anybody can check out?
Once again, this is not sponsored or anything like that.
First of all, we all know who Tetra is. is i mean we've been here for a few years but yeah i was super intrigued and wanted to talk about it so i invited him up will go ahead what
are you gonna say no i was saying plus you got the compound too so even if you're small you can
build to a large position if you just keep compounding it just depends on how bullish
you end up on the protocol overall exactly i'm to pin up the post with our tokenomics model.
Tetra, quick question.
I came a little late.
And is it up and running?
Can we go register?
Or has it launched yet?
Yeah.
We have a public beta that's live right now.
A lot of times when these betas go out, they kind of cap it off to, I don't know, like 50 people, 100 people, so on and so forth, because their systems are not necessarily set up for scalability.
But this is also like another testament to how much time and energy that we've put into this.
It's not like some idea overnight that we turn into a startup.
Our system, the day that it went live, which is just two weeks ago now, as a beta, has been fully public.
Anybody can join.
There's no private links.
Nobody has to invite you.
There's no codes.
You just go, and our infrastructure is already set up to handle
tens of thousands of users without downtime.
So you can go basically join it right now.
Yo, bro, I see you made – that was you on Instagram
that made that Print World order card?
I shared that like a few days ago, and I'm looking at your page right now.
I'm like, dang, I just shared that on my Instagram.
Dope.
I love that.
Yeah, man.
Can we please make that happen?
The cards?
We got a few concepts like that we're putting out.
I think it's like from an artistic side of what we do, we deliver a lot of futuristic concepts.
I think if you were involved with any of our past projects, you know as well that before
the age of AI videos and a lot of ideas that people put out now, we've been kind of creating
crazy concepts for different artists, like for music videos, for big brands.
I mean, I've worked with like Tiffany, Bugatti, I don't know, fucking Hermes, like just
like endless list of companies that we design like crazy futuristic stuff for Jacob and Co. It's like
just tons of different things. And yeah, we're going to continue to do that. It's actually funny
when we put that out, we had Revolut Bank hit us up and see if we can reskin it for them. And then
we're like, we're kind of out of the commission game. We're not really reskinning stuff anymore. We're just basically designing things for ourselves these days.
Tetra, speaking of supercars and just nice cars,
what do you think of the Acura NSX, preferably 2022?
Bro, shut up, Will.
I want to know what he thinks.
I got to look it up up i don't even know
what the acura nsx looks like oh shit all right i'll send it to you i'll send it to you it's
actually in my that's my next car man i'm obsessed and i just wanted some feedback on it anyway
honestly i'm out of the car thing it's like you know you go through eras of your life
and i used to love i think it's like when i sold my first company it was so alluring
like to be able to buy like really cool looking cars and all this kind of stuff and then you just get jaded over time now
i'm in the phase of my life where i'm downsizing everything i'm selling as many things as possible
i'm trying to like get rid of as many earthly attachments i just want to build like cool
i think the most rewarding i've seen your garage stop no. I like this. You got to go for this. We all got to go for this.
I appreciate that feedback, actually.
And that's exactly why I'm still driving to 2003 right now.
Currently, every day I get humbled.
My AC is broken.
I get humbled every day on purpose because I'm like, yo, I'm going to go to this, to this.
Get another.
No, no.
Getting what I want.
But I totally get what you just said, Tetra, and I
respect that. Trav, you had a question for him? Go ahead. Yeah. So Tetra, man, what's the end goal,
man? Like you said, you've been through a lot of things in your life. You're downsizing now. What's
the end goal of the app? What are you trying to really bring to the space? Because trying to put
everything in one place is always a huge challenge, right? So what are you looking, five, 10 years
down the road? You're really committed to putting this as your main thing
because you like you said you do a lot of work around the places yeah yeah I
think that with what we're building I mean our distribution plan right now is
set up at the base layer to be between four and six years just for distribution
and because of the funnel where we essentially send tokens out VRRXP and then gain it back
through our buyback engine,
it's set to like regain a year every six months.
So like our current tokenomics are set up
to be able to distribute long-term.
Like even though it's set up initially for four to six years,
the distribution's like been planned to go like 10 years plus.
And yeah, the goal is like build something
that competes with not only the other DEXs and trading tools, but ultimately I think we can
deliver a better experience than central exchanges. Like this type of shit doesn't happen overnight.
I also don't want to sell people like a dream of like, oh yeah, we're going to come out with
something. And within, you know, three weeks or a month, we're suddenly better than like Coinbase
or something. Cause that's just ridiculous. These companies have been around for a long time. They have massive engineering
teams. They have massive budgets. But at the end of the day, we are a startup that moves fast. We
have guys that are really hungry. We have people that are really passionate about what they're
building. And we have a really big vision of not only being able to build that transactional layer that lets you go across any chain and basically buy and sell whatever asset that you want, but somewhere that's actually fun as well.
I mean, the whole aspect of print world is kind of like, you know, thinking of like Disney World or thinking of like, you know, this big theme park, because we kind of look at like DeFi as a massive theme park.
There's this place where you're buying and selling all these ridiculous assets.
But at the same time,
there's all these crazy experiments that happen.
There's all these new games that come out,
these mini games, each one of these new token standards,
each one of these new asset classes,
they're all their own little mini games and experiences.
And we're gonna continue building on that side too.
I don't want this to just become
a boring transactional layer.
That's the base of our business,
but we're building a ton on top of it to keep it interesting
and fun and essentially constantly attract
a new cohort of users and people
that want to experience something new.
So I think, I don't know if you've already mentioned
that there's any correlation.
Is there any correlation to this
and what you've already been up to, for example, like with like OD Labs and like what you guys did on chain and stuff a few years ago?
Yeah, there's definitely some correlation.
I mean, I've not spoken about a lot of it publicly, like our core community knows where a lot of the value is going to flow and how our past assets are going to play into the new
ecosystem. I think the one thing that we've kept mysterious while we've shown the entire distribution
model, the tokenomics model, everything else, is we haven't really spoken about publicly any of the
actual direct correlations to our past ecosystem. And that's because I think a lot of the people
that are in our ecosystem right now are like the
core believers the people that never have asked for anything they were perfectly happy with what
we created which was a you know really dope project based on art technology augmented reality
everything like that and like we built a really core genuine community and you know I look at
this space and honestly it's like a lot of times the communities make the biggest mistakes because
they try to hold on to the users that are just there complaining, waiting for something to be given to them.
And then you just end up with this massive community of people who are nagging and asking for things.
And then before you know it, you're looking to set up a DAO to get away from your responsibilities.
And then you want to like pass on the governance to somebody else.
And it's like none of that shit.
Like I rather like run this stuff, run my ecosystem like a dictatorship.
Because like you actually need to have a central vision.
You need to have someone that's willing to fucking lead.
You can't pass on your responsibilities to your community
and then hope that, like, you know, through a lot of friendly,
kind gestures and nods and whatever, people are going to be happy.
You give people $1,000, they'll ask for the next $1,000.
You give them $5,000, they'll ask for the next $10,000.
No matter what you do, it's never going to be enough. So the best thing that you do is for your
core community, you, you know, target which are the people that are truly devoted, that they believe
in the vision, that they fuck with you. You share knowledge with them. You bring them on the inside.
All the other ones that are complaining on the outside, you let them complain and hopefully they
floor their assets soon enough. So it rotates into the hands of the worthy and then eventually you build out an
ecosystem that's truly resilient and it
becomes a real movement not just a bunch of people
that are like waiting around for handouts and shit
yeah if you have anything
related to your last project don't tell people
so I can buy more
before they get a chance to
shut up William there's enough to go around
it's not our fault you bought D-Gods
I still have all of
mine I still have I still hold don't say the name don't say the name I won't say the name but I still
have all of mine they're sitting there looking pretty I don't I don't want people going and
looking I still have all mine too hey founders launch or something new run the floor up Levi
what's up yeah so I'm here to be the problem
first of all what the fuck is up motherfuckers i'm feeling good i got fucking two beats of pizza
in front of me god damn it's good i'm not gonna lie to you um sorry i'm kind of on that kanye
shit too i feel a little mental uh first of all i have two of those fucking forbidden assets that I can't talk about on this stage, apparently.
Drop the fucking alpha.
What the fuck is happening with that shit?
I thought when you said you were on your Kanye era that you were going to tell us you launched a coin.
No, we're going to get into that in just a second.
Because, yeah, you guys are a little bent out of shape.
I'm not going to lie.
Kanye killed Solana, but Tetra's going to bring value back to my NFTs. But like how?
But like how?
Look, I do want to say one thing, though, Tetra.
If anything, if anything, please make it where you can just Solana to ETH and ETH and Solana and BNB.
And I can just like if I want to go swap for a solana
token it automatically just switches it on the back end and then turns it on the front like i
just i'm so tired that's exactly what we're building right now so that should be live honestly
like we're right now in the quality assurance phase so we're running qa and just making sure
everything works smoothly uh we're going to be rolling out like a few EVM chains at a time, but you can essentially go from Solana to base to
BNB to I don't know,
Hype, Abstract, whatever,
like all the new places that like there's going to be,
but you know, AVAX, whatever.
And you don't have to bridge,
you don't have to move your assets,
you don't have to like move into,
I know there's some apps that do this,
but you have to move your funds into like USDC first.
None of that, like you take random meme coin that just launched on pump,
you take random meme coin that's on AVAX,
and you just swap from one to the next in one click.
Everything else happens behind the scene.
You don't have to think about what you're doing.
You don't have to integrate new wallets.
You don't have to spin up and download new extensions.
Everything happens internally on our system.
The moment that we introduced the chain,
we already have a wallet assigned to your username anyway.
So all you do is just click,
like a singular click because honestly,
I am a big proponent of reducing clicks because every one more,
every click that you essentially introduced to a user,
you're losing 20 to 30 percent of the user base.
So if you add two clicks,
you're losing half the user base.
I just woke up. I posted my season to assist. 30% of the user base. So if you add two clicks, you're losing half the user base. And essentially that click 50 kills the program.
I posted my season's assist.
I got you.
Don't worry, Mika.
I got you.
Can I ask a question real quick?
I just wanted to ask.
I know everybody's been attacking, but are you good, Mika?
I know you've been getting attacked past couple days.
I think she was unmuted by accident, so I don't know if she wants to talk.
If she wants to talk, she can talk.
She doesn't have to talk.
Yeah, yeah.
That was a genuine question.
I'm not at all coming at you like these other people are.
Yeah, she wants to chime in.
She can.
So are you going to close this off or anything, Tetra? Are you going to like leave this open to the public? What's the way you're going to like, I don't know if this is a silly question, but what's the way you're going to like ensure that this continues to be a smooth streamlined process for the users and obviously the power users?
Well, right now we're in this beta phase, but it's a public beta.
There is no closing.
The app is not going to close from this day forward ever.
So it's just going to continue.
There is no like phase that we end and then we enter another one.
The only thing is that when our beta comes to a close,
which should happen within the next couple months,
we are then going towards a launch of a larger suite of products that we have.
Honestly, the beta shift really happens when a few things happen.
One, it's when we build a large enough treasury that allows us to build
a really healthy LP for our TGE.
Two is when we have a bunch of our features out and we look at
the platform as a truly competitive platform with
all the existing ones that are out there.
Because one of the things is that you go to a platform and you look look at the features and you're like oh this one has a wallet tracker
that does this and this one has this that does that and you don't understand those are all very
easy features to build the main hard part to build is the actual infrastructure itself to make sure
that you have something that's resilient that connects to all the dexes that routes the correct
contracts and lands all virtual transactions properly like that is the layer that is the most convoluted.
But then to build all the features on top of it, those are much easier and faster to ship.
So right now we're in the phase of having a stable product.
So a portion of our team works on observability and scalability and stability.
We call it all the abilities.
Like it's all the boring work.
Essentially we have like all of these guys that are constantly focused on making the core stronger.
And then we have another side of our team that is basically working on bringing all the features that you see on the competing platforms.
And then we have another portion of our team that is only focused on zero to one moments, building new asset classes, building things that don't exist yet, building new speculative vehicles, and just things that are the new fun games
that people are going to be able to try so that we can push those new moments
that can create their own picks and shovels and build essentially
their own ecosystems around them.
So we have these three different tenants of how our development work goes,
and that is pretty much where we would see our beta coming to an end and entering
into a real TGE and essentially having our full suite of products live so it's going to happen
fairly quick I think one of the most annoying things as well is when you see something be in
beta for way too long or you know the whole thing gets dragged on for a really long period of time
but also you don't want to see a product that's flawed go out to market. I think these days, especially with
companies trying to use tokens as a marketing stunt,
they sometimes go out too early,
and then that reflects in the value of the token after as
well because everything isn't set up in place.
While it's really fun for a couple of weeks,
then the business doesn't survive.
Honestly, the main goal here is
every single person that today is using the platform,
technically even though they haven't received
their tokens yet, they already own a piece of the protocol
through the XP model that we have.
So we're already almost endowed to like make sure
that as the people that are investing,
as the people that are showing up
and putting in their efforts and using our proof
of transact model that we work in their best interest.
And by going, you know, on that ethos of like working for the best interest of all the people involved,
we want to make sure that like every step that we take is actually one.
Sorry, my alarm went off.
But so essentially, that's where we look at the next phase.
Today, we continue building up until this beta comes to a
close. When it does, our TGE happens. And then I think that's when the real better side of a ride
starts, where we start seeing people on a daily basis earn protocol fees and wake up and claim
their soul and BMB and all this other stuff. And we'll kind of usher in a new age, which I see as
the final frontier of what can happen in DeFi, where kind of usher in a new age, which I see is the final frontier
of what can happen in DeFi,
where all of us who came here
on some promises of ownership,
we wanted to own IP,
we wanted to own protocols,
we wanted to own whatever.
But we kind of found out
that we're exit liquidity
for like every single ecosystem that came.
Now we actually have something
that we all get to be part owners of.
And it's funny,
I tell even some of the VCs
that want to invest in it,
like, no, there's no private round or even some of the big traders that i know
that have a lot of money and they're like yo like how do i put in five million when this thing goes
live and it's like hey you put in five million and you own a big piece of the company i technically
work for you at that point like it's not even like it's like because you own a bigger piece
of the protocol there's nothing like it's and it's decentralized it's decentralized ownership
yeah we don't have a dow we don't have any of that But I think it's decentralization at the most important layer, which is the financial layer
Like everyone gets to own a piece of the protocol
So you can literally own a piece of this and you know, we're at that point just set up to be
Building something that you see a lot of benefit from because that you know
You contribute in your own financial way and we contribute in our own financial way so it creates perfect loop where builders investors
traders everyone are in alignment and that's really the goal like how do we
essentially build an ecosystem where all players are in alignment with each
other and we really build that army that's why you see a lot of the
messaging it's all like very army movements join the movement that type of stuff because it is
really a movement it's not necessarily a company or corporation it's a movement that can actually
bring some real shift to d5 i see some people in the request this is always bugging out i'm trying
to bring you up thank you tetra that was uh that was fire bro you definitely could chill if you
want obviously any other insider alpha we should be looking forward to, let us know. Are you going to secretly launch a coin? Do we need
to focus on something specifically? Do we need to turn on notifications? Let me know.
Yeah, we definitely have notifications on, both for my page and for print. We're not
going to be doing any surprise TGs or things like that, but there will be more.
Is he rugged out for me, for just me or?
That fucking alarm, man.
Oh, it's the alarm.
Trying to get him up.
Get out, Tetra.
Wake up.
Yeah, we'll just wait till he comes back.
Levi, what were you going to say, bud?
Bud, first of all.
First of all.
Second of all, I have to—
I think I need to tone my shit down a little bit
because I might have intimidated him a little bit with my question.
I need him to fucking answer it.
So I'm just going to be, you know, all nice and calm and shit
until I fucking bug out again.
So I'll just wait for him to come back.
The crowd likes that.
The crowd is very much so enjoying that.
I think he's back.
I think he's back.
What's up?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
Honestly, the app just fully quit on its own.
That wasn't even like a phone call.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, this app only cost like $15 billion.
What was it, $50 billion or was it 50 billion?
I don't even know.
Like, you know, and I'll say this is also a testament to people being because, you know,
I think sometimes you don't realize it from a perspective of maybe using something versus
being a person that like is building something.
When you're building something, I mean, I'm such I have so much scrutiny when one thing
doesn't the smallest thing doesn't work in our system.
I fucking am like going endless and working with my team at four in the morning.
People are trying to sleep and I'm like, no, we have to fix it.
And then it's like, you know, when you look at the base of every app, Instagram, Twitter,
whatever, these multiple billion dollar companies, things break.
It's just to what technology is.
Technology doesn't work a hundred percent of the time.
Uh, everything has downtime and like, you know, it becomes that much harder. So, and I got people like messaging me at like 4am,
like, hey, this one transaction that I go through, it's like, buddy, it's a blockchain. Not every
transaction goes through sometimes. Sometimes it fails, just press the button again, please.
But in regards to like actually following the pages, waiting for notifications,
there's no surprise TGE, there's no surprise token moments, there's nothing,
but there are fun experiences that we're gonna run,
similar to like how if you're playing a game,
you get double XP weekend and things like that.
So we are gonna run those type of experiences
to essentially give a bigger edge to the people
that are our early believers
and the people that are showing up now,
and we're gonna be running those pretty soon.
So yeah, have your notifications on. There might be a time that we just run it for an hour or two or
maybe like, you know, six hours or 12 hours, but there's going to be opportunities where you can
get exponentially more value for every dollar that you spend. So you spend a dollar, you get two XP.
And also taking to note that as our protocol goes out the same way how like Bitcoin is having cycles
and the value that you get on that mining reward reduces over time. We have that whole system with our XP
as well, where the XP that you farm today for every dollar that you spend on the platform
buying and selling whatever asset trading in and out of any coin, you're actually getting
the value of three XP if this was a season one or a season two. So it's almost like three
times the value. So even if we assign a double XP six hour slot or whatever, you're technically getting six times the XP. You're getting a
significantly larger portion of that value because the goal is like the people that are early on,
we want to reward them as much as possible and essentially make sure that the people that like
start out on the platform remain the core functioning community that continues to grow on
here. So yeah, just follow the pages and you know, stay tapped in. We that continues to grow on here. So yeah,
just follow the pages and, you know, stay tapped in. We're going to be dropping tons of cool shit,
like on a constant basis. That's fucking good. Thank you, my guy. Thank you so much. Levi,
ask your question and we're going to jump into Will's segment so we can get into these sexy
ass charts and talk about Yeezy. Hi Tetra, sir. Maybe my first question was a little aggressive,
but I still need to know
what the fuck you're doing
with my bags.
I want to hear it, please.
No comment, but you can just hold on to them.
God fucking damn it.
Yeah, but you can hold on to them.
I mean, like, you won't be upset
for holding on to them.
I think as our EVM side of our ecosystem
grows, there will be
a lot of opportunities that you
don't want to miss out on.
Okay.
I even tried the nice way.
Will or Trap, if you see, could you let up
DogeMouse? I don't know why my shit's bugging.
And Ralph. On request,
can you let up DogeMouse
and Ralph?
I just did.
Thanks.
I don't know why my shit's broken.
Oh, my God.
My coals are working.
Fuck yeah, dude.
Earn your motherfucking keeper on here.
All right, William.
Jump into these.
I'm just kidding.
Jump into these tarts real quick, too.
The pin post is the Exposed Nation community.
Jump in there.
A lot of cool people in there.
Also, just keeps everything pretty organized.
I'm actually bullish on this feature on Twitter.
Everything sucks on Twitter, but not this feature.
I like this feature a lot.
I'm going to remove my thing.
There you go.
Jump into it, Will.
Let's get it.
What's up?
What's the chart saying?
Oh, man. Do people really want to know?
That's the question.
Is Solana going to 1,000?
I mean, Hades.
Sure.
Will, we all want to know.
I got cooked last night because I never learned my lesson.
On which part? All the easy cooking? I'm know. I got cooked last night because I never learned my lesson. On which part?
All the easy?
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I actually did get cooked on that one.
But yeah, we don't have to talk about that.
We don't have to talk about that.
I learned my lessons and I still did it anyway.
Did you go to the gym on the 25K bag?
I got cooked too.
Yeah, about halfway through my workout, I cut the position.
You didn't sell.
No, look, I did listen to Will's advice and I did take my fees.
I did listen to that.
This time is different.
We got a credit card and a merchant service.
How much did you make on fees?
Did you cook on fees?
I did. I doubled what I put in.
Hold on. Stay focused right now.
Stay fucking focused.
Yeah, they almost made me feel embarrassed to come up here.
Jump into the macro and then we'll get into you guys
hardly trading the Yeezy coin.
Go ahead.
All I'm going to say is I went from $40K to $20K on that trade.
It was not fun.
But, yeah.
So, markets. Yeah, interesting. 20k to 20k on that trade it was not fun um but uh yeah so markets yeah interesting um
currently 112 can hit 111 i mean not really much going on with bitcoin just lolling up here
really i'd like it to kind of do something you know poke it with a stick or something see if
it'll do something it's just not interested in moving at the moment uh vol is kind of right now in the space so it's really low volume the easy token i think drained the entire space
a bit i honestly think that was part of the bitcoin pulled out a little bit there's probably
people selling to get into that so they can get wrecked um and same thing with like a lot of
things across the board one thing that you know basically though i want to point this out because i think it's important to understand with the yeezy token i believe it pushed solana
up to 190. and where's solana at right now right back where it started at 180. so where do you think
where do you think that ten dollar difference just went to well it didn't stay in solana i'll tell
you that it went to somebody's bank account didn't stay in salon. I'll tell you that.
It went to somebody's bank account likely.
So that was definitely an extractionary event.
Yeah, it didn't stay in the space.
And this is the problem right now is like all these extraction fucking distractions,
right?
Extraction distractions continue to keep on just draining the entire space of the liquidity that exists.
And right now it's just a bucket of liquidity going from one hand to the next to the next.
And that's all it's been.
Ethereum, Solana.
Solana is below resistance basically, right?
If we just want to get it from a technical standpoint.
Ethereum is above support.
So that's a good thing, right?
Above 4,100.
Solana is above the trend support.
So I'll give it that, which is all the way down
if they really want to take it there at 147, 150.
And then Bitcoin can play, I would say,
ideally no lower than like 109, right?
111 has kind of been that topping scenario,
but like you don't want to go lower than 109.
You go lower than 109, you're probably going to SFP up here, here which is swing feel pattern and you're going to go back down to trend at minimum and maybe
deeper if you know if it can break that um so you know if you go down to trend below 109 you're
hitting like 97 because that's what i would target as your as your low end range that's your trend
range um outside of that i'm still looking for the market to swing high i think we got a month or two uh the the only other issue i'm seeing right now with the economy
overall is uh pal right pal is the obstacle for the economy i know a lot of people gonna say oh
just doesn't do what he's doing he's literally destroying the economy right now um i don't know
people realize it but the longer you hold rates are for
rich that's what rates are for so it's he he's destroyed the economy in a lot of ways he's
increased the national debt exponentially by holding rates where they're at and inflation is
not an issue you can't sit there and tell me oh inflation inflation there's you're at your target
you're at target pricing for inflation like it's not even a discussion anymore with Val.
He just needs to cut.
Bro, he cut when inflation was 9% in 2024.
Yeah, it's absolutely ass-backwards,
the stuff that he's making up so he doesn't have to cut.
We're paying so much, and I say we,
but the reality is the government's paying a shit ton right now
to be able to sustain the debt
because they can't refinance because interest rates are too high.
So they're paying a lot right now to be able to afford their overall debt that they've taken out.
Now, granted, it is a problem of the government.
The government did cause the issue by borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and never paying back.
borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and never never paying back but what he's doing is
he's speed running the debt right by keeping rates where they're at it doesn't make any sense to keep
them where they're i bring that up because it's important to understand so you know where the
economy stands so you kind of know where you're at in this we'll say cycle or whatever right um this
could cause some kind of collapse at some point if he if he just refuses to do what he needs
to do and that's really kind of start cutting users and i think he needs to cut them pretty fast
i'm not gonna lie i i don't think you can do 0.25 you know lollygag 0.25 like rates are just too high
for too long and it's obvious i'm gonna rant a little bit i didn't stop but uh it's kind of
absurd it's really absurd.
To be this low in inflation and still say we're going to keep...
Do you think prices are high because they want to be high when inflation is low?
No, they're high because interest rates are still high.
That's why they're high.
It's no longer an inflation issue.
It's now an interest rate issue and he just doesn't want to admit it.
Again, borrowing,
right? Everybody borrows. The cost of capital has gone up exponentially and that's the issue.
So currently still looking for a blow off top. We haven't gotten anything yet as far as blow off top.
No real euphoric state. Just continue to extract, extract, extract. That's all the space has been.
And until we get a blow off top, I just really can't say, hey, this thing's going to stop
crawling up like it has been.
It's just going to keep crawling up until we get a blow off top.
That's where the cycle is.
Implosion imminent?
No, I don't think so.
I think implosion is going to happen once you get euphoria, and we haven't gotten euphoria
yet.
It's just, you know, people trying to rob you before euphoria comes.
That's basically all that's been happening. Real quick, real quick, real quick. Welcome. If you guys are just tuning
in for the first time, we go live every single day, except Fridays, 7 p.m. Eastern right here
on X and really fucking banger show so far. Great conversation all around.
In about 35 minutes, I'm going to be hosting another segment on the BZ profile.
It's going to be really, really good.
If you're interested in collecting, if you sell anything online, especially collectibles or cards, I'm going to have a conversation with this really dope kid.
I think he's like 21 years old, does over $500,000 a month in
revenue and whatnot.
So definitely pull up to that.
It's going to happen in like 35, 40 minutes.
I pinned up the space.
Let's get to these hands.
Doge Mouse, bro, you was in that grease trap forever.
I don't know what's going on with Twitter, brother.
My bad.
What's going on?
Man, fuck Twitter, girl.
You already know that shit's trash.
They wasted all that fucking money on garbage.
Besides that, though, Tetra, real question though, like just for
me when I buy dumbass coins, can we get like a
burn all function like when your coins
are dead where I can select all like
20 that I fucking buy
and they immediately rug so I don't have to like
go through each individual
one and close them out because
bro, it sucks. Like I'm not gonna lie.
But that would be dope feature to just
add right into that platform
and i can just close all those accounts at once and be like go fuck yourselves so
that's my question yeah that's a that's a pretty good function i mean we had something else that's
not a um sell all uh but it was a incendiator model where you can essentially take the dust
that you hold because a lot of times you can sell tokens and you're still holding on to a certain amount of dust on them.
So the idea was to take all the dust and just rotate it back into our own token so you can stake that and essentially be able to earn a piece of the platform and get rid of all the bulk in your wallet.
But I think it would be a cool function to even add just to the sell function.
think it would be a cool function to even add just the cell function so that's something we
So that's something we could definitely look into.
could definitely look into okay i love that idea of dust and converting it into i was about to say
you guys have absolutely no conviction some of those spin the block and it happened to me with
the boat kid this last week hey it popped off a little bit i hope you sold i can't lie like when we had um our initial version of our
routing contract we had some issues with uh landing some of the sale transactions and i was ending up
with sometimes like 100k or 200k tokens and that's not dust that's like a lot of tokens but when
you're looking at like a 10k market cap that's technically does because it's worth nothing
and then my wallet was just filled with these and then like a month later i look back and one of them was sitting at like 20 soul and i was like okay that that
that kind of made up for all the dust
let it rip levi yo will uh you say markets look like shit how the fuck does suey look though
talk to me in those fucking red and green candles
uh eth above support suey or suey oh you said suey suey suey
no i'm about to go i only hold s coins no fucking eth
you you must enjoy pain you must enjoy
like suey suey's a good coin though so i'll give you that but uh if you've been holding uh solana
stop getting on my bag tell me about suey nearly two years of no price action except playing in a
range i feel i feel you're paying but the entry's so good though you know what i mean like average
entry under 20 bucks is crazy hey i mean people thought they got a good entry on Disney like 20 years ago.
They're still in the same range.
Hey, man.
Solana to $1,000 for sure.
Thank God I got someone else on my side.
Fuck yeah.
Can we talk about when you guys come up with these numbers?
come up with these numbers because
Because it's based on, like, probabilities.
it's based on like probability.
So if it goes from 1 to 10,
1 to 100
cannot happen without 1 to
20, 1 to 30, 1 to 40.
Hold on, hold on. We got
a new member on stage. What's up, y'all?
I want to hear what you think about
Solana. What's your take on
Solana? He's a .eth. What the fuck?
Man, I just think, you he yo i'm a i'm an evm developer so you know you know but you know i have all my my
on solana so basically this is my take you know solana handles more more volume d5 than
it can it competes with ethereum right it competes with it's like number two right now number one
they switch but basically smart chain hit 800 bucks and it's like number two right now. Number one, they switch. But basically, Smart Chain hit $800, and it's like number five in DeFi volume.
Solana might get something in October with the ETF, you know what I'm saying?
And, you know, it handles a lot of volume, a lot of shit going on.
So if BNB Smart Chain hits $800, bro, Solana definitely hit $1,000.
line, I definitely hit $1,000.
That's what I think.
That's what I think. Let me ask you
Let me ask you a question.
a question. If you've been the
highest volume chain on
chain for the past
three, four years, and you haven't
moved in price action for two years,
what does that tell you?
Accumulation.
Oh, is that what it is?
I'm a DCA. I'm a DCA
that shit until you hit $1,000.
You know what that typically tells me?
I won't say always, but that typically tells me that somebody's dumping on my head and
suppressing price.
But you're an ETH, Maxie.
The fucking ETH Foundation doesn't even hold the most ETH anymore because they've been
dumping on your head.
I don't know, man.
Look, I'd rather them be out of ETH.
If they're out of ETH, it's better for me.
I've never agreed with that take. I get the sentiment and, oh, he's be out of ETH. If they're out of ETH, it's better for me. I've never agreed with that take.
Like, I get the sentiment and, oh, he's selling at all-time highs.
Like, they got to pay motherfuckers.
Well, I never thought it was an issue that the Fondish was selling.
I mean, but it keeps going up, right?
And then if you guys don't know, guys, XRP is going to flip Ethereum.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I'm just kidding.
It is because there's a conspiracy theory
that all the ETH money is going into
BTC and everything else because people
want to see ETH fail.
I don't know who came up with this, but it's hilarious.
I'm just here to ruffle feathers, guys.
Don't take me seriously.
No, same.
Go ahead and speak
me about that suey oh no i'm serious so it looks good man you're you're right where you want to be
as far as trend you're playing right on the trend you haven't really tapped trend yet you can down
like 318 i mean this is the range where you should hold if you break this range you break this trend
you're going to come back down and retest uh two dollars this this is a heads up you go below like 310 you'll likely go to two dollars
so that's gonna be a nice little chop but it'll give you a good place to kind of enter you have
a pretty good floor too though really good floor too um yeah that's that's the way i would take it
i heard that uh link was gonna flip Solana and XRP.
Just something I heard.
Man, I also heard a thousand other Bitcoins that were going to surpass Bitcoin.
Surpass Bitcoin?
Remember Bitcoin Cash?
There was only one Bitcoin.
Remember Bitcoin Cash?
Litecoin?
Yeah, I remember that shit.
The thing, though, Will, when you said Bitcoin going to maybe $ to maybe 110 like isn't that the top now
like like no so if you like flatten the high here right on the body candles your body candles can
bring you all the way down to like i mean technically technically you can go down to
like 100 98 to 100 for sure that's. That's the last resort right there.
And then we're going up.
You're going to SFP.
You're going to swing, fail pattern, and then you're going to roll.
But as long as you stay up here, no, no.
If you go below 100K, you ain't going up.
You're likely going to go down.
That's what I meant because when you said 110, I was like, oh, shit.
That's what I meant because, you know, when you said 110, I was like, oh, shit, are we like, that's not bullish.
Well, 110, 111 is kind of like. That's a good area to hold.
You get what I mean?
To hold.
Yeah, to hold.
But if we go lower than that, guys, like, come on.
No, no, because you can.
Come on.
DCA.
Come on.
You can.
There's an FBG right there that you're kind of filling right and we're we're like right at that fill point right now like 112 111 is that fill
point for that beach so if you start breaking that fbg you could realistically come all the way down
to 100k right and that's that's what you would look for you'd'd say, okay, we break the FEG, we go to like 100K. We break 100K, we've liked the SFP, which is like, we call it swing fail pattern, right?
So you broke out, you rejected above support, you came back down, you failed support, and now you're going lower.
And an SFP is not something that you want to second guess.
You just want to take the play, understand that it's probably going and you can take the short side underneath the underneath the 100k play
so like if you if you break below 100 i'm not saying dip into 100k and go a little bit below
it i'm saying like if you break below 100k and body candle close below 100k you're likely going
to swing fail and then you'll you'll roll at least down a trend,
and trend will bring you down to 90, right?
And if they want to go deeper than that, they'll go a lot deeper, right?
Likely what they'll do is they'll take it from 90, swing it back up,
retest 100, and then roll.
So you'll get an exit position before that happens, but that's what I would think.
I think you go below 100, you retest 90, you bounce back up to 100,
and you roll down deeper.
You stay above 100.
Ideally, where we are now is perfect, right?
This is the most ideal range you want to be in.
Ideally, we hold this range right now where we're at.
You don't go deeper than where we are, and we shove up,
and we get some kind of really hard push up to mid to 100K Bitcoin, right?
So mid to high 100k bitcoin so 150 to
174 that the fib says 174 that's where i come up with that number from just so everybody knows
but if you can hit around that 150 range you should start being kind of like okay i need to
start taking money off the table and run into cash and start cashing out pretty heavily at that point
is what i would be doing i wouldn't be trying to chase shit at that point.
That's my exit position.
And once we get up there, I'll take it from there.
We'll see kind of where things go.
Like, you know, we could even shoot past 174 a little bit if they want to.
You just got to kind of pay attention to the topping patterns.
We have been in a bear div for quite some time, which understandable, right?
We can blow off top and still be in a bear div.
It just being able to recognize like where you are and what, what's the likeness of where
we're going to go.
And I think if we get cuts, we have a good chance of seeing a move.
And I think if we don't get cuts, you know, likely it's already priced in.
That's, that's where a lot of people are missing the boat here.
A lot of people think that the pullback right now is going to get worse if we don't get cuts,
then why are we getting a pullback before the FOMC? Whenever the market is reacting before a
major event, because this FOMC is going to be a major event, it's going to be where a lot of
people are going to really pay attention. Whenever the market is pulling back before a major event, because this FOMC is going to be a major event, it's going to be where a lot of people are going to really pay attention. Whenever the market is pulling back before a major event,
you should expect the opposite. Whenever a market is breaking out before a major event,
you should expect the opposite during the major event, right? So it's always,
when people say sell the news, that's what sell the news really means. It doesn't mean like,
you know, Jake Tapper over here on Twitter is saying that they don't like bitcoin or something
like that that that shit doesn't matter what matter and i just said random person but
what matters is like is there going to be an economic event that is big and what are you
doing going into that economic event right now we're pulling back into the economic event so
even if the event is bad, the way I
would think about it is in my head is I would think, okay, the event is bad, but the market
has already pulled back. So it's likely already priced in the bad scenario. The market, somebody
already knew they've already started selling. And so where would you go when they've already
started selling? Well, likely you're going to rebound because everybody's going to think it's
going to lower. They're going to sell into your buying and then eventually it's going to rebound
and go back up that's always the problem with these markets they love to manipulate people in
that way going into major events and just being like okay we're going to pull the market back and
they're going to think that we're going deeper once they announce the bad news and then we're
going to reverse it and same thing when they break out, it works in both directions.
When you go into a major event and they break out,
they're gonna be like,
oh, they're gonna think we're going higher
and then we're gonna sell into them.
That's kind of the mindset a lot of people really have
to kind of put themselves into consistently
with these markets.
It's like, all right, what's coming up
and what's the market doing?
Okay, the market's likely pricing in bad news,
and then the market will rebound after the bad news is announced.
Red Kev, what's going on? Hey, thanks for calling on me. I just wanted to set the record
straight real quick. Someone said there was only one Bitcoin, and there's actually another
one. It's called Harry Potter, Obama, Sonic 10, Inu, ticker Bitcoin. So just wanted to come up
here, make sure everyone was aware there's actually another one. Don't miss Bitcoin twice.
What chain is it on?
Oh, thank you for asking.
Don't miss Bitcoin twice.
It's on Ethereum. It's on Base. It's on Solana. It's on Bar's on ethereum it's on base it's on solana it's on barrett chain
all the chains i made my point then clear the very first time
it's on all the chains all the good ones it's on all the chains i love that harry
potter obama sonic you guys make epic parties actually i was literally gonna say that that's
why i didn't give a fuck i was like i definitely had a couple of free you know cocktails at those parties shout out to those events over
there and merch yeah those amazing coin cults are absolutely uh like fucking frat parties times 50
not talking about like not even nfts nft like, maybe the closest to that is, like, obviously D-Gods.
Because those motherfuckers drink out of shoes.
But, dude, fucking every meme, anything, fucking bread, whatever.
It's, like, some wild, eugenic shit.
It's always a lot of fun, too.
Fortunately, though, there'd be feds in those parties.
So you got to act.
You got to be on your toes over there.
I kind of drink.
I drink one drink, and I'm, you know, yeah, I can't.
We don't like that.
I know, brother, but that's what happens.
It attracts them.
I don't know why.
You just got to stay weary.
That's all it is.
You just got to stay weary.
No, but, Will, that was a banger.
That was a banger sentiment.
Remember everyone, like, saying August is the worst?
If this is the worst of August, I'm not mad about it.
I'm not angry.
What do you think about
tomorrow with Powell and
Jackson's whole pulse?
I can't read Powell. I can't
read him. I don't know if he just
is doing this because he's pissed,
because he doesn't like Trump.
What kind of cologne do you guys think that motherfucker wears?
I mean, he's wearing some, like...
Forever 21 shit.
Yeah, yeah, he's definitely wearing some of that shit.
Forever 21 black is what I wore when I was fucking 13.
Oh, no.
These politicians are going to Neiman.
That motherfucker's probably wearing Creed.
He looks tired as fuck.
He's over all of us.
No, he probably wears that cologne that, you know, when you're at the grocery store and you smell that grandpa and it burns your nose when you're passing by.
He wears curves.
He wears curves.
You guys forget this guy makes decisions that affects, like, literally the whole world.
If y'all think he's shopping at Walmart for fucking cologne, I don't think so.
I'm going to find the cologne for him and they're probably making him stink and telling him, oh, this is what the ladies like.
I've missed you, Leslie.
This guy spent $2 billion over budget on buildings.
He's a spender.
He ain't definitely shopping at Walmart.
And whoever's buying his cologne, he's making sure they got the credit definitely shopping at walmart and whoever's buying his
cologne he's making sure they got the credit card the amax the black one not like the one that
people with money they have personal managers that manages them their time and everything so
they don't have to worry about that minute stuff so he definitely has somebody buying him stinky ass cologne they got him axe
body spray i found this out the other day none of you guys have money and never had an assistant
your assistant's always gonna make sure you look fly as fuck smell good as hell because they want
to keep their job assistant hey who's got an assistant That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Wait, you don't think Jerome has an executive admin,
a chief of staff, and a personal assistant?
Three.
Three just for him.
They're not getting him coffee, though.
Yo, for sure they're getting him coffee.
I'm looking for a job.
Yo, Profits was looking for an assistant talking about it.
You want me to bring you coffee, Profits?
I got you. We're like in the same city.
I never even
thought about an assistant. That's actually a good idea.
Get yourself
an assistant and a personal manager.
Yeah.
I'd as well grab a chef while you're at it.
No, I just need
a personal masseuse.
That's what I need.
For real, for real.
I had Dom's the other day.
It was so bad.
I just need somebody.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to find somebody.
That's what's fine.
We can bring it back to Jerome.
Listen, I think...
Let me give a two cents
on Jerome's. I think Jeromeome i think the market is efficient
like like we were saying i think that whatever he's gonna say tomorrow we already priced that
in you know what i mean like whatever worst case scenario we priced in a lot of it so tomorrow i
think we're gonna get like a neutral reaction the market has been kind of like sideways the whole
week anyways a couple of pops here and there like The stock market has been slow too. So I think that this week is already priced in and there's two ways that's going to happen the next
September. Wall Street is saying that they're already 89% chance that it's going to be a cut,
but he can be a douchebag, right? And instead of doing a 0.25 cut, he can skip that cut altogether
and do a 0.5 maybe in the next meeting, right? If he wants to do that
and be a real ass. But I think that whatever we think is going to happen, usually we get the
opposite. So like if we're getting a cut and everybody think we're going to the moon right
after the cut, that definitely is not happening. So I think that we might even see like, you know,
a little red over September and then pick back up in like October, November based on like what's
really happening now. But there is some liquidity being pumped in i actually posted in the comments today that was four billion dollars
injected today like usa buying their own money so it's kind of like a stealth way of you know
quantitative easing which is like kind of like printing money too so like we're getting some
we're getting something here well the the thing that people aren't really looking at either because
everybody keeps saying oh no no liquidity no liquid no liquidity i mean look at total total's already like pretty much
broken out we're like sitting right at high rejecting a little bit but like you've got a
full trend on total totals there's a lot of liquidity coming in here like it's it's got a
full-on trend line going for for total so to me, it's like there's actually really good liquidity.
I mean, Total and Total 2 both look really good.
Even Total 3.
Total 3 honestly looks better than both the other Totals.
Total 2 and Total 1 don't look as good as Total 3.
Just so people know, Total 3 is minus ETH minus Bitcoin.
That means that altcoins, even though a lot of people think that nobody's buying,
there's a lot of buying going on in altcoins right now.
The reason altcoins,
I'm just gonna come out and say it, right?
Cause I think not enough people understand how this works.
The reason your altcoins not at all time high
because they pretty much dumped, you know,
a thousand to 2,000% of the supply
onto the market through the bear market.
So you're not at all time high
because they diluted the shit out of the token. We are basically at 2021 highs as far as total
three goes. That's why your altcoin is not at all time high. It's not at all time high because
you're in a heavily diluted altcoin. You can't hold these things for multiple years if they
can mint them. You got to absolutely get the hell out before bear markets.
Because a lot of these tokens that go through bear markets, they're going to dilute heavily.
I think it was, I want to say JASMII.
I think JASMII diluted their token supply by almost 100X and a few other ones, which is substantial losses if you just held those tokens.
But I can tell you liquidity-wise, if we're just talking liquidity,
we're right where we were in 2021 peak right now.
Will, do you find it ironic that we're at those same peaks,
but our sentiments are lower even though the market is higher and the government laws are actually in favor of us versus during that time.
Well, the problem is, is like every market has to go higher or the euphoria doesn't set it.
And so if we're not higher this market, nobody's going to take that and acknowledge it as a W.
They're going to just look at it like, oh, we're basically where we were in 2020.
This is where we reject.
This is where we fall over.
Like, that's what I try to explain this to people so much, but it's so hard to get people to understand.
The trap is set when nobody wants to sell.
They're not going to dump the market on you when you don't
give a shit and you're not really putting money into the market. Most people are not serious about
investing right now. And so nobody's really putting money in right now. And so since nobody's really
putting money in right now, why would they set a trap right now? It just doesn't make any sense.
Why would they set up the bear market when there's no scenario
where people are feeling good about the market
and they want to stay in a play?
Everybody on CT right now is basically going in
and trying to snipe coins and get in and get out
for two or three X.
It's actually pathetic.
And then they're sitting there calling themselves traders.
It's like, you're not a trader, bro.
You're just, you're an extractor.
That's all you do.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're just tuning in, when you hear this sound,
this lets you know there's money in the room.
Anybody that doesn't agree, you're banned from Sugar Town.
We got Camel up here.
Damn, this guy never pulls up, man.
I feel so fucking,
I feel so lucky right now, dude.
Welcome to this.
Hi, Camel.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
What is up?
What is up?
I have no idea what's going on here. I just caught a fish and I tweeted it.
And I just wanted to let everybody know I'm really excited.
So make sure to check out my recent post.
It's of the fish I caught.
It's really exciting.
Big day for me.
That's all I've got.
Make sure you retweet the room.
Profits is the best.
Make sure you use BZ and Toshibet, the preferred sponsor of this space.
And make sure you retweet my fish. I bet the preferred sponsor of this space is and make
sure you retweet my fish i'm like really proud of it i've been fishing for like four hours and i
finally got one like right when the sun was coming down so oh that's a dub that feels good as a
floridian that feels great uh i know how that feels man i got you look i did camo i went lobster
fishing yesterday and i'm the worst swimmer ever so I was just like staying afloat and being an extra body for the license.
So I feel that because when they kept bringing the lobsters up, I was like, can I take a picture and post it as mine?
And they're like, Liz, you'll get your six at the end.
Those are definitely I saw you catch all six of those.
So, guys, Liz is the best lobster fishing person in crypto.
Somebody needs to sign her ASAP.
Look, all I'm going to say is my takes of the day when I'm going through Twitter is looking for a ban from Sugar Town.
Bro, he's the fucking goat.
Kanye got it yesterday.
He's the fucking goat, dude.
He's so...
I love the way Camel thinks, dude.
It's great.
So good.
That's the trick is I don't think.
I just, like, post. It's that simple. Don't think. Just's the trick, is I don't think. I just, like, post.
It's that simple. Don't think, just post.
I will end it on one note. I do have to run.
I'm really fucking hungry.
Mika is not banned from Sugartown.
She has never been banned from Sugartown.
I just want to make that very clear.
Mika, certified, allowed in Sugartown.
She's got the passport, everything like that.
But we're not here to talk about Mika.
We're here to talk about the fish I caught,
which I'm really excited about.
Fucking legend.
Fucking legend, Camel. Thank you.
Let's look at this fish. We're actually from
Florida. Let's judge this fish before we're like
legend. I didn't want to, I'm not gonna lie.
It's a little baby boy, but I didn't
want to like shit on him. He's excited.
We can't all get big fish, you know?
I have a sick photo of me holding
a fish for my mom. I should find it. Real quick, real quick. 10 minutes, I'll be live on the BZ
account pinned up to the top. Make sure you pull up to that. I'm giving away a lot of claw plays
tonight. Motherfuckers have been ripping and swapping. I'm sorry if you're if you're just literally
losing if you're losing on meme coins at all I there's literally no reason why you shouldn't
be playing the fucking claw dude there's no fucking reason like if you just like giving
your money away to just dumbass devs then okay then just ignore what I'm saying but put your
fucking $30 $ dollars fifty dollars to
some use if you're gonna just degen every single day um just just fucking saying anyway levi did
you um do you have any of the uh od labs nfts or you were just trolling bro no i have two straight
from mint uh max my favorite uh sorry uh i can't say it's second favorite woman in crypto uh
no you can it's okay i'm not um um she fucking held a gun to my head made me mint too uh i i was
very happy for it for a long time and then i almost put out a tweet today and i was like i was
like what the fuck is od labs doing like are they just not making noise anymore do they rug or whatever and i come on the space and i'm like holy shit
my bags may not be down like i i i might have round trip that shit but um if the utility coming
is decent like i'm down for it everyone should go sweep uh od labs uh fucking bring that floor up
uh fucking work for my bags. Please and thank you.
Hey.
It's on OpenT.
Hey.
Let's wrap the 10 minutes up.
I wonder if Chicago wants to come up.
He's probably eating his fucking Chipotle that he got funded for today
since he couldn't afford after losing 600 soul.
I'm comfy and easy.
I know there's a lot of hate right now on the timeline i just
i couldn't imagine this just i don't know i don't know maybe i'm fucking on the damn oxygen that he
was on i don't know wait is he going back up or must be we didn't even have to volunteer that
information no it's fine it's over here when it launched it was fun i cooked i made money i'm i'm
i'm out on my initials. I'm just holding
the... Chicago, I want to know, are we
completely dead? Will?
I mean, even if I wasn't, even
if I was down-down, like, I would
still be like, oh, like, I don't know,
bro. It feels like if it would have been, it would
have went down even worse if it was
over with. Oh, I was down.
Chicago is down-down because I
offered to Uber Eats him some food today.
I just shouldn't have gone to the fucking gym.
That's what should not have happened last night.
Bro, you over traded that anyway.
I told you, dude.
LVAC was not the move last night, bro.
You know what? I'm going to blame it on profits and wills.
They closed down the space and when they closed it
down, it freaking shot right
down.
It went freaking to the floor.
I'm not in any cabals. I can't move anything.
I seen it at 400 mil.
It was fake.
I got in at 800, but I seen it at 400.
I was trying to start clipping,
but it was so hard to get in.
The slipping was crazy.
It was hard, yeah.
I had a hard time getting in there.
I was trying to clip in heavy, too,
and it just kept on freaking slipping.
That's what he said.
Yo, Liz.
And Levi, the utility for OD Labs
is you bought a bunch of supercars for Canadians.
Hey, fucking man.
Hey, at least...
Hey, I might not be contributing to my success.
At least I'm contributing to someone else's success.
At least someone's...
Chicago, we're talking about Yeezy.
We're talking about Yeezy, Chicago.
How are you feeling 24 hours later?
I'm down like 20 points.
I don't give a fuck.
That's what I'm saying. Same vibes.
I didn't sell it.
I'm not fucking panicking.
This was the whole fucking thing.
I deserved to fucking lose a couple bucks,
but I'm not convinced in the least that this is it. This was the whole fucking thing. I deserve to fucking lose a couple bucks, but I'm not convinced in the least that like,
this is a,
like this is the let it sell off and then fucking do something.
Blah,
blah,
blah.
Like,
I don't think anybody's like this dumb to like pull one of those last night.
Let it like idly bleed out and move on.
Just doesn't feel right.
I did cut my position luckily a lot higher but i was thinking about maybe buying back in
and trying to i'm probably gonna buy more in the next like little bit no will remember what you
said we don't go back into those and you made me feel like shit about the one that you got back
into that i told you to get back into difference You got to give it another difference when Will, because the thing is 97% of the time he doesn't use his emotional, I'll talk to him about something
and he's just like, no Shanice, no emotions involved. And then the other 3% is right now
what you're dealing with Liz. He was a little confused himself because he was going back in.
He was going back in, even though he told you not to go back in.
even though he told you not to go back in.
It's not that often. Okay. It feels good. I get it.
It feels good. I get it.
It's not that often it happens, right?
Sometimes I know I shouldn't go on a second date,
but I still go on a second date,
and then I'm like, this is why I said I wouldn't do this.
And I figured out...
Okay, no, that's retarded.
It's the first date that you have to be confused about.
Oh, no, he's spending $2,500,
and then he's wondering why it's fucking...
He's wondering why he's confused.
$2,500 on the first date is fucking insane, William.
That was a couple times.
The private table with six waiters.
And profits teach him something.
We were talking about this last night.
We're going to talk about this.
We're definitely going to talk about this.
It's insane.
We don't got to talk about it anymore.
We'll watch.
Oh, look, I see Mel in their days. I see Mel in their requests.
I see Mel in their requests.
I see how he acts.
I'm just kidding.
I like messing with Will.
It's easy.
Hold on, who?
Who?
I'm cute even.
I picked up on that one.
You like that?
Who?
That was good, brother.
That was good.
Will do not tell prophets anything. She remembers every
fucking thing. And she smokes, which I don't get.
She remembers every fucking thing.
No, Liz, look.
She was up here yesterday and then
Will changed his voice
and then I
went to fuck him fly on the show.
Will cut the radio voice real quick.
Well, she was up here and he was all smiles.
No, look.
They're up here trying to play Kinect 5 up here.
Kinect 5 up here.
It'll be Kinect 4.
God damn it, Will.
No, they were trying to do Connect 5.
They were trying to add one in.
But yeah, it was pretty interesting
watching people
trying to create stories.
Evening Drive Rush on 105.9.
Oh, so you saw AI in real life.
This is so fucking good.
This is Vegas.
All right, I'm good. This is Vegas. All right.
I've seen a lot.
I've seen a lot in Vegas.
A lot of booty cheeks,
but that's about it.
There's so much more depth to Vegas.
Okay, but when we're looking,
we're looking at the booty cheeks.
So, okay, explain the death, please.
Nah, look, Chicago knows.
He knows about Vegas.
This isn't the place to just be sleeping on random chicks.
Trust me.
We're looking.
We're looking.
Well, damn, we didn't even say sleep.
We're looking at us.
I mean, yeah, yeah, we can look at us.
That's fine.
That's fine.
On that note, real quick, in about two minutes i'm going
to be live on the bz account we're going to have a banger interview with a really cool collector
definitely want to pull up and we are wow 8 32 p.m what a great fucking spaces this was guys
listen cleanse your timeline cleanse your fucking timeline follow
people that are doing cool shit get the fuck out of your mind and just and just go crazy go crazy
and damn will left us that quick will was ready to get the fuck out of here um i'm just kidding
i think you're up but yeah anyway just i i seeing too much. Like if you got to cleanse your chest, if whatever you got to do, bro, get just focus, lock the fuck in,
bro. Lock it. You got to lock in. This is the time to lock in. This is not the time to fuck
around. It's not the time to dick around. None of that. Lock in. Anyway, jump into the community.
Pinned up top. Also pull up to the spaces in five minutes. Will, I'll let you have some.
Jesus Christ never works when he's up here, bro.
He's always breaking anything. Any last words, William?
Smooth talker.
Nah, I was just
going to say, avoid random girls online.
Alright? They make you drop
25k on a Yeezy token live on a space.
I know.
Avoid the bitches online. They'll send you season desist for calling them what they are
bro is that real
girls avoid boys
where have you been
it's really not on mika's timeline
i just caught up with everything
damn you're rugging you're rugging really bad Mika's timeline. I just caught up with everything. It's real.
Damn, you're rugging really bad.
You're cutting me off.
Yeah, rugging really bad.
Anyway, I gotta go to this other space.
I love you guys. See you in a few.
Holla back.
